X-Authentication-Warning: neumann.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:11:09 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at neumann.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wet Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well, a few spits have started here at Clayton (just below the "d" in St Kilda on the radar). I've got the lights off in the computer room and my view to the north shows no lightning. Looking at the radar seems to show the system weaking as it's tracking to the southeast....damn! Ooops, some heavy rain now at 00:11! Cheers -- Robert A. Goler E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ Department of Mathematics and Statistics Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: neumann.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:17:45 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at neumann.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wet...almost but not quite Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well, the heavy rain (10-20mm/hr) lasted all of 1 minute. Now (00:18) it's just very light rain. As the system passed, I stuck my head out of a southward facing window and managed to see a lightning flash to the southwest. Nothing more. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ Department of Mathematics and Statistics Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:32:32 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Emails. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ok guys, please tonne down the 1 liner emails. If you have something to say to someone (eg a reply to an email someone has sent), PLEASE SEND IT TO THAT PERSON, PERSONALLY. If you want to write 10 emails a day, just remember there are over 200 people on this list that the emails that receive those emails. Try and wrap the days events up in 1 or 2 emails. It makes it easier for everyone. Just try and be a bit more considerate :) IF you have any critisism, sent it to me personally. Anyway, it was great to meet up with Paul Mossman tonight in Sydney, we all had some great laughs and a good meal :) Glad Jane/Macca had a good chase around VIC tonight ! Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "McDonald" To: Subject: aus-wx: 330km evening chase in central victoria Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:35:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Evening/morning all,
 
Just got back home from a quick chase.  I'l give you  - ooooo thunder - hehehe....I'll give you a brief rundown on what I did.  Got a few updates throughout the day of storm forming in the dry slot in the W adn NW of the state this arvo and from looking at the models the previous day I knew we'd be in for at least a chance of something tonight.  ANyway - got home to find some severe advices out for NW Vic and some nice cells on radar and tracker showed some nice lightning.  After a quick feed (thanks mum) and a bit of hesitation I was out the door and on my way NW.  I  - ooooo - more thunder - hehehe - ......I headed up the Calder Hwy to Diggers Rest where I could see anvils to my NW.  I waited for Jane and we soon were barreling NW towards Bendigo chatting away on the CB radios.  Anyway - Chris Gribben and Anthony Cornelieus and whoever else rang - so many people (thank to you all) - and it turned out we were heading into a decent line of storms.  Within 5 minutes we were seeing a few flashes and 10 more minutes later it was GOING OFF!!!!! Flashes every 5 -10 seconds and then the rain.  Probably got close to 100mm/h - enough to make us - oooo - more thunder - make us pull over somewhere just near Elphinstone.....i took some ncie lightning video whilst sitting there (watching my car smke after driving at 90km/h in 4th gear - not good).  Anyway - we drove back towards melbourne after a bit and followed/sat in the storm for ages watching the barrage of lightning around us - probably got down to 15-20 flashes a minute.  I was videoing whilst driving and after hitting two large patches of minor flooding I put the camera down only to miss a CG just 400m up the road ahead of us - it had jane and me screaming at each other down the CB's - it was great fun.  Anyway - at Diggers Rest (yep - back again) we went our separate ways and I stopped, took some more video of some very nice CG's/CC's (see captures tomorrow or the next day) and then I headed home.  All in all 330km - not too bad for a late evening chase.  Would've been nice to have been out htere all day but we do have to work in order to fund these chases.  One quick thing to note - on my way home from diggers rest i was on the phone to tony middleton and a huge flash of lightning ripped across the sky in front of me - about 4 km up the road.  tony was wtaching the system from a lookout in the wonthaggi area and he saw the same falsh - over 100km away.  Nice to see we shared that moment.....ooo - more thunder....
 
Must go to bed - gotta be up in under 6 hours.
 
Andrew McDonald
 
PS - watch for captures of the lighting over the next few days and the Viccos can see some of the footage at the next meeting.
 
