http://australiasevereweather.com/ From: "Steve Baynham" To: "weather" Subject: aus-wx: dont ya hate that! eclipse link Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 01:15:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://www.csiro.au/helix/eclipse/ Steve Baynham icq : 26863574 Brisbane Storm Chasers http://www.bsch.au.com Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au Homepage http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie-Wx" Subject: aus-wx: Archiving Radar etc etc Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 02:24:41 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
I thought I would post this little trick for archiving radar and Lightning tracker images, useful for chasers who need radar archived while chasing.
 
Firstly Get OPERA, a free web browser, avail at www.opera.com they have V7.0 beta 1 available but I recommend getting V6 as beta versions always have bugs. Version 6 is here: ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/opera/win/605/ en/ Java version comes with Java runtime, and is ~11meg, Standard doesn’t have java and is ~3.5meg.
For BoM radar you don’t need java, but for WZ animators you do, but more on WZ and animators shortly.
 
Once installed, open opera and go to file/preferences (or Alt+P)
Look toward the bottom of the left menu for “History and Cache” and select it.
In the top right hand corner of the right side you will see “Disk Cache”.
This is where you can set the amount of disk space the cache will take up. I have it set on 20000kb (or 200meg) and all but “empty on exit” ticked. Have a look at other options here and set them to your desire.
 
Once adjusted open your radar loop/s from the BoM and opera allows multiple pages within the browser interface so you can basically open all radars if you like.
 
The radars update and opera saves every image in the directory c:/program files/opera/cache4/
This is the directory to go to when retrieving the images. Now opera saves them as a really weird name so the next thing you will need is a directory viewer that includes “image properties” Windows explorer doesn’t have it so I recommend ACDSee, available from here: http://www.acdsystems.com/ this has image properties functions.
 
Now for getting the files, the easiest way is using the image properties look for files that are 524*564*64 gif files. If you click the image properties column header in ACDSee it will sort them out for you, select all the radar files and move them to your desired directory.
 
Now the stupid naming is crazy so you can either rename them your self or leave them, the way you can tell the date/time of the images is the “last modified” details.
 
That’s all I can think of regarding BoM Radar.
Now to the weatherzone. Its radar auto updates as well, but because the file name is the same every time, it just re-saves every image over the last one, or so it seems to me. I’ve always had trouble with archiving WZ radar and Lighting trackers. Perhaps you can do it with a Download client like get right, set it to download every ten minutes and rename the files but I am unsure of this.
The only time WZ images save individually is from the animators but the problem here is the Background is a sperate image, and the radar echo’s are a PNG file that has transparent elements in it, I have been unable thus far to make an animation work with the using the images and background.
 
The only Lighting tracker that i'm sure works is this one http://www.northpower.com.au/ss/s_tracker.html and this animation from Tuesday is a result of archiving the files: www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/anim-st-26nov.gif
Also Energex’s storm tracker seems to archive as well, I don’t use it that much tho, so I can’t say for sure (Energex: http://www.energex.com.au/community/lightning_tracker/asp/lightningtracker.asp )
 
If you have any questions then just ask me.
 
 

Cheers
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Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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X-Originating-IP: [144.138.240.201] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: SEQ rain Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 11:10:29 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Dec 2002 00:10:29.0690 (UTC) FILETIME=[0EB011A0:01C298CE] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com John, Glad you are getting some rain. We have had some very gusty storms but very little rain 6.9 mm for November at Gilmore but other areas may have had more from th e storms of the last few days. Did people on the list see the film of the Griffith (NSW) Dust storm? I lived there from 1948 to 1965 (Brought up there) I would have to go back to the 1950's for a scene like I saw last night! The area shot was from the lookout on Scienic Hill looking south west. The horizon would be about 25 km away on a clear day. Gavin SSWW Canberra >From: "John Woodbridge" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: RE: aus-wx: SEQ rain >Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 09:25:08 +1000 > >Hi all, > >Further handy rain across much of SEQ last night, 19mm in the 6 hours from >6:00pm to midnight at Mt. Crosby. Drought breaking?? Well I'm not sure you >could officially call SEQ drought affected when compared to inland NSW, >although it has been well down on average YTD. > >With my total for November now 52.3mm (cf Nov Ipswich mean 77.7mm) it is >starting to look respectable, things are certainly greening up, and it was >nice this morning to wake up and still be on the "right side" of the trough >line with almost full overcast. > >Total YTD is now 495.8mm, which is running at about 64% of mean (Ipswich, >122 years). The total was helped by relatively good winter rain, both June >& August being above average. Sep and Oct were less than half of average, >but then, a tendency to spring time drought is not unusual in SEQ. > >John. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 12:27:46 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra 29th November 2002 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 02:53 AM 30/11/2002 +1000, you wrote: >You chose a chick over that kind of storm? Hahaha, Simon's priorities are all messed up. :-P 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: north brisbane warning Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:36:01 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com TOP PRIORITY SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane at 10:59am EST on Sunday the 1st of December 2002 For the Southeast coast [north of Brisbane], Wide Bay, Burnett and Capricornia districts. The Bureau of Meteorology advises people of the possibility of severe thunderstorms with damaging winds and possible hail over the southeast coast, north of Brisbane, Wide Bay, Burnett and Capricornia districts this afternoon. If severe thunderstorms develop then severe thunderstorm warnings will be issued. Updated information will be issued throughout the [6] on radio and will be available by telephone on 1196 for the cost of a local call and on 1900 969 921 at 77 cents per minute. 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its impossible to unsubscribe to your weather email for which i don't want,don't need.and wish someone at your end were smart enough to stop sending them to me. you people have one hellof a staff or too much time on your hands, i get your useless,senseless, and unwanted email every day every day. stop already.
From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Seven Hills data Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 13:26:17 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
November 2002.(One or two old records got a fright)
 
 
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From: "Liz Kennedy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:33:14 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Ahhhh, I'm afraid the lack of intelligence comes from "your end". You may note that at the bottom of each "useless, senseless and unwanted email" you recieve, there is an "UNSUBSCRIBE" link, which allows you to, ummmm, u-n-s-u-b-s-c-r-i-b-e!
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its impossible to unsubscribe to your weather email for which i don't want,don't need.and wish someone at your end were smart enough to stop sending them to me. you people have one hellof a staff or too much time on your hands, i get your useless,senseless, and unwanted email every day every day. stop already.
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 16:07:58 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 03:33 PM 1/12/2002 +1100, you wrote:

Ahhhh, I'm afraid the lack of intelligence comes from "your end". You may note that at the bottom of each "useless, senseless and unwanted email" you recieve, there is an "UNSUBSCRIBE" link, which allows you to, ummmm, u-n-s-u-b-s-c-r-i-b-e!

Actually, the ubsub instructions aren't coming through here.  Just letting you know...  Message below deliberately quoted in its entirety.

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To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning


its impossible to unsubscribe to your weather email for which i don't want,don't need.and wish someone at your end were smart enough to stop sending them to me. you people have one hellof a staff or too much time on your hands, i get your useless,senseless, and unwanted email every day every day. stop already.

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73 de Tony, VK3JED
http://vkradio.com From: "S. McGhee" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:33:26 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

I sent an unsub to the Majordomo with a CC to the offended party (and, I suspect, a net-newbie)
Hopefully, the "Major" will understand (I changed my reply-to) or failing that, JFHx6 will be able to workout what needs to be done from their end.
 
I should have pointed out that a sub request would have been made in the first place, but I think the gist would have been lost :)
 
To misquote a famous native American, "...I shall visit this thread no more, forever"
 
....And to qualify this for the WX list:  It's cloudy here.
 
Pete
 
 
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Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 6:07 PM
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At 03:33 PM 1/12/2002 +1100, you wrote:

Ahhhh, I'm afraid the lack of intelligence comes from "your end". You may note that at the bottom of each "useless, senseless and unwanted email" you recieve, there is an "UNSUBSCRIBE" link, which allows you to, ummmm, u-n-s-u-b-s-c-r-i-b-e!

Actually, the ubsub instructions aren't coming through here.  Just letting you know...  Message below deliberately quoted in its entirety.

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To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning


its impossible to unsubscribe to your weather email for which i don't want,don't need.and wish someone at your end were smart enough to stop sending them to me. you people have one hellof a staff or too much time on your hands, i get your useless,senseless, and unwanted email every day every day. stop already.

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From: "Steven Markham" To: Subject: RE: Spam Alert: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 16:34:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Did you subscribe in the first place? If so why? If you keep getting sent these unwanted e-mails you must have plenty in your inbox, try clicking on one, read to the bottom of the page, there you will find easy instructions on how to unsubscribe, that even a 5 year old could understand!

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of JFHx6 at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, 1 December 2002 1:18 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Spam Alert: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning

 


its impossible to unsubscribe to your weather email for which i don't want,don't need.and wish someone at your end were smart enough to stop sending them to me. you people have one hellof a staff or too much time on your hands, i get your useless,senseless, and unwanted email every day every day. stop already.

From: "S. McGhee" To: Subject: Re: Spam Alert: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:48:12 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Just heard back from the Major....
 
unsubscribe: 'JFHx6 at aol.com' is not a member of list 'aussie-weather'.
 
So either they finally worked it out, the list owners decided to get rid of this impolite AOLer, or they are trying to unsub from a different account name. (JFHx6:   Take note of the latter if you get this)
 
Still cloudy
Pete
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Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 6:34 PM
Subject: RE: Spam Alert: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning

Did you subscribe in the first place? If so why? If you keep getting sent these unwanted e-mails you must have plenty in your inbox, try clicking on one, read to the bottom of the page, there you will find easy instructions on how to unsubscribe, that even a 5 year old could understand!

 

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Sent: Sunday, 1 December 2002 1:18 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Spam Alert: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning

 


its impossible to unsubscribe to your weather email for which i don't want,don't need.and wish someone at your end were smart enough to stop sending them to me. you people have one hellof a staff or too much time on your hands, i get your useless,senseless, and unwanted email every day every day. stop already.

From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: Spam Alert: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:28:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI All.
 
As soon as this email came through.. i unsubscribed him straight away. which was at 1.29pm .. This is why it would show he is not a member.
 
I also sent an email to him directly, asking why the hell he subscribed in the first place..
 
So i dare say, he wont be getting any of these emails..
 
Farewell to him
 
Dave
 
----- Original Message -----
From: S. McGhee
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Spam Alert: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning

Just heard back from the Major....
 
unsubscribe: 'JFHx6 at aol.com' is not a member of list 'aussie-weather'.
 
So either they finally worked it out, the list owners decided to get rid of this impolite AOLer, or they are trying to unsub from a different account name. (JFHx6:   Take note of the latter if you get this)
 
Still cloudy
Pete
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 6:34 PM
Subject: RE: Spam Alert: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning

Did you subscribe in the first place? If so why? If you keep getting sent these unwanted e-mails you must have plenty in your inbox, try clicking on one, read to the bottom of the page, there you will find easy instructions on how to unsubscribe, that even a 5 year old could understand!

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of JFHx6 at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, 1 December 2002 1:18 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Spam Alert: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning

 


its impossible to unsubscribe to your weather email for which i don't want,don't need.and wish someone at your end were smart enough to stop sending them to me. you people have one hellof a staff or too much time on your hands, i get your useless,senseless, and unwanted email every day every day. stop already.

From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: introduction about stephen galowski Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 16:50:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I live in a suburb of brisbane I have always been interested in weather and it many hazards. I now own a weather station from this company as well . However I am now working with a company in brendale queensland which sell this type of equipment . I am also been asked to do software engineering for this company and also do qa on there equipment Stephen galowski +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 17:01:23 +1000 Subject: Re: Spam Alert: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com As a general rule i have worked out over time, messages to the list which are mailed in html format *groans* generally do not come complete with the unsubscribe option, however in a plain text format it will come up with the link below.. If one or 2 of those unwanted postings were actually read, a link might have been found, you dont have to be smart to work that out ;-) Sunny here with some low level rubbish flowing onshore in the ENE winds.. Dale +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: Spam Alert: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:15:57 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-110.4, required 5, AWL, BALANCE_FOR_LONG, IN_REP_TO, PGP_SIGNATURE, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_KMAIL, USER_IN_WHITELIST, X_NOT_PRESENT) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 05:01 pm, Dale Small wrote this piece of wisdom: > As a general rule i have worked out over time, messages to the list which > are mailed in html format *groans* generally do not come complete with the > unsubscribe option, however in a plain text format it will come up with the > link below.. Why don't you block HTML emails and just convert them to plain text? Thanks, David - -- If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day. If you teach them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE96bctZOfFgbBAbXARAshJAKCJvfkVD0EmSDqYyh3XUi0HKt1CIwCfRVnX 1SkpQYZYhJQd9ykbBRQBxsM= =J11x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 17:49:17 +1000 Subject: Re: Spam Alert: Re: aus-wx: north brisbane warning From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thankyou sincerely for the returned words of wisdom, i will do everything in my power to block html emails that get sent to the mailing list here, even after numerous requests from un-named members requesting that they be sent in simple and easy plain text. I am very humbled.. *Can also smell the rain in the air and crossing fingers* To be honest, i couldnt give a flying stuff David but at least people know how to unsubscribe if they feel they are being spammed in the first place. Back on topic though, looks like some rather nice cells in the Wide Bay area, i hope everyone on TDU is having a blast, it sure looks very nice up that way although down this end of town there doesnt seem to be a lot happening.. still any rain will be good, the falls of the last couple of days have saved us $70 for a truckload of water and have caused us to try and rebuild our ride-on mower for the grass is beginning to get rather tall and green again. Regards Dale +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: 23 October Dust Storm report Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:55:52 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've written up this event rather belatedly, and there's a rather juicy sat pic of it at http://australianweathernews.com. Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: Highly detailed satellite images Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:06:50 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Those of you that don't trawl through the WeatherZone forum may have missed Ben Quinn's discovery of a fabulous satellite image site from NASA. The images are available down to 250 metre (250 metre) resolution, though at this size they are a hefty 7 to 10mb, but really worth the wait. The site may not be intuitive to those who aren't familiar with satellite orbits, so I've written some simple instructions -- check the Weather Site News on the main page at http://australianweathernews.com. You really must try at least one of the 250m images; they're clear enough to be able to pick out urban area detail, so the detail in cloud structures is phenomenal! A nice image to whet the appetite is the 00.55 Terra/MODIS image for today 1 December, which shows most of South Australia cloud free, but some nice patterns in the clouds to the south. As there is a full archive back to April 2001, you can happily while away an evening looking for images of Australia. Also, check out the Gallery page, and type "Australia" into the search engine. Most of the images are of bushfires, but that's because the prime purpose of the site is fire detection and monitoring. Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 20:18:52 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: Subject: aus-wx: Air turbulence with no cloud? X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Today I flew back from Kuala Lumpur to Hong Kong and while we were about 1700 km away - somewhere SE of Ho Chi Min City - over the South China Sea, the captain announced that everybody should return to their seats as soon as possible and make sure their seat belts were securely fastened. The plane was travelling steady and smooth without the slightest hint of turbulence when he made the announcement. The sun was streaming down and the clouds were way down below near the sea surface. We were flying at 38000 feet. Then about two minutes after the announcement there was some quite rough turbulence like when one is flying through a thunderstorm but still there was no sign of cloud anywhere near the aeroplane. We were flying at 880 km/h so I estimated each patch of turbulence to be 30 - 50 km followed by 30 - 50 km of still air followed by more turbulence. After a few patches like this, the captain turned off the seat belt sign about 20 seconds before running out of the last patch of turbulence. The rest of the flight was uneventful. My question is, what was causing the turbulence in clear air? And what could the captain see to alert him that turbulence was going to be straight ahead of us before we actually reached it? And how did he know that the turbulence was going to end before we actually flew out of it? Has anyone any ideas? Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Air turbulence with no cloud? Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:35:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI Phil, Ive been a keen air monitor for years. Other people on this list may be able to explain better. The Aircaft these days have Clear Air Turbulence (CAT) radars in their cockpits. They are very complicated weather radar systems. I suggest to search on www.google.com for more info on these instruments. Regards Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 11:18 PM Subject: aus-wx: Air turbulence with no cloud? > Today I flew back from Kuala Lumpur to Hong Kong and while we were about > 1700 km away - somewhere SE of Ho Chi Min City - over the South China > Sea, the captain announced that everybody should return to their seats as > soon as possible and make sure their seat belts were securely fastened. > The plane was travelling steady and smooth without the slightest hint of > turbulence when he made the announcement. The sun was streaming down and > the clouds were way down below near the sea surface. We were flying at > 38000 feet. > Then about two minutes after the announcement there was some quite rough > turbulence like when one is flying through a thunderstorm but still there > was no sign of cloud anywhere near the aeroplane. We were flying at 880 > km/h so I estimated each patch of turbulence to be 30 - 50 km followed by > 30 - 50 km of still air followed by more turbulence. After a few patches > like this, the captain turned off the seat belt sign about 20 seconds > before running out of the last patch of turbulence. The rest of the > flight was uneventful. > My question is, what was causing the turbulence in clear air? And what > could the captain see to alert him that turbulence was going to be > straight ahead of us before we actually reached it? And how did he know > that the turbulence was going to end before we actually flew out of it? > Has anyone any ideas? > > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 12:43:22 +0000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Air turbulence with no cloud? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Reports from aircraft ahead on the same route and altitude. Standard procedure. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Tuan Phan" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Air turbulence with no cloud? Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 00:49:16 +1100 Organization: BoM X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Phil, As one of the forecasters that look after aviation above 10kft, I should make some comments. I didn't forecast for the area you mentioned so I am only inferring what happened from you comments. Short answer to your question: Excellent forecast combined with a very experienced captain resulted in no one getting injured. Clear air turb (CAT) probably occur more often than people realise but aviation industry plan around these areas to keep incidents to a minimal. Sometimes CAT areas are very hard to forecast, as you can't see them (kind of like a black hole - you have to infer from stuff happening around it). Many reasons for CAT areas. Common ones are - jet with a strong anticyclonic curvature, when a lower jet undercut a higher one, when there is a sharp upper trough, when flow diverge, etc (you get my drift). In the tropics, sometimes it appears that planes experience CAT because they are flying well above the cloud. However, most of the time, the turb is actually due to CBs!!! (Jets tend to occur further away from the deep tropics due to lack to temp gradient. Hence CAT due to jets don't really occur in the tropics). With right conditions, CB updrafts can grow very tall (>45kft) in very short time. Fast growing CBs below can cause planes to experience turb even though they are well above the clouds. Had a quick look at both the Washington & Bracknell forecasts (They look after Nthn Hem). There was no CAT forecast for the area for either of them. I also checked the winds and noted that they were pretty weak (<60kt). However, both Bracknell & Washington had areas of CBs in the area you mentioned. My guess is that you experienced CAT (turb) due to CBs. (Not sure of exact time of your flight but max CB activities is ~12z) As David mentioned, radar would have alerted the captain to what was happening and he was skilful enough to pinpoint when turb was about to start and end. Also mentioned by Peter, reports by other planes or talking to the Air Traffic Controllers would have given the captain the heads up. Hope this helps, Tuan (Melb) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 11:18 PM Subject: aus-wx: Air turbulence with no cloud? > Today I flew back from Kuala Lumpur to Hong Kong and while we were about > 1700 km away - somewhere SE of Ho Chi Min City - over the South China > Sea, the captain announced that everybody should return to their seats as > soon as possible and make sure their seat belts were securely fastened. > The plane was travelling steady and smooth without the slightest hint of > turbulence when he made the announcement. The sun was streaming down and > the clouds were way down below near the sea surface. We were flying at > 38000 feet. > Then about two minutes after the announcement there was some quite rough > turbulence like when one is flying through a thunderstorm but still there > was no sign of cloud anywhere near the aeroplane. We were flying at 880 > km/h so I estimated each patch of turbulence to be 30 - 50 km followed by > 30 - 50 km of still air followed by more turbulence. After a few patches > like this, the captain turned off the seat belt sign about 20 seconds > before running out of the last patch of turbulence. The rest of the > flight was uneventful. > My question is, what was causing the turbulence in clear air? And what > could the captain see to alert him that turbulence was going to be > straight ahead of us before we actually reached it? And how did he know > that the turbulence was going to end before we actually flew out of it? > Has anyone any ideas? > > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: NOV 2002: Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:04:46 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Everybody, heres the weather for Mena, Arkansas for November, 2002.
 
Avg. High: 58.6F(14.7C)
Avg. Low: 35.2F(1.6C)
       High: 75F(23.8C) Nov. 9
       Low: 22F(-5.5C) Nov. 28 (Thanksgiving)
Rain for Month: 2.55IN(64.7 mm)
                      (-2.35IN/-59.6 mm)
Rain for Year: 56.75IN(1,441.4 mm)
                    (+4.55IN/+115.5 mm)
Dry toward the end of the month, as no rain fell from Nov. 6-24th.
I want to wish all of you a Happy & Safe December and a very Happy New Year!
Yours  David Powell
From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: aus-wx: BOM stuff Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:20:40 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. I am new to the list and weather stations so please excuse my lack of knowledge. Currently I am locating a weather station at my place of residence and I also have one some 150kms away which sends its data back via VHF radio. Like a lot of sites this data will end up on my web site. What I want to know is on some of these web sites they include forcasts, pictures etc from BOM and I was wondering how this goes with copyright etc. I would like to include some lightning strike stuff, sat pictures and rainfall radar stuff. Can anyone give me a place where I can get this kind of stuff either at a small cost etc or for free? I have found a supplier of a piece of hardware that couples with a computer can do lightning strike info and may look at this at some stage. Regards, Peter -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: BOM stuff Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:34:01 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Peter, I am not that sure myself. I once had the belief that the data is not copyright, only the presentation of it. Please do not take my answer as being correct. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter May" To: Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:20 AM Subject: aus-wx: BOM stuff > Hi all. > > I am new to the list and weather stations so please excuse my lack of > knowledge. > > Currently I am locating a weather station at my place of residence and I > also have one some 150kms away which sends its data back via VHF radio. Like > a lot of sites this data will end up on my web site. > > What I want to know is on some of these web sites they include forcasts, > pictures etc from BOM and I was wondering how this goes with copyright etc. > > I would like to include some lightning strike stuff, sat pictures and > rainfall radar stuff. Can anyone give me a place where I can get this kind > of stuff either at a small cost etc or for free? I have found a supplier of > a piece of hardware that couples with a computer can do lightning strike > info and may look at this at some stage. > > Regards, Peter > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) From: Rhett Blanch To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 22:33:15 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Severe Storm on the Gold Coast - 30/11 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I was at Surfers Paradise on Saturday and got some photos of a great guster which was followed by strong winds and hail which damaged several homes. It was one of those amazing times when the storm came to me. I just wandered across the road from where I was staying and there it was! 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you lucky sod,
 
terrific pics, great shelfie and rain core,
any rotation?
what about CGs and thunder?
 
richard
 
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Date: Monday, 2 December 2002 10:11:10 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Severe Storm on the Gold Coast - 30/11
 
Hi all,
I was at Surfers Paradise on Saturday and got some photos of a great guster
which was followed by strong winds and hail which damaged several homes. It
was one of those amazing times when the storm came to me. I just wandered
across the road from where I was staying and there it was!

Photos are here: http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021130_goldcoast.htm

Rhett

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Embedded Content: IMSTP22.gif: 00000001,235e257a,00000000,00000000 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Severe Storm on the Gold Coast - 30/11 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 23:04:59 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com GREAT photos, love those cloud formations and the wall! Cheers James James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett Blanch Sent: Monday, 2 December 2002 10:33 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Severe Storm on the Gold Coast - 30/11 Hi all, I was at Surfers Paradise on Saturday and got some photos of a great guster which was followed by strong winds and hail which damaged several homes. It was one of those amazing times when the storm came to me. I just wandered across the road from where I was staying and there it was! Photos are here: http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021130_goldcoast.htm Rhett +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 23:24:21 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Rune, We got 27mm in total for that event and nothing during the Saturday hail event that Quakers Hill received. Cheers, Jimmy Deguara At 03:52 PM 29/11/2002 +1100, you wrote: > G;day Judy, at Quakers Hill just made it home from work b4 the storm > front hit, AM radio was beserk on the way home, it was my only way of > telling there were great storms around as visibility was poor!, have > recieved 21 mm here in 50 mins, with heavy rain and strong winds along > with erratic cg's in all directions, no hail though, looks like more of a > rain event now with some embedded stuff, some sunny breaks earlier would > have set it up even better, still cg's around the place here :) > > > > > > >>From: "Adam Mayo" >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>To: >>Subject: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder >>Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:38:50 +1100 >> >>It is actually thundering and seemingly getting closer. We can't see the >>storm for the low drifting misty cloud. I have looked at the radar. Can >>any of you guys see what is going on from other parts of Sydney. >> >>Judy > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.220.153.9] From: "Dave Ellem" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Storm on the Gold Coast - 30/11 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:39:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Dec 2002 20:39:53.0307 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7A48AB0:01C29A42] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Rhett, Absolutely fantastic photos you've got there! I just love that guster!!!!! Michael Bath, Rodney Wallbridge and I were chasing on Saturday and watched it develop and move over the Gold Coast. Thunder was constant from our location at Ocean Shores! We tried to chase it but couldn't make it in time. I'm really glad you got to take some pictures for us! I've put some photos up on my site of the storms that day. They start a little over half way down the page, at Parrots Nest. http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/photography/dave13.htm I'm pretty sure this is the storm you saw on the Gold Coast: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1130de11.jpg However it may have been a storm that occured a bit further south of what you saw. Anyway, thanks for sharing those pictures with us!! Dave Ellem Wollongbar, Northern Rivers, NE NSW http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhett Blanch" To: Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 10:33 PM Subject: aus-wx: Severe Storm on the Gold Coast - 30/11 > Hi all, > I was at Surfers Paradise on Saturday and got some photos of a great guster > which was followed by strong winds and hail which damaged several homes. It > was one of those amazing times when the storm came to me. I just wandered > across the road from where I was staying and there it was! > > Photos are here: http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021130_goldcoast.htm > > Rhett > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Jones To: "old AUSSIE WX (aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com)" Subject: aus-wx: interest ahead Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:48:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Things have been a bit busy of late, hence the lack of emails, but the next few days holds out enough interesting WX to trigger an email. First today, and catching me somewhat by surprise, looks like it could get rather thundery over the east half/two thirds of Victoria. It is not easy picking the line of the trough which sits over Victoria, but one suspects the area near and east of the trough line will probably be the focus for much of the storm activity. Interestingly, the pressure in recent hours has been falling through central Victoria but rising or steady to the west and east, suggesting the trough is currently deepening down through central parts. At the same time, for those further north, the strong upper trough from the bight has linked up very nicely with moisture associated with the low and convection near Timor, with plenty of storms through the centre etc. Further out, Victoria and Tasmania could get a significant summer cold outbreak on Wednesday/Thursday. GASP, NOGAPS and UK models are all going for a good SW flow (somewhat cyclonic) with thickness values below 540 reaching into southern Victoria. Such a set up would see heavy squally showers in the south, with a good chance of cold air thunderstorms and small hail (also snow down to ~1000m in the south). And then... for the west the moisture currently streaming inland will continue to build, and the passage of the upper trough around mid week and the establishment of general north to northeast flow could well form the ingredients for a very thundery period across much of the NT and Western Australia. At very long range watch out for a possible linkage of this moisture into the next front/mid latitude trough around Saturday for the southeast. Dr David Jones Head of Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Victoria 3001, Australia email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 Ph (work) : (+61 3) 9669 4085 Ph (home) : (+61 3) 9755 1923 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: hail storm Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:01:27 +1100 Organization: The Weather Co. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I managed to get this (somewhat flawed) panorama of the gustfront(s) associated with the storm that went through southern areas of Sydney on Saturday afternoon (at about 1800 EDT). It's taken from the cricket ground we had just vacated at Taren Point. http://www.theweather.com.au/uploads/20021130am/pan_sm.jpg (smaller version) http://www.theweather.com.au/uploads/20021130am/pan.jpg Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Wendy Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2002 4:06 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: hail storm Hi everyone, Today at about 3pm we had a hail storm here at St Clair NSW (near Penrith).. it lasted for about 10 mins max with hail the size marbles and a bit bigger covering the ground. I don't know how cold it got but it became very chilly indeed. The storm has since passed and now we have blue skies again!! Wendy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 20/11/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.30.21] From: "Rune Peitersen" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 14:45:12 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2002 03:45:12.0525 (UTC) FILETIME=[62482FD0:01C29A7E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Jimbo, i wouldn't call it a 'hail event' :), although there was 2 minutes of heavy rain with tiny hail, im surprised you missed out it must have edged just southeast of you. Anyway i have some nice footage of it in its earlier stages near Camden and approaching with a long lasted lowering that looked menacing to say the least!. >From: Jimmy Deguara >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder >Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 23:24:21 +1100 > >Hi Rune, > >We got 27mm in total for that event and nothing during the Saturday hail >event that Quakers Hill received. > >Cheers, > >Jimmy Deguara > >At 03:52 PM 29/11/2002 +1100, you wrote: >> G;day Judy, at Quakers Hill just made it home from work b4 the storm >>front hit, AM radio was beserk on the way home, it was my only way of >>telling there were great storms around as visibility was poor!, have >>recieved 21 mm here in 50 mins, with heavy rain and strong winds along >>with erratic cg's in all directions, no hail though, looks like more of a >>rain event now with some embedded stuff, some sunny breaks earlier would >>have set it up even better, still cg's around the place here :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>From: "Adam Mayo" >>>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>>To: >>>Subject: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder >>>Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:38:50 +1100 >>> >>>It is actually thundering and seemingly getting closer. We can't see the >>>storm for the low drifting misty cloud. I have looked at the radar. Can >>>any of you guys see what is going on from other parts of Sydney. >>> >>>Judy >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus >> >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>message. >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 16:00:52 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Rune! I was at doonside at the time and that lowering went right over my girlfriends house.. got a few photos/video and we got 1/2cm hail as well. Matt Smith Rune Peitersen wrote: > Hey Jimbo, i wouldn't call it a 'hail event' :), although there was 2 > minutes of heavy rain with tiny hail, im surprised you missed out it must > have edged just southeast of you. Anyway i have some nice footage of it in > its earlier stages near Camden and approaching with a long lasted lowering > that looked menacing to say the least!. > > >From: Jimmy Deguara > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder > >Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 23:24:21 +1100 > > > >Hi Rune, > > > >We got 27mm in total for that event and nothing during the Saturday hail > >event that Quakers Hill received. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Jimmy Deguara > > > >At 03:52 PM 29/11/2002 +1100, you wrote: > >> G;day Judy, at Quakers Hill just made it home from work b4 the storm > >>front hit, AM radio was beserk on the way home, it was my only way of > >>telling there were great storms around as visibility was poor!, have > >>recieved 21 mm here in 50 mins, with heavy rain and strong winds along > >>with erratic cg's in all directions, no hail though, looks like more of a > >>rain event now with some embedded stuff, some sunny breaks earlier would > >>have set it up even better, still cg's around the place here :) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>From: "Adam Mayo" > >>>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >>>To: > >>>Subject: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder > >>>Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:38:50 +1100 > >>> > >>>It is actually thundering and seemingly getting closer. We can't see the > >>>storm for the low drifting misty cloud. I have looked at the radar. Can > >>>any of you guys see what is going on from other parts of Sydney. > >>> > >>>Judy > >> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > >> > >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >>message. > >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >message. > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Local lightning strikes Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:26:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Had several lightning strikes today that have started fires in the area and with very little rainfall is a bit scary. At approx 4pm while at Springhurst on my school bus a strike went to ground at/on the SW edge of the Chiltern forest and appeared to be burning fairly well as we got a little closer. Strong smell of smoke while in the Chiltern area.
Point 2 mm scored here up to now (5.25pm).
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
X-Originating-IP: [203.220.169.106] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Surprise thunderday + Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 17:29:20 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2002 06:29:21.0485 (UTC) FILETIME=[50B837D0:01C29A95] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, Further to David's post...about 10.30 this morning I was surprised (although it had been humid and the odd Acca about) to hear thunder! Popped out with the digital camera the school bought (Kodak DC5000) and snapped a depressingly low-topped Cb, which seemed to be responsible. The trough line seemed to be further east of me as the day wore on...alas..anda check of the lightning tracker confirmed it getting nastier way east. No rain but a thunderday nonetheless!!! Cheers, Kevin Phyland Wycheproof. P.S. This may be old news to WA people but I got an email from another list about a web cam at Busselton... http://www.watercorporation.com.au/marinecam/default.asp _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Another quick storm Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 18:26:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Another quickie has just gone over with lots of CG's and very little rain. Point 2 again. Heard the fire truck go out again just as it was getting warmed up :-(
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 19:07:43 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Matt and Rune, I am never surprised we miss action although we had substantial rain in the 27mm on Friday which is quite a significant fall. Rune what did you get all up from that 24 hour period being so close? Jimmy Deguara At 02:45 PM 3/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: > Hey Jimbo, i wouldn't call it a 'hail event' :), although there was 2 > minutes of heavy rain with tiny hail, im surprised you missed out it must > have edged just southeast of you. Anyway i have some nice footage of it > in its earlier stages near Camden and approaching with a long lasted > lowering that looked menacing to say the least!. > > > > > > >>From: Jimmy Deguara >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder >>Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 23:24:21 +1100 >> >>Hi Rune, >> >>We got 27mm in total for that event and nothing during the Saturday hail >>event that Quakers Hill received. >> >>Cheers, >> >>Jimmy Deguara >> >>At 03:52 PM 29/11/2002 +1100, you wrote: >>> G;day Judy, at Quakers Hill just made it home from work b4 the >>> storm front hit, AM radio was beserk on the way home, it was my only >>> way of telling there were great storms around as visibility was poor!, >>> have recieved 21 mm here in 50 mins, with heavy rain and strong winds >>> along with erratic cg's in all directions, no hail though, looks like >>> more of a rain event now with some embedded stuff, some sunny breaks >>> earlier would have set it up even better, still cg's around the place here :) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>From: "Adam Mayo" >>>>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>>>To: >>>>Subject: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder >>>>Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:38:50 +1100 >>>> >>>>It is actually thundering and seemingly getting closer. We can't see >>>>the storm for the low drifting misty cloud. I have looked at the >>>>radar. Can any of you guys see what is going on from other parts of Sydney. >>>> >>>>Judy >>> >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >>>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus >>> >>>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>>message. >>>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>message. >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 19:09:22 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: RE: aus-wx: hail storm Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Andrew, I am glad somebody was in position to photograph this great structured severe storm. Excellent photographs. It will be interesting to see how the video turns out. Jimmy Deguara At 12:01 PM 3/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >I managed to get this (somewhat flawed) panorama of the gustfront(s) >associated with the storm that went through southern areas of Sydney on >Saturday afternoon (at about 1800 EDT). It's taken from the cricket >ground we had just vacated at Taren Point. > >http://www.theweather.com.au/uploads/20021130am/pan_sm.jpg (smaller >version) >http://www.theweather.com.au/uploads/20021130am/pan.jpg > >Andrew. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Wendy >Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2002 4:06 PM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: hail storm > > >Hi everyone, > >Today at about 3pm we had a hail storm here at St Clair NSW (near >Penrith).. it lasted for about 10 mins max with hail the size marbles >and a bit bigger covering the ground. I don't know how cold it got but >it became very chilly indeed. The storm has since passed and now we >have blue skies again!! > >Wendy > > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 20/11/2002 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather >your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: hail storm Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 00:48:06 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have put together a Storm tracker animation from Friday the 29th through to saturday 30th november, 155 images from 5:30am Friday morning to 7:30pm Saturday afternoon. www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/anim-st-29-30nov.gif (367kb) Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 7:09 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: hail storm > Andrew, > > I am glad somebody was in position to photograph this great structured > severe storm. Excellent photographs. It will be interesting to see how the > video turns out. > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 12:01 PM 3/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: > >I managed to get this (somewhat flawed) panorama of the gustfront(s) > >associated with the storm that went through southern areas of Sydney on > >Saturday afternoon (at about 1800 EDT). It's taken from the cricket > >ground we had just vacated at Taren Point. > > > >http://www.theweather.com.au/uploads/20021130am/pan_sm.jpg (smaller > >version) > >http://www.theweather.com.au/uploads/20021130am/pan.jpg > > > >Andrew. > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Wendy > >Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2002 4:06 PM > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: aus-wx: hail storm > > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > >Today at about 3pm we had a hail storm here at St Clair NSW (near > >Penrith).. it lasted for about 10 mins max with hail the size marbles > >and a bit bigger covering the ground. I don't know how cold it got but > >it became very chilly indeed. The storm has since passed and now we > >have blue skies again!! > > > >Wendy > > > > > > > > > >--- > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 20/11/2002 > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > >your_email_address" in the body of your message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Scanned with AVG and NAV for Win2k with the very latest Virus definition files. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 27/11/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 22:07:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew Boskell Subject: Re: aus-wx: interest ahead To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day David & All, Some good thunderstorm cells moved thru NE of Devonport last night, producing some excellent displays. The build-up started late arvo and became active around 8pm and continued to after midnight. Just waiting now to see what this good looking low can do when it hits - the rain band is sitting on the west coast atm. Andrew. --- David Jones wrote: > Things have been a bit busy of late, hence the lack > of emails, but the next > few days holds out enough interesting WX to trigger > an email. > > First today, and catching me somewhat by surprise, > looks like it could get > rather thundery over the east half/two thirds of > Victoria. It is not easy > picking the line of the trough which sits over > Victoria, but one suspects > the area near and east of the trough line will > probably be the focus for > much of the storm activity. Interestingly, the > pressure in recent hours has > been falling through central Victoria but rising or > steady to the west and > east, suggesting the trough is currently deepening > down through central > parts. At the same time, for those further north, > the strong upper trough > from the bight has linked up very nicely with > moisture associated with the > low and convection near Timor, with plenty of storms > through the centre etc. > > Further out, Victoria and Tasmania could get a > significant summer cold > outbreak on Wednesday/Thursday. GASP, NOGAPS and UK > models are all going for > a good SW flow (somewhat cyclonic) with thickness > values below 540 reaching > into southern Victoria. Such a set up would see > heavy squally showers in the > south, with a good chance of cold air thunderstorms > and small hail (also > snow down to ~1000m in the south). > > And then... for the west the moisture currently > streaming inland will > continue to build, and the passage of the upper > trough around mid week and > the establishment of general north to northeast flow > could well form the > ingredients for a very thundery period across much > of the NT and Western > Australia. At very long range watch out for a > possible linkage of this > moisture into the next front/mid latitude trough > around Saturday for the > southeast. > > Dr David Jones > > Head of Climate Analysis Section > National Climate Centre > Bureau of Meteorology > GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne > Victoria 3001, Australia > email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au > Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 > Ph (work) : (+61 3) 9669 4085 > Ph (home) : (+61 3) 9755 1923 > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ===== Andrew Boskell "Some people are weather wise, others are otherwise!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.52.193] From: "Rune Peitersen" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 13:15:39 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2002 02:15:39.0376 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A0C7700:01C29B3B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Pretty similar on Friday with 29mm, Saturday scored 10.5mm (this is the one that skirted you?) It did seem to be heaviest to my southwest and over the Blacktown area, Doonside sounds about right Matt, was there nice rotation associated? from a distance all i could make out was the scuddy cloud underneath it which was swirling quite a bit >From: Jimmy Deguara >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder >Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 19:07:43 +1100 > >Matt and Rune, > >I am never surprised we miss action although we had substantial rain in the >27mm on Friday which is quite a significant fall. Rune what did you get all >up from that 24 hour period being so close? > >Jimmy Deguara > >At 02:45 PM 3/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >> Hey Jimbo, i wouldn't call it a 'hail event' :), although there was 2 >>minutes of heavy rain with tiny hail, im surprised you missed out it must >>have edged just southeast of you. Anyway i have some nice footage of it >>in its earlier stages near Camden and approaching with a long lasted >>lowering that looked menacing to say the least!. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>From: Jimmy Deguara >>>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder >>>Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 23:24:21 +1100 >>> >>>Hi Rune, >>> >>>We got 27mm in total for that event and nothing during the Saturday hail >>>event that Quakers Hill received. >>> >>>Cheers, >>> >>>Jimmy Deguara >>> >>>At 03:52 PM 29/11/2002 +1100, you wrote: >>>> G;day Judy, at Quakers Hill just made it home from work b4 the >>>>storm front hit, AM radio was beserk on the way home, it was my only way >>>>of telling there were great storms around as visibility was poor!, have >>>>recieved 21 mm here in 50 mins, with heavy rain and strong winds along >>>>with erratic cg's in all directions, no hail though, looks like more of >>>>a rain event now with some embedded stuff, some sunny breaks earlier >>>>would have set it up even better, still cg's around the place here :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>From: "Adam Mayo" >>>>>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>>>>To: >>>>>Subject: aus-wx: Mona Vale Thunder >>>>>Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:38:50 +1100 >>>>> >>>>>It is actually thundering and seemingly getting closer. We can't see >>>>>the storm for the low drifting misty cloud. I have looked at the >>>>>radar. Can any of you guys see what is going on from other parts of >>>>>Sydney. >>>>> >>>>>Judy >>>> >>>> >>>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>>MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >>>>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus >>>> >>>>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>>>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >>>>to:majordomo at world.std.com >>>>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>>>message. >>>>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >>> >>>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>>message. >>>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >> >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>message. >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: aus-wx: Where to buy? Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:22:58 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Please excuse my posting if this is a bit off topic. I am in need to buy a weather station and have found plenty outside Australia but not a huge variety (web sites that is) of info. I did find one company in Sydney selling Pete Bros stuff but it was around $400 on top of the price out of the states even after money conversion. I actually need 2. I have however built one since I had access to a lathe etc. this one is remote to my location and transmits data back via radio so it doesn't have to have an interface but I am interested if there are any out there with no inteface but able to get data out of say with a serial connection. and the second is for my main office. I need to measure the usual temp (only has to be outside, inside is a bonus), humidity, barometric pressure, rain and how heavy if possible, wind direction and speed and thats about it. I would like a display with this one and the ability to store some info if my computer is offline but normally to be hooked up to my computer and sending the data to it. I write software myself so I would like the data format to be avialable etc... Gee not much hey? I wonder if I can get one to iron my shirts. Anyway where in Aus is there a site or place I can contact likely to have quality for dollars at a fair price? regards, Peter -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Red rain again Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:50:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Very, very light "red rain" falling here at present. It's knocking me up washing all the cars at work all the time :-)
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: Temp contrast Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 01:24:26 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
G'December to All:
       A vigorous Canadian cold front is plowing through Texas, making for a good temp contrast. As of 12:53 A.M. Wed. Dec. 4th: In Amarillo it was 20F(-6.6C) with light snow and a wind chill of 4F(-15.5C) while at the same time Brownsville had 72F(22.2C) and fair skies. (More cool news for ya'll). Tuesday in Mena was a cloudy, raw day with steady rain and a very chilly N/NE wind with temps hanging around 38F(3.3C). We've a chance of rain/sleet/snow flurries this morning--so I guess you can't keep Old Man Winter away forever. I guess you can imagine yourself here and getting cooled off and I can dream about being over in Aus and getting a tan on a beach!!!
BTW, Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to Everyone!
Yours David (Looking for Snowflakes) Powell
From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Fires and the Eclipse Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 21:54:51 +1100 Organization: The Weather Co. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ironically, the fires in Sydney gave a one-in-a-million view of the eclipse late this afternoon to anyone who was east of them. I was on the train at Kogarah (3 hours after leaving North Sydney!) when I first sighted it through the Alford's Point fire. Amazing - you could just look straight at it as it was setting into the plume, eventually becoming as dull as the smoke itself. I'm extremely disappointed that I didn't have my camera! Not surprisingly the synoptic setup for today's (and no-doubt the rest of the week's) fires is text-book for the east coast. Snowing at Mt Hotham by late afternoon, mild and windy on the tablelands, hot, dry and windy on the coast. Andrew. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: aus-wx: The Eclipse Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:27:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A few small images from here in Melbourne tonight http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01t.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02t.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03t.jpg Larger images here... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03.jpg Equipment...polarising sunglasses and a digital camera. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:54 PM Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Fires and the Eclipse > Ironically, the fires in Sydney gave a one-in-a-million view of the > eclipse late this afternoon to anyone who was east of them. > > I was on the train at Kogarah (3 hours after leaving North Sydney!) when > I first sighted it through the Alford's Point fire. Amazing - you could > just look straight at it as it was setting into the plume, eventually > becoming as dull as the smoke itself. I'm extremely disappointed that I > didn't have my camera! > > Not surprisingly the synoptic setup for today's (and no-doubt the rest > of the week's) fires is text-book for the east coast. Snowing at Mt > Hotham by late afternoon, mild and windy on the tablelands, hot, dry and > windy on the coast. > > Andrew. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.228.6] From: "Ben Jerrems" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Eclipse Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 23:26:08 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2002 12:26:08.0355 (UTC) FILETIME=[529F1B30:01C29B90] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Nice images Jane, But i was told that polarizing lens's of any sort are still harmfull!

Ben
BEANZVISION Photographics.

>From: "Jane ONeill"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: aus-wx: The Eclipse
>Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:27:44 +1100
>
>A few small images from here in Melbourne tonight
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01t.jpg
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02t.jpg
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03t.jpg
>
>Larger images here...
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01.jpg
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02.jpg
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03.jpg
>
>Equipment...polarising sunglasses and a digital camera.
>
>Jane
>
>--------------------------------
>Jane ONeill - Melbourne
>cadence at australianskynweather.com
>
>Australian Sky & Weather
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com
>
>Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>--------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Andrew Miskelly"
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:54 PM
>Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Fires and the Eclipse
>
>
> > Ironically, the fires in Sydney gave a one-in-a-million view of the
> > eclipse late this afternoon to anyone who was east of them.
> >
> > I was on the train at Kogarah (3 hours after leaving North Sydney!)
>when
> > I first sighted it through the Alford's Point fire. Amazing - you
>could
> > just look straight at it as it was setting into the plume, eventually
> > becoming as dull as the smoke itself. I'm extremely disappointed that
>I
> > didn't have my camera!
> >
> > Not surprisingly the synoptic setup for today's (and no-doubt the rest
> > of the week's) fires is text-book for the east coast. Snowing at Mt
> > Hotham by late afternoon, mild and windy on the tablelands, hot, dry
>and
> > windy on the coast.
> >
> > Andrew.
> >
> >
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From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Eclipse Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:54:07 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Ben,
 
I looked only sideways at the screen on the back of the camera rather than through the sunglasses to focus, so I didn't actually look directly at the sun at any time.
 
 
Jane

--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at australianskynweather.com
 
Australian Sky & Weather
http://www.stormchasers.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
--------------------------------
 
 
 

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Eclipse

Nice images Jane, But i was told that polarizing lens's of any sort are still harmfull!

Ben
BEANZVISION Photographics.

>From: "Jane ONeill"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: aus-wx: The Eclipse
>Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:27:44 +1100
>
>A few small images from here in Melbourne tonight
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01t.jpg
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02t.jpg
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03t.jpg
>
>Larger images here...
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01.jpg
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02.jpg
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03.jpg
>
>Equipment...polarising sunglasses and a digital camera.
>
>Jane
>
>--------------------------------
>Jane ONeill - Melbourne
>cadence at australianskynweather.com
>
>Australian Sky & Weather
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com
>
>Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>--------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Andrew Miskelly"
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:54 PM
>Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Fires and the Eclipse
>
>
> > Ironically, the fires in Sydney gave a one-in-a-million view of the
> > eclipse late this afternoon to anyone who was east of them.
> >
> > I was on the train at Kogarah (3 hours after leaving North Sydney!)
>when
> > I first sighted it through the Alford's Point fire. Amazing - you
>could
> > just look straight at it as it was setting into the plume, eventually
> > becoming as dull as the smoke itself. I'm extremely disappointed that
>I
> > didn't have my camera!
> >
> > Not surprisingly the synoptic setup for today's (and no-doubt the rest
> > of the week's) fires is text-book for the east coast. Snowing at Mt
> > Hotham by late afternoon, mild and windy on the tablelands, hot, dry
>and
> > windy on the coast.
> >
> > Andrew.
> >
> >
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X-Originating-IP: [210.50.228.6] From: "Ben Jerrems" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Eclipse Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 00:08:08 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2002 13:08:08.0301 (UTC) FILETIME=[30A059D0:01C29B96] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

I'm happy that you captured them though, i also tried to view it live on net but the site was down!! dam.

Ben
BEANZVISION Photographics.

>From: "Jane ONeill"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Eclipse
>Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:54:07 +1100
>
>Hi Ben,
>
>I looked only sideways at the screen on the back of the camera rather than through the sunglasses to focus, so I didn't actually look directly at the sun at any time.
>
>
>Jane
>
>--------------------------------
>Jane ONeill - Melbourne
>cadence at australianskynweather.com
>
>Australian Sky & Weather
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com
>
>Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>--------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ben Jerrems
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:26 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Eclipse
>
>
> Nice images Jane, But i was told that polarizing lens's of any sort are still harmfull!
>
> Ben
> BEANZVISION Photographics.
>
> >From: "Jane ONeill"
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To:
> >Subject: aus-wx: The Eclipse
> >Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:27:44 +1100
> >
> >A few small images from here in Melbourne tonight
> >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01t.jpg
> >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02t.jpg
> >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03t.jpg
> >
> >Larger images here...
> >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01.jpg
> >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02.jpg
> >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03.jpg
> >
> >Equipment...polarising sunglasses and a digital camera.
> >
> >Jane
> >
> >--------------------------------
> >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> >cadence at australianskynweather.com
> >
> >Australian Sky & Weather
> >http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> >
> >Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
> >http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> >--------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Andrew Miskelly"
> >To:
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:54 PM
> >Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Fires and the Eclipse
> >
> >
> > > Ironically, the fires in Sydney gave a one-in-a-million view of the
> > > eclipse late this afternoon to anyone who was east of them.
> > >
> > > I was on the train at Kogarah (3 hours after leaving North Sydney!)
> >when
> > > I first sighted it through the Alford's Point fire. Amazing - you
> >could
> > > just look straight at it as it was setting into the plume, eventually
> > > becoming as dull as the smoke itself. I'm extremely disappointed that
> >I
> > > didn't have my camera!
> > >
> > > Not surprisingly the synoptic setup for today's (and no-doubt the rest
> > > of the week's) fires is text-book for the east coast. Snowing at Mt
> > > Hotham by late afternoon, mild and windy on the tablelands, hot, dry
> >and
> > > windy on the coast.
> > >
> > > Andrew.
> > >
> > >
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X-Originating-IP: [144.132.18.241] From: "Liam Domanski" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Ecliptic rainbows Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 00:24:45 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2002 13:24:45.0290 (UTC) FILETIME=[82E0CCA0:01C29B98] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Watching the eclipse this arvo on a hill in Donvale. Nice and clear to the SE, apart from some cirrus blocking the sun at our maximum. Interesting iridescence created as the sun shone through the cirrus. Some light showers off to the NE, over the hills was the highlight though!!! The light from the eclipsing sun generated some weird lighting effects, and made some rainbows in the showers over the hills. Very intense colours, with a weird depth to them, and almost no curves!!!!!! They just looked like vertical stripes, reaching right up!!!!!! Didn't have the digital cam on me, as Dad nicked it to use for work in Sydney!!!!!!!!!! DAMN YOU DAD!!!!!!!! In interesting cosmic ballet. Liam _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Eclipse Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 07:07:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Couldn't see anything here as it was raining (red mud). Great shots. Wanted to show my kids, now I can. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:27 PM Subject: aus-wx: The Eclipse > A few small images from here in Melbourne tonight > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01t.jpg > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02t.jpg > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03t.jpg > > Larger images here... > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01.jpg > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02.jpg > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03.jpg > > Equipment...polarising sunglasses and a digital camera. > > Jane +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Eclipse Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:31:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks for these great photos Jane !! love Sha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:27 PM Subject: aus-wx: The Eclipse A few small images from here in Melbourne tonight http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01t.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02t.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03t.jpg Larger images here... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03.jpg Equipment...polarising sunglasses and a digital camera. Jane --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.426 / Virus Database: 239 - Release Date: 2/12/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 16:35:02 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Eclipse From: Greg Stewart To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have some images if you like Jane taken through the dust and fading light. Greg (Merbein) On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 07:07 AM, Bussy wrote: > Couldn't see anything here as it was raining (red mud). Great shots. > Wanted > to show my kids, now I can. Thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane ONeill" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:27 PM > Subject: aus-wx: The Eclipse > > >> A few small images from here in Melbourne tonight >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01t.jpg >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02t.jpg >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03t.jpg >> >> Larger images here... >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01.jpg >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02.jpg >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03.jpg >> >> Equipment...polarising sunglasses and a digital camera. >> >> Jane > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------> > jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Duncan & Mandy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: hail storm Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 18:19:23 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com There was a picture in the local paper of a hail storm that occured in Palm Valley, about 150kms West of Alice Springs. Can't get the picture onto the 'net at the moment. Sorry. The hailstones were golfball size. Although it hails quite often around here (judging from the amount of red from Radar images), it's rare that people actually get to see it. The BOM said that the hail storm was from a supercell. These were quite common last week. Cheers, Duncan Alice Springs N.T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 11:31 am Subject: RE: aus-wx: hail storm > I managed to get this (somewhat flawed) panorama of the gustfront(s) > associated with the storm that went through southern areas of Sydney on > Saturday afternoon (at about 1800 EDT). It's taken from the cricket > ground we had just vacated at Taren Point. > > http://www.theweather.com.au/uploads/20021130am/pan_sm.jpg (smaller > version) > http://www.theweather.com.au/uploads/20021130am/pan.jpg > > Andrew. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Wendy > Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2002 4:06 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: hail storm > > > Hi everyone, > > Today at about 3pm we had a hail storm here at St Clair NSW (near > Penrith).. it lasted for about 10 mins max with hail the size marbles > and a bit bigger covering the ground. I don't know how cold it got but > it became very chilly indeed. The storm has since passed and now we > have blue skies again!! > > Wendy > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 20/11/2002 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 19:16:41 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ecliptic rainbows Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:24 AM 5/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >The light from the eclipsing sun generated some weird lighting effects, >and made some rainbows in the showers over the hills. Very intense >colours, with a weird depth to them, and almost no curves!!!!!! They just >looked like vertical stripes, reaching right up!!!!!! What was very interesting was the twilight. Because the sun was being uncovered as it got further below the horizon, it seemed as though the light level remained almost constant for nearly half an hour. A very impressive "endless twilight" and somewhat interesting to see. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: meso at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 19:44:56 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Mal Ninnes Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Storm on the Gold Coast - 30/11 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ooooh yeah - love those pics Rhett! A job well done :) At 10:33 PM 12/2/02 +1100, you wrote: >Hi all, >I was at Surfers Paradise on Saturday and got some photos of a great guster >which was followed by strong winds and hail which damaged several homes. It >was one of those amazing times when the storm came to me. I just wandered >across the road from where I was staying and there it was! > >Photos are here: http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021130_goldcoast.htm > >Rhett > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Eclipse Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:15:00 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id EAA24650 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ** sorry if this appears on the list twice, but my e-mail has been playing up ** I drove out of town after looking at the satellite image, and got as far as Bacchus marsh. Drove south from their (near Brisbane ranges) and got some lovely shots. These are just a few I shoved together quickly. Took the GPS along too, most of these shots were taken at 37°53.764S 144°16.487E (elev 250m) (~20-30k south of BM) http://www.trapdoor.com.au/images/eclipse02/index.htm The first two are projections of the eclipse through some binoculars. The third pic was taken about 7:15pm just after the eclipse started 4th,5th,and 6th pics were all taken at maxiumum eclipse (~7:50pm). Pretty nice corpuscle (sp?) ray shots !!! The last shot was actually taken prior to first contact, but the rainbow was extrodinary! James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Bussy Sent: Thursday, 5 December 2002 7:08 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Eclipse Couldn't see anything here as it was raining (red mud). Great shots. Wanted to show my kids, now I can. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:27 PM Subject: aus-wx: The Eclipse > A few small images from here in Melbourne tonight > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01t.jpg > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02t.jpg > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03t.jpg > > Larger images here... > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01.jpg > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02.jpg > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03.jpg > > Equipment...polarising sunglasses and a digital camera. > > Jane +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Eclipse Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:30:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Grin. Glad I read further. I thought it was someone making rabbit ear shadows on a piece of paper as a joke. Very sorry, and apologise but I did fail to read further and had a laugh. Well done though. I would never have thought of that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Holbeach" To: Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:15 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Eclipse > ** sorry if this appears on the list twice, but my e-mail has been > playing up ** > I drove out of town after looking at the satellite image, and got as > far as Bacchus marsh. Drove south from their (near Brisbane ranges) and > got some lovely shots. These are just a few I shoved together quickly. > > Took the GPS along too, most of these shots were taken at > > 37°53.764S > > 144°16.487E (elev 250m) > > (~20-30k south of BM) > > http://www.trapdoor.com.au/images/eclipse02/index.htm > > > > The first two are projections of the eclipse through some binoculars. > > The third pic was taken about 7:15pm just after the eclipse started > > 4th,5th,and 6th pics were all taken at maxiumum eclipse (~7:50pm). > Pretty nice corpuscle (sp?) ray shots !!! > > > > The last shot was actually taken prior to first contact, but the rainbow > was extrodinary! > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Bussy > Sent: Thursday, 5 December 2002 7:08 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Eclipse > > Couldn't see anything here as it was raining (red mud). Great shots. > Wanted > to show my kids, now I can. Thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane ONeill" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:27 PM > Subject: aus-wx: The Eclipse > > > > A few small images from here in Melbourne tonight > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01t.jpg > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02t.jpg > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03t.jpg > > > > Larger images here... > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon01.jpg > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon02.jpg > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec02/1204jon03.jpg > > > > Equipment...polarising sunglasses and a digital camera. > > > > Jane > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:02:56 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have very close friends living in First Ave in North Katoomba. Doeas 'ANYONE' know or know how I can get information on how their house is standing up to the fire or where exactly the fre front is?? I spoke to them just as they were being evacuated about an hour ago & they said they could almost see the flames! Damian 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:23:40 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Channel 9 was broadcasting emergency numbers in its news. You could call them and ask what number to ring (but not 000). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 10:02 PM Subject: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! > I have very close friends living in First Ave in North Katoomba. > Doeas 'ANYONE' know or know how I can get information on how their house is > standing up to the fire or where exactly the fre front is?? > I spoke to them just as they were being evacuated about an hour ago & they > said they could almost see the flames! > > Damian > 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Barbara" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:26:15 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ABC radio is a good source of info. They give all the numbers you can call. People call them with information about fires in all area. 702 ABC is the Sydney frequency. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Thursday, 5 December 2002 10:02 Subject: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! > I have very close friends living in First Ave in North Katoomba. > Doeas 'ANYONE' know or know how I can get information on how their house is > standing up to the fire or where exactly the fre front is?? > I spoke to them just as they were being evacuated about an hour ago & they > said they could almost see the flames! > > Damian > 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:26:10 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hi damian,
 
there's also an exellent up to date thread running in weatherzone forums
breaking weather, 'act & nsw fires dec2002'
 
 
richard
 
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Date: Thursday, 5 December 2002 9:40:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed!
 
