http://australiasevereweather.com/ Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 00:13:02 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List Subject: aus-wx: Happy Spring!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Happy Spring everyone!!! May your thunderstorms be rotating, and your hail be denting (but not too denting...), may the CGs carve their images into your eyes and may all your chases be successful. And what a better way to open up the first day of spring with a chance of storms! It looks like the storms will form further west of here though (ie, Downs), and then move over late tomorrow as storms and rain. The timing of the trough for SE QLD is not quite ideal, it looks to come through early Sunday - so that is a little annoying, but oh well. Shear is impressive, but not quite as strong as last week, 20-25kn NW at 850, 40-45kn NW at 700, 40-45kn WNW at 500, 120kn WNW at 300 - but we're on the wrong position of the jet (northern edge), I prefer to be on the southern edge - it also means are air is colder at 300. But the 500 temps will once again be quite cold (high negative teens), and DPs were up to the mid teens this evening, but have now gone down (12/12 here), due to night cooling. I can't chase tomorrow arvo...so perhaps Murphy's forecast is for a good day. Also, we have $20,000 worth of windows sitting beside our currently constructed house at the farm...so Murphy might send some golfball hail over Grandchester...(perhaps a chaser would be kind enough to counteract that and sit there to ensure hail falls elsewhere?) AC -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: IMAGES: today's weather Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 01:07:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Steve, Images are at: (& a bit better than first uploads) http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/Stm310801a.jpg http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/Stm310801b.jpg http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/Stm310801c.jpg http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/Stm310801d.jpg http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/Stm310801e.jpg http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/Stm310801f.jpg http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/Stm310801g.jpg http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/Stm310801h.jpg http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/Stm310801i.jpg http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/Stm310801j.jpg http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/Stm310801k.jpg http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/Stm310801l.jpg http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/Stm310801m.jpg Images taken at regular intervals between 2:30pm and 4:30pm. By 5:30pm it had completely dissipated with no visible trace. I like (b)(k)(l) & (m) the best, with a nice little overshoot in the last. John >snip evenin all, we had one small storm that passed over the northern end of the gold coast. they got rain, but all we got was sunshine. the storm had plenty of thunder when it was around mt tambourine b4 it continued east. i got these images at around 4 ish as it was just off southport. at this stage i believe it had a pink or red spot on radar. it reminded me a lot like nov 7 99 http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01083101.jpg http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01083102.jpg then this sunset picture http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01083103.jpg thanx to john woodbridge for his images from the other side of the storm from south western brisbane area. i've lost the links. hopefully someone else kept them. they were quite good. storms forecast here tomorrow and again on sunday b4 clearing in teh afternoon. see live images at http://www.bsch.au.com/webcams/index.html cyas tomorrow Steve Baynham icq : 26863574 http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au Brisbane Storm Chasers http://www.bsch.au.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nick Sykes" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Happy Spring!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 06:36:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Aug 2001 20:35:05.0537 (UTC) FILETIME=[6AECD310:01C1325C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes a happy spring to all And even better when you wake to the BOM on the radio area saying that in Northern Victoria today there will be strong vertical development, good chance storms, clearance after the cloud band combined with high moisture due to rain, ahhhh, and look at the low on the sat pic. Also BOM saying warming up late next week, with Melbourne likley to crack the 20 for the first time this season. Bring on this mighty time of year!!!!!!!!!!!!! good luck to all out chasing today :) Nick Sykes +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: 2 lows Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 07:22:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ther are 2 lows in the SA - Vic region this morning, 1 near Adelaide & another smaller one closer to Mildura. Have a look at http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA1508.gif Isolated storms north of the ranges after 12pm forecast...watch the clear patches amongst the MLC for some activity later on!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.192.36] From: "S G" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 2 lows Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 09:14:29 +0930 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Aug 2001 23:44:31.0236 (UTC) FILETIME=[E168DC40:01C13276] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The low near Adelaide is moving slightly further south than forecast and could possibly cause that rainband over Pt Lincoln with falls above 30mm to move over Adelaide if the winds turn more SSW which they are starting to do a bit around the Adelaide area. The other possibility is all the activity basically moves over the northern agriculutral districts as the low weakens which is what BOM seems to be going for at the moment. Low cloud has thickened a lot around Adelaide in the last half hour hopefully we get some showers from this system. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au (Unverified) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 09:33:44 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide am Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey all Very slack air over Adelaide in the last 12 hours as the low goes overhead. I had another 10mm overnight to bring August's rain to just over 100mm. Impressive and making for a wet [but boring weather wise] winter. Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p987-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.143.225] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 10:36:27 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 2 lows Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com They seem to be merging and going NE towards Broken Hill. http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/SEAus1900z.gif http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/Adelaide1900z.gif http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/SEAus2100z.gif http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/SEAus2100zStreamz.gif http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/Ad_BH_2100zSynop.gif S G wrote: > > The low near Adelaide is moving slightly further south than forecast and > could possibly cause that rainband over Pt Lincoln with falls above 30mm to > move over Adelaide if the winds turn more SSW which they are starting to do > a bit around the Adelaide area. The other possibility is all the activity > basically moves over the northern agriculutral districts as the low weakens > which is what BOM seems to be going for at the moment. Low cloud has > thickened a lot around Adelaide in the last half hour hopefully we get some > showers from this system. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p987-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.143.225] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 12:53:08 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather Subject: aus-wx: Saturday 01 Sep Noon 0200z SEA charts Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/SEA0200zStnsStream.gif http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/SEA0200zISOs.gif http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/SEA0200zHEATs.gif +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Max King" To: Subject: aus-wx: Sydney This Afternoon Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 13:33:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Good afternoon Group,
 
General concencous has it that something is likely to happen this afternoon in the general vicinity of the Sydney Metropolitan area, and slightly to the North thereof. James Pickett and Myself are about to take to the road to see what We can find.
If anyone has any info or updates about whats happening, we would greatly appreciate it being passed on to us :)
My mobile is 0412-208928 
James` is 0416-347936 
 
Thanks
Max.
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WOAH JUST SAW THIS!
 
IDQ10700
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
Queensland Region
Brisbane Office


QUEENSLAND WEATHER FORECAST
Issued at 11:35am on Saturday the 1st of September 2001

IDQ1070001
WARNING SUMMARY
A strong wind warning is current for coastal waters between Bowen and
Coolangatta for the afternoon.
A severe thunderstorm advice for Wide Bay, Burnett and Southeast coast.

X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p987-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.143.225] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 15:43:17 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather Subject: aus-wx: Sat 01 Sep 0500z - 3pm SAE charts Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/SEAus0500zMetar.gif http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/SEAus0500zStream.gif http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/SEAus0500zVortDiv.gif +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.30.4] From: "Rune Peitersen" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 17:49:45 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2001 07:49:45.0411 (UTC) FILETIME=[AACF6930:01C132BA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Currently watching an absolute beast of a storm to our northeast, nearing Gosford/Wyong, never seen updraughts shoot up so fast, about 40 pixels of red on the radar, looks awesome in the setting sunlight, its quite fast moving with overshoots galore at times shooting up way above the anvil line, Wyong is going to get SMASHED!!!!,,, _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 18:07:00 +1000 From: David Carroll X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: [Fwd: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Rune. I have been talking with Matt Smith , who is chasing with Jimmy out near Singleton. They had been watching this storm from a distance and I advised them it was red on radar.. I also contacted some relatives who live in Wyong area to warn them .. Yet to get update on how severe this storm is.. I would say hail for sure. Looks like another storm heading to Dorrigo area, then onto Nambucca heads.. Oberon had small storm, minor amount of lightning strikes, heading SE now with another storm below it. Dave Bathurst. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 17:49:45 +1000 From: "Rune Peitersen" Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Currently watching an absolute beast of a storm to our northeast, nearing Gosford/Wyong, never seen updraughts shoot up so fast, about 40 pixels of red on the radar, looks awesome in the setting sunlight, its quite fast moving with overshoots galore at times shooting up way above the anvil line, Wyong is going to get SMASHED!!!!,,, _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Carolyn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:33:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Rune, Wyong did/is getting smashed...with hail. Just been talking to someone whose friend lives there and his car has been smashed by hail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rune Peitersen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 5:49 PM Subject: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast > Currently watching an absolute beast of a storm to our northeast, > nearing Gosford/Wyong, never seen updraughts shoot up so fast, about 40 > pixels of red on the radar, looks awesome in the setting sunlight, its quite > fast moving with overshoots galore at times shooting up way above the anvil > line, Wyong is going to get SMASHED!!!!,,, > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.29.156.4] From: "T Middleton" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow pics - Barrington Tops Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 09:10:12 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2001 09:10:13.0058 (UTC) FILETIME=[E84FE220:01C132C5] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tim, NICE photos :) thanks for posting them for all to see i visited the Barrington Tops earlier this year and got a great LITTLE thundery shower! nice place :-)http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils/Barrington_tops.htm keep the photos coming :) kind regards tm Anvil Industries http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils >From: "Tim Grugeon" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: Snow pics - Barrington Tops >Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 23:51:58 +1000 > >Hi all, > >I have got some of my snow photos up and going on the web that I took >earlier in the week on the Barrington Tops. They can be found at >http://hunterweather.port5.com/photography/snow270801.htm >I have also added some older photos of mine at >http://hunterweather.port5.com/photography/general.htm > >Cheers, > >Tim Grugeon >Maitland, NSW >http://hunterweather.port5.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 19:43:20 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I met Jimmy and Geoff today and we hung around at a truck stop near Jerrys Plains (hunter) and watched and waited, and waited, and waited... some weak activity in the wollemi national park was going for a while, and all of a sudden it just took off big time, with massively strong updraughts kicking up on the back end, while the storm seemed to move SEish. We did not follow, but rather observed from a distance as the storm was in the national park. The storm was isolated, not a cloud in the way, with huge boiling masses constantly going up on the back end, very similar in appearance to this storm, but with much stronger updraughts, and not as nicely sunlite as this photo. http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/Matt/2000/tdu-11-28-00-13.htm Anyway... I suspect it was a supercell, had all the characteristics. Can possibly the BoM let us know? The storm died very shortly after sunset. Matthew Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Vic ASWA meeting Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 20:39:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just writing to say that my "first" ASWA meeting was a real buzz and that I really enjoyed my visit to the BoM and extend my thanks to Kevin for making it "understandable" by Bushman terms. I thought that I'd get there and I'd be over-whelmed by technical expressions etc but left very happy that I'd made the trip, and pretty well understood everything he said. Thanks to all the other people there that made my trip worthwhile. Thanks everyone. Do they really stick their hands out the window to see if it's raining or not :-) How hard are you going to try to get me back to Melbourne now Jane :-) Seriously though. Much appreciate the friendliness of everyone, even though I'd never met any of you. Well, Clyve and Jane excepted. Bit concerned though that they thought of me as famous. Can't quite fathom that. Some heavy rain and some flashes to the west on the way home. 5mm today Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.29.156.4] From: "T Middleton" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Strzelecki snow Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 10:36:21 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2001 10:36:21.0944 (UTC) FILETIME=[F1354B80:01C132D1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hi Phil,Michael and Ben, thanks for the complimentary replies this week. also thanks to nature for presenting the oppotunities too regards tm Anvil Industries http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils >From: "Phil Smith" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Strzelecki snow >Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 22:30:39 +0800 > >Wow! Those are some of the best photos of snow I have seen. Well done. >I used to frequent the Strzeleckis years ago, but I have never seen them >looking so beautiful. >Thanks for sharing them with us. Especially since my perspiration is >dripping on the keyboard at 90%RH and 29C at 22:30 at night! > >Phil ><>< >International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk >Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk >Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: "T Middleton" >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:49:05 >Subject: aus-wx: Strzelecki snow > > > hi all, > > i've just added some photos of snow in the Strzelecki ranges in S-SW > > Gippsland last week.I missed the best of the snow (thanks work and > > floods > > :P) > > anyway enjoy the pics.. > > > > http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils/SRS01.htm > > > > regards tm > > Anvil Industries > > http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [165.228.129.11] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Line of storms on Grafton radar Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 11:07:48 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2001 11:07:48.0655 (UTC) FILETIME=[55C68BF0:01C132D6] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well theres definitely a well formed line of storms on the Grafton Radar now... (9pm saturday) In Coffs harbour, there was one huge CG (about 1km away) which really shook the house at 7:20pm. seeya David Sercombe, Coffs Harbour NSW. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 21:30:25 +1000 From: David Carroll X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: NSW NOTES Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thought everyone would like to see what is still in store for us. Dave IDN10030 BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE NSW FORECAST POLICY Issued at 11:30am on Saturday the 1st of September 2001 MSL PATTERN OVER THE NEXT THREE DAYS Saturday 01/09/01 midnight A low located over South Australia will move into western Victoria during the day. A front extends from the low into New South Wales and Queensland. The front will move to the coast by Saturday night. Rain or showers are likely through most of the state and isolated thunderstorms in the east of the state. Sunday 02/09/01 midnight On Sunday the low is expected to move into the Tasman Sea off the south coast with a cooler northwest to southwest airstream over New South Wales. Showers are expected to continue over the southern half of the state, particularly on the slopes and western ranges. Snow likely on the Alps and isolated thunderstorms should develop again in the southeast during the day. Moderate to fresh winds. Monday 03/09/01 midnight On Monday the low will continue to develop in the Tasman Sea and another front will approaching western New South Wales later in the day. Showers will continue in the southeast, but should contract to the southern ranges during the day. Snow showers will still be likely on the Alps. Tuesday 04/09/01 midnight On Tuesday the low in the Tasman will move slowly eastwards towards New Zealand. The front in the west will move through much of New South Wales during the day. The northeastern corner should remain dry, but patchy rain is expected over the remainder of the state and colder southerly winds behind the change. Snow on the Alps. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p987-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.143.225] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 18:51:01 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Massive TSTORM, central coast Wyong NSW - and Warrick QLD Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Charts for 6pm 0800z http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/SEAus0800z_004_WarwickLocal.gif http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/SEAus0800z_003_WyongLocal.gif http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/SEAus0800z_001.gif http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/Current/SEAus0800z_002.gif David Carroll wrote: > > Hi Rune. > > I have been talking with Matt Smith , who is chasing with Jimmy out > near Singleton. They had been watching this storm from a distance and > I advised them it was red on radar.. I also contacted some relatives > who live in Wyong area to warn them .. Yet to get update on how > severe this storm is.. I would say hail for sure. Looks like another > storm heading to Dorrigo area, then onto Nambucca heads.. > > Oberon had small storm, minor amount of lightning strikes, heading > SE now with another storm below it. > > Dave > Bathurst. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast > Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 17:49:45 +1000 > From: "Rune Peitersen" > Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Currently watching an absolute beast of a storm to our northeast, > nearing Gosford/Wyong, never seen updraughts shoot up so fast, about 40 > pixels of red on the radar, looks awesome in the setting sunlight, its > quite > fast moving with overshoots galore at times shooting up way above the > anvil > line, Wyong is going to get SMASHED!!!!,,, > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay Organization: Davsoft To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Nice Little Cell in Brisbane Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:22:11 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just drove through a nice little cell in Brisbane. The worst of it seemed to go south of me, but I did get a few flangs. I would have chased if it wasn't for the load of computer gear in the back seat. I didn't want to bounce that around too much. Doesn't it just scare the hell out of you when you get a lightning strike right in front of you while driving? I was blinded by one of them for a few seconds. :-P David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.22.86.227] From: "Dave Ellem" To: Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW Light Show!!! Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:22:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2001 12:23:27.0376 (UTC) FILETIME=[E7106900:01C132E0] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi!
That was a great event. I really got to try out my digi with a decent lightning show. About 70 pics all up, about 9 of decent CG's. Hail to 1cm here. Multiple CG's and CC's! What a show. Anyway, here's some pics of the action. Very wet and windy here at 10.21pm. Gotten quite cool to. 13.7 degrees.
Dave Ellem
Wollongbar,
Northern Rivers,
NE NSW,
 
X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p217-tnt4.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.134.217] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 22:36:43 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Chase today Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Just a brief report on the situation. The storm developed in the region near the Putty Road but was weak for some time. Then it began to really take off as it neared the coast during the late afternoon. In fact it literally sent updraughts at the rear which were quite strong. Then it slowly began to show backshearing despite the very strong wind shear. It remained sunlit for quite sometime and with the angle we had, it looked awesome reflecting brilliantly in the setting sun. Photographs will show this. The crispness of this reminds me of some of the photos I have seen in the US. Brilliant stuff... This was an example of how important it is to have dry air aloft. I do believe it was a supercell but we should wait until this is confirmed. The soundings including the lower level backing certainly supports this possibility. One of the unfortunate things is that the road network we faced was hopeless. We didn't even bother trying to chase it. I was surprised that there was reasonable backbuilding though as the storm did not move as fast as I expected in that region... I suppose the main part of the jet was further north. It was also unfortunate that the air around the Hunter was fairly dry and there was a fairly strong cap. Anyway, we shall see what damage may have been caused by the storm. Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Anthony Spierings" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: NE NSW Light Show!!! Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:50:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow Dave, Great pictures... Could you give a little more detail on how you took them with the digi? Regards, Anthony Spierings as029 at bigpond.net.au Hi! That was a great event. I really got to try out my digi with a decent lightning show. About 70 pics all up, about 9 of decent CG's. Hail to 1cm here. Multiple CG's and CC's! What a show. Anyway, here's some pics of the action. Very wet and windy here at 10.21pm. Gotten quite cool to. 13.7 degrees. Dave Ellem Wollongbar, Northern Rivers, NE NSW, http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de01.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de02.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de03.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de06.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de07.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de08.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de04.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de05.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de09.jpg +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 22:57:49 +1000 From: Andrew Miskelly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Marginal Snow Situation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Currently hovering between 2 and 3 degrees here in Taralga with a few light showers around. As Jimmy has mentioned, AVN has a spot (literally 1 pixel) of 540 thickness directly over Taralga tomorrow at 00Z so we may have a few snow showers over night and early tomorrow. Interesting stuff. Andrew. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.22.86.226] From: "Dave Ellem" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW Light Show!!! Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 23:12:04 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2001 13:12:49.0851 (UTC) FILETIME=[CCD638B0:01C132E7] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi! I have a Kodak DC4800. I put the camera on 2+ exposure compensation and set the f-stop to f2.8. I had the shutter speed on 16sec (which is the highest it has) and had it mounted on a sturdy tripod. Then I just carefully pressed the button, waited till the pic was taken, viewed it, then clicked again. Did it 69 times =) Dave Ellem ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Spierings To: Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 10:50 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: NE NSW Light Show!!! > > Wow Dave, > > Great pictures... > > Could you give a little more detail on how you took them with the digi? > > > > Regards, > > Anthony Spierings > as029 at bigpond.net.au > > > > > > Hi! > That was a great event. I really got to try out my digi with a decent > lightning show. About 70 pics all up, about 9 of decent CG's. Hail to > 1cm here. Multiple CG's and CC's! What a show. Anyway, here's some pics > of the action. Very wet and windy here at 10.21pm. Gotten quite cool to. > 13.7 degrees. > Dave Ellem > Wollongbar, > Northern Rivers, > NE NSW, > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de01.jpg > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de02.jpg > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de03.jpg > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de06.jpg > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de07.jpg > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de08.jpg > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de04.jpg > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de05.jpg > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901de09.jpg > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 00:11:05 +1000 From: Andrew Miskelly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: What is 'BR'? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com AMEND AREA FORECAST 011300 TO 012300 AREA 21 ... AMD WEATHER: TS, RA, SH, FOG, BR VISIBILITY: 3000M TSRA/BR, 5000M SH/RA +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: aus-wx: Canberra's afternoon Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 01:25:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Well welcome spring....
Today we had heavy Rain accompainied by a few rumbles of thunder.........
I reckon 12mm of rain fell, but cant be sure.. I wish i wasn't at work today the first "storm" of the spring and i missed it......
 
Simon Angell
Canberra ACT
From: dactyl at world.std.com To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 12:02:12 -0400 Subject: Re: aus-wx: What is 'BR'? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com BR is mist :) tara US lurker On 2 Sep 2001, at 0:11, Andrew Miskelly wrote: AMEND AREA FORECAST 011300 TO 012300 AREA 21 ... AMD WEATHER: TS, RA, SH, FOG, BR VISIBILITY: 3000M TSRA/BR, 5000M SH/RA +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.87.17] From: "S G" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Torrential rain in Adelaide Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 06:12:28 +0930 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2001 20:42:28.0227 (UTC) FILETIME=[9D33B530:01C13326] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I haven't seen anything like this in years. It has been raining all night and now the rain has become torrential this morning, garden is flooded under 2 inches of water, all over the garden. Roads are totally flooded. Kent Town has had over 40mm making it the highest 24hour total all year and maybe even over last year as well, I think. A line of convection has just continued to sweep across the Adelaide Metro Area in association with the wrap around from the low. Areas to the east and west of Knet Town are not getting anywhere near as much. Parawa is nearly up to 70mm!!! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Cloud cover Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 10:53:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Probably an obvious answer but why do we measure cloud cover as 7/8 etc Why not just say 80% cover or something? Just wondering. Got 8/8 and light mist here at present. Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p987-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.143.225] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 11:47:47 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud cover Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Humans estimate best by binary. Decimals are too hard. Bussie wrote: > > Probably an obvious answer but why do we measure cloud cover as 7/8 etc > Why not just say 80% cover or something? Just wondering. Got 8/8 and light > mist here at present. > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Cloud cover Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 12:03:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I think it is to make it easier for observers. Dividing the sky into two halves, then halving it again to get quarters and again to get eighths is easier for human eyes, and more likely to produce a correct result when estimating how much of the sky is covered. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Bussie > Sent: Sunday, 02 September, 2001 10:54 AM > To: weather list > Subject: aus-wx: Cloud cover > > > Probably an obvious answer but why do we measure cloud cover as 7/8 etc > Why not just say 80% cover or something? Just wondering. Got 8/8 and light > mist here at present. > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: bayns at mail.broad.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 12:12:03 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Steve Baynham Subject: aus-wx: IMAGES/REPORT: last nights storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hi everyone, glorious day here on the gold coast after a couple of storms brushed passed. they looked very intense on radar but both trackers did not pick up the lightning that was going off almost every second at times. anyway heres my stills the first 2 are night vision (0 lux) the last one listed is the best http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090101.jpg http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090102.jpg http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090103.jpg http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090104.jpg http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090105.jpg http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090106.jpg ben typed up this brief report this morning http://www.bsch.au.com/reports/ cyas Steve Baynham icq : 26863574 http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au Brisbane Storm Chasers http://www.bsch.au.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Carolyn" To: Subject: aus-wx: change in the Hunter Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 13:39:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi,
well after a lovely sunny morning, it is now very overcast with winds increasing in speed.  No rain at the moment, but it is possible for later in the day, especially looking towards the west.
 
Tim, what is it like over Maitland way, Cessnock is at its usual state, windy but not much else?
 
Carolyn
From: Tim Eckert To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [203.173.250.143] Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 13:01:16 +0930 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: aus-wx: torrential rain in Adelaide Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Kent Town recorded a total of 43.2mm which I believe is a September daily record for Adelaide beating 40mm recorded on 20-9-1923. Largest rainfall recorded was at Parawa in the Southern Fleurieu Peninsula with 77mm. Tim Eckert. __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Australia" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: change in the Hunter Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 14:04:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Carolyn,
 
Clouding up a little bit in Sydney (Beacon Hill - Northern Beaches) at the moment. (Dont know the technical name for the clouds but they look like they have a bit of rain in them - very white on top). Had a great view from my back patio of the storms at sea last night. They were in the SE so unfortunately not the beauty that went through Wyong.
 
Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn
Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2001 13:39
Subject: aus-wx: change in the Hunter

Hi,
well after a lovely sunny morning, it is now very overcast with winds increasing in speed.  No rain at the moment, but it is possible for later in the day, especially looking towards the west.
 
Tim, what is it like over Maitland way, Cessnock is at its usual state, windy but not much else?
 
Carolyn
From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud cover Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 14:35:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sounds good to me. Thanks for that. Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurier Williams" To: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 12:03 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Cloud cover > I think it is to make it easier for observers. Dividing the sky into two > halves, then halving it again to get quarters and again to get eighths is > easier for human eyes, and more likely to produce a correct result when > estimating how much of the sky is covered. > > Laurier > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Bussie > > Sent: Sunday, 02 September, 2001 10:54 AM > > To: weather list > > Subject: aus-wx: Cloud cover > > > > > > Probably an obvious answer but why do we measure cloud cover as 7/8 etc > > Why not just say 80% cover or something? Just wondering. Got 8/8 and light > > mist here at present. > > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase today Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 15:25:06 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This storm could be seen to the NE from my kitchen window right on sunset. This is a least 150km south as the crow flies. I remarked to my wife that it had an overshoot and looked severe. The area about 100km SE of Wollongong put on a lightning show last night. Michael > remained sunlit for quite sometime and with the angle we had, it looked > awesome reflecting brilliantly in the setting sun. Photographs will show > this. The crispness of this reminds me of some of the photos I have seen in > the US. Brilliant stuff... This was an example of how important it is to +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Tim Grugeon" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: change in the Hunter Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 15:56:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Carolyn,
 
It has been partly cloudy here all afternoon. There is currently about 6/8 cloud cover. This morning it was a 3/8. The winds are blowing at 15kts, so it isn't too bad.
 
Cheers,
 
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:39 PM
Subject: aus-wx: change in the Hunter

Hi,
well after a lovely sunny morning, it is now very overcast with winds increasing in speed.  No rain at the moment, but it is possible for later in the day, especially looking towards the west.
 
Tim, what is it like over Maitland way, Cessnock is at its usual state, windy but not much else?
 
Carolyn
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 16:21:40 +1000 From: David Carroll X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Bathurst - Rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI all.. In last 15 min, rain started to fall. Nothing real heavy. Radar shows a bit around Oberon also. Temp is falling, down to 9 deg in Bathurst. Humidity is 85. Dave +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 17:43:50 +1000 From: Andrew Miskelly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Snow Pics: Taralga 27/8 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I have put a page up with 12 scanned pictures from the snowfalls around Taralga last week, taken by my dad Paul. It's at http://members.ozemail.com.au/~amiskelly/snow/270801.html Enjoy. Andrew. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: Record rain in SA, Qld; record cold in WA, NT Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:56:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The record August 24 hour rainfall for Adelaide (Kent Town) of 43.2mm for the 24 hours to 9 this morning has already been noted. However, Hawker, about 60km NE of Port Augusta broke a more significant record this morning if its report of 55.6mm is to be believed. Hawker's previous August record in 115 years was 46.7. Hawker recorded 39.4 at 9am yesterday, so that's a 48 hour total of 95mm. Not many reports received to 9 this morning, as it is a Sunday, but the nearest ones are Quorn 24.8+11.6=36.4 and Wilmington 33.0+21.2=54.2. Any South Australians have information about this? Bowen AP broke a shorter record this morning with 39.6 in the gauge. The previous record in 14 years at the site was 23.4. I didn't see comment on the list about the unusually cold minima recorded in the west yesterday. According to my figures, the following August records were broken (previous record and years of computerised record in brackets). The Port Hedland figure is significant, with over 50 years of record. Derby AP WA: 11.7 (12.4, 14) Port Hedland AP WA: 7.7 (8.4, 53) Warburton AF WA: 0.0 (0.2, 10) Telfer AP WA: 6.2 (7.0, 24) Watarrka NT: -2.8 (-0.6, 10) Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 08:25:08 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record rain in SA, Qld; record cold in WA, NT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Can't give you specifics Laurier, But there have been reports on the radio here over the w/e about 12 groups of bushwalkers currently stranded in the Central Flinders following '5 inches' of rain. Apparently the Wilpena campground is isolated from the nearby national park headquarters by the swollen Wilpena Creek. I'd say a check of the Wilpena Chalet's rain in the last few days would be very interesting [for those who don't know, Wilpena Chalet is on the eastern side of Wilpena Pound at about 550masl and has the highest rainfall in the central Flinders of about 450mm] Phil [who has recorded over 60mm at St Peters since Friday] >The record August 24 hour rainfall for Adelaide (Kent Town) of 43.2mm for >the 24 hours to 9 this morning has already been noted. However, Hawker, >about 60km NE of Port Augusta broke a more significant record this morning >if its report of 55.6mm is to be believed. Hawker's previous August record >in 115 years was 46.7. Hawker recorded 39.4 at 9am yesterday, so that's a 48 >hour total of 95mm. Not many reports received to 9 this morning, as it is a >Sunday, but the nearest ones are Quorn 24.8+11.6=36.4 and Wilmington >33.0+21.2=54.2. Any South Australians have information about this? > >Bowen AP broke a shorter record this morning with 39.6 in the gauge. The >previous record in 14 years at the site was 23.4. > >I didn't see comment on the list about the unusually cold minima recorded in >the west yesterday. According to my figures, the following August records >were broken (previous record and years of computerised record in brackets). >The Port Hedland figure is significant, with over 50 years of record. > >Derby AP WA: 11.7 (12.4, 14) >Port Hedland AP WA: 7.7 (8.4, 53) >Warburton AF WA: 0.0 (0.2, 10) >Telfer AP WA: 6.2 (7.0, 24) >Watarrka NT: -2.8 (-0.6, 10) > >Laurier > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 10:51:38 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: BoM 256km range radars Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Just looking at the BoM radar page, there now exists the option of 256km radar images in addition to the 128km range images. http://mirror.bom.gov.au/weather/radar/ However, clicking on these links doesn't bring up anything, but if you have a registered BoM account, then the images work fine. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: BoM 256km range radars Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 11:23:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Just looking at the BoM radar page, there now exists the option of 256km > radar images in addition to the 128km range images. > http://mirror.bom.gov.au/weather/radar/ > > However, clicking on these links doesn't bring up anything, but if you > have a registered BoM account, then the images work fine. No account here, and they show up fine! -------------------------------------- Paul Mirtschin - Ph 0414 658 174 Designer - Writer paul at nothingdesign.com.au www.nothingdesign.com.au Give me the smartest hamster you have! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: BoM 256km range radars Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 11:37:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Robert, they're working fine for me now at 11.36am EST using Netscape 4.76. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Robert Goler > Sent: Monday, 03 September, 2001 10:52 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: BoM 256km range radars > > > > Hi all > > Just looking at the BoM radar page, there now exists the option of 256km > radar images in addition to the 128km range images. > http://mirror.bom.gov.au/weather/radar/ > > However, clicking on these links doesn't bring up anything, but if you > have a registered BoM account, then the images work fine. > > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > School of Mathematical Sciences > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Tim Grugeon" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow Pics: Taralga 27/8 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 13:01:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Andrew, Great pics!! The amount of snow looks similar to what I found at Tomalla (Barrington Tops) last week. The difference is Tomalla is 1300m asl. Amazing to see that there was that much snow at a low elevation. Cheers, Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 5:43 PM Subject: aus-wx: Snow Pics: Taralga 27/8 > Hi all, > > I have put a page up with 12 scanned pictures from the snowfalls around > Taralga last week, taken by my dad Paul. It's at > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~amiskelly/snow/270801.html > > Enjoy. > > Andrew. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:14:14 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Winter Temps Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sydney had its 2nd hottest Winter ever - jusdt behind 1988 but apparently Melbourne and Perth and possibly other were well up there.... so takne as a whole, the country could have had its warmest ever Winter season. Any comments, Blari or Laurie ? Don W +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "islesit" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Snow Pics: Taralga 27/8 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 15:00:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dear Andrew, Thanks for the pics. Im envious. Took the kids to see the snow on the northern tablelands and got a nice drive in the warm winter sun(inside the car)/ with cold wind and icy temps outside. The snow arrived about 5 hours later. Thanks for taking effort to put them on the net. Best wishes Ian Isles -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Andrew Miskelly Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2001 5:44 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Snow Pics: Taralga 27/8 Hi all, I have put a page up with 12 scanned pictures from the snowfalls around Taralga last week, taken by my dad Paul. It's at http://members.ozemail.com.au/~amiskelly/snow/270801.html Enjoy. Andrew. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: New radars (BoM 256km range radars) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 15:41:01 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all The BoM now also quite a few more radars online - Syndey now has 3 (yes THREE), with Kurnell and Sydney Airport added and Darwin, Cairns, Townsville, Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth all have the airport radars online. It looks like these are only available through the registered users radar - i imagine they'll be added to the ASWA site ASAP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurier Williams" To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 11:37 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: BoM 256km range radars > Robert, they're working fine for me now at 11.36am EST using Netscape 4.76. > > Laurier > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Robert Goler > > Sent: Monday, 03 September, 2001 10:52 AM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: aus-wx: BoM 256km range radars > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > Just looking at the BoM radar page, there now exists the option of 256km > > radar images in addition to the 128km range images. > > http://mirror.bom.gov.au/weather/radar/ > > > > However, clicking on these links doesn't bring up anything, but if you > > have a registered BoM account, then the images work fine. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > -- > > > > Robert A. Goler > > > > School of Mathematical Sciences > > Monash University > > Clayton, Vic 3800 > > Australia > > > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > > email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > > > -- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p152-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.140.152] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:26:43 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: snow, Blue Mountains - a tale from long ago. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Very true re the police attitude and their propensity to close the roads, and the fact that you then get stranded or face a very long detour. Snow chasing in the Blue Mountains is likely to lead to some frustrations that could out weigh the fun. A personal experience to illustrate. The last time I was up there, and there was any snow (late 70's from memory) the police closed the GWH at about 2am at Penrith to stop people going up at all. I found out later that the only people that they let through after that were residents up to Blackheath, but not further. I later deduced that I had passed Blackheath apparently just before the police came out to close the road with barriers there. I knew nothing of what was happening at the time of course. There was quite a bit of snow on the roads and it was fun slow driving through it (plenty of rally experience, no problem, and I had chains in the boot anyway. We used to go skiing so often I eventually bought a set, it was cheaper than hiring them every other week). In any case, by the time I got to Mount Lambie, I was a bit tired and figured a pie and pees and a coffee would go down well. So I pulled in, noting with some surprise that the place was chokers with trucks. Seemed a bit odd, even for the conditions. Truckies are supposed to be made of sterner stuff thought I ! Anyway, in finding a place to park, it dawned on me, that come to think of it, I hadn't seen any other traffic, going either way for "ages". Very odd. So, get out, enter the cafe. Bloody cold, howl of a wind. Time, about 3:30 / 4am, memory is a bit dim on that. I get inside, and walk up to the counter. Girl looks up, says nothing, looks down again. So, since she has seen me, I order the aforementioned, whilst looking around, during which time I notice two rather beefy guys sitting at a table down the end, apparently playing chess, and assume they are a couple of truckies. The girl (mid twenties, nothing special, had been sitting down reading a mag), gets herself up in a manner suggestive of not particularly being pleased at having been disturbed, and rather off handedly says "what'satluv....." So, with the completion of the "luv...." I turn to her and says, "I would like a pie and pees, no sauce, and a coffee, white, no sugar, thanks,.... luv" (with only a very slightly amusing inflection, if you know what I mean - try your luck - any port in a "storm" type thing !). Suddenly,..... one of the gorillas at the table turns around, and rather "arrogantly" ... "demands" to know who the hell I am !! Thinking it might be the young lady's other half, I instantly decide discretion may be the better part of valour. Upon turning to face him, I notice his parker has splayed open as he has half turned around in the chair, and his gun is in full view. Whereupon he stood up and came over to me, and asked where I had come from (they had seen the lights when I drove in). I explained up from Sydney. He said that was crap, the road was closed. I said it wasn't, after all, I was here. A short silence ensued. The other officer got up and came over, and wanted a report of the road, all the way up. So, after pie pees and coffee were provided, I was "invited" back to their table for a "quiet chat" (read interrogation, well, so it seemed). They turned out to be quite reasonable. They were Bathurst cops and had driven up earlier in a 4 WD Toyota Land cruiser, and had no idea what the conditions were to the east of Mount Lambie. The discussion was cordial, and a complete road report was made. Then they wanted to know where I was going, which was Bathurst. So, deciding that I was able to continue, they told me to take it easy, and report in at Bathurst Police Station when I got there. This allowed them to sit tight, nice and warm !! They didn't need to go on to (Katoomba I think it was) nor patrol back towards Bathurst, since I had effectively done it (the eastern part) and was just about to do the western part for them ! To sweeten the deal, they even paid for my second coffee ! Find a cop that will offer you a deal like that today ! Anyway, the trip west was a no brainer. I considered at the time that they were being overly cautious in closing the road, but I was a lot younger then too. The road is better and the cars are better and easier to drive - under normal conditions that is. Over those last 25 odd years though, public driving skills have got worse not better. Couple that with the legal mine fields today of "duty of care" and all that, it is hardly surprising that they close roads these days at the drop of a single flake. So, snow chasing could get interesting, or frustrating, depending more on the attitude of the local police, than the weather. PeterC Laurier Williams wrote: > > Definitely the most gung-ho Bureau forecast I've seen in a while (4.30pm > issue, below), with snow to 800m for the Central and Northern NSW > Tablelands, and in the forecasts for Orange, Bathurst and Katoomba. The key > will be in the meaning of "snow later". Going on the latest AVN, which seems > to ride a nice line between the EC and GASP/LAPS/mesoLAPS, snow should start > falling in the Blue Mountains early Sunday evening. AVN has the 850 temp > dipping below zero around 9pm and staying there until late Monday morning, > with the wind staying WNW after the passage of the first trough, then > turning SW later Monday afternoon. AVN also forecasts up to 10mm precip > during this time, which is consistent with a wind blowing from N of W, so at > long last we may get a combination of cold + precip. Every other cold spell > here (Blackheath) so far this year has been devoid of the necessary > moisture, with southwesterlies being bled of any moisture as they track over > the high country around Oberon. > > However, for the chasers, the timing will be critical as at present snow > doesn't look like falling until after dark. Just to add to the cautions in > Matthew's note, the word snow in the forecast for Katoomba should ensure > that every man and his child-who-has-never-seen-snow will be up here > tomorrow. Also a reminder that the police up here have become very > protective in recent years, and close off the Great Western Highway and > Bells Line of Road at the first hint that lowest-skilled drivers may not be > able to cope with the conditions, and when that happens the only ways back > to Sydney are via Goulburn or the Hunter. > > I'll keep the list informed on conditions at Blackheath, and anyone chasing > who wants an update can phone or SMS me on 0428 877 276. Here's hoping this > will be a good one! > > Laurier > > CENTRAL TABLELANDS > Sunday > A sheep graziers warning for cold, wet and windy weather. > Rain or showers, falling as snow above 800 m later. Chance of thunderstorms. > Cold. Fresh to strong northwest winds ahead of a squally westerly change in > the > afternoon. > > Orange for Sunday > Rain tending to snow later. Cold. Fresh to strong northwest winds turning > colder > squally westerly in the afternoon. > Min:2 Max:11 > Bathurst :Rain/snow later. Windy. > Min:3 Max:12 > Katoomba :Rain/ snow later. Windy. > Min:5 Max:11 > > NORTHERN TABLELANDS > Sunday > Sheep Graziers Warning for cold, wet and windy weather. > Rain or showers developing with snow above 800 m Sunday night. Chance of > thunderstorms. Cool to cold. Strengthening northwest winds ahead of a > strong westerly change in the afternoon. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Smith > > Sent: Saturday, 25 August, 2001 1:38 PM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: aus-wx: snow > > > > > > > > For those snow chasing tomorrow on the blue mountians, dont forget to > > take into account it will be a sunday arvo/evening, and the traffic > > comming back to sydney will be shocking. Given the wet/snowy conditions > > it will make things worse so be prepared :) > > > > Tim would you be interested in going up the barrington tops tomorrow > > arvo if it still looks good? > > > > Matt Smith > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: aus-wx: Massive storm at Mt Baw Baw :-) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 14:37:42 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If you believe the AWS data, there must have been a massive storm over Mt. Baw Baw this morning, with gusts to 69 knots and 193mm of rain falling in the hour between 0630 and 0730. Much as it may be nice to fantasise about activity of such magnitude, I think it reasonable to assume that the aforementioned numebrs are the result of a dodgy AWS. (Baw Baw is notorious for bad rainfall data - typically generating spurious rainfall obs from melting snow a couple of days after a cold outbreak - but I suspect this one might have other problems). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [141.132.128.52] From: "Leslie Baxter" To: pyole at australia.edu, aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Re: ASWA Online Newsletter contributions Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 03:10:10 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2001 03:10:10.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[F127B470:01C13425] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Paul, how are ya buddy Well I have a report for ya The Sunday Noon Weather Patrol Around Colac Woke up Sunday morning with a slight hang over and I went outside. For a early spring day was it rather warm, with the fog burning off, no wind and a nice deep blue sky above things could turn out nicely. After a bit of rain in Colac on Saturday, the ground was damn and with the sun warming it up nicely it was only a matter of time, and where, for the Cu to develop. Heading off to church at 11am Sunday with my Uncle I noticed that yes I was correct and come nice 'turkeys' where bubbling up to the WSW of Colac, and I said to my uncle we could get a storm perhaps sometime ttoday and he calmly agreed. After church there was Towering Cu everywhere and one went Cb out to the WNW towards Alvie. So I I took my camera (Doh only 2 or 3 shots left!) and head off to one of my favourite viewing points, Red Rock; an extinctt Volcano about 15km WNW of Colac. So I got there and paning around there was Cu Towers everywhere, but the Cb I saw had rapidly died :(, but a new one was bellowing up to the SSW or Red Rock and it was raining from it. I turning on the walkman and put it on the "lightning tracker" am band to listen for the crackles. I waited and waited, nothing not a thing! Not happy, but I took a few pics and headed back into town. I drove around the outskirts of the town and well I was lucky, out of one of the Cb "Calvus" (?) out dropped a nice funnel! So with the last shot I framed it, hopefully it'll turn out! Well the Cu died as the day got older, I'd say the CAPE weakend dramatically. Currenttly back in Ballarat it's nice and mild with a fair amound of Cu so perhaps it could all happen again as another front knockls on Victoria's western door. Cheers Les Baxter Ballarat Weather >From: Paul Yole >Reply-To: Paul Yole >To: Leslie Baxter >Subject: ASWA Online Newsletter contributions >Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 19:19:19 +0800 > > Leslie, > >Just a quick letter requesting any chase reports, questions >for ASWA members or anything of interest to do with the weather to >be published in the ASWA Online Newsletter. > >Could all reports (Links preferably) and anything else of >interest be sent to me at pyole at australia.edu by the 5th September >2001,with the subject "Online Newsletter Contributions". I look forward >to receiving them > >Regards, > >PaulY > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mattb at mail.chariot.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 17:37:48 -0400 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matthew Bonser Subject: Re: aus-wx: torrential rain in Adelaide Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It's not over yet either - the bureau has the change on Friday looking good.

Friday    :  Rain developing during the morning.  A cold, fresh southwest change
to follow with showers and isolated small hail.

Cheers

Matt B

At 13:01 2/09/01 +0930, you wrote:
>Kent Town recorded a total of 43.2mm which I believe is a September
>daily record for Adelaide beating 40mm recorded on 20-9-1923.
>Largest rainfall recorded was at Parawa in the Southern Fleurieu
>Peninsula with 77mm.
>
>Tim Eckert.
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From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Winter Temps To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 17:02:03 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Sydney had its 2nd hottest Winter ever - jusdt behind 1988 but > apparently Melbourne and Perth and possibly other were well up there.... > so takne as a whole, the country could have had its warmest ever Winter > season. > Any comments, Blari or Laurie ? > Don W Haven't checked the final numbers yet, but when I did a preliminary check last Thursday: Brisbane Airport and Sydney were looking at record mean maxs for winter. Melbourne was looking at a record high mean min for winter. The seasonal mean (combination of max + min) was running equal to record levels at Melbourne with 2 days to go. Sydney, as Don mentioned, was 2nd to 1988. Perth Airport's mean min was the third-lowest on record (and lowest since 1960), impressive given that there's a bit of an urbanisation signal there. The mean max was well above normal but not in record territory. For the nation as a whole, the maximum temperature anomaly was +0.76 degrees, the fifth-highest on record (1996 being the highest). The minimum temperature anomaly was -0.10 degrees - it was quite a cool winter (minimum-wise) in much of northern and western Australia. Looking at state averages for the mean winter max, Queensland's ranked 2nd, NSW 3rd, Victoria and Tasmania 4th. Notable rainfall averages for winter were set in SA (7th wettest on record) and SW WA (5th driest on record). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record rain in SA, Qld; record cold in WA, NT To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 17:40:11 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > The record August 24 hour rainfall for Adelaide (Kent Town) of 43.2mm for > the 24 hours to 9 this morning has already been noted. However, Hawker, > about 60km NE of Port Augusta broke a more significant record this morning > if its report of 55.6mm is to be believed. Hawker's previous August record > in 115 years was 46.7. Hawker recorded 39.4 at 9am yesterday, so that's a 48 > hour total of 95mm. Not many reports received to 9 this morning, as it is a > Sunday, but the nearest ones are Quorn 24.8+11.6=36.4 and Wilmington > 33.0+21.2=54.2. Any South Australians have information about this? > > Bowen AP broke a shorter record this morning with 39.6 in the gauge. The > previous record in 14 years at the site was 23.4. I think you meant to say September records? (46.7 was the Hawker September record, so you haven't made a mistake on that). Worth mentioning that the Adelaide (Kent Town) figure is also above the highest September daily total in the 140-year record at the former West Terrace site. They're not directly comparable but they're pretty close (on opposite sites of the Adelaide CBD). Having queried it with the SA Regional Office, there is no basis in fact (as far as we know) for media reports of falls exceeding 200mm in the Wilpena area. (Wilpena itself got 125, and I wouldn't be surprised if the upper reaches of the Pound did get close to 200, but there are no gauges there). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record rain in SA, Qld; record cold in WA, NT Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 18:08:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blair wrote: > I think you meant to say September records? (46.7 was the Hawker > September record, so you haven't made a mistake on that). It was the weekend, and the internal calendar hadn't clicked over yet. Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.89.222] From: "S G" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record rain in SA, Qld; record cold in WA, NT Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 17:40:23 +0930 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2001 08:10:23.0825 (UTC) FILETIME=[E1C9E410:01C1344F] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Another area of very slow moving rain to the west is moving into an area of extremely high moisture levels over Adelaide. The front has slowed dramatically. Some areas have had 20mm today to the south. Interesting to see how this area of precipitation to the west develops could get a moderate fall from it. Soil is way above saturation point and walking past 1st creek today it was running quite high after that downpour after lunch and it had very high silt content. With further rain at the end of the week, flooding is looking likely as dam levels have risen significantly and the ground is saturated. This all depends on how strong the end of the week system ends up being of course. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Snow Pics: Taralga 27/8 Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:20:32 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2001 08:20:33.0186 (UTC) FILETIME=[4CFF0020:01C13451] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Andrew

Thanks for the pictures. I was in transit along the Hume around the time your photos were taken, and while Sutton Forest, where I was stopped for about 2 hours, had about 10 cms in that time, I can see why the hills to the north west of Goulburn appeared blanketed and caked in a much thicker layer of the white stuff.

Michael



 

>From: "islesit"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Snow Pics: Taralga 27/8
>Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 15:00:59 +1000
>
>Dear Andrew,
>
>Thanks for the pics. Im envious. Took the kids to see the snow on the
>northern tablelands and got a nice drive in the warm winter sun(inside the
>car)/ with cold wind and icy temps outside. The snow arrived about 5 hours
>later.
>
>Thanks for taking effort to put them on the net.
>
>Best wishes
>
>Ian Isles
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Andrew Miskelly
>Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2001 5:44 PM
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: aus-wx: Snow Pics: Taralga 27/8
>
>Hi all,
>
>I have put a page up with 12 scanned pictures from the snowfalls around
>Taralga last week, taken by my dad Paul. It's at
>http://members.ozemail.com.au/~amiskelly/snow/270801.html
>
>Enjoy.
>
>Andrew.
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X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: snow, Blue Mountains - a tale from long ago. Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:30:56 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2001 08:30:56.0980 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0CE6940:01C13452] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Interesting tale Peter and well told.  I recall seeing the forecast for snow (on the previous Friday, the 24th) for later Sunday, early Monday for Goulburn and half thinking about chucking the chains in the boot, knowing I'd be travelling back from Sydney to Canberra in the early hours of Monday.  If I had, I wonder whether the police would have let someone travel on the Hume with chains, or whether their over cautious attitude or concern about chains damaging the road would have prevented me utilising the chains.



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From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: New radars (BoM 256km range radars) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 18:29:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The Yarrawonga (NE Victoria) radar was started today. Well, the un-veiling of the plaque anyway. Made me laugh at the local news report that said that our area can now be watched much better for severe weather and will help monitor flooding. Not sure how that will work........... :-)) Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Quinn" To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 3:41 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: New radars (BoM 256km range radars) > Hi all > > The BoM now also quite a few more radars online - Syndey now has 3 (yes > THREE), with Kurnell and Sydney Airport added and Darwin, Cairns, > Townsville, Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth all have the airport radars > online. > > It looks like these are only available through the registered users radar - > i imagine they'll be added to the ASWA site ASAP > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurier Williams" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 11:37 AM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: BoM 256km range radars > > > > Robert, they're working fine for me now at 11.36am EST using Netscape > 4.76. > > > > Laurier > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Robert Goler > > > Sent: Monday, 03 September, 2001 10:52 AM > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Subject: aus-wx: BoM 256km range radars > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > Just looking at the BoM radar page, there now exists the option of 256km > > > radar images in addition to the 128km range images. > > > http://mirror.bom.gov.au/weather/radar/ > > > > > > However, clicking on these links doesn't bring up anything, but if you > > > have a registered BoM account, then the images work fine. > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Robert A. Goler > > > > > > School of Mathematical Sciences > > > Monash University > > > Clayton, Vic 3800 > > > Australia > > > > > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > > > email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > > > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > > > > > -- > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: Record cold nights across northern WA, NT, Qld Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 19:40:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I don't think I've seen comment on the list about the exceptionally cold nights that have been occurring across northern Australia. Derby AP broke its admittedly short 14 year record September minimum of 12.4 Saturday morning with a reading of 11.7, but then broke it again Sunday morning with a reading of 9.1 -- pretty cold for a coastal location 17 degrees from the equator. More significantly, Port Hedland AP broke a 53 year record of 8.4 with a 7.7 reading Saturday morning, while Marble Bar broke a 44 year record reading of 8.3 with a 7.3 on Sunday morning. Mt Isa AP may have had a record low September minimum Sunday morning with a (rounded) 1 degree. The record is 1.1. Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [139.134.126.198] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Rain making.... Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 22:07:39 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2001 12:07:39.0854 (UTC) FILETIME=[071F86E0:01C13471] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, Found this on the New Scientist page: http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991219 Food for thought or something just to chew over... Cheers, Kevin from Wycheproof. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain making.... Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 22:22:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Kevin - interesting.... I then followed a link to this article - which would definitely not be appreciated by subscribers to this list..... http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991101 Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Phyland To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Monday, 3 September 2001 22:15 Subject: aus-wx: Rain making.... >Hi every1, > >Found this on the New Scientist page: > >http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991219 > >Food for thought or something just to chew over... > >Cheers, >Kevin from Wycheproof. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain making.... Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 22:44:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Patrick, all I overheard a conversation either on radio or on TV a little while ago on this subject - in summary a scientist was arguing that it could do more harm than good, that it would upset whatever 'balance' the weather has ie. if you use this powder to weaken or kill a Tropical Cyclone in one area, it could result in a massive build up of energy and make it worse for another area. Personally i think we should just take what mother nature gives us, if we start trying to control things the outcome could be even worse than what we started with! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:22 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain making.... > Thanks Kevin - interesting.... > > I then followed a link to this article - which would definitely not be > appreciated by subscribers to this list..... > > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991101 > > Patrick > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Phyland > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Monday, 3 September 2001 22:15 > Subject: aus-wx: Rain making.... > > > >Hi every1, > > > >Found this on the New Scientist page: > > > >http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991219 > > > >Food for thought or something just to chew over... > > > >Cheers, > >Kevin from Wycheproof. > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew" To: Subject: aus-wx: Thunder Down Under 2000 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 22:43:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2001 12:47:00.0526 (UTC) FILETIME=[86317CE0:01C13476] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Everyone,
 
Well time (and motivation) has finally allowed me to get back into writing the reports on Thunder Down Under 2000 and for those of you who don't already know that is what some of us term the 2-3 week chase undertaken by Aussie chasers during late spring/early summer which usually covers the three eastern states and about 5000km per week.  Anyway - Day 5 of my chase can now be read about and pics seen at this address.........
 
