Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:09:05 -0400 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mini/weak tornadoes To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id KAA14154 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Clyve wrote: > Hi Leslie, > That looks like a proper Mini tornado to me, other than tornadoes though I > have often wondered what it would be like to experience a Minnesota > winter,as a boy in Wales UK I do remember a temperature of -15c during the > very cold winter there of 1962/63 this temperature of course is relatively > mild in comparison to the -35f and lower across the top end of the USA.in > winter. I have not experienced a Minnesota winter (which has been warmer the last two years). But I have certainly kept track of the cold waves that come south out of Canada and the northern plains each winter. These, of course, affect us but not with temps. as low as up there. Not uncommonly, the temp will fall to ~ - 30 to -40 F ( ) in that area. The coldest recorded temperature in the continental US is about - 70 F in Montana. I too very much enjoy winters here in the US. My only complaint is that here we have only about 50 cm of snow each year. Far to little for me. The winter you mention above, we had ~ 175 cm of snow, the most I have ever experienced here. Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:18:02 -0400 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: aus-wx: Re Radar Site To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id KAA15937 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Chas wrote: > Hello Everyone > > > on top of the Warby ranges. > > Let me give you a couple of things to consider when doing this. > > When you place a radar on top of a hill or mountain, you maximize > "ground > clutter" or the radar detection of earth objects. This clutter can > obscure > precipitation echo unless the radar is equipped with excellent > clutter > suppression. > > Les I think this happens on our local radar NW Tasmania. Something I forgot to mention is that this "ground clutter echo" will normally extend from the radar site outward to somewhere around 50 km to even 100 km. When the radar is placed on the top of hills or mountains clutter echo extends toward the longer ranges, nearer the 100 km figure. Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:08:31 -0400 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: aus-wx: Radar site To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id LAA24589 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com All: Here is a story from the Southern Region News Letter of the US National Weather Service. This is another life saving benefit of radar during a drought. "WSR-88D SAVES LIVES - IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE. We all knew the WSR-88D would save lives, but perhaps not in the way it happened in New Mexico recently. On the afternoon of August 12, senior forecaster Tim Brice answered a ring at the office door at WFO El Paso (located in Santa Teresa, New Mexico). A man who identified himself as "Bill" was at the door and asked for water. Tim provided the water, then got the following information from the man. It seems he exited or was put off a train somewhere west in the desert and was told the route to Las Cruces. With few landmarks in the desert, he quickly became disoriented and the only thing he saw on the horizon was a big ball. He walked for 11 hours to get to the "ball," with temperatures in the middle and upper 90s and having no water. After hearing the story and observing that Bill was shaking and apparently experiencing chills, Tim suspected heat stroke and called 911. When paramedics arrived they confirmed that Bill was severely dehydrated. He was taken by ambulance to the hospital. Bill said he would not have made it if it had not been for the "ball" which guided him to a place where he thought he could get help." Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: RESEARCH: Cyclone Tracy Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:01:11 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie Weather" Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 11:28 PM Subject: aus-wx: RESEARCH: Cyclone Tracy > Morning all, > > I tripped over the NT Library Cyclone Tracy website this morning while > trying to work out why we can't get to the Darwin webcam > http://www.ntlib.nt.gov.au/tracy/advanced/cyc_tracy.html > Blown away by Cyclone Tracy????? (: Les (UK) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Willis, Andrew" To: "'Aussie Weather'" Subject: aus-wx: More about media Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:10:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all I gave the tv and Ann Sanders a verbal blast last night when she was talking about Hurricane Gordon coming ashore in Florida. She then went on to describe how the storm surge was causing damage with it's high winds and funnel clouds. Sheesh. Andrew Willis IS&T Support - Port Waratah Stage 3 Expansion Ph: 02 4920 0381 I'm not