X-Sender: bmunr001 at student.mq.edu.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 01:08:57 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Ben Munro Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fuel costs and chasing Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Queensland has some kind of state government subsidy, so prices will always be cheaper there. Sydney's Petrol prices are currently averaging just under a dollar. At 15:22 10-11-00 +1000, you wrote: >Ya canna be serious... >Brisbane average price is around 85c/litre. Cheapest currently at 77c/litre > >Regards, >John. >>snip > >A gallon is 4.54litres and at 101.9 cents a litre here works out to nearly >$4.63 per gallon. Lets all move :-) >Bussy +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les" To: , "rosemary.hartill" , "Ron Button" , "Phil Bagust" , "Paul Daniels' toupe" , "Michael Thompson" , "Matt Capper" , "LuRowl" , "Lucy Rowsell" , "Leslie R. Lemon" , , , "Joan Jewitt" , "Jimmy Deguara" , "Jane ONeill" , , "CAVOK" , "aus-wx" , "Alison Whitley" , "-=jj2k=-" Subject: aus-wx: The Wallsend StormCam Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:31:29 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Everybody,
 
The URL for the Wallsend StormCam has been changed, if you wish to access it direct.
 
It's
 
 
Also updates every 10 minutes now, with a larger number of "previous" pix.
 
Les (UK)
 From: "McDonald" To: Subject: aus-wx: Mammoth Chase in Vic Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:54:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey all,
 
As you all heard chris and I had a very eventful chase yesterday seeing out first funnel just after 10:30am to the N of Swan Hill.  By 1:30pm the funnel count was up to 7 and the tornado count up to 1.  We also encountered a massive storm system to the S of Sea Lake which eventually hit Oyen (we didn't make it that far) of which we got some spectacular footage and a strongly rotating meso.  I'll hopefully get around to doing a full chase report before th big chase starts this week. 
 
More chasing likely today.
 