 
 X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:42:55 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: aus-wx: One Liner Emails Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Tony, PLEASE dont continue to do one liner emails, 6 very short emails in the past 2 hours or so is definately overboard. You're treating the list like IRC, if you want to do that, go to the Australian IRC #weather channel on austnet. For all the info on how to get to IRC on austnet go to: http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/aus-wx-chat/find.html Also, if everyone would be able to read the aussie-weather guidelines, it would be helpfull, its at: http://members.iinet.net.au/~jacob/auswx.html Thanks. Jacob (Co-list owner) At 10:44 18/10/00 +1000, you wrote: > >Hello Tony! > >18 Oct 00 22:43, I wrote to bussie: > > TL> yeah, rain (bucketing down) at craigieburn, according to my contact. > TL> :-) > >And just started raining in Niddrie at 23:44, no lightning. > >Tony, VK3JED > >.. Pardon me, sir, but are reason and logic allowed in this echo? >-- >|Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 >|Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au >| >| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:12:33 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Severe Gold Coast T'Storm Monday Night & Rain rate was Re: aus-wx: Brisbane radar Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John, I finally got a chance to go through this example last this evening...I've had lots of times where I've received falls more then radar indicates. Now here's a time when an official station receives more then radar indicates... Southport recorded 40mm between 9am Monday and 9am Tuesday...going through radar, the only precip on radar was during the storms over the Gold Coast. If I have my mapping skills correct, there was green intensity (20-40mm/hr) shown on Brisbane local radar for a time period of two radar frames. This means that it could have been as little as ten minutes, or as much as around 30 minutes. Given the the length of time I experienced the storm for, I'd say 20 minutes would have been the longest duration (I was just a few km north of Southport). This means that 40mm occurred in 20mins, when radar was showing that sort of rainfall should have occurred over the space of an hour! In reality, 120mm/hr was the rainfall rate (average)...given 40mm fell in around 20mins, this puts the storm into the severe category. For those people attending the QLD ASWA meeting this Saturday, you'll see some of the footage I took! AC John Woodbridge wrote: > > Hi Anthony, > > I agree with you that the broad scale radar overestimates something woeful. > I have seen it show pink for moderate drizzle. On the other hand, for Mt. > Crosby anyway, I have found that rainfall I get is pretty consistent with > local radar. Maybe it varies with distance from base?? One thing is for > sure, when local radar shows red, she is a severe SOB! > > John. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Meeting Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 02:01:28 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just want to say a HUGE thankyou to those great NSW guys who kept us up to 2am!! It was a fantastic night, with us not only learning more about weather, but also about our beloved President. hehehe no Jimmy I wont say anymore.......... Thanks again to Matt Smith, Matt Piper, Jimmy, John, Glen and a huge thankyou to James Pickett who dropped me back - with a couple of nice donuts thrown in for free! hehehehe Thanks heaps James!! Come to Darwin and youll get the same in return !! Paul. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Smith" To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:32 AM Subject: aus-wx: Emails. > > Ok guys, please tonne down the 1 liner emails. If you have something to > say to someone (eg a reply to an email someone has sent), > PLEASE SEND IT TO THAT PERSON, PERSONALLY. > > If you want to write 10 emails a day, just remember there are over 200 > people on this list > that the emails that receive those emails. Try and wrap the days events > up in 1 or 2 emails. > It makes it easier for everyone. > > Just try and be a bit more considerate :) IF you have any critisism, > sent it to me personally. > > Anyway, it was great to meet up with Paul Mossman tonight in Sydney, we > all had some great > laughs and a good meal :) > > Glad Jane/Macca had a good chase around VIC tonight ! > > Matt Smith > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Harald Richter Subject: aus-wx: REPORT: SA WALL CLOUD To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Australian Severe Weather Association) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:08:30 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert, Thank you for pointing out that amazing image of the 2200 UTC 02 AUG 98 ``feature.'' The estimated 8000ft (~ 2.4 km or ~ 760 hPa) cloud base is consistent with the inversion height in the 23Z Woomera and Adelaide soundings. The Woomera sounding is probably more representative for the observing location as it is closer and more upstream(ish). The dry adiabatic layer bewteen 700 and 600 hPa was conducive to dry convection which might have lifted the layers below. Air close to saturation (i.e. below the inversion) required very little forced lift to saturate, making it visible as a cloud below the cloud deck. The smooth appearance of the non-classical ``wall cloud'' shows that it was not convective, but experienced forced lifting. There are indications of rotation in the base of the inversion cloud deck. The source of that rotation might have something to do with the low-level wind shear evident in the Woomera and the Adelaide soundings AND the stretching of pre-existing vertical vorticity by ascent in the dry adiabatic layer aloft. Also, the general troughiness in the region indicates some larger-scale support for ascent. ``Classical'' wall clouds are linked to supercellular updraughts that lift low-LCL air usually originating in adjacent precipitating downdraughts. In this case the lift is probably dry-convective overturning, and the low-LCL air simply pre-existed within a capped moist PBL. Different setups can produce similar visual features using similar physical mechanisms. Cheers, Harald -- ------------------------------------------- Harald Richter NOAA/National Severe Storms Laboratory 1313 Halley Circle Norman, OK 73069, U.S.A. ph.: (405) 366-0430 fax: (405) 579-0808 email: hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov web: http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/~hrichter ------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Findlay" To: Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Detector Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 08:18:06 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://bub2.meteo.psu.edu/default.htm Heres this link again, it looks like my mail got lost. David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Lyle Pakula" To: "aus-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Upper Air charts via BOM Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:31:28 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, i was just checking out the upper air charts from the BOM and am curious as to what the associated red line is. I'm assuming it's specific humidity but the trace goes above 200mb, which i'm used to not seeing?? Also, where is the best place for *good* 850 -> 200mb maps for Oz? Thanks, Lyle. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Last 24 hours Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 06:54:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com After a very windy last 24 hours things are much calmer here at present. The wind was gusting from the NE up around the 40kmh range nearly all day, currently sitting on a sedate 10kmh from the N/NW. 17MM of rain in the last 24 hours with the bulk of it falling from about 6pm last night with some very heavy but short falls. One quick downpour that lasted only 2 minutes put down 3mm around 9pm. Currently 11C which is the coolest its been all night. Bussie (NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.90.48] From: "S G" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Excellent Adelaide weather Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 05:53:36 CST X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2000 20:23:36.0409 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B397C90:01C03941] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well we had quite a lot more rain here in Adelaide last night with some very strong winds. Conditions easing rapidly this morning. Great rainfall totals. Over 50mm in less than 48hours. About 30mm over the monthly average and we've hit over 600mm for this year, with 585mm being the average. It was more luck than anything eles that saw the rainband from Tuesday night wrap around the low and come back on Wednesday night with good moisture levels. Anyway I'm very happy with this system as I suppose many farmers will be too seeing as falls went back to Eyre Pen. as well. I'm sure some areas must have recieved some flooding though as some 48hour totals must have reached over 100mm. And is water being released from any of Adelaide's reserviors??? Heard last night that Mt Bold and Happy Valley are now full. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 06:50:51 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upper Air charts via BOM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Lyle, What is the URL for the charts to which you're referring too? Are they the BoM soundings (aerological diagrams)? If so, the red line is the most current sounding, with the blue line being the previous sounding down to that one. The right red line is the temperature profile, and the left red line is the relative humidity. Sorry if this isn't what you're referring too (but it's the only BoM chart that I ever use that has red lines in them :) AC Lyle Pakula wrote: > > Hi, > > i was just checking out the upper air charts from the BOM and am curious as > to what the associated red line is. I'm assuming it's specific humidity but > the trace goes above 200mb, which i'm used to not seeing?? > > Also, where is the best place for *good* 850 -> 200mb maps for Oz? > > Thanks, Lyle. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Canberra rain Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 07:24:28 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Canberra (Higgins 8.00am) Received 40mm from 9.00am yesterday. Moderate rain but no storms overnight. Rainband has cleared now to showers with very active congestus moving across and temp of 13.5, DP a high (for Canberra) 13. Radar shows sharp line of showers/storms to the west so could be an interesting morning - although the lightning tracker (thanks MH) shows the most lightning active part of the line moving more to the south of Canberra. Patrick +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Findlay" To: Subject: aus-wx: Weather Radar(again) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 07:40:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If you had a tornado within a certain range of reflectivity radar station would this idea work? The tornado would have debris around and in it, which would make it appear as a red dot of the radar for maximum reflectivity. Then the region around that would have less and could be a different colour, say green. Could this sort of system be used to detect tornados on normal radar? David Findlay +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Lyle Pakula" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upper Air charts via BOM Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:12:50 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Anthony,
 
yep, they're the charts i am referring too. So the left red line is *not* specific humidity? The bottom of the skew-t has mixing ratios though?
 
Thanks, Lyle

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Cornelius" <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upper Air charts via BOM

> Hi Lyle,
>
> What is the URL for the charts to which you're referring too?  Are they
> the BoM soundings (aerological diagrams)?
>
> If so, the red line is the most current sounding, with the blue line
> being the previous sounding down to that one.  The right red line is the
> temperature profile, and the left red line is the relative humidity.
>
> Sorry if this isn't what you're referring too (but it's the only BoM
> chart that I ever use that has red lines in them :)
>
> AC
>
> Lyle Pakula wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > i was just checking out the upper air charts from the BOM and am curious as
> > to what the associated red line is. I'm assuming it's specific humidity but
> > the trace goes above 200mb, which i'm used to not seeing??
> >
> > Also, where is the best place for *good* 850 -> 200mb maps for Oz?
> >
> > Thanks, Lyle.
> >
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>
> --
> Anthony Cornelius
> Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> (ASWA)
> (07) 3390 4812
> 14 Kinsella St
> Belmont, Brisbane
> QLD, 4153
> Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
> reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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> From: "Lyle Pakula" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Radar(again) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 16:40:10 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi David,
 
Les will field this one the best but for a normal weather radar the resoloution will be far too course to get that level of detail.
 