I have very close friends living in First Ave in North Katoomba.
Doeas 'ANYONE' know or know how I can get information on how their house is
standing up to the fire or where exactly the fre front is??
I spoke to them just as they were being evacuated about an hour ago & they
said they could almost see the flames!

Damian
'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html

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Embedded Content: IMSTP23.gif: 00000001,6ff570ac,00000000,00000000 X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 23:07:13 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Storm on the Gold Coast - 30/11 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes Rhett, you have an artistic mind and seem to capture the scene. Love those pics as well as other pics people have taken of late. Keep them coming. Jimmy Deguara At 07:44 PM 5/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Ooooh yeah - love those pics Rhett! > >A job well done :) > > >At 10:33 PM 12/2/02 +1100, you wrote: > >Hi all, > >I was at Surfers Paradise on Saturday and got some photos of a great guster > >which was followed by strong winds and hail which damaged several > homes. It > >was one of those amazing times when the storm came to me. I just wandered > >across the road from where I was staying and there it was! > > > >Photos are here: http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021130_goldcoast.htm > > > >Rhett > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Max" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 23:21:13 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have just spoken to my friends in Second Avenue Nth Katoomba, and all is ok so far Max ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" To: Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 10:26 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! > ABC radio is a good source of info. They give all the numbers you can call. > People call them with information about fires in all area. 702 ABC is the > Sydney frequency. > > Barbara > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Damian" > To: > Sent: Thursday, 5 December 2002 10:02 > Subject: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! > > > > I have very close friends living in First Ave in North Katoomba. > > Doeas 'ANYONE' know or know how I can get information on how their house > is > > standing up to the fire or where exactly the fre front is?? > > I spoke to them just as they were being evacuated about an hour ago & they > > said they could almost see the flames! > > > > Damian > > 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:14:15 +1000 From: Lisa Collett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: en To: damoreds at optusnet.com.au, aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2002 00:14:26.0087 (UTC) FILETIME=[6FA82370:01C29CBC] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Damian, There are several websites with regular satellite updates on fires. We have one based on NOAA imagery which is fairly coarse for your needs but good for statewide and remote area monitoring: http://www.longpaddock.qld.gov.au/SatelliteFireMonitor/ For the scale you need the NSW Rural Fires Service has some excellent images and maps of the fires around the Greater Sydney region on their website: http://www.bushfire.nsw.gov.au. there is also a csiro site based on modis data: wwww.sentinel.csiro.au Hope all goes well for your friends. Cheers, Lisa Damian wrote: > > I have very close friends living in First Ave in North Katoomba. > Doeas 'ANYONE' know or know how I can get information on how their house is > standing up to the fire or where exactly the fre front is?? > I spoke to them just as they were being evacuated about an hour ago & they > said they could almost see the flames! > > Damian > 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- --------------------------------------------- Lisa Collett Remote Sensing (Fire) Queensland Centre for Climate Applications Climate Impacts & Natural Resource Systems Department of Natural Resources & Mines Ph: (07) 3896 9529 Fax: (07) 3896 9843 http://www.LongPaddock.qld.gov.au ************************************************************************ The information in this e-mail together with any attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any form of review, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, you are asked to inform the sender as quickly as possible and delete this message and any copies of this message from your computer and/or your computer system network. ************************************************************************ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Tuan Phan" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:47:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, NASA has just updated their latest publicly avail image of the NSW bushfires this morning. The very high resolution pic of the NSW fire on the 4/12 is located here. http://naturalhazards.nasa.gov/shownh.php3?img_id=5283 Pics of the fires for yesterday and today should be available in the next couple of days. tuan -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Lisa Collett Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 11:14 To: damoreds at optusnet.com.au; aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Damian, There are several websites with regular satellite updates on fires. We have one based on NOAA imagery which is fairly coarse for your needs but good for statewide and remote area monitoring: http://www.longpaddock.qld.gov.au/SatelliteFireMonitor/ For the scale you need the NSW Rural Fires Service has some excellent images and maps of the fires around the Greater Sydney region on their website: http://www.bushfire.nsw.gov.au. there is also a csiro site based on modis data: wwww.sentinel.csiro.au Hope all goes well for your friends. Cheers, Lisa Damian wrote: > > I have very close friends living in First Ave in North Katoomba. > Doeas 'ANYONE' know or know how I can get information on how their house is > standing up to the fire or where exactly the fre front is?? > I spoke to them just as they were being evacuated about an hour ago & they > said they could almost see the flames! > > Damian > 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- --------------------------------------------- Lisa Collett Remote Sensing (Fire) Queensland Centre for Climate Applications Climate Impacts & Natural Resource Systems Department of Natural Resources & Mines Ph: (07) 3896 9529 Fax: (07) 3896 9843 http://www.LongPaddock.qld.gov.au ************************************************************************ The information in this e-mail together with any attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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If you have received this message in error, you are asked to inform the sender as quickly as possible and delete this message and any copies of this message from your computer and/or your computer system network. ************************************************************************ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: November Averages Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:15:05 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The November Averages for my backyard in Sydney's Northern Suburbs between Chatswood West & North Ryde, on the Lane Cove River are:
 
Average Maximum29.5
Average Minimum14.5
Highest Maximum42.2 on the 25th
Lowest Minimum:   6.9  on the 5th
Rainfall:         61mm
 
 
 
For each days statistics for every month check out my website at:
X-Sender: hdewit at mail.sa.bom.gov.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:18:37 +1030 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Hank de Wit Subject: aus-wx: Re: Info on Bushfires needed! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 10:02 PM 5/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: > I have very close friends living in First Ave in North Katoomba. >Doeas 'ANYONE' know or know how I can get information on how their house is >standing up to the fire or where exactly the fre front is?? >I spoke to them just as they were being evacuated about an hour ago & they >said they could almost see the flames! > >Damian Hi Damian, The CSIRO site http://www.sentinel.csiro.au/ is very good. When you zoom into Katoomba it shows fires to the north of Katoomba in the Govetts Creek valley at 23Z this morning. However you probably have to be careful with using data from this site. It's from the Modus sensors on the NASA Terra and Aqua polar orbiting satellites. These satellite only pass over an area twice a day and sometimes the pass is not right over. The navigation and the fire detection system could be affected, so the locations and identifications may not be accurate in any particular case. This is a new system. Hope this is of interest. Cheers Hank de Wit Regional Computer Manager Bureau of Meteorology, SA ph: 08 8366 2674 Email: H.deWit at BoM.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:32:57 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp contrast X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Arky, When I was in Texas (1977), we called it "the Texas Blue Norther". Warm ahead of the front and freezing cold behind it. Clear blue sky, nice and sunny, but if you go outside you feel thankful you weren't born a brass monkey! I left Houston one day riding a motorbike to Galveston - lovely sunny day for a ride, I thought. When I reached Galveston it was 30F and the television that night reported the coldest day recorded in Galveston for 350 years. I have never felt so cold in my life. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "arky dave" To: Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 01:24:26 -0600 Subject: aus-wx: Temp contrast > G'December to All: > A vigorous Canadian cold front is plowing through Texas, making > for a good temp contrast. As of 12:53 A.M. Wed. Dec. 4th: In Amarillo > it was 20F(-6.6C) with light snow and a wind chill of 4F(-15.5C) while > at the same time Brownsville had 72F(22.2C) and fair skies. (More cool > news for ya'll). Tuesday in Mena was a cloudy, raw day with steady rain > and a very chilly N/NE wind with temps hanging around 38F(3.3C). We've > a chance of rain/sleet/snow flurries this morning--so I guess you can't > keep Old Man Winter away forever. I guess you can imagine yourself here > and getting cooled off and I can dream about being over in Aus and > getting a tan on a beach!!! > BTW, Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to Everyone! > Yours David (Looking for Snowflakes) Powell > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:42:54 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That was actually captured two days ago, the AQUA pass scheduled for 1:10pm (03:10 UTC) yesterday has not uploaded a pic, so unfortunately we didn't get an updated shot. I'm waiting for the orbital tracking data for today to come online so we can see when the next pass of Tera or Aqua is for a more recent image. This link provides direct access to the 2km,1km,500m, and 250m resolution shots from each of those satellites, from which that picture was captured. http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ As soon as the orbital data comes online, we'll be able to see when the next pass is and therefore when we can get the most recent shot. Cheers James James Holbeach ---------------------------------------- Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering University of Melbourne, Australia ph. +61 3 8344 6652 ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Tuan Phan Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 11:48 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Hi all, NASA has just updated their latest publicly avail image of the NSW bushfires this morning. The very high resolution pic of the NSW fire on the 4/12 is located here. http://naturalhazards.nasa.gov/shownh.php3?img_id=5283 Pics of the fires for yesterday and today should be available in the next couple of days. tuan -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Lisa Collett Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 11:14 To: damoreds at optusnet.com.au; aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Damian, There are several websites with regular satellite updates on fires. We have one based on NOAA imagery which is fairly coarse for your needs but good for statewide and remote area monitoring: http://www.longpaddock.qld.gov.au/SatelliteFireMonitor/ For the scale you need the NSW Rural Fires Service has some excellent images and maps of the fires around the Greater Sydney region on their website: http://www.bushfire.nsw.gov.au. there is also a csiro site based on modis data: wwww.sentinel.csiro.au Hope all goes well for your friends. Cheers, Lisa Damian wrote: > > I have very close friends living in First Ave in North Katoomba. > Doeas 'ANYONE' know or know how I can get information on how their house is > standing up to the fire or where exactly the fre front is?? > I spoke to them just as they were being evacuated about an hour ago & they > said they could almost see the flames! > > Damian > 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- --------------------------------------------- Lisa Collett Remote Sensing (Fire) Queensland Centre for Climate Applications Climate Impacts & Natural Resource Systems Department of Natural Resources & Mines Ph: (07) 3896 9529 Fax: (07) 3896 9843 http://www.LongPaddock.qld.gov.au ************************************************************************ The information in this e-mail together with any attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:17:51 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ok there is an AQUA pass scheduled for 03:55 UTC (1:55pm AEST) today that should get that area. It may take a few hours to be uploaded though. There are no passes of the Tera satellite today, which would show the region, but there will be one early tomorrow morning (I think- approximate extrapolation) Cheers James James Holbeach ---------------------------------------- Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering University of Melbourne, Australia ph. +61 3 8344 6652 ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of James Holbeach Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 1:43 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! That was actually captured two days ago, the AQUA pass scheduled for 1:10pm (03:10 UTC) yesterday has not uploaded a pic, so unfortunately we didn't get an updated shot. I'm waiting for the orbital tracking data for today to come online so we can see when the next pass of Tera or Aqua is for a more recent image. This link provides direct access to the 2km,1km,500m, and 250m resolution shots from each of those satellites, from which that picture was captured. http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ As soon as the orbital data comes online, we'll be able to see when the next pass is and therefore when we can get the most recent shot. Cheers James James Holbeach ---------------------------------------- Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering University of Melbourne, Australia ph. +61 3 8344 6652 ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Tuan Phan Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 11:48 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Hi all, NASA has just updated their latest publicly avail image of the NSW bushfires this morning. The very high resolution pic of the NSW fire on the 4/12 is located here. http://naturalhazards.nasa.gov/shownh.php3?img_id=5283 Pics of the fires for yesterday and today should be available in the next couple of days. tuan -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Lisa Collett Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 11:14 To: damoreds at optusnet.com.au; aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Damian, There are several websites with regular satellite updates on fires. We have one based on NOAA imagery which is fairly coarse for your needs but good for statewide and remote area monitoring: http://www.longpaddock.qld.gov.au/SatelliteFireMonitor/ For the scale you need the NSW Rural Fires Service has some excellent images and maps of the fires around the Greater Sydney region on their website: http://www.bushfire.nsw.gov.au. there is also a csiro site based on modis data: wwww.sentinel.csiro.au Hope all goes well for your friends. Cheers, Lisa Damian wrote: > > I have very close friends living in First Ave in North Katoomba. > Doeas 'ANYONE' know or know how I can get information on how their house is > standing up to the fire or where exactly the fre front is?? > I spoke to them just as they were being evacuated about an hour ago & they > said they could almost see the flames! > > Damian > 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- --------------------------------------------- Lisa Collett Remote Sensing (Fire) Queensland Centre for Climate Applications Climate Impacts & Natural Resource Systems Department of Natural Resources & Mines Ph: (07) 3896 9529 Fax: (07) 3896 9843 http://www.LongPaddock.qld.gov.au ************************************************************************ The information in this e-mail together with any attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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Hell All,
 
We went out about an hour ago and saw the biggest pyro cumulous smoke cloud that we have ever seen.  Finished the film, hope to get it printed tomorrow. The fire is about 17 k's from us and supposedly following the track of the 1994 fires.  The wind has been kind all morning but is now gaining strength.  Perhaps the wind change that they are talking about for this evening will save us from a repeat of January, 1994.
 
Our fabulous R F S volunteers are out there looking out for the safety of all in this area.
 
We even managed to see one of the Erricson Heliocopters in action, but not close enough to photograph.  He seemed to be fighting a losing battle though.
 
Judy Mayo
Mona Vale    N S W
 
 
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: US Ice storm update Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 01:32:28 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello & Greetings to All:
        Here is some info on the Dec. 3-5 Snow/Ice storm (from The Weather Channel). Up to 1FT (30.4cm) Snow fell in a band from New Mexico to Massachusetts... Power outages from Oklahoma to Virginia...Hardest hit by the Ice Storm was North Carolina/South Carolina where 1.5 Million homes/businesses are without power...1IN(25.4mm) of Ice accumulation in Carpenter, N.C.....20 storm related deaths (most in traffic accidents)....Thur. Dec. 5th= Record Snowfall for Date: 7IN(17.7cm) at Philadelphia, Pa...3.5IN(8.8cm) at Bridgeport, Ct.  We here in Mena only got a few snow flurries mixed with rain on Wednesday night. Rich Mountain looked awesome with a glaze of ice glistening in the sun. The heaviest snow/ice accumulations (closest to us) were in extreme N & NW Arkansas. We escaped it this time WHEW!!!
Enjoy your weekend!
Yours  David (Imagining WARM thoughts) Powell
From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: US Ice storm update Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 18:39:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
And this is one of the relevant analysis charts..a bit like one of our east coast lows in reverse. I think in the US it's called a 'northeaster'.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 6:32 PM
Subject: aus-wx: US Ice storm update

Hello & Greetings to All:
        Here is some info on the Dec. 3-5 Snow/Ice storm (from The Weather Channel). Up to 1FT (30.4cm) Snow fell in a band from New Mexico to Massachusetts... Power outages from Oklahoma to Virginia...Hardest hit by the Ice Storm was North Carolina/South Carolina where 1.5 Million homes/businesses are without power...1IN(25.4mm) of Ice accumulation in Carpenter, N.C.....20 storm related deaths (most in traffic accidents)....Thur. Dec. 5th= Record Snowfall for Date: 7IN(17.7cm) at Philadelphia, Pa...3.5IN(8.8cm) at Bridgeport, Ct.  We here in Mena only got a few snow flurries mixed with rain on Wednesday night. Rich Mountain looked awesome with a glaze of ice glistening in the sun. The heaviest snow/ice accumulations (closest to us) were in extreme N & NW Arkansas. We escaped it this time WHEW!!!
Enjoy your weekend!
Yours  David (Imagining WARM thoughts) Powell
From: "David James Powell" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: US Ice storm update X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.00 X-IPAddress: 208.189.4.45 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 02:13:54 -0600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks for that. It's actually called a Nor'easter. A few times each winter, states from NC to Maine get plastered with monster Snowfall and very gusty Northeast winds. Localities closest to the Ocean may get copious rainfall. > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > And this is one of the relevant analysis charts..a bit like one of our east coast lows in reverse. I think in the US it's called a 'northeaster'. > > http://aipswebu1.fnmoc.navy.mil/MyWxmap/servlet/sh owChart? action=select&mode=world&image=N_MN70N21W173W54R8C 0.gif&order=N_MN70N21W173W54- 0.xml&model=0&view=8&id=5771 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: arky dave > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 6:32 PM > Subject: aus-wx: US Ice storm update > > > Hello & Greetings to All: > Here is some info on the Dec. 3-5 Snow/Ice storm (from The Weather Channel). Up to 1FT (30.4cm) Snow fell in a band from New Mexico to Massachusetts... Power outages from Oklahoma to Virginia...Hardest hit by the Ice Storm was North Carolina/South Carolina where 1.5 Million homes/businesses are without power...1IN(25.4mm) of Ice accumulation in Carpenter, N.C.....20 storm related deaths (most in traffic accidents)....Thur. Dec. 5th= Record Snowfall for Date: 7IN(17.7cm) at Philadelphia, Pa...3.5IN (8.8cm) at Bridgeport, Ct. We here in Mena only got a few snow flurries mixed with rain on Wednesday night. Rich Mountain looked awesome with a glaze of ice glistening in the sun. The heaviest snow/ice accumulations (closest to us) were in extreme N & NW Arkansas. We escaped it this time WHEW!!! > Enjoy your weekend! > Yours David (Imagining WARM thoughts) Powell > > -- Sent using Voltage Net Webmail http://www.voltage.net/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 23:57:11 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: US Ice storm update From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi David. An interesting event there yes, i have a very close friend who lives an hour out of Jonesboro in NE Arkansas.. she told me all about it and upon further research here (and with CNN helping) have found out a lot more info. The other morning i was on the phone to her & could hear the branches snapping and landing on her car (which was frozen solid also). I think i will stick to the Supercells for some reason ;-) Regards Dale +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 01:44:56 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ok here is the Aqua image (again highly cropped- full size see link below) from today 1:50pm AEST (03:50 UTC)- I have posted 3 links; a high res cropped shot, a low res cropped shot, and a link to the original. High res ~300kb: http://www.trapdoor.com.au/weather/medSE-AUS-061202-fire-250m.jpg Medium res ~ 120kb: http://www.trapdoor.com.au/weather/smallSE-AUS-061202-fire-250m.jpg I was hoping this would show more detail . . . unfort it was a bit to far north . . . The link to the full sized 250m res shot is below. http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/production/single.cgi?2002340/crefl2_ 143.A2002340035000-2002340035500.250m.jpg Do not click on that unless u have cable ~ 7.5Mb Cheers James James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of James Holbeach Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 2:18 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Ok there is an AQUA pass scheduled for 03:55 UTC (1:55pm AEST) today that should get that area. It may take a few hours to be uploaded though. There are no passes of the Tera satellite today, which would show the region, but there will be one early tomorrow morning (I think- approximate extrapolation) Cheers James James Holbeach ---------------------------------------- Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering University of Melbourne, Australia ph. +61 3 8344 6652 ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of James Holbeach Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 1:43 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! That was actually captured two days ago, the AQUA pass scheduled for 1:10pm (03:10 UTC) yesterday has not uploaded a pic, so unfortunately we didn't get an updated shot. I'm waiting for the orbital tracking data for today to come online so we can see when the next pass of Tera or Aqua is for a more recent image. This link provides direct access to the 2km,1km,500m, and 250m resolution shots from each of those satellites, from which that picture was captured. http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ As soon as the orbital data comes online, we'll be able to see when the next pass is and therefore when we can get the most recent shot. Cheers James James Holbeach ---------------------------------------- Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering University of Melbourne, Australia ph. +61 3 8344 6652 ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Tuan Phan Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 11:48 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Hi all, NASA has just updated their latest publicly avail image of the NSW bushfires this morning. The very high resolution pic of the NSW fire on the 4/12 is located here. http://naturalhazards.nasa.gov/shownh.php3?img_id=5283 Pics of the fires for yesterday and today should be available in the next couple of days. tuan -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Lisa Collett Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 11:14 To: damoreds at optusnet.com.au; aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Info on Bushfires needed! Damian, There are several websites with regular satellite updates on fires. We have one based on NOAA imagery which is fairly coarse for your needs but good for statewide and remote area monitoring: http://www.longpaddock.qld.gov.au/SatelliteFireMonitor/ For the scale you need the NSW Rural Fires Service has some excellent images and maps of the fires around the Greater Sydney region on their website: http://www.bushfire.nsw.gov.au. there is also a csiro site based on modis data: wwww.sentinel.csiro.au Hope all goes well for your friends. 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Hi all,
 
Absolutely AWESOME!  (You just can't describe an event like that in any other way.)
 
After finishing work here in Adelaide Monday afternoon, my 4wd already packed the night before, I hit the road for Streaky Bay where friends (Andrew & Kathryn) & I had accommodation in a cabin at the local caravan park. Andrew & Kathryn arriving earlier in the day & myself arriving around 12.30am Tuesday morning.
 
Tuesday itself was spent doing the touristy thing visiting the local attractions & taking plenty of pics & video. Finished off the day with a bit of fishing along the shore then dinner at the local pub.
 
Wednesday morning found the whole caravan park awake early it seemed with everybody keen on making an early start on the day. We arrived in Ceduna around 11am &  headed straight for the BoM facility near the airport for the latest info on the weather. We were told that the cloud cover that was overhead at the time was probably going to clear by late afternoon but they would know more later in the day.
So we spent the next couple of hours wondering the streets of Ceduna taking in the sites & sounds, spending a little $$$ here & there (some of us a little more then we had first planned ;) & even watching a biplane doing an aerobatic display over the foreshore.
A quick trip back to the BoM to check on updates & we were invited inside to see the latest satellite pictures :)
The guys there told us that it would be better to head inland a few km's for clear skies as the cloud cover over Ceduna was hugging the coast mostly. They then gave us a couple of maps of the local area & we thanked them kindly for their help.
With around 4 hours still to go before first contact we thought we'd go down to the foreshore & get ourselves a spot to setup & see if this cloud overhead might clear or not.
There was already a lot of people on the grassy area along the coast setting up for the eclipse including one guy who had strung up a hammock between the trees and had settles himself down with a good book while he waited. 
It was very windy & a bit chilly here on the foreshore but we found a spot, set ourselves up & waited to see what the weather was going to do. But with 2 hours to go things were not looking any better, in fact the cloud cover seemed to be getting heavier & the BoM's prediction for the event being clouded out had jumped from 20% to 40%.
 
It was time to make a judgment call.
We could stay in Ceduna, risk being clouded out & missing the eclipse or we could hit the road, head north & try to get out from under this cloud cover...
 
With everything packed in the 4wd, maps in hand, we headed out of Ceduna in search of clear skies.
This wasn't as hard as it sounds as clear blue skies could be seen north of Ceduna from the town itself and we made our way towards the old OTC (overseas telecommunication centre) facility, now used by the University of Tasmania ( http://kerr.phys.utas.edu.au/observatories/ceduna.html ).
With this dish as a backdrop on the far horizon we found ourselves a nice little hill giving us a clear 360 deg. view & set up our gear on the side of the dirt road. We were soon not alone on *our* hill as others from the town had obviously made the same call as us & were trying to find a better viewing spot. Even a mini-bus full of overseas tourists complete with telescopes & cameras on tripods turned up.
 
First contact! It was showtime.
Andrew had set up his Russian made 4.5" reflector to project the Sun's image into a projection screen & I had my video camera recording this image at intervals. A 35mm SLR camera on a tripod & a couple of digital cameras were also used.
As second contact neared you could really see the amount of sunlight diminish giving an appearance almost like sunlight shining through a haze from a nearby bushfire - strange.
Then like someone slowly turning down a dimmer switch in a room to 3/4 off then suddenly twisting the switch all the way off... Second contact *really* took me by surprise!
 
There it was - Totality.
I'd seen the all pictures before & watched the video clips on the TV & I thought I knew what to expect, but NOTHING could prepare you for actually viewing your first total eclipse with your own eyes - NOTHING!!!
Andrew stood there beside me "gob-smacked", totally forgetting about his 35mm camera as the black disc of the moon stood out boldly against the bright halo of the Sun's Corona in a Midnight blue sky. Luckily Kathryn was on the ball & took over on the camera but then halfway through Totality the camera ran out of film & the sickening sound of the electric motor drive rewinding the film sounded like a freight train in the silence of the moment! :( 
 
We were set up a little off the centre line at our location so our time in the moon's shadow was a little less then the 33sec. that could have been and in what seemed like no time at all... Third contact.
Like a brilliant burst of energy the Sun's light shattered the awe of Totality giving us a brief glimpse of the (second) "Diamond Ring" effect & stripping away the Midnight blue that had bathed the surrounding sky. It was over. The moon now began it's retreat from the Sun & slowly everything began to return to normal.
 
We watched the moon's retreat for a while then decided to drive over to the old OTC facility and have a look at the 30m radio dish. This facility had seen 99.9% of the Sun covered & was a mere 750m outside the Totality line - so near, yet so far! It had been tracking the Sun during the eclipse and while we were there the dish was shifted from looking at the horizon (at the setting Sun) to facing directly overhead (parked position).
With that last little show over we headed back towards Streaky Bay as the last rays of Sunshine slipped below the horizon still 20% covered by the Moon... 
 
We had travelled great distances and waited what seemed a life time for this moment and it was over in such a short time but the memories & images it left behind will last us a lifetime.
 
It is the greatest show on Earth! 
 
 
From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: wet Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:11:34 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Severe Weather Warning

Issued by MetService at 08:52am 07-Dec-2002

A SHORT PERIOD OF INTENSE HEAVY RAIN FOR MANY PARTS OF THE UPPER
NORTH ISLAND TODAY
North of a line from Mt Taranaki to Taihape to East Cape, MetService
expects rain to become persistent, thundery and quite intense for a
relatively brief period of about 6 to 9 hours as a front crosses the
upper half of the North Island this afternoon and evening.

About Mt Taranki, heavy rainfall with up to 150 mm is expected this
afternoon.

Over the high ground south of Mangakino to the northwestern slopes of
Mt Ruapehu and the Kaimanawa Mountains, about 90 to 120mm is likely
from about early afternoon. Also,in the lower hill country from
Mangakino to Taumarunui to Te Awamutu, 40 to 60 mm of rain is likely
there.

Further east on the ranges of eastern Bay of Plenty, up to 80mm may
fall with the rain becoming heavy from this evening.

Travellers through the central North Island and recreational users of
any rivers in this general area, including the Waikato and Wanganui,
Rivers, should be prepared and are advised to keep up to date with
the latest warnings and weather information.

FOR THE LATEST WEATHER AND FORECAST CHARTS PLEASE GO TO

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MORE DETAILED INFORMATION FOR EMERGENCY MANAGERS AND TECHNICAL USERS
FOLLOWS:

HEAVY RAIN WARNING

AREA/S AFFECTED: ABOUT MOUNT TARANKI, THE HIGH GROUND FROM ABOUT
MANGAKINO TO THE NORTHWEST SLOPES OF MT RUAPEHU TO THE KAIMANAWA
MOUNTAINS, INCLUDING THE HILL COUNTRY OF SOUTH WAIKATO AND TAUMARUNUI
AND THE EASTERN BAY OF PLENTY RANGES.
FORECAST:

ABOUT MT TARANAKI.
Rain is expected to become heavier this morning. In the 6 to 9 hour
period from about noon today, expect up to 150mm with peak
intensities up to 30mm per hour this afternoon.

THE HIGH GROUND FROM ABOUT MANGAKINO TO THE NORTHWEST SLOPES OF MT
RUAPEHU TO THE KAIMANAWA MOUNTAINS.
Rain is expected to become heavy this afternoon. In the 6 to 9 hours
from about 2pm, expect 90 to 120mm of rain peaking at about 15mm per
hour in the early evening. Also, in the lower hill country from
Mangakino to Taumarunui to Te Awamutu 40 to 60mm is likely.

THE EASTERN RANGES OF BAY OF PLENTY.
Rain is expected to become heavier during the afternoon. In the 9
hours from about 7pm this evening, expect up to 80mm rain.

NEXT SEVERE WEATHER WARNING WILL BE ISSUED AT OR BEFORE
9:00pm Saturday 07-Dec-2002

Forecast prepared by: Paul Mallinson

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X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 13:43:01 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >There it was - Totality. >I'd seen the all pictures before & watched the video clips on the TV & I >thought I knew what to expect, but NOTHING could prepare you for actually >viewing your first total eclipse with your own eyes - NOTHING!!! >Andrew stood there beside me "gob-smacked", totally forgetting about his >35mm camera as the black disc of the moon stood out boldly against the >bright halo of the Sun's Corona in a Midnight blue sky. Luckily Kathryn >was on the ball & took over on the camera but then halfway through >Totality the camera ran out of film & the sickening sound of the electric >motor drive rewinding the film sounded like a freight train in the silence >of the moment! :( I have to agree. I was lucky to be in the right place at the right time - central Victoria in 1976, and I can still vividly remember the total eclipse on that day - from the weeks of anticipation (I was a real space nut then) to the construction of a pinhole camera and the actual moment of totality itself. A total solar eclipse is a must for anyone who has any interest in astronomy at all. I was lucky I was able to experience mine in the first 10 years of life. Hopefully, I'll be able to head north to experience my second in 2012. :) >It is the greatest show on Earth! With a heavenly cast! In any case, you're not wrong. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:01:32 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >A total solar eclipse is a must for anyone who has any interest in >astronomy at all. I was lucky I was able to experience mine in the first >10 years of life. Hopefully, I'll be able to head north to experience my >second in 2012. :) > Total Eclipses that are due this century to pass right over a capital city are: Sydney 28th July, 2028 Brisbane 13th July, 2037 Perth 31st May, 2068 Brisbane 27th January, 2093 (also passes just north of Adelaide) Ahh, a long wait for all cities :) Jacob +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 13:59:52 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yeah, I reckon I might have to give that Brisbane one in 2093 a miss (seeing as how I was born in 1946). Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Jacob To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:01:32 +0800 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA > > > > >A total solar eclipse is a must for anyone who has any interest in > >astronomy at all. I was lucky I was able to experience mine in the > first > >10 years of life. Hopefully, I'll be able to head north to experience > my > >second in 2012. :) > > > > Total Eclipses that are due this century to pass right over a capital > city are: > > Sydney 28th July, 2028 > Brisbane 13th July, 2037 > Perth 31st May, 2068 > Brisbane 27th January, 2093 (also passes just north of Adelaide) > > Ahh, a long wait for all cities :) > > Jacob > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: A Question Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 00:33:17 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Holiday Greetings to All:
        I've another question: How can melting take place when the temperature is below freezing? I've seen Snow melt off our roof when the temps were in the high 20sF. To my (unscientific) way of thinking, if it's below freezing nothing should be melting.
Thanks for your answers.
David (In a Cold Holiday Mood) Powell
From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 18:34:01 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Good question dave.
I'd think it would have something to do with the heat of the house, heating the roof ever so slightly,  the melting then occurs.
 
I would like to find out more on a similar thing that is happening in Antartica. The Ice selfs are melting, but its not from the top, its from the bottom. Strange things IMO.

Cheers
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Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 5:33 PM
Subject: aus-wx: A Question

Holiday Greetings to All:
        I've another question: How can melting take place when the temperature is below freezing? I've seen Snow melt off our roof when the temps were in the high 20sF. To my (unscientific) way of thinking, if it's below freezing nothing should be melting.
Thanks for your answers.
David (In a Cold Holiday Mood) Powell
 

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X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 18:46:17 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Awesome Bushfire photographs eclipse as well Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello, Been a while since I posted the latest pictures but these latest ones are certainly applicable to this point in time with bushfires prevalent across NSW. http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20021207.html http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd2002120702.html 2 pages worth of photographs These were of the Glenorie bushfires and the latter photographs were the Menai. I am still shell shocked at the conditions as well as the colours displayed. It is unfortunate that under those fires lay devastation of bush and households. I was also amazed at the similarity in the structure of the bushfire storms and some severe storms in similar wind conditions. Compare this photograph by Geoff Thurtell last year. http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901gt23.jpg and http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1204jd34.jpg Very interesting. ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 19:11:14 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 01:59 PM 7/12/2002 +0800, you wrote: >Yeah, I reckon I might have to give that Brisbane one in 2093 a miss >(seeing as how I was born in 1946). You never know the advances in medical technology... :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David James Powell" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.00 X-IPAddress: 208.189.4.115 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 03:23:50 -0600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I guess it does have something to do with the heat from our house, but I've seen the same thing happening on the roof of our (unattached) unheated storage building. Now what would cause that? > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > Good question dave. > I'd think it would have something to do with the heat of the house, heating the roof ever so slightly, the melting then occurs. > > I would like to find out more on a similar thing that is happening in Antartica. The Ice selfs are melting, but its not from the top, its from the bottom. Strange things IMO. > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > ------------------------------------------------ -------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: arky dave > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 5:33 PM > Subject: aus-wx: A Question > > > Holiday Greetings to All: > I've another question: How can melting take place when the temperature is below freezing? I've seen Snow melt off our roof when the temps were in the high 20sF. To my (unscientific) way of thinking, if it's below freezing nothing should be melting. > Thanks for your answers. > David (In a Cold Holiday Mood) Powell > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Scanned with AVG and NAV for Win2k > with the very latest Virus definition files. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 26/11/2002 > -- Sent using Voltage Net Webmail http://www.voltage.net/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 20:54:59 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tony, 1976 I was living in Naracoorte in the SE of SA. I was 7 years old at the time & all I remember of the eclipse was the sky getting dark & our chooks going into their shed to roost. Then a little while later the sky got light again & the chooks came back out & started scratching around in the dirt again. This time around I think I'll remember a little more then last time :) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:13 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA > > > > >There it was - Totality. > >I'd seen the all pictures before & watched the video clips on the TV & I > >thought I knew what to expect, but NOTHING could prepare you for actually > >viewing your first total eclipse with your own eyes - NOTHING!!! > >Andrew stood there beside me "gob-smacked", totally forgetting about his > >35mm camera as the black disc of the moon stood out boldly against the > >bright halo of the Sun's Corona in a Midnight blue sky. Luckily Kathryn > >was on the ball & took over on the camera but then halfway through > >Totality the camera ran out of film & the sickening sound of the electric > >motor drive rewinding the film sounded like a freight train in the silence > >of the moment! :( > > I have to agree. I was lucky to be in the right place at the right time - > central Victoria in 1976, and I can still vividly remember the total > eclipse on that day - from the weeks of anticipation (I was a real space > nut then) to the construction of a pinhole camera and the actual moment of > totality itself. > > A total solar eclipse is a must for anyone who has any interest in > astronomy at all. I was lucky I was able to experience mine in the first > 10 years of life. Hopefully, I'll be able to head north to experience my > second in 2012. :) > > >It is the greatest show on Earth! > > With a heavenly cast! In any case, you're not wrong. :) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vkradio.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 21:58:12 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:54 PM 7/12/2002 +1030, you wrote: >1976 I was living in Naracoorte in the SE of SA. I was 7 years old at the >time & all I remember of the eclipse was the sky getting dark & our chooks >going into their shed to roost. Then a little while later the sky got light >again & the chooks came back out & started scratching around in the dirt >again. I was 8, but was fully aware of what was going on... :-) >This time around I think I'll remember a little more then last time :) Hehe, cool. :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 22:50:02 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hi paul,
were you in naracoorte at the time of the eclipse?
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Saturday, 7 December 2002 9:08:33 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA
 
Hi Tony,

1976 I was living in Naracoorte in the SE of SA. I was 7 years old at the
time & all I remember of the eclipse was the sky getting dark & our chooks
going into their shed to roost. Then a little while later the sky got light
again & the chooks came back out & started scratching around in the dirt
again.

This time around I think I'll remember a little more then last time :)

Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" <vk3jed-1 at optusnet.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA


>
> >
> >There it was - Totality.
> >I'd seen the all pictures before & watched the video clips on the TV & I
> >thought I knew what to expect, but NOTHING could prepare you for actually
> >viewing your first total eclipse with your own eyes - NOTHING!!!
> >Andrew stood there beside me "gob-smacked", totally forgetting about his
> >35mm camera as the black disc of the moon stood out boldly against the
> >bright halo of the Sun's Corona in a Midnight blue sky. Luckily Kathryn
> >was on the ball & took over on the camera but then halfway through
> >Totality the camera ran out of film & the sickening sound of the electric
> >motor drive rewinding the film sounded like a freight train in the
silence
> >of the moment! :(
>
> I have to agree. I was lucky to be in the right place at the right time -
> central Victoria in 1976, and I can still vividly remember the total
> eclipse on that day - from the weeks of anticipation (I was a real space
> nut thenRe aus-wx Eclipse - Ceduna SA.ems ) to the construction of a pinhole camera and the actual moment of
> totality itself.
>
> A total solar eclipse is a must for anyone who has any interest in
> astronomy at all. I was lucky I was able to experience mine in the first
> 10 years of life. Hopefully, I'll be able to head north to experience my
> second in 2012. :)
>
> >It is the greatest show on Earth!
>
> With a heavenly cast! In any case, you're not wrong. :)
>
> 73 de Tony, VK3JED
> http://vkradio.com
>
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Embedded Content: IMSTP24.gif: 00000001,564a51d7,00000000,00000000 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 20:27:21 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I was 30 years old for that one. We hopped on the motorbike and sidecar and went up the Hume Highway and then off on a side road and stopped on top of a hill that was right on the centreline of the shadow. As Paul said, your first total eclipse is an absolutely unforgettable experience. It's something you remember for the rest of your life. Where I was, not only the chooks at the nearby farm went into roost, but we particularly noticed all the birds in the trees all around as well. And down below on the Hume Highway all the traffic had their lights on and the service station was lit up as well. My wife worked for the SEC at the time and they had to make special arrangements for the predicted flood of electricity that was going to be needed. I have loved reading these reports. Really brings back memories for me of an unforgettable, once in a lifetime experience. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Stargazer" To: Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 20:54:59 +1030 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA > Hi Tony, > > 1976 I was living in Naracoorte in the SE of SA. I was 7 years old at > the > time & all I remember of the eclipse was the sky getting dark & our > chooks > going into their shed to roost. Then a little while later the sky got > light > again & the chooks came back out & started scratching around in the > dirt > again. > > This time around I think I'll remember a little more then last time :) > > Regs. Paul. > (Stargazer) > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:13 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA > > > > > > > > > >There it was - Totality. > > >I'd seen the all pictures before & watched the video clips on the TV > & I > > >thought I knew what to expect, but NOTHING could prepare you for > actually > > >viewing your first total eclipse with your own eyes - NOTHING!!! > > >Andrew stood there beside me "gob-smacked", totally forgetting about > his > > >35mm camera as the black disc of the moon stood out boldly against > the > > >bright halo of the Sun's Corona in a Midnight blue sky. Luckily > Kathryn > > >was on the ball & took over on the camera but then halfway through > > >Totality the camera ran out of film & the sickening sound of the > electric > > >motor drive rewinding the film sounded like a freight train in the > silence > > >of the moment! :( > > > > I have to agree. I was lucky to be in the right place at the right > time - > > central Victoria in 1976, and I can still vividly remember the total > > eclipse on that day - from the weeks of anticipation (I was a real > space > > nut then) to the construction of a pinhole camera and the actual > moment of > > totality itself. > > > > A total solar eclipse is a must for anyone who has any interest in > > astronomy at all. I was lucky I was able to experience mine in the > first > > 10 years of life. Hopefully, I'll be able to head north to > experience my > > second in 2012. :) > > > > >It is the greatest show on Earth! > > > > With a heavenly cast! In any case, you're not wrong. :) > > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > > http://vkradio.com > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 20:38:19 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awesome Bushfire photographs eclipse as well X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some great photography there Jimmy. As you said, it is sad that there has to be such destruction associated with it. The one thing that surprised me was the incredible length of cable between the chopper and the bucket. The choppers here in HK fill up in the river in front of our place whenever there are fires around but the cables are much shorter so the helicopters are almost on the river surface when they fill up their buckets. We look down on top of them from our window. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Jimmy Deguara To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 18:46:17 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Awesome Bushfire photographs eclipse as well > Hello, > > Been a while since I posted the latest pictures but these latest ones > are > certainly applicable to this point in time with bushfires prevalent > across NSW. > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20021207 > .html > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20021207 > 02.html > > 2 pages worth of photographs > > These were of the Glenorie bushfires and the latter photographs were > the > Menai. I am still shell shocked at the conditions as well as the > colours > displayed. It is unfortunate that under those fires lay devastation of > bush > and households. I was also amazed at the similarity in the structure of > the > bushfire storms and some severe storms in similar wind conditions. > > Compare this photograph by Geoff Thurtell last year. > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901gt23. > jpg > > and > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1204jd34. > jpg > > Very interesting. > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - > http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 23:27:26 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Richard,
 
Yes, I was in Naracoorte at the time of the eclipse in 1976. But as I said before, I don't remember very much of it at all :(
My parents have told me how they had the cardboard with the pinhole in it watching the eclipse & the old lady next door saying they should all go inside before they all got blind :) 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA

hi paul,
were you in naracoorte at the time of the eclipse?
 
richard
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 23:55:05 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hi paul,
 
yes i was in my last year of highschool at the time, at the last minute i wagged the day and hitched a ride to the mount, couldn't help myself, naracoorte didn't go total,
when i got back people here said there was a slight dimming like heavy Cs cover and the sun looked like the first crescent of a new moon but it didn't get to twilight or dark. i was going to go up to centenary tower but too many other people had the same idea.
there's supposed to be a total in the nt in 2012, my young fella will be old enough by then so i might chater a plane and go up there and be up flying when it happens so we can watch the shadow wipe the earth.
 
regards
richard
naracoorte
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Saturday, 7 December 2002 11:39:47 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA
 
Hi Richard,
 
Yes, I was in Naracoorte at the time of the eclipse in 1976. But as I said before, I don't remember very much of it at all :(
My parents have told me how they had the cardboard with the pinhole in it watching the eclipse & the old lady next door saying they should all go inside before they all got blind :) 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eclipse - Ceduna SA

hi paul,
were you in naracoorte at the time of the eclipse?
 
richard
.
 
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Embedded Content: IMSTP25.gif: 00000001,72d9a971,00000000,00000000 From: "John Patten" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 06:03:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This needs input from a physicist, but a part of the answer could be sublimation. Ice sublimates at a much colder (-70 Celsius) temperature than it melts. This may be part of the answer to the question "what happened to the water on Mars" - how could Mars have lost all its water (planetary mass too low for gravitational containment) when its temperature never rose above freezing, whereas much smaller bodies, such as comets, remain intact? See for example http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0212/05mars/index.html where the Mars problem is discussed. There have been recent papers in Science. What does sublimating ice look like - like a comet's tail. Physicists, please correct this if it is incorrect. A simple test is - that the disappearing snow on the roof does not drip. John Patten ----- Original Message ----- From: "David James Powell" To: Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question > I guess it does have something to do with the > heat from our house, but I've seen the same thing > happening on the roof of our (unattached) > unheated storage building. Now what would cause > that? > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > Good question dave. > > I'd think it would have something to do with > the heat of the house, heating the roof ever so > slightly, the melting then occurs. > > > > I would like to find out more on a similar > thing that is happening in Antartica. The Ice > selfs are melting, but its not from the top, its > from the bottom. Strange things IMO. > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > ------------------------------------------------ > -------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: arky dave > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 5:33 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: A Question > > > > > > Holiday Greetings to All: > > I've another question: How can > melting take place when the temperature is below > freezing? I've seen Snow melt off our roof when > the temps were in the high 20sF. 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TDU chasers reviewed the video and gave it the 'thumbs up'!! If you would like a copy, see details at http://www.stormchasers.au.com/supercells2002.htm , drop me an email - there are extra PAL format copies available. Copies can also be sent to NZ ($80 AUD), & for European readers who are interested in obtaining a copy, I can give you a 'local' contact. Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: meso at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:57:54 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Mal Ninnes Subject: aus-wx: Next NSW ASWA Meeting - Saturday 14th December Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello aussie-weather people, The next NSW ASWA meeting will be held on Saturday, 14th of November. Venue: The Weather Company, 7 West St, North Sydney. Time: 7pm Parking: Free in the streets around the TWC building. Press the 'Weather21' buzzer to be let in. We are having a rather quiet month (presentation wise) for December, although there are a few videos from members that will be shown on Saturday evening. If you have video of your own that you would like to share with everyone else, please bring it along. Also, photos/slides/charts/experiences - bring them all and show them off :) The last presentation and discussion on the AVN model was promising - mark off the second Saturdays of January and February as well for some more tutorials and surprise presentations. If the feedback is good then we will plan more. We usually order pizza as well, so bring about $5 for that. For more information, visit http://www.severeweather.asn.au/states/nsw/index.htm or email meso at iinet.net.au Friends and relatives are welcome - come along and discuss the weather! See you there, Malcolm Ninnes and Matthew Pearce NSW ASWA State Reps +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: question Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:19:09 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi list with the super cells or for that matter any weather phenoma is there a place or a book that can tell me the construction of these , with regards to temperature, humidity, wind speed Stephen galowski +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "twc" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 14:39:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, As Simon says (no pun intended), it's the heat from the roof or house that's causing the melting to occur. So where it's melting, it is above freezing. The surrounding environment (air temperature) maybe well below freezing, but the roof temperature must be above freezing :) Cheers, Paul Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Patten" To: Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:03 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question > This needs input from a physicist, but a part of the answer could be > sublimation. Ice sublimates at a much colder (-70 Celsius) temperature than > it melts. > > This may be part of the answer to the question "what happened to the water > on Mars" - how could Mars have lost all its water (planetary mass too low > for gravitational containment) when its temperature never rose above > freezing, whereas much smaller bodies, such as comets, remain intact? > > See for example http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0212/05mars/index.html where > the Mars problem is discussed. There have been recent papers in Science. > > What does sublimating ice look like - like a comet's tail. > > Physicists, please correct this if it is incorrect. A simple test is - that > the disappearing snow on the roof does not drip. > > John Patten > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David James Powell" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question > > > > I guess it does have something to do with the > > heat from our house, but I've seen the same thing > > happening on the roof of our (unattached) > > unheated storage building. Now what would cause > > that? > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > Good question dave. > > > I'd think it would have something to do with > > the heat of the house, heating the roof ever so > > slightly, the melting then occurs. > > > > > > I would like to find out more on a similar > > thing that is happening in Antartica. The Ice > > selfs are melting, but its not from the top, its > > from the bottom. Strange things IMO. > > > > > > Cheers > > > --------------------------------- > > > Simon Angell > > > Canberra, ACT > > > www.canberra-wx.com > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > Proud member of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > -------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: arky dave > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 5:33 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: A Question > > > > > > > > > Holiday Greetings to All: > > > I've another question: How can > > melting take place when the temperature is below > > freezing? I've seen Snow melt off our roof when > > the temps were in the high 20sF. To my > > (unscientific) way of thinking, if it's below > > freezing nothing should be melting. > > > Thanks for your answers. > > > David (In a Cold Holiday Mood) Powell > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Scanned with AVG and NAV for Win2k > > > with the very latest Virus definition files. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > > (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - > > Release Date: 26/11/2002 > > > > > > > -- > > Sent using Voltage Net Webmail > > http://www.voltage.net/ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fire - roads updates Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 16:28:45 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI all.
 
Just heard on radio scanner for Blue Mtns area.. Major fires at Hydro Majestic area. Great Western Hwy has been closed at Medlow Bath and Katoomba.  All traffic being diverted to Bells Line of Road.
 