 
Special thanks to Jane for putting that up for me. :-)
 
Regards
 
Andrew McDonald
ASWA - VIC
 
(Macca-wx - MSC)
From: " Craig Arthur" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Massive storm at Mt Baw Baw :-) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 21:06:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Also noticed that the temp. readings went out at the time of the "storm", and that the previous 10 minute rainfall totals were in the range of 400mm!! Craig -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Blair Trewin Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 14:38 To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Massive storm at Mt Baw Baw :-) If you believe the AWS data, there must have been a massive storm over Mt. Baw Baw this morning, with gusts to 69 knots and 193mm of rain falling in the hour between 0630 and 0730. Much as it may be nice to fantasise about activity of such magnitude, I think it reasonable to assume that the aforementioned numebrs are the result of a dodgy AWS. (Baw Baw is notorious for bad rainfall data - typically generating spurious rainfall obs from melting snow a couple of days after a cold outbreak - but I suspect this one might have other problems). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: " Craig Arthur" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 21:05:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, A bit late I know, but I was up near Wyong on Saturday afternoon for a planning weekend, along with Matt Piper. We were watching this storm, but didn't really think much of it. At about 5:15pm it was passing about 10 km south of us. The base was elevated (but not a high storm), and had some small inflow bands, outflow was wrapping around and even some noticeable banding. There was quite a bit of scud around also, but no lowerings (having limited experience in identifying cloud features, I would have to pass to Matt for a better description here). Overall the storm appeared multicellular, but the last cell must really have taken off, because when we were looking at it, there was very little precip. visible. Hopefully a sign of things to come this spring...BRING IT ON! Craig Craig Arthur Assistant Meteorologist The Weather Company carthur at theweather.com.au www.theweather.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2001 18:33 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast Rune, Wyong did/is getting smashed...with hail. Just been talking to someone whose friend lives there and his car has been smashed by hail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rune Peitersen" To: Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 5:49 PM Subject: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast > Currently watching an absolute beast of a storm to our northeast, > nearing Gosford/Wyong, never seen updraughts shoot up so fast, about 40 > pixels of red on the radar, looks awesome in the setting sunlight, its quite > fast moving with overshoots galore at times shooting up way above the anvil > line, Wyong is going to get SMASHED!!!!,,, > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: RE: aus-wx: IMAGES/REPORT: last nights storms Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 16:33:57 +1000 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: aus-wx: IMAGES/REPORT: last nights storms Thread-Index: AcEzVudeHQNAa1VFQx+xcIGnymQv9AA6tHsQ From: "Allison Cunnington" To: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id CAA04915 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all This is my first posting to this list, and I'm afraid I am a bit of a beginner at all this and do not know all the technical terms (yet!) Looking out my window from work (in Kyabram) is an awesome sight at the moment the clouds are amazing. It was a magnificent weekend for storms with Echuca coping a beautiful, but brief, storm around 6pm Saturday night, with quite a bit of thunder and lighting to make it all the more interesting for me! Just wished I had my camera right now and was outside and not at work! Allison -----Original Message----- From: Steve Baynham [mailto:bayns at broad.net.au] Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2001 12:12 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: IMAGES/REPORT: last nights storms hi everyone, glorious day here on the gold coast after a couple of storms brushed passed. they looked very intense on radar but both trackers did not pick up the lightning that was going off almost every second at times. anyway heres my stills the first 2 are night vision (0 lux) the last one listed is the best http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090101.jpg http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090102.jpg http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090103.jpg http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090104.jpg http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090105.jpg http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090106.jpg ben typed up this brief report this morning http://www.bsch.au.com/reports/ cyas Steve Baynham icq : 26863574 http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au Brisbane Storm Chasers http://www.bsch.au.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ###################################################################### Attention: This e-mail message is privileged and confidential. 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To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 From: "David Carroll" Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 17:21:01 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Domino/Advance(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/09/2001 05:20:56 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all.. This is all so true.. I can remember back in 1998 when Bathurst had Floods, snow and a total building collapse all in the matter of days. Police, SES and all other emerg crew were stretched to the limits. Crews were working around the clock to cope with three major emerg. This as you could imagine made everyone very stressed, let alone having to deal with the many idiots on the road during the road closures around Bx heading to Lithgow.. The amount of infringements made to drivers who drove past the barriers were astonishing. All number plates were recorded and noted if driver could not be stopped. These were also reported to all insurance companies. SES were also taking licence plates from cars who would abuse staff for not allowing them to pass. I would have to admit was quite amusing hearing these cops doing their job and giving it to these people who, i would say ended up in the gutter anyway, cause they wouldnt drive to conditions. Then when reporting the accident found they had no claim.. So be careful around Bx in future as some just dont care what excuse you may have to get through the road closure. Dave Bathurst ----- Forwarded by David Carroll/Advance on 03/09/2001 17:01 ----- Peter Creswick To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sent by: cc: aussie-weather-approval at wor Subject: Re: aus-wx: snow, Blue Mountains - a tale from long ago. ld.std.com 03/09/2001 16:26 Please respond to aussie-weather Very true re the police attitude and their propensity to close the roads, and the fact that you then get stranded or face a very long detour. Snow chasing in the Blue Mountains is likely to lead to some frustrations that could out weigh the fun. A personal experience to illustrate. The last time I was up there, and there was any snow (late 70's from memory) the police closed the GWH at about 2am at Penrith to stop people going up at all. I found out later that the only people that they let through after that were residents up to Blackheath, but not further. I later deduced that I had passed Blackheath apparently just before the police came out to close the road with barriers there. I knew nothing of what was happening at the time of course. There was quite a bit of snow on the roads and it was fun slow driving through it (plenty of rally experience, no problem, and I had chains in the boot anyway. We used to go skiing so often I eventually bought a set, it was cheaper than hiring them every other week). In any case, by the time I got to Mount Lambie, I was a bit tired and figured a pie and pees and a coffee would go down well. So I pulled in, noting with some surprise that the place was chokers with trucks. Seemed a bit odd, even for the conditions. Truckies are supposed to be made of sterner stuff thought I ! Anyway, in finding a place to park, it dawned on me, that come to think of it, I hadn't seen any other traffic, going either way for "ages". Very odd. So, get out, enter the cafe. Bloody cold, howl of a wind. Time, about 3:30 / 4am, memory is a bit dim on that. I get inside, and walk up to the counter. Girl looks up, says nothing, looks down again. So, since she has seen me, I order the aforementioned, whilst looking around, during which time I notice two rather beefy guys sitting at a table down the end, apparently playing chess, and assume they are a couple of truckies. The girl (mid twenties, nothing special, had been sitting down reading a mag), gets herself up in a manner suggestive of not particularly being pleased at having been disturbed, and rather off handedly says "what'satluv....." So, with the completion of the "luv...." I turn to her and says, "I would like a pie and pees, no sauce, and a coffee, white, no sugar, thanks,.... luv" (with only a very slightly amusing inflection, if you know what I mean - try your luck - any port in a "storm" type thing !). Suddenly,..... one of the gorillas at the table turns around, and rather "arrogantly" ... "demands" to know who the hell I am !! Thinking it might be the young lady's other half, I instantly decide discretion may be the better part of valour. Upon turning to face him, I notice his parker has splayed open as he has half turned around in the chair, and his gun is in full view. Whereupon he stood up and came over to me, and asked where I had come from (they had seen the lights when I drove in). I explained up from Sydney. He said that was crap, the road was closed. I said it wasn't, after all, I was here. A short silence ensued. The other officer got up and came over, and wanted a report of the road, all the way up. So, after pie pees and coffee were provided, I was "invited" back to their table for a "quiet chat" (read interrogation, well, so it seemed). They turned out to be quite reasonable. They were Bathurst cops and had driven up earlier in a 4 WD Toyota Land cruiser, and had no idea what the conditions were to the east of Mount Lambie. The discussion was cordial, and a complete road report was made. Then they wanted to know where I was going, which was Bathurst. So, deciding that I was able to continue, they told me to take it easy, and report in at Bathurst Police Station when I got there. This allowed them to sit tight, nice and warm !! They didn't need to go on to (Katoomba I think it was) nor patrol back towards Bathurst, since I had effectively done it (the eastern part) and was just about to do the western part for them ! To sweeten the deal, they even paid for my second coffee ! Find a cop that will offer you a deal like that today ! Anyway, the trip west was a no brainer. I considered at the time that they were being overly cautious in closing the road, but I was a lot younger then too. The road is better and the cars are better and easier to drive - under normal conditions that is. Over those last 25 odd years though, public driving skills have got worse not better. Couple that with the legal mine fields today of "duty of care" and all that, it is hardly surprising that they close roads these days at the drop of a single flake. So, snow chasing could get interesting, or frustrating, depending more on the attitude of the local police, than the weather. PeterC Laurier Williams wrote: > > Definitely the most gung-ho Bureau forecast I've seen in a while (4.30pm > issue, below), with snow to 800m for the Central and Northern NSW > Tablelands, and in the forecasts for Orange, Bathurst and Katoomba. The key > will be in the meaning of "snow later". Going on the latest AVN, which seems > to ride a nice line between the EC and GASP/LAPS/mesoLAPS, snow should start > falling in the Blue Mountains early Sunday evening. AVN has the 850 temp > dipping below zero around 9pm and staying there until late Monday morning, > with the wind staying WNW after the passage of the first trough, then > turning SW later Monday afternoon. AVN also forecasts up to 10mm precip > during this time, which is consistent with a wind blowing from N of W, so at > long last we may get a combination of cold + precip. Every other cold spell > here (Blackheath) so far this year has been devoid of the necessary > moisture, with southwesterlies being bled of any moisture as they track over > the high country around Oberon. > > However, for the chasers, the timing will be critical as at present snow > doesn't look like falling until after dark. Just to add to the cautions in > Matthew's note, the word snow in the forecast for Katoomba should ensure > that every man and his child-who-has-never-seen-snow will be up here > tomorrow. Also a reminder that the police up here have become very > protective in recent years, and close off the Great Western Highway and > Bells Line of Road at the first hint that lowest-skilled drivers may not be > able to cope with the conditions, and when that happens the only ways back > to Sydney are via Goulburn or the Hunter. > > I'll keep the list informed on conditions at Blackheath, and anyone chasing > who wants an update can phone or SMS me on 0428 877 276. Here's hoping this > will be a good one! > > Laurier > > CENTRAL TABLELANDS > Sunday > A sheep graziers warning for cold, wet and windy weather. > Rain or showers, falling as snow above 800 m later. Chance of thunderstorms. > Cold. Fresh to strong northwest winds ahead of a squally westerly change in > the > afternoon. > > Orange for Sunday > Rain tending to snow later. Cold. Fresh to strong northwest winds turning > colder > squally westerly in the afternoon. > Min:2 Max:11 > Bathurst :Rain/snow later. Windy. > Min:3 Max:12 > Katoomba :Rain/ snow later. Windy. > Min:5 Max:11 > > NORTHERN TABLELANDS > Sunday > Sheep Graziers Warning for cold, wet and windy weather. > Rain or showers developing with snow above 800 m Sunday night. Chance of > thunderstorms. Cool to cold. Strengthening northwest winds ahead of a > strong westerly change in the afternoon. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Smith > > Sent: Saturday, 25 August, 2001 1:38 PM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: aus-wx: snow > > > > > > > > For those snow chasing tomorrow on the blue mountians, dont forget to > > take into account it will be a sunday arvo/evening, and the traffic > > comming back to sydney will be shocking. Given the wet/snowy conditions > > it will make things worse so be prepared :) > > > > Tim would you be interested in going up the barrington tops tomorrow > > arvo if it still looks good? > > > > Matt Smith > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. 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Your contributions as others' are welcome and valued. It all compiles to a worthwhile database of severe weather. Any other lurkers, don't be afraid to say hi and put in some contributions. The first post is always the hardest but never worry. Thanks for the post. Jimmy Deguara At 04:33 PM 9/3/01 +1000, you wrote: >Hi all > >This is my first posting to this list, and I'm afraid I am a bit of a >beginner at all this and do not know all the technical terms (yet!) >Looking out my window from work (in Kyabram) is an awesome sight at the >moment the clouds are amazing. It was a magnificent weekend for storms >with Echuca coping a beautiful, but brief, storm around 6pm Saturday >night, with quite a bit of thunder and lighting to make it all the more >interesting for me! > >Just wished I had my camera right now and was outside and not at work! > > >Allison > >-----Original Message----- >From: Steve Baynham [mailto:bayns at broad.net.au] >Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2001 12:12 >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: IMAGES/REPORT: last nights storms > > >hi everyone, >glorious day here on the gold coast after a couple of storms brushed >passed. they looked very intense on radar but both trackers did not pick >up >the lightning that was going off almost every second at times. >anyway heres my stills >the first 2 are night vision (0 lux) >the last one listed is the best > >http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090101.jpg >http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090102.jpg >http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090103.jpg >http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090104.jpg >http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090105.jpg >http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090106.jpg > >ben typed up this brief report this morning >http://www.bsch.au.com/reports/ > >cyas > > > > >Steve Baynham >icq : 26863574 >http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany > >Australian Severe Weather Association >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >Brisbane Storm Chasers >http://www.bsch.au.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >###################################################################### >Attention: >This e-mail message is privileged and confidential. If you are not the >intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. >Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. > >This e-mail has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal >www.marshalsoftware.com >###################################################################### > >##################################################################################### >This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared >by MailMarshal >##################################################################################### > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p197-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.140.197] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 23:28:28 +1000 From: Peter Creswick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: snow, Blue Mountains - a tale from long ago. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Chains on the Hume - north or south of Goulburn - they would not even dream of it - not a chance mate ! michael king wrote: > Interesting tale Peter and well told. I recall seeing the forecast for > snow (on the previous Friday, the 24th) for later Sunday, early Monday > for Goulburn and half thinking about chucking the chains in the boot, > knowing I'd be travelling back from Sydney to Canberra in the early > hours of Monday. If I had, I wonder whether the police would have let > someone travel on the Hume with chains, or whether their over cautious > attitude or concern about chains damaging the road would have prevented > me utilising the chains. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p197-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.140.197] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 23:49:25 +1000 From: Peter Creswick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain making.... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Naaaa....... Why use all those expensive and environmentally unfriendly chemicals, silver iodide etc ? I much prefer my patented ecologically friendly dirty rain come revigitation method, which, simply put, involves taking one C-130 Hercules transport, loading it up with 19 tons of good old QLD channel country bulldust (finest quality - 40 / 60 sieve only mind) and 1 ton of mixed seeds of your choice. Upon radar verification of a suitable precipitable water profile over the desired target area fly said aircraft at the 266K isotherm and release 5 tons of dust in each of 4 consequitive turns at rate two, fly one more turn (turn 5) to allow nucleation and condensation to commence, followed by the last turn (turn 6) depositing the remaining 4 tons of dust and 1 ton of seed in the now building tower, then vacate the area asap (so as not to clog the engines with any dust or seed coming back up in the humungous updraft created by all that condensation), release a cheap disposable aerosonde glider out the back for good measure, then stand off to the side and take many miles of video, and then watch it all blow away across the Tasman to NZ ! Kevin Phyland wrote: > Hi every1, > > Found this on the New Scientist page: > > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991219 > > Food for thought or something just to chew over... > > Cheers, > Kevin from Wycheproof. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES/REPORT: last nights storms Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 06:58:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Allison. Good to see I'm not alone in this part of the woods anymore :-) I was coming home from Melbourne and was around Euroa about that time and saw quite a few flashes over in that direction and there was some very heavy rain to the East of Euroa and we drove just along the edge of it as it passed over. I only got 5mm on Saturday but people just over the border got between 15 and 20. Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allison Cunnington" To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 4:33 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: IMAGES/REPORT: last nights storms > Hi all > > This is my first posting to this list, and I'm afraid I am a bit of a > beginner at all this and do not know all the technical terms (yet!) > Looking out my window from work (in Kyabram) is an awesome sight at the > moment the clouds are amazing. It was a magnificent weekend for storms > with Echuca coping a beautiful, but brief, storm around 6pm Saturday > night, with quite a bit of thunder and lighting to make it all the more > interesting for me! > > Just wished I had my camera right now and was outside and not at work! > > > Allison > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Baynham [mailto:bayns at broad.net.au] > Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2001 12:12 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: IMAGES/REPORT: last nights storms > > > hi everyone, > glorious day here on the gold coast after a couple of storms brushed > passed. they looked very intense on radar but both trackers did not pick > up > the lightning that was going off almost every second at times. > anyway heres my stills > the first 2 are night vision (0 lux) > the last one listed is the best > > http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090101.jpg > http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090102.jpg > http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090103.jpg > http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090104.jpg > http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090105.jpg > http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090106.jpg > > ben typed up this brief report this morning > http://www.bsch.au.com/reports/ > > cyas > > > > > Steve Baynham > icq : 26863574 > http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany > > Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > Brisbane Storm Chasers > http://www.bsch.au.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > ###################################################################### > Attention: > This e-mail message is privileged and confidential. If you are not the > intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. > Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. > > This e-mail has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal > www.marshalsoftware.com > ###################################################################### > > ############################################################################ ######### > This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal > ############################################################################ ######### > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: " Craig Arthur" To: Subject: aus-wx: May 29 photo Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 08:44:04 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Found this on another mailing list... www.stormguy.com Craig Arthur Assistant Meteorologist The Weather Company Mobile: 0409 779 478 Email: carthur at theweather.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record rain in SA, Qld; record cold in WA, NT To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:10:34 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Just checked the Wilpena rainfall obs - they got 125mm in the 24 hours to 0900 Saturday, and another 39 to 0900 Sunday, an event total of 164. (The bulletin issued on the Bureau web site on Monday gave a three-day total of 125, which is incorrect). The 125mm daily total is the second highest on record there for any month (after 214mm on 14 March 1989 - a day when many record rainfalls were set in the area, including SA's three highest daily totals) in just under 40 years of record. It easily breaks the existing September record of 60.4mm, set in 1992. Interesting that, at a station which has an average of 0.5 days per year with 50mm+, there have been five such events since the beginning of 2000. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Winter Temps To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:41:56 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > The seasonal mean (combination of max + min) was running equal to > record levels at Melbourne with 2 days to go. Sydney, as Don > mentioned, was 2nd to 1988. Melbourne ended up equalling its seasonal mean record. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Winter Temps To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:41:08 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Sydney had its 2nd hottest Winter ever - jusdt behind 1988 but > apparently Melbourne and Perth and possibly other were well up there.... > so takne as a whole, the country could have had its warmest ever Winter > season. > Any comments, Blari or Laurie ? > Don W Noticed an 'Australian' article which implied that Australia had its warmest winter on record - reading between the lines this seemed to be either a Sydney figure (the figure quoted of 18.8 bears a striking resemblance to the Sydney winter mean max) or some kind of capital-city average. Don - you were quoted elsewhere in the article (saying essentially what you've said above) - do you have any idea what the source of their claim is? (As I posted elsewhere, the all-Australian mean max anomaly was the fifth-highest since 1950, whilst minima came in slightly below normal). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 12:47:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A further comment from us about Saturday's storm. We were at Palm Beach also at about 5.15pm. We were sitting in the car hoping for a glimpse of the whale and calf that have been around the beaches when it started to rain heavier and we were noticing lightning behind us towards Patonga. One bolt of lightning came from that direction and travelled through the air in front of the car about 1 metre above the ground. We were all astounded as we have never seen lightning do that before. It made us all think twice about our habit of standing on the headlands watching storms approach. Judy Mayo ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Arthur To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 9:05 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast > Hi all, > > A bit late I know, but I was up near Wyong on Saturday afternoon for a > planning weekend, along with Matt Piper. We were watching this storm, but > didn't really think much of it. At about 5:15pm it was passing about 10 km > south of us. The base was elevated (but not a high storm), and had some > small inflow bands, outflow was wrapping around and even some noticeable > banding. There was quite a bit of scud around also, but no lowerings > (having limited experience in identifying cloud features, I would have to > pass to Matt for a better description here). Overall the storm appeared > multicellular, but the last cell must really have taken off, because when > we were looking at it, there was very little precip. visible. > > Hopefully a sign of things to come this spring...BRING IT ON! > > Craig > > Craig Arthur > Assistant Meteorologist > The Weather Company > carthur at theweather.com.au > www.theweather.com.au > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Carolyn > Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2001 18:33 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast > > > Rune, > Wyong did/is getting smashed...with hail. Just been talking to someone > whose friend lives there and his car has been smashed by hail. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rune Peitersen" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 5:49 PM > Subject: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast > > > > Currently watching an absolute beast of a storm to our northeast, > > nearing Gosford/Wyong, never seen updraughts shoot up so fast, about 40 > > pixels of red on the radar, looks awesome in the setting sunlight, its > quite > > fast moving with overshoots galore at times shooting up way above the > anvil > > line, Wyong is going to get SMASHED!!!!,,, > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: Lightning - Outer West To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 From: "David Carroll" Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 14:51:28 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Domino/Advance(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 04/09/2001 02:51:28 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI all.. Lightning appearing out west of NSW, also around West Wyalong area.. Radar showing rain Wagga area. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: aus-wx: Storm approching... or is it??? Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:03:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Just seen Lightning tracker, and the Wagga 256km BoM radar loop and it shows a little bit of lightning and a few rain (getting in to yellow in spots) bands heading straight for canberra, how ever it looks like it will dissapate before it reaches canberra..., But in the forecast it says there is a chance of a T'Storm so perhaps it will "regenerate" over the brindabellas, which i believes happens often.
ATM 8/8 cloud and sun just set, so seeing features is hard, but there appears to be some very dark bases, but no rain visable...
 
Simon Angell
Canberra ACT
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 19:01:42 +1000 From: Chas & Helen Osborn Organization: UniDial Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List Subject: aus-wx: Pre frontal trough Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Everyone Yesterday we had a pre frontal trough. It produced a few decent Cb to our south and came through in a line aligned NW/SE. The front was two hours behind. What is the mechanics of the pre frontal trough? Chas Strahan Tasmania +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: aus-wx: Can this be right? Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:06:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Large areas of >100mm all over eastern Victoria?
From: "The Weather Co." To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Can this be right? Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:23:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Looks to be a problem with the radar. The readings are only outside the 50km radius, and there are no reports of heavy rain or storms in eastern VIC. Craig Arthur ____________________ The Weather Company Level 2, 7 West Street North Sydney 2060 Phone: (02) 9955 7704 Fax: (02) 9955 1536 http://www.theweather.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barnett To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:06 PM Subject: aus-wx: Can this be right? Large areas of >100mm all over eastern Victoria? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Matthew Piper" To: Subject: aus-wx: Observations of the 1st September Wyong Storm Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:38:00 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, As Craig has mentioned I too viewed this storm. It was truly an absolutely awesome sight and I am kicking myself I didnt take a camera along with me to the resort. I first heard static on the radio around 4 pm and thought to myself where in the earth is this storm as I couldnt see a thing through all the dense forest we where in. At around 4:45pm or so I began to hear thunder and it was becoming rather more frequent and louder as time went on. Around 5:15pm we headed out to our meeting venue and on the way was greeted by a jaw dropping sight. Right in front of me was a powerful updraught and right underneath it a definate wall cloud. A short inflow band was clearly visible feeding into the updraught from the east and laminar bandings were also evident at the top of the wall cloud. A small number of lightning strikes occurred from the anvil and precipitation region of the storm during the time I had the best view of it. I didnt observe any rotation but there was numerous amounts of scud hanging beneath the wall cloud which at one stage took on a tornado like appearance. IMO this storm looked very much like an LP supercell as the whole structure of the storm was laid bare for all to see. I would be very interested in seeing the radar for this storm as I had no net access at the time. If anyone has radar I would be most grateful if they could sent it to me. Regards, Matthew Piper ----- Original Message ----- From: " Craig Arthur" To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 9:05 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast > Hi all, > > A bit late I know, but I was up near Wyong on Saturday afternoon for a > planning weekend, along with Matt Piper. We were watching this storm, but > didn't really think much of it. At about 5:15pm it was passing about 10 km > south of us. The base was elevated (but not a high storm), and had some > small inflow bands, outflow was wrapping around and even some noticeable > banding. There was quite a bit of scud around also, but no lowerings > (having limited experience in identifying cloud features, I would have to > pass to Matt for a better description here). Overall the storm appeared > multicellular, but the last cell must really have taken off, because when > we were looking at it, there was very little precip. visible. > > Hopefully a sign of things to come this spring...BRING IT ON! > > Craig > > Craig Arthur > Assistant Meteorologist > The Weather Company > carthur at theweather.com.au > www.theweather.com.au > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Carolyn > Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2001 18:33 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast > > > Rune, > Wyong did/is getting smashed...with hail. Just been talking to someone > whose friend lives there and his car has been smashed by hail. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rune Peitersen" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 5:49 PM > Subject: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast > > > > Currently watching an absolute beast of a storm to our northeast, > > nearing Gosford/Wyong, never seen updraughts shoot up so fast, about 40 > > pixels of red on the radar, looks awesome in the setting sunlight, its > quite > > fast moving with overshoots galore at times shooting up way above the > anvil > > line, Wyong is going to get SMASHED!!!!,,, > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunder Down Under 2000 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:48:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
About time too !!! As I have enjoyed your instalments  to date, plus the lightning stills from the Digital Video.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew
Sent: Monday, 3 September 2001 22:43
Subject: aus-wx: Thunder Down Under 2000

Hi Everyone,
 
Well time (and motivation) has finally allowed me to get back into writing the reports on Thunder Down Under 2000 and for those of you who don't already know that is what some of us term the 2-3 week chase undertaken by Aussie chasers during late spring/early summer which usually covers the three eastern states and about 5000km per week.  Anyway - Day 5 of my chase can now be read about and pics seen at this address.........
 
 
Special thanks to Jane for putting that up for me. :-)
 
Regards
 
Andrew McDonald
ASWA - VIC
 
(Macca-wx - MSC)
X-Originating-IP: [165.228.129.11] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Grafton / Brisbane Radar from storms on Saturday Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 11:03:49 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2001 11:03:49.0787 (UTC) FILETIME=[46A36EB0:01C13531] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Hope this request isn't too late, but did anyone manage to save some radar loops of the line of storms that formed on Saturday night (7 -9pm??) in NE NSW / SE QLD? You could see the top of the storm line at the bottom of the Brissie radar and the rest of it on the Grafton radar. seeya, David Sercombe, in an overcast, but dry Coffs Harbour. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning - Outer West Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:26:44 +1000 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: aus-wx: Lightning - Outer West Thread-Index: AcE1AhGdlCyxFoQCRlamXkjMevVnpgAAA+yg From: "Allison Cunnington" To: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id BAA13041 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com about to rain in Kyabram (in Vic) too. -----Original Message----- From: David Carroll [mailto:David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 2:51 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Lightning - Outer West HI all.. 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I am glad you saw a wall cloud and also think the storm was an LP supercell, the thought of it being of the LP variety had crossed my mind.. Matt Smith Matthew Piper wrote: > Hi everyone, > > As Craig has mentioned I too viewed this storm. It was truly an absolutely > awesome sight and I am kicking myself I didnt take a camera along with me to > the resort. I first heard static on the radio around 4 pm and thought to > myself where in the earth is this storm as I couldnt see a thing through all > the dense forest we where in. At around 4:45pm or so I began to hear thunder > and it was becoming rather more frequent and louder as time went on. Around > 5:15pm we headed out to our meeting venue and on the way was greeted by a > jaw dropping sight. Right in front of me was a powerful updraught and right > underneath it a definate wall cloud. A short inflow band was clearly visible > feeding into the updraught from the east and laminar bandings were also > evident at the top of the wall cloud. A small number of lightning strikes > occurred from the anvil and precipitation region of the storm during the > time I had the best view of it. I didnt observe any rotation but there was > numerous amounts of scud hanging beneath the wall cloud which at one stage > took on a tornado like appearance. IMO this storm looked very much like an > LP supercell as the whole structure of the storm was laid bare for all to > see. I would be very interested in seeing the radar for this storm as I had > no net access at the time. If anyone has radar I would be most grateful if > they could sent it to me. > > Regards, > > Matthew Piper > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Craig Arthur" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 9:05 PM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast > > > Hi all, > > > > A bit late I know, but I was up near Wyong on Saturday afternoon for a > > planning weekend, along with Matt Piper. We were watching this storm, but > > didn't really think much of it. At about 5:15pm it was passing about 10 km > > south of us. The base was elevated (but not a high storm), and had some > > small inflow bands, outflow was wrapping around and even some noticeable > > banding. There was quite a bit of scud around also, but no lowerings > > (having limited experience in identifying cloud features, I would have to > > pass to Matt for a better description here). Overall the storm appeared > > multicellular, but the last cell must really have taken off, because when > > we were looking at it, there was very little precip. visible. > > > > Hopefully a sign of things to come this spring...BRING IT ON! > > > > Craig > > > > Craig Arthur > > Assistant Meteorologist > > The Weather Company > > carthur at theweather.com.au > > www.theweather.com.au > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Carolyn > > Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2001 18:33 > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast > > > > > > Rune, > > Wyong did/is getting smashed...with hail. Just been talking to someone > > whose friend lives there and his car has been smashed by hail. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rune Peitersen" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 5:49 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: massive TSTORM, central coast > > > > > > > Currently watching an absolute beast of a storm to our northeast, > > > nearing Gosford/Wyong, never seen updraughts shoot up so fast, about 40 > > > pixels of red on the radar, looks awesome in the setting sunlight, its > > quite > > > fast moving with overshoots galore at times shooting up way above the > > anvil > > > line, Wyong is going to get SMASHED!!!!,,, > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Konnecke" To: Subject: aus-wx: LIGHTNING SPOTTED - BEACON HILL Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 22:21:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Theres a fair bit of lightning in the SE sky tonight visible from Beacon Hill (Sydney).
It looks much closer than the radar and lightning tracker suggests (100klms). It's lighting up a
nice formation from what I can see. Sorry for no technical description of this. I'm still very new to this
stuff, although I have been a passive watcher for years.
 
Pete
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 00:17:52 +1000 From: David Carroll X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Grafton / Brisbane Radar from storms on Saturday Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Anyone who would like copies of these radar images and lightning from storms on 01.9, pls email me. Thanks Dave David Sercombe wrote: > > Hi all, > > Hope this request isn't too late, but did anyone manage to save some radar > loops of the line of storms that formed on Saturday night (7 -9pm??) in NE > NSW / SE QLD? > > You could see the top of the storm line at the bottom of the Brissie radar > and the rest of it on the Grafton radar. > > seeya, > > David Sercombe, in an overcast, but dry Coffs Harbour. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Observations of the 1st September Wyong Storm Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:35:57 +1000 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We've got them archived here Matt. Doh! Mark Hardy The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. http://www.theweather.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Piper Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 8:38 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Observations of the 1st September Wyong Storm Hi everyone, As Craig has mentioned I too viewed this storm. It was truly an absolutely awesome sight and I am kicking myself I didnt take a camera along with me to the resort. I first heard static on the radio around 4 pm and thought to myself where in the earth is this storm as I couldnt see a thing through all the dense forest we where in. At around 4:45pm or so I began to hear thunder and it was becoming rather more frequent and louder as time went on. Around 5:15pm we headed out to our meeting venue and on the way was greeted by a jaw dropping sight. Right in front of me was a powerful updraught and right underneath it a definate wall cloud. A short inflow band was clearly visible feeding into the updraught from the east and laminar bandings were also evident at the top of the wall cloud. A small number of lightning strikes occurred from the anvil and precipitation region of the storm during the time I had the best view of it. I didnt observe any rotation but there was numerous amounts of scud hanging beneath the wall cloud which at one stage took on a tornado like appearance. IMO this storm looked very much like an LP supercell as the whole structure of the storm was laid bare for all to see. I would be very interested in seeing the radar for this storm as I had no net access at the time. If anyone has radar I would be most grateful if they could sent it to me. Regards, Matthew Piper +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 07:22:42 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: Grafton / Brisbane Radar from storms on Saturday Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com There's a loop in this report: http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2001/docs/200109-01.htm cheers, Michael At 11:03 AM 4/9/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Hi all, > >Hope this request isn't too late, but did anyone manage to save some radar >loops of the line of storms that formed on Saturday night (7 -9pm??) in NE >NSW / SE QLD? > >You could see the top of the storm line at the bottom of the Brissie radar >and the rest of it on the Grafton radar. > >seeya, > >David Sercombe, in an overcast, but dry Coffs Harbour. > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ============================================================= Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW http://www.lightningphotography.com/ ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ============================================================= +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: cordelia.flexi.net.au: Host racport47.flexi.net.au [203.37.233.63] claimed to be adamscomputer From: "Adam Cole" To: Subject: aus-wx: Possible Storms Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:28:05 +1000 Organization: Home X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day, Sky looking pretty good with nice Updrafts around. Forecast is Showers and possible thunderstorms in the South. BOM Warwick Shower ot T'Storm Temp here at the moment is 21.6C i spose the DP would be about 10 here atm. Not great, but still possible. Looking foward to the Weekend September 1 Warwick recieved 3 TS. 24mm all up, lightning visible from 6pm to 1200am and thunder heard from 6.15pm to 11pm. Most of the lightning was CC crawlers. A couple of lightning photos turned out but, missed 4 awesome CC wih CG strikes. One of the was 4 CG's linked by a CC and the CC branching out across the sky. MAybe what you'd call a good electical storm Reports of Hail up to golf ball size 13km north of Warwick, and 20km north at Deucher, 1/2 inch hail with a 3cm ground covering. Surprisingly (or typically for our local newspaper) the story just said power was disrupted due to Lightning and winds from a Storm. Didn't they see the STW crawl across the TV??? Ah well, was great fun and hoping for more storms with heaps of lightning Adam +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: bayns at mail.broad.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:21:12 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Steve Baynham Subject: aus-wx: IMAGES: todays storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hi guys, couple of minor storms passed over today. i missed the first one after lunch cos i was at work:( but got home in time to film the arse end of the storm and some of its lightning these were taking between 3:30 and 4 http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090501.jpg http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090502.jpg http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090503.jpg http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01090504.jpg may get some more later. keep an eye on the webcam!!! Steve Baynham icq : 26863574 http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au Brisbane Storm Chasers http://www.bsch.au.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 18:56:28 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: aus-wx: NSW North Coast storm movie Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I've uploaded a movie from my webcam today: http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2001/movies/20010905.mpg The 1.5mb MPG covers 6 hours of weather including the storms we had today. There have been reports of hail but none at my place. regards, Michael ============================================================= Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW http://www.lightningphotography.com/ ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ============================================================= +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: todays storms Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 19:47:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com film the arse end of the> storm > I'd be avoiding the rear flank downdraft of a storm with that feature. Michael +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [213.38.89.28] From: "John Roenfeldt" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW North Coast storm movie Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 09:33:09 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2001 09:33:09.0291 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6435FB0:01C135ED] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I must say Michael that movie is rather cool. You have an awesome view from your place. regards, John Roenfeldt >From: Michael Bath >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: NSW North Coast storm movie >Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 18:56:28 +1000 > >Hi all, > >I've uploaded a movie from my webcam today: > >http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2001/movies/20010905.mpg > >The 1.5mb MPG covers 6 hours of weather including the storms we had today. >There have been reports of hail but none at my place. > >regards, Michael > > > ============================================================= > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW http://www.lightningphotography.com/ > ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > ============================================================= > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW North Coast storm movie Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 19:46:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Michael, That is absolutley brilliant!!! - and it loaded in no time......I can see that we are all going to enjoy this season, wherever we are .....even those stuck in low-storm locations (which shall remain nameless ) Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- > Hi all, > > I've uploaded a movie from my webcam today: > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2001/movies/20010905.mpg > > The 1.5mb MPG covers 6 hours of weather including the storms we had today. > There have been reports of hail but none at my place. > > regards, Michael > > > ============================================================= > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW http://www.lightningphotography.com/ > ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > ============================================================= > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Another cyclonic weekend,yippee. Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 20:59:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2001 11:03:53.0252 (UTC) FILETIME=[731DE640:01C135FA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Some developments going on over the Australian broadscale today. The moisture plume lurking west and southwest of Indonesia (has been there on and off over most of the winter) is again on the move south-eastward and starting to interact with a developing mid latitude trough. The sub tropical jet is also strengthening over central Aus and a nice cold pool at 500hpa is moving north-eastward from south of WA. The tropical moisture plume is interesting as a similar incursion a few weeks ago brought record rain to the southwest of WA, although this plume is further east. All this adds up to a potentially interesting weekend so lets sit back and watch (with our fingers crossed). regards Clyve Herbert. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nicholas Sykes" To: Subject: aus-wx: SMS Contact List Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:44:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2001 11:43:36.0361 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF8F7990:01C135FF] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey all Just letting everyone know that 1rstwap has undergone a fairly major upgrade. Signed up members can now send sms's to anyone, including none members, works with every Australian phone network, messages are sent instantly, the message is encoded as your phone number so the person can simply reply to it, no limit on amount of messges able to be sent, using the client u can setup groups so u can send messages to multiple people, can send e-mails on non-wap phones, do i need to go on?? ohhh and it's free!!!!!!!!! This was a fantastic service that has got even better, go ahead and sign up. Below are the url's you need to know www.1rstwap.com the main company website http://www.1rstwap.com/partners/go.to/1rstwap sign up page and http://home.iprimus.com.au/nicksykes/smscontactindex.htm the SMS storm chaser contact list Nick Sykes +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p696-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.142.188] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:43:07 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Latest pics Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Finally I have been able to correct computer problems and put the latest pics online. Here they are for those who don't mind photographs. It include the Wyong photographs - you can almost climb the clouds they are so crisp - sorry I am getting carried away. It reminded me of the crispness of the US storms and some of storms we have had in the past here http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20010905.html ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Duncan & Mandy" To: "aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record rain in SA, Qld; record cold in WA, NT Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 19:19:28 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I happened to look at the Woomera radar on Friday night as a rain band was developing over Lake Torrens, and at that stage it looked pretty beefy, with large areas of pink. I mused that this would bring some heavy rainfall when it arrived at the Flinders, but nothing like the totals they received at Wilpena! My parents in-law deliver newspapers from Quorn to Leigh Creek, 250kms North of Quorn. My Father in law was stuck before a raging creek early Saturday Morning, so opted to head back, only to find that they were unable to cross a creek they had previously done so a few minutes earlier! This was at 6am Sat. Morn. He was only able to move on at about 3pm Sat Afternoon. That's a 9 hour wait! He had a few newspapers to read to pass the time though. The Flinders Ranges is a really beautiful place for hiking when the creeks are running, but not much good for driving. Wilpena and Hawker (nearby on the plains)have had some quite wet seasons recently, which is what the early settlers in the late 1800's discovered as well. They though it would be great country for wheat, until more 'normal' dry seasons arrived, leaving ruined homesteads evarywhere. Perhaps this is a repeat of those early 'good' seasons. That's my history bit for now. Warming up here in Alice Springs (at last), with many stunning sunsets and orange full moons (at the moment) due to the many bushfires burning around town. Cheers. Duncan Treloar Alice Springs +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: aus-wx: An unusual September NW cloudband To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 11:48:31 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Quite a nice northwest cloudband showing up at the moment, stretching all the way from a big flareup in the vicinity of Christmas Island (convection triggered by all the hot air in the vicinity?) to the main cloud area currently over SA. The radar is showing some precipitation crossing the Pilbara coast with this. Measurable rainfall in this region is very rare in September with monthly means near 1mm everywhere. At the moment the rain indicated on radar is near the coast in an unpopulated area between Port Hedland and Broome, and no station reported any measurable rain at 0900 (although Pardoo had a trace). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Craig Arthur" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest pics Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 04:58:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Those photos of the Wyong storm are awesome!! :D I think all of us TWC people (who were staring at the updraft base) would have been chasing that storm if we knew it looked like that! Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimmy Deguara To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: aus-wx: Latest pics > Hi all, > > Finally I have been able to correct computer problems and put the latest > pics online. Here they are for those who don't mind photographs. It include > the Wyong photographs - you can almost climb the clouds they are so crisp - > sorry I am getting carried away. It reminded me of the crispness of the US > storms and some of storms we have had in the past here > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20010905.html > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW North Coast storm movie Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 07:07:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great stuff! What's a storm???? Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:56 PM Subject: aus-wx: NSW North Coast storm movie > Hi all, > > I've uploaded a movie from my webcam today: > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2001/movies/20010905.mpg > > The 1.5mb MPG covers 6 hours of weather including the storms we had today. > There have been reports of hail but none at my place. > > regards, Michael > > > ============================================================= > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW http://www.lightningphotography.com/ > ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > ============================================================= > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dats Bikes" To: Subject: aus-wx: april weather Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 13:22:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Just wondering if you can help me. I'm organising a world record bicycle relay for April 2002. We want to ride anti clock wise basically on highway 1. How would the prevailing winds affect us that time of the year and what type of temperatures would we encounter both in the top end and across the bottom. For an exact route see www.bikerace.com.au 
 
Thanks
 
Dave Arnold
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 07:17:01 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest pics Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jimmy... Pgotograpg 7-10 - counting in horizontal rows from the top - where are when were they taken . Also, where exact were your sonw photos from and the big one down the bottom - where and when?? Thanks don Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > Hi all, > > Finally I have been able to correct computer problems and put the latest > pics online. Here they are for those who don't mind photographs. It include > the Wyong photographs - you can almost climb the clouds they are so crisp - > sorry I am getting carried away. It reminded me of the crispness of the US > storms and some of storms we have had in the past here > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20010905.html > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p594-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.142.86] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 10:58:55 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather Subject: aus-wx: Nick Sykes said on sms he was heading for Apollo Bay (Cape Otway area) today. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Chase08Sep/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p594-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.142.86] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 12:13:22 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nick Sykes said on sms he was heading for Apollo Bay (Cape Otway area) today. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Updated to 11 am http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Chase08Sep/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Southern Ocean Lows Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 13:51:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Does anyone know the record low pressure of a Southern Ocean low (in recorded history)? The one which is now way SW of Perth at about 64S http://www.eng.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/sector-c.gif had a central pressure of 930hPa on Friday. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: 07/09/01 Vic Chase Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 14:15:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The day started off pretty boring. I was in Portland at the time. The night before, I though something might have happened as I sat down at the break water in the car, listening to the static on the radio as earlier that night, the sky just had that feeling that something was going to happen, but it never did. Woke up to light rain in Portland on Friday morning, and thought that was all it was going to do. So I headed off from Portland back home. Just North of the Grampians though, the sky opened up, and all the stratocu that I had in Portland had almost completely cleared and it was nice and sunny. I had also noted that it had been raining during the morning and that the ground was still considerably wet. Just South of Horsham, the radio put across the Bureau of Meteorology forecast of possible, isolated thunderstorms for the late afternoon. Upon returning home, I jumped online to catch up with everyone and also to see what the sat pics and radar were showing. Not long after this, my chase partner arrived and said that he had heard about the possible storm situation. We decided to hang around a while longer and wait to see what would happen. We went for a walk around town, but at this stage, the skies were completely clear of any cloud, so we headed back to the house and he decided to head home without even looking at the radar or lightning tracker. Around 5:00pm though, the BoM issued a Severe Thunderstorm Advice for the Wimmera and the Mallee (I’m in the Wimmera) and so I decided to call my chase partner and tell him to get back to my house so we could head out West and chase. Talking to his father, he told me that he had gone down to Melbourne to spend a few days with his cousin!!!!!! I then decided to head out by myself, and so after a quick goodbye and a call for updates in IRC, I made my way to Horsham. I decided to call in and see some friends in Horsham, so after about an hour there, and numerous updates, I left them and went and got some fuel and some dinner (McDonalds) and then started heading North towards Dimboola. Just out of Horsham, a CG dropped about 20 kilometres away from me, which made my excitement level shoot up. This was the first time since February that I had a storm in my area. I continued to drive north until I got to Pimpinio, where I pulled off onto a side road, jumped out and started filming the lightning. After a phone call to Nick Sykes, I decided to sit at my location a little longer and watch the lightning slowly approach. I then decided to head back South to Horsham. I called Andrew McDonald at wail and he said that he was sitting at Ararat watching the lightning. I decided to try and stay in front of these storms and headed through Horsham towards Ararat. Just South of Horsham, I ran into an extremely heavy shower. Even with the windshield wipers on full, I found it hard to see 30 meters or so in front of me. I continued driving and after some small debris along the road between Great Western and Ararat, I arrived at One Tree Hill Lookout at Ararat and met up with Andrew. After about 10 minutes at the lookout, Andrew decided to head towards Ballarat and keep ahead of the storms, so I headed down the hill with Andrew behind me. After getting back on the highway, we headed south towards Ballarat. Most of the way between Ararat and Beaufort, we encountered debris across the road, including a tree that had fallen over and was on the road far enough to have to drive around it and slightly move into the opposite lane. During this time, the winds were constantly hammering the car from the 9 O’clock position and throwing small bits of debris into the car. A few times on the video, you can hear this debris hitting the car and some cursing comments by me. After driving through the Beaufort plains, we reached the Red Roo roadhouse, in which we both got out of our cars extremely excited with what we drove through. We went inside and I loaded up the laptop to have a look at the radar and lightning tracker as well as a few other things. We were joined soon enough by two ambulance officers who were returning from Melbourne on their way back to Horsham. These guys seemed to know a bit about the weather radars and weather, in which I found out afterwards that they had turned out to numerous severe weather events. Andrew then decided to continue on back towards Melbourne while I decided to head back home. Not long after Andrew left, it started raining down very heavily, and once again, the ASWA jumper kept me quite dry (Damn these jumpers are good…I need more). I followed the ambulance back to Stawell and then parted them and headed back on the quiet drive to Murtoa. Upon reaching home, I got online and also watched my storm video footage a couple of times before finally heading to bed. Being my first chase of this season, I can only look forward to hopefully having a lot more storm action. I would like to thank nick Sykes and Robert Goler for the updates while on the road. They were extremely helpful and were very much appreciated. PaulY Paul Yole Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA Cell # - +61 418 369 256 Home# - +61 35 385 2699 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: dencot1 at aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 08:11:14 EDT Subject: Re: aus-wx: 07/09/01 Vic Chase To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 111 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com paul I cant wait until the season gets going for the reports so keep them coming. regards dennis cottle +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: 9 Sep 2001 10:37:59 -0700 X-Sent: 9 Sep 2001 17:37:59 GMT From: Tessa Thomas Cc: aussie-weather at world.std.com, aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.9.3.5 Subject: aus-wx: Where are all the posts? X-Sent-From: tessat at ivillage.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Is this still the weather group? I haven't received any emails for a few days now? _________________________________________________________________ iVillage.com: Solutions for Your Life Check out the most exciting women's community on the Web http://www.ivillage.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Interesting cloudband Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:32:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Interesting image this morning of the cloudband feeding in from the Indian Ocean. Seems to have split from the band overnight & now has deveopled a (correct me if I'm wrong) 'delineation zone' I think it's called, at its leading edge. The band is also aligned more towards the SE than before (easterly) & beginning to broaden. The interaction of this band and the front approaching from the western Bight today should be rather interesting. Still IR image http://www.eng.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/ausvlast.gif Movie ftp://ftp.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/ausmovie.gif Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p46-max5.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.157.238] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:33:23 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Where are all the posts? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just in case you do receive this e-mail, this is apparently not working at the moment. I certiny hope that it gets up and going again. Jimmy Deguara At 10:37 AM 9/9/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Is this still the weather group? I haven't received any emails for a few >days now? > >_________________________________________________________________ >iVillage.com: Solutions for Your Life >Check out the most exciting women's community on the Web >http://www.ivillage.com > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Where are all the posts? Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:02:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thinking along the same lines. Everyone must be chasing :-)) Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tessa Thomas" Cc: ; Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:37 AM Subject: aus-wx: Where are all the posts? > Is this still the weather group? I haven't received any emails for a few days now? > > _________________________________________________________________ > iVillage.com: Solutions for Your Life > Check out the most exciting women's community on the Web > http://www.ivillage.com > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:57:09 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Ocean Lows Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jane... There was one of 928 to the SW of Tassie - well SW on 10 Agust 1964.... the same westerly that brought the record 2 metres of snow in 24 hours to upper Snowies... but as for record, these must be close but maybe Blair has figures??? don W Jane ONeill wrote: > > Does anyone know the record low pressure of a Southern Ocean low (in > recorded history)? The one which is now way SW of Perth at about 64S > http://www.eng.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/sector-c.gif had a central pressure > of 930hPa on Friday. > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Where are all the posts? Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:17:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com RE: aus-wx: Where are all the posts?

All,

I have been able to receive all posts and post to the system. The lack of emails has had me wondering if everyone was migrating to a second list as previously happened, or whether we were too busy chasing to report in. Either way, I'm looking forward to hearing from everyone again, it breaks the workday up to be able to read some of the informative posts from the likes of Laurier, Clyve, Jane, Harold, etc, etc.

Cheers
Andrew Godsman

-----Original Message-----
From: Jimmy Deguara [mailto:jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 6:33
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Where are all the posts?


Just in case you do receive this e-mail, this is apparently not working at
the moment. I certiny hope that it gets up and going again.

Jimmy Deguara

At 10:37 AM 9/9/2001 -0700, you wrote:
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>days now?
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X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:34:21 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: RE: aus-wx: Where are all the posts? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have sent messages to this list in recent days that have not turned up back in mail inbox at all, or taken many, many hours. It is a big problem. At 07:17 AM 10/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >All, > >I have been able to receive all posts and post to the system. The lack of >emails has had me wondering if everyone was migrating to a second list as >previously happened, or whether we were too busy chasing to report in. >Either way, I'm looking forward to hearing from everyone again, it breaks >the workday up to be able to read some of the informative posts from the >likes of Laurier, Clyve, Jane, Harold, etc, etc. > >Cheers >Andrew Godsman > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jimmy Deguara >[mailto:jdeguara at ihug.com.au] >Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 6:33 >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Where are all the posts? > >Just in case you do receive this e-mail, this is apparently not working at >the moment. I certiny hope that it gets up and going again. > >Jimmy Deguara > >At 10:37 AM 9/9/2001 -0700, you wrote: > >Is this still the weather group? I haven't received any emails for a few > >days now? > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >iVillage.com: Solutions for Your Life > >Check out the most exciting women's community on the Web > >http://www.ivillage.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >----------------------------------------- >Jimmy Deguara >Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > >from >Schofields, Sydney >NSW Australia > >e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > >Web Page with Michael Bath > >Australian Severe Weather Home Page >http://www.australiasevereweather.com > >President of the Australian Severe Weather Association >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >EOM > >NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that >is confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by >the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the >person responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, >be advised that you have received this message in error and that any >dissemination, copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly >forbidden, as is the disclosure of the information therein. If you have >received this message in error please notify the sender immediately and >delete the message. ============================================================= Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW http://www.lightningphotography.com/ ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ============================================================= +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: dactyl at world.std.com To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 18:55:06 -0400 Subject: aus-wx: list probs X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All As a customer of world.std.com, I experienced problems getting my own email. World recently had a mail server upgrade and although they wouldn't admit it to me, it was rumored the upgrade did not go well. They seemed to have fixed the problems so everything should be fine. Thanks Tara http://world.std.com/~dactyl/ircwx/ http://world.std.com/~dactyl/HomePage/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Where are all the posts? Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:08:13 +1000 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We only received 5 over the weekend. A couple sent were not received back. Mark Hardy The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. http://www.theweather.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Michael Bath Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 7:34 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Where are all the posts? I have sent messages to this list in recent days that have not turned up back in mail inbox at all, or taken many, many hours. It is a big problem. At 07:17 AM 10/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >All, > >I have been able to receive all posts and post to the system. The lack >of >emails has had me wondering if everyone was migrating to a second list as >previously happened, or whether we were too busy chasing to report in. >Either way, I'm looking forward to hearing from everyone again, it breaks >the workday up to be able to read some of the informative posts from the >likes of Laurier, Clyve, Jane, Harold, etc, etc. > >Cheers >Andrew Godsman > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jimmy Deguara >[mailto:jdeguara at ihug.com.au] >Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 6:33 >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Where are all the posts? > >Just in case you do receive this e-mail, this is apparently not working >at the moment. I certiny hope that it gets up and going again. > >Jimmy Deguara > >At 10:37 AM 9/9/2001 -0700, you wrote: > >Is this still the weather group? I haven't received any emails for a > >few days now? > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >iVillage.com: Solutions for Your Life > >Check out the most exciting women's community on the Web > >http://www.ivillage.com > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >----------------------------------------- >Jimmy Deguara >Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > >from >Schofields, Sydney >NSW Australia > >e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > >Web Page with Michael Bath > >Australian Severe Weather Home Page >http://www.australiasevereweathe >r.com > >President of the Australian Severe Weather Association >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >EOM > >NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information >that >is confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by >the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the >person responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, >be advised that you have received this message in error and that any >dissemination, copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly >forbidden, as is the disclosure of the information therein. If you have >received this message in error please notify the sender immediately and >delete the message. ============================================================= Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW http://www.lightningphotography.com/ ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ============================================================= +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:24:11 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: RE: aus-wx: Where are all the posts? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all I've accepted that there's been some big problem with the list since Friday at least. The question is - have all those posts we've made disappeared into the ether forever, of will they re-appear at some stage? P Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "islesit" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Southern Ocean Lows Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:58:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Don and Jane. 930 hpa. WOW! Ill say that again WOW! Still a beginner at this but I know that a tropical cyclone is declared at 980hpa. I sincerely hope there are no humans down there! That must be one hell of a storm. Ill keep an eye on it but those lows appear to be racing around below Tasmania Ian Isles -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Don White Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 6:57 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Ocean Lows Jane... There was one of 928 to the SW of Tassie - well SW on 10 Agust 1964.... the same westerly that brought the record 2 metres of snow in 24 hours to upper Snowies... but as for record, these must be close but maybe Blair has figures??? don W Jane ONeill wrote: > > Does anyone know the record low pressure of a Southern Ocean low (in > recorded history)? The one which is now way SW of Perth at about 64S > http://www.eng.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/sector-c.gif had a central pressure > of 930hPa on Friday. > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:35:38 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Ocean Lows Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Ian, Tropical cyclones are more so rated at wind speed than pressure - some TC's can have pressures as high as 1000hPa if the winds qualify as a TC! Just remember though the difference between tropical cyclones and cold air depressions - the winds in depressions in the Southern Ocean often are not as strong as tropical cyclones because it's the pressure gradient that gives tropical cyclones their punch. A TC can be 940hPa and perhaps only 100km in diameter...that could result in a 60hPa gradient over 100km! But a depression that is say 940hPa would have that 60hPa gradient to 1000mb over several hundred kilometres - so the winds aren't quite as strong. AC islesit wrote: > > Thanks Don and Jane. > > 930 hpa. WOW! Ill say that again WOW! > > Still a beginner at this but I know that a tropical cyclone is declared at > 980hpa. > > I sincerely hope there are no humans down there! > > That must be one hell of a storm. Ill keep an eye on it but those lows > appear to be racing around below Tasmania > > Ian Isles > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Don White > Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 6:57 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Ocean Lows > > Jane... > There was one of 928 to the SW of Tassie - well SW on 10 Agust 1964.... > the same westerly that brought the record 2 metres of snow in 24 hours > to upper Snowies... but as for record, these must be close but maybe > Blair has figures??? > > don W > > Jane ONeill wrote: > > > > Does anyone know the record low pressure of a Southern Ocean low (in > > recorded history)? The one which is now way SW of Perth at about 64S > > http://www.eng.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/sector-c.gif had a central pressure > > of 930hPa on Friday. > > > > Jane > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > ASWA - Victoria > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [141.132.128.52] From: "Leslie Baxter" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 07/09/01 Vic Chase Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 03:07:22 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2001 03:07:22.0823 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5F56570:01C139A5] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Paul looks like you had fun Yeah I was in Colac for the weekend which seems like I was in the wrong place for wx, we had no storms nothing just a howling gale. Doh! I saw 2 very distant lightning flashs way to the WNW as I was out urgh watering my uncles lemon tree. I couldn't chase mainly because I was hmmm to drunk to, hehehehe. Anyhow I came home sunday night and I checked my rain guage and well hmmm looks like ballarat had some action, not fair when I wasn't home, we had 20mm for the weekend, biggest total so far for my guage. Well things could get intersting again later this week with more CF and upper lows to come across our skies cheers Les Baxter Ballarat Weather PS as for the photos that I took well nothing came out, someone didn't put the film in the camera properly (it was mum+dad's camera mine was empty) >From: "Paul Yole" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" >Subject: aus-wx: 07/09/01 Vic Chase >Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 14:15:02 +1000 > >The day started off pretty boring. I was in Portland at the >time. The night before, I though something might have >happened as I sat down at the break water in the car, >listening to the static on the radio as earlier that night, >the sky just had that feeling that something was going to >happen, but it never did. > >Woke up to light rain in Portland on Friday morning, and >thought that was all it was going to do. So I headed off >from Portland back home. Just North of the Grampians though, >the sky opened up, and all the stratocu that I had in >Portland had almost completely cleared and it was nice and >sunny. I had also noted that it had been raining during the >morning and that the ground was still considerably wet. Just >South of Horsham, the radio put across the Bureau of >Meteorology forecast of possible, isolated thunderstorms for >the late afternoon. > >Upon returning home, I jumped online to catch up with >everyone and also to see what the sat pics and radar were >showing. Not long after this, my chase partner arrived and >said that he had heard about the possible storm situation. >We decided to hang around a while longer and wait to see >what would happen. We went for a walk around town, but at >this stage, the skies were completely clear of any cloud, so >we headed back to the house and he decided to head home >without even looking at the radar or lightning tracker. > >Around 5:00pm though, the BoM issued a Severe Thunderstorm >Advice for the Wimmera and the Mallee (I’m in the Wimmera) >and so I decided to call my chase partner and tell him to >get back to my house so we could head out West and chase. >Talking to his father, he told me that he had gone down to >Melbourne to spend a few days with his cousin!!!!!! > >I then decided to head out by myself, and so after a quick >goodbye and a call for updates in IRC, I made my way to >Horsham. I decided to call in and see some friends in >Horsham, so after about an hour there, and numerous updates, >I left them and went and got some fuel and some dinner >(McDonalds) and then started heading North towards Dimboola. > >Just out of Horsham, a CG dropped about 20 kilometres away >from me, which made my excitement level shoot up. This was >the first time since February that I had a storm in my area. >I continued to drive north until I got to Pimpinio, where I >pulled off onto a side road, jumped out and started filming >the lightning. After a phone call to Nick Sykes, I decided >to sit at my location a little longer and watch the >lightning slowly approach. I then decided to head back South >to Horsham. > >I called Andrew McDonald at wail and he said that he was >sitting at Ararat watching the lightning. I decided to try >and stay in front of these storms and headed through Horsham >towards Ararat. Just South of Horsham, I ran into an >extremely heavy shower. Even with the windshield wipers on >full, I found it hard to see 30 meters or so in front of me. >I continued driving and after some small debris along the >road between Great Western and Ararat, I arrived at One Tree >Hill Lookout at Ararat and met up with Andrew. > >After about 10 minutes at the lookout, Andrew decided to >head towards Ballarat and keep ahead of the storms, so I >headed down the hill with Andrew behind me. After getting >back on the highway, we headed south towards Ballarat. Most >of the way between Ararat and Beaufort, we encountered >debris across the road, including a tree that had fallen >over and was on the road far enough to have to drive around >it and slightly move into the opposite lane. > >During this time, the winds were constantly hammering the >car from the 9 O’clock position and throwing small bits of >debris into the car. A few times on the video, you can hear >this debris hitting the car and some cursing comments by me. >After driving through the Beaufort plains, we reached the >Red Roo roadhouse, in which we both got out of our cars >extremely excited with what we drove through. > >We went inside and I loaded up the laptop to have a look at >the radar and lightning tracker as well as a few other >things. We were joined soon enough by two ambulance officers >who were returning from Melbourne on their way back to >Horsham. These guys seemed to know a bit about the weather >radars and weather, in which I found out afterwards that >they had turned out to numerous severe weather events. > >Andrew then decided to continue on back towards Melbourne >while I decided to head back home. Not long after Andrew >left, it started raining down very heavily, and once again, >the ASWA jumper kept me quite dry (Damn these jumpers are >good…I need more). I followed the ambulance back to Stawell >and then parted them and headed back on the quiet drive to >Murtoa. Upon reaching home, I got online and also watched my >storm video footage a couple of times before finally heading >to bed. > >Being my first chase of this season, I can only look forward >to hopefully having a lot more storm action. I would like to >thank nick Sykes and Robert Goler for the updates while on >the road. They were extremely helpful and were very much >appreciated. > >PaulY > > > >Paul Yole >Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA >Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter >Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA >Cell # - +61 418 369 256 >Home# - +61 35 385 2699 >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Southern Ocean Lows Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:39:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Ian & Anthony, My 2 cents worth: Also you have to consider the vertical structure. TC's are warm cored which means the strongest winds are at the surface. Southern Ocean depressions are cold cored thus the strongest winds are at altitude. John >snip Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Ocean Lows Hi Ian, Tropical cyclones are more so rated at wind speed than pressure - some TC's can have pressures as high as 1000hPa if the winds qualify as a TC! Just remember though the difference between tropical cyclones and cold air depressions - the winds in depressions in the Southern Ocean often are not as strong as tropical cyclones because it's the pressure gradient that gives tropical cyclones their punch. A TC can be 940hPa and perhaps only 100km in diameter...that could result in a 60hPa gradient over 100km! But a depression that is say 940hPa would have that 60hPa gradient to 1000mb over several hundred kilometres - so the winds aren't quite as strong. AC +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Severe thunderstorms hit Adelaide. Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:26:09 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi,
 
There are photos and report are on my website:
 
 
Enjoy explore that page.
From Nathan Thompson.
From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe thunderstorms hit Adelaide. Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:23:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Am I mis-interpreting these but that looks like a gust front. Not sure though :-)
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 6:56 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Severe thunderstorms hit Adelaide.

Hi,
 
There are photos and report are on my website:
 
 
Enjoy explore that page.
From Nathan Thompson.
From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Ocean Lows Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:58:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Have a look at the one south of WA on today's map..940.hpa..it's probably as deep as it will get.. ----- Original Message ----- From: islesit To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:58 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Southern Ocean Lows > Thanks Don and Jane. > > 930 hpa. WOW! Ill say that again WOW! > > Still a beginner at this but I know that a tropical cyclone is declared at > 980hpa. > > I sincerely hope there are no humans down there! > > That must be one hell of a storm. Ill keep an eye on it but those lows > appear to be racing around below Tasmania > > Ian Isles > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Don White > Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 6:57 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Ocean Lows > > Jane... > There was one of 928 to the SW of Tassie - well SW on 10 Agust 1964.... > the same westerly that brought the record 2 metres of snow in 24 hours > to upper Snowies... but as for record, these must be close but maybe > Blair has figures??? > > don W > > Jane ONeill wrote: > > > > Does anyone know the record low pressure of a Southern Ocean low (in > > recorded history)? The one which is now way SW of Perth at about 64S > > http://www.eng.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/sector-c.gif had a central pressure > > of 930hPa on Friday. > > > > Jane > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > ASWA - Victoria > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.94.164] From: "adele jaunn" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: KA-BOOM in Adelaide last Friday Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:04:55 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2001 15:04:55.0396 (UTC) FILETIME=[F34AB240:01C13A09] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all! Last Friday I was in a queue in the post office in the city of Adelaide when a thundercrack made everybody jump, me included... But it was a welcoming rumble, I must say! Also, hail fell in Rundle Mall. :-) (By the way, great photos of the gust front, Nathan!) Hopefully there will be more activity of this kind as weather gets hotter! And I wouldn't mind if it happened a bit later in the day... I haven't experienced a night or late evening storm for ages! I'd like to get stuck into photographing lightning. Anyway... Tom and I are looking forward to joining in at the SA ASWA meeting on Friday! :-) Adele _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:09:41 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: Re: aus-wx: Where are all the posts? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've recieved about 6 to 8 emails a day over the past few days. Jacob At 07:02 AM 10/09/2001 +1000, you wrote: >Thinking along the same lines. Everyone must be chasing :-)) >Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tessa Thomas" >Cc: ; >Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:37 AM >Subject: aus-wx: Where are all the posts? > > >> Is this still the weather group? I haven't received any emails for a few >days now? >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> iVillage.com: Solutions for Your Life >> Check out the most exciting women's community on the Web >> http://www.ivillage.com >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "islesit" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Severe thunderstorms hit Adelaide. Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:20:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Good report and a great series of pictures!  Thanks Nathan! Read your report and enjoyed the pics.

 

Ian Isles

Coffs Harbour

:-) Storm season is here!

 

 

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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Nathan Thompson
Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 6:56 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Severe thunderstorms hit Adelaide.

 

Hi,

 

There are photos and report are on my website:

 

http://severestorm.tripod.com/070901.html

 

Enjoy explore that page.

From Nathan Thompson.

pthomps3 at bigpond.net.au

Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:42:43 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe thunderstorms hit Adelaide. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com  
 

Yep top work in getting those photos Nathan, shame your bike tyre was flat, but im sure you had fun chasing it (and being chased back home!)
Im sure you will be talking about this storm for years to come :)

Matt Smith
 

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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Nathan Thompson
Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 6:56 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Severe thunderstorms hit Adelaide.

Hi,

There are photos and report are on my website:

http://severestorm.tripod.com/070901.html

Enjoy explore that page.