Higher resoloution radar can pick up bugs and stuff at but, you also get the wind sheer which is a sure signature of a tornado. Considering though, the centre of the tornado would probbaly not contain much degree as any debris would be quickly thrown centripetally outwards. I guess you could get a BWERD (bounded week echo region of debris) :)
 
cheers, Lyle

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    .  Department of Atmospheric Science           ^    /   \
    .  Colorado State University                 /~~~\/       \
       ph: +1-(970)-491-7785                   /    /~~~~~~~~~~~\
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Findlay" <nedz at bigpond.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 3:40 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Weather Radar(again)

> If you had a tornado within a certain range of reflectivity radar station
> would this idea work? The tornado would have debris around and in it, which
> would make it appear as a red dot of the radar for maximum reflectivity.
> Then the region around that would have less and could be a different colour,
> say green. Could this sort of system be used to detect tornados on normal
> radar?
>
> David Findlay
>
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>  message.
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> From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upper Air charts via BOM Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:02:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Lyle, > > Also, where is the best place for *good* 850 -> 200mb maps for Oz? > NOAA have a great site called READY, where you can plot charts for 14 different levels at 6 hour intervals The AVN forecasts can be found at http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready-bin/arlplot1.pl?metdata=AVN+191+km And the MRF forecasts http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready-bin/arlplot1.pl?metdata=MRF+191+km But i would recommend using AVN, as you have 6 hour charts as opposed to 12 hours with MRF, and AVN is updated 4 times daily If you want a quick rundown of the forecasts and don't have time to plot charts on the above URL's, try the PCMDI site http://www-pcmdi.llnl.gov/fiorino/wxmap/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyle Pakula" To: "aus-wx" Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 4:31 AM Subject: aus-wx: Upper Air charts via BOM > Hi, > > i was just checking out the upper air charts from the BOM and am curious as > to what the associated red line is. I'm assuming it's specific humidity but > the trace goes above 200mb, which i'm used to not seeing?? > > Also, where is the best place for *good* 850 -> 200mb maps for Oz? > > Thanks, Lyle. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Lyle Pakula" To: "aus-wx" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Weather Radar(again) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 17:19:47 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
sorry, stupid windows correcting my spelling to the wrong words...please read this edit of that msg so it makes sense :)
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Radar(again)

Hi David,
 
Les will field this one the best but, for a normal weather radar, the resoloution will be far too course to get that level of detail.
 
Higher resoloution radar can pick up bugs and stuff but as you also get the wind shear, that would be a more reliable signature to go by. Just hypothesising a little, the centre of the tornado would probbaly not contain much debris as it would be quickly thrown centripetally outwards. Hence, you would probbaly could get a BWERD (bounded week echo region of debris) if you had a debris detecting device :)
 
cheers, Lyle

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Findlay" <nedz at bigpond.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 3:40 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Weather Radar(again)