Dave
 
From: "Steve Baynham" To: "weather" Subject: aus-wx: canberra lightning pics Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 22:48:55 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hi ppl!! here are the best photos i got from the storm that passsed over Canberra on the 29th of November. not too shabby, wish i had more, http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/steve/02112901.shtml http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/steve/02112902.shtml http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/steve/02112903.shtml Steve Baynham icq : 26863574 Brisbane Storm Chasers http://www.bsch.au.com Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au Homepage http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 00:23:34 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: More photograph contributions Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/recd15.htm http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/recd16.htm Some more photographs from various sources have been added thanks to those who have offered to contribute. any thanks to them and the time they have put into preparation. ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: A Question Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:58:56 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It is a good question, and there are multiple answers, depending on the situation. In the case of snow melting off a tin roof two effects are in progress. 1) Melting of snow due to heat losses from the building. 2) radiative heat transfer from the sun to the surface of a darkly coloured roof. It is a fair indication of how well a building is insulated to look at how many icicles form on the eves. More icicles = more heat loss = worse insulation. Icicles form when the water from the melted snow from the roof, encounters the sub zero air temps, and re freezes. Another example is a rock in the snow (or as happened last year, mallee dust colouring the snow). Now the rock, or coloured snow would normally be at the surrounding air temperature. However sunlight (even on a cloudy day) provides radiative heat transfer, which will heat the rock to the surrounding air temperature. This is a pretty obvious phenomenon. Last year, the mallee dust coloured snow melted significantly quicker than the surrounding patches of pure white stuff! What is NOT so obvious, is the question- how does a frost form when the air temperature is +3C???? This is radiative heat transfer the other way around. The ground is warmer than space, so it "radiates" heat to space (at about 3K), cooling it to below the surrounding air temperature, often below zero. I could go onto more about how black-body radiation works, but for the moment I hope that answers your question. James p.s. I don't think water ice sublimation occurs at Standard temperature and pressure. . . . but I'll check James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of twc Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2002 2:40 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question Hi Everyone, As Simon says (no pun intended), it's the heat from the roof or house that's causing the melting to occur. So where it's melting, it is above freezing. The surrounding environment (air temperature) maybe well below freezing, but the roof temperature must be above freezing :) Cheers, Paul Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Patten" To: Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:03 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question > This needs input from a physicist, but a part of the answer could be > sublimation. Ice sublimates at a much colder (-70 Celsius) temperature than > it melts. > > This may be part of the answer to the question "what happened to the water > on Mars" - how could Mars have lost all its water (planetary mass too low > for gravitational containment) when its temperature never rose above > freezing, whereas much smaller bodies, such as comets, remain intact? > > See for example http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0212/05mars/index.html where > the Mars problem is discussed. There have been recent papers in Science. > > What does sublimating ice look like - like a comet's tail. > > Physicists, please correct this if it is incorrect. A simple test is - that > the disappearing snow on the roof does not drip. > > John Patten > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David James Powell" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question > > > > I guess it does have something to do with the > > heat from our house, but I've seen the same thing > > happening on the roof of our (unattached) > > unheated storage building. Now what would cause > > that? > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > Good question dave. > > > I'd think it would have something to do with > > the heat of the house, heating the roof ever so > > slightly, the melting then occurs. > > > > > > I would like to find out more on a similar > > thing that is happening in Antartica. The Ice > > selfs are melting, but its not from the top, its > > from the bottom. Strange things IMO. > > > > > > Cheers > > > --------------------------------- > > > Simon Angell > > > Canberra, ACT > > > www.canberra-wx.com > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > Proud member of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > -------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: arky dave > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 5:33 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: A Question > > > > > > > > > Holiday Greetings to All: > > > I've another question: How can > > melting take place when the temperature is below > > freezing? I've seen Snow melt off our roof when > > the temps were in the high 20sF. To my > > (unscientific) way of thinking, if it's below > > freezing nothing should be melting. > > > Thanks for your answers. > > > David (In a Cold Holiday Mood) Powell > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Scanned with AVG and NAV for Win2k > > > with the very latest Virus definition files. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > > (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - > > Release Date: 26/11/2002 > > > > > > > -- > > Sent using Voltage Net Webmail > > http://www.voltage.net/ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: A Question part #2 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 12:09:55 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com One other thing- In regard to the ice shelfs melting from the bottom, again there are two effects that could be at work. I don't know about that exact situation, but I would propose that at least one reason could be the very peculiar behavior of ice. Unlike most liquids, the solid form of water is actually less dense than its liquid form. This is what causes ice-bergs to float (for information at STP water is most dense at about 3C). This is caused due to intermolecular polar forces (nothing to do with the earths poles!) However, what this effect does, is that it means that if you increase the pressure, you decrease the freezing temperature. It is this effect which allows ice skaters to move so effortlessly over a rink. The pressure caused by the skaters weight distributed over the small area of the slate blade, causes the ice below the blade to melt. So in effect, the ice skater is skating on a very thin layer of water beneath the blade (which subsequently re-freezes once the pressure has been removed). So what does this have to do with the polar ice caps melting from the bottom? Well I would suggest that part of the reason could be that the huge amount of pressure from the tons ice above, could lower the freezing point for the ice to below its ambient temperature (note ice does not have to be at 0C, it can be WELL bellow) Additionally, heat from radioactive decay at the earths core finds it's way to the surface slowly via conduction. The enormous insulating effect of the ice, could then mean that this heat is sufficient (with the above pressure effect) to melt the base of the ice sheet. Again, I stress that this is what my first guess is behind the reasons. There could be many other effects in place. Cheers James James Holbeach ---------------------------------------- Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering University of Melbourne, Australia ph. +61 3 8344 6652 ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of James Holbeach Sent: Monday, 9 December 2002 10:59 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: A Question It is a good question, and there are multiple answers, depending on the situation. In the case of snow melting off a tin roof two effects are in progress. 1) Melting of snow due to heat losses from the building. 2) radiative heat transfer from the sun to the surface of a darkly coloured roof. It is a fair indication of how well a building is insulated to look at how many icicles form on the eves. More icicles = more heat loss = worse insulation. Icicles form when the water from the melted snow from the roof, encounters the sub zero air temps, and re freezes. Another example is a rock in the snow (or as happened last year, mallee dust colouring the snow). Now the rock, or coloured snow would normally be at the surrounding air temperature. However sunlight (even on a cloudy day) provides radiative heat transfer, which will heat the rock to the surrounding air temperature. This is a pretty obvious phenomenon. Last year, the mallee dust coloured snow melted significantly quicker than the surrounding patches of pure white stuff! What is NOT so obvious, is the question- how does a frost form when the air temperature is +3C???? This is radiative heat transfer the other way around. The ground is warmer than space, so it "radiates" heat to space (at about 3K), cooling it to below the surrounding air temperature, often below zero. I could go onto more about how black-body radiation works, but for the moment I hope that answers your question. James p.s. I don't think water ice sublimation occurs at Standard temperature and pressure. . . . but I'll check James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of twc Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2002 2:40 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question Hi Everyone, As Simon says (no pun intended), it's the heat from the roof or house that's causing the melting to occur. So where it's melting, it is above freezing. The surrounding environment (air temperature) maybe well below freezing, but the roof temperature must be above freezing :) Cheers, Paul Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Patten" To: Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:03 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question > This needs input from a physicist, but a part of the answer could be > sublimation. Ice sublimates at a much colder (-70 Celsius) temperature than > it melts. > > This may be part of the answer to the question "what happened to the water > on Mars" - how could Mars have lost all its water (planetary mass too low > for gravitational containment) when its temperature never rose above > freezing, whereas much smaller bodies, such as comets, remain intact? > > See for example http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0212/05mars/index.html where > the Mars problem is discussed. There have been recent papers in Science. > > What does sublimating ice look like - like a comet's tail. > > Physicists, please correct this if it is incorrect. A simple test is - that > the disappearing snow on the roof does not drip. > > John Patten > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David James Powell" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question > > > > I guess it does have something to do with the > > heat from our house, but I've seen the same thing > > happening on the roof of our (unattached) > > unheated storage building. Now what would cause > > that? > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > Good question dave. > > > I'd think it would have something to do with > > the heat of the house, heating the roof ever so > > slightly, the melting then occurs. > > > > > > I would like to find out more on a similar > > thing that is happening in Antartica. The Ice > > selfs are melting, but its not from the top, its > > from the bottom. Strange things IMO. > > > > > > Cheers > > > --------------------------------- > > > Simon Angell > > > Canberra, ACT > > > www.canberra-wx.com > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > Proud member of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > -------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: arky dave > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 5:33 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: A Question > > > > > > > > > Holiday Greetings to All: > > > I've another question: How can > > melting take place when the temperature is below > > freezing? I've seen Snow melt off our roof when > > the temps were in the high 20sF. To my > > (unscientific) way of thinking, if it's below > > freezing nothing should be melting. > > > Thanks for your answers. > > > David (In a Cold Holiday Mood) Powell > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Scanned with AVG and NAV for Win2k > > > with the very latest Virus definition files. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > > (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - > > Release Date: 26/11/2002 > > > > > > > -- > > Sent using Voltage Net Webmail > > http://www.voltage.net/ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: s355334 at student.uq.edu.au (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 11:37:53 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Leslie Muir Subject: RE: aus-wx: A Question part #2 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Gravity causing friction was another reason that came straight to my mind when reading your reply Les Muir At 11:09 AM 9/12/2002, you wrote: >One other thing- >In regard to the ice shelfs melting from the bottom, again there are two >effects that could be at work. > >I don't know about that exact situation, but I would propose that at >least one reason could be the very peculiar behavior of ice. > >Unlike most liquids, the solid form of water is actually less dense than >its liquid form. This is what causes ice-bergs to float (for information >at STP water is most dense at about 3C). This is caused due to >intermolecular polar forces (nothing to do with the earths poles!) > >However, what this effect does, is that it means that if you increase >the pressure, you decrease the freezing temperature. It is this effect >which allows ice skaters to move so effortlessly over a rink. The >pressure caused by the skaters weight distributed over the small area of >the slate blade, causes the ice below the blade to melt. So in effect, >the ice skater is skating on a very thin layer of water beneath the >blade (which subsequently re-freezes once the pressure has been >removed). > >So what does this have to do with the polar ice caps melting from the >bottom? Well I would suggest that part of the reason could be that the >huge amount of pressure from the tons ice above, could lower the >freezing point for the ice to below its ambient temperature (note ice >does not have to be at 0C, it can be WELL bellow) > >Additionally, heat from radioactive decay at the earths core finds it's >way to the surface slowly via conduction. The enormous insulating effect >of the ice, could then mean that this heat is sufficient (with the above >pressure effect) to melt the base of the ice sheet. > >Again, I stress that this is what my first guess is behind the reasons. >There could be many other effects in place. > > >Cheers > >James > > >James Holbeach >---------------------------------------- >Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering >University of Melbourne, Australia >ph. +61 3 8344 6652 >---------------------------------------- > >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of James >Holbeach >Sent: Monday, 9 December 2002 10:59 AM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: RE: aus-wx: A Question > >It is a good question, and there are multiple answers, depending on the >situation. > >In the case of snow melting off a tin roof two effects are in progress. >1) Melting of snow due to heat losses from the building. 2) radiative >heat transfer from the sun to the surface of a darkly coloured roof. > >It is a fair indication of how well a building is insulated to look at >how many icicles form on the eves. More icicles = more heat loss = worse >insulation. Icicles form when the water from the melted snow from the >roof, encounters the sub zero air temps, and re freezes. > >Another example is a rock in the snow (or as happened last year, mallee >dust colouring the snow). Now the rock, or coloured snow would normally >be at the surrounding air temperature. However sunlight (even on a >cloudy day) provides radiative heat transfer, which will heat the rock >to the surrounding air temperature. This is a pretty obvious phenomenon. >Last year, the mallee dust coloured snow melted significantly quicker >than the surrounding patches of pure white stuff! > >What is NOT so obvious, is the question- how does a frost form when the >air temperature is +3C???? This is radiative heat transfer the other way >around. The ground is warmer than space, so it "radiates" heat to space >(at about 3K), cooling it to below the surrounding air temperature, >often below zero. > >I could go onto more about how black-body radiation works, but for the >moment I hope that answers your question. > >James >p.s. I don't think water ice sublimation occurs at Standard temperature >and pressure. . . . but I'll check >James Holbeach >-------------------------------- >Trapdoor Ski Club >Mt. Hotham, Australia >ph. 0417 553 757 >http://www.trapdoor.com.au >-------------------------------- > >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of twc >Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2002 2:40 PM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question > >Hi Everyone, > As Simon says (no pun intended), it's the heat from the roof or house >that's causing the melting to occur. So where it's melting, it is above >freezing. The surrounding environment (air temperature) maybe well >below >freezing, but the roof temperature must be above freezing :) >Cheers, > Paul Graham > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Patten" >To: >Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:03 AM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question > > > > This needs input from a physicist, but a part of the answer could be > > sublimation. Ice sublimates at a much colder (-70 Celsius) >temperature >than > > it melts. > > > > This may be part of the answer to the question "what happened to the >water > > on Mars" - how could Mars have lost all its water (planetary mass too >low > > for gravitational containment) when its temperature never rose above > > freezing, whereas much smaller bodies, such as comets, remain intact? > > > > See for example http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0212/05mars/index.html >where > > the Mars problem is discussed. There have been recent papers in >Science. > > > > What does sublimating ice look like - like a comet's tail. > > > > Physicists, please correct this if it is incorrect. A simple test is >- >that > > the disappearing snow on the roof does not drip. > > > > John Patten > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David James Powell" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:23 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question > > > > > > > I guess it does have something to do with the > > > heat from our house, but I've seen the same thing > > > happening on the roof of our (unattached) > > > unheated storage building. Now what would cause > > > that? > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > > > > Good question dave. > > > > I'd think it would have something to do with > > > the heat of the house, heating the roof ever so > > > slightly, the melting then occurs. > > > > > > > > I would like to find out more on a similar > > > thing that is happening in Antartica. The Ice > > > selfs are melting, but its not from the top, its > > > from the bottom. Strange things IMO. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Simon Angell > > > > Canberra, ACT > > > > www.canberra-wx.com > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > Proud member of the > > > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > -------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: arky dave > > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 5:33 PM > > > > Subject: aus-wx: A Question > > > > > > > > > > > > Holiday Greetings to All: > > > > I've another question: How can > > > melting take place when the temperature is below > > > freezing? I've seen Snow melt off our roof when > > > the temps were in the high 20sF. To my > > > (unscientific) way of thinking, if it's below > > > freezing nothing should be melting. > > > > Thanks for your answers. > > > > David (In a Cold Holiday Mood) Powell > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > Scanned with AVG and NAV for Win2k > > > > with the very latest Virus definition files. > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > > > (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - > > > Release Date: 26/11/2002 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sent using Voltage Net Webmail > > > http://www.voltage.net/ > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > > message. > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: A Question part #3 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 12:45:22 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sublimation of ice only occurs below the triple point on H2O's Phase diagram (see below) http://www.sbu.ac.uk/water/phase.html The triple point of a substance, is the point where all three phases exist simultaneously. For water it occurs at a pressure of about 600Pa, and a temperature of 0.0098C . The triple point is often used in calibration of temperature devices. Anyway, sublimation of ice will not occur unless the pressure is below about 600Pa. Considering that standard air pressure is 101,325Pa, it is unlikely to occur on earth! On the diagram in the above link, sublimation occurs as you cross the Solid/Vapour line. Dry ice (solid carbon dioxide) is a great example of sublimation in process! Cheers James James Holbeach ---------------------------------------- Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering University of Melbourne, Australia ph. +61 3 8344 6652 ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of James Holbeach Sent: Monday, 9 December 2002 12:10 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: A Question part #2 One other thing- In regard to the ice shelfs melting from the bottom, again there are two effects that could be at work. I don't know about that exact situation, but I would propose that at least one reason could be the very peculiar behavior of ice. Unlike most liquids, the solid form of water is actually less dense than its liquid form. This is what causes ice-bergs to float (for information at STP water is most dense at about 3C). This is caused due to intermolecular polar forces (nothing to do with the earths poles!) However, what this effect does, is that it means that if you increase the pressure, you decrease the freezing temperature. It is this effect which allows ice skaters to move so effortlessly over a rink. The pressure caused by the skaters weight distributed over the small area of the slate blade, causes the ice below the blade to melt. So in effect, the ice skater is skating on a very thin layer of water beneath the blade (which subsequently re-freezes once the pressure has been removed). So what does this have to do with the polar ice caps melting from the bottom? Well I would suggest that part of the reason could be that the huge amount of pressure from the tons ice above, could lower the freezing point for the ice to below its ambient temperature (note ice does not have to be at 0C, it can be WELL bellow) Additionally, heat from radioactive decay at the earths core finds it's way to the surface slowly via conduction. The enormous insulating effect of the ice, could then mean that this heat is sufficient (with the above pressure effect) to melt the base of the ice sheet. Again, I stress that this is what my first guess is behind the reasons. There could be many other effects in place. Cheers James James Holbeach ---------------------------------------- Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering University of Melbourne, Australia ph. +61 3 8344 6652 ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of James Holbeach Sent: Monday, 9 December 2002 10:59 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: A Question It is a good question, and there are multiple answers, depending on the situation. In the case of snow melting off a tin roof two effects are in progress. 1) Melting of snow due to heat losses from the building. 2) radiative heat transfer from the sun to the surface of a darkly coloured roof. It is a fair indication of how well a building is insulated to look at how many icicles form on the eves. More icicles = more heat loss = worse insulation. Icicles form when the water from the melted snow from the roof, encounters the sub zero air temps, and re freezes. Another example is a rock in the snow (or as happened last year, mallee dust colouring the snow). Now the rock, or coloured snow would normally be at the surrounding air temperature. However sunlight (even on a cloudy day) provides radiative heat transfer, which will heat the rock to the surrounding air temperature. This is a pretty obvious phenomenon. Last year, the mallee dust coloured snow melted significantly quicker than the surrounding patches of pure white stuff! What is NOT so obvious, is the question- how does a frost form when the air temperature is +3C???? This is radiative heat transfer the other way around. The ground is warmer than space, so it "radiates" heat to space (at about 3K), cooling it to below the surrounding air temperature, often below zero. I could go onto more about how black-body radiation works, but for the moment I hope that answers your question. James p.s. I don't think water ice sublimation occurs at Standard temperature and pressure. . . . but I'll check James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of twc Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2002 2:40 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question Hi Everyone, As Simon says (no pun intended), it's the heat from the roof or house that's causing the melting to occur. So where it's melting, it is above freezing. The surrounding environment (air temperature) maybe well below freezing, but the roof temperature must be above freezing :) Cheers, Paul Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Patten" To: Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:03 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question > This needs input from a physicist, but a part of the answer could be > sublimation. Ice sublimates at a much colder (-70 Celsius) temperature than > it melts. > > This may be part of the answer to the question "what happened to the water > on Mars" - how could Mars have lost all its water (planetary mass too low > for gravitational containment) when its temperature never rose above > freezing, whereas much smaller bodies, such as comets, remain intact? > > See for example http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0212/05mars/index.html where > the Mars problem is discussed. There have been recent papers in Science. > > What does sublimating ice look like - like a comet's tail. > > Physicists, please correct this if it is incorrect. A simple test is - that > the disappearing snow on the roof does not drip. > > John Patten > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David James Powell" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Question > > > > I guess it does have something to do with the > > heat from our house, but I've seen the same thing > > happening on the roof of our (unattached) > > unheated storage building. Now what would cause > > that? > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > Good question dave. > > > I'd think it would have something to do with > > the heat of the house, heating the roof ever so > > slightly, the melting then occurs. > > > > > > I would like to find out more on a similar > > thing that is happening in Antartica. The Ice > > selfs are melting, but its not from the top, its > > from the bottom. Strange things IMO. > > > > > > Cheers > > > --------------------------------- > > > Simon Angell > > > Canberra, ACT > > > www.canberra-wx.com > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > Proud member of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > -------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: arky dave > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 5:33 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: A Question > > > > > > > > > Holiday Greetings to All: > > > I've another question: How can > > melting take place when the temperature is below > > freezing? I've seen Snow melt off our roof when > > the temps were in the high 20sF. To my > > (unscientific) way of thinking, if it's below > > freezing nothing should be melting. > > > Thanks for your answers. > > > David (In a Cold Holiday Mood) Powell > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Scanned with AVG and NAV for Win2k > > > with the very latest Virus definition files. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > > (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - > > Release Date: 26/11/2002 > > > > > > > -- > > Sent using Voltage Net Webmail > > http://www.voltage.net/ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "peter tristram" To: Subject: aus-wx: Hail Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:05:03 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com According to the 'local' news reports up Coffs way, Port Macquarie got hammered by a very severe storm yesterday, 2nd in 2 weeks, with high lateral winds and a carpeting of hail to golf ball size. A cell also screamed down the Bellinger Valley too, dumping hail all the way, with the worst damage from Fernmount to Mylestom. I watched it pass from Bonville where I work and the cold gusts from the south indicated ice in the air not far away. The storm missed my vantage point by less than 5km but my 19 yr old son informed me that Repton (my place about 6km away) had enough hail to carpet the lawn white and block all of the gutters - and I missed it! He took some photos. 26mm recorded here but there was 75mm and up to 15cm of hail all over the river flats at Raleigh only 3km further. I had a look this afternoon and evidence was obvious especially a couple of corn paddocks that had been reduced to stubs. The camphorlaurels took a hammering (a local weed tree). Only 6mm today but hopefully a lot more when/if the low develops as forecast. Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 25/11/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Test message Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:24:26 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Haven't had anything from the list for a while. So this is a test message only.
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
From: "John Graham" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Ballina Storm 10/12 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:48:41 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com What a ripper of a storm this arvo here.....thought we'd missed it as a shelf cloud moved to the south of us, so I went inside to check the radar (pink & yellow heading towards here), when my nephew shouted holy f**k, come out here....went outside to be greeted by another(?) shelf cloud (which was a pinky/tan colour) & a nasty green tinge behind it. I turned to Brendan (my son), told him to get my camera, looked around at the storm & told him instead to get the car keys as the car was outside...it was coming towards here *that* fast.....got the shed door down when the wind hit & the power went out.....got sandblasted when I went from the shed to the house.... the highest gust here at my place was 88km/h, bent my cb antenna & the mast to my scanner antenna.....grrrrrrrrr After it had finished I went out to lok at the damage around town & this is what I found..... Shaws Bay C/Park ...old kiosk windows blown in, 1 van overturned, 1 annex destroyed East Ballina...House lost roof, landed in vacant block next door River St....2 businesses lost roofs, landed in RSL carpark Fire Station lost some tiles in 2 places Flats on the cnr of Swift & Martin Sts lost the roof plus shitloads of trees down everywhere I was lucky, no damage to my house, but next door lost tiles & had a front window blown in... did take some pic's, will try to get them developed in the next couple of days Cheer's John from Ballina ____________________________________________________________ John Graham gorzzz at d2.net.au or gorzzz at yahoo.com Icq 25440353 Member of The Australian Severe Weather Assoc. ASWA Homepage http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ Snail Mail: P.O. Box 1072 Ballina 2478 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 00:26:38 +1000 To: aussie-weather-list From: Carl Smith Subject: aus-wx: SE Qld storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. Here on the central Gold Coast, you could see it building up to the SW at 3pm, and by 4pm a wall of storm was bearing down on us spitting lightning everywhere, complete with greenish hail shaft below. By 4:15pm lightning was hitting all around with frequent flangs, the greenish hail shaft had faded to grey, and soon we were getting pounded by winds I estimated to be at around 100 km/hr, stripping loose bark and small branches off the trees and throwing them around the place, then torrential rain - all hell was breaking loose around us and the mains power had gone down by 4:30pm - fortunately, the hail had missed us but some other parts of the Gold Coast did cop it. The really intense phase only lasted perhaps another 15 minutes, however lightning, thunder, and rain continued until well after dark. Power was restored at about 10:30 pm. News reports spoke of band of storms with severe cells from Evans Head in NSW to the Wide Bay region in Qld, up to 120,000 homes without power in SE Qld at it's peak, and hundreds of homes damaged, with Ballina, the central Gold Coast, and Gympie, apparently copping the worst of it. A Gold Coast SES person on the news said they had answered over 50 calls for trees on roofs and other damage, and expect to spend the next 2 days cleaning up. Regards, Carl. -- For links to current tropical cyclone information: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Third" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE Qld storms Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 05:46:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here in my Petrie front yard we managed to get 37mm out of the storm (much less than I expected given the deluge I drove through when leaving the city (Brisbane) at about 5pm last night. Our SES unit - Pine Rivers SES (I am the Ops officer there) ended up with only 4 jobs. 3 of these were at Samford and one of these involved a house that was damaged to the point that no temporary repairs were undertaken. The other 2 at Samford were in a close vicinity to this first house and crews reported a large number of trees down in that particular area. The worst of it was that last night was meant to be our SES Christmas party but it was not to be !! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Smith" To: "aussie-weather-list" Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:26 AM Subject: aus-wx: SE Qld storms > Hi All. > > Here on the central Gold Coast, you could see it building up to the > SW at 3pm, and by 4pm a wall of storm was bearing down on us spitting > lightning everywhere, complete with greenish hail shaft below. > > By 4:15pm lightning was hitting all around with frequent flangs, the > greenish hail shaft had faded to grey, and soon we were getting > pounded by winds I estimated to be at around 100 km/hr, stripping > loose bark and small branches off the trees and throwing them around > the place, then torrential rain - all hell was breaking loose around > us and the mains power had gone down by 4:30pm - fortunately, the > hail had missed us but some other parts of the Gold Coast did cop it. > The really intense phase only lasted perhaps another 15 minutes, > however lightning, thunder, and rain continued until well after dark. > > Power was restored at about 10:30 pm. > > News reports spoke of band of storms with severe cells from Evans > Head in NSW to the Wide Bay region in Qld, up to 120,000 homes > without power in SE Qld at it's peak, and hundreds of homes damaged, > with Ballina, the central Gold Coast, and Gympie, apparently copping > the worst of it. A Gold Coast SES person on the news said they had > answered over 50 calls for trees on roofs and other damage, and > expect to spend the next 2 days cleaning up. > > Regards, > Carl. > > -- > For links to current tropical cyclone information: > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE Qld storms Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:03:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com here in brisbane qld I recorded at the hight of the storm in hours 10 000 strikes ,this included cloud to ground and cloud to cloud the whole storm produced over 30 000 strikes Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Smith" To: "aussie-weather-list" Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:26 AM Subject: aus-wx: SE Qld storms > Hi All. > > Here on the central Gold Coast, you could see it building up to the > SW at 3pm, and by 4pm a wall of storm was bearing down on us spitting > lightning everywhere, complete with greenish hail shaft below. > > By 4:15pm lightning was hitting all around with frequent flangs, the > greenish hail shaft had faded to grey, and soon we were getting > pounded by winds I estimated to be at around 100 km/hr, stripping > loose bark and small branches off the trees and throwing them around > the place, then torrential rain - all hell was breaking loose around > us and the mains power had gone down by 4:30pm - fortunately, the > hail had missed us but some other parts of the Gold Coast did cop it. > The really intense phase only lasted perhaps another 15 minutes, > however lightning, thunder, and rain continued until well after dark. > > Power was restored at about 10:30 pm. > > News reports spoke of band of storms with severe cells from Evans > Head in NSW to the Wide Bay region in Qld, up to 120,000 homes > without power in SE Qld at it's peak, and hundreds of homes damaged, > with Ballina, the central Gold Coast, and Gympie, apparently copping > the worst of it. A Gold Coast SES person on the news said they had > answered over 50 calls for trees on roofs and other damage, and > expect to spend the next 2 days cleaning up. > > Regards, > Carl. > > -- > For links to current tropical cyclone information: > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.28.69.187] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hail Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:34:23 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2002 21:34:24.0316 (UTC) FILETIME=[E89EE7C0:01C2A093] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I went for a quick drive down in the Bonvile area yesterday. It seemed to me by the radar that the most damage may have occured through there, but as you would imagine, I found nothing! It seems that I should've gone a bit further south! Ah well! David Sercombe Coffs Harbour NE NSW From: "peter tristram" Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com To: Subject: aus-wx: Hail Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:05:03 +1100 According to the 'local' news reports up Coffs way, Port Macquarie got hammered by a very severe storm yesterday, 2nd in 2 weeks, with high lateral winds and a carpeting of hail to golf ball size. A cell also screamed down the Bellinger Valley too, dumping hail all the way, with the worst damage from Fernmount to Mylestom. I watched it pass from Bonville where I work and the cold gusts from the south indicated ice in the air not far away. The storm missed my vantage point by less than 5km but my 19 yr old son informed me that Repton (my place about 6km away) had enough hail to carpet the lawn white and block all of the gutters - and I missed it! He took some photos. 26mm recorded here but there was 75mm and up to 15cm of hail all over the river flats at Raleigh only 3km further. I had a look this afternoon and evidence was obvious especially a couple of corn paddocks that had been reduced to stubs. The camphorlaurels took a hammering (a local weed tree). Only 6mm today but hopefully a lot more when/if the low develops as forecast. Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 25/11/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: aus-wx: Mona Vale NSW Rain At Last Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 11:05:26 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Dear All,
 
I don't know why no-one else is saying anything about Sydney's weather.  Where are you all?
 
Here at Mona Vale we have had a grand total of 87.5 mm since sometime early in the morning on the 10th.
 
11 mm to 9am on 10th December
76.5 mm to 9am on 11th December.
 
This fall of 87.5m is greater than every month this years' rainfall with the exception of February and March.
 
Judy Mayo
X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:56:32 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ballina Storm 10/12 and tornado Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com btw - a tornado was photographed by Dave Ellem at Wollongbar shortly before the storm headed into Ballina: http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2002/docs/200212-02.htm cheers, Michael At 11:48 PM 10/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >What a ripper of a storm this arvo here.....thought we'd missed it as a >shelf cloud moved to the south of us, so I went inside to check the radar >(pink & yellow heading towards here), when my nephew shouted holy f**k, come >out here....went outside to be greeted by another(?) shelf cloud (which was >a pinky/tan colour) & a nasty green tinge behind it. I turned to Brendan (my >son), told him to get my camera, looked around at the storm & told him >instead to get the car keys as the car was outside...it was coming towards >here *that* fast.....got the shed door down when the wind hit & the power >went out.....got sandblasted when I went from the shed to the house.... >the highest gust here at my place was 88km/h, bent my cb antenna & the mast >to my scanner antenna.....grrrrrrrrr >After it had finished I went out to lok at the damage around town & this is >what I found..... >Shaws Bay C/Park ...old kiosk windows blown in, 1 van overturned, 1 annex >destroyed >East Ballina...House lost roof, landed in vacant block next door >River St....2 businesses lost roofs, landed in RSL carpark >Fire Station lost some tiles in 2 places >Flats on the cnr of Swift & Martin Sts lost the roof >plus shitloads of trees down everywhere >I was lucky, no damage to my house, but next door lost tiles & had a front >window blown in... >did take some pic's, will try to get them developed in the next couple of >days >Cheer's >John from Ballina =================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia ASWA president: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ =================================================================== X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:15:10 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale NSW Rain At Last Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Judy and Adam, I got 41.2mm till 9am this morning and 2.6mm yesterday. Not bad actually. Jimmy Deguara At 11:05 AM 11/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Dear All, > >I don't know why no-one else is saying anything about Sydney's >weather. Where are you all? > >Here at Mona Vale we have had a grand total of 87.5 mm since sometime >early in the morning on the 10th. > >11 mm to 9am on 10th December >76.5 mm to 9am on 11th December. > >This fall of 87.5m is greater than every month this years' rainfall with >the exception of February and March. > >Judy Mayo +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: Freezing fog Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 01:12:13 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Holiday Greetings to All:
      Parts of Arkansas are under a Freezing Fog Advisory for tonight.(Earlier tonight, the visibility at the Mena airport was down to 1/4 Mile!).
      I was wondering: Does Australia get very much freezing fog?
This episode of fogginess is due to early A.M. light rain and late P.M. clearing of cloudcover.(which is when we mainly get fog).
Well, keep cool & See Ya'll later!!!
Yours David(fogbound) Powell
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:38:32 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Freezing fog X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I drove a bus though freezing fog a few times, but the most memorable was between Cooma and Nimmittabel in New South Wales in the early seventies: The fog was a thick pea-souper as we left Cooma around 07:00 with the air temperature at -4C. We had to drive slowly because the fog remained very thick all the way. The bus started handling very strangely and the headlights even on high beam were very short on the road. Eventually there was no front suspension at all so every slight bump in the road was jarring straight through to the drivers seat. I pulled up near Nimmitabel and got out to investigate. The front of the bus was entirely coated with a massive great plate of ice which was heavy enough to completely bottom out the leaf springs and squash out the front tyres so that they looked nearly flat. I had to use a jemmy to break it up and lever it off and the ice on the bottom half of the front panel of the bus was 6 or 7 cm thick. So yes, Australia does get freezing fog from time to time in the high country. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "arky dave" To: Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 01:12:13 -0600 Subject: aus-wx: Freezing fog > Holiday Greetings to All: > Parts of Arkansas are under a Freezing Fog Advisory for > tonight.(Earlier tonight, the visibility at the Mena airport was down > to 1/4 Mile!). > I was wondering: Does Australia get very much freezing fog? > This episode of fogginess is due to early A.M. light rain and late P.M. > clearing of cloudcover.(which is when we mainly get fog). > Well, keep cool & See Ya'll later!!! > Yours David(fogbound) Powell > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Freezing fog To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:16:28 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > I drove a bus though freezing fog a few times, but the most memorable > was between Cooma and Nimmittabel in New South Wales in the early > seventies: The fog was a thick pea-souper as we left Cooma around 07:00 > with the air temperature at -4C. We had to drive slowly because the fog > remained very thick all the way. The bus started handling very > strangely and the headlights even on high beam were very short on the > road. Eventually there was no front suspension at all so every slight > bump in the road was jarring straight through to the drivers seat. I > pulled up near Nimmitabel and got out to investigate. The front of the > bus was entirely coated with a massive great plate of ice which was > heavy enough to completely bottom out the leaf springs and squash out > the front tyres so that they looked nearly flat. I had to use a jemmy > to break it up and lever it off and the ice on the bottom half of the > front panel of the bus was 6 or 7 cm thick. > So yes, Australia does get freezing fog from time to time in the high > country. > Not just in the really high country, either - inland Victoria and southern NSW sees it a bit. It wasn't unusual, running in Canberra in fog on winter mornings, for ice to build up on my hair over the course of an hour or so (particularly if I was dropping down from the relatively high ground where I lived into the colder valleys). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Freezing fog Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:29:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yep blair, FZFG is a common winter occurence here, just its not as extreme of some of the US versions...we get -4C at best, places in the US this past week were -20C with Fog... Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blair Trewin" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 8:16 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Freezing fog > > > > I drove a bus though freezing fog a few times, but the most memorable > > was between Cooma and Nimmittabel in New South Wales in the early > > seventies: The fog was a thick pea-souper as we left Cooma around 07:00 > > with the air temperature at -4C. We had to drive slowly because the fog > > remained very thick all the way. The bus started handling very > > strangely and the headlights even on high beam were very short on the > > road. Eventually there was no front suspension at all so every slight > > bump in the road was jarring straight through to the drivers seat. I > > pulled up near Nimmitabel and got out to investigate. The front of the > > bus was entirely coated with a massive great plate of ice which was > > heavy enough to completely bottom out the leaf springs and squash out > > the front tyres so that they looked nearly flat. I had to use a jemmy > > to break it up and lever it off and the ice on the bottom half of the > > front panel of the bus was 6 or 7 cm thick. > > So yes, Australia does get freezing fog from time to time in the high > > country. > > > > Not just in the really high country, either - inland Victoria and > southern NSW sees it a bit. > > It wasn't unusual, running in Canberra in fog on winter mornings, > for ice to build up on my hair over the course of an hour or so > (particularly if I was dropping down from the relatively high ground > where I lived into the colder valleys). > > Blair > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:40:37 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anyone else having trouble getting onto Austnet and the #weather IRC channel? Seems the whole network's disappeared, and nothing's resolving (someone didn't pay domain name rego? :) ). 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:19:36 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Tony, try /server 63.121.24.250 From Nathan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:10 PM Subject: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather > Anyone else having trouble getting onto Austnet and the #weather IRC > channel? Seems the whole network's disappeared, and nothing's resolving > (someone didn't pay domain name rego? :) ). > > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vkradio.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:56:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Have had trouble all day tony, Austnet's US servers were attacked yesterday, perhaps its spread to all servers. Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:40 PM Subject: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather > Anyone else having trouble getting onto Austnet and the #weather IRC > channel? Seems the whole network's disappeared, and nothing's resolving > (someone didn't pay domain name rego? :) ). > > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vkradio.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 22:16:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Natho! Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather > Tony, > > try /server 63.121.24.250 > > >From Nathan. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:10 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather > > > > Anyone else having trouble getting onto Austnet and the #weather IRC > > channel? Seems the whole network's disappeared, and nothing's resolving > > (someone didn't pay domain name rego? :) ). > > > > > > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > > http://vkradio.com > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: Report on Tuesday's NSW/Qld weather on AWN Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 11:27:03 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've written up yesterday's fascinating weather in NSW and Qld. Quirindi and Murrurundi both broke December rainfall records that have stood for 116 and 128 years respectively. Follow the link for 10 December on the main page. Also, for the record hounds, temperature records fell somewhere in the country every day from 2 to 9 December, with 7 December producing a crop of record low minima in NSW. Follow the Weather News Index link, then click on each date. The pages for 10 and 11 December have the longest rainlists in around 6 months! Laurier Williams Australian Weather News http://www.australianweathernews.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie-Wx" Subject: aus-wx: New World weather website. Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 22:53:21 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all, came across this today....
 
Media Release
The Hon Dr Sharman Stone
Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for the Environment and Heritage
Federal Member for Murray
 
10 December 2002
 
Weather Site Goes Global
 
Ever wondered what the weather was like in that favourite town overseas? Want to know what the temperature is back home when you are abroad? Well now you can easily find out.
 
The World Meteorological Organization is establishing a one-stop shop web site for official weather information supplied by the National Meteorological Services of over 110 countries.
 
Dr Sharman Stone, the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for the Environment and Heritage said, "The Australian Bureau of Meteorology would be a major contributor to the web site - providing up-to-the-minute Australian climate information and forecasts up to 4 days ahead for 157 Australian cities and towns".
 
The World Meteorological Organization web site containing the Australian and overseas climate and weather information can be found at http:// www.worldweather.org. This web site also provides links to the web sites of the world's other National Meteorological Services.
 
"In these times of drought and bushfires, global families and investments, easy-to-access information about the world's weather is keenly sought and probably more useful than ever" Dr Stone said.
 
Have looked at the site briefly and so far looks good.

Cheers
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Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:14:38 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:19 PM 11/12/2002 +1030, you wrote: >/server 63.121.24.250 Ta, I'll give it a whirl 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:15:08 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:56 PM 11/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Have had trouble all day tony, >Austnet's US servers were attacked yesterday, perhaps its spread to all >servers. Seems like someone's taken out their DNS servers. :( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:04:41 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hi tony,
 
i take it your talking about a hack attack.
 
richard
 
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Date: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 11:01:09 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather
 
At 09:56 PM 11/12/2002 +1100, you wrote:

>Have had trouble all day tony,
>Austnet's US servers were attacked yesterday, perhaps its spread to all
>servers.

Seems like someone's taken out their DNS servers. :(

73 de Tony, VK3JED
http://vkradio.com

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Embedded Content: IMSTP26.gif: 00000001,64b286dd,00000000,00000000 From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: SE Qld storms Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 22:58:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, not a bad event at all with a truely humungous squall line stretching from Coff's all the way past Taroom almost in central QLD ~ some 650+ kms! 63mm total at Mt. Crosby for the 24 hours to midnight, but that includes 15mm or so of drizzle in the early morning from 1:00am as a left over from the previous day's storms, although we missed out entirely on the main action from this on the previous evening while Amberley managed 75mm. I actually could here the roar from this storm as it passed just 5km to the South. But 63mm is the best single day's rainfall here in almost 2 years, since Feb 3 2001 to be precise. We also missed out on any severe winds with the squall line, although there was plenty of lightning around. Similar story for Sumner, where I estimate about 75mm came down in an hour. John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of stephen galowski Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 7:04 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE Qld storms here in brisbane qld I recorded at the hight of the storm in hours 10 000 strikes ,this included cloud to ground and cloud to cloud the whole storm produced over 30 000 strikes Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Smith" To: "aussie-weather-list" Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:26 AM Subject: aus-wx: SE Qld storms > Hi All. > > Here on the central Gold Coast, you could see it building up to the > SW at 3pm, and by 4pm a wall of storm was bearing down on us spitting > lightning everywhere, complete with greenish hail shaft below. > > By 4:15pm lightning was hitting all around with frequent flangs, the > greenish hail shaft had faded to grey, and soon we were getting > pounded by winds I estimated to be at around 100 km/hr, stripping > loose bark and small branches off the trees and throwing them around > the place, then torrential rain - all hell was breaking loose around > us and the mains power had gone down by 4:30pm - fortunately, the > hail had missed us but some other parts of the Gold Coast did cop it. > The really intense phase only lasted perhaps another 15 minutes, > however lightning, thunder, and rain continued until well after dark. > > Power was restored at about 10:30 pm. > > News reports spoke of band of storms with severe cells from Evans > Head in NSW to the Wide Bay region in Qld, up to 120,000 homes > without power in SE Qld at it's peak, and hundreds of homes damaged, > with Ballina, the central Gold Coast, and Gympie, apparently copping > the worst of it. A Gold Coast SES person on the news said they had > answered over 50 calls for trees on roofs and other damage, and > expect to spend the next 2 days cleaning up. > > Regards, > Carl. > > -- > For links to current tropical cyclone information: > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 2002-10-03 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.138.240.246] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Freezing fog Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:01:50 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2002 23:01:51.0040 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A533400:01C2A169] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dave, Saw on the Tv News that much of the East and Northeast US had snow and freezing rain did you get it down there? I have only seen one freezing fog event and that was at Armidale (3,360 feet) in Northern New South Wales in July 1979. We had a -5 degrees (C)clear sky around dawn then a fog drifted across the weather station site. Ice formed on the guy wires of the Aneometer Mast, on the Screen louvres and trees, powerlines etc.Only lasted a few hours as it melted with clearance of the fog. We have never had one in Canberra (1,920 feet) since I came here in 1981. I suspect they only occur regularly in the Snowy Mountains Alpine area but others might have other information on its occurance in Australia. Gavin SSWW Canberra ACT >From: "arky dave" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: Freezing fog >Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 01:12:13 -0600 > >Holiday Greetings to All: > Parts of Arkansas are under a Freezing Fog Advisory for >tonight.(Earlier tonight, the visibility at the Mena airport was down to >1/4 Mile!). > I was wondering: Does Australia get very much freezing fog? >This episode of fogginess is due to early A.M. light rain and late P.M. >clearing of cloudcover.(which is when we mainly get fog). >Well, keep cool & See Ya'll later!!! >Yours David(fogbound) Powell _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:31:20 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here in Hong Kong yesterday we received an alert that the servers of Australian ISPs had severe DNS-related problems. I think Bigpond and Telstra were named and the implication was that many others may be involved. We were advised to keep trying if e-mails were returned or if we couldn't reach web sites. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:15:08 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather > At 09:56 PM 11/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: > > >Have had trouble all day tony, > >Austnet's US servers were attacked yesterday, perhaps its spread to > all > >servers. > > Seems like someone's taken out their DNS servers. :( > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vkradio.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: What is allowed on this list Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:42:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. I realise my question is sort of a giveaway but what is allowed on this list? Is weather related software a possible discussion? Regards (cowering under keyboard), Peter -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: What is allowed on this list Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 02:03:15 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Don't see why not. It's been talked about before. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Peter May > Sent: Thursday, 12 December, 2002 01:42 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: What is allowed on this list > > > Hi all. > > I realise my question is sort of a giveaway but what is allowed on this > list? Is weather related software a possible discussion? > > > Regards (cowering under keyboard), Peter > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: What is allowed on this list Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:05:11 +1100 Organization: The Weather Co. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Peter, "Weather related" was the key phrase there. Fire away! Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Peter May Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 12:42 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: What is allowed on this list Hi all. I realise my question is sort of a giveaway but what is allowed on this list? Is weather related software a possible discussion? Regards (cowering under keyboard), Peter -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: What is allowed on this list Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:54:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well Ok. I am looking for someone that has a wm918 type weather station? I would like to contact them offlist as I am putting together some software and would like to have someone try it for me... I am not going to say it is better, worse or anything it simply does what I need it to do. However it does comparisons between 2 stations and I need someone else I can use that would like to help me out.... Regards, Peter -----Original Message----- From: Laurier Williams [mailto:wbc at ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 1:03 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: What is allowed on this list Don't see why not. It's been talked about before. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Peter May > Sent: Thursday, 12 December, 2002 01:42 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: What is allowed on this list > > > Hi all. > > I realise my question is sort of a giveaway but what is allowed on this > list? Is weather related software a possible discussion? > > > Regards (cowering under keyboard), Peter > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David James Powell" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Freezing fog X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.00 X-IPAddress: 208.189.4.78 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 00:28:16 -0600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'Day Gavin: The freezing fog was for parts of Northern Arkansas. Luckily, here, the fog actually stabilized the temp at 38F(3.3C). The snow did not make it this far south. Freezing fog advisories are not very common for us. We've a chance of morning snowflurries/rain for Friday morning. Little Rock, Ar did have a Trace of snow on Tuesday-tying the record amount for the date. This is the time of year when we start getting more Pacific cold fronts which move on a more southerly storm track--which does enhance our Snow chances (also, unfortunately enhancing our possibility of freezing rain/ice storm). Happy Holidays to you! Yours David Powell > Dave, > Saw on the Tv News that much of the East and Northeast US had snow and > freezing rain did you get it down there? > I have only seen one freezing fog event and that was at Armidale (3,360 > feet) in Northern New South Wales in July 1979. We had a -5 degrees (C)clear > sky around dawn then a fog drifted across the weather station site. Ice > formed on the guy wires of the Aneometer Mast, on the Screen louvres and > trees, powerlines etc.Only lasted a few hours as it melted with clearance of > the fog. We have never had one in Canberra (1,920 feet) since I came here in > 1981. I suspect they only occur regularly in the Snowy Mountains Alpine area > but others might have other information on its occurance in Australia. > Gavin > SSWW Canberra ACT > > > > > > > >From: "arky dave" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: > >Subject: aus-wx: Freezing fog > >Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 01:12:13 -0600 > > > >Holiday Greetings to All: > > Parts of Arkansas are under a Freezing Fog Advisory for > >tonight.(Earlier tonight, the visibility at the Mena airport was down to > >1/4 Mile!). > > I was wondering: Does Australia get very much freezing fog? > >This episode of fogginess is due to early A.M. light rain and late P.M. > >clearing of cloudcover.(which is when we mainly get fog). > >Well, keep cool & See Ya'll later!!! > >Yours David(fogbound) Powell > > > __________________________________________________ _______________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------ ------------------------ > > > -- Sent using Voltage Net Webmail http://www.voltage.net/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: ASWA Calenders Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:46:29 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-106.6, required 5, AWL, BALANCE_FOR_LONG, PGP_SIGNATURE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, UPPERCASE_25_50, USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_KMAIL, USER_IN_WHITELIST, X_NOT_PRESENT) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Is there going to be an ASWA Calendar for 2003? Thanks, David - -- If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day. If you teach them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9+D7VZOfFgbBAbXARAmK6AJ4xTMTKSP55syGpgGPivCIGrvv20ACfV8D9 f2e7XYdYXWmOLZkJMbYB7tA= =beo/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:12:55 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 11:04 PM 11/12/2002 +1030, you wrote: >hi tony, > >i take it your talking about a hack attack. It's a possibility. Either that or Austnet's been slack in paying their domain name rego fees... These days, a DoS attack is the more likely one, as script kiddies get into pissing contests over who can do the most damage. :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:14:11 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: What is allowed on this list Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:42 PM 12/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hi all. > >I realise my question is sort of a giveaway but what is allowed on this >list? Is weather related software a possible discussion? I can't see why not. I run a couple of pieces of weather related software that were mentioned here, so it's been of benefit to me, at least. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 19:27:43 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It was a denial of service attack and a very big one, knocked most of the linked servers offline hance us not being able to either resolve a dns, or anything else. I was in touch with Brendan, the director of my isp and he confirmed it as he uses austnet also, nothing wrong with the outside links or routers here in .au it was purely US based. Script kiddies.. ppft they should come see me and Brendan someday and learn a new trick or few. *Dale* +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 21:24:01 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:27 PM 12/12/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Script kiddies.. ppft they should come see me and Brendan someday and learn >a new trick or few. Like how to nurse a broken jaw? ;-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.228.5] From: "Ben Jerrems" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Austnet and #weather Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 23:17:46 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2002 12:17:46.0690 (UTC) FILETIME=[7AE91A20:01C2A1D8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

yawn!!!




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From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: North Sydney Rain Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:29:10 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I recorded 82mm over the last few days at my home between Chatswood West &
North Ryde in Sydney's Northern Suburbs.
Finally the parks & gardens are looking greener than they have for a very
long time!


Damian
'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html
X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 00:20:26 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi guys, We at www.thunderbolttours.com have finally been able to get together some stills of the first tour chase. I am very pleased with the efforts David has put in. Check out: http://www.thunderbolttours.com/index.html or more directly http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_1_02.html We were only able to chase for just over a week and were quite fortunate that the weather co-operated. My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_v.jpg You can see the striations and the corkscrew effect within the updraught from under the storm - like a spiral staircase - one of the first times I have seen such a structure in Australia. There is even the classic vault region evident - textbook LP Supercell. This is usually associated with the US. Please note these are video stills but they are good quality. Please enjoy. Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 00:39:07 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_v.jp g FWOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(more to come) Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 12:20 AM Subject: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > Hi guys, > > We at www.thunderbolttours.com have finally been able to get together some > stills of the first tour chase. I am very pleased with the efforts David > has put in. > > Check out: > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/index.html > > or more directly > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_1_02.html > > We were only able to chase for just over a week and were quite fortunate > that the weather co-operated. > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_v.jp g > > You can see the striations and the corkscrew effect within the updraught > from under the storm - like a spiral staircase - one of the first times I > have seen such a structure in Australia. There is even the classic vault > region evident - textbook LP Supercell. This is usually associated with the US. > > Please note these are video stills but they are good quality. > > Please enjoy. > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 00:47:24 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I Remember this day, but was working from 3pm, so missed the best stuff, Infact only scored 3 rumbles of thunder at my location from it. This Storm tracker animation shows the cells that did develop in the SE that day. http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/anim-st-26nov.gif Who'd thought a supercell was on my door step that very afternoon, STUPID BLOODY WORK!!!!!!!! Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 12:20 AM Subject: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > Hi guys, > > We at www.thunderbolttours.com have finally been able to get together some > stills of the first tour chase. I am very pleased with the efforts David > has put in. > > Check out: > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/index.html > > or more directly > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_1_02.html > > We were only able to chase for just over a week and were quite fortunate > that the weather co-operated. > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_v.jp g > > You can see the striations and the corkscrew effect within the updraught > from under the storm - like a spiral staircase - one of the first times I > have seen such a structure in Australia. There is even the classic vault > region evident - textbook LP Supercell. This is usually associated with the US. > > Please note these are video stills but they are good quality. > > Please enjoy. > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 00:57:19 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:20 AM 14/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hi guys, > >We at www.thunderbolttours.com have finally been able to get together some >stills of the first tour chase. I am very pleased with the efforts David >has put in. Nice work! I'm just hoping for some WX around Melbourne. Gotta take my new piece of equipment out into the field - Finally got a decent digital camera! :) At this stage, I'd even be happy to christen it with a few sunsets, if the storms aren't going to play ball... :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Fearby" To: Subject: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 01:01:57 +1100 Organization: Fearby.com Software X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) Up close over a Super Cell at 40,000 ft http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm s-in-flight-02-large.jpg Perfect Line of Super Cells: http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm s-in-flight-01-large.jpg -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon Angell Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 12:39 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_ v.jp g FWOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(more to come) Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 12:20 AM Subject: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > Hi guys, > > We at www.thunderbolttours.com have finally been able to get together some > stills of the first tour chase. I am very pleased with the efforts David > has put in. > > Check out: > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/index.html > > or more directly > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_1_02.html > > We were only able to chase for just over a week and were quite fortunate > that the weather co-operated. > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_ v.jp g > > You can see the striations and the corkscrew effect within the updraught > from under the storm - like a spiral staircase - one of the first times I > have seen such a structure in Australia. There is even the classic vault > region evident - textbook LP Supercell. This is usually associated with the US. > > Please note these are video stills but they are good quality. > > Please enjoy. > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Matters" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 08:35:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The link doesnt work. Chears Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Fearby" To: Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 1:01 AM Subject: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) > My Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) > > Up close over a Super Cell at 40,000 ft > http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm > s-in-flight-02-large.jpg > > Perfect Line of Super Cells: > http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm > s-in-flight-01-large.jpg > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon Angell > Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 12:39 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_ > v.jp > g > > FWOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(more to come) > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jimmy Deguara" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 12:20 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > > > > Hi guys, > > > > We at www.thunderbolttours.com have finally been able to get together > some > > stills of the first tour chase. I am very pleased with the efforts > David > > has put in. > > > > Check out: > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/index.html > > > > or more directly > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_1_02.html > > > > We were only able to chase for just over a week and were quite > fortunate > > that the weather co-operated. > > > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_ > v.jp > g > > > > You can see the striations and the corkscrew effect within the > updraught > > from under the storm - like a spiral staircase - one of the first > times I > > have seen such a structure in Australia. There is even the classic > vault > > region evident - textbook LP Supercell. This is usually associated > with > the US. > > > > Please note these are video stills but they are good quality. > > > > Please enjoy. > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - > http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: In Search of Supercells - 2002 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:18:37 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, There are only 2 copies (PAL format) of Roger Hill's video "In Search of Supercells - 2002" available out of the first run. I'll be organising another run of videos in early 2003, but if you'd like a copy before Christmas, let me know and it will get to you next week. For more details, see here http://www.stormchasers.au.com/supercells2002.htm Makes a great Christmas present for the mad keen stormchaser in your family!!! Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:40:07 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You have to cut and paste it- or click these (this should work) http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm s-in-flight-02-large.jpg http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm s-in-flight-01-large.jpg James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Peter Matters Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 8:35 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) The link doesnt work. Chears Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Fearby" To: Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 1:01 AM Subject: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) > My Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) > > Up close over a Super Cell at 40,000 ft > http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm > s-in-flight-02-large.jpg > > Perfect Line of Super Cells: > http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm > s-in-flight-01-large.jpg > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon Angell > Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 12:39 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_ > v.jp > g > > FWOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(more to come) > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jimmy Deguara" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 12:20 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > > > > Hi guys, > > > > We at www.thunderbolttours.com have finally been able to get together > some > > stills of the first tour chase. I am very pleased with the efforts > David > > has put in. > > > > Check out: > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/index.html > > > > or more directly > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_1_02.html > > > > We were only able to chase for just over a week and were quite > fortunate > > that the weather co-operated. > > > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_ > v.jp > g > > > > You can see the striations and the corkscrew effect within the > updraught > > from under the storm - like a spiral staircase - one of the first > times I > > have seen such a structure in Australia. There is even the classic > vault > > region evident - textbook LP Supercell. This is usually associated > with > the US. > > > > Please note these are video stills but they are good quality. > > > > Please enjoy. > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - > http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Anthony Edmondston" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:58:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Link and/or cut & paste still not working Thanks AE ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Holbeach" To: Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 10:40 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) > You have to cut and paste it- or click these (this should work) > > http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm > s-in-flight-02-large.jpg > > http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm > s-in-flight-01-large.jpg > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Matters > Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 8:35 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in > a Boeing 767) > > The link doesnt work. > Chears Peter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Fearby" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 1:01 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a > Boeing > 767) > > > > My Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) > > > > Up close over a Super Cell at 40,000 ft > > > http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm > > s-in-flight-02-large.jpg > > > > Perfect Line of Super Cells: > > > http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm > > s-in-flight-01-large.jpg > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon > Angell > > Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 12:39 AM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > > > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_ > > v.jp > > g > > > > FWOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(more to come) > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jimmy Deguara" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 12:20 AM > > Subject: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > We at www.thunderbolttours.com have finally been able to get > together > > some > > > stills of the first tour chase. I am very pleased with the efforts > > David > > > has put in. > > > > > > Check out: > > > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/index.html > > > > > > or more directly > > > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_1_02.html > > > > > > We were only able to chase for just over a week and were quite > > fortunate > > > that the weather co-operated. > > > > > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > > > > > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_ > > v.jp > > g > > > > > > You can see the striations and the corkscrew effect within the > > updraught > > > from under the storm - like a spiral staircase - one of the first > > times I > > > have seen such a structure in Australia. There is even the classic > > vault > > > region evident - textbook LP Supercell. This is usually associated > > with > > the US. > > > > > > Please note these are video stills but they are good quality. > > > > > > Please enjoy. > > > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > > > from > > > Schofields, Sydney > > > NSW Australia > > > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 11:18:23 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: RE: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Fantastic stuff James!!! Beautiful structure. Jimmy Deguara At 10:40 AM 14/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >You have to cut and paste it- or click these (this should work) > >http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm >s-in-flight-02-large.jpg > >http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm >s-in-flight-01-large.jpg > >James Holbeach >-------------------------------- >Trapdoor Ski Club >Mt. Hotham, Australia >ph. 0417 553 757 >http://www.trapdoor.com.au >-------------------------------- > >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Peter >Matters >Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 8:35 AM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in >a Boeing 767) > >The link doesnt work. >Chears Peter >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Simon Fearby" >To: >Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 1:01 AM >Subject: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a >Boeing >767) > > > > My Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) > > > > Up close over a Super Cell at 40,000 ft > > >http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm > > s-in-flight-02-large.jpg > > > > Perfect Line of Super Cells: > > >http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm > > s-in-flight-01-large.jpg > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon >Angell > > Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 12:39 AM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > > > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > > > >http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_ > > v.jp > > g > > > > FWOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(more to come) > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jimmy Deguara" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 12:20 AM > > Subject: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > We at www.thunderbolttours.com have finally been able to get >together > > some > > > stills of the first tour chase. I am very pleased with the efforts > > David > > > has put in. > > > > > > Check out: > > > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/index.html > > > > > > or more directly > > > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_1_02.html > > > > > > We were only able to chase for just over a week and were quite > > fortunate > > > that the weather co-operated. > > > > > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > > > > > > > >http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_ > > v.jp > > g > > > > > > You can see the striations and the corkscrew effect within the > > updraught > > > from under the storm - like a spiral staircase - one of the first > > times I > > > have seen such a structure in Australia. There is even the classic > > vault > > > region evident - textbook LP Supercell. This is usually associated > > with > > the US. > > > > > > Please note these are video stills but they are good quality. > > > > > > Please enjoy. > > > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > > > from > > > Schofields, Sydney > > > NSW Australia > > > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Tuan Phan" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 11:39:05 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com To those who can't get the photos to work, You can't simply click on the blue underline because the link was too long to fit in one line. As a result, it will not work as the link is missing the: s-in-flight-02-large.jpg or s-in-flight-01-large.jpg part. Hence you get an error. Notice how the second line is not blue and underline. You have to cut & paste both lines together on the address line or manually type in both lines in the http part. this should now work. tuan -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Anthony Edmondston Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 10:58 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) Link and/or cut & paste still not working Thanks AE ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Holbeach" To: Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 10:40 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) > You have to cut and paste it- or click these (this should work) > > http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm > s-in-flight-02-large.jpg > > http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm > s-in-flight-01-large.jpg > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Matters > Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 8:35 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in > a Boeing 767) > > The link doesnt work. > Chears Peter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Fearby" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 1:01 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a > Boeing > 767) > > > > My Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) > > > > Up close over a Super Cell at 40,000 ft > > > http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm > > s-in-flight-02-large.jpg > > > > Perfect Line of Super Cells: > > > http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm > > s-in-flight-01-large.jpg > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon > Angell > > Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 12:39 AM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > > > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_ > > v.jp > > g > > > > FWOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(more to come) > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jimmy Deguara" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 12:20 AM > > Subject: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > We at www.thunderbolttours.com have finally been able to get > together > > some > > > stills of the first tour chase. I am very pleased with the efforts > > David > > > has put in. > > > > > > Check out: > > > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/index.html > > > > > > or more directly > > > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_1_02.html > > > > > > We were only able to chase for just over a week and were quite > > fortunate > > > that the weather co-operated. > > > > > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > > > > > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_ > > v.jp > > g > > > > > > You can see the striations and the corkscrew effect within the > > updraught > > > from under the storm - like a spiral staircase - one of the first > > times I > > > have seen such a structure in Australia. There is even the classic > > vault > > > region evident - textbook LP Supercell. This is usually associated > > with > > the US. > > > > > > Please note these are video stills but they are good quality. > > > > > > Please enjoy. > > > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > > > from > > > Schofields, Sydney > > > NSW Australia > > > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 11:39:21 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com They are not mine they are Simon's- I was just trying to (unsuccessfully) fix the link! LOL James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 11:18 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) Fantastic stuff James!!! Beautiful structure. Jimmy Deguara At 10:40 AM 14/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >You have to cut and paste it- or click these (this should work) > >http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-stor m >s-in-flight-02-large.jpg > >http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-stor m >s-in-flight-01-large.jpg > >James Holbeach >-------------------------------- >Trapdoor Ski Club >Mt. Hotham, Australia >ph. 0417 553 757 >http://www.trapdoor.com.au >-------------------------------- > >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Peter >Matters >Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 8:35 AM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in >a Boeing 767) > >The link doesnt work. >Chears Peter >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Simon Fearby" >To: >Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 1:01 AM >Subject: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a >Boeing >767) > > > > My Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) > > > > Up close over a Super Cell at 40,000 ft > > >http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-stor m > > s-in-flight-02-large.jpg > > > > Perfect Line of Super Cells: > > >http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-stor m > > s-in-flight-01-large.jpg > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon >Angell > > Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 12:39 AM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > > > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > > > >http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18 _ > > v.jp > > g > > > > FWOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(more to come) > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jimmy Deguara" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 12:20 AM > > Subject: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > We at www.thunderbolttours.com have finally been able to get >together > > some > > > stills of the first tour chase. I am very pleased with the efforts > > David > > > has put in. > > > > > > Check out: > > > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/index.html > > > > > > or more directly > > > > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_1_02.html > > > > > > We were only able to chase for just over a week and were quite > > fortunate > > > that the weather co-operated. > > > > > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: > > > > > > > > >http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18 _ > > v.jp > > g > > > > > > You can see the striations and the corkscrew effect within the > > updraught > > > from under the storm - like a spiral staircase - one of the first > > times I > > > have seen such a structure in Australia. There is even the classic > > vault > > > region evident - textbook LP Supercell. This is usually associated > > with > > the US. > > > > > > Please note these are video stills but they are good quality. > > > > > > Please enjoy. > > > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > > > from > > > Schofields, Sydney > > > NSW Australia > > > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 11:47:57 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: RE: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, Sorry, with so many e-mails, I said good stuff to the wrong owner of the photographs. Good stuff Simon. Excellent structure. Jimmy Deguara At 11:18 AM 14/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Fantastic stuff James!!! > >Beautiful structure. > >Jimmy Deguara > >At 10:40 AM 14/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >>You have to cut and paste it- or click these (this should work) >> >>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm >>s-in-flight-02-large.jpg >> >>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm >>s-in-flight-01-large.jpg >> >>James Holbeach >>-------------------------------- >>Trapdoor Ski Club >>Mt. Hotham, Australia >>ph. 0417 553 757 >>http://www.trapdoor.com.au >>-------------------------------- >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Peter >>Matters >>Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 8:35 AM >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in >>a Boeing 767) >> >>The link doesnt work. >>Chears Peter >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Simon Fearby" >>To: >>Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 1:01 AM >>Subject: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a >>Boeing >>767) >> >> >> > My Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) >> > >> > Up close over a Super Cell at 40,000 ft >> > >>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm >> > s-in-flight-02-large.jpg >> > >> > Perfect Line of Super Cells: >> > >>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2002/oct/28/sydney-to-christchurch-storm >> > s-in-flight-01-large.jpg >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon >>Angell >> > Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2002 12:39 AM >> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report >> > >> > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: >> > >> > >>http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_ >> > v.jp >> > g >> > >> > FWOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(more to come) >> > >> > Cheers >> > --------------------------------- >> > Simon Angell >> > Canberra, ACT >> > www.canberra-wx.com >> > --------------------------------------------- >> > Proud member of the >> > Australian Severe Weather Association. >> > www.severeweather.asn.au >> > -------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Jimmy Deguara" >> > To: >> > Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 12:20 AM >> > Subject: aus-wx: Thunderbolt Tours brief chase report >> > >> > >> > > Hi guys, >> > > >> > > We at www.thunderbolttours.com have finally been able to get >>together >> > some >> > > stills of the first tour chase. I am very pleased with the efforts >> > David >> > > has put in. >> > > >> > > Check out: >> > > >> > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/index.html >> > > >> > > or more directly >> > > >> > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_1_02.html >> > > >> > > We were only able to chase for just over a week and were quite >> > fortunate >> > > that the weather co-operated. >> > > >> > > My favourite was the LP supercell over Canberra: >> > > >> > > >> > >>http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_ >> > v.jp >> > g >> > > >> > > You can see the striations and the corkscrew effect within the >> > updraught >> > > from under the storm - like a spiral staircase - one of the first >> > times I >> > > have seen such a structure in Australia. There is even the classic >> > vault >> > > region evident - textbook LP Supercell. This is usually associated >> > with >> > the US. >> > > >> > > Please note these are video stills but they are good quality. >> > > >> > > Please enjoy. >> > > >> > > Jimmy Deguara >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ----------------------------------------- >> > > Please note the change to my new e-mail >> > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com >> > > >> > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - >> > http://www.thunderbolttours.com >> > > ----------------------------------------- >> > > Jimmy Deguara >> > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher >> > > >> > > from >> > > Schofields, Sydney >> > > NSW Australia >> > > >> > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com >> > > >> > > Web Page with Michael Bath >> > > >> > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page >> > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com >> > > >> > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association >> > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> > > >> > > >> > >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> > to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >> > your >> > > message. >> > > >> > >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> > to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >> > your >> > message. >> > >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> > >> > >> > >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >>to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >>your >> > message. >> > >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >>to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >>your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 13:05:36 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Super Cell photos over the Tasman (at 40,000 ft in a Boeing 767) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:35 AM 14/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >The link doesnt work. It does, but it wrapped in Simons's message, so you have to copy and paste the 2 halves into the browser. P.S. Nice pics Simon! :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Where to buy? Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 18:27:38 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Peter, What weather station you get all depends on what $$$ your looking at spending. For under $400 there is the WM-918 from Dick Smiths http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront Cat No. D3960 This is the same wx station that I run at my place (station uploads here: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer/wm918data.htm & photos of station here: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer/wm918photos.htm) Keep an eye out for their SALES as they usually knock $100 off the rrp! If your looking at spending more $$$ then the following links may be helpful to you... http://www.australianskynweather.com/ http://www.davisnet.com/weather/help_choosing.asp http://www.weatherconnect.com/Default.asp Just remember the old saying - You get what you pay for. Hope you find this of some help :) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter May" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 1:52 PM Subject: aus-wx: Where to buy? > Hi all. Please excuse my posting if this is a bit off topic. > > > I am in need to buy a weather station and have found plenty outside > Australia but not a huge variety (web sites that is) of info. I did find one > company in Sydney selling Pete Bros stuff but it was around $400 on top of > the price out of the states even after money conversion. > > > I actually need 2. I have however built one since I had access to a lathe > etc. this one is remote to my location and transmits data back via radio so > it doesn't have to have an interface but I am interested if there are any > out there with no inteface but able to get data out of say with a serial > connection. > > > and the second is for my main office. I need to measure the usual temp (only > has to be outside, inside is a bonus), humidity, barometric pressure, rain > and how heavy if possible, wind direction and speed and thats about it. I > would like a display with this one and the ability to store some info if my > computer is offline but normally to be hooked up to my computer and sending > the data to it. I write software myself so I would like the data format to > be avialable etc... > > Gee not much hey? I wonder if I can get one to iron my shirts. Anyway where > in Aus is there a site or place I can contact likely to have quality for > dollars at a fair price? > > regards, Peter > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "dann weatherhead" To: Subject: aus-wx: A SSC TDU Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 08:56:39 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi,
 
After two days, we are in Roma. Friday we made moree. Yesterday we covered 1200kms, Lots of CG's, some nice structure and more dead roos than we care to share. For a report got to http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/tdu02_01.
 