Andrew McDonald.
 From: "McDonald" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado's Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 10:14:07 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com John & All, I think this is what chris and myself observed yesterday with 1 touchdown and 3 other funnels coming from the one general area in a matter of 10's of minutes. We also observed two funnels (simultaneously) a little later in the day from a similar situation. Macca ----- Original Message ----- From: Leslie R. Lemon To: Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 5:02 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornado's > John Woodbridgen wrote: > > > What I have never seen or heard of in Australia is LP storm systems which > > produce tornado families, with as many as half a dozen vortices visible > at > > one time. This does happen in the U.S. mid-west and that certainly is a > > distinction. > > The LP storms are not the cyclic tornado producers in the US. LP storms > are often small, short lived, and primarily produce hail. Those that live > longer will often evolve into the 'classic' supercell. It is the so-called > "classic" supercell that can be a family producer. Estimates are that > about 40% of these storms produce sequential tornadoes. Last year's > Oklahoma outbreak on May 3rd was an outbreak of these 'classic' supercell > storms. These storms produce a series of tornadoes, not uncommonly over a > several hour time-frame. Usually there are only two in existence at one > time. One entering the dissipating "rope" stage with an occluding > mesocyclone core and another developing and enlarging tornado with a second > maturing mesocyclone core. There seems to about a 40-minute period to > tornado occurrences with these storms. > > However, you may also remember the photos of a short tcu line-segment with > several tornadoes (six or more) on the ground simultaneously side-by-side. > These tornadoes were much more the "land-spout" variety. > > Les > > ************************ > Leslie R. Lemon > Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist > Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 > E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p30-max41.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.158] claimed to be storm.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 10:33:35 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Meeting last night!!!!!!!! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I must say that last night it was the most impressive turnout for a meeting of ASWA in Sydney. Wehave never had 24 turn up so far - not even for the AGM. We had a visitor from Canada, David Sills who wanted to have a look at the footage and also was impressed with what we had to offer. He also congratulated ASWA on how organised it was and I think the numbers in ASWA blew him out of his boots. I would also like to thank Paul Rands and Dean McWhinney who also attended their first meeting. Dean joined as a member. It seemed like they enjoyed themselves at the meeting. The meeting featured the Sydney tornado - thanks to Matt and also Con. It then ventured onto the supercell near Coffs Harbour two days later which David believes that there was a tornado I had observed ( and a suspicious one which seemed to touch the ground below the main wall updraught tower). All in all it was impressive footage by all and also the photographs were great. Thanks to all for making it a special night. ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dane Newman" To: Subject: aus-wx: Mt Beauty report Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:26:39 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Plenty of rain up here in Tawonga Sth/Mt Beauty since i moved here. Another 27.4mm up to 9am today giving us 59.4mm in the last 3 days and 201.4mm since the 17th of October. Currently (11.25am) overcast and raining, yesterdays top temperature was 17.6c, overnight minimum 14.3c. Unfortunately this overcast weather is not condusive to thunderstorm development. Only action here in the last few days was a bit of cc sheet lightning on Friday night, Dane. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:04:37 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List Subject: aus-wx: NSW Storm Chase Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Jimmy and Mario are heading out towards Mudgee-Dubbo today, I'm sure they'd appreciate updates on: 0408 020 4682 -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.87.197] From: "S G" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Tropics coming to Adelaide Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:45:17 CST X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2000 01:15:17.0875 (UTC) FILETIME=[04D34430:01C04C46] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It look like the tropics will be visting Adelaide for the coming week. A shower or two and possible thunder, mostly near the hills and northern suburbs is forecast for tomorrow which sounds ok although I won't get my hopes up. The part of tomorrows forecast that worries me is that it will be mostly cloudy and there will be a relatively strong sea breeze in the afternoon, hopefully this won't stop some good convection occurring. I suppose it all depends on the positioning of the trough. For the reat of the week thunderstorms look very likely, a few upper level disturbances especially from WA when one is at the moment may interact with all of the moisture to cause some very good thunderstorm activity. Anyway it would be great to see a thunderstorm every day this week:-) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: My Chase Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 13:04:01 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI ROBERT. There's nothing like getting your hands dirty with the real stuff, such trips are very satisfying when you were able to see upfront all the goings on in real time, if you managed to get tingles along the back of your neck you were in the right place! congratulations hope to see some of your photos soon. regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Goler To: Aussie-wx Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 12:35 AM Subject: aus-wx: My Chase > > Hi all > > Well I've just come back from my 850km chase, where I headed to Ballarat, > but continued out to Mortlake and Hamilton and the surrounds (another > nominee for mouse chase, Clyve?!). Saw similar stuff that Jane posted, > but with more intense updrafts, and there was more clear sky around so > you could see the tops. On two occasions I saw something which resembled > the photo that Jane posted as a Christmas card last year, ie her image > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Images/yea270199.jpg > > but without the huge cirrus top as this was blocked by middle level > cloud, and the updrafts were a bright white since it was mid afternoon. > The first time was completely by accident, as I reached a point where the > northwestern sky was completely devoid of clouds. I turned around to head > back from whence I came and whoa! (actually, a few expletives were thrown > in) > Also, on both occasions, I was more side on, and so it didn't appear as > 'flayed' out as in this shot. There was also an interesting broad lowering > under one of the building updrafts (wall cloud??). > > I passed through some heavy rain (no hail though), saw the Grampians for > the first time, was surprised at how big a city Ballarat is, and managed > to shoot about 4 rolls of film. Currently I'm looking at what tomorrow is > offering, and am willing to do the same that I did today. Although, it was > a bit hairy coming back as I was very low on fuel and it was touch and go > as to whether I could make it back to Ballarat, as all the service > stations in the small towns were shut up already. Fortunately, I did > manage to find a station open which was a huge relief. > > Other peoples tips as to what will be the hot spots for tomorrow > are definitely welcome. > > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > Department of Mathematics and Statistics > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: fear of storms Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:25:47 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Move to Wollongong, you will not need to deal with the fear.
 
