From: Harald Richter <hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov>
Subject: aus-wx: OUTLOOK
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Hi folks,

AUS is caught in a slowly evolving pattern with an upper-level
low currently centred over Birdsville drifing NE.  
AVN keeps moving the low NE and has it W of Winton (QLD)
by 06Z/25.  

An additional upper-level low of tropical persuasion (TUTT?)
has moved inland across Broome (WA).

WC QLD should have the best ground-mid level lapse rates 
by late this afternoon due to the proximity of
the cold-core upper-level low as per AVN 12Z run.
The strongest flow at 200 hPa is progged over W QLD recurving 
sharply into a jet max moving offshore between Townsville 
and Rockhampton.  Below (500 hPa) only moderate flow
is progged over N QLD/ N NT (baroclinic tropical flow??).

The upper low is forecast to weaken with no significant 
flow left by tomorrow and beyond.  The AVN believes in a 
strong trough moving ashore in WA by Monday, which will in all likelihood  
be associated with a new (and hopefully more
predictable) pattern over NSW/QLD by mid-week.
 
The boundary layer shows a broad moist intrusion along 
a line from W of Thargomindah N into the Gulf.  This intrusion
is roughly co-located with the surface trough which might 
couple with the upper-level support provided by the UL low.

I expect some convection to fire ahead of the UL low within 
the moist axis, primarily up N in the Gulf country.  A tricky 
question is how far south the convection will initiate.
The best possible scenario I can mentally justify would see
a broken line of convection all the way S into SW QLD.

With ENE surface flow there's a good chance of convection along the 
coastal ranges as well,  with little or no convection S of Bundaberg. 

I would not expect much in the way of severe convection today.
<theory> If anywhere I would favour NW QLD for stronger storms. </theory>.

Looks like TD2K is going to get some rest.

Cheers,  Harald


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Hi all,

Jimmy's crew are at Tambo which is north of Charleville in central QLD. I 
have just updated them with all the parameters and they will head further N 
to near the upper low Harald mentioned. Storms are almost a certainty but 
whether they become severe remains to be seen.

Anthony's crew were at Goondiwindi on the NSW/QLD border and heading S to 
meet up with the VICs, possibly in the Hunter.

Michael

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Subject: aus-wx: Hot Humid Day
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Hey there all.

Very warm & humid here today.

Currently in Darwin it is 33c with a DP of 26.
At Cape Fourcroy (North West of Darwin) it is 34c with a DP of 32!!!!!n Now
thats very sticky!!

Action starting to develop all round now - just a period of
waiting.............

Paul in Darwin

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Subject: aus-wx: Attn: TDU2K - Model Results for Longreach
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Simulation Results for Longreach for next 3 days. Sorry the columns are a
little bit out of alignment. This is with neutral advection(what is
advection), and default upper level data. If the TDU2K people want a
different forcast I have heaps of other variables that can be outputed.
Disclaimer: I am in no way responsible if this data is wrong. If you chase
based on this you do so at your own risk of missing out on storms.

