From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: aus-wx: Northern Territory - Supercell Territory! Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 01:03:53 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For your info, a list of NT severe thunderstorms reported to the Bureau during November so far: 2 Nov - 52 kt gust recorded at McCluer Island AWS (multicell/squall line); 4 Nov - strong winds/tree damage at Harts Range, 120 km northeast of Alice Springs (left-moving echo - possible supercell); 5 Nov - golf ball hail damaged cars at Ellery Creek, 80 km west of Alice Springs (left-moving echo - possible supercell); 5 Nov - 'mini-cyclone' felled large trees and damaged signs at Renner Springs, 150 km north of Tennant Creek; 7 Nov - 47 kt gust recorded at Territory Grape Farm AWS (TS downburst); 11 Nov - golf ball hail smashed windows and damaged cars and demountable buildings at Renner Springs, 150 km north of Tennant Creek; 11 Nov - sandstorm/strong winds with TS damaged trees at Ali Curung, 150 km south of Tennant Creek; 11 Nov - intense left-moving echo (possible supercell with hail) passed close to Aileron, 110 km north northeast of Alice Springs - dumped hail on Stuart Highway; 12 Nov - duststorm/gale force winds with TS threw around garden furniture at Yuendumu, 300 km northwest of Alice Springs; 12 Nov - intense splitting echoes on Giles radar (possible supercells with hail); 13 Nov - large hail (2 inches) and damaging winds at Suplejack Station (Tanami desert); 13 Nov - splitting echoes on Giles radar (possible supercells); 14 Nov - violent hailstorm at Rabbit Flat, gust to 66 kt recorded at AWS. Note that most of these events occurred in two convective outbreaks over the southern half of the NT (4-5 and 11-14 Nov) during which damaging winds and large hail were reported at several places. The behaviour of echoes observed with Alice Springs and Giles radar during these events would suggest that there were many other thunderstorms with the potential to produce damaging winds and hail. Hope the chasers get this sorta action. And BTW - Jason Rainforest email me so we can arrange a time to meet and we can show oyu NT hospitality. Paul in Darwin. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: chris.nitsopoulos at jcu.edu.au X-Authentication-Warning: brolga.jcu.edu.au: nobody set sender to jc124783 at jcu.edu.au using -f To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Monsson trough, imminent Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 02:25:41 +1000 (AEST) User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 203.21.231.162 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All Well maybe a low didn't develop as forecast in the Coral Sea, but I tell you what, the models definately got it 100% right in their predictions of increased convection over both the Coral Sea(especially) and the Indian Ocean (between 80-100E). I believe we will now begin to see a trough line form over the oceans just to the North of Australia. This looks to almost definately be the generation of the monsoonal trough to the North of Australia in the immediate future. (I have been wrong before though) Im guessing, but once it develops just to the North of Oz, it should only take a week or two, to settle itself over the Northern areas of Queensland and Northern Territory. Things are really hotting up Convection wise in the Coral Sea. (see for yourselves at www.weatherzone.com.au) CHEERS: Chris Nitsopoulos +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Harald Richter Subject: aus-wx: REPORT(s) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Australian Severe Weather Association) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:07:02 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dearest list, As far as NSW is concerned, the NW quadrant of the state enjoyed some sizebale storms yesterday (Thursday). Most of the storms initiated in a box bounded by the Broken Hill-Cobar-Bourke lines and the NSW state borders. Initiation focused on the region within and W of the moist axis extending down from QLD. The cyclonic turning of the surface wind between Cobar and Broken Hill seemed to have been a hint indeed (as a proxy for likely surface lift). Last night's Cobar sounding shows weak shear (~ 20 kts) keeping the storms in the region below severe levels, I suppose. The morning (23Z) sounding had significant CAPE, though. Even further E the shear wasn't great with 25 knots at 500 hPa. The AVN was a tad too optimistic here. ------------- TDU2K PEOPLE: ------------- (1) Are you going to post (daily) chase summaries to the list?? These would be valuable for forecast verifications, among other things. (2) Are you going to post your (daily) consensus forecast to the list?? I think it would be nice to have a spread of opinions rather than just my own handwaving deliberations. Back to work, Harald -- ------------------------------------------- Harald Richter NOAA/National Severe Storms Laboratory 1313 Halley Circle Norman, OK 73069, U.S.A. ph.: (405) 366-0430 fax: (405) 579-0808 email: hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov web: http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/~hrichter ------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Pearce" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: REPORT(s) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:12:37 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Harald and all, Thanks so much for all the time and effort you put into looking at forecasts and conditions down here...it really helps and is beneficial, for all those wanting to learn some of the mechanisms behind the atmosphere. On the subject of TD2K, I don't *think* any of the chasers will have access(regular) to this list while they are away for the 3 weeks, although there could possible be sporadic updates. However, there are a number of people in various states, myself included, who will be updating and keeping in general contact with the different groups. I definitely plan to report back as frequently as I can to the list what is being seen in terms of the weather by at least the Anthony Cornelius, Matt Smith, Andrew McDonald, Greg Browning group, which I will be communicating with. To get the ball rolling, last night they were at Dubbo, in rain, and I would assume, although I haven't spoken to them this morning, that they will be heading generally NW today to get out of the main cloud band. Updates to follow over the next 3 weeks Matt Pearce +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Good Luck TD2K People! Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:52:10 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Phil Bagust wrote: Good luck to all on the chase, kick photographic butt, and whatever your LI's and CAPES are, send a little our way....please. Roll on 5pm today!!!!!! and then I'm gone........and as I'll be in fairly 'non-mobile friendly' areas for much of the time between tomorrow and when I get to Sydney on the 23rd November, I'd really appreciate SMS warnings of anything interesting in the far E of Victoria tomorrow and the NSW far south coast till Thursday next week. Oddly enough they seem to get through even when a call doesn't. By the time I get to Sydney I should have got my act together. If I have any free time, I'll contact some of the Sydneyites on Thursday or Friday & we might be able to organise a get-together before I pick up cousin Pete and go looking for the other TD2Kers on Saturday......... aaahhhh, I think I'm finally starting to s l o w d o w n from supercharged & totally crazy...................................... My contact number is 0411 455 100. A million (very hopeful) thanks in advance about the severe weather that I will experience in far south-eastern NSW between tomorrow and joining TD2K (not!!!!) BTW, please don't send emails with attachments to me until I get back......................because there'll be about 600 emails to go through when I get to a computer in a week anyway....... Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Lyle Pakula" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Eye of the storm Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:58:26 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Miguel, From what i ahve been told, in simple terms, is that there is still great contention in the community as to what the forcing is but it is generally taken that the convection *and* subsidance are both players. Ie one does not cause the other but are intwined. So, as Carl pointed out, strengths and positions of the different air masses some 30deg lat away can have a great effect on where the ITCZ will be located. But it should be noted that the N-S osciallation is of the ITCZ is dues to the seasons as these effect the air masses etc etc uru, Lyle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miguel de Salas" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 5:38 PM Subject: aus-wx: Eye of the storm > Hi there! > > Here for some more bagging of that dreadful ABC program... > > Did anyone notice how many times the narrator (as well as the fliers and > ads) of 'Eye of the Storm' said climactic when she meant climatic??? > > As far as I know climatic ---> climate > climactic ---> climax! > > I couldn't see any orgasms (climaxes) when the narrator mentioned about > these supposedly climactic conditions... :) > > > Another question: I have always understood that the N-S movement of the > monsoon, and the ITCZ had more to do with the change of seasons and the > earth's tilt respective to the sun that with updrafts in the desert and > cold air subsidence in the Himalayas... As far as I know there were > by-products of the monsoon, not the opposite. Anyone care to enlighten me? > > Miguel de Salas > mailto:mm_de at postoffice.utas.edu.au > > School of Plant Science, > University of Tasmania, > GPO Box 252-55, Hobart, > Tasmania, Australia, 7001. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.10.125.3] From: "Matt Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: REPORT(s) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:59:20 EST X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2000 22:59:20.0461 (UTC) FILETIME=[DAB16BD0:01C05020] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Its us !!! We are at Dubbo, in constant drizzle (flood rain for vics;) We are headed west to Cobar/Bourke area today, hoping for a clearing of some sort, its our only hope. Low level flow looks to be 15 knots or so and very very moist. Bourke obs are 21/20. Max of 27C 4cast. Thanks for the emails Harald, they are a good help!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's good to have someone else's opinion. JIMMY!!!! LI is -10 on sunday near THARGO!! LETS CHASE!!! From all 4 of us Cya's! >From: Harald Richter >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Australian Severe Weather Association) >Subject: aus-wx: REPORT(s) >Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:07:02 -0600 (CST) > > >Dearest list, > >As far as NSW is concerned, the NW quadrant of the state enjoyed >some sizebale storms yesterday (Thursday). Most of the storms >initiated in a box bounded by the Broken Hill-Cobar-Bourke >lines and the NSW state borders. Initiation focused on the region >within and W of the moist axis extending down from QLD. >The cyclonic turning of the surface wind between Cobar and Broken Hill >seemed to have been a hint indeed (as a proxy for likely surface >lift). > >Last night's Cobar sounding shows weak shear (~ 20 kts) keeping the >storms in the region below severe levels, I suppose. The morning (23Z) >sounding >had significant CAPE, though. Even further E the shear wasn't >great with 25 knots at 500 hPa. The AVN was a tad too optimistic here. > >------------- >TDU2K PEOPLE: >------------- >(1) Are you going to post (daily) chase summaries to the list?? > These would be valuable for forecast verifications, among other >things. >(2) Are you going to post your (daily) consensus forecast to the list?? > I think it would be nice to have a spread of opinions rather > than just my own handwaving deliberations. > >Back to work, > >Harald > >-- >------------------------------------------- >Harald Richter >NOAA/National Severe Storms Laboratory >1313 Halley Circle >Norman, OK 73069, U.S.A. >ph.: (405) 366-0430 >fax: (405) 579-0808 >email: hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov >web: http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/~hrichter >------------------------------------------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" To: "Wx Aus" Subject: aus-wx: Pissing down Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:03:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi List, If you haven't already noticed, the Central Coast (Qld) is copping a bucketing at the moment. Unofficial rainfall reports exceeding 400mm overnight south of Mackay. Local flooding widespread. In Proserpine only 35mm in last 24 hours, but very heavy since just after daylight. Plenty more to come looking at radar. No thunder or lightning though. One for Blair to comment on - could be some record 24 hour falls, although some cyclones may have dumped more. (By the way Blair, hope you enjoyed the recent conference - saw your name on the attendees list. One of our local cane farmers and fellow list member, Doug Lee, attended) Regards, Bill, Proserpine. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Harald Richter Subject: aus-wx: OUTLOOK TODAY To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Australian Severe Weather Association) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:03:44 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good morning Dubbo, I hope your night was restful, and that the 23Z soundings find their way into the electronic universe before your checkout time. Today I would look for good flow aloft, and decent lapse rates. The broad though over E AUS is still there (in case you haven't noticed). QLD is full of convection, but with NNW flow aloft and NE flow at the surface the shear is on the low side. SHEAR is really the essential issue in the current setup, followed by convectively polluted lapse rates. The PBL is just fine and juicy. In NNW flow aloft all the anvil debris is pushed SE across NSW decreasing insolation by a bit. Those sunny holes in the cloud cover might play some role today as they locally increase the buoyancy of surface parcels. Surface moisture axis has set up from E of Mildura to Cobar, then NNW. Surface dewpoints along that axis are generally not much below 20 C. It is again interesting to see SE flow at Broken Hill with NE flow at Cobar. A zonal dry slot associated with the departing low that used to inhabit NSW increases the chances for insolation just N of the VIC border. SW NSW well might be the sunniest part of the state for today. The synoptic-scale surface pressure gradient recommends to go NW away from the dangerously high pressure values along Jane's proposed route of travel to Sydney. This is also a recipe to stay away from the cooler coastal surface temperatures. In model-land we have a 06Z CAPE axis extending from NW QLD down into W NSW and NW VIC. AVN and Meso LAPS have decided to put a big CAPE bullseye over NW QLD (CAPE > 3500 J/kg) associated with a MesoLAPS surface low. A weak surface trough is progged to extend into NW NSW. The MesoLAPS model also breaks out precip all over NSW and QLD by 12Z tonight. The mid-level flow is the least exciting feature about today's setup, unless you can find a pocket of SE surface flow in an area of diabatically enhanced mid-level flow. I could envisage storms firing along a line from Mildura all the way up to the Gulf. This line should set up W of Cobar. The trick is to pick the storm that has the strongest local storm-relative flow (surface obs with SE flow?). Good Luck people, Harald -- ------------------------------------------- Harald Richter NOAA/National Severe Storms Laboratory 1313 Halley Circle Norman, OK 73069, U.S.A. ph.: (405) 366-0430 fax: (405) 579-0808 email: hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov web: http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/~hrichter ------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: REPORT(s) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:26:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Matt and crew Can you post your mobiles, I am stuck looking after the baby over the next week or so, therefore when she is asleep I can log on and give you some updates. Yesterday you were too far east, nearest thunderstorm in vicinity of Cobar, a couple also fired along the Murray River from Echuca to Swan Hill and another slow mover near Sale in the Gippsland. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Smith" To: Sent: Saturday, 18 November 2000 1:59 Subject: Re: aus-wx: REPORT(s) > > Its us !!! > > We are at Dubbo, in constant drizzle (flood rain for vics;) > > We are headed west to Cobar/Bourke area today, hoping for a clearing of some > sort, its our only hope. > > Low level flow looks to be 15 knots or so and very very moist. Bourke obs > are 21/20. Max of 27C 4cast. > > Thanks for the emails Harald, they are a good help!