From Nathan Thompson.

pthomps3 at bigpond.net.au

Subject: aus-wx: Broken Hill Thunderstorms To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:12:13 +1000 (EST) From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Line of very lightning-active thunderstorms has entered W NSW (extending N ans S from Broken Hill area). Arithmetic average of flow from 23Z PAD and CBT soundings shows a possibility of embedded severe cells (higher severe likelihood at S end of the line with locally backed flow). Surface moisture is still a bit scarce. Welcome to the Storm Season 2001, Harald -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Richter BMRC PO Box 1289K Melbourne VIC 3001 Australia ph: +61 3 9669 4501 fax: +61 3 9669 4660 email: h.richter at bom.gov.au url: http://thryp.ho.bom.gov.au/external/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:17:46 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: west nsw storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I thought an STA might have been issued by now for the lower western... plenty of lightning on tracker down that way, and it looks like the storms will continue for hours to come. Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Broken Hill Thunderstorms Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:09:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2001 06:10:38.0366 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A39DBE0:01C13A88] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Harald. There is evidence of mid level instability over the ranges of Vic also this afternoon with alto cu cas showing positive buoyancy above 8 or 9000th feet, although this is mixing with subsidence on the far south of the vorticity area west of Broken Hill, looks as if the low will pass north of Vic tonight and tomorrow. regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Harald Richter To: Aussie Weather Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:12 PM Subject: aus-wx: Broken Hill Thunderstorms > > Line of very lightning-active thunderstorms has entered W NSW (extending > N ans S from Broken Hill area). Arithmetic average of flow from 23Z PAD and > CBT soundings shows a possibility of embedded severe cells (higher > severe likelihood at S end of the line with locally backed flow). > Surface moisture is still a bit scarce. > > Welcome to the Storm Season 2001, > Harald > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > Harald Richter > BMRC > PO Box 1289K > Melbourne VIC 3001 > Australia > ph: +61 3 9669 4501 > fax: +61 3 9669 4660 > email: h.richter at bom.gov.au > url: http://thryp.ho.bom.gov.au/external/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:33:52 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: west nsw storms From: Greg Stewart To: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com on 11/9/01 2:17 PM, Matthew Smith at tornado at cnn.net.au wrote: > > I thought an STA might have been issued by now for the lower western... > plenty of lightning on tracker down that way, and it looks like the > storms will continue for hours to come. > > Matt Smith > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Drove home from work (3:30 pm.) I heard 4 static discharges on the AM radio in that time. It is raining steadily at the moment but no severe weather. Greg Mildura +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:51:48 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: west nsw storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Alan Williams who is in Broken Hill reports 5 separate storms between 10.30 and 2.30 ... one with small hail and gusts to 70 km/hr. A few fast moving showers still occurring. don W Greg Stewart wrote: > > on 11/9/01 2:17 PM, Matthew Smith at tornado at cnn.net.au wrote: > > > > > I thought an STA might have been issued by now for the lower western... > > plenty of lightning on tracker down that way, and it looks like the > > storms will continue for hours to come. > > > > Matt Smith > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > Drove home from work (3:30 pm.) I heard 4 static discharges on the AM radio > in that time. It is raining steadily at the moment but no severe weather. > > Greg > Mildura > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:06:20 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: More Data Loss Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Following the sudden closure of Nobbys Head (Newcastle) after over 100 years of data, Newcastle was left without a long term climate station... Newcastle Uni is a relatively new site. This happened on 18 June. Apparently, Liverpool closed today after close on 40 years. So, no more manuel obs from Sydney's SW but at least the area is relatively well off with Holsworthy, Horsley Park, Badgerys Creek and Bankstown. I wonder if the BoM forecasts will cease until Liverpool now. Don White +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: NSW Squall Line (was: BHI Thunderstorms) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:04:50 +1000 (EST) From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Clyve, > Hi Harald. > There is evidence of mid level instability over the ranges of Vic also this > afternoon with alto cu cas showing positive buoyancy above 8 or 9000th feet, > although this is mixing with subsidence on the far south of the vorticity > area west of Broken Hill, looks as if the low will pass north of Vic tonight > and tomorrow. regards Clyve H. This mornings MML sounding sports LI = -2 with a dry adiabatic lapse rate in the 900-800 hPa layer (yesterday's BL, I presume). The 4:27 pm lightning tracker shows some recent strikes W of Melbourne as well. The NSW squall line has pivoted around the surface low in SW NSW. It is still a prolific lightning producer as it rides the nose of cool moist air that is pulled around the N side of the low. Unfortunately the warm air NE of the squall line is fairly dry at the surface, so I wouldn't expect this line to intensify much. The deep moisture is still parked close to the Coral Sea. This mornings BRK (Rockhampton) sounding showed ~70 mb of BL moisture (~8 g/kg), up from ~1 mb the day before. Maybe SE QLD will get a bit of a show out of this system later. Cheers, Harald -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Richter BMRC PO Box 1289K Melbourne VIC 3001 Australia ph: +61 3 9669 4501 fax: +61 3 9669 4660 email: h.richter at bom.gov.au url: http://thryp.ho.bom.gov.au/external/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: More Data Loss Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:21:30 +1000 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com BOM forecasts will continue for Liverpool for now but they are considering it to be replaced by a Bankstown or Parramatta forecast sometime in the next few months. I heard that an AWS is going into Nobbys. Is this still the case? Mark Hardy The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. http://www.theweather.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Don White Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 5:06 PM To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: More Data Loss Following the sudden closure of Nobbys Head (Newcastle) after over 100 years of data, Newcastle was left without a long term climate station... Newcastle Uni is a relatively new site. This happened on 18 June. Apparently, Liverpool closed today after close on 40 years. So, no more manuel obs from Sydney's SW but at least the area is relatively well off with Holsworthy, Horsley Park, Badgerys Creek and Bankstown. I wonder if the BoM forecasts will cease until Liverpool now. Don White +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p322-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.148.68] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:13:13 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: west nsw storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Don and Greg, I was just about to respond to this. There is the potential for some quite severe thunderstorms in western NSW perhaps more breaking through later. Broken Hill is in last part of the time zone I suppose. I know what Harald was referring to as well. The backing in the atmosphere at the lower levels would have had possible tornadoes in the forecast in the US. But who lives out there. Jimmy Deguara At 04:51 PM 11/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >Alan Williams who is in Broken Hill reports 5 separate storms between >10.30 and 2.30 ... one with small hail and gusts to 70 km/hr. A few fast >moving showers still occurring. > >don W > >Greg Stewart wrote: > > > > on 11/9/01 2:17 PM, Matthew Smith at tornado at cnn.net.au wrote: > > > > > > > > I thought an STA might have been issued by now for the lower western... > > > plenty of lightning on tracker down that way, and it looks like the > > > storms will continue for hours to come. > > > > > > Matt Smith > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > Drove home from work (3:30 pm.) I heard 4 static discharges on the AM > radio > > in that time. It is raining steadily at the moment but no severe weather. > > > > Greg > > Mildura > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p322-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.148.68] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:28:54 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: west nsw storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, In addition to what I said in the previous e-mail with the same subject, I would expect severe thunderstorms to develop along the band into SW Qld. A better moisture profile exists from around 30S northwards. However, the lower level turning is not ideal in this area based on AVN. Jimmy Deguara At 04:51 PM 11/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >Alan Williams who is in Broken Hill reports 5 separate storms between >10.30 and 2.30 ... one with small hail and gusts to 70 km/hr. A few fast >moving showers still occurring. > >don W > >Greg Stewart wrote: > > > > on 11/9/01 2:17 PM, Matthew Smith at tornado at cnn.net.au wrote: > > > > > > > > I thought an STA might have been issued by now for the lower western... > > > plenty of lightning on tracker down that way, and it looks like the > > > storms will continue for hours to come. > > > > > > Matt Smith > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > Drove home from work (3:30 pm.) I heard 4 static discharges on the AM > radio > > in that time. It is raining steadily at the moment but no severe weather. > > > > Greg > > Mildura > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: dencot1 at aol.com Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 04:05:03 EDT Subject: aus-wx: Offtopic: PPP Problems To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 111 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We're having problems connecting to the net; We can connect but can't view web pages. AOL reckon it's a ppp prblam and it looks like it is too. Ip Config is showing zeros in the ppp section. Aol reckon we should update the modem drivers but i don't know. Does anyone have excperience in this? Dennis ansd Evan Cottle +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les Crossan" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Offtopic: PPP Problems Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:24:12 +0100 Organization: Chaotic X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It's a DHCP / DNS problem: reinstall AOL. If you think about it the modem is working but it's not picking up an ip address. Les "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell." - Aldous Huxley == Les Crossan and Christine Challen, Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 55N 01-30W les.crossan at virgin.net www.uksevereweather.org.uk Wallsend StormCam: www.cc0020209.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wallsendstormcam.htm === Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system before leaving minerva.domain (www.grisoft.com) engine: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release Date: 05/09/2001 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:05 AM Subject: aus-wx: Offtopic: PPP Problems > We're having problems connecting to the net; We can connect but can't view > web pages. AOL reckon it's a ppp prblam and it looks like it is too. Ip > Config is showing zeros in the ppp section. Aol reckon we should update the > modem drivers but i don't know. Does anyone have excperience in this? > Dennis ansd Evan Cottle > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew" To: Subject: aus-wx: Vic Storms Today & 7/9/01 Chase Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:13:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2001 08:18:23.0645 (UTC) FILETIME=[53169CD0:01C13A9A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A few storms have popped up on radar in SW Vic this afternoon/evening with one cell near Colac and a more recent one near Port Campbell. A nice Cj went up to the S of the city at around 3:30pm today as well which was nice to watch. As Paul Yole mentioned in his chase report he met up with me so I'll give a brief account of my chase. After forecasting severe storms for Adelaide at 9am Friday morning I was somewhat pleased when Anthony Cornelius sent my some messages letting me know it was happening. I got home from uni at about 4pm with the thought in my head that I would consider chasing out to the NW or W if the line of storms remained active. The line which passed through adelaide weakened shortly after exiting the suburbs of Adelaide but anew line of storms developed ahead of this about 150km from the SA/VIC border. Some very strong cells occurred around Lameroo and Bordertown and when I realised that the line would probably continue for a while I packed my chase gear and headed west with the intention of intercepting the line somewhere around Ararat. (Note for future chases: Don't leave during peak hour traffic - its far far too frustrating.) After getting petrol I had to contend with peak hour traffic all the way to Melton which wasn't pleasant but after that it cleared and I virtually had the road to myself. I didn't expect to see anything for a while but shortly after leaving Ballan on the way to Ballarat I saw a distant flash to the west. I was on the phone to Anthony at the time getting an idea of where the best cells were and I think he is still having trouble hearing after I yelled "LIGHTNING" about 20 times. (It was the first chase of the season and i was excited....hehe). I watched this area way way off to the west produce one flash every 10 seconds or so but static on the radio suggested more storms elsewhere with static every 1-2 seconds. I was happy with my original plan so i headed from Ballarat to Ararat. The road along here has quite a few trees so the flashes became les s visible but every minute or so i'd see a brighter flash through the trees. I should mention the wind here. The wind was from the N and was quite strong with gusts up to 50km/h (est.) and it made driving quite challenging. About 5km from Ararat I broke clear of the trees and WHOA.....CG's every 10 seconds or so from teh W around to the NNW. I was impressed. I knew now where I was going to set up - One Tree Hill Lookout at Ararat. (Its on the W side of town on the road to Horsham - you turn off to the left and its about 3km out of town - fairly well sign posted). There were already a few cars up at the lookout watching the storms so I just pulled up and turned the lights off and watched as cells to my W and NW produced CG after CG. Not overly frequent - about 1 every 10-15 seconds but the majority of lightning was CG's. I still had the radio on and a cell way way off to the SW (around Portland area) was producing infrequent anvil crawlers with several lasting as long as 4 seconds. This is without a word of a lie. The static would start up and continue for an eternity and on two occasions I watched as the anvil of this distant cell was lit up and lit up and lit up for the entire crackle of static. Chris Gribben will vouch for this as he heard one while providing me with an update at about 9:00pm. I videoed for a while and got some OK CG's on film. I moved the car a few times to watch various cells with the cell to the N becoming the most active for a while. The wind continued to howl with gusts up to about 60km/h rocking the car and sending dust flying everywhere. Paul Yole arrived at the lookout and we watched for about 10 minutes before the cell to the N started to get a little close (you'll find out how close in a second....hehe). We agreed to head down towards Ballarat in the hope to stay ahead of these cells and soon after the rain started we got in our cars and started making our way down from the lookout. Oh - I forgot to mention something - on top of the lookout there is a HUGE mobile phone tower...hehehe. We were about 200m from this tower when FLASH......CRACKBOOOMMMM.....there goes the tower.....hehehe. That's how close the storm was. CG's hit that tower 3 more times while we drove down the hill from the lookout (so 4 times in about 1 minute) and the wind got stronger and stronger with gusts close to 80km/h breaking small branches off trees and pounding them into our cars. A brief flurry of small (0.8cm) hail also pounded the cars on the way down the mountain. Unfortuantely the lightning died off after we left Ararat but the winds continued to roar from the N. I think we may've been cruising in and out of the outflow from the storm becuase at times the wind was so strong the cars would just blow 4-6 feet sideways onto the wrong side of the road. It was quite dangerous at times. Tree branches were coming down and as Pauly mentioned, 1 large tree had fallen onto our side of the road. One massive gust of wind tore some metal signs off a fence and flung them across the road with 2 pieces going in front of my car and a 3rd and 4th piece flying past the back of the car as well as some larger tree branches. This was awesome and I was extremely lucky that this didn't hit my car. After this things quietened down a lot and the chase ended at a roadhouse in Beaufort. I also got some severe winds at my house later that night when a small squall line formed just to the NW. The winds tore a branch (about 10cm in diametre) off a neighbors tree and flung it onto their fence and the roar of the wind at the time was incredible. I loved it....hehe. Anyway - that's about it. I'll upload some captures at a later date to go with this report. Regards, Andrew McDonald Regards, Andrew McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: Harald Richter To: Aussie Weather Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:04 PM Subject: aus-wx: NSW Squall Line (was: BHI Thunderstorms) > > Clyve, > > > Hi Harald. > > There is evidence of mid level instability over the ranges of Vic also this > > afternoon with alto cu cas showing positive buoyancy above 8 or 9000th feet, > > although this is mixing with subsidence on the far south of the vorticity > > area west of Broken Hill, looks as if the low will pass north of Vic tonight > > and tomorrow. regards Clyve H. > > This mornings MML sounding sports LI = -2 with a dry adiabatic lapse rate > in the 900-800 hPa layer (yesterday's BL, I presume). > The 4:27 pm lightning tracker shows some recent strikes W of Melbourne > as well. > > The NSW squall line has pivoted around the surface low in SW NSW. > It is still a prolific lightning producer as it rides the nose of cool > moist air that is pulled around the N side of the low. > Unfortunately the warm air NE of the squall line is fairly dry > at the surface, so I wouldn't expect this line to intensify much. > > The deep moisture is still parked close to the Coral Sea. This mornings > BRK (Rockhampton) sounding showed ~70 mb of BL moisture (~8 g/kg), > up from ~1 mb the day before. Maybe SE QLD will get a bit of a show > out of this system later. > > Cheers, Harald > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > Harald Richter > BMRC > PO Box 1289K > Melbourne VIC 3001 > Australia > ph: +61 3 9669 4501 > fax: +61 3 9669 4660 > email: h.richter at bom.gov.au > url: http://thryp.ho.bom.gov.au/external/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Carolyn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Offtopic: PPP Problems Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:04:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You could try looking up the maker of the modem on the net or by looking up drivers....I can't remember the web address of the driver site, but a search will do it. Good Luck ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:05 PM Subject: aus-wx: Offtopic: PPP Problems > We're having problems connecting to the net; We can connect but can't view > web pages. AOL reckon it's a ppp prblam and it looks like it is too. Ip > Config is showing zeros in the ppp section. Aol reckon we should update the > modem drivers but i don't know. Does anyone have excperience in this? > Dennis ansd Evan Cottle > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Konnecke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Offtopic: PPP Problems Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:56:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The best place for drivers on the net is http://www.driverguide.com you need to register with them (free) but it's the best place to solve a problem. Regards, Pete (not associated with driverguide.com) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn" To: Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 19:04 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Offtopic: PPP Problems > You could try looking up the maker of the modem on the net or by looking up > drivers....I can't remember the web address of the driver site, but a search > will do it. Good Luck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:05 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Offtopic: PPP Problems > > > > We're having problems connecting to the net; We can connect but can't view > > web pages. AOL reckon it's a ppp prblam and it looks like it is too. Ip > > Config is showing zeros in the ppp section. Aol reckon we should update > the > > modem drivers but i don't know. Does anyone have excperience in this? > > Dennis ansd Evan Cottle > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Nature's signs again Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:56:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Nature's signs are at work again. Yes Clyve, it's the frogs going mad at the minute to the East of here (swampy ground). Very warm 15.6 still at 9pm with a very light SE breeze. Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Tim Eckert To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [203.173.250.141] Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:59:55 +0930 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe thunderstorms hit Adelaide. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This is my first attempt at publishing storm photos on the net. Both pages show photos taken from my home at Newton in the NE suburbs of adelaide of the storm that hit last friday. Unfortunately I haven't linked to a larger view of them as yet, but you get the idea. http://au.geocities.com/timjeckert/7-9-01page1.html http://au.geocities.com/timjeckert/7-9-01page2.html Go to this page to see radar images from the approaching storm. http://au.geocities.com/timjeckert/ I was glad to finally get a decent storm in Adelaide as next week I move house to Coleraine, Victoria. Hopefully some nice spring/summer storms in that part of the world shortly! I'd actually be placing a bet on Adelaide getting some severe storms now that I'm not there! Tim Eckert Adelaide (soon to be Coleraine) __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:43:20 +1000 From: David Carroll X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If anyone hasnt already seen the late night news.. 2 airlineers have crashed into world trade centre buildings in NY. A third attack just been done on Pentagon.. DAve +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Graham" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:55:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yep...flaming nasty......anyone for a world war????front row centre seats here.....(had to put a little bit of humour here) John from Ballina ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > If anyone hasnt already seen the late night news.. > > 2 airlineers have crashed into world trade centre buildings in NY. > > A third attack just been done on Pentagon.. > > DAve > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:11:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2001 14:16:12.0445 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F7D84D0:01C13ACC] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This is an extremely serious and tragic event. Please do not create humor here. Our thoughts are with all those affected by this. (Say a prayer for them all) Macca ----- Original Message ----- From: John Graham To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:55 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > Yep...flaming nasty......anyone for a world war????front row centre seats > here.....(had to put a little bit of humour here) > John from Ballina > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Carroll" > To: "Aussie Weather" > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:43 PM > Subject: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > If anyone hasnt already seen the late night news.. > > > > 2 airlineers have crashed into world trade centre buildings in NY. > > > > A third attack just been done on Pentagon.. > > > > DAve > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:29:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com And there could be a fourth plane heading for washington!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Graham" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:55 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > Yep...flaming nasty......anyone for a world war????front row centre seats > here.....(had to put a little bit of humour here) > John from Ballina > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Carroll" > To: "Aussie Weather" > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:43 PM > Subject: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > If anyone hasnt already seen the late night news.. > > > > 2 airlineers have crashed into world trade centre buildings in NY. > > > > A third attack just been done on Pentagon.. > > > > DAve > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:32:02 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm watching it at home, it's amazing - I can't believe this is happening - BOTH WORD TRADE CENTRES HAVE COLLAPSED!!! This is beyond words... God please be with all those who have family in effected areas tonight... AC Andrew wrote: > > This is an extremely serious and tragic event. Please do not create humor > here. > > Our thoughts are with all those affected by this. > > (Say a prayer for them all) > > Macca > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Graham > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:55 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > Yep...flaming nasty......anyone for a world war????front row centre seats > > here.....(had to put a little bit of humour here) > > John from Ballina > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Carroll" > > To: "Aussie Weather" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:43 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > > > > If anyone hasnt already seen the late night news.. > > > > > > 2 airlineers have crashed into world trade centre buildings in NY. > > > > > > A third attack just been done on Pentagon.. > > > > > > DAve > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:44:46 +1000 From: David Carroll X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com more unconfirmed reports from alt.disasters.aviation that 2 aircraft have crashed at Altanta . This is truely shocking. !!! Simon Angell wrote: > > And there could be a fourth plane heading for washington!!!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Graham" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:55 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > Yep...flaming nasty......anyone for a world war????front row centre seats > > here.....(had to put a little bit of humour here) > > John from Ballina > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Carroll" > > To: "Aussie Weather" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:43 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > > > > If anyone hasnt already seen the late night news.. > > > > > > 2 airlineers have crashed into world trade centre buildings in NY. > > > > > > A third attack just been done on Pentagon.. > > > > > > DAve > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:03:47 +1000 From: David Carroll X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just been talking on MSN messenger to friend in Tulsa, they have been told to evacuate as they are in the tallest building.. DC Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > I'm watching it at home, it's amazing - I can't believe this is > happening - BOTH WORD TRADE CENTRES HAVE COLLAPSED!!! This is beyond > words... > > God please be with all those who have family in effected areas > tonight... > > AC > > Andrew wrote: > > > > This is an extremely serious and tragic event. Please do not create humor > > here. > > > > Our thoughts are with all those affected by this. > > > > (Say a prayer for them all) > > > > Macca > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John Graham > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:55 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > > Yep...flaming nasty......anyone for a world war????front row centre seats > > > here.....(had to put a little bit of humour here) > > > John from Ballina > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David Carroll" > > > To: "Aussie Weather" > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:43 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > > > > > > > If anyone hasnt already seen the late night news.. > > > > > > > > 2 airlineers have crashed into world trade centre buildings in NY. > > > > > > > > A third attack just been done on Pentagon.. > > > > > > > > DAve > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:17:14 +1000 From: Andrew Miskelly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've never seen anything remotely as horrific as this. The world will never be the same after today. David Carroll wrote: > > more unconfirmed reports from alt.disasters.aviation that 2 aircraft > have crashed at Altanta . > > This is truely shocking. !!! > > Simon Angell wrote: > > > > And there could be a fourth plane heading for washington!!!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Graham" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:55 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > > Yep...flaming nasty......anyone for a world war????front row centre seats > > > here.....(had to put a little bit of humour here) > > > John from Ballina > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David Carroll" > > > To: "Aussie Weather" > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:43 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > > > > > > > If anyone hasnt already seen the late night news.. > > > > > > > > 2 airlineers have crashed into world trade centre buildings in NY. > > > > > > > > A third attack just been done on Pentagon.. > > > > > > > > DAve > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:21:49 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A few of us were on IRC watching channel 10 news when it broke near the end of the bulletin, then saw the plane crash live into the 2nd building, then the buildings collapse... absolutly sickening. Will remember where we were when this occured for the rest of our lives. Words cannot describe.... poor victims. Matthew Smith David Carroll wrote: > more unconfirmed reports from alt.disasters.aviation that 2 aircraft > have crashed at Altanta . > > This is truely shocking. !!! > > Simon Angell wrote: > > > > And there could be a fourth plane heading for washington!!!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Graham" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:55 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > > Yep...flaming nasty......anyone for a world war????front row centre seats > > > here.....(had to put a little bit of humour here) > > > John from Ballina > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David Carroll" > > > To: "Aussie Weather" > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:43 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > > > > > > > If anyone hasnt already seen the late night news.. > > > > > > > > 2 airlineers have crashed into world trade centre buildings in NY. > > > > > > > > A third attack just been done on Pentagon.. > > > > > > > > DAve > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Craig Arthur" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 04:29:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just got into work and found out this news, I can't believe it !!! Watching the coverage on ABC (US) and Senator John McCain called it an act of war - a very scary time to be in the States, or anywhere in the world... All our thoughts are with the victims and families in this horriffic event Craig Arthur ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Smith To: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:21 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > A few of us were on IRC watching channel 10 news when it broke near the end of the > bulletin, then saw the plane crash live into the 2nd building, then the buildings > collapse... absolutly sickening. > Will remember where we were when this occured for the rest of our lives. > > Words cannot describe.... poor victims. > > Matthew Smith > > > David Carroll wrote: > > > more unconfirmed reports from alt.disasters.aviation that 2 aircraft > > have crashed at Altanta . > > > > This is truely shocking. !!! > > > > Simon Angell wrote: > > > > > > And there could be a fourth plane heading for washington!!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John Graham" > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:55 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > > > > Yep...flaming nasty......anyone for a world war????front row centre seats > > > > here.....(had to put a little bit of humour here) > > > > John from Ballina > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "David Carroll" > > > > To: "Aussie Weather" > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:43 PM > > > > Subject: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone hasnt already seen the late night news.. > > > > > > > > > > 2 airlineers have crashed into world trade centre buildings in NY. > > > > > > > > > > A third attack just been done on Pentagon.. > > > > > > > > > > DAve > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p167-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.167] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 04:57:21 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I am devastated about this. I awoke before 5am - I felt an unusual that I could not sleep - woke up two times. But I never expected this tragedy. I don't know what to write from here. Jimmy Deguara At 04:29 AM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >Just got into work and found out this news, I can't believe it !!! > Watching the coverage on ABC (US) and Senator John McCain called it an act >of war - a very scary time to be in the States, or anywhere in the world... > >All our thoughts are with the victims and families in this horriffic event > >Craig Arthur > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Matthew Smith >To: >Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:21 AM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > > > A few of us were on IRC watching channel 10 news when it broke near the >end of the > > bulletin, then saw the plane crash live into the 2nd building, then the >buildings > > collapse... absolutly sickening. > > Will remember where we were when this occured for the rest of our lives. > > > > Words cannot describe.... poor victims. > > > > Matthew Smith > > > > > > David Carroll wrote: > > > > > more unconfirmed reports from alt.disasters.aviation that 2 aircraft > > > have crashed at Altanta . > > > > > > This is truely shocking. !!! > > > > > > Simon Angell wrote: > > > > > > > > And there could be a fourth plane heading for washington!!!!! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "John Graham" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:55 PM > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > > > > > > Yep...flaming nasty......anyone for a world war????front row centre >seats > > > > > here.....(had to put a little bit of humour here) > > > > > John from Ballina > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "David Carroll" > > > > > To: "Aussie Weather" > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:43 PM > > > > > Subject: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone hasnt already seen the late night news.. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 airlineers have crashed into world trade centre buildings in NY. > > > > > > > > > > > > A third attack just been done on Pentagon.. > > > > > > > > > > > > DAve > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body >of > > > > your > > > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 06:39:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com RE: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash

This is just a a Tom Clancy novel. Just found out about it after getting soaked riding to work. Definately shaken up, the world will never be the same, I only hope this is the worst story that I get to hear about in my lifetime, but there will probably be some huge implications to come from this. All our thoughts are definately with those affected.

Andrew Godsman

-----Original Message-----
From: Jimmy Deguara [mailto:jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 4:57
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash


I am devastated about this. I awoke before 5am - I felt an unusual that I
could not sleep - woke up two times. But I never expected this tragedy.

I don't know what to write from here.

Jimmy Deguara

At 04:29 AM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote:
>Just got into work and found out this news, I can't believe it !!!
>  Watching the coverage on ABC (US) and Senator John McCain called it an act
>of war - a very scary time to be in the States, or anywhere in the world...
>
>All our thoughts are with the victims and families in this horriffic event
>
>Craig Arthur
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Matthew Smith <tornado at cnn.net.au>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:21 AM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash
>
>
> >
> > A few of us were on IRC watching channel 10 news when it broke near the
>end of the
> > bulletin, then saw the plane crash live into the 2nd building, then the
>buildings
> > collapse... absolutly sickening.
> > Will remember where we were when this occured for the rest of our lives.
> >
> > Words cannot describe.... poor victims.
> >
> > Matthew Smith
> >
> >
> > David Carroll wrote:
> >
> > > more unconfirmed reports from alt.disasters.aviation that 2 aircraft
> > > have crashed at Altanta .
> > >
> > > This is truely shocking. !!!
> > >
> > > Simon Angell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And there could be a fourth plane heading for washington!!!!!
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "John Graham" <gorzzzz at dingoblue.net.au>
> > > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:55 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash
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> > > > > Yep...flaming nasty......anyone for a world war????front row centre
>seats
> > > > > here.....(had to put a little bit of humour here)
> > > > > John from Ballina
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "David Carroll" <davidkc at hotkey.net.au>
> > > > > To: "Aussie Weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:43 PM
> > > > > Subject: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If anyone hasnt already seen the late night news..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2 airlineers have crashed into world trade centre buildings in NY.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A third attack just been done on Pentagon..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > DAve
> > > > > >
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X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 06:58:56 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm stunned and shocked by this news. You see this sort of stuff in films but for it to happen for real is devastating. For me it will be like the day the shuttle exploded, by far more serious, they are saying 10,000 dead At 04:57 AM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >I am devastated about this. I awoke before 5am - I felt an unusual that I >could not sleep - woke up two times. But I never expected this tragedy. > >I don't know what to write from here. > >Jimmy Deguara > >At 04:29 AM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >>Just got into work and found out this news, I can't believe it !!! >> Watching the coverage on ABC (US) and Senator John McCain called it an act >>of war - a very scary time to be in the States, or anywhere in the world... >> >>All our thoughts are with the victims and families in this horriffic event >> >>Craig Arthur ============================================================= Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW http://www.lightningphotography.com/ ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ============================================================= +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay Organization: Davsoft To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:17:09 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Wednesday 12 September 2001 06:58, Michael Bath hit his keyboard with his head and the result was this: > I'm stunned and shocked by this news. You see this sort of stuff in films > but for it to happen for real is devastating. > > For me it will be like the day the shuttle exploded, by far more serious, > they are saying 10,000 dead And i think the reprucussions will be bigger. It's not called the Trade centre for nothing. What will this do to the world economy? David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p167-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.167] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:30:52 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dear all, I actually had to go downstairs to see what was going on. I am still in shock. Sometimes I wished the media was not so involved to now involve so many people around the world watch it happen live. I don't know what can be done and how this can be approached but I can now see huge implications out of this "incident". Let alone the economic implications. This is an extremely saddened day for all humans. Something has to be done to help restore peace. Again, I find it difficult to find words to type. Jimmy Deguara At 06:58 AM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >I'm stunned and shocked by this news. You see this sort of stuff in films >but for it to happen for real is devastating. > >For me it will be like the day the shuttle exploded, by far more serious, >they are saying 10,000 dead > >At 04:57 AM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >>I am devastated about this. I awoke before 5am - I felt an unusual that I >>could not sleep - woke up two times. But I never expected this tragedy. >> >>I don't know what to write from here. >> >>Jimmy Deguara >> >>At 04:29 AM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >>>Just got into work and found out this news, I can't believe it !!! >>> Watching the coverage on ABC (US) and Senator John McCain called it an act >>>of war - a very scary time to be in the States, or anywhere in the world... >>> >>>All our thoughts are with the victims and families in this horriffic event >>> >>>Craig Arthur > > > ============================================================= > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW http://www.lightningphotography.com/ > ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > ============================================================= > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:44:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm finding it difficult to put my feelings into words except to say that my heart goes out to everyone who has been touched in any way by this tragedy. Jane ONeill On Wednesday 12 September 2001 06:58, Michael Bath hit his keyboard with his head and the result was this: > I'm stunned and shocked by this news. You see this sort of stuff in films > but for it to happen for real is devastating. > > For me it will be like the day the shuttle exploded, by far more serious, > they are saying 10,000 dead And i think the reprucussions will be bigger. It's not called the Trade centre for nothing. What will this do to the world economy? David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Data Loss To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:22:13 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Following the sudden closure of Nobbys Head (Newcastle) after over 100 > years of data, Newcastle was left without a long term climate station... > Newcastle Uni is a relatively new site. This happened on 18 June. > > Apparently, Liverpool closed today after close on 40 years. So, no more > manuel obs from Sydney's SW but at least the area is relatively well off > with Holsworthy, Horsley Park, Badgerys Creek and Bankstown. I wonder if > the BoM forecasts will cease until Liverpool now. > > Don White Apparently the Liverpool site was bulldozed without warning for a redevelopment - the Bureau found out just in time to retrieve their instruments. I get the impression my NSW colleagues are not particularly impressed :-) The note on our stations database says that a new site will be opened when one can be found. I seem to recall that the problem with Nobbys was that the staff were being withdrawn and we couldn't reach an agreement with the land manager (Port of Newcastle?) for an AWS installation, but I'm not 100% sure about this. It's a very long record - 140 years - and losing it is a great pity. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: NinnesM at franklins.com.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Sydney this morning Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:34:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, A little lightning to the south of Wentworthville this morning at 2:15am. Woke up this morning to see some nice towers firing off the coast to the SE, and also some to the west. 10:30am right now, some of those cells in the west are tracking in an easterly direction, and just received news of small (< 2cm) hail at Edensor Park in SW Sydney. Of course these things will absolutely go off today, didn't have time to grab the camera this morning. Grr! Mal Ninnes Western Sydney +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: NSW coast. Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:50:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2001 00:51:22.0860 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B115AC0:01C13B25] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Looks to be the potential for some impressive rainfall totals south of Kiama today associated with the wrap around band working into the low pressure system west of SYD, also yet another baroclinic cloud band developing along the sub trop jet extending across the Pilburra this area seems activated by a low moving into the western Aus Bight region.regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Chambers" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: US Terroist Attacks Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:55:06 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all I would like to echo everyone's sentiments to say that our thoughts are with all victims of the horrible events in the US as well as their friends and family. Even 12 hours after the attacks, it is still very hard to believe what actually happened. The video footage was just like the worst disaster movie ever seen - if only it was a movie. One particular piece of footage showed the 2nd plane going straight into the building like a stone through mud. Of course the explosions followed. I first turned on the TV *just* after the 2nd plane hit the WTC. Of course after that came the crash at the Pentagon, then the building collapses, then the other plane crash. It's a sad day. Regards James Chambers +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: "Australian Severe Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Storm Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:02:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dear All, Looks like we are about to get rained out in Mona Vale. The storm has grown into a mammoth thing in the hour since 10 am - now 11 am. We are now having increasing thunder but the temperature is still quite warm. Judy Mayo +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: NinnesM at franklins.com.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: NSW coast. (and Sydney storms) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:05:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes Clyve, earlier on radar you could see the wrap-around, almost like a line of convergence along the coast as coastal cells (100km SE of Sydney) tracked South, and cells over the western suburbs tracked east, then SE. Almost looks like the western sydney cells will converge on the CBD :) Also just in - confirmed reports of hail approx 1cm at Circular Quay. Malcolm Ninnes Unix Systems Admin National Technical Services - Franklins Ltd Ph. (02) 9722-1862 ninnesm at franklins.com.au > ---------- > From: clyve herbert[SMTP:mesof5 at iprimus.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 10:50 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: NSW coast. > > Hi all. > Looks to be the potential for some impressive rainfall totals south of > Kiama > today associated with the wrap around band working into the low pressure > system west of SYD, also yet another baroclinic cloud band developing > along > the sub trop jet extending across the Pilburra this area seems activated > by > a low moving into the western Aus Bight region.regards Clyve H. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Tim Grugeon" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:10:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I think I am really in too much of shock to even be able to describe this incident. We got a phone call at midnight by a relative who told us all to put the TV on. Not long after we put the TV on, the second tower that was struck by a plane had collapsed. Soon as this happened our hearts just stopped. It seems as though I was the only one to get at least a few hours sleep last night in this household. Preys go out to all. Cheers, Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > I'm finding it difficult to put my feelings into words except to say that my > heart goes out to everyone who has been touched in any way by this tragedy. > > Jane ONeill > > > > On Wednesday 12 September 2001 06:58, Michael Bath hit his keyboard with his > head and the result was this: > > I'm stunned and shocked by this news. You see this sort of stuff in films > > but for it to happen for real is devastating. > > > > For me it will be like the day the shuttle exploded, by far more serious, > > they are saying 10,000 dead > > And i think the reprucussions will be bigger. It's not called the Trade > centre for nothing. What will this do to the world economy? > > David > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: NinnesM at franklins.com.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: 0030UTC GMS5 pic (gmsd) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:20:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all again. Sorry for spamming everyones mailbox today, but isn't that what aus-wx is for? :-) Just wondering what GMS5 pics have been like lately (haven't been following satpics much over the past week). I noticed that todays 0030Z pic from GMS5 (gmsd.jpg) chops off Australia from Darwin down...pretty crappy. I hope things improve (from a satellite image perspective) for summer! Does anyone on the list have any more information about current GMS5 status and expected 'useful' lifetime, and/or information about moving GOES8 to provide redundant (or eventually primary) coverage? Malcolm Ninnes Unix Systems Admin National Technical Services - Franklins Ltd Ph. (02) 9722-1862 ninnesm at franklins.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean McWhinney" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: US Terroist Attacks Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:18:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com this is such a sad day for the world just pray for the ppl and for peace not war my thoughts are with the people who have lost friends and family ----- Original Message ----- From: James Chambers To: Aussie Weather Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: aus-wx: US Terroist Attacks > Hi all > > I would like to echo everyone's sentiments to say that our thoughts are with > all victims of the horrible events in the US as well as their friends and > family. > > Even 12 hours after the attacks, it is still very hard to believe what > actually happened. The video footage was just like the worst disaster movie > ever seen - if only it was a movie. One particular piece of footage showed > the 2nd plane going straight into the building like a stone through mud. Of > course the explosions followed. > > I first turned on the TV *just* after the 2nd plane hit the WTC. Of course > after that came the crash at the Pentagon, then the building collapses, then > the other plane crash. > > It's a sad day. > > Regards > James Chambers > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [155.144.17.252] From: "Simon" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:31:24 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2001 01:31:24.0735 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2B264F0:01C13B2A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

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QUOTE: And i think the reprucussions will be bigger. It's not called the Trade
centre for nothing. What will this do to the world economy?
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Gold and oil prices have just gone up and many other things have gone down in the Australian Market (QANTAS's profits from yesterday's rise have just dropped by the same amount today).

My friend in the US said that Petrol has gone from $2.00 a gallon to $4.00 a gallon in hours.

I'd keep a watch on our fuel prices too...



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X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:31:41 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: 0030UTC GMS5 pic (gmsd) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com There are links to info at the top of this page: http://australiasevereweather.com/links/ozsatpic.htm 0030 on GMSD = 01z image which is not available anymore - until a new satellite is launched. regards, Michael At 11:20 AM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >Hi all again. Sorry for spamming everyones mailbox today, but isn't that >what aus-wx is for? :-) > >Just wondering what GMS5 pics have been like lately (haven't been following >satpics much over the past week). I noticed that todays 0030Z pic from GMS5 >(gmsd.jpg) chops off Australia from Darwin down...pretty crappy. I hope >things improve (from a satellite image perspective) for summer! > >Does anyone on the list have any more information about current GMS5 status >and expected 'useful' lifetime, and/or information about moving GOES8 to >provide redundant (or eventually primary) coverage? > > >Malcolm Ninnes >Unix Systems Admin >National Technical Services - Franklins Ltd >Ph. (02) 9722-1862 >ninnesm at franklins.com.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ============================================================= Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW http://www.lightningphotography.com/ ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ============================================================= +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: RE: aus-wx: US Terrorist Attacks Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:28:15 +1000 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: aus-wx: US Terroist Attacks Thread-Index: AcE7J3pKvYoU09C2QxqMVFiIDteAAAAAoS+Q From: "Allison Cunnington" To: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id VAA09580 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Have to agree - a very sad day for all, especially those injured and the families of those killed. Our thoughts are with them. Allison -----Original Message----- From: James Chambers [mailto:jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 10:55 To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: US Terroist Attacks Hi all I would like to echo everyone's sentiments to say that our thoughts are with all victims of the horrible events in the US as well as their friends and family. Even 12 hours after the attacks, it is still very hard to believe what actually happened. The video footage was just like the worst disaster movie ever seen - if only it was a movie. One particular piece of footage showed the 2nd plane going straight into the building like a stone through mud. Of course the explosions followed. I first turned on the TV *just* after the 2nd plane hit the WTC. Of course after that came the crash at the Pentagon, then the building collapses, then the other plane crash. It's a sad day. Regards James Chambers +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ###################################################################### Attention: This e-mail message is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. This e-mail has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com ###################################################################### ##################################################################################### This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: "Australian Severe Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Storm Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:18:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well the storm came and went in a big rush. It brought us strong wind, 6 mm rain, and some very small hail. Judy Mayo +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Heath Costello" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: US Terrorist Attacks Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:44:54 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It is a very sad day not just here but all over. what made me even angrier and upset was the pics they showed from the west bank of those people in the midst of celebrations of what had happened in America. Also alot of the emergancy workers were killed for just doing their job when the building collapsed. Although this is my first ever message on this group, i am far from in the mood of celebration Heath Costello Casino NSW +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: major storm - Sydney To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 From: "David Carroll" Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:49:20 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Domino/Advance(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 12/09/2001 10:49:21 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI All. Major cells in Sydney area, Penrith.. just had phone call from friend on road.. radio scanner tells of storm hit around Camden area. Very heavy rain falling around Campsie. Lightning tracker shows lightning off the coast of sydney.. Radar showing pink/green Penrith area cell moving to coast.. Dave Bathurst ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: major storm - Sydney Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:39:26 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The Sydney 256km radar is worth a look right now (1.40pm EST), clearly showing the circulation around the low south of Sydney. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of David Carroll > Sent: Wednesday, 12 September, 2001 10:49 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: major storm - Sydney > > > HI All. > > Major cells in Sydney area, Penrith.. just had phone call from friend on > road.. radio scanner tells of storm hit around Camden area. Very heavy > rain falling around Campsie. Lightning tracker shows lightning off the > coast of sydney.. > > Radar showing pink/green Penrith area cell moving to coast.. > > Dave > Bathurst > > > ################################################################## > ################### > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete > it and notify the > sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the > individual sender, and are > not necessarily the views of Country Energy. > ################################################################## > ################### > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:08:52 -0400 From: David Hart To: Subject: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:01:00 +0930 From: Paul.Mossman at nt.gov.au Subject: Terrorist Attack What a sad day. My heartfelt apologies go to the US...families, friends and country. All I can say to all: make sure you know where your going???.. in the afterlife or whatever you call it. Please?? I think regardless of whatever is wrong or right John Howard should be congratulated for not allowing those boat people to land here. You can never be too sure anymore ? especially from hereon?. PS Darwin is a little edgy here this morning ? we had 4,500 US Sailors here and they did the bolt as soon as they heard the news. Paul. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:06:42 -0400 (EDT) From: David Hart Apparently-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Received: from TheWorld.com (pcls2.std.com [199.172.62.104]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA10679 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from new-smtp2.ihug.com.au (new-smtp2.ihug.com.au [203.109.250.28]) by TheWorld.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01899 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:26:43 -0400 Received: from ihug.com.au (p135-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.140.135]) by new-smtp2.ihug.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA03579 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:26:37 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p135-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.140.135] claimed to be ihug.com.au Message-ID: <3B9EC7E3.BA7DC12C at ihug.com.au> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:26:43 +1000 From: spiraldive69 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash References: <3B9E14F8.59DF3D94 at hotkey.net.au> <000501c13ac9$7262ce40$26128ec6 at john> <000f01c13ace$316ebf20$ed2554d2 at simon> <3B9E235E.E52A3927 at hotkey.net.au> <3B9E2C0C.3DF96D0A at cnn.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am reminded of Admiral Yamamoto's statement after the reports came in to his headquarters of the scale of the unprecedented and unexpected completeness of the success of the attack on Pearl Harbour. Having twice held naval attaché positions within the Japanese embassy in the U.S. Capitol, he knew well the industrial strength, material wealth and temperament of the United States. Upon completion of the attack he is quoted as saying:- "We have awakened a sleeping giant and have instilled in him a terrible resolve." There are indications already that US retribution will be severe. PC +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p179-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.140.179] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:27:09 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: major storm - Sydney Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Another 1pm chart. Laurier Williams wrote: > The Sydney 256km radar is worth a look right now (1.40pm EST), clearly > showing the circulation around the low south of Sydney. > > Laurier > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of David Carroll > > Sent: Wednesday, 12 September, 2001 10:49 AM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: aus-wx: major storm - Sydney > > > > > > HI All. > > > > Major cells in Sydney area, Penrith.. just had phone call from friend on > > road.. radio scanner tells of storm hit around Camden area. Very heavy > > rain falling around Campsie. Lightning tracker shows lightning off the > > coast of sydney.. > > > > Radar showing pink/green Penrith area cell moving to coast.. > > > > Dave > > Bathurst > > > > > > ################################################################## > > ################### > > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > > confidential > > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete > > it and notify the > > sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the > > individual sender, and are > > not necessarily the views of Country Energy. > > ################################################################## > > ################### > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\1PM_Low2.gif" From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:52:35 +1000 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Paul You comments regarding the boatpeople would have to be the most ignorant and xenophobic I have every heard you utter. You only have to think about it for 60 seconds to realise your logic is totally flaed. The people in those boats are trying to ESCAPE the kind of opression and horror we are seeing in the middle east currently. Recent events should only heighten our awareness that if we don't help these people and confront the terror head on then we are doomed to observe it expand closer to our doors. I can't see any logic in connecting the boat people's situation and the bombing in the USA. To do so is only to fuel the fires of irrational hatred that have caused this human devastation. Mark Hardy -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of David Hart Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 2:09 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:01:00 +0930 From: Paul.Mossman at nt.gov.au Subject: Terrorist Attack What a sad day. My heartfelt apologies go to the US...families, friends and country. All I can say to all: make sure you know where your going???.. in the afterlife or whatever you call it. Please?? I think regardless of whatever is wrong or right John Howard should be congratulated for not allowing those boat people to land here. You can never be too sure anymore ? especially from hereon?. PS Darwin is a little edgy here this morning ? we had 4,500 US Sailors here and they did the bolt as soon as they heard the news. Paul. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: SHELDON Bill To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:18:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Agree wholeheartedly Mark - I add that the CIA actually armed and supported the Taliban for years in their war against the Russians (as they did with the Bath Party of Suddam Hussein). To confuse the Afghan refugees with the Taliban (and even to condemn the Taliban for the terrorist atrocity in the US without any evidence at this stage) is to perpetuate such cycles of ignorance, bigotry and violence. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hardy [mailto:mhardy at magna.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 2:53 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd) Paul You comments regarding the boatpeople would have to be the most ignorant and xenophobic I have every heard you utter. You only have to think about it for 60 seconds to realise your logic is totally flaed. The people in those boats are trying to ESCAPE the kind of opression and horror we are seeing in the middle east currently. Recent events should only heighten our awareness that if we don't help these people and confront the terror head on then we are doomed to observe it expand closer to our doors. I can't see any logic in connecting the boat people's situation and the bombing in the USA. To do so is only to fuel the fires of irrational hatred that have caused this human devastation. Mark Hardy -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of David Hart Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 2:09 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:01:00 +0930 From: Paul.Mossman at nt.gov.au Subject: Terrorist Attack What a sad day. My heartfelt apologies go to the US...families, friends and country. All I can say to all: make sure you know where your going???.. in the afterlife or whatever you call it. Please?? I think regardless of whatever is wrong or right John Howard should be congratulated for not allowing those boat people to land here. You can never be too sure anymore ? especially from hereon?. PS Darwin is a little edgy here this morning ? we had 4,500 US Sailors here and they did the bolt as soon as they heard the news. Paul. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Carolyn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:57:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have long been home, and I too was socked when I saw the news at 11.30pm last night. I watched in abject horror at what had happened. Not only was it devestating enough when the planes crashed, but then the Trade Centre went down as well right on to those trying to help. It has been one very long day of imense horror world wide. My mother made the comment that the only other thing she can liken it to was when JFK was shot. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:58 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > I'm stunned and shocked by this news. You see this sort of stuff in films > but for it to happen for real is devastating. > > For me it will be like the day the shuttle exploded, by far more serious, > they are saying 10,000 dead > > At 04:57 AM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: > >I am devastated about this. I awoke before 5am - I felt an unusual that I > >could not sleep - woke up two times. But I never expected this tragedy. > > > >I don't know what to write from here. > > > >Jimmy Deguara > > > >At 04:29 AM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: > >>Just got into work and found out this news, I can't believe it !!! > >> Watching the coverage on ABC (US) and Senator John McCain called it an act > >>of war - a very scary time to be in the States, or anywhere in the world... > >> > >>All our thoughts are with the victims and families in this horriffic event > >> > >>Craig Arthur > > > ============================================================= > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW http://www.lightningphotography.com/ > ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > ============================================================= > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [202.5.161.1] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: unusual warm temps in Coffs Hbr Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:11:37 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2001 07:11:38.0118 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A057260:01C13B5A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I know that there is a significant westerly airflow over nthn NSW at the moment from the influence of the low near Sydney, but i'm still a little surprised at the Coffs Harbour temperature at the moment (even though its now dropped to 23) was a good 26 degrees at 3 - 4pm. Coffs had the 2nd or 3rd highest temperature in NE NSW during the afternoon (which is very unusual). I personally could feel that it was relatively humid as well. Any other thoughts on this??? (currently at 5:10pm its 24 degrees) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:36:07 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2001 07:36:07.0416 (UTC) FILETIME=[95CA8780:01C13B5D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

I don't want to engage in a political debate in this forum but this post (below) can't go unchallenged.

The Afghans in the boats have been fleeing from a regime which gives succour to people like Bin Laden, the main suspect for these preposterous acts.  They represent no greater terrorist threat to this country, than any other refugee or person seeking refugee status.

So please don't lump these poor unfortunates in with the Talibans, a repressive harsh regime which rules that country and supports terrorists like Bin Laden; a regime which treats women worse than domestic animals and creates an atmosphere that makes the poor blighted boat people seek some sort of better life. 

My thoughts too have been with bereaved and dead.

I don't want to seem flippant but the footage, from below, of the plane entering the second tower, was pure Alice in Wonderland, through the looking glass, stuff.  Unfortunately though,  it was no fantasy.

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>Subject: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd)
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>Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:01:00 +0930
>From: Paul.Mossman at nt.gov.au
>Subject: Terrorist Attack
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>What a sad day. My heartfelt apologies go to the US...families, friends and
>country.
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>All I can say to all:
>make sure you know where your going???.. in the afterlife or whatever you call
>it. Please??
>
>I think regardless of whatever is wrong or right John Howard should be
>congratulated for not allowing those boat people to land here. You can never be
>too sure anymore ? especially from hereon?.
>
>PS Darwin is a little edgy here this morning ? we had 4,500 US Sailors here and
>they did the bolt as soon as they heard the news.
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>Paul.
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From: "Peter Matters" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:50:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I, write with tears in my eyes, that I am ashamed to be Human:-((((((((((((((((((((( Peter -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 16:58 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash I have long been home, and I too was socked when I saw the news at 11.30pm last night. I watched in abject horror at what had happened. Not only was it devestating enough when the planes crashed, but then the Trade Centre went down as well right on to those trying to help. It has been one very long day of imense horror world wide. My mother made the comment that the only other thing she can liken it to was when JFK was shot. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:58 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > I'm stunned and shocked by this news. You see this sort of stuff in films > but for it to happen for real is devastating. > > For me it will be like the day the shuttle exploded, by far more serious, > they are saying 10,000 dead > > At 04:57 AM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: > >I am devastated about this. I awoke before 5am - I felt an unusual that I > >could not sleep - woke up two times. But I never expected this tragedy. > > > >I don't know what to write from here. > > > >Jimmy Deguara > > > >At 04:29 AM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: > >>Just got into work and found out this news, I can't believe it !!! > >> Watching the coverage on ABC (US) and Senator John McCain called it an act > >>of war - a very scary time to be in the States, or anywhere in the world... > >> > >>All our thoughts are with the victims and families in this horriffic event > >> > >>Craig Arthur > > > ============================================================= > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW http://www.lightningphotography.com/ > ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > ============================================================= > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:09:07 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Michael – how can you be sure who or where those people come from?

 

Think about it. Just cause it looks like it – things can be very deceiving.

 

I know for one that Id rather reject a boatload of people we cant be sure about , then wake up to see what has happened in US.

 

And Yes I reckon there is a correlation.

 

Paul.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of michael king
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:06 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd)

 

I don't want to engage in a political debate in this forum but this post (below) can't go unchallenged.

The Afghans in the boats have been fleeing from a regime which gives succour to people like Bin Laden, the main suspect for these preposterous acts.  They represent no greater terrorist threat to this country, than any other refugee or person seeking refugee status.

So please don't lump these poor unfortunates in with the Talibans, a repressive harsh regime which rules that country and supports terrorists like Bin Laden; a regime which treats women worse than domestic animals and creates an atmosphere that makes the poor blighted boat people seek some sort of better life. 

My thoughts too have been with bereaved and dead.

I don't want to seem flippant but the footage, from below, of the plane entering the second tower, was pure Alice in Wonderland, through the looking glass, stuff.  Unfortunately though,  it was no fantasy.

>From: David Hart

>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

>To:

>Subject: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd)

>Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:08:52 -0400

>

>

>

>

>---------- Forwarded message ----------

>Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:01:00 +0930

>From: Paul.Mossman at nt.gov.au

>Subject: Terrorist Attack

>

>What a sad day. My heartfelt apologies go to the US...families, friends and

>country.

>

>All I can say to all:

>make sure you know where your going???.. in the afterlife or whatever you call

>it. Please??

>

>I think regardless of whatever is wrong or right John Howard should be

>congratulated for not allowing those boat people to land here. You can never be

>too sure anymore ? especially from hereon?.

>

>PS Darwin is a little edgy here this morning ? we had 4,500 US Sailors here and

>they did the bolt as soon as they heard the news.

>

>Paul.

>

>

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From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:48:46 +1000 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
The previous worst act of terrorism in the US was committed by a US citizen. Are we to then assume all US citizens as high risk terrorists. Of course it's ludicrous. But that's the line of logic you are taking when you start to pigeon-hole people's capacity for evil acts based entirely on race. Bin Laden and Timothy Mc Veigh - both terrorists in the extreme but you can't assume their traits extend to everybody of the same nationality. A boatload of Afghans fleeing terror is likely to contain the same spectrum of human traits as a jumbo load of Japanese fleeing work-stress. True, we can't be sure about anybody who enters this country. But when we make the distinction based on race we are treading on dangerous ground.
 
Mark Hardy
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mossman
Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 6:39 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd)

Michael – how can you be sure who or where those people come from?

 

Think about it. Just cause it looks like it – things can be very deceiving.

 

I know for one that Id rather reject a boatload of people we cant be sure about , then wake up to see what has happened in US.

 

And Yes I reckon there is a correlation.

 

Paul.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of michael king
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:06 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd)

 

I don't want to engage in a political debate in this forum but this post (below) can't go unchallenged.

The Afghans in the boats have been fleeing from a regime which gives succour to people like Bin Laden, the main suspect for these preposterous acts.  They represent no greater terrorist threat to this country, than any other refugee or person seeking refugee status.

So please don't lump these poor unfortunates in with the Talibans, a repressive harsh regime which rules that country and supports terrorists like Bin Laden; a regime which treats women worse than domestic animals and creates an atmosphere that makes the poor blighted boat people seek some sort of better life. 

My thoughts too have been with bereaved and dead.

I don't want to seem flippant but the footage, from below, of the plane entering the second tower, was pure Alice in Wonderland, through the looking glass, stuff.  Unfortunately though,  it was no fantasy.

>From: David Hart

>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

>To:

>Subject: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd)

>Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:08:52 -0400

>

>

>

>

>---------- Forwarded message ----------

>Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:01:00 +0930

>From: Paul.Mossman at nt.gov.au

>Subject: Terrorist Attack

>

>What a sad day. My heartfelt apologies go to the US...families, friends and

>country.

>

>All I can say to all:

>make sure you know where your going???.. in the afterlife or whatever you call

>it. Please??

>

>I think regardless of whatever is wrong or right John Howard should be

>congratulated for not allowing those boat people to land here. You can never be

>too sure anymore ? especially from hereon?.

>

>PS Darwin is a little edgy here this morning ? we had 4,500 US Sailors here and

>they did the bolt as soon as they heard the news.

>

>Paul.

>

>

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From: "Bussie" To: Subject: aus-wx: Seen a lot in 40 years, but...... Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:59:01 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've seen a lot in my near 40 years on this earth but never anything as devastating as this. The last 40 years have been good but I'm not sure now about the next 40. You have to feel for these innocent people. :-( Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:58 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash > I'm stunned and shocked by this news. You see this sort of stuff in films > but for it to happen for real is devastating. > > For me it will be like the day the shuttle exploded, by far more serious, > they are saying 10,000 dead > > At 04:57 AM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: > >I am devastated about this. I awoke before 5am - I felt an unusual that I > >could not sleep - woke up two times. But I never expected this tragedy. > > > >I don't know what to write from here. > > > >Jimmy Deguara > > > >At 04:29 AM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: > >>Just got into work and found out this news, I can't believe it !!! > >> Watching the coverage on ABC (US) and Senator John McCain called it an act > >>of war - a very scary time to be in the States, or anywhere in the world... > >> > >>All our thoughts are with the victims and families in this horriffic event > >> > >>Craig Arthur > > > ============================================================= > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW http://www.lightningphotography.com/ > ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > ============================================================= > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:00:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Michael – how can you be sure who or where those people come from?

 

Think about it. Just cause it looks like it – things can be very deceiving.

I know that Americans partook in terrorist activities in the past, yet you're not asking for the banning of Americans from our shores.
 
Your views on this are yours, please leave them to yourself as those views are seen by others to be wrong and racist. If you wish to continue this topic, do so in private email and not via the weather list.

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X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p465-tnt4.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.135.211] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:12:54 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: RE: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul Mirtschin,

I echo and support your feelings on this issue but I would not want to challenge freedom of speech (Paul Mossman) as happened in the past.

Jimmy Deguara

At 07:00 PM 12/9/2001 +1000, you wrote:
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Michael how can you be sure who or where those people come from?

 
Think about it. Just cause it looks like it things can be very deceiving.
I know that Americans partook in terrorist activities in the past, yet you're not asking for the banning of Americans from our shores.
 
Your views on this are yours, please leave them to yourself as those views are seen by others to be wrong and racist. If you wish to continue this topic, do so in private email and not via the weather list.

  --------------------------------------
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From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:01:48 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Paul - you are wrong.

 

I haven’t asked for anyone to be banned. Re-read my email. I just supported the Govt. who decided that it wanted to screen the people first before they arrived.

 

How is that racist? Typical response to start labelling people racist……..

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:31 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd)

 

Michael – how can you be sure who or where those people come from?

 

Think about it. Just cause it looks like it – things can be very deceiving.

I know that Americans partook in terrorist activities in the past, yet you're not asking for the banning of Americans from our shores.

 

Your views on this are yours, please leave them to yourself as those views are seen by others to be wrong and racist. If you wish to continue this topic, do so in private email and not via the weather list.

  --------------------------------------
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From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Intolerance Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 19:28:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A few words that I found that I think sum the situation up..... "Is there any message, any lesson, any moral to be drawn from these unspeakably evil developments? I am still wracking my brains and searching my soul. All I can think is that somehow, it serves to remind us all that our time on earth is fleeting. We none of us know how long it will last. We can none of us be sure that the familiar security of daily life will not be suddenly shattered. So, surely, we had better learn to live more lightly. We had better see each moment as a gift. We had better be grateful for each moment of time that we have, while we have it. And we had better pray just as hard for those who committed the crime as for those who suffered from it. For at the heart of this ugly event is the same poison that has been hurting humanity since the dawn of time. Intolerance." Courtesy J Cainer Jane (my thoughts also) -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.171.104.200] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: World gone mad... Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:11:13 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2001 10:11:14.0056 (UTC) FILETIME=[40FB1880:01C13B73] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, Well....wx obviously dull...international events unbelievable...response shocking (in the dictionary definition...related to shock).. My thoughts such as they are atm... 1. Terrorism = bad 2. bin Laden = very bad (see 1) 3. people who host ANY terrorists (viz. bin Laden) = equally bad 4. regardless of who perpetrated this atrocity there is NO excuse for harbouring or aiding these sorts of subhumans (terrorists) 5. to quote an anonymous American author, "Your right to swing your fists ends where my face begins!" 6. I do not blame anybody for suddenly being suspicious of anybody from regions where this sort of activity is a day-to-day nightmare...it's called PYA (Protect Your Arse) 7. oh yes....and WE'RE the dominant lifeform on this planet??? PHUK...God (or whatever) help us.... Kevin. P.S. There will probably be a less knee-jerk missive later but somehow I don't think so... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:16:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Paul - you are wrong.

 

I haven’t asked for anyone to be banned. Re-read my email. I just supported the Govt. who decided that it wanted to screen the people first before they arrived.

 

Not correct. The government has always screened asylum seekers, which is why they are incarcerated for approx. 2 years in detention centres before they have their applications processed. What the government has done (and what you agreed with) is the turning away of a small number of people fleeing a situation that you have no idea about. You also made a general assumption that the asylum seekers may include people that could perpetrate acts such as we have seen recently. That assumption is correct, as is the assumption that people on this list may be murderers, rapists, thieves etc.

 

How is that racist? Typical response to start labelling people racist……..

 

The act of turning away a group of people based on their race/colour reeks of bigotry. But then again, it's always been the Australian way.

 

What happened in the US was horrifying, but lets try to keep this list on topic. I'd rather read about weather here.