David


DATE  TIME   TEMP WIND RH  1T 85TC  SP  LCP   LI  THKNS WEATHER
25 Nov 13:15     27.0  17  62  23  17  978  874  +3.0  5755 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 13:45     27.4  15  60  23  17  978  867  +2.2  5755 PROB. DRZL
25 Nov 14:15     27.8  16  58  23  17  978  860  +2.7  5755 P.CLOUDY..
25 Nov 14:45     28.2  17  56  23  17  977  852  +3.0  5755 SUNNY.....
25 Nov 15:15     28.5  17  54  23  17  977  844  +3.3  5755 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 15:45     28.6  16  53  23  17  978  841  +3.5  5755 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 16:15     28.6  16  53  23  17  978  840  +3.7  5755 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 16:45     28.5  16  52  23  17  978  839  +3.8  5755 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 17:15     28.3  16  53  23  17  978  841  +3.9  5754 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 17:45     28.0  15  54  23  17  978  845  +4.1  5754 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 18:15     27.6  15  55  22  17  979  851  +4.2  5753 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 18:45     27.0  14  58  22  17  979  860  +4.2  5751 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 19:15     26.4  14  61  22  17  979  870  +4.3  5750 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 19:45     25.8  13  63  22  17  979  879  +4.3  5749 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 20:15     25.4  13  66  21  17  979  887  +4.2  5748 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 20:45     24.9  13  68  21  17  979  895  +4.2  5746 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 21:15     24.5  13  71  21  17  979  902  +4.1  5745 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 21:45     24.2  13  73  21  17  979  909  +4.0  5744 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 22:15     23.9  13  75  21  17  979  916  +3.9  5743 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 22:45     23.6  13  77  21  17  979  922  +3.8  5743 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 23:15     23.3  13  79  20  17  978  927  +3.8  5742 CLEAR.....
25 Nov 23:45     23.1  13  81  20  17  978  932  +3.7  5741 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  0:15     22.9  13  83  20  17  978  935  +3.7  5741 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  0:45     22.7  13  84  20  17  978  938  +3.7  5740 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  1:15     22.5  13  85  20  17  978  941  +3.8  5740 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  1:45     22.3  13  86  20  17  978  943  +3.8  5739 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  2:15     22.1  13  86  20  17  978  945  +3.8  5739 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  2:45     21.9  13  87  20  17  978  947  +3.9  5738 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  3:15     21.8  13  88  20  17  978  948  +4.0  5738 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  3:45     21.6  13  88  20  17  978  949  +4.0  5738 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  4:15     21.5  13  89  20  17  978  950  +4.1  5737 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  4:45     21.3  13  89  20  17  978  951  +4.2  5737 LIGHT DEW.
26 Nov  5:15     21.2  13  89  19  17  978  952  +4.3  5737 LIGHT DEW.
26 Nov  5:45     21.0  13  90  19  17  978  953  +4.4  5736 LIGHT DEW.
26 Nov  6:15     21.2  13  89  19  17  978  951  +4.4  5737 LIGHT DEW.
26 Nov  6:45     21.5  13  87  20  17  978  948  +4.4  5737 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  7:15     22.0  14  85  20  17  979  943  +4.3  5738 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  7:45     22.5  14  83  20  17  979  936  +4.2  5739 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  8:15     23.2  15  79  20  17  979  928  +4.1  5740 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  8:45     23.9  15  76  20  17  980  919  +3.9  5742 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  9:15     24.7  15  73  21  17  980  909  +3.7  5743 CLEAR.....
26 Nov  9:45     25.5  16  69  21  17  980  898  +3.6  5745 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 10:15     26.4  16  64  21  17  980  882  +3.7  5747 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 10:45     27.2  16  60  22  17  980  867  +3.9  5749 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 11:15     28.0  16  56  22  17  980  853  +3.9  5751 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 11:45     28.4  17  53  22  17  979  844  +4.1  5753 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 12:15     28.6  17  51  22  17  979  837  +4.3  5755 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 12:45     28.7  17  50  23  17  979  830  +4.4  5757 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 13:15     28.9  17  49  23  17  978  825  +4.6  5760 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 13:45     29.2  17  47  24  18  978  818  +4.7  5769 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 14:15     29.6  17  45  24  18  978  811  +4.7  5770 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 14:45     29.7  17  45  24  18  978  807  +4.8  5772 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 15:15     29.8  17  44  24  18  977  804  +4.9  5773 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 15:45     29.9  17  43  24  18  978  802  +4.9  5774 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 16:15     29.9  16  43  24  18  978  801  +5.0  5774 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 16:45     29.9  16  43  24  18  978  801  +5.0  5774 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 17:15     29.8  16  44  24  18  978  803  +5.1  5774 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 17:45     29.5  15  44  24  18  978  808  +5.2  5774 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 18:15     29.0  15  46  24  18  979  815  +5.2  5773 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 18:45     28.4  14  48  24  18  979  824  +5.3  5772 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 19:15     27.7  14  51  24  18  979  834  +5.4  5771 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 19:45     27.1  13  53  24  18  979  843  +5.4  5770 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 20:15     26.6  13  55  23  18  979  852  +5.4  5768 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 20:45     26.1  13  58  23  18  979  860  +5.3  5767 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 21:15     25.7  13  60  23  18  979  868  +5.3  5766 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 21:45     25.3  13  62  23  18  979  875  +5.2  5765 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 22:15     24.9  13  64  22  18  979  882  +5.2  5764 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 22:45     24.6  13  66  22  18  979  888  +5.1  5763 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 23:15     24.3  13  68  22  18  979  895  +5.1  5762 CLEAR.....
