http://australiasevereweather.com/ at : "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Monthly wx station report Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 01:18:48 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, May readings at my wx station here at Morphett Vale, Adelaide, SA are now online for anyone interested. Goto the link below then click on May. http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer/weatherhistory.htm Regs, Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Seven Hills data Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:22:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
For any interested, my observations for May 2003 are at
and

You can see several forecast models all in one place at
 
 
Keith Barnett
Weather fanatic and classical musician
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at : "Paul Yole" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Murtoa Happenings Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 07:40:44 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey All, Well, after last nights viewing of lightning out towards St. Arnaud, tonight it's definitely my turn. As I type, I have a storm almost right on top of me. Flash rates are only about 30 seconds, but the thunder is putting the storm about 5kms away at me. Time to go and see if I can get some video of this. PaulY Paul Yole PH: (040) 921-9185 !!!NEW CELL NUMBER!!! email: pyole78 at yahoo.com.au AIM: pkyole02 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Les Crossan" To: Subject: aus-wx: Euro Weather happenings Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 15:54:59 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2003 15:54:41.0784 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D261780:01C32856] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com for all you euro weather watchers out there! Currently there is a slow moving CF across the UK with line convection and thunderstorm events ahead of the front due to the unstable airmass. Europe is doing no better (worse) with negative Li's and CAPES in thousands. A supercell evident in Germany at the satellite images. BBC radar is showing a large complex in Northern France. Les Les Crossan, Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 55N 01-30W, Home of the Wallsend Stormcam - http://www.uksevereweather.org.uk --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29/05/2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: May 2003: Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 15:41:35 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Greetin's All: Heres the weather in Mena, Arkansas for May, 2003:
 
Avg. High:78.5F(25.8C)
Avg. Low:59.4F(15.2C)
       High:93F(33.8C) May 30
       Low:47F(8.3C) May 12
Rain for Month:4.55"(115.5mm)
                     (-1.85"/-46.9mm)
Rain for Year:13.55"(344.1mm)
                   (-9.55"/-242.5mm)
We did have 12 raindays in month, but we still have a large deficit to try to catch up to. We've had over 19"(482+mm) less rain this year, compared to the same time in 2002.
Heres wishing ALL a Happy, Safe, Blessed & Prosperous month of June!
Yours--Take Care~~~David Powell
X-Originating-IP: [144.139.223.230] X-Originating-Email: [mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] at : "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Seven Hills data Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 22:36:07 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2003 12:36:07.0852 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A4E16C0:01C32903] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well done Keith-very detailed! Gavin Canberra > at : "Keith Barnett" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: "Weather list" >Subject: aus-wx: Seven Hills data >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:22:02 +1000 > >For any interested, my observations for May 2003 are at > >http://wthrman.com/052003.htm > >and > >http://wthrman.com/mths.html > >You can see several forecast models all in one place at > >http://wthrman.com/models.htm > >Keith Barnett >Weather fanatic and classical musician >Website: http://www.wthrman.com >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This message ,and any attachments, has been scanned by the latest version >of Norton AntiVirus and is certified to be virus free. _________________________________________________________________ ninemsn Extra Storage is now available. Get five times more storage - 10MB in your Hotmail account. Go to http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/home&pgmarket=en-au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:06:09 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at ABC newsonline: "Monday, June 2, 2003. 15:10 AEDT Warning issued as storm bears down on Taiwan Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau has issued a land and sea warning as tropical storm Nangka heads for the island's southern coast." Does this qualify as a monsoon? Ken Ring www.predictweather.com > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Ken Ring" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an earlier-than-usual > > monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this period. The > > season usually goes at New moon to full moon, encompassing a northern > > declination and a perigee. Thoughts, anyone? > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 09:25:23 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ken, The word "Monsoon" literally means "season" so a storm such as STS Nangka has nothing to do with a monsoon. The two monsoons which affect Hong Kong every year are the "Winter Monsoon" and the "Summer Monsoon". The winter monsoon is a wind, often higher than gale-force, which comes at the NE quarter and brings us clear blue skies, very dry conditions, and endless sunny weather. It comes in what are referred to as "monsoon surges". As each surge arrives, the Observatory may decide to hoist the Strong Monsoon Signal to warn people of gale-force or higher winds. The Summer monsoon blows generally at the South to SW direction and brings very moist air and very high humidity. Its winds also can exceed gale-force at times, necessitating the hoisting of the Strong Monsoon Signal. The summer monsoon always means that the skies will be cloudy all day and it will often be raining. In contrast to the monsoons, this area has Tropical Cyclones, which are separate distinct circular storms. Our Observatory here hoists Typhoon Signals when one of these is likely to affect Hong Kong. In Taiwan, which is only about 800 km at here, the same two monsoons would apply, although I don't think the Summer monsoon would be as dry there as it is here, because the East China Sea is to the NE of Taiwan. The conditions affecting Taiwan today have no connection at all with any monsoon; they are caused by the passage through the Bashi Channel of Severe Tropical Storm Nangka. After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island will however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring extra rain to the southern half of the island. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : "Ken Ring" To: Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:06:09 +1200 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > at ABC newsonline: > "Monday, June 2, 2003. 15:10 AEDT > Warning issued as storm bears down on Taiwan > Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau has issued a land and sea warning as > tropical storm Nangka heads for the island's southern coast." > Does this qualify as a monsoon? > Ken Ring > www.predictweather.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > at : "Ken Ring" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an > earlier-than-usual > > > monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this > period. > The > > > season usually goes at New moon to full moon, encompassing a > northern > > > declination and a perigee. Thoughts, anyone? > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 12:27:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Unless of course the storm is on the monsoon trough...? ----- Original Message ----- at : "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:25 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > Ken, > The word "Monsoon" literally means "season" so a storm such as STS > Nangka has nothing to do with a monsoon. > The two monsoons which affect Hong Kong every year are the "Winter > Monsoon" and the "Summer Monsoon". The winter monsoon is a wind, often > higher than gale-force, which comes at the NE quarter and brings us > clear blue skies, very dry conditions, and endless sunny weather. It > comes in what are referred to as "monsoon surges". As each surge > arrives, the Observatory may decide to hoist the Strong Monsoon Signal > to warn people of gale-force or higher winds. The Summer monsoon blows > generally at the South to SW direction and brings very moist air and > very high humidity. Its winds also can exceed gale-force at times, > necessitating the hoisting of the Strong Monsoon Signal. The summer > monsoon always means that the skies will be cloudy all day and it will > often be raining. > In contrast to the monsoons, this area has Tropical Cyclones, which are > separate distinct circular storms. Our Observatory here hoists Typhoon > Signals when one of these is likely to affect Hong Kong. > In Taiwan, which is only about 800 km at here, the same two monsoons > would apply, although I don't think the Summer monsoon would be as dry > there as it is here, because the East China Sea is to the NE of Taiwan. > The conditions affecting Taiwan today have no connection at all with any > monsoon; they are caused by the passage through the Bashi Channel of > Severe Tropical Storm Nangka. > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island will > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > at : "Ken Ring" > To: > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:06:09 +1200 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > at ABC newsonline: > > "Monday, June 2, 2003. 15:10 AEDT > > Warning issued as storm bears down on Taiwan > > Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau has issued a land and sea warning as > > tropical storm Nangka heads for the island's southern coast." > > Does this qualify as a monsoon? > > Ken Ring > > www.predictweather.com > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > at : "Ken Ring" > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > > > > It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an > > earlier-than-usual > > > > monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this > > period. > > The > > > > season usually goes at New moon to full moon, encompassing a > > northern > > > > declination and a perigee. Thoughts, anyone? > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > of > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:57:12 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island will > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > extra rain to the southern half of the island. Thanks for that Phil..the dictionary describes monsoon as a wind system that reverses direction seasonally. In general usage I'd say it refers to the inclement weather that results. So-o-o getting back to my earlier post of April 16, is the area getting early monsoon activity(as the country defines it) or not? Ken www.predictweather.com ----- Original Message ----- at : "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:25 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > Ken, > The word "Monsoon" literally means "season" so a storm such as STS > Nangka has nothing to do with a monsoon. > The two monsoons which affect Hong Kong every year are the "Winter > Monsoon" and the "Summer Monsoon". The winter monsoon is a wind, often > higher than gale-force, which comes at the NE quarter and brings us > clear blue skies, very dry conditions, and endless sunny weather. It > comes in what are referred to as "monsoon surges". As each surge > arrives, the Observatory may decide to hoist the Strong Monsoon Signal > to warn people of gale-force or higher winds. The Summer monsoon blows > generally at the South to SW direction and brings very moist air and > very high humidity. Its winds also can exceed gale-force at times, > necessitating the hoisting of the Strong Monsoon Signal. The summer > monsoon always means that the skies will be cloudy all day and it will > often be raining. > In contrast to the monsoons, this area has Tropical Cyclones, which are > separate distinct circular storms. Our Observatory here hoists Typhoon > Signals when one of these is likely to affect Hong Kong. > In Taiwan, which is only about 800 km at here, the same two monsoons > would apply, although I don't think the Summer monsoon would be as dry > there as it is here, because the East China Sea is to the NE of Taiwan. > The conditions affecting Taiwan today have no connection at all with any > monsoon; they are caused by the passage through the Bashi Channel of > Severe Tropical Storm Nangka. > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island will > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > at : "Ken Ring" > To: > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:06:09 +1200 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > at ABC newsonline: > > "Monday, June 2, 2003. 15:10 AEDT > > Warning issued as storm bears down on Taiwan > > Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau has issued a land and sea warning as > > tropical storm Nangka heads for the island's southern coast." > > Does this qualify as a monsoon? > > Ken Ring > > www.predictweather.com > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > at : "Ken Ring" > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > > > > It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an > > earlier-than-usual > > > > monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this > > period. > > The > > > > season usually goes at New moon to full moon, encompassing a > > northern > > > > declination and a perigee. Thoughts, anyone? > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > of > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ XAntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses via the Connexus Internet Service at : "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Early monsoons? Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:20:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The current Asia wind stream analysis on the BoM site, shows a SE wind flow over SE Asia. So one may assume that this is the summer monsoon in that part of the world. John. >snip -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Ken Ring Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2003 12:57 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island will > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > extra rain to the southern half of the island. Thanks for that Phil..the dictionary describes monsoon as a wind system that reverses direction seasonally. In general usage I'd say it refers to the inclement weather that results. So-o-o getting back to my earlier post of April 16, is the area getting early monsoon activity(as the country defines it) or not? Ken www.predictweather.com ----- Original Message ----- at : "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:25 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > Ken, > The word "Monsoon" literally means "season" so a storm such as STS > Nangka has nothing to do with a monsoon. > The two monsoons which affect Hong Kong every year are the "Winter > Monsoon" and the "Summer Monsoon". The winter monsoon is a wind, often > higher than gale-force, which comes at the NE quarter and brings us > clear blue skies, very dry conditions, and endless sunny weather. It > comes in what are referred to as "monsoon surges". As each surge > arrives, the Observatory may decide to hoist the Strong Monsoon Signal > to warn people of gale-force or higher winds. The Summer monsoon blows > generally at the South to SW direction and brings very moist air and > very high humidity. Its winds also can exceed gale-force at times, > necessitating the hoisting of the Strong Monsoon Signal. The summer > monsoon always means that the skies will be cloudy all day and it will > often be raining. > In contrast to the monsoons, this area has Tropical Cyclones, which are > separate distinct circular storms. Our Observatory here hoists Typhoon > Signals when one of these is likely to affect Hong Kong. > In Taiwan, which is only about 800 km at here, the same two monsoons > would apply, although I don't think the Summer monsoon would be as dry > there as it is here, because the East China Sea is to the NE of Taiwan. > The conditions affecting Taiwan today have no connection at all with any > monsoon; they are caused by the passage through the Bashi Channel of > Severe Tropical Storm Nangka. > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island will > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > at : "Ken Ring" > To: > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:06:09 +1200 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > at ABC newsonline: > > "Monday, June 2, 2003. 15:10 AEDT > > Warning issued as storm bears down on Taiwan > > Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau has issued a land and sea warning as > > tropical storm Nangka heads for the island's southern coast." > > Does this qualify as a monsoon? > > Ken Ring > > www.predictweather.com > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > at : "Ken Ring" > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > > > > It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an > > earlier-than-usual > > > > monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this > > period. > > The > > > > season usually goes at New moon to full moon, encompassing a > > northern > > > > declination and a perigee. Thoughts, anyone? > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > of > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 10/03/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 10/03/2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 14:52:57 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Early monsoons? X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, the Summer monsoon here blows at anywhere in the southern quarter at about SE to about SW. A system such as NANGKA passing through will usually cause a fairly strong SW blow at behind it for a day or so. When the winds are persistently SE, they are also referred to as the "Trade Winds". It is actually difficult to tell what direction the overall wind comes at where I live, because I am in a deep and narrow valley running NE to SW between two parallel ranges of mountains. This tends to cause the winds measured here to be always either NE or SW winds. So an Easterly or a Northerly both become NEerly and a Southerly of any description becomes a SWerly as it passes here. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : "John Woodbridge" To: Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:20:44 +1000 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > The current Asia wind stream analysis on the BoM site, shows a SE > wind flow over SE Asia. So one may assume that this is the summer > monsoon in that part of the world. > > John. > >snip > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Ken Ring > Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2003 12:57 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island > will > > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > Thanks for that Phil..the dictionary describes monsoon as a wind system > that > reverses direction seasonally. In general usage I'd say it refers to > the > inclement weather that results. So-o-o getting back to my earlier post > of > April 16, is the area getting early monsoon activity(as the country > defines > it) or not? > Ken > www.predictweather.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:25 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > Ken, > > The word "Monsoon" literally means "season" so a storm such as STS > > Nangka has nothing to do with a monsoon. > > The two monsoons which affect Hong Kong every year are the "Winter > > Monsoon" and the "Summer Monsoon". The winter monsoon is a wind, > often > > higher than gale-force, which comes at the NE quarter and brings us > > clear blue skies, very dry conditions, and endless sunny weather. It > > comes in what are referred to as "monsoon surges". As each surge > > arrives, the Observatory may decide to hoist the Strong Monsoon > Signal > > to warn people of gale-force or higher winds. The Summer monsoon > blows > > generally at the South to SW direction and brings very moist air > and > > very high humidity. Its winds also can exceed gale-force at times, > > necessitating the hoisting of the Strong Monsoon Signal. The summer > > monsoon always means that the skies will be cloudy all day and it > will > > often be raining. > > In contrast to the monsoons, this area has Tropical Cyclones, which > are > > separate distinct circular storms. Our Observatory here hoists > Typhoon > > Signals when one of these is likely to affect Hong Kong. > > In Taiwan, which is only about 800 km at here, the same two > monsoons > > would apply, although I don't think the Summer monsoon would be as > dry > > there as it is here, because the East China Sea is to the NE of > Taiwan. > > The conditions affecting Taiwan today have no connection at all with > any > > monsoon; they are caused by the passage through the Bashi Channel of > > Severe Tropical Storm Nangka. > > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island > will > > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > at : "Ken Ring" > > To: > > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:06:09 +1200 > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > at ABC newsonline: > > > "Monday, June 2, 2003. 15:10 AEDT > > > Warning issued as storm bears down on Taiwan > > > Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau has issued a land and sea warning > as > > > tropical storm Nangka heads for the island's southern coast." > > > Does this qualify as a monsoon? > > > Ken Ring > > > www.predictweather.com > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > at : "Ken Ring" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > > > > Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an > > > earlier-than-usual > > > > > monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this > > > period. > > > The > > > > > season usually goes at New moon to full moon, encompassing a > > > northern > > > > > declination and a perigee. Thoughts, anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body > > > of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 10/03/2003 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 10/03/2003 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:14:12 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ken, tomorrow is the day on the Chinese Lunar Calendar called "Tuen Ng Jit" in Chinese. This day is figured to be the day in which the season of Winter gives way to the season of Summer. So tomorrow, 4th of June, is the "official" day. It is an official Public Holiday in all countries which follow the Chinese Lunar Calendar which records the date tomorrow as the 5th day of the 5th month of the year. Typically the Southerly winds will begin to occasionally replace the Northerly flow several times during the month and a half prior to 5th/5th. Less commonly we experience late surges of the NE monsoon later than 5th/5th. Generally for about one and a half to two months we have alternating patterns of Northerly or Southerly winds for as short as one day or as long as a week at a time. Most often, the Chinese astrologers get it right and the cloudy wet Summer weather begins on 5th/5th according to the Chinese calendar. This date falls on a variety of very different dates on our Western calendar. Therefore, if using the Western calendar in some years the monsoons change a month earlier or later than in other years. It seems to me that this year is about average, but I tend not to think of the Western calendar when considering weather, so I can't say for sure whether the Summer monsoon is early or late. Feels like its right on schedule to me. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : "Ken Ring" To: Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:57:12 +1200 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island > will > > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > Thanks for that Phil..the dictionary describes monsoon as a wind system > that > reverses direction seasonally. In general usage I'd say it refers to > the > inclement weather that results. So-o-o getting back to my earlier post > of > April 16, is the area getting early monsoon activity(as the country > defines > it) or not? > Ken > www.predictweather.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:25 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > Ken, > > The word "Monsoon" literally means "season" so a storm such as STS > > Nangka has nothing to do with a monsoon. > > The two monsoons which affect Hong Kong every year are the "Winter > > Monsoon" and the "Summer Monsoon". The winter monsoon is a wind, > often > > higher than gale-force, which comes at the NE quarter and brings us > > clear blue skies, very dry conditions, and endless sunny weather. It > > comes in what are referred to as "monsoon surges". As each surge > > arrives, the Observatory may decide to hoist the Strong Monsoon > Signal > > to warn people of gale-force or higher winds. The Summer monsoon > blows > > generally at the South to SW direction and brings very moist air > and > > very high humidity. Its winds also can exceed gale-force at times, > > necessitating the hoisting of the Strong Monsoon Signal. The summer > > monsoon always means that the skies will be cloudy all day and it > will > > often be raining. > > In contrast to the monsoons, this area has Tropical Cyclones, which > are > > separate distinct circular storms. Our Observatory here hoists > Typhoon > > Signals when one of these is likely to affect Hong Kong. > > In Taiwan, which is only about 800 km at here, the same two > monsoons > > would apply, although I don't think the Summer monsoon would be as > dry > > there as it is here, because the East China Sea is to the NE of > Taiwan. > > The conditions affecting Taiwan today have no connection at all with > any > > monsoon; they are caused by the passage through the Bashi Channel of > > Severe Tropical Storm Nangka. > > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island > will > > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > at : "Ken Ring" > > To: > > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:06:09 +1200 > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > at ABC newsonline: > > > "Monday, June 2, 2003. 15:10 AEDT > > > Warning issued as storm bears down on Taiwan > > > Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau has issued a land and sea warning > as > > > tropical storm Nangka heads for the island's southern coast." > > > Does this qualify as a monsoon? > > > Ken Ring > > > www.predictweather.com > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > at : "Ken Ring" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > > > > Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an > > > earlier-than-usual > > > > > monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this > > > period. > > > The > > > > > season usually goes at New moon to full moon, encompassing a > > > northern > > > > > declination and a perigee. Thoughts, anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body > > > of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ XAntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses via the Connexus Internet Service at : "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Early monsoons? Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 17:47:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yo Ken, Sounds like the Chinese lunar calendar is a hell of lot better at defining the seasons than is the Western calendar, at least in that part of the world. Now (at the risk of reopening what seems to be a painful debate for some), that would have to say something for the lunar theory would it not? John. >snip -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2003 5:14 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? Ken, tomorrow is the day on the Chinese Lunar Calendar called "Tuen Ng Jit" in Chinese. This day is figured to be the day in which the season of Winter gives way to the season of Summer. So tomorrow, 4th of June, is the "official" day. It is an official Public Holiday in all countries which follow the Chinese Lunar Calendar which records the date tomorrow as the 5th day of the 5th month of the year. Typically the Southerly winds will begin to occasionally replace the Northerly flow several times during the month and a half prior to 5th/5th. Less commonly we experience late surges of the NE monsoon later than 5th/5th. Generally for about one and a half to two months we have alternating patterns of Northerly or Southerly winds for as short as one day or as long as a week at a time. Most often, the Chinese astrologers get it right and the cloudy wet Summer weather begins on 5th/5th according to the Chinese calendar. This date falls on a variety of very different dates on our Western calendar. Therefore, if using the Western calendar in some years the monsoons change a month earlier or later than in other years. It seems to me that this year is about average, but I tend not to think of the Western calendar when considering weather, so I can't say for sure whether the Summer monsoon is early or late. Feels like its right on schedule to me. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : "Ken Ring" To: Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:57:12 +1200 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island > will > > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > Thanks for that Phil..the dictionary describes monsoon as a wind system > that > reverses direction seasonally. In general usage I'd say it refers to > the > inclement weather that results. So-o-o getting back to my earlier post > of > April 16, is the area getting early monsoon activity(as the country > defines > it) or not? > Ken > www.predictweather.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:25 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > Ken, > > The word "Monsoon" literally means "season" so a storm such as STS > > Nangka has nothing to do with a monsoon. > > The two monsoons which affect Hong Kong every year are the "Winter > > Monsoon" and the "Summer Monsoon". The winter monsoon is a wind, > often > > higher than gale-force, which comes at the NE quarter and brings us > > clear blue skies, very dry conditions, and endless sunny weather. It > > comes in what are referred to as "monsoon surges". As each surge > > arrives, the Observatory may decide to hoist the Strong Monsoon > Signal > > to warn people of gale-force or higher winds. The Summer monsoon > blows > > generally at the South to SW direction and brings very moist air > and > > very high humidity. Its winds also can exceed gale-force at times, > > necessitating the hoisting of the Strong Monsoon Signal. The summer > > monsoon always means that the skies will be cloudy all day and it > will > > often be raining. > > In contrast to the monsoons, this area has Tropical Cyclones, which > are > > separate distinct circular storms. Our Observatory here hoists > Typhoon > > Signals when one of these is likely to affect Hong Kong. > > In Taiwan, which is only about 800 km at here, the same two > monsoons > > would apply, although I don't think the Summer monsoon would be as > dry > > there as it is here, because the East China Sea is to the NE of > Taiwan. > > The conditions affecting Taiwan today have no connection at all with > any > > monsoon; they are caused by the passage through the Bashi Channel of > > Severe Tropical Storm Nangka. > > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island > will > > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > at : "Ken Ring" > > To: > > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:06:09 +1200 > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > at ABC newsonline: > > > "Monday, June 2, 2003. 15:10 AEDT > > > Warning issued as storm bears down on Taiwan > > > Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau has issued a land and sea warning > as > > > tropical storm Nangka heads for the island's southern coast." > > > Does this qualify as a monsoon? > > > Ken Ring > > > www.predictweather.com > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > at : "Ken Ring" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > > > > Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an > > > earlier-than-usual > > > > > monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this > > > period. > > > The > > > > > season usually goes at New moon to full moon, encompassing a > > > northern > > > > > declination and a perigee. 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Goto the link below then click on May. > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer/weatherhistory.htm > > Regs, Paul. > (Stargazer) > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.138.156.87] X-Originating-Email: [mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] at : "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 23:49:12 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2003 13:49:12.0758 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA536560:01C329D6] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all It seems the Monsoon has started early as the ITCZ is now firmly across southern Vietnam and the northern Philippines .The two Tropical Storms in the South China Sea are unusual for their formation location and north east movement so early in the season as was the Typhoon which moved north towards Japan late last month at the Marianas region. Tropical disturbances form in the Monsoon Trough and can become cyclones and induce the South West Monsoon but even weak T D's can do that. THe Monsoon is conected with the trough not the Cyclones . Gavin Canberra > at : "Ken Ring" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? >Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:06:09 +1200 > > at ABC newsonline: >"Monday, June 2, 2003. 15:10 AEDT >Warning issued as storm bears down on Taiwan >Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau has issued a land and sea warning as >tropical storm Nangka heads for the island's southern coast." >Does this qualify as a monsoon? >Ken Ring >www.predictweather.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > at : "Ken Ring" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an earlier-than-usual > > > monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this period. >The > > > season usually goes at New moon to full moon, encompassing a >northern > > > declination and a perigee. 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Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.138.156.87] X-Originating-Email: [mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] at : "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 23:54:09 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2003 13:54:09.0818 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B6327A0:01C329D7] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Phil, I read your comment after I sent mine.My sister in Law told us they had quite a battering at the first T.S. that crossed right over them! .I have not heard more since and understand she can not get to her School because of floods. Yours is a better answer! Gavin Canberra > at : "Phil Smith" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? >Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 09:25:23 +0800 > >Ken, >The word "Monsoon" literally means "season" so a storm such as STS >Nangka has nothing to do with a monsoon. >The two monsoons which affect Hong Kong every year are the "Winter >Monsoon" and the "Summer Monsoon". The winter monsoon is a wind, often >higher than gale-force, which comes at the NE quarter and brings us >clear blue skies, very dry conditions, and endless sunny weather. It >comes in what are referred to as "monsoon surges". As each surge >arrives, the Observatory may decide to hoist the Strong Monsoon Signal >to warn people of gale-force or higher winds. The Summer monsoon blows >generally at the South to SW direction and brings very moist air and >very high humidity. Its winds also can exceed gale-force at times, >necessitating the hoisting of the Strong Monsoon Signal. The summer >monsoon always means that the skies will be cloudy all day and it will >often be raining. >In contrast to the monsoons, this area has Tropical Cyclones, which are >separate distinct circular storms. Our Observatory here hoists Typhoon >Signals when one of these is likely to affect Hong Kong. >In Taiwan, which is only about 800 km at here, the same two monsoons >would apply, although I don't think the Summer monsoon would be as dry >there as it is here, because the East China Sea is to the NE of Taiwan. >The conditions affecting Taiwan today have no connection at all with any >monsoon; they are caused by the passage through the Bashi Channel of >Severe Tropical Storm Nangka. >After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island will >however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring >extra rain to the southern half of the island. > >Phil ><>< > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk >MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > >-----Original Message----- > at : "Ken Ring" >To: >Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:06:09 +1200 >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > at ABC newsonline: > > "Monday, June 2, 2003. 15:10 AEDT > > Warning issued as storm bears down on Taiwan > > Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau has issued a land and sea warning as > > tropical storm Nangka heads for the island's southern coast." > > Does this qualify as a monsoon? > > Ken Ring > > www.predictweather.com > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > at : "Ken Ring" > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > > > > It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an > > earlier-than-usual > > > > monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this > > period. > > The > > > > season usually goes at New moon to full moon, encompassing a > > northern > > > > declination and a perigee. Thoughts, anyone? > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > of > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.138.156.87] X-Originating-Email: [mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] at : "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 23:55:53 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2003 13:55:53.0641 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9454990:01C329D7] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sort of , see my comment earlier Gavin > at : "Keith Barnett" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? >Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 12:27:23 +1000 > >Unless of course the storm is on the monsoon trough...? >----- Original Message ----- > at : "Phil Smith" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:25 AM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > Ken, > > The word "Monsoon" literally means "season" so a storm such as STS > > Nangka has nothing to do with a monsoon. > > The two monsoons which affect Hong Kong every year are the "Winter > > Monsoon" and the "Summer Monsoon". The winter monsoon is a wind, often > > higher than gale-force, which comes at the NE quarter and brings us > > clear blue skies, very dry conditions, and endless sunny weather. It > > comes in what are referred to as "monsoon surges". As each surge > > arrives, the Observatory may decide to hoist the Strong Monsoon Signal > > to warn people of gale-force or higher winds. The Summer monsoon blows > > generally at the South to SW direction and brings very moist air and > > very high humidity. Its winds also can exceed gale-force at times, > > necessitating the hoisting of the Strong Monsoon Signal. The summer > > monsoon always means that the skies will be cloudy all day and it will > > often be raining. > > In contrast to the monsoons, this area has Tropical Cyclones, which are > > separate distinct circular storms. Our Observatory here hoists Typhoon > > Signals when one of these is likely to affect Hong Kong. > > In Taiwan, which is only about 800 km at here, the same two monsoons > > would apply, although I don't think the Summer monsoon would be as dry > > there as it is here, because the East China Sea is to the NE of Taiwan. > > The conditions affecting Taiwan today have no connection at all with any > > monsoon; they are caused by the passage through the Bashi Channel of > > Severe Tropical Storm Nangka. > > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island will > > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > at : "Ken Ring" > > To: > > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:06:09 +1200 > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > at ABC newsonline: > > > "Monday, June 2, 2003. 15:10 AEDT > > > Warning issued as storm bears down on Taiwan > > > Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau has issued a land and sea warning as > > > tropical storm Nangka heads for the island's southern coast." > > > Does this qualify as a monsoon? > > > Ken Ring > > > www.predictweather.com > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > at : "Ken Ring" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > > > > Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an > > > earlier-than-usual > > > > > monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this > > > period. > > > The > > > > > season usually goes at New moon to full moon, encompassing a > > > northern > > > > > declination and a perigee. Thoughts, anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > > of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > message. > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:17:04 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Woo hoo John, you know how to throw me a catcher!! With my arm twisted up my back I'll say that my understanding is that the word monsoon is derived at the same root as moon. Because the moon causes the weather, the eastern lunar calendar, tied to the moon, was always a device to better measure expected weather changes which is why it was retained over thousands of years and even to this day. The history of the solar calendar was that it was an early effort to distance society at paganism, of which the moon was the chief symbol. In so doing we lost our line to accurate weather forecasting. So yes, whenever the monsoons are on time, and they generally are as Phil reports, it is another victory for the moon-weather theory. I saw this monsoon weather coming back in April 16. I am unaware of the calendar as it exists in Phil's neck of the woods and am fascinated by what he says. All I did was look at the moon's orbiting characteristics for June and it appeared somewhat earlier this year. cheers Ken www.predictweather.com ----- Original Message ----- at : "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:47 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > Yo Ken, > > Sounds like the Chinese lunar calendar is a hell of lot better at > defining the seasons than is the Western calendar, at least in that > part of the world. Now (at the risk of reopening what seems to be a > painful debate for some), that would have to say something for the lunar > theory would it not? > > John. > > >snip > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Phil Smith > Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2003 5:14 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > Ken, > tomorrow is the day on the Chinese Lunar Calendar called "Tuen Ng Jit" > in Chinese. This day is figured to be the day in which the season of > Winter gives way to the season of Summer. So tomorrow, 4th of June, is > the "official" day. It is an official Public Holiday in all countries > which follow the Chinese Lunar Calendar which records the date tomorrow > as the 5th day of the 5th month of the year. > Typically the Southerly winds will begin to occasionally replace the > Northerly flow several times during the month and a half prior to > 5th/5th. Less commonly we experience late surges of the NE monsoon > later than 5th/5th. Generally for about one and a half to two months we > have alternating patterns of Northerly or Southerly winds for as short > as one day or as long as a week at a time. > Most often, the Chinese astrologers get it right and the cloudy wet > Summer weather begins on 5th/5th according to the Chinese calendar. > This date falls on a variety of very different dates on our Western > calendar. Therefore, if using the Western calendar in some years the > monsoons change a month earlier or later than in other years. > It seems to me that this year is about average, but I tend not to think > of the Western calendar when considering weather, so I can't say for > sure whether the Summer monsoon is early or late. Feels like its right > on schedule to me. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > at : "Ken Ring" > To: > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:57:12 +1200 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island > > will > > > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > > > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > > Thanks for that Phil..the dictionary describes monsoon as a wind system > > that > > reverses direction seasonally. In general usage I'd say it refers to > > the > > inclement weather that results. So-o-o getting back to my earlier post > > of > > April 16, is the area getting early monsoon activity(as the country > > defines > > it) or not? > > Ken > > www.predictweather.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > at : "Phil Smith" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:25 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > Ken, > > > The word "Monsoon" literally means "season" so a storm such as STS > > > Nangka has nothing to do with a monsoon. > > > The two monsoons which affect Hong Kong every year are the "Winter > > > Monsoon" and the "Summer Monsoon". The winter monsoon is a wind, > > often > > > higher than gale-force, which comes at the NE quarter and brings us > > > clear blue skies, very dry conditions, and endless sunny weather. It > > > comes in what are referred to as "monsoon surges". As each surge > > > arrives, the Observatory may decide to hoist the Strong Monsoon > > Signal > > > to warn people of gale-force or higher winds. The Summer monsoon > > blows > > > generally at the South to SW direction and brings very moist air > > and > > > very high humidity. Its winds also can exceed gale-force at times, > > > necessitating the hoisting of the Strong Monsoon Signal. The summer > > > monsoon always means that the skies will be cloudy all day and it > > will > > > often be raining. > > > In contrast to the monsoons, this area has Tropical Cyclones, which > > are > > > separate distinct circular storms. Our Observatory here hoists > > Typhoon > > > Signals when one of these is likely to affect Hong Kong. > > > In Taiwan, which is only about 800 km at here, the same two > > monsoons > > > would apply, although I don't think the Summer monsoon would be as > > dry > > > there as it is here, because the East China Sea is to the NE of > > Taiwan. > > > The conditions affecting Taiwan today have no connection at all with > > any > > > monsoon; they are caused by the passage through the Bashi Channel of > > > Severe Tropical Storm Nangka. > > > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island > > will > > > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > > > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > > > > > > Phil > > > <>< > > > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > at : "Ken Ring" > > > To: > > > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:06:09 +1200 > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > at ABC newsonline: > > > > "Monday, June 2, 2003. 15:10 AEDT > > > > Warning issued as storm bears down on Taiwan > > > > Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau has issued a land and sea warning > > as > > > > tropical storm Nangka heads for the island's southern coast." > > > > Does this qualify as a monsoon? > > > > Ken Ring > > > > www.predictweather.com > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > at : "Ken Ring" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > > > > > Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an > > > > earlier-than-usual > > > > > > monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this > > > > period. > > > > The > > > > > > season usually goes at New moon to full moon, encompassing a > > > > northern > > > > > > declination and a perigee. 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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 16:58:58 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2003 06:58:58.0620 (UTC) FILETIME=[C591BFC0:01C32A66] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, For those who like and use the CIMSS wind shear, divergence and vorticity products which have been absent at their site since the introduction of GOES-9....the following is the reply and my inquiry: Kevin, We hope the products you like will soon be back in service. There have been some issues with the northwest Pacific products and we were working on those before taking on the Australian area products. Thanks for your interest and kind words! Dave Stettner kjphyland at austarnet.com.au wrote: > > Hi every1, > > I've been using the CIMSS site for a number of years now and >have found the wind shear, divergence and vorticity analyses >invaluable in forecasting weather in the local region. > > I noticed that the changeover at GMS-5 to GOES-9 has greatly >reduced the number of available products on your site and was >wondering whether the shear/divergence/vorticity products are >going to be available any time soon? > > Cheers, >Kevin Phyland Looks like it'll all be up and running again soon! Cheers, Kevin at Wycheproof. P.S. The time between inquiry and reply was less than 12 hours!!! This is a site that is interested in feedback! :)) _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Weather station in Hornsby Heights. Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:21:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have now got my weather station up & running at my home in Hornsby Heights. The data it records can be viewed at: http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~damoreds/chatswoodwx.html For daily weather statistics recorded at my home visit: http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 23:43:07 +0100 (BST) at : Andrew Boskell Subject: aus-wx: SEVERE THUNDERSTORM TAKES OUT NW TASSIE RADAR To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com IDT27000 BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY TASMANIA AND ANTARCTICA REGIONAL OFFICE HOBART TOP PRIORITY SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING Issued at 6:56am on Thursday the 5th of June 2003 Final Severe Thunderstorm Warning for NW Tasmania... A severe thunderstorm was located near Smithton at 4am and appears to located near Devonport at 530am. Unfortunately the storm took out the Bureau's radar at West Takone just after 430 am and we are now unable to accurately track the storms movements. The broad track of the storms would have pushed them into the Launceston area around 6.30 am. . Lightning, winds strong enough to bring down some tree branches and power lines and locally very heavy rain are expected with the storm. The State Emergency Service advises that, before the storm arrives, people should secure outside items, move cars under cover and then go indoors. Telephone companies recommend that you don't use the telephone during a thunderstorm unless the call is urgent. This is the first Severe Thunderstorm Warning for Tassie I ever seen, so there's a first! ===== Andrew Boskell "Some people are weather wise, others are otherwise!" __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Craig and Kaz" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:00:24 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Would the activity there also be responsible or play a part in the unusual weather here in Darwin. We are experiencing weather that would normally be happening around late september early october? (High humidity/ Winds at the north west/occasional storms etc.) Craig ----- Original Message ----- at : "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:44 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > Ken, > tomorrow is the day on the Chinese Lunar Calendar called "Tuen Ng Jit" > in Chinese. This day is figured to be the day in which the season of > Winter gives way to the season of Summer. So tomorrow, 4th of June, is > the "official" day. It is an official Public Holiday in all countries > which follow the Chinese Lunar Calendar which records the date tomorrow > as the 5th day of the 5th month of the year. > Typically the Southerly winds will begin to occasionally replace the > Northerly flow several times during the month and a half prior to > 5th/5th. Less commonly we experience late surges of the NE monsoon > later than 5th/5th. Generally for about one and a half to two months we > have alternating patterns of Northerly or Southerly winds for as short > as one day or as long as a week at a time. > Most often, the Chinese astrologers get it right and the cloudy wet > Summer weather begins on 5th/5th according to the Chinese calendar. > This date falls on a variety of very different dates on our Western > calendar. Therefore, if using the Western calendar in some years the > monsoons change a month earlier or later than in other years. > It seems to me that this year is about average, but I tend not to think > of the Western calendar when considering weather, so I can't say for > sure whether the Summer monsoon is early or late. Feels like its right > on schedule to me. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > at : "Ken Ring" > To: > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:57:12 +1200 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island > > will > > > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > > > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > > Thanks for that Phil..the dictionary describes monsoon as a wind system > > that > > reverses direction seasonally. In general usage I'd say it refers to > > the > > inclement weather that results. So-o-o getting back to my earlier post > > of > > April 16, is the area getting early monsoon activity(as the country > > defines > > it) or not? > > Ken > > www.predictweather.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > at : "Phil Smith" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:25 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > Ken, > > > The word "Monsoon" literally means "season" so a storm such as STS > > > Nangka has nothing to do with a monsoon. > > > The two monsoons which affect Hong Kong every year are the "Winter > > > Monsoon" and the "Summer Monsoon". The winter monsoon is a wind, > > often > > > higher than gale-force, which comes at the NE quarter and brings us > > > clear blue skies, very dry conditions, and endless sunny weather. It > > > comes in what are referred to as "monsoon surges". As each surge > > > arrives, the Observatory may decide to hoist the Strong Monsoon > > Signal > > > to warn people of gale-force or higher winds. The Summer monsoon > > blows > > > generally at the South to SW direction and brings very moist air > > and > > > very high humidity. Its winds also can exceed gale-force at times, > > > necessitating the hoisting of the Strong Monsoon Signal. The summer > > > monsoon always means that the skies will be cloudy all day and it > > will > > > often be raining. > > > In contrast to the monsoons, this area has Tropical Cyclones, which > > are > > > separate distinct circular storms. Our Observatory here hoists > > Typhoon > > > Signals when one of these is likely to affect Hong Kong. > > > In Taiwan, which is only about 800 km at here, the same two > > monsoons > > > would apply, although I don't think the Summer monsoon would be as > > dry > > > there as it is here, because the East China Sea is to the NE of > > Taiwan. > > > The conditions affecting Taiwan today have no connection at all with > > any > > > monsoon; they are caused by the passage through the Bashi Channel of > > > Severe Tropical Storm Nangka. > > > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the island > > will > > > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to bring > > > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > > > > > > Phil > > > <>< > > > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > at : "Ken Ring" > > > To: > > > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:06:09 +1200 > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > at ABC newsonline: > > > > "Monday, June 2, 2003. 15:10 AEDT > > > > Warning issued as storm bears down on Taiwan > > > > Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau has issued a land and sea warning > > as > > > > tropical storm Nangka heads for the island's southern coast." > > > > Does this qualify as a monsoon? > > > > Ken Ring > > > > www.predictweather.com > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > at : "Ken Ring" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > > > > > Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an > > > > earlier-than-usual > > > > > > monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this > > > > period. > > > > The > > > > > > season usually goes at New moon to full moon, encompassing a > > > > northern > > > > > > declination and a perigee. Thoughts, anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > > body > > > > of > > > > your > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > of > > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > + > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > of > > > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > > - > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Richard Albury" To: Subject: aus-wx: Stormy Weather Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 10:22:28 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Weather overnight 05-06-003: 0900hrs Hi everyone Last night Adelaide was lashed with gales and squalls with 2 thunderstorms(that I know of) causing widespread damage, more in the northern suburbs than else where. The first squall hit at 23.17 hours accompanied by a thunderstorm, heavy rain and hail. I estimate the wind speed was close to 100 kms/hr and at the Adelaide Airport it was well over that. Powerlines and trees brought down, flooding in many areas with the emergency crews of many utilities attending many callouts by distressed householders. In short a very stormy night last night. Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Aust. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 13:30:16 +1000 at : Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aus-wx Subject: aus-wx: Fog This Morning... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, It's been a fun few days with storms! Too bad most of them were at night (which is fine, just that the lightning wasn't hugely frequent in the storms that I saw), so would have been better to enjoy them during the day! Oh well, can't be fussy when you get storms in June though!!! Had some nice fog this morning...was testing out my new digicam, of course fog isn't the most colourful thing in the world to photograph! But got a couple of wintery/desolate looking photos... http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/Fog2.jpg and... http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/SunTree.jpg Both very simple photos, but I liked them...portrayed a very wintery/late autumn scene... -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) 0417 759 304 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.136.160.249] X-Originating-Email: [dr_copious at hotmail.com] at : "Brendon Simmons" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SEVERE THUNDERSTORM TAKES OUT NW TASSIE RADAR Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 13:49:13 +0930 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2003 04:19:14.0255 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F4175F0:01C32B19] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It's the first for me too... :)) Brendon Simmons >IDT27000 >BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY >TASMANIA AND ANTARCTICA REGIONAL OFFICE >HOBART > > > >TOP PRIORITY >SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING >Issued at 6:56am on Thursday the 5th of June 2003 > > > >Final > >Severe Thunderstorm Warning for NW Tasmania... > >A severe thunderstorm was located near Smithton at 4am >and appears to located >near Devonport at 530am. Unfortunately the storm took >out the Bureau's radar at >West Takone just after 430 am and we are now unable >to accurately track the >storms movements. The broad track of the storms would >have pushed them into the >Launceston area around 6.30 am. . > >Lightning, winds strong enough to bring down some tree >branches and power lines >and locally very heavy rain are expected with the >storm. > >The State Emergency Service advises that, before the >storm arrives, people >should secure outside items, move cars under cover and >then go indoors. >Telephone companies recommend that you don't use the >telephone during a >thunderstorm unless the call is urgent. > >This is the first Severe Thunderstorm Warning for >Tassie I ever seen, so there's a first! > >===== >Andrew Boskell > >"Some people are weather wise, others are otherwise!" > >__________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience >http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Brendon Simmons South Australian Weather - www.saweather.net Australian Severe Weather Association - www.severeweather.asn.au _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fog This Morning... Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 15:12:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Supercell. A very nice picture of dew fog and a tree the sun sets it off. What sort of camera is it, since I purchased my digi cam last June I have taken almost 2000 shots! I am very happy with my Canon A40 the only fault I can find with it is occasional focus problems at 3 times Zoom. Good luck with your new camera . regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: aus-wx: Fog This Morning... > Hi Everyone, > > It's been a fun few days with storms! Too bad most of them were at > night (which is fine, just that the lightning wasn't hugely frequent in > the storms that I saw), so would have been better to enjoy them during > the day! Oh well, can't be fussy when you get storms in June though!!! > > Had some nice fog this morning...was testing out my new digicam, of > course fog isn't the most colourful thing in the world to photograph! > But got a couple of wintery/desolate looking photos... > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/Fog2.jpg > > and... > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/SunTree.jpg > > Both very simple photos, but I liked them...portrayed a very > wintery/late autumn scene... > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > 0417 759 304 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 13:15:57 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I don't know really. Maybe the weather in Darwin has something to do with the fact that both tropical weather systems being tracked at present are in the Southern Hemisphere: Tropical Cyclone 29P in the SWP is west of Fiji and the Tropical Low in the Coral Sea being warned on by BoM Qld is near Papua New Guinea. The recent Tropical Cyclones here have both gone in quite unusual tracks. Weather just is not being real sensible right now. Come to think of it, it never is really sensible! I guess that's the feature that makes it really exciting. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : "Craig and Kaz" To: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:00:24 +0930 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > Would the activity there also be responsible or play a part in the > unusual > weather here in Darwin. We are experiencing weather that would > normally be > happening around late september early october? (High humidity/ Winds > at > the north west/occasional storms etc.) > > Craig > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:44 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > Ken, > > tomorrow is the day on the Chinese Lunar Calendar called "Tuen Ng > Jit" > > in Chinese. This day is figured to be the day in which the season of > > Winter gives way to the season of Summer. So tomorrow, 4th of June, > is > > the "official" day. It is an official Public Holiday in all > countries > > which follow the Chinese Lunar Calendar which records the date > tomorrow > > as the 5th day of the 5th month of the year. > > Typically the Southerly winds will begin to occasionally replace the > > Northerly flow several times during the month and a half prior to > > 5th/5th. Less commonly we experience late surges of the NE monsoon > > later than 5th/5th. Generally for about one and a half to two months > we > > have alternating patterns of Northerly or Southerly winds for as > short > > as one day or as long as a week at a time. > > Most often, the Chinese astrologers get it right and the cloudy wet > > Summer weather begins on 5th/5th according to the Chinese calendar. > > This date falls on a variety of very different dates on our Western > > calendar. Therefore, if using the Western calendar in some years the > > monsoons change a month earlier or later than in other years. > > It seems to me that this year is about average, but I tend not to > think > > of the Western calendar when considering weather, so I can't say for > > sure whether the Summer monsoon is early or late. Feels like its > right > > on schedule to me. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > at : "Ken Ring" > > To: > > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:57:12 +1200 > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the > island > > > will > > > > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to > bring > > > > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > > > Thanks for that Phil..the dictionary describes monsoon as a wind > system > > > that > > > reverses direction seasonally. In general usage I'd say it refers > to > > > the > > > inclement weather that results. So-o-o getting back to my earlier > post > > > of > > > April 16, is the area getting early monsoon activity(as the country > > > defines > > > it) or not? > > > Ken > > > www.predictweather.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > at : "Phil Smith" > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:25 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > > > > Ken, > > > > The word "Monsoon" literally means "season" so a storm such as > STS > > > > Nangka has nothing to do with a monsoon. > > > > The two monsoons which affect Hong Kong every year are the > "Winter > > > > Monsoon" and the "Summer Monsoon". The winter monsoon is a wind, > > > often > > > > higher than gale-force, which comes at the NE quarter and > brings us > > > > clear blue skies, very dry conditions, and endless sunny weather. > It > > > > comes in what are referred to as "monsoon surges". As each surge > > > > arrives, the Observatory may decide to hoist the Strong Monsoon > > > Signal > > > > to warn people of gale-force or higher winds. The Summer monsoon > > > blows > > > > generally at the South to SW direction and brings very moist > air > > > and > > > > very high humidity. Its winds also can exceed gale-force at > times, > > > > necessitating the hoisting of the Strong Monsoon Signal. The > summer > > > > monsoon always means that the skies will be cloudy all day and it > > > will > > > > often be raining. > > > > In contrast to the monsoons, this area has Tropical Cyclones, > which > > > are > > > > separate distinct circular storms. Our Observatory here hoists > > > Typhoon > > > > Signals when one of these is likely to affect Hong Kong. > > > > In Taiwan, which is only about 800 km at here, the same two > > > monsoons > > > > would apply, although I don't think the Summer monsoon would be > as > > > dry > > > > there as it is here, because the East China Sea is to the NE of > > > Taiwan. > > > > The conditions affecting Taiwan today have no connection at all > with > > > any > > > > monsoon; they are caused by the passage through the Bashi Channel > of > > > > Severe Tropical Storm Nangka. > > > > After the storm has passed, its presence to the East of the > island > > > will > > > > however enhance the SW monsoon for a day or so, allowing it to > bring > > > > extra rain to the southern half of the island. > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > <>< > > > > > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > at : "Ken Ring" > > > > To: > > > > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:06:09 +1200 > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > > > at ABC newsonline: > > > > > "Monday, June 2, 2003. 15:10 AEDT > > > > > Warning issued as storm bears down on Taiwan > > > > > Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau has issued a land and sea > warning > > > as > > > > > tropical storm Nangka heads for the island's southern coast." > > > > > Does this qualify as a monsoon? > > > > > Ken Ring > > > > > www.predictweather.com > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > at : "Ken Ring" > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > > > > > > Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an > > > > > earlier-than-usual > > > > > > > monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of > this > > > > > period. > > > > > The > > > > > > > season usually goes at New moon to full moon, > encompassing a > > > > > northern > > > > > > > declination and a perigee. Thoughts, anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in > the > > > body > > > > > of > > > > > your > > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body > > > of > > > > > your > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > > + > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body > > > of > > > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: "aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: Tropical bloom! Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 15:21:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all tropos. A rather large and unusual tropical convective area moving southwest into the north east Coral sea and showing some weak upper divergence seems to be developing at the north end of an upper long wave. regards Clyve H +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 14:59:24 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tropical bloom! X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes Clyve. It is indeed unusual to be tracking TWO tropical systems in the Southern Hemisphere in June. See the links at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for details. The one in the Coral Sea is being warned on by BoM Qld and the Tropical Cyclone west of Fiji is numbered 29P by JTWC and 17F by FMS. Did the SH decide to forgo having a winter this year? Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : "Clyve Herbert" To: "aussie weather" Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 15:21:40 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Tropical bloom! > Hi all tropos. A rather large and unusual tropical convective area > moving > southwest into the north east Coral sea and showing some weak upper > divergence seems to be developing at the north end of an upper long > wave. > regards Clyve H > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ XAntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses via the Connexus Internet Service at : "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tropical bloom! Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:44:07 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Funny you should mention that, it has been unusually mild and wet for the past few days in SEQ, with 47mm of rain at Mt. Crosby overnight on Tuesday/Wed., not bad given a monthly average for June of 55mm. Seems to be returning to the usual dry colder conditions normally expected now though. John. >snip -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Thursday, 5 June 2003 4:59 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tropical bloom! Yes Clyve. It is indeed unusual to be tracking TWO tropical systems in the Southern Hemisphere in June. See the links at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for details. The one in the Coral Sea is being warned on by BoM Qld and the Tropical Cyclone west of Fiji is numbered 29P by JTWC and 17F by FMS. Did the SH decide to forgo having a winter this year? Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 10/03/2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 19:13:24 +1000 at : Tim Eckert Subject: Re: aus-wx: Stormy Weather To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Plus the storms spawned a tornado that ripped through a couple of streets and market gardens in Salisbury Nth, a northern suburb of Adelaide. An ASWA member has been out there for an assessment today and reckons it was an F0. Good to see not one mention of the 'mini' word by any media outlet today either. In fact, news services tonight are warning that more tornados are possible tonight as according to the BOM, the weather could be more severe than last night's in some areas. A SWA and a STW is out for Adelaide with possible squalls to 120km/h. I have received 25mm at the system since yesterday morning. Could possibly double that by tomorrow night. Tim. Adelaide. ---- Original message ---- >Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 10:22:28 +0930 > at : "Richard Albury" Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 19:28:17 +0930 (Cen. Australia Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) at : "Richard Modistach" X-FID: BA285063-5BCE-11D4-AF8D-0050DAC67E11 X-FVER: X-FIT: X-FCOL: X-FCAT: X-FDIS: X-BG: X-BGT: repeat X-BGC: #eff3f7 X-BGPX: left X-BGPY: 0px X-ASN: ANIM3D00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-ASNF: 0 X-ASH: ANIM3D00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-ASHF: 1 X-AN: 6486DDE0-3EFD-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030 X-ANF: 0 X-AP: 6486DDE0-3EFD-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030 X-APF: 1 X-AD: C3C52140-4147-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030 X-ADF: 0 X-AUTO: X-ASN,X-ASH,X-AN,X-AP,X-AD X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Stormy Weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com friggen hell!!!!!!!!!!!, if that front keeps firing like that i'm gunna be out nader chasing tonight. richard -------Original Message------- at : aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thursday, 5 June 2003 6:57:03 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Stormy Weather Plus the storms spawned a tornado that ripped through a couple of streets and market gardens in Salisbury Nth, a northern suburb of Adelaide. An ASWA member has been out there for an assessment today and reckons it was an F0. Good to see not one mention of the 'mini' word by any media outlet today either. In fact, news services tonight are warning that more tornados are possible tonight as according to the BOM, the weather could be more severe than last night's in some areas. A SWA and a STW is out for Adelaide with possible squalls to 120km/h. I have received 25mm at the system since yesterday morning. Could possibly double that by tomorrow night. Tim. Adelaide. ---- Original message ---- >Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 10:22:28 +0930 > at : "Richard Albury" at : "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tropical bloom! Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:23:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Greetings Phil. Well winter is well under way here in Victoria, a cold wave expected on Friday should see the snow line get close to 600m Friday night. There is a rather large southern Ocean low in the Bight with a good field of polar air behind it. The BOM Melb has issued a gale warning for Victoria with gusts possible to 100kph especially in the more exposed coastal and mountain areas. regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:59 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tropical bloom! > Yes Clyve. > It is indeed unusual to be tracking TWO tropical systems in the Southern > Hemisphere in June. See the links at > http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for details. The one in the Coral > Sea is being warned on by BoM Qld and the Tropical Cyclone west of Fiji > is numbered 29P by JTWC and 17F by FMS. > Did the SH decide to forgo having a winter this year? > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > at : "Clyve Herbert" > To: "aussie weather" > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 15:21:40 +1000 > Subject: aus-wx: Tropical bloom! > > > Hi all tropos. A rather large and unusual tropical convective area > > moving > > southwest into the north east Coral sea and showing some weak upper > > divergence seems to be developing at the north end of an upper long > > wave. > > regards Clyve H > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: "aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: Cold air mass Aus Bight Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:31:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all cold weather lovers. The Australian Bight is a truly impressive sight tonight with one of the best cold air field showers/storms I have seen for a long time, its even possible to see the polar jet just north of the deep low pressure complex west of Tasmania. The cold front entering the southwest of Vic looks pretty active as well,looks like at last Victoria is in for some interesting weather....regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:14:45 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold air mass Aus Bight Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:31 PM 5/06/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi all cold weather lovers. The Australian Bight is a truly impressive sight >tonight with one of the best cold air field showers/storms I have seen for a >long time, its even possible to see the polar jet just north of the deep low >pressure complex west of Tasmania. The cold front entering the southwest of >Vic looks pretty active as well,looks like at last Victoria is in for some >interesting weather....regards Clyve H. Cool, I'll have the camera at the ready. I'll take any weather that is interesting... 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold air mass Aus Bight To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 at : David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:27:41 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 6.0|September 26, 2002) at 05/06/2003 09:27:42 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI Clyve, We all hope to see some real cold weather in NSW as well.. Mind you its 5.1 in Bathurst now, Orange 3.8, Thredbo -2.1 . So the Central Tablelands has some cold areas at the moment. Im not looking forward to leaving work at 10pm in Bathurst, sure will be a chilly night. Heres hoping for some snow flakes in the Oberon area. Just getting some info at friend in Oberon , very cold there, plus a very cold wind as well. David http://www.hotkey.net.au/~davidkc/snowreports.html "Clyve Herbert" To: "aussie weather" Sent by: cc: aussie-weather-approval at wo Subject: aus-wx: Cold air mass Aus Bight rld.std.com 05/06/2003 08:31 PM Please respond to aussie-weather Hi all cold weather lovers. The Australian Bight is a truly impressive sight tonight with one of the best cold air field showers/storms I have seen for a long time, its even possible to see the polar jet just north of the deep low pressure complex west of Tasmania. The cold front entering the southwest of Vic looks pretty active as well,looks like at last Victoria is in for some interesting weather....regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. 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Tropical Cyclone Epi in in the N Coral Sea S of PNG. Links to info on both systems are on my website at http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Regards, Carl. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:31:37 +0200 (CEST) at : Robert Goler To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Heaps of storms for Germany X-MIME-Autoconverted: at QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by europe.std.com id RAA06213 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey all We had yet another storm go through Munich today, making it 7 days of storms in just under 2 weeks. There were many storms throughout Germany, and looking on the radar, there were a few right-movers amongst the lot. Radar loop is here (purple is the most intense rain) http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~robert/Weather/2003_06_05/radar_loop.gif I must say that I have been astonished by how frequent storms have been here. I bought myself a digital camera today, so hopefully I'll be able to capture some action. In the meantime, check out a German storm chasers website here: http://www.sturmwetter.de/ It's all in German of course, so just click on the pictures. In the bottom right of the page is a list of past events. Click on the 31 May event for 3-4cm hail (5cm hail was reported elsewhere on that day)! Cheers -- Robert A. Goler Meteorologisches Institut München Theresienstr. 37 D-80333 München Tel.: +49 89 2180 4387 Fax.: +49 89 2180 4182 http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:26:58 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > I don't know really. > Maybe the weather in Darwin has something to do with the fact that both > tropical weather systems being tracked at present are in the Southern > Hemisphere: Tropical Cyclone 29P in the SWP is west of Fiji and the > Tropical Low in the Coral Sea being warned on by BoM Qld is near Papua > New Guinea. As far as I can tell at our database, Epi was the first June TC in this region since 1972. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:15:19 +0100 (BST) at : Andrew Boskell Subject: Re: aus-wx: SEVERE THUNDERSTORM TAKES OUT NW TASSIE RADAR To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Brendon & all, I think this week has really tested the Bureau - the weather along the NW coast of tas has been rather "rough" :-) Looks like another storm coming thru as I type........ Regards, Andrew. --- Brendon Simmons wrote: > It's the first for me too... :)) > > Brendon Simmons > > > >IDT27000 > >BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY > >TASMANIA AND ANTARCTICA REGIONAL OFFICE > >HOBART > > > > > > > >TOP PRIORITY > >SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING > >Issued at 6:56am on Thursday the 5th of June 2003 > > > > > > > >Final > > > >Severe Thunderstorm Warning for NW Tasmania... > > > >A severe thunderstorm was located near Smithton at > 4am > >and appears to located > >near Devonport at 530am. Unfortunately the storm > took > >out the Bureau's radar at > >West Takone just after 430 am and we are now > unable > >to accurately track the > >storms movements. The broad track of the storms > would > >have pushed them into the > >Launceston area around 6.30 am. . > > > >Lightning, winds strong enough to bring down some > tree > >branches and power lines > >and locally very heavy rain are expected with the > >storm. > > > >The State Emergency Service advises that, before > the > >storm arrives, people > >should secure outside items, move cars under cover > and > >then go indoors. > >Telephone companies recommend that you don't use > the > >telephone during a > >thunderstorm unless the call is urgent. > > > >This is the first Severe Thunderstorm Warning for > >Tassie I ever seen, so there's a first! > > > >===== > >Andrew Boskell > > > >"Some people are weather wise, others are > otherwise!" > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience > >http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > Brendon Simmons > > South Australian Weather - www.saweather.net > Australian Severe Weather Association - > www.severeweather.asn.au > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile > phones. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ===== Andrew Boskell "Some people are weather wise, others are otherwise!" __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:21:16 +0100 (BST) at : Andrew Boskell Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold air mass Aus Bight To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Clyve, This system provided winds last night around 100Km/h for Devonport and cuased some minor damage around the place - it's been hard tracking this stuff with the West Takone radar out of action. Regards, Andrew. --- Clyve Herbert wrote: > Hi all cold weather lovers. The Australian Bight is > a truly impressive sight > tonight with one of the best cold air field > showers/storms I have seen for a > long time, its even possible to see the polar jet > just north of the deep low > pressure complex west of Tasmania. The cold front > entering the southwest of > Vic looks pretty active as well,looks like at last > Victoria is in for some > interesting weather....regards Clyve H. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ===== Andrew Boskell "Some people are weather wise, others are otherwise!" __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.134.113.234] X-Originating-Email: [mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] at : "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Strong Winds in ACT Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 17:21:13 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2003 07:21:13.0439 (UTC) FILETIME=[360276F0:01C32BFC] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all , We recorded a peak gust of 68 km/hr at the West at 1051 6th June at Gilmore winds have eased in the last few hours. Gavin SSWW Canberra _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Tuan Phan" To: Subject: aus-wx: BoM website in demand Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 18:24:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, With so much wx happening at the moment, the BoM site is in huge demand, and people may notice it is a bit sluggish at the moment. It will be interesting to see after the long weekend how much traffic actually occurred for today. For yesterday (5/6), I notice the site had: Main web - >2,000,000 hits Radar - >6.5 million, which seems quite a lot. In perspective, Feb 2003 is the biggest month to date. I notice several days had nearly 12,000,000 hits for the radar alone (add between 4-5 million for the main web pages). 50% (14/28) of Feb days had >7.5 million hits for radar. Of the days that had nearly 12 million hits, 50% of the hits occurred between 16:00 & 17:00. Yes, you read correctly...6,000,000 hits in ONE hour!!! Talk about traffic jam. To those interested, the biggest days were Feb 3&4 and 27&28. I can't remember what significant event ocurred around those date to cause people to go berserk. ( at top of my head, I think TC Fiona, and fires around SE Aus) cheers, tuan +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Robert M" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: BoM website in demand X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 144.139.225.147 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 06:10:45 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - neptune.hiddenservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [1875 1885] / [1875 1885] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - neptune.hiddenservers.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi. eek thats alot of hits... How meany people live in Australia? and have the net :P --------------------------- Nick name: Weathernut Real name: Robert M Web site: http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com Email: weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com --------------------------- > > Hi all, > > With so much wx happening at the moment, the BoM site is in huge demand, and > people may notice it is a bit sluggish at the moment. It will be interesting > to see after the long weekend how much traffic actually occurred for today. > > For yesterday (5/6), I notice the site had: > Main web - >2,000,000 hits > Radar - >6.5 million, which seems quite a lot. > > In perspective, Feb 2003 is the biggest month to date. I notice several days > had nearly 12,000,000 hits for the radar alone (add between 4-5 million for > the main web pages). 50% (14/28) of Feb days had >7.5 million hits for > radar. > > Of the days that had nearly 12 million hits, 50% of the hits occurred > between 16:00 & 17:00. Yes, you read correctly...6,000,000 hits in ONE > hour!!! Talk about traffic jam. > > To those interested, the biggest days were Feb 3&4 and 27&28. I can't > remember what significant event ocurred around those date to cause people to > go berserk. ( at top of my head, I think TC Fiona, and fires around SE Aus) > > cheers, > tuan > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Robert M" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Winter Weather photo`s X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 144.139.225.147 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 06:16:14 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - neptune.hiddenservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [1875 1885] / [1875 1885] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - neptune.hiddenservers.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Here are some pic`s. http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/winter http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/winter/3june03 http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/winter/sunset --------------------------- Nick name: Weathernut Real name: Robert M Web site: http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com Email: weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com --------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.139.223.110] X-Originating-Email: [mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] at : "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold air mass Aus Bight Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 00:41:38 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2003 14:41:39.0274 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD08E2A0:01C32C39] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI ALL AT 00 35hrs AEST winds at Gilmore are strengthening as the cold front approaches Canberra gusts now exceeding 50 km /hr at west northwest yet to reach the west 68 km/hr at ...now gusted WNW 69 km/hr at 00.38 7th June Gavin SSWW Canberra > at : Andrew Boskell >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold air mass Aus Bight >Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:21:16 +0100 (BST) > >G'day Clyve, > >This system provided winds last night around 100Km/h >for Devonport and cuased some minor damage around the >place - it's been hard tracking this stuff with the >West Takone radar out of action. > >Regards, > >Andrew. > > --- Clyve Herbert wrote: > Hi >all cold weather lovers. The Australian Bight is > > a truly impressive sight > > tonight with one of the best cold air field > > showers/storms I have seen for a > > long time, its even possible to see the polar jet > > just north of the deep low > > pressure complex west of Tasmania. The cold front > > entering the southwest of > > Vic looks pretty active as well,looks like at last > > Victoria is in for some > > interesting weather....regards Clyve H. > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > > your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >===== >Andrew Boskell > >"Some people are weather wise, others are otherwise!" > >__________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience >http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.139.223.110] X-Originating-Email: [mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] at : "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 00:44:04 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2003 14:44:04.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[13D13970:01C32C3A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blair, I can't recalla June TC for a long time Gavin > at : Blair Trewin >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early monsoons? >Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:26:58 +1000 (EST) > > > > > I don't know really. > > Maybe the weather in Darwin has something to do with the fact that both > > tropical weather systems being tracked at present are in the Southern > > Hemisphere: Tropical Cyclone 29P in the SWP is west of Fiji and the > > Tropical Low in the Coral Sea being warned on by BoM Qld is near Papua > > New Guinea. > >As far as I can tell at our database, Epi was the first June TC in >this region since 1972. > >Blair > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Superfast Weather Computer Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 00:43:59 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For thoes who may not have seen this yet... Subject: [MAWS General List] Superfast Weather Computer "Superfast computer should brighten forecast ability for U.S. Weather Service" (Source: AP, 6/5/03) WASHINGTON - The National Weather Service is beginning to use a new computer that when fully deployed will be about four times faster than the world's top current computer. The first phase of the new system, already in service but being announced at ceremonies Friday, is a cluster of 44 IBM servers with a peak speed of 7.3 trillion calculations per second. By 2009, the system will be expanded to reach a potential speed of 100 trillion calculations per second, IBM said. The added power is expected to help forecasters who run complex programs that take measurements of weather conditions around the world and project them forward in small increments to determine what the weather will be like in hours and days. The results of the various outlooks form the basis for television and newspaper forecasts. They also are used in aviation, agriculture, disaster response and many other areas. Improvements at the new computer power are expected to include better hurricane forecasts, with that storm season just getting under way. This year, the Weather Service will issue five-day hurricane forecasts, replacing the three-day advisories used since 1964. Accurate, longer-range outlooks should help increasingly populated coastal areas. They also will be helpful for those who need more than three days to move themselves and their property, such as the navy. Instead of being located in a government facility, the new computer is at a specially prepared IBM facility in Gaithersburg, Md., and is linked to the Weather Service by high-speed data lines. The deal is expected to cost about $200 million US over nine years. In 2000, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration installed a supercomputer capable of five trillion calculations per second in its Forecast Systems Laboratory in Boulder, Colo. That lab studies forecasting and develops the computer models used in daily forecasting work. Regs, Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 18:38:05 +0200 (CEST) at : Robert Goler To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heaps of storms for Germany X-MIME-Autoconverted: at QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by europe.std.com id MAA11476 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey again More storms today for Munich with heaps of lightning and thunder. What amused me was the 12Z Munich sounding (2pm local time) : http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~robert/Weather/10868.gif Just a bit of CAPE there....only 5816J....hehehehe!!!!! Of course it depends on how you define your surface parcel!! Cheers -- Robert A. Goler Meteorologisches Institut München Theresienstr. 37 D-80333 München Tel.: +49 89 2180 4387 Fax.: +49 89 2180 4182 http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heaps of storms for Germany Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 10:07:33 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, that CAPE does not look correct. Computer must have made an error there. I don't think Germany would get CAPE values as high as USA or New South Wales. I have never studied European weather but given the latitude of Germany and the fact that the moisture source would not be as rich as Midwest/NSW, I come to this conclusion. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Robert Goler" To: Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 4:38 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heaps of storms for Germany Hey again More storms today for Munich with heaps of lightning and thunder. What amused me was the 12Z Munich sounding (2pm local time) : http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~robert/Weather/10868.gif Just a bit of CAPE there....only 5816J....hehehehe!!!!! Of course it depends on how you define your surface parcel!! Cheers -- Robert A. Goler Meteorologisches Institut München Theresienstr. 37 D-80333 München Tel.: +49 89 2180 4387 Fax.: +49 89 2180 4182 http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Snow/Sleet Oberon Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 10:43:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi All.
 