Michael
 
 
 
THE LIGHTNING I HAD TO GO INSIDE AS IT WAS JUST TO BAD.IT DOES'NT SEEM TO WORRY ANYONE ELSE, JUST ME. ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO OVER COME THIS FEAR.LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING SOME ADVICE.
 
EVELYN
 
 From: "Pearce" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: fear of storms Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:31:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Strange, but I used to be terrified of storms too, like about 10 years or so ago. Someone mentioned though about exposure therapy, and I agree with that theory. I lived in Singapore for 18 months where you can set your watch by the afternoon storm, and you just had to deal with them...thinking back, I wasted such a great opportunity there to watch some awesome storms by being terrified of them! But yeah, just watch as many as possible from the safety of inside, then gradually venture outside, until you feel comfortable doing that, then eventually you may even be chasing them one day too! You've just got to keep everything in perspective though, as long as you do things safely, there is no real reason to be worried.
 
Treat the storm with respect as others have said...and beware of the greatest threat...lightning. If you take this into account and take the necessary lightning precautions, there should be no real problems.
 
Happy storm watching!
 
Matt
 X-Sender: carls at ford.ace-net.com.au Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 15:49:10 +1000 To: Aussie Weather List From: Carl Smith Subject: aus-wx: TROPICAL CYCLONE 02S Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. Tropical Cyclone 02S has developed in the South Indian Ocean. My page at http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/current.htm has links to all warnings and info. Wonder how long before one develops closer to WA? Perhaps by next weekend or early next week? Regards, Carl. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia. Email: carls at ace-net.com.au Internet: http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/index.htm Current Cyclone information: http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/current.htm Cyclone Tracking Maps: http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm or: http://cyclones.50megs.com/maps/TCMaps.htm Tropical Cyclone Archives: http://cyclones.50megs.com/ Please note the new location of all archive type material and update your bookmarks and website links. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: aus-wx: Possibility of TC............. Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 15:43:32 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Carl & all.
 
You may not be far from the mark there - it really depends on the next Madden-Julian pulse which is currently located near the TC you mentioned.
 
Hopefully, as the BOM forecast it will develop the monsoon trough in the Southern Hemisphere, it will be a significant pulse to create the 1st of many Australian TC's this year......
 
Paul Mossman
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 X-Originating-IP: [203.134.67.3] From: "Rune Peitersen" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: heavy stuff & question Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:26:28 EST X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2000 06:26:28.0922 (UTC) FILETIME=[7DA2F1A0:01C04C71] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey everybody, Some pretty heavy falls starting to come through sydney at the moment, 515pm, nothing all day here and now 5mm in the last 10 minsn (some really big drops). also some thunder to the northwest up in the hawkesbury. There are green bits on the radar but i dont know how accurate they are when its such a big rainband. With all these lows and cloud bands growing over the inland is that why we have had such a cool to mild time this spring?.. Since oct 8th we havent had a day over 27C here. Something i find a little confusing is trying to understand the boms forecasts at 1130 and 330. At 1130 they say for today and tomorrow and at 330 for tonight and tomorrow, a lot of the time when they say chance tstorms i dont know if they mean for today or tomorrow, I think they should do it like the regional 4cast, and have tonight seperate!.. maybe i should try to learn the charts like most of you guys and not need to read them :)).. anyway chance tstorms and heavy falls sometime tonight or tomorrow!.. happy thunderday .. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.173.129.144] From: "Hector Pascal" To: Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Photos.. Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:39:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2000 09:49:12.0783 (UTC) FILETIME=[CFDCD5F0:01C04C8D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Have any storm chasers seen this link?
Hector
 From: "evelyn&wayne" To: "weather" Subject: aus-wx: THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:36:17 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
TO
MATT, MICHAEL, JOHN,CHRIS AND BUSSIE,
 
THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE.
 
REGARDS
 
EVELYN