dann, james, matt
 

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From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fw: [EDIS] MINOR FLOODING IS FORECASTED FOR THE RUSSIAN RIVERINCLUDING [FLASH: San Francisco Bay] Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 11:07:13 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Some interesting rain totals here.. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "EDIS Email Service" To: Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 5:13 AM Subject: [EDIS] MINOR FLOODING IS FORECASTED FOR THE RUSSIAN RIVERINCLUDING [FLASH: San Francisco Bay] > NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN FRANCISCO CA > 945 AM PST SAT DEC 14 2002 > > ...MINOR FLOODING IS FORECASTED FOR THE RUSSIAN RIVER...INCLUDING > HEALDSBURG AND GUERNEVILLE... > > ...MINOR FLOODING IS FORECASTED FOR THE NAPA RIVER...INCLUDING ST > HELENA... > > RAINFALL OVER THE PAST 36 HOURS HAS TOTALED NEARLY 10 INCHES IN SOME > LOCATIONS ACROSS THE RUSSIAN AND NAPA RIVER BASINS. AN ADDITIONAL 3 > TO 6 INCHES IS EXPECTED TO FALL LATER THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. ON > THIS SATURATED GROUND...FURTHER RAINFALL WILL CAUSE RISES ALONG THE > NAPA AND RUSSIAN RIVERS. > > FOR THE RUSSIAN RIVER NEAR HEALDSBURG...THE LATEST STAGE WAS 12.7 > FEET AT 8 AM SATURDAY. MINOR FLOODING IS FORECAST...WITH A MAXIMUM > STAGE OF 19.5 FEET AT 10 PM SATURDAY...WHICH IS 0.5 FEET ABOVE FLOOD > STAGE. THE STAGE WILL RISE ABOVE THE FLOOD STAGE OF 19.0 FEET AT 9 > PM SATURDAY. AT 19.0 FEET...MINOR FLOODING CAN BE EXPECTED ACROSS > LOW LYING AREAS AND FARMLAND ALONG THE ENTIRE REACH. THIS CREST > COMPARES TO A PREVIOUS CREST OF 19.5 FEET ON DEC 4 1950. > > FOR THE RUSSIAN RIVER AT GUERNEVILLE...THE LATEST STAGE WAS 20.7 FEET > AT 7 AM SATURDAY. MINOR FLOODING IS FORECAST...WITH A MAXIMUM STAGE > OF 33.5 FEET AT 7 AM SUNDAY...WHICH IS 1.5 FEET ABOVE FLOOD STAGE. > THE STAGE WILL RISE ABOVE THE FLOOD STAGE OF 32.0 FEET AT 4 AM > SUNDAY. AT 33.0 FEET...MODERATE FLOODING IS FORECAST TO OCCUR WITH > THE LOWEST SECTIONS OF GUERNEVILLE AND MONTE RIO EXPECTED TO FLOOD. > THE SOUTH END OF THE GUERNEVILLE BRIDGE IS EXPECTED TO BE INUNDATED. > MIRABEL TRAILER PARK AND RESORT ARE FORECAST TO BEGIN FLOODING. AT > 33.0 FEET, MINOR FLOODING IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE ALONG THE LOWER > PORTIONS OF THE RUSSIAN RIVER. THIS CREST COMPARES TO A PREVIOUS > CREST OF 33.1 FEET ON FEB 20 1998. > > FOR THE NAPA RIVER NEAR ST HELENA...THE LATEST STAGE WAS 9.5 FEET AT > 8 AM SATURDAY. MINOR FLOODING IS FORECASTED...WITH A MAXIMUM STAGE > OF 13.0 FEET AT 4 PM SATURDAY...WHICH IS EQUAL TO THE FLOOD STAGE. > THE STAGE WILL FALL BELOW FLOOD STAGE AT 7 PM SATURDAY. AT 13.0 > FEET...MINOR FLOODING OF AGRICULTURAL LAND ALONG THE UPPER NAPA RIVER > CAN BE EXPECTED. SOME SECONDARY ROADS IN CALISTOGA... SAINT HELENA > AND YOUNTVILLE BEGIN TO FLOOD. AT 13.0 FEET...SOME MINOR FLOODING OF > FARM LAND WILL CONTINUE ACROSS THE UPPER NAPA VALLEY. THIS CREST > COMPARES TO A PREVIOUS CREST OF 13.4 FEET ON JAN 13 1969. > > FOR THE NAPA RIVER NEAR NAPA, THE LATEST STAGE IS 19.9 FEET AT 08 AM > SATURDAY. NO FLOODING IS FORECASTED AS THE FLOOD STAGE AT THIS > FORECAST POINT IS 25.0 FEET. > > A FLASH FLOOD WATCH ALSO REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR NAPA...SONOMA AND > MARIN COUNTIES THROUGH THIS EVENING. NUMEROUS SMALL RIVERS AND > CREEKS WILL SEE SHARP RISES...AND MUDSLIDES REMAIN A POSSIBILITY IN > THESE COUNTIES. > > RIVER/ 7 AM FORECAST FLOOD RECORD > STATION STAGE/ STAGE STAGE/ > TREND DATE > > NAPA RIVER 9.4 FT RISE TO AND CRESTING AT 13.0 18.5 > ST HELENA RISING FLOOD STAGE BY 4 PM 2/86 > SATURDAY THEN FALL AND 3/95 > BELOW FLOOD STAGE > SATURDAY EVENING. > > RUSSIAN RIVER 12.9 RISE TO ABOVE FLOOD 19.0 30.8 > HEALDSBURG RISING STAGE BY 10 PM SATURDAY 12/37 > ...CRESTING AT 19.5 FT. > WILL FALL BELOW FLOOD > STAGE EARLY SUNDAY MORNING. > > RUSSIAN RIVER 20.7 RISE TO FLOOD STAGE AT 32.0 48.8 > GUERNEVILLE RISING 4 AM THEN RISE ABOVE 2/86 > FLOOD STAGE CRESTING > TO 33.5 FEET AT 7 AM > SUNDAY. > > PERSONS LIVING...TRAVELING OR HAVING VALUABLES ALONG THESE RIVERS > SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE SERIOUSNESS OF THIS SITUATION AND SHOULD TAKE > NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR PROPERTY. > ACTUAL CONDITIONS MAY VARY GREATLY FROM THESE FORECASTS DEPENDING ON > AMOUNTS/INTENSITIES OF RAINFALL ACTUALLY RECEIVED. THE NEXT > STATEMENT FOR THE RUSSIAN AND NAPA RIVERS WILL BE ISSUED THIS > AFTERNOON. > > ANDERSON > > > [FLWMTR / WGUS46 KMTR 1039888724] > > EDIS-12-14-02 0958 PST > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > To update or terminate your subscription to this email service > visit our webpage at http://www.incident.com/edismail.html. > Please DO NOT reply to this message: replies may be treated as > errors and result in your subscription being deleted. If > you have trouble with the Web form, or for other queries, email > . (But for faster service try the > Web method first!) > > EDIS is operated by the Governor's Office of Emergency Services, > State of California. This email relay service is offered by > incident.com on a non-commercial, subscription-only basis. > Because of the complexity of this system and its dependence on > other systems, we cannot be responsible for delays or failures > in forwarding or transmission. > --------------------------------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: [EDIS] MINOR FLOODING IS FORECASTED FOR THE RUSSIAN RIVERINCLUDING [FLASH: San Francisco Bay] Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:17:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Some interesting rain totals here.. > Dave A good example of El Nino's impact on the other side of the pond. Patrick +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David James Powell" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: [EDIS] MINOR FLOODING IS FORECASTED FOR THE RUSSIAN RIVERINCLUDING [FLASH: San Francisco Bay] X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.00 X-IPAddress: 208.189.4.35 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:30:57 -0600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello ever'body: El Nino will give us above normal precip, which I like, except I don't really like the prolonged cloudy weather that comes with it.(Sunshine today--Sat. Dec. 14--for the first time since the 7th).Hopefully this'll enhance our chances for SNOW!!! Heard on the Weather Channel that Reno, Nevada had its Highest-Ever wind gust, 82mph(132.0kph); some of the higher ski resorts in the Sierra Nevada (California) had gusts of 115mph(185.1kph)! (That'll get the skiers downhill pretty quick). They may go through the same thing next week. This is the wet-season for the West Coast, hopefully these large amounts of rain/snow will ease their drought situation. We'll probably get weather from this system in about 3 days. Yours David Powell > > Some interesting rain totals here.. > > Dave > > A good example of El Nino's impact on the other side of the pond. > > Patrick > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------ ------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > -- Sent using Voltage Net Webmail http://www.voltage.net/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: aus-wx: Algorythms for forecasting Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:00:05 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Well In playing around with my weather station I have begun to see that it says it should be cloudy or sunny etc. So in search of another project ot add to my ever increasing interest/hobby, how does it do this? I did a search on the net and found that there is a formula to calculate coud height etc. What I don't undertand is that the formula to calculate this would return a height no matter what. Sometimes higher than others. So is it saying the clouds are always there but not visible? Ok what else can be calclauted by formula? I remember as a kid having a baromter on the verander wall. I obviously now know what it means and how it works but does it mean the greater number of millibars drop per hour will result in a wild storm? Instead of boring you all with questions is there a good website to answer these questions? I have found bits and pieces but not on one site? My 7 year old son loved watching the sation and the results so I need to learn a bit more myself so we can continue this project. Regards, Peter -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Vic Heat. Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:32:16 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2002 03:34:43.0045 (UTC) FILETIME=[1273E950:01C2A4B4] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all. Some decent heating over northwest Vic this afternoon with a pool (hot spring) of TC air, temps into the low forties and whopping humidity of around 5% at some locations! in contrast the southern ocean influence has temps along parts of the coast around 17c. regards Clyve Herbert.
 
PS congratulations to Hailstone Jimmy (Jimmy D) on your successful thunderbolt tour this year.
From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Heat. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:04:23 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2A50F.EE6CDEC0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi all. Some decent heating over northwest Vic this afternoon with a = > pool (hot spring) of TC air, temps into the low forties and whopping = > humidity of around 5% at some locations! in contrast the southern ocean = > influence has temps along parts of the coast around 17c. regards Clyve = > Herbert. > Not just Vic, either - many SA sites are in the low 40s, as are a few in NSW (although not as many as one might imagine). Adelaide had reached 39.2 at 2.30 and should have a reasonable shot at its first 40 since February 2001. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Dew point formula Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:11:19 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Anyone know the formula used to find the dewpoint temp? Thanks.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dew point formula Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:33:16 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
It depends on the factors you already know? Do you know baromteric pressure (in millibars) and  Temp in Celcius? See http://members.aol.com/Accustiver/wxworld_calc.html
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Anyone know the formula used to find the dewpoint temp? Thanks.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

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From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Dew point formula Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:50:32 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thanks Peter. Much appreciated.
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It depends on the factors you already know? Do you know baromteric pressure (in millibars) and  Temp in Celcius? See http://members.aol.com/Accustiver/wxworld_calc.html
 
From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: question Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:51:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com has the weatherdownunder.net web site been pulled down as i can not connect to it Stephen +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 05:54:09 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: question X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Nope. http://www.weatherdownunder.net is working just fine from Hong Kong this morning. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "stephen galowski" To: Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:51:05 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: question > has the weatherdownunder.net web site > been pulled down as i can not connect to it > Stephen > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:39:41 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne X-X-Sender: robert at tornado.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey all Extremely sorry for the offtopic post, and I guess this'll only apply to those in Melbourne (others can delete this email and hopefully resist the urge to complain about such an offtopic post), but since I'm going to Germany in January, I'm going to have to sell my car. It is a 1992 Daihatsu Charade 5 door hatch with 165,000km on the clock. Features include: 1.3L 16 valve EFI 5 speed manual air con, power steering, power mirrors. I have just bought (as of 15/12/02) a new set of tires for it+wheel alignment, and has just undergone a major service. It is registered until June 2003. It is very economical with petrol, having done 500km on a full 35l tank, and surprisingly quite powerful for a small car! City driving and parking is a breeze. I have had it for 2 years, and have done 40,000km with it. I have taken it for regular servicing and have not had a single problem with it. Pictures of what it looks like are here: http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2002/Jul/image106.jpg http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2001/Jan/25Jan09.jpg I'm looking for $3500 ono Anyone interested can contact me on 0408 867839 Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:58:50 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:39 PM 17/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Extremely sorry for the offtopic post, and I guess this'll only apply to It is chase equipment, so not totally off topic. ;-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: question Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:47:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wouldn't work for me this morning (6am) but is ok now :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:54 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: question > Nope. > http://www.weatherdownunder.net > is working just fine from Hong Kong this morning. > > Phil > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:50:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Groan. Sounds like it's weathered the storm........... Sorry for the one line post but had to add a humourist bit to the list. One thousand apologies.......... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Goler" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:39 PM Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne > > Hey all > > Extremely sorry for the offtopic post, and I guess this'll only apply to > those in Melbourne (others can delete this email and hopefully resist the > urge to complain about such an offtopic post), but since I'm going to > Germany in January, I'm going to have to sell my car. > > It is a 1992 Daihatsu Charade 5 door hatch with 165,000km on the clock. > Features include: > 1.3L 16 valve EFI > 5 speed manual > air con, power steering, power mirrors. > > I have just bought (as of 15/12/02) a new set of tires for it+wheel > alignment, and has just undergone a major service. It is registered until > June 2003. > > It is very economical with petrol, having done 500km on a full 35l tank, > and surprisingly quite powerful for a small car! City driving and parking > is a breeze. I have had it for 2 years, and have done 40,000km with it. I > have taken it for regular servicing and have not had a single problem with > it. > > Pictures of what it looks like are here: > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2002/Jul/image106.jpg > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2001/Jan/25Jan09.jpg > > I'm looking for $3500 ono > Anyone interested can contact me on 0408 867839 > > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > School of Mathematical Sciences > PO Box 28M > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 03:01:42 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com LOL Bussy.....Humor was a bit of a "bust", but may be a chance to re-develop given the right conditions :oP PaulY -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Bussy Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:51 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne Groan. Sounds like it's weathered the storm........... Sorry for the one line post but had to add a humourist bit to the list. One thousand apologies.......... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Goler" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:39 PM Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne > > Hey all > > Extremely sorry for the offtopic post, and I guess this'll only apply to > those in Melbourne (others can delete this email and hopefully resist the > urge to complain about such an offtopic post), but since I'm going to > Germany in January, I'm going to have to sell my car. > > It is a 1992 Daihatsu Charade 5 door hatch with 165,000km on the clock. > Features include: > 1.3L 16 valve EFI > 5 speed manual > air con, power steering, power mirrors. > > I have just bought (as of 15/12/02) a new set of tires for it+wheel > alignment, and has just undergone a major service. It is registered until > June 2003. > > It is very economical with petrol, having done 500km on a full 35l tank, > and surprisingly quite powerful for a small car! City driving and parking > is a breeze. I have had it for 2 years, and have done 40,000km with it. I > have taken it for regular servicing and have not had a single problem with > it. > > Pictures of what it looks like are here: > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2002/Jul/image106.jpg > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2001/Jan/25Jan09.jpg > > I'm looking for $3500 ono > Anyone interested can contact me on 0408 867839 > > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > School of Mathematical Sciences > PO Box 28M > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:20:32 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Does the car come with the storm in the 2nd photo??? Nice storm affecting Canberra at the moment. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Goler" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:39 PM Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne > > Hey all > > Extremely sorry for the offtopic post, and I guess this'll only apply to > those in Melbourne (others can delete this email and hopefully resist the > urge to complain about such an offtopic post), but since I'm going to > Germany in January, I'm going to have to sell my car. > > It is a 1992 Daihatsu Charade 5 door hatch with 165,000km on the clock. > Features include: > 1.3L 16 valve EFI > 5 speed manual > air con, power steering, power mirrors. > > I have just bought (as of 15/12/02) a new set of tires for it+wheel > alignment, and has just undergone a major service. It is registered until > June 2003. > > It is very economical with petrol, having done 500km on a full 35l tank, > and surprisingly quite powerful for a small car! City driving and parking > is a breeze. I have had it for 2 years, and have done 40,000km with it. I > have taken it for regular servicing and have not had a single problem with > it. > > Pictures of what it looks like are here: > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2002/Jul/image106.jpg > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2001/Jan/25Jan09.jpg > > I'm looking for $3500 ono > Anyone interested can contact me on 0408 867839 > > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > School of Mathematical Sciences > PO Box 28M > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:50:58 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hi paul,
 
wern't you going to america, or are you there?
 
richard
naracoorte
 
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Date: Tuesday, 17 December 2002 6:41:34 PM
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LOL Bussy.....Humor was a bit of a "bust", but may be a chance to re-develop
given the right conditions :oP

PaulY

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne


Groan. Sounds like it's weathered the storm...........
Sorry for the one line post but had to add a humourist bit to the list. One
thousand apologies..........
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From: "Robert Goler" <Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne


>
> Hey all
>
> Extremely sorry for the offtopic post, and I guess this'll only apply to
> those in Melbourne (others can delete this email and hopefully resist the
> urge to complain about such an offtopic post), but since I'm going to
> Germany in January, I'm going to have to sell my car.
>
> It is a 1992 Daihatsu Charade 5 door hatch with 165,000km on the clock.
> Features include:
> 1.3L 16 valve EFI
> 5 speed manual
> air con, power steering, power mirrors.
>
> I have just bought (as of 15/12/02) a new set of tires for it+wheel
> alignment, and has just undergone a major service. It is registered until
> June 2003.
>
> It is very economical with petrol, having done 500km on a full 35l tank,
> and surprisingly quite powerful for a small car! City driving and parking
> iRE aus-wx OFFTOPIC Car for s.ems s a breeze. I have had it for 2 years, and have done 40,000km with it. I
> have taken it for regular servicing and have not had a single problem with
> it.
>
> Pictures of what it looks like are here:
> http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2002/Jul/image106.jpg
> http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2001/Jan/25Jan09.jpg
>
> I'm looking for $3500 ono
> Anyone interested can contact me on 0408 867839
>
>
> Cheers
>
> --
>
> Robert A. Goler
>
> School of Mathematical Sciences
> PO Box 28M
> Monash University
> Clayton, Vic 3800
> Australia
>
> ph. +61 3 9905 4424
> email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au
> http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/
>
> --
>
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Embedded Content: IMSTP28.gif: 00000001,536ffe19,00000000,00000000 From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 03:34:19 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Richard,
 
I'm out of here next Tuesday....for a happy 23hrs 30mins in a couple of pressurized tubes...LOL
 
PaulY
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Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:21 AM
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hi paul,
 
wern't you going to america, or are you there?
 
richard
naracoorte
 
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Date: Tuesday, 17 December 2002 6:41:34 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne
 
LOL Bussy.....Humor was a bit of a "bust", but may be a chance to re-develop
given the right conditions :oP

PaulY

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Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:51 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne


Groan. Sounds like it's weathered the storm...........
Sorry for the one line post but had to add a humourist bit to the list. One
thousand apologies..........
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Goler" <Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Car for sale in Melbourne


>
> Hey all
>
> Extremely sorry for the offtopic post, and I guess this'll only apply to
> those in Melbourne (others can delete this email and hopefully resist the
> urge to complain about such an offtopic post), but since I'm going to
> Germany in January, I'm going to have to sell my car.
>
> It is a 1992 Daihatsu Charade 5 door hatch with 165,000km on the clock.
> Features include:
> 1.3L 16 valve EFI
> 5 speed manual
> air con, power steering, power mirrors.
>
> I have just bought (as of 15/12/02) a new set of tires for it+wheel
> alignment, and has just undergone a major service. It is registered until
> June 2003.
>
> It is very economical with petrol, having done 500km on a full 35l tank,
> and surprisingly quite powerful for a small car! City driving and parking
> is a breeze. I have had it for 2 years, and have done 40,000km with it. I
> have taken it for regular servicing and have not had a single problem with
> it.
>
> Pictures of what it looks like are here:
> http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2002/Jul/image106.jpg
> http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2001/Jan/25Jan09.jpg
>
> I'm looking for $3500 ono
> Anyone interested can contact me on 0408 867839
>
>
> Cheers
>
> --
>
> Robert A. Goler
>
> School of Mathematical Sciences
> PO Box 28M
> Monash University
> Clayton, Vic 3800
> Australia
>
> ph. +61 3 9905 4424
> email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au
> http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/
>
> --
>
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Embedded Content: IMSTP29.gif: 00000001,4fac8941,00000000,00000000 From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Forecast discussion terminology Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:39:00 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From a forecast discussion from the NE of the United States tonight appears this gem.... FOR YOU WHITE CHRISTMAS FANS...THE LATEST RUN OF THE GFS DOES SUGGEST A SNOWSTORM ON CHRISTMAS DAY FOR SOUTHWEST MICHIGAN! DON'T BET YOUR TWO FRONT TEETH ON IT JUST YET THOU. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:52:30 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecast discussion terminology Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
WOW, currently getting waves or really savage atmospheric interference on the tv atm,
tv going to snow, not unusual but the sound is getting wildly amplified and distorted, no white noise. cant remember the last time i got interference on tv.
what's the solar situation atm?
anyone else getting a dose?
 
 
richard
naracoorte
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Embedded Content: IMSTP30.gif: 00000001,59a9380c,00000000,00000000 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Forecast discussion terminology Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:49:23 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Nothing of any significance to explain it . . . . perhaps lgm? ;)

http://www.sel.noaa.gov/today.html

 

 

James Holbeach

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Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 12:23 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecast discussion terminology

 

WOW, currently getting waves or really savage atmospheric interference on the tv atm,

tv going to snow, not unusual but the sound is getting wildly amplified and distorted, no white noise. cant remember the last time i got interference on tv.

what's the solar situation atm?

anyone else getting a dose?

 

 

richard

naracoorte
.

 

 

 

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Embedded Content: image0012.gif: 00000001,18f3de35,00000000,00000000 From: vk3jed-1 at optusnet.com.au X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 09:16:01 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Jimmy's interview on 3AW this morning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Got a bit of a surprise this morning when the clock radio went off at the usual time (around 6:17AM). As usual, the radio was on 3AW and the first think I hear is they're talking about storms, and were about to conduct an interview. Turns out the interview was with Jimmy Deguara about Thunderbolt Tours. The interview was quite good and lasted a few minutes, and one of the presenters seemed to be a bit interested in the subject as well. I ended up rummaging around for a portable radio so I could hear the end of it, while getting ready for work. Well done Jimmy, and a pleasent surprise to kick the day off. :) Did anyone else happen to catch the interview? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:35:56 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Jimmy's interview on 3AW this morning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Thanks and I thought I was safe at this hour. I tell you what, I must have sounded tired cause I was!! Jimmy Deguara At 09:16 AM 18/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Got a bit of a surprise this morning when the clock radio went off at the >usual time >(around 6:17AM). As usual, the radio was on 3AW and the first think I >hear is >they're talking about storms, and were about to conduct an >interview. Turns out >the interview was with Jimmy Deguara about Thunderbolt Tours. > >The interview was quite good and lasted a few minutes, and one of the >presenters seemed to be a bit interested in the subject as well. I ended up >rummaging around for a portable radio so I could hear the end of it, while >getting >ready for work. > >Well done Jimmy, and a pleasent surprise to kick the day off. :) > >Did anyone else happen to catch the interview? > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:57:14 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Jimmy's interview on 3AW this morning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 03:35 PM 18/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hi, > >Thanks and I thought I was safe at this hour. > >I tell you what, I must have sounded tired cause I was!! Hahhaa, well, it came across quite well, no, didn't sound too tired... and goes to show, you never know who's listening. ;-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:59:33 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Another image loaded Glenorie fires Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello, Just added another thermal image taken from above the Glenorie fires which is quite spectacular. check it out. http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2002/docs/200212-01.htm Well worth the download!!! Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Stunning summer sunset Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:19:06 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, A few images of an astoundingly beautiful sunset yesterday afternoon...... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/summer02jon.htm Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:19:21 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another image loaded Glenorie fires Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:59 PM 18/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hello, > >Just added another thermal image taken from above the Glenorie fires which >is quite spectacular. check it out. > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2002/docs/200212-01.htm > >Well worth the download!!! Some awesome pics and scary ones as well. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie-Wx" Subject: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:03:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all, just uploaded some pics from today's action, not as good as hoped, but better than nothing.
 
Still drizzling as i type, hopefully more storms tomorrow, but i will be working from 3pm to 12am...
 

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:21:29 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Stunning summer sunset Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:19 PM 18/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Evening all, > >A few images of an astoundingly beautiful sunset yesterday >afternoon...... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/summer02jon.htm Lucky you, the clouds weren't in the right position here, so my camera still hasn't has its WX christening. :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Bass Strait eddy Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:01:06 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening again, A couple of days ago there was a fascinating eddy over Bass Strait, which has been captured by various ASWA members who found and made the images available that appear on the following page....thanks to David & Robert for finding them. Anyone like to have a punt on the cause???? - this event was very long lived...... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/1216eddy.htm Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:06:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Had some magnificent views down over the ranges this arvo as I went round in my schoolbus. Kids used the camera and guess who had the flat battery syndrome. Bugger. Bits and pieces popped up everywhere. Went to a school function and rushed out when it was all over and "it" was all over.
Have noticed though that at 8pm I had a minus 2.7 DP and it has now risen to 10.9 at 10pm. Pretty impressive rise I thought. Fingers crossed..........
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Subject: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02

Hi all, just uploaded some pics from today's action, not as good as hoped, but better than nothing.
 
Still drizzling as i type, hopefully more storms tomorrow, but i will be working from 3pm to 12am...
 

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
---------------------------------------------
Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "Steve Baynham" To: Subject: aus-wx: Canberra pics Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:38:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hey guys,
i got some captures aswell just uploaded.
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02

Hi all, just uploaded some pics from today's action, not as good as hoped, but better than nothing.
 
Still drizzling as i type, hopefully more storms tomorrow, but i will be working from 3pm to 12am...
 

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
---------------------------------------------
Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "James Chambers" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra pics (and NSW Storms) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:46:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Steve, Simon, all Nice captures/pics there - you sure had some nice lightning! While I'm here... it's been a very active thunderstorm day in NSW! Most districts in the state were under Severe Thunderstorm Advices and right now, many continue. The area most in concern right now (11.45pm NSW time) is the area in the Central Tablelands from Orange in a line to the NW. Radar and lightning tracker point to some strong storms there. As for SE Qld, there has been isolated thunderstorm activity since mid afternoon but they never really got that impressive. There was however a nicely lightning active storm in the Warwick area tonight which has since dissipated. James hey guys, i got some captures aswell just uploaded. http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/steve/02121801.jpg http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/steve/02121802.jpg http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/steve/02121803.jpg http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/steve/02121804.jpg +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 06:08:40 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I gather by the DP you mean DEW POINT? Does this help in the prediction of rain or storms at all?
 
Regards, Peter
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Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 10:07 PM
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02

Had some magnificent views down over the ranges this arvo as I went round in my schoolbus. Kids used the camera and guess who had the flat battery syndrome. Bugger. Bits and pieces popped up everywhere. Went to a school function and rushed out when it was all over and "it" was all over.
Have noticed though that at 8pm I had a minus 2.7 DP and it has now risen to 10.9 at 10pm. Pretty impressive rise I thought. Fingers crossed..........
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Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02

Hi all, just uploaded some pics from today's action, not as good as hoped, but better than nothing.
 
Still drizzling as i type, hopefully more storms tomorrow, but i will be working from 3pm to 12am...
 

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
---------------------------------------------
Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 06:54:20 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Sorry. Yes it was an abbreviation of Dew point. Sometimes :-)
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From: Peter May
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:08 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02

I gather by the DP you mean DEW POINT? Does this help in the prediction of rain or storms at all?
 
Regards, Peter
 
From: "Tuan Phan" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Bass Strait eddy Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:27:57 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ok, here is some info about the eddy that may interest some people. I went back and had a closer look at the mslp anals around the time in question with a BoM senior analysis. He actually did the 2 anals previously (00z &06z) and thought the sat pic was very interesting. Basically, at 12z, there was a small circulation as evident by the low cloud but was not analysed due to small scale. King Is obs (1021.2) was paid but Flinders Is (1020.4) was not. Couple of obs on Tas E coast was not paid as well. If anal was 100% kosher, it would have seen the High ridging around Tas and enveloping the very small low. Quite a bit of evidence backing up the presence of low. A ship obs in Bass Strait was partially paid (Pressure was but W'ly wind was not). The ship obs actually gave very good evidence of central location of the circulation. A few obs along the N Tas coast also hinted of a circulation. But the best evidence of circulation was obviously the low cloud on sat pic. It is believed that these small scale features are remnant of a weak front/low/trough. Looking at the quickscat, there was evidence of a weak front (SE of Tas) that was not analysed (due to scale only, of course ;) ). The (not analysed) front is associated with a very weak low (not analysed) just W of NZ (weak evidence due to isobar spacing, winds and other stuff. Very interesting example of a small scale system. That's all we can see on reanalysis of the situation. Tuan -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 22:01 To: Aussie-wx Subject: aus-wx: Bass Strait eddy Evening again, A couple of days ago there was a fascinating eddy over Bass Strait, which has been captured by various ASWA members who found and made the images available that appear on the following page....thanks to David & Robert for finding them. Anyone like to have a punt on the cause???? - this event was very long lived...... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/1216eddy.htm Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Jimmy's interview on 3AW this morning To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:33:03 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Did they wake you up at 6 in the morning as well? Blair (who was rung by 3AW at 6 this morning and wasn't too pleased about it, although I feel more sorry for the two other B.Trewins in the Melbourne phone book who they probably woke up trying to find me. The consequence of having an unusual name I guess - I don't think it will ever happen to David Jones :-) > Hi, > > Thanks and I thought I was safe at this hour. > > I tell you what, I must have sounded tired cause I was!! > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 09:16 AM 18/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: > >Got a bit of a surprise this morning when the clock radio went off at the > >usual time > >(around 6:17AM). As usual, the radio was on 3AW and the first think I > >hear is > >they're talking about storms, and were about to conduct an > >interview. Turns out > >the interview was with Jimmy Deguara about Thunderbolt Tours. > > > >The interview was quite good and lasted a few minutes, and one of the > >presenters seemed to be a bit interested in the subject as well. I ended up > >rummaging around for a portable radio so I could hear the end of it, while > >getting > >ready for work. > > > >Well done Jimmy, and a pleasent surprise to kick the day off. :) > > > >Did anyone else happen to catch the interview? > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:18:06 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
i will have a look at my setup on that peter and will advise the list
Stephen galowski
ccna
software engineer , monitor sensors
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter May
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:08 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02

I gather by the DP you mean DEW POINT? Does this help in the prediction of rain or storms at all?
 
Regards, Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Bussy [mailto:bussie at netc.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 10:07 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02

Had some magnificent views down over the ranges this arvo as I went round in my schoolbus. Kids used the camera and guess who had the flat battery syndrome. Bugger. Bits and pieces popped up everywhere. Went to a school function and rushed out when it was all over and "it" was all over.
Have noticed though that at 8pm I had a minus 2.7 DP and it has now risen to 10.9 at 10pm. Pretty impressive rise I thought. Fingers crossed..........
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02

Hi all, just uploaded some pics from today's action, not as good as hoped, but better than nothing.
 
Still drizzling as i type, hopefully more storms tomorrow, but i will be working from 3pm to 12am...
 

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:25:44 +1100 From: Greg Browning X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Wx List Subject: aus-wx: DV Camera enquiry Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, Hope the storm season is treating you kindly, its a bit quiet in Melb, ATM (just for a change). Does anyone have any experience/knowledge of the JVC digital video camera GR-DVX707? Have been offered said model for $1500(virtually brand new) and was curious as to whether it would make a good storm-chase companion. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Greg Browning Mulgrave, Vic +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.30.21] From: "Rune Peitersen" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another image loaded Glenorie fires Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:01:37 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2002 05:01:37.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5C494B0:01C2A71B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some images there that bring back a lot of memories Jimmy, I especially relate to the thin plume of smoke erupting within 10 minutes to fill the whole western sky with darkness, it was an awesome scary sight to see that unfold, i have a little video footage of it, obviuosly not a lot as was too busy filling everything with water etc!, Powerful stuff. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Cc: "Darryl Smith" Subject: aus-wx: news south wales ( australia) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:21:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
severe weather warning
 
 
severe thunderstorms  advice 
with high winds and hail
 
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Issued at 3:51 PM Thursday 19 December 2002.

The Bureau of Meteorology in SYDNEY has issued a Severe Thunderstorm Advice
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Northwest Plains in the south,
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X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:27:51 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Jimmy's interview on 3AW this morning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Blair et al I was told earlier so my clock woke me up - I tell you what it almost turned into a projectile until I recalled the reason why!!! Jimmy Deguara At 10:33 AM 19/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Did they wake you up at 6 in the morning as well? > >Blair > >(who was rung by 3AW at 6 this morning and wasn't too pleased about >it, although I feel more sorry for the two other B.Trewins in the >Melbourne phone book who they probably woke up trying to find me. >The consequence of having an unusual name I guess - I don't think >it will ever happen to David Jones :-) > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks and I thought I was safe at this hour. > > > > I tell you what, I must have sounded tired cause I was!! > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > At 09:16 AM 18/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: > > >Got a bit of a surprise this morning when the clock radio went off at the > > >usual time > > >(around 6:17AM). As usual, the radio was on 3AW and the first think I > > >hear is > > >they're talking about storms, and were about to conduct an > > >interview. Turns out > > >the interview was with Jimmy Deguara about Thunderbolt Tours. > > > > > >The interview was quite good and lasted a few minutes, and one of the > > >presenters seemed to be a bit interested in the subject as well. I > ended up > > >rummaging around for a portable radio so I could hear the end of it, > while > > >getting > > >ready for work. > > > > > >Well done Jimmy, and a pleasent surprise to kick the day off. :) > > > > > >Did anyone else happen to catch the interview? > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "twc" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bass Strait eddy Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:18:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well spotted, Jane. It is very spectucular! Cheers, Paul Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:01 PM Subject: aus-wx: Bass Strait eddy > Evening again, > > A couple of days ago there was a fascinating eddy over Bass Strait, > which has been captured by various ASWA members who found and made the > images available that appear on the following page....thanks to David & > Robert for finding them. Anyone like to have a punt on the cause???? - > this event was very long lived...... > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/1216eddy.htm > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra pics Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:32:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
I have attached a couple of images of the last couple of days of cells early in their development
 
 
Wednesday (18 December)
 
 
Thursday (19 December)
 
 
 
The next shot is of the massive storm that moved over the Bathurst/Orange area this evening (19/12) - as seen from Canberra.
 
 
Cheers,
 
Patrick
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:38 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Canberra pics

hey guys,
i got some captures aswell just uploaded.
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02

Hi all, just uploaded some pics from today's action, not as good as hoped, but better than nothing.
 
Still drizzling as i type, hopefully more storms tomorrow, but i will be working from 3pm to 12am...
 

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
---------------------------------------------
Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
--------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Storm Piccies Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:38:58 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI all,
 
FINALLY I have a website - well that start of one anyways.
 
Put up some of the piccies (110 alltogether :) ) of last nights severe storm.
 
 
Hope you enjoy  :)
 
 
 
Paul Mossman
NT State ASWA Rep
Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
email: ntstorms at bigpond.com
MSN: ntstorms at hotmail.com
ICQ: 111144666
Mobile: 0401115483
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra pics

Hi all,
 
I have attached a couple of images of the last couple of days of cells early in their development
 
 
Wednesday (18 December)
 
 
Thursday (19 December)
 
 
 
The next shot is of the massive storm that moved over the Bathurst/Orange area this evening (19/12) - as seen from Canberra.
 
 
Cheers,
 
Patrick
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:38 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Canberra pics

hey guys,
i got some captures aswell just uploaded.
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02

Hi all, just uploaded some pics from today's action, not as good as hoped, but better than nothing.
 
Still drizzling as i type, hopefully more storms tomorrow, but i will be working from 3pm to 12am...
 

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
---------------------------------------------
Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
--------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Storm Piccies Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 02:34:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET stuff paul!!!!!

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
---------------------------------------------
Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
--------------------------------------------------------------
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:08 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Storm Piccies

HI all,
 
FINALLY I have a website - well that start of one anyways.
 
Put up some of the piccies (110 alltogether :) ) of last nights severe storm.
 
 
Hope you enjoy  :)
 
 
 
Paul Mossman
NT State ASWA Rep
Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
email: ntstorms at bigpond.com
MSN: ntstorms at hotmail.com
ICQ: 111144666
Mobile: 0401115483
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra pics

Hi all,
 
I have attached a couple of images of the last couple of days of cells early in their development
 
 
Wednesday (18 December)
 
 
Thursday (19 December)
 
 
 
The next shot is of the massive storm that moved over the Bathurst/Orange area this evening (19/12) - as seen from Canberra.
 
 
Cheers,
 
Patrick
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:38 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Canberra pics

hey guys,
i got some captures aswell just uploaded.
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02

Hi all, just uploaded some pics from today's action, not as good as hoped, but better than nothing.
 
Still drizzling as i type, hopefully more storms tomorrow, but i will be working from 3pm to 12am...
 

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
---------------------------------------------
Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
--------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra pics Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 02:35:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Nice Pics  patrick, the last one is basically what i saw during my dinner break at work, was mighty impressed, AND, isn't great...CANBERRA now has its own Weather watch radar, woooooohoooooooooooo

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
---------------------------------------------
Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
--------------------------------------------------------------
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra pics

Hi all,
 
I have attached a couple of images of the last couple of days of cells early in their development
 
 
Wednesday (18 December)
 
 
Thursday (19 December)
 
 
 
The next shot is of the massive storm that moved over the Bathurst/Orange area this evening (19/12) - as seen from Canberra.
 
 
Cheers,
 
Patrick
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:38 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Canberra pics

hey guys,
i got some captures aswell just uploaded.
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02

Hi all, just uploaded some pics from today's action, not as good as hoped, but better than nothing.
 
Still drizzling as i type, hopefully more storms tomorrow, but i will be working from 3pm to 12am...
 

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
---------------------------------------------
Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
--------------------------------------------------------------
X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 06:49:04 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Nice pics!!!! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul, Simon and Patrick et al, The pics posted are quite impressive. This has been an active period for chasing in this past week. Good stuff. Jimmy Deguaar ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Klipsi" To: Subject: aus-wx: good stuff ! Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:22:28 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Good stuff. > Jimmy Deguara I like that expression, "Good stuff", which my friend Jimmy uses so often. ;-) hehehe On his latest post, without even seeing that it was from Jimmy, just as I read "good stuff" I KNEW it was from Jimmy ! God bless Good-stuff-Jimmy ! ;-) Klipsi +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC Weather images needed Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:37:14 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. I am after some bitmaps of various sky/weather conditions for some software I am writing. I would like to use them as tiled backgrounds in my forms etc. all aspects of weather. Stormy, sunny, lightning etc etc etc. Can anyone point me at a good site or be willing to suplly these? They are tiled into the background of the software. I am happy to give credit where credit is due? Regards, Peter -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:34:52 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: good stuff ! X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good stuff, Klipsi! Actually a lot of us Aussies are in the habit of saying, "Good stuff!" It's just that Jimmy remembers to do it when he's writing as well! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Klipsi" To: Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:22:28 +0100 Subject: aus-wx: good stuff ! > >Good stuff. > > Jimmy Deguara > > I like that expression, "Good stuff", which my friend Jimmy uses so > often. > ;-) hehehe > On his latest post, without even seeing that it was from Jimmy, just as > I > read "good stuff" I KNEW it was from Jimmy ! > > God bless Good-stuff-Jimmy ! > > ;-) > > Klipsi > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.11.48.45] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra pics Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:27:46 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2002 02:27:47.0205 (UTC) FILETIME=[627A5B50:01C2A7CF] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

good work patrick, simon - i'm stunned that your last shot patrick was of a storm that far away (bathurst/orange).  like a madman i headed out in the general direction of that one, hoping for a glimpse of overshoot.  without access to radar i estimated it was somewhere near gunning / gundaroo!!!

>From: "Simon Angell"
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>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra pics
>Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 02:35:44 +1100
>
>Nice Pics patrick, the last one is basically what i saw during my dinner break at work, was mighty impressed, AND, isn't great...CANBERRA now has its own Weather watch radar, woooooohoooooooooooo
>
>Cheers
>---------------------------------
>Simon Angell
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>www.canberra-wx.com
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>Australian Severe Weather Association.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Patrick Tobin
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:32 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra pics
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have attached a couple of images of the last couple of days of cells early in their development
>
>
> Wednesday (18 December)
>
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/20021219/DSCF0306.JPG
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/20021219/DSCF0308.JPG
>
> Thursday (19 December)
>
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/20021219/DSCF0310.JPG
>
>
> The next shot is of the massive storm that moved over the Bathurst/Orange area this evening (19/12) - as seen from Canberra.
>
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/20021219/DSCF0313.JPG
>
> Cheers,
>
> Patrick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Baynham
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:38 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Canberra pics
>
>
> hey guys,
> i got some captures aswell just uploaded.
> http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/steve/02121801.jpg
> http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/steve/02121802.jpg
> http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/steve/02121803.jpg
> http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/steve/02121804.jpg
>
>
>
> Steve Baynham
> icq : 26863574
>
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> Homepage
> http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Simon Angell
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:03 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Canberra storms 18th december 02
>
>
> Hi all, just uploaded some pics from today's action, not as good as hoped, but better than nothing.
>
> Still drizzling as i type, hopefully more storms tomorrow, but i will be working from 3pm to 12am...
>
> www.canberra-wx.com/pics/18dec02/
>
> Cheers
> ---------------------------------
> Simon Angell
> Canberra, ACT
> www.canberra-wx.com
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X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:39:10 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: aus-wx: New Perth Record Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Perth Airport has just hit a temp of 43.2C at 11:28am, thats an all time new record for December. The City site got to 40.7C before the seabreaze came in at 10:54am, missing out on its record of 42.3C Temperatures still very hit in the eastern suburbs at 11:30am. Perth Airport 42.6C Pearce 43.2C Jacob +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Perth Record To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 15:24:53 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Perth Airport has just hit a temp of 43.2C at 11:28am, thats an all time > new record for December. > > The City site got to 40.7C before the seabreaze came in at 10:54am, missing > out on its record of 42.3C Temperatures still very hit in the eastern > suburbs at 11:30am. > > Perth Airport 42.6C > Pearce 43.2C > > Jacob > Pearce looks like it's peaked at 44.1, 0.1 short of its record. The change now looks like it's through the Perth metro area. Some of the inland sites could still be worth watching, though - Cunderdin was 42+ at noon and could give 45 a shake. If GASP is to be believed for the early part of next week the new record could be short-lived. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.109.174.211] From: "John Roenfeldt" To: Subject: aus-wx: Storms 21 & 22 November 2002 - Near Perth Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:31:40 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2002 04:31:51.0777 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7C9E510:01C2A7E0] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, I have finally scanned the photos from my last 2 chases on the 21st and 22nd of November. The 21st had Ira and I chasing NE of Perth towards New Norcia, Toodyay and Northam in the morning. early afternoon and I chased that same evening North up to Mogumber to enjoy some better activity and a very nice lightning display (no photos of the lightning) The 22nd I got up early and chased the day alone. For the mornong storms I headed S down towards Williams and ended the day down at Wagin catching a long lasting storm with a nice lowering.. I then drove back N up to Brookton to wait on some afternoon storms to develop. I waited a number of hours for development to start and then chased a storm that turned East for a number of hours and got some good video and photos and another great lowering (photos th_221102-35.jpg - th_221102-38.jpg). I will write up proper reports when I get a chance. http://www.inflowimages.com/Photogallery/photogallery.asp?rec=120 http://www.inflowimages.com/Photogallery/photogallery.asp?rec=150 Enjoy. regards, John Roenfeldt +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:27:08 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: good stuff ! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks for that Klipsi, I feel stuffed :) At least it is better than "Come on" or the snow Jimmy that Rune invented:) Jimmy Deguara At 09:22 PM 19/12/2002 +0100, you wrote: > >Good stuff. > > Jimmy Deguara > >I like that expression, "Good stuff", which my friend Jimmy uses so often. >;-) hehehe >On his latest post, without even seeing that it was from Jimmy, just as I >read "good stuff" I KNEW it was from Jimmy ! > >God bless Good-stuff-Jimmy ! > >;-) > >Klipsi > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ XAntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses via the Connexus Internet Service From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Bass Strait eddy Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 15:43:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A close look at the sat pics, particularly the last two, and one can just make out a couple of much smaller satellite circulations. John. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tuan Phan Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 8:28 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Bass Strait eddy Ok, here is some info about the eddy that may interest some people. I went back and had a closer look at the mslp anals around the time in question with a BoM senior analysis. He actually did the 2 anals previously (00z &06z) and thought the sat pic was very interesting. Basically, at 12z, there was a small circulation as evident by the low cloud but was not analysed due to small scale. King Is obs (1021.2) was paid but Flinders Is (1020.4) was not. Couple of obs on Tas E coast was not paid as well. If anal was 100% kosher, it would have seen the High ridging around Tas and enveloping the very small low. Quite a bit of evidence backing up the presence of low. A ship obs in Bass Strait was partially paid (Pressure was but W'ly wind was not). The ship obs actually gave very good evidence of central location of the circulation. A few obs along the N Tas coast also hinted of a circulation. But the best evidence of circulation was obviously the low cloud on sat pic. It is believed that these small scale features are remnant of a weak front/low/trough. Looking at the quickscat, there was evidence of a weak front (SE of Tas) that was not analysed (due to scale only, of course ;) ). The (not analysed) front is associated with a very weak low (not analysed) just W of NZ (weak evidence due to isobar spacing, winds and other stuff. Very interesting example of a small scale system. That's all we can see on reanalysis of the situation. Tuan -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 22:01 To: Aussie-wx Subject: aus-wx: Bass Strait eddy Evening again, A couple of days ago there was a fascinating eddy over Bass Strait, which has been captured by various ASWA members who found and made the images available that appear on the following page....thanks to David & Robert for finding them. Anyone like to have a punt on the cause???? - this event was very long lived...... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/1216eddy.htm Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. 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Well that last email was late :)
 
We have just come back from our SSC TDU. We are all very tired. Having had storms 7 from 7 days (not including our first day to Moree), we can call it a success, thanks to a nice trough that basically sat in the same spot.
 
The report is up at SSC except for the last day. In the next few days, i will post clickable photos.
 
Thanks
 
dann
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Hi,
 
After two days, we are in Roma. Friday we made moree. Yesterday we covered 1200kms, Lots of CG's, some nice structure and more dead roos than we care to share. For a report got to http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/tdu02_01.
 
dann, james, matt
 

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From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: A SSC TDU Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:16:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
in that case Dann weatherhead
my weather stations was correct then as i have monitored all of the storms in that area , and i'm no where close to roma either .
 
I'm in brisbane qld australia
Stephen galowski
 
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Well that last email was late :)
 
We have just come back from our SSC TDU. We are all very tired. Having had storms 7 from 7 days (not including our first day to Moree), we can call it a success, thanks to a nice trough that basically sat in the same spot.
 
The report is up at SSC except for the last day. In the next few days, i will post clickable photos.
 
Thanks
 
dann
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Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 8:56 AM
Subject: aus-wx: A SSC TDU

Hi,
 
After two days, we are in Roma. Friday we made moree. Yesterday we covered 1200kms, Lots of CG's, some nice structure and more dead roos than we care to share. For a report got to http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/tdu02_01.
 
dann, james, matt
 

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From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:59:59 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Happy Holidays to All my Fine Mates:
         I was wondering: Does any part of Australia (Aus Alps, higher mtns of Tas, etc.) still have Snow  lying about on Christmas Day?
Northern Arkansas may get a little Snow on the 25th, if so it would be their first White Christmas since 1975. We in Mena may only get Snow flurries/sleet :( (OH well, flurries are better than nothing!). Wish I could get down to Aus and catch a few (warm) rays.
Holiday Greetings & Regards
David Powell
 
 
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:01:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
In parts of Tasmnaia it has actually snowed around Christmas. They are near always very small isolated patches left in the highest parts of the snowy mountains in December.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 3:59 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question:

Happy Holidays to All my Fine Mates:
         I was wondering: Does any part of Australia (Aus Alps, higher mtns of Tas, etc.) still have Snow  lying about on Christmas Day?
Northern Arkansas may get a little Snow on the 25th, if so it would be their first White Christmas since 1975. We in Mena may only get Snow flurries/sleet :( (OH well, flurries are better than nothing!). Wish I could get down to Aus and catch a few (warm) rays.
Holiday Greetings & Regards
David Powell
 
 
 

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X-Originating-IP: [203.220.169.246] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Recent MO outbreak - for arky dave etc... Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 18:42:57 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2002 07:42:57.0917 (UTC) FILETIME=[948DC2D0:01C2A8C4] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dave, Nothing to do with your original post but I notice that you're in N AR...how close did the tornadic outbreak get to you? Cheers, Kevin Phyland Wycheproof P-12 College >From: "arky dave" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: >Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:59:59 -0600 > >Happy Holidays to All my Fine Mates: > I was wondering: Does any part of Australia (Aus Alps, higher >mtns of Tas, etc.) still have Snow lying about on Christmas Day? >Northern Arkansas may get a little Snow on the 25th, if so it would be >their first White Christmas since 1975. We in Mena may only get Snow >flurries/sleet :( (OH well, flurries are better than nothing!). Wish I >could get down to Aus and catch a few (warm) rays. >Holiday Greetings & Regards >David Powell > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_eliminateviruses_3mf +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 18:07:26 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Recent MO outbreak - for arky dave etc... From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Recent MO outbreak - for arky dave etc... Hi Kevin.

My (long distance) girlfriend lives in NE Arkansas and speaking to her on the phone this morning, she mentioned that the twisters came within 30 minutes drive of her place, destroying numerous residences before moving over to Mississippi and taking out the Wal-Mart and other stuff.

Her own reports (Mia is a Stormchaser herself thank god) mentioned some incredible winds and hail that they had, the trees around her were literally snapping in half and her backyard looks like a warzone now.

That accompanied by the ferocious Icestorm of a couple weeks ago has rattled her some.
If i remember correctly, there was one death reported in Arkansas from that system and numerous other injuries.

Hope this helps.

*Dale*


on 21/12/2002 17:42, Kevin Phyland at kjphyland at hotmail.com wrote:

Hi Dave,

Nothing to do with your original post but I notice that you're in N AR...how
close did the tornadic outbreak get to you?

Cheers,
Kevin Phyland
Wycheproof P-12 College





>From: "arky dave" <dajapo at voltage.net>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question:
>Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:59:59 -0600
>
>Happy Holidays to All my Fine Mates:
>          I was wondering: Does any part of Australia (Aus Alps, higher
>mtns of Tas, etc.) still have Snow  lying about on Christmas Day?
>Northern Arkansas may get a little Snow on the 25th, if so it would be
>their first White Christmas since 1975. We in Mena may only get Snow
>flurries/sleet :( (OH well, flurries are better than nothing!). Wish I
>could get down to Aus and catch a few (warm) rays.
>Holiday Greetings & Regards
>David Powell
>
>


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From: "David James Powell" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Recent MO outbreak - for arky dave etc... X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.00 X-IPAddress: 208.189.4.49 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 02:59:01 -0600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Kevin: I'm actually in Western Arkansas, latitude-wise Mena is a little south of Little Rock and we're 8MI(12.8km) as-the-crow-flies East of the Oklahoma State line. We were in a Tornado Watch until 9P.M. that night. Nothing happened here except some nasty looking clouds and a few sprinkles (thank GOD). I guess the closest damage to us would be near the Little Rock area, which (as-the crow flies) is about 100MI(161Km) to our East-Northeast. Although nothing happened here, the potential was there--I'm thankful it was a Pacific cold front (less temp contrast), if it had've been a Canadian/Polar/Arctic front, the outbreak might've been much worse. (Mabye the mountains around us do keep some bad weather away!?!) Hopefully this'll be the last severe weather outbreak for awhile(at least until Spring!) Regards & C-Ya'll Later...off to bed..zzzzzz... David (going to dream of copious SNOW) Powell > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > > Hi Kevin. > > My (long distance) girlfriend lives in NE Arkansas and speaking to her on > the phone this morning, she mentioned that the twisters came within 30 > minutes drive of her place, destroying numerous residences before moving > over to Mississippi and taking out the Wal-Mart and other stuff. > > Her own reports (Mia is a Stormchaser herself thank god) mentioned some > incredible winds and hail that they had, the trees around her were literally > snapping in half and her backyard looks like a warzone now. > > That accompanied by the ferocious Icestorm of a couple weeks ago has rattled > her some. > If i remember correctly, there was one death reported in Arkansas from that > system and numerous other injuries. > > Hope this helps. > > *Dale* > > > on 21/12/2002 17:42, Kevin Phyland at kjphyland at hotmail.com wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > Nothing to do with your original post but I notice that you're in N AR...how > close did the tornadic outbreak get to you? > > Cheers, > Kevin Phyland > Wycheproof P-12 College > > > > > > >From: "arky dave" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: > >Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: > >Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:59:59 -0600 > > > >Happy Holidays to All my Fine Mates: > > I was wondering: Does any part of Australia (Aus Alps, higher > >mtns of Tas, etc.) still have Snow lying about on Christmas Day? > >Northern Arkansas may get a little Snow on the 25th, if so it would be > >their first White Christmas since 1975. We in Mena may only get Snow > >flurries/sleet :( (OH well, flurries are better than nothing!). Wish I > >could get down to Aus and catch a few (warm) rays. > >Holiday Greetings & Regards > >David Powell > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ _______________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 3 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/? page=features/virus&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7 474&S > U= > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi- bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_eliminatevi > ruses_3mf > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------- ----------------------- > > > > > -- Sent using Voltage Net Webmail http://www.voltage.net/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 00:13:44 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 05:01 PM 21/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >In parts of Tasmnaia it has actually snowed around Christmas. They are >near always very small isolated patches left in the highest parts of the >snowy mountains in December. I have seen snow actually falling (just a few flakes) in central Victoria in the second week of December during a cold snap. Only ever seen that once though in my life. The White Christmas jokes were flying around the town that year! :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.221.137.202] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 00:57:26 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2002 13:57:26.0599 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4EE8D70:01C2A8F8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, I'm pretty sure that Fall's Creek etc.. have had white Christmases before... if New Year's Eve about five or so years ago was anything to go by...(had to wear a jumper in the backyard and teeth chattering)...it's possible that they may even have had a white New Year! Cheers, Kevin Phyland. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 08:39:40 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some sveral years ago I spent the week between Xmas and Newyear at Provedence Caravan Park at Eucumbene fishing. The surrounding mountains had snow caps on them and in fact tragically an elderly couple fell out of a boat into the lake and one perished from hypothermia in a matter of minutes. However I have no fear of having to buy a snow shovel here in Sutton NSW (Just outside Canberra) just yet. My weather station reported a high of 39 celcius yesterday..... Funny isn't it with tradition. My father was a 'MANS MAN' and yet in my parents 30 years of marraige before my father surcumbed to cancer, my mother never cooked a xmas dinner. My father grew up during the depresion without much luxuries and a great deal of food and therefore learnt to like all food available. So in my home town of Numurkah in North Victoria, during a 45 degree xmas day, my father wood ark up the wood stove in the kitchen and cook every traditional roast meat and vege available and we would sit down to a hot xmas lunch. My memories of my 6'3", 20 stone (Huge man who used to hit cricket balls out of the ground) father in his white sweat soaked singlet with a tea towl draped over his shoulder and sweat pouring off his forehead standing over the meat carving it comes flooding back. He has taught me something. A cold xmas dinner is the way to go. this year I am sitting on a beach on the south coast eating sea food. No hot dinner for me. I wonder if it will snow at the beach for me? Happy Xmas all.... -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Phyland [mailto:kjphyland at hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 22 December 2002 12:57 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: Hi every1, I'm pretty sure that Fall's Creek etc.. have had white Christmases before... if New Year's Eve about five or so years ago was anything to go by...(had to wear a jumper in the backyard and teeth chattering)...it's possible that they may even have had a white New Year! Cheers, Kevin Phyland. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=747 4&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspampr otection_3mf +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: aus-wx: Snow at the beach Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 11:47:19 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > I wonder if it will snow at the beach for me? I can't recall ever reading of snow falling at a beach. Anyone correct me on this? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter May" To: Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 10:39 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: > Some sveral years ago I spent the week between Xmas and Newyear at > Provedence Caravan Park at Eucumbene fishing. The surrounding mountains had > snow caps on them and in fact tragically an elderly couple fell out of a > boat into the lake and one perished from hypothermia in a matter of minutes. > > However I have no fear of having to buy a snow shovel here in Sutton NSW > (Just outside Canberra) just yet. My weather station reported a high of 39 > celcius yesterday..... > > > Funny isn't it with tradition. My father was a 'MANS MAN' and yet in my > parents 30 years of marraige before my father surcumbed to cancer, my mother > never cooked a xmas dinner. My father grew up during the depresion without > much luxuries and a great deal of food and therefore learnt to like all food > available. So in my home town of Numurkah in North Victoria, during a 45 > degree xmas day, my father wood ark up the wood stove in the kitchen and > cook every traditional roast meat and vege available and we would sit down > to a hot xmas lunch. My memories of my 6'3", 20 stone (Huge man who used to > hit cricket balls out of the ground) father in his white sweat soaked > singlet with a tea towl draped over his shoulder and sweat pouring off his > forehead standing over the meat carving it comes flooding back. > > He has taught me something. A cold xmas dinner is the way to go. this year I > am sitting on a beach on the south coast eating sea food. No hot dinner for > me. I wonder if it will snow at the beach for me? > > Happy Xmas all.... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Phyland [mailto:kjphyland at hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, 22 December 2002 12:57 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: > > > Hi every1, > > I'm pretty sure that Fall's Creek etc.. have had white Christmases before... > > if New Year's Eve about five or so years ago was anything to go by...(had to > > wear a jumper in the backyard and teeth chattering)...it's possible that > they may even have had a white New Year! > > Cheers, > Kevin Phyland. > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=747 > 4&SU= > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspampr > otection_3mf > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Chas Osborn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow at the beach Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 09:59:53 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Ken If I recall right, snow was falling at one of the beaches near Hobart in this last year. Not settling. It was a television report! Chas Kalumburu WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Ring" To: Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 6:47 AM Subject: aus-wx: Snow at the beach > > I wonder if it will snow at the beach for me? > I can't recall ever reading of snow falling at a beach. Anyone correct me on > this? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter May" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 10:39 AM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: > > > > Some sveral years ago I spent the week between Xmas and Newyear at > > Provedence Caravan Park at Eucumbene fishing. The surrounding mountains > had > > snow caps on them and in fact tragically an elderly couple fell out of a > > boat into the lake and one perished from hypothermia in a matter of > minutes. > > > > However I have no fear of having to buy a snow shovel here in Sutton NSW > > (Just outside Canberra) just yet. My weather station reported a high of 39 > > celcius yesterday..... > > > > > > Funny isn't it with tradition. My father was a 'MANS MAN' and yet in my > > parents 30 years of marraige before my father surcumbed to cancer, my > mother > > never cooked a xmas dinner. My father grew up during the depresion without > > much luxuries and a great deal of food and therefore learnt to like all > food > > available. So in my home town of Numurkah in North Victoria, during a 45 > > degree xmas day, my father wood ark up the wood stove in the kitchen and > > cook every traditional roast meat and vege available and we would sit down > > to a hot xmas lunch. My memories of my 6'3", 20 stone (Huge man who used > to > > hit cricket balls out of the ground) father in his white sweat soaked > > singlet with a tea towl draped over his shoulder and sweat pouring off his > > forehead standing over the meat carving it comes flooding back. > > > > He has taught me something. A cold xmas dinner is the way to go. this year > I > > am sitting on a beach on the south coast eating sea food. No hot dinner > for > > me. I wonder if it will snow at the beach for me? > > > > Happy Xmas all.... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Phyland [mailto:kjphyland at hotmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, 22 December 2002 12:57 AM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: > > > > > > Hi every1, > > > > I'm pretty sure that Fall's Creek etc.. have had white Christmases > before... > > > > if New Year's Eve about five or so years ago was anything to go by...(had > to > > > > wear a jumper in the backyard and teeth chattering)...it's possible that > > they may even have had a white New Year! > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin Phyland. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=747 > > 4&SU= > > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspampr > > otection_3mf > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 02:32:45 -0600 From: IAIN T JOHNSTONE Subject: Re: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Cc: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.01 (built Sep 10 2002) X-Accept-Language: en Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sitting here as I am in Wisconsin, where it's -5C, makes me think back to Perth at Christmas. My mum would always cook a taditional Christmas dinner, turkey and all. I still love that sort of thing, but I have to say that one time that I was in SAust at Chrissie, I had Ceviche (raw whiting "cooked" by marinating in lemon juice) for a starter, followed by Lobster for the main course. Now *that* was an Aussie Christmas!! Bloody beautiful! Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter May Date: Saturday, December 21, 2002 3:39 pm Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: > Some sveral years ago I spent the week between Xmas and Newyear at > Provedence Caravan Park at Eucumbene fishing. The surrounding > mountains had > snow caps on them and in fact tragically an elderly couple fell > out of a > boat into the lake and one perished from hypothermia in a matter > of minutes. > > However I have no fear of having to buy a snow shovel here in > Sutton NSW > (Just outside Canberra) just yet. My weather station reported a > high of 39 > celcius yesterday..... > > > Funny isn't it with tradition. My father was a 'MANS MAN' and yet > in my > parents 30 years of marraige before my father surcumbed to cancer, > my mother > never cooked a xmas dinner. My father grew up during the depresion > withoutmuch luxuries and a great deal of food and therefore learnt > to like all food > available. So in my home town of Numurkah in North Victoria, > during a 45 > degree xmas day, my father wood ark up the wood stove in the > kitchen and > cook every traditional roast meat and vege available and we would > sit down > to a hot xmas lunch. My memories of my 6'3", 20 stone (Huge man > who used to > hit cricket balls out of the ground) father in his white sweat soaked > singlet with a tea towl draped over his shoulder and sweat pouring > off his > forehead standing over the meat carving it comes flooding back. > > He has taught me something. A cold xmas dinner is the way to go. > this year I > am sitting on a beach on the south coast eating sea food. No hot > dinner for > me. I wonder if it will snow at the beach for me? > > Happy Xmas all.... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Phyland [kjphyland at hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, 22 December 2002 12:57 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: > > > Hi every1, > > I'm pretty sure that Fall's Creek etc.. have had white Christmases > before... > if New Year's Eve about five or so years ago was anything to go > by...(had to > > wear a jumper in the backyard and teeth chattering)...it's > possible that > they may even have had a white New Year! > > Cheers, > Kevin Phyland. > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=747 > 4&SU= > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi- > bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > +-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------- > ----- > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > +-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------- > ----- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "dann weatherhead" To: Subject: aus-wx: SSC TDU Report Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 19:47:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi!
 