JUst recvd call at friends in Oberon, slight snow/sleet falling now in Hazelgrove, which is about 4 km at Oberon.  No reports as yet at police re road being checked.   
 
 
at : "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Superfast Weather Computer Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 10:44:07 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com More details & photos here http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories/s1156.htm Regs, Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- at : "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:43 AM Subject: aus-wx: Superfast Weather Computer > For thoes who may not have seen this yet... > > > Subject: [MAWS General List] Superfast Weather Computer > > > "Superfast computer should brighten forecast ability for U.S. Weather > Service" (Source: AP, 6/5/03) > > WASHINGTON - The National Weather Service is beginning to use a new > computer that when fully deployed will be about four times faster than > the world's top current computer. > > The first phase of the new system, already in service but being > announced at ceremonies Friday, is a cluster of 44 IBM servers with a > peak speed of 7.3 trillion calculations per second. By 2009, the > system will be expanded to reach a potential speed of 100 trillion > calculations per second, IBM said. > > The added power is expected to help forecasters who run complex > programs that take measurements of weather conditions around the world > and project them forward in small increments to determine what the > weather will be like in hours and days. > > The results of the various outlooks form the basis for television and > newspaper forecasts. They also are used in aviation, agriculture, > disaster response and many other areas. > > Improvements at the new computer power are expected to include > better hurricane forecasts, with that storm season just getting under > way. This year, the Weather Service will issue five-day hurricane > forecasts, replacing the three-day advisories used since 1964. > > Accurate, longer-range outlooks should help increasingly populated > coastal areas. They also will be helpful for those who need more than > three days to move themselves and their property, such as the navy. > > Instead of being located in a government facility, the new computer is > at a specially prepared IBM facility in Gaithersburg, Md., and is > linked to the Weather Service by high-speed data lines. > > The deal is expected to cost about $200 million US over nine years. > In 2000, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration installed > a supercomputer capable of five trillion calculations per second in > its Forecast Systems Laboratory in Boulder, Colo. That lab studies > forecasting and develops the computer models used in daily forecasting > work. > > > > Regs, Paul. > (Stargazer) > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Weather Cams?? Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 18:22:54 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have just moved to Hornsby Heights & at my verandah there is a spectacular view overlooking Dural & beyond, prefect for watching storms roll in at the West. I have been to many computer & retail shops asking what the best web cam would be but no one can advise me of any at all!!! What do I use?? MICHAEL BATH the Mccleans Ridges weather webcam is great. What do you use there ?? Damian +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Snow northeast of Melbourne Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:44:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, a few images at my wanders about the ranges northeast of Melbourne today. Macca beat me to the top of Donna Buang and reported snow falling as well as lying on the ground - by the time I got there about 3 hours later, the cold air had moved on and I got sleet, snow pellets, rain and a temp of 1.8°C. A not-so-small tree across the road between Cambarville and Lake Mountain - you wouldn't have wanted to be under this when it came down!! http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0607jon02.jpg rising damp! http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0607jon03.jpg snow lying - Mt Donna Buang (1250m) http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0607jon06.jpg highland fog http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0607jon07.jpg Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 03:57:58 +1000 at : Matthew Smith Organization: IDXNET X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow northeast of Melbourne Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Nice pix there Jane!!! Better than sitting at home doing nothing, wish I was up there with you! BTW anyone who hasnt seen Dan Weatherheads photos of the storm in Sydney the other day should deffinatly take a peak, fantastic shots, www.sydneystormchasers.com Matt Smith Jane ONeill wrote: > Evening all, > > a few images at my wanders about the ranges northeast of Melbourne > today. Macca beat me to the top of Donna Buang and reported snow > falling as well as lying on the ground - by the time I got there about 3 > hours later, the cold air had moved on and I got sleet, snow pellets, > rain and a temp of 1.8°C. > > A not-so-small tree across the road between Cambarville and Lake > Mountain - you wouldn't have wanted to be under this when it came down!! > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0607jon02.jpg > rising damp! > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0607jon03.jpg > snow lying - Mt Donna Buang (1250m) > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0607jon06.jpg > highland fog > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0607jon07.jpg > > Cheers, > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 09:56:42 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Cams?? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Damian, Have a look in this weatherzone thread: http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003589 MB At 06:22 PM 7/06/2003 +1000, you wrote: >I have just moved to Hornsby Heights & at my verandah there is a >spectacular view overlooking Dural & beyond, prefect for watching storms >roll in at the West. I have been to many computer & retail shops asking >what the best web cam would be but no one can advise me of any at all!!! > >What do I use?? > >MICHAEL BATH the Mccleans Ridges weather webcam is great. >What do you use there ?? > > >Damian > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ =================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ =================================================================== X-Originating-IP: [144.136.160.249] X-Originating-Email: [dr_copious at hotmail.com] at : "Brendon Simmons" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: BoM website in demand Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 15:14:29 +0930 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2003 05:44:29.0963 (UTC) FILETIME=[07B1CDB0:01C32D81] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com WOW!!! I didnt realise how much the BoM website was used. I did actually notice it being a little sluggish too.......no wonder. :0 Brendon > at : "Tuan Phan" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: BoM website in demand >Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 18:24:12 +1000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: at TheWorld.com ([199.172.62.103]) by mc1-f11.law16.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:28:45 -0700 >Received: at europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20])by >TheWorld.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h568Pv0a018771;Fri, 6 Jun 2003 >04:27:53 -0400 >Received: ( at daemon at localhost)by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id >EAA12055for aussie-weather-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 04:25:19 -0400 (EDT) >Received: at TheWorld.com (pcls2.std.com [199.172.62.104])by >europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11315for >; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 04:24:27 -0400 (EDT) >Received: at rain.ho.bom.gov.au (rain.ho.bom.gov.au [134.178.6.64])by >TheWorld.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h568OHS0026232for >; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 04:24:23 -0400 >Received: at NMOC5 (nmoc5.bom.gov.au [134.178.2.122])by >rain.ho.bom.gov.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_26305+JAGae58098)/8.9.3) with SMTP id >IAA22827for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 08:24:14 GMT >X-Message-Info: yilqo4+6kc64AXpUCzRAW30W84h6gtv8 >Message-ID: <002101c32c05$03cc86e0$7a02b286 at bom.gov.au> >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 >In-Reply-To: >Importance: Normal >Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >Precedence: list >Return-Path: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2003 08:28:45.0475 (UTC) >FILETIME=[A5361730:01C32C05] > > >Hi all, > >With so much wx happening at the moment, the BoM site is in huge demand, >and >people may notice it is a bit sluggish at the moment. It will be >interesting >to see after the long weekend how much traffic actually occurred for today. > >For yesterday (5/6), I notice the site had: >Main web - >2,000,000 hits >Radar - >6.5 million, which seems quite a lot. > >In perspective, Feb 2003 is the biggest month to date. I notice several >days >had nearly 12,000,000 hits for the radar alone (add between 4-5 million for >the main web pages). 50% (14/28) of Feb days had >7.5 million hits for >radar. > >Of the days that had nearly 12 million hits, 50% of the hits occurred >between 16:00 & 17:00. Yes, you read correctly...6,000,000 hits in ONE >hour!!! Talk about traffic jam. > >To those interested, the biggest days were Feb 3&4 and 27&28. I can't >remember what significant event ocurred around those date to cause people >to >go berserk. ( at top of my head, I think TC Fiona, and fires around SE >Aus) > >cheers, >tuan > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Brendon Simmons South Australian Weather - www.saweather.net Australian Severe Weather Association - www.severeweather.asn.au _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: TC Gina Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:06:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blair and others, Is 950hPa for a TC in our area during June a record or close to being one? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 15:57:42 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Quoted at another list I am on: "TC Keli reached 115kt on 12th June 1997 near 12S/178W" I remember how amazed we all were on the cyclones list when Keli became so powerful in the SH winter. Hurricane Gina in June is analogous to a Northern Hemisphere typhoon in December and we get plenty of them around these parts. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:06:30 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: TC Gina > Blair and others, > > Is 950hPa for a TC in our area during June a record or close to being > one? > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 17:41:48 +0930 at : Paul Mossman Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'd have to disagree about that Phil. A TC in June comparable to a Typhoon in Dec up your way? No way... way different set-ups. A Typhoon in Dec is not that rare an event in the Northern Hempishere - bearing in mind that the equatorial trough is still hanging around as well as the monsoon trough (the Southern monsoon starts sometime around dec but there is always a good chance of a split trough). Add to that the phenomenon of twin systems..... this system is the first since June 1972 so a once in 30 year event (or more) is reasonably rare! Also bearing in mind the Monsoon trough by now (June) is supposed to be embedded well North (or on it's way there!) near the Bay of Bengal, with the SPCZ in a quieter phase. I would say that a Typhoon in Feb would be more comparable given the current synpotic set-up in the Southern Hemisphere (with the current cold outbreak). BTW active gulf line through here last night saw 3mm of rain, taking our monthly total up to just over 10mm. Very unusual here - rain was very hevay for a brief period as well. Darwin AP got nuthin as usual, but that's not surprising! Rgds Paul Mossman ----- Original Message ----- at : "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 5:27 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > Quoted at another list I am on: > "TC Keli reached 115kt on 12th June 1997 near 12S/178W" > I remember how amazed we all were on the cyclones list when Keli became > so powerful in the SH winter. > > Hurricane Gina in June is analogous to a Northern Hemisphere typhoon in > December and we get plenty of them around these parts. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > at : "Jane ONeill" > To: "Aussie-wx" > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:06:30 +1000 > Subject: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > Blair and others, > > > > Is 950hPa for a TC in our area during June a record or close to being > > one? > > > > Jane > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Coldest night so far! Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 18:52:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I recorded 3.5 degrees last night at Hornsby Heights. Damian 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Website upgrade, of sorts... Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 19:26:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I'm really sticking my neck out here. I don't know if anyone has ever done this but I have set up a weather crossword on my website (address below).
There's a clickable option on the main page.
It's pretty basic to look at but if you are a crossword (not cryptic!) buff I hope you will give it a go. Enhancements will hopefully follow.
You will need Java to run it; this can be downloaded at the Java website unless it came with your operating system in which case you may have to enable it.
I will put up a new one at time to time.
(Constructive comments welcome...I have never attempted anything like this!)
 