arrogant, I'm just better than you Car Bumper Sticker +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.29.156.6] From: "T Middleton" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: new Vic. wx and waterspout photos Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:24:59 GMT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2000 20:24:59.0268 (UTC) FILETIME=[84384440:01C021AE] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, here's a selection of new photos from around South Gippsland Vic. http://www.crosswinds.net/~anvils/whats_new.htm also a photographic archive of some recent local flooding http://www.crosswinds.net/~anvils/spring_rains_supreme.htm and anyone who hasn't seen the photos and light-hearted report of the august 20, waterspout and 2 funnel clouds! http://www.crosswinds.net/~anvils/cu_fishing.htm cya. TM _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:34:55 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: More about media Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi.. On re listening I think the desire to be critical of the media can result in selective hearing on occasions. In the report the words "threatening to come ashore" were used and in reference to the hurricane storm etc it referred to its storm surge along with high winds, funnel clouds etc. Let's give criticism where it due and accept the report as a news story and not a scientific analysis. Don White "Willis, Andrew" wrote: > > Hi all > > I gave the tv and Ann Sanders a verbal blast last night when she was talking > about Hurricane Gordon coming ashore in Florida. She then went on to > describe how the storm surge was causing damage with it's high winds and > funnel clouds. > > Sheesh. > > Andrew Willis > IS&T Support - Port Waratah Stage 3 Expansion > Ph: 02 4920 0381 > > I'm not arrogant, I'm just better than you > > Car Bumper Sticker > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "The Weather Co." To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: More about media Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:19:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all I must admit I heard this report too and was also thoroughly disappointed at the reporting(and as some people know I am normally one to stick up for the media's coverage of weather reporting events ie mini-tornadoes), but Ann did say that the storm surge caused the funnel cloud...I didn't hear her say anything about damaging winds but maybe that was because I was busy complaining about the storm surge! To their credit it was just a brief snippet of footage and not a detailed analysis but, to me, fundamental things like what a storm surge is and what it does should be taught to the media by organisations such as ASWA rather than concentrating on definitional terms such as mini-tornado or the like... Anyway, this is not meant to spark another media debate, just an observation... Matt ____________________ The Weather Company Level 2, 7 West Street North Sydney 2060 Phone: (02) 9955 7704 Fax: (02) 9955 1536 http://www.theweather.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les" To: Subject: Re: GOING OFFTOPIC: aus-wx: Mini/weak tornadoes Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:45:32 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie R. Lemon" To: Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 3:09 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mini/weak tornadoes > Clyve wrote: > I have not experienced a Minnesota winter Funny this has come up, both my wife and myself encountered Minnesota weather having a bite at us in May 1997, after spending a week in San Diego (at a conference) in 30C temperatures we then hopped on a plane to Minneapolis St. Paul to spend another few days in St. Paul, Grand Avenue in a student condo (block of flats) opposite Dunns Coffee Shop to be exact if anyone knows the area - temperatures a bit of a difference at 5C rising very rapidly to around 20C in the space of a day - result Mississippi river bursting its banks due to snowmelt and flooding the airport and pretty well everywhere else.... seeing as I'm married to a medic and am in IT myself this was of no real consequence as we've both got indefinate visas to the USA but it meant that our Apex fares got well and truly stuffed. The salvation came when the local National Guard advertised for volunteers to help mop up, sandbag, etc and after meeting the local commanding officer we agreed to work our passage back to the UK.... we spent four days sandbagging at a place called Fort George and then bumming a lift in a C5A aircraft (in the cockpit for all you aviation enthusiasts out there) back to Brize Norton in the UK and then getting a Nimrod to RAF Boulmer. The "land 'o' lakes" was pretty well one great big lake when we left.... We wound up on CNN as we both had healthy suntans and were up to our eyes in sand and a few other things, we still have the footage, something along the lines of "limeys help great minnesota clearup". We still have our National Guard private's