> If you had a tornado within a certain range of reflectivity radar station
> would this idea work? The tornado would have debris around and in it, which
> would make it appear as a red dot of the radar for maximum reflectivity.
> Then the region around that would have less and could be a different colour,
> say green. Could this sort of system be used to detect tornados on normal
> radar?
>
> David Findlay
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> From: David_Cornford at ansett.com.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: ANSETT To: aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:04:59 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Re: aussie-weather-digest V1 #786 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On last night's Vic rain band and storms - 7mm in my gauge at Balwyn 24 hours to 8am. Best regards, DVC _____________________________________________________________________ CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify Ansett Australia immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Ansett Australia. ABN Ansett Australia Ltd 37 004 209 410 ABN Ansett International Ltd 72 060 622 460 _____________________________________________________________________ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:57:19 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Correction! re Upper Air charts via BOM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Lyle, I made a boo boo in my last post (can I use only 2.5hrs sleep as an excuse? Stayed up too late watching the Vic storms...but I went and had another hours sleep, so can think better now ) The left red line is the dew point, not the relative humidity. You normally use the mixing ratio lines, as they assist you in plotting the LCL and the rest of the theoretical air parcel plot. You raise a parcel of air from its surface temperature via the DALR, at the same time draw a line parallel to that of the mixing ratio lines from the surface DP. Where these two lines intersect, your LCL occurs. From then on, instead of raising your surface parcel at the DALR, you raise it at our beloved SALR. (Note - LCL = Lifted Condensation Level, DALR = Dry Adiabatic Lapse Rate, SALR = Saturated Adiabatic Lapse Rate). However, you can also use it to work out the specific humidity...simply just follow the DP line back down to the bottom of the chart to work out your specific humidity. So yes, you're right! Sorry for confusing you/anyone! AC > Lyle Pakula wrote: > > Hi Anthony, > > yep, they're the charts i am referring too. So the left red line is > *not* specific humidity? The bottom of the skew-t has mixing ratios > though? > > Thanks, Lyle > > | > - -+-=[ Lyle Pakula ]=--------------------------------- -- - - > | > | Graduate Research Assistant ^ > . Department of Atmospheric Science ^ / \ > . Colorado State University /~~~\/ \ > ph: +1-(970)-491-7785 / /~~~~~~~~~~~\ > . email: lyle at atmos.colostate.edu / / \ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anthony Cornelius" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 2:50 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upper Air charts via BOM > > > Hi Lyle, > > > > What is the URL for the charts to which you're referring too? Are > they > > the BoM soundings (aerological diagrams)? > > > > If so, the red line is the most current sounding, with the blue line > > being the previous sounding down to that one. The right red line is > the > > temperature profile, and the left red line is the relative humidity. > > > > Sorry if this isn't what you're referring too (but it's the only BoM > > chart that I ever use that has red lines in them :) > > > > AC > > > > Lyle Pakula wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > i was just checking out the upper air charts from the BOM and am > curious as > > > to what the associated red line is. I'm assuming it's specific > humidity but > > > the trace goes above 200mb, which i'm used to not seeing?? > > > > > > Also, where is the best place for *good* 850 -> 200mb maps for Oz? > > > > > > Thanks, Lyle. > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > (ASWA) > > (07) 3390 4812 > > 14 Kinsella St > > Belmont, Brisbane > > QLD, 4153 > > Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe > thunderstorm > > reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [141.132.130.125] From: "Leslie Baxter" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Light Show LAst night- Ballarat Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:39:08 GMT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2000 00:39:08.0595 (UTC) FILETIME=[FDEB6830:01C03964] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well the Duck has been broken, we had a nice light show last night, some nice deep rumbles, but unfortuanatally we got side swipped and got very little rainfall, rather breezy; downdraughts?, when the storms came close by. I'd say the storm would have been good through Daylesford. Well there is still a chance for more today, sytill very mild outside, with little or any wind. LEs Nice Cu Congesteous to the east _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Geelong Weather Services" To: Subject: aus-wx: funnel cloud over Geelong Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:03:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Funnel cloud seen over western suburbs of Geelong (Bell Post Hill) around 12.30-12.45 pm. Swirling clouds with funnel extending from base. I have had reports now from 4 separate areas and expect more. Intense th'storm showing on radar. Going to have a look. Lindsay Smail. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:16:43 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: STA for Sydney ! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com STA has been issued for Sydney/Illawarra/Central Tablelands. Small storm near Maruya at the moment but nothing in Sydney *yet* :) I thought the BoM usually issued these after storms developed.... oh well TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 1246 on Thursday the 19th of October 2000 This advice affects people in the following weather districts: Sydney Metropolitan Central Tablelands Illawarra Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area this afternoon. Some of these may be severe bringing large hailstones, damaging winds and very heavy rainfall. Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upper Air charts via BOM Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 03:09:14 GMT X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id WAA14410 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Left trace is dew point, not RH. Laurier On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 06:50:51 +1000, Anthony Cornelius wrote: >Hi Lyle, > >What is the URL for the charts to which you're referring too? Are they >the BoM soundings (aerological diagrams)? > >If so, the red line is the most current sounding, with the blue line >being the previous sounding down to that one. The right red line is the >temperature profile, and the left red line is the relative humidity. > >Sorry if this isn't what you're referring too (but it's the only BoM >chart that I ever use that has red lines in them :) > >AC > >Lyle Pakula wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> i was just checking out the upper air charts from the BOM and am curious as >> to what the associated red line is. I'm assuming it's specific humidity but >> the trace goes above 200mb, which i'm used to not seeing?? >> >> Also, where is the best place for *good* 850 -> 200mb maps for Oz? >> >> Thanks, Lyle. >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Queensland flood history Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 03:17:58 GMT X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id WAA17243 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The Queensland Flood Warning Centre of the Bureau of Meteorology has just put onto the Bureau's web site a very detailed set of pages giving some neat graphics of current rainfall. Of particular interest are the flood histories for each river basin, with the one for the Brisbane River going back to the earliest settlement. The direct link is http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/qld/inside/flood/flood.shtml -- Laurier Williams Australian Weather News & Links http://ausweather.simplenet.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upper Air charts via BOM Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 03:21:22 GMT X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id WAA17458 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Oops. Sorry, Anthony. Just caught up with your later post. Duh! Laurier On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 03:09:14 GMT, wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) wrote: >Left trace is dew point, not RH. > >Laurier > > >On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 06:50:51 +1000, Anthony Cornelius > wrote: > >>Hi Lyle, >> >>What is the URL for the charts to which you're referring too? Are they >>the BoM soundings (aerological diagrams)? >> >>If so, the red line is the most current sounding, with the blue line >>being the previous sounding down to that one. The right red line is the >>temperature profile, and the left red line is the relative humidity. >> >>Sorry if this isn't what you're referring too (but it's the only BoM >>chart that I ever use that has red lines in them :) >> >>AC >> >>Lyle Pakula wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> i was just checking out the upper air charts from the BOM and am curious as >>> to what the associated red line is. I'm assuming it's specific humidity but >>> the trace goes above 200mb, which i'm used to not seeing?? >>> >>> Also, where is the best place for *good* 850 -> 200mb maps for Oz? >>> >>> Thanks, Lyle. >>> >>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>> message. >>> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Bright start Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:07:52 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com After a bright start to the day this morning at daybreak without a cloud in sight, by 10am this morning it started to drizzle on and off until about 1pm. We have now had some very heavy showers with 7mm recorded in the last half hour or so here, and still raining steadily. Currently about 13C with a 15kmh SSWer. Bussie (NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: STA for Sydney ! Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:48:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2652.78) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Excellent, might happen just in time for me to ride home from work. But due to no internet access would appreciate an eyes up if there is anything approaching the Illawarra/Wollongong area, or the Picton/Camden area. SMS message on 0418 671 851 would suffice, as I am fairly well blind until I leave work at around 3:30pm. Now it's our turn for some action!! 35mm and digital cameras are ready to go. Andrew Godsman PS > Small storm near Maruya at the moment but nothing in Sydney *yet* :) > Do you mean on the south coast, south of Batemans Bay, by Maruya?? EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify postmaster at bhp.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.8.232.5] From: "Patrick Tobin" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: STW for Melbourne, Nth Vic Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 03:22:04 GMT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2000 03:22:04.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0B67EC0:01C0397B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We now have the unusual situation of both Melbourne and Sydney both being covered by Severe Thunderstorm warnings/advices (although Sydney's is an Advice rather than Warning at the moment. Also Nth Central and NE Vic have joined the fun. Happy storm watching all. Patrick (shortly awaiting the arrival of the wrap-around cloud into Canberra) IDW16V00 BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST Severe Thunderstorm Advice Issued at 2:10pm on Thursday the 19th of October 2000 for the North Central and Northeast districts. Thunderstorms have developed within the last hour over the North Central and Northeast districts and are expected to persist through the afternoon. These storms are slow moving and expected to produce flash flooding. Hail to about 2cm diameter is also considered possible. This advice is valid until 8.00pm Thursday 19th October and should not be used after this time. BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST Severe Thunderstorm Advice Issued at 2:10pm on Thursday the 19th of October 2000 for the North Central and Northeast districts. Thunderstorms have developed within the last hour over the North Central and Northeast districts and are expected to persist through the afternoon. These storms are slow moving and expected to produce flash flooding. Hail to about 2cm diameter is also considered possible. This advice is valid until 8.00pm Thursday 19th October and should not be used after this time. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.8.232.5] From: "Patrick Tobin" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: STW for Melbourne (2) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 03:36:24 GMT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2000 03:36:24.0760 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1916380:01C0397D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Oops.. here is the warning covering Melbourne and Geelong. I am looking forward to the accounts of today's activity... NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST Severe Thunderstorm Warning for Geelong and the Melbourne Metropolitan area Issued at 2:27pm on Thursday the 19th of October 2000 Thunderstorms are active over the Geelong area and also northern and eastern suburbs of Melbourne. Local Flash flooding has been reported and is expected to continue over the next two hours. Hail is also possible up to about 2cm diameter. This warning will be reviewed at 4.30pm and should not be used after that time. [ Radio media to play Severe Weather News Tag Alert 4 here ] The current thunderstorm warning, issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, indicates the strong probability of intense storm activity in this area. In the interests of community safety the SES suggests some simple precautions: - secure any loose objects in the vicinity of your home, then: - stay indoors if possible - if you are outdoors, avoid sheltering under trees - listen to the radio station for the storm updates - switch off computers and electrical appliances -- _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: aus-wx: Possible Severe Storm in Adelaide Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:52:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I heard on the radio just recently that there has been a severe storm in Adelaide overnight. Has anyone further information? It was reported that some significant damage was occaisoned. Hoping that Sydney gets somehting soon! Paul. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mm_de at postoffice.utas.edu.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:07:33 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Miguel de Salas Subject: aus-wx: Hook echo? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Is that a hook echo on the Melbourne local radar at 3:40 UTC 19/10/00??? It sure looks good!!! :) Miguel de Salas mailto:mm_de at postoffice.utas.edu.au School of Plant Science, University of Tasmania, GPO Box 252-55, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia, 7001. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: STW for Melbourne (2) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:26:24 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Oops.. here is the warning covering Melbourne and Geelong. > > I am looking forward to the accounts of today's activity... > > NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST > Watching some very impressive stuff from our northern window. Radar shows an area of intense activity north of Melbourne Airport, plus other areas to the east and west. Most of the action is happening north of central Melbourne, although a brief storm at lunchtime dropped 4mm in about 20 minutes. Not many impressive rainfall totals as yet, but I suspect most of the serious action is in AWS-free zones. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ross Portas" To: Subject: aus-wx: Photo: Gold Coast Mon 16/10 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:29:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Just got some pics back from the camera shop and a 90 sec exposure from Monday night on the Gold Coast came out quite nice. http://bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/rosco/16-10-200001.html Unfortunately, there was only 3 exposures left on my film after the Indy on the weekend so I didn't get a chance to try for some of the nice cg's that were around. Cheers, Rosco. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: aus-wx: Geelong Tornado! Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:13:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello all,
    Well, what an exiting day for us Victorians and NSW residents. Watching thunderstorms consistently roll through from the N all night and the sweet glissining sound of thunder as well as a bloody great light show, I was awaken by the loud crack of thunder at about 2-3 am. Lightning was amazing, almost constant.
    Anyway, moving on, just got back from school where we received a severe storm warning advising us to leave school at once and return home. From a number of sources, I have come to the realization that an apparent tornado occured in Geelong causing quite a considerable amount of damage. A news brief just came on showing some great footage of the apparent tornado. Can anyone else confirm? Lindsay?
 From: Blair Trewin Subject: aus-wx: Heavy rain in northern WA To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:26:08 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some heavy rain yesterday in northern Western Australia, with 143.6mm at Lissadell and numerous other totals over 50mm. This is notably heavy for this early in the season. I imagine (but haven't checked) that many individual stations have set October records, although there have been higher totals in the region as a whole before; in 1975 Glenroy got 150.2 mm in a day, and Lansdowne 257.3 mm for the month (Lissadell is currently at 191). The WA October daily record appears to be 200.7 mm (I say 'appears to be' because there are some data quality aspects to that observation, from 1910, that I haven't investigated in full yet). Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Rodney Aikman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bendigo Storm Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:28:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Greg et al. Certainly was a spectacular sound and light show; for about 40 minutes we were entertained by lightning strikes every 1-3 seconds (just about all cloud-cloud) and incessant thunder. Although it was electrically very active, it was by no means severe, with no significant hail to mention, no strong wind, and only 13mm of rain over the course of the storm. Rod Aikman -----Original Message----- From: Greg Browning To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 10:41 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bendigo Storm >Hi Rod and all >Just heard from a Bendigo mate that a spectacular light show was had by >all. The convective system which was the cause of this TS seems to be >strengthening and expanding. If all goes well a few Melbournians will >be awakened by the sweet sound of nearby thunder. The BOM has issued a >garden-variety TS warning for the Melb. metro area > >sweet dreams > Greg Browning >Mulgrave, Vic > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.88.48] From: "S G" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Possible Severe Storm in Adelaide Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:03:11 CST X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2000 06:33:11.0848 (UTC) FILETIME=[73E29280:01C03996] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If by a severe storm you mean lightning and thunder etc. then no there was no severe thunderstorm that I was aware of last night. Instead there was heaps of rain and very strong winds, southern suburbs had blackouts and the Southern Expressway was reported to be shut down due to this blackout. There weather has eased a lot now but many of our reserviours are full, which is very unusual for Adelaide and some creeks are flowing high. Over 50mm in less than 48hours. We are now 30mm over the average and about another 30mm over our yearly average which is all great. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Geelong Tornado! To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:37:51 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C039EF.E1F0DE40 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hello all, > Well, what an exiting day for us Victorians and NSW residents. = > Watching thunderstorms consistently roll through from the N all night = > and the sweet glissining sound of thunder as well as a bloody great = > light show, I was awaken by the loud crack of thunder at about 2-3 am. = > Lightning was amazing, almost constant.=20 > Anyway, moving on, just got back from school where we received a = > severe storm warning advising us to leave school at once and return = > home. From a number of sources, I have come to the realization that an = > apparent tornado occured in Geelong causing quite a considerable amount = > of damage. A news brief just came on showing some great footage of the = > apparent tornado. Can anyone else confirm? Lindsay? Sending you home seems a strange thing to do - I would have thought a school would be a safer place to be than most (or are your buildings that flimsy?). Blair Trewin > ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C039EF.E1F0DE40 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > >
Hello all,
>
    Well, what an = > exiting day for us=20 > Victorians and NSW residents. Watching thunderstorms consistently roll = > through=20 > from the N all night and the sweet glissining sound of thunder as well = > as a=20 > bloody great light show, I was awaken by the loud crack of thunder at = > about 2-3=20 > am. Lightning was amazing, almost constant.
>
    Anyway, moving on, = > just got back=20 > from school where we received a severe storm warning advising us to = > leave school=20 > at once and return home. From a number of sources, I have come to the=20 > realization that an apparent tornado occured in Geelong causing quite a=20 > considerable amount of damage. A news brief just came on showing some = > great=20 > footage of the apparent tornado. Can anyone else confirm?=20 > Lindsay?
> > ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C039EF.E1F0DE40-- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:52:35 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: aus-wx: Kiama / Shellharbour storm Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I look forward to the reports from our Illawarra storm observers from this afternoon after a significant looking cell (from radar) went through ! I have saved two 64km hires radar loops off the Olympics site: One hour loop to 4.40pm local: http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/200010190540.gif One hour loop to 5.40pm local: http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/200010190640.gif regards, Michael ============================================================= Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ NE NSW Australia http://www.lightningphotography.com/ ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ============================================================= +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: chris.nitsopoulos at jcu.edu.au X-Authentication-Warning: brutus.jcu.edu.au: nobody set sender to jc124783 at jcu.edu.au using -f To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heavy rain in northern WA,, Climate change Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:59:30 +1000 (EST) User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 203.21.231.216 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Blair and everyone I asked this question before, but am wondering, could this be the beginning of a new harsher monsoonal season for the north. For the last 4-5 years there have been above average falls in Northern Australia, could we be seeing some of the effects of global climate change beginning to occur or have the last few years been flukes? CHEERS: NIPPER Quoting Blair Trewin : > Some heavy rain yesterday in northern Western Australia, with 143.6mm > at Lissadell and numerous other totals over 50mm. > > This is notably heavy for this early in the season. > > The WA October daily record appears to be 200.7 mm (I say 'appears > to be' because there are some data quality aspects to that observation, > from 1910, +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Findlay" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Geelong Tornado! Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:34:52 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Any pictures? what F rating? Any injuries?
 