Keith Barnett
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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:07:32 +1000 at : Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fog This Morning... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Clyve, Thanks! I purchased a Canon 10D...so far have been very happy with it! It does quite well, and certainly matches (if not in many areas, exceeds) the quality of my film SLR! Even when printing out A4 sized photos. I've taken around 600-700 photos so far! But most of them have been experimenting. Yesterday morning was quite cold...had ice on my car! http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/Casper-Ice.jpg The minimum was 0.7C, but down the road it was -1C with a light covering of frost on the ground... http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/Frost.jpg Looking to be another cold one, currently 4.6C here but the minimum was actually 3.8C, the wind has picked up slightly here and hence the temperature has gone up slightly. AC Clyve Herbert wrote: > > Hi Supercell. A very nice picture of dew fog and a tree the sun sets it off. > What sort of camera is it, since I purchased my digi cam last June I have > taken almost 2000 shots! I am very happy with my Canon A40 the only fault I > can find with it is occasional focus problems at 3 times Zoom. Good luck > with your new camera . regards Clyve H. > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Anthony Cornelius" > To: "Aus-wx" > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 1:30 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Fog This Morning... > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > It's been a fun few days with storms! Too bad most of them were at > > night (which is fine, just that the lightning wasn't hugely frequent in > > the storms that I saw), so would have been better to enjoy them during > > the day! Oh well, can't be fussy when you get storms in June though!!! > > > > Had some nice fog this morning...was testing out my new digicam, of > > course fog isn't the most colourful thing in the world to photograph! > > But got a couple of wintery/desolate looking photos... > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/Fog2.jpg > > > > and... > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/SunTree.jpg > > > > Both very simple photos, but I liked them...portrayed a very > > wintery/late autumn scene... > > > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > 0417 759 304 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) 0417 759 304 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 09:29:51 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yeah, I know the setup is very different - I was referring to the equivalent time of the year. I didn't express myself very well at all. In my mind I was thinking of contrasting the rarity of SH winter systems with the frequency of them here. Maybe one could compare the frequency of winter tropical storms in SPAC with the Atlantic basin, but even that won't work, because the water is generally warmer much further North and they do actually run across considerably more winter storms than SPAC does. But then Atlantic gets very few if you compare with NWP. I suppose you can't really compare any two basins that closely because they are all different. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : Paul Mossman To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 17:41:48 +0930 Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > I'd have to disagree about that Phil. > > A TC in June comparable to a Typhoon in Dec up your way? No way... way > different set-ups. A Typhoon in Dec is not that rare an event in the > Northern Hempishere - bearing in mind that the equatorial trough is > still > hanging around as well as the monsoon trough (the Southern monsoon > starts > sometime around dec but there is always a good chance of a split > trough). > Add to that the phenomenon of twin systems..... this system is the > first > since June 1972 so a once in 30 year event (or more) is reasonably > rare! > > Also bearing in mind the Monsoon trough by now (June) is supposed to be > embedded well North (or on it's way there!) near the Bay of Bengal, > with the > SPCZ in a quieter phase. I would say that a Typhoon in Feb would be > more > comparable given the current synpotic set-up in the Southern Hemisphere > (with the current cold outbreak). > > BTW active gulf line through here last night saw 3mm of rain, taking > our > monthly total up to just over 10mm. Very unusual here - rain was very > hevay > for a brief period as well. Darwin AP got nuthin as usual, but that's > not > surprising! > > Rgds > Paul Mossman > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 5:27 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > Quoted at another list I am on: > > "TC Keli reached 115kt on 12th June 1997 near 12S/178W" > > I remember how amazed we all were on the cyclones list when Keli > became > > so powerful in the SH winter. > > > > Hurricane Gina in June is analogous to a Northern Hemisphere typhoon > in > > December and we get plenty of them around these parts. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > at : "Jane ONeill" > > To: "Aussie-wx" > > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:06:30 +1000 > > Subject: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > Blair and others, > > > > > > Is 950hPa for a TC in our area during June a record or close to > being > > > one? > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 11:09:50 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tropical bloom! X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good old Vic! Can still bung on a real fair dinkum winter. Here in Hong Kong I am just getting into my fifteenth consecutive summer with dripping wet humidity and no relief at the heat and rain. My fourteen winters here to date have been those occasions each year when the heat isn't quite so hot and the humidity doesn't drip quite so badly as it does the rest of the year. But we never get any of those beautiful, cold, wet, wintry days when the wind howls across those South Western plains, and you wear your long johns all day and come in out of the rain in the evening to sit in front of a beautiful, roaring log fire... I better not think any further about this or I might start swimming home! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : "Clyve Herbert" To: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:23:58 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tropical bloom! > Greetings Phil. Well winter is well under way here in Victoria, a cold > wave > expected on Friday should see the snow line get close to 600m Friday > night. > There is a rather large southern Ocean low in the Bight with a good > field of > polar air behind it. The BOM Melb has issued a gale warning for > Victoria > with gusts possible to 100kph especially in the more exposed coastal > and > mountain areas. regards Clyve H. > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:59 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tropical bloom! > > > > Yes Clyve. > > It is indeed unusual to be tracking TWO tropical systems in the > Southern > > Hemisphere in June. See the links at > > http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for details. The one in the > Coral > > Sea is being warned on by BoM Qld and the Tropical Cyclone west of > Fiji > > is numbered 29P by JTWC and 17F by FMS. > > Did the SH decide to forgo having a winter this year? > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > at : "Clyve Herbert" > > To: "aussie weather" > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 15:21:40 +1000 > > Subject: aus-wx: Tropical bloom! > > > > > Hi all tropos. A rather large and unusual tropical convective area > > > moving > > > southwest into the north east Coral sea and showing some weak upper > > > divergence seems to be developing at the north end of an upper long > > > wave. > > > regards Clyve H > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 13:20:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Phil. There are possibly a number of reasons TC activity is rare over the southwest Pacific, but two that come to mind is the position of the 300hpa baric ridge which usually sits well to the north with upper westerlie shear south of 5 or 10sth, also sea temps are normally very marginal south of 15sth and mostly below 26 south of 20sth. On this occasion there seems to have been a helping hand with the position of the northern tip of a long wave extending at east of NZ, this setup had good divergence fields south of the tropical disturbance in the early stages, also the upper high was further south and provided good upper surport. Other factors were the so called MJ wave and the presence of warmer water, I believe water temps in the area were about 28+c. Another feature was a miror development in the NH typical of the MJ affect. It would be interesting to do a history of the out of season activity of the SPCZ it may show up more tropical activity than we would expect.....regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:29 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > Yeah, I know the setup is very different - I was referring to the > equivalent time of the year. I didn't express myself very well at all. > In my mind I was thinking of contrasting the rarity of SH winter systems > with the frequency of them here. > Maybe one could compare the frequency of winter tropical storms in SPAC > with the Atlantic basin, but even that won't work, because the water is > generally warmer much further North and they do actually run across > considerably more winter storms than SPAC does. > But then Atlantic gets very few if you compare with NWP. > I suppose you can't really compare any two basins that closely because > they are all different. > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > at : Paul Mossman > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 17:41:48 +0930 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > I'd have to disagree about that Phil. > > > > A TC in June comparable to a Typhoon in Dec up your way? No way... way > > different set-ups. A Typhoon in Dec is not that rare an event in the > > Northern Hempishere - bearing in mind that the equatorial trough is > > still > > hanging around as well as the monsoon trough (the Southern monsoon > > starts > > sometime around dec but there is always a good chance of a split > > trough). > > Add to that the phenomenon of twin systems..... this system is the > > first > > since June 1972 so a once in 30 year event (or more) is reasonably > > rare! > > > > Also bearing in mind the Monsoon trough by now (June) is supposed to be > > embedded well North (or on it's way there!) near the Bay of Bengal, > > with the > > SPCZ in a quieter phase. I would say that a Typhoon in Feb would be > > more > > comparable given the current synpotic set-up in the Southern Hemisphere > > (with the current cold outbreak). > > > > BTW active gulf line through here last night saw 3mm of rain, taking > > our > > monthly total up to just over 10mm. Very unusual here - rain was very > > hevay > > for a brief period as well. Darwin AP got nuthin as usual, but that's > > not > > surprising! > > > > Rgds > > Paul Mossman > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > at : "Phil Smith" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 5:27 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > Quoted at another list I am on: > > > "TC Keli reached 115kt on 12th June 1997 near 12S/178W" > > > I remember how amazed we all were on the cyclones list when Keli > > became > > > so powerful in the SH winter. > > > > > > Hurricane Gina in June is analogous to a Northern Hemisphere typhoon > > in > > > December and we get plenty of them around these parts. > > > > > > Phil > > > <>< > > > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > at : "Jane ONeill" > > > To: "Aussie-wx" > > > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:06:30 +1000 > > > Subject: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > Blair and others, > > > > > > > > Is 950hPa for a TC in our area during June a record or close to > > being > > > > one? > > > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > + > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > of > > > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > > - > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 15:25:58 +0930 at : Paul Mossman Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Actually Clyve it was an Equatorial Rossby wave that assisted in TC Gina's formaton. Rgds Paul Mossman at : "Clyve Herbert" To: Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:50 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > Hi Phil. There are possibly a number of reasons TC activity is rare over the > southwest Pacific, but two that come to mind is the position of the 300hpa > baric ridge which usually sits well to the north with upper westerlie shear > south of 5 or 10sth, also sea temps are normally very marginal south of > 15sth and mostly below 26 south of 20sth. On this occasion there seems to > have been a helping hand with the position of the northern tip of a long > wave extending at east of NZ, this setup had good divergence fields south > of the tropical disturbance in the early stages, also the upper high was > further south and provided good upper surport. Other factors were the so > called MJ wave and the presence of warmer water, I believe water temps in > the area were about 28+c. Another feature was a miror development in the NH > typical of the MJ affect. It would be interesting to do a history of the out > of season activity of the SPCZ it may show up more tropical activity than we > would expect.....regards Clyve H. > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:29 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > Yeah, I know the setup is very different - I was referring to the > > equivalent time of the year. I didn't express myself very well at all. > > In my mind I was thinking of contrasting the rarity of SH winter systems > > with the frequency of them here. > > Maybe one could compare the frequency of winter tropical storms in SPAC > > with the Atlantic basin, but even that won't work, because the water is > > generally warmer much further North and they do actually run across > > considerably more winter storms than SPAC does. > > But then Atlantic gets very few if you compare with NWP. > > I suppose you can't really compare any two basins that closely because > > they are all different. > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > at : Paul Mossman > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 17:41:48 +0930 > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > I'd have to disagree about that Phil. > > > > > > A TC in June comparable to a Typhoon in Dec up your way? No way... way > > > different set-ups. A Typhoon in Dec is not that rare an event in the > > > Northern Hempishere - bearing in mind that the equatorial trough is > > > still > > > hanging around as well as the monsoon trough (the Southern monsoon > > > starts > > > sometime around dec but there is always a good chance of a split > > > trough). > > > Add to that the phenomenon of twin systems..... this system is the > > > first > > > since June 1972 so a once in 30 year event (or more) is reasonably > > > rare! > > > > > > Also bearing in mind the Monsoon trough by now (June) is supposed to be > > > embedded well North (or on it's way there!) near the Bay of Bengal, > > > with the > > > SPCZ in a quieter phase. I would say that a Typhoon in Feb would be > > > more > > > comparable given the current synpotic set-up in the Southern Hemisphere > > > (with the current cold outbreak). > > > > > > BTW active gulf line through here last night saw 3mm of rain, taking > > > our > > > monthly total up to just over 10mm. Very unusual here - rain was very > > > hevay > > > for a brief period as well. Darwin AP got nuthin as usual, but that's > > > not > > > surprising! > > > > > > Rgds > > > Paul Mossman > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > at : "Phil Smith" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 5:27 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > > > > Quoted at another list I am on: > > > > "TC Keli reached 115kt on 12th June 1997 near 12S/178W" > > > > I remember how amazed we all were on the cyclones list when Keli > > > became > > > > so powerful in the SH winter. > > > > > > > > Hurricane Gina in June is analogous to a Northern Hemisphere typhoon > > > in > > > > December and we get plenty of them around these parts. > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > <>< > > > > > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > at : "Jane ONeill" > > > > To: "Aussie-wx" > > > > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:06:30 +1000 > > > > Subject: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > > > Blair and others, > > > > > > > > > > Is 950hPa for a TC in our area during June a record or close to > > > being > > > > > one? > > > > > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > > > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > > > > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > > + > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > > of > > > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:01:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Paul, What's the difference between a Rossby wave and a Madden Julian wave? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- at : "Paul Mossman" To: Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:55 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > Actually Clyve it was an Equatorial Rossby wave that assisted in TC Gina's > formaton. > > Rgds > Paul Mossman > > > at : "Clyve Herbert" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > Hi Phil. There are possibly a number of reasons TC activity is rare over > the > > southwest Pacific, but two that come to mind is the position of the 300hpa > > baric ridge which usually sits well to the north with upper westerlie > shear > > south of 5 or 10sth, also sea temps are normally very marginal south of > > 15sth and mostly below 26 south of 20sth. On this occasion there seems to > > have been a helping hand with the position of the northern tip of a long > > wave extending at east of NZ, this setup had good divergence fields > south > > of the tropical disturbance in the early stages, also the upper high was > > further south and provided good upper surport. Other factors were the so > > called MJ wave and the presence of warmer water, I believe water temps in > > the area were about 28+c. Another feature was a miror development in the > NH > > typical of the MJ affect. It would be interesting to do a history of the > out > > of season activity of the SPCZ it may show up more tropical activity than > we > > would expect.....regards Clyve H. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > at : "Phil Smith" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:29 AM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > Yeah, I know the setup is very different - I was referring to the > > > equivalent time of the year. I didn't express myself very well at all. > > > In my mind I was thinking of contrasting the rarity of SH winter systems > > > with the frequency of them here. > > > Maybe one could compare the frequency of winter tropical storms in SPAC > > > with the Atlantic basin, but even that won't work, because the water is > > > generally warmer much further North and they do actually run across > > > considerably more winter storms than SPAC does. > > > But then Atlantic gets very few if you compare with NWP. > > > I suppose you can't really compare any two basins that closely because > > > they are all different. > > > Phil > > > <>< > > > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > at : Paul Mossman > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 17:41:48 +0930 > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > I'd have to disagree about that Phil. > > > > > > > > A TC in June comparable to a Typhoon in Dec up your way? No way... way > > > > different set-ups. A Typhoon in Dec is not that rare an event in the > > > > Northern Hempishere - bearing in mind that the equatorial trough is > > > > still > > > > hanging around as well as the monsoon trough (the Southern monsoon > > > > starts > > > > sometime around dec but there is always a good chance of a split > > > > trough). > > > > Add to that the phenomenon of twin systems..... this system is the > > > > first > > > > since June 1972 so a once in 30 year event (or more) is reasonably > > > > rare! > > > > > > > > Also bearing in mind the Monsoon trough by now (June) is supposed to > be > > > > embedded well North (or on it's way there!) near the Bay of Bengal, > > > > with the > > > > SPCZ in a quieter phase. I would say that a Typhoon in Feb would be > > > > more > > > > comparable given the current synpotic set-up in the Southern > Hemisphere > > > > (with the current cold outbreak). > > > > > > > > BTW active gulf line through here last night saw 3mm of rain, taking > > > > our > > > > monthly total up to just over 10mm. Very unusual here - rain was very > > > > hevay > > > > for a brief period as well. Darwin AP got nuthin as usual, but that's > > > > not > > > > surprising! > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > > Paul Mossman > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > at : "Phil Smith" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 5:27 PM > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quoted at another list I am on: > > > > > "TC Keli reached 115kt on 12th June 1997 near 12S/178W" > > > > > I remember how amazed we all were on the cyclones list when Keli > > > > became > > > > > so powerful in the SH winter. > > > > > > > > > > Hurricane Gina in June is analogous to a Northern Hemisphere typhoon > > > > in > > > > > December and we get plenty of them around these parts. > > > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > <>< > > > > > > > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > > > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > > > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > > > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > at : "Jane ONeill" > > > > > To: "Aussie-wx" > > > > > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:06:30 +1000 > > > > > Subject: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > > > > > Blair and others, > > > > > > > > > > > > Is 950hPa for a TC in our area during June a record or close to > > > > being > > > > > > one? > > > > > > > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > > > > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > > > + > > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > > > of > > > > > > your > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > + > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- -- > > > > - > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fog This Morning... Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 18:02:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/Frost.jpg You need to weed your lawn :-) Has turned rather cool here of late too. Was point 7 here this morning. The coldest (so far) this year but it will get a lot colder yet :-) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 18:35:18 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane, Rossby waves travel east - west while the Madden-Julian Oscilation (MJO) travels west - east. Both are atmospheric wave disturbances that effect Tropical areas. My understanding is that Rossby waves are generated by wind boundaries in the Eastern Pacific and are propogated along those boundaries (similar to cold fronts I believe...) whereas MJO's are pressure waves that derive at the African continent and spread eastwards. Both vary in intensity and affect Tropical weather at 12 N to 12 S roughly. If you require a further detailed explanation, I can provide one (at cost of course ;)) Rgds, Paul Mossman ----- Original Message ----- at : "Jane ONeill" To: Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:31 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > Paul, > > What's the difference between a Rossby wave and a Madden Julian wave? > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Paul Mossman" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > Actually Clyve it was an Equatorial Rossby wave that assisted in TC > Gina's > > formaton. > > > > Rgds > > Paul Mossman > > > > > > at : "Clyve Herbert" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:50 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > Hi Phil. There are possibly a number of reasons TC activity is rare > over > > the > > > southwest Pacific, but two that come to mind is the position of the > 300hpa > > > baric ridge which usually sits well to the north with upper > westerlie > > shear > > > south of 5 or 10sth, also sea temps are normally very marginal south > of > > > 15sth and mostly below 26 south of 20sth. On this occasion there > seems to > > > have been a helping hand with the position of the northern tip of a > long > > > wave extending at east of NZ, this setup had good divergence > fields > > south > > > of the tropical disturbance in the early stages, also the upper high > was > > > further south and provided good upper surport. Other factors were > the so > > > called MJ wave and the presence of warmer water, I believe water > temps in > > > the area were about 28+c. Another feature was a miror development in > the > > NH > > > typical of the MJ affect. It would be interesting to do a history of > the > > out > > > of season activity of the SPCZ it may show up more tropical activity > than > > we > > > would expect.....regards Clyve H. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > at : "Phil Smith" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:29 AM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I know the setup is very different - I was referring to the > > > > equivalent time of the year. I didn't express myself very well at > all. > > > > In my mind I was thinking of contrasting the rarity of SH winter > systems > > > > with the frequency of them here. > > > > Maybe one could compare the frequency of winter tropical storms in > SPAC > > > > with the Atlantic basin, but even that won't work, because the > water is > > > > generally warmer much further North and they do actually run > across > > > > considerably more winter storms than SPAC does. > > > > But then Atlantic gets very few if you compare with NWP. > > > > I suppose you can't really compare any two basins that closely > because > > > > they are all different. > > > > Phil > > > > <>< > > > > > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > at : Paul Mossman > > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 17:41:48 +0930 > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > > > I'd have to disagree about that Phil. > > > > > > > > > > A TC in June comparable to a Typhoon in Dec up your way? No > way... way > > > > > different set-ups. A Typhoon in Dec is not that rare an event in > the > > > > > Northern Hempishere - bearing in mind that the equatorial trough > is > > > > > still > > > > > hanging around as well as the monsoon trough (the Southern > monsoon > > > > > starts > > > > > sometime around dec but there is always a good chance of a split > > > > > trough). > > > > > Add to that the phenomenon of twin systems..... this system is > the > > > > > first > > > > > since June 1972 so a once in 30 year event (or more) is > reasonably > > > > > rare! > > > > > > > > > > Also bearing in mind the Monsoon trough by now (June) is > supposed to > > be > > > > > embedded well North (or on it's way there!) near the Bay of > Bengal, > > > > > with the > > > > > SPCZ in a quieter phase. I would say that a Typhoon in Feb would > be > > > > > more > > > > > comparable given the current synpotic set-up in the Southern > > Hemisphere > > > > > (with the current cold outbreak). > > > > > > > > > > BTW active gulf line through here last night saw 3mm of rain, > taking > > > > > our > > > > > monthly total up to just over 10mm. Very unusual here - rain was > very > > > > > hevay > > > > > for a brief period as well. Darwin AP got nuthin as usual, but > that's > > > > > not > > > > > surprising! > > > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > > > Paul Mossman > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > at : "Phil Smith" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 5:27 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quoted at another list I am on: > > > > > > "TC Keli reached 115kt on 12th June 1997 near 12S/178W" > > > > > > I remember how amazed we all were on the cyclones list when > Keli > > > > > became > > > > > > so powerful in the SH winter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hurricane Gina in June is analogous to a Northern Hemisphere > typhoon > > > > > in > > > > > > December and we get plenty of them around these parts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > <>< > > > > > > > > > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > > > > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > > > > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > > > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > > > > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > > > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > at : "Jane ONeill" > > > > > > To: "Aussie-wx" > > > > > > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:06:30 +1000 > > > > > > Subject: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blair and others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is 950hPa for a TC in our area during June a record or close > to > > > > > being > > > > > > > one? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > > > > > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > > > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > > > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body > > > > > of > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of > > > > > your > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > > + > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of > > > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- > -- > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 19:35:54 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul. Thank you for your opinion...however you may note that I indicated TC GINA formed at the top of a long wave,another word for a long wave is a Rossby wave, however I prefer to use long wave as it was not just Rossby that discovered them. Incidently Rossby waves are found in both the northern and southern Hemi between 40 and 60 degrees, usually there are between 3 and 6 of them operating at any time ....its their upper air surport that extends to the tropics and beyond and I believe they have a great influence on the tropical weather systems. On a close look at the pre setup to TC Gina there seems to have been a surge at the northeast which may have began its journey at the NH, 'cross equitorial' prior to its development. I am still looking for a westward moving positive convective area prior to the formation of TC Gina and cant find it 'yet'. However being in Darwin you may have noticed rare convective activity in your area last week this positive area moved eastward and marked the top of the 'long wave' that eventually moved into the Coral Sea....... Oh by the way this info wont cost anything. regards Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Paul Mossman" To: Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > Hi Jane, > > Rossby waves travel east - west while the Madden-Julian Oscilation (MJO) > travels west - east. > > Both are atmospheric wave disturbances that effect Tropical areas. > > My understanding is that Rossby waves are generated by wind boundaries in > the Eastern Pacific and are propogated along those boundaries (similar to > cold fronts I believe...) whereas MJO's are pressure waves that derive at > the African continent and spread eastwards. > > Both vary in intensity and affect Tropical weather at 12 N to 12 S > roughly. If you require a further detailed explanation, I can provide one > (at cost of course ;)) > > Rgds, > Paul Mossman > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Jane ONeill" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > Paul, > > > > What's the difference between a Rossby wave and a Madden Julian wave? > > > > Jane > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > at : "Paul Mossman" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:55 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > Actually Clyve it was an Equatorial Rossby wave that assisted in TC > > Gina's > > > formaton. > > > > > > Rgds > > > Paul Mossman > > > > > > > > > at : "Clyve Herbert" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:50 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > > > > Hi Phil. There are possibly a number of reasons TC activity is rare > > over > > > the > > > > southwest Pacific, but two that come to mind is the position of the > > 300hpa > > > > baric ridge which usually sits well to the north with upper > > westerlie > > > shear > > > > south of 5 or 10sth, also sea temps are normally very marginal south > > of > > > > 15sth and mostly below 26 south of 20sth. On this occasion there > > seems to > > > > have been a helping hand with the position of the northern tip of a > > long > > > > wave extending at east of NZ, this setup had good divergence > > fields > > > south > > > > of the tropical disturbance in the early stages, also the upper high > > was > > > > further south and provided good upper surport. Other factors were > > the so > > > > called MJ wave and the presence of warmer water, I believe water > > temps in > > > > the area were about 28+c. Another feature was a miror development in > > the > > > NH > > > > typical of the MJ affect. It would be interesting to do a history of > > the > > > out > > > > of season activity of the SPCZ it may show up more tropical activity > > than > > > we > > > > would expect.....regards Clyve H. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > at : "Phil Smith" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:29 AM > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I know the setup is very different - I was referring to the > > > > > equivalent time of the year. I didn't express myself very well at > > all. > > > > > In my mind I was thinking of contrasting the rarity of SH winter > > systems > > > > > with the frequency of them here. > > > > > Maybe one could compare the frequency of winter tropical storms in > > SPAC > > > > > with the Atlantic basin, but even that won't work, because the > > water is > > > > > generally warmer much further North and they do actually run > > across > > > > > considerably more winter storms than SPAC does. > > > > > But then Atlantic gets very few if you compare with NWP. > > > > > I suppose you can't really compare any two basins that closely > > because > > > > > they are all different. > > > > > Phil > > > > > <>< > > > > > > > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > > > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > > > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > > > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > at : Paul Mossman > > > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > > > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 17:41:48 +0930 > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > > > > > I'd have to disagree about that Phil. > > > > > > > > > > > > A TC in June comparable to a Typhoon in Dec up your way? No > > way... way > > > > > > different set-ups. A Typhoon in Dec is not that rare an event in > > the > > > > > > Northern Hempishere - bearing in mind that the equatorial trough > > is > > > > > > still > > > > > > hanging around as well as the monsoon trough (the Southern > > monsoon > > > > > > starts > > > > > > sometime around dec but there is always a good chance of a split > > > > > > trough). > > > > > > Add to that the phenomenon of twin systems..... this system is > > the > > > > > > first > > > > > > since June 1972 so a once in 30 year event (or more) is > > reasonably > > > > > > rare! > > > > > > > > > > > > Also bearing in mind the Monsoon trough by now (June) is > > supposed to > > > be > > > > > > embedded well North (or on it's way there!) near the Bay of > > Bengal, > > > > > > with the > > > > > > SPCZ in a quieter phase. I would say that a Typhoon in Feb would > > be > > > > > > more > > > > > > comparable given the current synpotic set-up in the Southern > > > Hemisphere > > > > > > (with the current cold outbreak). > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW active gulf line through here last night saw 3mm of rain, > > taking > > > > > > our > > > > > > monthly total up to just over 10mm. Very unusual here - rain was > > very > > > > > > hevay > > > > > > for a brief period as well. Darwin AP got nuthin as usual, but > > that's > > > > > > not > > > > > > surprising! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > > > > Paul Mossman > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > at : "Phil Smith" > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 5:27 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quoted at another list I am on: > > > > > > > "TC Keli reached 115kt on 12th June 1997 near 12S/178W" > > > > > > > I remember how amazed we all were on the cyclones list when > > Keli > > > > > > became > > > > > > > so powerful in the SH winter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hurricane Gina in June is analogous to a Northern Hemisphere > > typhoon > > > > > > in > > > > > > > December and we get plenty of them around these parts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > <>< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > > > > > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > > > > > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > > > > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > > > > > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > > > > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > at : "Jane ONeill" > > > > > > > To: "Aussie-wx" > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:06:30 +1000 > > > > > > > Subject: aus-wx: TC Gina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blair and others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is 950hPa for a TC in our area during June a record or close > > to > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > one? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > > > > > > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > > > > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > > > > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > > body > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > > body of > > > > > > your > > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > > > + > > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > > body of > > > > > > your > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- > > -- > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > -- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Oberon Visit Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 20:42:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This weekend will be a perfect time to stay at Oberon, with the coming cold front. Can anyone recommend a good high place to stay that will allow my smallish dog to stay aswell? Damian 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Oberon Visit Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 20:54:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Damian, You have a couple good places to stay.. the Big Trout Motel, or the Titania. Big trout have rooms $80 single.. Not sure about having dogs there though. http://www.bluemts.com.au/bigtrout/motel.htm This event on sat/sun is certainly looking good each min.. Keep an eye on my webpage for updates on roads. RTA have also put up a new electronic sign advising of the temp of road surface between Lithgow and Bathurst. Travel safe everyone if driving to Bathurst/Oberon this weekend. Dave http://www.hotkey.net.au/~davidkc/snowreports.html Bathurst Snow Reports. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Damian" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:42 PM Subject: aus-wx: Oberon Visit This weekend will be a perfect time to stay at Oberon, with the coming cold front. Can anyone recommend a good high place to stay that will allow my smallish dog to stay aswell? Damian 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Rhett Blanch" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Some photos - frost sunset in Tamworth Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 23:09:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Spent the weekend in Tamworth where it was pretty cool but mostly sunny. Saturday afternoon was marked by a very cold change and isolated light showers which produced a spectacular sunset, the photos of which are at the link below: http://wilgatree.com/gallery/030610_tamworth_sunset.htm Sunday morning got down to -2 with a big frost. The frost didn't photograph very well but down by the Peel River it was quite nice, with a light mist rising off the water. http://wilgatree.com/gallery/030611_frosty_peel.htm Also at the weekend, train carriages marooned in Tamworth because of the drought. There must have been about 150+ carriages parked along a 3km section of the old Tamworth-Manilla line. Have never seen this happen before. http://wilgatree.com/gallery/0306_silo_and_train.htm Regards, Rhett +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Max" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Some photos - frost sunset in Tamworth Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 23:18:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Rhett, They've also done the same thing on the disused part of the line between Sandy Hollow and Merriwa. Max ----- Original Message ----- at : "Rhett Blanch" To: "Aussie-Weather" Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:09 PM Subject: aus-wx: Some photos - frost sunset in Tamworth > Hi all, > Spent the weekend in Tamworth where it was pretty cool but mostly sunny. > > Saturday afternoon was marked by a very cold change and isolated light > showers which produced a spectacular sunset, the photos of which are at the > link below: > http://wilgatree.com/gallery/030610_tamworth_sunset.htm > > Sunday morning got down to -2 with a big frost. The frost didn't photograph > very well but down by the Peel River it was quite nice, with a light mist > rising off the water. > http://wilgatree.com/gallery/030611_frosty_peel.htm > > Also at the weekend, train carriages marooned in Tamworth because of the > drought. There must have been about 150+ carriages parked along a 3km > section of the old Tamworth-Manilla line. Have never seen this happen > before. > http://wilgatree.com/gallery/0306_silo_and_train.htm > > Regards, > Rhett > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Some photos - frost sunset in Tamworth Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:02:38 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey All, They also did a similar thing in Victoria last year, Freight Australia storing wagons all over the state that weren't needed, 19 VHNY wagons here in Murtoa alone. I also remember a similar thing happening on the Ararat-Beaufort line after it had closed, where V/Line at the time stored a heap of louvered vans out on the line, stretching for about 4kms! PaulY -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Max Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:18 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Some photos - frost sunset in Tamworth Hi Rhett, They've also done the same thing on the disused part of the line between Sandy Hollow and Merriwa. Max ----- Original Message ----- at : "Rhett Blanch" To: "Aussie-Weather" Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:09 PM Subject: aus-wx: Some photos - frost sunset in Tamworth > Hi all, > Spent the weekend in Tamworth where it was pretty cool but mostly sunny. > > Saturday afternoon was marked by a very cold change and isolated light > showers which produced a spectacular sunset, the photos of which are at the > link below: > http://wilgatree.com/gallery/030610_tamworth_sunset.htm > > Sunday morning got down to -2 with a big frost. The frost didn't photograph > very well but down by the Peel River it was quite nice, with a light mist > rising off the water. > http://wilgatree.com/gallery/030611_frosty_peel.htm > > Also at the weekend, train carriages marooned in Tamworth because of the > drought. There must have been about 150+ carriages parked along a 3km > section of the old Tamworth-Manilla line. Have never seen this happen > before. > http://wilgatree.com/gallery/0306_silo_and_train.htm > > Regards, > Rhett > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.138.240.207] X-Originating-Email: [mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] at : "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Blair on ABC 666 Canberra re Drought Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 07:33:22 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2003 21:33:23.0790 (UTC) FILETIME=[EBB9DEE0:01C32F97] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blair and list members, I heard your interview on 666 Canberra yesterday morning.The continuing drought pattern is of concern to us here in Canberra.Well done Blair! Gavin SSWW Canberra _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Tuan Phan" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: BoM website in demand Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:04:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I went to check the stats for 6/6 before the long weekend. Unfortunately, the radar info hasn't updated yet. Surprisingly, the main BoM site only managed to get 2.67 million hits for the day (a far cry at the record ~5M). I was expecting >3.5M. It may get busy again this weekend with this interesting system sweeping across SE Aus. tuan +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Peter Konnecke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Oberon Visit Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 20:59:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, I was in Oberon last weekend (hoping for some white stuff). Have just booked into the Big Trout for this Saturday night, with hope for some snow this week. If theres no snow ... I can't think of a nicer town so close to Sydney for a weekend away. I have a new mobile (Sony P-800) which lets me take pics and e-mail them so I'm hoping for a live event to report on back to the list. David you should get a spotters fee for the motel :-) Regards to all, Pete ----- Original Message ----- at : "David Carroll" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:54 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Oberon Visit > Hi Damian, > > You have a couple good places to stay.. the Big Trout Motel, or the > Titania. > > Big trout have rooms $80 single.. Not sure about having dogs there though. > http://www.bluemts.com.au/bigtrout/motel.htm > > This event on sat/sun is certainly looking good each min.. > > Keep an eye on my webpage for updates on roads. RTA have also put up a new > electronic sign advising of the temp of road surface between Lithgow and > Bathurst. > > Travel safe everyone if driving to Bathurst/Oberon this weekend. > > Dave > http://www.hotkey.net.au/~davidkc/snowreports.html > Bathurst Snow Reports. > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Damian" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:42 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Oberon Visit > > > This weekend will be a perfect time to stay at Oberon, with the coming cold > front. > Can anyone recommend a good high place to stay that will allow my smallish > dog to stay aswell? > > > Damian > 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Peter Konnecke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Oberon Visit Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 21:06:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Of course I didnt mean i'd be posting pictures directly to this list ... oops. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Peter Konnecke" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:59 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Oberon Visit > Hi, > > I was in Oberon last weekend (hoping for some white stuff). > > Have just booked into the Big Trout for this Saturday night, > with hope for some snow this week. If theres no snow ... > I can't think of a nicer town so close to Sydney for a weekend > away. > > I have a new mobile (Sony P-800) which lets me take pics and > e-mail them so I'm hoping for a live event to report on back to the list. > > David you should get a spotters fee for the motel :-) > > Regards to all, > Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "David Carroll" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Oberon Visit > > > > Hi Damian, > > > > You have a couple good places to stay.. the Big Trout Motel, or the > > Titania. > > > > Big trout have rooms $80 single.. Not sure about having dogs there though. > > http://www.bluemts.com.au/bigtrout/motel.htm > > > > This event on sat/sun is certainly looking good each min.. > > > > Keep an eye on my webpage for updates on roads. RTA have also put up a > new > > electronic sign advising of the temp of road surface between Lithgow and > > Bathurst. > > > > Travel safe everyone if driving to Bathurst/Oberon this weekend. > > > > Dave > > http://www.hotkey.net.au/~davidkc/snowreports.html > > Bathurst Snow Reports. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > at : "Damian" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:42 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Oberon Visit > > > > > > This weekend will be a perfect time to stay at Oberon, with the coming > cold > > front. > > Can anyone recommend a good high place to stay that will allow my smallish > > dog to stay aswell? > > > > > > Damian > > 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: penfold.hotkey.net.au: apache set sender to davidkc at hotkey.net.au using -f Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 21:43:44 +1000 at : davidkc at hotkey.net.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Oberon Visit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 203.76.17.22 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI Peter, Who knows how many more people may just book there as well.. By the looks of the photos on the webpage, looks like a nice place.. Im staying there on the 25th July for a bday party, wonder if its going to snow that weekend?? Anyone have any ideas that far out..!!! Dave Quoting Peter Konnecke : > Hi, > > I was in Oberon last weekend (hoping for some white stuff). > > Have just booked into the Big Trout for this Saturday night, > with hope for some snow this week. If theres no snow ... > I can't think of a nicer town so close to Sydney for a weekend > away. > > I have a new mobile (Sony P-800) which lets me take pics and > e-mail them so I'm hoping for a live event to report on back to the list. > > David you should get a spotters fee for the motel :-) > > Regards to all, > Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "David Carroll" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Oberon Visit > > > > Hi Damian, > > > > You have a couple good places to stay.. the Big Trout Motel, or the > > Titania. > > > > Big trout have rooms $80 single.. Not sure about having dogs there > though. > > http://www.bluemts.com.au/bigtrout/motel.htm > > > > This event on sat/sun is certainly looking good each min.. > > > > Keep an eye on my webpage for updates on roads. RTA have also put up a > new > > electronic sign advising of the temp of road surface between Lithgow and > > Bathurst. > > > > Travel safe everyone if driving to Bathurst/Oberon this weekend. > > > > Dave > > http://www.hotkey.net.au/~davidkc/snowreports.html > > Bathurst Snow Reports. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > at : "Damian" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:42 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Oberon Visit > > > > > > This weekend will be a perfect time to stay at Oberon, with the coming > cold > > front. > > Can anyone recommend a good high place to stay that will allow my > smallish > > dog to stay aswell? > > > > > > Damian > > 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Simon Fearby" To: Subject: aus-wx: Live 24/7 Webcam of the Tamworth CBD and Skyline facing SW (60 second delay) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 01:54:16 +1000 Organization: Fearby.com Software X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: High Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Live 24/7 Webcam of the Tamworth CBD and Skyline facing SW (60 second delay)

Hello

I now have a live 24/7 Webcam of the Tamworth CBD and Skyline facing SW (60 second delay)

The webcam can be viewed by going to http://simon.fearby.com/webcam.shtml

This cam is in a great spot to watch the storms roll in next summer.  Winter should provide clear views at the SW (Quirindi) to the W (Gunnedah) once the leaves fall off the trees.

Enjoy

Simon Fearby
ICQ: 6646135

at : Peter May To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: BOM Weather warnings Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 02:56:17 +1000 Sensitivity: Company-Confidential X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. I am trying to find out if I can get weather warnings etc for my local area of coastal waters at the BOM and if they charge etc. What section do I contact at the BOM? Their site is rather intensive to find stuff. I run an experimenal weather/sms system here for local fishermen etc and would like to get the warnings to re-send with permsion of course... Regards, Peter ************************************* Check the weather at www.beach-bum-solutions.com/weather/weather.htm Beach Bum Solutions Mystery Bay NSW Aus ************************************ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Falling upper temps Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 06:01:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, Interesting to note that the SA aviation forecast has the 500hPa temperature (18500') dropping at -21C to -27C!! across the trough/front today (in the southern part of the state) while in Victoria they have the change being at -21C to -25C (freezing level falls at ~9000' to ~5000'). This should start to stir things up!! Have a nice weather day... Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: BOM Weather warnings Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 06:10:48 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Peter, I suggest you start here http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/warnings.shtml As you'll notice at the top of that page the BoM is already trial testing a SMS message service in certain areas. :) Regs, Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- at : "Peter May" To: Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:26 AM Subject: aus-wx: BOM Weather warnings > Hi all. > > > I am trying to find out if I can get weather warnings etc for my local area > of coastal waters at the BOM and if they charge etc. What section do I > contact at the BOM? Their site is rather intensive to find stuff. > > > I run an experimenal weather/sms system here for local fishermen etc and > would like to get the warnings to re-send with permsion of course... > > > Regards, Peter > > > > > ************************************* > Check the weather at > www.beach-bum-solutions.com/weather/weather.htm > Beach Bum Solutions > Mystery Bay NSW Aus > ************************************ > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "James Holbeach" To: Subject: aus-wx: Predicting Weather by Guessing Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:00:45 +1000 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Resubscribed for just one purpose . . . .

 

Let’s see how accurate my system is LOL

 

******* at Email Dated Sat 22nd Feb 2003 *************

The rain has been great, but not enough. Fingers crossed it will continue!

 

James' Prediction:

* Most states will see rain 12-15th June

 

LOL

 

I promise I'll tell everyone whether I'm right, OR I’m WRONG.

*****************************************

 

James

 

James Holbeach

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Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

Ph: (M) +61 (0)417 553 757

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at : "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Predicting Weather by Guessing Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:08:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
James & list
 
I dare say there is a very good chance of snow, otherwise called rain..  System looking better and better now. Setting up nicely by tomorrow night.. By Saturday shall be bucketing down..!!  Im staying positive now..
 
Dave
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:00 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Predicting Weather by Guessing

Resubscribed for just one purpose . . . .

 

Let’s see how accurate my system is LOL

 

******* at Email Dated Sat 22nd Feb 2003 *************

The rain has been great, but not enough. Fingers crossed it will continue!

 

James' Prediction:

* Most states will see rain 12-15th June

 

LOL

 

I promise I'll tell everyone whether I'm right, OR I’m WRONG.

*****************************************

 

James

 

James Holbeach

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Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

Ph: (M) +61 (0)417 553 757

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X-Sender: hdewit at mail.sa.bom.gov.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:32:12 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com, Peter May at : Hank de Wit Subject: Re: aus-wx: BOM Weather warnings Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Peter, Send an email request to pubmarine.nsw at bom.gov.au. If you are running a service in which you onforward the warnings to fishermen the BoM is likely to look favorably on you and provide the warnings for free. The warnings can be emailed or faxed to you. In SA we provide our coastal warnings free of charge to our voluntary coast guard radio operators for the same reason. Cheers Hank At 02:56 AM 12/06/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi all. > > >I am trying to find out if I can get weather warnings etc for my local area >of coastal waters at the BOM and if they charge etc. What section do I >contact at the BOM? Their site is rather intensive to find stuff. > > >I run an experimenal weather/sms system here for local fishermen etc and >would like to get the warnings to re-send with permsion of course... > >Regards, Peter > >************************************* >Check the weather at >www.beach-bum-solutions.com/weather/weather.htm >Beach Bum Solutions >Mystery Bay NSW Aus >************************************ >-- Hank de Wit Regional Computer Manager Bureau of Meteorology, SA ph: 08 8366 2674 Email: H.deWit at BoM.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : Peter May To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Software testing Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 19:37:09 +1000 Sensitivity: Company-Confidential X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. I am still playing with my weather software and have a favour to ask. If anyone can spare the time, could they send an SMS message to +61419626750 with the word TIDE in the message. It should send you back tidal predictions for my area. I simply want to see if we can break the system. It will have other data available soon for now it's the tides. Sorry for the post but hey it is a bit weather related? Regards, Peter ************************************* Check the weather at www.beach-bum-solutions.com/weather/weather.htm Beach Bum Solutions Mystery Bay NSW Aus ************************************ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "r.s.mullens" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Software testing Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 20:46:34 +1000 Organization: home X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Works well Ray:) ----- Original Message ----- at : "Peter May" To: Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:37 PM Subject: aus-wx: Software testing > Hi all. > > I am still playing with my weather software and have a favour to ask. > > If anyone can spare the time, could they send an SMS message to +61419626750 > > with the word > > TIDE > > in the message. > > > It should send you back tidal predictions for my area. I simply want to see > if we can break the system. It will have other data available soon for now > it's the tides. > > > Sorry for the post but hey it is a bit weather related? > > Regards, Peter > > > > > ************************************* > Check the weather at > www.beach-bum-solutions.com/weather/weather.htm > Beach Bum Solutions > Mystery Bay NSW Aus > ************************************ > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Bussy" To: Subject: aus-wx: Works with no worries Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 21:04:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Not being a coastal person I don't quite understand the Narooma tides etc. But yes it does work :-) ----- Original Message ----- at : "r.s.mullens" To: Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:46 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Software testing > Works well > Ray:) > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Peter May" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:37 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Software testing > > > > Hi all. > > > > I am still playing with my weather software and have a favour to ask. > > > > If anyone can spare the time, could they send an SMS message to > +61419626750 > > > > with the word > > > > TIDE > > > > in the message. > > > > > > It should send you back tidal predictions for my area. I simply want to > see > > if we can break the system. It will have other data available soon for now > > it's the tides. > > > > > > Sorry for the post but hey it is a bit weather related? > > > > Regards, Peter > > > > > > > > > > ************************************* > > Check the weather at > > www.beach-bum-solutions.com/weather/weather.htm > > Beach Bum Solutions > > Mystery Bay NSW Aus > > ************************************ > > > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "r.s.mullens" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Works with no worries Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 21:10:22 +1000 Organization: home X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com yes mate it seems to work fine send me one in the morning and see how it go's I'll check the tides I'll let you no the outcome. Ray:) ----- Original Message ----- at : "Bussy" To: Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: aus-wx: Works with no worries > Not being a coastal person I don't quite understand the Narooma tides etc. > But yes it does work :-) > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "r.s.mullens" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:46 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Software testing > > > > Works well > > Ray:) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > at : "Peter May" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:37 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Software testing > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > I am still playing with my weather software and have a favour to ask. > > > > > > If anyone can spare the time, could they send an SMS message to > > +61419626750 > > > > > > with the word > > > > > > TIDE > > > > > > in the message. > > > > > > > > > It should send you back tidal predictions for my area. I simply want to > > see > > > if we can break the system. It will have other data available soon for > now > > > it's the tides. > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the post but hey it is a bit weather related? > > > > > > Regards, Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************* > > > Check the weather at > > > www.beach-bum-solutions.com/weather/weather.htm > > > Beach Bum Solutions > > > Mystery Bay NSW Aus > > > ************************************ > > > > > > > > > -- > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Rhett Blanch" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Live 24/7 Webcam of the Tamworth CBD and Skyline facing SW (60 second delay) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 22:53:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well done Simon. I think this must be the first web cam in town. Mum and Dad live in Oxley Vale and I grew up a very similar view at our back door! I certainly enjoyed the colours of this afternoons sunset. Rhett -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Simon Fearby Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 1:54 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Live 24/7 Webcam of the Tamworth CBD and Skyline facing SW (60 second delay) Importance: High Hello I now have a live 24/7 Webcam of the Tamworth CBD and Skyline facing SW (60 second delay) The webcam can be viewed by going to http://simon.fearby.com/webcam.shtml This cam is in a great spot to watch the storms roll in next summer. Winter should provide clear views at the SW (Quirindi) to the W (Gunnedah) once the leaves fall off the trees. Enjoy Simon Fearby ICQ: 6646135 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: "aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: Cold Pool/Warm pool Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:18:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. You dont often see a tropical disturbance approaching QLD in June (warm pool). Although weakening appears this area of convection may cross the coast north of Cooktown overnigh. Meanwhile not a bad field of cold air moving over Tasmania and approaching Victoria, snow line may get close to 300m over Tas tonight and BOM have gone for 600m across southern Vic. regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Bathurst wx Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:22:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Well i can say this, its freezing in Bathurst.. Now 0.7 deg according to my wx station.. Was 11 deg at 4pm.. 
 