uniforms.... Les (UK) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Total Fire Ban To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:53:08 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > FIRE WEATHER WARNING > BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY > NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE > Issued at 1753 on Monday the 18th of September 2000 > for TUESDAY 18 September 2000 > > Warm dry and windy conditions are expected to cause VERY HIGH FIRE DANGER > in the following weather forecast districts on TUESDAY: > > Sydney Metropolitan > Hunter > Illawarra > > TOTAL FIRE BAN > The Commissioner, NSW Rural Fire Service will TOTALLY BAN THE LIGHTING OF FIRES from midnight MONDAY 18 September 2000 until midnight TUESDAY 19 September 2000 in the same districts. Presumably the Olympic flame is exempt from this... Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: neumann.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:35:32 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at neumann.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: new Vic. wx and waterspout photos Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > From Tony Middleton > > and anyone who hasn't seen the photos and light-hearted report of the august > 20, waterspout and 2 funnel clouds! > http://www.crosswinds.net/~anvils/cu_fishing.htm First of all, a great report and (as usual) fantastic pictures! This may be stating the obvious, but judging by the track of the waterspout/funnel clouds and the winds, these may have been created through horizontal shearing instabilities. It has been shown in numerical experiments that misocyclonic eddies (circulations with diameters less than 4km) can be generated at the edge of a cold air mass (in this case the cold front moving from the southwest) by a cross wind ahead of it (the northwest air flow). Consequently, cyclonic eddies will be generated along the entire front, separated by some distance, and those that are positioned beneath regions of active updraft will be enhanced through the stretching of this vertical vorticity. These will then form your multiple funnel clouds/waterspout if intense enough to be visible. The motion of these regions of cyclonicity will be advected with the northwest air flow to the southeast, as shown by the tracks on the map. Cheers PS For those that are interested, the mentioned numerical experiments were done in Lee and Wilhelmson (1997, J. Atmos. Sci., v54, 32-60). There's actually parts 2 & 3 to this paper, but I seem to have misplaced them. -- Robert A. Goler E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ Department of Mathematics and Statistics Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: new Vic. wx and waterspout photos Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:59:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert. The explanation suggested of vortices along a cold front I think is valid, however I have studied and followed numerous cold fronts over the years and a good place to watch a cold frontal passage is over water ,or dry dusty ground and I have noticed all soughts of scale of vortices along the frontal boundary...from small spinups a few meters across, to rather large circulating miso systems , The vorticity almost always is concentrated along the actual frontal surface boundary, which I have noticed is often not a strait line but an irregular area of activity (this is at the surface ), Another aspect in relation to the stretching of the updraft by horizontal shear which is often used as a theory in respect to vorticity at frontal boundaries, is another process that I have not found discussed in theory text is when the cold frontal wedge overruns a location there is a tendency (this process is well known) for warm air to be trapped under the cold nose.The cold nose somtimes seems to extend several hundred meters or more ahead of the actual surface front a few hundred meters above the surface layer ,this situation may therefore enhance the updraft process of parcels of warm air that have been overrun by relatively much colder air a few hundred meters above ground level this may be another reason for low level vorticity associated with accelerated updraft along the cold front with the lapse rate considereably steepened in the lower 300m to 500m or so .. Regards Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Goler To: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 10:35 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: new Vic. wx and waterspout photos > > > From Tony Middleton > > > > and anyone who hasn't seen the photos and light-hearted report of the august > > 20, waterspout and 2 funnel clouds! > > http://www.crosswinds.net/~anvils/cu_fishing.htm > > First of all, a great report and (as usual) fantastic pictures! > > This may be stating the obvious, but judging by the track of the > waterspout/funnel clouds and the winds, these may have been created > through horizontal shearing instabilities. > > It has been shown in numerical experiments