David
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Dean Sgarbossa
Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2000 5:13 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Geelong Tornado!

Hello all,
    Well, what an exiting day for us Victorians and NSW residents. Watching thunderstorms consistently roll through from the N all night and the sweet glissining sound of thunder as well as a bloody great light show, I was awaken by the loud crack of thunder at about 2-3 am. Lightning was amazing, almost constant.
    Anyway, moving on, just got back from school where we received a severe storm warning advising us to leave school at once and return home. From a number of sources, I have come to the realization that an apparent tornado occured in Geelong causing quite a considerable amount of damage. A news brief just came on showing some great footage of the apparent tornado. Can anyone else confirm? Lindsay?
 From: "Peter Newham" To: Subject: aus-wx: re: Vic tornadoe. Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:21:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at around 5:25pm we saw what we thought was a tornadoe touching the ground to the west of Kilmore, looking from the BOM building.....can anyone else confirm this???? Not much on 2D or 3D radar??? pete -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Bath Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2000 17:53 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Kiama / Shellharbour storm Hi all, I look forward to the reports from our Illawarra storm observers from this afternoon after a significant looking cell (from radar) went through ! I have saved two 64km hires radar loops off the Olympics site: One hour loop to 4.40pm local: http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/200010190540.gif One hour loop to 5.40pm local: http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/200010190640.gif regards, Michael ============================================================= Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ NE NSW Australia http://www.lightningphotography.com/ ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ============================================================= +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heavy rain in northern WA,, Climate change To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:24:46 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hi Blair and everyone > > I asked this question before, but am wondering, could this be the > beginning of a new harsher monsoonal season for the north. For the last 4-5 > years there have been above average falls in Northern Australia, could we be > seeing some of the effects of global climate change beginning to occur or have > the last few years been flukes? > CHEERS: NIPPER There is certainly a strongly increasing trend in summer rainfall in the northern half of Western Australia over the last 40 years or so. I haven't investigated whether or not this is statistically significant. (I also suspect - and this would be an interesting line of research for someone to follow up - that the southern boundary of the summer rainfall zone in WA has moved substantially southwards over that time). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Geelong Weather Services" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Geelong Tornado! Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:48:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
As someone said "News of our tornado has been greatly exaggerated."  Geelong experienced several spectacular funnel clouds, forming then dissipating, over and over, between 12.30 pm and 2 pm today.  Some good footage on TV and picture in tomorrow's Geelong Advertiser.  Forming mainly over the urban area, I think most people were so excited at seeing a possible tornado that rumours were spread pretty quickly.  Clear rotation and definitely something to draw our attention to the increasingly frequent occurrences of severe storms in this area, but not a tornado! Sorry to disappoint you, but no injuries, no damage and no F rating. Lindsay Smail.
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of David Findlay
Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2000 4:35 PM
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Any pictures? what F rating? Any injuries?
 
David
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Dean Sgarbossa
Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2000 5:13 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Geelong Tornado!