The final report of the Sydney Storm Chasers TDU has been uploaded. All of the photo's have also been linked to larger images.
 
A great time was had by all. We got 7 days of storms from 7 days chasing. The highlight was definately the evening of the 18th, when all hell broke loose around Dubbo.  
 
 
 
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 19:08:06 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SSC TDU Report Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dann, Wow - what AWESOME and SPECTACULAR photos!!! Not just the content, but some of the techniques and the quality of the photos is just first class!!! Congratulations on such a great chase! I was very sorry to miss not going out - even more so looking at the photos, but I'm glad you guys had a great time out there!! AC > dann weatherhead wrote: > > Hi! > > The final report of the Sydney Storm Chasers TDU has been uploaded. > All of the photo's have also been linked to larger images. > > A great time was had by all. We got 7 days of storms from 7 days > chasing. The highlight was definately the evening of the 18th, when > all hell broke loose around Dubbo. > > http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/tdu02_01.htm > http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/tdu02_02.htm > > www.sydneystormchasers.com > > dann > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/2002 -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SSC TDU Report Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 19:26:53 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com those shots Dann are great in respect to the south west of Qld Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 7:08 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: SSC TDU Report > Hi Dann, > > Wow - what AWESOME and SPECTACULAR photos!!! Not just the content, but > some of the techniques and the quality of the photos is just first > class!!! Congratulations on such a great chase! I was very sorry to miss > not going out - even more so looking at the photos, but I'm glad you > guys had a great time out there!! > > AC > > > dann weatherhead wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > The final report of the Sydney Storm Chasers TDU has been uploaded. > > All of the photo's have also been linked to larger images. > > > > A great time was had by all. We got 7 days of storms from 7 days > > chasing. The highlight was definately the evening of the 18th, when > > all hell broke loose around Dubbo. > > > > http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/tdu02_01.htm > > http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/tdu02_02.htm > > > > www.sydneystormchasers.com > > > > dann > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/2002 > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Bass Strait eddy Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 22:42:51 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some great- VERY hi-res True Colour captures of the eddy- I posted on WZ but not here. . . .SORRY!!! ---------------------------------------- A fascinating cloud formation in bass strait- as captured by the MODIS instrument on the Tera Satellite yesterday morning. These were captured 16/12/02 at ~10:15am AEST (00:15UTC) Now I guess it is a sea mist- but it looks like a mini cyclone just west of king Island!? Small: http://www.trapdoor.com.au/weather/smallbass-strt-clouds-161202.jpg Medium version here (~300kb): http://www.trapdoor.com.au/weather/medbass-strt-clouds-161202.jpg Large version ( at 250m resolution ~1.3Mb): http://www.trapdoor.com.au/weather/bass-strt-clouds-161202.jpg And a few hors later . . . acquired by AQUA at ~2pm 16/12/02 Small: http://www.trapdoor.com.au/weather/smallbass-strt-clouds-161202pm.jpg Large image (~250kb at 250m resolution) http://www.trapdoor.com.au/weather/bass-strt-clouds-161202pm.jpg James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of twc Sent: Thursday, 19 December 2002 6:18 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bass Strait eddy Well spotted, Jane. It is very spectucular! Cheers, Paul Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:01 PM Subject: aus-wx: Bass Strait eddy > Evening again, > > A couple of days ago there was a fascinating eddy over Bass Strait, > which has been captured by various ASWA members who found and made the > images available that appear on the following page....thanks to David & > Robert for finding them. Anyone like to have a punt on the cause???? - > this event was very long lived...... > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/1216eddy.htm > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: aus-wx: low in the corral sea Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:21:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Whats the chance for this low to turn into a tropical cyclone . can someone e-mail me back we are trying to locat it on the cyclone map.1006 hpa near 14S/167E
 
Regards
Michael

From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: aus-wx: Merry Christmas Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:28:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, Wishing everyone on the aus-wx list and their families and friends a very Merry Christmas and a Happy (and safe) New Year. Here's hoping for a peaceful Christmas for all...and hope the storms are good for those with troughs lurking about (please post many pics for those of us who will be watching from a distance). Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky and Weather www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward.*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 15:55:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Christmas Wishes to Everyone from us as well. We hope that everyone has a wonderful Christmas and a happy and prosperous 2003. The Mayos ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: aus-wx: Merry Christmas > Morning all, > > Wishing everyone on the aus-wx list and their families and friends a very > Merry Christmas and a Happy (and safe) New Year. > > Here's hoping for a peaceful Christmas for all...and hope the storms are > good for those with troughs lurking about (please post many pics for those > of us who will be watching from a distance). > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky and Weather > www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward.*** > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Xmas Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:16:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Merry Christmas and best wishes to everyone tomorrow. (Tomorrow for the Aussies anyway).
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:43:01 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, Dad and I going to say: A very merry christmas and a very happy new year to everyone. We are hoping for better year and yet we would look forward for better year of weather activity too. I hope La nina will eat el nino out. Hehehe. Should be fun to sit back and watch the entertainment of la nina chasing the el nino to eat it out. Sorry I was a bit silly. :) Ha! Regard Nathan and Phillip Thompson. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 8:58 AM Subject: aus-wx: Merry Christmas > Morning all, > > Wishing everyone on the aus-wx list and their families and friends a very > Merry Christmas and a Happy (and safe) New Year. > > Here's hoping for a peaceful Christmas for all...and hope the storms are > good for those with troughs lurking about (please post many pics for those > of us who will be watching from a distance). > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky and Weather > www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward.*** > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:22:04 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Xmas From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Indeed a very merry (not too merry ;-) christmas to you all from myself and the family here. Please dont drink and drive, there is enough carnage on the roads already without adding to it. I sincerely hope you all enjoy yourselves, im off for a chicken and champagne brekkie in the morning and am looking forward to it. Best wishes and regards. Dale (where we currently have one massive cell and an explosion of developing cells :-))))))))) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: low in the corral sea Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:26:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
i will check what the wmo has on it ,
noaa
Stephen
wicen brisbane
 
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Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 7:21 PM
Subject: aus-wx: low in the corral sea

Whats the chance for this low to turn into a tropical cyclone . can someone e-mail me back we are trying to locat it on the cyclone map.1006 hpa near 14S/167E
 
Regards
Michael

X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 18:09:23 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:28 AM 24/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Morning all, > >Wishing everyone on the aus-wx list and their families and friends a very >Merry Christmas and a Happy (and safe) New Year. > >Here's hoping for a peaceful Christmas for all...and hope the storms are >good for those with troughs lurking about (please post many pics for those >of us who will be watching from a distance). Dear Santa. I have just bought a digital camera and need something to take photos of. Can you please send me a photogenic supercell for Christmas, so I can try it out. P.S. I have been a very good boy this year... ;-) Seriously, hope everyone's Christmas is a good one. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 18:14:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Merry Christmas to all on the list as well. Santa has delivered a few small goodies for the Christmas stocking this afternoon. The cells in the pics below resulted in a few rumbles.... http://www.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/DSCF0315.JPG http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/DSCF0315.JPG http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/DSCF0315.JPG http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/DSCF0315.JPG Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: aus-wx: Merry Christmas > Morning all, > > Wishing everyone on the aus-wx list and their families and friends a very > Merry Christmas and a Happy (and safe) New Year. > > Here's hoping for a peaceful Christmas for all...and hope the storms are > good for those with troughs lurking about (please post many pics for those > of us who will be watching from a distance). > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky and Weather > www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward.*** > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas - links to Canberra pics Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 18:19:00 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Oops...sorry the last email escaped from my computer before it should. The intended links are below: The cells in the pics below resulted in a few rumbles in the Canberra suburbs.... http://www.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/DSCF0315.JPG the passengers on this flight would have got some nice views... http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/DSCF0316.JPG http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/DSCF0317.JPG http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/DSCF0318.JPG http://www.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/DSCF0319.JPG http://www.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/DSCF0320.JPG Patrick +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: Holiday Greetings from the US Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 02:09:08 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
To All my Wonderful Aussie Mates:
I heartily wish All ya'll a Grand Christmas and Safe/Happy & Prosperous 2003.
I thank everyone for your very interesting information and helpful answers and mucho Thanks for putting up with my somewhat incessant questions.
I'm relatively new to the Wx-list & Weatherzone but I surely enjoy myself greatly there; I truly feel at home there with all my great Aus friends. Thanks for making my day--every day.
With Regards/Best Wishes ***Ho Ho Ho, ya'll want supercells/ I want SNOW***
God Bless
Yours
David Powell :)
From: "peter tristram" To: Subject: aus-wx: good rain Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 19:23:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some good storms in the Coffs area - my mum tipped 120mm out of her gauge at Toormina, near Sawtell - best 1 hr fall for years, she said. I rang her after the radar showed a cell over her area for an hour or so. She said the lightning was awesome with prolonged CGs. Only 15mm at Repton - the storm cells went along the range moving NE so the Bellinger Valley missed out this time...but...it's still raining! Merry Xmas all. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/12/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.28.69.151] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: good rain Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:31:43 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2002 09:31:43.0305 (UTC) FILETIME=[453A3390:01C2AB2F] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Whoa! That sounds like a pretty localised downpour down there in Toormina! Considering there was 'only' 40 odd mm at the Coffs BoM (as you may already know, about 7km north of Sawtell/Toormina). Wouldn't be surprised at some flash flooding in the area also! David Sercombe Coffs Harbour NE NSW From: "peter tristram" Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com To: Subject: aus-wx: good rain Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 19:23:38 +1100 Some good storms in the Coffs area - my mum tipped 120mm out of her gauge at Toormina, near Sawtell - best 1 hr fall for years, she said. I rang her after the radar showed a cell over her area for an hour or so. She said the lightning was awesome with prolonged CGs. Only 15mm at Repton - the storm cells went along the range moving NE so the Bellinger Valley missed out this time...but...it's still raining! Merry Xmas all. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/12/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3mf +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "macdonald" To: Subject: aus-wx: MERRY CHRISTMAS & NEW YEAR Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 22:02:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Everyone on the list,
I would like to wish you all the very best for Christmas and the New Year.
Santa brought me a gift of some marble sized hail...it was not enough to give a ground cover....ran out of damn film, and later realised we had some in the draw. It was a great storm got some shots from the roof, and there were a few Cgs around while we were there. The storm started with light rain, and then wind gusts and marble sized hail, it was so cool to watch the hail bouncing on the lawn.. had 24mm.
 
I live at Tallai, a suburb on the Gold Coast.
Takecare, have a good one
cheers
Sam
GUYRA & TALLAI WEATHER
 
 
User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 21:06:32 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas
on 24/12/2002 17:09, Tony Langdon (VK3JED) at vk3jed-1 at optusnet.com.au wrote:

Dear Santa.  I have just bought a digital camera and need something to take
photos of.  Can you please send me a photogenic supercell for Christmas, so
I can try it out.




Sorry Tony all, we stole them for ourselves today.. be a good boy and you might get one next year ;-)


Signed.
The Dale Santa
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 22:25:09 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:06 PM 24/12/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Sorry Tony all, we stole them for ourselves today.. be a good boy and you >might get one next year ;-) Santa F***** Claus, where's me F****** storm? ;-P LOL 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 22:01:03 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas *spits his drink out for the 3rd time tonight and slaps tony round with a large trout*
LOOOL merry xmas mate :-)


on 24/12/2002 21:25, Tony Langdon (VK3JED) at vk3jed-1 at optusnet.com.au wrote:

At 09:06 PM 24/12/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>Sorry Tony all, we stole them for ourselves today.. be a good boy and you
>might get one next year ;-)

Santa F***** Claus, where's me F****** storm? ;-P

LOL

73 de Tony, VK3JED
http://vkradio.com

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From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: aus-wx: To All- A Very Merry Christmas, and a Happy and safe New-Year Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 23:10:47 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

I am still fairly new to this list, but here at 11:07pm Christmas eve, I would like to wish all love and friendship during this holiday season.

 

I hope you all have a safe and joyous season, spent with family and friends.

 

CHEERS to all!

 

James

 

 

James Holbeach

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Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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From: "John Graham" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Merry Xmas Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 23:56:21 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just a short note to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year....don't get toooooo drunk!!!!!!!! John from Ballina ____________________________________________________________ John Graham gorzzz at d2.net.au or gorzzz at yahoo.com Icq 25440353 Member of The Australian Severe Weather Assoc. ASWA Homepage http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ Snail Mail: P.O. Box 1072 Ballina 2478 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 23:56:58 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 10:01 PM 24/12/2002 +1000, you wrote: >*spits his drink out for the 3rd time tonight and slaps tony round with a >large trout* >LOOOL merry xmas mate :-) You too. :-) Have a good one... two if you're able ;) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: dencot1 at aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:11:44 EST Subject: Re: aus-wx: To All- A Very Merry Christmas, and a Happy and safe New-Year To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows AU sub 10501 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Merry Christmas to all on the list and thier loved ones .

Dennis
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 23:34:13 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: To All- A Very Merry Christmas, and a Happy and safe New-Year X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I shall echo everyone else's sentiments and wish you all a very blessed Christmas from Hong Kong where the temperature is predicted to fall steadily to 14 on Christmas Day and to 9 on Boxing Day and remain at 9 on 27th. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: dencot1 at aol.com To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:11:44 EST Subject: Re: aus-wx: To All- A Very Merry Christmas, and a Happy and safe New-Year > Merry Christmas to all on the list and thier loved ones . > > Dennis > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 23:56:45 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: low in the corral sea X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com RSMC Nadi Tropical Cyclone Centre has numbered it as 04F on their site but is predicting low probability of a TC forming in the next 36 hours. JTWC has defined the area as "poor" in their ABPW. No-one else seems to be taking much notice of it. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Michael Wright" To: Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:21:34 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: low in the corral sea > Whats the chance for this low to turn into a tropical cyclone . can > someone e-mail me back we are trying to locat it on the cyclone > map.1006 hpa near 14S/167E > > Regards > Michael > . > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Merry Christmas Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 02:55:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com And to all from me also, and Santa was very kind to us this evening, with a vast array of storm activity over most parts of SEQ for about 5 hrs or so. CG rates on Energex Lightning tracker up to 390 per 5 mins... John. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Xmas Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 05:27:00 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thankx Bussy, and merry xmas all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Cheers (from a drunk Simon - 5:26am)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Xmas

Merry Christmas and best wishes to everyone tomorrow. (Tomorrow for the Aussies anyway).
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: good rain Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 06:47:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Rain? 120mm? What is all this stuff? CG's? Bare dust here and that's all :-( Merry Xmas all. ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter tristram" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: aus-wx: good rain > Some good storms in the Coffs area - my mum tipped 120mm out of her gauge at > Toormina, near Sawtell - best 1 hr fall for years, she said. I rang her > after the radar showed a cell over her area for an hour or so. She said the > lightning was awesome with prolonged CGs. Only 15mm at Repton - the storm > cells went along the range moving NE so the Bellinger Valley missed out this > time...but...it's still raining! > > Merry Xmas all. > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/12/2002 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 06:48:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Same place as your bike. Sorry. There's a joke there for those who know it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 10:25 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas > At 09:06 PM 24/12/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >Sorry Tony all, we stole them for ourselves today.. be a good boy and you > >might get one next year ;-) > > Santa F***** Claus, where's me F****** storm? ;-P > > LOL > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vkradio.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Xmas Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 06:51:56 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hehe. Xmas has come early......
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Xmas

Thankx Bussy, and merry xmas all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Cheers (from a drunk Simon - 5:26am)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Xmas

Merry Christmas and best wishes to everyone tomorrow. (Tomorrow for the Aussies anyway).
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 07:20:10 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: 3.0 X-CNT: ; To: "weather mailing list" Subject: aus-wx: chrissy Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
 
HAPPY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE !!!!
 
richard
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Embedded Content: IMSTP1.gif: 00000001,213ae9d6,00000000,00000000 X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 09:25:06 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: aus-wx: storms 24/12 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, What a storm in the Lismore area yesterday!! Best structure I have seen since the Casino HP (17/1/01), but the lightning was better than anything I can remember !! Frequent pulsating stuff coming out of a green sky with huge guster. Dave Ellem and I were mainly situated around Coraki (10km S of Lismore) as the storm passed, and I thought we were going to get slammed by large hail, but that proved to be the only thing this storm didn't produce. Incredible rainfall, and a few small hail stones, with strong winds and flangs galore. It was quite freaky at times, though luckily we did not encounter the violent winds that have caused damage across the region. regards, Michael =================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ =================================================================== From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: low in the corral sea Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 08:39:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
to me Michael and list
that the low you are talking about now has some
organizsation on it
this is according to the picture from gms - 5
 
Stephen Galowski
Wicen
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 7:21 PM
Subject: aus-wx: low in the corral sea

Whats the chance for this low to turn into a tropical cyclone . can someone e-mail me back we are trying to locat it on the cyclone map.1006 hpa near 14S/167E
 
Regards
Michael

From: "peter tristram" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: good rain Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 11:21:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes David, there was some flooding - my mum recorded another 10mm to make 130mm, 30mm here at Repton in the end. Gleniffer had over 100mm as well. My son went to a party near Sawtell and he couldn't get out of his car for half an hour as the road was flooded and when the downpoor finally ended his mate's garage was under water. Mum tells me Bonville copped it too - it looked good on the radar, but unlike further north no hail or serious wind. People might need to dust off their lawnmowers now - the Coffs/Sawtell area was unbelievably dry missing most of the recent rain. Woopie didn't get much though. Another 300mm would do the trick! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Sercombe" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: good rain > Whoa! That sounds like a pretty localised downpour down there in Toormina! > Considering there was 'only' 40 odd mm at the Coffs BoM (as you may already > know, about 7km north of Sawtell/Toormina). Wouldn't be surprised at some > flash flooding in the area also! > > David Sercombe > > Coffs Harbour NE NSW > > From: "peter tristram" > Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > To: > Subject: aus-wx: good rain > Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 19:23:38 +1100 > > Some good storms in the Coffs area - my mum tipped 120mm out of her gauge at > Toormina, near Sawtell - best 1 hr fall for years, she said. I rang her > after the radar showed a cell over her area for an hour or so. She said the > lightning was awesome with prolonged CGs. Only 15mm at Repton - the storm > cells went along the range moving NE so the Bellinger Valley missed out this > time...but...it's still raining! > > Merry Xmas all. > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/12/2002 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&D I=7474&SU= > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3 mf > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/12/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Low in the Coral Sea Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 11:28:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This puts it in some perspective. Too early yet for mainland Oz?
IDN10008
NORFOLK ISLAND FORECAST
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 5:00am on Wednesday the 25th of December 2002
For Wednesday

SITUATION:     
A High northeast of New Zealand is moving slowly further east. A trough
near New Caledonia is deepening and a Low is developing south of New
Caledonia, expected to move southward, passing to the near west of Norfolk
Island later today, then is expected to be captured by a front crossing New
Zealand during Thursday. A High currently in Bight will move into the
western Tasman Sea later in the week in the wake of the Low and trough.

FORECAST:
Rain with some moderate or heavy falls, but easing to showers tonight.
Northeast wind 15/20 knots, strengthening to 20/30 knots during today, then
moderating and tending north to northwest 15/20 knots later today.   
Moderate sea rising to rough during today, then abating to moderate again
later today. 
Moderate northeast swell.

PRECIS:  Rain.
Max:  24
Thursday   A few showers. N/NW wind turning SE.
Min:  19  Max:  24
Friday     A shower or two. E/SE wind. 
Min:  19  Max:  23
Saturday   A shower or two. E/SE wind. 
Min:  18  Max:  23    
Keith Barnett
Weather fanatic and classical musician
Website: http://www.wthrman.com
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From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: tropical depression Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 13:47:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Tropical Disturbance Summary For area Equator to 25S, 160E to 120W
issued from RSMC NADI Dec 24/2333 UTC 2002 UTC.

TROPICAL DEPRESSION 04F [1007 HPA] NEAR 09S 180 AT 242100 UTC MOVING WEST 05
KNOTS. 
POSITION POOR AND BASED ON SYNOPTIC REPORTS AND VIS IMAGERY. THE SYSTEM IS HAS
PICKED UP CONVECTION AROUND THE CENTRE IN THE LAST 24 HOURS. 04F IS LOCATED
UNDER 25 KNOTS WESTERLY FLOW, NORTH OF THE OUTFLOW ALOFT [250 HPA].   

ALL GLOBAL MODELS HAVE CAPTURED THE SYSTEM AND THE AVN MODEL SHOWS STRONG
DEVELOPMENT WHILE MOVING IT WESTWARDS AND THEN SOUTHEAST. OTHER GLOBAL MODELS
MOVE THE SYSTEM WESTWARDS WITHOUT ANY SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT.

THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS SYSTEM TO DEVELOP INTO A TROPICAL CYCLONE IN THE NEXT 24
TO 36 HOURS IS LOW.  

NO OTHER SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL DISTURBANCES ANALYSED OR FORECAST IN THE AREA.

   
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 16:51:38 +1100 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: good rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Peter... 45 mm in Coffs and 37 mm in North Coffs. Gleniffer to the north of Bellingen had 115 mm and Crystal Creek (in the Promised Land area nearby 95 mm) Don White peter tristram wrote: > > Some good storms in the Coffs area - my mum tipped 120mm out of her gauge at > Toormina, near Sawtell - best 1 hr fall for years, she said. I rang her > after the radar showed a cell over her area for an hour or so. She said the > lightning was awesome with prolonged CGs. Only 15mm at Repton - the storm > cells went along the range moving NE so the Bellinger Valley missed out this > time...but...it's still raining! > > Merry Xmas all. > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/12/2002 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 14:15:21 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: low in the corral sea X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have just received an e-mail from JTWC saying that they intend to issue a TCFA within the next few hours. FMS has already called it Tropical Depression 04F. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "stephen galowski" To: Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 08:39:51 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: low in the corral sea > to me Michael and list > that the low you are talking about now has some > organizsation on it > this is according to the picture from gms - 5 > http://marlin.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/globehlast.gif > > Stephen Galowski > Wicen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael Wright > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 7:21 PM > Subject: aus-wx: low in the corral sea > > > Whats the chance for this low to turn into a tropical cyclone . can > someone e-mail me back we are trying to locat it on the cyclone > map.1006 hpa near 14S/167E > > Regards > Michael > . > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 14:37:21 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I remember a white Christmas at Buninyong, near Ballarat, sometime in the late sixties. It was absolutely freezing while the kids were all opening their presents and someone looked out the window mid-morning and it was snowing. Presents got left behind and we all raced out onto the old croquet green next door and had a great snowball fight! After that, the motorbikes were hauled out of the shed and we had a ball doing doughnuts in the snow. It was probably 1967 but I might have missed it by one either way. My memory isn't as good as it was when I was younger! Carl, you were there that day: can you figure out what year it was. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 00:57:26 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: > Hi every1, > > I'm pretty sure that Fall's Creek etc.. have had white Christmases > before... > > if New Year's Eve about five or so years ago was anything to go > by...(had to > wear a jumper in the backyard and teeth chattering)...it's possible > that > they may even have had a white New Year! > > Cheers, > Kevin Phyland. > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&D > I=7474&SU= > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smarts > pamprotection_3mf > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Way, way off topic but... Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:51:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This is way, way off topic but I just had to share it. My Mum and Dad got a bird bath for Christmas made from cast iron. It had to be constructed as it was in pieces. Instructions read - Do Not wash or tumble dry or allow to remain wet!!!
Serious!!!
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:25:35 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: Subject: aus-wx: Unusual WX situation in HK at the moment X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At present, the HKO has two weather warnings hoisted at once: 1. The Very Cold Weather Warning - means temps will fall below 10 before the night is out. 2. The Yellow Fire Danger Warning - means fire danger around the territory is Very High. Aussies, especially, usually don't equate very low temperatures with fire warnings, but the countryside here is tinder dry during our winter, and there will be very low humidity and Force 6 winds before the predicted rain arrives. The humidity will later climb to 80% so they will probably lower the Fire Warning when that happens. I expect the Strong Monsoon Signal might have to be hoisted during the night. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 22:04:55 +1100 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Phil.. I think the year might have been 1968. Boxing Day 1968 in Canberra the maximum temp was 12.7 degrees and this remains today as the coldest December day in the city's history. Snow fell in the Snowies and in Central Tasmania - no reports of snow at lower level in Victoria but Hobart also had their coldest Boxing Day evenr - max of 13.2. I was in Perisher Valley for New Year's Eve... patchy snow lay on the ground when we arrived and that night another SW/S change moved through covering the ground with 2-3 inches. Don White Phil Smith wrote: > > I remember a white Christmas at Buninyong, near Ballarat, sometime in the > late sixties. It was absolutely freezing while the kids were all opening > their presents and someone looked out the window mid-morning and it was > snowing. > Presents got left behind and we all raced out onto the old croquet green > next door and had a great snowball fight! > After that, the motorbikes were hauled out of the shed and we had a ball > doing doughnuts in the snow. > It was probably 1967 but I might have missed it by one either way. My > memory isn't as good as it was when I was younger! > Carl, you were there that day: can you figure out what year it was. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Kevin Phyland" > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 00:57:26 +1100 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: > > > Hi every1, > > > > I'm pretty sure that Fall's Creek etc.. have had white Christmases > > before... > > > > if New Year's Eve about five or so years ago was anything to go > > by...(had to > > wear a jumper in the backyard and teeth chattering)...it's possible > > that > > they may even have had a white New Year! > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin Phyland. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&D > > I=7474&SU= > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smarts > > pamprotection_3mf > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 22:23:41 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 02:37 PM 25/12/2002 +0800, you wrote: >I remember a white Christmas at Buninyong, near Ballarat, sometime in the >late sixties. It was absolutely freezing while the kids were all opening >their presents and someone looked out the window mid-morning and it was >snowing. Well, heard a report that they had a white Christmas in New Zealand, just out of Christchurch this year. Was at friend's place when one of their relatives rang up and passed on the news. :-) Any of our NZ readers able to offer any more info on the white Christmas there? 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 23:47:58 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: storms 24/12 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael and Dave and also the Sydney Storm Chasers, Great chasing and excellent photographs. Well done!! A Merry Christmas to all. We just got back from our chase from the NW Slopes which we obviously thoroughly enjoyed. It seems that finally all storms have produced incredible lightning. That is how it should be. Jimmy Deguara At 09:25 AM 25/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hi all, > >What a storm in the Lismore area yesterday!! Best structure I have seen >since the Casino HP (17/1/01), but the lightning was better than anything >I can remember !! Frequent pulsating stuff coming out of a green sky with >huge guster. Dave Ellem and I were mainly situated around Coraki (10km S >of Lismore) as the storm passed, and I thought we were going to get >slammed by large hail, but that proved to be the only thing this storm >didn't produce. Incredible rainfall, and a few small hail stones, with >strong winds and flangs galore. It was quite freaky at times, though >luckily we did not encounter the violent winds that have caused damage >across the region. > >regards, Michael > > > > > > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 16:29:02 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Friends of mine set out for a bushwalk in Tasmania on Boxing Day 1968, leaving the Lyell Hwy west of Derwent Bridge to traverse the Mt King William Range to Lake Curly, then exit via the Vale of Rasselas. They had miserable walking through snow as they ascended Mt King William I, and took shelter in a fire observation hut on the range. They reckoned that the snow was 18 inches deep next morning. They stayed in the hut, eventually completing the trip by bushbashing down to relatively lower levels. It's a useful cautionary tale to tell to anyone considering "summer" bushwalking in Tassie (or the mainland alps for that matter). Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Don White > Sent: Wednesday, 25 December, 2002 11:05 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: > > > Phil.. > I think the year might have been 1968. > Boxing Day 1968 in Canberra the maximum temp was 12.7 degrees and this > remains today as the coldest December day in the city's history. Snow > fell in the Snowies and in Central Tasmania - no reports of snow at > lower level in Victoria but Hobart also had their coldest Boxing Day > evenr - max of 13.2. I was in Perisher Valley for New Year's Eve... > patchy snow lay on the ground when we arrived and that night another > SW/S change moved through covering the ground with 2-3 inches. > Don White > > Phil Smith wrote: > > > > I remember a white Christmas at Buninyong, near Ballarat, > sometime in the > > late sixties. It was absolutely freezing while the kids were > all opening > > their presents and someone looked out the window mid-morning and it was > > snowing. > > Presents got left behind and we all raced out onto the old croquet green > > next door and had a great snowball fight! > > After that, the motorbikes were hauled out of the shed and we had a ball > > doing doughnuts in the snow. > > It was probably 1967 but I might have missed it by one either way. My > > memory isn't as good as it was when I was younger! > > Carl, you were there that day: can you figure out what year it was. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Kevin Phyland" > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 00:57:26 +1100 > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: > > > > > Hi every1, > > > > > > I'm pretty sure that Fall's Creek etc.. have had white Christmases > > > before... > > > > > > if New Year's Eve about five or so years ago was anything to go > > > by...(had to > > > wear a jumper in the backyard and teeth chattering)...it's possible > > > that > > > they may even have had a white New Year! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Kevin Phyland. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&D > > > I=7474&SU= > > > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smarts > > > pamprotection_3mf > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Klipsi" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: storms 24/12 Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 21:46:47 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jimmy, please tell me when you know the dates of next december 2003 tours. I will arrive in Hobart after a month cruise to Antarctica and will want to chase with you for a good week or 10 days. I arrive december 3rd in Hobart, probably december 5 in Sydney, so if you have a tour starting december 6, 2003 , you can count me in. hey, about the "good stuff" line : I just had a delicious Chrismas turkey. With good stuffing ! hehe ! ;-) Klipsi +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Klipsi" To: Subject: aus-wx: Grange Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 21:52:06 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jimmy, David, I had another bottle of Grange a few days ago here in Geneva. It was not as good as the one we had together. Ours had been a 1994 vintage. The one I had last week here in Geneva was 1996. God bless Penfold's Grange ! Klipsi +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Liz Kennedy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Grange Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 10:45:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hiya Jimmy, David and Klipsi, Just a little story about the famous Penfolds Grange. I work in a liquor/cigarette/grocery wholesalers and have done so for 3 years, with my heftiest breakage being a 300ml bottle of tomato sauce. Until this one morning, when we were flat out trying to load a heap of pallets on a truck and i was asked to pull the pallets out from a wall for the forkie to pick up. Well, the pallet i was pulling knocked a rather awkard sitting box off the pallet beside it and crashed to the ground, spilling red wine out everywhere. I didnt stress, I didnt work in liquor but had seen the liqour guys drop stuff every day. Till one of them came over, and using frequent f words informed me i should go get the manager as i'd just broken 2 out of the 12 bottles of "grange" that we had orders for. It was then I was informed of there close to $300 price tags! To make matters worse the manager came down to help us clean it up (i think he just wanted to know what a $300 red wine smelt like, lol), slipped in it and 2 months later had knee surgery due to my bottles of grange. So whilst you write with fond memories of your "grange", I cringed when I saw the heading "grange". lol. Just to make this eligable for comment on the weather forum, we have woken to rain here in Port Macquarie this morning, but have missed all the fabulous rain fall that Coffs has recieved over the last couple of days. Here's hoping it wants to settle in for today :) Beth Port Macquarie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klipsi" To: Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 7:52 AM Subject: aus-wx: Grange > Jimmy, David, > > I had another bottle of Grange a few days ago here in Geneva. It was not as > good as the one we had together. Ours had been a 1994 vintage. The one I had > last week here in Geneva was 1996. > > God bless Penfold's Grange ! > > Klipsi > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Way, way off topic but... Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 11:42:58 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I had to reply to this one.  Won't the water get too hot in the sun for the birds  OR is that why it can't remain wet.
 
Judy Mayo
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Way, way off topic but...

This is way, way off topic but I just had to share it. My Mum and Dad got a bird bath for Christmas made from cast iron. It had to be constructed as it was in pieces. Instructions read - Do Not wash or tumble dry or allow to remain wet!!!
Serious!!!
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 11:16:25 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Has anyone heard of or know this person..? From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good morning all. I hope all have had a happy and safe xmas so far.. santa has been kind to us in SE Qld with some rather destructive storms in the last 2 days. Getting to the point, i have heard a name this morning that gave me a little shiver through my body.. a US tornado chaser named David Rice. I am sure i have heard of his name mentioned somewhere but cannot for the life of me remember where. Reason for asking is im speaking on my other irc server to his partner, Wayne Adams.. the pair of them seem to be working on a "tornado detection system/device" and i have been directed to Davids website for more information on their work. http://www.webspawner.com/users/davidrice/ Im just curious, that is all. Jimmy D, youve been over there, do you have any idea? Regards Dale +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Winter storm - USA Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 13:36:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BINGHAMTON NY 719 PM EST WED DEC 25 2002 DELAWARE COUNTY HAS DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE DUE TO THE WINTER STORM. ROADS IN DELAWARE COUNTY ARE UNPASSABLE AND CLOSED. NON-EMERGENCY TRAVEL IS PROHIBITED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. A 976hPa low moving NE along the east coast of the USA is causing plenty of havoc - a State of Emergency has been declared across a number of counties prohibiting travel!! MSL here.. http://weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/analysis/data/jac00_50.gif Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Winter storm - USA Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:56:01 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I guess phil smith in Hong Kong will have seen it unless he is busy tracking the hurricane crystal Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 12:36 PM Subject: aus-wx: Winter storm - USA > SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT > NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BINGHAMTON NY > 719 PM EST WED DEC 25 2002 > > DELAWARE COUNTY HAS DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE > DUE TO THE WINTER STORM. ROADS IN DELAWARE COUNTY ARE UNPASSABLE AND > CLOSED. NON-EMERGENCY TRAVEL IS PROHIBITED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. > > A 976hPa low moving NE along the east coast of the USA is causing plenty > of havoc - a State of Emergency has been declared across a number of > counties prohibiting travel!! > > MSL here.. > http://weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/analysis/data/jac00_50.gif > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 03:16:30 +0000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Winter storm - USA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The Low is 975hPa sitting just off Long Island http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/OddBits/NY_975mbLOW.gif Jane ONeill wrote: > > SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT > NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BINGHAMTON NY > 719 PM EST WED DEC 25 2002 > > DELAWARE COUNTY HAS DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE > DUE TO THE WINTER STORM. ROADS IN DELAWARE COUNTY ARE UNPASSABLE AND > CLOSED. NON-EMERGENCY TRAVEL IS PROHIBITED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. > > A 976hPa low moving NE along the east coast of the USA is causing plenty > of havoc - a State of Emergency has been declared across a number of > counties prohibiting travel!! > > MSL here.. > http://weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/analysis/data/jac00_50.gif > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:25:19 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 22:23 25/12/02 +1100, you wrote: >At 02:37 PM 25/12/2002 +0800, you wrote: > >>I remember a white Christmas at Buninyong, near Ballarat, sometime in the >>late sixties. It was absolutely freezing while the kids were all opening >>their presents and someone looked out the window mid-morning and it was >>snowing. > >Well, heard a report that they had a white Christmas in New Zealand, just >out of Christchurch this year. Was at friend's place when one of their >relatives rang up and passed on the news. :-) > >Any of our NZ readers able to offer any more info on the white Christmas there? > >73 de Tony, VK3JED >http://vkradio.com It definitely wasn't a white Christmas here in ChCh yesyerday as I recorded a maximum of 29.5C in fine clear breezy North-westerly conditions. ...However it was much colder in lower parts of the South Island where snow was forcasted for the Milford Road in Fiordland. Ben Tichborne our local "snow-man" may have more info on this. JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Von Karman streets Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 14:36:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com All, is this a von Karman street in the eddy off the coast of NSW? http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/021213a.gif What would cause an eddy like this to form? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Max" To: Subject: aus-wx: Humour at Christmas Time Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:19:56 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey All,
 
PaulY here...on Max's computer. Anyway, just got shown this by one of the guys who works for the NWS in Springfield, MO. Not his work, but it's a classic, and even tells of the events there atm.
 
AREA WEATHER SUMMARY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SPRINGFIELD MO
936 AM CST WED DEC 25 2002

TWAS THE MORNING OF CHRISTMAS.
AND ALL THROUGH THE HILLS.
A BLANKET OF SNOW.
BROUGHT WONDER AND THRILLS.

THE STORM HAD MOVED EAST.
AND HIGH PRESSURE MOVED IN.
AND WITH CLEAR SKIES AND FRESH SNOW.
MORNING LOWS FELL TO NEAR 10.

SUNNY SKIES ARE ON TAP.
FOR THE REST OF THE DAY.
BUT THE SNOW WILL STAY PUT.
THE WARM AIR HELD AT BAY.

ANOTHER CLEAR NIGHT.
WILL LET TEMPERATURES FALL.
TO NEAR ZERO IN PLACES.
WHERE THE SNOWDRIFTS STAND TALL. 

A SLOW WARMUP WILL BEGIN.
AS THE WEEKEND DRAWS NEAR.
BUT DENSE FOG MAY FORM NIGHTLY.
SOMETHING TRAVELERS SHOULD FEAR.

THE NEXT CHANCE FOR RAIN.
WILL COME SUNDAY AT NIGHT.
AS A COLD FRONT APPROACHES.
WITH THUNDER IN SIGHT. 

$$

BROWNING

Definately a Classic
 
PaulY
From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone formmation Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 14:23:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
if you are reffering to tropical cyclone zoe
 
i think your about 3 hour behind michael
jtwc has allread issued 2 warning on the cyclone
 
UNCLAS //N03145//
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVPACMETOCCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ:  TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING
WTPS31 PGTW 260300    
1. TROPICAL CYCLONE 06P (ZOE) WARNING NR 002    
   01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN SOUTHPAC
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
    ---
   WARNING POSITION:
   260000Z8 --- NEAR 10.9S0 175.4E7
     MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 265 DEGREES AT 09 KTS
     POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 040 NM
     POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
   PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 020 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 120 NM 
   REPEAT POSIT: 10.9S0 175.4E7
    ---
   FORECASTS:
   12 HRS, VALID AT:
   261200Z1 --- 11.0S2 173.4E5
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 065 KT, GUSTS 080 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 030 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 125 NM 
   VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 270 DEG/ 11 KTS
    ---
   24 HRS, VALID AT:
   270000Z9 --- 11.0S2 171.2E1
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 075 KT, GUSTS 090 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 035 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 130 NM 
   VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 265 DEG/ 09 KTS
    ---
   36 HRS, VALID AT:
   271200Z2 --- 11.1S3 169.4E0
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 040 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 135 NM 
   VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 270 DEG/ 06 KTS
    ---
   EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
   48 HRS, VALID AT:
   280000Z0 --- 11.1S3 168.1E6
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 090 KT, GUSTS 110 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 055 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 135 NM 
    ---
REMARKS:
260300Z1 POSITION NEAR 10.9S0  174.9E1. 
TROPICAL CYCLONE (TC) 06P (ZOE), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 420 NM NORTH-
NORTHWEST OF THE FIJI ISLANDS, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 9 KNOTS 
DURING THE PAST SIX HOURS. THE WARNING POSITION IS BASED ON 252330Z7 
MULTI-SPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY. THE WARNING INTENSITY IS BASED ON 
SATELLITE CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATES OF 45 AND 55 KNOTS. RECENT 
MICROWAVE IMAGERY DEPICTS A DEVELOPING BANDING FEATURE ALONG THE 
WESTERN PERIPHERY AND ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS 
GOOD POLEWARD OUTFLOW. THE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO TRACK WESTWARD 
THROUGH THE PERIOD ALONG THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE LOW TO MID-LEVEL 
SUBTROPICAL STEERING RIDGE. TC 06P SHOULD INTENSIFY NEAR 
CLIMATOLOGICAL RATE AS IT REMAINS UNDERNEATH THE RIDGE AXIS WITH 
FAVORABLE OUTFLOW ALOFT. THE AVAILABLE DYNAMIC AIDS CONSISTING OF 
NGPS, NCEP AVIATION (AVN), AND UKMET GLOBAL (EGRR) ARE IN GOOD 
AGREEMENT WITH THIS SCENARIO. OUR FORECAST IS BASED ON PERSISTENCE 
AND A CONSENSUS OF ALL THE AVAILABLE DYNAMIC AIDS. MAXIMUM 
SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 260000Z8 IS 12 FEET. NEXT WARNINGS AT 
261500Z4 AND 270300Z2.//
NNNN
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 1:13 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cyclone formmation

THE AREA OF CONVECTION PREVIOUSLY LOCATED NEAR 9.1S0
178.8W4 HAS BEEN RELOCATED NEAR 10.6S7 178.9E5, APPROXIMATELY 340 NM
NORTH OF THE FIJI ISLANDS. ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED AND
MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES CYCLIC, BUT ORGANIZED,
DEEP CONVECTION WITH INCREASED POLEWARD OUTFLOW. THE 200 MB ANALYSIS
DEPICTS WEAK VERTICAL WIND SHEAR AND GOOD DIFFLUENCE ALOFT OVER THE
REGION. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED SURFACE WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 20 TO 25
KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE 1003 MB. BASED
ON THE INCREASED OUTFLOW AND ORGANIZATION OF THE SYSTEM, WE WILL BE
ISSUING A TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT (TCFA) FOR THIS SYSTEM
WITHIN THE NEXT FEW HOURS. BASED ON ANTICIPATED ISSUANCE OF A TCFA
ON THIS SYSTEM, THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT
TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS UPGRADED TO GOOD.
X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:29:03 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That's interesting, as the Christmas to New Years period was very hot in Perth in 1968. Christmas Day was 42.0, the hottest Christmas ever, and the hottest December day on record still stands as 42.3 on the 31st December, 1968. Jacob At 04:29 PM 25/12/2002 +0000, you wrote: >Friends of mine set out for a bushwalk in Tasmania on Boxing Day 1968, >leaving the Lyell Hwy west of Derwent Bridge to traverse the Mt King William >Range to Lake Curly, then exit via the Vale of Rasselas. They had miserable >walking through snow as they ascended Mt King William I, and took shelter in >a fire observation hut on the range. They reckoned that the snow was 18 >inches deep next morning. They stayed in the hut, eventually completing the >trip by bushbashing down to relatively lower levels. It's a useful >cautionary tale to tell to anyone considering "summer" bushwalking in Tassie >(or the mainland alps for that matter). > >Laurier > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Don White >> Sent: Wednesday, 25 December, 2002 11:05 >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: >> >> >> Phil.. >> I think the year might have been 1968. >> Boxing Day 1968 in Canberra the maximum temp was 12.7 degrees and this >> remains today as the coldest December day in the city's history. Snow >> fell in the Snowies and in Central Tasmania - no reports of snow at >> lower level in Victoria but Hobart also had their coldest Boxing Day >> evenr - max of 13.2. I was in Perisher Valley for New Year's Eve... >> patchy snow lay on the ground when we arrived and that night another >> SW/S change moved through covering the ground with 2-3 inches. >> Don White >> >> Phil Smith wrote: >> > >> > I remember a white Christmas at Buninyong, near Ballarat, >> sometime in the >> > late sixties. It was absolutely freezing while the kids were >> all opening >> > their presents and someone looked out the window mid-morning and it was >> > snowing. >> > Presents got left behind and we all raced out onto the old croquet green >> > next door and had a great snowball fight! >> > After that, the motorbikes were hauled out of the shed and we had a ball >> > doing doughnuts in the snow. >> > It was probably 1967 but I might have missed it by one either way. My >> > memory isn't as good as it was when I was younger! >> > Carl, you were there that day: can you figure out what year it was. >> > >> > Phil >> > <>< >> > >> > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk >> > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk >> > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com >> > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk >> > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm >> > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: "Kevin Phyland" >> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 00:57:26 +1100 >> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: >> > >> > > Hi every1, >> > > >> > > I'm pretty sure that Fall's Creek etc.. have had white Christmases >> > > before... >> > > >> > > if New Year's Eve about five or so years ago was anything to go >> > > by...(had to >> > > wear a jumper in the backyard and teeth chattering)...it's possible >> > > that >> > > they may even have had a white New Year! >> > > >> > > Cheers, >> > > Kevin Phyland. >> > > >> > > _________________________________________________________________ >> > > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. >> > > >> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&D >> > > I=7474&SU= >> > > >> http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smarts >> > > pamprotection_3mf >> > > >> > > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >> > > + >> > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> > > to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >> > > your >> > > message. >> > > >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- >> > > - >> > >> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the >> body of your >> > message. >> > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone formmation Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:27:08 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This is it...it's not on the BoM map...yet
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone formmation

if you are reffering to tropical cyclone zoe
 
i think your about 3 hour behind michael
jtwc has allread issued 2 warning on the cyclone
 
UNCLAS //N03145//
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVPACMETOCCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ:  TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING
WTPS31 PGTW 260300    
1. TROPICAL CYCLONE 06P (ZOE) WARNING NR 002    
   01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN SOUTHPAC
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
    ---
   WARNING POSITION:
   260000Z8 --- NEAR 10.9S0 175.4E7
     MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 265 DEGREES AT 09 KTS
     POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 040 NM
     POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
   PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 020 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 120 NM 
   REPEAT POSIT: 10.9S0 175.4E7
    ---
   FORECASTS:
   12 HRS, VALID AT:
   261200Z1 --- 11.0S2 173.4E5
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 065 KT, GUSTS 080 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 030 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 125 NM 
   VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 270 DEG/ 11 KTS
    ---
   24 HRS, VALID AT:
   270000Z9 --- 11.0S2 171.2E1
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 075 KT, GUSTS 090 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 035 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 130 NM 
   VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 265 DEG/ 09 KTS
    ---
   36 HRS, VALID AT:
   271200Z2 --- 11.1S3 169.4E0
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 040 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 135 NM 
   VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 270 DEG/ 06 KTS
    ---
   EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
   48 HRS, VALID AT:
   280000Z0 --- 11.1S3 168.1E6
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 090 KT, GUSTS 110 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 055 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 135 NM 
    ---
REMARKS:
260300Z1 POSITION NEAR 10.9S0  174.9E1. 
TROPICAL CYCLONE (TC) 06P (ZOE), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 420 NM NORTH-
NORTHWEST OF THE FIJI ISLANDS, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 9 KNOTS 
DURING THE PAST SIX HOURS. THE WARNING POSITION IS BASED ON 252330Z7 
MULTI-SPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY. THE WARNING INTENSITY IS BASED ON 
SATELLITE CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATES OF 45 AND 55 KNOTS. RECENT 
MICROWAVE IMAGERY DEPICTS A DEVELOPING BANDING FEATURE ALONG THE 
WESTERN PERIPHERY AND ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS 
GOOD POLEWARD OUTFLOW. THE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO TRACK WESTWARD 
THROUGH THE PERIOD ALONG THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE LOW TO MID-LEVEL 
SUBTROPICAL STEERING RIDGE. TC 06P SHOULD INTENSIFY NEAR 
CLIMATOLOGICAL RATE AS IT REMAINS UNDERNEATH THE RIDGE AXIS WITH 
FAVORABLE OUTFLOW ALOFT. THE AVAILABLE DYNAMIC AIDS CONSISTING OF 
NGPS, NCEP AVIATION (AVN), AND UKMET GLOBAL (EGRR) ARE IN GOOD 
AGREEMENT WITH THIS SCENARIO. OUR FORECAST IS BASED ON PERSISTENCE 
AND A CONSENSUS OF ALL THE AVAILABLE DYNAMIC AIDS. MAXIMUM 
SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 260000Z8 IS 12 FEET. NEXT WARNINGS AT 
261500Z4 AND 270300Z2.//
NNNN
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 1:13 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cyclone formmation

THE AREA OF CONVECTION PREVIOUSLY LOCATED NEAR 9.1S0
178.8W4 HAS BEEN RELOCATED NEAR 10.6S7 178.9E5, APPROXIMATELY 340 NM
NORTH OF THE FIJI ISLANDS. ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED AND
MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES CYCLIC, BUT ORGANIZED,
DEEP CONVECTION WITH INCREASED POLEWARD OUTFLOW. THE 200 MB ANALYSIS
DEPICTS WEAK VERTICAL WIND SHEAR AND GOOD DIFFLUENCE ALOFT OVER THE
REGION. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED SURFACE WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 20 TO 25
KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE 1003 MB. BASED
ON THE INCREASED OUTFLOW AND ORGANIZATION OF THE SYSTEM, WE WILL BE
ISSUING A TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT (TCFA) FOR THIS SYSTEM
WITHIN THE NEXT FEW HOURS. BASED ON ANTICIPATED ISSUANCE OF A TCFA
ON THIS SYSTEM, THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT
TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS UPGRADED TO GOOD.
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:08:29 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Von Karman streets Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
looks like the horizontal equivalent in ocean currents of the principal that causes the kelvin-helmholtz wave in the atmosphere.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 26 December 2002 2:19:47 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Von Karman streets
 
All,

is this a von Karman street in the eddy off the coast of NSW?
http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/021213a.gif What would cause an eddy
like this to form?