26 Nov 23:45     23.9  13  70  22  18  979  900  +5.0  5762 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  0:15     23.7  13  72  22  18  978  906  +5.0  5761 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  0:45     23.4  13  73  22  18  978  910  +5.0  5760 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  1:15     23.1  13  75  22  18  978  915  +5.0  5759 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  1:45     22.8  12  76  22  18  978  919  +5.1  5759 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  2:15     22.5  12  78  21  18  978  922  +5.1  5758 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  2:45     22.3  12  79  21  18  978  925  +5.1  5758 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  3:15     22.0  12  80  21  18  978  928  +5.1  5757 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  3:45     21.8  12  82  21  18  978  930  +5.2  5757 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  4:15     21.6  12  83  21  18  978  933  +5.3  5756 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  4:45     21.4  12  83  21  18  978  935  +5.3  5756 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  5:15     21.2  12  84  21  18  978  936  +5.4  5755 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  5:45     21.0  13  85  21  18  978  938  +5.5  5755 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  6:15     21.4  13  83  21  18  978  934  +5.4  5755 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  6:45     22.0  13  80  21  18  978  928  +5.3  5756 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  7:15     22.7  14  77  21  18  979  920  +5.2  5757 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  7:45     23.4  14  74  21  18  979  911  +5.1  5758 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  8:15     24.2  15  70  22  18  979  902  +4.9  5760 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  8:45     25.0  15  67  22  18  980  892  +4.8  5761 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  9:15     25.8  15  64  22  18  980  883  +4.6  5763 CLEAR.....
27 Nov  9:45     26.6  16  61  23  18  980  872  +4.4  5765 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 10:15     27.4  16  57  23  18  980  857  +4.5  5767 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 10:45     28.3  16  53  23  18  980  842  +4.6  5769 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 11:15     29.1  16  49  24  18  980  829  +4.6  5771 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 11:45     29.8  17  46  24  18  980  816  +4.6  5773 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 12:15     30.1  17  45  24  18  979  809  +4.7  5775 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 12:45     30.3  17  43  25  18  979  803  +4.7  5777 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 13:15     30.5  17  42  25  19  978  798  +4.8  5780 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 13:45     30.6  17  41  25  19  978  793  +4.9  5782 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 14:15     30.8  17  40  26  19  978  789  +5.0  5791 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 14:45     31.3  17  39  26  19  978  781  +4.9  5793 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 15:15     31.5  17  38  26  19  978  779  +5.0  5794 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 15:45     31.6  17  38  26  19  978  777  +5.0  5795 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 16:15     31.6  16  38  26  19  978  776  +5.0  5796 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 16:45     31.6  16  38  26  19  978  777  +5.1  5796 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 17:15     31.4  16  38  26  19  978  779  +5.1  5796 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 17:45     31.0  15  39  26  19  979  784  +5.2  5795 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 18:15     30.4  15  41  26  19  979  792  +5.3  5794 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 18:45     29.8  14  43  26  19  979  801  +5.4  5793 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 19:15     29.1  14  45  26  19  979  811  +5.5  5791 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 19:45     28.5  14  47  25  19  979  820  +5.5  5789 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 20:15     27.9  13  49  25  19  979  829  +5.6  5787 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 20:45     27.4  13  52  25  19  979  837  +5.6  5785 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 21:15     26.9  13  54  25  19  979  845  +5.6  5784 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 21:45     26.5  13  56  24  19  979  852  +5.5  5783 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 22:15     26.1  13  58  24  19  979  859  +5.5  5781 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 22:45     25.7  13  59  24  19  979  866  +5.5  5781 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 23:15     25.3  13  61  24  19  979  872  +5.4  5780 CLEAR.....
27 Nov 23:45     25.0  13  63  24  19  979  878  +5.4  5779 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  0:15     24.6  13  65  24  19  979  884  +5.4  5779 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  0:45     24.3  13  67  23  19  979  888  +5.5  5778 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  1:15     23.9  12  68  23  19  979  893  +5.5  5777 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  1:45     23.6  12  70  23  19  978  897  +5.5  5776 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  2:15     23.3  12  71  23  19  978  901  +5.5  5776 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  2:45     23.0  12  73  23  19  978  905  +5.6  5775 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  3:15     22.7  12  74  23  19  978  908  +5.6  5774 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  3:45     22.5  12  75  23  19  978  912  +5.6  5774 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  4:15     22.2  12  77  23  19  978  915  +5.7  5773 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  4:45     22.0  12  78  23  19  978  917  +5.7  5772 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  5:15     21.7  12  79  22  19  978  920  +5.8  5772 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  5:45     21.6  13  80  22  19  978  922  +5.9  5771 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  6:15     22.1  13  77  22  19  978  917  +5.8  5772 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  6:45     22.9  14  74  23  19  978  908  +5.7  5773 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  7:15     23.7  14  70  23  19  979  899  +5.6  5774 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  7:45     24.5  14  67  23  19  979  891  +5.4  5775 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  8:15     25.2  15  64  23  19  980  882  +5.3  5777 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  8:45     25.9  15  61  24  19  980  873  +5.2  5778 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  9:15     26.7  15  58  24  19  980  863  +5.0  5780 CLEAR.....
28 Nov  9:45     27.6  16  55  24  19  980  853  +4.8  5782 CLEAR.....
28 Nov 10:15     28.4  16  52  25  19  980  838  +4.8  5784 CLEAR.....
28 Nov 10:45     29.3  16  48  25  19  980  824  +4.8  5786 CLEAR.....
28 Nov 11:15     30.1  16  45  25  19  980  810  +4.8  5788 CLEAR.....
28 Nov 11:45     30.9  17  42  26  19  980  798  +4.8  5791 CLEAR.....
28 Nov 12:15     31.5  17  40  26  19  979  788  +4.8  5794 CLEAR.....
28 Nov 12:45     31.7  17  39  26  20  979  782  +4.8  5796 CLEAR.....
28 Nov 13:15     31.9  17  38  27  20  978  777  +4.9  5799 CLEAR.....