Ski areas copping a blizzard according to cams down south.  
 
I currently have wx station updating each min .  Its available at website below.
 
 

 
at : "Clyve Herbert" To: "aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: Poss TC Thursday island Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 05:15:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Very interesting intensification of Tropical disturbance just south east of Thursday island overnight although no apparant centre visible, the convective centre looks very intense. regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Tuan Phan" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Poss TC Thursday island Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 06:01:00 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Clyve, Yes, a very nice round looking blob of CB indeed. However, i think very low prob of it developing any further. Quikscat is showing no circulation at all. Yes, there was a very small but shallow low noted earlier. However, it didn't seem important enough to put on the 12z or 18z anal. cheers, tuan -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Clyve Herbert Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2003 05:16 To: aussie weather Subject: aus-wx: Poss TC Thursday island Hi all. Very interesting intensification of Tropical disturbance just south east of Thursday island overnight although no apparant centre visible, the convective centre looks very intense. regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Poss TC Thursday island Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 08:16:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tuan,and tropos. Although there has a very slight weakening of this TD, the Weipa radar shows a weak apparant rain wrapped centre north of Lochart river ...still you dont see to much of this stuff up north in June, infact I cant remember such an occurance in the last 30 years or so. regards Clyve H ----- Original Message ----- at : "Tuan Phan" To: Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 6:01 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Poss TC Thursday island > > Hi Clyve, > > Yes, a very nice round looking blob of CB indeed. However, i think very low > prob of it developing any further. > > Quikscat is showing no circulation at all. Yes, there was a very small but > shallow low noted earlier. However, it didn't seem important enough to put > on the 12z or 18z anal. > > cheers, > tuan > > > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Clyve Herbert > Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2003 05:16 > To: aussie weather > Subject: aus-wx: Poss TC Thursday island > > > Hi all. Very interesting intensification of Tropical disturbance just south > east of Thursday island overnight although no apparant centre visible, the > convective centre looks very intense. regards Clyve H. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 09:47:57 +1000 at : Anthony Cornelius Subject: aus-wx: SE QLD Fog (June 14) To: Aus-wx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone! Some nice fog around here this morning. I had originally set out to photograph the full moon descending behind some fog near our place...when I went to bed at around 2am, it was lovely and foggy! But when I got up at 5:30am, I was most dismayed to see our fog had all but disappeared. The moonset was around 6am and because of the ranges, I wouldn't have a chance to get into position somewhere else, so I decided to drive to Rosewood to get some fog photos (Rosewood is notoriously foggy...even more so than Hiddenvale which is also notoriously foggy!) The fog was quite thick, had to slow down to 30-40km/h in some places...but there were also ome gaps...I took a photo before the sun actually rose, but it gave a nice orange glow behind: http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/June14fog/GoodMorningRosewood.jpg Later the sun emerged behind some fog and made it look quite pretty... http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/June14fog/SunriseFog2.jpg I ended up climbing up a small hill to the NW of Rosewood, and it looked quite pretty at above with the sun illuminating the golden grass before some nice waves of fog, and then the mountains in the distance... http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/June14fog/GoodMorningRosewood3.jpg I ended up driving home soon after (had to do a few things), and of course...the fog I wanted at 5:30am that wasn't there redeveloped! http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/June14fog/HiddenvaleFog.jpg -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) 0417 759 304 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Oberon/Shooters Hill Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 16:25:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI all.
 
Had reports at Blizzard at Shooters Hill, at this stage he gas no snow to report. Although other reports stated there was snow falling. Is currently 3 deg in Oberon area.  Bathurst has slight rain fall, 8 deg though in Bathurst.
 
More to follow in next few hours when temps drop.
 
at : "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Oberon/Shooters Hill Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 16:54:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Another sms recvd at Blizzard, now snowing at Shooters Hill area. As Blizz puts it, horizontal slush.. 
 
Reports of bad road condtions  around Blayney/Orange area.  Accidents reported.
 
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 4:25 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Oberon/Shooters Hill

HI all.
 
Had reports at Blizzard at Shooters Hill, at this stage he gas no snow to report. Although other reports stated there was snow falling. Is currently 3 deg in Oberon area.  Bathurst has slight rain fall, 8 deg though in Bathurst.
 
More to follow in next few hours when temps drop.
 
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 17:49:24 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD Fog (June 14) X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some great photos there Anthony. Makes you want to be there yourself. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : Anthony Cornelius To: Aus-wx Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 09:47:57 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: SE QLD Fog (June 14) > Hi everyone! > > Some nice fog around here this morning. I had originally set out to > photograph the full moon descending behind some fog near our > place...when I went to bed at around 2am, it was lovely and foggy! But > when I got up at 5:30am, I was most dismayed to see our fog had all but > disappeared. The moonset was around 6am and because of the ranges, I > wouldn't have a chance to get into position somewhere else, so I > decided > to drive to Rosewood to get some fog photos (Rosewood is notoriously > foggy...even more so than Hiddenvale which is also notoriously foggy!) > > The fog was quite thick, had to slow down to 30-40km/h in some > places...but there were also ome gaps...I took a photo before the sun > actually rose, but it gave a nice orange glow behind: > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/June14fog/GoodMorningRosewood.jpg > > Later the sun emerged behind some fog and made it look quite pretty... > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/June14fog/SunriseFog2.jpg > > I ended up climbing up a small hill to the NW of Rosewood, and it > looked > quite pretty at above with the sun illuminating the golden grass > before some nice waves of fog, and then the mountains in the > distance... > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/June14fog/GoodMorningRosewood3.jpg > > I ended up driving home soon after (had to do a few things), and of > course...the fog I wanted at 5:30am that wasn't there redeveloped! > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/June14fog/HiddenvaleFog.jpg > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > 0417 759 304 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 17:55:56 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Poss TC Thursday island X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Meanwhile, we have a "trough of low pressure" which has brought almost continuous rolling thunder and more than 150mm (6 inches) rain since midnight to parts of the Territory. The Thunderstorm warning was hoisted at 03:05 and it is still up now at 17:55. It's been a ripper of a storm, horizontal rain, many flangs, but too wet to go out the door. We also have had a pretty good blob of convection on the satpics today. I see JTWC have lowered the Thursday Is are at "Fair" to "Poor" this arvo, so they are not expecting much of it. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : "Clyve Herbert" To: Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 08:16:39 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Poss TC Thursday island > Hi Tuan,and tropos. Although there has a very slight weakening of this > TD, > the Weipa radar shows a weak apparant rain wrapped centre north of > Lochart > river ...still you dont see to much of this stuff up north in June, > infact I > cant remember such an occurance in the last 30 years or so. regards > Clyve H > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Tuan Phan" > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 6:01 AM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Poss TC Thursday island > > > > > > Hi Clyve, > > > > Yes, a very nice round looking blob of CB indeed. However, i think > very > low > > prob of it developing any further. > > > > Quikscat is showing no circulation at all. Yes, there was a very > small but > > shallow low noted earlier. However, it didn't seem important enough > to put > > on the 12z or 18z anal. > > > > cheers, > > tuan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Clyve > Herbert > > Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2003 05:16 > > To: aussie weather > > Subject: aus-wx: Poss TC Thursday island > > > > > > Hi all. Very interesting intensification of Tropical disturbance just > south > > east of Thursday island overnight although no apparant centre > visible, the > > convective centre looks very intense. regards Clyve H. > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Mt Lambie area Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 20:01:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
8.00pm. Bathurst
 
Hi All.
 
Police just advised Sleet falling in area of Mt Lambie/ Great Western Hwy between Bathurst and Lithgow.  No snow reported as yet. 
 
 
at : "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Snow northeast of Melbourne Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 21:22:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A few images at the ranges northeast of Melbourne today - significant falls of snow last night and today meant snowploughs were out doing the Lake Mountain road and there were a few cars that got themselves into difficulty about the place.... Earlier this morning I tripped over (well, had to stop so I didn't run over these people walking along the middle of a public road) Macca & Chris Gribben walking up the snow covered road 1.5 - 2cm) to Mt Donna Buang as I was driving down at the summit (3cm had fallen up there by 8.30am). The guys continued on up the hill and I drove around towards Lake Mountain via Warburton & found snow falling to at least 860m with 5+cm of snow lying between 950 and 1050m - blizzard conditions some of the time. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/14_06_03.htm Enjoy!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : Peter Konnecke To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mt Lambie area Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 21:55:36 +1000 X-Mailer: EPOC Email Version 2.10 X-MIME-Autoconverted: at quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id HAA22618 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Very cold here in Oberon .... freezing in facf ... locals all say snow tonight ... owner of shrll servo has been here 9 yrs and says its certainly cold enough ,,, sorry 4 shorthand ..mailing at hotel room via mobile phone pete +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: "aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: Aus top end stuff! Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:17:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Our wondering tropical disturbance sitting north east of Darwin looks very interesting. A recurve in the next 6 hours may alter the record books!.regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:58:22 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: I'm back to land of aus at US storm chasing Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello, I am back here in Australia after 5 grueling weeks in the US. One tornado this year but also some of the most impressive unique structures the US can offer in terms of LP supercells "wedding cake" structure and HP monster beast though more like your LP spiral style supercell which was inflow dominant - the inflow pulling in air so strong that it ripped sheeting iron off a mobile home - yes inflow. US chasers measured some wind gusts of about 100km/hr inflow winds. I will be gradually back into the rhythm of things here and getting videos and stills together as well as photographs developed although I am not too much into photography these days or perhaps did not have time to in some situations. Definitely some unique and awesome, powerful stuff. Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher at Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: 16 Jun 2003 02:20:50 -0000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aus top end stuff! at : "Mr Michael Brock" X-Mailer: Mr.Mail 0.5 X-Originating-IP: 203.39.3.175 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Clyve, I'm just spending a few days up here in Darwin, and you can imagine my surprise when we had a thunderstorm wander past yesterday afternoon! Very strange goings on for this time of the year for sure!!!! Max -- Original Email ----- at : Clyve Herbert To: aussie weather Date: 15-Jun-2003 09:17 Subject: aus-wx: Aus top end stuff! > Hi all. Our wondering tropical disturbance sitting north east of Darwin > looks very interesting. A recurve in the next 6 hours may alter the record > books!.regards Clyve H. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Cold Nights Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:46:07 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I recorded 2.3 degrees here at Hornsby Heights Saturday night & 2.7 degrees last night. The coldest nights so far this winter!
 
 
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:31:17 +1000 at : Matthew Smith Organization: IDXNET X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow northeast of Melbourne Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane!! Nice photos of snow :) must have been really nice to be up there! The joys of living in vic in winter.... Anthony - nice fog pictures !!! 17C at Burwood at 2pm.. freezing!!! Matt Smith Jane ONeill wrote: > A few images at the ranges northeast of Melbourne today - significant > falls of snow last night and today meant snowploughs were out doing the > Lake Mountain road and there were a few cars that got themselves into > difficulty about the place.... > > Earlier this morning I tripped over (well, had to stop so I didn't run > over these people walking along the middle of a public road) Macca & > Chris Gribben walking up the snow covered road 1.5 - 2cm) to Mt Donna > Buang as I was driving down at the summit (3cm had fallen up there by > 8.30am). The guys continued on up the hill and I drove around towards > Lake Mountain via Warburton & found snow falling to at least 860m with > 5+cm of snow lying between 950 and 1050m - blizzard conditions some of > the time. > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/14_06_03.htm > > Enjoy!! > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aus top end stuff! Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:57:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Mr Brock. I would say you were fortunate to experience a thunderstorm in Darwin in mid June!, I think the average is about one per 10 years. With that said however, I was not surprised at the event. Although the lower levels are rather dry over the top end there is sufficient moisture within the mid and upper levels and this coupled with a tropical disturbance not far to the north was enough to provide some of the triggers. What is also interesting is the large cloud band to the south of Darwin bringing a rare spell of large scale cloud across the top and and further south, this seems to be associated with large scale baroclinic conditions in the upper levels. It also seems that this event is not over yet, the remains of the tropical disturbance are located about 200+ kl to the north of Darwin but is showing sighns of becoming sheared by upper north westerlies. Enjoy the rest of your stay...and take a few photos of this rare 'dry season' event. Regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Mr Michael Brock" To: Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 12:20 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aus top end stuff! > Hi Clyve, > > I'm just spending a few days up here in Darwin, and you can imagine my > surprise when we had a thunderstorm wander past yesterday afternoon! > Very strange goings on for this time of the year for sure!!!! > > Max > > -- Original Email ----- > at : Clyve Herbert > To: aussie weather > Date: 15-Jun-2003 09:17 > Subject: aus-wx: Aus top end stuff! > > > Hi all. Our wondering tropical disturbance sitting north east of Darwin > > looks very interesting. A recurve in the next 6 hours may alter the record > > books!.regards Clyve H. > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: coldie tornado Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:12:53 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Media report here
 
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:39:16 +1000 at : Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aus-wx Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a minimum of -2.7C here this morning... This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out for everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be at uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute cram…err..studying! I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can have an easy morning, no fuss no stress…even take some frost and fog photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow made its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. I forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did the search…found it! But wait… "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite the ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house…it had a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. I then went and checked my car…of course, all I had were pants and a jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the house) and thought "oh sh…" after realising my feet were suddenly getting VERY painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall off…) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite thick…the windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought…I wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute preparation before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane I never had ice on my car like that before! http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the windscreen…"Hmm…something isn't right here" - it took a second to work out, something about not being able to see out the windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen water could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had was to flick the windscreen wipers on…well, a fine lot of good that did! I SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods…her suggestion was to turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into the house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I grabbed a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to see through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the freezer, and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually began to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling back in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C…Laidley looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to get to Toowoomba in time! I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley…lots of people were sitting there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at the coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else with a kitchen spatula too…I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's today too to pick up a new one… Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good pace I'll be on time…everything should be right now! Erm…no!!! Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front of a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only capable of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! I wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and tear on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the brakes at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake…a nice straight stretch ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h…so I overtook…easy, nothing to it…except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to pull over and check the car for damage…none that I noticed thankfully, but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road (which once again got overtaken…thankfully no animals this time). The "cold journey" went without incident at then on…I dropped my car off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni…arriving there at 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing to do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do some last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be open…it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out of me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate…this time sitting on a chair in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind…it was impossible to write I was shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba ended up at uni…they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the building until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our exam room was broken too… In think I'll move to the tropics… (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) 0417 759 304 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:04:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hehehehe - dear Naive Queenslander, Winter morning routine (if you don't have a garage or a tree to park under) 1. jog outside and while taking photos of ice, frost, snow, turn car on and leave to idle for 5 - 10 minutes with demister on warm (hint - switch the air conditioner switch on - it'll be more efficient once the ice has melted and you have to contend with a fogged up windscreen) 2. finish getting dressed 3. take bucket of water with you that is barely warm (only just barely tepid with the chill taken off - or you'll crack the windscreen) 4. throw bucket of water over now pre-warmed windscreen and all windows, and then 5. turn wipers on to clear the slush after inserting self into now warmed car..... Shopping list: gloves and carport or garage or tarp slung between trees The novelty will wear off (probably by tomorrow) but the routine will remain.........Queanbeyan with mornings of -9°C and a manual V8 Ford without an automatic choke used to see me have to carefully place a housebrick on the accelerator to keep the car idling steadily for 10 minutes while I got dressed, and I never left the house without a bucket of tepid water...problem was, the engine was never even warm after 10 minutes of idling (so I drive and shivvvvvvered) and it was only a 3 minute drive to work so on most cold mornings I had to drive halfway to the airport and back again to bring the engine up to operating temperature before I turned it off at work. Welcome to winter!! (I'd forgotten how much fun that can be!!) -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- at : "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > Hi everyone, > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out for > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be at > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute cram.err..studying! > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost and fog > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow made > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. I > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did > the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite the > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house.it had > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. I > then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants and a > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the house) > and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly getting VERY > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall > off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite thick.the > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought.I > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute preparation > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane I > never had ice on my car like that before! > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second to work > out, something about not being able to see out the > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen water > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had was > to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that did! I > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion was to > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into the > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I grabbed > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to see > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the freezer, > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually began > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling back > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C.Laidley > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to get > to Toowoomba in time! > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were sitting > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at the > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else > with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > today too to pick up a new one. > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good > pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front of > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only capable > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! I > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and tear > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the brakes > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight stretch > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, nothing > to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to > pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed thankfully, > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road > (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this time). > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped my car > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving there at > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing to > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do some > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be > open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out of > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on a chair > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to write I was > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba > ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the building > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our exam > room was broken too. > > In think I'll move to the tropics. > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > 0417 759 304 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:11:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Supercell. Very nice story, and looks like another frost there tonight. The sunset photo, is that the cirrus band extending down at the Darwin area?....regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > Hi everyone, > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out for > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be at > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute cram.err..studying! > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost and fog > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow made > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. I > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did > the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite the > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house.it had > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. I > then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants and a > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the house) > and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly getting VERY > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall > off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite thick.the > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought.I > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute preparation > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane I > never had ice on my car like that before! > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second to work > out, something about not being able to see out the > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen water > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had was > to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that did! I > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion was to > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into the > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I grabbed > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to see > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the freezer, > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually began > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling back > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C.Laidley > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to get > to Toowoomba in time! > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were sitting > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at the > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else > with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > today too to pick up a new one. > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good > pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front of > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only capable > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! I > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and tear > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the brakes > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight stretch > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, nothing > to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to > pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed thankfully, > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road > (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this time). > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped my car > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving there at > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing to > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do some > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be > open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out of > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on a chair > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to write I was > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba > ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the building > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our exam > room was broken too. > > In think I'll move to the tropics. > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > 0417 759 304 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:20:52 +1000 at : Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Jane! I know now to head outside 10-15mins before I want to leave and turn the car & heater on, by the time I come back it should all be defrosted (and the car will be warmed up a little too!) No better teacher than experience!!! Our garage is full of umm...junk 'n stuff - dad and I will be cleaning it out after my exams are finished, so that will eventually end the ice problem! It is still a bit of a novelty though! Clyve - yep! Same band, it became apparent this morning quite clearly, interestingly it seemed to evaporate across the sky...thick to the NW and it would thin out as it spread eastwards. Hopefully we get some more high cloud tomorrow to throw another nice sunset! AC Jane ONeill wrote: > > hehehehe - dear Naive Queenslander, > > Winter morning routine (if you don't have a garage or a tree to park > under) > 1. jog outside and while taking photos of ice, frost, snow, turn car on > and leave to idle for 5 - 10 minutes with demister on warm (hint - > switch the air conditioner switch on - it'll be more efficient once the > ice has melted and you have to contend with a fogged up windscreen) > 2. finish getting dressed > 3. take bucket of water with you that is barely warm (only just barely > tepid with the chill taken off - or you'll crack the windscreen) > 4. throw bucket of water over now pre-warmed windscreen and all windows, > and then > 5. turn wipers on to clear the slush after inserting self into now > warmed car..... > > Shopping list: > gloves and > carport or > garage or > tarp slung between trees > > The novelty will wear off (probably by tomorrow) but the routine will > remain.........Queanbeyan with mornings of -9°C and a manual V8 Ford > without an automatic choke used to see me have to carefully place a > housebrick on the accelerator to keep the car idling steadily for 10 > minutes while I got dressed, and I never left the house without a bucket > of tepid water...problem was, the engine was never even warm after 10 > minutes of idling (so I drive and shivvvvvvered) and it was only a 3 > minute drive to work so on most cold mornings I had to drive halfway to > the airport and back again to bring the engine up to operating > temperature before I turned it off at work. > > Welcome to winter!! (I'd forgotten how much fun that can be!!) > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Anthony Cornelius" > To: "Aus-wx" > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM > Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out > for > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be > at > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute > cram.err..studying! > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost and fog > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow > made > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. > I > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did > > the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite > the > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house.it > had > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. > I > > then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants and a > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the > house) > > and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly getting > VERY > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall > > off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite > thick.the > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought.I > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > preparation > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane > I > > never had ice on my car like that before! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > > windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second to work > > out, something about not being able to see out the > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen > water > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had > was > > to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that did! > I > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion was to > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into > the > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I > grabbed > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to > see > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > freezer, > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually > began > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling > back > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C.Laidley > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to > get > > to Toowoomba in time! > > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were sitting > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at > the > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else > > with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > > today too to pick up a new one. > > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good > > pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front > of > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only > capable > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! > I > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and > tear > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the > brakes > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight stretch > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, nothing > > to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to > > pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed thankfully, > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road > > (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this time). > > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped my car > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving there at > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing > to > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do > some > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be > > open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out > of > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on a chair > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to write I > was > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba > > ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the > building > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our > exam > > room was broken too. > > > > In think I'll move to the tropics. > > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > 0417 759 304 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) 0417 759 304 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:43:35 +1000 at : Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anthony... Think yourself lucky you weren't at Glen Innes AP... only -12 there. Then everything would be frozen. PS As far as I can ascertain, -12 (to nearest) appears as though it could be the lowest June temp outside the Snowies... Blair or anyone ??? Conform if possible?? Cheeers, don W. Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > Thanks Jane! > > I know now to head outside 10-15mins before I want to leave and turn the > car & heater on, by the time I come back it should all be defrosted (and > the car will be warmed up a little too!) No better teacher than > experience!!! > > Our garage is full of umm...junk 'n stuff - dad and I will be cleaning > it out after my exams are finished, so that will eventually end the ice > problem! It is still a bit of a novelty though! > > Clyve - yep! Same band, it became apparent this morning quite clearly, > interestingly it seemed to evaporate across the sky...thick to the NW > and it would thin out as it spread eastwards. Hopefully we get some > more high cloud tomorrow to throw another nice sunset! > > AC > > Jane ONeill wrote: > > > > hehehehe - dear Naive Queenslander, > > > > Winter morning routine (if you don't have a garage or a tree to park > > under) > > 1. jog outside and while taking photos of ice, frost, snow, turn car on > > and leave to idle for 5 - 10 minutes with demister on warm (hint - > > switch the air conditioner switch on - it'll be more efficient once the > > ice has melted and you have to contend with a fogged up windscreen) > > 2. finish getting dressed > > 3. take bucket of water with you that is barely warm (only just barely > > tepid with the chill taken off - or you'll crack the windscreen) > > 4. throw bucket of water over now pre-warmed windscreen and all windows, > > and then > > 5. turn wipers on to clear the slush after inserting self into now > > warmed car..... > > > > Shopping list: > > gloves and > > carport or > > garage or > > tarp slung between trees > > > > The novelty will wear off (probably by tomorrow) but the routine will > > remain.........Queanbeyan with mornings of -9°C and a manual V8 Ford > > without an automatic choke used to see me have to carefully place a > > housebrick on the accelerator to keep the car idling steadily for 10 > > minutes while I got dressed, and I never left the house without a bucket > > of tepid water...problem was, the engine was never even warm after 10 > > minutes of idling (so I drive and shivvvvvvered) and it was only a 3 > > minute drive to work so on most cold mornings I had to drive halfway to > > the airport and back again to bring the engine up to operating > > temperature before I turned it off at work. > > > > Welcome to winter!! (I'd forgotten how much fun that can be!!) > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > -------------------------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > at : "Anthony Cornelius" > > To: "Aus-wx" > > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > > > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > > > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out > > for > > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a > > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be > > at > > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute > > cram.err..studying! > > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost and fog > > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, > > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I > > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have > > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow > > made > > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge > > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. > > I > > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did > > > the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled > > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the > > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite > > the > > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the > > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > > > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house.it > > had > > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. > > I > > > then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants and a > > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the > > house) > > > and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly getting > > VERY > > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall > > > off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > > > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite > > thick.the > > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought.I > > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > > preparation > > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to > > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane > > I > > > never had ice on my car like that before! > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > > > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > > > windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second to work > > > out, something about not being able to see out the > > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > > > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen > > water > > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had > > was > > > to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that did! > > I > > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion was to > > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into > > the > > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I > > grabbed > > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to > > see > > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of > > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know > > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > > freezer, > > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > > > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually > > began > > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling > > back > > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This > > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C.Laidley > > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to > > get > > > to Toowoomba in time! > > > > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were sitting > > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on > > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at > > the > > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else > > > with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > > > today too to pick up a new one. > > > > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good > > > pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! > > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front > > of > > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only > > capable > > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! > > I > > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and > > tear > > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for > > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the > > brakes > > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight stretch > > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, nothing > > > to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car > > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade > > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to > > > pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed thankfully, > > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road > > > (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this time). > > > > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped my car > > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving there at > > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am > > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing > > to > > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do > > some > > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be > > > open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out > > of > > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised > > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on a chair > > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to write I > > was > > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba > > > ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the > > building > > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our > > exam > > > room was broken too. > > > > > > In think I'll move to the tropics. > > > > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > > > -- > > > Anthony Cornelius > > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > > 0417 759 304 > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > -- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > 0417 759 304 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:44:38 +1000 at : Keith Barnett Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If it were me I would need a *cool* head to work out the physics questions that arise at the frost pattern on the green corrugated roof.... ----- Original Message ----- at : "Anthony Cornelius" To: Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 8:20 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Thanks Jane! I know now to head outside 10-15mins before I want to leave and turn the car & heater on, by the time I come back it should all be defrosted (and the car will be warmed up a little too!) No better teacher than experience!!! Our garage is full of umm...junk 'n stuff - dad and I will be cleaning it out after my exams are finished, so that will eventually end the ice problem! It is still a bit of a novelty though! Clyve - yep! Same band, it became apparent this morning quite clearly, interestingly it seemed to evaporate across the sky...thick to the NW and it would thin out as it spread eastwards. Hopefully we get some more high cloud tomorrow to throw another nice sunset! AC Jane ONeill wrote: > > hehehehe - dear Naive Queenslander, > > Winter morning routine (if you don't have a garage or a tree to park > under) > 1. jog outside and while taking photos of ice, frost, snow, turn car on > and leave to idle for 5 - 10 minutes with demister on warm (hint - > switch the air conditioner switch on - it'll be more efficient once the > ice has melted and you have to contend with a fogged up windscreen) > 2. finish getting dressed > 3. take bucket of water with you that is barely warm (only just barely > tepid with the chill taken off - or you'll crack the windscreen) > 4. throw bucket of water over now pre-warmed windscreen and all windows, > and then > 5. turn wipers on to clear the slush after inserting self into now > warmed car..... > > Shopping list: > gloves and > carport or > garage or > tarp slung between trees > > The novelty will wear off (probably by tomorrow) but the routine will > remain.........Queanbeyan with mornings of -9°C and a manual V8 Ford > without an automatic choke used to see me have to carefully place a > housebrick on the accelerator to keep the car idling steadily for 10 > minutes while I got dressed, and I never left the house without a bucket > of tepid water...problem was, the engine was never even warm after 10 > minutes of idling (so I drive and shivvvvvvered) and it was only a 3 > minute drive to work so on most cold mornings I had to drive halfway to > the airport and back again to bring the engine up to operating > temperature before I turned it off at work. > > Welcome to winter!! (I'd forgotten how much fun that can be!!) > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Anthony Cornelius" > To: "Aus-wx" > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM > Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out > for > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be > at > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute > cram.err..studying! > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost and fog > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow > made > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. > I > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did > > the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite > the > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house.it > had > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. > I > > then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants and a > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the > house) > > and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly getting > VERY > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall > > off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite > thick.the > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought.I > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > preparation > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane > I > > never had ice on my car like that before! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > > windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second to work > > out, something about not being able to see out the > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen > water > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had > was > > to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that did! > I > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion was to > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into > the > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I > grabbed > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to > see > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > freezer, > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually > began > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling > back > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C.Laidley > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to > get > > to Toowoomba in time! > > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were sitting > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at > the > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else > > with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > > today too to pick up a new one. > > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good > > pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front > of > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only > capable > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! > I > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and > tear > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the > brakes > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight stretch > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, nothing > > to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to > > pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed thankfully, > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road > > (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this time). > > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped my car > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving there at > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing > to > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do > some > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be > > open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out > of > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on a chair > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to write I > was > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba > > ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the > building > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our > exam > > room was broken too. > > > > In think I'll move to the tropics. > > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > 0417 759 304 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) 0417 759 304 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:05:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I believe a Credit Card makes an ideal scraper..not that I have ever had to put that into practice. Only one frost in my yard in near 20 years. ( Mind you living on a hill helps ) Michael ----- Original Message ----- at : "Jane ONeill" To: Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... hehehehe - dear Naive Queenslander, Winter morning routine (if you don't have a garage or a tree to park under) 1. jog outside and while taking photos of ice, frost, snow, turn car on and leave to idle for 5 - 10 minutes with demister on warm (hint - switch the air conditioner switch on - it'll be more efficient once the ice has melted and you have to contend with a fogged up windscreen) 2. finish getting dressed 3. take bucket of water with you that is barely warm (only just barely tepid with the chill taken off - or you'll crack the windscreen) 4. throw bucket of water over now pre-warmed windscreen and all windows, and then 5. turn wipers on to clear the slush after inserting self into now warmed car..... Shopping list: gloves and carport or garage or tarp slung between trees The novelty will wear off (probably by tomorrow) but the routine will remain.........Queanbeyan with mornings of -9°C and a manual V8 Ford without an automatic choke used to see me have to carefully place a housebrick on the accelerator to keep the car idling steadily for 10 minutes while I got dressed, and I never left the house without a bucket of tepid water...problem was, the engine was never even warm after 10 minutes of idling (so I drive and shivvvvvvered) and it was only a 3 minute drive to work so on most cold mornings I had to drive halfway to the airport and back again to bring the engine up to operating temperature before I turned it off at work. Welcome to winter!! (I'd forgotten how much fun that can be!!) -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- at : "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > Hi everyone, > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out for > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be at > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute cram.err..studying! > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost and fog > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow made > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. I > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did > the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite the > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house.it had > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. I > then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants and a > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the house) > and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly getting VERY > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall > off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite thick.the > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought.I > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute preparation > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane I > never had ice on my car like that before! > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second to work > out, something about not being able to see out the > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen water > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had was > to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that did! I > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion was to > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into the > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I grabbed > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to see > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the freezer, > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually began > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling back > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C.Laidley > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to get > to Toowoomba in time! > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were sitting > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at the > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else > with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > today too to pick up a new one. > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good > pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front of > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only capable > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! I > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and tear > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the brakes > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight stretch > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, nothing > to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to > pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed thankfully, > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road > (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this time). > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped my car > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving there at > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing to > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do some > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be > open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out of > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on a chair > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to write I was > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba > ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the building > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our exam > room was broken too. > > In think I'll move to the tropics. > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > 0417 759 304 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.7] X-Originating-Email: [mskikey at hotmail.com] at : "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... 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Gee Glen Innes gets cold!
 
Last year, around this time, I showed a group of Queenslanders how to do the credit card thing on their windscreens in a -7 degrees Dubbo dawn.  Actually I prefer the driver's licence - always worried the ice might damage the magnetic strip - don't know why; I'm just superstitous.
 
Down that low (-7), water on the screen is useless, but given it was only a balmy -2 degrees, water would have done the trick.
 
Anthony, were there many cars waylaid, by a lack of anti freeze?
 