Jane

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Embedded Content: IMSTP27.gif: 00000001,47568a69,00000000,00000000 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:18:01 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Has anyone heard of or know this person..? X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Can't say I have heard of him but if his web site is anything to go by, he could sure do with some typing lessons! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Dale Small To: Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 11:16:25 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Has anyone heard of or know this person..? > Good morning all. > > I hope all have had a happy and safe xmas so far.. santa has been kind > to us > in SE Qld with some rather destructive storms in the last 2 days. > > Getting to the point, i have heard a name this morning that gave me a > little > shiver through my body.. a US tornado chaser named David Rice. > I am sure i have heard of his name mentioned somewhere but cannot for > the > life of me remember where. > > Reason for asking is im speaking on my other irc server to his partner, > Wayne Adams.. the pair of them seem to be working on a "tornado > detection > system/device" and i have been directed to Davids website for more > information on their work. > > http://www.webspawner.com/users/davidrice/ > > Im just curious, that is all. > Jimmy D, youve been over there, do you have any idea? > > > Regards > Dale > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:32:05 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Way, way off topic but... X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Maybe those instructions are suggesting that they shouldn't wash or tumble dry the birds or leave too many of those birdies to remain wet! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:51:38 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Way, way off topic but... > This is way, way off topic but I just had to share it. My Mum and Dad > got a bird bath for Christmas made from cast iron. It had to be > constructed as it was in pieces. Instructions read - Do Not wash or > tumble dry or allow to remain wet!!! > Serious!!! > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: good rain Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 08:13:14 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Don wrote: > Peter... > 45 mm in Coffs and 37 mm in North Coffs. > Gleniffer to the north of Bellingen had 115 mm and Crystal Creek (in the > Promised Land area nearby 95 mm) of which 101 and 84mm respectively fell in the 3 hour period to 6pm on 24/12. Given that Coffs AP recorded 36.6 in 1 hour and Lismore AP 25.6 in 12 minutes (9.6 in 3 minutes!) from the same system, It would be interesting to know in what period these figures mostly fell; unfortunately, the Bureau's floodwarning hourly data didn't capture it, and Manly Hydraulics is down at present. Some other interesting stats of both the NSW and Qld storms will be at http://www.australianweathernews.com/news/2002/12/20021224.htm and http://www.australianweathernews.com/news/2002/12/20021224.htm when I upload them shortly. Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: good rain -- question for Peter Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 08:23:18 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Peter, was that 130mm or 130 points? If points, it fits well with the 37mm (~150 points) at Coffs AP 5km to the north of Sawtell. The high falls at Gleniffer and Crystal Creek were 20km to the west and under the southern escarpment of the Dorrigo Plateau, where you'd expect 3x or 4x amplification of the general rainfall pattern. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of peter > tristram > Sent: Wednesday, 25 December, 2002 00:22 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: good rain > > > Yes David, there was some flooding - my mum recorded another 10mm to make > 130mm, 30mm here at Repton in the end. Gleniffer had over 100mm > as well. My > son went to a party near Sawtell and he couldn't get out of his > car for half > an hour as the road was flooded and when the downpoor finally ended his > mate's garage was under water. Mum tells me Bonville copped it too - it > looked good on the radar, but unlike further north no hail or > serious wind. > People might need to dust off their lawnmowers now - the > Coffs/Sawtell area > was unbelievably dry missing most of the recent rain. Woopie > didn't get much > though. Another 300mm would do the trick! > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Sercombe" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 8:31 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: good rain > > > > Whoa! That sounds like a pretty localised downpour down there > in Toormina! > > Considering there was 'only' 40 odd mm at the Coffs BoM (as you may > already > > know, about 7km north of Sawtell/Toormina). Wouldn't be > surprised at some > > flash flooding in the area also! > > > > David Sercombe > > > > Coffs Harbour NE NSW > > > > From: "peter tristram" > > Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > To: > > Subject: aus-wx: good rain > > Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 19:23:38 +1100 > > > > Some good storms in the Coffs area - my mum tipped 120mm out of > her gauge > at > > Toormina, near Sawtell - best 1 hr fall for years, she said. I rang her > > after the radar showed a cell over her area for an hour or so. She said > the > > lightning was awesome with prolonged CGs. Only 15mm at Repton - > the storm > > cells went along the range moving NE so the Bellinger Valley missed out > this > > time...but...it's still raining! > > > > Merry Xmas all. > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/12/2002 > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/12/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:46:20 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Violent HP supercell chase Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello, A few stills from our latest tour (23rd Dec) up on the NW slopes of NSW. http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/231202_10_sm.jpg This was a very powerful cyclic HP supercell. The four snips below are associated with the same mesocyclone when the cell was in/around Boggabri. The first still reveals more of a classic supercell structure with wall cloud, although, this phase of each cycle was always fairly short-lived with the meso quickly wrapping in precip. The wall cloud had a beautiful concave base with a small funnel at the centre of circulation - same sort of stuff we observed in White Deer Tx although lacking in this case was 30kt of NE inflow - hence rapid outflow dominance. http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/231202_13_sm.jpg These three were grabbed at least 20 minutes later - check out the bears cage. Intense rain, hail and lightning which we had a close enconter with during an earlier phase of the storm near Mullaley. This storm had some incredible motion at this point; we wondered what was going on in there that's for sure. http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/231202_19_sm.jpg http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/231202_19_sm.jpg http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/231202_20_sm.jpg A small promo with a few more shots is already up. When I'm back from o/s we (Jimmy and I) will throw a bunch of full size video stills at www.thunderbolttours.com The satellite picture for those who had observed it at the time is awesome. David Croan and Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 20:31:55 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 04:25 PM 26/12/2002 +1300, you wrote: >It definitely wasn't a white Christmas here in ChCh yesyerday as I recorded >a maximum of 29.5C in fine clear breezy North-westerly conditions. >...However it was much colder in lower parts of the South Island where snow >was forcasted for the Milford Road in Fiordland. Ben Tichborne our local >"snow-man" may have more info on this. Since I got the location information secondhand, the exact location may be inaccurate, but apparently it did snow somewhere in the S island. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 17:32:21 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Unusual WX situation in HK at the moment X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well we now have hoisted two warnings that look like they belong together. The Very Cold Weather Warning remains hoisted and the Strong Monsoon Signal (described here: http://www.hko.gov.hk/wservice/warning/smse.htm) was hoisted here within the last hour. Figures from a few AWS around the territory are attached. First day to put anything over my shirt for this winter and I bypassed the jumper and went straight to the down-filled jacket. Some years we do actually need these in tropical Hong Kong. Date/Time: 26/12/2002 17:10 Station Temp RH Max/Min Dir/Speed Barometer WC (C) (%) (C) (km/h) (hPa) (C) ---------------------------------------------------------- HK Observatory 10.6 69 16.0/10.4 ---/----- 1022.4 King's Park 9.1 62 ----/---- NNE/ 16.6 1022.1 6.6 Wong Chuk Hang 10.3 63 15.6/10.3 NNW/ 12.0 ------ Ta Kwu Ling 7.6 66 12.9/ 7.6 NNE/ 24.0 1023.5 4.0 Lau Fau Shan 8.2 76 13.3/ 8.1 NNE/ 28.0 1022.7 4.4 Tai Po 9.1 74 13.4/ 9.1 ---/----- 1023.3 Sha Tin 9.6 67 14.3/ 9.6 NNE/ 19.0 1023.2 7.0 Tuen Mun 8.6 74 13.4/ 8.6 NNE/ 17.0 ------ 6.0 Tseung Kwan O 9.0 65 14.2/ 9.0 N / 17.0 ------ 6.5 Sai Kung 8.9 60 14.1/ 8.9 N / 33.0 ------ 4.9 Cheung Chau 9.4 68 13.9/ 9.4 N / 44.0 1021.7 5.0 Chek Lap Kok 9.2 68 14.8/ 9.1 NNE/ 22.0 1022.9 6.2 Tsing Yi 9.4 67 14.9/ 9.1 N / 9.0 ------ 8.1 Shek Kong 8.0 76 13.0/ 8.0 NE / 18.0 1023.6 5.1 Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:25:35 +0800 Subject: aus-wx: Unusual WX situation in HK at the moment > At present, the HKO has two weather warnings hoisted at once: > 1. The Very Cold Weather Warning - means temps will fall below 10 > before > the night is out. > 2. The Yellow Fire Danger Warning - means fire danger around the > territory is Very High. > Aussies, especially, usually don't equate very low temperatures with > fire > warnings, but the countryside here is tinder dry during our winter, and > there will be very low humidity and Force 6 winds before the predicted > rain arrives. > The humidity will later climb to 80% so they will probably lower the > Fire > Warning when that happens. > I expect the Strong Monsoon Signal might have to be hoisted during the > night. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.28.69.170] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: good rain Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 10:03:28 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Dec 2002 10:03:28.0291 (UTC) FILETIME=[09837F30:01C2ACC6] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I talked to my grandparents in Boambee (west side of the highway) yesterday and they told me they got 90mm. So it seems that the heaviest stuff was in the Boambee East/Toormina area. The grass is now growing at a rate of knots! :) (but we could definitely do with some follow-up rainfall) David Sercombe Coffs Harbour NE NSW From: "peter tristram" Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: good rain Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 11:21:52 +1100 Yes David, there was some flooding - my mum recorded another 10mm to make 130mm, 30mm here at Repton in the end. Gleniffer had over 100mm as well. My son went to a party near Sawtell and he couldn't get out of his car for half an hour as the road was flooded and when the downpoor finally ended his mate's garage was under water. Mum tells me Bonville copped it too - it looked good on the radar, but unlike further north no hail or serious wind. People might need to dust off their lawnmowers now - the Coffs/Sawtell area was unbelievably dry missing most of the recent rain. Woopie didn't get much though. Another 300mm would do the trick! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Sercombe" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: good rain > Whoa! That sounds like a pretty localised downpour down there in Toormina! > Considering there was 'only' 40 odd mm at the Coffs BoM (as you may already > know, about 7km north of Sawtell/Toormina). Wouldn't be surprised at some > flash flooding in the area also! > > David Sercombe > > Coffs Harbour NE NSW > > From: "peter tristram" > Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > To: > Subject: aus-wx: good rain > Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 19:23:38 +1100 > > Some good storms in the Coffs area - my mum tipped 120mm out of her gauge at > Toormina, near Sawtell - best 1 hr fall for years, she said. I rang her > after the radar showed a cell over her area for an hour or so. She said the > lightning was awesome with prolonged CGs. Only 15mm at Repton - the storm > cells went along the range moving NE so the Bellinger Valley missed out this > time...but...it's still raining! > > Merry Xmas all. > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/12/2002 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/12/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_eliminateviruses_3mf +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 20:04:35 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Has anyone heard of or know this person..? From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com lol thankyou Phil, yes the person whom compiled it sure could use another course in typing. Since i made that post, i have found out a lot more information about the 4 of them in total, David is actually the businessman in all of this it appears. Nonetheless, it still shook a bone in my body. Thanks Dale +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: tropical cyclone zoe warning 3 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:43:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
UNCLAS //N03145//
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVPACMETOCCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ:  TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING
WTPS31 PGTW 260300    
1. TROPICAL CYCLONE 06P (ZOE) WARNING NR 002    
   01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN SOUTHPAC
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
    ---
   WARNING POSITION:
   260000Z8 --- NEAR 10.9S0 175.4E7
     MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 265 DEGREES AT 09 KTS
     POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 040 NM
     POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
   PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 020 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 120 NM 
   REPEAT POSIT: 10.9S0 175.4E7
    ---
   FORECASTS:
   12 HRS, VALID AT:
   261200Z1 --- 11.0S2 173.4E5
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 065 KT, GUSTS 080 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 030 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 125 NM 
   VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 270 DEG/ 11 KTS
    ---
   24 HRS, VALID AT:
   270000Z9 --- 11.0S2 171.2E1
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 075 KT, GUSTS 090 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 035 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 130 NM 
   VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 265 DEG/ 09 KTS
    ---
   36 HRS, VALID AT:
   271200Z2 --- 11.1S3 169.4E0
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 040 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 135 NM 
   VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 270 DEG/ 06 KTS
    ---
   EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
   48 HRS, VALID AT:
   280000Z0 --- 11.1S3 168.1E6
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 090 KT, GUSTS 110 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 055 NM 
   RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 135 NM 
    ---
REMARKS:
260300Z1 POSITION NEAR 10.9S0  174.9E1. 
TROPICAL CYCLONE (TC) 06P (ZOE), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 420 NM NORTH-
NORTHWEST OF THE FIJI ISLANDS, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 9 KNOTS 
DURING THE PAST SIX HOURS. THE WARNING POSITION IS BASED ON 252330Z7 
MULTI-SPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY. THE WARNING INTENSITY IS BASED ON 
SATELLITE CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATES OF 45 AND 55 KNOTS. RECENT 
MICROWAVE IMAGERY DEPICTS A DEVELOPING BANDING FEATURE ALONG THE 
WESTERN PERIPHERY AND ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS 
GOOD POLEWARD OUTFLOW. THE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO TRACK WESTWARD 
THROUGH THE PERIOD ALONG THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE LOW TO MID-LEVEL 
SUBTROPICAL STEERING RIDGE. TC 06P SHOULD INTENSIFY NEAR 
CLIMATOLOGICAL RATE AS IT REMAINS UNDERNEATH THE RIDGE AXIS WITH 
FAVORABLE OUTFLOW ALOFT. THE AVAILABLE DYNAMIC AIDS CONSISTING OF 
NGPS, NCEP AVIATION (AVN), AND UKMET GLOBAL (EGRR) ARE IN GOOD 
AGREEMENT WITH THIS SCENARIO. OUR FORECAST IS BASED ON PERSISTENCE 
AND A CONSENSUS OF ALL THE AVAILABLE DYNAMIC AIDS. MAXIMUM 
SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 260000Z8 IS 12 FEET. NEXT WARNINGS AT 
261500Z4 AND 270300Z2.//
NNNN
as per the jtwc web site 
Stephen 
 
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: SEQ storms 25/12, 26/12 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 22:35:09 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, Well Santa has been very good to us with violent storms and very nice lightning 3 days running just inland from Brisbane (Brisbane/Lockyer valleys).. Yesterdays storm was a monster which according to Ch 10 news tonight delivered rockmelon sized hail at Helidon (Hell at Helidon lol), and damage footage shown of collapsed and tattered roofs was consistent with that report. Closest I got was on the Warrego Hwy North of Ipswich about 6:00pm and it looked very mean indeed, not dissimilar to the casino HP (17/1/01). Storm structure was excellent with quite a number of inflow bands in the middle levels, radiating like spokes from the storm core. Today's storms not as damaging but produced some local flooding in the same area (Oakey/Esk) and about 3 hrs of Anvil rumbling at Mt. Crosby. Quite good mammatus in mid afternoon. John. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "peter tristram" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: good rain -- question for Peter Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:32:36 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Laurier I've been metricated for many years and so has my mum, both of us being/having been primary school teachers! The runoff from the storm produced some serious local flooding in the Boambee/Sawtell/Toormina areas - mud and rocks all over the place and plenty of residences had water damage. I saw a building site with a raft slab undermined on one side because metres of fill had been washed into the street below and down neighbours' driveways. Storms along the escarpment often track out to sea via this path as the range, although lowering, reaches the Pacific Hway between Bonville and Boambee. When this happens we get a fringe effect only at Repton. Peter From: "Laurier Williams" To: Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: good rain -- question for Peter > Peter, was that 130mm or 130 points? If points, it fits well with the 37mm > (~150 points) at Coffs AP 5km to the north of Sawtell. The high falls at > Gleniffer and Crystal Creek were 20km to the west and under the southern > escarpment of the Dorrigo Plateau, where you'd expect 3x or 4x amplification > of the general rainfall pattern. > > Laurier > > > > > > Yes David, there was some flooding - my mum recorded another 10mm to make > > 130mm, 30mm here at Repton in the end. Gleniffer had over 100mm > > as well. My > > son went to a party near Sawtell and he couldn't get out of his > > car for half > > an hour as the road was flooded and when the downpoor finally ended his > > mate's garage was under water. Mum tells me Bonville copped it too - it > > looked good on the radar, but unlike further north no hail or > > serious wind. > > People might need to dust off their lawnmowers now - the > > Coffs/Sawtell area > > was unbelievably dry missing most of the recent rain. Woopie > > didn't get much > > though. Another 300mm would do the trick! > > > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Sercombe" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 8:31 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: good rain > > > > > > > Whoa! That sounds like a pretty localised downpour down there > > in Toormina! > > > Considering there was 'only' 40 odd mm at the Coffs BoM (as you may > > already > > > know, about 7km north of Sawtell/Toormina). Wouldn't be > > surprised at some > > > flash flooding in the area also! > > > > > > David Sercombe > > > > > > Coffs Harbour NE NSW > > > > > > From: "peter tristram" > > > Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > To: > > > Subject: aus-wx: good rain > > > Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 19:23:38 +1100 > > > > > > Some good storms in the Coffs area - my mum tipped 120mm out of > > her gauge > > at > > > Toormina, near Sawtell - best 1 hr fall for years, she said. I rang her > > > after the radar showed a cell over her area for an hour or so. She said > > the > > > lightning was awesome with prolonged CGs. Only 15mm at Repton - > > the storm > > > cells went along the range moving NE so the Bellinger Valley missed out > > this > > > time...but...it's still raining! > > > > > > Merry Xmas all. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/12/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Craig Arthur" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Von Karman streets Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:47:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane, Yeah, Id agree that it is probably von Karman streets generated by the flow being perturbed along the continental shelf. These eddies are common, the yachts in the Sydney-Hobart know the difference going through one can make (either increasing or decreasing the southerly current). Not often that we see them so well organised... Craig Arthur ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:36 PM Subject: aus-wx: Von Karman streets > All, > > is this a von Karman street in the eddy off the coast of NSW? > http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/021213a.gif What would cause an eddy > like this to form? > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:21:48 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Decided to check out the weather summaries for October - well 13th October 2002 http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigwmenu.shtml Strong winds destroys two houses at Niangala http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigw0802.shtml On the 3rd a funnel cloud was sighted at Euroa just after 4pm lasting 15-20 minutes. No damage was reported I suppose this is the scientific way of approaching it which I congratulate the Bureau for. Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: question Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:54:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
 does any body know of any websites in new zearland  about the weather conditions , or any other sites that have this type of reports .
As I have friends going there for 4 weeks
Stephen
 
From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: question Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 19:07:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Stephen,
This should do the trick
 
 
 
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 does any body know of any websites in new zearland  about the weather conditions , or any other sites that have this type of reports .
As I have friends going there for 4 weeks
Stephen
 
From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: good rain -- question for Peter Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 19:26:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anyone who doesn't know/not sure, 1mm equals 4 points of rain on the old scale. My mum and dad still want it that way :-) There's my lesson completed for today. > I've been metricated for many years and so has my mum, both of us > being/having been primary school teachers! The runoff from the storm > > > Peter, was that 130mm or 130 points? If points, it fits well with the 37mm > > (~150 points) at Coffs AP 5km to the north of Sawtell. The high falls at > > Gleniffer and Crystal Creek were 20km to the west and under the southern > > escarpment of the Dorrigo Plateau, where you'd expect 3x or 4x > amplification > > of the general rainfall pattern. > > > > Laurier > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 19:31:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jimmy and all, Goodness, the tornado has ended up on a NOAA list of tornado events http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq//tornado/torpages.html as well as on the main page of Stormtrack http://www.stormtrack.org !!! Expert video analysis has shown that it was on the ground and that the condensation in the lower funnel rapidly extended upwards from the ground to join the funnel extending from the cloud base. Such events are commonly seen in tornado activity in the USA, where tornadoes can be on the ground without any visible funnel extending from the cloud base. The fact that no damage was reported is quite common, as many tornadoes touch down in areas that do not directly affect human habitation. The facts are - the video shows everything. I reported this as a funnel cloud and it developed further until touchdown occurred while I was on the phone to the BoM. The report of a funnel is erroneous and BoM staff have confirmed that it was a tornado and the report in the log was the early report of a funnel, which was not updated. Please feel free to contact Severe Wx in BoM in Melbourne if you disagree. The Euroa event was a rare occasion when a stormchaser was in place (and at the correct location) to be able to video a tornadic occurrence that is appears to be more frequent in Australia than previously thought. This is the 8th occasion when tornadic activity has been videoed in Victoria by stormchasers since 1998, and they will continue to occur - and we will be there..... Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 PM Subject: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries > Hi, > > Decided to check out the weather summaries for October - well 13th October 2002 > > http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigwmenu.sh tml > > Strong winds destroys two houses at Niangala > > > http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigw0802.sh tml > > On the 3rd a funnel cloud was sighted at Euroa just after 4pm lasting 15-20 > minutes. No damage was reported > > > I suppose this is the scientific way of approaching it which I congratulate > the Bureau for. > > Jimmy Deguara > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: question Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 19:45:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
A New Zealand farmer and many other links.
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 does any body know of any websites in new zearland  about the weather conditions , or any other sites that have this type of reports .
As I have friends going there for 4 weeks
Stephen
 
X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:00:23 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dear Jane, Can you suggest who was the expert who analysed the tornado video? Perhaps based on the definition of funnel more than 2/3 way to the ground it could be considered a tornado. Because Australia is on the other side of the world and often news does not get to the US, some chasers including myself on other forums or using other contacts ask for links to be included and so forth. Often the word is taken based on face value hoping for the integrity of the report to be totally correct. In the US, when a tornado is reported, it is followed up and commented on based on damage reports and well trained spotter reports Now back earlier when this thread was operational, I did ask was a damage assessment done no answer that I recall. Now Jane has provided an answer, great stuff: "The fact that no damage was reported is quite common, as many tornadoes touch down in areas that do not directly affect human habitation. The facts are - the video shows everything." How far from town was the touchdown? I would have thought with Victoria's road network, some evidence of damage would have occurred. Perhaps you are correct as the video of the tornado was not clear at the AGM for me to analyse it and I was at the back. My initial assessment as a scientist would have been possible tornado or tornadic funnel, now I have to reconsider... Jimmy Deguara At 07:31 PM 27/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hi Jimmy and all, > >Goodness, the tornado has ended up on a NOAA list of tornado events >http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq//tornado/torpages.html as well as on the >main page of Stormtrack http://www.stormtrack.org !!! > >Expert video analysis has shown that it was on the ground and that the >condensation in the lower funnel rapidly extended upwards from the >ground to join the funnel extending from the cloud base. Such events are >commonly seen in tornado activity in the USA, where tornadoes can be on >the ground without any visible funnel extending from the cloud base. The >fact that no damage was reported is quite common, as many tornadoes >touch down in areas that do not directly affect human habitation. The >facts are - the video shows everything. > >I reported this as a funnel cloud and it developed further until >touchdown occurred while I was on the phone to the BoM. The report of a >funnel is erroneous and BoM staff have confirmed that it was a tornado >and the report in the log was the early report of a funnel, which was >not updated. Please feel free to contact Severe Wx in BoM in Melbourne >if you disagree. > >The Euroa event was a rare occasion when a stormchaser was in place (and >at the correct location) to be able to video a tornadic occurrence that >is appears to be more frequent in Australia than previously thought. >This is the 8th occasion when tornadic activity has been videoed in >Victoria by stormchasers since 1998, and they will continue to occur - >and we will be there..... > >Jane > >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at australianskynweather.com > >Australian Sky & Weather >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >***The journey is the reward*** >-------------------------------- > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jimmy Deguara" >To: >Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries > > > > Hi, > > > > Decided to check out the weather summaries for October - well 13th >October 2002 > > > > >http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigwmenu.sh >tml > > > > Strong winds destroys two houses at Niangala > > > > > > >http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigw0802.sh >tml > > > > On the 3rd a funnel cloud was sighted at Euroa just after 4pm lasting >15-20 > > minutes. No damage was reported > > > > > > I suppose this is the scientific way of approaching it which I >congratulate > > the Bureau for. > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - >http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- >-- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:15:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Why have there been so many more reports of tornadoes in the past few years? No, it isn't because there have been that many more tornadoes, it's because there have been more and more people (ie:us weather enthusiasts, not the general public), out there videoing and recording them. This was predicted to Ray Kollmorgen (Severe Wx Victoria) in 1999. So I ask what happens if no-one reports damage....does that mean that the tornado didn't occur? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 9:00 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries > > Dear Jane, > > Can you suggest who was the expert who analysed the tornado video? Perhaps > based on the definition of funnel more than 2/3 way to the ground it could > be considered a tornado. > > Because Australia is on the other side of the world and often news does not > get to the US, some chasers including myself on other forums or using other > contacts ask for links to be included and so forth. Often the word is taken > based on face value hoping for the integrity of the report to be totally > correct. In the US, when a tornado is reported, it is followed up and > commented on based on damage reports and well trained spotter reports > > Now back earlier when this thread was operational, I did ask was a damage > assessment done no answer that I recall. Now Jane has provided an answer, > great stuff: > > "The fact that no damage was reported is quite common, as many tornadoes > touch down in areas that do not directly affect human habitation. The facts > are - the video shows everything." > > How far from town was the touchdown? I would have thought with Victoria's > road network, some evidence of damage would have occurred. > > Perhaps you are correct as the video of the tornado was not clear at the > AGM for me to analyse it and I was at the back. > > My initial assessment as a scientist would have been possible tornado or > tornadic funnel, now I have to reconsider... > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > At 07:31 PM 27/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: > >Hi Jimmy and all, > > > >Goodness, the tornado has ended up on a NOAA list of tornado events > >http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq//tornado/torpages.html as well as on the > >main page of Stormtrack http://www.stormtrack.org !!! > > > >Expert video analysis has shown that it was on the ground and that the > >condensation in the lower funnel rapidly extended upwards from the > >ground to join the funnel extending from the cloud base. Such events are > >commonly seen in tornado activity in the USA, where tornadoes can be on > >the ground without any visible funnel extending from the cloud base. The > >fact that no damage was reported is quite common, as many tornadoes > >touch down in areas that do not directly affect human habitation. The > >facts are - the video shows everything. > > > >I reported this as a funnel cloud and it developed further until > >touchdown occurred while I was on the phone to the BoM. The report of a > >funnel is erroneous and BoM staff have confirmed that it was a tornado > >and the report in the log was the early report of a funnel, which was > >not updated. Please feel free to contact Severe Wx in BoM in Melbourne > >if you disagree. > > > >The Euroa event was a rare occasion when a stormchaser was in place (and > >at the correct location) to be able to video a tornadic occurrence that > >is appears to be more frequent in Australia than previously thought. > >This is the 8th occasion when tornadic activity has been videoed in > >Victoria by stormchasers since 1998, and they will continue to occur - > >and we will be there..... > > > >Jane > > > >-------------------------------- > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne > >cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > >Australian Sky & Weather > >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > >Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > >***The journey is the reward*** > >-------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jimmy Deguara" > >To: > >Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 PM > >Subject: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Decided to check out the weather summaries for October - well 13th > >October 2002 > > > > > > > >http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigwmenu.s h > >tml > > > > > > Strong winds destroys two houses at Niangala > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigw0802.s h > >tml > > > > > > On the 3rd a funnel cloud was sighted at Euroa just after 4pm lasting > >15-20 > > > minutes. No damage was reported > > > > > > > > > I suppose this is the scientific way of approaching it which I > >congratulate > > > the Bureau for. > > > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - > >http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > > > from > > > Schofields, Sydney > > > NSW Australia > > > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > >-- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:11:02 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane & all, I would say that this typemof event will become rather more frequent now days with all of the excied chasers out there! I will have to wait til Jan to see how they wrote up the nader I captured in Yulara. :-) You've all done very well (yes Mr Grace.... ;) for thos who can remember that series....) Paul Mossman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 6:01 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries > Hi Jimmy and all, > > Goodness, the tornado has ended up on a NOAA list of tornado events > http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq//tornado/torpages.html as well as on the > main page of Stormtrack http://www.stormtrack.org !!! > > Expert video analysis has shown that it was on the ground and that the > condensation in the lower funnel rapidly extended upwards from the > ground to join the funnel extending from the cloud base. Such events are > commonly seen in tornado activity in the USA, where tornadoes can be on > the ground without any visible funnel extending from the cloud base. The > fact that no damage was reported is quite common, as many tornadoes > touch down in areas that do not directly affect human habitation. The > facts are - the video shows everything. > > I reported this as a funnel cloud and it developed further until > touchdown occurred while I was on the phone to the BoM. The report of a > funnel is erroneous and BoM staff have confirmed that it was a tornado > and the report in the log was the early report of a funnel, which was > not updated. Please feel free to contact Severe Wx in BoM in Melbourne > if you disagree. > > The Euroa event was a rare occasion when a stormchaser was in place (and > at the correct location) to be able to video a tornadic occurrence that > is appears to be more frequent in Australia than previously thought. > This is the 8th occasion when tornadic activity has been videoed in > Victoria by stormchasers since 1998, and they will continue to occur - > and we will be there..... > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jimmy Deguara" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries > > > > Hi, > > > > Decided to check out the weather summaries for October - well 13th > October 2002 > > > > > http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigwmenu.sh > tml > > > > Strong winds destroys two houses at Niangala > > > > > > > http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigw0802.sh > tml > > > > On the 3rd a funnel cloud was sighted at Euroa just after 4pm lasting > 15-20 > > minutes. No damage was reported > > > > > > I suppose this is the scientific way of approaching it which I > congratulate > > the Bureau for. > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - > http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 01:37:55 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Wx Question: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 20:31 26/12/02 +1100, you wrote: >At 04:25 PM 26/12/2002 +1300, you wrote: > >>It definitely wasn't a white Christmas here in ChCh yesyerday as I recorded >>a maximum of 29.5C in fine clear breezy North-westerly conditions. >>...However it was much colder in lower parts of the South Island where snow >>was forcasted for the Milford Road in Fiordland. Ben Tichborne our local >>"snow-man" may have more info on this. > >Since I got the location information secondhand, the exact location may be >inaccurate, but apparently it did snow somewhere in the S island. :) > >73 de Tony, VK3JED >http://vkradio.com It did snow down Fiordland way, in the SE corner of the South Island with 8cm reported near the Homer Tunnel near Milford Sound plus there was snow reported falling at Lake Tekapo, further north in "Lord of the Rings" country. Here in ChCh we were barsking in foehn NW conditions ahead of the cooler air. However, much cooler on Boxing Day. I noticed a scattering of snow along the tops of the Southern Alps this morning. (27th) All this mixture of hot and cold produced a lovely thunderstorm here in Christchurch late afternoon, Boxing day, which delighted members of the NZ Thunderstorm Society. A lovely lightning phototgraph was on the front page of the Christchurch PRESS this morning, not mine tho' Cheers JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 22:40:21 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries Good evening Jane.

Again, that was fantastic that you were in the right place at the right time to witness this event.
Your vidoe of this was shown at the (QLD) ASWA meeting a little while ago now and i can say that my jaw dropped at the sight of it, not to mention your own excitement while you were ringing it into the BoM <g>.

Absolutely unreal, these things being the holy grail of stormchasers worldwide, i give you a pat on the back and my best congratulations for being on top of the situation and cool, calm and collected (to a point) as shown by your video hehe.

Well done and my best regards.

Dale Small




on 27/12/2002 18:31, Jane ONeill at cadence at australianskynweather.com wrote:

Hi Jimmy and all,

Goodness, the tornado has ended up on a NOAA list of tornado events
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq//tornado/torpages.html as well as on the
main page of Stormtrack http://www.stormtrack.org !!!

Expert video analysis has shown that it was on the ground and that the
condensation in the lower funnel rapidly extended upwards from the
ground to join the funnel extending from the cloud base. Such events are
commonly seen in tornado activity in the USA, where tornadoes can be on
the ground without any visible funnel extending from the cloud base. The
fact that no damage was reported is quite common, as many tornadoes
touch down in areas that do not directly affect human habitation. The
facts are - the video shows everything.

I reported this as a funnel cloud and it developed further until
touchdown occurred while I was on the phone to the BoM. The report of a
funnel is erroneous and BoM staff have confirmed that it was a tornado
and the report in the log was the early report of a funnel, which was
not updated. Please feel free to contact Severe Wx in BoM in Melbourne
if you disagree.

The Euroa event was a rare occasion when a stormchaser was in place (and
at the correct location) to be able to video a tornadic occurrence that
is appears to be more frequent in Australia than previously thought.
This is the 8th occasion when tornadic activity has been videoed in
Victoria by stormchasers since 1998, and they will continue to occur -
and we will be there.....

Jane

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Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at australianskynweather.com

Australian Sky & Weather
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries


> Hi,
>
> Decided to check out the weather summaries for October - well 13th
October 2002
>
>
http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigwmenu.sh
tml
>
> Strong winds destroys two houses at Niangala
>
>
>
http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigw0802.sh
tml
>
> On the 3rd a funnel cloud was sighted at Euroa just after 4pm lasting
15-20
> minutes. No damage was reported
>
>
> I suppose this is the scientific way of approaching it which I
congratulate
> the Bureau for.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Please note the change to my new e-mail
> address:    jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com
>
> Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours -
http://www.thunderbolttours.com
> -----------------------------------------
> Jimmy Deguara
> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>
> from
> Schofields, Sydney
> NSW Australia
>
> e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com
>
> Web Page with Michael Bath
>
> Australian Severe Weather Home Page
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com
>
> Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
>
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From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: question Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 01:54:23 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Somehow I doubt it. On our National Radio programme on Xmas Day just after 3pm the group I was with(not weather watchers) burst out laughing when the announcer said "the latest forecast from Metservice is for fine weather, and this replaces the last forecast which was for rain and showers.." And this was on the day itself..
Stephen, for a longrange opinion, try www.predictweather.com after the 29th December(to see the whole of January's weather posted)
Ken
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: question

Stephen,
This should do the trick
 
 
 
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Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: aus-wx: question

 does any body know of any websites in new zearland  about the weather conditions , or any other sites that have this type of reports .
As I have friends going there for 4 weeks
Stephen
 
X-Originating-IP: [203.109.175.19] From: "John Roenfeldt" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Violent HP supercell chase Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:07:41 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2002 13:08:13.0562 (UTC) FILETIME=[03435DA0:01C2ADA9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Very nice Jimmy. John R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 4:46 PM Subject: aus-wx: Violent HP supercell chase > Hello, > > A few stills from our latest tour (23rd Dec) up on the NW slopes of NSW. > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/231202_10_sm.j pg > > This was a very powerful cyclic HP supercell. The four snips below are > associated with the same mesocyclone when the cell was in/around Boggabri. > > The first still reveals more of a classic supercell structure with wall > cloud, although, this phase of each cycle was always fairly short-lived > with the meso quickly wrapping in precip. The wall cloud had a beautiful > concave base with a small funnel at the centre of circulation - same sort > of stuff we observed in White Deer Tx although lacking in this case was > 30kt of NE inflow - hence rapid outflow dominance. > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/231202_13_sm.j pg > > These three were grabbed at least 20 minutes later - check out the bears > cage. Intense rain, hail and lightning which we had a close enconter with > during an earlier phase of the storm near Mullaley. This storm had some > incredible motion at this point; we wondered what was going on in there > that's for sure. > > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/231202_19_sm.j pg > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/231202_19_sm.j pg > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/231202_20_sm.j pg > > A small promo with a few more shots is already up. When I'm back from o/s > we (Jimmy and I) will throw a bunch of full size video stills at > www.thunderbolttours.com > > The satellite picture for those who had observed it at the time is awesome. > > David Croan and Jimmy Deguara > > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 00:12:53 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Another report Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2001/docs/200112-05.htm Thunder Down Under Chase from last year 2001 - finally done. Now I have to do this years phheww ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: TC Zoe at 900!!! Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 07:55:09 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, With Zoe running a central pressure of 900hPa this morning, does this put it close to the record lowest pressure in the southwest Pacific? Anyone have the lowest pressure of a TC in the southwest Pacific? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Darwin lightning Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 09:44:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Interesting reading
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: Fw: Daily Significant Event Imagery Report #361 December 27, 2002 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:50:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com here is some pictures of cyclone crystal and cyclone zoe from NOAA Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 7:24 AM Subject: Daily Significant Event Imagery Report #361 December 27, 2002 > Images listed below can be found together in the "../Events/Current" directory on the server: > > http://www.osei.noaa.gov/ > > You can access this directory through the "Current" button in the navigation bar of the web site. > > ------ > > Satellite information that appears in filenames below: > > G8 - GOES-8 > G10- GOES-10 > GM - GMS > MT - METEOSAT > N2 - NOAA-12 (AVHRR) > N4 - NOAA-14 (AVHRR) > N5 - NOAA-15 (AVHRR) > N6 - NOAA-16 (AVHRR) > ------ > The following categories of significant events were searched for in imagery available in the Satellite > Services Division of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration: > > > 1. Fires - no imagery posted > 2. Floods - no imagery posted > 3. Tropical Systems - see below** [Indian Ocean and West Pacific Ocean] > 4. Volcanoes - see below > 5. Ocean - no imagery posted > 6. Ice - no imagery posted > 7. Dust Storms - no imagery posted > 8. Storms - see below > 9. Severe - no imagery posted > 10. Snow - no imagery posted > 11. Unique - no imagery posted > > Significant events identified by Satellite Analysis Branch meteorologists and reviewed by the > Operational Significant Event Imagery support team Friday, December 27, 2002 are as follows: > > > ---------- > > Happy Holidays to everyone from the OSEI team!!! > > ---------- > > > TROPICAL CYCLONE 05S (CRYSTAL) > > IMAGE: D36101: EUMETSAT METEOSAT <> 12/27/2002 10:00 UTC<>Multichannel color > composite<>Indian Ocean > > Tropical Cyclone 05S (Crystal) was located over the Indian Ocean near 20.3S 59.7E at 03:00 UTC. > Crystal has been moving southward at 7 knots with maximum sustained winds estimated at 90 knots, > gusts to 110 knots. > > > Image provided in preview (~65K) and standard (577K) formats. > > Preview (500X399) > > {http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Tropical/IndOcean/2002/TRCcrystal361_MTL.jp g} > http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Tropical/IndOcean/2002/TRCcrystal361_MTL.jpg > > > Standard (1280X1022) > > {http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Tropical/IndOcean/2002/TRCcrystal361_MT.jpg } > http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Tropical/IndOcean/2002/TRCcrystal361_MT.jpg > > > > ---------- > > > > TROPICAL CYCLONE 06P (ZOE) > > IMAGE: D36102: GMS <> 12/27/2002 04:25 UTC<>Multichannel color composite<>West Pacific > Ocean > > Tropical Cyclone 06P (Zoe) was located over the Western Pacific Ocean near 11.1S 172.6E at 03:00 > UTC. Zoe has been moving west-southwestward at 8 knots with maximum sustained winds estimated > at 95 knots, gusts to 115 knots. > > > > Image provided in preview (~65K) and standard (577K) formats. > > Preview (500X399) > > {http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Tropical/W_Pacific/2002/TRCzoe361_GML.jpg} > http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Tropical/W_Pacific/2002/TRCzoe361_GML.jpg > > > Standard (1280X1022) > > {http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Tropical/W_Pacific/2002/TRCzoe361_GM.jpg} > http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Tropical/W_Pacific/2002/TRCzoe361_GM.jpg > > > > ---------- > > The NOAA Operational Significant Event Imagery Support Team > Interactive Processing Branch, (E/SP22) > tel: (301) 763-8142 > fax: (301) 899-9196 > > If you have any questions or comments, please contact the appropriate OSEI scientist: > > > George Stephens, Hydrologist, OSEI Team Leader > [OSEI questions / comments, OSEI product creation, Image processing, OSEI dust event contact, > OSEI fire event contact, OSEI snow cover event contact, OSEI volcanic event contact] > George.Stephens at noaa.gov > (301) 763-8142 X129 > > Robert Fennimore, Meteorologist > [OSEI questions / comments, OSEI product creation, Image processing, OSEI GIS product > contact, OSEI tropical event contact, OSEI snow event contact] > Rob.Fennimore at noaa.gov > (301) 763-8142 X132 > > Ralph Meiggs, Physical Scientist > [OSEI questions / comments, Image processing, OSEI ocean event contact, OSEI ice event > contact] > Ralph.Meiggs at noaa.gov > (301) 763-8142 X137 > > William Tseng, Oceanographer > [OSEI questions / comments, Image processing, OSEI ocean event contact, OSEI ice event > contact] > William.Tseng at noaa.gov > (301) 763-8142 X124 > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: aus-wx: Tropical cyclone zoe Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 09:48:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Tropical cyclone zoe is moving westsouthwes about 6 knts 900 hpa cat 5 wind gust up 310 kms/hour this system will turn to the south east by late today. this is the biggest system i have every sean in my life time. if this ever made landfall you you see what it would do to a town.
Michael Wright
(nature cant stop anything in its path)
From: "Shane Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: TC Zoe at 900!!! Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 10:06:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane, I would say this one takes the record as being the lowest. Shane -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jane ONeill Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 6:55 AM To: Aussie-wx Subject: aus-wx: TC Zoe at 900!!! Morning all, With Zoe running a central pressure of 900hPa this morning, does this put it close to the record lowest pressure in the southwest Pacific? Anyone have the lowest pressure of a TC in the southwest Pacific? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:58:11 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: TC Zoe at 900!!! X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com According to the guys at JTWC, this is the most intense SH TC in their records. If it reaches the 170 knots (under 870HPa) they have forecast at 2812Z, it will be the most intense system ever monitored by them, beating STY Tip (165 knots) of 1979 which was monitored by recon aircraft. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Shane Williams" To: Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 10:06:02 +1000 Subject: RE: aus-wx: TC Zoe at 900!!! > Hi Jane, I would say this one takes the record as being the lowest. > Shane > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jane ONeill > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 6:55 AM > To: Aussie-wx > Subject: aus-wx: TC Zoe at 900!!! > > > Morning all, > > With Zoe running a central pressure of 900hPa this morning, does this > put it close to the record lowest pressure in the southwest Pacific? > Anyone have the lowest pressure of a TC in the southwest Pacific? > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:17:47 +1000 To: aussie-weather-list From: Carl Smith Subject: aus-wx: TC ZOE satpic animation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. You will find a colourful satpic animation of TC Zoe at: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ImagesTemp/ZoeSatpicLoop.gif - for best results download it into your computer and use an image viewer capable of using the precise colour table of each frame, as the colour palettes in most browsers are inadequate to show the subtleties of colour tones and hence the full detail in the images. CIMSS GMS5 IR (red channel) and WV (inv. blue channel) images were combined (diff. inv. green channel) to create the colours in Photoshop. The clear blue eye centre in the final frame is outstanding even at the scale of these images. I will update it again when I get a chance. Regards, Carl. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: Weathergraph chart is now a free download Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 04:20:16 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Those on the list with an interest in the nitty-gritty of forecasting, observation and chart interpretation should download this and print. It packs a huge amount of reference information into 2 A4 pages. You just need to do some mental conversion from northern to southern hemisphere for some of the progging rules and related stuff. Tim posted the original message to the Digital Atmosphere wx-soft mailing list. Laurier -----Original Message----- From: Tim Vasquez [mailto:tim at weathergraphics.com] Sent: Friday, 27 December, 2002 18:53 To: wx-software at yahoogroups.com Subject: [WX-SOFT] Weathergraph chart is now a free download The Weathergraph meteorological reference chart is now being offered as a free download: http://www.weathergraphics.com/wg I've decided to discontinue the laminated paper format as it is time-consuming and uses a lot of ink. It's also been out of stock for a couple of months, so anyone who's had it on backorder will get refunded if any money was drawn for it. Enjoy! Tim Vasquez To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: wx-software-unsubscribe at egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
with regards to detecting lighting
is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it higher than 0.3 volts
 
Stephen
 
From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:39:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
No offence but. Huh?????
 
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with regards to detecting lighting
is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it higher than 0.3 volts
 
Stephen
 
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:19:53 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going from my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to several million volts of PD (potential difference). Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "stephen galowski" To: Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting > with regards to detecting lighting > is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it > higher than 0.3 volts > > Stephen > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:24:10 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: TC Zoe at 900!!! X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I meant most intense SPAC not SH: I misquoted them and haven't checked elsewhere. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:58:11 +0800 Subject: RE: aus-wx: TC Zoe at 900!!! > According to the guys at JTWC, this is the most intense SH TC in their > records. If it reaches the 170 knots (under 870HPa) they have forecast > at 2812Z, it will be the most intense system ever monitored by them, > beating STY Tip (165 knots) of 1979 which was monitored by recon > aircraft. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Shane Williams" > To: > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 10:06:02 +1000 > Subject: RE: aus-wx: TC Zoe at 900!!! > > > Hi Jane, I would say this one takes the record as being the lowest. > > Shane > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jane > ONeill > > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 6:55 AM > > To: Aussie-wx > > Subject: aus-wx: TC Zoe at 900!!! > > > > > > Morning all, > > > > With Zoe running a central pressure of 900hPa this morning, does this > > put it close to the record lowest pressure in the southwest Pacific? > > Anyone have the lowest pressure of a TC in the southwest Pacific? > > > > Jane > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Cyclone Zoe Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 22:01:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
now 890 millibars as per
 
 
latest analysis
 
 
 
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From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 22:50:12 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
Darwin had a tornado here this morning. My footage featured on the Local News (Channel 9).
 
 
Anyone that may have saved Darwin Local for 23UTC 27 dec to 01 UTC 28 Dec I would love a copy please. :)
 
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Subject: aus-wx: Cyclone Zoe

now 890 millibars as per
 
 
latest analysis
 
 
 
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From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 22:56:32 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Apologies - got the link wrong.
 
 
hehe here it is. :-)
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:50 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado

Hi all,
 
Darwin had a tornado here this morning. My footage featured on the Local News (Channel 9).
 
 
Anyone that may have saved Darwin Local for 23UTC 27 dec to 01 UTC 28 Dec I would love a copy please. :)
 
Paul Mossman
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:31 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cyclone Zoe

now 890 millibars as per
 
 
latest analysis
 
 
 
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From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 02:00:09 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Paul,
 
VERY HEARTY CONGRATULATIONS on behalf of all ASWA members & stormchasers in Victoria.  Another successful 'capture' for an ASWA photographer!!!!!....just going to prove that there will be more and more successful severe weather 'captures' in the future.
 
EXCELLENTLY DONE!!!
 
Cheers,
 
Jane

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Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 12:20 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado

Hi all,
 
Darwin had a tornado here this morning. My footage featured on the Local News (Channel 9).
 
 
Anyone that may have saved Darwin Local for 23UTC 27 dec to 01 UTC 28 Dec I would love a copy please. :)
 
Paul Mossman
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:31 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cyclone Zoe

now 890 millibars as per
 
 
latest analysis
 
 
 
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User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 03:56:18 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado Well done Paul and congrats for being in the right place at the right time.
I have read your report and pix on Wz..

Who says Australia never has tornados (or waterspouts for that matter)..


Congrats again.



Dale
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 08:54:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com To play devils advocate I think the same scientific reasoning can be applied to the LP supercells that seem to be seen by other chasers . Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 PM Subject: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries > Hi, > > Decided to check out the weather summaries for October - well 13th October 2002 > > http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigwmenu.shtml > > Strong winds destroys two houses at Niangala > > > http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigw0802.shtml > > On the 3rd a funnel cloud was sighted at Euroa just after 4pm lasting 15-20 > minutes. No damage was reported > > > I suppose this is the scientific way of approaching it which I congratulate > the Bureau for. > > Jimmy Deguara > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "dann weatherhead" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 10:11:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Great stuff Paul! Nice coverage of the entire phenomena.
 
Congrats again!
 
dann
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Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 12:20 AM
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Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado

Hi all,
 
Darwin had a tornado here this morning. My footage featured on the Local News (Channel 9).
 
 
Anyone that may have saved Darwin Local for 23UTC 27 dec to 01 UTC 28 Dec I would love a copy please. :)
 
Paul Mossman
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:31 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cyclone Zoe

now 890 millibars as per
 
 
latest analysis
 
 
 
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X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 10:25:09 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul, Great that you were able to get in a position for touch down - nothing like confirmation. This has an excellent structure similar to what was reported in the Port Headland tornado a few years back. You could see dense condensation all the way close to the ground level as well behind the buildings. Nice debri cloud as well. I will study the data and report soon when I get time. You beauty. Jimmy Deguara At 10:56 PM 28/12/2002 +0930, you wrote: >Apologies - got the link wrong. > >http://www.crosstravel.com.au/28Dec.htm > >hehe here it is. :-) > >Paul Mossman >NT State ASWA Rep >Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum >email: ntstorms at bigpond.com >MSN: ntstorms at hotmail.com >ICQ: 111144666 >Mobile: 0401115483 >----- Original Message ----- >From: Paul Mossman >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:50 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado > >Hi all, > >Darwin had a tornado here this morning. My footage featured on the Local >News (Channel 9). > >Here is the >report: >http://www.crosstravel.com.au/Dec28.htm > > >Anyone that may have saved Darwin Local for 23UTC 27 dec to 01 UTC 28 Dec >I would love a copy please. :) > >Paul Mossman >NT State ASWA Rep >Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum >email: ntstorms at bigpond.com >MSN: ntstorms at hotmail.com >ICQ: 111144666 >Mobile: 0401115483 >----- Original Message ----- >From: Keith Barnett >To: Weather list >Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:31 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Cyclone Zoe > >now 890 millibars as per > >http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/0641.html > > >latest analysis > >http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/20031.txt > > > >Keith Barnett >Weather fanatic and classical musician >Website: http://www.wthrman.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >This message has been scanned by Norton AntiVirus 2002 and is certified to >be virus free. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 10:26:39 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, Can you explain further? Jimmy Deguara At 08:54 AM 29/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >To play devils advocate I think the same scientific reasoning can be applied >to the LP supercells that seem to be seen by other chasers . > > >Michael > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jimmy Deguara" >To: >Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries > > > > Hi, > > > > Decided to check out the weather summaries for October - well 13th October >2002 > > > > >http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigwmenu.shtml > > > > Strong winds destroys two houses at Niangala > > > > > > >http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigw0802.shtml > > > > On the 3rd a funnel cloud was sighted at Euroa just after 4pm lasting >15-20 > > minutes. No damage was reported > > > > > > I suppose this is the scientific way of approaching it which I >congratulate > > the Bureau for. > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 13:29:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI. With access to GPATS lightning tracking.. if you understand AMPS (current) .. ive seen registered bolts of 500,000 amps.. Considering your normal power point can only handle 10 AMPS.. its alot of power... 300 milli amps will certainly kill you.. Amazes me how anyone can survive a lightning strike. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:19 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting > If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going from > my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if > this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to > several million volts of PD (potential difference). > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "stephen galowski" > To: > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000 > Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting > > > with regards to detecting lighting > > is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it > > higher than 0.3 volts > > > > Stephen > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Konnecke" To: Subject: aus-wx: WA TORNADO Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 14:08:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Has anyone see this ! It happened in WA at 4pm yeasterday according to reports.
 
 
Peter
(New Year Resolution : To become more active in this group)
From: "Peter Matters" To: Subject: aus-wx: Zoe's first casualties:-(( Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 14:28:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

No word from Pacific island hit by cyclone

Officials on Solomon Islands say all contact has been lost with the tiny Polynesian island of Tikopia because of Cyclone Zoe.

Zoe is listed as an extremely dangerous category five cyclone and Tikopia was almost directly in its path.

Solomons authorities say they are worried about the fate of the islanders but will not know how badly they were hit until the storm has passed.

Zoe is expected to pass the south coast of Fiji's main island of Viti Levu before heading toward Tonga.

 

Peter

Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 13:58:38 +1030 From: Richard Albury User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Phil Smith wrote: >If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going from >my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if >this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to >several million volts of PD (potential difference). > >Phil ><>< >Hi Phil - all > In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the voltage is in the 100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the pressure. What causes most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be measured in the millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current and is the amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. Volts is the amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't have 1 without the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge the gap in the sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the voltage from 12 volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the expense of amperage which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal to 80 amps at the points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's it simplified - it's a little more complicated than that however that is the basic principle. With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and electricity takes the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. Most thunderstorms generate static electricity in the millions of amps constantly , most of which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and only when the potential is so great does the static electricity discharge to the earth. We see that as a lightning bolt. Thus endeth the lecture lolol For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts yet the amount of current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in short it can give one a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 amp the current can be lethal irrespective of voltage applied. I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing much however I am still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final dispersal, however that applies to meteorology in general. Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent photographs you have put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. Thank you all for your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone a Happy New Year *HUGS* Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: "stephen galowski" >To: >Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000 >Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting > > > >>with regards to detecting lighting >>is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it >>higher than 0.3 volts >> >>Stephen >> >> >> > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >. > > > From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Zoe's first casualties:-(( Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 13:54:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
peter matters
Do you know if they need emergency communication
Stephen
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No word from Pacific island hit by cyclone

Officials on Solomon Islands say all contact has been lost with the tiny Polynesian island of Tikopia because of Cyclone Zoe.

Zoe is listed as an extremely dangerous category five cyclone and Tikopia was almost directly in its path.

Solomons authorities say they are worried about the fate of the islanders but will not know how badly they were hit until the storm has passed.

Zoe is expected to pass the south coast of Fiji's main island of Viti Levu before heading toward Tonga.

 

Peter

Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:11:15 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: WA TORNADO Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
um, yeah, that happened back on the 26th
 
richard
 
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Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:00:05 PM
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Has anyone see this ! It happened in WA at 4pm yeasterday according to reports.
 
 
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80 AMPS AT THE POINTS, LOLOLOLOL, 
not bloody likley.
you can quite happily weld at 80 amps with a 12 guage rod,
imagine how long your points would last.
 
Richard
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Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:08:51 PM
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Phil Smith wrote:
If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going from 
my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if 
this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to 
several million volts of PD (potential difference).

Phil
<><
Hi Phil - all

In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the voltage is in the 100's  of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the pressure. What causes most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be measured in the millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current and  is the amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. Volts  is the amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't have 1 without the other.  it takes approx  80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge the gap in the sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the voltage from 12 volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the expense of amperage which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal to 80 amps at the points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's it simplified - it's a little more complicated than that however that is the basic principle. With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and electricity takes the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. Most thunderstorms generate static electricity in the millions of amps constantly , most of which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and only when the potential is so great does the static electricity discharge to the earth. We see that as a lightning bolt.

Thus endeth the lecture lolol

For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts yet the amount of current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in short it can give one a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 amp the current can be lethal irrespective of voltage applied.  

I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing much however I am still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final dispersal, however that applies to meteorology in general.

Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent photographs  you have  put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. Thank you all for your Re aus-wx Lightning for the b.ems hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone a Happy New Year

*HUGS*  

Richard  Kurralta Park. Sth Australia.


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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000
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with regards to detecting lighting 
is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it
higher than 0.3 volts 

Stephen 

    

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Hello Paul. I  am truly flabbergasted at the quality of some of your footage of the Darwin Tornado/waterspout, some of the images of the concentric circles associated with the waterspout stage are some of the best I have seen, there was an opinion not that long ago that tornadoes were rare if not absent from tropical regions, again another episode without significant shear..... The funnel appears associated with very strong low to mid level vorticity and updrafts not uncommon with very moist low to mid level environs ... again congratulations and best wishes .... Clyve Herbert....
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Apologies - got the link wrong.
 
 
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Hi all,
 
Darwin had a tornado here this morning. My footage featured on the Local News (Channel 9).
 
 
Anyone that may have saved Darwin Local for 23UTC 27 dec to 01 UTC 28 Dec I would love a copy please. :)
 
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now 890 millibars as per
 
 
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From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:18:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Dec 2002 06:21:14.0530 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D364820:01C2AF02] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael. I have to agree with your comments, the appearance of some storms can take a bit of working out, I stood in front of an LP in northern NSW last year and I studied it for about 15 minutes before I would suggest what category to place it ( eventually a true rotating LP supercell) The difficulty is when and at what stage can you actually categorise any storm!, as all storms move through various stages of intensity,LP supercells are possibly more common than we thought within the Australian region, so far most supercells I have seen over the interior of Aus are what appear to be LP but some transit though to the classic and sometimes into HP types, more often than not there seems to be a mixture of all three at other times. The Casino HP coexisted with an LP on its north-western side!. Personally I am very cautious when definitely trying to categories any storm. The best LP I have seen in Australia (true LP) was at Chinchilla in November 2001 and provided some of the best footage of an Australian LP I have ever seen. Best wishes Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Thompson To: Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 8:54 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries > To play devils advocate I think the same scientific reasoning can be applied > to the LP supercells that seem to be seen by other chasers . > > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jimmy Deguara" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries > > > > Hi, > > > > Decided to check out the weather summaries for October - well 13th October > 2002 > > > > > http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigwmenu.shtml > > > > Strong winds destroys two houses at Niangala > > > > > > > http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigw0802.shtml > > > > On the 3rd a funnel cloud was sighted at Euroa just after 4pm lasting > 15-20 > > minutes. No damage was reported > > > > > > I suppose this is the scientific way of approaching it which I > congratulate > > the Bureau for. > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:52:11 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

EXCELLENT structure and photos!!! Congratulations (you lucky bastard!)

 

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Apologies - got the link wrong.

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:50 PM

Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado

 

Hi all,

 

Darwin had a tornado here this morning. My footage featured on the Local News (Channel 9).

 

 

Anyone that may have saved Darwin Local for 23UTC 27 dec to 01 UTC 28 Dec I would love a copy please. :)

 

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now 890 millibars as per

 

 

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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 14:56:25 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Agree with Richard. Whatever the Amps are at the plug, they not much. Years ago a bloke was skiting away to a group of us about how wonderfully his Model A Ford was running and how "nothing could stop it," so I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the heads of his four spark plugs and stopped it instantly. (Nearly shook my arms off in the process, but it worked!). If there was 80 amps there I would've been dead! (I nearly was at the hands of the Ford owner, but then that's another story!). Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Richard Modistach" To: Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:19:21 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) > 80 AMPS AT THE POINTS, LOLOLOLOL, > not bloody likley. > you can quite happily weld at 80 amps with a 12 guage rod, > imagine how long your points would last. > > Richard > naracoorte > > -------Original Message------- > > From: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:08:51 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) > > > > Phil Smith wrote: > > If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going > from > my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if > this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to > several million volts of PD (potential difference). > > Phil > <>< > Hi Phil - all > > In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the voltage is in > the > 100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the pressure. What > causes > most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be measured in > the > millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current and is the > amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. Volts is > the > amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't have 1 > without > the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge the gap in > the > sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the voltage from 12 > volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the expense of > amperage > which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal to 80 amps at > the > points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's it simplified > - it > s a little more complicated than that however that is the basic > principle. > With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and electricity > takes > the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. Most > thunderstorms > generate static electricity in the millions of amps constantly , most > of > which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and only when the > potential > is so great does the static electricity discharge to the earth. We see > that > as a lightning bolt. > > Thus endeth the lecture lolol > > For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts yet the > amount of > current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in short it can give > one > a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 amp the current > can > be lethal irrespective of voltage applied. > > I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing much however I > am > still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final dispersal, > however that applies to meteorology in general. > > Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent photographs you > have > put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. Thank you > all for > your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone a Happy New > Year > > *HUGS* > > Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "stephen galowski" > To: > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000 > Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting > > > with regards to detecting lighting > is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it > higher than 0.3 volts > > Stephen > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > > . > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.220.168.77] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for some... Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 18:09:05 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Dec 2002 07:09:05.0475 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C6DB930:01C2AF09] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Richard et al, Hmmnnnn....So let me get this right....you step up 12 volts to 6000 volts and amperage goes from 300 A to 80A? I'll believe 80 milli-amps maybe.... Ever heard of Ohms' Law? Voltage is pressure? News to me...(though it's probably news to lotsa people...) Don't think...try that it's the energy that each coulomb of charge has...i.e. to do a student analogy....think of objects that roll downhill under gravitational potential...the higher up it rolls from the more energy it has at the bottom....same with electricity....the more energy it has at the "higher end" the geater the potential difference. Now air is a really good insulator...so it takes a GREAT deal of potential difference to bridge nearly any sort of gap in air....so I'll go with hundreds of thousands and millions of volts (p.d.) to jump the gap...but the amperage will decrease as the resistance is so great.. Yep....people get killed by lightning...but considering the numbers being used it's not terrifically good at it...most people don't get killed by ligfhtning because of flash-surface burning...i.e. it's still easier for the current to go over the surface of the human body than through the "guts"...unless of course you're out on the golf course holding an iron above your head! :)) Cheers, Kevin from Wycheproof. >From: Richard Albury >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) >Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 13:58:38 +1030 > > > >Phil Smith wrote: > >>If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going from >>my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if this >>is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to several >>million volts of PD (potential difference). >> >>Phil >><>< >>Hi Phil - all >> > >In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the voltage is in the >100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the pressure. What causes >most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be measured in the >millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current and is the >amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. Volts is the >amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't have 1 without >the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge the gap in the >sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the voltage from 12 >volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the expense of amperage >which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal to 80 amps at the >points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's it simplified - >it's a little more complicated than that however that is the basic >principle. With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and >electricity takes the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. >Most thunderstorms generate static electricity in the millions of amps >constantly , most of which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and >only when the potential is so great does the static electricity discharge >to the earth. We see that as a lightning bolt. > >Thus endeth the lecture lolol > >For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts yet the amount >of current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in short it can give >one a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 amp the current >can be lethal irrespective of voltage applied. > >I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing much however I am >still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final dispersal, >however that applies to meteorology in general. > >Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent photographs you have >put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. Thank you all >for your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone a Happy New >Year > >*HUGS* > >Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia. > >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: "stephen galowski" >>To: >>Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000 >>Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting >> >> >> >>>with regards to detecting lighting is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for >>>most of the dection or is it >>>higher than 0.3 volts >>> >>>Stephen >>> >>> >>> >> >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>message. >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >>. >> >> >> > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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Hi Clyve,
 
Thanks for your kind comments. I would appreciate if you could have a look and see if you can pick the significant indicator. For me it appears the LFC level was the pointer. Everything else is "normal".
 
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Hello Paul. I  am truly flabbergasted at the quality of some of your footage of the Darwin Tornado/waterspout, some of the images of the concentric circles associated with the waterspout stage are some of the best I have seen, there was an opinion not that long ago that tornadoes were rare if not absent from tropical regions, again another episode without significant shear..... The funnel appears associated with very strong low to mid level vorticity and updrafts not uncommon with very moist low to mid level environs ... again congratulations and best wishes .... Clyve Herbert....
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Apologies - got the link wrong.
 
 
hehe here it is. :-)
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:50 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado

Hi all,
 
Darwin had a tornado here this morning. My footage featured on the Local News (Channel 9).
 
 
Anyone that may have saved Darwin Local for 23UTC 27 dec to 01 UTC 28 Dec I would love a copy please. :)
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:31 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cyclone Zoe

now 890 millibars as per
 
 
latest analysis
 
 
 
Keith Barnett
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From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 18:21:55 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com " I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the heads of his four spark plugs" Nevertheless, that was a very dangerous thing to do. While the current may not kill you- the induced involuntary muscle movement due to external electrical stimulation could EASILY cause you to put a hand in the radiator fan or something. I know about this all to well, while adjusting the timing on a running engine, I brushed the spark plug lead (note you don't actually need to touch the metal parts to get a shock.) My arm flinched and recoiled involuntarily at the shock and deeply cut my hand on a bit of the metal. I STRONGLY suggest that no body attempts to do this. Besides which, it gives u a nasty shock! James James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2002 5:56 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Agree with Richard. Whatever the Amps are at the plug, they not much. Years ago a bloke was skiting away to a group of us about how wonderfully his Model A Ford was running and how "nothing could stop it," so I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the heads of his four spark plugs and stopped it instantly. (Nearly shook my arms off in the process, but it worked!). If there was 80 amps there I would've been dead! (I nearly was at the hands of the Ford owner, but then that's another story!). Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Richard Modistach" To: Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:19:21 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) > 80 AMPS AT THE POINTS, LOLOLOLOL, > not bloody likley. > you can quite happily weld at 80 amps with a 12 guage rod, > imagine how long your points would last. > > Richard > naracoorte > > -------Original Message------- > > From: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:08:51 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) > > > > Phil Smith wrote: > > If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going > from > my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if > this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to > several million volts of PD (potential difference). > > Phil > <>< > Hi Phil - all > > In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the voltage is in > the > 100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the pressure. What > causes > most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be measured in > the > millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current and is the > amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. Volts is > the > amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't have 1 > without > the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge the gap in > the > sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the voltage from 12 > volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the expense of > amperage > which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal to 80 amps at > the > points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's it simplified > - it > s a little more complicated than that however that is the basic > principle. > With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and electricity > takes > the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. Most > thunderstorms > generate static electricity in the millions of amps constantly , most > of > which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and only when the > potential > is so great does the static electricity discharge to the earth. We see > that > as a lightning bolt. > > Thus endeth the lecture lolol > > For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts yet the > amount of > current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in short it can give > one > a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 amp the current > can > be lethal irrespective of voltage applied. > > I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing much however I > am > still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final dispersal, > however that applies to meteorology in general. > > Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent photographs you > have > put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. Thank you > all for > your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone a Happy New > Year > > *HUGS* > > Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "stephen galowski" > To: > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000 > Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting > > > with regards to detecting lighting > is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it > higher than 0.3 volts > > Stephen > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > > . > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 18:06:24 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
not to mention if you've got an unknown heart condition.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 5:59:10 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
 
" I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the heads of
his four spark plugs"

Nevertheless, that was a very dangerous thing to do. While the current
may not kill you- the induced involuntary muscle movement due to
external electrical stimulation could EASILY cause you to put a hand in
the radiator fan or something.