 

Pauly (freedom of speech does have limitations)

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X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:36:19 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: aus-wx: Lets not flame each other during this sad time Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, We are all shocked about what has happened in the United States, sending condolences to the list is fine, but please lets not flame each other. It's something we prefer not to see on the list, especially after something like this. Thanks. Jacob +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: meso at pop.iprimus.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:53:57 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Mal Ninnes Subject: aus-wx: Enough please X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2001 10:52:35.0742 (UTC) FILETIME=[082E53E0:01C13B79] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have been quiet for as long as I can manage. aus-wx is a list about WEATHER. If I want to read over 40 messages about the latest in America then I might visit cnn.com or subscribe to alt.terrorism...but I don't. I want to read about weather. If you have forgotten the guidelines then may I suggest you visit: http://members.iinet.net.au/~jacob/auswx.html I will also highlight points #1 and #10: 1. Subjects must relate to weather, however the very occasional off topic notice is ok, as long at it doesnt start a thread. 10. Don't get into arguements on the list, leave it to personal emails if you have to. The concept of free speech is fine. Flames and abusive emails about something completely offtopic is not. Let's get back to just talking about weather please. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Godsman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Intolerance Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:48:09 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, This topic is certainly stirring the emotions of us all, but one factor that I haven't herd anyone talking about here goes to show how quick we label. Yes, sure we all have thought of the Middle East as the most likely cause, but, has anyone thought of the other coincidences that revolve around Sept 11. S-11 last year was the first really organised rally against Globalisation and all that it stands for. This attack was cenred on the trade centre, but hitting the pentagon just might cause enough chaos to help people to get out of the limelight. But anyway, this is just another possibility which is why we need to stay from labelling and blaming until we know more. I know how hard this is as I too have battled with blame and the desire to strike out at this ugly side of humanity today. Lets please not destroy or alter relationships between list members over this, we are all entitled to our views. But think about, Janes post below sums things up all too well. How petty are the issues we deal with everyday that at times has us seeing red and wanting to let loose at someone. Todays event shuld help to put it all into perpestive, ie lets just get on with our life and look for the positives rather than dwell on the negatives. I used this type of thinking when my world seemed to fall apart some years ago after a messy divorce, loosing my house and facing the crippling world of child support for the next 17 years. But I would drive up to the lookout over wollongong and sit down and try to grasp just how many people were living below me and that my situation just can't even come close to the worst that is happening right then. This invariably made me feel a little better and now I have an entirely different outlook on life. The best part of the day is the one you force yourself out of bed to see (although morning t'storms aren't as common). And some of the best experiences in life are when most other people are huddled away. I ran home from work two weeks ago on a very wet afternoon. For one very happy hour it pelted down, and the heavier it rained the better I ran. I absolutely loved the freedom of being out there amongst it with everyone else looking through fogged up car windows or from house porches at this poor idiot who must be mad. Sorry to ramble on, but my point being that surely we can actually find some positive momentum to come from this evil. It is time for those in society who believe in kindness to their fellow neighbours to stand up and start showing the world that it isn't all about every (wo)man for themself, or being afraid to walk the streets at night. The actual person(s) who perpetuated this crime should be punished beyond belief but not other innocent people. Thanks for all who have read this and I hope you believe you can make a difference. I jst want to mention though that I am not a religous person, but these are the standards that I live my life by, and regardless of religous belief or not we will all be much happier if society functioned for the better good. Andrew Godsman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:28 PM Subject: aus-wx: Intolerance > A few words that I found that I think sum the situation up..... > > "Is there any message, any lesson, any moral to be drawn from these > unspeakably evil developments? I am still wracking my brains and > searching my soul. All I can think is that somehow, it serves to remind > us all that our time on earth is fleeting. We none of us know how long > it will last. We can none of us be sure that the familiar security of > daily life will not be suddenly shattered. So, surely, we had better > learn to live more lightly. We had better see each moment as a gift. We > had better be grateful for each moment of time that we have, while we > have it. And we had better pray just as hard for those who committed the > crime as for those who suffered from it. For at the heart of this ugly > event is the same poison that has been hurting humanity since the dawn > of time. Intolerance." > > Courtesy J Cainer > > Jane > (my thoughts also) > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:45:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Okay...guys,
 
Just my opinion, but lets drop all this bickering in respect for those who lost their lives in innocence
 
PaulY
 
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 20:17
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Terrorist Attack (fwd)

Paul - you are wrong.

 

I haven’t asked for anyone to be banned. Re-read my email. I just supported the Govt. who decided that it wanted to screen the people first before they arrived.

 

Not correct. The government has always screened asylum seekers, which is why they are incarcerated for approx. 2 years in detention centres before they have their applications processed. What the government has done (and what you agreed with) is the turning away of a small number of people fleeing a situation that you have no idea about. You also made a general assumption that the asylum seekers may include people that could perpetrate acts such as we have seen recently. That assumption is correct, as is the assumption that people on this list may be murderers, rapists, thieves etc.

 

How is that racist? Typical response to start labelling people racist……..

 

The act of turning away a group of people based on their race/colour reeks of bigotry. But then again, it's always been the Australian way.

 

What happened in the US was horrifying, but lets try to keep this list on topic. I'd rather read about weather here.

 

Pauly (freedom of speech does have limitations)

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From: "dann weatherhead" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough please Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:08:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes I agree with Mal. We all know this is a seminal moment in the worlds history, but this is a weather list, and discussions on the subject of the attacks are just inciting arguements that are totally unrelated to this list. Lets keep this a weather only zone, and leave the news of the world for cnn.com cheers dann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mal Ninnes" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:53 PM Subject: aus-wx: Enough please > I have been quiet for as long as I can manage. aus-wx is a list about > WEATHER. > > If I want to read over 40 messages about the latest in America then I might > visit cnn.com or subscribe to alt.terrorism...but I don't. I want to read > about weather. > > If you have forgotten the guidelines then may I suggest you visit: > http://members.iinet.net.au/~jacob/auswx.html > > I will also highlight points #1 and #10: > > 1. Subjects must relate to weather, however the very occasional off topic > notice is ok, as long at it doesnt start a thread. > > 10. Don't get into arguements on the list, leave it to personal emails if > you have to. > > The concept of free speech is fine. Flames and abusive emails about > something completely offtopic is not. > > Let's get back to just talking about weather please. > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Graham" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC. Major airline crash Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:22:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com [snip] exploded, by far more serious, > > they are saying 10,000 dead > > And i think the reprucussions will be bigger. It's not called the Trade > centre for nothing. What will this do to the world economy? > > David I think either one of two things.........a recession/depression or at the worst, a faaarking big war erupting in the Middle East +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay Organization: Davsoft To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough please Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:20:16 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Wednesday 12 September 2001 20:53, Mal Ninnes hit his keyboard with his head and the result was this: > I have been quiet for as long as I can manage. aus-wx is a list about > WEATHER. I echo this. Okay it's bad, but there comes a time when you got to stop beating a dead horse and move on. I wish there was something else to see on TV. Okay bring me the new stuff, and while events are happening sure cover it, but it's now 4 hours since the end of all problems. Can we please go back to regularly scheduled programs, with updates every half hour? Thanks, David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p762-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.142.254] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:40:00 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough please Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I second that. Notwithstanding the magnitude of the event, this is not the place. PC. Mal Ninnes wrote: > I have been quiet for as long as I can manage. aus-wx is a list about > WEATHER. > > If I want to read over 40 messages about the latest in America then I might > visit cnn.com or subscribe to alt.terrorism...but I don't. I want to read > about weather. > > If you have forgotten the guidelines then may I suggest you visit: > http://members.iinet.net.au/~jacob/auswx.html > > I will also highlight points #1 and #10: > > 1. Subjects must relate to weather, however the very occasional off topic > notice is ok, as long at it doesnt start a thread. > > 10. Don't get into arguements on the list, leave it to personal emails if > you have to. > > The concept of free speech is fine. Flames and abusive emails about > something completely offtopic is not. > > Let's get back to just talking about weather please. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 01:37:56 +1000 To: Aussie Weather List From: Carl Smith Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: some thoughts Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. I share the feelings of empathy expressed by many regarding the events that unfolded in the US over the last 26 hours. Out of respect for the possibly tens of thousands of innocent people who lost their lives and the families and friends left grieving, I suggest that this is neither the time nor place to air our own personal prejudices regarding boatloads of Afghan refugees or any other barrow load of intolerance we may desire to push around the place. Such prejudices are rooted in fear. If we choose to live in fear the evil forces behind this catastrophe have already defeated us. The world we live in is a reflection of the collective energy of our own psyches. If we allow fear to cause us to preach intolerance, which is the root cause of terrorism, it will surely return to us - the greater the amount of fear and intolerance we spread around, the greater the fear and intolerance we will need to suffer in return, until we learn the lessons of living in fear and intolerance. To paraphrase what one of the greatest teachers to ever walk this planet is reputed to have said: "As you sow, so you shall reap". Personally, I would rather live in the light - i.e. Treat others in the manner you would like to be treated. Regards, Carl. ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay Organization: Davsoft To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough please Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:02:39 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Wednesday 12 September 2001 21:40, Peter Creswick hit his keyboard with his head and the result was this: > I second that. Notwithstanding the magnitude of the event, this is not > the place. PC. I seconded it first!!! :-P David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: aa.spacegirl at inorbit.com X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:47:09 +0800 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough please Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I am also in agreement. Geez. I sure wish the weather was a bit more exciting, give everyone something else to talk about. I cannot watch TV at the moment because I have seen the footage ad-nauseum. Watching it as it happened was shocking, seeing it replayed over and over and over again is morbid and shows no respect for the people that died. PLEASE GIVE US A BREAK...I was rather relieved when Channel 10 played The Simpsons and Seinfeld last night... On a lighter note....Brisbane is FINE and SUNNY and HOT and NO storms are forecast for the near future, or at least until the weekend...dammit!!! :) We really need the rain here. How is the rest of the country? Seona -----Original Message----- From: David Findlay Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:02:39 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough please > On Wednesday 12 September 2001 21:40, Peter Creswick hit his keyboard with > his head and the result was this: > > I second that. Notwithstanding the magnitude of the event, this is not > > the place. PC. > > I seconded it first!!! :-P > > David > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.9.51.36] From: "James Harris" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Prospects - NSW for Friday Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:45:13 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2001 02:45:13.0553 (UTC) FILETIME=[1CE42410:01C13BFE] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Tommorow may get interesting for Parts of NSW if looking at some models is anything to go by. There seems to be a upper air disturbance moving over NSW in the afternoon that looks pretty good. AVN has LI's from 0 to -2 around Sydney, dropping to around -4 around the Hunter. Not being an expert this looks alright ... guess just have to see how much moisture/heat is around to generate anything. James _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:27:07 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List Subject: aus-wx: Warming up Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, A warmer day today, currently 27C at the Brisbane AP and CBD, some 28's also around on the SE QLD obs. Toolara was 28.4C at 1pm, so we should see 29C at least in SE QLD - is there the potential for 30C today??? Maybe, but we might fall just short, we'll see a maximum occur before 2:30 probably. Currently 32C in the study (it adjoins a tin entertainment area), I have the fan on low - turning it on caused a whole pile of dust to fall off the fan from the ceiling *cough* *sneeze*. Perhaps not long until the dust gets blown out of the airconditioning! Incidently, Wyndham in WA was 36C at 11am WST...be interesting to see if it will hit 40 today (although a lot of places have a tendancy to heat up very quickly and then slowly increase once they hit the mid 30's at this time of year. -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Tichborne" To: Subject: aus-wx: Wa cold snap Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:44:03 +1200 Organization: Private X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > From: Mal Ninnes > Subject: aus-wx: Enough please > > I have been quiet for as long as I can manage. aus-wx is a list about > WEATHER. > > If I want to read over 40 messages about the latest in America then I might > visit cnn.com or subscribe to alt.terrorism...but I don't. I want to read > about weather. I couldn't agree more. There are thousands of bulletin boards where you can discuss the terrorist attacks. This is not one of them. BTW Jacob (or anyone else from southwest WA), how was the recent cold southerly outbreak. I read the BOM forecast snow on the highest ranges, but did that eventuate?. I know some of the temperature obs were pretty low - eg Manjimup 4 C at one stage. Must be the second chilly oubreak in WA in recent weeks. Nothing like that in NZ at the moment - a big anticyclone is over us. Ben Christchurch NZ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: unusual warm temps in Coffs Hbr To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:57:22 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hi all, > > I know that there is a significant westerly airflow over nthn NSW at the > moment from the influence of the low near Sydney, but i'm still a little > surprised at the Coffs Harbour temperature at the moment (even though its > now dropped to 23) was a good 26 degrees at 3 - 4pm. > > Coffs had the 2nd or 3rd highest temperature in NE NSW during the afternoon > (which is very unusual). I personally could feel that it was relatively > humid as well. > > Any other thoughts on this??? I've seen Coffs Harbour get the highest temp in NSW before in late winter or spring, usually associated with an offshore (westerly) flow ahead of a front. Having said that, in a pre-frontal situation, unless the timing is perfect (as happened, for instance, with the 39.6 on 22 October 1988), you'd normally expect places a bit less exposed to the coast, like Taree (to the south) or Grafton or Casino (to the north) to be a bit warmer. Yesterday, because the westerly was driven by a closed low rather than a pre-frontal north-westerly, the offshore flow would have been a bit more localised. If it's a hot air mass rather than an especially strong offshore flow that's driving things, Jerrys Plains is one of the usual suspects, along with Casino. Looking at the NSW AWS obs, there's a marked jump in the dry-bulb (from 21.2 to 25.4) between 1400 and 1600 yesterday, with a drop in the dewpoint from 15.7 to 9.4, as the winds turned from NE to NNW (and later NW or WNW) - the dewpoint then stayed below 10 all night. It can get remarkably warm on the northern NSW coast in early spring, or even late winter. Yamba had a max of 36.1 on 13 August 1946; it is a very exposed site and 36 is very rare at any time of year (indeed, IIRC the 36.1 was the highest observed in any month in the period 1944-1952). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:38:27 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wa cold snap Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I heard there was some reports of snow falling on the highest peaks during that outbreak, later that night it was 5C and raining in Perth, which is pretty rare to have rainfall here with temperatures that low at the same time. Jacob At 03:44 PM 13/09/2001 +1200, you wrote: > >> From: Mal Ninnes >> Subject: aus-wx: Enough please >> >> I have been quiet for as long as I can manage. aus-wx is a list about >> WEATHER. >> >> If I want to read over 40 messages about the latest in America then I >might >> visit cnn.com or subscribe to alt.terrorism...but I don't. I want to read >> about weather. > >I couldn't agree more. There are thousands of bulletin boards where you can >discuss the terrorist attacks. This is not one of them. > >BTW Jacob (or anyone else from southwest WA), how was the recent cold >southerly outbreak. I read the BOM forecast snow on the highest ranges, but >did that eventuate?. I know some of the temperature obs were pretty low - eg >Manjimup 4 C at one stage. Must be the second chilly oubreak in WA in recent >weeks. Nothing like that in NZ at the moment - a big anticyclone is over us. > >Ben >Christchurch >NZ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [202.5.161.1] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: unusual warm temps in Coffs Hbr Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 04:55:55 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2001 04:55:55.0352 (UTC) FILETIME=[5EF7B580:01C13C10] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Blair!! I have also noticed myself that Yamba sometimes takes the highest temp on the North coast, higher than places like Casino, Grafton, etc, where usually it gets the same as Coffs (give or take a degree). _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: BRK Sounding To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:14:06 +1000 (EST) From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This morning's (12 sep 01 23Z) BRK (Rockhampton) sounding is a prime example how the Lifted Index (LI) can be deceiving as a stand-alone forecast tool. Despite LI = -1, there's (was) no hope of deep convection with a sizeable (~10 K) inversion just above 500 hPa. But note, we now have a deeper juicy (12 g/kg) airmass in place along coastal QLD N of the Bundaberg latitude. The next system with sufficiently deep amplitude should tap into that moisture (especially if/once the deep moisture progresses further S) and create some photogenic "entities." Harald -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Richter BMRC PO Box 1289K Melbourne VIC 3001 Australia ph: +61 3 9669 4501 fax: +61 3 9669 4660 email: h.richter at bom.gov.au url: http://thryp.ho.bom.gov.au/external/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p465-tnt4.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.135.211] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:16:44 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: BRK Sounding Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 03:14 PM 13/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >This morning's (12 sep 01 23Z) BRK (Rockhampton) sounding is a prime example >how the Lifted Index (LI) can be deceiving as a stand-alone forecast tool. I agree Harold and I have said so in the past: as a stand alone tool you have to be lucky to get it correct. You have to combine the moisture profile with any caps that may exist and of course wind shear will determine how and where the storms will go. Cheers ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warming up Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:13:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2001 08:14:31.0469 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D86DDD0:01C13C2C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good afternoon Anthony. I would advise that you shut off your heater! now that the temp is above 24c.....looking forward to a good season. regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Cornelius To: Australian Weather Mailing List Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:27 PM Subject: aus-wx: Warming up > Hi all, > > A warmer day today, currently 27C at the Brisbane AP and CBD, some 28's > also around on the SE QLD obs. Toolara was 28.4C at 1pm, so we should > see 29C at least in SE QLD - is there the potential for 30C today??? > Maybe, but we might fall just short, we'll see a maximum occur before > 2:30 probably. > > Currently 32C in the study (it adjoins a tin entertainment area), I have > the fan on low - turning it on caused a whole pile of dust to fall off > the fan from the ceiling *cough* *sneeze*. Perhaps not long until the > dust gets blown out of the airconditioning! > > Incidently, Wyndham in WA was 36C at 11am WST...be interesting to see if > it will hit 40 today (although a lot of places have a tendancy to heat > up very quickly and then slowly increase once they hit the mid 30's at > this time of year. > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: King low. Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:24:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2001 08:25:46.0684 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFFC7FC0:01C13C2D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Sorry no reference to our good friend Max King,but the very,very deep low which has been wafting about the southern Ocean south east of Africa a few days ago is now encroaching into the Australia region south of 50s and below WA,with what seems to be a central pressure of below 950hpa and possibly below 940hpa,this is the remains of a low that may have fallen below 930hpa several days ago,I wont go into wish forecast but it would be nice....regards Clyve Herbert. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Zac" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: King low. Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:47:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HUH???????? ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyve herbert" To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:24 PM Subject: aus-wx: King low. > Hi all. > Sorry no reference to our good friend Max King,but the very,very deep low > which has been wafting about the southern Ocean south east of Africa a few > days ago is now encroaching into the Australia region south of 50s and below > WA,with what seems to be a central pressure of below 950hpa and possibly > below 940hpa,this is the remains of a low that may have fallen below 930hpa > several days ago,I wont go into wish forecast but it would be > nice....regards Clyve Herbert. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: "Wx-Chase" , "Australian Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: Chase images - 12/09/01 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:12:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey all, Just thought I'd send out a quick email about the chase images that I got yesterday. Included is a Visible Sat image of Victoria at the time the cell/s were at their peak. http://www.geocities.com/pauly78au/120901 PaulY Paul Yole Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA Cell # - +61 418 369 256 Home# - +61 35 385 2699 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: Chase images - 12/09/01 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:16:00 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey all, Just thought I'd send out a quick email about the chase images that I got yesterday. Included is a Visible Sat image of Victoria at the time the cell/s were at their peak. http://www.geocities.com/pauly78au/120901 PaulY Paul Yole Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA Cell # - +61 418 369 256 Home# - +61 35 385 2699 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Chase images - 12/09/01 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:29:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sorry about the double posts. Outlook said it didn't send the first time PaulY +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:44:22 +1000 From: Andrew Miskelly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: King low. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If you're going to ask a question it might as well be constuctive. What's the problem with clive's message? Zac wrote: > > HUH???????? > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Cold pool in the Bight? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:02:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Looks like another small cold pool has formed over the last few hours in the head of the Bight (northern tip of the analysed front). It appears quite clearly on the 0531 water vapour image but not as clearly on the infra red image or the visible. I presume that this means that it is a mid-upper level cold pool (please correct me if I'm way off track!). It'll be interesting to see where it ends up.... Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:10:15 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List Subject: aus-wx: QLD ASWA Meeting Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some information on the next ASWA meeting this Saturday! Date: Saturday, 15th of September Time: 10am Place: "Pixel Components" Unit 9/14 Argon St. Sumner Presentation: "Using variable models for forecasting in plain English." Other events: - AGM 2001 video to be shown (on sale for $12 each, highly recommend you bring money in case you decide to buy it) - Video footage from previous storm events to be shown - lots of recent footage from an unseasonally high number of storms in SE QLD - Show some TD2K highlights, and some 2000-2001 highlights footage time pending. - One minute's silence in respect for the recent tragedy of the US What to bring? Yourself, photos, videos - $4 for pizza and drinks. We hope to introduce a few new sections to the meetings, including a review synoptically by Michael Bath on the previous weeks weather - and the outlook and forecast ahead (synoptically) for the coming week! This was taken from our feedback at the last meeting. Please make a note of the change of venue. Unfortunately our previous venue at Spherion Tecnhology is no longer available. However, John Woodbridge has been kind enough to offer his office, those who attended meetings in 1999-2000 would remember this venue. If you can make it, it'd be great if you could drop me an email! If not, turn up when you can. -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p60-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.60] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:06:30 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Severe Thunderstorm potential Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, This evening I went through the AVN model prognosis for tomorrow and I must say I would be watching at this stage far northern NSW and SE Qld particularly just below latitude 28S. The moisture profile, wind shear profile and instability is quite ideal there. There is a convergence zone predicted for along the ranges. However, there is a reasonable cap in the region - perhaps enhancing the probability of isolated thunderstorms including supercells (tornadoes possible??). We shall see what happens. Further south including Sydney there is some good storm potential but the quality decreases Sydney. Enjoy it. I am charging the batteries just in case. ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:21:06 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: BRK Sounding Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Come on Jimmy you follow the LI and nothing else ! :) Matt Smith Jimmy Deguara wrote: > At 03:14 PM 13/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: > >This morning's (12 sep 01 23Z) BRK (Rockhampton) sounding is a prime example > >how the Lifted Index (LI) can be deceiving as a stand-alone forecast tool. > > I agree Harold and I have said so in the past: as a stand alone tool you > have to be lucky to get it correct. You have to combine the moisture > profile with any caps that may exist and of course wind shear will > determine how and where the storms will go. > > Cheers > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:36:38 +1000 From: David Carroll X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Thunderstorm potential Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jimmy.. IM heading to Newcastle tomorrow at about 9am.. Will be there until Sunday afternoon.. I will be contactable on mobile no.. Dave Bathurst Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > Hi all, > > This evening I went through the AVN model prognosis for tomorrow and I must > say I would be watching at this stage far northern NSW and SE Qld > particularly just below latitude 28S. > > The moisture profile, wind shear profile and instability is quite ideal > there. There is a convergence zone predicted for along the ranges. However, > there is a reasonable cap in the region - perhaps enhancing the > probability of isolated thunderstorms including supercells (tornadoes > possible??). We shall see what happens. > > Further south including Sydney there is some good storm potential but the > quality decreases Sydney. > > Enjoy it. I am charging the batteries just in case. > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p60-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.60] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:17:07 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: BRK Sounding Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com How little do you know Matt. Jimmy Deguara At 11:21 PM 13/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >Come on Jimmy you follow the LI and nothing else ! :) > >Matt Smith > >Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > > At 03:14 PM 13/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: > > >This morning's (12 sep 01 23Z) BRK (Rockhampton) sounding is a prime > example > > >how the Lifted Index (LI) can be deceiving as a stand-alone forecast tool. > > > > I agree Harold and I have said so in the past: as a stand alone tool you > > have to be lucky to get it correct. You have to combine the moisture > > profile with any caps that may exist and of course wind shear will > > determine how and where the storms will go. > > > > Cheers > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: RE: aus-wx: Enough please Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:33:16 +1000 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: aus-wx: Enough please Thread-Index: AcE7+xbdD+0DobmcSoWCP8yIJ6g1NQAAFYUA From: "Allison Cunnington" To: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id WAA12669 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I agree - bring back the "normal" t.v shows! Weather in Kyabram - becoming windy and cloudy. Last night was absolutely amazing! I was driving from Kyabram to a friend's place in Nathalia and as I looked to the North East there were these two clouds that seemed to be out on their own. I then looked further east and saw some more storm clouds. But these two clouds were just amazing. As a beginner storm chaser, I have been reading a few weather books and I swear that these were straight out of the book. They had beautiful formation, and the larger of the two was "popping it's top". I wish I had my camera handy! We then were driving from Nathalia into Shepparton, and out to the East of us was some amazing lightning, even my friend Claire - who thinks I am strange for liking storm chasing, was amazed at the lightning. Was too far away to hear of any thunder, but at an estimation, Numurkah district was coping one mighty storm! Gee I love spring! Allison -----Original Message----- From: aa.spacegirl at inorbit.com [mailto:aa.spacegirl at inorbit.com] Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2001 11:47 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough please I am also in agreement. Geez. I sure wish the weather was a bit more exciting, give everyone something else to talk about. I cannot watch TV at the moment because I have seen the footage ad-nauseum. Watching it as it happened was shocking, seeing it replayed over and over and over again is morbid and shows no respect for the people that died. PLEASE GIVE US A BREAK...I was rather relieved when Channel 10 played The Simpsons and Seinfeld last night... On a lighter note....Brisbane is FINE and SUNNY and HOT and NO storms are forecast for the near future, or at least until the weekend...dammit!!! :) We really need the rain here. How is the rest of the country? Seona -----Original Message----- From: David Findlay Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:02:39 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough please > On Wednesday 12 September 2001 21:40, Peter Creswick hit his keyboard with > his head and the result was this: > > I second that. Notwithstanding the magnitude of the event, this is not > > the place. PC. > > I seconded it first!!! :-P > > David > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ###################################################################### Attention: This e-mail message is privileged and confidential. 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Harald Richter wrote: > This morning's (12 sep 01 23Z) BRK (Rockhampton) sounding is a prime example > how the Lifted Index (LI) can be deceiving as a stand-alone forecast tool. > Despite LI = -1, there's (was) no hope of deep convection with a > sizeable (~10 K) inversion just above 500 hPa. > > But note, we now have a deeper juicy (12 g/kg) airmass in place along coastal > QLD N of the Bundaberg latitude. The next system with sufficiently deep > amplitude should tap into that moisture (especially if/once the deep > moisture progresses further S) and create some photogenic "entities." > > Harald > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Harald Richter > BMRC > PO Box 1289K > Melbourne VIC 3001 > Australia > ph: +61 3 9669 4501 > fax: +61 3 9669 4660 > email: h.richter at bom.gov.au > url: http://thryp.ho.bom.gov.au/external/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: SHELDON Bill To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Enough please Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:16:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com if weather is a politics-free zone, is climate change? -----Original Message----- From: Allison Cunnington [mailto:allison.cunnington at dawes-vary.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2001 12:33 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Enough please I agree - bring back the "normal" t.v shows! Weather in Kyabram - becoming windy and cloudy. Last night was absolutely amazing! I was driving from Kyabram to a friend's place in Nathalia and as I looked to the North East there were these two clouds that seemed to be out on their own. I then looked further east and saw some more storm clouds. But these two clouds were just amazing. As a beginner storm chaser, I have been reading a few weather books and I swear that these were straight out of the book. They had beautiful formation, and the larger of the two was "popping it's top". I wish I had my camera handy! We then were driving from Nathalia into Shepparton, and out to the East of us was some amazing lightning, even my friend Claire - who thinks I am strange for liking storm chasing, was amazed at the lightning. Was too far away to hear of any thunder, but at an estimation, Numurkah district was coping one mighty storm! Gee I love spring! Allison -----Original Message----- From: aa.spacegirl at inorbit.com [mailto:aa.spacegirl at inorbit.com] Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2001 11:47 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough please I am also in agreement. Geez. I sure wish the weather was a bit more exciting, give everyone something else to talk about. I cannot watch TV at the moment because I have seen the footage ad-nauseum. Watching it as it happened was shocking, seeing it replayed over and over and over again is morbid and shows no respect for the people that died. PLEASE GIVE US A BREAK...I was rather relieved when Channel 10 played The Simpsons and Seinfeld last night... On a lighter note....Brisbane is FINE and SUNNY and HOT and NO storms are forecast for the near future, or at least until the weekend...dammit!!! :) We really need the rain here. How is the rest of the country? Seona -----Original Message----- From: David Findlay Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:02:39 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough please > On Wednesday 12 September 2001 21:40, Peter Creswick hit his keyboard with > his head and the result was this: > > I second that. Notwithstanding the magnitude of the event, this is not > > the place. 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Could be something interesting going on....areas of heavy to very heavy rain in the Narrabri/Moree area of NSW -----Original Message----- From: David Carroll Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:36:38 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Thunderstorm potential > Jimmy.. > > IM heading to Newcastle tomorrow at about 9am.. Will be there until > Sunday afternoon.. I will be contactable on mobile no.. > > Dave > Bathurst > > > Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > This evening I went through the AVN model prognosis for tomorrow and I must > > say I would be watching at this stage far northern NSW and SE Qld > > particularly just below latitude 28S. > > > > The moisture profile, wind shear profile and instability is quite ideal > > there. There is a convergence zone predicted for along the ranges. However, > > there is a reasonable cap in the region - perhaps enhancing the > > probability of isolated thunderstorms including supercells (tornadoes > > possible??). We shall see what happens. > > > > Further south including Sydney there is some good storm potential but the > > quality decreases Sydney. > > > > Enjoy it. I am charging the batteries just in case. > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [202.139.125.41] From: "stuart hely" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW thunderstorms - Severe Thunderstorm potential Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 05:07:09 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Sep 2001 05:07:09.0341 (UTC) FILETIME=[1B1C04D0:01C13CDB] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day, How can I get hold of a lightening tracker please? Stuart >From: aa.spacegirl at inorbit.com >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW thunderstorms - Severe Thunderstorm >potential >Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:01:16 +0800 > >Lightning tracker shows quite a few CG's detected on the SE QLD/NSW border. > Could be something interesting going on....areas of heavy to very heavy >rain in the Narrabri/Moree area of NSW > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Carroll >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:36:38 +1000 >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Thunderstorm potential > > > > Jimmy.. > > > > IM heading to Newcastle tomorrow at about 9am.. Will be there until > > Sunday afternoon.. I will be contactable on mobile no.. > > > > Dave > > Bathurst > > > > > > Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > This evening I went through the AVN model prognosis for tomorrow and I >must > > > say I would be watching at this stage far northern NSW and SE Qld > > > particularly just below latitude 28S. > > > > > > The moisture profile, wind shear profile and instability is quite >ideal > > > there. There is a convergence zone predicted for along the ranges. >However, > > > there is a reasonable cap in the region - perhaps enhancing the > > > probability of isolated thunderstorms including supercells (tornadoes > > > possible??). We shall see what happens. > > > > > > Further south including Sydney there is some good storm potential but >the > > > quality decreases Sydney. > > > > > > Enjoy it. I am charging the batteries just in case. > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > > > from > > > Schofields, Sydney > > > NSW Australia > > > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > > message. > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > >-- > >_______________________________________________ >FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > >Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! >http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "mail.fearby.com" To: Subject: PICTURES Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW thunderstorms - Severe Thunderstorm potential Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:49:48 +1000 Organization: Fearby.com Software X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I am in Tamworth and I can hear loud thunder in the distance.. Storm tracker shows the lightning 80 klms to the North West. I am uploading some digital camera piccies of he hazy storm to http://www.fearby.com/weather/2001/default.html http://www.fearby.com/weather/2001/Tamworth-W-14thSeptember2001-3PM-001-Larg e.jpg (1760x1168, 200k) http://www.fearby.com/weather/2001/Tamworth-W-14thSeptember2001-3PM-001-Smal l.jpg (5k) http://www.fearby.com/weather/2001/Tamworth-NW-14thSeptember2001-3PM-002-Lar ge.jpg (1760x1168, 349k) http://www.fearby.com/weather/2001/Tamworth-NW-14thSeptember2001-3PM-002-Sma ll.jpg (8k) http://www.fearby.com/weather/2001/Tamworth-Radar-14thSeptember2001-3PM.gif The storm is a long way off but I can hear it from here.. Once the anvil goes over head the front should darken and I will be able to get better pictures. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:01 PM Subject: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW thunderstorms - Severe Thunderstorm potential > Lightning tracker shows quite a few CG's detected on the SE QLD/NSW border. Could be something interesting going on....areas of heavy to very heavy rain in the Narrabri/Moree area of NSW > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Carroll > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:36:38 +1000 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Thunderstorm potential > > > > Jimmy.. > > > > IM heading to Newcastle tomorrow at about 9am.. Will be there until > > Sunday afternoon.. I will be contactable on mobile no.. > > > > Dave > > Bathurst > > > > > > Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > This evening I went through the AVN model prognosis for tomorrow and I must > > > say I would be watching at this stage far northern NSW and SE Qld > > > particularly just below latitude 28S. > > > > > > The moisture profile, wind shear profile and instability is quite ideal > > > there. There is a convergence zone predicted for along the ranges. However, > > > there is a reasonable cap in the region - perhaps enhancing the > > > probability of isolated thunderstorms including supercells (tornadoes > > > possible??). We shall see what happens. > > > > > > Further south including Sydney there is some good storm potential but the > > > quality decreases Sydney. > > > > > > Enjoy it. I am charging the batteries just in case. > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > > > from > > > Schofields, Sydney > > > NSW Australia > > > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! > http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: NSW/QLD T'storms To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:07:21 +1000 (EST) From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The ongoing convection around Moree (NSW) does not look severe to me. The 128 km Moree radar shows no reflectivities exceeding 50 dBZ. The southern end of the convective line segment has slightly better chances of some intensification as it has a little more low-level moisture to work with. A second area of concern is along the QLD coast N of BBN. Some deeper moisture (held in place by NE onshore flow) might be lifted sufficiently along a surface convergence line driven by the SWy push inland. Some deep convection has already initiated in the Bundaberg area. LAPS forecasts speculate that the mid-level flow might not be sufficient for supercells in that area. This morning's BBN/BRK lapse rates were'nt particularly exciting, but they should have picked up a little bit since then. Cheers, Harald -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Richter BMRC PO Box 1289K Melbourne VIC 3001 Australia ph: +61 3 9669 4501 fax: +61 3 9669 4660 email: h.richter at bom.gov.au url: http://thryp.ho.bom.gov.au/external/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "mail.fearby.com" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW thunderstorms - Severe Thunderstorm potential Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:16:20 +1000 Organization: Fearby.com Software X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Goto: http://www.northpower.com.au/rds/~CT_ST.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "stuart hely" To: Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:07 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW thunderstorms - Severe Thunderstorm potential > > G'day, > How can I get hold of a lightening tracker please? > > Stuart > > > >From: aa.spacegirl at inorbit.com > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW thunderstorms - Severe Thunderstorm > >potential > >Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:01:16 +0800 > > > >Lightning tracker shows quite a few CG's detected on the SE QLD/NSW border. > > Could be something interesting going on....areas of heavy to very heavy > >rain in the Narrabri/Moree area of NSW > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David Carroll > >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:36:38 +1000 > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Thunderstorm potential > > > > > > > Jimmy.. > > > > > > IM heading to Newcastle tomorrow at about 9am.. Will be there until > > > Sunday afternoon.. I will be contactable on mobile no.. > > > > > > Dave > > > Bathurst > > > > > > > > > Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > This evening I went through the AVN model prognosis for tomorrow and I > >must > > > > say I would be watching at this stage far northern NSW and SE Qld > > > > particularly just below latitude 28S. > > > > > > > > The moisture profile, wind shear profile and instability is quite > >ideal > > > > there. There is a convergence zone predicted for along the ranges. > >However, > > > > there is a reasonable cap in the region - perhaps enhancing the > > > > probability of isolated thunderstorms including supercells (tornadoes > > > > possible??). We shall see what happens. > > > > > > > > Further south including Sydney there is some good storm potential but > >the > > > > quality decreases Sydney. > > > > > > > > Enjoy it. I am charging the batteries just in case. > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > > > > > from > > > > Schofields, Sydney > > > > NSW Australia > > > > > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > > > > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >your > > > > message. > > > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >_______________________________________________ > >FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > > >Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! > >http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "mail.fearby.com" To: Subject: Re: PICTURES Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW thunderstorms - Severe Thunderstorm potential Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:20:02 +1000 Organization: Fearby.com Software X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Storm front getting darker, Im off to get some nice pictures. The Thunder is very loud for this distant storm. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mail.fearby.com" To: Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:49 PM Subject: PICTURES Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW thunderstorms - Severe Thunderstorm potential > I am in Tamworth and I can hear loud thunder in the distance.. Storm > tracker shows the lightning 80 klms to the North West. > > I am uploading some digital camera piccies of he hazy storm to > http://www.fearby.com/weather/2001/default.html > > > http://www.fearby.com/weather/2001/Tamworth-W-14thSeptember2001-3PM-001-Larg > e.jpg (1760x1168, 200k) > > http://www.fearby.com/weather/2001/Tamworth-W-14thSeptember2001-3PM-001-Smal > l.jpg (5k) > > > http://www.fearby.com/weather/2001/Tamworth-NW-14thSeptember2001-3PM-002-Lar > ge.jpg (1760x1168, 349k) > > http://www.fearby.com/weather/2001/Tamworth-NW-14thSeptember2001-3PM-002-Sma > ll.jpg (8k) > > > http://www.fearby.com/weather/2001/Tamworth-Radar-14thSeptember2001-3PM.gif > > The storm is a long way off but I can hear it from here.. > > Once the anvil goes over head the front should darken and I will be able to > get better pictures. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:01 PM > Subject: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW thunderstorms - Severe Thunderstorm potential > > > > Lightning tracker shows quite a few CG's detected on the SE QLD/NSW > border. Could be something interesting going on....areas of heavy to very > heavy rain in the Narrabri/Moree area of NSW > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Carroll > > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:36:38 +1000 > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Thunderstorm potential > > > > > > > Jimmy.. > > > > > > IM heading to Newcastle tomorrow at about 9am.. Will be there until > > > Sunday afternoon.. I will be contactable on mobile no.. > > > > > > Dave > > > Bathurst > > > > > > > > > Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > This evening I went through the AVN model prognosis for tomorrow and I > must > > > > say I would be watching at this stage far northern NSW and SE Qld > > > > particularly just below latitude 28S. > > > > > > > > The moisture profile, wind shear profile and instability is quite > ideal > > > > there. There is a convergence zone predicted for along the ranges. > However, > > > > there is a reasonable cap in the region - perhaps enhancing the > > > > probability of isolated thunderstorms including supercells (tornadoes > > > > possible??). We shall see what happens. > > > > > > > > Further south including Sydney there is some good storm potential but > the > > > > quality decreases Sydney. > > > > > > > > Enjoy it. I am charging the batteries just in case. > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > > > > > from > > > > Schofields, Sydney > > > > NSW Australia > > > > > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > > > > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > > > Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! > > http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase images - 12/09/01 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:30:18 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Sep 2001 08:30:18.0307 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C4CA130:01C13CF7] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Real 'big sky country' you live in Paul.

Nice to see the Wimmera looking so green.

>From: "Paul Yole"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: "Wx-Chase" , "Australian Weather Mailing List"
>Subject: aus-wx: Chase images - 12/09/01
>Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:12:56 +1000
>
>Hey all,
>
>Just thought I'd send out a quick email about the chase
>images that I got yesterday. Included is a Visible Sat image
>of Victoria at the time the cell/s were at their peak.
>
>http://www.geocities.com/pauly78au/120901
>
>PaulY
>
>Paul Yole
>Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA
>Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter
>Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA
>Cell # - +61 418 369 256
>Home# - +61 35 385 2699
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: ASWA 2001 AGM Video Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:21:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've just watched my ASWA 2001 AGM Video. In one word - "BRILLIANT" To all involved, an excellent production. Those who haven't got one, get one!!! Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: aa.spacegirl at inorbit.com X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:46:29 +0800 Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW thunderstorms - Severe Thunderstorm potential Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com go to http://www.weatherzone.com.au and follow the links. Very useful site. -----Original Message----- From: "stuart hely" Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 05:07:09 +0000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW thunderstorms - Severe Thunderstorm potential > > G'day, > How can I get hold of a lightening tracker please? > > Stuart > > > >From: aa.spacegirl at inorbit.com > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW thunderstorms - Severe Thunderstorm > >potential > >Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:01:16 +0800 > > > >Lightning tracker shows quite a few CG's detected on the SE QLD/NSW border. > > Could be something interesting going on....areas of heavy to very heavy > >rain in the Narrabri/Moree area of NSW > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David Carroll > >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:36:38 +1000 > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Thunderstorm potential > > > > > > > Jimmy.. > > > > > > IM heading to Newcastle tomorrow at about 9am.. Will be there until > > > Sunday afternoon.. I will be contactable on mobile no.. > > > > > > Dave > > > Bathurst > > > > > > > > > Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > This evening I went through the AVN model prognosis for tomorrow and I > >must > > > > say I would be watching at this stage far northern NSW and SE Qld > > > > particularly just below latitude 28S. > > > > > > > > The moisture profile, wind shear profile and instability is quite > >ideal > > > > there. There is a convergence zone predicted for along the ranges. > >However, > > > > there is a reasonable cap in the region - perhaps enhancing the > > > > probability of isolated thunderstorms including supercells (tornadoes > > > > possible??). We shall see what happens. > > > > > > > > Further south including Sydney there is some good storm potential but > >the > > > > quality decreases Sydney. > > > > > > > > Enjoy it. I am charging the batteries just in case. > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > > > > > from > > > > Schofields, Sydney > > > > NSW Australia > > > > > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > > > > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >your > > > > message. > > > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >_______________________________________________ > >FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > > >Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! > >http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 14 Sep 01 20:47:22 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: King low. Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Zac! 13 Sep 01 18:47, you wrote to All: Z> HUH???????? Thinking he's having a play on your name. :) Tony, VK3JED -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 14 Sep 01 20:43:13 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough please Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello aa.spacegirl at inorbit.com! 13 Sep 01 09:47, you wrote to All: as> On a lighter note....Brisbane is FINE and SUNNY and HOT and NO storms as> are forecast for the near future, or at least until the as> weekend...dammit!!! :) We really need the rain here. as> as> How is the rest of the country? Not a lot happening here either, not that I've had a lot of time to notice, been doing an office move. :-( Will be our warmest day for a while tommorrow - 21 degrees. :) Has been rather mild the last few evenings, and the heater's starting to lay idle :) Tony, VK3JED .. "I said No gnu taxes! Do you see any gnus being taxed?" - B.Hawke. -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Chase images - 12/09/01 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 02:37:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yeah Michael, About time it was green too. The rainfall in August really helped alot out here...even put some water back into the storages (Was 11%, now up to 14% last I heard). Lets just hope we get some more and a fairly weak summer with some nice, 20-25C temps and lots of rain...that should make things even better PaulY -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of michael king Sent: Friday, 14 September 2001 18:30 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase images - 12/09/01 Real 'big sky country' you live in Paul. Nice to see the Wimmera looking so green. >From: "Paul Yole" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: "Wx-Chase" , "Australian Weather Mailing List" >Subject: aus-wx: Chase images - 12/09/01 >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:12:56 +1000 > >Hey all, > >Just thought I'd send out a quick email about the chase >images that I got yesterday. Included is a Visible Sat image >of Victoria at the time the cell/s were at their peak. > >http://www.geocities.com/pauly78au/120901 > >PaulY > >Paul Yole >Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA >Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter >Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA >Cell # - +61 418 369 256 >Home# - +61 35 385 2699 >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------- ------------- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------- -------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.29.156.5] From: "T Middleton" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe thunderstorms hit Adelaide. Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:28:51 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Sep 2001 21:28:51.0698 (UTC) FILETIME=[3FA66D20:01C13D64] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Tim and Nathan, great to see some pics from that storm - thanks for posting them NICE photos too :-) regards T.Middleton Anvil Industries http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils >From: Tim Eckert >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe thunderstorms hit Adelaide. >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:59:55 +0930 > >This is my first attempt at publishing storm photos on the net. Both >pages show photos taken from my home at Newton in the NE suburbs of >adelaide of the storm that hit last friday. Unfortunately I haven't >linked to a larger view of them as yet, but you get the idea. > >http://au.geocities.com/timjeckert/7-9-01page1.html >http://au.geocities.com/timjeckert/7-9-01page2.html > >Go to this page to see radar images from the approaching storm. >http://au.geocities.com/timjeckert/ > >I was glad to finally get a decent storm in Adelaide as next week I >move house to Coleraine, Victoria. Hopefully some nice spring/summer >storms in that part of the world shortly! >I'd actually be placing a bet on Adelaide getting some severe storms >now that I'm not there! > >Tim Eckert >Adelaide (soon to be Coleraine) > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________________ >Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 05:48:08 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Strange paths for the current tropical cyclones X-Mailer: WorldClient Pro 2.2.0 X-MDRcpt-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Has anyone noticed the "strange" behaviour of several TCs at present. We have Hurricane Erin very close to Sable Island and predicted to be still at Tropical Storm strength when it makes a direct hit on Cape Race and possibly St John's Newfoundland within the next twenty-four hours. How often do TC's hit that far North? Then we have Hurricane Felix out in mid-Atlantic and predicted to be still at hurricane strength when it reaches Vila do Porto. Extrapolating its path forwards brings it close to the Mediterranean or the coast of Portugal within the week if it can hold its strength. Wow! Then Tropical Storm Gabrielle has done a U-turn and headed exactly along its previous path in the opposite direction and has hit the WEST coast of Florida just South of Tampa and is crossing Florida from West to East. Meanwhile, Tropical Storm Ivo is skirting along just off the coast of Baja California instead of heading West like NEP storms normally do. I expect however it will dissipate before it reaches Guadalupe. And lastly, in the NWP, Typhoon Nari has completed two complete "circles" and is now headed back across the East China Sea in the general direction of the Taiwan Strait. It is indeed strange to see five concurrent storms all following non- typical paths for their regions at the same time. And it is also rather rare (if my memory serves me correctly) to have three concurrent active named storms in the Atlantic basin. There are lots of links to info on all five storms on my page at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for further reference. Stop Press! Latest forecast for Ivo, now downgraded to a TD, has it heading more typically out West. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: aus-wx: pt headland radar Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:22:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi All
 
Just seen pt headland radar and it shows a small "storm" to the NE, going in to pink and even red on radar.
Just wondering though if there is a fault with the radar, because there aint no lighning up that way????
 
Simon Angell
Canberra ACT
 
From: "The Weather Co." To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: pt headland radar Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:50:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Look's like interference, temperature is 30.2, dp -0.2... Craig Arthur ____________________ The Weather Company Level 2, 7 West Street North Sydney 2060 Phone: (02) 9955 7704 Fax: (02) 9955 1536 http://www.theweather.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Angell To: Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:22 PM Subject: aus-wx: pt headland radar Hi All Just seen pt headland radar and it shows a small "storm" to the NE, going in to pink and even red on radar. Just wondering though if there is a fault with the radar, because there aint no lighning up that way???? Simon Angell Canberra ACT +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Cloud in the SE / Frontal boundaries Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:38:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, There are 2 areas on this CSIRO satpic which interest me & I wonder if someone could explain the dynamics behind it. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Sept01/09151921csironsw.gif The first is the small area of cloud in SA (maybe 'The Cloud' is visiting?) & the second is the cloud over SE NSW. It looks orographic (guess). I'd be very interested in understanding the dynamics behind its formation, its level etc in some depth. Also, although the front crossing the SE of Australia is described as 'weak', the drop in freezing level from 10,5000' to 5,000' is interesting. Is there a direct relationship between the magnitude of the change in freezing level across the frontal boundary ie: difference between air masses & the accompanying weather? How significant is it? 18.8C in Melbourne at 9.33am!!!!!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Cloud in the SE / Frontal boundaries Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:07:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane I think the cloud in the southeast is orographically induced lee-wave high cloud -- all the stations in the area under the cloud were reporting either cirrus or cirrostratus at their 9am obs. The image in your link shows a similar effect being induced over the Lofties in SA, with thinner cloud but likely of similar origin over the western Victorian uplands. I haven't seen any upper air traces yet, but I suspect the NW airstream is moist in the upper levels, and the modest uplift is producing cloud. The Tasmanian forecasters are going for locally heavy falls in the north, and snow down to 600m later! Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill > Sent: Sunday, 16 September, 2001 9:38 AM > To: Aussie-wx > Subject: aus-wx: Cloud in the SE / Frontal boundaries > > > Morning all, > > There are 2 areas on this CSIRO satpic which interest me & I wonder if > someone could explain the dynamics behind it. > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Sept01/09151921csironsw.gif The first is > the small area of cloud in SA (maybe 'The Cloud' is visiting?) & the > second is the cloud over SE NSW. It looks orographic (guess). I'd be > very interested in understanding the dynamics behind its formation, its > level etc in some depth. > Also, although the front crossing the SE of Australia is described as > 'weak', the drop in freezing level from 10,5000' to 5,000' is > interesting. Is there a direct relationship between the magnitude of > the change in freezing level across the frontal boundary ie: difference > between air masses & the accompanying weather? How significant is it? > > 18.8C in Melbourne at 9.33am!!!!!! > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud in the SE / Frontal boundaries Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:31:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have been wondering about these two areas myself. They stood out as "bright" places on the maps. I'm watching...... Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:38 AM Subject: aus-wx: Cloud in the SE / Frontal boundaries > Morning all, > > There are 2 areas on this CSIRO satpic which interest me & I wonder if > someone could explain the dynamics behind it. > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Sept01/09151921csironsw.gif The first is > the small area of cloud in SA (maybe 'The Cloud' is visiting?) & the > second is the cloud over SE NSW. It looks orographic (guess). I'd be > very interested in understanding the dynamics behind its formation, its > level etc in some depth. > Also, although the front crossing the SE of Australia is described as > 'weak', the drop in freezing level from 10,5000' to 5,000' is > interesting. Is there a direct relationship between the magnitude of > the change in freezing level across the frontal boundary ie: difference > between air masses & the accompanying weather? How significant is it? > > 18.8C in Melbourne at 9.33am!!!!!! > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Strange paths for the current tropical cyclones Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:47:28 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Phil Not particularly unusual to have three named storms in the Atlantic - but it would have been unsusal to have three named as hurricanes (Gabrielle didn't quite make it a hurricane threesome, almost though!). I don't see anything unusal about their motion either. However Typhoon Nari is quite unusal in its (loop-the-loop motion and even now appears to be strengthening and moving toward Taiwan from a North Easterly direction. However relating back to Australian circumstances - I find it very frustrating that the world community cannot be consistent in dealing with TCs, Hurricanes or Typhoons (whatever you want to call them) on an equivalent basis as it makes comparisons quite difficult. Regards Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: "Aussie-Weather" Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:48 AM Subject: aus-wx: Strange paths for the current tropical cyclones > Has anyone noticed the "strange" behaviour of several TCs at present. > We have Hurricane Erin very close to Sable Island and predicted to be > still at Tropical Storm strength when it makes a direct hit on Cape Race > and possibly St John's Newfoundland within the next twenty-four hours. > How often do TC's hit that far North? > Then we have Hurricane Felix out in mid-Atlantic and predicted to be > still at hurricane strength when it reaches Vila do Porto. Extrapolating > its path forwards brings it close to the Mediterranean or the coast of > Portugal within the week if it can hold its strength. Wow! > Then Tropical Storm Gabrielle has done a U-turn and headed exactly along > its previous path in the opposite direction and has hit the WEST coast of > Florida just South of Tampa and is crossing Florida from West to East. > Meanwhile, Tropical Storm Ivo is skirting along just off the coast of > Baja California instead of heading West like NEP storms normally do. I > expect however it will dissipate before it reaches Guadalupe. > And lastly, in the NWP, Typhoon Nari has completed two complete "circles" > and is now headed back across the East China Sea in the general direction > of the Taiwan Strait. > It is indeed strange to see five concurrent storms all following non- > typical paths for their regions at the same time. > And it is also rather rare (if my memory serves me correctly) to have > three concurrent active named storms in the Atlantic basin. > There are lots of links to info on all five storms on my page at > http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for further reference. > > Stop Press! Latest forecast for Ivo, now downgraded to a TD, has it > heading more typically out West. > > Phil > <>< > International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: aus-wx: TC Banana Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:03:07 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all
 
Just a comment (slightly off topic to Australia). However I think it is quite amusing that the NW Pacific names its Tropical Storms and Typhoons after food dishes, wild animals, fruit and plants etc... etc..
 
Imagine, Tropical Cyclone Pavlova, Tropical Cyclone Banana or Tropical Cyclone Wombat - sort of sounds ridiculous to me.
 