Summary:
DATE   MIN  MAX  MIN AT  MAX AT  DEW PT  %V.S.T.  WIND  SUNRISE

SUNSET ---------------------------------------------------------------------
----
25 Nov*   23   29 24:00   15:38    18 20  46  91  13  17  5:29   18:53
26 Nov    21   30  5:47   16:31    16 20  89  89  13  17  5:29   18:54
27 Nov    21   32  5:47   16:19    15 19  89  90  12  17  5:29   18:55
28 Nov*   21   32  5:46   13:15    16 18  90  91  12  17  5:29   18:55
* incomplete data

Supplemental data: (means for temp, dew pt, %rh, w.spd, %sc, and sn.dep)

DATE    TEMP DEW PT  %RH  W.SPD RS.WS RS.WD  %SC  %SUN  %PCH PTOT
SN.DEP ---------------------------------------------------------------------
----
25 Nov*   26.4   18.5   63  14.4  14.4  100     8   88    2   0.00   0.0
26 Nov    25.5   18.1   66  14.3  14.3  100     4   96    1   0.00   0.0
27 Nov    26.5   17.3   59  14.3  14.3  100     3   97    1   0.00   0.0
28 Nov*   25.4   17.5   64  14.1  14.1  100     2   98    0   0.00   0.0
* incomplete data

Nighttime lows and daytime highs:
25 Nov 26 Nov 27 Nov 28 Nov
|M  29|21  30|21  32|21  32|

Totals ( 2 complete days ) :
AV MIN  AV MAX  AV DP  AV WS  RES WS  RES WD  AV SC %SUN  AV PR  AV SD
21.0        30.9         17.7      14.3     14.3  100       3    97  0.00
0.0

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 00:04:40 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" <lrlemon at compuserve.com>
Subject: aus-wx: Hot Humid Day
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Message text written by Paul in Darwin

> At Cape Fourcroy (North West of Darwin) it is 34c with a DP of 32!!!!!n
Now
> thats very sticky!!

Paul, please check that DP again.....32 is nearly impossible!

Les

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From: "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Hot Humid Day
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:57:14 +0930
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Hi les,
I did check with the BOM Les - as I was a little sus.

They say its legit.

Hoewever Groote Eylandts 37.6C with a DP of 37.1C is a little sus.

Paul.

Cape Fourcroy & the Islands always have decent temp/dp rates! Prob to due to
location.

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> At Cape Fourcroy (North West of Darwin) it is 34c with a DP of 32!!!!!n
Now
> thats very sticky!!

Paul, please check that DP again.....32 is nearly impossible!