I know about this all to well, while adjusting the timing on a running
engine, I brushed the spark plug lead (note you don't actually need to
touch the metal parts to get a shock.) My arm flinched and recoiled
involuntarily at the shock and deeply cut my hand on a bit of the metal.

I STRONGLY suggest that no body attempts to do this. Besides which, it
gives u a nasty shock!

James

James Holbeach
--------------------------------
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Mt. Hotham, Australia
ph. 0417 553 757
http://www.trapdoor.com.au
--------------------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Phil Smith
Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2002 5:56 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

Agree with Richard. Whatever the Amps are at the plug, they not much.
Years ago a bloke was skiting away to a group of us about how
wonderfully his Model A Ford was running and how "nothing could stop
it," so I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the heads of
his four spark plugs and stopped it instantly. (Nearly shook my arms
off in the process, but it worked!).
If there was 80 amps there I would've been dead! (I nearly was at the
hands of the Ford owner, but then that's another story!).

Phil
<>&lRE aus-wx Lightning for the b.ems t;

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Richard Modistach" <hambone at dodo.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:19:21 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

> 80 AMPS AT THE POINTS, LOLOLOLOL,

> not bloody likley.

> you can quite happily weld at 80 amps with a 12 guage rod,

> imagine how long your points would last.

>

> Richard

> naracoorte

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: aussie-weather at world.std.com

> Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:08:51 PM

> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

> Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

>

>

>

> Phil Smith wrote:

>

> If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going
> from

> my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if

> this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to

> several million volts of PD (potential difference).

>

> Phil

> <><
> Hi Phil - all

>

> In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the voltage is in
> the
> 100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the pressure. What
> causes
> most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be measured in
> the
> millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current and is the
> amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. Volts is
> the
> amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't have 1
> without
> the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge the gap
in
> the
> sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the voltage from
12
> volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the expense of
> amperage
> which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal to 80 amps at
> the
> points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's it simplified
> - it
> s a little more complicated than that however that is the basic
> principle.
> With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and electricity
> takes
> the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. Most
> thunderstorms
> generate static electricity in the millions of amps constantly , most
> of
> which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and only when the
> potential
> is so great does the static electricity discharge to the earth. We see
> that
> as a lightning bolt.

>

> Thus endeth the lecture lolol

>

> For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts yet the
> amount of
> current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in short it can
give
> one
> a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 amp the
current
> can
> be lethal irrespective of voltage applied.

>

> I'm a general meteorologisRE aus-wx Lightning for the b.ems t and not into storm chasing much however I
> am
> still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final dispersal,
> however that applies to meteorology in general.

>

> Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent photographs you
> have
> put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. Thank you
> all for
> your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone a Happy New
> Year

>

> *HUGS*

>

> Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia.

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: "stephen galowski" <sgalow at ihug.com.au>

> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>

> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000

> Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting

>

>

> with regards to detecting lighting

> is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it

> higher than 0.3 volts

>

> Stephen

>

>

>

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lololol phil, i've seen it done with a 1cyl stationary engine,
never had the guts to do it myself,
your balls are bigger than mine.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 5:38:23 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
 
Agree with Richard. Whatever the Amps are at the plug, they not much.
Years ago a bloke was skiting away to a group of us about how
wonderfully his Model A Ford was running and how "nothing could stop
it," so I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the heads of
his four spark plugs and stopped it instantly. (Nearly shook my arms
off in the process, but it worked!).
If there was 80 amps there I would've been dead! (I nearly was at the
hands of the Ford owner, but then that's another story!).

Phil
<><

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Richard Modistach" <hambone at dodo.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:19:21 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

> 80 AMPS AT THE POINTS, LOLOLOLOL,

> not bloody likley.

> you can quite happily weld at 80 amps with a 12 guage rod,

> imagine how long your points would last.

>

> Richard

> naracoorte

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: aussie-weather at world.std.com

> Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:08:51 PM

> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

> Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

>

>

>

> Phil Smith wrote:

>

> If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going
> from

> my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if

> this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to

> several million volts of PD (potential difference).

>

> Phil

> <><

> Hi Phil - all

>

> In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the voltage is in
> the
> 100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the pressure. What
> causes
> most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be measured in
> the
> millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current and is the
> amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. Volts is
> the
> amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't have 1
> without
> the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge the gap in
> the
> sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the voltage from 12
> volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the expense of
> amperage
> which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal to 80 amps at
> the
> points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's it simplified
> - it
> s a little more complicated than that however that is the basic
> principle.
> With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and electricity
> takes
> the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. Most
> thunderstorms
> generate static electricity in the millions of amps constantly , most
> of
> which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and only when the
> potential
> is sRe aus-wx Lightning for the b.ems o great does the static electricity discharge to the earth. We see
> that
> as a lightning bolt.

>

> Thus endeth the lecture lolol

>

> For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts yet the
> amount of
> current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in short it can give
> one
> a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 amp the current
> can
> be lethal irrespective of voltage applied.

>

> I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing much however I
> am
> still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final dispersal,
> however that applies to meteorology in general.

>

> Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent photographs you
> have
> put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. Thank you
> all for
> your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone a Happy New
> Year

>

> *HUGS*

>

> Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia.

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: "stephen galowski" <sgalow at ihug.com.au>

> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>

> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000

> Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting

>

>

> with regards to detecting lighting

> is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it

> higher than 0.3 volts

>

> Stephen

>

>

>

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lolol, this is a weather site, i'm not going into auto electrics, it's far more involved than that simplistic view, coils have ballast resistors and are current limiting in themselves, enough, sorry about the off topic.
 
for wx, things are looking good here for me tomorrow arvo, avn plugin's got cape
of 12-1500, LIs better than -6 and P-Water of 50-55mm,
if this Ac rubbish clears away by morning i could be in for quite a treat.
 
richard 
naracoorte
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 5:48:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for some...
 
Hi Richard et al,

Hmmnnnn....So let me get this right....you step up 12 volts to 6000 volts
and amperage goes from 300 A to 80A? I'll believe 80 milli-amps maybe....

Ever heard of Ohms' Law?


Voltage is pressure? News to me...(though it's probably news to lotsa
people...)

Don't think...try that it's the energy that each coulomb of charge
has...i.e. to do a student analogy....think of objects that roll downhill
under gravitational potential...the higher up it rolls from the more energy
it has at the bottom....same with electricity....the more energy it has at
the "higher end" the geater the potential difference. Now air is a really
good insulator...so it takes a GREAT deal of potential difference to bridge
nearly any sort of gap in air....so I'll go with hundreds of thousands and
millions of volts (p.d.) to jump the gap...but the amperage will decrease as
the resistance is so great..

Yep....people get killed by lightning...but considering the numbers being
used it's not terrifically good at it...most people don't get killed by
ligfhtning because of flash-surface burning...i.e. it's still easier for the
current to go over the surface of the human body than through the
"guts"...unless of course you're out on the golf course holding an iron
above your head! :))

Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.





>From: Richard Albury <ra7167 at chariot.net.au>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
>Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 13:58:38 +1030
>
>
>
>Phil Smith wrote:
>
>>If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going from
>>my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someRe aus-wx Lightning for some..ems one please correct me if this
>>is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to several
>>million volts of PD (potential difference).
>>
>>Phil
>><><
>>Hi Phil - all
>>
>
>In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the voltage is in the
>100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the pressure. What causes
>most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be measured in the
>millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current and is the
>amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. Volts is the
>amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't have 1 without
>the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge the gap in the
>sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the voltage from 12
>volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the expense of amperage
>which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal to 80 amps at the
>points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's it simplified -
>it's a little more complicated than that however that is the basic
>principle. With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and
>electricity takes the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt.
>Most thunderstorms generate static electricity in the millions of amps
>constantly , most of which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and
>only when the potential is so great does the static electricity discharge
>to the earth. We see that as a lightning bolt.
>
>Thus endeth the lecture lolol
>
>For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts yet the amount
>of current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in short it can give
>one a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 amp the current
>can be lethal irrespective of voltage applied.>
>I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing much however I am
>still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final dispersal,
>however that applies to meteorology in general.
>
>Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent photographs you have
>put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. Thank you all
>for your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone a Happy New
>Year
>
>*HUGS*
>
>Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: "stephen galowski" <sgalow at ihug.com.au>
>>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>>Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000
>>Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting
>>
>>
>>
>>>with regards to detecting lighting is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for
>>>most of the dection or is it
>>>higher than 0.3 volts
>>>
>>>Stephen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Embedded Content: IMSTP35.gif: 00000001,2752cd63,00000000,00000000 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) From: Rhett Blanch To: "aussie-weather at world . std . com" Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:01:28 +1100 Subject: Re: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Me thinks that the devil may be advocating that not all the storms that are being reported by chasers as LP's are in fact LP's (or supercells as all)! I would tend to agree, as there is not a clear classification system in place as far as I can tell. Other branches of the earth sciences have clear systems for categorising natural phenomena, where each specific example has to meet all criteria (a check list of sorts) to be classified as a particular type. Unless you do this sort of thing - giving the evidence, checking the example against a list of set criteria then any claim to have seen an LP or another type of storm is more art than science. Rhett +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Low rainfall Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:41:07 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Afternoon all, Unless I get 150mm in the next 36 hours to get me to my average, I'll have managed only about 640mm for 2002 (my 6 year ave is 812mm) - driest month this year was November with a total of 19mm. I know that's a heck of a lot more than many people living in harder hit areas. What amazed me is the length and breadth of the area effected by this looong dry spell - in all my life, I have never seen such a wide area affected by drought, nor can remember one where dams so far afield were dry. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/112209.jpg The southern tablelands of NSW see their fair share of dry spells, but over the past few months I have travelled from western Victoria to northern New South Wales.....and almost all of it has been horrendously dry. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/1126tdu01.jpg I've never seen the Long Paddock used as extensively, in fact stock are moving along major roads, not just the back roads atm. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/113001.jpg (this btw, does not make for ideal stormchase conditions.....) My New Year's wish is for slow and steady soaking rain for all (but not too much, or too fast that the dams end up with all of the washaway from the paddocks) Best wishes to all for the New Year, and please rain for all, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 16:49:36 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Nah. midgets. cooked 'em! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Richard Modistach" To: Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 18:07:40 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) [snip] > your balls are bigger than mine. > > richard > [snip] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:04:35 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
Good evening all.
This is a very interesting debate actually.. although my post here might seem off topic to some, the fact the discussion is on electrical current and their consequences makes me want to share an experience i had around 6 years ago now.. it might be one up on the spark plug thing.

I was at the time looking after my neighbours poddy calf as they were away on a vacation.. so upon entering the yard and feeding the wee thing, it got all excited about the handful of lucerne etc that i had with me and stupidly, i had wandered a little too close to the electric fence that kept "Bob" in his little area he was chewing out.. and poor bob got all excited, bumped me and threw me straight into the fence.

I dont think i need to describe how much of a shocking (tounge in cheek) experience that was, but the after effects made me think some about the event.

I was practically diagnosed with Ross River Fever and around that time there were many reports coming in of people suffering this debilitating and draining disease. My symptoms reflected that but what happened after the very large belt from the fence is very odd.

They literally disappeared the next day.. even my own doctor could not believe it and i did tell him what had happened, he shook his head in disbelief.

Now, im still not saying that it was the belt from the fence that cause these symptoms to disappear, im still very open minded on it but the experience itself is just a little too much to discount. I also do NOT suggest that people throw themselves into fences or pass current through their bodys at anytime to try rid effects of illness, im considering myself very lucky to be alive actually, that was one hell of a shock i recieved, i never thought a fence would do such a thing.

It might explain my silliness at times though.. who knows ;-)


Regards
Dale








lololol phil, i've seen it done with a 1cyl stationary engine,
never had the guts to do it myself,
your balls are bigger than mine.

richard

-------Original Message-------

From: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 5:38:23 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

Agree with Richard. Whatever the Amps are at the plug, they not much.
Years ago a bloke was skiting away to a group of us about how
wonderfully his Model A Ford was running and how "nothing could stop
it," so I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the heads of
his four spark plugs and stopped it instantly. (Nearly shook my arms
off in the process, but it worked!).
If there was 80 amps there I would've been dead! (I nearly was at the
hands of the Ford owner, but then that's another story!).

Phil
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From: "Richard Modistach" <hambone at dodo.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:19:21 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

> 80 AMPS AT THE POINTS, LOLOLOLOL,

> not bloody likley.

> you can quite happily weld at 80 amps with a 12 guage rod,

> imagine how long your points would last.

>

> Richard

> naracoorte

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: aussie-weather at world.std.com

> Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:08:51 PM

> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

> Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

>

>

>

> Phil Smith wrote:

>

> If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going
> from

> my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if

> this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to

> several million volts of PD (potential difference).

>

> Phil

> <><

> Hi Phil - all

>

> In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the voltage is in
> the
> 100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the pressure. What
> causes
> most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be measured in
> the
> millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current and is the
> amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. Volts is
> the
> amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't have 1
> without
> the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge the gap in
> the
> sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the voltage from 12
> volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the expense of
> amperage
> which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal to 80 amps at
> the
> points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's it simplified
> - it
> s a little more complicated than that however that is the basic
> principle.
> With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and electricity
> takes
> the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. Most
> thunderstorms
> generate static electricity in the millions of amps constantly , most
> of
> which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and only when the
> potential
> is so great does the static electricity discharge to the earth. We see
> that
> as a lightning bolt.

>

> Thus endeth the lecture lolol

>

> For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts yet the
> amount of
> current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in short it can give
> one
> a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 amp the current
> can
> be lethal irrespective of voltage applied.

>

> I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing much however I
> am
> still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final dispersal,
> however that applies to meteorology in general.

>

> Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent photographs you
> have
> put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. Thank you
> all for
> your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone a Happy New
> Year

>

> *HUGS*

>

> Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia.

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: "stephen galowski" <sgalow at ihug.com.au>

> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>

> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000

> Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting

>

>

> with regards to detecting lighting

> is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it

> higher than 0.3 volts

>

> Stephen

>

>

>

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X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 20:17:33 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dear Rhett, At 07:01 PM 29/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Me thinks that the devil may be advocating that not all the storms that >are being >reported by chasers as LP's are in fact LP's (or supercells as all)! Good point. Totally agreed. I think there is a little confusion being input into the system by nominating LP or LP storm as well as LP supercell as two different categories. But some examples from chasers are confusing the two. Rotation of the supercell should in my view be visible with the eye from a reasonably close distance. If this is not the case and one has to resort to fast forward video, then we are talking slow rotation if any at all. The rotation must be significant at base level to be considered a supercell in any case. One also must consider the environment they pre-existed within which include the wind shear and CAPE combinations. LP supercells most often develop in high wind shear environments and less CAPE. This is why they often develop along drylines. AS Clyve has suggested, you can have supercells advancing along the supercell spectrum usually from LP to HP but the opposite can occur. An LP supercell is usually defined as a rotating storm that has a little or no precipitation falling from the mesocyclone region though precipitation can fall on the edge or away from the mesocyclone. Often the textbook LP supercell has a defined vault region which is a cavity between the mesocyclone and precipitation region withholding other precipitation aloft often indicative of a powerful updraught and organisation within the storm. Here are some examples of an LP supercells http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901bw01.jpg circular base and precipitation on the side separate from the updraught and little precipitation from the rain free base but I would not count out hail falling from within this region. Compare with the circular base http://www.srh.noaa.gov/oun/gallery/may696.jpg http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_18_v.jpg http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/261102_21_v.jpg the latter two show an example of corkscrew striations within the updraught Well it is hard to beat this lot: http://snrs.unl.edu/amet451/garner/ssobs.html note the second picture clearly shows a cork screw updraught striations. Michael Bath's Casino event has a storm to the NW storm that was LP - classic which Clyve is referring to (it finally dropped precipitation through the base) http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0117mb13.jpg You can see with precipitation upwind that this is more along the lines of classic end of the LP - classic supercell spectrum. It is a right mover from split pair of supercells. I hope this helps. Anyone that would like further URL references, please e-mail me privately. Jimmy Deguara >I would tend to agree, as there is not a clear classification system in >place as far >as I can tell. Other branches of the earth sciences have clear systems for >categorising natural phenomena, where each specific example has to meet all >criteria (a check list of sorts) to be classified as a particular >type. Unless you do >this sort of thing - giving the evidence, checking the example against a >list of set >criteria then any claim to have seen an LP or another type of storm is >more art >than science. > >Rhett > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:18:12 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dale, When I was young my mum electrocuted herself on a frayed 240V power cord - she had the flu (not the cold) and was very sick...within 24hrs almost all of her symptoms were cured! Electric fences are a stormchasing hazzard. I remember sitting outside of Grafton, and there was a very weak looking fence with sheep behind it. I thought "How could such a weak looking fence keep all of these animals in, I wonder if it's electric?" Of course...me being the curious person I am, I went to go and touch it. I had a sharp pain go through my wrist, and my hand withdrew from the fence! But not convinced, I touched it again to "make sure" - sure enough it was electric, my arm was sore for about half an hour afterwards. I also convinced my chase partner to touch it...although he was intelligent enough to only do it once! AC Dale Small wrote: > > Good evening all. > This is a very interesting debate actually.. although my post here > might seem off topic to some, the fact the discussion is on electrical > current and their consequences makes me want to share an experience i > had around 6 years ago now.. it might be one up on the spark plug > thing. > > I was at the time looking after my neighbours poddy calf as they were > away on a vacation.. so upon entering the yard and feeding the wee > thing, it got all excited about the handful of lucerne etc that i had > with me and stupidly, i had wandered a little too close to the > electric fence that kept "Bob" in his little area he was chewing out.. > and poor bob got all excited, bumped me and threw me straight into the > fence. > > I dont think i need to describe how much of a shocking (tounge in > cheek) experience that was, but the after effects made me think some > about the event. > > I was practically diagnosed with Ross River Fever and around that time > there were many reports coming in of people suffering this > debilitating and draining disease. My symptoms reflected that but what > happened after the very large belt from the fence is very odd. > > They literally disappeared the next day.. even my own doctor could not > believe it and i did tell him what had happened, he shook his head in > disbelief. > > Now, im still not saying that it was the belt from the fence that > cause these symptoms to disappear, im still very open minded on it but > the experience itself is just a little too much to discount. I also do > NOT suggest that people throw themselves into fences or pass current > through their bodys at anytime to try rid effects of illness, im > considering myself very lucky to be alive actually, that was one hell > of a shock i recieved, i never thought a fence would do such a thing. > > It might explain my silliness at times though.. who knows ;-) > > Regards > Dale > > lololol phil, i've seen it done with a 1cyl stationary > engine, > never had the guts to do it myself, > your balls are bigger than mine. > > richard > > -------Original Message------- > > From: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 5:38:23 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others > :) > > Agree with Richard. Whatever the Amps are at the plug, they > not much. > Years ago a bloke was skiting away to a group of us about > how > wonderfully his Model A Ford was running and how "nothing > could stop > it," so I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the > heads of > his four spark plugs and stopped it instantly. (Nearly shook > my arms > off in the process, but it worked!). > If there was 80 amps there I would've been dead! (I nearly > was at the > hands of the Ford owner, but then that's another story!). > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Richard Modistach" > To: > Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:19:21 +1030 (Cen. Australia > Daylight Time) > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others > :) > > > 80 AMPS AT THE POINTS, LOLOLOLOL, > > > not bloody likley. > > > you can quite happily weld at 80 amps with a 12 guage rod, > > > imagine how long your points would last. > > > > > > Richard > > > naracoorte > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > > > From: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:08:51 PM > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil Smith wrote: > > > > > > If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning > bolt, going > > from > > > my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please > correct me if > > > this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of > thousands to > > > several million volts of PD (potential difference). > > > > > > Phil > > > <>< > > > Hi Phil - all > > > > > > In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the > voltage is in > > the > > 100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the > pressure. What > > causes > > most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be > measured in > > the > > millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current > and is the > > amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. > Volts is > > the > > amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't > have 1 > > without > > the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge > the gap in > > the > > sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the > voltage from 12 > > volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the > expense of > > amperage > > which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal > to 80 amps at > > the > > points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's > it simplified > > - it > > s a little more complicated than that however that is the > basic > > principle. > > With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and > electricity > > takes > > the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. Most > > thunderstorms > > generate static electricity in the millions of amps > constantly , most > > of > > which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and only > when the > > potential > > is so great does the static electricity discharge to the > earth. We see > > that > > as a lightning bolt. > > > > > > Thus endeth the lecture lolol > > > > > > For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts > yet the > > amount of > > current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in > short it can give > > one > > a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 > amp the current > > can > > be lethal irrespective of voltage applied. > > > > > > I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing > much however I > > am > > still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final > dispersal, > > however that applies to meteorology in general. > > > > > > Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent > photographs you > > have > > put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. > Thank you > > all for > > your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone > a Happy New > > Year > > > > > > *HUGS* > > > > > > Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: "stephen galowski" > > > To: > > > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000 > > > Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting > > > > > > > > > with regards to detecting lighting > > > is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection > or is it > > > higher than 0.3 volts > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in > the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------> > > . ____________________________________________________ > IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:25:09 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The Model A has four plugs standing up vertically out of the top of its "flathead" (side-valve) engine and the bonnet had been removed so the first thing to hit would've been the roof of the shed. I had received countless unplanned shocks while working on running engines over the years so I knew exactly what to expect. To continue nicely off-topic, this discussion reminds me of the time when I got stuck on a back track up in the Warrumbungles in a raging thunderstorm (slightly on-topic) on a Harley Davidson motorbike and sidecar when a log had become wedged under the frame so I couldn't get anywhere. Too lazy to get right off, I was leaning over and reaching underneath, when the crutch of my soaking wet pants happened to meet the head of the rear spark plug . . . Well I never got off a motorbike so quickly in my life, before or since. The way I was jumping around the bloke who was pulled up behind me thought I had been struck by lightning! That kind of experience makes stopping an engine with your hands a piece of cake! Gee, you can't half tell there's no weather to talk about in Hong Kong at present, can you? Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "James Holbeach" To: Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 18:21:55 +1100 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) > " I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the heads of > his four spark plugs" > > Nevertheless, that was a very dangerous thing to do. While the current > may not kill you- the induced involuntary muscle movement due to > external electrical stimulation could EASILY cause you to put a hand in > the radiator fan or something. > > I know about this all to well, while adjusting the timing on a running > engine, I brushed the spark plug lead (note you don't actually need to > touch the metal parts to get a shock.) My arm flinched and recoiled > involuntarily at the shock and deeply cut my hand on a bit of the > metal. > > I STRONGLY suggest that no body attempts to do this. Besides which, it > gives u a nasty shock! > > James > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Phil Smith > Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2002 5:56 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) > > Agree with Richard. Whatever the Amps are at the plug, they not much. > Years ago a bloke was skiting away to a group of us about how > wonderfully his Model A Ford was running and how "nothing could stop > it," so I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the heads of > his four spark plugs and stopped it instantly. (Nearly shook my arms > off in the process, but it worked!). > If there was 80 amps there I would've been dead! (I nearly was at the > hands of the Ford owner, but then that's another story!). > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Richard Modistach" > To: > Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:19:21 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) > > > 80 AMPS AT THE POINTS, LOLOLOLOL, > > > not bloody likley. > > > you can quite happily weld at 80 amps with a 12 guage rod, > > > imagine how long your points would last. > > > > > > Richard > > > naracoorte > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > > > From: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:08:51 PM > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil Smith wrote: > > > > > > If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going > > from > > > my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if > > > this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to > > > several million volts of PD (potential difference). > > > > > > Phil > > > <>< > > > Hi Phil - all > > > > > > In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the voltage is > in > > the > > 100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the pressure. What > > causes > > most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be measured > in > > the > > millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current and is > the > > amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. Volts is > > the > > amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't have 1 > > without > > the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge the gap > in > > the > > sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the voltage from > 12 > > volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the expense of > > amperage > > which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal to 80 amps > at > > the > > points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's it > simplified > > - it > > s a little more complicated than that however that is the basic > > principle. > > With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and electricity > > takes > > the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. Most > > thunderstorms > > generate static electricity in the millions of amps constantly , most > > of > > which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and only when the > > potential > > is so great does the static electricity discharge to the earth. We > see > > that > > as a lightning bolt. > > > > > > Thus endeth the lecture lolol > > > > > > For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts yet the > > amount of > > current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in short it can > give > > one > > a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 amp the > current > > can > > be lethal irrespective of voltage applied. > > > > > > I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing much however I > > am > > still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final dispersal, > > however that applies to meteorology in general. > > > > > > Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent photographs you > > have > > put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. Thank you > > all for > > your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone a Happy New > > Year > > > > > > *HUGS* > > > > > > Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: "stephen galowski" > > > To: > > > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000 > > > Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting > > > > > > > > > with regards to detecting lighting > > > is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it > > > higher than 0.3 volts > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Matters" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Zoe's first casualties:-(( Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 20:38:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Stephen,
                 Unknown as it was an ABC News report.
Cheers Peter
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Zoe's first casualties:-((

peter matters
Do you know if they need emergency communication
Stephen
Wicen brisbane
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 1:28 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Zoe's first casualties:-((

No word from Pacific island hit by cyclone

Officials on Solomon Islands say all contact has been lost with the tiny Polynesian island of Tikopia because of Cyclone Zoe.

Zoe is listed as an extremely dangerous category five cyclone and Tikopia was almost directly in its path.

Solomons authorities say they are worried about the fate of the islanders but will not know how badly they were hit until the storm has passed.

Zoe is expected to pass the south coast of Fiji's main island of Viti Levu before heading toward Tonga.

 

Peter

From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 04:40:27 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A major hazard. Although not chasing related, it is wise to find out if there are any signs about stating an electric fence, or the tell tale signs of the ceramic things they run on. One of my mates decided that he really needed a toilet break one day and found a fence that seemed innocent enough...lets just say, he found out pretty quick on the hazards of electric fences. LOL PaulY -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Anthony Cornelius Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 4:18 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Hi Dale, When I was young my mum electrocuted herself on a frayed 240V power cord - she had the flu (not the cold) and was very sick...within 24hrs almost all of her symptoms were cured! Electric fences are a stormchasing hazzard. I remember sitting outside of Grafton, and there was a very weak looking fence with sheep behind it. I thought "How could such a weak looking fence keep all of these animals in, I wonder if it's electric?" Of course...me being the curious person I am, I went to go and touch it. I had a sharp pain go through my wrist, and my hand withdrew from the fence! But not convinced, I touched it again to "make sure" - sure enough it was electric, my arm was sore for about half an hour afterwards. I also convinced my chase partner to touch it...although he was intelligent enough to only do it once! AC Dale Small wrote: > > Good evening all. > This is a very interesting debate actually.. although my post here > might seem off topic to some, the fact the discussion is on electrical > current and their consequences makes me want to share an experience i > had around 6 years ago now.. it might be one up on the spark plug > thing. > > I was at the time looking after my neighbours poddy calf as they were > away on a vacation.. so upon entering the yard and feeding the wee > thing, it got all excited about the handful of lucerne etc that i had > with me and stupidly, i had wandered a little too close to the > electric fence that kept "Bob" in his little area he was chewing out.. > and poor bob got all excited, bumped me and threw me straight into the > fence. > > I dont think i need to describe how much of a shocking (tounge in > cheek) experience that was, but the after effects made me think some > about the event. > > I was practically diagnosed with Ross River Fever and around that time > there were many reports coming in of people suffering this > debilitating and draining disease. My symptoms reflected that but what > happened after the very large belt from the fence is very odd. > > They literally disappeared the next day.. even my own doctor could not > believe it and i did tell him what had happened, he shook his head in > disbelief. > > Now, im still not saying that it was the belt from the fence that > cause these symptoms to disappear, im still very open minded on it but > the experience itself is just a little too much to discount. I also do > NOT suggest that people throw themselves into fences or pass current > through their bodys at anytime to try rid effects of illness, im > considering myself very lucky to be alive actually, that was one hell > of a shock i recieved, i never thought a fence would do such a thing. > > It might explain my silliness at times though.. who knows ;-) > > Regards > Dale > > lololol phil, i've seen it done with a 1cyl stationary > engine, > never had the guts to do it myself, > your balls are bigger than mine. > > richard > > -------Original Message------- > > From: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 5:38:23 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others > :) > > Agree with Richard. Whatever the Amps are at the plug, they > not much. > Years ago a bloke was skiting away to a group of us about > how > wonderfully his Model A Ford was running and how "nothing > could stop > it," so I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the > heads of > his four spark plugs and stopped it instantly. (Nearly shook > my arms > off in the process, but it worked!). > If there was 80 amps there I would've been dead! (I nearly > was at the > hands of the Ford owner, but then that's another story!). > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Richard Modistach" > To: > Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:19:21 +1030 (Cen. Australia > Daylight Time) > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others > :) > > > 80 AMPS AT THE POINTS, LOLOLOLOL, > > > not bloody likley. > > > you can quite happily weld at 80 amps with a 12 guage rod, > > > imagine how long your points would last. > > > > > > Richard > > > naracoorte > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > > > From: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:08:51 PM > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil Smith wrote: > > > > > > If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning > bolt, going > > from > > > my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please > correct me if > > > this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of > thousands to > > > several million volts of PD (potential difference). > > > > > > Phil > > > <>< > > > Hi Phil - all > > > > > > In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the > voltage is in > > the > > 100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the > pressure. What > > causes > > most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be > measured in > > the > > millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current > and is the > > amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. > Volts is > > the > > amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't > have 1 > > without > > the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge > the gap in > > the > > sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the > voltage from 12 > > volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the > expense of > > amperage > > which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal > to 80 amps at > > the > > points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's > it simplified > > - it > > s a little more complicated than that however that is the > basic > > principle. > > With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and > electricity > > takes > > the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. Most > > thunderstorms > > generate static electricity in the millions of amps > constantly , most > > of > > which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and only > when the > > potential > > is so great does the static electricity discharge to the > earth. We see > > that > > as a lightning bolt. > > > > > > Thus endeth the lecture lolol > > > > > > For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts > yet the > > amount of > > current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in > short it can give > > one > > a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 > amp the current > > can > > be lethal irrespective of voltage applied. > > > > > > I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing > much however I > > am > > still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final > dispersal, > > however that applies to meteorology in general. > > > > > > Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent > photographs you > > have > > put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. > Thank you > > all for > > your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone > a Happy New > > Year > > > > > > *HUGS* > > > > > > Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: "stephen galowski" > > > To: > > > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000 > > > Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting > > > > > > > > > with regards to detecting lighting > > > is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection > or is it > > > higher than 0.3 volts > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in > the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- - > > - > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- --> > > . ____________________________________________________ > IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 20:24:19 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
PMSL phil, reminds me of the unwritten law never to twinkle on a fence in case you don't notice it's electric.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 8:09:23 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
 
The Model A has four plugs standing up vertically out of the top of
its "flathead" (side-valve) engine and the bonnet had been removed so
the first thing to hit would've been the roof of the shed.
I had received countless unplanned shocks while working on running
engines over the years so I knew exactly what to expect.

To continue nicely off-topic, this discussion reminds me of the time
when I got stuck on a back track up in the Warrumbungles in a raging
thunderstorm (slightly on-topic) on a Harley Davidson motorbike and
sidecar when a log had become wedged under the frame so I couldn't get
anywhere. Too lazy to get right off, I was leaning over and reaching
underneath, when the crutch of my soaking wet pants happened to meet the
head of the rear spark plug . . .
Well I never got off a motorbike so quickly in my life, before or
since. The way I was jumping around the bloke who was pulled up behind
me thought I had been struck by lightning!
That kind of experience makes stopping an engine with your hands a piece
of cake!

Gee, you can't half tell there's no weather to talk about in Hong Kong
at present, can you?

Phil
<><

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-----Original Message-----
From: "James Holbeach" <james at trapdoor.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>RE aus-wx Lightning for the b.ems ;
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 18:21:55 +1100
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

> " I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the heads of
> his four spark plugs"
>
> Nevertheless, that was a very dangerous thing to do. While the current
> may not kill you- the induced involuntary muscle movement due to
> external electrical stimulation could EASILY cause you to put a hand in
> the radiator fan or something.
>
> I know about this all to well, while adjusting the timing on a running
> engine, I brushed the spark plug lead (note you don't actually need to
> touch the metal parts to get a shock.) My arm flinched and recoiled
> involuntarily at the shock and deeply cut my hand on a bit of the
> metal.
>
> I STRONGLY suggest that no body attempts to do this. Besides which, it
> gives u a nasty shock!
>
> James
>
> James Holbeach
> --------------------------------
> Trapdoor Ski Club
> Mt. Hotham, Australia
> ph. 0417 553 757
> http://www.trapdoor.com.au
> --------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Phil Smith
> Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2002 5:56 PM
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
>
> Agree with Richard. Whatever the Amps are at the plug, they not much.
> Years ago a bloke was skiting away to a group of us about how
> wonderfully his Model A Ford was running and how "nothing could stop
> it," so I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the RE aus-wx Lightning for the b.ems heads of
> his four spark plugs and stopped it instantly. (Nearly shook my arms
> off in the process, but it worked!).
> If there was 80 amps there I would've been dead! (I nearly was at the
> hands of the Ford owner, but then that's another story!).
>
> Phil
> <><
>
> International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Richard Modistach" <hambone at dodo.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:19:21 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time)
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
>
> > 80 AMPS AT THE POINTS, LOLOLOLOL,
>
> > not bloody likley.
>
> > you can quite happily weld at 80 amps with a 12 guage rod,
>
> > imagine how long your points would last.
>
> >
>
> > Richard
>
> > naracoorte
>
> >
>
> > -------Original Message-------
>
> >
>
> > From: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>
> > Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:08:51 PM
>
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Phil Smith wrote:
>
> >
>
> > If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going
> > from
>
> > my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if
>
> > this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to
>
> > several million volts of PD (potential difference).
>
> >
>
> > Phil
>
> > <><
>
> > Hi Phil - all
>
> >
>
> > In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the voltage is
> in
> > the
> > 100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the pressure. What
> > causes
> > most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be measured
> in
> > the
> > millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current and is
> the
> > amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. Volts is
> > the
> > amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't have 1
> > without
> > the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge the gap
> in
> > the
> > sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the voltage from
> 12
> > volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the expense of
> > amperage
> > which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal to 80 amps
> at
> > the
> > points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's it
> simplified
> > - it
> > s a little more complicated than that however that is the basic
> > principle.
> > With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and electricity
> > taRE aus-wx Lightning for the b.ems kes
> > the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. Most
> > thunderstorms
> > generate static electricity in the millions of amps constantly , most
> > of
> > which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and only when the
> > potential
> > is so great does the static electricity discharge to the earth. We
> see
> > that
> > as a lightning bolt.
>
> >
>
> > Thus endeth the lecture lolol
>
> >
>
> > For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts yet the
> > amount of
> > current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in short it can
> give
> > one
> > a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 amp the
> current
> > can
> > be lethal irrespective of voltage applied.
>
> >
>
> > I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing much however I
> > am
> > still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final dispersal,
> > however that applies to meteorology in general.
>
> >
>
> > Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent photographs you
> > have
> > put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. Thank you
> > all for
> > your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone a Happy New
> > Year
>
> >
>
> > *HUGS*
>
> >
>
> > Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: "stephen galowski" <sgalow at ihug.com.au>
>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com&gRE aus-wx Lightning for the b.ems t;
>
> > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000
>
> > Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > with regards to detecting lighting
>
> > is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it
>
> > higher than 0.3 volts
>
> >
>
> > Stephen
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
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Embedded Content: IMSTP37.gif: 00000001,5b2424cd,00000000,00000000 From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather summaries Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 20:57:17 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You applaud the Bureau for showing caution regarding tornado sightings and reports and I must admit I agree IF no reliable or experienced witness reports such as from chasers are forwarded. However following the same caution I would also say that we have had a spat of LP supercell reports on various chase pages ( no one particular author, but several ). I think we should also apply the same scientific approach. The presence of a tail cloud and no visible precipitation seem to be the only criteria in some cases. Was there are mesocyclone ? or was there just surface convergence ? There are US chasers that believe LP supercells are endemic to the great plains and are found no where else in the world. I do not agree, I think Australia's climate is ripe for the odd LP supercell. Even in the US LP supercells rarely spawn tornadoes, they do however have a reputation for producing very large hail, sometimes very isolated stones, and even rarely that being the only precipitation. LP does not mean no precipitation. In many of the Australia storms that have been labelled LP we have rarely have large hail - severe size hail. 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(Couldnt resist that ehe)


*Dale*





on 29/12/2002 19:18, Anthony Cornelius at cyclone at bigpond.net.au wrote:


Electric fences are a stormchasing hazzard.  I remember sitting outside
of Grafton, and there was a very weak looking fence with sheep behind
it.  I thought "How could such a weak looking fence keep all of these
animals in, I wonder if it's electric?"  Of course...me being the
curious person I am, I went to go and touch it.  I had a sharp pain go
through my wrist, and my hand withdrew from the fence!  But not
convinced, I touched it again to "make sure" - sure enough it was
electric, my arm was sore for about half an hour afterwards.  I also
convinced my chase partner to touch it...although he was intelligent
enough to only do it once!
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 21:47:33 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 04:40 AM 29/12/2002 -0500, you wrote: >A major hazard. Although not chasing related, it is wise to find out if >there are any signs about stating an electric fence, or the tell tale signs >of the ceramic things they run on. One of my mates decided that he really >needed a toilet break one day and found a fence that seemed innocent >enough...lets just say, he found out pretty quick on the hazards of electric >fences. LOL, I have heard many similar stories. Definitely a hazard for chasers to watch. ;-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Greg Spencer" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: WA TORNADO Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 18:51:13 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Myself and Mark Dwyer were in Wongan Hills at the time of the tornado but unfortunately never saw it. As we were heading south from Wongan Hills we drove through some really heavy rain and very strong winds, would have been 100kmph+, the trees were bent over quite a fair way and there was branches blowing across the road. The wind started from right then swung to the left, lasted 15-20 seconds then pretty much stopped. We're not sure exactly what it was, we either sideswiped the tornado as we drove through or caught the edge of the RFD. Theres video footage and photos of the storm but Im still halfway through the rolls so will get them developed asap
 
Regards
 
Greg
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um, yeah, that happened back on the 26th
 
richard
 
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Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:00:05 PM
Subject: aus-wx: WA TORNADO
 
Has anyone see this ! It happened in WA at 4pm yeasterday according to reports.
 
 
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Embedded Content: IMSTP38.gif: 00000001,3d5a908b,00000000,00000000 X-Sender: gthurtel at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 23:16:05 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Geoff Thurtell Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have found that if you have your lightning detector on (AM radio off station) it will detect electric fences quite clearly... Geoff >>A major hazard. Although not chasing related, it is wise to find out if >>there are any signs about stating an electric fence, or the tell tale signs >>of the ceramic things they run on. One of my mates decided that he really >>needed a toilet break one day and found a fence that seemed innocent >>enough...lets just say, he found out pretty quick on the hazards of electric >>fences. > >LOL, I have heard many similar stories. Definitely a hazard for chasers >to watch. ;-) > >73 de Tony, VK3JED >http://vkradio.com > Geoff Thurtell Schofields NSW +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 23:41:12 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 11:16 PM 29/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >I have found that if you have your lightning detector on (AM radio off >station) it will detect electric fences quite clearly... It pays to carry a transistor radio when walking around paddocks... :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 23:25:23 +1030 From: Richard Albury User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Phil Smith wrote: >The Model A has four plugs standing up vertically out of the top of >its "flathead" (side-valve) engine and the bonnet had been removed so >the first thing to hit would've been the roof of the shed. >I had received countless unplanned shocks while working on running >engines over the years so I knew exactly what to expect. > >To continue nicely off-topic, this discussion reminds me of the time >when I got stuck on a back track up in the Warrumbungles in a raging >thunderstorm (slightly on-topic) on a Harley Davidson motorbike and >sidecar when a log had become wedged under the frame so I couldn't get >anywhere. Too lazy to get right off, I was leaning over and reaching >underneath, when the crutch of my soaking wet pants happened to meet the >head of the rear spark plug . . . >Well I never got off a motorbike so quickly in my life, before or >since. The way I was jumping around the bloke who was pulled up behind >me thought I had been struck by lightning! >That kind of experience makes stopping an engine with your hands a piece >of cake! > > > Hi phil - All I never meant to get "off topic" I was using the analogies to demonstrate a point for beginning storm chasers As one knows, lighting ie electricity takes the path of least resistance and the human body as well as animal bodies make excellent conductors. Having been a farmer I have had a few lightning struck cows and the odd sheep in my time. Needless to say they died instantly as one would expect. The worst experience I have had re lightning was it blasted a gum tree to matchwood in front of my eyes. 5 seconds before this I felt my hair stand on end and I laid flat on the ground. I nearly became the conductor for the bolt. I couldn't hear properly for approx 1 hour afterwards due to the thunder clap which lifted me bodily off the ground. The bolt hit the tree 3 meters away from me leaving the tree a smoking ruins. (it was a fair size gum tree too) About electric fences - I've been caught out a few times being zapped by a "dead" fence. The worst being hung up on either side straddling it when my boots were caught in mud. It sure gave "zing" to my sex life lolol :D - and Digger my kelpie found out the effect when he cocked his leg on 1 :D. I worked a property on the R.Murray just outside Murray Bridge. I wondered why the cows tails didn't touch the fence on either side of the race; I soon found out :D As I said in my earlier post, I am into general meteorology and I like weather in all its variations; from bright clear days to howling gales and yes storms. I've run weather station/s for over 40 years and the weather still holds its fascination for me as it did when I 1st started learning it oh so long ago. *hug* Richard Kurralta Park S.Aust > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 23:36:39 +1030 (Cen. 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if your not sure wether a fence is live or not and dont want to find out the hard way, get a piece pf green grass and touch the fence about 6" from where your holding it and SLOWLY slide the wire toward your fingers, you should get a slight tingle at some stage, if not, the fence should be dead,
 MAKE SURE THE GRASS IS FRESH.
 
richard
 
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Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 11:28:42 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
 

Phil Smith wrote:

>The Model A has four plugs standing up vertically out of the top of
>its "flathead" (side-valve) engine and the bonnet had been removed so
>the first thing to hit would've been the roof of the shed.
>I had received countless unplanned shocks while working on running
>engines over the years so I knew exactly what to expect.
>
>To continue nicely off-topic, this discussion reminds me of the time
>when I got stuck on a back track up in the Warrumbungles in a raging
>thunderstorm (slightly on-topic) on a Harley Davidson motorbike and
>sidecar when a log had become wedged under the frame so I couldn't get
>anywhere. Too lazy to get right off, I was leaning over and reaching
>underneath, when the crutch of my soaking wet pants happened to meet the
>head of the rear spark plug . . .
>Well I never got off a motorbike so quickly in my life, before or
>since. The way I was jumping around the bloke who was pulled up behind
>me thought I had been struck by lightning!
>That kind of experience makes stopping an engine with your hands a piece
>of cake!
>
>
>
Hi phil - All

I never meant to get "off topic" I was using the analogies to
demonstrate a point for beginning storm chasers

As one knows, lighting ie electricity takes the path of least
resistance and the human body as well as animal bodies make excellent
conductors.

Having been a farmer I have had a few lightning struck cows and the odd
sheep in my time. Needless to say they died instantly as one would
expect. The worst experience I have had re lightning was it blasted a
gum tree to matchwood in front of my eyes. 5 seconds before this I felt
my hair stand on end and I laid flat on the ground. I nearly became the
conductor for the bolt. I couldn't hear properly for approx 1 hour
afterwards due to the thunder clap which lifted me bodilyRe aus-wx Lightning for the b.ems off the
ground. The bolt hit the tree 3 meters away from me leaving the tree a
smoking ruins. (it was a fair size gum tree too)

About electric fences - I've been caught out a few times being zapped by
a "dead" fence. The worst being hung up on either side straddling it
when my boots were caught in mud. It sure gave "zing" to my sex life
lolol :D - and Digger my kelpie found out the effect when he cocked his
leg on 1 :D.
I worked a property on the R.Murray just outside Murray Bridge. I
wondered why the cows tails didn't touch the fence on either side of the
race; I soon found out :D

As I said in my earlier post, I am into general meteorology and I like
weather in all its variations; from bright clear days to howling gales
and yes storms.

I've run weather station/s for over 40 years and the weather still holds
its fascination for me as it did when I 1st started learning it oh so
long ago.

*hug*

Richard Kurralta Park S.Aust

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your also better off getting struck by lightning when your wet than dry.
 
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Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 11:28:42 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
 

Phil Smith wrote:

>The Model A has four plugs standing up vertically out of the top of
>its "flathead" (side-valve) engine and the bonnet had been removed so
>the first thing to hit would've been the roof of the shed.
>I had received countless unplanned shocks while working on running
>engines over the years so I knew exactly what to expect.
>
>To continue nicely off-topic, this discussion reminds me of the time
>when I got stuck on a back track up in the Warrumbungles in a raging
>thunderstorm (slightly on-topic) on a Harley Davidson motorbike and
>sidecar when a log had become wedged under the frame so I couldn't get
>anywhere. Too lazy to get right off, I was leaning over and reaching
>underneath, when the crutch of my soaking wet pants happened to meet the
>head of the rear spark plug . . .
>Well I never got off a motorbike so quickly in my life, before or
>since. The way I was jumping around the bloke who was pulled up behind
>me thought I had been struck by lightning!
>That kind of experience makes stopping an engine with your hands a piece
>of cake!
>
>
>
Hi phil - All

I never meant to get "off topic" I was using the analogies to
demonstrate a point for beginning storm chasers

As one knows, lighting ie electricity takes the path of least
resistance and the human body as well as animal bodies make excellent
conductors.

Having been a farmer I have had a few lightning struck cows and the odd
sheep in my time. Needless to say they died instantly as one would
expect. The worst experience I have had re lightning was it blasted a
gum tree to matchwood in front of my eyes. 5 seconds before this I felt
my hair stand on end and I laid flat on the ground. I nearly became the
conductor for the bolt. I couldn't hear properly for approx 1 hour
afterwards due to the thunder clap which lifted me bodilyRe aus-wx Lightning for the b.ems off the
ground. The bolt hit the tree 3 meters away from me leaving the tree a
smoking ruins. (it was a fair size gum tree too)

About electric fences - I've been caught out a few times being zapped by
a "dead" fence. The worst being hung up on either side straddling it
when my boots were caught in mud. It sure gave "zing" to my sex life
lolol :D - and Digger my kelpie found out the effect when he cocked his
leg on 1 :D.
I worked a property on the R.Murray just outside Murray Bridge. I
wondered why the cows tails didn't touch the fence on either side of the
race; I soon found out :D

As I said in my earlier post, I am into general meteorology and I like
weather in all its variations; from bright clear days to howling gales
and yes storms.

I've run weather station/s for over 40 years and the weather still holds
its fascination for me as it did when I 1st started learning it oh so
long ago.

*hug*

Richard Kurralta Park S.Aust

>
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I have a similar story about an almost life threatening lightning strike here in 1994.

I am completely exhausted but this is my last post anywhere for the evening.

During 4 days of continuous thundery rain here in SE Qld, i had the old teletext running in the background with the GPATS lightning tracker on page 790 at the time.. and seeing it lit up like a christmas tree was impressive.

Getting to the point, our house was at first "lock-up" stage and we were living "on-site" in a caravan for the parents and for myself, my brother and the rest of the material items we needed, a 20ft atco hut site office.

An interlock steel grating floor was out the front of the caravan, our kitchen at the time (complete with the 240 litre fridge outside under the awning) was on top of this interlock grating. Yes it seems rather odd but this was how we lived for a year until the house was completed, extremely rough but with city-slicker overtones.

The thundery rain decided to pick up a bit more moisture and instability.. and during the day started dropping CG's from the sky like you wouldnt believe.

I remember it like it happened yesterday.

Mum and myself were doing the dishes.. incredibly stupid of me, i was barefoot on this steel flooring and heard a very close flang.. so i sort of went out underneath the canvas awning where our kitchen was, barefeet still and now wet mind you.. and looked about for some more lightning.

I guess a higher power was looking after me that day as i remember every hair on my body standing up on end, the smell of sulphur in the air was almost indescribeable.
I remember the brightest, whitest light i have ever seen in my life.. then an explosion which was not of this earth.

The next thing i knew, i was lying flat on my back, i looked over to mum to see her picking herself up off the grated floor also. This was a good 30 seconds i guess from the initial strike, it could have been 5 seconds or could have been a minute we dont know, it knocked us clean to the ground and my whole body was tingling like i really had been zapped by the thing.

My hearing ability?

It was practically non existant for the rest of the day.
My undies.. well i dont need to go there, you can all guess what happened     o_O

Upon further studies of what happened.. there is an ironbark tree about 7 metres from where we were standing at the time.
The ironbark took a direct strike from a CG and literally blew it to pieces, the poor tree stands where it was hit today, almost 9 years later but never sprouted a shoot again, it got its ass fried well and truly!

I tend to stay under shelter when flangs drop around me nowadays, what i went through in 94 really put the wind up me.


With a hearty goodnight and best new years wishes.. are there any other close calls to be shared amongst us on the list?


Regards
Dale from Jimboomba
*Jimboomba in the native language.. a place of noisy storms and no rain*
How very true!!



on 29/12/2002 22:55, Richard Albury at ra7167 at chariot.net.au wrote:



Phil Smith wrote:

>The Model A has four plugs standing up vertically out of the top of
>its "flathead" (side-valve) engine and the bonnet had been removed so
>the first thing to hit would've been the roof of the shed.
>I had received countless unplanned shocks while working on running
>engines over the years so I knew exactly what to expect.
>
>To continue nicely off-topic, this discussion reminds me of the time
>when I got stuck on a back track up in the Warrumbungles in a raging
>thunderstorm (slightly on-topic) on a Harley Davidson motorbike and
>sidecar when a log had become wedged under the frame so I couldn't get
>anywhere.  Too lazy to get right off, I was leaning over and reaching
>underneath, when the crutch of my soaking wet pants happened to meet the
>head of the rear spark plug . . .
>Well I never got off a motorbike so quickly in my life, before or
>since.  The way I was jumping around the bloke who was pulled up behind
>me thought I had been struck by lightning!
>That kind of experience makes stopping an engine with your hands a piece
>of cake!
>
>  
>
Hi phil - All

I never meant to get "off topic" I was using the analogies to
demonstrate a point for beginning storm chasers

As one knows, lighting ie  electricity takes the path of least
resistance and the human body as well as animal bodies make excellent
conductors.

Having been a farmer I have had a few lightning struck cows and the odd
sheep in my time. Needless to say they died instantly as one would
expect. The worst experience I have had re lightning was it blasted a
gum tree to matchwood in front of my eyes.  5 seconds before this I felt
my hair stand on end and I  laid flat on the ground. I nearly became the
conductor for the bolt. I couldn't hear properly for approx 1 hour
afterwards due to the thunder clap which lifted me bodily off the
ground. The bolt hit the tree 3 meters away from me leaving the tree a
smoking ruins. (it was a fair size gum tree too)

About electric fences - I've been caught out a few times being zapped by
a "dead" fence. The worst being hung up on either side straddling it
when my boots were caught in mud. It sure gave "zing" to my sex life
lolol :D - and Digger my kelpie found out the effect when he cocked his
leg on 1 :D.
I worked a property on the R.Murray just outside Murray Bridge. I
wondered why the cows tails didn't touch the fence on either side of the
race; I soon found out :D

As I said in my earlier post, I am into general meteorology and I like
weather in all its variations; from bright clear days to howling gales
and yes storms.

I've run weather station/s for over 40 years and the weather still holds
its fascination for me as it did when I 1st started learning it oh so
long ago.

*hug*

Richard  Kurralta Park S.Aust

>  
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HI all,
 
Have been doing some work on my new site. Heres the link - feedback very welcome. http://www.crosstravel.com.au/NTSTORMS.htm
 
Thanks every1,
 
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Paul,
 
VERY HEARTY CONGRATULATIONS on behalf of all ASWA members & stormchasers in Victoria.  Another successful 'capture' for an ASWA photographer!!!!!....just going to prove that there will be more and more successful severe weather 'captures' in the future.
 
EXCELLENTLY DONE!!!
 
Cheers,
 
Jane

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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 12:20 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado

Hi all,
 
Darwin had a tornado here this morning. My footage featured on the Local News (Channel 9).
 
 
Anyone that may have saved Darwin Local for 23UTC 27 dec to 01 UTC 28 Dec I would love a copy please. :)
 
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now 890 millibars as per
 
 
latest analysis
 
 
 
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From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning for some... Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 00:48:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Kevin & Richard, If I may add some elucidation here... Firstly, static electricity does not generate amps (current), static electricity by definition is not a flowing current and is just an electric charge. The process of electrification in thunderstorms is a process of charge separation resulting in a potential difference which may be measured in Volts. Lightning occurs when the potential difference becomes so great that the insulator (air) breaks down by a process of ionisation which creates a very low resistance path. Electrical current then flows as the charge is dissipated along this path. Dry air requires a potential difference of about 30,000 Volts per centimeter to breakdown (reasonably consistent with 6KV required for points in a car engine). Moist air somewhat less. The amount of potential difference needed to break down a couple of kilometers of clear air is therefore obviously very large. However, over large distances like this, breakdown actually occurs progressively (step leaders) which reduces the actual voltage required, but it may still be in the order of 300 million volts. The current which actually flows in a given lightning discharge is not particularly due to either the initial potential difference (voltage) or resistance of the air, but is in fact proportional to the amount of charge available. It is important to understand that the electrical property of air is entirely different in breakdown. Where there was previously very high resistance there is practically none when breakdown occurs. Thus at the moment of the lightning strike, 100,000 or more amperes of current may flow, but the voltage at that instant reduces from the millions of volts prior to breakdown to less than 1 Volt over the entire length of the conductive channel while the current is actually flowing! Regards, John W. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Phyland Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 5:09 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for some... Hi Richard et al, Hmmnnnn....So let me get this right....you step up 12 volts to 6000 volts and amperage goes from 300 A to 80A? I'll believe 80 milli-amps maybe.... Ever heard of Ohms' Law? Voltage is pressure? News to me...(though it's probably news to lotsa people...) Don't think...try that it's the energy that each coulomb of charge has...i.e. to do a student analogy....think of objects that roll downhill under gravitational potential...the higher up it rolls from the more energy it has at the bottom....same with electricity....the more energy it has at the "higher end" the geater the potential difference. Now air is a really good insulator...so it takes a GREAT deal of potential difference to bridge nearly any sort of gap in air....so I'll go with hundreds of thousands and millions of volts (p.d.) to jump the gap...but the amperage will decrease as the resistance is so great.. Yep....people get killed by lightning...but considering the numbers being used it's not terrifically good at it...most people don't get killed by ligfhtning because of flash-surface burning...i.e. it's still easier for the current to go over the surface of the human body than through the "guts"...unless of course you're out on the golf course holding an iron above your head! :)) Cheers, Kevin from Wycheproof. >From: Richard Albury >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) >Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 13:58:38 +1030 > > > >Phil Smith wrote: > >>If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going from >>my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if this >>is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to several >>million volts of PD (potential difference). >> >>Phil >><>< >>Hi Phil - all >> > >In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the voltage is in the >100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the pressure. What causes >most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be measured in the >millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current and is the >amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. Volts is the >amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't have 1 without >the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge the gap in the >sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the voltage from 12 >volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the expense of amperage >which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal to 80 amps at the >points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's it simplified - >it's a little more complicated than that however that is the basic >principle. With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and >electricity takes the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. >Most thunderstorms generate static electricity in the millions of amps >constantly , most of which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and >only when the potential is so great does the static electricity discharge >to the earth. We see that as a lightning bolt. > >Thus endeth the lecture lolol > >For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts yet the amount >of current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in short it can give >one a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 amp the current >can be lethal irrespective of voltage applied. > >I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing much however I am >still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final dispersal, >however that applies to meteorology in general. > >Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent photographs you have >put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. Thank you all >for your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone a Happy New >Year > >*HUGS* > >Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia. > >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: "stephen galowski" >>To: >>Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000 >>Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting >> >> >> >>>with regards to detecting lighting is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for >>>most of the dection or is it >>>higher than 0.3 volts >>> >>>Stephen >>> >>> >>> >> >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>message. >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >>. >> >> >> > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 2002-12-17 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 07:58:07 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Latest photographs from recent chases including 23rd Dec 2002 "beast" Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello, Latest photographs including the 23rd December 2002 photographs are ones taken at various times of the beast - check the date in the URL. Please note that some are out of focus based on David's misinterpretation of using my camera as well as being on the move in some cases but you can see the structure regardless. We were only in a small portion of the massive complex http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20021230.html In the photographs http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd06.jpg http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd07.jpg http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd08.jpg you can see the Guyra cell to the east that dumped 160mm in 1 hour as well as hail. Most likely a supercell. And yes, that is a small part of the anvil shield extending to the Guyra cell!! The anvil shield extended mainly southeast towards the Mid North Coast. http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd09.jpg This was the base/wall cloud of the mesocyclone number 3 near Boggabri. The mesocyclones on this storm complex were rather large. Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low rainfall Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 10:06:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Gotta agree with you Jane. Approx 300 behind here as well and a similar figure last year. Driest Month (to date) is this month sitting on 4mm, followed by October on 6mm. Although it is drizzling now and 1mm has fallen in the last 12 hours or so. 24 consecutive days without any rain this time. The ground and air smells funny (fresher). BTW nice pics. Are they new shoes :-))) And one for Clyve. Is that Betsy the cow and I hope that's a smudge on the lens........... Outa here > Afternoon all, > > Unless I get 150mm in the next 36 hours to get me to my average, I'll > have managed only about 640mm for 2002 (my 6 year ave is 812mm) - driest > month this year was November with a total of 19mm. I know that's a heck > of a lot more than many people living in harder hit areas. > > What amazed me is the length and breadth of the area effected by this > looong dry spell - in all my life, I have never seen such a wide area > affected by drought, nor can remember one where dams so far afield were > dry. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/112209.jpg The southern > tablelands of NSW see their fair share of dry spells, but over the past > few months I have travelled from western Victoria to northern New South > Wales.....and almost all of it has been horrendously dry. > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/1126tdu01.jpg I've never seen the > Long Paddock used as extensively, in fact stock are moving along major > roads, not just the back roads atm. > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/113001.jpg (this btw, does not > make for ideal stormchase conditions.....) > > My New Year's wish is for slow and steady soaking rain for all (but not > too much, or too fast that the dams end up with all of the washaway from > the paddocks) > > Best wishes to all for the New Year, and please rain for all, > > Jane +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low rainfall Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:13:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It is too easy to look at the weather patterns and the drought and say 'it has never been so bad', but speaking to family in the Wimmera region of Victoria, I was told that this is not uncommon. Perhaps with better communication technology we are able to see every drought effected part of the country so easily and hear about it constantly. I remember as a small child seeing thousands of sheep in the long paddock almost every year. Where I grew up in the NT we had a dog which didn't see rain until she was 3. Each year through the 1960s we endured months and months of dust-storms in what should have been our wet season. That drought extended from the Territory right down through Queensland and well into NSW. The black soil plains of Queensland were not just dry, but completely devoid of anything - not a trace of vegetation to be found. Whilst we might be tempted to blame global warming and/or the hole in the ozone layer for the increasing incidence of drought, it is just not true. There were worse droughts 100 years ago and 50 years ago and a fairly bad one in the 1970s. Robyn Subject: aus-wx: Low rainfall > Afternoon all, > > Unless I get 150mm in the next 36 hours to get me to my average, I'll > have managed only about 640mm for 2002 (my 6 year ave is 812mm) - driest > month this year was November with a total of 19mm. I know that's a heck > of a lot more than many people living in harder hit areas. > > What amazed me is the length and breadth of the area effected by this > looong dry spell - in all my life, I have never seen such a wide area > affected by drought, nor can remember one where dams so far afield were > dry. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/112209.jpg The southern > tablelands of NSW see their fair share of dry spells, but over the past > few months I have travelled from western Victoria to northern New South > Wales.....and almost all of it has been horrendously dry. > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/1126tdu01.jpg I've never seen the > Long Paddock used as extensively, in fact stock are moving along major > roads, not just the back roads atm. > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/113001.jpg (this btw, does not > make for ideal stormchase conditions.....) > > My New Year's wish is for slow and steady soaking rain for all (but not > too much, or too fast that the dams end up with all of the washaway from > the paddocks) > > Best wishes to all for the New Year, and please rain for all, > > Jane > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:15:27 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest photographs from recent chases including 23rd Dec 2002 "beast" Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi guys, Sorry for the misinformation below. The Guyra event was on the 22nd December 2002 - so this event was another separate one listed below. The storm complex we were on formed into an MCS that lasted into the early hours of the next morning. Jimmy Deguara At 07:58 AM 30/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hello, > >Latest photographs including the 23rd December 2002 photographs are ones >taken at various times of the beast - check the date in the URL. Please >note that some are out of focus based on David's misinterpretation of >using my camera as well as being on the move in some cases but you can see >the structure regardless. We were only in a small portion of the massive >complex > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20021230.html > >In the photographs > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd06.jpg > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd07.jpg > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd08.jpg > >you can see the Guyra cell to the east that dumped 160mm in 1 hour as well >as hail. Most likely a supercell. And yes, that is a small part of the >anvil shield extending to the Guyra cell!! The anvil shield extended >mainly southeast towards the Mid North Coast. > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd09.jpg > >This was the base/wall cloud of the mesocyclone number 3 near Boggabri. >The mesocyclones on this storm complex were rather large. > >Jimmy Deguara > > > >----------------------------------------- >Please note the change to my new e-mail >address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > >Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com >----------------------------------------- >Jimmy Deguara >Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > >from >Schofields, Sydney >NSW Australia > >e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > >Web Page with Michael Bath > >Australian Severe Weather Home Page >http://www.australiasevereweather.com > >Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Personal accounts of very close ligtning strikes Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:27:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Personal accounts of very close ligtning strikes
I have had 3 close calls, 2 when I was a child in the NT. I was riding my bike out in the bush when a tree was struck about 5 metres from me. Knocked me clean off my bike and split the tree right down the middle. Next one was when I was sitting in a dusty playground and there was a strike right in the middle. Luckily no one was on any of the meatl play equipment. (Probably because it would have been about 40C and a bit too hot to use...) I swear I saw a snake of lightning swing over my outstretched legs, and all my hair was 'pulled' as it went by. It gave me the heebie geebies for days.
 