Michael ( at a seriously, nocturnally frigid Canberra)
> at : Don White
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander...
>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:43:35 +1000
>
>Anthony...
>Think yourself lucky you weren't at Glen Innes AP... only -12 there.
>Then everything would be frozen.
>PS As far as I can ascertain, -12 (to nearest) appears as though it
>could be the lowest June temp outside the Snowies... Blair or anyone ???
>Conform if possible??
>
>Cheeers,
>don W.
>
>Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Jane!
> >
> > I know now to head outside 10-15mins before I want to leave and turn the
> > car & heater on, by the time I come back it should all be defrosted (and
> > the car will be warmed up a little too!) No better teacher than
> > experience!!!
> >
> > Our garage is full of umm...junk 'n stuff - dad and I will be cleaning
> > it out after my exams are finished, so that will eventually end the ice
> > problem! It is still a bit of a novelty though!
> >
> > Clyve - yep! Same band, it became apparent this morning quite clearly,
> > interestingly it seemed to evaporate across the sky...thick to the NW
> > and it would thin out as it spread eastwards. Hopefully we get some
> > more high cloud tomorrow to throw another nice sunset!
> >
> > AC
> >
> > Jane ONeill wrote:
> > >
> > > hehehehe - dear Naive Queenslander,
> > >
> > > Winter morning routine (if you don't have a garage or a tree to park
> > > under)
> > > 1. jog outside and while taking photos of ice, frost, snow, turn car on
> > > and leave to idle for 5 - 10 minutes with demister on warm (hint -
> > > switch the air conditioner switch on - it'll be more efficient once the
> > > ice has melted and you have to contend with a fogged up windscreen)
> > > 2. finish getting dressed
> > > 3. take bucket of water with you that is barely warm (only just barely
> > > tepid with the chill taken off - or you'll crack the windscreen)
> > > 4. throw bucket of water over now pre-warmed windscreen and all windows,
> > > and then
> > > 5. turn wipers on to clear the slush after inserting self into now
> > > warmed car.....
> > >
> > > Shopping list:
> > > gloves and
> > > carport or
> > > garage or
> > > tarp slung between trees
> > >
> > > The novelty will wear off (probably by tomorrow) but the routine will
> > > remain.........Queanbeyan with mornings of -9°C and a manual V8 Ford
> > > without an automatic choke used to see me have to carefully place a
> > > housebrick on the accelerator to keep the car idling steadily for 10
> > > minutes while I got dressed, and I never left the house without a bucket
> > > of tepid water...problem was, the engine was never even warm after 10
> > > minutes of idling (so I drive and shivvvvvvered) and it was only a 3
> > > minute drive to work so on most cold mornings I had to drive halfway to
> > > the airport and back again to bring the engine up to operating
> > > temperature before I turned it off at work.
> > >
> > > Welcome to winter!! (I'd forgotten how much fun that can be!!)
> > >
> > > --------------------------------
> > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > > cadence at australianskynweather.com
> > >
> > > Australian Sky & Weather
> > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> > >
> > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
> > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> > >
> > > ***The journey is the reward***
> > > --------------------------------
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > at : "Anthony Cornelius"
> > > To: "Aus-wx"
> > > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM
> > > Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander...
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the
> > > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a
> > > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning...
> > > >
> > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..."
> > > >
> > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out
> > > for
> > > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a
> > > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be
> > > at
> > > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute
> > > cram.err..studying!
> > > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can
> > > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost and fog
> > > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the
> > > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over,
> > > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I
> > > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have
> > > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow
> > > made
> > > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge
> > > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt.
> > > I
> > > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did
> > > > the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled
> > > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced
> > > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many
> > > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the
> > > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite
> > > the
> > > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the
> > > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it!
> > > >
> > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg
> > > >
> > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house.it
> > > had
> > > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up.
> > > I
> > > > then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants and a
> > > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4
> > > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the
> > > house)
> > > > and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly getting
> > > VERY
> > > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall
> > > > off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater
> > > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again.
> > > >
> > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite
> > > thick.the
> > > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought.I
> > > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute
> > > preparation
> > > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to
> > > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane
> > > I
> > > > never had ice on my car like that before!
> > > >
> > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg
> > > >
> > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days
> > > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the
> > > > windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second to work
> > > > out, something about not being able to see out the
> > > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen
> > > water
> > > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had
> > > was
> > > > to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that did!
> > > I
> > > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion was to
> > > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I
> > > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of
> > > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was
> > > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew
> > > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into
> > > the
> > > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I
> > > grabbed
> > > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off.
> > > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a
> > > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to
> > > see
> > > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of
> > > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know
> > > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want
> > > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the
> > > freezer,
> > > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!)
> > > >
> > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually
> > > began
> > > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling
> > > back
> > > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This
> > > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little
> > > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C.Laidley
> > > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had
> > > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to
> > > get
> > > > to Toowoomba in time!
> > > >
> > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were sitting
> > > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on
> > > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at
> > > the
> > > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who
> > > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else
> > > > with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's
> > > > today too to pick up a new one.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good
> > > > pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!!
> > > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front
> > > of
> > > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only
> > > capable
> > > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough!
> > > I
> > > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and
> > > tear
> > > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for
> > > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to
> > > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the
> > > brakes
> > > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight stretch
> > > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, nothing
> > > > to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car
> > > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade
> > > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to
> > > > pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed thankfully,
> > > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road
> > > > (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this time).
> > > >
> > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped my car
> > > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving there at
> > > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am
> > > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my
> > > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing
> > > to
> > > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do
> > > some
> > > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be
> > > > open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire
> > > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out
> > > of
> > > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised
> > > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on a chair
> > > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to write I
> > > was
> > > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba
> > > > ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the
> > > building
> > > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started.
> > > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our
> > > exam
> > > > room was broken too.
> > > >
> > > > In think I'll move to the tropics.
> > > >
> > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear
> > > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!)
> > > >
> > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg
> > > > --
> > > > Anthony Cornelius
> > > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the
> > > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
> > > > 0417 759 304
> > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > >
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X-Originating-IP: [203.109.249.138] X-Originating-Email: [jimboharr at hotmail.com] at : "James Harris" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:54:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2003 12:54:29.0171 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C868830:01C33406] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm a big fan of the old Credit Card on Iced windows. I would never have thought of using it myself until staying in Jindabyne one week where I constantly woke up in -5 to -10 temps and the car windows were frozen solid. It was about 10 minutes after I had spent heating the window up that a local nearby yelled out "You got a Credit Card on ya" ... Hmm seems an odd question at 7:30am in a freezing cold car park but I politely answered yes. He then mentioned to get it out and start scraping the windscreen and watch how quick it works . Sure enough and for the rest of that trip the Credit Card was out every morning scraping away the Ice in record time . I wonder who on earth thought of using a Credit Card on there icy car window ??? James ----- Original Message ----- at : "Michael Thompson" To: Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > I believe a Credit Card makes an ideal scraper..not that I have ever had to > put that into practice. Only one frost in my yard in near 20 years. ( Mind > you living on a hill helps ) > > Michael > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Jane ONeill" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 7:04 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > hehehehe - dear Naive Queenslander, > > Winter morning routine (if you don't have a garage or a tree to park > under) > 1. jog outside and while taking photos of ice, frost, snow, turn car on > and leave to idle for 5 - 10 minutes with demister on warm (hint - > switch the air conditioner switch on - it'll be more efficient once the > ice has melted and you have to contend with a fogged up windscreen) > 2. finish getting dressed > 3. take bucket of water with you that is barely warm (only just barely > tepid with the chill taken off - or you'll crack the windscreen) > 4. throw bucket of water over now pre-warmed windscreen and all windows, > and then > 5. turn wipers on to clear the slush after inserting self into now > warmed car..... > > Shopping list: > gloves and > carport or > garage or > tarp slung between trees > > The novelty will wear off (probably by tomorrow) but the routine will > remain.........Queanbeyan with mornings of -9°C and a manual V8 Ford > without an automatic choke used to see me have to carefully place a > housebrick on the accelerator to keep the car idling steadily for 10 > minutes while I got dressed, and I never left the house without a bucket > of tepid water...problem was, the engine was never even warm after 10 > minutes of idling (so I drive and shivvvvvvered) and it was only a 3 > minute drive to work so on most cold mornings I had to drive halfway to > the airport and back again to bring the engine up to operating > temperature before I turned it off at work. > > Welcome to winter!! (I'd forgotten how much fun that can be!!) > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Anthony Cornelius" > To: "Aus-wx" > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM > Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out > for > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be > at > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute > cram.err..studying! > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost and fog > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow > made > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. > I > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did > > the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite > the > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house.it > had > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. > I > > then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants and a > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the > house) > > and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly getting > VERY > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall > > off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite > thick.the > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought.I > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > preparation > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane > I > > never had ice on my car like that before! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > > windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second to work > > out, something about not being able to see out the > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen > water > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had > was > > to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that did! > I > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion was to > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into > the > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I > grabbed > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to > see > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > freezer, > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually > began > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling > back > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C.Laidley > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to > get > > to Toowoomba in time! > > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were sitting > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at > the > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else > > with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > > today too to pick up a new one. > > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good > > pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front > of > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only > capable > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! > I > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and > tear > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the > brakes > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight stretch > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, nothing > > to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to > > pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed thankfully, > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road > > (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this time). > > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped my car > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving there at > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing > to > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do > some > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be > > open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out > of > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on a chair > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to write I > was > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba > > ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the > building > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our > exam > > room was broken too. > > > > In think I'll move to the tropics. > > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > 0417 759 304 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:18:09 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A very good report Anthony. The last report of 0 degrees C here was well over 100 years ago, so I haven't had to deal with a frosted windscreen since years before I left Oz. I always used the credit card trick which others have mentioned. Back in those days a drivers licence, which someone mentioned, was always a bloody great sheet of paper which always fell apart along the folds before you got your new licence, so it was no use at all on the iced windscreen back then. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : Anthony Cornelius To: Aus-wx Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:39:16 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > Hi everyone, > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out for > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be at > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute cram…err..studying! > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress…even take some frost and fog > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow > made > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. I > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did > the search…found it! But wait… "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite > the > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house…it > had > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. I > then went and checked my car…of course, all I had were pants and a > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the > house) > and thought "oh sh…" after realising my feet were suddenly getting VERY > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall > off…) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite thick…the > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought…I > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > preparation > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane > I > never had ice on my car like that before! > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > windscreen…"Hmm…something isn't right here" - it took a second to work > out, something about not being able to see out the > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen > water > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had > was > to flick the windscreen wipers on…well, a fine lot of good that did! I > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods…her suggestion was to > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into > the > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I > grabbed > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to see > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > freezer, > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually > began > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling back > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C…Laidley > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to get > to Toowoomba in time! > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley…lots of people were sitting > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at the > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else > with a kitchen spatula too…I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > today too to pick up a new one… > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good > pace I'll be on time…everything should be right now! Erm…no!!! > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front of > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only capable > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! > I > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and tear > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the > brakes > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake…a nice straight stretch > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h…so I overtook…easy, nothing > to it…except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to > pull over and check the car for damage…none that I noticed thankfully, > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road > (which once again got overtaken…thankfully no animals this time). > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on…I dropped my car > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni…arriving there at > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing to > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do some > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be > open…it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out of > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate…this time sitting on a chair > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind…it was impossible to write I was > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba > ended up at uni…they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the building > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our exam > room was broken too… > > In think I'll move to the tropics… > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > 0417 759 304 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : dactyl at world.std.com To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:03:58 -0400 Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) X-MIME-Autoconverted: at Quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id NAA19568 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HA HA I just shared with Anthony my Yankee method of scraping ice. I laughed when I saw that I wasn't the only one who used that method. [12:51] i've used my drivers license to scrape thin layers of ice, and credit cards when I can't find my scraper... As I told Anthony, this was a great story and I thank him for sharing it. Tara On 16 Jun 2003 at 21:05, Michael Thompson wrote: > I believe a Credit Card makes an ideal scraper..not that I have ever had to > put that into practice. Only one frost in my yard in near 20 years. ( Mind > you living on a hill helps ) > > Michael > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Jane ONeill" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 7:04 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > hehehehe - dear Naive Queenslander, > > Winter morning routine (if you don't have a garage or a tree to park > under) > 1. jog outside and while taking photos of ice, frost, snow, turn car on > and leave to idle for 5 - 10 minutes with demister on warm (hint - > switch the air conditioner switch on - it'll be more efficient once the > ice has melted and you have to contend with a fogged up windscreen) > 2. finish getting dressed > 3. take bucket of water with you that is barely warm (only just barely > tepid with the chill taken off - or you'll crack the windscreen) > 4. throw bucket of water over now pre-warmed windscreen and all windows, > and then > 5. turn wipers on to clear the slush after inserting self into now > warmed car..... > > Shopping list: > gloves and > carport or > garage or > tarp slung between trees > > The novelty will wear off (probably by tomorrow) but the routine will > remain.........Queanbeyan with mornings of -9°C and a manual V8 Ford > without an automatic choke used to see me have to carefully place a > housebrick on the accelerator to keep the car idling steadily for 10 > minutes while I got dressed, and I never left the house without a bucket > of tepid water...problem was, the engine was never even warm after 10 > minutes of idling (so I drive and shivvvvvvered) and it was only a 3 > minute drive to work so on most cold mornings I had to drive halfway to > the airport and back again to bring the engine up to operating > temperature before I turned it off at work. > > Welcome to winter!! (I'd forgotten how much fun that can be!!) > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Anthony Cornelius" > To: "Aus-wx" > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM > Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out > for > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be > at > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute > cram.err..studying! > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost and fog > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow > made > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. > I > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did > > the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite > the > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house.it > had > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. > I > > then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants and a > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the > house) > > and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly getting > VERY > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall > > off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite > thick.the > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought.I > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > preparation > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane > I > > never had ice on my car like that before! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > > windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second to work > > out, something about not being able to see out the > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen > water > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had > was > > to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that did! > I > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion was to > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into > the > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I > grabbed > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to > see > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > freezer, > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually > began > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling > back > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C.Laidley > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to > get > > to Toowoomba in time! > > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were sitting > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at > the > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else > > with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > > today too to pick up a new one. > > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good > > pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front > of > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only > capable > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! > I > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and > tear > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the > brakes > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight stretch > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, nothing > > to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to > > pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed thankfully, > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road > > (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this time). > > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped my car > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving there at > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing > to > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do > some > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be > > open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out > of > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on a chair > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to write I > was > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba > > ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the > building > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our > exam > > room was broken too. > > > > In think I'll move to the tropics. > > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > 0417 759 304 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ This email is virus free. Scanned before leaving mailbox with Norton Antivirus 2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 05:41:35 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... at : Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at overflow.net.au X-MIME-Autoconverted: at quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id PAA15953 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hehe. Yesterday the only thing i could find quick enough to get the ice off was.... *drumroll* ....... a credit card! $%!# amazing things they are. A bit of shadecloth did the job last night, no scraping needed and the rest of the ice on the car will fall off in transit. Now, just to get it started. P.S. A coolish 0.5 degrees in Jimboomba at present time (0541hrs) *Dale* on 17/06/2003 03:03, dactyl at world.std.com at dactyl at world.std.com wrote: > HA HA > > I just shared with Anthony my Yankee method of scraping ice. I > laughed when I saw that I wasn't the only one who used that > method. > > [12:51] i've used my drivers license to scrape thin layers of > ice, and credit cards when I can't find my scraper... > > As I told Anthony, this was a great story and I thank him for sharing > it. > > Tara > > > On 16 Jun 2003 at 21:05, Michael Thompson wrote: > >> I believe a Credit Card makes an ideal scraper..not that I have ever had to >> put that into practice. Only one frost in my yard in near 20 years. ( Mind >> you living on a hill helps ) >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> at : "Jane ONeill" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 7:04 PM >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... >> >> >> hehehehe - dear Naive Queenslander, >> >> Winter morning routine (if you don't have a garage or a tree to park >> under) >> 1. jog outside and while taking photos of ice, frost, snow, turn car on >> and leave to idle for 5 - 10 minutes with demister on warm (hint - >> switch the air conditioner switch on - it'll be more efficient once the >> ice has melted and you have to contend with a fogged up windscreen) >> 2. finish getting dressed >> 3. take bucket of water with you that is barely warm (only just barely >> tepid with the chill taken off - or you'll crack the windscreen) >> 4. throw bucket of water over now pre-warmed windscreen and all windows, >> and then >> 5. turn wipers on to clear the slush after inserting self into now >> warmed car..... >> >> Shopping list: >> gloves and >> carport or >> garage or >> tarp slung between trees >> >> The novelty will wear off (probably by tomorrow) but the routine will >> remain.........Queanbeyan with mornings of -9°C and a manual V8 Ford >> without an automatic choke used to see me have to carefully place a >> housebrick on the accelerator to keep the car idling steadily for 10 >> minutes while I got dressed, and I never left the house without a bucket >> of tepid water...problem was, the engine was never even warm after 10 >> minutes of idling (so I drive and shivvvvvvered) and it was only a 3 >> minute drive to work so on most cold mornings I had to drive halfway to >> the airport and back again to bring the engine up to operating >> temperature before I turned it off at work. >> >> Welcome to winter!! (I'd forgotten how much fun that can be!!) >> >> -------------------------------- >> Jane ONeill - Melbourne >> cadence at australianskynweather.com >> >> Australian Sky & Weather >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com >> >> Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) >> http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> >> ***The journey is the reward*** >> -------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> at : "Anthony Cornelius" >> To: "Aus-wx" >> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM >> Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... >> >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the >>> only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a >>> minimum of -2.7C here this morning... >>> >>> This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." >>> >>> Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out >> for >>> everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a >>> service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be >> at >>> uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute >> cram.err..studying! >>> I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can >>> have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost and fog >>> photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the >>> temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, >>> going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I >>> ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have >>> to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow >> made >>> its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge >>> of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. >> I >>> forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did >>> the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled >>> around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced >>> that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many >>> times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the >>> heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite >> the >>> ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the >>> roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! >>> >>> http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg >>> >>> I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house.it >> had >>> a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. >> I >>> then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants and a >>> jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 >>> ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the >> house) >>> and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly getting >> VERY >>> painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall >>> off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater >>> before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. >>> >>> My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite >> thick.the >>> windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought.I >>> wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute >> preparation >>> before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to >>> grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane >> I >>> never had ice on my car like that before! >>> >>> http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg >>> >>> http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg >>> >>> Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days >>> ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the >>> windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second to work >>> out, something about not being able to see out the >>> windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> >>> http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg >>> >>> Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen >> water >>> could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had >> was >>> to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that did! >> I >>> SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion was to >>> turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I >>> thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of >>> course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was >>> sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew >>> numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into >> the >>> house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I >> grabbed >>> a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. >>> Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a >>> little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to >> see >>> through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of >>> the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know >>> how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want >>> much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the >> freezer, >>> and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) >>> >>> I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually >> began >>> to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling >> back >>> in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This >>> time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little >>> Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C.Laidley >>> looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had >>> planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to >> get >>> to Toowoomba in time! >>> >>> I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were sitting >>> there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on >>> their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at >> the >>> coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who >>> complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else >>> with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's >>> today too to pick up a new one. >>> >>> Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good >>> pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! >>> Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front >> of >>> a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only >> capable >>> of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! >> I >>> wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and >> tear >>> on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for >>> the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to >>> rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the >> brakes >>> at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight stretch >>> ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, nothing >>> to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car >>> as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade >>> thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to >>> pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed thankfully, >>> but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road >>> (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this time). >>> >>> The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped my car >>> off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving there at >>> 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am >>> (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my >>> body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing >> to >>> do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do >> some >>> last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be >>> open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire >>> alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out >> of >>> me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised >>> the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on a chair >>> in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to write I >> was >>> shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba >>> ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the >> building >>> until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. >>> The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our >> exam >>> room was broken too. >>> >>> In think I'll move to the tropics. >>> >>> (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear >>> before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) >>> >>> http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg >>> -- >>> Anthony Cornelius >>> Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the >>> Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) >>> 0417 759 304 >>> http://www.severeweather.asn.au >>> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>> To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail >> to:majordomo at world.std.com >>> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >> your >>> message. >>> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- >> -- >>> >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > This email is virus free. > Scanned before leaving mailbox with Norton Antivirus 2003 > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:40:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I just have to add my bit. Years ago when we were at Jindabyne the Manager of the Hotel told us to put several layers of Newspaper across the windscreen held down by the windscreen wipers and with some carefully folded around the wiper arms the wiper blades were protected as well. It worked like a charm, and no ice on the glass. Also we didn't run the risk of shredding the edge of the blades with the ice particles. Another hint was to leave the handbrake off as well, to save the cable snapping in the freezing cold. Also Anthony do you run your Subaru on Premium petrol, you will find it will go much more efficiently and end up costing you less in maintenance if you do. Both of ours have always used it, the young Outback and the Liberty which has now done just over 293,000 Kilometres. Our cars of course also, always have anti freeze in their radiators, also helps to stop overheating in summer. Judy Mayo ----- Original Message ----- at : "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Hi everyone, Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a minimum of -2.7C here this morning... This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out for everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be at uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute cram.err..studying! I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost and fog photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow made its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. I forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite the ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house.it had a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. I then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants and a jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the house) and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly getting VERY painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite thick.the windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought.I wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute preparation before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane I never had ice on my car like that before! http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second to work out, something about not being able to see out the windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen water could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had was to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that did! I SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion was to turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into the house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I grabbed a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to see through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the freezer, and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually began to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling back in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C.Laidley looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to get to Toowoomba in time! I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were sitting there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at the coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's today too to pick up a new one. Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front of a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only capable of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! I wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and tear on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the brakes at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight stretch ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, nothing to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed thankfully, but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this time). The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped my car off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving there at 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing to do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do some last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out of me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on a chair in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to write I was shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the building until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our exam room was broken too. In think I'll move to the tropics. (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) 0417 759 304 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: "aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: Lurking upper low. Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:17:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello all. Interesting upper system lurking around the head of the Bight, hiding behind the high pressure centre. Appears to be above the 500hpa level but is now showing some vorticity, I will take anything that will take my mind off this grandfather anticyclone, at least we are getting antycyclonic gloom with a bit of drizzle here in southern Vic..Regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:53:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dunno how good it is in actual operation but I know for a fact it's good with rain and repels the water without need for the wipers. Supposed to work with rain, fog and frost. It's called Rain-X and used to be available at K-mart. Big hint though. I drive a school bus that constantly fogs up on cold and wet days. DO NOT use it on the inside of the glass as it's the first part to fog up. I tried a small square on the left hand side bottom windscreen and its always the first to fog. Not too sure about frost though as I've never put it under the pump there. But it is brilliant with rain. Use at your discretion. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Dale Small" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:41 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > Hehe. > > Yesterday the only thing i could find quick enough to get the ice off > was.... *drumroll* ....... a credit card! > > $%!# amazing things they are. > A bit of shadecloth did the job last night, no scraping needed and the rest > of the ice on the car will fall off in transit. Now, just to get it started. > > P.S. A coolish 0.5 degrees in Jimboomba at present time (0541hrs) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:57:12 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hehe. > > Yesterday the only thing i could find quick enough to get the ice off > was.... *drumroll* ....... a credit card! > > $%!# amazing things they are. In the days before plastic drivers' licences Medicare cards were also used for this purpose (in Canberra at least). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain-x (Was: The Naive Queenslander...) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:47:45 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Bussy & all, Not only is rain-x great on your windshield & other *exterior* glass surfaces on your vehicle, eg. side windows, rear view mirrors, head lights, helmet visors (bike riders) etc. in the rain but it's also makes cleaning those surfaces of road grime, bug splats etc. soooo much easer! You'll be surprised what a difference it makes & even a lot of service stations that still give "full" drive through service will often comment or ask if your using rain-x on your vehicle if the attendance cleans your windshield :) > Big hint though. I drive a school bus that constantly fogs up on cold and > wet days. DO NOT use it on the inside of the glass as it's the first part > to fog up. I tried a small square on the left hand side bottom windscreen and > its always the first to fog. The original rain-x product was only for exterior glass surfaces. There is also rain-x anti-fog for interior glass surfaces. rain-x web site: http://www.rainx.com/frame_auto_glass.htm Regs, Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- at : "Bussy" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:23 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > Dunno how good it is in actual operation but I know for a fact it's good > with rain and repels the water without need for the wipers. Supposed to work > with rain, fog and frost. It's called Rain-X and used to be available at > K-mart. > Big hint though. I drive a school bus that constantly fogs up on cold and > wet days. DO NOT use it on the inside of the glass as it's the first part to > fog up. I tried a small square on the left hand side bottom windscreen and > its always the first to fog. > Not too sure about frost though as I've never put it under the pump there. > But it is brilliant with rain. Use at your discretion. > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Dale Small" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:41 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > Hehe. > > > > Yesterday the only thing i could find quick enough to get the ice off > > was.... *drumroll* ....... a credit card! > > > > $%!# amazing things they are. > > A bit of shadecloth did the job last night, no scraping needed and the > rest > > of the ice on the car will fall off in transit. Now, just to get it > started. > > > > P.S. A coolish 0.5 degrees in Jimboomba at present time (0541hrs) > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lurking upper low. Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:11:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've also been watching this one. Hoping for a not-so-unusual June rain event (the high moving to Tassie) but at this stage I'm not convinced it will, until after a cold front comes up ahead of it..by then the upper low should have moved on.... ----- Original Message ----- at : "Clyve Herbert" To: "aussie weather" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:17 PM Subject: aus-wx: Lurking upper low. > Hello all. > > Interesting upper system lurking around the head of the Bight, hiding behind > the high pressure centre. Appears to be above the 500hpa level but is now > showing some vorticity, I will take anything that will take my mind off this > grandfather anticyclone, at least we are getting antycyclonic gloom with a > bit of drizzle here in southern Vic..Regards Clyve H. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:18:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ahhhh the Canberra Weather. Hmmm how I hate still wearing shorts and singlet this time of year down the coast. Think I will have to move back to the ACT........not A a more serious note though, isn't amusing how we long whatever we choose to be a nice climate but truth is once you move there the body seems to adjust after a couple of years to the point where we fit in like the locals. As in I am wearing summer clothes here and the locals are in jumpers etc. In 12 months I assume I will be too. Regards, Peter ************************************* Check the weather at www.beach-bum-solutions.com/nfweather.htm Beach Bum Solutions Mystery Bay NSW Aus ************************************ -----Original Message----- at : Gavin O'Brien [mailto:mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 17 June 2003 8:22 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Anthony, quite amusing at a cold Canberra.The other morning I put the car out of garage about 20 minutes before going to school only to find with -3, Windscreen had frozen up .Silly me used the washer and wipers and guesss what ICE!! Took 5 minutes of full blast heater demister to clear ice.You would think after 25 years in the National Capital I would hve learned!What a rush to school ensured-just in time for period 1! I believe that luke warm water is useful NOT HOT ---it will crack the windscreen! Gavin Canberra > at : "Phil Smith" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... >Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:18:09 +0800 > >A very good report Anthony. >The last report of 0 degrees C here was well over 100 years ago, so I >haven't had to deal with a frosted windscreen since years before I left >Oz. I always used the credit card trick which others have mentioned. >Back in those days a drivers licence, which someone mentioned, was >always a bloody great sheet of paper which always fell apart along the >folds before you got your new licence, so it was no use at all on the >iced windscreen back then. > >Phil ><>< > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk >MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > >-----Original Message----- > at : Anthony Cornelius >To: Aus-wx >Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:39:16 +1000 >Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out for > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be at > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute cram...err..studying! > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress...even take some frost and fog > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow > > made > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. I > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did > > the search...found it! But wait... "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite > > the > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house...it > > had > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. I > > then went and checked my car...of course, all I had were pants and a > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the > > house) > > and thought "oh sh..." after realising my feet were suddenly getting VERY > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall > > off...) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite thick...the > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought...I > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > > preparation > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane > > I > > never had ice on my car like that before! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > > windscreen..."Hmm...something isn't right here" - it took a second to work > > out, something about not being able to see out the > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen > > water > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had > > was > > to flick the windscreen wipers on...well, a fine lot of good that did! I > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods...her suggestion was to > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into > > the > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I > > grabbed > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to see > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > > freezer, > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually > > began > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling back > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C...Laidley > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to get > > to Toowoomba in time! > > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley...lots of people were sitting > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at the > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else > > with a kitchen spatula too...I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > > today too to pick up a new one... > > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good > > pace I'll be on time...everything should be right now! Erm...no!!! > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front of > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only capable > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! > > I > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and tear > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the > > brakes > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake...a nice straight stretch > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h...so I overtook...easy, nothing > > to it...except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to > > pull over and check the car for damage...none that I noticed thankfully, > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road > > (which once again got overtaken...thankfully no animals this time). > > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on...I dropped my car > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni...arriving there at > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing to > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do some > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be > > open...it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out of > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate...this time sitting on a chair > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind...it was impossible to write I was > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba > > ended up at uni...they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the building > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our exam > > room was broken too... > > > > In think I'll move to the tropics... > > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > 0417 759 304 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain-x (Was: The Naive Queenslander...) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:19:07 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com To easily clean in-ground bugs etc at the front of your vehicle and windscreen then add some Bi-Carb soda to a warm bucket of water and watch it easily rip the bugs/guts away. Then wash as normal. Sorry for the off-topic post but it is a very handy tip and will not damage your paint work etc. Also good for cleaning Battery terminals etc, especially now winter is here and batteries are severely tested. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 7:17 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain-x (Was: The Naive Queenslander...) > Hi Bussy & all, > > Not only is rain-x great on your windshield & other *exterior* glass > surfaces > on your vehicle, eg. side windows, rear view mirrors, head lights, helmet > visors (bike riders) etc. in the rain but it's also makes cleaning those > surfaces of road grime, bug splats etc. soooo much easer! You'll be > surprised what a difference it makes & even a lot of service stations that > still give "full" drive through service will often comment or ask if your > using rain-x on your vehicle if the attendance cleans your windshield :) > > > > Big hint though. I drive a school bus that constantly fogs up on cold and > > wet days. DO NOT use it on the inside of the glass as it's the first part > > to fog up. I tried a small square on the left hand side bottom windscreen > and > > its always the first to fog. > > > The original rain-x product was only for exterior glass surfaces. > There is also rain-x anti-fog for interior glass surfaces. > > rain-x web site: http://www.rainx.com/frame_auto_glass.htm > > Regs, Paul. > (Stargazer) > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Bussy" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:23 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > Dunno how good it is in actual operation but I know for a fact it's good > > with rain and repels the water without need for the wipers. Supposed to > work > > with rain, fog and frost. It's called Rain-X and used to be available at > > K-mart. > > Big hint though. I drive a school bus that constantly fogs up on cold and > > wet days. DO NOT use it on the inside of the glass as it's the first part > to > > fog up. I tried a small square on the left hand side bottom windscreen and > > its always the first to fog. > > Not too sure about frost though as I've never put it under the pump there. > > But it is brilliant with rain. Use at your discretion. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > at : "Dale Small" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:41 AM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > > > > Hehe. > > > > > > Yesterday the only thing i could find quick enough to get the ice off > > > was.... *drumroll* ....... a credit card! > > > > > > $%!# amazing things they are. > > > A bit of shadecloth did the job last night, no scraping needed and the > > rest > > > of the ice on the car will fall off in transit. Now, just to get it > > started. > > > > > > P.S. A coolish 0.5 degrees in Jimboomba at present time (0541hrs) > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.207.12] X-Originating-Email: [mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] at : "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:21:46 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jun 2003 10:21:46.0368 (UTC) FILETIME=[417B8000:01C334BA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anthony, quite amusing at a cold Canberra.The other morning I put the car out of garage about 20 minutes before going to school only to find with -3, Windscreen had frozen up .Silly me used the washer and wipers and guesss what ICE!! Took 5 minutes of full blast heater demister to clear ice.You would think after 25 years in the National Capital I would hve learned!What a rush to school ensured-just in time for period 1! I believe that luke warm water is useful NOT HOT ---it will crack the windscreen! Gavin Canberra > at : "Phil Smith" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... >Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:18:09 +0800 > >A very good report Anthony. >The last report of 0 degrees C here was well over 100 years ago, so I >haven't had to deal with a frosted windscreen since years before I left >Oz. I always used the credit card trick which others have mentioned. >Back in those days a drivers licence, which someone mentioned, was >always a bloody great sheet of paper which always fell apart along the >folds before you got your new licence, so it was no use at all on the >iced windscreen back then. > >Phil ><>< > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk >MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > >-----Original Message----- > at : Anthony Cornelius >To: Aus-wx >Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:39:16 +1000 >Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out for > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be at > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute cram…err..studying! > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress…even take some frost and fog > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow > > made > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. I > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did > > the search…found it! But wait… "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite > > the > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house…it > > had > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. I > > then went and checked my car…of course, all I had were pants and a > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the > > house) > > and thought "oh sh…" after realising my feet were suddenly getting VERY > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall > > off…) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite thick…the > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought…I > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > > preparation > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane > > I > > never had ice on my car like that before! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > > windscreen…"Hmm…something isn't right here" - it took a second to work > > out, something about not being able to see out the > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen > > water > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had > > was > > to flick the windscreen wipers on…well, a fine lot of good that did! I > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods…her suggestion was to > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into > > the > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I > > grabbed > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to see > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > > freezer, > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually > > began > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling back > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C…Laidley > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to get > > to Toowoomba in time! > > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley…lots of people were sitting > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at the > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else > > with a kitchen spatula too…I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > > today too to pick up a new one… > > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good > > pace I'll be on time…everything should be right now! Erm…no!!! > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front of > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only capable > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! > > I > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and tear > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the > > brakes > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake…a nice straight stretch > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h…so I overtook…easy, nothing > > to it…except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to > > pull over and check the car for damage…none that I noticed thankfully, > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road > > (which once again got overtaken…thankfully no animals this time). > > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on…I dropped my car > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni…arriving there at > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing to > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do some > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be > > open…it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out of > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate…this time sitting on a chair > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind…it was impossible to write I was > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba > > ended up at uni…they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the building > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our exam > > room was broken too… > > > > In think I'll move to the tropics… > > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > 0417 759 304 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: A question Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:26:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Maybe is it is only this patch of the woods but I don't think I'm out of "drought" mode as yet and have only had 132mm here for the year. Anyone else still well below what they should be? Many areas would be well above I'd imagine. We get a little sprinkle here and the water lays on the ground. Maybe the ground is too hard to absorb it :-) Bussy (Rutherglen, NE Victoria) ========================================== (In and Out going Mail scanned by Norton Anti-Virus) ========================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:42:27 +1000 at : Tim Eckert Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lurking upper low. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Been watching it with interest here in SA. For the last 3 or 4 days now we have woken up to foggy and drizzly skies, not clearing until lunchtime and then moving in again by 5pm.... not expected to change much either for the next 3 or 4 days except the upper low should enhance the drizzly showers tomorrow and thursday to a light to moderate shower... before it moves NE to NSW. Rather depressing weather really. :( Tim. ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:11:36 +1000 > at : "Keith Barnett" >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lurking upper low. >To: > >I've also been watching this one. Hoping for a not-so- unusual June rain >event (the high moving to Tassie) but at this stage I'm not convinced it >will, until after a cold front comes up ahead of it..by then the upper low >should have moved on.... >----- Original Message ----- > at : "Clyve Herbert" >To: "aussie weather" >Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:17 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Lurking upper low. > > >> Hello all. >> >> Interesting upper system lurking around the head of the Bight, hiding >behind >> the high pressure centre. Appears to be above the 500hpa level but is now >> showing some vorticity, I will take anything that will take my mind off >this >> grandfather anticyclone, at least we are getting antycyclonic gloom with a >> bit of drizzle here in southern Vic..Regards Clyve H. >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------- ----------------- >> > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------- -------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:02:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I remember having to go home one afternoon in Darwin and put a jumper on because it was so cold....at 32°C, and I remember going out to get the paper when I was a kid in Canberra in the frost wearing a summer dress and bare feet........ -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- at : "Peter May" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:18 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > Ahhhh the Canberra Weather. Hmmm how I hate still wearing shorts and singlet > this time of year down the coast. Think I will have to move back to the > ACT........not > > > > A a more serious note though, isn't amusing how we long whatever we choose > to be a nice climate but truth is once you move there the body seems to > adjust after a couple of years to the point where we fit in like the locals. > As in I am wearing summer clothes here and the locals are in jumpers etc. In > 12 months I assume I will be too. > > Regards, Peter > > > > > > > > > ************************************* > Check the weather at > www.beach-bum-solutions.com/nfweather.htm > Beach Bum Solutions > Mystery Bay NSW Aus > ************************************ > > > -----Original Message----- > at : Gavin O'Brien [mailto:mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 17 June 2003 8:22 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > Anthony, > quite amusing at a cold Canberra.The other morning I put the car out of > garage about 20 minutes before going to school only to find with -3, > Windscreen had frozen up .Silly me used the washer and wipers and guesss > what ICE!! Took 5 minutes of full blast heater demister to clear ice.You > would think after 25 years in the National Capital I would hve learned!What > a rush to school ensured-just in time for period 1! > I believe that luke warm water is useful NOT HOT ---it will crack the > windscreen! > Gavin Canberra > > > > at : "Phil Smith" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > >Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:18:09 +0800 > > > >A very good report Anthony. > >The last report of 0 degrees C here was well over 100 years ago, so I > >haven't had to deal with a frosted windscreen since years before I left > >Oz. I always used the credit card trick which others have mentioned. > >Back in those days a drivers licence, which someone mentioned, was > >always a bloody great sheet of paper which always fell apart along the > >folds before you got your new licence, so it was no use at all on the > >iced windscreen back then. > > > >Phil > ><>< > > > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > >MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > at : Anthony Cornelius > >To: Aus-wx > >Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:39:16 +1000 > >Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > > > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > > > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out for > > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a > > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be at > > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute > cram...err..studying! > > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress...even take some frost and fog > > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, > > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I > > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have > > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow > > > made > > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge > > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. I > > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did > > > the search...found it! But wait... "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I > fiddled > > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the > > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite > > > the > > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the > > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > > > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house...it > > > had > > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. I > > > then went and checked my car...of course, all I had were pants and a > > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the > > > house) > > > and thought "oh sh..." after realising my feet were suddenly getting > VERY > > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall > > > off...) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > > > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite > thick...the > > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought...I > > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > > > preparation > > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to > > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane > > > I > > > never had ice on my car like that before! > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > > > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > > > windscreen..."Hmm...something isn't right here" - it took a second to > work > > > out, something about not being able to see out the > > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > > > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen > > > water > > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had > > > was > > > to flick the windscreen wipers on...well, a fine lot of good that did! > I > > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods...her suggestion was to > > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into > > > the > > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I > > > grabbed > > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to see > > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of > > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know > > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > > > freezer, > > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > > > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually > > > began > > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling back > > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This > > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C...Laidley > > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to get > > > to Toowoomba in time! > > > > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley...lots of people were sitting > > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on > > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at the > > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else > > > with a kitchen spatula too...I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > > > today too to pick up a new one... > > > > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good > > > pace I'll be on time...everything should be right now! Erm...no!!! > > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front of > > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only capable > > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! > > > I > > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and tear > > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for > > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the > > > brakes > > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake...a nice straight stretch > > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h...so I overtook...easy, > nothing > > > to it...except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car > > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade > > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to > > > pull over and check the car for damage...none that I noticed thankfully, > > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road > > > (which once again got overtaken...thankfully no animals this time). > > > > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on...I dropped my car > > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni...arriving there at > > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am > > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing to > > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do some > > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be > > > open...it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out of > > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised > > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate...this time sitting on a chair > > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind...it was impossible to write I > was > > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba > > > ended up at uni...they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the > building > > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our exam > > > room was broken too... > > > > > > In think I'll move to the tropics... > > > > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > > > -- > > > Anthony Cornelius > > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > > 0417 759 304 > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lurking upper low. Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:03:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tim and all, I'm not so sure that is where it will go - I'd keep an eye on it - it may do something unexpected...after all it's an upper level 'gypsy'........and it's been 'lurking'..... Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- at : "Tim Eckert" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:42 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lurking upper low. > Been watching it with interest here in SA. For the last 3 > or 4 days now we have woken up to foggy and drizzly > skies, not clearing until lunchtime and then moving in > again by 5pm.... not expected to change much either > for the next 3 or 4 days except the upper low should > enhance the drizzly showers tomorrow and thursday to > a light to moderate shower... before it moves NE to > NSW. Rather depressing weather really. :( > Tim. > > > ---- Original message ---- > >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:11:36 +1000 > > at : "Keith Barnett" > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lurking upper low. > >To: > > > >I've also been watching this one. Hoping for a not-so- > unusual June rain > >event (the high moving to Tassie) but at this stage > I'm not convinced it > >will, until after a cold front comes up ahead of it..by > then the upper low > >should have moved on.... > >----- Original Message ----- > > at : "Clyve Herbert" > >To: "aussie weather" weather at world.std.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:17 PM > >Subject: aus-wx: Lurking upper low. > > > > > >> Hello all. > >> > >> Interesting upper system lurking around the head > of the Bight, hiding > >behind > >> the high pressure centre. Appears to be above the > 500hpa level but is now > >> showing some vorticity, I will take anything that will > take my mind off > >this > >> grandfather anticyclone, at least we are getting > antycyclonic gloom with a > >> bit of drizzle here in southern Vic..Regards Clyve H. > >> > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > >> message. > >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------- > ----------------- > >> > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------- > -------------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:28:44 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lurking upper low. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:03 PM 17/06/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Tim and all, > >I'm not so sure that is where it will go - I'd keep an eye on it - it >may do something unexpected...after all it's an upper level >'gypsy'........and it's been 'lurking'..... Hmm, a gypsy low... could be interesting. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Paul Yole" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Lightning hitting trees Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 07:33:04 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey All, Sitting at home this evening and my mother kept opening the door and closing it to the fire, trying to get a log to burn. When I asked why she kept doing that, she said she was trying to get it to burn as it had been hit by lightning. Apparently, even my grandfather used to say that a tree that was hit by lightning wouldn't burn. Is this a myth or fact, and if fact, any explanation why? PaulY Paul Yole PH: (040) 921-9185 !!!NEW CELL NUMBER!!! email: pyole78 at yahoo.com.au AIM: pkyole02 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning hitting trees Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:42:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My father was a wood merchant. I was told the same thing and he wouldn't waste time cutting up a tree that had been hit by lightning.... Regards, Peter ************************************* Check the weather at www.beach-bum-solutions.com/nfweather.htm Beach Bum Solutions Mystery Bay NSW Aus ************************************ -----Original Message----- at : Paul Yole [mailto:pyole78 at yahoo.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 17 June 2003 9:33 PM To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Lightning hitting trees Hey All, Sitting at home this evening and my mother kept opening the door and closing it to the fire, trying to get a log to burn. When I asked why she kept doing that, she said she was trying to get it to burn as it had been hit by lightning. Apparently, even my grandfather used to say that a tree that was hit by lightning wouldn't burn. Is this a myth or fact, and if fact, any explanation why? PaulY Paul Yole PH: (040) 921-9185 !!!NEW CELL NUMBER!!! email: pyole78 at yahoo.com.au AIM: pkyole02 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: New radar - Newcastle. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 at : David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:53:35 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 6.0|September 26, 2002) at 18/06/2003 12:00:09 AM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI All. I guess some people have heard of a new wx radar to supersede the current Williamtown radar.. The new radar which will be called Newcastle radar has been installed at Lemon Tree Passage, approx 15 km at Williamtown.. The radar will be of same type as installed at Captains Flat in Canberra. I believe this radar will be going within the next 2 weeks. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning hitting trees Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:02:36 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Maybe an explanation here... ? http://zardoz1.topcities.com/weather/476410.htm http://www2b.abc.net.au/science/k2/stn/newposts/394/topic394122.shtm Regs, Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- at : "Peter May" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:12 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning hitting trees > My father was a wood merchant. I was told the same thing and he wouldn't > waste time cutting up a tree that had been hit by lightning.... > > > Regards, Peter > > > > > ************************************* > Check the weather at > www.beach-bum-solutions.com/nfweather.htm > Beach Bum Solutions > Mystery Bay NSW Aus > ************************************ > > > -----Original Message----- > at : Paul Yole [mailto:pyole78 at yahoo.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 17 June 2003 9:33 PM > To: Aussie Weather > Subject: aus-wx: Lightning hitting trees > > > Hey All, > > Sitting at home this evening and my mother kept opening the door and closing > it to the fire, trying to get a log to burn. When I asked why she kept doing > that, she said she was trying to get it to burn as it had been hit by > lightning. > > Apparently, even my grandfather used to say that a tree that was hit by > lightning wouldn't burn. Is this a myth or fact, and if fact, any > explanation why? > > PaulY > > Paul Yole > PH: (040) 921-9185 !!!NEW CELL NUMBER!!! > email: pyole78 at yahoo.com.au > AIM: pkyole02 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 05:44:35 +1000 at : Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lurking upper low. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Clyve, It almost appears to be part of a "cold cored" high pressure system. if that's the case, it'll probably move NE a little as the high pressure hugs the land. The high may have a tendnacy to lag over central Australia though (as they normally do in the colder months). This brings interesting implications for us canetoads and cockroaches! As chances are we'll see an easterly flow feeding into the advancing upper low as the main high (and subsequently, drier S-SW winds) lag westwards. Should result in some unseasonal storms and perhaps some rain too which would come in very handy for the farmers (including us!) AC Clyve Herbert wrote: > > Hello all. > > Interesting upper system lurking around the head of the Bight, hiding behind > the high pressure centre. Appears to be above the 500hpa level but is now > showing some vorticity, I will take anything that will take my mind off this > grandfather anticyclone, at least we are getting antycyclonic gloom with a > bit of drizzle here in southern Vic..Regards Clyve H. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) 0417 759 304 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 05:53:56 +1000 at : Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks for all the help at everyone! It amazes me how people live in the exceptionally cold climates! I live in the sub-tropics and have trouble... :) I've always kept coolant in the radiator (for some of the driving I do, especially while storm chasing that's an essential!) Also keep the wiper fluid stocked with cleaning agent too, I've heard that helps decrease the freezing point and also it works wonders on trying to get bugs off the windscreen! (As opposed to normal water). Re RainX - I use it sometimes (it can get expensive, if you go through a lot of rain it can wear off after a while), but it's absolutely BRILLIANT. It does rely on you to be moving though, but 10/10 for decreasing wiper usage and increasing visibility in rain! You'll need to re-apply it every 2-3 weeks or 3-4 rain hours. Re FogX - Another great thing...I use this a bit, but do NOT touch the windscreen! For some reason if you touch a FogX'd windscreen, it's almost a fog magnet! Re Subies - I use mostly ULP, but normally put in PULP every so often (especially if I'm going on a long journey or doing a lot of city driving). I get better milage generally, although the difference isn't as noticable on the highway (ie it's best for reducing fuel consumption if you do a lot of accelerating...at least that's what I found). 293k is a good wicket! Hopefully no problems, I need my Subie to last a long time (it's done 76k and is only 15 months old!) The drawbacks of loving travelling/stormchasing and thinking of 400km as a "short chase..." AC Gavin O'Brien wrote: > > Anthony, > quite amusing at a cold Canberra.The other morning I put the car out of > garage about 20 minutes before going to school only to find with -3, > Windscreen had frozen up .Silly me used the washer and wipers and guesss > what ICE!! Took 5 minutes of full blast heater demister to clear ice.You > would think after 25 years in the National Capital I would hve learned!What > a rush to school ensured-just in time for period 1! > I believe that luke warm water is useful NOT HOT ---it will crack the > windscreen! > Gavin Canberra > > > at : "Phil Smith" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > >Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:18:09 +0800 > > > >A very good report Anthony. > >The last report of 0 degrees C here was well over 100 years ago, so I > >haven't had to deal with a frosted windscreen since years before I left > >Oz. I always used the credit card trick which others have mentioned. > >Back in those days a drivers licence, which someone mentioned, was > >always a bloody great sheet of paper which always fell apart along the > >folds before you got your new licence, so it was no use at all on the > >iced windscreen back then. > > > >Phil > ><>< > > > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > >MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > at : Anthony Cornelius > >To: Aus-wx > >Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:39:16 +1000 > >Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > > > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > > > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out for > > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a > > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be at > > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute cram…err..studying! > > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress…even take some frost and fog > > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, > > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I > > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have > > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow > > > made > > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge > > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. I > > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did > > > the search…found it! But wait… "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled > > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the > > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite > > > the > > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the > > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > > > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house…it > > > had > > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. I > > > then went and checked my car…of course, all I had were pants and a > > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the > > > house) > > > and thought "oh sh…" after realising my feet were suddenly getting VERY > > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall > > > off…) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > > > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite thick…the > > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought…I > > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > > > preparation > > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to > > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane > > > I > > > never had ice on my car like that before! > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > > > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > > > windscreen…"Hmm…something isn't right here" - it took a second to work > > > out, something about not being able to see out the > > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > > > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen > > > water > > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had > > > was > > > to flick the windscreen wipers on…well, a fine lot of good that did! I > > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods…her suggestion was to > > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into > > > the > > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I > > > grabbed > > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to see > > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of > > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know > > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > > > freezer, > > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > > > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually > > > began > > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling back > > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This > > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C…Laidley > > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to get > > > to Toowoomba in time! > > > > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley…lots of people were sitting > > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on > > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at the > > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else > > > with a kitchen spatula too…I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > > > today too to pick up a new one… > > > > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good > > > pace I'll be on time…everything should be right now! Erm…no!!! > > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front of > > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only capable > > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! > > > I > > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and tear > > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for > > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the > > > brakes > > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake…a nice straight stretch > > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h…so I overtook…easy, nothing > > > to it…except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car > > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade > > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to > > > pull over and check the car for damage…none that I noticed thankfully, > > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road > > > (which once again got overtaken…thankfully no animals this time). > > > > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on…I dropped my car > > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni…arriving there at > > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am > > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing to > > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do some > > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be > > > open…it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out of > > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised > > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate…this time sitting on a chair > > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind…it was impossible to write I was > > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba > > > ended up at uni…they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the building > > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our exam > > > room was broken too… > > > > > > In think I'll move to the tropics… > > > > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > > > -- > > > Anthony Cornelius > > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > > 0417 759 304 > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) 0417 759 304 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning hitting trees Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:51:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just a theory. Maybe because of the lightning hit that it was partly burnt to start with. Just guessing. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Paul Yole" To: "Aussie Weather" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: aus-wx: Lightning hitting trees > Hey All, > > Sitting at home this evening and my mother kept opening the door and closing > it to the fire, trying to get a log to burn. When I asked why she kept doing > that, she said she was trying to get it to burn as it had been hit by > lightning. > > Apparently, even my grandfather used to say that a tree that was hit by > lightning wouldn't burn. Is this a myth or fact, and if fact, any > explanation why? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lurking upper low. Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:01:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Supercell. I always like the appearance of unusual upper systems, they keep you on your toes so to speak. This is the third strong blocking high since April and slow moving highs like this tend to go two ways (most of the time) . They cause a blocking (traffic jam to approaching mid lat systems) set up over the Australian region which then evolve either towards a zonal tendancy or a meridional development. With the zonal trend the high cell weakens and moves north allowing zonal westerly systems to affect southern Aus. If the high ramains strong long enough there seems to be a trend towards meridional aspects with a progress towards cut off's and an apperance of slow moving upper cold pools. Under the meridional set up high cells may move to high lat under developing upper cut off systems, another branch of meridional tendancy is for the high to throw a ridge towards the southwest and retrograde eventually becoming elongated with a strong polar surge developing on the eastern flank. As I said its good trying to work out the potential of the synoptic set up like today. I have noticed that models have some difficulty choosing the prefered trend in these conditions.......regards Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Anthony Cornelius" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 5:44 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lurking upper low. > Hi Clyve, > > It almost appears to be part of a "cold cored" high pressure system. if > that's the case, it'll probably move NE a little as the high pressure > hugs the land. The high may have a tendnacy to lag over central > Australia though (as they normally do in the colder months). This > brings interesting implications for us canetoads and cockroaches! As > chances are we'll see an easterly flow feeding into the advancing upper > low as the main high (and subsequently, drier S-SW winds) lag westwards. > > Should result in some unseasonal storms and perhaps some rain too which > would come in very handy for the farmers (including us!) > > AC > > Clyve Herbert wrote: > > > > Hello all. > > > > Interesting upper system lurking around the head of the Bight, hiding behind > > the high pressure centre. Appears to be above the 500hpa level but is now > > showing some vorticity, I will take anything that will take my mind off this > > grandfather anticyclone, at least we are getting antycyclonic gloom with a > > bit of drizzle here in southern Vic..Regards Clyve H. > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > 0417 759 304 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [61.9.128.174] X-Originating-Email: [gashband at hotmail.com] at : "Liam Domanski" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning hitting trees Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:15:49 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2003 03:15:50.0037 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB229C50:01C33547] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com An urban myth. ANYTHING will burn given the right temperature. Metal, glass, sand, rock, asbestos etc You name it, it'll burn The only things that would cause the wood not to burn easily are if it was wet, or as Bussy said, had a coating of charcoal, which acts as an isulator against heat, and does not allow the wood to heat up sufficiently to release vapours (it's the vapours that burn, not the wood). But get the fire hot enough, and it will for sure. I've seen it many times after putting out house fires (I'm with the CFA). The roof trusses get charred, but do not burn through, making the house still structuarlly sound. Liam > at : "Bussy" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning hitting trees >Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:51:08 +1000 > >Just a theory. Maybe because of the lightning hit that it was partly burnt >to start with. Just guessing. >----- Original Message ----- > at : "Paul Yole" >To: "Aussie Weather" >Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:33 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Lightning hitting trees > > > > Hey All, > > > > Sitting at home this evening and my mother kept opening the door and >closing > > it to the fire, trying to get a log to burn. When I asked why she kept >doing > > that, she said she was trying to get it to burn as it had been hit by > > lightning. > > > > Apparently, even my grandfather used to say that a tree that was hit by > > lightning wouldn't burn. Is this a myth or fact, and if fact, any > > explanation why? > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.11.188.13] X-Originating-Email: [kjphyland at hotmail.com] at : "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: A question Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:09:14 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2003 05:09:15.0157 (UTC) FILETIME=[C34D8450:01C33557] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Bussy, Still under 100mm for the year here (96mm to be precise). No sign of any immediate change in the pattern either... Cheers, Kevin at Wycheproof. > at : "Bussy" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: "aussie-weather" >Subject: aus-wx: A question >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:26:25 +1000 > >Maybe is it is only this patch of the woods but I don't think I'm out of >"drought" mode as yet and have only had 132mm here for the year. Anyone >else >still well below what they should be? >Many areas would be well above I'd imagine. >We get a little sprinkle here and the water lays on the ground. Maybe the >ground is too hard to absorb it :-) > >Bussy (Rutherglen, NE Victoria) >========================================== >(In and Out going Mail scanned by Norton Anti-Virus) >========================================== > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:18:23 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: A question X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I wish we could share around some of the rain we get here. Several times recently more than 150mm at a single shower and the other month we had over 400mm between midnight and 10:00. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:09:14 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: A question > Hi Bussy, > > Still under 100mm for the year here (96mm to be precise). No sign of > any > immediate change in the pattern either... > > Cheers, > Kevin at Wycheproof. > > > at : "Bussy" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: "aussie-weather" > >Subject: aus-wx: A question > >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:26:25 +1000 > > > >Maybe is it is only this patch of the woods but I don't think I'm out > of > >"drought" mode as yet and have only had 132mm here for the year. > Anyone > >else > >still well below what they should be? > >Many areas would be well above I'd imagine. > >We get a little sprinkle here and the water lays on the ground. Maybe > the > >ground is too hard to absorb it :-) > > > >Bussy (Rutherglen, NE Victoria) > >========================================== > >(In and Out going Mail scanned by Norton Anti-Virus) > >========================================== > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get mobile Hotmail. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: A question Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:40:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Phil, Just looked at the web cam of Hong Kong harbour, time of picture 13.34 Wednesday. The buildings are almost obliterated. Is it rain or fog, or smog. We have actually been looking at it daily for a couple of weeks and the scene never really changes at dull overcast, only difference is very occassionally we can see the buildings. Doesn't the sun shine in Hong Kong any more. Judy ----- Original Message ----- at : "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: A question > I wish we could share around some of the rain we get here. Several > times recently more than 150mm at a single shower and the other month > we had over 400mm between midnight and 10:00. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > at : "Kevin Phyland" > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:09:14 +1000 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: A question > > > Hi Bussy, > > > > Still under 100mm for the year here (96mm to be precise). No sign of > > any > > immediate change in the pattern either... > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin at Wycheproof. > > > > > at : "Bussy" > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > >To: "aussie-weather" > > >Subject: aus-wx: A question > > >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:26:25 +1000 > > > > > >Maybe is it is only this patch of the woods but I don't think I'm out > > of > > >"drought" mode as yet and have only had 132mm here for the year. > > Anyone > > >else > > >still well below what they should be? > > >Many areas would be well above I'd imagine. > > >We get a little sprinkle here and the water lays on the ground. Maybe > > the > > >ground is too hard to absorb it :-) > > > > > >Bussy (Rutherglen, NE Victoria) > > >========================================== > > >(In and Out going Mail scanned by Norton Anti-Virus) > > >========================================== > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get mobile Hotmail. Go to > > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:37:39 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: A question X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We have had a "trough of low pressure" bringing day after day of rain and thunderstorms for about a fortnight. Our summer is always gloomy and grey and wet at about April or May through to about September or October. At the moment on the webcam (timestamp 15:14) one can barely see the tall building in Kowloon on the right hand side and one can certainly not see any buildings on Hong Kong Island. However, this is classified as the first "fine" day for weeks. There has been no rain recorded today. Therefore the murk is all due to air pollution, most of which has blown across the border at Shen Zhen. Here in Fo Tan, looking out the window, the pollution is limiting visibility to less than 2000 metres - I can't see the hills at all. The sun is a dim disc shining weakly through the gloom. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : "Adam Mayo" To: Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:40:27 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: A question > Hi Phil, > > Just looked at the web cam of Hong Kong harbour, time of picture 13.34 > Wednesday. The buildings are almost obliterated. Is it rain or fog, > or > smog. We have actually been looking at it daily for a couple of weeks > and > the scene never really changes at dull overcast, only difference is > very > occassionally we can see the buildings. Doesn't the sun shine in Hong > Kong > any more. > Judy > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:18 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: A question > > > > I wish we could share around some of the rain we get here. Several > > times recently more than 150mm at a single shower and the other > month > > we had over 400mm between midnight and 10:00. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > at : "Kevin Phyland" > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:09:14 +1000 > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: A question > > > > > Hi Bussy, > > > > > > Still under 100mm for the year here (96mm to be precise). No sign > of > > > any > > > immediate change in the pattern either... > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Kevin at Wycheproof. > > > > > > > at : "Bussy" > > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > >To: "aussie-weather" > > > >Subject: aus-wx: A question > > > >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:26:25 +1000 > > > > > > > >Maybe is it is only this patch of the woods but I don't think I'm > out > > > of > > > >"drought" mode as yet and have only had 132mm here for the year. > > > Anyone > > > >else > > > >still well below what they should be? > > > >Many areas would be well above I'd imagine. > > > >We get a little sprinkle here and the water lays on the ground. > Maybe > > > the > > > >ground is too hard to absorb it :-) > > > > > > > >Bussy (Rutherglen, NE Victoria) > > > >========================================== > > > >(In and Out going Mail scanned by Norton Anti-Virus) > > > >========================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get mobile Hotmail. Go to > > > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Robert M" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Webcam`s and webcam software X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 203.134.94.68 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 04:09:31 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - neptune.hiddenservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [1875 1885] / [1875 1885] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - neptune.hiddenservers.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Well now that i have one computer with Windows 98SE and the other computer has Windows XP Pro. I have a digital camera which i can use as a web cam but what software do people use for there webcams? Cheers. --------------------------- Nick name: Weathernut Real name: Robert M Web site: http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com Email: weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com --------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 21:20:50 +1000 at : Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aus-wx Subject: aus-wx: Toowoomba Sunset Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, The clearing cloud band gave a nice sunset this afternoon at uni! Excuse the poor quality, it was shot hand held at 1/10...but they didn't come out too badly for such a slow shutter speed without a tripod... http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/18-06-03-01.jpg and http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/18-06-03-02.jpg -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) 0417 759 304 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Toowoomba Sunset Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 21:32:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anthony, on the contrary (and maybe I'm a poor judge), I think the quality is such that you should seriously enter them for a weather calendar, maybe even the BoM's. Isn't nature marvellous? Keith Barnett Weather fanatic and classical musician Website: http://www.wthrman.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- This message ,and any attachments, has been scanned by the latest version of Norton AntiVirus and is certified to be virus free. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:20 PM Subject: aus-wx: Toowoomba Sunset > Hi Everyone, > > The clearing cloud band gave a nice sunset this afternoon at uni! > Excuse the poor quality, it was shot hand held at 1/10...but they didn't > come out too badly for such a slow shutter speed without a tripod... > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/18-06-03-01.jpg > > and > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/18-06-03-02.jpg > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > 0417 759 304 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Robert M" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Webcam`s and webcam software X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 203.134.94.116 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:50:33 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - neptune.hiddenservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [1875 1885] / [1875 1885] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - neptune.hiddenservers.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Well now that i have one computer with Windows 98SE and the other computer has Windows XP Pro. I have a digital camera which i can use as a web cam but what software do people use for there webcams? Cheers. --------------------------- Nick name: Weathernut Real name: Robert M Web site: http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com Email: weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com --------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Robert M" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Toowoomba Sunset X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 203.134.94.116 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:55:57 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - neptune.hiddenservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [1875 1885] / [1875 1885] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - neptune.hiddenservers.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I agree with you Keith... Anthony you pic`s are very nice. Do you mind if i have it as a wallpaper on my computer?. --------------------------- Nick name: Weathernut Real name: Robert M Web site: http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com Email: weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com --------------------------- > Anthony, on the contrary (and maybe I'm a poor judge), I think the quality > is such that you should seriously enter them for a weather calendar, maybe > even the BoM's. > Isn't nature marvellous? > > Keith Barnett > Weather fanatic and classical musician > Website: http://www.wthrman.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > ----------------------------------------------- > This message ,and any attachments, has been scanned by the latest version of > Norton AntiVirus and is certified to be virus free. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Anthony Cornelius" > To: "Aus-wx" > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:20 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Toowoomba Sunset > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > The clearing cloud band gave a nice sunset this afternoon at uni! > > Excuse the poor quality, it was shot hand held at 1/10...but they didn't > > come out too badly for such a slow shutter speed without a tripod... > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/18-06-03-01.jpg > > > > and > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/18-06-03-02.jpg > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > 0417 759 304 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------- ----- > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- --- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Steve Baynham" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Webcam`s and webcam software Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:18:09 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
robert,
freeware versions of kabcam or webcam32 are on the net and will do the job. thats what i've been using. i use my digital cam into capture card then use one of those programs. you will probably find numerous webcam software on the net that will all be fairly similar. most will have quirks until you pay money to register it, its just a matter of if you can put up with them. well i hope i have been help for you or someone else
cyas
 