that misocyclonic eddies > (circulations with diameters less than 4km) can be generated at the edge > of a cold air mass (in this case the cold front moving from the southwest) > by a cross wind ahead of it (the northwest air flow). Consequently, > cyclonic eddies will be generated along the entire front, separated by > some distance, and those that are positioned beneath regions of active > updraft will be enhanced through the stretching of this vertical > vorticity. These will then form your multiple funnel clouds/waterspout if > intense enough to be visible. The motion of these regions of cyclonicity > will be advected with the northwest air flow to the southeast, as shown by > the tracks on the map. > > > Cheers > > PS > For those that are interested, the mentioned numerical experiments were > done in Lee and Wilhelmson (1997, J. Atmos. Sci., v54, 32-60). There's > actually parts 2 & 3 to this paper, but I seem to have misplaced them. > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > Department of Mathematics and Statistics > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: neumann.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:14:08 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at neumann.maths.monash.edu.au To: Aussie-wx Subject: aus-wx: WEATHER: Current Perth local/broad radar Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Has anyone checked out the radar for Perth at the moment (for ~0800WST)? If not, check it out here at http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2000_09_19/perthlocal0733-0832.gif There is an expanding arc of light precipitation out to sea, just to the north of Perth, about 100km out to sea. Tracing it back, perhaps it came from somewhere between Lancelin and Yanchep(?). Any ideas? Has anyone saved the loops prior to this? For the broad loop that I've saved, just replace "local" in the above address with "broad". I'll put some other stuff as I come across it in the directory http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2000_09_19/ Cheers -- Robert A. Goler E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ Department of Mathematics and Statistics Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: 10 to 20mm echo near Maitland at 1300hrs. Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:17:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all has anybody noticed some activity starting up in the hunter and showing returns of 10 to 20 mm at 1300hrs although isolated this shower has moved rather fast from a bearing of about 290degrees worth keeping a lookout in this area.regards Clyve H
X-Originating-IP: [203.29.156.7] From: "T Middleton" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: front 4:20pm Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 05:54:02 GMT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2000 05:54:02.0271 (UTC) FILETIME=[030912F0:01C021FE] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, a nice little low guster with a chilling SW wind through here (cape Paterson,SW Gippsland,Vic.) at 4:20pm.still raining,4:45pm.An associated temperature drop about 5 deg.in about 15 min.just like a summer change,but unfortunately it was only 17.5 deg not 35!! T.Middleton. Anvil Industries http://www.anvilindustries.com Wildcoast Images http://www.wildcoastimages.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.29.156.6] From: "T Middleton" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: front 4:20pm Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:14:38 GMT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2000 06:14:38.0686 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3FF07E0:01C02200] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com have a look outside now melbournites,or on webcam http://webcam.omni.net.au/ >From: "T Middleton" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: front 4:20pm >Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 05:54:02 GMT > >Hi everyone, >a nice little low guster with a chilling SW wind through here (cape >Paterson,SW Gippsland,Vic.) at 4:20pm.still raining,4:45pm.An associated >temperature drop about 5 deg.in about 15 min.just like a summer change,but >unfortunately it was only 17.5 deg not 35!! > > >T.Middleton. >Anvil Industries >http://www.anvilindustries.com >Wildcoast Images >http://www.wildcoastimages.com > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Karratha Weather" To: Subject: aus-wx: First Thundery showers of the spring/summer on Broome Radar :) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:59:42 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey all
 
Check out Broome radar.....nice thundery showers on there about 60kms to the WNW, getting up to yellow intensity!
 
Great to see the build up is beginning!
 
Here in Karratha it was a much cooler day than the past 3 days...early seabreeze at 9:50am prevented significant heating...but even with the seabreeze all day we got up to a max temp of 34.6C at 12:25pm :)
Currently its a nice and warm 33/14 with a light NNW wind.