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > It's good to have someone else's opinion. > > JIMMY!!!! LI is -10 on sunday near THARGO!! LETS CHASE!!! > > From all 4 of us > Cya's! > > >From: Harald Richter > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Australian Severe Weather Association) > >Subject: aus-wx: REPORT(s) > >Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:07:02 -0600 (CST) > > > > > >Dearest list, > > > >As far as NSW is concerned, the NW quadrant of the state enjoyed > >some sizebale storms yesterday (Thursday). Most of the storms > >initiated in a box bounded by the Broken Hill-Cobar-Bourke > >lines and the NSW state borders. Initiation focused on the region > >within and W of the moist axis extending down from QLD. > >The cyclonic turning of the surface wind between Cobar and Broken Hill > >seemed to have been a hint indeed (as a proxy for likely surface > >lift). > > > >Last night's Cobar sounding shows weak shear (~ 20 kts) keeping the > >storms in the region below severe levels, I suppose. The morning (23Z) > >sounding > >had significant CAPE, though. Even further E the shear wasn't > >great with 25 knots at 500 hPa. The AVN was a tad too optimistic here. > > > >------------- > >TDU2K PEOPLE: > >------------- > >(1) Are you going to post (daily) chase summaries to the list?? > > These would be valuable for forecast verifications, among other > >things. > >(2) Are you going to post your (daily) consensus forecast to the list?? > > I think it would be nice to have a spread of opinions rather > > than just my own handwaving deliberations. > > > >Back to work, > > > >Harald > > > >-- > >------------------------------------------- > >Harald Richter > >NOAA/National Severe Storms Laboratory > >1313 Halley Circle > >Norman, OK 73069, U.S.A. > >ph.: (405) 366-0430 > >fax: (405) 579-0808 > >email: hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov > >web: http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/~hrichter > >------------------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OUTLOOK TODAY Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:32:01 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Actually here in Wollongong there are small glimpses of sunshine for the first time since last weekend. There is the small chance of weak thundery activity on the escarpment late today, but after that a SE ( Storm Eradicator ) wind should develop and stabilise an already boring situation. Michael > The synoptic-scale surface pressure gradient recommends to go NW > away from the dangerously high pressure values along Jane's > proposed route of travel to Sydney. This is also a recipe to stay > away from the cooler coastal surface temperatures. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Pissing down To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:34:35 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hi List, > > If you haven't already noticed, the Central Coast (Qld) is copping a > bucketing at the moment. > > Unofficial rainfall reports exceeding 400mm overnight south of Mackay. Local > flooding widespread. 418 at Sarina, 327 at Mackay. Somewhat to my surprise, only 150 at Finch Hatton - having seen the numbers coming out of Mackay earlier this morning, I thought there might have been even more phenomenal falls in the ranges behind Mackay. > In Proserpine only 35mm in last 24 hours, but very heavy since just after > daylight. Plenty more to come looking at radar. No thunder or lightning > though. > > One for Blair to comment on - could be some record 24 hour falls, although > some cyclones may have dumped more. November records have certainly been demolished (most previous records were in the 150-200 range). It's even conceivable that the Sarina observation may be in the upper echelons of Queensland daily totals for November, although I would need to check this. (November is normally too early for cyclones in this area). Mackay has actually, in one fell swoop, gone close to its November monthly record (359, combining the post-1959 Met Office record with the previous Post Office site). I'd be surprised if any site with a reasonable length of record (and certainly nothing that was open during the 1918 cyclone) has set an all-time 24-hour record, unless there are sites in the hinterland with totals well above 400 that haven't reported yet. Mackay MO's record (in the post-1959 period) is 389, the PO's is 627. Finch Hatton has had 878 (and reports on that event suggest that a number of potentially even higher totals in the area were lost due to overflowing gauges), the second-highest 24-hour total on record in Australia (with the caveat that Bellenden Ker has almost certainly been higher, but no 24-hour total from a really heavy event has ever been captured there because the staff weren't there to take an observation, leading to the bizarre situation whereby the Australian two-day record is more than double the one-day record!). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: REPORT(s) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:39:21 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hi Matt and crew > > Can you post your mobiles, I am stuck looking after the baby over the next > week or so, therefore when she is asleep I can log on and give you some > updates. > > Yesterday you were too far east, nearest thunderstorm in vicinity of Cobar, > a couple also fired along the Murray River from Echuca to Swan Hill and > another slow mover near Sale in the Gippsland. > > Michael > There was a small cell with impressively heavy rain over the eastern suburbs of Melbourne at about 7.15-7.30 last night - I was running a race underneath it! As far as I can tell it was too small to hit any official real-time gauges, but one of the NCC staff recorded 22mm at a gauge at his house in Mitcham. I'd estimate peak rainfall rates around 50 mm/hr, not bad for Melbourne. Blair (does this mean I'm the first person to attempt a chase on foot?) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: patricktobin at ozemail.com.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com CC: Subject: aus-wx: Canberra looks good today Date: Fri, Nov 17 2000 11:46:39 GMT+1100 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The cloud has finally broken and the sun is now out strongly for the first time in a week. As a result - with a very moist atmosphere and good bouyancy, towers are starting to shoot up everywhere. There should be some good action around SE NSW this afternoon. Patrick This message was sent through MyMail http://www.mymail.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe weather warning for central QLD Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:04:16 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, There were some massive totals in central QLD to 9am this morning, the highest in the 9am rainfall bulletin are: Sarina 418mm Mackay 328mm Mackay East 315mm Te Kowai 270mm The BOM have issued a severe weather warning, and as you would expect some flood warnings are now starting to show up TOP PRIORITY SEVERE WEATHER WARNING Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane At 0800 EST on Friday the 17th of November 2000 for areas between Proserpine and St Lawrence. Very heavy rainfall may develop between Proserpine and St Lawrence over the next 24 hours similar to that which occurred overnight in the Mackay area. This rainfall will cause stream rises and local flooding. Care should be taken as some roads may be flooded. [3 INSERT STATEMENTS FROM NOTES] The next Severe Weather Warning will be issued at 11 am . ----- Original Message ----- From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" To: "Wx Aus" Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 9:03 AM Subject: aus-wx: Pissing down > Hi List, > > If you haven't already noticed, the Central Coast (Qld) is copping a > bucketing at the moment. > > Unofficial rainfall reports exceeding 400mm overnight south of Mackay. Local > flooding widespread. > > In Proserpine only 35mm in last 24 hours, but very heavy since just after > daylight. Plenty more to come looking at radar. No thunder or lightning > though. > > One for Blair to comment on - could be some record 24 hour falls, although > some cyclones may have dumped more. > > (By the way Blair, hope you enjoyed the recent conference - saw your name on > the attendees list. One of our local cane farmers and fellow list member, > Doug Lee, attended) > > Regards, > Bill, Proserpine. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Weather start to go off in Northern Adelaide suburbs. Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:35:19 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
It has gone off in Northern suburbs this afternoon. Saw 2 thundercloud. Saw one with cloudburst but died out. We are gonna see shower and thunder this afternoon probably. Radar look nice actually. Hot day today, wear hat and sun cream on and air conditioner inside. Hehehe
 