 
Steve Baynham
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Brisbane Storm Chasers
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http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 
----- Original Message -----
at : Robert M
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:50 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Webcam`s and webcam software

Hi all.
Well now that i have one computer with Windows 98SE and the other
computer has Windows XP Pro.
I have a digital camera which i can use as a web cam but what software
do people use for there webcams?
Cheers.
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Nick name: Weathernut

Real name: Robert M

Web site: http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com

Email: weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com
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at : "Robert M" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Webcam`s and webcam software X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 203.134.94.116 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:53:50 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - neptune.hiddenservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [1875 1885] / [1875 1885] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - neptune.hiddenservers.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > robert, > freeware versions of kabcam or webcam32 are on the net and will do the job. thats what i've been using. i use my digital cam into capture card then use one of those programs. you will probably find numerous webcam software on the net that will all be fairly similar. most will have quirks until you pay money to register it, its just a matter of if you can put up with them. well i hope i have been help for you or someone else > cyas > > > Steve Baynham > icq : 26863574 > > Brisbane Storm Chasers > http://www.bsch.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > Homepage > http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : Robert M > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:50 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Webcam`s and webcam software > > > Hi all. > Well now that i have one computer with Windows 98SE and the other > computer has Windows XP Pro. > I have a digital camera which i can use as a web cam but what software > do people use for there webcams? > Cheers. > --------------------------- > Nick name: Weathernut > > Real name: Robert M > > Web site: http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com > > Email: weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com > --------------------------- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------- ----- > > --------------------------- Nick name: Weathernut Real name: Robert M Web site: http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com Email: weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com --------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:42:14 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Finally have been able to get all of the photos online at the US trip David Croan and I undertook - mostly LP supercells in this album. Video stills and videos will come along later http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20030618.html http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd2003061802.html I hope people enjoy the storm structures as we did. By the way, LP supercells of these structures typically drop hail larger than golf balls. One of them at least dropped hail to base ball size over a reasonable path. Regards, Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher at Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:29:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jimmy. Some stunning shots here of an LP and welcome back to OZ. regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:42 PM Subject: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures > Hi, > > Finally have been able to get all of the photos online at the US trip > David Croan and I undertook - mostly LP supercells in this album. Video > stills and videos will come along later > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20030618.html > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd2003061802.ht ml > > I hope people enjoy the storm structures as we did. By the way, LP > supercells of these structures typically drop hail larger than golf balls. > One of them at least dropped hail to base ball size over a reasonable path. > > Regards, > > Jimmy Deguara > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > at > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Toowoomba Sunset Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:32:04 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Supercell. Geeeez! Some of the best sunset pics I have seen. Welcome to the world if digi cameras. regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:20 PM Subject: aus-wx: Toowoomba Sunset > Hi Everyone, > > The clearing cloud band gave a nice sunset this afternoon at uni! > Excuse the poor quality, it was shot hand held at 1/10...but they didn't > come out too badly for such a slow shutter speed without a tripod... > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/18-06-03-01.jpg > > and > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/18-06-03-02.jpg > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > 0417 759 304 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:34:26 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Clyve, Thanks for the welcome. Glad to be back and ready for the next Australian season. LP supercells are simple phenomenal to experience. Regards, Jimmy Deguara At 03:29 PM 19/6/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Jimmy. Some stunning shots here of an LP and welcome back to OZ. regards >Clyve H. >----- Original Message ----- > at : "Jimmy Deguara" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:42 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures > > > > Hi, > > > > Finally have been able to get all of the photos online at the US trip > > David Croan and I undertook - mostly LP supercells in this album. Video > > stills and videos will come along later > > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20030618.html > > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd2003061802.ht >ml > > > > I hope people enjoy the storm structures as we did. By the way, LP > > supercells of these structures typically drop hail larger than golf balls. > > One of them at least dropped hail to base ball size over a reasonable >path. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > at > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 19:26:13 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some awesome pics there. You can see why these storms produce such large hail. Lots of energy there. The LP type does not often produce tornadoes though ,I believe. Wide angle lenses are essential for photographing these storms, they look huge. Cheers Steven Williams ----- Original Message ----- at : "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:42 AM Subject: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures > Hi, > > Finally have been able to get all of the photos online at the US trip > David Croan and I undertook - mostly LP supercells in this album. Video > stills and videos will come along later > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20030618.html > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd2003061802.ht ml > > I hope people enjoy the storm structures as we did. By the way, LP > supercells of these structures typically drop hail larger than golf balls. > One of them at least dropped hail to base ball size over a reasonable path. > > Regards, > > Jimmy Deguara > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > at > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ XAntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses via the Connexus Internet Service at : "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Toowoomba Sunset Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:40:04 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi AC/Clyve Was a very nice sunset in Brissy too, just got a glance of an unbelievably magic view as I crossed the Centenary Hwy bridge and saw it perfectly framed and reflected in the still water of the westward reach of the Brisbane river, a few moored yatchs either side adding silhouette detail. Unfortunately, no where to stop and no digital camera to hand... :( :( :( John. >snip -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Clyve Herbert Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 3:32 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Toowoomba Sunset Hi Supercell. Geeeez! Some of the best sunset pics I have seen. Welcome to the world if digi cameras. regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:20 PM Subject: aus-wx: Toowoomba Sunset > Hi Everyone, > > The clearing cloud band gave a nice sunset this afternoon at uni! > Excuse the poor quality, it was shot hand held at 1/10...but they didn't > come out too badly for such a slow shutter speed without a tripod... > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/18-06-03-01.jpg > > and > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/18-06-03-02.jpg > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > 0417 759 304 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. 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X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 203.134.94.117 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 03:49:45 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - neptune.hiddenservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [1875 1885] / [1875 1885] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - neptune.hiddenservers.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yesterdays high 9.8c lastnights min 7.5c Todays high was a cold 8.6c Griffith NSW had a max of 10.1c which is 7c below the average. http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/gloom/ --------------------------- Nick name: Weathernut Real name: Robert M Web site: http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com Email: weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com --------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:28:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com absolutely stunning images Jimmy!!!!!! Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- at : "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:42 PM Subject: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures > Hi, > > Finally have been able to get all of the photos online at the US trip > David Croan and I undertook - mostly LP supercells in this album. Video > stills and videos will come along later > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20030618. html > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd200306180 2.html > > I hope people enjoy the storm structures as we did. By the way, LP > supercells of these structures typically drop hail larger than golf balls. > One of them at least dropped hail to base ball size over a reasonable path. > > Regards, > > Jimmy Deguara > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > at > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:33:35 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Very cold max`s and gloomy weather NSW and VIC. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 03:49 AM 19/06/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Yesterdays high 9.8c lastnights min 7.5c Todays high was a cold 8.6c >Griffith NSW had a max of 10.1c which is 7c below the average. It's been dreary and drizzly in Melbourne. Could be an interesting cold outbreak on Sunday. BoM are tipping 11 in Melbourne. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Paul Rands" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:56:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jimmy These look bloody fantastic ------------------------------------------------------ Paul Rands E-mail: prands at optusnet.com.au WWW: http://paulrands.vze.com/ ICQ: 137833127 / MSN: prands at optusnet.com.au -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 23:42 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures Hi, Finally have been able to get all of the photos online at the US trip David Croan and I undertook - mostly LP supercells in this album. Video stills and videos will come along later http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20030618. html http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd200306180 2.html I hope people enjoy the storm structures as we did. By the way, LP supercells of these structures typically drop hail larger than golf balls. One of them at least dropped hail to base ball size over a reasonable path. Regards, Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher at Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: "aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: Tropical moisture NT Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:12:26 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Yet another surge of tropical moisture off the north coast of the NT moving southeast. Seems to be between 700hpa and 500hpa under a strengthening sub tropical jet. regards Clyve H. Also the weak and very persistant 'lurking upper low is right over Lake Eyre this evening. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:40:58 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane and Steve, On top of what was suggested in previous e-mails, LP supercells are almost graceful to watch relatively quiet though watch out for the occasional lightning at the vault region. As to tornadoes, LP's can drop the odd tornadoes though as Chuck Doswell suggests, they are in the phase along the supercell spectrum towards the classic supercell by definition. And yes they do drop hailstones often without warning and at regions you may not suspect. Regards, Jimmy Deguara At 06:28 PM 19/6/2003 +1000, you wrote: >absolutely stunning images Jimmy!!!!!! > >Cheers, > >Jane > >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at australianskynweather.com > >Australian Sky & Weather >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >***The journey is the reward*** >-------------------------------- > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > at : "Jimmy Deguara" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:42 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures > > > > Hi, > > > > Finally have been able to get all of the photos online at the US >trip > > David Croan and I undertook - mostly LP supercells in this album. >Video > > stills and videos will come along later > > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20030618. >html > > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd200306180 >2.html > > > > I hope people enjoy the storm structures as we did. By the way, LP > > supercells of these structures typically drop hail larger than golf >balls. > > One of them at least dropped hail to base ball size over a reasonable >path. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - >http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > at > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- >-- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:26:28 +1000 at : Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jimmy... can you point us to photo of one which dropped b.bal hail?? Thanks don W Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > Hi, > > Finally have been able to get all of the photos online at the US trip > David Croan and I undertook - mostly LP supercells in this album. Video > stills and videos will come along later > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20030618.html > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd2003061802.html > > I hope people enjoy the storm structures as we did. By the way, LP > supercells of these structures typically drop hail larger than golf balls. > One of them at least dropped hail to base ball size over a reasonable path. > > Regards, > > Jimmy Deguara > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > at > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:48:55 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Don, http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0603jd13.jpg and photos around it were of the storm at the 3rd June 2003 http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0603jd17.jpg somewhere about this time I think I recall that the storm may have had measured hailstones to base ball size http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0603jd22.jpg I cannot tell you at what stage if they were being reported though the base ball hail warning continued right up to early night when it was obvious the storm had begun to weaken. Jimmy Deguara At 09:26 PM 19/6/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Jimmy... can you point us to photo of one which dropped b.bal hail?? >Thanks >don W > >Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Finally have been able to get all of the photos online at the US trip > > David Croan and I undertook - mostly LP supercells in this album. Video > > stills and videos will come along later > > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20030618.html > > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd2003061802.html > > > > I hope people enjoy the storm structures as we did. By the way, LP > > supercells of these structures typically drop hail larger than golf balls. > > One of them at least dropped hail to base ball size over a reasonable path. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > at > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Carolyn" To: "aussie weather \(aussie weather\)" Subject: aus-wx: Lochinvar weather station Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:49:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Thought you might be interested in this weather station at my eldest daughter's school.
However, I have just looked at the url and the website isn't working...so I will be letting the school know tomorrow, especially as the information has been published in The Newcastle Herald today!!!!!!!!
 
 
 
 
 
Date: 20 Jun 2003 03:02:44 -0000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: Re: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures at : "Mr Michael Brock" X-Mailer: Mr.Mail 0.5 X-Originating-IP: 203.59.95.86 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning Jimmy and all, They're GREAT pics Jim. Glad to see you had a good time over there as well. I'll catch up with ya when I get back at running around the country. Currently in Perth after spending some time in Darwin. Catch y'all soon :) Max -- Original Email ----- at : Jimmy Deguara To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: 19-Jun-2003 19:48 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest US trip pictures > Hi Don, > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0603jd13.jpg > > and photos around it were of the storm at the 3rd June 2003 > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0603jd17.jpg > > somewhere about this time I think I recall that the storm may have had > measured hailstones to base ball size > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0603jd22.jpg > > I cannot tell you at what stage if they were being reported though the base > ball hail warning continued right up to early night when it was obvious the > storm had begun to weaken. > > Jimmy Deguara > > > At 09:26 PM 19/6/2003 +1000, you wrote: > >Jimmy... can you point us to photo of one which dropped b.bal hail?? > >Thanks > >don W > > > >Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Finally have been able to get all of the photos online at the US trip > > > David Croan and I undertook - mostly LP supercells in this album. Video > > > stills and videos will come along later > > > > > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20030618.html > > > > > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd2003061802.html > > > > > > I hope people enjoy the storm structures as we did. By the way, LP > > > supercells of these structures typically drop hail larger than golf balls. > > > One of them at least dropped hail to base ball size over a reasonable path. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > > > at > > > Schofields, Sydney > > > NSW Australia > > > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Snow forecast Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:41:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI all. 
 
Not many people talking about possible snow falls occurring this weekend around Oberon area Sat/Sunday.  ANyone have more views about this.  Seems like snow ski areas have quite large falls to occur. Been reading Ski.com.au forums.
 
Lets hope we get more at this than previous weekend.
 
Dave
 
at : "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:33:41 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Aaaah. This assumes you can get into the car and get it started. My experience with cold weather and cars was earned during a cold spell in British Columbia, Canada, in a record cold December. 1. Overnight min approx -30C. Walking out of +20C hotel around sunrise is like walking into a vaporous block of dry ice. All the hair folicles in your nose freeze instantly, an alarming and unfamiliar experience that suddenly makes you feel you have a heavy cold. Insert key into driver's door. Try to turn. Nothing happens. Go back into hotel and get jug of hot water. Return to car and pour over keyhole. Immediate problem solved -- key turns in lock. Long Term Problem #1: Water in lock refreezes within 10 seconds and lock is inoperable until we reach lower latitudes. 2. Gain access to car. Turn ignition on to start. Engine turns ~45 degrees, then stops. Further attempts at starting produce not even a sound. The oil in the engine block has frozen. Try to push start down fairly steep hill: wheels lock on engaging 3rd gear and we slither to a halt. Friendly RAC Canada truck tows us 5km to generate the friction + heat needed to thaw the oil to allow engine to fire. Long Term Problem #2: Garage the vehicle in a heated garage overnight, or have an engine block heating accessory, otherwise the oil will be solid come morning. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Anthony > Cornelius > Sent: Monday, 16 June, 2003 10:21 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > Thanks Jane! > > I know now to head outside 10-15mins before I want to leave and turn the > car & heater on, by the time I come back it should all be defrosted (and > the car will be warmed up a little too!) No better teacher than > experience!!! > > Our garage is full of umm...junk 'n stuff - dad and I will be cleaning > it out after my exams are finished, so that will eventually end the ice > problem! It is still a bit of a novelty though! > > Clyve - yep! Same band, it became apparent this morning quite clearly, > interestingly it seemed to evaporate across the sky...thick to the NW > and it would thin out as it spread eastwards. Hopefully we get some > more high cloud tomorrow to throw another nice sunset! > > AC > > Jane ONeill wrote: > > > > hehehehe - dear Naive Queenslander, > > > > Winter morning routine (if you don't have a garage or a tree to park > > under) > > 1. jog outside and while taking photos of ice, frost, snow, turn car on > > and leave to idle for 5 - 10 minutes with demister on warm (hint - > > switch the air conditioner switch on - it'll be more efficient once the > > ice has melted and you have to contend with a fogged up windscreen) > > 2. finish getting dressed > > 3. take bucket of water with you that is barely warm (only just barely > > tepid with the chill taken off - or you'll crack the windscreen) > > 4. throw bucket of water over now pre-warmed windscreen and all windows, > > and then > > 5. turn wipers on to clear the slush after inserting self into now > > warmed car..... > > > > Shopping list: > > gloves and > > carport or > > garage or > > tarp slung between trees > > > > The novelty will wear off (probably by tomorrow) but the routine will > > remain.........Queanbeyan with mornings of -9°C and a manual V8 Ford > > without an automatic choke used to see me have to carefully place a > > housebrick on the accelerator to keep the car idling steadily for 10 > > minutes while I got dressed, and I never left the house without a bucket > > of tepid water...problem was, the engine was never even warm after 10 > > minutes of idling (so I drive and shivvvvvvered) and it was only a 3 > > minute drive to work so on most cold mornings I had to drive halfway to > > the airport and back again to bring the engine up to operating > > temperature before I turned it off at work. > > > > Welcome to winter!! (I'd forgotten how much fun that can be!!) > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > -------------------------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > at : "Anthony Cornelius" > > To: "Aus-wx" > > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > > > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > > > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out > > for > > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for a > > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be > > at > > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute > > cram.err..studying! > > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost and fog > > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling over, > > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), I > > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll have > > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow > > made > > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the edge > > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. > > I > > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and did > > > the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I fiddled > > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on the > > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite > > the > > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt the > > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > > > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house.it > > had > > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. > > I > > > then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants and a > > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the > > house) > > > and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly getting > > VERY > > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to fall > > > off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > > > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite > > thick.the > > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought.I > > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > > preparation > > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera to > > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of Brisbane > > I > > > never had ice on my car like that before! > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > > > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > > > windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second to work > > > out, something about not being able to see out the > > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > > > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen > > water > > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had > > was > > > to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that did! > > I > > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion was to > > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into > > the > > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I > > grabbed > > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to > > see > > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all of > > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't know > > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > > freezer, > > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > > > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually > > began > > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling > > back > > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. This > > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C.Laidley > > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to > > get > > > to Toowoomba in time! > > > > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were sitting > > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice on > > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at > > the > > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one else > > > with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > > > today too to pick up a new one. > > > > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make good > > > pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! > > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front > > of > > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only > > capable > > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair enough! > > I > > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and > > tear > > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait for > > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the > > brakes > > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight stretch > > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, nothing > > > to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the car > > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 grade > > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have to > > > pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed thankfully, > > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the road > > > (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this time). > > > > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped my car > > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving there at > > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to 9am > > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing > > to > > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do > > some > > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd be > > > open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out > > of > > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then realised > > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on a chair > > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to write I > > was > > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at Toowoomba > > > ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the > > building > > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our > > exam > > > room was broken too. > > > > > > In think I'll move to the tropics. > > > > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > > > -- > > > Anthony Cornelius > > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > > 0417 759 304 > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > -- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > 0417 759 304 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:52:20 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At Yarangobilly (Sp?) NSW one year (donkey's years ago now in the late sixties or early seventies) it was reportedly -12C. Many brand spanking new BMW motorbikes wouldn't turn over because of frozen oil. Solution? Gas cooking stoves under crankcases until engines would turn over. My elderly two-stroke motorbike and sidecar had no such problem - only petroil mixture in the crankcase so it couldn't freeze - just retarded the magneto a little, enriched the fuel-air mixture a touch, and she started first kick, the moment I released the decompression lever. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : "Laurier Williams" To: Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:33:41 -0000 Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > Aaaah. This assumes you can get into the car and get it started. > > My experience with cold weather and cars was earned during a cold spell > in > British Columbia, Canada, in a record cold December. > > 1. Overnight min approx -30C. Walking out of +20C hotel around sunrise > is > like walking into a vaporous block of dry ice. All the hair folicles in > your > nose freeze instantly, an alarming and unfamiliar experience that > suddenly > makes you feel you have a heavy cold. Insert key into driver's door. > Try to > turn. Nothing happens. Go back into hotel and get jug of hot water. > Return > to car and pour over keyhole. Immediate problem solved -- key turns in > lock. > Long Term Problem #1: Water in lock refreezes within 10 seconds and > lock is > inoperable until we reach lower latitudes. > > 2. Gain access to car. Turn ignition on to start. Engine turns ~45 > degrees, > then stops. Further attempts at starting produce not even a sound. The > oil > in the engine block has frozen. Try to push start down fairly steep > hill: > wheels lock on engaging 3rd gear and we slither to a halt. Friendly RAC > Canada truck tows us 5km to generate the friction + heat needed to thaw > the > oil to allow engine to fire. Long Term Problem #2: Garage the vehicle > in a > heated garage overnight, or have an engine block heating accessory, > otherwise the oil will be solid come morning. > > Laurier > > > > -----Original Message----- > > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Anthony > > Cornelius > > Sent: Monday, 16 June, 2003 10:21 > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > > > Thanks Jane! > > > > I know now to head outside 10-15mins before I want to leave and turn > the > > car & heater on, by the time I come back it should all be defrosted > (and > > the car will be warmed up a little too!) No better teacher than > > experience!!! > > > > Our garage is full of umm...junk 'n stuff - dad and I will be > cleaning > > it out after my exams are finished, so that will eventually end the > ice > > problem! It is still a bit of a novelty though! > > > > Clyve - yep! Same band, it became apparent this morning quite > clearly, > > interestingly it seemed to evaporate across the sky...thick to the NW > > and it would thin out as it spread eastwards. Hopefully we get some > > more high cloud tomorrow to throw another nice sunset! > > > > AC > > > > Jane ONeill wrote: > > > > > > hehehehe - dear Naive Queenslander, > > > > > > Winter morning routine (if you don't have a garage or a tree to > park > > > under) > > > 1. jog outside and while taking photos of ice, frost, snow, turn > car on > > > and leave to idle for 5 - 10 minutes with demister on warm (hint - > > > switch the air conditioner switch on - it'll be more efficient once > the > > > ice has melted and you have to contend with a fogged up windscreen) > > > 2. finish getting dressed > > > 3. take bucket of water with you that is barely warm (only just > barely > > > tepid with the chill taken off - or you'll crack the windscreen) > > > 4. throw bucket of water over now pre-warmed windscreen and all > windows, > > > and then > > > 5. turn wipers on to clear the slush after inserting self into now > > > warmed car..... > > > > > > Shopping list: > > > gloves and > > > carport or > > > garage or > > > tarp slung between trees > > > > > > The novelty will wear off (probably by tomorrow) but the routine > will > > > remain.........Queanbeyan with mornings of -9°C and a manual V8 > Ford > > > without an automatic choke used to see me have to carefully place a > > > housebrick on the accelerator to keep the car idling steadily for > 10 > > > minutes while I got dressed, and I never left the house without a > bucket > > > of tepid water...problem was, the engine was never even warm after > 10 > > > minutes of idling (so I drive and shivvvvvvered) and it was only a > 3 > > > minute drive to work so on most cold mornings I had to drive > halfway to > > > the airport and back again to bring the engine up to operating > > > temperature before I turned it off at work. > > > > > > Welcome to winter!! (I'd forgotten how much fun that can be!!) > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > at : "Anthony Cornelius" > > > To: "Aus-wx" > > > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think > the > > > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded > a > > > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > > > > > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > > > > > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned > out > > > for > > > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in > for a > > > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, > be > > > at > > > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute > > > cram.err..studying! > > > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, > can > > > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost and > fog > > > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > > > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling > over, > > > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile > alarm), I > > > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll > have > > > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it > somehow > > > made > > > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the > edge > > > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile > attempt. > > > I > > > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and > did > > > > the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I > fiddled > > > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and > convinced > > > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too > many > > > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned > on the > > > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not > quite > > > the > > > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and > felt the > > > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > > > > > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the > house.it > > > had > > > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted > up. > > > I > > > > then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants and > a > > > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly > -3/-4 > > > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the > > > house) > > > > and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly > getting > > > VERY > > > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to > fall > > > > off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the > heater > > > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > > > > > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite > > > thick.the > > > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I > thought.I > > > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > > > preparation > > > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my > camera to > > > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of > Brisbane > > > I > > > > never had ice on my car like that before! > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > > > > > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 > days > > > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > > > > windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second to > work > > > > out, something about not being able to see out the > > > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > > > > > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing > frozen > > > water > > > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I > had > > > was > > > > to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that > did! > > > I > > > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion was > to > > > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > > > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. > Of > > > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I > was > > > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually > grew > > > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back > into > > > the > > > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I > > > grabbed > > > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice > off. > > > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got > a > > > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able > to > > > see > > > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on > all of > > > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't > know > > > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't > want > > > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > > > freezer, > > > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > > > > > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater > gradually > > > began > > > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy > feeling > > > back > > > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. > This > > > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the > Little > > > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around > 1-2C.Laidley > > > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I > had > > > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were > to > > > get > > > > to Toowoomba in time! > > > > > > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were > sitting > > > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the > ice on > > > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people > at > > > the > > > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders > who > > > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one > else > > > > with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to > K-Mart's > > > > today too to pick up a new one. > > > > > > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make > good > > > > pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! > > > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in > front > > > of > > > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only > > > capable > > > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair > enough! > > > I > > > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear > and > > > tear > > > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait > for > > > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars > to > > > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the > > > brakes > > > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight > stretch > > > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, > nothing > > > > to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of > the car > > > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 > grade > > > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then > have to > > > > pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed > thankfully, > > > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the > road > > > > (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this time). > > > > > > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped > my car > > > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving > there at > > > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed > to 9am > > > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and > my > > > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better > thing > > > to > > > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and > do > > > some > > > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if > it'd be > > > > open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the > fire > > > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes > out > > > of > > > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then > realised > > > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on a > chair > > > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to write > I > > > was > > > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at > Toowoomba > > > > ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the > > > building > > > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam > started. > > > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in > our > > > exam > > > > room was broken too. > > > > > > > > In think I'll move to the tropics. > > > > > > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must > clear > > > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > > > > -- > > > > Anthony Cornelius > > > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > > > 0417 759 304 > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > > body of your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > 0417 759 304 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:24:14 +0930 at : "R.Albury" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Toowoomba Sunset Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Keith Barnett wrote: >Anthony, on the contrary (and maybe I'm a poor judge), I think the quality >is such that you should seriously enter them for a weather calendar, maybe >even the BoM's. >Isn't nature marvellous? > >Keith Barnett >Weather fanatic and classical musician >Website: http://www.wthrman.com >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----------------------------------------------- >This message ,and any attachments, has been scanned by the latest version of >Norton AntiVirus and is certified to be virus free. > > >----- Original Message ----- > at : "Anthony Cornelius" >To: "Aus-wx" >Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:20 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Toowoomba Sunset > > > > >>Hi Everyone, >> >>The clearing cloud band gave a nice sunset this afternoon at uni! >>Excuse the poor quality, it was shot hand held at 1/10...but they didn't >>come out too badly for such a slow shutter speed without a tripod... >> >>http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/18-06-03-01.jpg >> >>and >> >>http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/18-06-03-02.jpg >>-- >>Anthony Cornelius >>Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the >>Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) >>0417 759 304 >>http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> >> Hi Anthony Excellent photographs mate. If you don't mind, I'm using No.1 as my desktop wallpaper so others can see your excellent work. Again excellent photographs :) Richard Kurralta park S.Australia +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: "aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: Lurker low Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:49:07 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Some good stuff happening across Aus tonight, a very interesting and massive mid and upper cloud band over WA looks impressive (baroclinic ). Also our lurking upper cold pool low looking good over northern NSW. regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.138.156.178] X-Originating-Email: [mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] at : "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow forecast Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:56:00 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2003 12:56:00.0829 (UTC) FILETIME=[4CCF6ED0:01C3372B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dave, The air behind the cold front coming up is very dry and I doubt they will get much snow on the Alps .By the time it reaches you it will be even drier and a bit too warm for snow at your elevation.I hope it rids us of this foggy wx pattern of the last few days..very gloomy here but clear tonight and 3 degrees at 22.55 hrs > at : "David Carroll" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: "Aussie Weather" >Subject: aus-wx: Snow forecast >Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:41:08 +1000 > >HI all. > >Not many people talking about possible snow falls occurring this weekend >around Oberon area Sat/Sunday. ANyone have more views about this. Seems >like snow ski areas have quite large falls to occur. Been reading >Ski.com.au forums. > >Lets hope we get more at this than previous weekend. > >Dave >Bathurst Snow Reports _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Simon Fearby" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lurker low (Time Lapse of Rain event) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:15:22 +1000 Organization: Fearby.com Software X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Just has our 2nd storm pass Tamworth for the day. We received 21mm of rain up near the hills. BOM Readings: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95762.shtml Today's complete time lapse cam be downloaded at here http://simon.fearby.com/webcam/archives/videos/20062003%20-%20Fri%2020th %20June%202003.wmv Impressive rain storm hit at about lunch time, captures in the time lapse. (smooth 1 frame = 1 minute) -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Clyve Herbert Sent: Friday, 20 June 2003 10:49 PM To: aussie weather Subject: aus-wx: Lurker low Hi all. Some good stuff happening across Aus tonight, a very interesting and massive mid and upper cloud band over WA looks impressive (baroclinic ). Also our lurking upper cold pool low looking good over northern NSW. regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Simon Fearby" To: Subject: aus-wx: FYI: NASA's Langley Research Center compiled a couple decades worth of satellite data... Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:25:17 +1000 Organization: Fearby.com Software X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FYI: NASA's Langley Research Center compiled a couple decades worth of satellite data...