 
 
Regards
Simon
From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 16 Sep 01 18:31:13 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: King low. Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Max! 16 Sep 01 17:42, you wrote to All: MK> Hello Tony! Hi Max, I'm still around. Just enjoyed the first signs of summer. Don't know what it got up to (yet, wx is coming on in a few mins), but it was quite warm, followed by a dry change from the SW (a storm or two to finish the day would have been nice :) ). Just saw the report - got up to 24 :-) P.S. You can email me at vk3jed at optushome.com.au (haven't transferred this list over to the new address yet). Tony, VK3JED .. (D)ance, (L)augh, (P)arty? -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Max King" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: King low. Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:03:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Not sure Tony, I spent the day up in Newcastle, and it was REALLY warm up there although a bit cooler at Dixon Park Beach :) Max ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon" To: Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 6:31 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: King low. > > Hello Max! > > 16 Sep 01 17:42, you wrote to All: > > MK> Hello Tony! > > Hi Max, I'm still around. Just enjoyed the first signs of summer. Don't know > what it got up to (yet, wx is coming on in a few mins), but it was quite warm, > followed by a dry change from the SW (a storm or two to finish the day would > have been nice :) ). > > Just saw the report - got up to 24 :-) > > P.S. You can email me at vk3jed at optushome.com.au (haven't transferred this > list over to the new address yet). > > Tony, VK3JED > > .. (D)ance, (L)augh, (P)arty? > -- > |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 > |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au > | > | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:03:56 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Banana X-Mailer: WorldClient Pro 2.2.0 X-MDRcpt-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well, earlier this year we were visited by Typhoon Durian. The durian is a fruit that stinks so bad that air conditioned buses here have a sign saying that passengers carrying them are not permitted to board. The weather girls on TV just couldn't keep a straight face while giving reports on it. When members of the public saw the Typhoon Signal hoisted, the first question is "What is the name of the typhoon?" and lots of folks here just wouldn't believe it. We would all much rather go back to having a regular list of person's names in alphabetical order. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 -----Original Message----- From: "Simon Clarke" To: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:03:07 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: TC Banana > Hi all > > Just a comment (slightly off topic to Australia). However I think it is > quite amusing that the NW Pacific names its Tropical Storms and > Typhoons after food dishes, wild animals, fruit and plants etc... etc.. > > Imagine, Tropical Cyclone Pavlova, Tropical Cyclone Banana or Tropical > Cyclone Wombat - sort of sounds ridiculous to me. > > > > Regards > Simon > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:12:48 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud in the SE / Frontal boundaries X-Mailer: WorldClient Pro 2.2.0 X-MDRcpt-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sounds quiet enough down there that you need another visit from "The Cloud". We could do with one here too. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 -----Original Message----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:38:10 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Cloud in the SE / Frontal boundaries > Morning all, > > There are 2 areas on this CSIRO satpic which interest me & I wonder if > someone could explain the dynamics behind it. > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Sept01/09151921csironsw.gif The first is > the small area of cloud in SA (maybe 'The Cloud' is visiting?) & the > second is the cloud over SE NSW. It looks orographic (guess). I'd be > very interested in understanding the dynamics behind its formation, its > level etc in some depth. > Also, although the front crossing the SE of Australia is described as > 'weak', the drop in freezing level from 10,5000' to 5,000' is > interesting. Is there a direct relationship between the magnitude of > the change in freezing level across the frontal boundary ie: difference > between air masses & the accompanying weather? How significant is it? > > 18.8C in Melbourne at 9.33am!!!!!! > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:12:44 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: King low. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 27 up here today Max :) Matt Smith Max King wrote: > Not sure Tony, > > I spent the day up in Newcastle, and it was REALLY warm up there > although a bit cooler at Dixon Park Beach :) > > Max > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Langdon" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 6:31 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: King low. > > > > > Hello Max! > > > > 16 Sep 01 17:42, you wrote to All: > > > > MK> Hello Tony! > > > > Hi Max, I'm still around. Just enjoyed the first signs of summer. Don't > know > > what it got up to (yet, wx is coming on in a few mins), but it was quite > warm, > > followed by a dry change from the SW (a storm or two to finish the day > would > > have been nice :) ). > > > > Just saw the report - got up to 24 :-) > > > > P.S. You can email me at vk3jed at optushome.com.au (haven't transferred > this > > list over to the new address yet). > > > > Tony, VK3JED > > > > .. (D)ance, (L)augh, (P)arty? > > -- > > |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 > > |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au > > | > > | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les Crossan" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Strange paths for the current tropical cyclones Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:13:20 +0100 Organization: Chaotic X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For atlantic weather watchers: Regarding the current crop of tropical revolving storms (currently 3 hurricanes, TCs or what have you) in the Atlantic atlantic SSTs are around +2C warmer than normal. The arctic ice sheet is melting with the cold surface water fairly obvious around Greenland. UK weather patterns are "all to hell". There's a thread on news:uk.sci.weather on this for those who are interested if you can't get that in your state then try www.mailgate.org and find uk.sci.weather Let's see some contributions from internationals (from my POV) on it! SSTs here: http://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/PUBLIC/ click sea surface anomoly. Les "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell." - Aldous Huxley == Les Crossan and Christine Challen, Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 55N 01-30W les.crossan at virgin.net www.uksevereweather.org.uk Wallsend StormCam: www.cc0020209.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wallsendstormcam.htm === Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system before leaving minerva.domain (www.grisoft.com) engine: 6.0.280 / Virus Database: 147 - Release Date: 11/09/2001 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Clarke" To: Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 6:47 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Strange paths for the current tropical cyclones > Phil > > Not particularly unusual to have three named storms in the Atlantic - but it > would have been unsusal to have three named as hurricanes (Gabrielle didn't > quite make it a hurricane threesome, almost though!). > > I don't see anything unusal about their motion either. > > However Typhoon Nari is quite unusal in its (loop-the-loop motion and even > now appears to be strengthening and moving toward Taiwan from a North > Easterly direction. > > However relating back to Australian circumstances - I find it very > frustrating that the world community cannot be consistent in dealing with > TCs, Hurricanes or Typhoons (whatever you want to call them) on an > equivalent basis as it makes comparisons quite difficult. > > > Regards > Simon > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Smith" > To: "Aussie-Weather" > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:48 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Strange paths for the current tropical cyclones > > > > Has anyone noticed the "strange" behaviour of several TCs at present. > > We have Hurricane Erin very close to Sable Island and predicted to be > > still at Tropical Storm strength when it makes a direct hit on Cape Race > > and possibly St John's Newfoundland within the next twenty-four hours. > > How often do TC's hit that far North? > > Then we have Hurricane Felix out in mid-Atlantic and predicted to be > > still at hurricane strength when it reaches Vila do Porto. Extrapolating > > its path forwards brings it close to the Mediterranean or the coast of > > Portugal within the week if it can hold its strength. Wow! > > Then Tropical Storm Gabrielle has done a U-turn and headed exactly along > > its previous path in the opposite direction and has hit the WEST coast of > > Florida just South of Tampa and is crossing Florida from West to East. > > Meanwhile, Tropical Storm Ivo is skirting along just off the coast of > > Baja California instead of heading West like NEP storms normally do. I > > expect however it will dissipate before it reaches Guadalupe. > > And lastly, in the NWP, Typhoon Nari has completed two complete "circles" > > and is now headed back across the East China Sea in the general direction > > of the Taiwan Strait. > > It is indeed strange to see five concurrent storms all following non- > > typical paths for their regions at the same time. > > And it is also rather rare (if my memory serves me correctly) to have > > three concurrent active named storms in the Atlantic basin. > > There are lots of links to info on all five storms on my page at > > http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for further reference. > > > > Stop Press! Latest forecast for Ivo, now downgraded to a TD, has it > > heading more typically out West. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: BRK Sounding Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:04:28 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Harald, To add to this, according the BoM sounding, we had LI's of -4.4C on Saturday over Brisbane, but not a shower in sight even with surface temps peaking around 27C and some moisture around. Plenty of cloud about but nothing got going due to capping just above 500hPa again as well as some weak inversions below this. Meanwhile a welcome return to humidity with a good onshore flow has at long last pushed overnight mins back into the mid teens. Sunday morning was just about perfect with a typical summer time feel to it, a nice NE flow with Cairns type of fair weather low level Cu in 4/8 sky. Today has us with a thin alto stratus/cirrus veil with flattish Cu below that with very little wind at present and quite sticky. Looks like typical pommy cricket weather. Feels like something could happen later even though it's not forecast. Regards, John W. >snip This morning's (12 sep 01 23Z) BRK (Rockhampton) sounding is a prime example how the Lifted Index (LI) can be deceiving as a stand-alone forecast tool. Despite LI = -1, there's (was) no hope of deep convection with a sizeable (~10 K) inversion just above 500 hPa. But note, we now have a deeper juicy (12 g/kg) airmass in place along coastal QLD N of the Bundaberg latitude. The next system with sufficiently deep amplitude should tap into that moisture (especially if/once the deep moisture progresses further S) and create some photogenic "entities." Harald +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: unusual warm temps in Coffs Hbr Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:03:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Blair, This is a most remarkable reading, which leads one to think it may have been suspect. What were temps like for nearby centres & Brisbane on that day? >snip It can get remarkably warm on the northern NSW coast in early spring, or even late winter. Yamba had a max of 36.1 on 13 August 1946; it is a very exposed site and 36 is very rare at any time of year (indeed, IIRC the 36.1 was the highest observed in any month in the period 1944-1952). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [141.132.128.52] From: "Leslie Baxter" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Chase images - 12/09/01 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 03:02:53 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Sep 2001 03:02:53.0830 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E849260:01C13F25] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey people I just bought myself a digital camera so I don't need to worry about films not developing much better, hehehehe it was only a cheap one well 140 bucks but it does all I need and it take prettty good pic of the weather which is what it's primarly to be used for it's fine and mild here but mid week is looking interesting cheers Les Baxter Ballarat Weather >From: "Paul Yole" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Chase images - 12/09/01 >Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 02:37:43 +1000 > >Yeah Michael, > >About time it was green too. The rainfall in August really >helped alot out here...even put some water back into the >storages (Was 11%, now up to 14% last I heard). Lets just >hope we get some more and a fairly weak summer with some >nice, 20-25C temps and lots of rain...that should make >things even better > >PaulY > >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of >michael king >Sent: Friday, 14 September 2001 18:30 >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase images - 12/09/01 > > >Real 'big sky country' you live in Paul. >Nice to see the Wimmera looking so green. > > > >From: "Paul Yole" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: "Wx-Chase" , "Australian Weather Mailing List" > >Subject: aus-wx: Chase images - 12/09/01 > >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:12:56 +1000 > > > >Hey all, > > > >Just thought I'd send out a quick email about the chase > >images that I got yesterday. Included is a Visible Sat >image > >of Victoria at the time the cell/s were at their peak. > > > >http://www.geocities.com/pauly78au/120901 > > > >PaulY > > > >Paul Yole > >Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA > >Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter > >Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA > >Cell # - +61 418 369 256 > >Home# - +61 35 385 2699 > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in >the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------- >------------- > > > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather >your_email_address" in the body of your >message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------- >-------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Anyone out there? Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:18:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've received next to no emails from the list in the last 48 hours or so. I'll take a guess and say the weather is not happening anywhere, just the same as here :-) Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p802-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.143.40] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:25:19 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: latest photos Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20010917.html http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20010905.html for those who were caught out in the troubles of the e-mails. I also would like to draw the link between the end of these as the Wyong Supercell photos (it has been confirmed a supercell) and the beginning of the photos in the first link. Do enjoy ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Anyone out there? Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 22:38:38 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Sep 2001 12:39:43.0195 (UTC) FILETIME=[D34E92B0:01C13F75] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Bussie. We are all still here, I have just come back from Echuca and witnessed the weakest of cold frontal passages on Sunday evening , this front was accompanied by just a finger width of cirrus and a few patches of alto cu, although it was interesting to see the Murray rise by almost 10cm over the two days we were there. regards Clyve H P.S also watched the grass grow.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bussie To: weather list Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:18 PM Subject: aus-wx: Anyone out there? > I've received next to no emails from the list in the last 48 hours or so. > I'll take a guess and say the weather is not happening anywhere, just the > same as here :-) > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.134.18.235] From: "adele jaunn" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Anyone out there? Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:35:40 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Sep 2001 12:35:40.0791 (UTC) FILETIME=[42D2A870:01C13F75] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Bussie and all! Adelaide has been quiet lately, but it's warming up with high 20's at the end of the week, which means that we might get some action soon! My fiance and I went to the SA ASWA meeting on Friday, and it was really good to catch up with other weather enthusiasts! Well, enjoy the storm season and keep watching the skies! ;-) Adele >From: "Bussie" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: "weather list" >Subject: aus-wx: Anyone out there? >Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:18:14 +1000 > >I've received next to no emails from the list in the last 48 hours or so. >I'll take a guess and say the weather is not happening anywhere, just the >same as here :-) >Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 22:54:06 +1000 From: David Carroll X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Anyone out there? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi bussie & All.. Well after my brilliant trip to Newcastle, which had its moments with a downpour and storm about 30km from Newcastle on F3. Had to slow down to 70km, with wipers on flat out. Rain was that heavy.. Few lightning strikes also. Sat & Sunday were quite hot days with no storms in site. Sat around having BBQ on Sunday arvo with 30 oddd friends. Drove back home Sunday afternoon to Bathurst. Dave Bussie wrote: > > I've received next to no emails from the list in the last 48 hours or so. > I'll take a guess and say the weather is not happening anywhere, just the > same as here :-) > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Thanks to all of the photographers out there Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 06:25:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, I'd like to thank all of the photographers among the group for making available to us all their images of what we are all so passionate about (this is especially heartfelt from someone who hasn't had a thunderday since April.....). Some of you have some real talent there!! and it's nice to see people taking pictures of weather in all its guises. Keep up the great work guys!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.29.156.5] From: "T Middleton" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: latest photos Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:02:08 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Sep 2001 21:02:09.0000 (UTC) FILETIME=[039B5E80:01C13FBC] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hi jimmy, Some awesome structure shots there of that supercell! well done and thanks for posting them. regards Tony Anvil Industries http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils >From: Jimmy Deguara >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: latest photos >Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:25:19 +1000 > >http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20010917.html > >http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20010905.html >for those who were caught out in the troubles of the e-mails. I also would >like to draw the link between the end of these as the Wyong Supercell >photos (it has been confirmed a supercell) and the beginning of the photos >in the first link. > >Do enjoy > >----------------------------------------- >Jimmy Deguara >Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > >from >Schofields, Sydney >NSW Australia > >e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > >Web Page with Michael Bath > >Australian Severe Weather Home Page >http://www.australiasevereweather.com > >President of the Australian Severe Weather Association >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:27:52 +1000 From: Chas & Helen Osborn Organization: UniDial Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Anyone out there? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Bussie wrote: > > I'll take a guess and say the weather is not happening anywhere, just the > same as here :-) > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria Hello Bussie We are still getting some weather here but it is what you would expect for us in a westerly stream (strong wind here gale force to our south, alternating showers drizzle rain with enough fine breaks to keep us sane). Chas Strahan Tasmania +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:53:50 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: interesting Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A few towers are going up west of Newcastle, in the general Maitland/Hexam area. Sounding is a little interesting, if you a temp in the low 20's it is unstable to from the sfc to about 600, after that things will struggle to get through... but there is a very nice moisture haze around, and maybe late this afternoon something may kick off. See what happens anyway. Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Max King" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: interesting Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:11:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Similar here at Wenty Matt, heres hoping :) Max ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:53 PM Subject: aus-wx: interesting > > A few towers are going up west of Newcastle, in the general > Maitland/Hexam area. Sounding is a little interesting, if you a temp in > the low 20's it is unstable to from the sfc to about 600, after that > things will struggle to get through... but there is a very nice moisture > haze around, and maybe late this afternoon something may kick off. > See what happens anyway. > > Matt Smith > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:32:20 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Request for a Darwin sounding in dry season Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all I don't like my chances on this one, but would anyone have saved a Darwin sounding taken sometime during the dry season? You know, one where there is a huge temperature inversion at say ~700mb with dry boundary layer. Yeah, I know it's sick :-) Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 18 Sep 01 19:48:01 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: King low. Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Max! 16 Sep 01 19:03, you wrote to All: MK> I spent the day up in Newcastle, and it was REALLY warm up there MK> although a bit cooler at Dixon Park Beach :) Hehe. :) Well, seems the warm spell is set tp continue. 25 expected tomorrow. Roll on summer! Tony, VK3JED -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 18 Sep 01 19:50:05 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Anyone out there? Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Bussie! 17 Sep 01 20:18, you wrote to weather list: B> I'll take a guess and say the weather is not happening anywhere, just B> the same as here :-) Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) Hmm yes, there is an atmosphere there, so the weather's still on. :-) The list has been active lately, so might be a holdup your end? Tony, VK3JED -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:41:21 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Anyone out there? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:27 18/09/01 +1000, you wrote: > > >Bussie wrote: > >> >> I'll take a guess and say the weather is not happening anywhere, just the >> same as here :-) >> Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria We never get any interesting weather here (Christchurch, New Zealand)that's why I haven't posted for ages, unless you guys wants lots of posts about fine, sunny days or cloudy days with nothing happening! JohnGaul NZ Fine Weather Society. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: South African cut-off low & Indian Ocean low Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:45:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, There's a rather interesting low pressure system out in the Indian Ocean at about 35S.....it seems to be currently sitting between the South African forecast region & the West Australian forecast region.......so I can't get any info about it except to see that it has a tropical infeed (although not very strong) & doesn't seem to be a particularly deep low atm but is generating quite a lot of cloud! Also found a report on the South African cut-off low of 5th September which produced wave heights of 17metres (ahem....56 feet!!!) http://www.weathersa.co.za/news/storms592001.htm 14.4C at 100m & 12C at 502m on Mt Dandenong atm!!! Don't think that low level lapse rate will get much more than a birthday party balloon off the ground What lapse rate does that actually work out to be? (after 30 years, I'm still struggling with DALR conversions.....) Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:42:34 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Wyong storm photos Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here are a few photographs of the storm http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2001/September1.htm The list seems a bit slow... im not sure all emails are getting through, hope this does! The convection to the west here died off about an hour later.., things look to be getting alot warmer this week! I love spring ! :) Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:46:31 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Request for a Darwin sounding in dry season Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert, They do soundings in Darwin during the dry season!? j/k :) Perhaps try the Wyoming site: http://www-das.uwyo.edu/upperair/au.html This interface was supposedly going to be phased out by September 1, but it still works, and has archives of soundings back to 1995! AC Robert Goler wrote: > > Hi all > > I don't like my chances on this one, but would anyone have saved a Darwin > sounding taken sometime during the dry season? You know, one where there > is a huge temperature inversion at say ~700mb with dry boundary layer. > Yeah, I know it's sick :-) > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > School of Mathematical Sciences > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Williams, Dion" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: aus-wx: Sydney 4:35pm Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:42:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sydney 4:35pm

Nice cell in green west of Bowral moving towards the Illawarra at present. Doesn't look like a lot of activity elsewhere but we live in hope..

Subject: aus-wx: Blackout In Alstonville/Wollongbar To: stormboy2003 at hotmail.com, aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 From: "David Carroll" Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:00:38 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Domino/Advance(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 18/09/2001 05:00:38 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI Dave I have just called the Control room in Port Macquarie and have some news for you.. Last night 2 66,000 volt transformers in the Substation at Alstonville both died last night.. At the moment they suspect a underground cable blown.. A new transformer has been ordered and been brought in.. 5000 customers were affected, only 60 are still off now. Most are being powered from back feeding other sub stations in Lismore.. This I say is alot of work. Its unsure if they will change Tx tonight as it getting late and more people would be turned off to repair.. Hope this is some help for you.. Are you still off now Dave.. ?? regards Dave Carroll. Bathurst,. ----- Forwarded by David Carroll/Advance on 18/09/2001 04:53 PM ----- "Dave Ellem" cc: Subject: Blackout In Alstonville/Wollongbar 18/09/2001 03:56 PM Hi David, I know that on the weather list you give us updates of power outages due to severe weather. Well, this isn't severe weather, but we have what appears to be major blackouts in the Alstonville/Wollongbar area in the Northern Rivers. The power went out a approx 7pm in most places last night and has been out most places all morning. There is now a large generator hooked up to the power lines in every 2nd street or so (including my school, which cancelled my maths exam today because there wasn't any power before they hooked up the generator), with a HUGE generator in the main street. I know that being a part of the former Advance Energy, you may not know what happens here, but I was wondering if you did know anything about this problem ie what is causing it and how long will the towns be on generators? No worries if you have no idea!! Thankyou Dave Ellem Storm Chaser From Wollongbar, Northern Rivers, NE NSW _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 06:54:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Slightly off topic but if I've got this right, on Saturday 22nd we should be halfway between the longest and shortest days and therefore the sun will rise exactly in the East and set exactly in the West. That's all for today's trivia lesson.......... Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Lyle Pakula" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:19:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com isn't that only on the equator? cheers, lyle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:54 PM Subject: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > Slightly off topic but if I've got this right, on Saturday 22nd we should be > halfway between the longest and shortest days and therefore the sun will > rise exactly in the East and set exactly in the West. That's all for today's > trivia lesson.......... > > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:13:10 +1000 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I believe it's everywhere on the equinox except the north and south pole where it just hugs the horizon for 360 degrees. Mark Hardy The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. http://www.theweather.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Lyle Pakula Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 8:20 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set isn't that only on the equator? cheers, lyle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:54 PM Subject: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > Slightly off topic but if I've got this right, on Saturday 22nd we > should be > halfway between the longest and shortest days and therefore the sun > will rise exactly in the East and set exactly in the West. That's all > for today's > trivia lesson.......... > > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: South African cut-off low & Indian Ocean low Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:15:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2001 23:16:06.0394 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4AE1DA0:01C14097] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Jane. This cut off was weakening yesterday,the system developed southwest of the jet a few days ago and seems associated with an equatorward mid level cold pool protrusion, the infeed is drawing upper moisture from west of Indonesia. Typically this low is slow moving but such systems can also be very persistent and long lived.regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane ONeill To: Aussie-wx Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:45 PM Subject: aus-wx: South African cut-off low & Indian Ocean low > Evening all, > > There's a rather interesting low pressure system out in the Indian Ocean > at about 35S.....it seems to be currently sitting between the South > African forecast region & the West Australian forecast region.......so I > can't get any info about it except to see that it has a tropical infeed > (although not very strong) & doesn't seem to be a particularly deep low > atm but is generating quite a lot of cloud! > > Also found a report on the South African cut-off low of 5th September > which produced wave heights of 17metres (ahem....56 feet!!!) > http://www.weathersa.co.za/news/storms592001.htm > > 14.4C at 100m & 12C at 502m on Mt Dandenong atm!!! Don't think that low > level lapse rate will get much more than a birthday party balloon off > the ground What lapse rate does that actually work out to be? > (after 30 years, I'm still struggling with DALR conversions.....) > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p73-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.140.73] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:57:41 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The equinox is simply the length of the day, i.e., two 12 hour periods of light and dark. The concept of east and west risings and settings is WRONG. What happens is this. The azimuth of "apparent" rise and set for any observer depends on where they are. The apparent rise and set azimuth varies meridonally from one pole to the other. At the south pole the sun does a complete 360 on the horizon as Mark says. In effect, the sun neither rises or sets, the angle between the two events is zero. As you move north the rising point gradually moves anticlockwise towards 170 and the setting point clockwise towards 190. As you move further north, the rising tends anticlockwise towards 090 and the setting point clockwise towards 270. Only at the plane of the ecliptic, is rising and setting east and west (090 and 270 respectively), but that is not at the equator either, due to the fact that the earth is tilted on it's axis. There are only 2 points on the equator that intersect the plane of the ecliptic. In any case, the apparent azimuth of east west rising and setting does occur around the line of the ecliptic, which is tilted from the equator by the angle of earths inclination. As you move further north into the northern hemisphere the effect is reversed, risings still recess anticlockwise towards 080 and settings clockwise towards 280. As you continue further towards the north pole the azimuth of rising and settings get closer together and centred around 000. By the time you are in the high latitudes it is back to 010 and 350 respectively, and when you get to the north pole, you have the same as the south pole, i.e., the sun sits on the horizon and does a full 360. In other words, it neither rises or sets as such, the azimuth angle between the two (indistinguishable) events is zero. Hope this helps. Mark Hardy wrote: > I believe it's everywhere on the equinox except the north and south pole > where it just hugs the horizon for 360 degrees. > > Mark Hardy > The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. > http://www.theweather.com.au > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Lyle Pakula > Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 8:20 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > > isn't that only on the equator? > > cheers, lyle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bussie" > To: "weather list" > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:54 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > > > Slightly off topic but if I've got this right, on Saturday 22nd we > > should > be > > halfway between the longest and shortest days and therefore the sun > > will rise exactly in the East and set exactly in the West. That's all > > for > today's > > trivia lesson.......... > > > > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:04:50 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Gees, if what Peter said was correct, then why on earth call it "The Equinox" as in Peter's explanation there would _only_ be 2 places on Earth which would truely experience "equal day, equal night". For a proper explanation and a hands on feel, try going to the online planetarium at: http://www.fourmilab.to/yoursky/#Horizon This site shows how the sky looks (stars and planets) from any location on Earth. Just vary the latitude to test for yourself that the sun will indeed rise due east and set due west during the Equinox. If this seems rather involved, I've prepared some views of the evening sky from 3 locations at Melb's longitude. equator: http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/equinox/0S.html 35S http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/equinox/35S.html 80S http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/equinox/80S.html So, the sun sets due west and rises due east, and will spend 12 hours above the horizon, and 12 hours below, except of course at the poles which has already been pointed out. At the poles (and without an atmosphere), half of the sun would be above the horizon, and half would be below, so in quirky kind of way you could say that since half a sun is up for 24 hours, then a full sun is up for 12 hours. :) BTW, don't attempt to click on any of the links that are shown in my 3 plots, as I've basically just copied those output pages from what the planterium produces. On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Peter Creswick wrote: > The equinox is simply the length of the day, i.e., two 12 hour periods of > light and dark. The concept of east and west risings and settings is WRONG. > What happens is this. The azimuth of "apparent" rise and set for any observer > depends on where they are. The apparent rise and set azimuth varies > meridonally from one pole to the other. At the south pole the sun does a > complete 360 on the horizon as Mark says. In effect, the sun neither rises or > sets, the angle between the two events is zero. As you move north the rising > point gradually moves anticlockwise towards 170 and the setting point > clockwise towards 190. As you move further north, the rising tends > anticlockwise towards 090 and the setting point clockwise towards 270. Only at > the plane of the ecliptic, is rising and setting east and west (090 and 270 > respectively), but that is not at the equator either, due to the fact that the > earth is tilted on it's axis. There are only 2 points on the equator that > intersect the plane of the ecliptic. In any case, the apparent azimuth of > east west rising and setting does occur around the line of the ecliptic, which > is tilted from the equator by the angle of earths inclination. As you move > further north into the northern hemisphere the effect is reversed, risings > still recess anticlockwise towards 080 and settings clockwise towards 280. As > you continue further towards the north pole the azimuth of rising and settings > get closer together and centred around 000. By the time you are in the high > latitudes it is back to 010 and 350 respectively, and when you get to the > north pole, you have the same as the south pole, i.e., the sun sits on the > horizon and does a full 360. In other words, it neither rises or sets as > such, the azimuth angle between the two (indistinguishable) events is zero. > Hope this helps. > Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:34:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Or for the slightly simpler explanation... At the spring & autumn equinox, the sun rises & sets coincidentally for any point along a line of longitude between the poles, therefore it must be directly due East & West. John. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:57:42 +1000 (AEST) From: Jonty Hall To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well, here we have a classic case of seemingly small and subtle effects turning something that should be bleeding obvious into something infuriatingly confusing. But basically, the original idea is absolutely _correct_. To a good degree of approximation, the sun _does_ rise in the east and set in the west on the day of the equinox _at any point on the earth's surface_ (even the poles - see below). The confusion arises due to: 1. The equinox is a point in time, not a whole day. So to be absolutely precise, the sun only rises in the east and sets in the west at those points that are experiencing a sunrise or sunset at the instant of the equinox. This is a pretty finicky point though and at most longitudes, we are only talking a minute fraction of a degree from due east and west. In fact you have to get within a few kilometres of the exact pole for this to become at all important. 2. The sun does not appear to us as a point source - it has an apparent finite disc. If we did see it as a point source, to an observer close to the poles, it _would_ rise and set on equinox day, and in the respective hemispheres, it would do so in the east for the rising hemisphere and set in the west for the other one. Exactly at the poles, this would not be true due to point 1. above. In fact, this is all not quite true due to... 3. The earth has an atmosphere, which refracts the light from the sun, and makes it appear to be at a slightly higher altitude than it really is. Due to this, there is actually slightly more than half of the earth's surface in sunlight at any time. And in fact, you will find that for the next few days, _both_ poles will be receiving 24 hours of sunlight at the same time (ignoring clouds etc of course). 4. The earth is not flat. Your local topography will alter the sunrise/set times and therefore the azimuth as well. This is not a factor at sea of course (or at Cook on the Nullabor, which someone told me is one of the only places on land where it is so flat you can see the natural horizon for 360 degrees - not sure if its true or not, but its a good story...) 5. Getting _seriously_ pedantic about it (!), the earth is not a perfect sphere - it is (almost) an oblate spheroid due to its rotation on its axis. In fact, it is not even that, due to tidal effects of the moon, the sun, Jupiter.... the list goes on. I have no idea what effect this has other than it would be bloody tiny. So, all in all, you could say that if you were to ignore all these little details (which is an _extremely_ good approximation at most points on the earth's surface), then the sun DOES rise in the east AND set in the west anywhere on the earth at the equinox!! Sorry I have gone so in depth here, but I think it is a classic case of not being able to see the wood for the trees... Jonty. On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Peter Creswick wrote: > The equinox is simply the length of the day, i.e., two 12 hour periods of > light and dark. The concept of east and west risings and settings is WRONG. > What happens is this. The azimuth of "apparent" rise and set for any observer > depends on where they are. The apparent rise and set azimuth varies > meridonally from one pole to the other. At the south pole the sun does a > complete 360 on the horizon as Mark says. In effect, the sun neither rises or > sets, the angle between the two events is zero. As you move north the rising > point gradually moves anticlockwise towards 170 and the setting point > clockwise towards 190. As you move further north, the rising tends > anticlockwise towards 090 and the setting point clockwise towards 270. Only at > the plane of the ecliptic, is rising and setting east and west (090 and 270 > respectively), but that is not at the equator either, due to the fact that the > earth is tilted on it's axis. There are only 2 points on the equator that > intersect the plane of the ecliptic. In any case, the apparent azimuth of > east west rising and setting does occur around the line of the ecliptic, which > is tilted from the equator by the angle of earths inclination. As you move > further north into the northern hemisphere the effect is reversed, risings > still recess anticlockwise towards 080 and settings clockwise towards 280. As > you continue further towards the north pole the azimuth of rising and settings > get closer together and centred around 000. By the time you are in the high > latitudes it is back to 010 and 350 respectively, and when you get to the > north pole, you have the same as the south pole, i.e., the sun sits on the > horizon and does a full 360. In other words, it neither rises or sets as > such, the azimuth angle between the two (indistinguishable) events is zero. > Hope this helps. > > Mark Hardy wrote: > > > I believe it's everywhere on the equinox except the north and south pole > > where it just hugs the horizon for 360 degrees. > > > > Mark Hardy > > The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. > > http://www.theweather.com.au > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Lyle Pakula > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 8:20 AM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > > > > isn't that only on the equator? > > > > cheers, lyle > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bussie" > > To: "weather list" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:54 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > > > > > Slightly off topic but if I've got this right, on Saturday 22nd we > > > should > > be > > > halfway between the longest and shortest days and therefore the sun > > > will rise exactly in the East and set exactly in the West. That's all > > > for > > today's > > > trivia lesson.......... > > > > > > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Hardy \(home\)" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:43:18 +1000 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com No, it's everywhere except the north and south pole where it just hugs the horizon for 360 degrees. Mark Hardy The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. http://www.theweather.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Lyle Pakula Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 8:20 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set isn't that only on the equator? cheers, lyle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:54 PM Subject: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > Slightly off topic but if I've got this right, on Saturday 22nd we > should be > halfway between the longest and shortest days and therefore the sun > will rise exactly in the East and set exactly in the West. That's all > for today's > trivia lesson.......... > > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.1.3108 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:23:45 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set From: Greg Stewart To: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com on 19/9/01 12:57 PM, Jonty Hall at jdh at vortex.shm.monash.edu.au wrote: > Well, here we have a classic case of seemingly small and subtle effects > turning something that should be bleeding obvious into something > infuriatingly confusing. But basically, the original idea is absolutely > _correct_. To a good degree of approximation, the sun _does_ rise in the > east and set in the west on the day of the equinox _at any point on the > earth's surface_ (even the poles - see below). The confusion arises due > to: > > 1. The equinox is a point in time, not a whole day. So to be absolutely > precise, the sun only rises in the east and sets in the west at those > points that are experiencing a sunrise or sunset at the instant of the > equinox. This is a pretty finicky point though and at most longitudes, we > are only talking a minute fraction of a degree from due east and west. In > fact you have to get within a few kilometres of the exact pole for this to > become at all important. > > 2. The sun does not appear to us as a point source - it has an apparent > finite disc. If we did see it as a point source, to an observer close to > the poles, it _would_ rise and set on equinox day, and in the respective > hemispheres, it would do so in the east for the rising hemisphere and set > in the west for the other one. Exactly at the poles, this would not be > true due to point 1. above. In fact, this is all not quite true due to... > > 3. The earth has an atmosphere, which refracts the light from the sun, and > makes it appear to be at a slightly higher altitude than it really is. > Due to this, there is actually slightly more than half of the earth's > surface in sunlight at any time. And in fact, you will find that for the > next few days, _both_ poles will be receiving 24 hours of sunlight at the > same time (ignoring clouds etc of course). > > 4. The earth is not flat. Your local topography will alter the sunrise/set > times and therefore the azimuth as well. This is not a factor at sea of > course (or at Cook on the Nullabor, which someone told me is one of the > only places on land where it is so flat you can see the natural horizon > for 360 degrees - not sure if its true or not, but its a good story...) > > 5. Getting _seriously_ pedantic about it (!), the earth is not a perfect > sphere - it is (almost) an oblate spheroid due to its rotation on its > axis. In fact, it is not even that, due to tidal effects of the moon, the > sun, Jupiter.... the list goes on. I have no idea what effect this has > other than it would be bloody tiny. > > So, all in all, you could say that if you were to ignore all these little > details (which is an _extremely_ good approximation at most points on the > earth's surface), then the sun DOES rise in the east AND set in the west > anywhere on the earth at the equinox!! > > Sorry I have gone so in depth here, but I think it is a classic case of > not being able to see the wood for the trees... > > Jonty. > > > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Peter Creswick wrote: > >> The equinox is simply the length of the day, i.e., two 12 hour periods of >> light and dark. The concept of east and west risings and settings is WRONG. >> What happens is this. The azimuth of "apparent" rise and set for any >> observer >> depends on where they are. The apparent rise and set azimuth varies >> meridonally from one pole to the other. At the south pole the sun does a >> complete 360 on the horizon as Mark says. In effect, the sun neither rises >> or >> sets, the angle between the two events is zero. As you move north the rising >> point gradually moves anticlockwise towards 170 and the setting point >> clockwise towards 190. As you move further north, the rising tends >> anticlockwise towards 090 and the setting point clockwise towards 270. Only >> at >> the plane of the ecliptic, is rising and setting east and west (090 and 270 >> respectively), but that is not at the equator either, due to the fact that >> the >> earth is tilted on it's axis. There are only 2 points on the equator that >> intersect the plane of the ecliptic. In any case, the apparent azimuth of >> east west rising and setting does occur around the line of the ecliptic, >> which >> is tilted from the equator by the angle of earths inclination. As you move >> further north into the northern hemisphere the effect is reversed, risings >> still recess anticlockwise towards 080 and settings clockwise towards 280. >> As >> you continue further towards the north pole the azimuth of rising and >> settings >> get closer together and centred around 000. By the time you are in the high >> latitudes it is back to 010 and 350 respectively, and when you get to the >> north pole, you have the same as the south pole, i.e., the sun sits on the >> horizon and does a full 360. In other words, it neither rises or sets as >> such, the azimuth angle between the two (indistinguishable) events is zero. >> Hope this helps. >> >> Mark Hardy wrote: >> And I bet it even rises tomorrow (without anyone's help) Greg +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.9.51.36] From: "James Harris" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Bit of ACT humour Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:30:35 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2001 06:30:35.0814 (UTC) FILETIME=[9743EC60:01C140D4] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I had to laugh when I read the latest ACT forecast situation notes on the BOM website today ........ if only all states had notes like these ! SITUATION: Not surprisingly, the current weather pattern has more in common with summer than early spring. A weak change will move across the southeast of the mainland late Thursday, and like some of the recent changes, weaken out. This will allow winds to tend back to the north quickly over the weekend, maintaining the above average temperatures. The warm temperatures do however enhance the potential for some showers and thunderstorms, the preferred times being Thursday afternoon and Friday, and also on late on Monday when the next change is due. Whilst some activity can't be discounted over the weekend, at this stage it appears less likely. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.65.130] From: "Rune Peitersen" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: summer in Syd Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:39:47 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2001 06:39:47.0410 (UTC) FILETIME=[E00ACB20:01C140D5] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey everyone, in Sydney today it was 28C and felt like it too!, starting to see very warm to hots in the forecasts, was some summery looking cumulus developing on the ranges from 10am onwards, maybe tomorrow and friday they will make it to congestus and cumulonimbus status with the warm temps, I like the ACT notes on the weather page too, Sydney should have one; EXPLANATORY NOTES: Issued at 4:10pm on Wednesday the 19th of September 2001 Notes on the Chart and Expected Developments: Not surprisingly, the current weather pattern has more in common with summer than early spring. A weak change will move across the southeast of the mainland late Thursday, and like some of the recent changes, weaken out. This will allow winds to tend back to the north quickly over the weekend, maintaining the above average temperatures. The warm temperatures do however enhance the potential for some showers and thunderstorms, the preferred times being Thursday afternoon and Friday, and also on late on Monday when the next change is due. Whilst some activity can't be discounted over the weekend, at this stage it appears less likely. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: "Australian Severe Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: aus- wx: INTERESTING PICTURES Fw: Earth Observatory: What's New Week of 09/13/2001 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:43:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Tara Hess To: Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 6:13 AM Subject: Earth Observatory: What's New Week of 09/13/2001 > The latest from NASA's Earth Observatory (09/13/2001) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > New Features: > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Study/ > > * Measure for Measure (DAAC Study) > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Study/SeaLevel > Governments and policy makers turn to science to better understand the > impacts of global sea level rise on coastal cities. > > -------------------- > > New Reference: > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Library/ > > * Ultraviolet Radiation: How It Affects Life on Earth > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Library/UVB > Stratospheric ozone depletion due to human activities has resulted in an > increase of ultraviolet radiation on the Earth's surface. The article > describes some effects on human health, aquatic ecosystems, agricultural > plants and other living things, and explains how much ultraviolet radiation > we are currently getting and how we measure it. > > > -------------------- > > In the News: > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/ > > * Latest Images: > Aftermath of World Trade Center Attack > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=5155 > > Tragedy in New York City > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=5154 > > Hurricane Erin > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=5153 > > Deadly Fire in Kruger National Park, South Africa > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=5152 > > African Dust Blows over the Caribbean > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=5151 > > Drought in the Klamath River Basin > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=5150 > > A Panoramic View of the Emigrant Gap Fire, California > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=5149 > > Flooding Along the Nile River > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=5148 > > * NASA News > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NasaNews/ > - Remotely Piloted Aircraft to Provide Images on Internet for > Firefighters > > * Headlines from the press, radio, and television: > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/Headlines/ > - It's Back and Big > - Rapid Antarctic Warming Puzzle > - World Coral Reefs to Die by 2050, Scientist Warns > - Warming Effect on UK Wildlife > - Northern Hemisphere Getting Greener > - Lake Beds Yield Climate Change Secrets > - Global Climate Change Could Disturb Ocean's Ecosystem > - Saharan Dust Tied to Florida Algae > > * New Research Highlights > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/Research/ > > -------------------- > > New Data: > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Observatory/ > > * Updated Data: > 4km TRMM Fires data for July 2001 > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Observatory/Datasets/fires.trmm.html > > > > > - > Earth Observatory Announcements > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov > To unsubscribe: send body "unsubscribe eo-announce " > to majordomo at eodomo.gsfc.nasa.gov +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: Off Topic - Travel Mate/Map Maker To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 From: "David Carroll" Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:30:06 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Domino/Advance(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 19/09/2001 04:30:06 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all.. Unsure if people have seen this, there is a fantastic Map Maker on this page. http://www.travelmate.com.au/Home/Home.asp?TM_Page=Home Check it out.. I have tried one from Bathurst to Orange for e.g http://www.nowwhereroute.com/scripts/hsrun.exe/mapmaker/mapmaker/StateId/BJkfM62ijeKhRkj1YPsM5Ia0Jx/HAHTpage/HS_MakeMapPage Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. 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Cheers Simon Angell Canberra. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Carroll" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 4:30 PM Subject: aus-wx: Off Topic - Travel Mate/Map Maker > Hi all.. > > Unsure if people have seen this, there is a fantastic Map Maker on this > page. > > > http://www.travelmate.com.au/Home/Home.asp?TM_Page=Home > > > Check it out.. I have tried one from Bathurst to Orange for e.g > http://www.nowwhereroute.com/scripts/hsrun.exe/mapmaker/mapmaker/StateId/BJk fM62ijeKhRkj1YPsM5Ia0Jx/HAHTpage/HS_MakeMapPage > > Dave > > > > > ############################################################################ ######### > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the > sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are > not necessarily the views of Country Energy. > ############################################################################ ######### > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Lyle Pakula" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:40:57 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I didn't think that litle comment would spark an argument. The sun most definatly only rises in the east/west at the equator. If your inclined towards absoloute specifics and want to include the wobble of the roation axis, thats your choice, goto the complete declination equation and have a look. If your like me and prefer to understand whats going on, simply draw planet earth with it's axis of rotation vertical and the sun at the center. The only place on earth where you get a line running perpendicular to the axis of rotation is as the equator. It's that simple. As a side note, during the southern hemisphere summer solsitce, the sun will rise/set in the true east/west on the tropic of capricorn. Furthermore, for those that acknowledge it can't rise in the true east/west at the pole, you must then be able to convince yourself there is a gradient of declination angles that exist between the equator and the pole. hope this helps, lyle p.s. i checked this with some satallite guys in my group. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hardy (home)" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:43 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > No, it's everywhere except the north and south pole where it just hugs > the horizon for 360 degrees. > > Mark Hardy > The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. > http://www.theweather.com.au > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Lyle Pakula > Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 8:20 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > > > isn't that only on the equator? > > cheers, lyle > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bussie" > To: "weather list" > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:54 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > > > > Slightly off topic but if I've got this right, on Saturday 22nd we > > should > be > > halfway between the longest and shortest days and therefore the sun > > will rise exactly in the East and set exactly in the West. That's all > > for > today's > > trivia lesson.......... > > > > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 06:24:20 +1000 (AEST) From: Jonty Hall To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I know celestial mechanics is not quite weather related, but I guess sunrises and sunsets are close enough to qualify (we get enough phone calls at the bureau about them anyway!) Lyle - I'm afraid you are completely incorrect, and so are your satellite guys. I'm sitting here at work in lovely Brisbane (lat 27S) and the sun is rising more or less due east. And furthermore, it will set more or less due west this arvo. I can guarantee you that if you do the same thing over there in Colorado (lat 35N?), you will observe the same thing. As would Jane in Victoria or Les in England or my mate at Casey in Antarctica. Of course, this is only true at the equinoxes, not any other time of year. What has putting the sun at the centre of the earth got to do with anything? This is a completely erroneous way of looking at it. The only thing that changes as you change latitudes is the angle the path of the sun makes with the horizon. At the equator, it rises due east, and rises perpendicularly to the horizon to the zenith, then sets due west. At other latitudes it makes a smaller angle with the horizon and does not pass directly overhead, but it still rises (sets) due east (west). And those who acknowledge that it doesn't do so at the poles are incorrect as well. It does. Near the poles (for the sake of argument, lets consider the spring pole), the sun does NOT do a complete 360 circle in the sky. It is actually spiralling slowly upwards (each day it is a little bit higher). You will find that the point on the spiral at which the centre of the sun cuts the horizon will be in actual fact, you guessed it, due east. (And at the autumn pole the point at which the decending spiral hits the horizon is due west). Of course, at the exact pole this breaks down as there is no such thing as east or west anyway, and the angle the sun makes with the horizon is so small that the exact time of the equinox becomes a critical factor, but more than few kilometers or so away it is true. It is also entirely incorrect that the sun rises (sets) due east (west) on the Tropic of Capricorn at the summer solstice. Jonty. On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Lyle Pakula wrote: > I didn't think that litle comment would spark an argument. The sun most > definatly only rises in the east/west at the equator. If your inclined > towards absoloute specifics and want to include the wobble of the roation > axis, thats your choice, goto the complete declination equation and have a > look. > > If your like me and prefer to understand whats going on, simply draw planet > earth with it's axis of rotation vertical and the sun at the center. The > only place on earth where you get a line running perpendicular to the axis > of rotation is as the equator. It's that simple. As a side note, during the > southern hemisphere summer solsitce, the sun will rise/set in the true > east/west on the tropic of capricorn. > > Furthermore, for those that acknowledge it can't rise in the true east/west > at the pole, you must then be able to convince yourself there is a gradient > of declination angles that exist between the equator and the pole. > > hope this helps, lyle > > p.s. i checked this with some satallite guys in my group. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Hardy (home)" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:43 PM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > > > > No, it's everywhere except the north and south pole where it just hugs > > the horizon for 360 degrees. > > > > Mark Hardy > > The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. > > http://www.theweather.com.au > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Lyle Pakula > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 8:20 AM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > > > > > > isn't that only on the equator? > > > > cheers, lyle > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bussie" > > To: "weather list" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:54 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > > > > > > > Slightly off topic but if I've got this right, on Saturday 22nd we > > > should > > be > > > halfway between the longest and shortest days and therefore the sun > > > will rise exactly in the East and set exactly in the West. That's all > > > for > > today's > > > trivia lesson.......... > > > > > > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p885-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.143.123] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 06:47:18 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Thunderstorms today Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I will give it another go. Although thunderstorms look better chance for tomorrow, I will leave that for later. Today it seems that thunderstorms will mainly develop along the ranges and drift along the ranges but slow moving nevertheless. But there still is a reasonable chance that western parts of Sydney could see some of the thunderstorms drifting off. The S change may help the development along the Southern Tablelands later. Wind shear is weak but reasonably interesting. Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Gravity really gets me down :-) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 06:55:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Got a couple of dodgy questions to ask. Never good at the sciences at school as I was probably standing in the corner. The earth (roughly) is 24,000 miles around at the equator and the earth turns around every 24 hours. This means that we are actually spinning at 1,000 miles an hour, give or take a few. This may sound funny but why isn't it really windy then? Is the atmosphere "glued" to the ground with gravity also and basically spins with the globe? Bussie to the head masters office....... Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Trough SE Aus. Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:40:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2001 22:41:52.0039 (UTC) FILETIME=[469A2B70:01C1415C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. The trough moving through Southeast Aus this morning may be good for our NSW chasers, should see some local activity along the trough line as it edges slowly eastward, however the southern portion of the trough should move rather quickly through southern Vic and then shear off to the Tasman leaving a slow moving trough over inland NSW, which may be a good thing for the central Tablelands for Friday, the trough looks as if it may weaken after Friday as another high builds 'around the corner'....still its the first summer looking change I have seen this season best wishes Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay Organization: Davsoft To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Trough SE Aus. Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:56:56 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:40, clyve herbert hit his keyboard with his head and the result was this: > The trough moving through Southeast Aus this morning may be good for our > NSW chasers, should see some local activity along the trough line as it > edges slowly eastward, however the southern portion of the trough should > move rather quickly through southern Vic and then shear off to the Tasman > leaving a slow moving trough over inland NSW, which may be a good thing for > the central Tablelands for Friday, the trough looks as if it may weaken > after Friday as another high builds 'around the corner'....still its the > first summer looking change I have seen this season best wishes Clyve H. There's a nice spinup to the SW of WA too. David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:14:14 +1000 From: Andrew Miskelly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Gravity really gets me down :-) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Because space is a void (it has little/no matter) it doesn't matter (?!) how fast we spin - there's no friction between the atmosphere and anything else to make the atmosphere move quickly (wind). As you've mentioned, the atmosphere is 'glued to the ground' and the movement of air is due to the differences in pressure that occur due to uneven heating of the surface etc... It helps to think of earth as one big ball of matter rather than a ball of solid matter plus a shell of gaseous matter (the atmosphere). So, rather than living on the surface of the earth, we live a few layers down into it - on the surface of the solid matter. The reason winds move in a circular fashion rather that just straight in or out of pressure cells is due to the rotation of the earth - known as the Coriolis effect. Andrew. Bussie wrote: > > Got a couple of dodgy questions to ask. Never good at the sciences at school > as I was probably standing in the corner. > The earth (roughly) is 24,000 miles around at the equator and the earth > turns around every 24 hours. This means that we are actually spinning at > 1,000 miles an hour, give or take a few. This may sound funny but why isn't > it really windy then? Is the atmosphere "glued" to the ground with gravity > also and basically spins with the globe? > Bussie to the head masters office....... > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:14:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It seems the slightly simpler explanation needs to be expanded... At the spring & autumn equinox, the sun rises & sets coincidentally for any point along a line of longitude between the poles, i.e., the line separating sunshine and darkness is parallel and coincident with a line of longitude. Therefore the incident light at any point must be at exactly 90 degrees, i.e., due East & West. Imagine your little globe with lines of latitude and longitude spinning on its inclined axis with light from a distance shining on it. Make the inclination tangential to the source of light (which is the case at spring/autumn equinoxes) and the above is obvious. It is quite easy to visualise. At precisely the poles there is no East & West, so the matter is quite moot. Also of course there are all these minor variations Jonty mentions but I doubt these are usually taken into account for published sunrise/set times. Maybe just for fun, we could now have a discussion re sunrise/set angles on Uranus, which I recall has a inclination of 90deg. John. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:01:07 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at localhost.localdomain To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, John Woodbridge wrote: > Imagine your little globe with lines of latitude and longitude spinning on > its inclined axis with light from a distance shining on it. Make the > inclination tangential to the source of light (which is the case at > spring/autumn equinoxes) and the above is obvious. It is quite easy to > visualise. Now might be a good time to get a hold of Geoclock, a shareware program which graphically displays where on Earth it is light and dark. You can check it out here: http://home.att.net/~geoclock/ and it demonstrates what John is talking about. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Upper trough Vic. Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:13:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2001 02:14:26.0417 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8CDCE10:01C14179] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Interesting mid and upper trough lingering over central Vic this afternoon and producing patchy rain, cloud motion at mid levels is surprisingly slow and associated rain has been slow moving, all this despite very sharp pressure rises over western and central Victoria over the past 5 hours. regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:41:20 +1000 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com LOL. I suppose to be completely completely correct, there is no such thing as east or west at the south pole. All ways point north. :) Mark Hardy The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. http://www.theweather.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jonty Hall Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2001 6:24 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set I know celestial mechanics is not quite weather related, but I guess sunrises and sunsets are close enough to qualify (we get enough phone calls at the bureau about them anyway!) Lyle - I'm afraid you are completely incorrect, and so are your satellite guys. I'm sitting here at work in lovely Brisbane (lat 27S) and the sun is rising more or less due east. And furthermore, it will set more or less due west this arvo. I can guarantee you that if you do the same thing over there in Colorado (lat 35N?), you will observe the same thing. As would Jane in Victoria or Les in England or my mate at Casey in Antarctica. Of course, this is only true at the equinoxes, not any other time of year. What has putting the sun at the centre of the earth got to do with anything? This is a completely erroneous way of looking at it. The only thing that changes as you change latitudes is the angle the path of the sun makes with the horizon. At the equator, it rises due east, and rises perpendicularly to the horizon to the zenith, then sets due west. At other latitudes it makes a smaller angle with the horizon and does not pass directly overhead, but it still rises (sets) due east (west). And those who acknowledge that it doesn't do so at the poles are incorrect as well. It does. Near the poles (for the sake of argument, lets consider the spring pole), the sun does NOT do a complete 360 circle in the sky. It is actually spiralling slowly upwards (each day it is a little bit higher). You will find that the point on the spiral at which the centre of the sun cuts the horizon will be in actual fact, you guessed it, due east. (And at the autumn pole the point at which the decending spiral hits the horizon is due west). Of course, at the exact pole this breaks down as there is no such thing as east or west anyway, and the angle the sun makes with the horizon is so small that the exact time of the equinox becomes a critical factor, but more than few kilometers or so away it is true. It is also entirely incorrect that the sun rises (sets) due east (west) on the Tropic of Capricorn at the summer solstice. Jonty. On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Lyle Pakula wrote: > I didn't think that litle comment would spark an argument. The sun > most definatly only rises in the east/west at the equator. If your > inclined towards absoloute specifics and want to include the wobble of > the roation axis, thats your choice, goto the complete declination > equation and have a look. > > If your like me and prefer to understand whats going on, simply draw > planet earth with it's axis of rotation vertical and the sun at the > center. The only place on earth where you get a line running > perpendicular to the axis of rotation is as the equator. It's that > simple. As a side note, during the southern hemisphere summer > solsitce, the sun will rise/set in the true east/west on the tropic of > capricorn. > > Furthermore, for those that acknowledge it can't rise in the true > east/west at the pole, you must then be able to convince yourself > there is a gradient of declination angles that exist between the > equator and the pole. > > hope this helps, lyle > > p.s. i checked this with some satallite guys in my group. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Hardy (home)" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:43 PM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > > > > No, it's everywhere except the north and south pole where it just > > hugs the horizon for 360 degrees. > > > > Mark Hardy > > The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. > > http://www.theweather.com.au > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Lyle > > Pakula > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 8:20 AM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > > > > > > isn't that only on the equator? > > > > cheers, lyle > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bussie" > > To: "weather list" > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:54 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > > > > > > > Slightly off topic but if I've got this right, on Saturday 22nd we > > > should > > be > > > halfway between the longest and shortest days and therefore the > > > sun will rise exactly in the East and set exactly in the West. > > > That's all for > > today's > > > trivia lesson.......... > > > > > > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > > of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- > > --- > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: hail storm - Bathurst To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 From: "David Carroll" Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:35:49 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Domino/Advance(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 20/09/2001 12:35:50 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI all. Just getting jhail storm here, 1.5 cm in diameter.. This appeared out of nowhere.. Lightning appeared on tracker also. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: Storm increasing - radar To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 From: "David Carroll" Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:10:56 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Domino/Advance(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 20/09/2001 01:10:56 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 1.05pm 20/9 HI all.. Just looking at radar , storm cell increase SW of Appin/Camden. Anyone have reports whats happeniing around that area. Bathurst still getting some lightning actuivty and rain. Many outages have occurred around, Bathurst/Blayney Area. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.9.51.36] From: "James Harris" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Storm increasing - radar Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 14:57:24 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2001 04:57:24.0893 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD3AD4D0:01C14190] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dave, Looking alright around the Sydney area also . Cells have formed all over the Illawarra (Michael Thompson must be loving it !!! ) , SW Sydney and the Blue Mountains... Very slow moving so should see a heap of rain. Justheard on the radio that there are widespread blackouts around the bankstown area due to a nice looking cell that has gone from nothing to pink in 3 loops..... Some very nice Tcu going up all over .... looking very nice indeed James >From: "David Carroll" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: Storm increasing - radar >Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:10:56 +1000 > >1.05pm 20/9 > >HI all.. > >Just looking at radar , storm cell increase SW of Appin/Camden. Anyone >have reports whats happeniing around that area. > >Bathurst still getting some lightning actuivty and rain. > >Many outages have occurred around, Bathurst/Blayney Area. > >Dave > > > > >##################################################################################### >This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain >confidential >information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and >notify the >sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, >and are >not necessarily the views of Country Energy. >##################################################################################### > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Upper trough Vic. Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 15:02:54 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've noticed weak upper vorticity north of Mount Gambier. Cloudband moving very slowly & the hook near Mt Gambier has become very promounced. Could make the next 24 hours rather interesting! Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- Hi all. Interesting mid and upper trough lingering over central Vic this afternoon and producing patchy rain, cloud motion at mid levels is surprisingly slow and associated rain has been slow moving, all this despite very sharp pressure rises over western and central Victoria over the past 5 hours. regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Upper vorticity west Vic. Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 15:06:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2001 05:07:25.0344 (UTC) FILETIME=[23206200:01C14192] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Spotted an area (small) of mid and upper vorticity just north of Mt Gambier at 1400hrs and moving slowly east southeast, may explain the rather slow clearance (unexpected) of the mid cloud band which continues to linger across Vic. regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:27:05 +1000 (AEST) From: Jonty Hall To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I promise this is my last email on this subject!! John, some of the the minor effects I mentioned most certainly are taken into account in published surise/set tables. In particular, the finite size of the sun (sunset being defined as the instant the trailing limb of the sun - that is ALL of its surface, is below the horizon), and the refraction of the sun's light by the atmosphere which makes the sun appear about 3 to 4 degrees higher than it really is when its near the horizon. These make a difference of several minutes in out lats, up to several hours near the poles. Or to take it to the extreme, several days at the poles themselves (if you stood at the south pole right now, you would be getting 24 hours of sunlight, even though the equinox and your theoretical sunrise is 3 days away). Topography on the other hand, isn't taken into account. Jonty. On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, John Woodbridge wrote: > > Also of course there are all these minor variations Jonty mentions but I > doubt these are usually taken into account for published sunrise/set times. > > Maybe just for fun, we could now have a discussion re sunrise/set angles on > Uranus, which I recall has a inclination of 90deg. > > John. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 15:03:05 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon Signal 3 hoisted in HK X-Mailer: WorldClient Pro 2.2.0 X-MDRcpt-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The observatory has hoisted signal three here at 14:45 HKT this afternoon. It is now so dark outside that the street lights have come on and cars need their headlights and it's only 15:00. It's raining steadily and the wind is picking up. Severe Tropical Storm Nari is now centred about 180 Km ENE of here and is heading WSW in this direction. I shall grab the brolly and go out now for a look. Should be able to report later tonight. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:28:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com LOL, I trust you are taking into account the extreme cold of the air at the South pole impacting the amount of refraction... >snip I promise this is my last email on this subject!! John, some of the the minor effects I mentioned most certainly are taken into account in published surise/set tables. In particular, the finite size of the sun (sunset being defined as the instant the trailing limb of the sun - that is ALL of its surface, is below the horizon), and the refraction of the sun's light by the atmosphere which makes the sun appear about 3 to 4 degrees higher than it really is when its near the horizon. These make a difference of several minutes in out lats, up to several hours near the poles. Or to take it to the extreme, several days at the poles themselves (if you stood at the south pole right now, you would be getting 24 hours of sunlight, even though the equinox and your theoretical sunrise is 3 days away). Topography on the other hand, isn't taken into account. Jonty. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon Signal 3 hoisted in HK Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:36:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Phil Nari continues to surprise with its recent strengthening and very unusual path. Look forward to your later report. Regards Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:03 PM Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon Signal 3 hoisted in HK > The observatory has hoisted signal three here at 14:45 HKT this afternoon. > It is now so dark outside that the street lights have come on and cars > need their headlights and it's only 15:00. It's raining steadily and the > wind is picking up. > Severe Tropical Storm Nari is now centred about 180 Km ENE of here and is > heading WSW in this direction. > I shall grab the brolly and go out now for a look. Should be able to > report later tonight. > > Phil > <>< > International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:42:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, and the sort of weather we would get if the earth was the same. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Woodbridge To: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:14 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > It seems the slightly simpler explanation needs to be expanded... > > At the spring & autumn equinox, the sun rises & sets coincidentally for any > point along a line of longitude between the poles, i.e., the line separating > sunshine and darkness is parallel and coincident with a line of longitude. > Therefore the incident light at any point must be at exactly 90 degrees, > i.e., due East & West. > > Imagine your little globe with lines of latitude and longitude spinning on > its inclined axis with light from a distance shining on it. Make the > inclination tangential to the source of light (which is the case at > spring/autumn equinoxes) and the above is obvious. It is quite easy to > visualise. > > At precisely the poles there is no East & West, so the matter is quite moot. > > Also of course there are all these minor variations Jonty mentions but I > doubt these are usually taken into account for published sunrise/set times. > > Maybe just for fun, we could now have a discussion re sunrise/set angles on > Uranus, which I recall has a inclination of 90deg. > > John. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Status here Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:58:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com One flash, one bang, light rain now. Hang on, another flash just north of here over the border I'd say. Quick and sweet point 8 mm and fell at 12mm an hour rate :-) Which equates to not long at all........ Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:46:39 +1000 From: Andrew Miskelly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Illawarra Thunder Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Some rumbles of thunder audible in Wollongong as a few cells move NE along the escarpment. There are some nice CJs to the south so hopefully they will make it up here later if they follow the same path. There is also a cell in the Sutherland area that looks short-lived but interesting on the radar. Andrew. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 20 Sep 01 19:42:50 +1000 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello John! 19 Sep 01 12:34, you wrote to All: JW> At the spring & autumn equinox, the sun rises & sets coincidentally JW> for any point along a line of longitude between the poles, therefore JW> it must be directly due East & West. I'd have to think about that, and might run it through both satellite tracking (which has the sun preconfigured in it) and astronomical software that I have. But something tells me that while the rise and set will be very close to due East/West at the moment of equinox (in the relevant parts of the world), there will be some slight variations. Tony, VK3JED .. .... -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 20 Sep 01 19:49:25 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Gravity really gets me down :-) Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Andrew! 20 Sep 01 09:14, you wrote to All: AM> Because space is a void (it has little/no matter) it doesn't matter AM> (?!) how fast we spin - there's no friction between the atmosphere and AM> anything else to make the atmosphere move quickly (wind). As you've AM> mentioned, the atmosphere is 'glued to the ground' and the movement of AM> air is due to the differences in pressure that occur due to uneven AM> heating of the surface etc... The atmosphere would tend to rotate with the earth, due to friction between the air molecules and the ground. As we all know, other sources of energy will move the air and cause winds of varying strength to blow across the surface, but in the main the air is "pushed around" by the rotating earth and vice versa. There is nothing in space to act as a "brake" to resist the movement caused by the earth's rotation, so the atmosphere (thankfully) pretty much goes along for the ride (give or take the effects of solar energy on the atrmosphere). Tony, VK3JED .. Security, confine Ensign at LN at to the brig. -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 20 Sep 01 19:55:12 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Lyle! 19 Sep 01 12:40, you wrote to All: LP> If your like me and prefer to understand whats going on, simply draw LP> planet earth with it's axis of rotation vertical and the sun at the LP> center. The only place on earth where you get a line running LP> perpendicular to the axis of rotation is as the equator. It's that I can see the finite size of the earth and the finite distance from the sun having a small (but no doubt measureable) effect on exactly where the sun rises/sets, but given that the distance from the sun (150 million km) is >> the diameter of the earth (12500 km), this variation will be small. LP> simple. As a side note, during the southern hemisphere summer LP> solsitce, the sun will rise/set in the true east/west on the tropic of LP> capricorn. Hmm, I'd have thought it would rise/set south of east/west. However, at solar noon, it should be directly overhead at the Tropic of Capricorn on the summer solstice. LP> Furthermore, for those that acknowledge it can't rise in the true LP> east/west at the pole, you must then be able to convince yourself LP> there is a gradient of declination angles that exist between the LP> equator and the pole. That makes sense, the angles are small, but they are there. The easiest way to understand them is to treat the sun as an earth orbiting satellite with a period of 1 year (which actually is quite accurate for some purposes). Then compare rise/set locations with a satellite orbiting at a much lower altitude (say 10,000 km), where these angles are much larger. I've never seen AO-40 (which is in a low inclination orbit) rise or set anywhere near east/west - always way north :) ) LP> p.s. i checked this with some satallite guys in my group. I'd agree with the thrust of your analysis. Drifting a little off topic though, unless we can bring the weather into it (how this all affects the atmosphere?). :) Tony, VK3JED -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Thunderstorms about Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:30:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Lots of thunderstorms about at present. I'm surrounded by lightning flashes in all directions but sadly I look up and I can see the stars!!! Seems to be a fair bit of activity in Sthn NSW and to the East of here and a few erratic flashes to the south. There are now some quite weak (distant) flashes in the western sky. Maybe I'm in the "eye" of the storm :-)) No thunder can be heard at present. Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:36:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My fault. My original post just "tried" (grin) to say that on the 22nd we are between the equinoxes and therefore I "thought" the sun rose exactly east and set exactly west. Sorry all, I just thought I was making a true statement. Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon" To: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 7:55 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > > Hello Lyle! > > 19 Sep 01 12:40, you wrote to All: > > LP> If your like me and prefer to understand whats going on, simply draw > LP> planet earth with it's axis of rotation vertical and the sun at the > LP> center. The only place on earth where you get a line running > LP> perpendicular to the axis of rotation is as the equator. It's that > > I can see the finite size of the earth and the finite distance from the sun > having a small (but no doubt measureable) effect on exactly where the sun > rises/sets, but given that the distance from the sun (150 million km) is >> the > diameter of the earth (12500 km), this variation will be small. > > LP> simple. As a side note, during the southern hemisphere summer > LP> solsitce, the sun will rise/set in the true east/west on the tropic of > LP> capricorn. > > Hmm, I'd have thought it would rise/set south of east/west. However, at solar > noon, it should be directly overhead at the Tropic of Capricorn on the summer > solstice. > > LP> Furthermore, for those that acknowledge it can't rise in the true > LP> east/west at the pole, you must then be able to convince yourself > LP> there is a gradient of declination angles that exist between the > LP> equator and the pole. > > That makes sense, the angles are small, but they are there. The easiest way to > understand them is to treat the sun as an earth orbiting satellite with a > period of 1 year (which actually is quite accurate for some purposes). Then > compare rise/set locations with a satellite orbiting at a much lower altitude > (say 10,000 km), where these angles are much larger. > > I've never seen AO-40 (which is in a low inclination orbit) rise or set > anywhere near east/west - always way north :) ) > > LP> p.s. i checked this with some satallite guys in my group. > > I'd agree with the thrust of your analysis. > > Drifting a little off topic though, unless we can bring the weather into it > (how this all affects the atmosphere?). :) > > Tony, VK3JED > -- > |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 > |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au > | > | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:41:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Maybe I should of put in my original post that I was standing on the equator at the time. It started off as a sort of weather post. "Look to the sunrise everyone, that is true East." You see something in the Eastern Sky well that's where it is. That was my idea of the original post. Once again, sorry all. Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon" To: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 7:42 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > > Hello John! > > 19 Sep 01 12:34, you wrote to All: > > JW> At the spring & autumn equinox, the sun rises & sets coincidentally > JW> for any point along a line of longitude between the poles, therefore > JW> it must be directly due East & West. > > I'd have to think about that, and might run it through both satellite tracking > (which has the sun preconfigured in it) and astronomical software that I have. > > But something tells me that while the rise and set will be very close to due > East/West at the moment of equinox (in the relevant parts of the world), there > will be some slight variations. > > Tony, VK3JED > > .. .... > -- > |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 > |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au > | > | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Gravity really gets me down :-) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:44:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks all. I knew there was a reason the wind never blew at a thousand miles an hour. Much appreciated. Still learning.... On the other hand, imagine watching "the cloud" go past at a thousand miles an hour! Wouldn't some fun be had with that. Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon" To: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 7:49 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Gravity really gets me down :-) > > Hello Andrew! > > 20 Sep 01 09:14, you wrote to All: > > AM> Because space is a void (it has little/no matter) it doesn't matter > AM> (?!) how fast we spin - there's no friction between the atmosphere and > AM> anything else to make the atmosphere move quickly (wind). As you've > AM> mentioned, the atmosphere is 'glued to the ground' and the movement of > AM> air is due to the differences in pressure that occur due to uneven > AM> heating of the surface etc... > > The atmosphere would tend to rotate with the earth, due to friction between the > air molecules and the ground. As we all know, other sources of energy will > move the air and cause winds of varying strength to blow across the surface, > but in the main the air is "pushed around" by the rotating earth and vice > versa. > > There is nothing in space to act as a "brake" to resist the movement caused by > the earth's rotation, so the atmosphere (thankfully) pretty much goes along for > the ride (give or take the effects of solar energy on the atrmosphere). > > Tony, VK3JED > > .. Security, confine Ensign at LN at to the brig. > -- > |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 > |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au > | > | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p189-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.140.189] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 14:56:09 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Storm increasing - radar Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Pink and Red spots over Liverpool area 2:30 - 2:40 David Carroll wrote: > 1.05pm 20/9 > > HI all.. > > Just looking at radar , storm cell increase SW of Appin/Camden. Anyone > have reports whats happeniing around that area. > > Bathurst still getting some lightning actuivty and rain. > > Many outages have occurred around, Bathurst/Blayney Area. > > Dave > > ##################################################################################### > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the > sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are > not necessarily the views of Country Energy. > ##################################################################################### > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:37:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Bussie, You should not be sorry - this has been a good lively debate and no doubt quite a few of us now have a rather better understanding of celestial mechanics. In any event you were right for all practical purposes and you don't need to be standing on the equator. There seems to be some considerable delay for some users in posts to the list at present, I am only now receiving some replies to my first post on this topic sent some 30 hours ago, and none to my later posts yet. Yet I receive my posts back from the list within a few minutes - I wonder what is going on???? John. >snip Maybe I should of put in my original post that I was standing on the equator at the time. It started off as a sort of weather post. "Look to the sunrise everyone, that is true East." You see something in the Eastern Sky well that's where it is. That was my idea of the original post. Once again, sorry all. Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:21:27 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon Signal 3 hoisted in HK X-Mailer: WorldClient Pro 2.2.0 X-MDRcpt-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Simon and all, I went out and about on foot and by train from about 15:15 to about 17:15. There was just a lot of rain and barely any wind not enough to make it difficult holding a brolly anyway. I surmised while out of contact that the storm was heading past us to our North, being dissipated fairly quickly, possibly by the NE Monsoon coming at it from the other side, and that we wouldn't need too much to worry about wind. Here is my latest report which I have already posted several places.: ==================== Earlier in the day HKO were calling Nari a STS but I see on their latest report that they are saying it has weakened into a TD.  It's currently 90km North of here.  We are getting well and truly drenched. Typhoon Signal 3 (Strong Winds signal) was hoisted at 14:45 HKT today, but I haven't seen any evidence of strong winds yet and will be surprised if I do. About 15:00 the rain bands came over and it became so dark that the (automatic) street lighting came on and all cars and buses were using their headlamps.  It has been raining almost non-stop since, but it is a vertically downward falling rain, not a windy storm. I looked up at the mountains at 17:22 and saw a very intense but very short in length CG lightning stroke between a cloud and the mountain - it looked as wide as it was long.  Most unusual. I drove from Fo Tan to Sai Kung at 17:30 to 18:00 and there was minor flooding but no lightning.  As we had dinner outside under an awning, there was some bright lightning and noisy thunder but only about one stroke every two or three minutes. As we drove back to Sha Tin, there was more minor flooding and lightning at about the same rate but still no wind.  There was evidence of some minor fender-benders which might be blamed on the storm but I see no sign of other damage and don't really expect to hear of any. There will be a risk of landslides after all this rain, I suppose, but Nari's visit is really almost a non-event. I shall keep my eyes and ears open for other reports. =================================================== I have commenced a page at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/nari.htm to place reports and details on, but I wonder whether I will actually end up with much to report. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 -----Original Message----- From: "Simon Clarke" To: Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:36:30 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon Signal 3 hoisted in HK > Phil > > Nari continues to surprise with its recent strengthening and very > unusual > path. Look forward to your later report. > > > > Regards > Simon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:03 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon Signal 3 hoisted in HK > > > > The observatory has hoisted signal three here at 14:45 HKT this > afternoon. > > It is now so dark outside that the street lights have come on and > cars > > need their headlights and it's only 15:00. It's raining steadily and > the > > wind is picking up. > > Severe Tropical Storm Nari is now centred about 180 Km ENE of here > and is > > heading WSW in this direction. > > I shall grab the brolly and go out now for a look. Should be able to > > report later tonight. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Lyle Pakula" To: "aus-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Fw: Cloud identification Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 14:06:48 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Worsham" To: ; ; Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 1:09 PM Subject: Cloud identification > Take a look at this (and especially the proposed name): > http://www.crh.noaa.gov/mkx/document/other/clouds_sep12-01.htm > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Lyle Pakula" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:33:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, When the sun is at equinox, you can project the axis of rotation such that it looks like the word document I have attached. Be mindfull who you call 'completely wrong', these guys put satellites up for NASA and rounding off errors cost billions of dollars. Note that the inital 'the world is warming' argument stemed from such a mistake as a satallite was caught in the atmospheric drag, bringing it closer to the earth and inclreasing the flux readings. As Tony pointed out, the perfect due "east/west" comment is only true if you assume that the arc lengths is negligible, i.e. the angle approximates zero - this is clearly not true theoretically, which is the laboratory I thought we were talking in. Hence, I can totally agree with your comment in a 'round' about way - excuse the pun ;) cheers, Lyle Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\SunEarth.doc" From: "Lyle Pakula" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Gravity really gets me down :-) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:38:43 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Bussie, however, this does not mean that it doesn't matter. Air that is moved from the equator towards the pole (Hadley Cell) will conserve it's angular momentumn, thus we get upper level jets. This is the same argument for a skater pulling in her hands when spinning and moving faster and faster, except the skater is the atmosphere and the pulling is gravity. Cheers, Lyle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bussie" To: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 3:44 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Gravity really gets me down :-) > Thanks all. I knew there was a reason the wind never blew at a thousand > miles an hour. Much appreciated. Still learning.... > On the other hand, imagine watching "the cloud" go past at a thousand miles > an hour! Wouldn't some fun be had with that. > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Langdon" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 7:49 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Gravity really gets me down :-) > > > > > > Hello Andrew! > > > > 20 Sep 01 09:14, you wrote to All: > > > > AM> Because space is a void (it has little/no matter) it doesn't matter > > AM> (?!) how fast we spin - there's no friction between the atmosphere > and > > AM> anything else to make the atmosphere move quickly (wind). As you've > > AM> mentioned, the atmosphere is 'glued to the ground' and the movement > of > > AM> air is due to the differences in pressure that occur due to uneven > > AM> heating of the surface etc... > > > > The atmosphere would tend to rotate with the earth, due to friction > between the > > air molecules and the ground. As we all know, other sources of energy > will > > move the air and cause winds of varying strength to blow across the > surface, > > but in the main the air is "pushed around" by the rotating earth and vice > > versa. > > > > There is nothing in space to act as a "brake" to resist the movement > caused by > > the earth's rotation, so the atmosphere (thankfully) pretty much goes > along for > > the ride (give or take the effects of solar energy on the atrmosphere). > > > > Tony, VK3JED > > > > .. Security, confine Ensign at LN at to the brig. > > -- > > |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 > > |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au > > | > > | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p110-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.110] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 07:30:12 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: AvnPlotter change Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, For those who use AvnPlotter, I have made a change to a function that was not working properly. It was easy to overlook I suppose. A day or so ago, one of the model data was not working which means you could not view the latest model data to choose. It also meant that when you try to plot, the plots did not work. Now once you choose the appropriate model (of the three) to plot, you know in the secondary window if it is working or not. So please download: http://australiasevereweather.com/links/avnhelp.htm For those who don't know what I am talking about, go to this link and try it out. I use it to easily plot avn variables of my choice to work out what the atmosphere is likely to do - especially storms. From this link is where the data is from: http://australiasevereweather.com/links/ozcharts.htm go to Climate, Weather Analysis and Weather Forecasts section AVN Forecasts [server 1][server 2][server 3] and so on. This program handles it automatically biased for the main variables though. You still have an option to it the hard way in a browser. It certainly saves time and hassles of plotting all the different variables you would want to plot. For those with cable, this becomes even more an advantage loading what you want in 30 seconds. If you don't like it, follow the procedure to unload it. Cheers. ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: aus-wx: Canberra today20/9/tomorrow21/9 Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 01:07:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
well today had some real potential for some photos but i had to start work at 3 and didnt get up till 2. On the way to work the were 3 cells around canberra, two in the south and a massive cell to east, probably over braidwood/clyde mts). of the 3 cells only 2 were active, the east and one to the south. there were reports of very heavy rain in tuggernong this afternnon although none at the local AWS. No lightning or thunder that i heard/seen, but i was coupped up in my work place all afternoon. I do like what the BoM had to say on this though.....
 