Good luck!
 
From Nathan.
From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: aus-wx: STA out for SA Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:21:54 +1100 Organization: ASWA Victoria X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This has just been broadcast for SA
 
IDW16S02
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
SOUTH AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Issued at 12:40 pm on Friday, 17 November 2000
For people in the Flinders, Mid North, the Riverland, Murraylands, Upper and
Lower South East, Yorke Peninsula and Northeast Pastoral districts.

Thunderstorms are occurring in parts of the Advice area and are forecast to
continue during  this afternoon and evening. Some of these thunderstorms may
produce very heavy rain and isolated severe wind gusts. Localised flash flooding
and damage to property may occur.

The State Emergency Service advises that people should secure loose outside
objects and beware of flooded roads and watercourses. Driving conditions may be
hazardous.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 1:05 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Weather start to go off in Northern Adelaide suburbs.

Hi all,
 
It has gone off in Northern suburbs this afternoon. Saw 2 thundercloud. Saw one with cloudburst but died out. We are gonna see shower and thunder this afternoon probably. Radar look nice actually. Hot day today, wear hat and sun cream on and air conditioner inside. Hehehe
 
Good luck!
 
From Nathan.
From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Pissing down Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:30:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Blair, List, Thanks for the info Blair - still raining steadily here, but much more South of Mackay by the look of the radar. The daily data I keep for Proserpine is limited to 1957 to date. Max any day in P'pine - 452 Max November day - 107.2 in 1991 (then 99.2, 1998 and 86.2 in 1988) Annual data goes back to 1886 (P'pine composite) For month of November Mean - 74 Median - 54 Max - 350 Min - 0 Std Dev. - 74 Could yet get into record country ! A look at the radar will show why the heaviest falls have been on the coast. The hinterland gets its high daily falls generally from eastward moving (storm) systems - this lot is scooting ~ southwards down the coast. A place called Chelman's farm on the top of Eungella Range regularly records high figures, but his morning reported "only" 74, compared with the coastal 300's plus. Back to work, Regards, Bill, Proserpine. ----- Original Message ----- From: Blair Trewin To: Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 10:34 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Pissing down > > > > Hi List, > > > > If you haven't already noticed, the Central Coast (Qld) is copping a > > bucketing at the moment. > > > > Unofficial rainfall reports exceeding 400mm overnight south of Mackay. Local > > flooding widespread. > > 418 at Sarina, 327 at Mackay. Somewhat to my surprise, only 150 at > Finch Hatton - having seen the numbers coming out of Mackay earlier > this morning, I thought there might have been even more phenomenal > falls in the ranges behind Mackay. > > > In Proserpine only 35mm in last 24 hours, but very heavy since just after > > daylight. Plenty more to come looking at radar. No thunder or lightning > > though. > > > > One for Blair to comment on - could be some record 24 hour falls, although > > some cyclones may have dumped more. > > November records have certainly been demolished (most previous records > were in the 150-200 range). It's even conceivable that the Sarina > observation may be in the upper echelons of Queensland daily totals > for November, although I would need to check this. (November is > normally too early for cyclones in this area). Mackay has actually, > in one fell swoop, gone close to its November monthly record (359, > combining the post-1959 Met Office record with the previous Post > Office site). > > I'd be surprised if any site with a reasonable length of record > (and certainly nothing that was open during the 1918 cyclone) has > set an all-time 24-hour record, unless there are sites in the > hinterland with totals well above 400 that haven't reported yet. > Mackay MO's record (in the post-1959 period) is 389, the PO's is 627. > Finch Hatton has had 878 (and reports on that event suggest that a > number of potentially even higher totals in the area were lost due > to overflowing gauges), the second-highest 24-hour total on record > in Australia (with the caveat that Bellenden Ker has almost certainly > been higher, but no 24-hour total from a really heavy event has ever > been captured there because the staff weren't there to take an > observation, leading to the bizarre situation whereby the Australian > two-day record is more than double the one-day record!). > > Blair > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [155.144.17.252] From: "Simon" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Severe Weather Warning for Victoria Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:26:51 EST X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2000 03:26:51.0269 (UTC) FILETIME=[39B85B50:01C05046] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE Thunderstorm Warning Issued at 1:26pm on Friday the 17th of November 2000 forthe Melbourne Metropolitan Area Thunderstorms are likely to develop over the metropolitan area during the rest of this afternoon and evening. =========== IDW16V00 BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST Severe Thunderstorm Advice Issued at 2:21pm on Friday the 17th of November 2000 for the Mallee, Wimmera, Western, Northern Country, North Central, Central, Northeast, West & South Gippsland, East Gippsland and Alpine districts. A number of active areas of thunderstorms has been identified on radar, mainly about the ranges and eastern Wimmera and Mallee districts. Severe thunderstorms are likely in the above districts, particularly about the ranges. Thunderstorms are expected to be slow-moving. People in the above districts are advised that these thunderstorms have the potential to cause flash flooding and possible large hail. This advice is valid until 5pm Friday 17th November and should not be used after this time. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.87.166] From: "S G" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Excellent weather in Adelaide Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:12:13 CST X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2000 03:42:13.0601 (UTC) FILETIME=[5F790D10:01C05048] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow!!! The weather is really turning nasty here in Adelaide. Convection everywhere very warm and humid with almost pitch black clouds in the northern suburbs. Surprised there is no STA out for Adelaide only everywhere around here, hopefully that will change with the next STA. 100m/hr rainfall rates just to the north and heard one rumble of thunder a while ago. The high cloud that started to pass over last night seems to have interacted with this long line of t'storm cloud along the ranges from the Flinders. Well the forecast wasn't looking to hopefull today now it seems great and this if there is a t'storm will make up for the lack of t'storms all week. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: patricktobin at ozemail.com.