FYI:

--snip at :http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Study/DelicateBalance/

Last year, climate scientists at NASAĠs Langley Research Center compiled a couple decades worth of satellite data showing the visible and infrared radiation emanating at the tropics. While the researchers were reviewing the data simply to test existing notions, they uncovered a phenomenon no one expected. They found that over the past 15 years, progressively more thermal radiation has been escaping the atmosphere above the tropics and progressively less sunlight has been reflecting off of the clouds. Though researchers now believe that wind currents throughout the tropics have been fluctuating and altering clouds and radiation patterns, the discovery has brought into question many theories and climate models regarding the interaction of solar energy with the Earth.



at : "Robert M" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lurker low (Time Lapse of Rain event) X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 211.26.140.5 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:36:20 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - neptune.hiddenservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [1875 1885] / [1875 1885] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - neptune.hiddenservers.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Quote:------------------------ Today's complete time lapse cam be downloaded at here http://simon.fearby.com/webcam/archives/videos/20062003%20-%20Fri% 2020th %20June%202003.wmv ------------------------------ The link works but i keep on getting and error.Im using Windows Media Player 8. on Windows XP Pro > Hello > > Just has our 2nd storm pass Tamworth for the day. We received 21mm of > rain up near the hills. > > BOM Readings: > http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95762.shtml > > > Today's complete time lapse cam be downloaded at here > http://simon.fearby.com/webcam/archives/videos/20062003%20-%20Fri% 2020th > %20June%202003.wmv > > Impressive rain storm hit at about lunch time, captures in the time > lapse. > > (smooth 1 frame = 1 minute) > > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Clyve > Herbert > Sent: Friday, 20 June 2003 10:49 PM > To: aussie weather > Subject: aus-wx: Lurker low > > > Hi all. Some good stuff happening across Aus tonight, a very interesting > and massive mid and upper cloud band over WA looks impressive > (baroclinic ). Also our lurking upper cold pool low looking good over > northern NSW. regards Clyve H. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- --- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- --- > > --------------------------- Nick name: Weathernut Real name: Robert M Web site: http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com Email: weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com --------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.220.168.43] X-Originating-Email: [kjphyland at hotmail.com] at : "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:53:49 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2003 15:53:49.0787 (UTC) FILETIME=[24013AB0:01C33744] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Laurier, AC etc.. Millions of years ago (...well let's call it twenty or so) a friend of mine at Uni told me that while he was living in the very northern part of the US it was a regular thing for people going out to dinner in restaurants in mid-winter to leave their cars idling while they ate... I actually thought he was b/s ing me... Can anybody who's been in that neck of the woods at that time of year either confirm or refute this amazing story? (Not so amazing if it gets to -30 at night I guess...) Cheers, Kevin at Wycheproof. P.S. Still at 96mm and holding for the ytd... > at : "Laurier Williams" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... >Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:33:41 -0000 > >Aaaah. This assumes you can get into the car and get it started. > >My experience with cold weather and cars was earned during a cold spell in >British Columbia, Canada, in a record cold December. > >1. Overnight min approx -30C. Walking out of +20C hotel around sunrise is >like walking into a vaporous block of dry ice. All the hair folicles in >your >nose freeze instantly, an alarming and unfamiliar experience that suddenly >makes you feel you have a heavy cold. Insert key into driver's door. Try to >turn. Nothing happens. Go back into hotel and get jug of hot water. Return >to car and pour over keyhole. Immediate problem solved -- key turns in >lock. >Long Term Problem #1: Water in lock refreezes within 10 seconds and lock is >inoperable until we reach lower latitudes. > >2. Gain access to car. Turn ignition on to start. Engine turns ~45 degrees, >then stops. Further attempts at starting produce not even a sound. The oil >in the engine block has frozen. Try to push start down fairly steep hill: >wheels lock on engaging 3rd gear and we slither to a halt. Friendly RAC >Canada truck tows us 5km to generate the friction + heat needed to thaw the >oil to allow engine to fire. Long Term Problem #2: Garage the vehicle in a >heated garage overnight, or have an engine block heating accessory, >otherwise the oil will be solid come morning. > >Laurier > > > > -----Original Message----- > > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Anthony > > Cornelius > > Sent: Monday, 16 June, 2003 10:21 > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > > > Thanks Jane! > > > > I know now to head outside 10-15mins before I want to leave and turn the > > car & heater on, by the time I come back it should all be defrosted (and > > the car will be warmed up a little too!) No better teacher than > > experience!!! > > > > Our garage is full of umm...junk 'n stuff - dad and I will be cleaning > > it out after my exams are finished, so that will eventually end the ice > > problem! It is still a bit of a novelty though! > > > > Clyve - yep! Same band, it became apparent this morning quite clearly, > > interestingly it seemed to evaporate across the sky...thick to the NW > > and it would thin out as it spread eastwards. Hopefully we get some > > more high cloud tomorrow to throw another nice sunset! > > > > AC > > > > Jane ONeill wrote: > > > > > > hehehehe - dear Naive Queenslander, > > > > > > Winter morning routine (if you don't have a garage or a tree to park > > > under) > > > 1. jog outside and while taking photos of ice, frost, snow, turn car >on > > > and leave to idle for 5 - 10 minutes with demister on warm (hint - > > > switch the air conditioner switch on - it'll be more efficient once >the > > > ice has melted and you have to contend with a fogged up windscreen) > > > 2. finish getting dressed > > > 3. take bucket of water with you that is barely warm (only just barely > > > tepid with the chill taken off - or you'll crack the windscreen) > > > 4. throw bucket of water over now pre-warmed windscreen and all >windows, > > > and then > > > 5. turn wipers on to clear the slush after inserting self into now > > > warmed car..... > > > > > > Shopping list: > > > gloves and > > > carport or > > > garage or > > > tarp slung between trees > > > > > > The novelty will wear off (probably by tomorrow) but the routine will > > > remain.........Queanbeyan with mornings of -9°C and a manual V8 Ford > > > without an automatic choke used to see me have to carefully place a > > > housebrick on the accelerator to keep the car idling steadily for 10 > > > minutes while I got dressed, and I never left the house without a >bucket > > > of tepid water...problem was, the engine was never even warm after 10 > > > minutes of idling (so I drive and shivvvvvvered) and it was only a 3 > > > minute drive to work so on most cold mornings I had to drive halfway >to > > > the airport and back again to bring the engine up to operating > > > temperature before I turned it off at work. > > > > > > Welcome to winter!! (I'd forgotten how much fun that can be!!) > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > at : "Anthony Cornelius" > > > To: "Aus-wx" > > > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I think the > > > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) Recorded a > > > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > > > > > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > > > > > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned out > > > for > > > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in for >a > > > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to uni, be > > > at > > > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute > > > cram.err..studying! > > > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for 5am, can > > > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost and fog > > > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > > > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling >over, > > > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile alarm), >I > > > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought "I'll >have > > > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it somehow > > > made > > > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on the >edge > > > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile attempt. > > > I > > > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor and >did > > > > the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I >fiddled > > > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and convinced > > > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too many > > > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned on >the > > > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not quite > > > the > > > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and felt >the > > > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > > > > > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the house.it > > > had > > > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite frosted up. > > > I > > > > then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants and a > > > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly -3/-4 > > > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at the > > > house) > > > > and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly getting > > > VERY > > > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about to >fall > > > > off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the heater > > > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > > > > > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite > > > thick.the > > > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I thought.I > > > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > > > preparation > > > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my camera >to > > > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of >Brisbane > > > I > > > > never had ice on my car like that before! > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > > > > > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 days > > > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > > > > windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second to >work > > > > out, something about not being able to see out the > > > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > > > > > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing frozen > > > water > > > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct I had > > > was > > > > to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that did! > > > I > > > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion was to > > > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" I > > > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on full. Of > > > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I was > > > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually grew > > > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back into > > > the > > > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, I > > > grabbed > > > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice off. > > > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I got a > > > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be able to > > > see > > > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on all >of > > > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway (don't >know > > > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't want > > > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > > > freezer, > > > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > > > > > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater gradually > > > began > > > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy feeling > > > back > > > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all mushy. >This > > > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the Little > > > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around 1-2C.Laidley > > > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I had > > > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I were to > > > get > > > > to Toowoomba in time! > > > > > > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were sitting > > > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the ice >on > > > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people at > > > the > > > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders who > > > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some one >else > > > > with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to K-Mart's > > > > today too to pick up a new one. > > > > > > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I make >good > > > > pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! > > > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in front > > > of > > > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only > > > capable > > > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair >enough! > > > I > > > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear and > > > tear > > > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* wait >for > > > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 cars to > > > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on the > > > brakes > > > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight >stretch > > > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, >nothing > > > > to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of the >car > > > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips (F5 >grade > > > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then have >to > > > > pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed >thankfully, > > > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down the >road > > > > (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this time). > > > > > > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped my >car > > > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving there >at > > > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed to >9am > > > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, and my > > > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better thing > > > to > > > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and do > > > some > > > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if it'd >be > > > > open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the fire > > > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the cripes out > > > of > > > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then >realised > > > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on a >chair > > > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to write I > > > was > > > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at >Toowoomba > > > > ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the > > > building > > > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam started. > > > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in our > > > exam > > > > room was broken too. > > > > > > > > In think I'll move to the tropics. > > > > > > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must clear > > > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > > > > -- > > > > Anthony Cornelius > > > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > > > 0417 759 304 > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > message. > > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > > body of your > > > message. > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > 0417 759 304 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Simon Fearby" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lurker low (Time Lapse of Rain event) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:30:28 +1000 Organization: Fearby.com Software X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My apologies, I should have mentioned that the daily time lapse videos are encoded in Media Player 9's variable bitrate (very small) format, you may need Media Player 9 to view them. I have updated the webcam page to alert people to this fact. Screen shot of my Media Player 9 in action http://simon.fearby.com/webcam/MediaPlayer9.jpg You can download Media Player 9 here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9series/player.aspx I tried to make smaller standard mpeg's or small DivX's but clouds do not compress very well in those formats, maybe because clouds are not square and jpeggy :) Linux/Mac 10.2 people can download a great free WMV player here http://xinehq.de/ Simon -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Robert M Sent: Saturday, 21 June 2003 12:36 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lurker low (Time Lapse of Rain event) Quote:------------------------ Today's complete time lapse cam be downloaded at here http://simon.fearby.com/webcam/archives/videos/20062003%20-%20Fri% 2020th %20June%202003.wmv ------------------------------ The link works but i keep on getting and error.Im using Windows Media Player 8. on Windows XP Pro > Hello > > Just has our 2nd storm pass Tamworth for the day. We received 21mm of > rain up near the hills. > > BOM Readings: > http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95762.shtml > > > Today's complete time lapse cam be downloaded at here > http://simon.fearby.com/webcam/archives/videos/20062003%20-%20Fri% 2020th > %20June%202003.wmv > > Impressive rain storm hit at about lunch time, captures in the time > lapse. > > (smooth 1 frame = 1 minute) > > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Clyve > Herbert > Sent: Friday, 20 June 2003 10:49 PM > To: aussie weather > Subject: aus-wx: Lurker low > > > Hi all. Some good stuff happening across Aus tonight, a very interesting > and massive mid and upper cloud band over WA looks impressive > (baroclinic ). Also our lurking upper cold pool low looking good over > northern NSW. regards Clyve H. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- --- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- --- > > --------------------------- Nick name: Weathernut Real name: Robert M Web site: http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com Email: weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com --------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:12:58 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have heard some Canadians say the same thing ... leave the car idling so you can get home again later. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:53:49 +1000 Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > Hi Laurier, AC etc.. > > Millions of years ago (...well let's call it twenty or so) a friend of > mine > at Uni told me that while he was living in the very northern part of > the > US it was a regular thing for people going out to dinner in restaurants > in > mid-winter to leave their cars idling while they ate... I actually > thought > he was b/s ing me... > > Can anybody who's been in that neck of the woods at that time of year > either > confirm or refute this amazing story? (Not so amazing if it gets to -30 > at > night I guess...) > > Cheers, > Kevin at Wycheproof. > > P.S. Still at 96mm and holding for the ytd... > > > > at : "Laurier Williams" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: > >Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > >Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:33:41 -0000 > > > >Aaaah. This assumes you can get into the car and get it started. > > > >My experience with cold weather and cars was earned during a cold > spell in > >British Columbia, Canada, in a record cold December. > > > >1. Overnight min approx -30C. Walking out of +20C hotel around sunrise > is > >like walking into a vaporous block of dry ice. All the hair folicles > in > >your > >nose freeze instantly, an alarming and unfamiliar experience that > suddenly > >makes you feel you have a heavy cold. Insert key into driver's door. > Try to > >turn. Nothing happens. Go back into hotel and get jug of hot water. > Return > >to car and pour over keyhole. Immediate problem solved -- key turns in > >lock. > >Long Term Problem #1: Water in lock refreezes within 10 seconds and > lock is > >inoperable until we reach lower latitudes. > > > >2. Gain access to car. Turn ignition on to start. Engine turns ~45 > degrees, > >then stops. Further attempts at starting produce not even a sound. The > oil > >in the engine block has frozen. Try to push start down fairly steep > hill: > >wheels lock on engaging 3rd gear and we slither to a halt. Friendly > RAC > >Canada truck tows us 5km to generate the friction + heat needed to > thaw the > >oil to allow engine to fire. Long Term Problem #2: Garage the vehicle > in a > >heated garage overnight, or have an engine block heating accessory, > >otherwise the oil will be solid come morning. > > > >Laurier > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Anthony > > > Cornelius > > > Sent: Monday, 16 June, 2003 10:21 > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > > > > > > Thanks Jane! > > > > > > I know now to head outside 10-15mins before I want to leave and > turn the > > > car & heater on, by the time I come back it should all be defrosted > (and > > > the car will be warmed up a little too!) No better teacher than > > > experience!!! > > > > > > Our garage is full of umm...junk 'n stuff - dad and I will be > cleaning > > > it out after my exams are finished, so that will eventually end the > ice > > > problem! It is still a bit of a novelty though! > > > > > > Clyve - yep! Same band, it became apparent this morning quite > clearly, > > > interestingly it seemed to evaporate across the sky...thick to the > NW > > > and it would thin out as it spread eastwards. Hopefully we get > some > > > more high cloud tomorrow to throw another nice sunset! > > > > > > AC > > > > > > Jane ONeill wrote: > > > > > > > > hehehehe - dear Naive Queenslander, > > > > > > > > Winter morning routine (if you don't have a garage or a tree to > park > > > > under) > > > > 1. jog outside and while taking photos of ice, frost, snow, turn > car > >on > > > > and leave to idle for 5 - 10 minutes with demister on warm (hint > - > > > > switch the air conditioner switch on - it'll be more efficient > once > >the > > > > ice has melted and you have to contend with a fogged up > windscreen) > > > > 2. finish getting dressed > > > > 3. take bucket of water with you that is barely warm (only just > barely > > > > tepid with the chill taken off - or you'll crack the windscreen) > > > > 4. throw bucket of water over now pre-warmed windscreen and all > >windows, > > > > and then > > > > 5. turn wipers on to clear the slush after inserting self into > now > > > > warmed car..... > > > > > > > > Shopping list: > > > > gloves and > > > > carport or > > > > garage or > > > > tarp slung between trees > > > > > > > > The novelty will wear off (probably by tomorrow) but the routine > will > > > > remain.........Queanbeyan with mornings of -9°C and a manual V8 > Ford > > > > without an automatic choke used to see me have to carefully place > a > > > > housebrick on the accelerator to keep the car idling steadily for > 10 > > > > minutes while I got dressed, and I never left the house without a > >bucket > > > > of tepid water...problem was, the engine was never even warm > after 10 > > > > minutes of idling (so I drive and shivvvvvvered) and it was only > a 3 > > > > minute drive to work so on most cold mornings I had to drive > halfway > >to > > > > the airport and back again to bring the engine up to operating > > > > temperature before I turned it off at work. > > > > > > > > Welcome to winter!! (I'd forgotten how much fun that can be!!) > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > at : "Anthony Cornelius" > > > > To: "Aus-wx" > > > > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM > > > > Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I > think the > > > > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) > Recorded a > > > > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > > > > > > > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > > > > > > > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned > out > > > > for > > > > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in > for > >a > > > > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to > uni, be > > > > at > > > > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute > > > > cram.err..studying! > > > > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for > 5am, can > > > > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost > and fog > > > > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > > > > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling > >over, > > > > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile > alarm), > >I > > > > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought > "I'll > >have > > > > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it > somehow > > > > made > > > > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on > the > >edge > > > > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile > attempt. > > > > I > > > > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor > and > >did > > > > > the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I > >fiddled > > > > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and > convinced > > > > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too > many > > > > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned > on > >the > > > > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not > quite > > > > the > > > > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and > felt > >the > > > > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > > > > > > > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the > house.it > > > > had > > > > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite > frosted up. > > > > I > > > > > then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants > and a > > > > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly > -3/-4 > > > > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at > the > > > > house) > > > > > and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly > getting > > > > VERY > > > > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about > to > >fall > > > > > off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the > heater > > > > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > > > > > > > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite > > > > thick.the > > > > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I > thought.I > > > > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > > > > preparation > > > > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my > camera > >to > > > > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of > >Brisbane > > > > I > > > > > never had ice on my car like that before! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > > > > > > > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 > days > > > > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > > > > > windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second > to > >work > > > > > out, something about not being able to see out the > > > > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > > > > > > > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing > frozen > > > > water > > > > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct > I had > > > > was > > > > > to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that > did! > > > > I > > > > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion > was to > > > > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" > I > > > > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on > full. Of > > > > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I > was > > > > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually > grew > > > > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back > into > > > > the > > > > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, > I > > > > grabbed > > > > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice > off. > > > > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I > got a > > > > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be > able to > > > > see > > > > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on > all > >of > > > > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway > (don't > >know > > > > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't > want > > > > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > > > > freezer, > > > > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > > > > > > > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater > gradually > > > > began > > > > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy > feeling > > > > back > > > > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all > mushy. > >This > > > > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the > Little > > > > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around > 1-2C.Laidley > > > > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I > had > > > > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I > were to > > > > get > > > > > to Toowoomba in time! > > > > > > > > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were > sitting > > > > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the > ice > >on > > > > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people > at > > > > the > > > > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders > who > > > > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some > one > >else > > > > > with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to > K-Mart's > > > > > today too to pick up a new one. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I > make > >good > > > > > pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! > > > > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in > front > > > > of > > > > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only > > > > capable > > > > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair > >enough! > > > > I > > > > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear > and > > > > tear > > > > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* > wait > >for > > > > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 > cars to > > > > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on > the > > > > brakes > > > > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight > >stretch > > > > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, > >nothing > > > > > to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of > the > >car > > > > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips > (F5 > >grade > > > > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then > have > >to > > > > > pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed > >thankfully, > > > > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down > the > >road > > > > > (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this > time). > > > > > > > > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped > my > >car > > > > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving > there > >at > > > > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed > to > >9am > > > > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, > and my > > > > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better > thing > > > > to > > > > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and > do > > > > some > > > > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if > it'd > >be > > > > > open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the > fire > > > > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the > cripes out > > > > of > > > > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then > >realised > > > > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on > a > >chair > > > > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to > write I > > > > was > > > > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at > >Toowoomba > > > > > ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the > > > > building > > > > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam > started. > > > > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in > our > > > > exam > > > > > room was broken too. > > > > > > > > > > In think I'll move to the tropics. > > > > > > > > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must > clear > > > > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > > > > > -- > > > > > Anthony Cornelius > > > > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > > > > 0417 759 304 > > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of > > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > > > body of your > > > > message. > > > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > > > > > -- > > > Anthony Cornelius > > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > > 0417 759 304 > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > >your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get mobile Hotmail. 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at : Peter May To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: APRS Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 15:14:10 +1000 Sensitivity: Company-Confidential X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. I have been looking at ways of moving weather data at near canberra to my location down the coast and came across APRS etc. I didn't realise thier was such a big interest. Does anyone have a weather station near in or near Canberra that transmits the data to the ametuer network using APRS that I can talk to offlist? Nearer Bungendoor would be better but I really need to find out more on this subject including packet info and if the packets are available on the net etc. Regards, Peter ************************************* Check the weather at www.beach-bum-solutions.com/nfweather.htm Beach Bum Solutions Mystery Bay NSW Aus ************************************ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: Ameliorate Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 19:54:12 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This word was used in a weather forecast today, issued by NZ Meteorological Service
 
'These cold conditions are expected to ameliorate on Thursday as a large high drifts over the country'
 
Is this forecaster daft or what?  Does anyone know the meaning of that word without checking the dictionary?  
 
Steven Williams (NZ)
at : "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ameliorate Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:56:38 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Ameliorate  -  to make better, to improve
But I confess I looked in the dictionary.
Judy.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 5:54 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Ameliorate

This word was used in a weather forecast today, issued by NZ Meteorological Service
 
'These cold conditions are expected to ameliorate on Thursday as a large high drifts over the country'
 
Is this forecaster daft or what?  Does anyone know the meaning of that word without checking the dictionary?  
 
Steven Williams (NZ)
at : "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ameliorate Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 19:38:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Well, large words used to appear in the NSW Monthly Weather Reviews. In its statement of normal conditions for a particular month reference was made to the northward track of high pressures. 'Concomitantly [at the same time] the weather comes under the control of southern low pressure systems'.
But I think there's a place for these words, unless the forecaster is 'a sophistical rhetorician, inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity' (no, not my original......!!!)
----- Original Message -----
at : Adam Mayo
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ameliorate

Ameliorate  -  to make better, to improve
But I confess I looked in the dictionary.
Judy.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 5:54 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Ameliorate

This word was used in a weather forecast today, issued by NZ Meteorological Service
 
'These cold conditions are expected to ameliorate on Thursday as a large high drifts over the country'
 
Is this forecaster daft or what?  Does anyone know the meaning of that word without checking the dictionary?  
 
Steven Williams (NZ)
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 19:53:18 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: APRS Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 03:14 PM 21/06/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi all. > >I have been looking at ways of moving weather data at near canberra to my >location down the coast and came across APRS etc. I didn't realise thier was >such a big interest. > >Does anyone have a weather station near in or near Canberra that transmits >the data to the ametuer network using APRS that I can talk to offlist? >Nearer Bungendoor would be better but I really need to find out more on this >subject including packet info and if the packets are available on the net >etc. I believe there is an IGate in Canberra. You may want to enquire on the ozaprs mailing list... I can't recall the details offhand. You may find info about it in Google or ozhams. :) Also worth asking around the local hams to find what's happening, and point your TNC to 145.175 to see what traffic's there. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 19:02:36 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ameliorate X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The term ameliorate is frequently used here in weather forecasts - especially after typhoon conditions. I think I first heard the word in weather forecasts on the wireless when I was at school, but I reckon I haven't heard it in general use in Oz much after I left school. When I heard it being used again here, it was like meeting an old friend at long ago. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- at : "Adam Mayo" To: Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:56:38 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ameliorate > Ameliorate - to make better, to improve > But I confess I looked in the dictionary. > Judy. > ----- Original Message ----- > at : Steven Williams > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 5:54 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Ameliorate > > > This word was used in a weather forecast today, issued by NZ > Meteorological Service > > 'These cold conditions are expected to ameliorate on Thursday as a > large high drifts over the country' > > Is this forecaster daft or what? Does anyone know the meaning of > that word without checking the dictionary? > > Steven Williams (NZ) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ameliorate Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 03:12:15 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I think some of the simpler frequently-used expressions are also daft. "The rain held off.." If it held off, then by definition it wasn't rain. "The rain stayed away.." Where is away? "A storm moved over the country.." Storms don't move, only pressure systems that generate them. "The sun was in our eyes..or..we lay in the sun for an hour" ouch Ken Ring www.predictweather.com ----- Original Message ----- at : "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 11:02 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ameliorate > The term ameliorate is frequently used here in weather forecasts - > especially after typhoon conditions. > I think I first heard the word in weather forecasts on the wireless when > I was at school, but I reckon I haven't heard it in general use in Oz > much after I left school. When I heard it being used again here, it was > like meeting an old friend at long ago. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > at : "Adam Mayo" > To: > Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:56:38 +1000 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ameliorate > > > Ameliorate - to make better, to improve > > But I confess I looked in the dictionary. > > Judy. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > at : Steven Williams > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 5:54 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Ameliorate > > > > > > This word was used in a weather forecast today, issued by NZ > > Meteorological Service > > > > 'These cold conditions are expected to ameliorate on Thursday as a > > large high drifts over the country' > > > > Is this forecaster daft or what? Does anyone know the meaning of > > that word without checking the dictionary? > > > > Steven Williams (NZ) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 03:51:48 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at my experience, once the temperature gets below around -15 you either need a warmed garage or a warmer around the engine block; the only alternative would be to leave the engine running. At -30 with even a light wind I noticed that the engine went at running temperature to stone cold in about 15 minutes, so you'd have to eat pretty fast if you decided to turn the ignition off! Laurier > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Phil Smith > Sent: Friday, 20 June, 2003 23:13 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > I have heard some Canadians say the same thing ... leave the car idling > so you can get home again later. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > at : "Kevin Phyland" > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:53:49 +1000 > Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > Hi Laurier, AC etc.. > > > > Millions of years ago (...well let's call it twenty or so) a friend of > > mine > > at Uni told me that while he was living in the very northern part of > > the > > US it was a regular thing for people going out to dinner in restaurants > > in > > mid-winter to leave their cars idling while they ate... I actually > > thought > > he was b/s ing me... > > > > Can anybody who's been in that neck of the woods at that time of year > > either > > confirm or refute this amazing story? (Not so amazing if it gets to -30 > > at > > night I guess...) > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin at Wycheproof. > > > > P.S. Still at 96mm and holding for the ytd... > > > > > > > at : "Laurier Williams" > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > >To: > > >Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > >Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:33:41 -0000 > > > > > >Aaaah. This assumes you can get into the car and get it started. > > > > > >My experience with cold weather and cars was earned during a cold > > spell in > > >British Columbia, Canada, in a record cold December. > > > > > >1. Overnight min approx -30C. Walking out of +20C hotel around sunrise > > is > > >like walking into a vaporous block of dry ice. All the hair folicles > > in > > >your > > >nose freeze instantly, an alarming and unfamiliar experience that > > suddenly > > >makes you feel you have a heavy cold. Insert key into driver's door. > > Try to > > >turn. Nothing happens. Go back into hotel and get jug of hot water. > > Return > > >to car and pour over keyhole. Immediate problem solved -- key turns in > > >lock. > > >Long Term Problem #1: Water in lock refreezes within 10 seconds and > > lock is > > >inoperable until we reach lower latitudes. > > > > > >2. Gain access to car. Turn ignition on to start. Engine turns ~45 > > degrees, > > >then stops. Further attempts at starting produce not even a sound. The > > oil > > >in the engine block has frozen. Try to push start down fairly steep > > hill: > > >wheels lock on engaging 3rd gear and we slither to a halt. Friendly > > RAC > > >Canada truck tows us 5km to generate the friction + heat needed to > > thaw the > > >oil to allow engine to fire. Long Term Problem #2: Garage the vehicle > > in a > > >heated garage overnight, or have an engine block heating accessory, > > >otherwise the oil will be solid come morning. > > > > > >Laurier > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Anthony > > > > Cornelius > > > > Sent: Monday, 16 June, 2003 10:21 > > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Jane! > > > > > > > > I know now to head outside 10-15mins before I want to leave and > > turn the > > > > car & heater on, by the time I come back it should all be defrosted > > (and > > > > the car will be warmed up a little too!) No better teacher than > > > > experience!!! > > > > > > > > Our garage is full of umm...junk 'n stuff - dad and I will be > > cleaning > > > > it out after my exams are finished, so that will eventually end the > > ice > > > > problem! It is still a bit of a novelty though! > > > > > > > > Clyve - yep! Same band, it became apparent this morning quite > > clearly, > > > > interestingly it seemed to evaporate across the sky...thick to the > > NW > > > > and it would thin out as it spread eastwards. Hopefully we get > > some > > > > more high cloud tomorrow to throw another nice sunset! > > > > > > > > AC > > > > > > > > Jane ONeill wrote: > > > > > > > > > > hehehehe - dear Naive Queenslander, > > > > > > > > > > Winter morning routine (if you don't have a garage or a tree to > > park > > > > > under) > > > > > 1. jog outside and while taking photos of ice, frost, snow, turn > > car > > >on > > > > > and leave to idle for 5 - 10 minutes with demister on warm (hint > > - > > > > > switch the air conditioner switch on - it'll be more efficient > > once > > >the > > > > > ice has melted and you have to contend with a fogged up > > windscreen) > > > > > 2. finish getting dressed > > > > > 3. take bucket of water with you that is barely warm (only just > > barely > > > > > tepid with the chill taken off - or you'll crack the windscreen) > > > > > 4. throw bucket of water over now pre-warmed windscreen and all > > >windows, > > > > > and then > > > > > 5. turn wipers on to clear the slush after inserting self into > > now > > > > > warmed car..... > > > > > > > > > > Shopping list: > > > > > gloves and > > > > > carport or > > > > > garage or > > > > > tarp slung between trees > > > > > > > > > > The novelty will wear off (probably by tomorrow) but the routine > > will > > > > > remain.........Queanbeyan with mornings of -9°C and a manual V8 > > Ford > > > > > without an automatic choke used to see me have to carefully place > > a > > > > > housebrick on the accelerator to keep the car idling steadily for > > 10 > > > > > minutes while I got dressed, and I never left the house without a > > >bucket > > > > > of tepid water...problem was, the engine was never even warm > > after 10 > > > > > minutes of idling (so I drive and shivvvvvvered) and it was only > > a 3 > > > > > minute drive to work so on most cold mornings I had to drive > > halfway > > >to > > > > > the airport and back again to bring the engine up to operating > > > > > temperature before I turned it off at work. > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to winter!! (I'd forgotten how much fun that can be!!) > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > > > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > > > > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > at : "Anthony Cornelius" > > > > > To: "Aus-wx" > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:39 PM > > > > > Subject: aus-wx: The Naive Queenslander... > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > Today was "one of those days" - I've described it below (I > > think the > > > > > > only way you can look at it is with a sense of humour!) > > Recorded a > > > > > > minimum of -2.7C here this morning... > > > > > > > > > > > > This can entitled "The Naive Coastal Queenslander..." > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I started my exams today and I had everything all planned > > out > > > > > for > > > > > > everything to go smoothly this morning! I had to put my car in > > for > > >a > > > > > > service by 7:15am, which meant I could catch the 7:30 bus to > > uni, be > > > > > at > > > > > > uni for 8am and have plenty of time for last minute > > > > > cram.err..studying! > > > > > > I had to leave at 6am, so thought "Right, set the alarm for > > 5am, can > > > > > > have an easy morning, no fuss no stress.even take some frost > > and fog > > > > > > photos at sunrise too!" When I went to bed just after 2, the > > > > > > temperature was already -0.7C. After what seemed to be rolling > > >over, > > > > > > going to sleep, and then waking up at 5 to the alarm (mobile > > alarm), > > >I > > > > > > ended up fumbling and dropping the phone. "Dam," I thought > > "I'll > > >have > > > > > > to get out of the covers and search for it." Of course, it > > somehow > > > > > made > > > > > > its way directly underneath my bed, and therefore me lying on > > the > > >edge > > > > > > of my bed, with my arm outside the covers was just a futile > > attempt. > > > > > I > > > > > > forced myself out of the covers and rolled off onto the floor > > and > > >did > > > > > > the search.found it! But wait. "Insert sim card" - &( at $#& I > > >fiddled > > > > > > around with it for 10 minutes or so until it was happy and > > convinced > > > > > > that it did indeed have a sim card in it (it's been dropped too > > many > > > > > > times). I put a jacket on and meandered into the study, turned > > on > > >the > > > > > > heater and had a look at the temperature. A balmy -2.1C! Not > > quite > > > > > the > > > > > > ideal temperature to wake up too! So I opened the window and > > felt > > >the > > > > > > roof outside (tin), a nice layer of frosty ice coated it! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice1.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > I then went outside, checked dad's car which was beside the > > house.it > > > > > had > > > > > > a thin coating of ice on it, but the window hadn't quite > > frosted up. > > > > > I > > > > > > then went and checked my car.of course, all I had were pants > > and a > > > > > > jacket on. That's right - no shoes!!! -2C outside (possibly > > -3/-4 > > > > > > ground temp), I made it half way to my car (about 30-40m at > > the > > > > > house) > > > > > > and thought "oh sh." after realising my feet were suddenly > > getting > > > > > VERY > > > > > > painfully cold! I raced back inside (fearing they were about > > to > > >fall > > > > > > off.) and then warmed them up back upstairs in front of the > > heater > > > > > > before putting shoes on and venturing outside again. > > > > > > > > > > > > My car was covered in ice! Especially the roof, it was quite > > > > > thick.the > > > > > > windscreen had a lot of ice on it too. "Hey cool!!!" I > > thought.I > > > > > > wandered back inside and then started to do some last minute > > > > > preparation > > > > > > before eventually putting my stuff in the car and taking my > > camera > > >to > > > > > > grab a couple of snap shots (living in the bayside suburbs of > > >Brisbane > > > > > I > > > > > > never had ice on my car like that before! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice3.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Ice4.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > Just the once when it was a thin coating on the roof about 10 > > days > > > > > > ago). I jumped into the car and looked out the > > > > > > windscreen."Hmm.something isn't right here" - it took a second > > to > > >work > > > > > > out, something about not being able to see out the > > > > > > windscreen!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/ice5.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I never imagined that something as simple as removing > > frozen > > > > > water > > > > > > could compound into such a laborious task! The first instinct > > I had > > > > > was > > > > > > to flick the windscreen wipers on.well, a fine lot of good that > > did! > > > > > I > > > > > > SMS'd Jane in Vic asking her any quick methods.her suggestion > > was to > > > > > > turn the heater on the windscreen to full. "Fine suggestion!" > > I > > > > > > thought. So I turned the car on, and turned the heater on > > full. Of > > > > > > course, the heater needs the car to be warm to start with, so I > > was > > > > > > sitting there for a couple of minutes as my fingers gradually > > grew > > > > > > numb. "This isn't going to work very quickly" - so I went back > > into > > > > > the > > > > > > house and raided the kitchen drawer. Thinking I was so smart, > > I > > > > > grabbed > > > > > > a spatula and then headed back out to the car to scrape the ice > > off. > > > > > > Well, it was a good way to break a perfectly good spatula! I > > got a > > > > > > little bit off though, and thought "well, hopefully I'll be > > able to > > > > > see > > > > > > through the little hole." Of course, I was ignoring the ice on > > all > > >of > > > > > > the side and back windows too. I drove down the driveway > > (don't > > >know > > > > > > how), with my fingernails gripping the steering wheel (I didn't > > want > > > > > > much skin contact!!! It was like handling an ice cube at the > > > > > freezer, > > > > > > and my hands were going all numb and white by this stage!!!) > > > > > > > > > > > > I pottered down my road (only car there), and the heater > > gradually > > > > > began > > > > > > to kick in! Finally my hands began to get that warm fuzzy > > feeling > > > > > back > > > > > > in them again, and the windscreen was beginning to go all > > mushy. > > >This > > > > > > time the wipers did the trick - woohoo!!! Going through the > > Little > > > > > > Liverpool Range was still very cold, but it was around > > 1-2C.Laidley > > > > > > looked like it had snowed (almost), but the frost/fog photos I > > had > > > > > > planned to take in my "extra time" had to be cancelled if I > > were to > > > > > get > > > > > > to Toowoomba in time! > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't feel quite so stupid in Laidley.lots of people were > > sitting > > > > > > there with their windscreen wipers on trying to get rid of the > > ice > > >on > > > > > > their windscreens (maybe there was a mass-relocation of people > > at > > > > > the > > > > > > coast to west of Brisbane last summer? Full of naïve baysiders > > who > > > > > > complained when the temperature went below 15C!) I saw some > > one > > >else > > > > > > with a kitchen spatula too.I hope he doesn't have to go to > > K-Mart's > > > > > > today too to pick up a new one. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, car is warm, I'm warm, I can't take photos but if I > > make > > >good > > > > > > pace I'll be on time.everything should be right now! Erm.no!!! > > > > > > Naturally you have to get that person who wants to pull out in > > front > > > > > of > > > > > > a line of cars (who also have nice warm cars now), but are only > > > > > capable > > > > > > of doing 60km/h for the next five minutes. Hey - that's fair > > >enough! > > > > > I > > > > > > wasn't going very fast either, don't want to put too much wear > > and > > > > > tear > > > > > > on a cold engine - smart thinking! But you could *at least* > > wait > > >for > > > > > > the procession of cars to go through before nearly causing 4 > > cars to > > > > > > rear end each other as their slow-reactive-cold-foot slams on > > the > > > > > brakes > > > > > > at 100km/h to 40! No one wanted to overtake.a nice straight > > >stretch > > > > > > ensued and we were still only doing 70km/h.so I overtook.easy, > > >nothing > > > > > > to it.except for the little wallaby that jumps out in front of > > the > > >car > > > > > > as you're pulling in at speed!!! THUMP!!!! CD player skips > > (F5 > > >grade > > > > > > thump for roads) and AC says a very very naughty word! I then > > have > > >to > > > > > > pull over and check the car for damage.none that I noticed > > >thankfully, > > > > > > but of course I got stuck behind the SAME procession 5km down > > the > > >road > > > > > > (which once again got overtaken.thankfully no animals this > > time). > > > > > > > > > > > > The "cold journey" went without incident at then on.I dropped > > my > > >car > > > > > > off at Toowoomba Subaru and caught the bus into uni.arriving > > there > > >at > > > > > > 7:50am, ahead of schedule! Of course, the refectory was closed > > to > > >9am > > > > > > (for some reason), and it was currently 3C and windy outside, > > and my > > > > > > body temperature was rapidly decreasing again! So what better > > thing > > > > > to > > > > > > do then to go into my exam building and sit in the corridor and > > do > > > > > some > > > > > > last minute revision. I walk into the building (wondering if > > it'd > > >be > > > > > > open.it was), within seconds of walking into the building the > > fire > > > > > > alarms and evacuation sirens start going off (scaring the > > cripes out > > > > > of > > > > > > me!!!) At first I thought it was a security alarm, but then > > >realised > > > > > > the fire alarm too. So I had to evacuate.this time sitting on > > a > > >chair > > > > > > in the shade, in 3C temps, in the wind.it was impossible to > > write I > > > > > was > > > > > > shivering too much! It seemed as if every fire engine at > > >Toowoomba > > > > > > ended up at uni.they did a once, a twice and a thwice over the > > > > > building > > > > > > until they decided it was a false alarm just before my exam > > started. > > > > > > The damage was done though, I couldn't warm up! The heater in > > our > > > > > exam > > > > > > room was broken too. > > > > > > > > > > > > In think I'll move to the tropics. > > > > > > > > > > > > (On the upside, the rain must fall and the storm clouds must > > clear > > > > > > before the rainbow shines, the sunset wasn't too bad tonight!) > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/ice/Sunset1.jpg > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Anthony Cornelius > > > > > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > > > > > 0417 759 304 > > > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > > body of > > > > > your > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > > > > body of your > > > > > message. > > > > > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Anthony Cornelius > > > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > > > 0417 759 304 > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > of > > >your > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get mobile Hotmail. 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Hello Weather Friends:
Heres the numbers for Spring 2003 (Mar 21-Jun 20) in Mena, Arkansas:
 
Avg. High: 75.2F(24.0C)
Avg. Low: 54.0F(12.2C)
        High: 93F(33.8C) May 30
        Low: 25F(-3.8C) Mar 30
Rain for Spring: 13.65"(346.7mm)
                      (-2.72"/-69.0mm)
 