 
Bring on the summer! :)
 
JJ
 
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:31:11 -0700 From: Lindsay Pearce X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: WEATHER: cold winters, CURRENT WEATHER: Balmy, dry, OFFTOPIC: Blackout. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Written offline, Tuesday 8am) 1/ Lucky you Leslie! We only had 20cm or so of snow this year, and that's an okay year! Although the record would be over a 100cm for a season, from many years ago, for our region. 1900 apparently saw 3 feet fall in one big fall, but that has never happened since. > I have not experienced a Minnesota winter (which has been warmer the last > two years). But I have certainly kept track of the cold waves that come > south out of Canada and the northern plains each winter. These, of course, > affect us but not with temps. as low as up there. Not uncommonly, the temp > will fall to ~ - 30 to -40 F ( ) in that area. The coldest recorded > temperature in the continental US is about - 70 F in Montana. > > I too very much enjoy winters here in the US. My only complaint is that > here we have only about 50 cm of snow each year. Far to little for me. > The winter you mention above, we had ~ 175 cm of snow, the most I have > ever experienced here. 2/ Michael T, it's been pretty dry here in Blackheath too. Only 14mm for September so far. Still tinges of green around and lots of beautiful spring colours but its becoming a worry. The tulips and dafs are looking great in our yard though, I have to say, with all of this fine weather although the vegie garden is a bit tired :-) 3/ We had a blackout last night from roughly 5:30pm to 10pm, although it didn't seem to be weather related. It was kind of fun having to finish cooking the beef stew on the barbecue. Missed the olympics though, which was a bugger. Cheers, Lindsay P. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 20:59:43 +1000 From: MSC - Jane ONeill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie-wx Subject: aus-wx: WEATHER: Melbourne / FORECAST: Signs to watch Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Drove through 20-40mm/hr on the way home earlier tonight (for about 12kms of the trip) - and when the traffic on the freeway slows to 80kmh from 100kmh, you know it's really raining!! Have had 6mm in Bayswater, but I would suggest that considerably more has fallen in the suburbs to the NW of here as the showers were tracking SE over the top of themselves after the passage of the front. Where was I when the front was approaching Melbourne??...on the roof at work, where else? Hey Macca - did tennis get washed out tonight? On the broader scale....... This cirrus 'trail' echoing the jet at 300hPa is becoming more meridional with the amplitude of this 'wave' increasing and it is now passing over 4 states - if the Brisbanites wandered outside and looked up I think they'd see cirrus drifting off to the NE. There has also been a *very* interesing development in WA of a suspicious patch of middle level cloud and another area of developing cloud coming onto the WA coast south of Shark Bay with an almost invisible infeed from the Indian Ocean and a kink to it. There's also a very faint (at the moment) indication of a circulation in the water vapour at ~300hPa level just west of Perth in about the same place as a trough at that level is developing......the next couple of days could get rather interesting!! Just the sort of thing that might make us glad that it's almost Thursday .....(if you don't get my meaning, scroll to the very bottom of the message) >Although things are a bit quite, has anybody noticed a moderate strength field of cold air across the Australian Bight area >following the rather, at the moment sparse cold front, worth keeping an interest, also the rather odd and very lengthy line of >cirrus extending from the tropics southwest of Indonesia and across the top end of WA., and the NT, regards Clyve H. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- X-Authentication-Warning: neumann.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:16:49 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at neumann.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: front 4:20pm Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Did anyone save any radar or webcam images of this front in Melbourne? I had to leave my terminal to do some shopping in Glen Waverley :-( and noticed some nice low scuddy cloud to the south around 5:20pm. When it passed overhead, around 5:40pm you could see its motion with the lower scud zipping forward from south to north, while that on top was drifting slower from northwest to southeast. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ Department of Mathematics and Statistics Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:30:26 +1000 From: MSC - Jane ONeill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: WEATHER: Melbourne / FORECAST: Signs to watch Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com - the bit down the bottom that you didn't get in the previous email said: I reckon if anything's going to happen in Victoria it'll happen on Thursday as all of these developing features get themselves organised....... Jane +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: WEATHER: Melbourne / FORECAST: Signs to watch Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 20:53:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane, everyone >if the Brisbanites wandered outside and looked up I think they'd see cirrus drifting off to > the NE. This cirrus made for quite a nice sunset http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/19-09-200002.jpg Nice and warm the last few days, with some veeeery high based convection to the W and SW today - looking forward to the chance of some activity on the border ranges later this week +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: neumann.