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com CC: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather Warning for Victoria Date: Fri, Nov 17 2000 14:47:23 GMT+1100 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Isn't that the whole of Victoria covered by the STA? Some nice cells developing to the south of Canberra now. Patrick ============================================================ From: "Simon" Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:26:51 EST To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Severe Weather Warning for Victoria BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE Thunderstorm Warning Issued at 1:26pm on Friday the 17th of November 2000 forthe Melbourne Metropolitan Area Thunderstorms are likely to develop over the metropolitan area during the rest of this afternoon and evening. =========== IDW16V00 BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST Severe Thunderstorm Advice Issued at 2:21pm on Friday the 17th of November 2000 for the Mallee, Wimmera, Western, Northern Country, North Central, Central, Northeast, West & South Gippsland, East Gippsland and Alpine districts. A number of active areas of thunderstorms has been identified on radar, mainly about the ranges and eastern Wimmera and Mallee districts. Severe thunderstorms are likely in the above districts, particularly about the ranges. Thunderstorms are expected to be slow-moving. People in the above districts are advised that these thunderstorms have the potential to cause flash flooding and possible large hail. This advice is valid until 5pm Friday 17th November and should not be used after this time. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ This message was sent through MyMail http://www.mymail.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Excellent weather in Adelaide To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:01:33 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Wow!!! > > > The weather is really turning nasty here in Adelaide. Convection everywhere > very warm and humid with almost pitch black clouds in the northern suburbs. > Surprised there is no STA out for Adelaide only everywhere around here, > hopefully that will change with the next STA. 100m/hr rainfall rates just > to the north and heard one rumble of thunder a while ago. The high cloud > that started to pass over last night seems to have interacted with this long > line of t'storm cloud along the ranges from the Flinders. Well the forecast > wasn't looking to hopefull today now it seems great and this if there is a > t'storm will make up for the lack of t'storms all week. The storm is currently right on top of the Parafield AWS, which has recorded 10.4mm in the last 10 minutes, winds gusting to 40 knots and a temperature of 20.8 (looks like a drop of 10 degrees or so) with 100% humidity. It will be interesting to see what they end up with. (Parafield's obs are available on the external web). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [141.132.130.82] From: "Leslie Baxter" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather Warning for Victoria Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:56:33 GMT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2000 03:56:33.0839 (UTC) FILETIME=[6036F3F0:01C0504A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Nice, yup a ring of storms is around Ballarat at this stage, a feww CC and one CG seen so far, heavy showers at this stage, it was to be a 3 day event, looks like it's going to go another, saturday here we're to have more storms and showers. Nice of the trough to stay and give us a taste of queensland. LEs >From: "Simon" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: Severe Weather Warning for Victoria >Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:26:51 EST > >BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY >VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE > > >Thunderstorm Warning > >Issued at 1:26pm on Friday the 17th of November 2000 forthe Melbourne >Metropolitan Area > >Thunderstorms are likely to develop over the metropolitan area during the >rest >of this afternoon and evening. >=========== > >IDW16V00 > >BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY >VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE > > >NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST > >Severe Thunderstorm Advice > >Issued at 2:21pm on Friday the 17th of November 2000 for the Mallee, >Wimmera, >Western, Northern Country, North Central, Central, Northeast, West & South >Gippsland, East Gippsland and Alpine districts. > >A number of active areas of thunderstorms has been identified on radar, >mainly >about the ranges and eastern Wimmera and Mallee districts. Severe >thunderstorms >are likely in the above districts, particularly about the ranges. >Thunderstorms >are expected to be slow-moving. People in the above districts are advised >that >these thunderstorms have the potential to cause flash flooding and possible >large hail. > >This advice is valid until 5pm Friday 17th November and should not be used >after >this time. > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather Warning for Victoria To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:04:37 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Isn't that the whole of Victoria covered by the STA? I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice :-) It probably has something to do with the limitations of the computer system used in the preparation of these things (I'm not an operational forecaster so I don't know exactly how these things are issued, but wouldn't mind betting that it is an interface along the lines of 'check boxes for districts this warning is valid for'). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne set to break two November records for warm minima To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:43:29 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Melbourne's mean minimum for November so far is 14.7. This is well above the existing record of 13.3 in 1975 (and 3.7 above normal), meaning a record is almost certain, given the forecast for the next week. There have also been 9 consecutive nights above 14. The November record is 10 (14-23 November 1975). With the forecast for the next two nights this should be beaten. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:12:53 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: ADELAIDE GOES OFF! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Multiple pulses going up in the Adelaide Area at the present. And I just got home! I'mm off to the Malalla plains.... Yeeeehaaaaaaaa................... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Findlay" To: Subject: aus-wx: Radio Freqs and SMS Numbers Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:08:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com What are the radio frequencys going to be used by TDU2K? I wouldn't mind try to listen. Do the Amateur radio people in australia have a frequency for a storm spotters network? Also if anyone wants If they post their mobile number for SMS I could help keep you up to date on what is happening as I will be online most of the time and monitoring this list. David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather Warning for Victoria Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 18:42:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I thought I was seeing things too! Wasn't game to say :-) Not a thing happening here at present. A little high level cloud but not much else. Looks to be a fair bit down near the ranges though. Very humid though, you only have to walk over a grassed area and you can feel it "rising". Can't recall where this late in the season it's so green and lush here. Should be starting to look like a dustbowl :-) Bussy (NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blair Trewin" To: Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 3:04 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather Warning for Victoria > > > > Isn't that the whole of Victoria covered by the STA? > > I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice :-) > > It probably has something to do with the limitations of the computer > system used in the preparation of these things (I'm not an operational > forecaster so I don't know exactly how these things are issued, but > wouldn't mind betting that it is an interface along the lines of > 'check boxes for districts this warning is valid for'). > > Blair > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Karratha Weather Observations" To: Subject: aus-wx: Heat returns to Karratha - Ex TC02s getting sheared apart but TCFA remains GOOD :) - WA STA Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:45:34 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey all
 