I hope everyones upcoming week is "finer than froghair".
Enjoy your Winter! Go Snow!
Yours~~~David Powell
at : "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Snow in Victoria at low levels Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 19:20:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, 0°C at 1210m this morning at 9.09am on Donna Buang with snow lying - grader had already been through, gate to summit shut. Snow had fallen overnight and was still lying on leaves and branches (pics coming) Snow to same levels here as last week but I didn't venture up to the summit - but a bit less than last week at the gate down. Lake Mountain - Cambarville area - snow had also fallen overnight, also less than last week but to lower levels - lying at 780m this morning between Cumberland Jn and Reefton (east side of the high areas) and to 820m on the west side between Marysville and Lake Mtn turnoff. Best temperature achieved : -0.1°C Snow depth: between 3 - 5cm at 935m Temperature rose 2°C between 11.30am and 1pm. Images (thumbnails): http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0622jon01t.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0622jon02t.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0622jon03t.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0622jon04t.jpg Upper Yarra Reservoir (no further comment required) http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0622jon06t.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0622jon07t.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0622jon08t.jpg Images (large): http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0622jon01.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0622jon02.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0622jon03.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0622jon04.jpg Upper Yarra Reservoir (no further comment required) http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0622jon06.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0622jon07.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jun03/0622jon08.jpg Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: sleet/snow - Oberon To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 at : David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:56:55 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 6.0|September 26, 2002) at 23/06/2003 09:56:59 AM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 9.48pm - Bathurst HI All. Reports of Sleet falling at Portland near Lithgow. Snow on ground around Black springs/Oberon this morning, approx 2 inches. Skies clearing around Bathurst. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. 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And if the only thing it did was have you go for the dictionary I'm pleased!!! (Yeah...you can tell I'm a teacher can't you!) :)) Cheers, Kevin at Wycheproof. _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=174&referral=Hotmail_taglines_plain&URL=http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:09:25 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : Michael Bath Subject: aus-wx: Fwd: record hail size reported in Nebraska Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > > First Key West FL back in April...now a record-smashing hailstone in > > Nebraska: > > > > > PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT...CORRECTION > > > NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HASTINGS NE > > > 1027 AM CDT MON JUN 23 2003 > > > > > > TIME(CDT) .....CITY LOCATION..... STATE ...EVENT/REMARKS... > > > ....COUNTY LOCATION.... > > > > > > 0955 PM AURORA NE 6.5 INCH DIAMETER HAIL > > > 06/22/03 HAMILTON 17 3/8 INCH CIRCUMFERENCE > > > REPORTED BY STORM > > > SPOTTER. HOLES IN > > > NEIGHBORS ROOF BIG > > > ENOUGH TO CRAWL THROUGH. > > > > at an AP story on the event.: > > > > Gov. Mike Johanns toured Deshler on Monday and declared the county a > > disaster area. > > > > At least one hailstone that fell during the storm in Aurora, near Grand > > Island, was the size of a cantaloupe, measuring 6 1/2 inches in > > diameter, said Ryan McCammon, a weather service meteorologist in > > Hastings. A resident put it into a freezer soon after it fell, and the > > weather service sent a team to confirm the size. > > > > That's the largest ever recorded in Nebraska, and just one-eighth of an > > inch smaller than the national record holder, which was found in 1970 > > at Coffeyville, Kan. Hailstones measuring 4 1/2 inches across also were > > found in Aurora. > > > > "When it came down it looked just like someone dropping volleyballs > > down," said Dale Obermeier, a weather service spotter in Aurora who > > said the hail dug craters in his yard. He said one resident reported > > the hail punched a hole in his roof that was large enough for him to > > crawl through. > > > > Some hints of the elusive "warm trench" cloud top signature surrounding > > the coldest overshooting tops > > a couple of hours prior to the beast emitting the large hail: > > > > ftp://ftp.ssec.wisc.edu/pub/ssec/scottb/030623_N15_IR4.GIF > > > > 2003 is shaping up to be The Year of the Big Hailstone... > > > > -- > > Scott Bachmeier University of Wisconsin - Madison / SSEC / CIMSS > > scott.bachmeier at ssec.wisc.edu http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~scottb > > =================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ =================================================================== X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:45:50 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: record hail size reported in Nebraska Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, Yes - interesting story. My father did suggest once that Kellyville during a hailstone reported a particularly large sized hailstone that impressed into the ground many years ago. So this behaviour does make sense. I also wonder if this behaviour also existed during the Sydney hailstorm. And also that report in China a few years ago. Jimmy Deguara At 07:09 AM 24/6/2003 +1000, you wrote: >> > First Key West FL back in April...now a record-smashing hailstone in >> > Nebraska: >> > >> > > PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT...CORRECTION >> > > NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HASTINGS NE >> > > 1027 AM CDT MON JUN 23 2003 >> > > >> > > TIME(CDT) .....CITY LOCATION..... STATE ...EVENT/REMARKS... >> > > ....COUNTY LOCATION.... >> > > >> > > 0955 PM AURORA NE 6.5 INCH DIAMETER HAIL >> > > 06/22/03 HAMILTON 17 3/8 INCH CIRCUMFERENCE >> > > REPORTED BY STORM >> > > SPOTTER. HOLES IN >> > > NEIGHBORS ROOF BIG >> > > ENOUGH TO CRAWL THROUGH. >> > >> > at an AP story on the event.: >> > >> > Gov. Mike Johanns toured Deshler on Monday and declared the county a >> > disaster area. >> > >> > At least one hailstone that fell during the storm in Aurora, near Grand >> > Island, was the size of a cantaloupe, measuring 6 1/2 inches in >> > diameter, said Ryan McCammon, a weather service meteorologist in >> > Hastings. A resident put it into a freezer soon after it fell, and the >> > weather service sent a team to confirm the size. >> > >> > That's the largest ever recorded in Nebraska, and just one-eighth of an >> > inch smaller than the national record holder, which was found in 1970 >> > at Coffeyville, Kan. Hailstones measuring 4 1/2 inches across also were >> > found in Aurora. >> > >> > "When it came down it looked just like someone dropping volleyballs >> > down," said Dale Obermeier, a weather service spotter in Aurora who >> > said the hail dug craters in his yard. He said one resident reported >> > the hail punched a hole in his roof that was large enough for him to >> > crawl through. >> > >> > Some hints of the elusive "warm trench" cloud top signature surrounding >> > the coldest overshooting tops >> > a couple of hours prior to the beast emitting the large hail: >> > >> > ftp://ftp.ssec.wisc.edu/pub/ssec/scottb/030623_N15_IR4.GIF >> > >> > 2003 is shaping up to be The Year of the Big Hailstone... >> > >> > -- >> > Scott Bachmeier University of Wisconsin - Madison / SSEC / CIMSS >> > scott.bachmeier at ssec.wisc.edu http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~scottb >> > > > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:24:48 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: record hail size reported in Nebraska Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Time Life book article on the Coffeyville event : http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/coffeyville.jpg At 07:45 AM 24/06/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Michael, > >Yes - interesting story. My father did suggest once that Kellyville during >a hailstone reported a particularly large sized hailstone that impressed >into the ground many years ago. So this behaviour does make sense. I also >wonder if this behaviour also existed during the Sydney hailstorm. And >also that report in China a few years ago. > >Jimmy Deguara > >At 07:09 AM 24/6/2003 +1000, you wrote: > > > >>> > First Key West FL back in April...now a record-smashing hailstone in >>> > Nebraska: >>> > >>> > > PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT...CORRECTION >>> > > NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HASTINGS NE >>> > > 1027 AM CDT MON JUN 23 2003 >>> > > >>> > > TIME(CDT) .....CITY LOCATION..... STATE ...EVENT/REMARKS... >>> > > ....COUNTY LOCATION.... >>> > > >>> > > 0955 PM AURORA NE 6.5 INCH DIAMETER HAIL >>> > > 06/22/03 HAMILTON 17 3/8 INCH CIRCUMFERENCE >>> > > REPORTED BY STORM >>> > > SPOTTER. HOLES IN >>> > > NEIGHBORS ROOF BIG >>> > > ENOUGH TO CRAWL THROUGH. >>> > >>> > at an AP story on the event.: >>> > >>> > Gov. Mike Johanns toured Deshler on Monday and declared the county a >>> > disaster area. >>> > >>> > At least one hailstone that fell during the storm in Aurora, near Grand >>> > Island, was the size of a cantaloupe, measuring 6 1/2 inches in >>> > diameter, said Ryan McCammon, a weather service meteorologist in >>> > Hastings. A resident put it into a freezer soon after it fell, and the >>> > weather service sent a team to confirm the size. >>> > >>> > That's the largest ever recorded in Nebraska, and just one-eighth of an >>> > inch smaller than the national record holder, which was found in 1970 >>> > at Coffeyville, Kan. Hailstones measuring 4 1/2 inches across also were >>> > found in Aurora. >>> > >>> > "When it came down it looked just like someone dropping volleyballs >>> > down," said Dale Obermeier, a weather service spotter in Aurora who >>> > said the hail dug craters in his yard. He said one resident reported >>> > the hail punched a hole in his roof that was large enough for him to >>> > crawl through. >>> > >>> > Some hints of the elusive "warm trench" cloud top signature surrounding >>> > the coldest overshooting tops >>> > a couple of hours prior to the beast emitting the large hail: >>> > >>> > ftp://ftp.ssec.wisc.edu/pub/ssec/scottb/030623_N15_IR4.GIF >>> > >>> > 2003 is shaping up to be The Year of the Big Hailstone... >>> > >>> > -- > > Scott Bachmeier University of Wisconsin - Madison / SSEC / CIMSS > > scott.bachmeier at ssec.wisc.edu http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~scottb > > =================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ =================================================================== at : "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Coldest night Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:19:09 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 1.5 degrees recorded here in Hornsby Heights last night. The coldest night so far & suprising as it was quiet cloudy when I woke up around 8am? Damian 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.38.81.162] X-Originating-Email: [wa_tornado at hotmail.com] at : "John Roenfeldt" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: record hail size reported in Nebraska Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:15:29 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2003 08:15:30.0463 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6C862F0:01C33A28] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, Jimmy That is a very nice Hail stone for sure. Apparently this is the picture of it. http://66.180.7.47/np_0/large/623jbhail.jpg regards, John > at : Jimmy Deguara >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: record hail size reported in Nebraska >Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:45:50 +1000 > >Hi Michael, > >Yes - interesting story. My father did suggest once that Kellyville during >a hailstone reported a particularly large sized hailstone that impressed >into the ground many years ago. So this behaviour does make sense. I also >wonder if this behaviour also existed during the Sydney hailstorm. And also >that report in China a few years ago. > >Jimmy Deguara > >At 07:09 AM 24/6/2003 +1000, you wrote: > > > >>> > First Key West FL back in April...now a record-smashing hailstone in >>> > Nebraska: >>> > >>> > > PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT...CORRECTION >>> > > NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HASTINGS NE >>> > > 1027 AM CDT MON JUN 23 2003 >>> > > >>> > > TIME(CDT) .....CITY LOCATION..... STATE ...EVENT/REMARKS... >>> > > ....COUNTY LOCATION.... >>> > > >>> > > 0955 PM AURORA NE 6.5 INCH DIAMETER HAIL >>> > > 06/22/03 HAMILTON 17 3/8 INCH CIRCUMFERENCE >>> > > REPORTED BY STORM >>> > > SPOTTER. HOLES IN >>> > > NEIGHBORS ROOF BIG >>> > > ENOUGH TO CRAWL THROUGH. >>> > >>> > at an AP story on the event.: >>> > >>> > Gov. Mike Johanns toured Deshler on Monday and declared the county a >>> > disaster area. >>> > >>> > At least one hailstone that fell during the storm in Aurora, near >>>Grand >>> > Island, was the size of a cantaloupe, measuring 6 1/2 inches in >>> > diameter, said Ryan McCammon, a weather service meteorologist in >>> > Hastings. A resident put it into a freezer soon after it fell, and the >>> > weather service sent a team to confirm the size. >>> > >>> > That's the largest ever recorded in Nebraska, and just one-eighth of >>>an >>> > inch smaller than the national record holder, which was found in 1970 >>> > at Coffeyville, Kan. Hailstones measuring 4 1/2 inches across also >>>were >>> > found in Aurora. >>> > >>> > "When it came down it looked just like someone dropping volleyballs >>> > down," said Dale Obermeier, a weather service spotter in Aurora who >>> > said the hail dug craters in his yard. He said one resident reported >>> > the hail punched a hole in his roof that was large enough for him to >>> > crawl through. >>> > >>> > Some hints of the elusive "warm trench" cloud top signature >>>surrounding >>> > the coldest overshooting tops >>> > a couple of hours prior to the beast emitting the large hail: >>> > >>> > ftp://ftp.ssec.wisc.edu/pub/ssec/scottb/030623_N15_IR4.GIF >>> > >>> > 2003 is shaping up to be The Year of the Big Hailstone... >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Scott Bachmeier University of Wisconsin - Madison / SSEC / CIMSS >>> > scott.bachmeier at ssec.wisc.edu http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~scottb >>> > >> >> >> =================================================================== >> Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au >> McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ >> North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ >> Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ >> =================================================================== > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=174&referral=Hotmail_taglines_plain&URL=http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Tuan Phan" To: Subject: aus-wx: East Coast Low Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 06:13:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, Just noticed that the latest run of mesolaps has gone nuts with a 'bomb' low on the E coast. For the 12z analysis, there was no real sign of anything at the surface. By 18z, a low was analysed at 1006hPa. Mesolaps has gone for it to be 985hPa by 00z on the 26th!!! The mesolaps hourly rainfall is also showing possible flooding to the region as well. It would be interesting to see what the latest US run has for same time (due to arrival ~1/2hr at time of writing). Interestingly, the EC managed to form quite a strong low at +120Hr but had it slightly more off the coast. Qld office has already put out warnings already on the situation. cheers, tuan Amendment: Just in is the US & UK +36Hr. Slightly different story. US has low of 1005, while UK is going for 1003. Both are going for the low to be ~4Deg further out to sea (which changes to forecast greatly). Funily, the thermal pattern for all 3 is identical but MSLP differ quite a bit. (Gasp appears to be hedging it's bet between Mesolaps & US/UK) I guess now wait to see what the EC does! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Hear the one about volleyball-size hail? Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:28:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hear the one about volleyball-size hail?
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_np=0&u_pg=36&u_sid=778750

 
 

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at : "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: aus-wx: Upper vorticity NSW/Qld Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:58:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Interesting to see the development of upper vorticity over northern New South Wales and southern Queensland...looks like we have another gypsy........stay tuned for further developments..... Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky and Weather www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward.*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Doug's Electronics" To: Subject: aus-wx: South-West WA Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:12:35 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some good falls of rain have been recorded in the SW of WA with Bunbury recording 84mm. More falls of 50mm were recorded in near-by areas. Falls around perth got to around the 20mm mark. Winds have been Nw'ly gusting to 45 knots along the coast, no rain has fallen in perth today, but some lines of showers are now approaching. Winds and showers should somewhat ease later tomorrow. Kirk Austin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: East Coast Low Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:37:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Very interesting situation indeed. Heavy showers in the Illawarra at present 8.30pm - we tend to do well in these situations with a combination of escarpment lift and a more N to S straightening of the coast, often better than areas closer to the actual low. Look for decent falls around Albion Park ( Wollongong AWS ) and Robertson. North at about Nelson Bay the falls will be higher. The seas should make be high all along the NSW coast Friday, even Sydney / Illawarra. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Tuan Phan" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:13 AM Subject: aus-wx: East Coast Low > > Hi everyone, > > Just noticed that the latest run of mesolaps has gone nuts with a 'bomb' low > on the E coast. > > For the 12z analysis, there was no real sign of anything at the surface. By > 18z, a low was analysed at 1006hPa. Mesolaps has gone for it to be 985hPa by > 00z on the 26th!!! The mesolaps hourly rainfall is also showing possible > flooding to the region as well. > > It would be interesting to see what the latest US run has for same time (due > to arrival ~1/2hr at time of writing). Interestingly, the EC managed to form > quite a strong low at +120Hr but had it slightly more off the coast. > > Qld office has already put out warnings already on the situation. > > cheers, > tuan > > Amendment: Just in is the US & UK +36Hr. Slightly different story. US has > low of 1005, while UK is going for 1003. Both are going for the low to be > ~4Deg further out to sea (which changes to forecast greatly). Funily, the > thermal pattern for all 3 is identical but MSLP differ quite a bit. (Gasp > appears to be hedging it's bet between Mesolaps & US/UK) > > I guess now wait to see what the EC does! > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.138.156.104] X-Originating-Email: [mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] at : "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: East Coast Low Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 21:22:10 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2003 11:22:10.0760 (UTC) FILETIME=[0517D480:01C33B0C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tuan and all We in Canberra are watching this with interest as a sucession of East Coast Lows may form this winter with the Anticyclone belt well south of normal .It is no good for rain in our region during winters when they occur Bad for snow too!. I have noticed over the years since I became involved in weather in a big way (mid 1960's ) that some years they are very frequent , i think usually el nino years , we have drought winters in those years. We are concerned. Any comments would be welcome Gavin O'Brien SSWW Canberra > at : "Tuan Phan" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: East Coast Low >Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 06:13:25 +1000 > > >Hi everyone, > >Just noticed that the latest run of mesolaps has gone nuts with a 'bomb' >low >on the E coast. > >For the 12z analysis, there was no real sign of anything at the surface. By >18z, a low was analysed at 1006hPa. Mesolaps has gone for it to be 985hPa >by >00z on the 26th!!! The mesolaps hourly rainfall is also showing possible >flooding to the region as well. > >It would be interesting to see what the latest US run has for same time >(due >to arrival ~1/2hr at time of writing). Interestingly, the EC managed to >form >quite a strong low at +120Hr but had it slightly more off the coast. > >Qld office has already put out warnings already on the situation. > >cheers, >tuan > >Amendment: Just in is the US & UK +36Hr. Slightly different story. US has >low of 1005, while UK is going for 1003. Both are going for the low to be >~4Deg further out to sea (which changes to forecast greatly). Funily, the >thermal pattern for all 3 is identical but MSLP differ quite a bit. (Gasp >appears to be hedging it's bet between Mesolaps & US/UK) > >I guess now wait to see what the EC does! > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Robert M" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: (Off topic) Lake Eildon X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 203.134.94.72 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:59:04 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - neptune.hiddenservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [1875 1885] / [1875 1885] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - neptune.hiddenservers.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. I just like to know if anyone has pic`s of it how it is ATM...Mum took some photo`s of it as well as the pondage in the 80s and i will scan them later when i have time. Cheers --------------------------- Nick name: Weathernut Real name: Robert M Web site: http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com Email: weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com --------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 04:37:24 +1000 at : Anthony Cornelius Subject: aus-wx: [Fwd: [Lightning] Hit by lightning!] To: Aus-wx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This is around 4mb...all I can say is wow! The CG strikes the tree behind her, with some video interference at the CG. AC -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Lightning] Hit by lightning! Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:28:16 -0400 at : "Kilpatrick, Natalie T." Reply-To: Lightning at yahoogroups.com Organization: StormPhotography.net To: lightning at yahoogroups.com Yeah, okay, so I shouldn't be excited, but it was weird. If you'd like to download video to see me kinda sorta getting hit by a CG, go here: http://www.stormphotography.net/chasevideos/Mov82.mpg There *are* swear words in this video, SORRY! I will warn you now. Just the S word, tho, I think. Anyway... I'm not hurt, just got a buzz like when touching an electric fence. I could really feel it through my sunglasses which were perched upon my head, tho. That's it for now. No tornado baggin' for me, just CG baggin... -Natalie Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Tuan Phan" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: East Coast Low Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:14:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Gavin & others, I haven't been observing wx long enough to notice any trend or add any more useful comments regarding links with El Nino events. The current situation feels really like summer, despite being a few days past winter solstice. It now does appear that mesolaps did over reacted. The low is analysised at 1004 for the 18z and expected to deepen ~1000 by 00z. It should deepen further tonight but too far away at the coast to have a significant impact. regards, tuan -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Gavin O'Brien Sent: Wednesday, 25 June 2003 21:22 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: East Coast Low Hi Tuan and all We in Canberra are watching this with interest as a sucession of East Coast Lows may form this winter with the Anticyclone belt well south of normal .It is no good for rain in our region during winters when they occur Bad for snow too!. I have noticed over the years since I became involved in weather in a big way (mid 1960's ) that some years they are very frequent , i think usually el nino years , we have drought winters in those years. We are concerned. Any comments would be welcome Gavin O'Brien SSWW Canberra > at : "Tuan Phan" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: East Coast Low >Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 06:13:25 +1000 > > >Hi everyone, > >Just noticed that the latest run of mesolaps has gone nuts with a 'bomb' >low >on the E coast. > >For the 12z analysis, there was no real sign of anything at the surface. By >18z, a low was analysed at 1006hPa. Mesolaps has gone for it to be 985hPa >by >00z on the 26th!!! The mesolaps hourly rainfall is also showing possible >flooding to the region as well. > >It would be interesting to see what the latest US run has for same time >(due >to arrival ~1/2hr at time of writing). Interestingly, the EC managed to >form >quite a strong low at +120Hr but had it slightly more off the coast. > >Qld office has already put out warnings already on the situation. > >cheers, >tuan > >Amendment: Just in is the US & UK +36Hr. Slightly different story. US has >low of 1005, while UK is going for 1003. Both are going for the low to be >~4Deg further out to sea (which changes to forecast greatly). Funily, the >thermal pattern for all 3 is identical but MSLP differ quite a bit. (Gasp >appears to be hedging it's bet between Mesolaps & US/UK) > >I guess now wait to see what the EC does! > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Chas Osborn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: South-West WA Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 08:14:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks for the report Kirk. Chas Bedourie Qld ----- Original Message ----- at : "Doug's Electronics" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:12 PM Subject: aus-wx: South-West WA > Some good falls of rain have been recorded in the SW of WA with Bunbury > recording 84mm. More falls of 50mm were recorded in near-by areas. > > Falls around perth got to around the 20mm mark. > > Winds have been Nw'ly gusting to 45 knots along the coast, no rain has > fallen in perth today, but some lines of showers are now approaching. Winds > and showers should somewhat ease later tomorrow. > > Kirk Austin > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:31:17 +0200 (CEST) at : Robert Goler To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: (Off topic) Lake Eildon X-MIME-Autoconverted: at QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by europe.std.com id EAA22686 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Robert > Hi all. I just like to know if anyone has pic`s of it how it is > ATM...Mum took some photo`s of it as well as the pondage in the 80s > and i will scan them later when i have time. Here are some pics a friend of mine took during a field trip to Lake Eildon in April last year. http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~thomas/Thomas-Home/down-under/lake_eildon/bilder/lakei_05.jpg http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~thomas/Thomas-Home/down-under/lake_eildon/bilder/lakei_04.jpg Cheers -- Robert A. Goler Meteorologisches Institut München Theresienstr. 37 D-80333 München Tel.: +49 89 2180 4387 Fax.: +49 89 2180 4182 http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Very cold max`s and gloomy weather NSW and VIC. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:47:33 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Yesterdays high 9.8c lastnights min 7.5c Todays high was a cold 8.6c > Griffith NSW had a max of 10.1c which is 7c below the average. > > http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/gloom/ > There have been a few episodes of very cold max temps in southern NSW/northern Victoria (and adjacent parts of SA) as a result of persistent low cloud/fog. Yesterday was particularly notable with four locations setting all-time record low maxima: Swan Hill 7* (previously 7.5) Ouyen 7.3 (previously 7.8) Lameroo 7.7 (previously 7.8) Balranald 7.1 (previously 7.5) * Swan Hill AWS only reports maxima to whole degrees - there was an observation of 7.3 at 1600 yesterday so the max must have been either 7.3 or 7.4, but that's still a record. Note, though, that Mildura (which was out of the fog and got to 11.9), which has digital daily records going back into the 19th century, has had a max of 2.8 in 1900 (nothing under 7.9 since 1926, though). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.138.156.212] X-Originating-Email: [mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] at : "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: East Coast Low Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 19:50:43 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2003 09:50:43.0909 (UTC) FILETIME=[69168F50:01C33BC8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Tuan, Agreed, Lord Howe seems to be feeling most impact with gales noted in their obs this afternoon.It seems that the pattern might break if the depression south of W.A moves east over the weekend, but I am not confident that drought breaking rain is coming anytime soon for us at least. Gavin > at : "Tuan Phan" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: RE: aus-wx: East Coast Low >Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:14:23 +1000 > >Gavin & others, > >I haven't been observing wx long enough to notice any trend or add any more >useful comments regarding links with El Nino events. The current situation >feels really like summer, despite being a few days past winter solstice. > >It now does appear that mesolaps did over reacted. The low is analysised at >1004 for the 18z and expected to deepen ~1000 by 00z. It should deepen >further tonight but too far away at the coast to have a significant >impact. > >regards, >tuan > > >-----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Gavin O'Brien >Sent: Wednesday, 25 June 2003 21:22 >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: East Coast Low > > >Hi Tuan and all >We in Canberra are watching this with interest as a sucession of East Coast >Lows may form this winter with the Anticyclone belt well south of normal >.It is no good for rain in our region during winters when they occur Bad >for >snow too!. I have noticed over the years since I became involved in weather >in a big way (mid 1960's ) that some years they are very frequent , i think >usually el nino years , we have drought winters in those years. We are >concerned. Any comments would be welcome >Gavin O'Brien >SSWW Canberra > > > > at : "Tuan Phan" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: > >Subject: aus-wx: East Coast Low > >Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 06:13:25 +1000 > > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > >Just noticed that the latest run of mesolaps has gone nuts with a 'bomb' > >low > >on the E coast. > > > >For the 12z analysis, there was no real sign of anything at the surface. >By > >18z, a low was analysed at 1006hPa. Mesolaps has gone for it to be 985hPa > >by > >00z on the 26th!!! The mesolaps hourly rainfall is also showing possible > >flooding to the region as well. > > > >It would be interesting to see what the latest US run has for same time > >(due > >to arrival ~1/2hr at time of writing). Interestingly, the EC managed to > >form > >quite a strong low at +120Hr but had it slightly more off the coast. > > > >Qld office has already put out warnings already on the situation. > > > >cheers, > >tuan > > > >Amendment: Just in is the US & UK +36Hr. Slightly different story. US has > >low of 1005, while UK is going for 1003. Both are going for the low to be > >~4Deg further out to sea (which changes to forecast greatly). Funily, the > >thermal pattern for all 3 is identical but MSLP differ quite a bit. (Gasp > >appears to be hedging it's bet between Mesolaps & US/UK) > > > >I guess now wait to see what the EC does! > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to >http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=174&referral=Hotmail_taglines_plain&URL=http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Indian Ocean Satellite Imagery Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 20:54:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Have just found a couple of images of the Indian Ocean that I thought I'd share with everyone because they are so good and Indian Ocean satellite imagery is hard to get...anyone got any more to share???? Infrared http://www.imd.ernet.in/section/satmet/img/globe-ir.jpg Water Vapour http://www.imd.ernet.in/section/satmet/img/globe-wv.jpg Visible http://www.imd.ernet.in/section/satmet/img/globe-vis.jpg Enjoy!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Robert M" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: (Off topic) Lake Eildon X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 203.134.94.76 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 07:02:02 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - neptune.hiddenservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [1875 1885] / [1875 1885] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - neptune.hiddenservers.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just scanned them up and uploading. (I think they were taken in 1985/1986) http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/eildon/leildon00.jpg http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/eildon/leildon01.jpg http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/eildon/leildon02.jpg http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/eildon/leildon03.jpg http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/eildon/leildon04.jpg http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/eildon/leildon05.jpg http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/eildon/leildon06.jpg http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/eildon/leildon07.jpg > > Hey Robert > > > Hi all. I just like to know if anyone has pic`s of it how it is > > ATM...Mum took some photo`s of it as well as the pondage in the 80s > > and i will scan them later when i have time. > > Here are some pics a friend of mine took during a field trip to Lake > Eildon in April last year. > http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~thomas/Thomas-Home/down- under/lake_eildon/bilder/lakei_05.jpg > http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~thomas/Thomas-Home/down- under/lake_eildon/bilder/lakei_04.jpg > > > Cheers > > -- > Robert A. Goler > > Meteorologisches Institut München > Theresienstr. 37 > D-80333 München > Tel.: +49 89 2180 4387 > Fax.: +49 89 2180 4182 > > http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~robert/ > -- > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- --- > > --------------------------- Nick name: Weathernut Real name: Robert M Web site: http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com Email: weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com --------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:20:43 +0800 at : "Phil Smith" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Equinoxial Gales of SW Victoria X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com When I lived in the town of Terang in South Western Victoria during the 1950s, we were hit every year by winds described as the "Equinoxial Gales". Does anybody know what the highest wind speeds recorded during these events are/were? I do recall that the year when we lost several of the windows in our house and the chook-house roof blew off, the Weather Bureau described the winds as "Hurricane Force". Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: aus-wx: Off topic but very interesting 50 Favourite AAO Images Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:45:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Everyone,
 
Some of you will probably be interested in some ot the pictures on this site  -  the Aurora Australis at Sidings Springs and a couple of spectacular pictures of the Moon and Sun setting.
 
Judy Mayo
X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 12:29:03 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : Jacob Subject: aus-wx: STA Perth Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com There has been some reports of a possible tornado in the western suburbs this morning. Quite a bit of storms overnight here in Perth! More expected later today. PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE Issued at 9:30 am WST on Friday, 27 June 2003 People in the Lower West and Southwest Districts are advised that there is a risk of severe thunderstorms later today. Storms may be accompanied by strong winds and flash flooding that could result in damage to property. Severe storms have caused wind damage to properties in Mandurah, Scarborough and Osborne Park earlier this morning, with wind gusts recorded to 111 kilometres per hour. Although the risk of severe thunderstorms has eased temporarily, the risk increases again by this evening as a low approaches slowly at the west. The State Emergency Service advises that people should keep a lookout for thunderstorms and if storms approach secure loose items, move vehicles under cover, then stay indoors until the storms have passed. Driving conditions may be hazardous. This Thunderstorm Advice will be updated by 3pm. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 02:57:27 +1000 To: aussie-weather-list at : Carl Smith Subject: aus-wx: the "Weather Bomb" and 'the Duck'. X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at qld.chariot.net.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. Thursday was rather windy on the Gold Coast as 'the Duck' passed by headed S ... if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... :-) During the afternoon what news reports called a "Weather Bomb" exploded over NE NSW and the Gold Coast, dumping torrential rains over NE NSW and thrashing the Gold Coast with gales. at early afternoon SW winds were gusting to gale force here, and by mid-afternoon it was as dark as if it was twilight and the wind was cyclonic in the wind squalls, thrashing the trees around and stripping leaves and small branches at some - I estimate that some of the gusts approached 130 km/hr the way the trees were bending / thrashing. The power failed about 4 pm and the battering continued until after 5 pm, easing off as it got dark. The power was restored here at about 6:15 pm. You will find a colourised Vis-IR composite satpic at: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/imagescurrent/theDuck200306260130iv.jpg captured at 11:30 am AEST of the 26th just as the "Weather Bomb" was beginning to 'explode' over NE NSW and the Gold Coast - you can see the well defined partially exposed LLCC of 'the Duck' revealing it's cyclonic nature as it passed by. The original Vis and IR images were downloaded at the BoM 72hr archive. Also, you will find a WV-IR composite satpic at: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/imagescurrent/theDuck200306260625wi.jpg captured at 4:25 pm AEST when the Gold Coast was getting pounded - what is interesting in this image is the upper low that has been hanging around inland NSW / Qld for some days revealed clearly by the WV channel as it passed out to sea N of Brisbane. This upper system appears to have set up the conditions upstairs that enabled the "Weather Bomb" to 'explode'. The original WV and IR images were downloaded at CIMSS. I have put a multispectral satpic loop of the "Weather Bomb" and the 'Duck' at: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/imagescurrent/theDuckAnim.gif [~1.2MB]. The image quality suffers a little in the conversion into GIF format by dithering at thousands to 256 colours - I tried it without the dithering but the posterisation artifacts completely changed the appearance of the images by creating many odd shapes that masked the natural patterns. The original full disk images were downloaded at the NPMOC archive. Regards, Carl. -- Carl Smith, Gold Coast, Qld., Australia. carls at qldnet.com.au For links to current tropical cyclone information: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: "aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic. Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 11:52:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com After all the high pressure control over southern Aus over the past two months, we now have a rare syynoptic set up across the Australian region with the baric ridge over the top end and a belt of lows along the south coast ,its been a long time since I have seen such a set-up, although the explanation appears to be a large scale cut off process with another high south of Aus at almost 60 south. regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic. Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:37:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Same (or similar) thing happened in late May and into June 1963. A series of low pressures moved across land with a high pressure belt to the south and at least one of the lows formed a 'bomb' just south of Sydney with flood rain on the south coast. Need to get hold of a scanner and copy the relevant charts of which I have newspaper clippings. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Clyve Herbert" To: "aussie weather" Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:52 AM Subject: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic. > After all the high pressure control over southern Aus over the past two > months, we now have a rare syynoptic set up across the Australian region > with the baric ridge over the top end and a belt of lows along the south > coast ,its been a long time since I have seen such a set-up, although the > explanation appears to be a large scale cut off process with another high > south of Aus at almost 60 south. regards Clyve H. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Perth's past humidity history Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 23:12:22 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Received this email via my website today. Does anybody have any suggestions? ------------------------------------- Hi, I stumbled on your website whilst trying to find info on humidity on particular days in perth where I am located. All the weather sites are fine for forcast info but can't seem to find any past information. This is required for an assignment for a student at overseas who is staying with us. I would appreciate any sites you may know of where I can obtain this data. By the way, it's a great website and good luck with it. All the Best Phil ------------------------------------- If you wish to reply to them directly their return address is pgf at eftel.com Regs, Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Perth's past humidity history Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 00:15:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Stargazer, The Weatherunderground.com website has an extensive archive of observations for Perth at this address http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/station/94610/2003/6/28/DailyHisto ry.html Dating back to 1994 by the looks of it, although it can be a bit patchy. Hopefully there's enough there for him though. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:42 PM Subject: aus-wx: Perth's past humidity history > Received this email via my website today. Does anybody have any suggestions? > > ------------------------------------- > Hi, I stumbled on your website whilst trying to find info on humidity on > particular days in perth where I am located. All the weather sites are fine > for forcast info but can't seem to find any past information. This is > required for an assignment for a student at overseas who is staying with > us. > I would appreciate any sites you may know of where I can obtain this data. > By the way, it's a great website and good luck with it. > > All the Best > > Phil > ------------------------------------- > > If you wish to reply to them directly their return address is > pgf at eftel.com > > Regs, Paul. > (Stargazer) > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Perth's past humidity history Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:44:34 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Ben, I'll pass it on :) Regs, Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- at : "Ben Quinn" To: Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:45 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Perth's past humidity history > G'day Stargazer, > > The Weatherunderground.com website has an extensive archive of observations > for Perth at this address > > http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/station/94610/2003/6/28/DailyHisto > ry.html > > Dating back to 1994 by the looks of it, although it can be a bit patchy. > Hopefully there's enough there for him though. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Stargazer" > To: "Aussie-Weather" > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:42 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Perth's past humidity history > > > > Received this email via my website today. Does anybody have any > suggestions? > > > > ------------------------------------- > > Hi, I stumbled on your website whilst trying to find info on humidity on > > particular days in perth where I am located. All the weather sites are > fine > > for forcast info but can't seem to find any past information. This is > > required for an assignment for a student at overseas who is staying with > > us. > > I would appreciate any sites you may know of where I can obtain this data. > > By the way, it's a great website and good luck with it. > > > > All the Best > > > > Phil > > ------------------------------------- > > > > If you wish to reply to them directly their return address is > > pgf at eftel.com > > > > Regs, Paul. > > (Stargazer) > > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.109.249.138] X-Originating-Email: [jimboharr at hotmail.com] at : "James Harris" To: Subject: aus-wx: Reminder - ASWA Conference rsvp due 8 July Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:55:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2003 06:55:50.0010 (UTC) FILETIME=[7979E5A0:01C33E0B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, There is only 8 more days to get your rsvp in for this years ASWA conference If you havent done so already then make sure you get your rsvp email into aswaconference at hotmail.com to reserve your seat at this years conference. Full details , costs , times etc can be found on the following link http://www.severeweather.asn.au/conference/agm2003.htm The ASWA conference is open to ANY weather enthusiast and is a great way to meet up with other like minded people. Friends, Relatives, partners etc are more than welcome to attend as well. We hope to see you there :) James ASWA & Conference Committee +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie-Wx" Subject: aus-wx: Spanish tornadoes. 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at : "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Scientists discover unknown type of lightning Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 23:01:24 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://www.adn.com/24hour/healthscience/story/927304p-6460385c.html Regs, Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Tuan Phan" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic. Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:54:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Clyve, Keith & others, I brought what you both said up in a chart discussion. It resulted in a bit of discussion with people running around checking their sources & racking through their memories for similar events. Keith - Outstanding memory! The May 28, 1963 synoptic has a strong resembalance (Searching through scanned manual MSLPs). The 'bomb' you mentioned dropped 83.3mm over Sydney later on the June 5. Someone else remembered a similar event back in May, 1956. Searching revealed that the May 12 anal matched the current situation strongly as well. Unfortunately, the charts are not avail to public yet & can't attach them to this group. If people are interested to know what the charts look like, the NCEP reanalysis database is useful: http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/Composites/Day/ Or email me personally and I will get them to you asap. regards, tuan -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Keith Barnett Sent: Saturday, 28 June 2003 15:37 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic. Same (or similar) thing happened in late May and into June 1963. A series of low pressures moved across land with a high pressure belt to the south and at least one of the lows formed a 'bomb' just south of Sydney with flood rain on the south coast. Need to get hold of a scanner and copy the relevant charts of which I have newspaper clippings. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Clyve Herbert" To: "aussie weather" Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:52 AM Subject: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic. > After all the high pressure control over southern Aus over the past two > months, we now have a rare syynoptic set up across the Australian region > with the baric ridge over the top end and a belt of lows along the south > coast ,its been a long time since I have seen such a set-up, although the > explanation appears to be a large scale cut off process with another high > south of Aus at almost 60 south. regards Clyve H. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:46:52 +1000 at : Keith Barnett Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tuan, Thanks for your post..I j\had no idea such charts could be obtained! How do you get Australia to come up on that website? The only way I could do it was to enter a custom setup but then it only brought up one date despite entering a range. I have been wanting to get hold of surface charts since 1950 as I only have then in the Monthly Weather Reviews since May 1968. I am very interested in the maps for rain events back in those days especially June 1950, February 1954 and 1956 and November 1961 (and quite a few others!) Thanks...Keith B. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Tuan Phan" To: Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 1:54 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic. > Hi Clyve, Keith & others, > > I brought what you both said up in a chart discussion. It resulted in a bit > of discussion with people running around checking their sources & racking > through their memories for similar events. > > Keith - Outstanding memory! The May 28, 1963 synoptic has a strong > resembalance (Searching through scanned manual MSLPs). The 'bomb' you > mentioned dropped 83.3mm over Sydney later on the June 5. > > Someone else remembered a similar event back in May, 1956. Searching > revealed that the May 12 anal matched the current situation strongly as > well. > > Unfortunately, the charts are not avail to public yet & can't attach them to > this group. If people are interested to know what the charts look like, the > NCEP reanalysis database is useful: > > http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/Composites/Day/ > > Or email me personally and I will get them to you asap. > > regards, > tuan > > > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Keith Barnett > Sent: Saturday, 28 June 2003 15:37 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic. > > > Same (or similar) thing happened in late May and into June 1963. A series of > low pressures moved across land with a high pressure belt to the south and > at least one of the lows formed a 'bomb' just south of Sydney with flood > rain on the south coast. > Need to get hold of a scanner and copy the relevant charts of which I have > newspaper clippings. > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "Clyve Herbert" > To: "aussie weather" > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:52 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic. > > > > After all the high pressure control over southern Aus over the past two > > months, we now have a rare syynoptic set up across the Australian region > > with the baric ridge over the top end and a belt of lows along the south > > coast ,its been a long time since I have seen such a set-up, although the > > explanation appears to be a large scale cut off process with another high > > south of Aus at almost 60 south. regards Clyve H. > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.138.156.80] X-Originating-Email: [mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] at : "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic. Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:58:45 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2003 13:58:46.0492 (UTC) FILETIME=[B97381C0:01C33F0F] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Tuan, I can certainly remember the 1963 event as I was at Boarding College in Sydney.The main building received roof damage and flooded dormatories and a lot of wind blew during the night.I can remember the clearance of the weather around dawn (as the centre moved south of Sydney) I did n't realise it was such an intense fall in pressure.I can also rember a two low event in the early 70's when an intense low reached 987 Hpa just east of Sydney.That depression moved at NW N.S.W. and crossed the coast near Newcastle. I have a barograpgh trace in my records but not the time to find it! Gavin Canberra > at : "Tuan Phan" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic. >Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:54:58 +1000 > >Hi Clyve, Keith & others, > >I brought what you both said up in a chart discussion. It resulted in a bit >of discussion with people running around checking their sources & racking >through their memories for similar events. > >Keith - Outstanding memory! The May 28, 1963 synoptic has a strong >resembalance (Searching through scanned manual MSLPs). The 'bomb' you >mentioned dropped 83.3mm over Sydney later on the June 5. > >Someone else remembered a similar event back in May, 1956. Searching >revealed that the May 12 anal matched the current situation strongly as >well. > >Unfortunately, the charts are not avail to public yet & can't attach them >to >this group. If people are interested to know what the charts look like, the >NCEP reanalysis database is useful: > >http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/Composites/Day/ > >Or email me personally and I will get them to you asap. > >regards, >tuan > > >-----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Keith Barnett >Sent: Saturday, 28 June 2003 15:37 >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic. > > >Same (or similar) thing happened in late May and into June 1963. A series >of >low pressures moved across land with a high pressure belt to the south and >at least one of the lows formed a 'bomb' just south of Sydney with flood >rain on the south coast. >Need to get hold of a scanner and copy the relevant charts of which I have >newspaper clippings. >----- Original Message ----- > at : "Clyve Herbert" >To: "aussie weather" >Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:52 AM >Subject: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic. > > > > After all the high pressure control over southern Aus over the past two > > months, we now have a rare syynoptic set up across the Australian region > > with the baric ridge over the top end and a belt of lows along the south > > coast ,its been a long time since I have seen such a set-up, although >the > > explanation appears to be a large scale cut off process with another >high > > south of Aus at almost 60 south. regards Clyve H. > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. 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