It was another unseasonably warm day in Canberra with partly cloudy skies and
moderate northwest winds. A few of the clouds grew quite substantially during
the afternoon resulting in one or two showers. These affected the southern parts
of the city but no rain was recorded up to 3 PM. 
The temperatures ranged from 5
degrees [2 above average] to 23 degrees [7 above average] at the airport and 4
to 23 at Tuggeranong.
 
One other point, when i first saw the cell to the east the first thing that came to mind was the wyong supercell of a few weeks ago, because its shape was so similar to the photos i have seen but the cell was not severe (i dont think) and its activity was not very rapid.
 
Oh well hopefully tomorrow (today fri21/9) we might get an afternnon storm, i dont have to work (woo whooo) so i might get my first ever storm photos taken and hopfully uploaded early next week but id better not get a head of myself.
 
Simon Angell
Canberra...........Bring it on!!!!!!
 
SITUATION:
The current weather pattern has more in common with summer than early spring. A
weak change currently moving across the southeast of the mainland has triggered
some showers and thunderstorms in the region, mainly to the immediate east of
the ACT. This system is likely to stall across the region resulting in some more
unsettled weather on the Friday. However a new ridge of high pressure should
become established again in the Tasman Sea over the weekend bringing warm
northerly winds and making the atmosphere slightly more stable. A change with
some showers is expected to extend through the region on Monday with fine and
cooler weather developing in the wake of the change.

A.C.T. FORECAST:   For tonight and Friday 
Mild to warm and partly cloudy with a few showers. The chance of a thunderstorm,
mainly in the afternoon or evening. Moderate northwest winds this afternoon and
light to moderate northeast to northwest winds on Friday.       
 
 
From: "Andrew" To: Subject: aus-wx: Yesterday's (20/9) Storms Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 08:10:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2001 22:10:58.0048 (UTC) FILETIME=[1FF35800:01C14221] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Morning all, (at least it was when i typed this)
 
I noticed a few storms on the ranges to the NE of Vic yesterday while watching the radar in the hope that i'd be able to get my tennis match in 5pm.  I was fortunate as the rainband which crossed SW Vic dissipated before it reached melbourne.  Anyway - to cut a short stroy shorter, I got home at 9pm did some uni work and jumped online at 10:45pm to discover that storms were still firing along this stalled trough and they were just 130km to my NNE and pulsing into the pink and red.  I stuck my head up against the window (as do all avid weather enthusiasts <g>) and "hello boys" there was a FLASH!!!!!  Well - I saw 4 flashes and was out the door and up to the roof of Greensborough Plaza to watch.  Static was every 2-3 seconds or so but I only saw falshes on about 1/15th of the static bursts I heard.  There were more storms nearer to Albury which were probably resulting in this.  I saw some nice but infrequent lightning and after an extremely hectic week it was nice to sit there and relax watching storms. 
 
They are a chance again today dare I say it.....hehe....I have seemingly developed a case of Tonsilitis (sp?) and may have to cancel my evening plans.....hehehe.
 
Regards,
 
Andrew McDonald
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:36:54 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Lyle, There seems to something a little wrong with your diagram, it shows a sun much smaller than Earth, whereas in fact the sun is much larger than Earth (about 50,000 times I think)... It is of course such a long way away, that we can almost treat the rays as parallel for all intents and purposes which I did in my argument, but in fact the better diagram is as attached (even though this still shows a sun many orders of magnitude smaller in comparison to the Earth than it actually is). Plus of course you then have to look at the definition of sunrise and sunset, again I was assuming the centre point of the sun's disk on the horizon of a perfect globe with no wobble in the rotation and a point of observation on the surface, not 6 feet above it. Someone else in the list has observed that this is not the conventional definition of sunrise/sunset. Regards, John W. >snip Hi, When the sun is at equinox, you can project the axis of rotation such that it looks like the word document I have attached. Be mindfull who you call 'completely wrong', these guys put satellites up for NASA and rounding off errors cost billions of dollars. Note that the inital 'the world is warming' argument stemed from such a mistake as a satallite was caught in the atmospheric drag, bringing it closer to the earth and inclreasing the flux readings. As Tony pointed out, the perfect due "east/west" comment is only true if you assume that the arc lengths is negligible, i.e. the angle approximates zero - this is clearly not true theoretically, which is the laboratory I thought we were talking in. Hence, I can totally agree with your comment in a 'round' about way - excuse the pun ;) cheers, Lyle Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\SunEarth2.doc" X-Authentication-Warning: zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:57:39 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Rough morning for Giles Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Gees, looks like Giles had a rough time of it this morning, judging by their sounding. A surface flow from the south at 260 knots, with surface temps and dew point temps below -40!!!! The kind of day where you'd want to sleep in me thinks...that is if you still had a house left :-) Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p66-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.140.66] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:33:24 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rough morning for Giles Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow. Stunning trace that. Megga equipment failure. I wonder how much of the rest of the trace is valid. Even so, I have saved it. Might make it into a nice wallpaper for windows ! Robert Goler wrote: > Gees, looks like Giles had a rough time of it this morning, judging by > their sounding. A surface flow from the south at 260 knots, with surface > temps and dew point temps below -40!!!! > The kind of day where you'd want to sleep in me thinks...that is if you > still had a house left :-) > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > School of Mathematical Sciences > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dry in SEQ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 15:52:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, Well the daily gloom of a smoke filled sky reminds me of how dry it has become again, with very high fire danger over much of QLD. Certainly it is very dry around the Brisbane hinterland and I have ordered the dozer in tomorrow to make a fire break on the adjoining abandoned farmland which is presently covered tinder dry long grass, dead wood and bush. Each day I raise my eyes unto the hills and utter: Rain you bastard! I think I am going to have to come up with a more convincing rain dance... John. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew" To: Subject: aus-wx: Victorian Action Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 15:15:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2001 05:16:01.0833 (UTC) FILETIME=[81641990:01C1425C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Afternoon all,
 
Some very nice TCu going up along the ranges to the N, NE and E of Melbourne.  Tops hitting about 24,000ft at the moment and not yet glaciated.  Should be some very nice storms up there this afternoon.  There is potential for some lightning later tonight if the storms keep going until after dark.  Temps reaching 25C in the N of the state and DP's in the low teens which is fairly nice.  Should be some nice solid Cb's within the hour.
 
Regards,
 
Andrew McDonald
From: "Anthony Spierings" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dry in SEQ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:00:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John, >Each day I raise my eyes unto the hills and utter: Rain you bastard! I think I am going to have to come up with a more convincing rain dance... Well, I have run out of ideas as well. I have washed the car, cleaned the windows, put water in the pool, done some painting. Normally all guaranteed to bring on the rain. I give up... Hey, lets go halves in sending the Qld President on a flight to Melbourne, loaded with all the necessary storm tracking gear. Then we would be sure of getting a sever storm here (and some good rain). :) (Sorry Anthony, we really are getting desperate for rain!) Regards, Anthony Spierings +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Anthony Spierings" To: Subject: aus-wx: Another Question about Sunrise Times Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:04:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks all for the interesting discussion about sunrise and sunset times. I have a related question that I hope is not too off topic. A few months ago I made a graph of the sunrise and sunset times for Brisbane. I got this information from Jacob's web site at http://members.iinet.net.au/~jacob/risesetbris.html (Thanks Jacob). A copy of the graph is on my web site at http://users.bigpond.net.au/spierings/bne-sunrise.gif (28 kb). Please note that the graph has 3 axis. Sunrise times are on the left and sunset times are on the right. The questions I have are; 1. Why is the graph asymmetrical? For example the earliest sunset occurs before the latest sunrise in winter. But in summer the latest sunset occurs before the earliest sunrise. 2. Why is the change in sunrise times (Jan - Apr) and the change in sunset times (Sep - Dec) non-linear? (I have drawn a green line on the graph near the non-linear bit.) I am sure that the answer is tied up in orbital mechanics. Does anyone have an explanation or a web reference? Regards, Anthony Spierings as029 at bigpond.net.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:19:40 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dry in SEQ Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, John Woodbridge wrote: > Each day I raise my eyes unto the hills and utter: Rain you bastard! I > think I am going to have to come up with a more convincing rain dance... LOL!! You may need to use reverse psychology. Say "Nope, I don't want it to rain as everything is perfect the way it currently is". Then proceed to wash your car, which should guarantee a light drizzle, you know, just enough to create mud out of any little dust that settles on your car. Then before you leave for work in the morning, hang the washing out to dry on the line, which will guarantee a deluge during the day, so that when you come home, the clothes will still be soaking wet. It would also help if you went for long walks/cycles without any rain gear, out in open places where there is no shelter around, as this usually increases the likelihood of getting rain. Walking in areas which also have the potential for the build up of large puddles on roadways is also good as you're sure to be splashed by any vehicle that drives by. Another good technique for getting rain is to tell your non-weather buddies that you see ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE of rain coming in the following week. No doubt it'll start raining before you've even put down your glass. Also watering the garden is a good rain attractor. No sooner have you thoroughly dowsed your vegies or precious camelias, there will be an almighty downpour which will flood out the garden, wash away all that precious topsoil and fertilizer that you had spent hours putting on the previous day, and drench the soil to the point where your plants will begin to rot. And there's always the classic outdoor barbeque. This dates back many tens of thousands of years when the Aboriginies used to hold important ritualistic corroborees in times of drought. They knew the awesome power of outdoor social gatherings. Just plan your BBQ for the following weekend, and invite everyone you know, especially people you are looking to impress. You can be sure that come the weekend, you'll get non-stop rain until the scheduled end of the BBQ, after which it will be bright and sunny. As an alternative to the BBQ, plan a camping trip with the family for the following weekend. You know, a trip where the kids are like "Oh gees dad, do we have to??" and the wife is "Well, I don't know about this dear." Buy all the tents and camping gear, and come weekend time, yep you guessed it, pouring with rain, and your family will be complaining in your ear and a miserable time will be had by all. But be careful though as chances are this will be a very localised rain event, ie outside a 1km radius of you will be completely dry, so don't go too far from where you want the rain. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dry in SEQ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:51:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert, Well you are of course exactly right. So far I have hung out some washing most everyday then gone off to work, soaked the garden everynight, had a BBQ two weekends ago, filled the pool to almost overflow, left the Velux skylights open in the house, arranged a week off to work in the backyard doing paving & suchlike. Bulldozing a firebreak tomorrow surely must help. Maybe, just maybe, I'll have think about inviting the rellies from Perth (hell, absolutely last ditch resort that)... John >snip On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, John Woodbridge wrote: > Each day I raise my eyes unto the hills and utter: Rain you bastard! I > think I am going to have to come up with a more convincing rain dance... LOL!! You may need to use reverse psychology. Say "Nope, I don't want it to rain as everything is perfect the way it currently is". Then proceed to wash your car, which should guarantee a light drizzle, you know, just enough to create mud out of any little dust that settles on your car. Then before you leave for work in the morning, hang the washing out to dry on the line, which will guarantee a deluge during the day, so that when you come home, the clothes will still be soaking wet. It would also help if you went for long walks/cycles without any rain gear, out in open places where there is no shelter around, as this usually increases the likelihood of getting rain. Walking in areas which also have the potential for the build up of large puddles on roadways is also good as you're sure to be splashed by any vehicle that drives by. Another good technique for getting rain is to tell your non-weather buddies that you see ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE of rain coming in the following week. No doubt it'll start raining before you've even put down your glass. Also watering the garden is a good rain attractor. No sooner have you thoroughly dowsed your vegies or precious camelias, there will be an almighty downpour which will flood out the garden, wash away all that precious topsoil and fertilizer that you had spent hours putting on the previous day, and drench the soil to the point where your plants will begin to rot. And there's always the classic outdoor barbeque. This dates back many tens of thousands of years when the Aboriginies used to hold important ritualistic corroborees in times of drought. They knew the awesome power of outdoor social gatherings. Just plan your BBQ for the following weekend, and invite everyone you know, especially people you are looking to impress. You can be sure that come the weekend, you'll get non-stop rain until the scheduled end of the BBQ, after which it will be bright and sunny. As an alternative to the BBQ, plan a camping trip with the family for the following weekend. You know, a trip where the kids are like "Oh gees dad, do we have to??" and the wife is "Well, I don't know about this dear." Buy all the tents and camping gear, and come weekend time, yep you guessed it, pouring with rain, and your family will be complaining in your ear and a miserable time will be had by all. But be careful though as chances are this will be a very localised rain event, ie outside a 1km radius of you will be completely dry, so don't go too far from where you want the rain. Cheers -- Robert A. 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John and others
 
Dry in SE QLD - yes maybe - but not as dry as last year at this time.
 
I am much more optimistic about this Spring than last (rainfall wise). I don't know why, it's just a feeling I get. It must be in the bones !  
 
I've noticed 'nature's signs' have activated a little earlier than usual, which I suppose is a little unusual as the weather seems to have been about a month behind itself for the past 12 months.
 
Or maybe its just because we have had a relatively mild winter here in SE QLD. 
 
 
 
 
Regards
Simon
From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yesterday's (20/9) Storms Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:00:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
You are certainly correct there. Due to work commitments it was an extremely buggered Bussie last night and all around I had lightning. Couldn't stay awake but at 9.30pm last night I think there was storms all around and incredibly the stars were out here! Apparently there were some pretty close bangs during the night (see how hard I must work) I never heard a thing after 9.45pm. I got 5.8mm overnight here and at 3am I got up to get a drink and there was still lots of activity over the NE ranges. At Beechworth they got a few bangs apparently and no rainfall, yet 5kms south of here they got 15mm.
Another storm brewed up just to the NE of here (Riverina) area just before dark today and I pushed in a DP of 16.2 but got nothing.
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:10 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Yesterday's (20/9) Storms

Morning all, (at least it was when i typed this)
 
I noticed a few storms on the ranges to the NE of Vic yesterday while watching the radar in the hope that i'd be able to get my tennis match in 5pm.  I was fortunate as the rainband which crossed SW Vic dissipated before it reached melbourne.  Anyway - to cut a short stroy shorter, I got home at 9pm did some uni work and jumped online at 10:45pm to discover that storms were still firing along this stalled trough and they were just 130km to my NNE and pulsing into the pink and red.  I stuck my head up against the window (as do all avid weather enthusiasts <g>) and "hello boys" there was a FLASH!!!!!  Well - I saw 4 flashes and was out the door and up to the roof of Greensborough Plaza to watch.  Static was every 2-3 seconds or so but I only saw falshes on about 1/15th of the static bursts I heard.  There were more storms nearer to Albury which were probably resulting in this.  I saw some nice but infrequent lightning and after an extremely hectic week it was nice to sit there and relax watching storms. 
 
They are a chance again today dare I say it.....hehe....I have seemingly developed a case of Tonsilitis (sp?) and may have to cancel my evening plans.....hehehe.
 
Regards,
 
Andrew McDonald
From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Dry In SEQ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:09:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The nature watcher can't help himself and says, "what nature changes". I should keep a record of this stuff but so far just have it in my head. Over and out from "Null and void"
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:13 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Dry In SEQ

John and others
 
Dry in SE QLD - yes maybe - but not as dry as last year at this time.
 
I am much more optimistic about this Spring than last (rainfall wise). I don't know why, it's just a feeling I get. It must be in the bones !  
 
I've noticed 'nature's signs' have activated a little earlier than usual, which I suppose is a little unusual as the weather seems to have been about a month behind itself for the past 12 months.
 
Or maybe its just because we have had a relatively mild winter here in SE QLD. 
 
 
 
 
Regards
Simon
X-Sender: johnstone at psyphw.psych.wisc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 00:10:32 -0500 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Iain T. Johnstone" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rough morning for Giles Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ha! And people here in Wisconsin tell me how cold it is here compared to Australia. Wait till they here about this! I'm just trying to work out what the wind chill is at -40C with 260 knot winds :-o ;-)Tom At 10:57 PM 9/20/01, you wrote: >Gees, looks like Giles had a rough time of it this morning, judging by >their sounding. A surface flow from the south at 260 knots, with surface >temps and dew point temps below -40!!!! >The kind of day where you'd want to sleep in me thinks...that is if you >still had a house left :-) > > >Cheers > >-- > >Robert A. Goler > >School of Mathematical Sciences >Monash University >Clayton, Vic 3800 >Australia > >ph. +61 3 9905 4424 >email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > >-- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Tom Johnstone Psychology Department University of Wisconsin-Madison johnstone at psyphw.psych.wisc.edu +1 608 263 4517 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: lightning - bathurst To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 From: "David Carroll" Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 12:46:16 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Domino/Advance(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 21/09/2001 12:46:16 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI all.. Lightning appearing on tracker now.. Around Bathurst area.. DAve ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Lyle Pakula" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise and set Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:20:58 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hi, the diagram is not to scale and meant to be in the refrance frame of the earth, hence the sun appears small, like a point source i guess. But your diagram shows the same point, all the better... cheers, lyle ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 6:36 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sunrise and set > Hi Lyle, > > There seems to something a little wrong with your diagram, it shows a sun > much smaller than Earth, whereas in fact the sun is much larger than Earth > (about 50,000 times I think)... It is of course such a long way away, that > we can almost treat the rays as parallel for all intents and purposes which > I did in my argument, but in fact the better diagram is as attached (even > though this still shows a sun many orders of magnitude smaller in comparison > to the Earth than it actually is). > > Plus of course you then have to look at the definition of sunrise and > sunset, again I was assuming the centre point of the sun's disk on the > horizon of a perfect globe with no wobble in the rotation and a point of > observation on the surface, not 6 feet above it. Someone else in the list > has observed that this is not the conventional definition of sunrise/sunset. > > Regards, > John W. > >snip > > Hi, > > When the sun is at equinox, you can project the axis of rotation such that > it looks like the word document I have attached. Be mindfull who you call > 'completely wrong', these guys put satellites up for NASA and rounding off > errors cost billions of dollars. Note that the inital 'the world is warming' > argument stemed from such a mistake as a satallite was caught in the > atmospheric drag, bringing it closer to the earth and inclreasing the flux > readings. > > As Tony pointed out, the perfect due "east/west" comment is only true if you > assume that the arc lengths is negligible, i.e. the angle approximates > zero - this is clearly not true theoretically, which is the laboratory I > thought we were talking in. Hence, I can totally agree with your comment in > a 'round' about way - excuse the pun ;) > > cheers, Lyle > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 09:38:18 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List Subject: aus-wx: Do you suffer from Lilapsophobia or Keraunophobia??? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Do you suffer from Lilapsophobia, Keraunophobia, Ancraophobia, Pluviophobia, Antlophobia or Astraphobia? This website might come in handy when it's updated and fully operation (Oct 21)! http://www.stormphobia.org/ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Reverse psychology Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 09:04:26 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Loved the one from Robert about the reverse psychology and we all know how true it is!! The part that really struck me is the part about the Camellias. It's always been a local saying here, as it probably is everywhere, that when the Camellias flower you can guarantee that it'll rain, because the flowers bruise so easily. They also tend to fall off and make a nice rotting mess around the plant. Well written Rob! I got a laugh anyway. Just the run of the mill Spring day here at present. Already 16 at 9am. Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay Organization: Davsoft To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Lag Test Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 12:10:40 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I posted a message last night, and still haven't seen it back. 12:10pm EST David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Cloud splotch, Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 14:37:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2001 04:38:36.0739 (UTC) FILETIME=[719FB130:01C14320] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Nice baroclinic cloud splotch,(mid upper) moving through SA and Vic,also showing moderate mid level instability,baroclinicity developing ahead of a moderate strength low near the Aus Bight,with this area of cloud and mid moisture may be a couple of high based storms about Vic tonight...I will get the tent out for an overnight lookout..regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 15:53:48 +1000 (AEST) From: Jonty Hall To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another Question about Sunrise Times Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Anthony, For number 1, well its hard to explain exactly, but the answer lies in the fact that the earth has an elliptical orbit, not circular. This changes the time at which the sun reaches its highest point in the sky through the year. For example, right now (with the earth just past aphelion - furthest point from the sun) the sun reaches its highest point in Brisbane at about 11.40 am (which is rediculously early and why SE Qld should have another time zone, but that's another story). In January on the other hand (at perihelion), it doesn't reach its highest point until about noon. As sunrise and set are close enough to equal lengths of time before and after this on any given day, you can see why the asymmetry arrises. Note that if perihelion and aphelion coincided with the solstices, it would be all symmetrical. You'll have to wait a couple of thousand years or so for precession of the earth's axis to make this true. But at the moment, you have to somehow explain to people that the shortest day does NOT coincide with the earliest sunset, etc. I'm not sure about point 2. The data looks a bit screwy perhaps?. It should not be linear (it should be very close to a sin curve), but I can't think of anything that would cause the bump on both curves. That doesn't mean there is nothing doing it of course. It just means that if I wanted to investigate further I'd start by looking at the data source more closely, rather than going further into orbital mechanics at this stage! Hope that helps! Jonty. On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Anthony Spierings wrote: > > > Thanks all for the interesting discussion about sunrise and sunset > times. I have a related question that I hope is not too off topic. A > few months ago I made a graph of the sunrise and sunset times for > Brisbane. I got this information from Jacob's web site at > http://members.iinet.net.au/~jacob/risesetbris.html (Thanks Jacob). A > copy of the graph is on my web site at > http://users.bigpond.net.au/spierings/bne-sunrise.gif (28 kb). Please > note that the graph has 3 axis. Sunrise times are on the left and > sunset times are on the right. > > The questions I have are; > > 1. Why is the graph asymmetrical? For example the earliest sunset > occurs before the latest sunrise in winter. But in summer the latest > sunset occurs before the earliest sunrise. > > 2. Why is the change in sunrise times (Jan - Apr) and the change in > sunset times (Sep - Dec) non-linear? (I have drawn a green line on the > graph near the non-linear bit.) > > I am sure that the answer is tied up in orbital mechanics. Does anyone > have an explanation or a web reference? > > > > Regards, > > Anthony Spierings > as029 at bigpond.net.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay Organization: Davsoft To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: The Ultimate Weather Desktop! Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 23:13:28 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com After spending months looking for a perfect weather shot for my desktop on my computer, and failing, I've come up with a better solution. My machine runs Linux, but you could probably do similiar in Windows. Using Xplanet(xplanet.sourceforge.net), a program which displays 3D generated images of planets I've configured my desktop to look brilliant. Every three hours, a cron job downloads the latest worldwide satelite mosaic from the Xplanet web site, then Xplanet wraps it around the globe on my screen. The resolution is quite good such that I can look down and see storms developing to the west of Sydney the other day. Xplanet also allows you to add markers for locations on the planet of choice. My planet of choice of Earth of course! :-P I created a perl script, that reads in a list of cities, their coordinates, and ICAO codes then downloads the appropiate METARs. It then decodes the METAR and puts the list of cities and their locations, plus their current temperature and dewpoint into the markers file for Xplanet. Then Xplanet displays the markers file, showing me the entire world(well half of it at a time) with my list of cities and the wx details. The METARs update every hour. Every five minutes, the globe rotates to a random location, and also the sunlight, so I can see what parts of the world are in day and night. So the overall effect is cool! As I write this email I can tell you that it is 30 Degrees C in Kinshasa with a dewpoint of 18. In Reykjavik it is currently 11 degrees. You can see a snapshot of my desktop here: http://users.bigpond.com/nedz/wxdesk.jpg If anyone wants me to post more details on how I set it all up, or wants my downloader/decoder/displayer just ask and I'll post them. I'd imagine most of you would be running windows, but it should work with that too. Now I've just got to ask the author of Xplanet to make it possible to use icons. Then instead of the circle marking a location, I could have a sunny icon, or a rainy icon, etc. And if I could get the font smaller, but still readable I could add more information to the display, maybe winds. Another thing I want to do later is make a news ticker run across the top of the screen, carrying warnings from the Bom and NWS. And maybe even get it to download the TVS locator files from the NWS ftp site and display a tornado icon where the TVS's have been detected by the NEXRADs! :-)))))))))) /me decides to stop rambling on again. Seeya's!!! David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud splotch, Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 18:17:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Pizza on Mt Dandenong is sounding like a pleasant way to pass a spring Saturday evening!! & tomorrow to the west is worthwhile keeping an eye on too - even the NSW guys are starting to get interested in Victoria (for a change ) Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- > Hi all. > Nice baroclinic cloud splotch,(mid upper) moving through SA and Vic,also > showing moderate mid level instability,baroclinicity developing ahead of a > moderate strength low near the Aus Bight,with this area of cloud and mid > moisture may be a couple of high based storms about Vic tonight...I will get > the tent out for an overnight lookout..regards Clyve H. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p1-max5.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.157.193] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 19:02:28 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: pyrocu - mulonimbus?? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I was writing a report of one of my chases and then decided to check the situation of a bushfire to the NW. Wow. A very nice cross between pyrocumulus or pyrocumulonimbus developed above the fire. I suppose I should have taken a picture at that stage at its best but Geoff and I raced to Riverstone for some quick shots and video and then off to Richmond. Unfortunately, it was decreasing or perhaps a cap was strengthening. It is certainly the best pyrocu I have seen personally. Now if it was just pyrocumulus, it was a very large one. If it was a pyrocumulonimbus, it was more of the calvus variety. I doubt it got high enough to signify this but it was quite a crisp one particularly early on. ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.30.4] From: "Leslie Baxter" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud splotch, Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 09:25:11 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2001 09:25:11.0558 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A88DA60:01C14348] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com yeah bout time we had some action\ I have Mr Digi so I'll be ready quiet at the moment cheers Les Baxter Ballarat Weather >From: "Jane ONeill" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud splotch, >Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 18:17:41 +1000 > >Evening all, > >Pizza on Mt Dandenong is sounding like a pleasant way to pass a spring >Saturday evening!! & tomorrow to the west is worthwhile keeping an eye >on too - even the NSW guys are starting to get interested in Victoria >(for a change ) > >Jane >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >Melbourne Storm Chasers >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >ASWA - Victoria >http://www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------- > > > > Hi all. > > Nice baroclinic cloud splotch,(mid upper) moving through SA and >Vic,also > > showing moderate mid level instability,baroclinicity developing ahead >of a > > moderate strength low near the Aus Bight,with this area of cloud and >mid > > moisture may be a couple of high based storms about Vic tonight...I >will get > > the tent out for an overnight lookout..regards Clyve H. > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- >-- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Vic potential. Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 19:42:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2001 09:43:42.0008 (UTC) FILETIME=[106A1380:01C1434B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi stormo's. A very marked warming for all of Vic this Sunday (snow eater) although too much warming may affect storm development. The possibilities are the clearance of mid and upper cloud and some decent heating may be enough for a few storms, these would be better if some of the upper cold air moving across the Aus Bight got into Vic tomorrow afternoon. Moisture shouldn't be much of a problem.Lets keep our fingers crossed regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Water Devil ? Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:30:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I do not know what else to call what I witnessed in the ocean off Wollongong on the 8th September. It was the day that we left for our holidays, but first I had to wait for Claire and my wife to attend a Hi 5 show. I spent the time watching the surf at Wollongong. About 3pm the wind was NE, but suddenly changed W, further complicating was a weak SE about 2 kms offshore trying to muscle in, but stalling. It was during this interplay of winds that a vortex spun up, perhaps 10 metres wide at base, quite strong with a column of spray extended 10-20m into the air. It was not connected to any cloud base. It was simply like a dust devil over water. Michael Thompson http://ozthunder.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p1-max5.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.157.193] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:27:14 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Water Devil ? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, Welcome back. I hope you got photographs of it.... Jimmy Deguara At 08:30 PM 22/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >I do not know what else to call what I witnessed in the ocean off Wollongong >on the 8th September. > >It was the day that we left for our holidays, but first I had to wait for >Claire and my wife to attend a Hi 5 show. > >I spent the time watching the surf at Wollongong. About 3pm the wind was NE, >but suddenly changed W, further complicating was a weak SE about 2 kms >offshore trying to muscle in, but stalling. > >It was during this interplay of winds that a vortex spun up, perhaps 10 >metres wide at base, quite strong with a column of spray extended 10-20m >into the air. It was not connected to any cloud base. It was simply like a >dust devil over water. > >Michael Thompson >http://ozthunder.com > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay Organization: Davsoft To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Water Devil ? Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:43:44 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:30, Michael Thompson hit his keyboard with his head and the result was this: > I do not know what else to call what I witnessed in the ocean off > Wollongong on the 8th September. > > It was the day that we left for our holidays, but first I had to wait for > Claire and my wife to attend a Hi 5 show. > > I spent the time watching the surf at Wollongong. About 3pm the wind was > NE, but suddenly changed W, further complicating was a weak SE about 2 kms > offshore trying to muscle in, but stalling. > > It was during this interplay of winds that a vortex spun up, perhaps 10 > metres wide at base, quite strong with a column of spray extended 10-20m > into the air. It was not connected to any cloud base. It was simply like a > dust devil over water. I've seen one of them. In fact it came on shore and went straight over the top of me while riding my bike. It was quite windy, and I am not sure whether it was a gusternado or a dust devil. David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Dry In SEQ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:58:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Bussie
 
Perhaps not 'nature' in its truest sense, but I have noticed plants in my yard and in the surrounding neighbourhood spinging into spring a couple of weeks earlier than normal. Example, there is a jacaranda tree over the back fence from my place that is just about in full bloom. Something that normally is associated with university exam times (mid to late October and into November). I suspect that this is as a consequence of a milder winter and the 21 mm of rain recieved on 2 September which gave 'nature' an early leg up.
 
 
Regards
Simon
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From: Bussie
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Dry In SEQ

The nature watcher can't help himself and says, "what nature changes". I should keep a record of this stuff but so far just have it in my head. Over and out from "Null and void"
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:13 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Dry In SEQ

John and others
 
Dry in SE QLD - yes maybe - but not as dry as last year at this time.
 
I am much more optimistic about this Spring than last (rainfall wise). I don't know why, it's just a feeling I get. It must be in the bones !  
 
I've noticed 'nature's signs' have activated a little earlier than usual, which I suppose is a little unusual as the weather seems to have been about a month behind itself for the past 12 months.
 
Or maybe its just because we have had a relatively mild winter here in SE QLD. 
 
 
 
 
Regards
Simon
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Fw: Dry SE Queensland & Burn Offs Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 21:34:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Back from the 9 days on the Sunshine Coast, and it lived up to its name. > > This will be no mystery to our Queensland members, but the countryside is > dry up there. The area around Gatton is particularly parched, the hills are > brown and the haze from numerous burning off activities lends further to the > drought scene. > > Speaking of burning off and sorry if I offend through ignorance, but the > farmers up there seem to love nothing more then setting a match to the bush. > I realise that there are cane burns and that the new grass may be better, > etc, etc. But I did see burn offs of forest too. > > In over 2500km on the road I had the wipers on for 2 mins near Coolum Beach > in the whole 14 days away and on the road - for a storm chaser a bit of a > boring drive. > > > > Michael Thompson > http://ozthunder.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les Crossan" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: pyrocu - mulonimbus?? Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 11:42:40 +0100 Organization: Chaotic X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We had one like that in mid winter here in the UK when a large power transformer exploded in Edinburgh the resultant smoke produced a cb of shallow vertical extent which produced very oily rain. Les "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell." - Aldous Huxley == Les Crossan and Christine Challen, Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 55N 01-30W les.crossan at virgin.net www.uksevereweather.org.uk Wallsend StormCam: www.cc0020209.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wallsendstormcam.htm === Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system before leaving minerva.domain (www.grisoft.com) engine: 6.0.280 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 18/09/2001 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 10:02 AM Subject: aus-wx: pyrocu - mulonimbus?? > Hi all, > > I was writing a report of one of my chases and then decided to check the > situation of a bushfire to the NW. Wow. A very nice cross between > pyrocumulus or pyrocumulonimbus developed above the fire. I suppose I > should have taken a picture at that stage at its best but Geoff and I raced > to Riverstone for some quick shots and video and then off to Richmond. > Unfortunately, it was decreasing or perhaps a cap was strengthening. It is > certainly the best pyrocu I have seen personally. Now if it was just > pyrocumulus, it was a very large one. If it was a pyrocumulonimbus, it was > more of the calvus variety. I doubt it got high enough to signify this but > it was quite a crisp one particularly early on. > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 22:32:36 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Dry in SEQ Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tony, I'd be quite happy to go to Melbourne for tomorrow (Sunday), looks rather nice in western Vic for storms tomorrow! :) AC Anthony Spierings wrote: > > Hi John, > > >Each day I raise my eyes unto the hills and utter: Rain you bastard! I > think I am going to have to come up with a more convincing rain dance... > > Well, I have run out of ideas as well. I have washed the car, cleaned > the windows, put water in the pool, done some painting. Normally all > guaranteed to bring on the rain. I give up... Hey, lets go halves in > sending the Qld President on a flight to Melbourne, loaded with all the > necessary storm tracking gear. Then we would be sure of getting a sever > storm here (and some good rain). :) (Sorry Anthony, we really are > getting desperate for rain!) > > Regards, > > Anthony Spierings > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p761-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.142.253] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 22:39:50 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: For Information: New US wind chill calculation methodology Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT...SERVICE CHANGE NOTICE 01-49 NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HEADQUARTERS WASHINGTON DC 430 PM EDT THU AUG 30 2001 TO: FAMILY OF SERVICES /FOS/ SUBSCRIBERS...NOAA WEATHER WIRE SERVICE /NWWS/ SUBSCRIBERS...EMERGENCY MANAGERS WEATHER INFORMATION NETWORK /EMWIN/ SUBSCRIBERS... 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A very anxious Western Victorian PaulY -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Anthony Cornelius Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2001 22:33 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Dry in SEQ Hi Tony, I'd be quite happy to go to Melbourne for tomorrow (Sunday), looks rather nice in western Vic for storms tomorrow! :) AC Anthony Spierings wrote: > > Hi John, > > >Each day I raise my eyes unto the hills and utter: Rain you bastard! I > think I am going to have to come up with a more convincing rain dance... > > Well, I have run out of ideas as well. I have washed the car, cleaned > the windows, put water in the pool, done some painting. Normally all > guaranteed to bring on the rain. I give up... Hey, lets go halves in > sending the Qld President on a flight to Melbourne, loaded with all the > necessary storm tracking gear. Then we would be sure of getting a sever > storm here (and some good rain). :) (Sorry Anthony, we really are > getting desperate for rain!) > > Regards, > > Anthony Spierings > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------- -------------- -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------ ------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 23:51:24 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic potential. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Looking at the 1100UT sounding for Adelaide which would probably be representative of what Vic will see tomorrow in the clear slot, shows, as Clyve pointed out, a rather warm layer between 800 and 600hPa. After the early morning rain, low level dew points may be better than shown in Adelaide. However, in my opinion (which don't mean crap!) I really can't see a lot of activity coming from this. Looking at the AVN forecast showed that surface temps needed to be about 2-4 degs higher than what the BoM forecast for a parcel to reach the LFC. Mind you, this doesn't take into account forced lifting due to convergence, but the low level winds didn't really show any dramatic convergence zones. Just browsing through the IR images of this system from earlier on today showed that nothing developed as it passed over the Eyre Peninsula region in SA. However, perhaps making an extrapolation to conclude that nothing will happen over Vic may not be valid. I hope I'm wrong on this (perhaps using reverse psychology so that something will happen :-) ), but nevertheless, it looks like that tomorrow I'll be watching any development from in front of my computer instead of heading out west. On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, clyve herbert wrote: > Hi stormo's. > A very marked warming for all of Vic this Sunday (snow eater) although too > much warming may affect storm development. The possibilities are the > clearance of mid and upper cloud and some decent heating may be enough for a > few storms, these would be better if some of the upper cold air moving > across the Aus Bight got into Vic tomorrow afternoon. Moisture shouldn't be > much of a problem.Lets keep our fingers crossed regards Clyve H. > Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.30.3] From: "Leslie Baxter" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic potential. Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 14:20:19 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2001 14:20:19.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[B56E1360:01C14371] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com no robert keep my number in hand i reckon something will happen surely with vic being as warm as it is something should happen sorry I'm rather drunk cheers Les Ballarat Weather >From: Robert Goler >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic potential. >Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 23:51:24 +1000 (EST) > > >Looking at the 1100UT sounding for Adelaide which would probably be >representative of what Vic will see tomorrow in the clear slot, shows, as >Clyve pointed out, a rather warm layer between 800 and 600hPa. After the >early morning rain, low level dew points may be better than shown in >Adelaide. However, in my opinion (which don't mean crap!) I really can't >see a lot of activity coming from this. Looking at the AVN forecast >showed that surface temps needed to be about 2-4 degs higher than what the >BoM forecast for a parcel to reach the LFC. Mind you, this doesn't take >into account forced lifting due to convergence, but the low level winds >didn't really show any dramatic convergence zones. Just browsing through >the IR images of this system from earlier on today showed that nothing >developed as it passed over the Eyre Peninsula region in SA. However, >perhaps making an extrapolation to conclude that nothing will happen over >Vic may not be valid. > >I hope I'm wrong on this (perhaps using reverse psychology so that >something will happen :-) ), but nevertheless, it looks like that tomorrow >I'll be watching any development from in front of my computer instead of >heading out west. > > >On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, clyve herbert wrote: > > > Hi stormo's. > > A very marked warming for all of Vic this Sunday (snow eater) although >too > > much warming may affect storm development. The possibilities are the > > clearance of mid and upper cloud and some decent heating may be enough >for a > > few storms, these would be better if some of the upper cold air moving > > across the Aus Bight got into Vic tomorrow afternoon. Moisture >shouldn't be > > much of a problem.Lets keep our fingers crossed regards Clyve H. > > > >Cheers > >-- > >Robert A. Goler > >School of Mathematical Sciences >Monash University >Clayton, Vic 3800 >Australia > >ph. +61 3 9905 4424 >email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > >-- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Dry SE Queensland & Burn Offs Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:24:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Back from the 9 days on the Sunshine Coast, and it lived up to its name. This will be no mystery to our Queensland members, but the countryside is dry up there. The area around Gatton is particularly parched, the hills are brown and the haze from numerous burning off activities lends further to the drought scene. Speaking of burning off and sorry if I offend through ignorance, but the farmers up there seem to love nothing more then setting a match to the bush. I realise that there are cane burns and that the new grass may be better, etc, etc. But I did see burn offs of forest too. In over 2500km on the road I had the wipers on for 2 mins near Coolum Beach in the whole 14 days away and on the road - for a storm chaser a bit of a boring drive. Michael Thompson http://ozthunder.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Water Devil ? Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 21:42:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Jimmy, I attempted too, but it was short lived and the camera was packed 3 suitcases deep in the car. Michael > > Welcome back. I hope you got photographs of it.... > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 08:30 PM 22/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: > >I do not know what else to call what I witnessed in the ocean off Wollongong > >on the 8th September. > > > >It was the day that we left for our holidays, but first I had to wait for > >Claire and my wife to attend a Hi 5 show. > > > >I spent the time watching the surf at Wollongong. About 3pm the wind was NE, > >but suddenly changed W, further complicating was a weak SE about 2 kms > >offshore trying to muscle in, but stalling. > > > >It was during this interplay of winds that a vortex spun up, perhaps 10 > >metres wide at base, quite strong with a column of spray extended 10-20m > >into the air. It was not connected to any cloud base. It was simply like a > >dust devil over water. > > > >Michael Thompson > >http://ozthunder.com > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.109.252.12] From: "steven williams" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Sunny NSW Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 07:46:53 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2001 07:46:53.0615 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF162BF0:01C1433A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Spring is the time of year when Sydneys weather shines over Melbourne and Auckland. The spring westerlies bring persistent low cloud to Auckland from now until November while that same wind direction gives Sydney the blue skies. New Zealands budget airline, Freedom Air, has announced new services from Auckland to Gold coast and Newcastle(hunter region). That brings NSW that much closer to me for storm chasing. Cheers from Aotearoa S Williams Weather Observer _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 09:49:32 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic potential. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert and all, One of the things that this situation hinged largely on was 'the gap' between the two cloud bands. This is become somewhat undefined, so that goes against today. When I checked, AVNs temps were inline with the BoM's, but their DPs were slightly high (15-17C), and it may struggle to reach those - even with the rain. More so because to the N and NW of Vic there hasn't been as much rain, so the winds will be somewhat drier. It also looks like that some more instability will be in SE SA - we shall see how it pans out, but hopefully something does happen for you guys :) AC Robert Goler wrote: > > Looking at the 1100UT sounding for Adelaide which would probably be > representative of what Vic will see tomorrow in the clear slot, shows, as > Clyve pointed out, a rather warm layer between 800 and 600hPa. After the > early morning rain, low level dew points may be better than shown in > Adelaide. However, in my opinion (which don't mean crap!) I really can't > see a lot of activity coming from this. Looking at the AVN forecast > showed that surface temps needed to be about 2-4 degs higher than what the > BoM forecast for a parcel to reach the LFC. Mind you, this doesn't take > into account forced lifting due to convergence, but the low level winds > didn't really show any dramatic convergence zones. Just browsing through > the IR images of this system from earlier on today showed that nothing > developed as it passed over the Eyre Peninsula region in SA. However, > perhaps making an extrapolation to conclude that nothing will happen over > Vic may not be valid. > > I hope I'm wrong on this (perhaps using reverse psychology so that > something will happen :-) ), but nevertheless, it looks like that tomorrow > I'll be watching any development from in front of my computer instead of > heading out west. > > On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, clyve herbert wrote: > > > Hi stormo's. > > A very marked warming for all of Vic this Sunday (snow eater) although too > > much warming may affect storm development. The possibilities are the > > clearance of mid and upper cloud and some decent heating may be enough for a > > few storms, these would be better if some of the upper cold air moving > > across the Aus Bight got into Vic tomorrow afternoon. Moisture shouldn't be > > much of a problem.Lets keep our fingers crossed regards Clyve H. > > > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > School of Mathematical Sciences > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p393-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.141.139] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 09:54:30 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunny NSW Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Steven, Save your money for the time being unless you like to see bushfires. Some very warm weather coming through with thicknesses indicating that a deep region of warmer air is approaching hitting us tomorrow. It will also act as a very strong cap. Anything that does develop will be along strong troughs regions and also will be isolated. Jimmy Deguara At 07:46 AM 22/9/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Spring is the time of year when Sydneys weather shines over Melbourne >and Auckland. The spring westerlies bring persistent low cloud to >Auckland from now until November while that same wind direction gives >Sydney the blue skies. >New Zealands budget airline, Freedom Air, has announced new services from >Auckland to Gold coast and Newcastle(hunter region). That brings >NSW that much closer to me for storm chasing. >Cheers from Aotearoa >S Williams >Weather Observer > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 09:40:13 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: SA potential. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Thundersquall warnings out for the SA gulfs this afternoon. I'll be at the beach waiting for some long anticipated action. Just hope it doesn't turn into a rainband before it arives in the Adelaide area. Report tonight.... Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Frogs! Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 18:48:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Sep 2001 08:49:22.0393 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3F20C90:01C1440C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Bussie and all. The frogs are into a sing song here at Leopold, how are they up your way Bussie. The approaching cold front is kicking into a reasonable amount of moisture as it rambles across Vic tonight and tomorrow although the parent low is moving southeast from the Aus Bight it is deepening and so is the associated trough...regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) From: "Seona Phillips" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 17:01:41 +0800 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Dry in SEQ Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Maybe I should threaten to go to Cairns for another week - Last time I went, I flew out on the Sunday morning, big storms Sunday night, The next week, I arrive back Sunday afternoon, and storms happened the day before. Just my luck!! Good for you guys though. :) Seona -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Cornelius Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 22:32:36 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Dry in SEQ > Hi Tony, > > I'd be quite happy to go to Melbourne for tomorrow (Sunday), looks > rather nice in western Vic for storms tomorrow! :) > > AC > > Anthony Spierings wrote: > > > > Hi John, > > > > >Each day I raise my eyes unto the hills and utter: Rain you bastard! I > > think I am going to have to come up with a more convincing rain dance... > > > > Well, I have run out of ideas as well. I have washed the car, cleaned > > the windows, put water in the pool, done some painting. Normally all > > guaranteed to bring on the rain. I give up... Hey, lets go halves in > > sending the Qld President on a flight to Melbourne, loaded with all the > > necessary storm tracking gear. Then we would be sure of getting a sever > > storm here (and some good rain). :) (Sorry Anthony, we really are > > getting desperate for rain!) > > > > Regards, > > > > Anthony Spierings > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- _______________________________________________ Have you downloaded the latest calling software from Net2Phone? Click here to get it now! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=NH211JK&url=http://commcenter.net2phone.com/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 22:25:09 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Water Devil ? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, This reminds me (somewhat) of something I saw on Nov 24, 1998 under a shelf cloud - I have photos of it (not scanned at the moment), but the shelf cloud was this: http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/anthony/241198_06.shtml When it went over the water it spun up two vorticities, both about 10m wide - and extended 10-20 metres up, just like a "water devil" although most probably connected to the base of the cloud as a gustnado. Interesting though! AC Michael Thompson wrote: > > I do not know what else to call what I witnessed in the ocean off Wollongong > on the 8th September. > > It was the day that we left for our holidays, but first I had to wait for > Claire and my wife to attend a Hi 5 show. > > I spent the time watching the surf at Wollongong. About 3pm the wind was NE, > but suddenly changed W, further complicating was a weak SE about 2 kms > offshore trying to muscle in, but stalling. > > It was during this interplay of winds that a vortex spun up, perhaps 10 > metres wide at base, quite strong with a column of spray extended 10-20m > into the air. It was not connected to any cloud base. It was simply like a > dust devil over water. > > Michael Thompson > http://ozthunder.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SA potential. Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 19:11:51 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, I saw some lightning today up to 20 cg so far. Heard zap noise each time. These were accompany with the middle level clouds. Interesting shape. It was nice and warm day. I took some photos. I will soon put up on the website. From Nathan. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Bagust To: Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: SA potential. > Hi all > > Thundersquall warnings out for the SA gulfs this afternoon. I'll be at the > beach waiting for some long anticipated action. Just hope it doesn't turn > into a rainband before it arives in the Adelaide area. Report tonight.... > > Phil > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 23 Sep 01 19:21:50 +1000 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dry in SEQ Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello John! 21 Sep 01 17:51, you wrote to All: JW> You may need to use reverse psychology. Say "Nope, I don't want it to JW> rain as everything is perfect the way it currently is". Then proceed JW> to wash your car, which should guarantee a light drizzle, you know, JW> just enough to create mud out of any little dust that settles on your JW> car. JW> JW> Then before you leave for work in the morning, hang the washing out to JW> dry on the line, which will guarantee a deluge during the day, so that JW> when you come home, the clothes will still be soaking wet. The car one is a surefire way to bring rain! :) Just discovered that buying a car (especially one in good condition and washed at the dealers) is another surefire way to bring the light sprinkle. :) JW> Another good technique for getting rain is to tell your non-weather JW> buddies that you see ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE of rain coming in the JW> following week. No doubt it'll start raining before you've even put JW> down your glass. For extra insurance, take bets on it as well. :-) JW> Robert A. Goler Some well known suggestions that always seem to bring rain. :-) Tony, VK3JED .. Warning! Tagline thieves abound. See next message area for details! -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Anthony Spierings" To: Subject: aus-wx: Woo Hoo ! Rain : was Dry in SEQ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:12:06 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello All, After my bitching yesterday: according to the BOM, Bracken Ridge scored 6 mm of rain last night. Very coastal, so I assumed that John missed out. It is still very dry in Brisbane, we could do with some good rain. (I know, I know, be careful what I wish for.) Once again, thanks to the BoM, Brisbane City Council, Water Board, et al for putting this data up on the web. I saves me running down to the garden in the morning (in my pyjamas) to check the rain gauge. (And that is not a pretty sight.) Regards, Anthony Spierings as029 at bigpond.net.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Frogs! Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:58:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The frogs are deadly quiet at the moment. Being amphibians and relying on water then maybe I better pay more attention. Which I haven't been just lately. Been a little busy, as every one is! I'll go with the frogs in my part of the state and say that not much is going to happen here. Water. They're happy. No water, end of story. Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyve herbert" To: Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 6:48 PM Subject: aus-wx: Frogs! > Hi Bussie and all. > The frogs are into a sing song here at Leopold, how are they up your way > Bussie. The approaching cold front is kicking into a reasonable amount of > moisture as it rambles across Vic tonight and tomorrow although the parent > low is moving southeast from the Aus Bight it is deepening and so is the > associated trough...regards Clyve H. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Water Devil ? Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 19:40:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Quite familiar with that photo Anthony. It is a classic. My recent trip to the Sunshine coast only revealed coastal showers, and only 3 of those in 9 days at Coolum Beach. There was a storm one afternoon sparking away on AM radio, I hastily attempted a chase, but first I had to locate the storm, the air was so hazy that it could have been only 100kms away and be unseen. I found an Internet cafe at Nambour and the storm was over Childers near Bundaberg. Not really within a reasonable range. Regards Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2001 22:25 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Water Devil ? > Hi Michael, > > This reminds me (somewhat) of something I saw on Nov 24, 1998 under a > shelf cloud - I have photos of it (not scanned at the moment), but the > shelf cloud was this: > > http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/anthony/241198_06.shtml > > When it went over the water it spun up two vorticities, both about 10m > wide - and extended 10-20 metres up, just like a "water devil" although > most probably connected to the base of the cloud as a gustnado. > > Interesting though! > > AC > > Michael Thompson wrote: > > > > I do not know what else to call what I witnessed in the ocean off Wollongong > > on the 8th September. > > > > It was the day that we left for our holidays, but first I had to wait for > > Claire and my wife to attend a Hi 5 show. > > > > I spent the time watching the surf at Wollongong. About 3pm the wind was NE, > > but suddenly changed W, further complicating was a weak SE about 2 kms > > offshore trying to muscle in, but stalling. > > > > It was during this interplay of winds that a vortex spun up, perhaps 10 > > metres wide at base, quite strong with a column of spray extended 10-20m > > into the air. It was not connected to any cloud base. It was simply like a > > dust devil over water. > > > > Michael Thompson > > http://ozthunder.com > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Woo Hoo ! Rain : was Dry in SEQ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 00:40:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Anthony, No regretfully, me missed out - just a trace early this morning at Mt. Crosby, but not enough to register in my guage. John. >snip Hello All, After my bitching yesterday: according to the BOM, Bracken Ridge scored 6 mm of rain last night. Very coastal, so I assumed that John missed out. It is still very dry in Brisbane, we could do with some good rain. (I know, I know, be careful what I wish for.) Once again, thanks to the BoM, Brisbane City Council, Water Board, et al for putting this data up on the web. I saves me running down to the garden in the morning (in my pyjamas) to check the rain gauge. (And that is not a pretty sight.) Regards, Anthony Spierings as029 at bigpond.net.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dry In SEQ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 00:59:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Simon.
 
At Mt. Crosby Winter/Spring so far has been pretty much the same as last year but the spread has been more even.  The 20mm on Sep 1 was great - cf to 0.0mm for all of Sep last year.  Total since June 1 is 85.2 cf 73.0 last year, but  May 2001 was dry, so total since May 1 is 111.9 this year cf 142.5 last year.
 
Speaking of nature's signs, after a complete absence since May, I have noticed a number of green tree frogs in the last week - venturing out due to the higher humidity since the SE regime started.
 
John.
>snip
John and others
 
Dry in SE QLD - yes maybe - but not as dry as last year at this time.
 
I am much more optimistic about this Spring than last (rainfall wise). I don't know why, it's just a feeling I get. It must be in the bones !  
 
I've noticed 'nature's signs' have activated a little earlier than usual, which I suppose is a little unusual as the weather seems to have been about a month behind itself for the past 12 months.
 
Or maybe its just because we have had a relatively mild winter here in SE QLD. 
 