Today the maximum temperature in Karratha reached 36.7C at 12:03pm on our weather station which is the warmest day since October 6th when the temperature reached 40.3C. The last month and a bit has been very below average for this time of year with temperatures around 30C with the occasional temperature in the low 30's except for the first week of October when we had 2 40C+ days in a row. I'm looking forward to this weekend with the possibility of some inland storms in the Pilbara which I'm going to chase if they develop :). http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/jj/ LI's are forecast to be -5 out towards Port Hedland way with a cape of around 1000-1400 but I will wait to see if anything develops before heading out.
 
On another note EX TC02s re development is being hindered by strong NW'ly wind shear which is pushing the convection SEwards and leaving the LLCC clearly exposed. Hopefully it will remain intact as it moves eastwards and reform east of 90E :).
Latest JTWC update says the potential for ex-TC02s to re form in the next 24hrs remains good as it moves ESE
 
 
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT 170730Z NOV 00//
WTXS21 PGTW 170730
REF/A/RMG/NAVPACMETOCCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/160721Z NOV 00//
AMPN/REF IS TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT (WTXS21 PGTW 160730)//
RMKS/
1. FORMATION OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE IS POSSIBLE WITHIN
A 240 NM RADIUS OF 11.3S5 86.7E1 WITHIN THE NEXT 18 TO 24 HOURS.
AVAILABLE DATA DOES NOT JUSTIFY ISSUANCE OF NUMBERED TROPICAL
CYCLONE WARNINGS AT THIS TIME. WINDS IN THE AREA ARE ESTIMATED
TO BE 20 TO 25 KNOTS. METSAT IMAGERY AT 170530Z6 INDICATES THAT A
CIRCULATION CENTER IS LOCATED NEAR 11.2S4 86.7E1. THE SYSTEM IS
MOVING EAST-SOUTHEASTWARD AT 05 KNOTS.
2. REMARKS:
THIS SUPERSEDES REF A.
THE AREA OF CONVECTION (REMNANTS OF TROPICAL CYCLONE 02S) PREVIOUSLY
LOCATED NEAR 10.9S0 85.3E6 IS NOW LOCATED NEAR 11.2S4 86.7E1,
APPROXIMATELY 600 NM WEST OF COCOS ISLAND. ANIMATED VISIBLE
SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS A FULLY-EXPOSED LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION
CENTER (LLCC). A 170503Z6 TROPICAL RAINFALL MEASURING MISSION PASS
DEPICTS A WELL-DEFINED LLCC WITH ISOLATED DEEP CONVECTION SHEARED
ABOUT 40 NM SOUTHEAST OF THE CENTER. THE 200 MB ANALYSIS INDICATES
THAT THE AREA IS SOUTH OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE AXIS AND IS UNDER 15
TO 20-KNOT NORTHWESTERLY FLOW. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS
ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1003 MB. THE POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A
SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS REMAINS GOOD.
3. THIS ALERT WILL BE REISSUED, UPGRADED TO WARNING OR CANCELLED BY
180730Z9.//
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The French (LA REUNION) TC Centre has it weakening in intensity in 12hrs but stationary intensity in 24hrs
 