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The dewpoint at Cape Fourcroy has been suspect for some time (IMO anyway).
It seems to over estimate by about 4 degrees.
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> Message text written by Paul in Darwin
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>> At Cape Fourcroy (North West of Darwin) it is 34c with a DP of 32!!!!!n
> Now
>> thats very sticky!!
>
> Paul, please check that DP again.....32 is nearly impossible!
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> Les
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As a postscript to Leslie's post; one of our meteorologists worked in the 
Arabian gulf for some time and he reports that dew points in the mid
thirties combined with temperatures in the mid forties were not uncommon. He
also recalls the sea temperature at 1 metre depth being 38 degrees at one
time. That all adds up to a extremely unpleasant climate.
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> Message text written by Paul in Darwin
>
>> At Cape Fourcroy (North West of Darwin) it is 34c with a DP of 32!!!!!n
> Now
>> thats very sticky!!
>
> Paul, please check that DP again.....32 is nearly impossible!
>
> Les
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Everyone,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you thought Cape Fourcroy's DP was bad have a 
look at Groote Eylandt.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At 2:30pm&nbsp;local time it was reporting a DP of 
37.2 and temperature of 37.5</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now thats one hell of a sauna there 
hehehe.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I had my suspicions about these DP's but knowing 
how damn humid it can get in the NT anythings possible.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>By the way does anyone know what the world record 
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Paul:

A  DP of 37.1 is about 98 F.  That is simply impossible.  If I am not
mistaken the water vapor pressure would rival the air pressure.

Les

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Mark:

As I recall the Persian Gulf area has the highest DPs in the world.  I
believed that they were around 28 to 29 C.

> As a postscript to Leslie's post; one of our meteorologists worked in the

> Arabian gulf for some time and he reports that dew points in the mid
> thirties combined with temperatures in the mid forties were not uncommon.
He
> also recalls the sea temperature at 1 metre depth being 38 degrees at one
> time. That all adds up to a extremely unpleasant climate.

Les
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Not disagreeing with you their Les.
It does get humid here.........but that would be a record if it were right.
I am going to email the BOM on Monday
There whole AWS network seems a little stuffed atm - most have not reported
in for days/weeks/months
needs a site visit I imagine to check it out.
Paul

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Paul:

A  DP of 37.1 is about 98 F.  That is simply impossible.  If I am not
mistaken the water vapor pressure would rival the air pressure.

Les

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<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Harold:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Just 
want to say THANKYOU for your amazing analysis and forecasts. Can you come heere 
and teach the BOM a few things about:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>a. 
Forecasting</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>b. 
Commentary</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>c. How 
to at least look half interested in whats 
happening............</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It 
seems sad to me that someone based in USA is more able to and interested in 
forceasting Aussie severe weather then the paid geeks here in 
Australia.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>There 
now I shall stand down from&nbsp;my soapbox...............</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>And if 
you dont know what I mean have a look at some of the forceast / commentary the 
BOM issue. Shear and utter crap.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>eg NT: 
Scattered showers and storms North of Elliot. Fine elsewhere etc. - how bout 
telling us why, where and what to expect. </FONT></SPAN></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Harold,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would like to say that I agree 100% with what 
Paul has said. You do an absolutely terrific job in preparing your analysis and 
forecast. I have waited for someone with your depth of knowledge to come along 
for years. Your willingness to help is something I could only dream of from our 
Bureau. IMO the Bureau of Meteorology is a totally inadequate service and the 
amount of spelling mistakes and incomplete forecasts I have seen lately 
is&nbsp;a total disgrace. I mean dont they ever proof read or spell check 
anything. You just dont send out forecasts with temperatures and the like 
missing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway enough ranting from&nbsp;me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keep up the good work Harold.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Matthew Piper</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=ntstorms at bigpond.com href="mailto:ntstorms at bigpond.com">Paul 
  Mossman</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
  href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com">aussie-weather at world.std.com</A> 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 25, 2000 7:37 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: Harold: You r a 
  legend!</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Harold:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Just 
  want to say THANKYOU for your amazing analysis and forecasts. Can you come 
  heere and teach the BOM a few things about:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>a. 
  Forecasting</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>b. 
  Commentary</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>c. 
  How to at least look half interested in whats 
  happening............</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It 
  seems sad to me that someone based in USA is more able to and interested in 
  forceasting Aussie severe weather then the paid geeks here in 
  Australia.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>There now I shall stand down from&nbsp;my 
  soapbox...............</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>And 
  if you dont know what I mean have a look at some of the forceast / commentary 
  the BOM issue. Shear and utter crap.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=590033408-25112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>eg 
  NT: Scattered showers and storms North of Elliot. Fine elsewhere etc. - how 
  bout telling us why, where and what to expect. 
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