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:49:17 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at neumann.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: WEATHER: Melbourne / FORECAST: Signs to watch Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > I reckon if anything's going to happen in Victoria it'll happen on Thursday > as all of these developing features get themselves > organised....... > > Jane > Actually, I reckon there's more chance of it occurring on Friday, as that's when I'll be in Adelaide :-( visiting my parents. So you can be sure that in the following week and a bit, Adelaide's weather will be bright and sunny, while Vic will be getting all the storm action! This may also mean that I could be out of email contact until I return on Oct 1. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ Department of Mathematics and Statistics Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:15:53 +1000 From: MSC - Jane ONeill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: WEATHER: Melbourne / FORECAST: Signs to watch Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Ben, Robert & all, Ben that's a brilliant shot!!!!!! Robert, I'm pleased to hear that you have nominated yourself as the 'sacrificial stormchaser' for Victoria for this season. We noted that when we 'sacrificed' Macca to Queensland in May we got a fantastic cold outbreak, which the 'sacrificial lamb' had himself helped to predict Could you possibly therefore, give us your prediction and best wishes before you go west Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- Ben Quinn wrote: > Hi Jane, everyone > > >if the Brisbanites wandered outside and looked up I think they'd see cirrus > drifting off to > > the NE. > > This cirrus made for quite a nice sunset > Robert Goler wrote: Actually, I reckon there's more chance of it occurring on Friday, as that's when I'll be in Adelaide :-( visiting my parents. So you can be sure that in the following week and a bit, Adelaide's weather will be bright and sunny, while Vic will be getting all the storm action! This may also mean that I could be out of email contact until I return on Oct 1. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: CURRENT WEATHER: Balmy, dry Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:20:12 +1000 Organization: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Another grass fire in the 'gong today, lit by some grub, especially as its school holidays. Trouble is its no joke when the RL is 15% and NW winds threaten to go gusty, luckily they stayed light. I even saw a weak dust devil near the steelworks this afternoon. It occurred right on the seabreeze boundary. The seabreeze over the last two days has been very weak. Today it was lucky to make it more than 1 km inland, even though it had a 9am start. The BOM has put the can on the chance of thunderstorms in the area tomorrow. The models never really entertained the storms. The AVN dataset has inflated the LI's into positive territory for tomorrow too. Looking at the models however, Sunday and into Monday could be interesting. Michael > 2/ Michael T, it's been pretty dry here in Blackheath too. Only 14mm for > September so far. Still tinges of green around and lots of beautiful > spring colours but its becoming a worry. The tulips and dafs are looking > great in our yard though, I have to say, with all of this fine weather > although the vegie garden is a bit tired :-) > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:21:07 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: front 4:20pm Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert, Perth local is at: http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/anthony/Sept19Vic/Perth%20Local/ There seems to be some weird times though? Normally it's clean (ie xx:50UTC, not xx:52UTC) Melb local: http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/anthony/Sept19Vic/Melb%20Local/ Melb broad: http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/anthony/Sept19Vic/Melb%20Broad/ And some assorted Melb webcam images ("orgasmic!") http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/anthony/Sept19Vic/Sept%2019%20Melb%20Webcam.zip Unfortunately, I can't archive the webcam as the file names change :-( AC Robert Goler wrote: > > Did anyone save any radar or webcam images of this front in Melbourne? > > I had to leave my terminal to do some shopping in Glen Waverley :-( and > noticed some nice low scuddy cloud to the south around 5:20pm. When it > passed overhead, around 5:40pm you could see its motion with the lower > scud zipping forward from south to north, while that on top was drifting > slower from northwest to southeast. > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > Department of Mathematics and Statistics > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------