WTIO20 FMEE 170600
 
SECURITE
WARNING FOR METAREA VIII (S)
ISSUED BY METEO-FRANCE/TROPICAL CYCLONE CENTRE/LA REUNION
17/11/2000 AT 0600 UTC
WIND SPEED IN KNOTS (KT)
WARNING NUMBER       : 012/02 (SOUTH-WEST INDIAN OCEAN)
BEGINNING OF VALID   : FRIDAY 17/11/2000 AT 0600 UTC
PHENOMENON           : TROPICAL DISTURBANCE 02   1002 HPA
POSITION             : WITHIN 20 NM RADIUS OF POINT 10.8S/86.7E
    (TEN DECIMAL EIGHT DEGREES SOUTH AND EIGHTY SIX DECIMAL SEVEN
    DEGREES EAST) AT 0600 UTC
MOVEMENT             : EAST  3 KT
MENACED AREAS        : SQUALLY WEATHER EXISTS IN THE SOUTHERN
    SEMI-CIRCLE UNTILL 200 NM FROM THE CENTRE.
 
CLOCKWISE WINDS 20/25 KT REACHING LOCALLY NEAR GALE FORCE 30 KT
    IN THE SOUTH AND ROUGH TO LOCALLY VERY ROUGH SEAS.
STRONG GUSTS UNDER SQUALLS.
 
FORECASTED POSITION 17/11/2000 AT 1800 UTC: 10.7 SOUTH/87.2 EAST
 WEAKENING.
FORECASTED POSITION 18/11/2000 AT 0600 UTC: 10.3 SOUTH/87.4 EAST
 STATIONARY INTENSITY.
OTHER INFORMATIONS   :  THE SYSTEM REMAINS WEAK AND DOES NOT
    JUSTIFY ISSUANCE OF REGULAR WARNINGS. HOWEVER IT IS STILL
    MONITORED AND NEW WARNINGS WILL BE ISSUED IF THERE ARE SIGNS
    OF INTENSIFICATION.=
 
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Also this afternoon some MASSIVE storms have developed on the trough in WA with a STA being issued 1/2 hour ago.
http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/satimages/gmsc.jpg - check out the size of them on the latest IR!
 
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
 
PRIORITY
FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
 
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Issued at 2:50 pm WST on Friday, 17 November 2000
 
People in the far east of the Goldfields and the western Eucla are advised that
there is a risk of severe thunderstorms during the remainder of this afternoon
and evening.
 
Storms may be accompanied by hail, flash flooding and strong winds that could
result in damage to property.
 
At 2pm this afternoon satellite imagery showed an active line of thunderstorms
running from just to the east of Laverton southwards to Balladonia and moving
eastwards.
 
The State Emergency Service advises that people should keep a lookout for
thunderstorms and if storms approach secure loose items, move vehicles under
cover, then stay indoors until the storms have passed. Driving conditions may be
hazardous.
 
This Thunderstorm Advice will be updated at 6:00 pm.
 
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That's it from me today hehe
 
Regards JJ
 
From a very Breezy Karratha where the W'ly Seabreeze is gusting to Galeforce 33kn  (61km/h) at times at the AP
Current temperature at 3:30pm WST 32/20 1003hPa
 
ICQ 6187498
 
 
 
 
From: "Pearce" To: Subject: aus-wx: Funnel in Sydney Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 19:01:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all
 
Well, a very successful mini-chase was had this afternoon! The rain finally stopped in Sydney early afternoon, with blue sky becoming dominant by around 3pm. At this time, large congestus were forming to the SW and W of the city, thanks to the very high DPs(around 20C) and now warming temps, getting into the mid 20s. I watched this for a bit from uni, then decided to head off around 4pm when a nice cell looked to be going up around Richmond. I headed NW on the M2, getting to Seven Hills around 5pm. At this point, there was a lot of mid level cloud around with some light rain falling, and I was not too impressed. However, there was a nice cell to the ESE, with a classic flanking line on it...very impressive. After calling Daniel Weatherhead and finding that this was only light blue on radar, I decided to watch it for a bit then turned around and headed home.
 
However...about 1 min later, after glancing in the rear-vision mirror, I noticed a long protrusion out the base of the flanking line. I turned around and screeched to a halt faster than I ever have before...Yep, sure enough, there was a funnel right beneath the 1st updraft along the flanking line, extending about an 1/8th of the way to the ground. This would have been around Parramatta way from first guestimates.
 
I was very impressed as I had never seen a funnel before, and got some strange comments from a resident who thought I was staring at his house while I was watching the cloud! The funnel was visible to me from 5:13pm to 5:21pm to the SE of Seven Hills. Following this, the cell began to precipitate heavily, and produce many other nice, but not particularly suspicious, lowerings until about 5:45pm or so when it died.
 