 
 
 
Regards
Simon
From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: West Vic Rain. Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:45:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Sep 2001 03:46:31.0149 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F7401D0:01C144AB] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Some interesting rainfall over parts of western Vic between 0900 and 1330 today with some falls up to 20mm under the nice looking cloud band,this cloud band is associated with a pre frontal trough and cold front, also Melbourne scored its second high min record this year last night after a low of 20.7c and mostly between 21c and 22 through the night almost warm enough for Anthony....regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Water Devil ? Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:58:09 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Sep 2001 03:59:09.0987 (UTC) FILETIME=[43C17F30:01C144AD] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Anthony. I have also seen small scale spinups under the leading edge of a cold front over Port Phillip Bay. I believe Fujita called such small scale events as Moso scale?, such vorticity seems to be associated with the sudden lifting of low level air near to the surface. I have also seen them over land as brief very small vorticity along the frontal boundary,over water though it may be possible that a layer of warm air can become trapped under the advancing cold wedge which may extend a few hundred meters (nose) ahead of the cold air arriving at the surface, this would effectively create potential superadiabatic conditions near the surface ,a bit like air bursting through the overhang of a large breaking wave?,in respect to the water devil that Michael saw,the situation does not appear to be associated with the above conditions but I would be looking at local sea surface temps and then the possibility of cool air overriding and creating a stronger lapse rate,vorticity is also known along seabreaze boundary zones and at katabatic outflow regions as well. best wishes Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Cornelius To: Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Water Devil ? > Hi Michael, > > This reminds me (somewhat) of something I saw on Nov 24, 1998 under a > shelf cloud - I have photos of it (not scanned at the moment), but the > shelf cloud was this: > > http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/anthony/241198_06.shtml > > When it went over the water it spun up two vorticities, both about 10m > wide - and extended 10-20 metres up, just like a "water devil" although > most probably connected to the base of the cloud as a gustnado. > > Interesting though! > > AC > > Michael Thompson wrote: > > > > I do not know what else to call what I witnessed in the ocean off Wollongong > > on the 8th September. > > > > It was the day that we left for our holidays, but first I had to wait for > > Claire and my wife to attend a Hi 5 show. > > > > I spent the time watching the surf at Wollongong. About 3pm the wind was NE, > > but suddenly changed W, further complicating was a weak SE about 2 kms > > offshore trying to muscle in, but stalling. > > > > It was during this interplay of winds that a vortex spun up, perhaps 10 > > metres wide at base, quite strong with a column of spray extended 10-20m > > into the air. It was not connected to any cloud base. It was simply like a > > dust devil over water. > > > > Michael Thompson > > http://ozthunder.com > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: aus-wx: Kink near Adelaide Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:06:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Afternoon all from under a 'lowering sky'.... Interesting kink showing up in both the water vapour & infra red images just south of Adelaide...another low forming on the back of this cloud band perhaps?? It's also the location of a 'cool pool' at 850hPa. 27.6mm at Stawell & 24.4mm at Horsham since 9am - very respectable totals for that part of the state! Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Kink near Adelaide Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:30:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Sep 2001 06:32:05.0726 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0EC27E0:01C144C2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane and all. Trough passing through Geelong at 1620hrs a nice long line shelf cloud type and wind gusts of 50 to 60kph and 2to 10mm hr. with bursts of 10 to 20mmhr no thunder. regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane ONeill To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 4:06 PM Subject: aus-wx: Kink near Adelaide > > Afternoon all from under a 'lowering sky'.... > > Interesting kink showing up in both the water vapour & infra red images just > south of Adelaide...another low forming on the back of this cloud band > perhaps?? It's also the location of a 'cool pool' at 850hPa. > > 27.6mm at Stawell & 24.4mm at Horsham since 9am - very respectable totals > for that part of the state! > > Jane > > --------------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > --------------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.48.79] From: "adele jaunn" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Frogs and AM radio Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 06:41:07 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Sep 2001 06:41:07.0795 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4055230:01C144C3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Tom and I spent the weekend in the Barossa Valley, and the Banjo frogs were playing eagerly in the creek while we were watching the rainband approaching from the south last night. Also spottet lightening, but it really didn't get any close until 5 o'clock this morning...that's when it woke me up. Or more likely, it could have been a different storm. Am understanding the radar a bit better now, must be thanks to the ASWA membership... :-) By the way, can anyone give us a hint of how far one can be for the AM radio to pick up disturbances from lightning? We were out chasing yesterday and used the AM radio to pick up interferrances (which it did) -but we didn't spot any lightening at that stage, despite the signals. Any comments? Adele _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: unusual warm temps in Coffs Hbr To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:23:08 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hi Blair, > > This is a most remarkable reading, which leads one to think it may have been > suspect. What were temps like for nearby centres & Brisbane on that day? > There isn't a lot of digitised data available, but both Brisbane and Port Macquarie were in the high 32s, which makes me inclined to think that the observation is real. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: aus-wx: Warm night in Melbourne To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:27:33 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Melbourne had an overnight minimum last night of 20.7, and a 24- hour minimum (the 0900 reset from Sunday morning) of 19.7. The overnight minimum is the highest on record for September; the 24-hour minimum is the second-highest (in both cases, the previous record is 20.5 on 29 September 1999). Somewhat ironically, I'd been at a conference in Darwin for the last week and before returning home remarked that I was looking forward to a sub-20 night, not anticipating that I wouldn't get one in Melbourne either... Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Forget Mudgee as a stop on Saturday nights Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:10:50 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For those NSW chasers that may head out towards Mudgee over the coming weekends you will probably find all motel accommodation booked solid. The wineries have seen Mudgee become a popular weekender for Sydney people. In regard to the family holiday, on our way north two weeks ago we arrived at Mudgee at 7.30pm and found all but two motel rooms in town booked, but these were with a run down looking Budget Motel and they were asking $80. All is not lost however, Gulgong has two motels and for reasons unknown is never booked out ( according to a Mudgee Motel owner ). We stayed at Gulgong in a pretty old Motel, but one that was $30 cheaper. Michael Thompson http://ozthunder.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:14:41 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Kink near Adelaide Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com After some woozy storms in the evening, continual rain overnight lastnigh has left almost 50mm in my gauge to 6pm tonight. So our wet September in Adelaide continues... phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Kink near Adelaide Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:37:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Bugger. Only 28mm so far for this month. Another 50mm would nearly get us back up to average. Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bagust" To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 6:44 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Kink near Adelaide > After some woozy storms in the evening, continual rain overnight lastnigh > has left almost 50mm in my gauge to 6pm tonight. So our wet September in > Adelaide continues... > > phil > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Sudden wind change Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:46:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just had a sudden wind change here from a basically Easterly all day to a rapid swing around to the NW. Cloud fairly dark at Dusk. I suppose I could say they are a lot darker now :-)) I also noticed with the wind change that the barometer has now started to rise rapidly. According to my Weather display software the bar has risen 1.6 in only the last 10 minutes. All over for me??? Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:24:46 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Adelaide's rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com According to what I can find, Adelaide's Sept rain to 6 pm tonight was 130.6 mm - which appears to be the highest since the record back in 1923 (I think?) Can anyone (Blair?) confirm this? don W +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 24 Sep 01 21:21:00 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Kink near Adelaide Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello clyve! 24 Sep 01 16:30, you wrote to All: ch> Trough passing through Geelong at 1620hrs a nice long line shelf cloud ch> type and wind gusts of 50 to 60kph and 2to 10mm hr. with bursts of 10 ch> to 20mmhr no thunder. regards Clyve H. As usual, all the fun is down south. Nothing here in the NW suburbs. :( Tony, VK3JED .. bove 40,000 feet) -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 24 Sep 01 21:19:56 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Frogs and AM radio Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello adele! 24 Sep 01 06:41, you wrote to All: aj> how far one can be for the AM radio to pick up disturbances from aj> lightning? We were out chasing yesterday and used the AM radio to pick aj> up interferrances (which it did) -but we didn't spot any lightening at aj> that stage, despite the signals. Any comments? Up to several hundred km, depending on time of day. You will hear lightning long before you can see it. Tony, VK3JED .. he best policy but insanity's a better defense. -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 24 Sep 01 21:16:41 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warm night in Melbourne Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Blair! 24 Sep 01 17:27, you wrote to Aussie Weather: BT> Melbourne had an overnight minimum last night of 20.7, and a 24- BT> hour minimum (the 0900 reset from Sunday morning) of 19.7. There was a stage I thought it was getting warmer during the night. According to the weather report, the overnight minimum occured at 11PM last night. BT> Somewhat ironically, I'd been at a conference in Darwin for the BT> last week and before returning home remarked that I was looking BT> forward to a sub-20 night, not anticipating that I wouldn't get one BT> in Melbourne either... Heheh, life's like that. As for the Wx tonight, the rain has been light, but steady since around 7PM. No sign of storms or other interesting activity. The rain's welcome, but still a bit of a fizzer... But then again, I'm in the most boring suburb (weather wise) of Melbourne. Little wonder they put the airport on this side of town! :-/ Tony, VK3JED .. My tagline is in the shop. This is a loaner. -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Frogs and AM radio Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:02:07 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Adele, I've managed to pick lightning up ~400km away with my car radio. The trick is to have a really 'bad' radio which will pick up static rather than radio stations. The next trick is to learn the different sounds that distance creates (every radio will sound slightly different). The closer the lightning to you, the sharper & louder the sound will be. Cloud to ground strikes (cgs) are the sharpest, with cloud to cloud (ccs) being sort of 'fuzzy'. If you are in the midst of a particularly lightning active storm, you may find that your CB radio (which isn't as sensitive to lightning at great distances as your radio) may whine or whistle before a strike - you can actually use this to work out when you will get a strike & how strong it is likely to be dependant on the length of the buildup of the whine & the pitch. Cgs will almost scream before discharge & there will be a solid 'crack' whereas cc's just whine & then drop into silence...... Now when you get your am radio 'screaming' in a thunderstorm like a number of people heard mine (over the phone & on video) during the storms in April this year in Melbourne, you know you're in a real doozy!! Using the lightning tracker & a radio is a great way of familiarising yourself with all of this & with a lot of practise, you can (like some people who will remain nameless, but they & everyone else know who they are) can give you the distance of lightning to within ~50kms & given a handheld radio will pretty much get the direction right too!!! That old crappy am radio is a wonderfully cheap lightning detector ........ Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- how far one can be for the AM radio to pick up disturbances from lightning? We were out chasing yesterday and used the AM radio to pick up interferrances (which it did) -but we didn't spot any lightening at that stage, despite the signals. Any comments? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Frogs and AM radio Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:42:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com There are too many variables to say a definite answer - topography, day / night, brand of radio, aerial type, direction faced and frequency tuned all play roles. I have two cars and one AM radio is crap for anything but near local stuff, the other cars radio picks up lightning at least 200kms away in daytime, even longer distances if storms over ocean and I am facing. On my chases I have picked up lightning at Newcastle from storms in Coffs Harbour, and from Coolah for storms in Orange. After a while you can even do rough estimates on distance. Michael > By the way, can anyone give us a hint of how far one can be for the AM radio > to pick up disturbances from lightning? We were out chasing yesterday and > used the AM radio to pick up interferrances (which it did) -but we didn't > spot any lightening at that stage, despite the signals. Any comments? > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Tim Eckert To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [202.138.34.123] Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 9:20:48 +0930 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide's rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From memory, Adelaide's September record was in 1992 when approx. 152mm was recieved. Apologies if this is slightly incorrect - my memory can exaggerate things! Tim. Original message from: Don White > > >According to what I can find, Adelaide's Sept rain to 6 pm tonight was >130.6 mm - which appears to be the highest since the record back in 1923 >(I think?) > >Can anyone (Blair?) confirm this? > > >don W > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - >. > __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: NinnesM at franklins.com.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Sydney change Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:59:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 2:50pm EST Western Sydney Was just listening to Steve Symonds on 2GB talking about the summer ahead, and the 'warm' winter that we had. He said that we were expecting showers in Sydney this afternoon (with the change) but no storms. About 5 minutes after that, Max King called me to say that he saw a CG (actually, a 'flang!') near Granville, and a few minutes after that, it started bucketing down here at Chullora. 2:15pm radar scan (Kurnell) showed 'clear' skies over Western Sydney (radar wise), 2:25 image showed light blue echos, 2:35 image showed areas of yellow with a green core. Just loaded now, the 2:45pm image shows area of widespread pink just west of Homebush. It'll be interesting to compare heavy rainfall conditions like this with Kurnell data (against the standard letterbox radar). Any more reports from around Sydney this afternoon? Malcolm Ninnes Unix Systems Admin National Technical Services - Franklins Ltd Ph. (02) 9722-1862 ninnesm at franklins.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Frogs. Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 15:22:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2001 05:23:51.0770 (UTC) FILETIME=[4325CBA0:01C14582] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Ok I know its a little weird but I will take notice of any potential sigh for forecasting and I have too say that two days ago the frogs were making a hell of a noise after being silent for a few weeks and we have had our best rain event through central Vic and all of western Victoria for weeks frog power I say.....regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Vic Thunder. Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 15:18:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2001 05:19:53.0609 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5314F90:01C14581] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. After a long thunder drought here in Geelong, sometimes a thunderstorm can appear when least expected, with a nice cold pool passing over central Vic this afternoon a rather small low topped (18,000 to 22,000ft) cold air cell moved over the Geelong area at around 1345 and remarkably producing good CG,s hail and heavy rain.....just thought I would share that with you...regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean McWhinney" To: Subject: aus-wx: Quick hail shower (petersham sydney) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 15:21:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
 
Just had a 10-20 second 1-2 cm hail shower VERY quick ??!!
From: "Paul Mirtschin" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sydney change Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 15:40:28 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It hit Kingsgrove quite hard rain wise, visibility outside was zero for about 15-30 seconds. The winds really picked up, rain pelted down, then it disappeared again... One or two CG's maybe, couldn't see that much, but sound/light said it was close. -------------------------------------- Paul Mirtschin - Ph 0414 658 174 Designer - Writer paul at nothingdesign.com.au www.nothingdesign.com.au Author of The Attention Deficit Disorder Association's Book of... Hey! Let's Go Ride Our Bikes! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 06:38:42 +0100 (BST) From: Mario Paul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney change To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com yeah between 3pm and 3.30 i got thunder,lightning, and very small hail for about 5 min here in Arncliffe...looks like another cell starting to develop to my NW .....very nice dark base.... its gonna dump its load soon :))) keep those cells coming --- NinnesM at franklins.com.au wrote: > 2:50pm EST > Western Sydney > > Was just listening to Steve Symonds on 2GB talking > about the summer ahead, > and the 'warm' winter that we had. He said that we > were expecting showers > in Sydney this afternoon (with the change) but no > storms. About 5 minutes > after that, Max King called me to say that he saw a > CG (actually, a > 'flang!') near Granville, and a few minutes after > that, it started bucketing > down here at Chullora. > > 2:15pm radar scan (Kurnell) showed 'clear' skies > over Western Sydney (radar > wise), 2:25 image showed light blue echos, 2:35 > image showed areas of yellow > with a green core. Just loaded now, the 2:45pm image > shows area of > widespread pink just west of Homebush. It'll be > interesting to compare > heavy rainfall conditions like this with Kurnell > data (against the standard > letterbox radar). > > Any more reports from around Sydney this afternoon? > > Malcolm Ninnes > Unix Systems Admin > National Technical Services - Franklins Ltd > Ph. (02) 9722-1862 > ninnesm at franklins.com.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free at yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free at yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Thunder. Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 15:46:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2001 05:47:21.0340 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B511BC0:01C14585] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Afternoon Clyve, I'd been watching today develop nicely and predicted today's hail in the south yesterday with some quite cold air moving in aloft. Some quite strong updrafts pushed up to the WSW of here (NE Suburbs) early this arvo and topped about 24,000ft at times and as the cell became better established it tracked a little more ENE'ly with the upper NW'ly flow having some effect on it. It was pink on radar for about 4 frames and I couldn't stand it any more. I headed out with video camera in hand and raced up plenty road. I got about 8km N of here and lo and behold a significant lowering was just off to my NW. I'm still trying to decide if this was possibly a wall cloud and I will get around to taking some captures of this either today or later this week. This lowering persisted for another 10-15 minutes before being blasted by outflow. I got out to Yan Yean and watched as the cell weakened and dissipated. I picked up another cell around Epping and got some micro hail (about 0.3cm) and followed this/drove in this cell from Epping over to Hurstbridge before running out of petrol and roads so I went home. Quite an interesting little chase. Currently some FAST moving storms have developed/are developing in and N of Sydney. If people are home they may wish to load up the Sydney local radar and Williamton is likely to get a little more interesting in the next few hours as cells get close to the coast and into some moister air. Regards, Macca ----- Original Message ----- From: clyve herbert To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: aus-wx: Vic Thunder. > Hi all. > After a long thunder drought here in Geelong, sometimes a thunderstorm can > appear when least expected, with a nice cold pool passing over central Vic > this afternoon a rather small low topped (18,000 to 22,000ft) cold air cell > moved over the Geelong area at around 1345 and remarkably producing good > CG,s hail and heavy rain.....just thought I would share that with > you...regards Clyve H. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 07:01:13 +0100 (BST) From: Mario Paul Subject: aus-wx: 2nd hail shower To: weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com YEAH !!!! its 4pm and the second hail shower just hit me here in arncliffe. It lasted about 5 min. The hail was small ,about 1cm mario ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free at yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free at yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mirtschin" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sydney change Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 15:59:01 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > It hit Kingsgrove quite hard rain wise, visibility outside > was zero for about 15-30 seconds. The winds really picked up, > rain pelted down, then it disappeared again... And a second wave of weather just hit, with a few minutes of 5mm hail falling... and LOTS of rain. Very little CG activity though. -------------------------------------- Paul Mirtschin - Ph 0414 658 174 Designer - Writer paul at nothingdesign.com.au www.nothingdesign.com.au Author of The Attention Deficit Disorder Association's Book of... Hey! Let's Go Ride Our Bikes! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sydney change - Bathurst also To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 From: "David Carroll" Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 15:59:41 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Domino/Advance(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 25/09/2001 03:59:41 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Had downpour for about 45 mins, started at 2.15pm. Looks like more rain heading to Sydney from Central West.. Dave Bathurst ----- Forwarded by David Carroll/Advance on 25/09/2001 03:56 PM ----- |--------+-------------------------------------> | | "Paul Mirtschin" | | | | | | Sent by: | | | aussie-weather-approval at wor| | | ld.std.com | | | | | | | | | 25/09/2001 03:40 PM | | | Please respond to | | | aussie-weather | | | | |--------+-------------------------------------> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: | | cc: | | Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sydney change | >-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| It hit Kingsgrove quite hard rain wise, visibility outside was zero for about 15-30 seconds. The winds really picked up, rain pelted down, then it disappeared again... One or two CG's maybe, couldn't see that much, but sound/light said it was close. -------------------------------------- Paul Mirtschin - Ph 0414 658 174 Designer - Writer paul at nothingdesign.com.au www.nothingdesign.com.au Author of The Attention Deficit Disorder Association's Book of... Hey! Let's Go Ride Our Bikes! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: NinnesM at franklins.com.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sydney change Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 15:59:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Further to that, about 20 seconds of very small hail (< 1cm) here at Chullora at around 3:50pm. > ---------- > From: NinnesM at franklins.com.au[SMTP:NinnesM at franklins.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2001 14:59 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: Sydney change > > 2:50pm EST > Western Sydney > > Was just listening to Steve Symonds on 2GB talking about the summer ahead, > and the 'warm' winter that we had. He said that we were expecting showers > in Sydney this afternoon (with the change) but no storms. About 5 minutes > after that, Max King called me to say that he saw a CG (actually, a > 'flang!') near Granville, and a few minutes after that, it started > bucketing > down here at Chullora. > > 2:15pm radar scan (Kurnell) showed 'clear' skies over Western Sydney > (radar > wise), 2:25 image showed light blue echos, 2:35 image showed areas of > yellow > with a green core. Just loaded now, the 2:45pm image shows area of > widespread pink just west of Homebush. It'll be interesting to compare > heavy rainfall conditions like this with Kurnell data (against the > standard > letterbox radar). > > Any more reports from around Sydney this afternoon? > > Malcolm Ninnes > Unix Systems Admin > National Technical Services - Franklins Ltd > Ph. (02) 9722-1862 > ninnesm at franklins.com.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: NE thunder Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:11:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thunderstorm passing over currently just north of town with only the edge of the rain here. Few CG's and lots of rumbling. Temp here has dropped 3 degrees in the last ten minutes. Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.30.4] From: "Rune Peitersen" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Sydney this arvo Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:11:24 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2001 06:11:24.0437 (UTC) FILETIME=[E7783C50:01C14588] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Mal and all, I was surprised too listening to Steve Symonds, very crisp cumulus updraughts i could see from work got me very anxious to get outta there,, AM was huge driving home, i find around 999AM is best for storms, currently STW for Sydney, bankstown and east,,, more towers going up around the place,,, _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Vic Thunder. Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:08:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Clyve & all, Here to your north east, we have seen those wonderful grunty Cjs & Cbs that you describe passing to the NW and to the SE of us. I have been up onto the roof 3 times so far today - stop laughing! - (armed with the digital camera) & have taken pics of cells which would have been able to produce all of those wonderful things that you saw & heard (CGs, hail & heavy rain). The webcam in the CBD has also captured some wonderful stuff to the S & SW over Port Phillip Bay............. Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- Hi all. After a long thunder drought here in Geelong, sometimes a thunderstorm can appear when least expected, with a nice cold pool passing over central Vic this afternoon a rather small low topped (18,000 to 22,000ft) cold air cell moved over the Geelong area at around 1345 and remarkably producing good CG,s hail and heavy rain.....just thought I would share that with you...regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: NinnesM at franklins.com.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Sydney STW (issued 15:54) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:11:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Interesting part about sheltering in the strongest part of a building.... TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST SYDNEY SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 1554 on Tuesday the 25th of September 2001 This warning affects people in the eastern parts of the Sydney Metropolitan area. This warning is current from 3:50 until 4:50pm. Storms are currently located near Bankstown and are forecast to move towards the east reaching the coast within the next hour. Damaging winds and small hail are possible. The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should: * put vehicles under cover * move indoors away from windows During and after the storm people should: * beware of fallen trees and power lines * shelter in the strongest part of a building [eg. bathroom or basement] The RTA recommends motorists switch their lights & wipers on & slow down in the wet. If your house is damaged contact the State Emergency Service on 132 500 for emergency assistance. Do not use the telephone during the storm. TV CRAWL: Severe Thunderstorm Warning current for Sydney Metropolitan area MEDIA PLEASE NOTE: This warning will be updated within the next hour. The Bureau and SES would appreciate it being broadcast regularly during this period. Malcolm Ninnes Unix Systems Admin National Technical Services - Franklins Ltd Ph. (02) 9722-1862 ninnesm at franklins.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sydney this arvo Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:23:01 +1000 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Steve obviously needs to push harder for that window office :) Mark Hardy The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. http://www.theweather.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rune Peitersen Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2001 4:11 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Sydney this arvo Hey Mal and all, I was surprised too listening to Steve Symonds, very crisp cumulus updraughts i could see from work got me very anxious to get outta there,, AM was huge driving home, i find around 999AM is best for storms, currently STW for Sydney, bankstown and east,,, more towers going up around the place,,, _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Lesiow" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney change Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:15:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 4:12 PM, here at Gosford, getting lots of activity just now, in the space of 10 minutes about 3 CB's have developed over here and to the east. Winds aloft must be very strong, these cells are rocketing past. While typing this e-mail a CB to the west is now giving off persistent thunder, and now starting to rain. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Paul Mirtschin To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tuesday, 25 September 2001 4:09 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sydney change >> It hit Kingsgrove quite hard rain wise, visibility outside >> was zero for about 15-30 seconds. The winds really picked up, >> rain pelted down, then it disappeared again... > >And a second wave of weather just hit, with a few minutes of 5mm hail >falling... and LOTS of rain. > >Very little CG activity though. > > -------------------------------------- > Paul Mirtschin - Ph 0414 658 174 > Designer - Writer > paul at nothingdesign.com.au > www.nothingdesign.com.au > >Author of The Attention Deficit Disorder Association's >Book of... Hey! Let's Go Ride Our Bikes! > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Frogs. Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:16:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That confirms it Clyve! You're becoming as mad as me :-)) Also noticed that all the "young" slaters (woodlouse their real names) all headed onto the veranda and up the columns at my front door this morning. Now there's only half the numbers there was before. Maybe headed back into the grass perhaps. Maybe not even weather related?? Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyve herbert" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:22 PM Subject: aus-wx: Frogs. > Hi all. > Ok I know its a little weird but I will take notice of any potential sigh > for forecasting and I have too say that two days ago the frogs were making a > hell of a noise after being silent for a few weeks and we have had our best > rain event through central Vic and all of western Victoria for weeks frog > power I say.....regards Clyve H. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Sydney radar Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:31:00 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sydney radar has a few reds thrown in. A STW was issued about a half hour or so ago for there. Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.30.4] From: "Rune Peitersen" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: More storms Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 17:10:12 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2001 07:10:12.0757 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E832450:01C14591] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com More from here, apparently a group of school girls were struck by lightning at a playground not long ago in Sydneys inner west, maybe they were listening to 2gb and though it was safe to be outside. Hope they are OK, everything is building and moving on so fast, cant take an eye off it for a minute!,, brief storm just now, nice cells over Richmond going up now and to the south east and north in a line, looks like your house is the place to be right now Mario :)... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: NinnesM at franklins.com.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Sydney nowcast check Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 17:16:01 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I guess it's pretty easy for storms to reach the coast within the air. :-) 4:06pm Sydney Nowcast: IDN20003 GREATER SYDNEY WEATHER SERVICE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 4:06pm on Tuesday the 25th of September 2001 TEXT REVISED HOURLY BETWEEN 6AM AND 7PM WARNINGS: Strong wind warning for coastal waters. Severe thunderstorm warning is current till about 5pm., for storms currently located just east of Bankstown and forecast to move towards the east reaching the coast within the air. Damaging winds and small hail are possible. Malcolm Ninnes Unix Systems Admin National Technical Services - Franklins Ltd Ph. (02) 9722-1862 ninnesm at franklins.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Line of storms Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:54:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow! What an impressive line of storms along the East coast at present!! Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:28:43 +0100 (BST) From: Mario Paul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney nowcast check To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com i always thought that storms walked !! --- NinnesM at franklins.com.au wrote: > I guess it's pretty easy for storms to reach the > coast within the air. > :-) > > 4:06pm Sydney Nowcast: > > IDN20003 > GREATER SYDNEY WEATHER SERVICE > BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY > NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE > Issued at 4:06pm on Tuesday the 25th of September > 2001 > TEXT REVISED HOURLY BETWEEN 6AM AND 7PM > > WARNINGS: > Strong wind warning for coastal waters. > Severe thunderstorm warning is current till about > 5pm., for storms currently > located just east of Bankstown and forecast to move > towards the east > reaching > the coast within the air. Damaging winds and small > hail are possible. > > > > Malcolm Ninnes > Unix Systems Admin > National Technical Services - Franklins Ltd > Ph. (02) 9722-1862 > ninnesm at franklins.com.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free at yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free at yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p33-max5.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.157.225] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:24:34 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney this arvo Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I could have headed for the coast but decided not to. The first cell developed over my school and all I needed to do is head down the M4 but I decided to get a lookout and watch the storm and got a few shots. Just thought I would throw in - Schofields got zilch!!!! Just a few isolated drops that did not register. By the way Rune, I also ended up at Glenorie and Glaston but the storm was moving too fast. Jimmy Deguara At 04:11 PM 25/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: > Hey Mal and all, > I was surprised too listening to Steve Symonds, very crisp cumulus > updraughts i could see from work got me very anxious to get outta there,, > AM was huge driving home, i find around 999AM is best for storms, > currently STW for Sydney, bankstown and east,,, more towers going up > around the place,,, > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 17:31:36 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Frogs. X-Mailer: WorldClient Pro 2.2.0 X-MDRcpt-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You blokes can't claim all the madness for yourselves. I see millions of dragonflies around here today, that means storms in a day or two. Also the cockroaches are migrating over the roads in daylight which means storms as well. Typhoon Leukemia (whoops, misspelt it - Lekima) is 800 km away and wandering in circles like a lost nomad so HKO doesn't know when or if it will affect us, but the dragonflies and cockroaches do. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 -----Original Message----- From: "Bussie" To: Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:16:34 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Frogs. > That confirms it Clyve! You're becoming as mad as me :-)) > Also noticed that all the "young" slaters (woodlouse their real names) > all > headed onto the veranda and up the columns at my front door this > morning. > Now there's only half the numbers there was before. Maybe headed back > into > the grass perhaps. Maybe not even weather related?? > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "clyve herbert" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:22 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Frogs. > > > > Hi all. > > Ok I know its a little weird but I will take notice of any potential > sigh > > for forecasting and I have too say that two days ago the frogs were > making > a > > hell of a noise after being silent for a few weeks and we have had > our > best > > rain event through central Vic and all of western Victoria for weeks > frog > > power I say.....regards Clyve H. > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Frogs. Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:14:50 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dragonflies are always a good sign. Where do they go though when the "weather" hits? Flying ants in the summer are another classic. Suppose it's the same about where do Butterflies go when it rains? Anyway. Anyone know where they do go? Somewhere where it isn't wet obviously. Has anyone ever bothered to look or find out????? Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:31 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Frogs. > You blokes can't claim all the madness for yourselves. I see millions of > dragonflies around here today, that means storms in a day or two. > Also the cockroaches are migrating over the roads in daylight which means > storms as well. > Typhoon Leukemia (whoops, misspelt it - Lekima) is 800 km away and > wandering in circles like a lost nomad so HKO doesn't know when or if it > will affect us, but the dragonflies and cockroaches do. > > Phil > <>< > International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Bussie" > To: > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:16:34 +1000 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Frogs. > > > That confirms it Clyve! You're becoming as mad as me :-)) > > Also noticed that all the "young" slaters (woodlouse their real names) > > all > > headed onto the veranda and up the columns at my front door this > > morning. > > Now there's only half the numbers there was before. Maybe headed back > > into > > the grass perhaps. Maybe not even weather related?? > > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "clyve herbert" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:22 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Frogs. > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > Ok I know its a little weird but I will take notice of any potential > > sigh > > > for forecasting and I have too say that two days ago the frogs were > > making > > a > > > hell of a noise after being silent for a few weeks and we have had > > our > > best > > > rain event through central Vic and all of western Victoria for weeks > > frog > > > power I say.....regards Clyve H. > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:58:12 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney nowcast check X-Mailer: WorldClient Pro 2.2.0 X-MDRcpt-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Never mind walking, Our current storm is only crawling - look at these figures plotting the distance from here: Tropical Cyclone LEKIMA Month Date Time Lat. Long. Distance Cat. 9 24 8 19.5 N 121.5 E ESE 822 km STS 9 24 10 19.6 N 121.5 E ESE 818 km STS 9 24 12 19.6 N 121.5 E ESE 818 km STS 9 24 16 19.7 N 121.5 E ESE 813 km T 9 24 20 19.8 N 121.4 E ESE 799 km T 9 24 23 19.8 N 121.4 E ESE 799 km T 9 25 2 19.8 N 121.4 E ESE 799 km T 9 25 5 20.0 N 121.5 E ESE 801 km T 9 25 8 20.2 N 121.6 E ESE 804 km T 9 25 10 20.5 N 121.9 E ESE 824 km T 9 25 12 20.5 N 121.9 E ESE 824 km T 9 25 16 21.0 N 121.9 E E 811 km T Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 -----Original Message----- From: Mario Paul To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:28:43 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney nowcast check > > i always thought that storms walked !! > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 25 Sep 01 23:13:13 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Frogs and AM radio Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Jane! 24 Sep 01 22:02, you wrote to All: JO> If you are in the midst of a particularly lightning active storm, you JO> may find that your CB radio (which isn't as sensitive to lightning at JO> great distances as your radio) may whine or whistle before a strike - If you want a detector of variable sensitivity, try one of those cheap shortwave radios. The higher in frequency you go, the less sensitive it is. JO> you can actually use this to work out when you will get a strike & JO> how JO> strong it is likely to be dependant on the length of the buildup of JO> the whine & the pitch. Cgs will almost scream before discharge & JO> there will be a solid 'crack' whereas cc's just whine & then drop into JO> silence...... Now when you get your am radio 'screaming' in a JO> thunderstorm like a number of people heard mine (over the phone & on JO> video) during the storms in April this year in Melbourne, you know JO> you're in a real doozy!! I haven't had 27 MHz running for a long time in the car. If you hear lightning on some of the frequencies I run these days, it usually means you'll be fried sometime in the next few milliseconds! :-) JO> Using the lightning tracker & a radio is a great way of familiarising JO> yourself with all of this & with a lot of practise, you can (like some JO> people who will remain nameless, but they & everyone else know who JO> they are) can give you the distance of lightning to within ~50kms & JO> given a handheld radio will pretty much get the direction right too!!! JO> JO> That old crappy am radio is a wonderfully cheap lightning detector So true. :) Tony, VK3JED .. glines. -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 00:10:22 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Opportunity to see an aurora 25/26 September (fwd) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Sorry for the offtopic post, but I thought people may be interested in seeing an aurora, which is forecast to be seen right up into northern NSW! See details here: /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY WARNING ISSUED: 04:20 UTC, 25 SEPTEMBER 2001 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ *** POTENTIAL FOR HIGH ACTIVITY EXISTS *** VALID BEGINNING AT: 15:00 UTC 25 SEPTEMBER VALID UNTIL: 19:00 UTC ON 28 SEPTEMBER HIGH RISK PERIOD: 25 - 26 SEPTEMBER (UTC DAYS) MODERATE RISK PERIOD: 25 - 28 SEPTEMBER POTENTIAL MAGNITUDE OF MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY: HIGH POTENTIAL DURATION OF THIS ACTIVITY: MAIN BELT = 24 TO 36 HOURS MINOR BELT = 36 TO 48 HOURS ESTIMATED OPTIMUM OBSERVING CONDITIONS: NEAR AND AFTER LOCAL MIDNIGHT EXPECTED LUNAR INTERFERENCE: MODERATE, BECOMING NIL AFTER MOONSET NR MIDNIGHT OVERALL OPPORTUNITY FOR OBSERVATIONS FROM MIDDLE LATITUDES: GOOD TO VERY GOOD IN AUSTRALIA, ACTIVITY *MAY* BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY *SOUTH* OF A LINE FROM NORTHERN NEW SOUTH WALES TO NORTHERN SOUTH AUSTRALIA TO CENTRAL WESTERN AUSTRALIA. ALL OF NEW ZEALAND HAS MAY OBSERVE ACTIVITY. SYNOPSIS... A strong solar flare and high velocity Earthward directed coronal mass ejection were observed at 10:38 UTC (6:38 am EDT) on 24 September. The coronal mass ejection is expected to impact the Earth near 18:00 UTC (2 pm EDT) on 25 September, give or take several hours. The arrival of this disturbance is expected to produce periods of major to severe geomagnetic and auroral storm activity. This disturbance has the potential to be one of the largest observed this solar cycle. Observations well into the low latitude regions may be possible if predictions hold true. Observations will be best after local midnight in the northern hemisphere when the moon sets (or after about 3 am in Australia/New Zealand). Forecasters suggest this disturbance has the potential to last as long as perhaps 48 hours. As a result, most middle latitude regions of the world should have at least one chance to observe activity. Whether this holds true remains to be seen. Forecasts of storm durations are an inexact science. This warning will remain in effect until 19:00 UTC on 28 September. It will then be updated or allowed to expire. PLEASE REPORT OBSERVATIONS OF AURORAL ACTIVITY TO: http://solar.spacew.com/www/auroras.html * OR * Use the STD AURORA MONITOR Software to monitor conditions and report sightings. It is available at: http://www.spacew.com/aurora For Real-Time News and Discussions with Experienced Aurora Enthusiasts: http://www.spacew.com/irc and join the #aurora channel (type /join #aurora) WE HAVE A USEFUL DISCUSSION FORUM FOR AURORA ENTHUSIASTS AVAILABLE AT: http://www.spacew.com/aurora/forum.html Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aus Wx" Subject: aus-wx: Upper low in WA Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:27:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Afternoon all, Looking interesting for later this week (for Victoria anyway) with an upper low forming over the Esperance area in WA & lining itself up to move SE. Tropical infeed is there but doesn't seem to be very strong atm. Associated middle level & surface low pressure areas with a lot of warm advection at 850hPa.... Roll on Friday night!! Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p961-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.143.199] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:02:29 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Next AMOS meeting Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A.M.O.S. WEATHERWATCH NEWS AUSTRALIAN METEOROLOGICAL & OCEANOGRAPHIC SOCIETY, A.M.O.S. SYDNEY CENTRE - WEATHERWATCH GROUP NEWSLETTER NUMBER 01-09 - SEPTEMBER 2001 The Next Meeting of the AMOS Weatherwatch Group will be on Wednesday 3rd October 2001 at 7:30pm (19:30) at Macquarie University, Building E5A, Room 143 (E5A-143). Expensive Parking is available in University Car-Parks see notes below. The Main Item:- A Presentation by Michael Scollay of A.S.W.A. Title:- 'Evidence of Climate Change'. Michael has been studying Data on Ocean Currents and Recent Temperature Changes on a Global Basis. The Presentation will include an Audio Visual display of his research. Mr. Neal Moodie our contact at the Bureau will present rainfall and temperature data for August and September. Visitors are very welcome. Discussion will follow the presentation, and light refreshments will be available during the meeting. Advanced Notice. AMOS Next Meeting will be held on Wednesday 24th October at the Bureau of Meteorology at 6:15pm for 6:30pm. The Speaker will be Dr. Bruce Buckley, Director, Meteorology, at The Weather Channel. His Title is 'The Weather Channel: Now and in the Future'. PTO for More Meetings>>> Past Meetings. Jimmy Deguara's Talk 'Storm Chasing Experiences in the U.S.A.' on 25th July included a 50 minute video of observations, including an unexpected F4 Tornado, towards the end of his visit. AMOS held the scientific meeting at Macquarie University on 22nd August when Dr. Peter Oke spoke on 'Upwelling of Cold Water'. An excellent evening. The Weather Radar Course on Saturday Afternoon on 25th August at Macquarie University was well attended. About 40 people attended from various backgrounds. At meetings of Weatherwatch be careful about your parking, fees have changed to be $1.00 for the first hour, but a total of $4.00 for two, three or four hours, and a MAXIMUM OF $5.00 If you want to stay until midnight. Sorry folks, it will cost you $4.00. You can run outside and pay a dollar every hour if you wish. Enquiries Contact:- Alan Williams (02)9488.9975 Paul Graham (02)9888.2527 Jimmy Deguara (02)9627.1943 Roger Nurse (02)9449.1473 Neal Moodie (02)9296.1555 Bureau of Meteorology Contact Dr. Milton Speer (02)9296.1618 AMOS Sydney Centre Chair & BoM. Future date of the last AMOS Weatherwatch Meeting for 2001 will be :- Wednesday 12th December at Macquarie University. (Note the AMOS Dinner Date will be finalised shortly) Two possible dates are Fridays, 30th November or 7th December. Possible Venue is 'The Silver Springs Restuarant' in Haymarket. Recent Weather Warm Days in September in Sydney, and rather a dry August. Good Snow on Snowy Mountains and Victorian Alps in August. Low Rainfall in NSW, Queensland and Western Australia. Heavy Rain in Flinders Ranges (Flood at Wilpena Pound) and Broken Hill. Floods in Pakistan and Afganistan. Typhoons in Taiwan and Japan. Drought in Mongolia. WarningsIf you are not a member of AMOS, and have not attended or sent apologies during this year you will be deleted from the mailing list. Wishing all our members and friends a thundering good Spring season. Snail Mail costs approximately 60c a notice, so e-mail addresses save costs and time. If you change your e-mail please tell somebody. Regards Roger T. Nurse, Convenor & News Editor 21st September 2001 ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon LEKIMA. Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:25:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Sep 2001 12:26:50.0974 (UTC) FILETIME=[84BEBFE0:01C14686] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Phil, and fellow tropo's. An interesting Typhoon paddling about near Taiwan...Showing what appears to be two centres one near to the south coast of Taiwan and another off the east coast,both interconnected, the overall system however looks as if it may drift northward into the East China Sea the area over Hong Kong seems to be in a rather large 'cloud free' area indicating strong subsidence.The sub tropical jet further north seems a little weak but is interacting with outflow from this tropical complex. regards Clyve Herbert. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upper low in WA Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:36:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Sep 2001 12:37:31.0981 (UTC) FILETIME=[02D0A7D0:01C14688] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. The area of broad vorticity over WA is showing signs of slow movement, the leading cloud band indicating what seems to be a short wave upper trough is decaying as it moves east out of the favoured upper vorticity area and a new upper (and surface low ) have taken shape closer to Perth,the sub tropical jet is not strong, what is interesting is the presence of a vast field of moisture west of Indonesia 10degrees to the north and south of the Equator.The area of vorticity over WA looks as if it may drift further southeast and encroach onto Victoria this weekend by that time a strengthening high may push into the Aus Bight and assist with an infeed of colder air to tighten the thermal gradient just to the west of Victoria (Sat/Sun) and create a situation for a strengthening Jet over central Aus and allow some of the moisture now tothe northwest of Aus to invade eastern Aust ahead of the developing low west of Vic this weekend (a bit of a wish forecast but never mind)... regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane ONeill To: Aus Wx Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 3:27 PM Subject: aus-wx: Upper low in WA > Afternoon all, > > Looking interesting for later this week (for Victoria anyway) with an upper > low forming over the Esperance area in WA & lining itself up to move SE. > Tropical infeed is there but doesn't seem to be very strong atm. Associated > middle level & surface low pressure areas with a lot of warm advection at > 850hPa.... > Roll on Friday night!! > > Jane > > --------------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > --------------------------------------- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Thunder. Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:45:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Sep 2001 12:46:44.0099 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BE72D30:01C14689] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Macca. Nice to here from you, this small cold air storm was a bit of a surprise I estimated tops around 20.000ft +- 2000ft,however the updrafts from around 8000 to 15,000 were very strong, also much of the precipitation was hail, mainly half a centimetre,the storm was favouring growth on the north side and above 15,000 feet the tops sheared to the south east,outflow kept the growth area moving northeast and at times exhibited wall cloud features,much of the debri snow area of the anvil was removed well away from the main updraft region I estimated snow lines of between 3,800 and 4,000ft.regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Thunder. > Afternoon Clyve, > > I'd been watching today develop nicely and predicted today's hail in the > south yesterday with some quite cold air moving in aloft. Some quite strong > updrafts pushed up to the WSW of here (NE Suburbs) early this arvo and > topped about 24,000ft at times and as the cell became better established it > tracked a little more ENE'ly with the upper NW'ly flow having some effect on > it. It was pink on radar for about 4 frames and I couldn't stand it any > more. I headed out with video camera in hand and raced up plenty road. I > got about 8km N of here and lo and behold a significant lowering was just > off to my NW. I'm still trying to decide if this was possibly a wall cloud > and I will get around to taking some captures of this either today or later > this week. This lowering persisted for another 10-15 minutes before being > blasted by outflow. I got out to Yan Yean and watched as the cell weakened > and dissipated. I picked up another cell around Epping and got some micro > hail (about 0.3cm) and followed this/drove in this cell from Epping over to > Hurstbridge before running out of petrol and roads so I went home. Quite an > interesting little chase. > > Currently some FAST moving storms have developed/are developing in and N of > Sydney. If people are home they may wish to load up the Sydney local radar > and Williamton is likely to get a little more interesting in the next few > hours as cells get close to the coast and into some moister air. > > Regards, > > Macca > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: clyve herbert > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:18 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Vic Thunder. > > > > Hi all. > > After a long thunder drought here in Geelong, sometimes a thunderstorm can > > appear when least expected, with a nice cold pool passing over central Vic > > this afternoon a rather small low topped (18,000 to 22,000ft) cold air > cell > > moved over the Geelong area at around 1345 and remarkably producing good > > CG,s hail and heavy rain.....just thought I would share that with > > you...regards Clyve H. > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:53:47 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon LEKIMA. X-Mailer: WorldClient Pro 2.2.0 X-MDRcpt-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Clyve. Yep. It looked so certain to head directly here last Monday morning that I added to my web page the line that lets users check the current Hong Kong Typhoon Signal status. Signal 1 is generally hoisted when the typhoon is 800km away if there is a chance it may affect HK later. Now it is well under 700 km away but it has wandered all over the place and now seems to have Fujian in its sights. Actually we have had a few high cloud bands come over here which satellite animation shows have come directly from the typhoon, but they are all high and light and haven't a sign of rain in them. There's plenty of links where you can check it out at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for those who may be interested. I will not start a specific page for this storm unless the HKO hoists signals. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 -----Original Message----- From: "clyve herbert" To: Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:25:42 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon LEKIMA. > Hi Phil, and fellow tropo's. > An interesting Typhoon paddling about near Taiwan...Showing what > appears to > be two centres one near to the south coast of Taiwan and another off > the > east coast,both interconnected, the overall system however looks as if > it > may drift northward into the East China Sea the area over Hong Kong > seems to > be in a rather large 'cloud free' area indicating strong subsidence.The > sub > tropical jet further north seems a little weak but is interacting with > outflow from this tropical complex. regards Clyve Herbert. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [155.144.17.252] From: "Simon" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Chase (toilet) Maps Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:03:30 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Sep 2001 22:03:30.0976 (UTC) FILETIME=[13F41200:01C146D7] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com



Some of you may already know about this, but on those long chases, the bodily urges and needs can have its toll.

The Australian Government have thought very strongly about the availability of public toilets, and now there is *trumpet fanfare*: www.toiletmap.gov.au

Now you can find the nearest public toilet at your disposal. You start with a map of this great land of ours, and then continue to click and zoom down to street level. I haven't explored this site too deeply, but so far, it looks quite good

 

- Simon



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From: David Findlay Organization: Davsoft To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase (toilet) Maps Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:42:03 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:03, Simon hit his keyboard with his head and the result was this: >
>



Some of you may already know about this, but on those long > chases, the bodily urges and needs can have its toll.

The > Australian Government have thought very strongly about the availability of > public toilets, and now there is *trumpet fanfare*: href="http://www.toiletmap.gov.au">www.toiletmap.gov.au

Now you > can find the nearest public toilet at your disposal. You start with a map > of this great land of ours, and then continue to click and zoom down to > street level. I haven't explored this site too deeply, but so far, it looks > quite good ROFL!!!! David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay Organization: Davsoft To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Opportunity to see an aurora 25/26 September (fwd) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:41:25 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 00:10, Robert Goler hit his keyboard with his head and the result was this: > Sorry for the offtopic post, but I thought people may be interested in > seeing an aurora, which is forecast to be seen right up into northern NSW! Did anyone see it? I drove 200km south last night, trying to find somewhere high and dark with a view to the south, but didn't see anything noticeable. At one stage there was a bit of flash of light off a distant cloud, but I don't think that was it. I did see the Byron Bay light house(only lighthouse that far out into the ocean that I can think of) though from about 50 km away. I live north of Brisbane so by the time I got home it was after 11pm. I think if I had have left earlier, and headed along the New England Highway, and knew where to go to get a good southerly view, and waited till the moon set I would have a better chance. Otherwise it was a nice drive. Anyone see it though? David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:34:43 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Opportunity to see an aurora 25/26 September Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, David Findlay had 1000 monkeys type on 1000 keyboards and the result was: > > Did anyone see it? I drove 200km south last night, trying to find somewhere > high and dark with a view to the south, but didn't see anything noticeable. > At one stage there was a bit of flash of light off a distant cloud, but I > don't think that was it. I did see the Byron Bay light house(only lighthouse > that far out into the ocean that I can think of) though from about 50 km > away. I live north of Brisbane so by the time I got home it was after 11pm. I > think if I had have left earlier, and headed along the New England Highway, > and knew where to go to get a good southerly view, and waited till the moon > set I would have a better chance. Otherwise it was a nice drive. Anyone see > it though? No :-( After sending the message, getting home and having 40 mins lie down, I drove out towards Koo Wee Rup to the swamp lookout for a good view to the south. I arrived just before 4am and stayed until 5. There were patches of sky showing through the blanket of stratocu, but nothing was unusual about the sky. Mind you, if it was subtle then I probably wouldn't have picked it out as there wasn't much sky to make a comparison with. I didn't bother with last night as the moon didn't set until 3am, and I figured my best aurora chance would've come in the evening, which would've been washed out by the moonlight. Looking at reports from around the world shows that it really wasn't that exceptional in terms of reaching low-mid latitudes. The greatest distance from the pole where it was observed was at 40N in Colorado, where it was very faint. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:41:56 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Opportunity to see an aurora 25/26 September X-Mailer: WorldClient Pro 2.2.0 X-MDRcpt-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Back around the mid 1950s (1955 for a rough guess) there was an incredible period when the Aurora Australis was bright enough to read the newspaper by for night after night at 37 degrees South. It was so bright that when one of those nights was cloudy, all of the clouds were lit up bright red by the aurora. It was always best after 11pm and until daylight the next morning. While I have seen Aurorae many times since in both hemispheres, I have never again seen it to match the brilliance of those nights back in the fifties. Of course, having lived more than a dozen years now in the tropics, the viewing of aurorae has become a past memory and not a present occupation. Thanks you guys for reminding me so my memory can stretch back to those exciting times. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 -----Original Message----- From: Robert Goler To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:34:43 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Opportunity to see an aurora 25/26 September > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, David Findlay had 1000 monkeys type on 1000 > keyboards > and the result was: > > > > Did anyone see it? I drove 200km south last night, trying to find > somewhere > > high and dark with a view to the south, but didn't see anything > noticeable. > > At one stage there was a bit of flash of light off a distant cloud, > but I > > don't think that was it. I did see the Byron Bay light house(only > lighthouse > > that far out into the ocean that I can think of) though from about 50 > km > > away. I live north of Brisbane so by the time I got home it was after > 11pm. I > > think if I had have left earlier, and headed along the New England > Highway, > > and knew where to go to get a good southerly view, and waited till > the moon > > set I would have a better chance. Otherwise it was a nice drive. > Anyone see > > it though? > > No :-( > After sending the message, getting home and having 40 mins lie down, I > drove out towards Koo Wee Rup to the swamp lookout for a good view to > the > south. I arrived just before 4am and stayed until 5. There were > patches > of sky showing through the blanket of stratocu, but nothing was unusual > about the sky. Mind you, if it was subtle then I probably wouldn't > have > picked it out as there wasn't much sky to make a comparison with. I > didn't bother with last night as the moon didn't set until 3am, and I > figured my best aurora chance would've come in the evening, which > would've > been washed out by the moonlight. > > Looking at reports from around the world shows that it really wasn't > that > exceptional in terms of reaching low-mid latitudes. The greatest > distance > from the pole where it was observed was at 40N in Colorado, where it > was > very faint. > > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > School of Mathematical Sciences > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:18:47 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase (toilet) Maps X-Mailer: WorldClient Pro 2.2.0 X-MDRcpt-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Don't you usually carry an empty milk bottle with a tight-fitting cork under the front seat of your car for precisely this purpose? Actually I looked up a few dunnies I remember in outback places and it showed the lot of them. So now, in addition to all that other equipment you take when storm chasing, you need a laptop with a satellite modem so you can locate the nearest loo to avoid having to hide in the bushes! Trouble is, by the time the map downloads, it's too late! You'll need to change your pants! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 -----Original Message----- From: "Simon" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:03:30 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Chase (toilet) Maps >

>



Some of you may already know about this, but on those long > chases, the bodily urges and needs can have its toll.

>

The Australian Government have thought very strongly about the > availability of public toilets, and now there is *trumpet fanfare*: href="http://www.toiletmap.gov.au">www.toiletmap.gov.au

>

Now you can find the nearest public toilet at your disposal. You > start with a map of this great land of ours, and then continue to click > and zoom down to street level. I haven't explored this site too deeply, > but so far, it looks quite good

>

 

>

- Simon



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Australia just gets weirder.  Still this on line listing is probably just the news to lift the Nation's spirits, 'cos after the events of 11/9, we've all been so down in the dumps.

There should be national public toilet awards, just like the Tidy Town ones, and the map, if it doesn't already, should specify whether the dunny is sewered or a long drop.

>From: "Phil Smith"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase (toilet) Maps
>Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:18:47 +0800
>
>Don't you usually carry an empty milk bottle with a tight-fitting cork
>under the front seat of your car for precisely this purpose?
>
>Actually I looked up a few dunnies I remember in outback places and it
>showed the lot of them.
>
>So now, in addition to all that other equipment you take when storm
>chasing, you need a laptop with a satellite modem so you can locate the
>nearest loo to avoid having to hide in the bushes!
>
>Trouble is, by the time the map downloads, it's too late! You'll need to
>change your pants!
>
>Phil
><><
>International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk
>Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
>Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Simon"
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:03:30 +1000
>Subject: aus-wx: Chase (toilet) Maps
>
> >
> >



Some of you may already know about this, but on those long

> > chases, the bodily urges and needs can have its toll.

> >

The Australian Government have thought very strongly about the

> > availability of public toilets, and now there is *trumpet fanfare*:
> > href="http://www.toiletmap.gov.au">www.toiletmap.gov.au

> >

Now you can find the nearest public toilet at your disposal. You

> > start with a map of this great land of ours, and then continue to click
> > and zoom down to street level. I haven't explored this site too deeply,
> > but so far, it looks quite good

> >

 

> >

- Simon



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Hi all.
I still like the term 'thunderbox' for the long drop type.regards Clyve H.
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: (Off Topic, no pun intended) Chase (toilet) Maps

Australia just gets weirder.  Still this on line listing is probably just the news to lift the Nation's spirits, 'cos after the events of 11/9, we've all been so down in the dumps.

There should be national public toilet awards, just like the Tidy Town ones, and the map, if it doesn't already, should specify whether the dunny is sewered or a long drop.

>From: "Phil Smith"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase (toilet) Maps
>Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:18:47 +0800
>
>Don't you usually carry an empty milk bottle with a tight-fitting cork
>under the front seat of your car for precisely this purpose?
>
>Actually I looked up a few dunnies I remember in outback places and it
>showed the lot of them.
>
>So now, in addition to all that other equipment you take when storm
>chasing, you need a laptop with a satellite modem so you can locate the
>nearest loo to avoid having to hide in the bushes!
>
>Trouble is, by the time the map downloads, it's too late! You'll need to
>change your pants!
>
>Phil
><><
>International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk
>Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
>Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Simon"
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:03:30 +1000
>Subject: aus-wx: Chase (toilet) Maps
>
> >
> >



Some of you may already know about this, but on those long

> > chases, the bodily urges and needs can have its toll.