Hello all,
    Well, what an exiting day for us Victorians and NSW residents. Watching thunderstorms consistently roll through from the N all night and the sweet glissining sound of thunder as well as a bloody great light show, I was awaken by the loud crack of thunder at about 2-3 am. Lightning was amazing, almost constant.
    Anyway, moving on, just got back from school where we received a severe storm warning advising us to leave school at once and return home. From a number of sources, I have come to the realization that an apparent tornado occured in Geelong causing quite a considerable amount of damage. A news brief just came on showing some great footage of the apparent tornado. Can anyone else confirm? Lindsay?
 X-Originating-IP: [198.142.93.75] From: "Shaun Whelan" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Nowra Wx Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:11:10 EST X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2000 08:11:10.0753 (UTC) FILETIME=[23FC4910:01C039A4] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well, what an interesting day. It started off with drizzle/rain to clear around lunch time with about 4/8 of Cu moving pretty quickly. It was building and collapsing quite fast with the occasional anvil forming only to be quickly dissipated. Then around 1400 we had a really heavy fall for about 5 mins (with some sun) clearing to about 2-3/8. I don't know how heavy the precip was but it filled the gutters and was streaming off the road. When the sun came out the road steamed and it got quite warm/muggy for a while. Took 15 mins for the road to dry. No thunder to speak of although you could see the system up around Wollygong (still can, but out to sea) but not Moruya. Maybe something later on tonight will get interesting. All I got now is a pretty sunset, some fairly nice cloud to the WNW and the Minister for Household Affairs in my ear. Waiting for..... Shaun Nowra _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Godsman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Kiama / Shellharbour storm Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:00:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well, well, well, It would seem that the Illawarra was the pick for the NSW coast today. I noticed at 2:30, while making any excuse to leave the office with the digital camera, that the day seemed to be setting up in a very similar fashion to the severe hail storm that swept the area on August 1st. The was a very strong, moist NNE wind, with some low cloud formations along the escarpment, building in some areas into congestus, which was being sheared in a SE direction. Anyway, 3:30 came, and as I wheeled my bike to the change rooms I could see the scene was very dark down around the Shellharbour/Kiama regions, with obvious cumulous towers in the area. At that stage it didn't seem to be very precipitous, but it was very hard to make out with all the steelworks discharges heading in the same direction. I rode home as fast as posible, which was not fast considering there was probably 40-50km of headwind the whole way. Checked the radar, and didn't even take the time to shut down the computer before being out the door. I headed straight down towards Shellharbour the scene was very ominous. There was what appeared to be a shelf cloud formation under the cloud base. On the western side of the main storm area was a good inflow of scud, which was being picked up from ground level from near the escarpment near Albion Park/Yellowrock area. I took a couple of pics on the drive across Windang bridge by holding the digital camera out the car window and over the roof. Got a few interesting looks to say the least!! As I pulled up at Warilla beach it was apparent that the main action area had already passed out to sea to my SE. I noticed an area of intense shear, which basically ran SE to NW from the storms out at sea, to an area firing up near the escarpment. It appeared very much like a cool change, with scud racing into the zone, then rising very rapidly (almost in a vertical line). When it was clear that this line wasn't moving my way I headed west towards the new development. Paul Mosman would be quite jealous of the torrential rain and wind gusts as I drove through Oak Flats (yes Griffith Street). The rain at this point was getting about as heavy as I was comfortable driving at normal speed in. I would definately say getting up towards 40+mm/hr. Radar seemed to confirm later. I continued west until I got to Marshal Mount where I broke into brilliant sunshine. The rain was heavy all the way to the back end. Again the line of intense uplift of scud was still there. I noticed some lift from basically ground level less than 1km in front of me, and within half a minute would've been over 1km from the ground. I took a couple of pics of the back end of the storm, which was the last of it for us, before heading north and east to get to Hill 60. I should mention that lightning discharge on AM radio was fairly steady at about every 10-15 seconds. Again the view from Hill 60 was quite good. Not much in the way of anvil to se, but I was looking onto the edge of the line which was lifting the low cloud almost into a vertical line. It then seemed to twist back towards the SW, before the anvil that I could see forming was heading SE. Got a few good pics on the digital camera and observed a few CG's out at sea at about 10-15secs apart. The outcome of all this was a lot of heavy rain, it would not seem any hail, although the line was a lot more intense over land (by radar) earlier than I could've made it there, and around the Kiama area at my best guess. But it was very interesting to observe this line of bigtime uplift, which I'm sure I would be wrong by suggesting some sought of local scale trough line. When I was at the beach there was definately inflow into this region of uplift from both a NE and SSW direction, which was what had me thinking southerly change. Probably a little disappointing about the lack of lightning over land as well. But, can't complain, better than most of NSW got today. Send some more of that SA and Vic weather this way will ya!! Andrew Godsman +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Matters" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: re: Vic tornadoe. Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:26:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I live at Broadford (15 klms to the north). At the time, there was steady drizzle at Broadford, no wind, no lightning/thunder. We have not heard thunder here since 00.00 esdt this morning. Hope this helps. Please contact me if more info is needed. PS. I did not see the cloud, as the wx was calm(I was not looking for anything of interest). Cheers Peter Matters --Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Peter Newham Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2000 18:21 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: re: Vic tornadoe. at around 5:25pm we saw what we thought was a tornadoe touching the ground to the west of Kilmore, looking from the BOM building.....can anyone else confirm this???? Not much on 2D or 3D radar??? pete -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Bath Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2000 17:53 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Kiama / Shellharbour storm Hi all, I look forward to the reports from our Illawarra storm observers from this afternoon after a significant looking cell (from radar) went through ! I have saved two 64km hires radar loops off the Olympics site: One hour loop to 4.40pm local: http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/200010190540.gif One hour loop to 5.40pm local: http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/200010190640.gif regards, Michael ============================================================= Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ NE NSW Australia http://www.lightningphotography.com/ ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ============================================================= +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 01:50:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Boskell Subject: aus-wx: Northern Tassie Storms To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day All, Slow moving Thunderstorm(s) passing SE of Devonport - not much on the radar but still nice to hear some thunder again. Got some nice photo's of Cb's in the sunset. Look's like Launceston's getting this one :-( Regards, Andrew. ===== Andrew Boskell "Some people are weather wise, others are otherwise!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 19 Oct 00 19:12:31 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: STW for Melbourne (2) Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Blair! 19 Oct 00 15:26, you wrote to All: >> I am looking forward to the accounts of today's activity... >> >> NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST >> BT> BT> Watching some very impressive stuff from our northern window. BT> Radar shows an area of intense activity north of Melbourne Airport, BT> plus other areas to the east and west. Most of the action is happening BT> north of central Melbourne, although a brief storm at lunchtime BT> dropped 4mm in about 20 minutes. BT> BT> Not many impressive rainfall totals as yet, but I suspect most of BT> the serious action is in AWS-free zones. A good dumping of rain from around 12:40 in Melbourne (city) today. The heavy rain lasted for over an hour, with thunder and lightning for the first 5-10 minutes (though hard to tell when stuck inside a modern office block :( ). Tony, VK3JED .. Lurkers Beware! You are about to embark on a Fun Filled Journey!!! -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 19 Oct 00 19:08:12 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bendigo Storm Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Rodney! 19 Oct 00 17:28, you wrote to All: RA> Certainly was a spectacular sound and light show; RA> for about 40 minutes we were entertained by lightning strikes every RA> 1-3 seconds (just about all cloud-cloud) and incessant thunder. RA> Although it was electrically very active, it was by no means severe, RA> with no significant hail to mention, no strong wind, and only 13mm of RA> rain over the course of the storm. Rod Aikman Turned out to be a fizzer here (Niddrie). It was more exciting following the storm's track, with the help of a fello ham on a hill with good visibility (I posted the live reports last night). When the storm arrived at 23:45, it started as heavy rain, then 1 flash of lightning (around 2-3km away), then nothing but steady rain for the next 30 mins. :-( As I said, a real fizzer, though the rain was welcome. Tony, VK3JED .. ask questions the smartest man cannot answer. -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Geelong Tornado! Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:35:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Blair, I would agree with you. However, the time the school actually received the STW, it was just about the end of school anyway. They just let us go about 5 min. earlier than usual and cautioned us. The school was abandoned by about 4pm. Personally, I was absolutely rapped to hear the announcement. I sprinted out of class and headed to the best lookout I could find. Unfortunately, the storms never hit the school :). I was hoping for some great photos since I constantly keep my Kestrel 3000 and camera on me at all times. Cheers Blair, Deano ----- Original Message ----- From: Blair Trewin To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 4:37 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Geelong Tornado! > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C039EF.E1F0DE40 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Hello all, > > Well, what an exiting day for us Victorians and NSW residents. = > > Watching thunderstorms consistently roll through from the N all night = > > and the sweet glissining sound of thunder as well as a bloody great = > > light show, I was awaken by the loud crack of thunder at about 2-3 am. = > > Lightning was amazing, almost constant.=20 > > Anyway, moving on, just got back from school where we received a = > > severe storm warning advising us to leave school at once and return = > > home. From a number of sources, I have come to the realization that an = > > apparent tornado occured in Geelong causing quite a considerable amount = > > of damage. A news brief just came on showing some great footage of the = > > apparent tornado. Can anyone else confirm? Lindsay? > > Sending you home seems a strange thing to do - I would have thought > a school would be a safer place to be than most (or are your buildings > that flimsy?). > > Blair Trewin > > ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C039EF.E1F0DE40 > > Content-Type: text/html; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > > > > > > >
Hello all,
> >
    Well, what an = > > exiting day for us=20 > > Victorians and NSW residents. Watching thunderstorms consistently roll = > > through=20 > > from the N all night and the sweet glissining sound of thunder as well = > > as a=20 > > bloody great light show, I was awaken by the loud crack of thunder at = > > about 2-3=20 > > am. Lightning was amazing, almost constant.
> >
    Anyway, moving on, = > > just got back=20 > > from school where we received a severe storm warning advising us to = > > leave school=20 > > at once and return home. From a number of sources, I have come to the=20 > > realization that an apparent tornado occured in Geelong causing quite a=20 > > considerable amount of damage. A news brief just came on showing some = > > great=20 > > footage of the apparent tornado. Can anyone else confirm?=20 > > Lindsay?
> > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C039EF.E1F0DE40-- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 18 Oct 00 22:47:47 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wet Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Tony! 18 Oct 00 22:44, I wrote to me: TL> And just started raining in Niddrie at 23:44, no lightning. Hmm, lightning started here at 23:46, around 2km away, not frequent flashes, but they're happening. Might have to pull the pin here i think (only problem when the storm gets that close :) ). Tony, VK3JED .. ain -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:51:28 +1000 From: Jane ONeill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie-wx Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne images Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, I've put up some digicam & webcam images of Melbourne today as well as a couple of radar loops. The pics taken looking SW at 12.30pm show (but not very clearly unfortunately), a cumulus with a rockhard updraft in the general direction of Geelong - I wonder??? http://www.stormchasers.au.com/19_10_00.htm There are more images coming over the next couple of days. Today, all I wanted to do was be outside in it - but had to make do with spending my time between the office, up on the roof, walking around the building, the webcam & up on the hill.........sharing the excitement of it all with Macca, Anthony, Lindsay, Tony & Hamish. Thanks all!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [129.94.6.29] From: "James Pickett" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: 'Passing Thunderstorms' Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:09:25 GMT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2000 10:09:25.0964 (UTC) FILETIME=[A90F90C0:01C039B4] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day list, Just a little curious into where those 'passing thunderstorms' forecast for Sydney have got to. Didn't realize that a storm in the Illawarra meant a passing t'storm for Sydney! I mean c'mon guys where are they? Sydney radar atm(2100)looks as exciting as my brick wall, then again i suppose you could always watch grass grow! Anyway good to see some action down there! Hope i eat my words tonight!Ha James P. (watching the passing thunderstorms with the rest of Sydney) IDF00N00 METROPOLITAN FORECAST BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 3:30pm on Thursday the 19th of October 2000 Sydney Metropolitan: For Tonight and Friday Partly cloudy with passing thunderstorms this evening. Dry and sunny at first Friday, cloud increasing during the afternoon with showers developing Friday night. Cool to mild. Moderate to fresh and gusty north to northeast winds ahead of a gusty westerly change overnight. Moderate southwest winds Friday, shifting southeast during the afternoon. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Godsman" To: Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Pessimism Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:02:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Good evening all,
 
Given most of us have now encountered some form of good weather in the past few weeks, or in the monsoon area, are seeing good signs of an early build-up, the following url which was sent to me by a good friend who likes to remind me of the often futile hopes of a good storm.
 