All the action was very pulsy this afternoon due to the complete lack of any winds at any low levels to speak of, but the instability was there, and it just shows that sometimes you have to obey instinct, even if it does mean missing your Friday 4-6pm Maths lecture :P
 
Still storms to the S of Sydney now, hoping for more to come
 
Matt
 
PS - Update on TD2K: Matt et al spent most of the day around Cobar and saw a few nice storms, one with interesting lowerings. DP was around 20C much of the day out there. Hopefully, things will improve somewhat for them over the weekend.
 
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 19:23:05 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather Warning for Victoria From: "twc at theweather.com.au" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It's something they should really try and fix. Listing all the districts like that makes it impossible to get the warning out fast. It seems crazy they cannot abbreviate the message. _____________________________________________________ The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. Level 2, 7 West Street, North Sydney 2060 http://www.theweather.com.au _____________________________________________________ ---------- >From: "bussie" >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather Warning for Victoria >Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 18:42 > > I thought I was seeing things too! Wasn't game to say :-) Not a thing > happening here at present. A little high level cloud but not much else. > Looks to be a fair bit down near the ranges though. Very humid though, you > only have to walk over a grassed area and you can feel it "rising". Can't > recall where this late in the season it's so green and lush here. Should be > starting to look like a dustbowl :-) > Bussy (NE Victoria) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Blair Trewin" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 3:04 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather Warning for Victoria > > >> > >> > Isn't that the whole of Victoria covered by the STA? >> >> I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice :-) >> >> It probably has something to do with the limitations of the computer >> system used in the preparation of these things (I'm not an operational >> forecaster so I don't know exactly how these things are issued, but >> wouldn't mind betting that it is an interface along the lines of >> 'check boxes for districts this warning is valid for'). >> >> Blair >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: skerans at mail.cth.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 18:30:33 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Sel Kerans Subject: Re: aus-wx: Pissing down (pissistantly!) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We would say up here that it is quite 'pissistantly' coming down! Very wet where I am and no end to the rain in sight! Ah, Queensland! (sigh) Beautiful one day, 'bucketsful' the next! ;-) Sel. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sel Kerans Coordinator \|/ &&&&& Project Atmosphere Australia On-line -0- .--_|\ "/" WWW: http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa /|\ / \ \ Email: skerans at mail.cth.com.au \_.--\_/ EQ: sel.kerans at qed.qld.gov.au v ph 07 3881 9623 fax 07 3881 9640 *** Now taking registrations from schools around the world *** *** On-line activities scheduled for March, April, May 2000 *** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.87.1] From: "S G" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Possible storms in Adelaide on Saturday Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:33:08 CST X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2000 12:03:09.0092 (UTC) FILETIME=[59F10640:01C0508E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My mood has changed a lot after today it was great to finally see a proper severe thunderstorm today in the north of Adelaide. When it was still sunny in the south of Adelaide at around 1pm today I looked north down Portrush Road and there was just a massive wall of black cloud it was amazing, it was so hot and humid at that time that the weather was really showing what it's capable of. Although there were some rumbles of thunder the t'storm didn't really reach near to Adelaide City or the eastern suburbs it just fizzeled out. Never mind it was still a good show. Then there was some a huge amounts of convection to the south as a t'storm developed just over the other side of the hills. It would be great if we got a t'storm tomorrow here in Adelaide. There is a lot of moisture around and the trough should edge slightly closer plus the airstream should be more east to north east, hopefully feeding a lot of moisture in from drenched central Queensland. I won't get my hopes up for tomorrow. If it comes then it's a bonus if it doesn't never mind. I never get my hopes up for near summer or summer t'storm activity in Adelaide. Well I try not to!!! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:01:38 +0800 From: Mark Dwyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: TDU2K Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, on the list i will not be on TDU2K for the next 3 week's or so, So if any send's any emails to me there might be a short delay in me responding to you. I will respond ASAP one i get back home or when and where i gain access to the Internet. My contact number will be the Mobile 040 799 1213, any update's while on TDU would be greatly appreciated whether they be by voice, SMS or by leaving messages. Cheer's, Mark Dwyer aka MJ. Storm Chaser, Photographer & Webmaster of: Downunder Severe Weather http://dsw.au.com and a Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association Inc. http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 18:01:08 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: ADELAIDE GOES OFF! Mk2 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Howdy all Just got back from an afternoon chase north to Balaklava then to Auburn in the Clare Valley and return by the same route. Obvious high humidity set the towers off early this morning. A minor upper low making the difference from previous days' disappointments. Some good falls overnight in the north - Gluepot got around 45mm apparently [this station seems to get a lot of heavy falls for a region with less than 300mm rainfall - Blair? What gives???]. Anyway, set off at 12.15. Static on the radio and a large rainy cell, already outflow dominant, over Mallala. Snapped a nice rain foot on the way north but basically decided to punch though and see if there was any new development on the north flank. By Balaklava the sky was full of rain shafts and getting 'gunked' by anvil gunge. Nice outflow winds though. Lunch in the town was interrupted by a crack of thunder and a nice prong [no rotation] right over the main street! Everything til now was just single pulse stuff - nice but nothing severe. A 'big black' with occasional lowerings was over the Snowtown-Clare area and heading my way, so I steered northeast to Auburn. Ran through the core about 10k out of town, the rain was so heavy I had to stop! Instantly the country was streaming with water. Got out of the car to find myself on the rain free back edge with rotation overhead! Damn, by the time I changed lenses [no zoom - I do it the old way! at #$%%] it was far less distinct. I climbed into the Clare ranges and found a perfect spot to view this receeding base, now rotating slowly in *anticlockwise* fashion with a nice little corkscrew up the convective shaft and the odd CG. Hopefully I got some nice shots. And that was basically it. Some nice towers were going off on the South Mt lofties on the way home but convection was basically over. No arcus', rollclouds or funnels...sniff...All in all, nothing spectacular but it was nice to break the drought. Speaking of which - St Peters where I live [only 2km from the Kenttown Bureau site] got bugger all, so I'm glad I went..... Any other SA stories??????? Bye.... Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------