> >

The Australian Government have thought very strongly about the

> > availability of public toilets, and now there is *trumpet fanfare*: > > href="http://www.toiletmap.gov.au">www.toiletmap.gov.au

> >

Now you can find the nearest public toilet at your disposal. You

> > start with a map of this great land of ours, and then continue to click
> > and zoom down to street level. I haven't explored this site too deeply,
> > but so far, it looks quite good

> >

 

> >

- Simon



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From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon LEKIMA. Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:01:04 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Found the AVN charts page for the eastern Asia area: http://weather.unisys.com/aviation/init/avn_4panel_init_easia.gif Shows 850hPa, 300hPa, thickness etc. Also the colour IR from JCU showing the outflow brilliantly!! http://www.eng.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/sector-a.gif Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- > G'day Clyve. > Yep. It looked so certain to head directly here last Monday morning that > I added to my web page the line that lets users check the current Hong > Kong Typhoon Signal status. Signal 1 is generally hoisted when the > typhoon is 800km away if there is a chance it may affect HK later. Now > it is well under 700 km away but it has wandered all over the place and > now seems to have Fujian in its sights. > Actually we have had a few high cloud bands come over here which > satellite animation shows have come directly from the typhoon, but they > are all high and light and haven't a sign of rain in them. > There's plenty of links where you can check it out at > http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for those who may be interested. I > will not start a specific page for this storm unless the HKO hoists > signals. > > Phil > <>< > International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "clyve herbert" > To: > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:25:42 +1000 > Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon LEKIMA. > > > Hi Phil, and fellow tropo's. > > An interesting Typhoon paddling about near Taiwan...Showing what > > appears to > > be two centres one near to the south coast of Taiwan and another off > > the > > east coast,both interconnected, the overall system however looks as if > > it > > may drift northward into the East China Sea the area over Hong Kong > > seems to > > be in a rather large 'cloud free' area indicating strong subsidence.The > > sub > > tropical jet further north seems a little weak but is interacting with > > outflow from this tropical complex. regards Clyve Herbert. > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: baygate.cth.com.au: Host port1.mdts.cab.cth.com.au [216.252.223.65] claimed to be zenith X-Sender: skerans at mail.cth.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 20:13:03 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Sel Kerans Subject: aus-wx: Lightning MPEG finally up on web... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, Finally had the time to review some video from July storms in South East Queensland. Found some great lightning bits and managed to get the use of a video capture card... I have a short mpeg up on the web, a 320x240 window so you can see it to best effect. Look for 'The Lightning Man' - like a stick figure drawing in lightning... about 800kb so it may be a slow download for some. http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/videos/lightning.mpg A still from the video is with another still shot of the same storm at: http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/photogallery10.htm I remember taking this stuff and thinking that one came close! This must have been it, though I was too intent at squinting at the viewfinder at the time to notice how menacing this was, apart from the noise! I had the camera trained on lightning 3-4 kms away and got a little bit of a fright. Hope you like it -makes interesting viewing stepping through a few frames at a time...2 separate strikes? Anyone have an opinion? Cheers Sel Elimbah ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sel Kerans Coordinator \|/ &&&&& Project Atmosphere Australia On-line -0- .--_|\ "/" WWW: http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa /|\ / \ \ Email: skerans at mail.cth.com.au \_.--\_/ EQ: sel.kerans at qed.qld.gov.au v ph 07 3881 9623 fax 07 3881 9640 *** Now taking registrations from schools around the world *** *** On-line activities scheduled for June, September 2001 *** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:42:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I am not sure if anybody has volunteered to keep a Internet access points database for on the road chasing. Like the excellent vantage point database ? If not, I will volunteer to start a database, but I just want to check first so I don't tread on any toes. Michael Thompson http://ozthunder.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning MPEG finally up on web... Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 21:23:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You have to watch closely, but I saw it. Looks like it was heading at you??? Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sel Kerans" To: Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 8:13 PM Subject: aus-wx: Lightning MPEG finally up on web... > Hi everyone, > > Finally had the time to review some video from July storms in South East > Queensland. Found some great lightning bits and managed to get the use of a > video capture card... > > I have a short mpeg up on the web, a 320x240 window so you can see it to > best effect. Look for 'The Lightning Man' - like a stick figure drawing in > lightning... about 800kb so it may be a slow download for some. > > http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/videos/lightning.mpg > > A still from the video is with another still shot of the same storm at: > > http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/photogallery10.htm > > I remember taking this stuff and thinking that one came close! This must > have been it, though I was too intent at squinting at the viewfinder at the > time to notice how menacing this was, apart from the noise! I had the > camera trained on lightning 3-4 kms away and got a little bit of a fright. > > Hope you like it -makes interesting viewing stepping through a few frames > at a time...2 separate strikes? Anyone have an opinion? > > Cheers > > Sel > Elimbah > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Sel Kerans > Coordinator \|/ &&&&& > Project Atmosphere Australia On-line -0- .--_|\ "/" > WWW: http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa /|\ / \ \ > Email: skerans at mail.cth.com.au \_.--\_/ > EQ: sel.kerans at qed.qld.gov.au v > > ph 07 3881 9623 fax 07 3881 9640 > > *** Now taking registrations from schools around the world *** > *** On-line activities scheduled for June, September 2001 *** > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay Organization: Davsoft To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 21:38:42 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:42, Michael Thompson hit his keyboard with his head and the result was this: > I am not sure if anybody has volunteered to keep a Internet access points > database for on the road chasing. Like the excellent vantage point database > ? > > If not, I will volunteer to start a database, but I just want to check > first so I don't tread on any toes. Here's one well placed place I know of. Just south of Twin Towns at tweed heads there's a shopping centre with a internet terminal just near the toilets. It's well placed near the pacific motorway, and a good stop point heading into NE NSW. David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 21:45:50 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Michael, You can normally find this info on your ISP's website somewhere, but still, it would be a good idea. Only catch would be knowing who uses what ISP, and how many ISP's they are. I personally just use my laptop with my cell phone (Nokia 5110) with the data cable and dial-up my ISP in Horsham when I am out and about as it's only the one number, and I find it easy to access anywhere I have digital access. Then it costs me about *grabs the phone bill* about $26 for an hour online through the cell in peak times and about $14 off peak for an hour. ***Note: This is on a $75 per month plan*** PaulY -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Thompson Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2001 19:42 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access I am not sure if anybody has volunteered to keep a Internet access points database for on the road chasing. Like the excellent vantage point database ? If not, I will volunteer to start a database, but I just want to check first so I don't tread on any toes. Michael Thompson http://ozthunder.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------ ------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 22:08:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Whoops, you meant "access points". Basically any library, and I have noticed when I were in hospital during the week, they now have a Medical Link type thing there where you can look up various medical things, but you can also type in other web addresses in these, which allowed me to look up the BoM site while I were in there. Would be a good idea to have a map, but like I said, it would take a hell of alot of time. PaulY +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Cold Air WA. Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:55:53 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2001 00:57:00.0964 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B33EE40:01C147B8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all coldies. Looks to be happening over the WA region over the next 12 hours, especially the south west corner, a large field of cold air has advanced northeast to just west of the WA southwest coast and is showing strong Vorticity near to the 500hpa cold pool.The sub tropical jet is also strengthening north-westward from Exmouth to southeast of Indonesia as the 300hpa trough deepens ahead of the approaching cold front, also the high well southwest of WA appears to be extending a strong ridge south-eastward, this will aid in the transportation of very cold air into the southwest WA region and the western Aus Bight. It will be interesting to see if the sub tropical jet manages to pull some of the moisture southeast across inland Aus over the next 24 hours.....Looking Good...regards Clyve Herbert. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon LEKIMA. Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:00:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2001 01:01:40.0666 (UTC) FILETIME=[21EB11A0:01C147B9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all tropos Typhoon Lekima seems to have weakened to a tropical storm, although outflow has now become caught up by the sub tropical jet and spread rain across much of Japan. The former centre just northeast of Taiwan looks as if it will soon move under a strengthening upper shear with the whole lot blown away to the northeast,although the lower area of vorticity may hug the China coast for a little longer. Regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane ONeill To: Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 7:01 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon LEKIMA. > Evening all, > > Found the AVN charts page for the eastern Asia area: > http://weather.unisys.com/aviation/init/avn_4panel_init_easia.gif > Shows 850hPa, 300hPa, thickness etc. > > Also the colour IR from JCU showing the outflow brilliantly!! > http://www.eng.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/sector-a.gif > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > G'day Clyve. > > Yep. It looked so certain to head directly here last Monday morning > that > > I added to my web page the line that lets users check the current Hong > > Kong Typhoon Signal status. Signal 1 is generally hoisted when the > > typhoon is 800km away if there is a chance it may affect HK later. > Now > > it is well under 700 km away but it has wandered all over the place > and > > now seems to have Fujian in its sights. > > Actually we have had a few high cloud bands come over here which > > satellite animation shows have come directly from the typhoon, but > they > > are all high and light and haven't a sign of rain in them. > > There's plenty of links where you can check it out at > > http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for those who may be interested. > I > > will not start a specific page for this storm unless the HKO hoists > > signals. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "clyve herbert" > > To: > > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:25:42 +1000 > > Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon LEKIMA. > > > > > Hi Phil, and fellow tropo's. > > > An interesting Typhoon paddling about near Taiwan...Showing what > > > appears to > > > be two centres one near to the south coast of Taiwan and another off > > > the > > > east coast,both interconnected, the overall system however looks as > if > > > it > > > may drift northward into the East China Sea the area over Hong Kong > > > seems to > > > be in a rather large 'cloud free' area indicating strong > subsidence.The > > > sub > > > tropical jet further north seems a little weak but is interacting > with > > > outflow from this tropical complex. regards Clyve Herbert. > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:20:25 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sorry for the one liner...but, what is a "cell phone?" AC Paul Yole wrote: > > Michael, > > You can normally find this info on your ISP's website > somewhere, but still, it would be a good idea. Only catch > would be knowing who uses what ISP, and how many ISP's they > are. > > I personally just use my laptop with my cell phone (Nokia > 5110) with the data cable and dial-up my ISP in Horsham when > I am out and about as it's only the one number, and I find > it easy to access anywhere I have digital access. Then it > costs me about *grabs the phone bill* about $26 for an hour > online through the cell in peak times and about $14 off peak > for an hour. ***Note: This is on a $75 per month plan*** > > PaulY > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of > Michael > Thompson > Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2001 19:42 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access > > I am not sure if anybody has volunteered to keep a Internet > access points > database for on the road chasing. Like the excellent vantage > point database > ? > > If not, I will volunteer to start a database, but I just > want to check first > so I don't tread on any toes. > > Michael Thompson > http://ozthunder.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > +-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------ > ------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Met Support 3" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:04:02 +1000 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com cell phone = mobile phone Generally an american term because of the way they are marketed over there i believe. Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:20 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access > Sorry for the one liner...but, what is a "cell phone?" > > AC > > Paul Yole wrote: > > > > Michael, > > > > You can normally find this info on your ISP's website > > somewhere, but still, it would be a good idea. Only catch > > would be knowing who uses what ISP, and how many ISP's they > > are. > > > > I personally just use my laptop with my cell phone (Nokia > > 5110) with the data cable and dial-up my ISP in Horsham when > > I am out and about as it's only the one number, and I find > > it easy to access anywhere I have digital access. Then it > > costs me about *grabs the phone bill* about $26 for an hour > > online through the cell in peak times and about $14 off peak > > for an hour. ***Note: This is on a $75 per month plan*** > > > > PaulY > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of > > Michael > > Thompson > > Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2001 19:42 > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access > > > > I am not sure if anybody has volunteered to keep a Internet > > access points > > database for on the road chasing. Like the excellent vantage > > point database > > ? > > > > If not, I will volunteer to start a database, but I just > > want to check first > > so I don't tread on any toes. > > > > Michael Thompson > > http://ozthunder.com > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > +-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > > body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------ > > ------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:35:49 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE thunder Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You Vics should all move to Rutherglen with Bussie, he gets heaps of storms ! :) Matt Smith Bussie wrote: > Thunderstorm passing over currently just north of town with only the edge of > the rain here. Few CG's and lots of rumbling. Temp here has dropped 3 > degrees in the last ten minutes. > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p1003-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.143.241] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:40:08 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A mobile. lol. Anthony Cornelius wrote: > Sorry for the one liner...but, what is a "cell phone?" > > AC > > Paul Yole wrote: > > > > Michael, > > > > You can normally find this info on your ISP's website > > somewhere, but still, it would be a good idea. Only catch > > would be knowing who uses what ISP, and how many ISP's they > > are. > > > > I personally just use my laptop with my cell phone (Nokia > > 5110) with the data cable and dial-up my ISP in Horsham when > > I am out and about as it's only the one number, and I find > > it easy to access anywhere I have digital access. Then it > > costs me about *grabs the phone bill* about $26 for an hour > > online through the cell in peak times and about $14 off peak > > for an hour. ***Note: This is on a $75 per month plan*** > > > > PaulY > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of > > Michael > > Thompson > > Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2001 19:42 > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access > > > > I am not sure if anybody has volunteered to keep a Internet > > access points > > database for on the road chasing. Like the excellent vantage > > point database > > ? > > > > If not, I will volunteer to start a database, but I just > > want to check first > > so I don't tread on any toes. > > > > Michael Thompson > > http://ozthunder.com > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > +-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > > body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------ > > ------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p1003-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.143.241] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:15:55 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The "cell" derives not from marketing considerations, but rather from the technical nature of the system architecture, ie, the arrangement of the service areas provided from each tower into overlapping "cells" and in particular, to the control logic which transfers your phone (either when dormant or during a continuous call) as say you drive along a road, and thus transit from one "cell"into another "cell". The system transfers you from one base station to another without you realising it. On some phones, you can turn on a feature which will show you which tower you are logged into. If you are driving along (only do this as a passenger obviously), you can see it change from one tower to the next. Indeed, even when stationary, it may jump from tower to tower. The design of each "cell"service area is essentially octagonal, so that any phone should be able to "see" 5 or 6 towers at any one time (under ideal conditions, and in a city say, where the coverage area completely surrounds your location). The phone and towers then negotiate re power levels for the best reception at minimum power for the handset (to save battery power) ie, pick the best tower for you, depending on range, interveining attenuating objects etc. How technical do you want me to get. Anyway, suffice to say that the system is very smart really. So, cell phones or mobiles, call them what you like, but yes, the architecture is cellular, and when you look at the cell coverage maps per tower (at design level - not public level), it looks like looking at a bacteria under a microscope, hence, cells. OK. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: aus-wx: Hot day in Darwin To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:43:57 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Darwin got to 36.6 yesterday. This is their highest temperature for eight years (since 37.1 on 1/11/1993), and their highest in September since 37.7 on 17/9/1983. There are only three days above 37.2 in the Darwin Airport record; the aforementioned 1983 reading (the September record), 38.9 on 18/10/1982, and 37.8 on 11/10/1991. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Dwyer" To: Subject: aus-wx: Low deepening, Perth, SW WA, weather event unfolding Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:15:38 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
Well it's looking pretty good for Perth and the SW latter on today :):), Gusts to 81 Km/H at North Is already and Gusts over 60K/M along the coast from North of Gerladton all the way round the Capes. STA has been issued for the SE of the state along with Road Wx Alert for Metro area atm. The Barometric pressure is already below 1000 hPa at Rottnest Is, the BoM are forecasting the Low that is developing of the SW corner atm to reach 993 hPa. So we should be in for wet and wild night tonight :):):).
 
These current observations have not been quality controlled.
Last updated: 12:10 AWST Friday 28 September 2001

Location Current Observations
Date Time
(AWST)
Temp
(deg C)
Dew point
(deg C)
Rel Hum
(%)
Wind dir Wind speed Wind gust Press
(hPa)
Rain since 9am
(mm)
(km/h) (knots) (km/h) (knots)
BICKLEY 28 12:00 14.2 11.4 83 NNW 18 10 31 17 - 0.6
JANDAKOT AIRPORT 28 12:10 16.2 14.3 88 N 20 11 26 14 1001.2 1.6
MANDURAH 28 12:00 - - - N 22 12 39 21 1000.0 -
MELVILLE WATER 28 12:10 - - - N 25 14 35 19 - -
OCEAN REEF 28 12:10 - - - N 24 13 33 18 - -
PERTH AIRPORT 28 12:10 16.0 13.8 86 NNW 20 11 26 14 1001.3 0.8
PERTH METRO 28 12:10 15.7 13.7 88 N 20 11 28 15 1001.3 1.0
ROTTNEST ISLAND 28 12:10 16.4 13.1 81 N 40 22 52 28 999.3 0.4
SWANBOURNE 28 12:10 17.5 13.4 77 NNW 29 15 43 23 - 0.0
 
 
MJ.
X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hot day in Darwin Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:59:10 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2001 04:59:11.0090 (UTC) FILETIME=[4FD53520:01C147DA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Noticed this too, last night on the new local ABC news, here in Canberra.

Immediately wondered about the why.  What combination of conditions leads to such anomalies?  We hear about the so called heat low kicking in, in late August, over one of the hottest part of the country, the Kimberleys.

Is this high, and other high temperatures in Darwin at this time of the year caused by relatively clear skies and hot air making its way from the area where the heat low resides at this time of the year?  Grateful for any theories or reasons, Blair, or Paul M.

>From: Blair Trewin
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather)
>Subject: aus-wx: Hot day in Darwin
>Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:43:57 +1000 (EST)
>
>Darwin got to 36.6 yesterday. This is their highest temperature
>for eight years (since 37.1 on 1/11/1993), and their highest in
>September since 37.7 on 17/9/1983.
>
>There are only three days above 37.2 in the Darwin Airport record;
>the aforementioned 1983 reading (the September record), 38.9 on
>18/10/1982, and 37.8 on 11/10/1991.
>
>
>Blair
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X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) From: "Seona Phillips" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:00:09 +0800 Subject: aus-wx: Brisbane - Pyrocumulus Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just noticed a rather short lived, but nonetheless interesting, pyrocumulus over Brisbane's northside. I was looking at the smoke thinking - "wonder if it's the right conditions for a pyrocumulus?" when it started to form before my eyes. 10 minutes later it was gone! That's a first for me! :) Seona -- _______________________________________________ Have you downloaded the latest calling software from Net2Phone? Click here to get it now! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=NH211JK&url=http://commcenter.net2phone.com/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) From: "Seona Phillips" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:04:20 +0800 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Question - if there is such a thing as a "vantage point" database how can I borrow/purchase/otherwise acquire a copy. I have dreadful trouble finding good vantage points. Always too many confounded trees or buildings or powerpoles in the way.... Seona -----Original Message----- From: "Michael Thompson" Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:42:11 +1000 To: Subject: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access > I am not sure if anybody has volunteered to keep a Internet access points > database for on the road chasing. Like the excellent vantage point database > ? > > If not, I will volunteer to start a database, but I just want to check first > so I don't tread on any toes. > > Michael Thompson > http://ozthunder.com > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- _______________________________________________ Have you downloaded the latest calling software from Net2Phone? Click here to get it now! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=NH211JK&url=http://commcenter.net2phone.com/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glenn Will" To: Subject: aus-wx: kalgoorlie weather/afternoon storms Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:56:24 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hi all,
        after constantly monitoring this list most days for the last couple of years,I feel that I should contribute something from our area!Here goes-for the last couple of hours we have been subjected to some fairly heavy thunderstorms with lots of rain-fairly unusual for this area at this time of the year-and from what I can see on the radar-more of the same to come.Also,,just a quick passing observation-it is pleasing to see that there are lots of people like myself out there taking a real interest in the weather-keep up the good work!
                                                                  regards,
                                                                              Glenn Will-Amateur weather
                                                                               observer/enthusiast.
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 15:48:42 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: kalgoorlie weather/afternoon storms X-Mailer: WorldClient Pro 2.2.0 X-MDRcpt-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Glenn. Welcome to the list. Don't hold back for a couple of years at a time though, tell us what's happening anytime. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672 -----Original Message----- From: "Glenn Will" To: Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:56:24 +0800 Subject: aus-wx: kalgoorlie weather/afternoon storms > hi all, > after constantly monitoring this list most days for the last > couple of years,I feel that I should contribute something from our > area!Here goes-for the last couple of hours we have been subjected to > some fairly heavy thunderstorms with lots of rain-fairly unusual for > this area at this time of the year-and from what I can see on the > radar-more of the same to come.Also,,just a quick passing > observation-it is pleasing to see that there are lots of people like > myself out there taking a real interest in the weather-keep up the good > work! > > regards, > > Glenn Will-Amateur weather > > observer/enthusiast. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:25:34 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning MPEG finally up on web... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great stuff Sel! Hopefully I'll be able get some footage of lightning like that soon, although ATM I'll probably have to get out of Vic to do it! Just looking through the video more carefully, I'd say the waist and legs of 'The Lightning Man' is a magnified and distorted reflection within the video camera of the neck and arms (since you said that you didn't shoot it through a window). You can especially see this in the left leg with the curved structure. The right leg seems to be distorted more owing to it being on the right edge of the lens. ?The brightening of the legs right near the base may be due to the greater curvature of the lens near the edge, and results in increased magnification? he says hesitantly. As for the reason why the reflection isn't a complete mirror reflection of the original bolt, ie upside down and flipped left-right, the reflection must take place off an even number of interfaces, and most lenses used nowadays would consist of some combination of lens glued together. In frame 39, a bolt is seen near the bottom of the image together with the lightning bolt extending from the cloud. If you look carefully, you can see some faint forkings off the bolt at the bottom, which would suggest it a reflection of the bolt above (see the faint bolt to the left of the main reflected bolt, and compare with the real bolt). Unfortunately, the main bolt is a little too bright to judge its exact shape, but I would assume a similiar type of distorted reflection as mentioned above. Frame 40 which shows the bright bolt extending futher up and can be matched with a very dim bolt to the left which can be seen passing behind the tree. The curves agree quite well, keeping in mind that the brighter bolt is displaced downwards with respect to the fainter one (trace the double hump of the brighter bolt directly up). So, you could attribute this to reflection, but then there's the question as to why it is soo much brighter than the real bolt. I'm guessing that the real bolt actually hit the ground with the same brightness as shown in frame 39, but it was missed with the video camera (almost hard to believe at ~30 frames/sec). So, I'm suggesting that the remnants of this strike is this fainter bolt left over, and that the reflection was carried over into the next image. (Dann, how does that 1.5 frame thing work?) Anyway, in frame (41), this bright bolt disappears, while the fainter one is still there, suggesting that it is too faint to cause a reflection in the camera. Well, that's my opinion! On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Sel Kerans wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Finally had the time to review some video from July storms in South East > Queensland. Found some great lightning bits and managed to get the use of a > video capture card... > > I have a short mpeg up on the web, a 320x240 window so you can see it to > best effect. Look for 'The Lightning Man' - like a stick figure drawing in > lightning... about 800kb so it may be a slow download for some. > > http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/videos/lightning.mpg > > A still from the video is with another still shot of the same storm at: > > http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/photogallery10.htm > > I remember taking this stuff and thinking that one came close! This must > have been it, though I was too intent at squinting at the viewfinder at the > time to notice how menacing this was, apart from the noise! I had the > camera trained on lightning 3-4 kms away and got a little bit of a fright. > > Hope you like it -makes interesting viewing stepping through a few frames > at a time...2 separate strikes? Anyone have an opinion? > Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: oyam at bigpond.com To: Subject: aus-wx: CAMEX Top Guns Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 03:57:36 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 Thread-Index: AcFH+56KPHUu2VowRJSgCmrlmN/tZQ== X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2001 08:57:36.0736 (UTC) FILETIME=[9EA98E00:01C147FB] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id EAA08404 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi! I thought you'd be interested in this story from Science at NASA: Flying into the largest storms on Earth is all in a day's work for pilots on a NASA mission to explore hurricanes. In this story the daring aviators tell us what it's like to have a close encounter with one of the mighty storms. http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast27sep_1.htm?friend (or CAMEX Top Guns .) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: "Australian Severe Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: Re Camex Top Guns Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:13:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
 The email that we sent to the list is about pilots who fly into storms.  You will all find it interesting !!!!
 
Judy Mayo
From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Poetry Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:08:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, what do weather nuts do on Friday nights while waiting for systems to progress across the country? (BTW, that cold air being slung northwards from the Southern Ocean is destabilising things dramatically - if it gets around the eastern side of the 850hPa low it'll make things very interesting......) anyway...you find all manner of weird & wonderful things in filing cabinets (especially when your filing system resembles mine) & I found a poem that I lifted from the Weekend Australian of 13-14/3/99. I hope Geoff Page doesn't mind me borrowing it...... **The Sky** "All poetry," says Ashbery, "is basically about the weather." And paying for a view at last I find that I agree I like to watch it blowing in, the stateliness of clouds through glass. I like to see the shift of showers sideways through the postcodes, the way they bump against the hills. Connoisseur of mountain haze, I watch the blues of smoke or mist out there on the ranges. Also the indigos of dusk, the violets dropping off the spectrum, the street lights coming on. Some people like to feel the soil dissolve between their fingers, the flowers it might, with care, supply. My balcony's low maintenance. I cultivate the sky. I remember that a certain Anthony person wrote a poem or two a year or three ago, but I'll leave them on my hard drive unless he wants to add them...... Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:23:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Seona There used to be a vantage point database on the ASWA members site. I can no longer find it. The site is due for upgrade, so it may reappear then. Will let you know. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seona Phillips" To: Sent: Friday, 28 September 2001 16:04 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access > Hi, > > Question - if there is such a thing as a "vantage point" database how can I borrow/purchase/otherwise acquire a copy. I have dreadful trouble finding good vantage points. Always too many confounded trees or buildings or powerpoles in the way.... > > Seona > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Michael Thompson" > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:42:11 +1000 > To: > Subject: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access > > > > I am not sure if anybody has volunteered to keep a Internet access points > > database for on the road chasing. Like the excellent vantage point database > > ? > > > > If not, I will volunteer to start a database, but I just want to check first > > so I don't tread on any toes. > > > > Michael Thompson > > http://ozthunder.com > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Have you downloaded the latest calling software from Net2Phone? Click here to get it now! > > http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=NH211JK&url=http://comm center.net2phone.com/ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [165.228.129.11] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: kalgoorlie weather/afternoon storms Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:51:30 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2001 10:51:31.0105 (UTC) FILETIME=[88438110:01C1480B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Glenn!! If your email address hints at anything, it looks like i've found someone who loves the weather / storms AND golf just like myself!!! If so do you play regularly, and what handicap do you play off? Any others out there that share this same interest?? David Sercombe Coffs Harbour NSW. (hoping the storms will be cranking on Tuesday in NE NSW!!) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: kalgoorlie weather/afternoon storms Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:15:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I generally average about 70 -72.....................per nine holes. As you can see my biggest handicap is myself. Michael > play regularly, and what handicap do you play off? Any others out there that > share this same interest?? > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: kalgoorlie weather/afternoon storms Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:12:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sort of share it. I don't know anything about golf other than don't play out in the open during a storm :-) Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Sercombe" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 8:51 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: kalgoorlie weather/afternoon storms > Hi Glenn!! > > If your email address hints at anything, it looks like i've found someone > who loves the weather / storms AND golf just like myself!!! If so do you > play regularly, and what handicap do you play off? Any others out there that > share this same interest?? > > David Sercombe > Coffs Harbour NSW. > (hoping the storms will be cranking on Tuesday in NE NSW!!) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Monday's storm chances improve Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:18:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For those who can only chase on weekends and public holidays the chances for Monday activity the southern NSW have improved with the lastest run of models. A substantial trough should be SW of Sydney and pre frontal NW winds look less likely then they did earlier. Concern now is how much cloud will come through, too much and we may just have a rain event. Michael Thompson http://ozthunder.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 01:04:13 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, Nothing like this has been done, the closest equivalent is a stormchasers' list database incorporating a list of phone numbers you can call to ask for updates if you don't have anyone else to call. As a general rule, you'll get internet access at: - Libraries, all libraries have internet access but the conditions are highly variable (ie, sometimes a cost, sometimes it's free, sometimes you need to book, other times it's first in first serve etc) - Internet cafe's, but they've taken a downturn in popularity now, so they're quite scarce so... - Computer shops in towns tend to have internet access - just go for a drive around the town centre and you'll see one or two computer shops (depending on the size), and most of the times they have internet access - but this is never free. AC Michael Thompson wrote: > > I am not sure if anybody has volunteered to keep a Internet access points > database for on the road chasing. Like the excellent vantage point database > ? > > If not, I will volunteer to start a database, but I just want to check first > so I don't tread on any toes. > > Michael Thompson > http://ozthunder.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 00:57:54 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael and Seona, The new ASWA site will be released very soon! Most of it has been completed. The new members area will have the advantage point database back online :) Anthony Cornelius Vice-President ASWA Michael Thompson wrote: > > Hi Seona > > There used to be a vantage point database on the ASWA members site. I can no > longer find it. The site is due for upgrade, so it may reappear then. Will > let you know. > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Seona Phillips" > To: > Sent: Friday, 28 September 2001 16:04 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access > > > Hi, > > > > Question - if there is such a thing as a "vantage point" database how can > I borrow/purchase/otherwise acquire a copy. I have dreadful trouble finding > good vantage points. Always too many confounded trees or buildings or > powerpoles in the way.... > > > > Seona > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Michael Thompson" > > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:42:11 +1000 > > To: > > Subject: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access > > > > > > > I am not sure if anybody has volunteered to keep a Internet access > points > > > database for on the road chasing. Like the excellent vantage point > database > > > ? > > > > > > If not, I will volunteer to start a database, but I just want to check > first > > > so I don't tread on any toes. > > > > > > Michael Thompson > > > http://ozthunder.com > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Have you downloaded the latest calling software from Net2Phone? Click here > to get it now! > > > > > http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=NH211JK&url=http://comm > center.net2phone.com/ > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [165.228.129.11] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: kalgoorlie weather/afternoon storms Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:33:45 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2001 23:33:45.0428 (UTC) FILETIME=[040B6140:01C14876] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That's one of people's most common things to say when i ask them their handicap - (myself). I play quite reguarly, and play off a handicap of 9. David Sercombe Coffs Harbour, NSW _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: baygate.cth.com.au: Host port24.mdts.cab.cth.com.au [216.252.223.88] claimed to be zenith X-Sender: skerans at mail.cth.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 10:22:57 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Sel Kerans Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning MPEG finally up on web... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi and thanks for your say on this - I agree that perhaps there is some reflection going on...though hard to justify as you say with what you'd expect to be reflected. Didn't think it was close enough to be almost at my feet, though the sound just about knocked me off my feet! Hard to say though - inconsistencies are there and I will look at the whole 2-3 minutes of video fro other evidence of relection. Behind the tree there is a small lake, so perhaps it was a stike on the water or perhaps some reflection happening there off water??? Hard to say but it make an entertaining bit of video. If I can get the time, I'll scour the rest of the whole shoot more closely and add more snippets. Come on summer storms! Sel. At 18:25 28/09/01 +1000, you wrote: > >Great stuff Sel! Hopefully I'll be able get some footage of lightning >like that soon, although ATM I'll probably have to get out of Vic to do >it! > >Just looking through the video more carefully, I'd say the waist and legs >of 'The Lightning Man' is a magnified and distorted reflection within the >video camera of the neck and arms (since you said that you didn't shoot it >through a window). You can especially see this in the left leg with the >curved structure. The right leg seems to be distorted more owing to it >being on the right edge of the lens. ?The brightening of the legs right >near the base may be due to the greater curvature of the lens near the >edge, and results in increased magnification? he says hesitantly. As for >the reason why the reflection isn't a complete mirror reflection of the >original bolt, ie upside down and flipped left-right, the reflection must >take place off an even number of interfaces, and most lenses used nowadays >would consist of some combination of lens glued together. > >In frame 39, a bolt is seen near the bottom of the image together with the >lightning bolt extending from the cloud. If you look carefully, you can >see some faint forkings off the bolt at the bottom, which would suggest it >a reflection of the bolt above (see the faint bolt to the left of the main >reflected bolt, and compare with the real bolt). Unfortunately, the main >bolt is a little too bright to judge its exact shape, but I would assume a >similiar type of distorted reflection as mentioned above. > >Frame 40 which shows the bright bolt extending futher up and can be >matched with a very dim bolt to the left which can be seen passing behind >the tree. The curves agree quite well, keeping in mind that the brighter >bolt is displaced downwards with respect to the fainter one (trace the >double hump of the brighter bolt directly up). So, you could attribute >this to reflection, but then there's the question as to why it is soo much >brighter than the real bolt. I'm guessing that the real bolt actually hit >the ground with the same brightness as shown in frame 39, but it was >missed with the video camera (almost hard to believe at ~30 frames/sec). >So, I'm suggesting that the remnants of this strike is this fainter bolt >left over, and that the reflection was carried over into the next image. >(Dann, how does that 1.5 frame thing work?) Anyway, in frame (41), this >bright bolt disappears, while the fainter one is still there, suggesting >that it is too faint to cause a reflection in the camera. > >Well, that's my opinion! > > >On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Sel Kerans wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> Finally had the time to review some video from July storms in South East >> Queensland. Found some great lightning bits and managed to get the use of a >> video capture card... >> >> I have a short mpeg up on the web, a 320x240 window so you can see it to >> best effect. Look for 'The Lightning Man' - like a stick figure drawing in >> lightning... about 800kb so it may be a slow download for some. >> >> http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/videos/lightning.mpg >> >> A still from the video is with another still shot of the same storm at: >> >> http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/photogallery10.htm >> >> I remember taking this stuff and thinking that one came close! This must >> have been it, though I was too intent at squinting at the viewfinder at the >> time to notice how menacing this was, apart from the noise! I had the >> camera trained on lightning 3-4 kms away and got a little bit of a fright. >> >> Hope you like it -makes interesting viewing stepping through a few frames >> at a time...2 separate strikes? Anyone have an opinion? >> > > >Cheers > >-- > >Robert A. Goler > >School of Mathematical Sciences >Monash University >Clayton, Vic 3800 >Australia > >ph. +61 3 9905 4424 >email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > >-- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sel Kerans Coordinator \|/ &&&&& Project Atmosphere Australia On-line -0- .--_|\ "/" WWW: http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa /|\ / \ \ Email: skerans at mail.cth.com.au \_.--\_/ EQ: sel.kerans at qed.qld.gov.au v ph 07 3881 9623 fax 07 3881 9640 *** Now taking registrations from schools around the world *** *** On-line activities scheduled for June, September 2001 *** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p241-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.140.241] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 12:44:55 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning MPEG finally up on web... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Sel and all, I wasn't going to respond on this but now that it was mentioned, I don't feel as biased. I feel there is reflection as the lightning is coming from a cloud further away. If the lightning was that close, you would have had a very loud instant bang. Was this the case? Anyway, just my view if I may say. Jimmy Deguara At 10:22 AM 29/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: >Hi and thanks for your say on this - I agree that perhaps there is some >reflection going on...though hard to justify as you say with what you'd >expect to be reflected. Didn't think it was close enough to be almost at my >feet, though the sound just about knocked me off my feet! > >Hard to say though - inconsistencies are there and I will look at the whole >2-3 minutes of video fro other evidence of relection. > >Behind the tree there is a small lake, so perhaps it was a stike on the >water or perhaps some reflection happening there off water??? > >Hard to say but it make an entertaining bit of video. > >If I can get the time, I'll scour the rest of the whole shoot more closely >and add more snippets. > >Come on summer storms! > >Sel. > > >At 18:25 28/09/01 +1000, you wrote: > > > >Great stuff Sel! Hopefully I'll be able get some footage of lightning > >like that soon, although ATM I'll probably have to get out of Vic to do > >it! > > > >Just looking through the video more carefully, I'd say the waist and legs > >of 'The Lightning Man' is a magnified and distorted reflection within the > >video camera of the neck and arms (since you said that you didn't shoot it > >through a window). You can especially see this in the left leg with the > >curved structure. The right leg seems to be distorted more owing to it > >being on the right edge of the lens. ?The brightening of the legs right > >near the base may be due to the greater curvature of the lens near the > >edge, and results in increased magnification? he says hesitantly. As for > >the reason why the reflection isn't a complete mirror reflection of the > >original bolt, ie upside down and flipped left-right, the reflection must > >take place off an even number of interfaces, and most lenses used nowadays > >would consist of some combination of lens glued together. > > > >In frame 39, a bolt is seen near the bottom of the image together with the > >lightning bolt extending from the cloud. If you look carefully, you can > >see some faint forkings off the bolt at the bottom, which would suggest it > >a reflection of the bolt above (see the faint bolt to the left of the main > >reflected bolt, and compare with the real bolt). Unfortunately, the main > >bolt is a little too bright to judge its exact shape, but I would assume a > >similiar type of distorted reflection as mentioned above. > > > >Frame 40 which shows the bright bolt extending futher up and can be > >matched with a very dim bolt to the left which can be seen passing behind > >the tree. The curves agree quite well, keeping in mind that the brighter > >bolt is displaced downwards with respect to the fainter one (trace the > >double hump of the brighter bolt directly up). So, you could attribute > >this to reflection, but then there's the question as to why it is soo much > >brighter than the real bolt. I'm guessing that the real bolt actually hit > >the ground with the same brightness as shown in frame 39, but it was > >missed with the video camera (almost hard to believe at ~30 frames/sec). > >So, I'm suggesting that the remnants of this strike is this fainter bolt > >left over, and that the reflection was carried over into the next image. > >(Dann, how does that 1.5 frame thing work?) Anyway, in frame (41), this > >bright bolt disappears, while the fainter one is still there, suggesting > >that it is too faint to cause a reflection in the camera. > > > >Well, that's my opinion! > > > > > >On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Sel Kerans wrote: > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> Finally had the time to review some video from July storms in South East > >> Queensland. Found some great lightning bits and managed to get the use > of a > >> video capture card... > >> > >> I have a short mpeg up on the web, a 320x240 window so you can see it to > >> best effect. Look for 'The Lightning Man' - like a stick figure drawing in > >> lightning... about 800kb so it may be a slow download for some. > >> > >> http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/videos/lightning.mpg > >> > >> A still from the video is with another still shot of the same storm at: > >> > >> http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/photogallery10.htm > >> > >> I remember taking this stuff and thinking that one came close! This must > >> have been it, though I was too intent at squinting at the viewfinder > at the > >> time to notice how menacing this was, apart from the noise! I had the > >> camera trained on lightning 3-4 kms away and got a little bit of a > fright. > >> > >> Hope you like it -makes interesting viewing stepping through a few frames > >> at a time...2 separate strikes? Anyone have an opinion? > >> > > > > > >Cheers > > > >-- > > > >Robert A. Goler > > > >School of Mathematical Sciences > >Monash University > >Clayton, Vic 3800 > >Australia > > > >ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > >email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > > >-- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Sel Kerans > Coordinator \|/ &&&&& > Project Atmosphere Australia On-line -0- .--_|\ "/" > WWW: http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa /|\ / \ \ > Email: skerans at mail.cth.com.au \_.--\_/ > EQ: sel.kerans at qed.qld.gov.au v > > ph 07 3881 9623 fax 07 3881 9640 > > *** Now taking registrations from schools around the world *** > *** On-line activities scheduled for June, September 2001 *** > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 13:20:25 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning MPEG finally up on web... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Looks like a reflection to me, everyone has it from taking night time video of lightning when the strike is bright, macca, anthony, myself have it on video (the reflection of a strike in the camera, making it seem closer) it comes across from time to time on aus-wx this topic, if the strike had hit at your feet like the reflection suggests, you would have been knocked flat on your back. Matt Smith Jimmy Deguara wrote: > Hi Sel and all, > > I wasn't going to respond on this but now that it was mentioned, I don't > feel as biased. > > I feel there is reflection as the lightning is coming from a cloud further > away. If the lightning was that close, you would have had a very loud > instant bang. Was this the case? > > Anyway, just my view if I may say. > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 10:22 AM 29/9/2001 +1000, you wrote: > >Hi and thanks for your say on this - I agree that perhaps there is some > >reflection going on...though hard to justify as you say with what you'd > >expect to be reflected. Didn't think it was close enough to be almost at my > >feet, though the sound just about knocked me off my feet! > > > >Hard to say though - inconsistencies are there and I will look at the whole > >2-3 minutes of video fro other evidence of relection. > > > >Behind the tree there is a small lake, so perhaps it was a stike on the > >water or perhaps some reflection happening there off water??? > > > >Hard to say but it make an entertaining bit of video. > > > >If I can get the time, I'll scour the rest of the whole shoot more closely > >and add more snippets. > > > >Come on summer storms! > > > >Sel. > > > > > >At 18:25 28/09/01 +1000, you wrote: > > > > > >Great stuff Sel! Hopefully I'll be able get some footage of lightning > > >like that soon, although ATM I'll probably have to get out of Vic to do > > >it! > > > > > >Just looking through the video more carefully, I'd say the waist and legs > > >of 'The Lightning Man' is a magnified and distorted reflection within the > > >video camera of the neck and arms (since you said that you didn't shoot it > > >through a window). You can especially see this in the left leg with the > > >curved structure. The right leg seems to be distorted more owing to it > > >being on the right edge of the lens. ?The brightening of the legs right > > >near the base may be due to the greater curvature of the lens near the > > >edge, and results in increased magnification? he says hesitantly. As for > > >the reason why the reflection isn't a complete mirror reflection of the > > >original bolt, ie upside down and flipped left-right, the reflection must > > >take place off an even number of interfaces, and most lenses used nowadays > > >would consist of some combination of lens glued together. > > > > > >In frame 39, a bolt is seen near the bottom of the image together with the > > >lightning bolt extending from the cloud. If you look carefully, you can > > >see some faint forkings off the bolt at the bottom, which would suggest it > > >a reflection of the bolt above (see the faint bolt to the left of the main > > >reflected bolt, and compare with the real bolt). Unfortunately, the main > > >bolt is a little too bright to judge its exact shape, but I would assume a > > >similiar type of distorted reflection as mentioned above. > > > > > >Frame 40 which shows the bright bolt extending futher up and can be > > >matched with a very dim bolt to the left which can be seen passing behind > > >the tree. The curves agree quite well, keeping in mind that the brighter > > >bolt is displaced downwards with respect to the fainter one (trace the > > >double hump of the brighter bolt directly up). So, you could attribute > > >this to reflection, but then there's the question as to why it is soo much > > >brighter than the real bolt. I'm guessing that the real bolt actually hit > > >the ground with the same brightness as shown in frame 39, but it was > > >missed with the video camera (almost hard to believe at ~30 frames/sec). > > >So, I'm suggesting that the remnants of this strike is this fainter bolt > > >left over, and that the reflection was carried over into the next image. > > >(Dann, how does that 1.5 frame thing work?) Anyway, in frame (41), this > > >bright bolt disappears, while the fainter one is still there, suggesting > > >that it is too faint to cause a reflection in the camera. > > > > > >Well, that's my opinion! > > > > > > > > >On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Sel Kerans wrote: > > > > > >> Hi everyone, > > >> > > >> Finally had the time to review some video from July storms in South East > > >> Queensland. Found some great lightning bits and managed to get the use > > of a > > >> video capture card... > > >> > > >> I have a short mpeg up on the web, a 320x240 window so you can see it to > > >> best effect. Look for 'The Lightning Man' - like a stick figure drawing in > > >> lightning... about 800kb so it may be a slow download for some. > > >> > > >> http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/videos/lightning.mpg > > >> > > >> A still from the video is with another still shot of the same storm at: > > >> > > >> http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/photogallery10.htm > > >> > > >> I remember taking this stuff and thinking that one came close! This must > > >> have been it, though I was too intent at squinting at the viewfinder > > at the > > >> time to notice how menacing this was, apart from the noise! I had the > > >> camera trained on lightning 3-4 kms away and got a little bit of a > > fright. > > >> > > >> Hope you like it -makes interesting viewing stepping through a few frames > > >> at a time...2 separate strikes? Anyone have an opinion? > > >> > > > > > > > > >Cheers > > > > > >-- > > > > > >Robert A. Goler > > > > > >School of Mathematical Sciences > > >Monash University > > >Clayton, Vic 3800 > > >Australia > > > > > >ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > > >email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > > >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > > > > >-- > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Sel Kerans > > Coordinator \|/ &&&&& > > Project Atmosphere Australia On-line -0- .--_|\ "/" > > WWW: http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa /|\ / \ \ > > Email: skerans at mail.cth.com.au \_.--\_/ > > EQ: sel.kerans at qed.qld.gov.au v > > > > ph 07 3881 9623 fax 07 3881 9640 > > > > *** Now taking registrations from schools around the world *** > > *** On-line activities scheduled for June, September 2001 *** > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 13:13:59 +0800 From: john kinsella X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Re: aussie-weather-digest V1 #1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com nice to see some poetry on the list - that's actually why i am on it. i am writing a series of weather poems. weather and poetry are symbiotic (at least from a poet's pov, though i am sure most would say poetry is reliant on the weather and not the other way around!)... i will let geoff page know that he's been quoted from... i actually wrote a book called _lightning tree_ which is full of lightning poems. ball lighting being a personal fave... best, jk p.s. strong winds and intense shower activity in york, western australia at the moment.... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 15:13:39 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning MPEG finally up on web... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Sel, My first thought was that this was most definately a reflection on the camera lens. I've had a few, the most noticable one for me was Nov 5 last year, you can see that it looks like there is a streamer off the car - but it's just a reflection: http://www.bsch.au.com/anthony/Nov5a.jpg The actual strike was very close (100m), it can be seen here: http://www.bsch.au.com/anthony/Nov5b.jpg AC Sel Kerans wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Finally had the time to review some video from July storms in South East > Queensland. Found some great lightning bits and managed to get the use of a > video capture card... > > I have a short mpeg up on the web, a 320x240 window so you can see it to > best effect. Look for 'The Lightning Man' - like a stick figure drawing in > lightning... about 800kb so it may be a slow download for some. > > http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/videos/lightning.mpg > > A still from the video is with another still shot of the same storm at: > > http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/photogallery10.htm > > I remember taking this stuff and thinking that one came close! This must > have been it, though I was too intent at squinting at the viewfinder at the > time to notice how menacing this was, apart from the noise! I had the > camera trained on lightning 3-4 kms away and got a little bit of a fright. > > Hope you like it -makes interesting viewing stepping through a few frames > at a time...2 separate strikes? Anyone have an opinion? > > Cheers > > Sel > Elimbah > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Sel Kerans > Coordinator \|/ &&&&& > Project Atmosphere Australia On-line -0- .--_|\ "/" > WWW: http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa /|\ / \ \ > Email: skerans at mail.cth.com.au \_.--\_/ > EQ: sel.kerans at qed.qld.gov.au v > > ph 07 3881 9623 fax 07 3881 9640 > > *** Now taking registrations from schools around the world *** > *** On-line activities scheduled for June, September 2001 *** > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Rosalina Champion" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: aussie-weather-digest V1 #1158 Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 16:08:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John and Jane, That poem was just great. I am studying Creative Writing and have written reems of poetry. Something about clouds and wild wind and rain is inspiring beyond explaination. I don't know much about the technical side of weather, so I mostly just lurk and watch. Brisbane has been very dry of late. The grass in the parks is brown and very uninspiring. Regards to all, Rosalina > nice to see some poetry on the list - that's actually why i am on it. i > am writing a series of weather poems. weather and poetry are symbiotic > (at least from a poet's pov, though i am sure most would say poetry is > reliant on the weather and not the other way around!)... > > i will let geoff page know that he's been quoted from... > > i actually wrote a book called _lightning tree_ which is full of > lightning poems. ball lighting being a personal fave... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: dencot1 at aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 06:09:53 EDT Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE thunder To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows AU sub 10504 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com No Bussie should buy the house next to mine in Bayswater !  :)

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You Vics should all move to Rutherglen with Bussie, he gets heaps of storms ! :)

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X-Authentication-Warning: baygate.cth.com.au: Host port22.mdts.cab.cth.com.au [216.252.223.86] claimed to be zenith X-Sender: skerans at mail.cth.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 21:00:06 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Sel Kerans Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning MPEG finally up on web... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I would say finally that I don't recall it being as bad as it looks - will go back on the video but am sure the thunder wasn't at the same instant. Soundtrack didn't come through too well - motor noise from the camera which I was resurrecting at the time - can't complain though - had it given to me if I could 'get it going and get some use of it'... Thanks Anthony an all for the input - looks like we have a case of a lot of reflection on our hands, but what great effect! I was just capturing distant flashes in the clouds - to have strikes come toward ground closer by was spectacular and I remember only hoping that it was within the shot taken by the viewfinder - as it turns out, just in... Bye for now, Sel At 15:13 29/09/01 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Sel, > >My first thought was that this was most definately a reflection on the >camera lens. I've had a few, the most noticable one for me was Nov 5 >last year, you can see that it looks like there is a streamer off the >car - but it's just a reflection: > >http://www.bsch.au.com/anthony/Nov5a.jpg > >The actual strike was very close (100m), it can be seen here: > >http://www.bsch.au.com/anthony/Nov5b.jpg > >AC > >Sel Kerans wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> Finally had the time to review some video from July storms in South East >> Queensland. Found some great lightning bits and managed to get the use of a >> video capture card... >> >> I have a short mpeg up on the web, a 320x240 window so you can see it to >> best effect. Look for 'The Lightning Man' - like a stick figure drawing in >> lightning... about 800kb so it may be a slow download for some. >> >> http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/videos/lightning.mpg >> >> A still from the video is with another still shot of the same storm at: >> >> http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/photogallery10.htm >> >> I remember taking this stuff and thinking that one came close! This must >> have been it, though I was too intent at squinting at the viewfinder at the >> time to notice how menacing this was, apart from the noise! I had the >> camera trained on lightning 3-4 kms away and got a little bit of a fright. >> >> Hope you like it -makes interesting viewing stepping through a few frames >> at a time...2 separate strikes? Anyone have an opinion? >> >> Cheers >> >> Sel >> Elimbah >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> Sel Kerans >> Coordinator \|/ &&&&& >> Project Atmosphere Australia On-line -0- .--_|\ "/" >> WWW: http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa /|\ / \ \ >> Email: skerans at mail.cth.com.au \_.--\_/ >> EQ: sel.kerans at qed.qld.gov.au v >> >> ph 07 3881 9623 fax 07 3881 9640 >> >> *** Now taking registrations from schools around the world *** >> *** On-line activities scheduled for June, September 2001 *** >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >-- >Anthony Cornelius >Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the >Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) >(07) 3390 4812 >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sel Kerans Coordinator \|/ &&&&& Project Atmosphere Australia On-line -0- .--_|\ "/" WWW: http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa /|\ / \ \ Email: skerans at mail.cth.com.au \_.--\_/ EQ: sel.kerans at qed.qld.gov.au v ph 07 3881 9623 fax 07 3881 9640 *** Now taking registrations from schools around the world *** *** On-line activities scheduled for June, September 2001 *** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 29 Sep 01 21:16:45 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Opportunity to see an aurora 25/26 September (fwd) Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello David! 27 Sep 01 08:41, you wrote to All: DF> Did anyone see it? I drove 200km south last night, trying to find DF> somewhere high and dark with a view to the south, but didn't see No, I didn't. Too much cloud and light pollution here. :-( I can vividly recall the aurora of 1989, which filled the sky with brilliant crimson. Tony, VK3JED .. Golfing versus Programming: Lawn time, no C. -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Opportunity to see an aurora 25/26 September (fwd) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 22:27:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I remember that one - it's the only one I've ever seen - a bunch of us were on our way back from Cootamundra & we saw it just south of Yass (34.51S) - an amazing curtain of red - at first we thought there was a huge bushfire just to the west over the ranges. Was that May or October? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- > > No, I didn't. Too much cloud and light pollution here. :-( I can vividly > recall the aurora of 1989, which filled the sky with brilliant crimson. > > Tony, VK3JED > > .. Golfing versus Programming: Lawn time, no C. > -- > |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 > |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au > | > | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p216-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.216] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 22:56:03 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Dry Line situation western SA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I am sue most of you would be watching western SA activity. It appears to me like a perfect dry line situation - certainly dramatic changes in dew points along the Nullabour. Wind shear would be excellent as well. Should be interesting to see if this system could come across to Victoria and SW NSW tomorrow morning. Moisture is the only hinderance. ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 02:31:56 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: aus-wx: Warm night in Adelaide X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id OAA07940 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Amazing temps in Adelaide I've noticed, at 3:50am CST in Adelaide City (Kent Town) it was 27.9C, it seems like its the middle of summer there, not September. Kent Town × 30 03:50 27.9 -4.1 12 N 31 17 43 23 1000.5 0.0 Mt Lofty × 30 03:50 24.7 -17.4 5 N 76 41 100 54 - - As you can see, the dewpoint at Mt Lofty was -17.4C, with a 100km/h gust at 3:50am CST. Jacob +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p79-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.140.79] claimed to be ihug.com.au Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 05:55:45 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Dry Line situation western SA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jimmy Deguara wrote: > Hi all, > > I am sue most of you would be watching western SA activity. It appears to > me like a perfect dry line situation - certainly dramatic changes in dew > points along the Nullabour. Wind shear would be excellent as well. Should > be interesting to see if this system could come across to Victoria and SW > NSW tomorrow morning. Moisture is the only hinderance. > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\092918zDivergencePresTend.gif" X-Authentication-Warning: zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 12:04:41 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Vic chasers heading out west Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Just informing y'all that I'll be heading out towards the Stawell area in western Vic. Jane has already left for the same area. If the rugby league GF starts getting boring, then feel free to update me on 0408 vortex Here's hoping for some action this arvo. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic chasers heading out west Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 12:46:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2001 02:47:42.0152 (UTC) FILETIME=[467C4C80:01C1495A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert. The west of the state looks a little better and will improve later today. In a line from Mildura to Cape Otway (at 1200hrs),east of this line is a belt of dry warm air with surface gusts up to 70kph. West of this 'Line' winds decline to less than 40kph,this line appears to be a weak shear zone/trough. West of the line humidity is higher, most of the instability is further west and near to the cold front.Colder upper air should precede this cold front as it moves into western Vic later today,however there is strong dry air incursion happening through Vic and this may be a problem for the development of widespread thunderstorms ,although some embedded mid level activity should be around,another interesting factor is the deep low in the Aus Bight which at the moment is moving in more easterly direction rather than a south east bearing, although this may change later today.regards Clyve H. From: weather at world.std.com> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 12:04 PM Subject: aus-wx: Vic chasers heading out west > > Hi all > > Just informing y'all that I'll be heading out towards the Stawell area in > western Vic. Jane has already left for the same area. If the rugby > league GF starts getting boring, then feel free to update me on > > 0408 vortex > > Here's hoping for some action this arvo. > > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > School of Mathematical Sciences > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:25:55 +1000 From: Rod Aikman Subject: aus-wx: Thunder at last!! To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 2.8.2.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A drier and much warmer than average September has come to a conclusion with a bang. Two storms around 1800 brought 10 mm at the end of a day which saw my maximum temperature reach 30.3 degrees; this being the warmest September day in Bendigo since Sep 30, 1961. Regards Rod Aikman 42 Panton St. Golden Square Bendigo, Vic. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Current stuff Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:34:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A very distant flash to the SW about an hour ago and haven't seen anything since. The wind has picked up a lot in the last hour or so, but still a NE, as it has been all day. DP was over 16.3 at 4.45pm but nothing happening. Basically a fine night to have an evening :-) Insert attempted humour here. What do you call three days of really foul weather followed by brilliant sunshine? Queen's Birthday weekend :-) Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 11:43:13 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Boskell Subject: aus-wx: Devonport Thunderstorm 8pm To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day All, Decent thunderstorm(s) moved thru NW Tassie this evening starting at around 7:50pm in Devonport. Main event lasted about 40 mins. Looking at the lightning tracker, this storm was part of a rather large line of storms reaching from NT thru SA, Qld, NSW, VIC and into Tas! Rather impressive. Took some video - no film in SLR camera, blast! There is still some thunder around now (8:45pm) so all may not be over.... Regards, Andrew. ===== Andrew Boskell "Some people are weather wise, others are otherwise!" ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free at yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free at yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Opportunity to see an aurora 25/26 September (fwd) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:39:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Bussie and his 8 year old brother standing on Altona beach (Melb) looking out to the southern sky. He has never forgotten it and neither have I ! It had changes of green also. Magnificent. I would love to see another one. From Melb and looking south on this evening it was a brilliant sight and so breath taking with nothing in the southern sky (lights) to block the view. Excellent! Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 10:27 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Opportunity to see an aurora 25/26 September (fwd) > I remember that one - it's the only one I've ever seen - a bunch of us > were on our way back from Cootamundra & we saw it just south of Yass > (34.51S) - an amazing curtain of red - at first we thought there was a > huge bushfire just to the west over the ranges. Was that May or > October? > > Jane > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > No, I didn't. Too much cloud and light pollution here. :-( I can > vividly > > recall the aurora of 1989, which filled the sky with brilliant > crimson. > > > > Tony, VK3JED > > > > .. 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Then I'd have to leave "mother nature's" country again and come back. I get a lot of Spring/summer storms just to the north of here (about 4 miles) which seem to follow the Murray river or just to the south which chase the ranges. What makes it through the middle is pretty good stuff!!
Country born and bred. Wont be back :-)
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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No Bussie should buy the house next to mine in Bayswater !  :)

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You Vics should all move to Rutherglen with Bussie, he gets heaps of storms ! :)

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> Thunderstorm passing over currently just north of town with only the edge of
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From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 30 Sep 01 20:55:02 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Opportunity to see an aurora 25/26 September (fwd) Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Jane! 29 Sep 01 22:27, you wrote to All: JO> I remember that one - it's the only one I've ever seen - a bunch of us JO> were on our way back from Cootamundra & we saw it just south of Yass JO> (34.51S) - an amazing curtain of red - at first we thought there was a JO> huge bushfire just to the west over the ranges. Was that May or JO> October? Hmm, I'm not sure exactly when it was. NASA literature refers to the Great Storm of March 1989, but I would have only just had my licence then... Seems a little early. Tony, VK3JED .. .. -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunder at last!! Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 21:33:09 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2001 11:34:21.0351 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9136B70:01C149A3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. An impressive group of high based storms moved over the Geelong area between 1730hrs and 1830hrs,lots of lightning but unfortunately small amounts of rain. However these fast movers were generating some rather good micro bursts and I was fortunate to be videoing at 1755hrs when one of these downbursts hit Leopold, two gusts clouted my home the first was very short lived and reached 95kph,forcing me to go to the back yard for shelter,the second gust was a ripper and tested my weather wizard to show 122kph ....yippee....regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rod Aikman To: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 8:25 PM Subject: aus-wx: Thunder at last!! > A drier and much warmer than average September has come to a > conclusion with a bang. Two storms around 1800 brought 10 mm > at the end of a day which saw my maximum temperature reach > 30.3 degrees; this being the warmest September day in Bendigo > since Sep 30, 1961. > Regards > Rod Aikman > 42 Panton St. > Golden Square > Bendigo, Vic. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: NE seabreeze quite humid and orographic stratus Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 22:06:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The NE wind got quite strong today ( 20 - 25knots ). Later in the afternoon it helped the formation of a blanket of orographic stratus along the Illawarra escarpment from Robertson to about Barren grounds ( SW part of range ). The top of Macquarie pass was fogbound, this is a strange but not uncommon weather event in very humid NE winds. People enjoying 25C sunshine at the beach only 10 km east, and just west of the escarpment even warmer with brilliant sunshine. A couple of times in the past this has occurred I have wondered whether this could be the only cloud in NSW, not today of course. Michael Thompson http://ozthunder.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunder at last!! Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 21:49:50 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2001 11:50:58.0985 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BB64990:01C149A6] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Clyve and all, 122km/h is awesome - i'm sure you were in 7th heaven when that hit! I did a quick chase out to Melton and Craigeburn and almost got hit by lightning several times while videoing. One particularly close episode was at the turnoff to Mt Ridley just N of Craigeburn. I was in the car videoing lightning and i thought i'd get out for a second to grab a shot of the top of the hill and FLASH...."$&#$ that was close"...CRRRRRAAACCKKKKBBBBOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM. It was the loudest thunder i'd heard in a very very long time. Turns out it hit the top of the hill (just 350m away) and to think that 2 minutes earlier I was considering heading up there....hehe. Got plenty of lightning on video tonight. This great line of storms on formed on the trough. Our sounding showed a nice cap at about 720mb which surpressed convection until maximum heating at about 4pm when the temps across west central and north central Victoria pushed into the high 20's/low 30's and the convergence along the pre-frontal trough saw moisture rocket up with DP's going from 6-7C this morning up to 15-16C this afternoon. This combination kicked off these awesome storms which roared along at 100+km/h due to the 50-60knt LLJ and 60-70knt MLJ which were ripping across Victoria at the time. I must say we are quite lucky here in Victoria today as had we had slightly more NE'ly surface flow we could've potentially been looking at quite a serisous severe weather threat. Anyway - enough from me. I'm currently enjoying the muggy aftermath from the storms with some light to moderate rain between the trough and the front (slight chance of thunderies tonight but not overly optimistic). Regards, Andrew McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: clyve herbert To: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 9:33 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunder at last!! > Hi all. > An impressive group of high based storms moved over the Geelong area between > 1730hrs and 1830hrs,lots of lightning but unfortunately small amounts of > rain. However these fast movers were generating some rather good micro > bursts and I was fortunate to be videoing at 1755hrs when one of these > downbursts hit Leopold, two gusts clouted my home the first was very short > lived and reached 95kph,forcing me to go to the back yard for shelter,the > second gust was a ripper and tested my weather wizard to show 122kph > ....yippee....regards Clyve H. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rod Aikman > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 8:25 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Thunder at last!! > > > > A drier and much warmer than average September has come to a > > conclusion with a bang. Two storms around 1800 brought 10 mm > > at the end of a day which saw my maximum temperature reach > > 30.3 degrees; this being the warmest September day in Bendigo > > since Sep 30, 1961. > > Regards > > Rod Aikman > > 42 Panton St. > > Golden Square > > Bendigo, Vic. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunder at last!! Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 22:11:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, A great start to the season for a chaser who hasn't heard thunder since April! & good practice for TDU2K+1 (660kms) I had the area around Halls Gap targetted for today - went out early & up to One Tree Hill at Ararat, where the breathtaking view had me nailed for the best part of 4 hours, morning tea, 2 cups of tea and lunch - just couldn't drag myself away from an almost 360degree view - a 'must see' if you haven't been there! Robert Goler arrived about 3 hours after me & when I got myself moving in the direction of Halls Gap (there were some 'darker areas' becoming apparent in that direction in amongst the mid level ice cloud), he decided to go towards Hamilton. Just west of Halls Gap, I saw my first cg & from then on it just went 'ballistic' (scientific term - please consult your dictionary for accurate translation). The cell that I was parked under (literally) was flying....I decided to head west to Dunkeld & then back around & try to intersect this cell as it headed SE. Bad move.....by being in the wrong place at the wrong time, I rearranged my brand new (replaced last weekend) car aerial with a nudge from a fully grown (6' wing span) wedge tailed eagle that came out of the undergrowth 2' off the ground, rolled my aerial backwards & wandered off back into the bush again.....and then 100m later had to hit the brakes to avoid 2 kangaroos........heart back out of mouth & 100m further on I managed to miss a magpie by a feather......... From Dunkeld back to Ballarat I sat under lightning active cells all the way & could see more lightning both to the NW & the SE. And east of Ballarat, near Myrniong, just off the Western Freeway, I saw 2 of the closest cgs I've ever seen.......& the evening finished off with the most amazing cg (that I don't have on video) at the bottom of the hill with a panoramic view of Melbourne in the background. All in all a wonderful way of spending a Sunday......and last heard, Robert's still out there somewhere. Many thanks to Macca, Anthony & Paul for their updates through the day!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyve herbert" To: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 9:33 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunder at last!! > Hi all. > An impressive group of high based storms moved over the Geelong area between > 1730hrs and 1830hrs,lots of lightning but unfortunately small amounts of > rain. However these fast movers were generating some rather good micro > bursts and I was fortunate to be videoing at 1755hrs when one of these > downbursts hit Leopold, two gusts clouted my home the first was very short > lived and reached 95kph,forcing me to go to the back yard for shelter,the > second gust was a ripper and tested my weather wizard to show 122kph > ....yippee....regards Clyve H. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rod Aikman > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 8:25 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Thunder at last!! > > > > A drier and much warmer than average September has come to a > > conclusion with a bang. Two storms around 1800 brought 10 mm > > at the end of a day which saw my maximum temperature reach > > 30.3 degrees; this being the warmest September day in Bendigo > > since Sep 30, 1961. > > Regards > > Rod Aikman > > 42 Panton St. > > Golden Square > > Bendigo, Vic. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 30 Sep 01 20:53:34 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chasing: Internet access Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Anthony! 29 Sep 01 01:04, you wrote to All: AC> As a general rule, you'll get internet access at: AC> AC> - Libraries, all libraries have internet access but the conditions are AC> highly variable (ie, sometimes a cost, sometimes it's free, sometimes AC> you need to book, other times it's first in first serve etc) AC> - Internet cafe's, but they've taken a downturn in popularity now, so AC> they're quite scarce so... AC> - Computer shops in towns tend to have internet access - just go for a AC> drive around the town centre and you'll see one or two computer shops AC> (depending on the size), and most of the times they have internet AC> access - but this is never free. If you're in the suburbs, Dick Smith Power House has free cable Internet access for surfing. Might be one port of call early in a chase, or if it's a "home game". :-) Tony, VK3JED .. I came real close to seeing Elvis, but my shovel broke. -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------