The last one was when we lived in Paraburdoo in WA and I was standing in the chook pen amid the metal sheds. My spouse was on the verandah, and swore the lightning came straight down and through the top of my head, but I didn't feel a thing. (No brain, no pain?) It must have snaked into the shed at the last second, because I wasn't hit, just deafened. This was the least scary close call, probably because I was an adult.
 
Robyn in Ballarat
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Small
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 12:32 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Personal accounts of very close ligtning strikes

LOL Richard, i bet your poor kelpie got a fright.
I have a similar story about an almost life threatening lightning strike here in 1994.

I am completely exhausted but this is my last post anywhere for the evening.

During 4 days of continuous thundery rain here in SE Qld, i had the old teletext running in the background with the GPATS lightning tracker on page 790 at the time.. and seeing it lit up like a christmas tree was impressive.

Getting to the point, our house was at first "lock-up" stage and we were living "on-site" in a caravan for the parents and for myself, my brother and the rest of the material items we needed, a 20ft atco hut site office.

An interlock steel grating floor was out the front of the caravan, our kitchen at the time (complete with the 240 litre fridge outside under the awning) was on top of this interlock grating. Yes it seems rather odd but this was how we lived for a year until the house was completed, extremely rough but with city-slicker overtones.

The thundery rain decided to pick up a bit more moisture and instability.. and during the day started dropping CG's from the sky like you wouldnt believe.

I remember it like it happened yesterday.

Mum and myself were doing the dishes.. incredibly stupid of me, i was barefoot on this steel flooring and heard a very close flang.. so i sort of went out underneath the canvas awning where our kitchen was, barefeet still and now wet mind you.. and looked about for some more lightning.

I guess a higher power was looking after me that day as i remember every hair on my body standing up on end, the smell of sulphur in the air was almost indescribeable.
I remember the brightest, whitest light i have ever seen in my life.. then an explosion which was not of this earth.

The next thing i knew, i was lying flat on my back, i looked over to mum to see her picking herself up off the grated floor also. This was a good 30 seconds i guess from the initial strike, it could have been 5 seconds or could have been a minute we dont know, it knocked us clean to the ground and my whole body was tingling like i really had been zapped by the thing.

My hearing ability?

It was practically non existant for the rest of the day.
My undies.. well i dont need to go there, you can all guess what happened     o_O

Upon further studies of what happened.. there is an ironbark tree about 7 metres from where we were standing at the time.
The ironbark took a direct strike from a CG and literally blew it to pieces, the poor tree stands where it was hit today, almost 9 years later but never sprouted a shoot again, it got its ass fried well and truly!

I tend to stay under shelter when flangs drop around me nowadays, what i went through in 94 really put the wind up me.


With a hearty goodnight and best new years wishes.. are there any other close calls to be shared amongst us on the list?


Regards
Dale from Jimboomba
*Jimboomba in the native language.. a place of noisy storms and no rain*
How very true!!



X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:53:15 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest photographs from recent chases including 23rd Dec 2002 "beast" Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey guys, Surprise - welcome to the new association:) I have to get time to get the paper work for the association registration. Jimmy Deguara At 11:15 AM 30/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hi guys, > >Sorry for the misinformation below. > >The Guyra event was on the 22nd December 2002 - so this event was another >separate one listed below. > >The storm complex we were on formed into an MCS that lasted into the early >hours of the next morning. > >Jimmy Deguara > >At 07:58 AM 30/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: > >>Hello, >> >>Latest photographs including the 23rd December 2002 photographs are ones >>taken at various times of the beast - check the date in the URL. Please >>note that some are out of focus based on David's misinterpretation of >>using my camera as well as being on the move in some cases but you can >>see the structure regardless. We were only in a small portion of the >>massive complex >> >>http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20021230.html >> >>In the photographs >> >>http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd06.jpg >> >>http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd07.jpg >> >>http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd08.jpg >> >>you can see the Guyra cell to the east that dumped 160mm in 1 hour as >>well as hail. Most likely a supercell. And yes, that is a small part of >>the anvil shield extending to the Guyra cell!! The anvil shield extended >>mainly southeast towards the Mid North Coast. >> >>http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd09.jpg >> >>This was the base/wall cloud of the mesocyclone number 3 near Boggabri. >>The mesocyclones on this storm complex were rather large. >> >>Jimmy Deguara >> >> >> >>----------------------------------------- >>Please note the change to my new e-mail >>address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com >> >>Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com >>----------------------------------------- >>Jimmy Deguara >>Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher >> >>from >>Schofields, Sydney >>NSW Australia >> >>e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com >> >>Web Page with Michael Bath >> >>Australian Severe Weather Home Page >>http://www.australiasevereweather.com >> >>Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association >>http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>message. >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:47:13 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low rainfall Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
there was probably a hell of a lot worse before we got our sorry butts on this wide brown land.
 
richard
 
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Date: Monday, 30 December 2002 11:33:25 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low rainfall
 
It is too easy to look at the weather patterns and the drought and say 'it
has never been so bad', but speaking to family in the Wimmera region of
Victoria, I was told that this is not uncommon. Perhaps with better
communication technology we are able to see every drought effected part of
the country so easily and hear about it constantly. I remember as a small
child seeing thousands of sheep in the long paddock almost every year. Where
I grew up in the NT we had a dog which didn't see rain until she was 3. Each
year through the 1960s we endured months and months of dust-storms in what
should have been our wet season. That drought extended from the Territory
right down through Queensland and well into NSW. The black soil plains of
Queensland were not just dry, but completely devoid of anything - not a
trace of vegetation to be found. Whilst we might be tempted to blame global
warming and/or the hole in the ozone layer for the increasing incidence of
drought, it is just not true. There were worse droughts 100 years ago and 50
years ago and a fairly bad one in the 1970s.

Robyn

Subject: aus-wx: Low rainfall


> Afternoon all,
>
> Unless I get 150mm in the next 36 hours to get me to my average, I'll
> have managed only about 640mm for 2002 (my 6 year ave is 812mm) - driest
> month this year was November with a total of 19mm. I know that's a heck
> of a lot more than many people living in harder hit areas.
>
> What amazed me is the length and breadth of the area effected by this
> looong dry spell - in all my life, I have never seen such a wide area
> affected by drought, nor can remember one where dams so far afield were
> dry. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/112209.jpg The southern
> tablelands of NSW see their fair share of dry spells, but over the past
> few months I have travelled from wesRe aus-wx Low rainfall.ems tern Victoria to northern New South
> Wales.....and almost all of it has been horrendously dry.
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/1126tdu01.jpg I've never seen the
> Long Paddock used as extensively, in fact stock are moving along major
> roads, not just the back roads atm.
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/113001.jpg (this btw, does not
> make for ideal stormchase conditions.....)
>
> My New Year's wish is for slow and steady soaking rain for all (but not
> too much, or too fast that the dams end up with all of the washaway from
> the paddocks)
>
> Best wishes to all for the New Year, and please rain for all,
>
> Jane
>


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Tropical cyclone zoe has been downgraded to a cat 3 and is now under week wind shear, for the next 48 to 72 our it should be around 1004 just a rain depression. And still in the pathof moviing south east. now their is a nother low in the wset witch i will keep you updated on inthe net 48 ours, 50% chance for a tropical cyclone to form .
X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:24:29 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low rainfall Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robyn, You have made some interesting points here. I also have heard about the severe dry that hit in the 1960's - perhaps others can offer their thoughts. Any stats Blair? I do believe the fact that perhaps a city like Sydney getting affected tends to draw quite a bit of response from media and so on. Jimmy Deguara At 11:13 AM 30/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >It is too easy to look at the weather patterns and the drought and say 'it >has never been so bad', but speaking to family in the Wimmera region of >Victoria, I was told that this is not uncommon. Perhaps with better >communication technology we are able to see every drought effected part of >the country so easily and hear about it constantly. I remember as a small >child seeing thousands of sheep in the long paddock almost every year. Where >I grew up in the NT we had a dog which didn't see rain until she was 3. Each >year through the 1960s we endured months and months of dust-storms in what >should have been our wet season. That drought extended from the Territory >right down through Queensland and well into NSW. The black soil plains of >Queensland were not just dry, but completely devoid of anything - not a >trace of vegetation to be found. Whilst we might be tempted to blame global >warming and/or the hole in the ozone layer for the increasing incidence of >drought, it is just not true. There were worse droughts 100 years ago and 50 >years ago and a fairly bad one in the 1970s. > >Robyn > >Subject: aus-wx: Low rainfall > > > > Afternoon all, > > > > Unless I get 150mm in the next 36 hours to get me to my average, I'll > > have managed only about 640mm for 2002 (my 6 year ave is 812mm) - driest > > month this year was November with a total of 19mm. I know that's a heck > > of a lot more than many people living in harder hit areas. > > > > What amazed me is the length and breadth of the area effected by this > > looong dry spell - in all my life, I have never seen such a wide area > > affected by drought, nor can remember one where dams so far afield were > > dry. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/112209.jpg The southern > > tablelands of NSW see their fair share of dry spells, but over the past > > few months I have travelled from western Victoria to northern New South > > Wales.....and almost all of it has been horrendously dry. > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/1126tdu01.jpg I've never seen the > > Long Paddock used as extensively, in fact stock are moving along major > > roads, not just the back roads atm. > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/113001.jpg (this btw, does not > > make for ideal stormchase conditions.....) > > > > My New Year's wish is for slow and steady soaking rain for all (but not > > too much, or too fast that the dams end up with all of the washaway from > > the paddocks) > > > > Best wishes to all for the New Year, and please rain for all, > > > > Jane > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:36:13 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest photographs from recent chases including 23rd Dec 2002 "beast" Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Please ignore this post. Meant for a totally different recipient. My apologies. Jimmy Deguara At 11:53 AM 30/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hey guys, Surprise - welcome to the new association:) > > >I have to get time to get the paper work for the association registration. > >Jimmy Deguara > >At 11:15 AM 30/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >>Hi guys, >> >>Sorry for the misinformation below. >> >>The Guyra event was on the 22nd December 2002 - so this event was another >>separate one listed below. >> >>The storm complex we were on formed into an MCS that lasted into the >>early hours of the next morning. >> >>Jimmy Deguara >> >>At 07:58 AM 30/12/2002 +1100, you wrote: >> >>>Hello, >>> >>>Latest photographs including the 23rd December 2002 photographs are ones >>>taken at various times of the beast - check the date in the URL. Please >>>note that some are out of focus based on David's misinterpretation of >>>using my camera as well as being on the move in some cases but you can >>>see the structure regardless. We were only in a small portion of the >>>massive complex >>> >>>http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20021230.html >>> >>>In the photographs >>> >>>http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd06.jpg >>> >>>http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd07.jpg >>> >>>http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd08.jpg >>> >>>you can see the Guyra cell to the east that dumped 160mm in 1 hour as >>>well as hail. Most likely a supercell. And yes, that is a small part of >>>the anvil shield extending to the Guyra cell!! The anvil shield extended >>>mainly southeast towards the Mid North Coast. >>> >>>http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/1223jd09.jpg >>> >>>This was the base/wall cloud of the mesocyclone number 3 near Boggabri. >>>The mesocyclones on this storm complex were rather large. >>> >>>Jimmy Deguara >>> >>> >>> >>>----------------------------------------- >>>Please note the change to my new e-mail >>>address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com >>> >>>Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com >>>----------------------------------------- >>>Jimmy Deguara >>>Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher >>> >>>from >>>Schofields, Sydney >>>NSW Australia >>> >>>e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com >>> >>>Web Page with Michael Bath >>> >>>Australian Severe Weather Home Page >>>http://www.australiasevereweather.com >>> >>>Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association >>>http://www.severeweather.asn.au >>> >>>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>>message. >>>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>message. >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 13:09:06 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
Sorry guys for continuing this topic but Dale's story of lightning being the cause of sudden medical healing reminded me of a story I once heard on a Wx Doco a few years back. Please excuse my poor memory. A woman who was completely deaf "luckely" got struck by lightning and when she came to, she had her hearing back. I have heard numerous similar stories like these. Any ideas on how lightning might cause this mysterious effect???
 
Deano
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Small
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)


Good evening all.
This is a very interesting debate actually.. although my post here might seem off topic to some, the fact the discussion is on electrical current and their consequences makes me want to share an experience i had around 6 years ago now.. it might be one up on the spark plug thing.

I was at the time looking after my neighbours poddy calf as they were away on a vacation.. so upon entering the yard and feeding the wee thing, it got all excited about the handful of lucerne etc that i had with me and stupidly, i had wandered a little too close to the electric fence that kept "Bob" in his little area he was chewing out.. and poor bob got all excited, bumped me and threw me straight into the fence.

I dont think i need to describe how much of a shocking (tounge in cheek) experience that was, but the after effects made me think some about the event.

I was practically diagnosed with Ross River Fever and around that time there were many reports coming in of people suffering this debilitating and draining disease. My symptoms reflected that but what happened after the very large belt from the fence is very odd.

They literally disappeared the next day.. even my own doctor could not believe it and i did tell him what had happened, he shook his head in disbelief.

Now, im still not saying that it was the belt from the fence that cause these symptoms to disappear, im still very open minded on it but the experience itself is just a little too much to discount. I also do NOT suggest that people throw themselves into fences or pass current through their bodys at anytime to try rid effects of illness, im considering myself very lucky to be alive actually, that was one hell of a shock i recieved, i never thought a fence would do such a thing.

It might explain my silliness at times though.. who knows ;-)


Regards
Dale








lololol phil, i've seen it done with a 1cyl stationary engine,
never had the guts to do it myself,
your balls are bigger than mine.

richard

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From: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 5:38:23 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

Agree with Richard. Whatever the Amps are at the plug, they not much.
Years ago a bloke was skiting away to a group of us about how
wonderfully his Model A Ford was running and how "nothing could stop
it," so I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the heads of
his four spark plugs and stopped it instantly. (Nearly shook my arms
off in the process, but it worked!).
If there was 80 amps there I would've been dead! (I nearly was at the
hands of the Ford owner, but then that's another story!).

Phil
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From: "Richard Modistach" <hambone at dodo.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:19:21 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

> 80 AMPS AT THE POINTS, LOLOLOLOL,

> not bloody likley.

> you can quite happily weld at 80 amps with a 12 guage rod,

> imagine how long your points would last.

>

> Richard

> naracoorte

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: aussie-weather at world.std.com

> Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:08:51 PM

> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

> Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

>

>

>

> Phil Smith wrote:

>

> If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going
> from

> my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if

> this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to

> several million volts of PD (potential difference).

>

> Phil

> <><

> Hi Phil - all

>

> In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the voltage is in
> the
> 100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the pressure. What
> causes
> most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be measured in
> the
> millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current and is the
> amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. Volts is
> the
> amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't have 1
> without
> the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge the gap in
> the
> sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the voltage from 12
> volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the expense of
> amperage
> which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal to 80 amps at
> the
> points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's it simplified
> - it
> s a little more complicated than that however that is the basic
> principle.
> With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and electricity
> takes
> the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. Most
> thunderstorms
> generate static electricity in the millions of amps constantly , most
> of
> which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and only when the
> potential
> is so great does the static electricity discharge to the earth. We see
> that
> as a lightning bolt.

>

> Thus endeth the lecture lolol

>

> For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts yet the
> amount of
> current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in short it can give
> one
> a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 amp the current
> can
> be lethal irrespective of voltage applied.

>

> I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing much however I
> am
> still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final dispersal,
> however that applies to meteorology in general.

>

> Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent photographs you
> have
> put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. Thank you
> all for
> your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone a Happy New
> Year

>

> *HUGS*

>

> Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia.

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: "stephen galowski" <sgalow at ihug.com.au>

> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>

> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000

> Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting

>

>

> with regards to detecting lighting

> is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it

> higher than 0.3 volts

>

> Stephen

>

>

>

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From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 13:54:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
The lightning may have cured 'nerve deafness', which is often behind tinnitus (I have had it since I was 10 or less), although I don't know about other hearing disorders.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

Sorry guys for continuing this topic but Dale's story of lightning being the cause of sudden medical healing reminded me of a story I once heard on a Wx Doco a few years back. Please excuse my poor memory. A woman who was completely deaf "luckely" got struck by lightning and when she came to, she had her hearing back. I have heard numerous similar stories like these. Any ideas on how lightning might cause this mysterious effect???
 
Deano
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Small
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)


Good evening all.
This is a very interesting debate actually.. although my post here might seem off topic to some, the fact the discussion is on electrical current and their consequences makes me want to share an experience i had around 6 years ago now.. it might be one up on the spark plug thing.

I was at the time looking after my neighbours poddy calf as they were away on a vacation.. so upon entering the yard and feeding the wee thing, it got all excited about the handful of lucerne etc that i had with me and stupidly, i had wandered a little too close to the electric fence that kept "Bob" in his little area he was chewing out.. and poor bob got all excited, bumped me and threw me straight into the fence.

I dont think i need to describe how much of a shocking (tounge in cheek) experience that was, but the after effects made me think some about the event.

I was practically diagnosed with Ross River Fever and around that time there were many reports coming in of people suffering this debilitating and draining disease. My symptoms reflected that but what happened after the very large belt from the fence is very odd.

They literally disappeared the next day.. even my own doctor could not believe it and i did tell him what had happened, he shook his head in disbelief.

Now, im still not saying that it was the belt from the fence that cause these symptoms to disappear, im still very open minded on it but the experience itself is just a little too much to discount. I also do NOT suggest that people throw themselves into fences or pass current through their bodys at anytime to try rid effects of illness, im considering myself very lucky to be alive actually, that was one hell of a shock i recieved, i never thought a fence would do such a thing.

It might explain my silliness at times though.. who knows ;-)


Regards
Dale








lololol phil, i've seen it done with a 1cyl stationary engine,
never had the guts to do it myself,
your balls are bigger than mine.

richard

-------Original Message-------

From: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 5:38:23 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

Agree with Richard. Whatever the Amps are at the plug, they not much.
Years ago a bloke was skiting away to a group of us about how
wonderfully his Model A Ford was running and how "nothing could stop
it," so I leaned forward and spanned four fingers across the heads of
his four spark plugs and stopped it instantly. (Nearly shook my arms
off in the process, but it worked!).
If there was 80 amps there I would've been dead! (I nearly was at the
hands of the Ford owner, but then that's another story!).

Phil
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From: "Richard Modistach" <hambone at dodo.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:19:21 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

> 80 AMPS AT THE POINTS, LOLOLOLOL,

> not bloody likley.

> you can quite happily weld at 80 amps with a 12 guage rod,

> imagine how long your points would last.

>

> Richard

> naracoorte

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: aussie-weather at world.std.com

> Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:08:51 PM

> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

> Subject: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

>

>

>

> Phil Smith wrote:

>

> If you mean what is the voltage in the actual lightning bolt, going
> from

> my memory from schooldays 45 years ago (someone please correct me if

> this is no longer valid) this varies from many tens of thousands to

> several million volts of PD (potential difference).

>

> Phil

> <><

> Hi Phil - all

>

> In respect to potential lightning I agree with Phil, the voltage is in
> the
> 100's of 1000's of volts however voltage is only the pressure. What
> causes
> most damage is amperage which in a lightning strike can be measured in
> the
> millions of amps. Amps is the amount of electrical current and is the
> amount of current that can flow at a given moment of time. Volts is
> the
> amount of pressure which the current travels at. You can't have 1
> without
> the other. it takes approx 80 amps at 6000 volts to bridge the gap in
> the
> sparkplug of a car. The coil in a car is to step up the voltage from 12
> volts to approx 6000 volts ; the downside being at the expense of
> amperage
> which drops from approx 300 amps at the battery terminal to 80 amps at
> the
> points ( or EFS) and consequently the spark plug. That's it simplified
> - it
> s a little more complicated than that however that is the basic
> principle.
> With air and moisture, the resistance is much lower and electricity
> takes
> the path of least resistance, hence a lightning bolt. Most
> thunderstorms
> generate static electricity in the millions of amps constantly , most
> of
> which is discharged cloud to cloud or in cloud, and only when the
> potential
> is so great does the static electricity discharge to the earth. We see
> that
> as a lightning bolt.

>

> Thus endeth the lecture lolol

>

> For analogy, electric fences are rated at 80 -90 000 volts yet the
> amount of
> current (amps) is in the milli or micro amperage - in short it can give
> one
> a nasty shock yet is not lethal. Once it gets above 1/2 amp the current
> can
> be lethal irrespective of voltage applied.

>

> I'm a general meteorologist and not into storm chasing much however I
> am
> still keen on the formation of thunderstorms and the final dispersal,
> however that applies to meteorology in general.

>

> Jane and tothe others- thank you for the magnificent photographs you
> have
> put online. they are superb and I greatly appreciate them. Thank you
> all for
> your hard work and dedication and I wish all and everyone a Happy New
> Year

>

> *HUGS*

>

> Richard Kurralta Park. Sth Australia.

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: "stephen galowski" <sgalow at ihug.com.au>

> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>

> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:31:45 +1000

> Subject: aus-wx: question on detecting lighting

>

>

> with regards to detecting lighting

> is the voltage around 0.1 to 0.3 v for most of the dection or is it

> higher than 0.3 volts

>

> Stephen

>

>

>

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From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: aus-wx: WZ Down? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:33:49 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

I can log on to the forums, but the home page will not load? Anyone else having the same problem?

 

James Holbeach

--------------------------------

Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

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From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: WZ Down? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 13:43:09 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
what is the website address please of the wz
Stephen
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:33 PM
Subject: aus-wx: WZ Down?

I can log on to the forums, but the home page will not load? Anyone else having the same problem?

 

James Holbeach

--------------------------------

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Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

--------------------------------

 

Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:49:42 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: WZ Down? X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It's loading okay from HK ATM. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "James Holbeach" To: Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:33:49 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: WZ Down? > I can log on to the forums, but the home page will not load? Anyone > else > having the same problem? > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:58:02 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: WZ Down? X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://www.weatherzone.com.au/ Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "stephen galowski" To: Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 13:43:09 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: WZ Down? > what is the website address please of the wz > Stephen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Holbeach > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:33 PM > Subject: aus-wx: WZ Down? > > > I can log on to the forums, but the home page will not load? Anyone > else having the same problem? > > > > James Holbeach > > -------------------------------- > > Trapdoor Ski Club > > Mt. Hotham, Australia > > ph. 0417 553 757 > > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > > -------------------------------- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: WZ Down? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:04:01 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/

 

 

James Holbeach

--------------------------------

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Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

--------------------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen galowski
Sent:
Monday, 30 December 2002 2:43 PM
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what is the website address please of the wz

Stephen

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:33 PM

Subject: aus-wx: WZ Down?

 

I can log on to the forums, but the home page will not load? Anyone else having the same problem?

 

James Holbeach

--------------------------------

Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

--------------------------------

 

From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: WZ Down? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:04:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com the web site is loading for me ok www.weatherzone.com.au Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:49 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: WZ Down? > It's loading okay from HK ATM. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "James Holbeach" > To: > Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:33:49 +1100 > Subject: aus-wx: WZ Down? > > > I can log on to the forums, but the home page will not load? Anyone > > else > > having the same problem? > > > > James Holbeach > > -------------------------------- > > Trapdoor Ski Club > > Mt. Hotham, Australia > > ph. 0417 553 757 > > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: WZ Down? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:17:05 +1100 Organization: The Weather Co. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
G'day James,
 
Due to the site's rapidly increasing popularity the infrastructure behind it all has a bit of trouble during periods of heavy usage. We are in the process of doing the necessary upgrades to fix this but the problems won't be completely solved for one or two weeks yet.
 
Andrew.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of James Holbeach
Sent: Monday, 30 December 2002 2:34 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: WZ Down?

I can log on to the forums, but the home page will not load? Anyone else having the same problem?

 

James Holbeach

--------------------------------

Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

--------------------------------

 

Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:29:03 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Personal accounts of very close ligtning strikes X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Seems to me it's only about eleven months since this topic came up last... Anyway, I think my experience is about as close as you'd ever want it to get: Years ago, around 1970 I think, although it might have been any time from 1970 to 1972, I was struck by lightning while riding a motorbike and sidecar on the Princes Highway near Morwell in Victoria during a drenching thunderstorm. Even though I had a helmet on which prevented my hair standing on end, there was a brief tingling sensation for about half a second before I was struck. At the moment of the strike I didn't actually realise it was lightning, the driver of the car behind me stopped and told me what had happened. There was this tingling feeling and then I went instantly totally blind - absolute white then absolute black with multicoloured flashes and felt pain all over my face - so I pulled in the clutch and stepped on the brakes and steered vaguely left where I remembered there was flat open grass area beside the road and came to a stop. At the time my outer layer of water-proof clothing was absolutely soaked through, so I guess the lightning went to ground around me rather than through me. The driver of the following car said that both me and the motorbike had become "lit up as bright as the lightning" at the moment of the strike and that the simultaneous bang of thunder was so loud it almost made him wet himself. He was quite sure he would find me dead. It is interesting that I did not hear, or at least was not aware of hearing, the initial bang of the thunder (perhaps because I was in the middle of the flash and the sound was moving outwards away from me), although I was aware of the echoing thunder as I was stopping the bike. My only injury was the part of my face not covered by the helmet which was burned about the colour of severe sunburn. Over the next few days it blistered and peeled. There were a couple of burn marks on the motorbike and one of the wires from the magneto had been fried. I believe God protected me that day. Most are not so fortunate. If there's a storm around and you feel that tingling or your hair stands on end ... GET DOWN INSTANTLY! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Dale Small To: Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 23:32:36 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Personal accounts of very close ligtning strikes > LOL Richard, i bet your poor kelpie got a fright. > I have a similar story about an almost life threatening lightning > strike > here in 1994. > > I am completely exhausted but this is my last post anywhere for the > evening. > > During 4 days of continuous thundery rain here in SE Qld, i had the old > teletext running in the background with the GPATS lightning tracker on > page > 790 at the time.. and seeing it lit up like a christmas tree was > impressive. > > Getting to the point, our house was at first "lock-up" stage and we > were > living "on-site" in a caravan for the parents and for myself, my > brother and > the rest of the material items we needed, a 20ft atco hut site office. > > An interlock steel grating floor was out the front of the caravan, our > kitchen at the time (complete with the 240 litre fridge outside under > the > awning) was on top of this interlock grating. Yes it seems rather odd > but > this was how we lived for a year until the house was completed, > extremely > rough but with city-slicker overtones. > > The thundery rain decided to pick up a bit more moisture and > instability.. > and during the day started dropping CG's from the sky like you wouldnt > believe. > > I remember it like it happened yesterday. > > Mum and myself were doing the dishes.. incredibly stupid of me, i was > barefoot on this steel flooring and heard a very close flang.. so i > sort of > went out underneath the canvas awning where our kitchen was, barefeet > still > and now wet mind you.. and looked about for some more lightning. > > I guess a higher power was looking after me that day as i remember > every > hair on my body standing up on end, the smell of sulphur in the air was > almost indescribeable. > I remember the brightest, whitest light i have ever seen in my life.. > then > an explosion which was not of this earth. > > The next thing i knew, i was lying flat on my back, i looked over to > mum to > see her picking herself up off the grated floor also. This was a good > 30 > seconds i guess from the initial strike, it could have been 5 seconds > or > could have been a minute we dont know, it knocked us clean to the > ground and > my whole body was tingling like i really had been zapped by the thing. > > My hearing ability? > > It was practically non existant for the rest of the day. > My undies.. well i dont need to go there, you can all guess what > happened > o_O > > Upon further studies of what happened.. there is an ironbark tree about > 7 > metres from where we were standing at the time. > The ironbark took a direct strike from a CG and literally blew it to > pieces, > the poor tree stands where it was hit today, almost 9 years later but > never > sprouted a shoot again, it got its ass fried well and truly! > > I tend to stay under shelter when flangs drop around me nowadays, what > i > went through in 94 really put the wind up me. > > > With a hearty goodnight and best new years wishes.. are there any other > close calls to be shared amongst us on the list? > > > Regards > Dale from Jimboomba > *Jimboomba in the native language.. a place of noisy storms and no > rain* > How very true!! 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I guess that would also accomidate the 500 internal server errors I am getting
Stephen
 
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Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: WZ Down?

G'day James,
 
Due to the site's rapidly increasing popularity the infrastructure behind it all has a bit of trouble during periods of heavy usage. We are in the process of doing the necessary upgrades to fix this but the problems won't be completely solved for one or two weeks yet.
 
Andrew.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of James Holbeach
Sent: Monday, 30 December 2002 2:34 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: WZ Down?

I can log on to the forums, but the home page will not load? Anyone else having the same problem?

 

James Holbeach

--------------------------------

Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

--------------------------------

 

From: "Peter Matters" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: WZ Down? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:33:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Hi all,
       Try this url for lightning tracker:
 
It is experimental, and updates every 10 minutes.
To get the update, hit ctrl + F5.
Cheers Peter
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: WZ Down?

G'day James,
 
Due to the site's rapidly increasing popularity the infrastructure behind it all has a bit of trouble during periods of heavy usage. We are in the process of doing the necessary upgrades to fix this but the problems won't be completely solved for one or two weeks yet.
 
Andrew.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of James Holbeach
Sent: Monday, 30 December 2002 2:34 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: WZ Down?

I can log on to the forums, but the home page will not load? Anyone else having the same problem?

 

James Holbeach

--------------------------------

Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

--------------------------------

 

From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: WZ Down? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:45:28 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message

Thanks for that, I can now get back on, but it is very slow. Good luck with the improvements!

 

Cheers

 

James

 

James Holbeach

--------------------------------

Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

--------------------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Miskelly
Sent:
Monday, 30 December 2002 3:17 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: WZ Down?

 

G'day James,

 

Due to the site's rapidly increasing popularity the infrastructure behind it all has a bit of trouble during periods of heavy usage. We are in the process of doing the necessary upgrades to fix this but the problems won't be completely solved for one or two weeks yet.

 

Andrew.

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of James Holbeach
Sent:
Monday, 30 December 2002 2:34 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: WZ Down?

I can log on to the forums, but the home page will not load? Anyone else having the same problem?

 

James Holbeach

--------------------------------

Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

--------------------------------

 

From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: update on zoe Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:03:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
ok thankyou michael wright for that
Stephen
monitor sensors software engineer
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 11:21 AM
Subject: aus-wx: update on zoe

Tropical cyclone zoe has been downgraded to a cat 3 and is now under week wind shear, for the next 48 to 72 our it should be around 1004 just a rain depression. And still in the pathof moviing south east. now their is a nother low in the wset witch i will keep you updated on inthe net 48 ours, 50% chance for a tropical cyclone to form .
User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:22:02 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Personal accounts of very close ligtning strikes From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Scary stuff Phil, youre a lucky man! Infact, youre right again, i do remember when i first joined this list almost a year ago, there was a similar topic hmm.. however your post above was the one that rattled my brain into submission. 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The Bureau of Meteorology in SYDNEY has issued a Severe Thunderstorm Advice for people in the following weather forecast districts: Upper Western and Lower Western, both west of a line through Wilcannia and Balranald. This advice is valid until 9 PM and should not be used after this time. This advice is to extend the area of the advice issued at 3:20 PM. Thunderstorms are occurring within the advice area and are moving to towards the southeast at 60-70 km/hr. Some of these may be severe, bringing damaging winds. Thunderstorms with severe wind squalls have already occurred in much of South Australia this afternoon. The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that people should: * Move your car under cover or away from trees. * Secure or put away loose items around your house, yard and balcony. * Keep clear of fallen power lines. * Unplug computers and appliances. * Avoid using the phone during the storm. * Stay indoors away from windows, and keep children and pets indoors as well. * For emergency help in floods and storms, ring your local SES Unit on 132 500. ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. 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Judy Mayo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Thompson" To: Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 9:18 PM Subject: aus-wx: Chase report and pictures from 27th December Severe storm > I encountered a nice little severe storm on the 27th on the southern > tablelands. > > http://ozthunder.com/chase/chase32.htm > > The storm is a great example of how a wildcard factor can turn a marginal > day into a good one. In this case a weak SE change working up the south > coast, this provided a focus for storm intensification. > > Some great photos even if I say so myself. > > Michael > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Phill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase report and pictures from 27th December Severe storm Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:51:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Nice pictures there! That storm tracked for quite a number of hours, at first moving NE towards wollongong then gradually changed to a northerly course and ended up dying around the blue mountains area. Had a red core on radar for a while too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Thompson" To: Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 9:18 PM Subject: aus-wx: Chase report and pictures from 27th December Severe storm > I encountered a nice little severe storm on the 27th on the southern > tablelands. > > http://ozthunder.com/chase/chase32.htm > > The storm is a great example of how a wildcard factor can turn a marginal > day into a good one. In this case a weak SE change working up the south > coast, this provided a focus for storm intensification. > > Some great photos even if I say so myself. > > Michael > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) From: Rhett Blanch To: "aussie-weather at world . std . com" Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:07:21 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase report and pictures from 27th December Severe storm Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, You don't just have to say so yourself - they are great photos! 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it has been reported that 2 of the outer islands of the soloman island have lost communications to the outside world .
 
A navy patrol boat has been dispatched and will arrive in 3 days to assess the extent of the damage
 
Stephen galowski
 
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low rainfall Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 21:29:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This may be true for most of Australia, but I firmly believe the Illawarra is in its worse ever drought since white settlement - albeit a little break at the moment. My reasoning is the dying trees, some must be several decades old. Even some rainforest pockets are dying. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 11:13 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low rainfall > It is too easy to look at the weather patterns and the drought and say 'it > has never been so bad', but speaking to family in the Wimmera region of > Victoria, I was told that this is not uncommon. Perhaps with better > communication technology we are able to see every drought effected part of > the country so easily and hear about it constantly. I remember as a small > child seeing thousands of sheep in the long paddock almost every year. Where > I grew up in the NT we had a dog which didn't see rain until she was 3. Each > year through the 1960s we endured months and months of dust-storms in what > should have been our wet season. That drought extended from the Territory > right down through Queensland and well into NSW. The black soil plains of > Queensland were not just dry, but completely devoid of anything - not a > trace of vegetation to be found. Whilst we might be tempted to blame global > warming and/or the hole in the ozone layer for the increasing incidence of > drought, it is just not true. There were worse droughts 100 years ago and 50 > years ago and a fairly bad one in the 1970s. > > Robyn > > Subject: aus-wx: Low rainfall > > > > Afternoon all, > > > > Unless I get 150mm in the next 36 hours to get me to my average, I'll > > have managed only about 640mm for 2002 (my 6 year ave is 812mm) - driest > > month this year was November with a total of 19mm. I know that's a heck > > of a lot more than many people living in harder hit areas. > > > > What amazed me is the length and breadth of the area effected by this > > looong dry spell - in all my life, I have never seen such a wide area > > affected by drought, nor can remember one where dams so far afield were > > dry. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/112209.jpg The southern > > tablelands of NSW see their fair share of dry spells, but over the past > > few months I have travelled from western Victoria to northern New South > > Wales.....and almost all of it has been horrendously dry. > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/1126tdu01.jpg I've never seen the > > Long Paddock used as extensively, in fact stock are moving along major > > roads, not just the back roads atm. > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/113001.jpg (this btw, does not > > make for ideal stormchase conditions.....) > > > > My New Year's wish is for slow and steady soaking rain for all (but not > > too much, or too fast that the dams end up with all of the washaway from > > the paddocks) > > > > Best wishes to all for the New Year, and please rain for all, > > > > Jane > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase report and pictures from 27th December Severe storm Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 21:37:51 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have since had reports from a property owner in the area that hail fell near Braidwood and Nerriga. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phill" To: Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 5:51 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase report and pictures from 27th December Severe storm > Nice pictures there! That storm tracked for quite a number of hours, at > first moving NE towards wollongong then gradually changed to a northerly > course and ended up dying around the blue mountains area. Had a red core on > radar for a while too. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Thompson" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 9:18 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Chase report and pictures from 27th December Severe storm > > > > I encountered a nice little severe storm on the 27th on the southern > > tablelands. > > > > http://ozthunder.com/chase/chase32.htm > > > > The storm is a great example of how a wildcard factor can turn a marginal > > day into a good one. In this case a weak SE change working up the south > > coast, this provided a focus for storm intensification. > > > > Some great photos even if I say so myself. > > > > Michael > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" >If > there's a storm around and you feel that tingling or your hair stands on > end ... GET DOWN INSTANTLY! > > Phil > <>< +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.31.48.3] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low rainfall Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 11:07:39 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2002 00:07:39.0267 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1801530:01C2B060] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Robyn, Jimmy et al

No denying the prevalence of past droughts.  I remember '82 and its stunning denoument with the Ash Wednesday bushfires.  '67 is etched in my memory with horrifying footage of the Hobart bushfires and memory of my father being employed in drought relief projects.  But what the BoM has starkly highlighted is the unprecedented (as far back as records go) spread of the current drought.  The below average rainfall figures for every capital city bear this out.

I remember reading somewhere that Cyclone Justin, back in '97, churning in the Western Pacific for weeks, has been speculatively attributed as having sparked of an El Nino event.  Wonder if Zoe, should she hang around for some time, might help break down the warm water, Mid Pacific, associated with the current El Nino.

>From: Jimmy Deguara
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low rainfall
>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:24:29 +1100
>
>Hi Robyn,
>
>You have made some interesting points here. I also have heard about
>the severe dry that hit in the 1960's - perhaps others can offer
>their thoughts. Any stats Blair?
>
>I do believe the fact that perhaps a city like Sydney getting
>affected tends to draw quite a bit of response from media and so on.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
>At 11:13 AM 30/12/2002 +1100, you wrote:
>>It is too easy to look at the weather patterns and the drought and
>>say 'it
>>has never been so bad', but speaking to family in the Wimmera
>>region of
>>Victoria, I was told that this is not uncommon. Perhaps with better
>>communication technology we are able to see every drought effected
>>part of
>>the country so easily and hear about it constantly. I remember as a
>>small
>>child seeing thousands of sheep in the long paddock almost every
>>year. Where
>>I grew up in the NT we had a dog which didn't see rain until she
>>was 3. Each
>>year through the 1960s we endured months and months of dust-storms
>>in what
>>should have been our wet season. That drought extended from the
>>Territory
>>right down through Queensland and well into NSW. The black soil
>>plains of
>>Queensland were not just dry, but completely devoid of anything -
>>not a
>>trace of vegetation to be found. Whilst we might be tempted to
>>blame global
>>warming and/or the hole in the ozone layer for the increasing
>>incidence of
>>drought, it is just not true. There were worse droughts 100 years
>>ago and 50
>>years ago and a fairly bad one in the 1970s.
>>
>>Robyn
>>
>>Subject: aus-wx: Low rainfall
>>
>>
>> > Afternoon all,
>> >
>> > Unless I get 150mm in the next 36 hours to get me to my average,
>>I'll
>> > have managed only about 640mm for 2002 (my 6 year ave is 812mm)
>>- driest
>> > month this year was November with a total of 19mm. I know
>>that's a heck
>> > of a lot more than many people living in harder hit areas.
>> >
>> > What amazed me is the length and breadth of the area effected by
>>this
>> > looong dry spell - in all my life, I have never seen such a wide
>>area
>> > affected by drought, nor can remember one where dams so far
>>afield were
>> > dry. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/112209.jpg The
>>southern
>> > tablelands of NSW see their fair share of dry spells, but over
>>the past
>> > few months I have travelled from western Victoria to northern
>>New South
>> > Wales.....and almost all of it has been horrendously dry.
>> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/1126tdu01.jpg I've never
>>seen the
>> > Long Paddock used as extensively, in fact stock are moving along
>>major
>> > roads, not just the back roads atm.
>> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/113001.jpg (this btw,
>>does not
>> > make for ideal stormchase conditions.....)
>> >
>> > My New Year's wish is for slow and steady soaking rain for all
>>(but not
>> > too much, or too fast that the dams end up with all of the
>>washaway from
>> > the paddocks)
>> >
>> > Best wishes to all for the New Year, and please rain for all,
>> >
>> > Jane
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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X-Originating-IP: [203.109.175.80] From: "John Roenfeldt" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: WA TORNADO Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 08:59:57 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2002 01:00:21.0810 (UTC) FILETIME=[FE85D920:01C2B067] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
 
Hi Greg,
 
What time were you guys in Wongan Hills?  I got there a little late at about 5pm.
 
What route did you guys take to get to Wongan Hills?
 
JR
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 6:51 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: WA TORNADO

Myself and Mark Dwyer were in Wongan Hills at the time of the tornado but unfortunately never saw it. As we were heading south from Wongan Hills we drove through some really heavy rain and very strong winds, would have been 100kmph+, the trees were bent over quite a fair way and there was branches blowing across the road. The wind started from right then swung to the left, lasted 15-20 seconds then pretty much stopped. We're not sure exactly what it was, we either sideswiped the tornado as we drove through or caught the edge of the RFD. Theres video footage and photos of the storm but Im still halfway through the rolls so will get them developed asap
 
Regards
 
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Richard Modistach
Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2002 12:41 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: WA TORNADO

um, yeah, that happened back on the 26th
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:00:05 PM
Subject: aus-wx: WA TORNADO
 
Has anyone see this ! It happened in WA at 4pm yeasterday according to reports.
 
 
Peter
(New Year Resolution : To become more active in this group)
 
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Embedded Content: IMSTP42.gif: 00000001,4cdfe31f,00000000,00000000 X-Originating-IP: [203.221.137.18] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Wycheproof wx... Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 14:55:36 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2002 03:55:37.0042 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A16EB20:01C2B080] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, Thought I'd let you all know that we've had 41mm so far from this rain event bringing the year's total to 225mm...while this may not sound awesomely dry to most I'd just like to point out that 83mm of that yearly total has fallen since November 25!!! Yep...drought's broken for sure!!! :)) Woken by thunder at 6 this morning and jumped up to watch a spectacular hour and a half of light and sound!!!! Too early, too wet (and batteries too flat in the camera) for any pix unfortunately... Hope all on the list have a great 2003 both wx-wise and otherwise... Cheers, Kevin from Wycheproof 36.08 S 143.23 E _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_advancedjmf_3mf +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: aus-wx: 2002 rainfall (fwd) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 16:55:59 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I suspect the formatting on this is going to be mangled, but I hope you can make sense of it anyway. It says everything that needs to be said that only 2 of the sites I miss exceed 100% of normal. Blair Site 2002 Normal % of normal Rank (and lowest) Lowest since Comments Capital cities Perth AP 648.2 789 82 10 (523.8, 1969) 2001 Darwin AP 1217.6 1700 72 7 (1024.7, 1946) 1979 Brisbane AP# 667.2 1190 56 12 (411.5, 1902) 2000 Adelaide# 377.6 563 67 13 (257.8, 1967) 1994 Sydney 860.0 1221 70 19 (583.0, 1888) 2000 Very dry after wet Feb Canberra AP 504.4 626 81 16 (261.6, 1982) 2001 Melbourne 396.8 655 61 3 (332.3, 1967) 1997 2 of 3 driest years in last 6; 6 consec years below normal Hobart 465.2 619 75 15 (390.2, 1979) 2000 Other Met Offices Halls Creek# 581.6 556 104 72 (202.8, 1989) 1992 10 consec years above normal Broome# 458.4 594 77 35 (132.0, 1992) 1994 Port Hedland# 168.2 312 54 17 (44.5, 1944) 1992 127.6mm on June 5, only 1.8 since Carnarvon# 114.8 229 50 18 (67.6, 1891) 2001 Meekatharra# 186.2 238 78 36 (48.6, 1944) 1994 Geraldton# 298.0 461 65 11 (225.9, 1948) 1976 Albany# 667.4 798 84 8 (611.6, 1983) 1987 Esperance# 447.8 618 72 4 (404.2, 1994) 1994 Eucla 282.6 268 105 74 (112.2, 1905) 1998 Kalgoorlie# 190.8 269 71 27 (108.7, 1940) 1991 Giles 155.8 283 55 9 (38.0, 1961) 1985 Tennant Creek# 427.8 454 94 83 (93.9, 1935) 1999 Alice Springs# 195.6 286 68 42 (60.5, 1928) 1999 130.4 in November, 5.6 Mar-Oct Woomera 53.4 188 28 1 (82.4, 1991) - Ceduna# 170.8 301 57 4 (145.3, 1914) 1994 Mt Gambier# 680.8 707 96 48 (365.2, 1967) 1999 Weipa# 1629.2 1776 92 35 (1048.9, 1919) 1993 Mt Isa# 189.4 447 42 5 (138.7, 1928) 1972 Nearby MIM site only got 150 Cairns AP# 715.2 1994 36 1 (928.1, 1966) - Record by 213mm Townsville# 768.2 1135 68 25 (245.5, 1935) 2001 549mm in Feb Mackay# 1032.8 1585 65 13 (794.6, 1987) 2001 Longreach# 107.0 453 24 1 (108.3, 1902) - Rockhampton# 360.6 811 44 1 (394.0, 1957) - Amberley 617.0 861 72 8 (391.8, 2000) 2000 Charleville# 340.4 489 70 33 (203.2, 1899) 1992 Cobar# 202.0 407 50 20 (101.6, 1982) 1991 Moree# 278.2 585 48 2 (202.7, 1902) 1902 Coffs Harbour# 1280.0 1705 75 22 (685.0, 1915) 1997 Williamtown 1050.2 1126 93 23 (541.0, 1980) 2000 Richmond 582.4 821 71 9 (308.2, 1944) 1993 Wagga Wagga# 377.2 580 65 8 (236.5, 1944) 1982 Mildura AP 192.4 290 66 8 (121.6, 1982) 2001 2nd lowest prior to 31/12 rain Sale 455.8 615 74 9 (328.1, 1972) 1999 Launceston AP 571.0 681 84 13 (409.9, 1972) 1997 Other sites of interest Andamooka 39.0 201 19 1 (74.0, 1977) - Roxby Downs 32.8 too short for normals Bedourie 33.4 184 18 1 (39.0, 1963) - Winton 52.6 407 13 1 (86.9, 1905) - Weeaproinah 1863.4 1939 96 42 (1229.7, 1967) 2000 O'Shannassy 986.7 1421 69 4 (845.6, 1997) 1997 Erica (Parkers Cnr) 793.4 1178 67 1 - 4 drier years at Erica, but old site is ~10% drier Warburton E 921.4 1392 66 2 (857.0, 1997) 1997 only 18 years record Marree 44.6 164 27 2 (39.3, 1967) 1967 Mt Read 4293.2 too short for normals 211mm short of Tas record Bourke# 86.4 352 25 1 (102.2, 1929) - Tibooburra 63.6 225 28 6 (47.9, 1919) 1928 Moruya Heads 778.4 965 81 37 (467.8, 1982) 2000 Jervis Bay 1039.5 1244 84 40 (585.9, 1940) 2000 # multiple sites used for rankings +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Greg Spencer" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: WA TORNADO Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 16:30:07 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
John,
 
We came into Wongan Hills from the SW and left to the south towards Goomalling
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of John Roenfeldt
Sent: Tuesday, 31 December 2002 9:00 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: WA TORNADO

 
Hi Greg,
 
What time were you guys in Wongan Hills?  I got there a little late at about 5pm.
 
What route did you guys take to get to Wongan Hills?
 
JR
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 6:51 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: WA TORNADO

Myself and Mark Dwyer were in Wongan Hills at the time of the tornado but unfortunately never saw it. As we were heading south from Wongan Hills we drove through some really heavy rain and very strong winds, would have been 100kmph+, the trees were bent over quite a fair way and there was branches blowing across the road. The wind started from right then swung to the left, lasted 15-20 seconds then pretty much stopped. We're not sure exactly what it was, we either sideswiped the tornado as we drove through or caught the edge of the RFD. Theres video footage and photos of the storm but Im still halfway through the rolls so will get them developed asap
 
Regards
 
Greg
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Richard Modistach
Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2002 12:41 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: WA TORNADO

um, yeah, that happened back on the 26th
 
richard
 
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Date: Sunday, 29 December 2002 2:00:05 PM
Subject: aus-wx: WA TORNADO
 
Has anyone see this ! It happened in WA at 4pm yeasterday according to reports.
 
 
Peter
(New Year Resolution : To become more active in this group)
 
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Embedded Content: IMSTP44.gif: 00000001,008bb99b,00000000,00000000 X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 23:04:35 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good on you for capturing that tornado. I did the same on Oct 27th here in Christchurch by filming the tornado between Lincoln and Halswell. It wasn't mini like the recent one in Perth. TV3 or TVNZ didn't credit the NZTS for footage just saying that it was amateur footage although one channel did pay me remuneration. JohnGaul NZTS >At 10:56 PM 28/12/2002 +0930, you wrote: >>Apologies - got the link wrong. >> >>http://www.crosstravel.com.au/28D ec.htm >> >>hehe here it is. :-) >> >>Paul Mossman >>NT State ASWA Rep >>Hi all, >> >>Darwin had a tornado here this morning. My footage featured on the Local >>News (Channel 9). >> >>Here is the >>report: >>http://www.crosstravel.com.au/Dec 28.htm >> >> >>Anyone that may have saved Darwin Local for 23UTC 27 dec to 01 UTC 28 Dec >>I would love a copy please. :) >> >>Paul Mossman >>NT State ASWA Rep >>Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum >>email: ntstorms at bigpond.com >>MSN: ntstorms at hotmail.com >>ICQ: 111144666 >>Mobile: 0401115483 >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Keith Barnett >>To: Weather list >>Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 8:31 PM >>Subject: aus-wx: Cyclone Zoe >> >>now 890 millibars as per >> >>http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_pro ds/0641.html >> >> >>latest analysis >> >>http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_pro ds/20031.txt >> >> >> >>Keith Barnett >>Weather fanatic and classical musician >>Website: http://www.wthrman.com >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: I'm home Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 22:50:16 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
All the best for everyone for the New Year. It's been a tough one all over Australia, but the Australian spirit will always shine through and we'll get straight back on our horses.
It's been tough everywhere we've looked this year. Politically, environmentally or whatever.
We as Australians are a very proud people and can get over anything, as we have in the past and will do in the future.
Not only to the Aussies on the list but to all, I wish you all the best for the New year.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 21:05:21 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: Subject: aus-wx: Humour X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com There has been much recent discussion on widespread drought. Some time back, while drought was under discussion, somebody (was it Jane?) quoted John O'Brien's poem "Said Hanrahan" in connection with the drought. That rung a bell with me about a much earlier poem that had us cacking with laughter as kids, but I could only remember the last two lines, minus the central character's name. Well, finally it came back to me, I looked it up, and here it is: HOLY DAN -- Anonymous. It was in the Queensland drought; And over hill and dell, No grass – the water far apart, All dry and hot as hell. The wretched bullock teams drew up Beside a water-hole – They’d struggled on through dust and drought For days to reach this goal. And though the water rendered forth A rank, unholy stench, The bullocks and the bullockies Drank deep their thirst to quench. Two of the drivers cursed and swore As only drivers can. The other one, named Daniel, Best known as Holy Dan, Admonished them and said it was The Lord’s all-wise decree; And if they’d only watch and wait, A change they’d quickly see. ’Twas strange that of Dan’s bullocks Not one had gone aloft, But this, he said, was due to prayer And supplication oft. At last one died but Dan was calm, He hardly seemed to care; He knelt beside the bullock’s corpse And offered up a prayer. "One bullock Thou has taken, Lord, And so it seemeth best. Thy will be done, but see my need And spare to me the rest!" A month went by. Dan’s bullocks now Were dying every day, But still on each occasion would The faithful fellow pray, "Another Thou has taken, Lord, And so it seemeth best. Thy will be done, but see my need, And spare to me the rest!" And still they camped beside the hole, And still it never rained, And still Dan’s bullocks died and died, Till only one remained. Then Dan broke down – good Holy Dan – The man who never swore. He knelt beside the latest corpse, And here’s the prayer he prore. "That’s nineteen Thou has taken, Lord, And now You’ll plainly see You’d better take the bloody lot, One’s no damn good to me." The other riders laughed so much They shook the sky around; The lightning flashed, the thunder roared, And Holy Dan was drowned. Date unknown, but certainly before 1926, probably late 18th century. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 21:10:26 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com May I echo Bussy's wishes for a great new year. As I type, it's already 2003 from NSW south to Tas. There's not much on the list because everyone is busy celebrating. We get going here in a few hours, but at my age I have a bad habit of sneaking off to bed early so all the rockets will go off without me watching them. Anyway all the best to everyone and may you all be blessed in the New Year. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 22:50:16 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: I'm home > All the best for everyone for the New Year. It's been a tough one all > over Australia, but the Australian spirit will always shine through and > we'll get straight back on our horses. > It's been tough everywhere we've looked this year. Politically, > environmentally or whatever. > We as Australians are a very proud people and can get over anything, as > we have in the past and will do in the future. > Not only to the Aussies on the list but to all, I wish you all the best > for the New year. > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 21:22:58 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Personal accounts of very close ligtning strikes X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yeah, that "creepiness" in the spine is unforgettable for the rest of your life. As a teacher, I was once walking the grade six girls back from sport when the hair of the long-haired girl in front of me suddenly stood straight up and we all had that "creepy" feeling and I yelled out, "Everyone face-down on the ground. NOW!" Only seconds after the last kid had hit the deck, the Flang took out the power transformer on the pole about sixty metres away. It wasn't all that close, but I fear it might have been, had just one of those kids disobeyed. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:03:35 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Personal accounts of very close ligtning strikes > In my memory, it was the tingling and hair standing on end sensation > which > felt the worst. Mybe it included the hairs on the back of my neck, but > it > also felt 'creepy' all the way down my spine. > > Robyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Smith" > > >If > > there's a storm around and you feel that tingling or your hair stands > on > > end ... GET DOWN INSTANTLY! > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------