 
It has modified versions of those inspirational images that are titled with words like COURAGE, and a few further inspirational words underneath.
 
Well, the one that has captured my attention is titled PESSIMISM, the image shows a fairly spectacular storm with a funnel on the ground, and a couple of transposed CG's on it. One side of the cloud is dark purple, the other golden bright. Anyway, the inscribed words of wisdom for pessimism are:
"Every dark cloud has a silver lining, but lightning kills hundreds each year who are trying to find it."
Well, it humoured me, given the context that the other images set in. Next time I'm off doing my best to be a lightning rod, with camera in hand, I'll remember this little saying.
 
Andrew Godsman
 
 From: "Dane Newman" To: Subject: aus-wx: Back Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:24:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all back on the list after moving to Tawonga south just outside Mt Beauty. Pretty chaotic move but things are sorting themselves out now. New e-mail address is dpn at netc.net.au. Still some snow visable on Mt Bogong. Weather 55.4mm of rain in the 24 hours to 9am here with some lightning mostly cc and thunder at around 3am this morning. Nothing like the excitement in Melbourne and Geelong though. More later, Dane (Tawonga Sth-NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Geelong and Cranbourne funnels. Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:39:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
The Geelong funnel cloud was spectacular with a small rotating wall cloud and even a slight hind of a clear slot wrapping around!.The storm spawning the funnel/funnels was most rare for this region with the flanking line to the south and the storm rain area moving north(slowly).This severe multicell developed along a convergence line on the southwest flank of a small low pressure system ,topographical enhancement by complex convergence to the north east of the Otways may also have had some influence.The updraft pulse above the funnel area was very large with a solid hard looking overshoot with very rounded features,surface temperatures reached 19 to 21c over this region with the 500hpa at -23c there appears to have been a strong lapse rate potential.......more to come later....Also several small funnels developed in the Cranbourne area between 1345hrs and 1410hrs,the first funnel was rather large and dissipated after 2minutes unfortunately I was not able to photograph this one, however I managed to photograph a weaker second funnel from near Chelsea, this funnel lasted about 3minutes and was small,all activity in the Cranbourne area was under a strong congesting cumulus that later glaciated to produce a shower east of that area.regards Clyve Herbert.
 From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Back Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:42:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dane . Welcome back and I hope you enjoy your new view!. regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dane Newman To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 9:24 PM Subject: aus-wx: Back > Hi all back on the list after moving to Tawonga south just outside Mt > Beauty. Pretty chaotic move but things are sorting themselves out now. New > e-mail address is dpn at netc.net.au. Still some snow visable on Mt Bogong. > Weather 55.4mm of rain in the 24 hours to 9am here with some lightning > mostly cc and thunder at around 3am this morning. Nothing like the > excitement in Melbourne and Geelong though. More later, Dane (Tawonga Sth-NE > Victoria) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:01:05 -0400 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Radar(again) To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id IAA15685 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com David wrote: > If you had a tornado within a certain range of reflectivity radar station > would this idea work? The tornado would have debris around and in it, which > would make it appear as a red dot of the radar for maximum reflectivity. > Then the region around that would have less and could be a different colour, > say green. Could this sort of system be used to detect tornados on normal > radar? Unless the distance between the radar and the tornado is small and unless there are sources for considerable debris, tornadoes are not usually detectable via conventional radar. However, there have been other signatures used. The hook (or pendant) echoes are more often seen on low-levels along with the closely associated Bounded Weak Echo Region aloft, although they are not the tornado itself. The hook is a portion of the precipitation surrounding the BWER that descends (in the Rear Flank Downdraft) to the surface. The tornado is positioned within the bulb-like end of the hook and in the strong vertical velocity gradient between the RFD and the strong updraft. In a few cases when the radar is near a large tornado, a circular high reflectivity echo core can bee seen within the end of the hook. Above this echo core further aloft, a small circular weakness or hole can sometimes be detected. In other rare cases, and under similar circumstances, the echo weak hole can be detected in low-levels. However, it is only in the cases of large, strong, tornadoes positioned near the scanning radar can these rare signatures been seen. Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Phone: 816-373-3533, cell: 816-213-3237 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "McDonald" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: re: Vic tornadoe. Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:54:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have video footage which you may be interested in although I'm 100% certain it wasn't in the Kilmore area although I'm pretty sure was around that time. I'm not sure if it was a tornado or not - its hard to tell but we'll see what others think. If you'd like to contact me on this email address we can arrange a time and a place. I'll be taking captures off the video tomorrow night and I'll send them to Jane O'Neill for posting to the Melbourne Storm Chasers web site when she has time. I'm sure she'll email the list when she updates her page over the coming few weeks. Andrew McDonald. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Newham To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:21 PM Subject: aus-wx: re: Vic tornadoe. > at around 5:25pm we saw what we thought was a tornadoe touching the ground > to the west of Kilmore, looking from the BOM building.....can anyone else > confirm this???? Not much on 2D or 3D radar??? > > pete > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Bath > Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2000 17:53 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: Kiama / Shellharbour storm > > > Hi all, > > I look forward to the reports from our Illawarra storm observers from this > afternoon after a significant looking cell (from radar) went through ! > > I have saved two 64km hires radar loops off the Olympics site: > > One hour loop to 4.40pm local: > http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/200010190540.gif > > One hour loop to 5.40pm local: > http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/200010190640.gif > > regards, Michael > > ============================================================= > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ > NE NSW Australia http://www.lightningphotography.com/ > ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > ============================================================= > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p76-max41.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.145.142] claimed to be storm.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:21:12 +1000 To: Aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Illawarra storm Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I came home after a great observation session/chase this afternoon. Unfortunately, Sydney disappointed again so from a chase point of view it wasn't great. As the storm was moving too fast, I could see it was going to be off the coast by late afternoon and from reports it was. But the storms were spectacular. The updraughts were very powerful and shot straight up and more developed on the back end. This formed the second storm. Now to me this reminded me of the structure of the supercell on March 9th this year. I wouldn't be surprised from the satellite picture imagery and also the veering slightly to the left of the mean level wind direction that this storm could be a supercell. I think doppler imagery could confirm that. IT also occurred in the vicinity of the right exit region of the upper level jet. There was dry cold air aloft and hail was evident especially off the coast although I wouldn't rule out smaller hail over land. I can say that this storm was well covered by chasers from Sydney and the Illawarra. Some were nearer or almost right under the storms whilst we had an outside view of the event. All in all a spectacular severe thunderstorm. Thanks for the constant updates and communication guys. ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------