From: "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:56:46 +1000
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Note the Lauriston Avenue sign. Should point in the opposite direction. .4km
1 side 1km, what was the question? Whatistheuse?

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From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Subject: aus-wx: DAMAGE PHOTOS: Milawa page 3


> Evening all,
>
> The 3rd page of Milawa tornado damage photos is up (with apologies to MB
> - I'm working on fixing the problem....) at
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/milawa09093.htm
>
> Ther will be a full report on the damage & also the witness reports from
> a number of residents shortly....and something that was rather
> interesting, a resident mentioned that about 3 months ago, a number of
> gum trees were 'corkscrewed' with their middles ripped out...reckon that
> might make it the same time as the severe squall the night before the
> Fairy Dell tornado in June??????? (another tornado?)
>
> BTW, Macca, one side is .4km, 1 side is 1km, what's the length of the
> hypotenuse?????
>
> Jane
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From: "Phil Smith" <drdisk at hktrade.com>
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To calculate the length of the hypotenuse one finds the square root of the
sum of the squares of the other two sides so:
to restate:     .4km x 1km what is hypotenuse?
change to metres:    400m x 1000m
square of 400 = 160000
square of 1000 = 1000000
160000 + 1000000 = 1160000
hyp = sqrt of 1160000 = 1,077.03296
The hypotenuse is 1.07703296km or 1077.03296m or 107703.296cm or for a
slightly greater precision, 1077032.29690080625014209830807mm but if you
eliminate a few of those decimal places, no one will be able to measure the
difference!

But, why do you need to know?
Phil
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> BTW, Macca, one side is .4km, 1 side is 1km, what's the length of the
> hypotenuse?????
>
> Jane
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From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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But, why do you need to know?
Phil

Phil and all,

We couldn't find any other way of measuring the damage path on the day
because we couldn't get a scale map of the 'metropolis' of Milawa (1 highway
& 3 cross streets) - so I devised a method of guestimating it by driving
from the furthest extent of the damage path at right angles to the main road
& measuring that, then turned right and drove to the furthest extent of the
damage path in that direction - that gave me the 2 right angled sides of the
triangle - so if I knew the length of the hypotenuse (and then added an
estimated 200mtrs back from the road that I couldn't do any more than
guesstimate) I'd have a pretty accurate figure........

______________
|                              /
|                            /
|                          /<------ length of damage path
|                        /
|                      /
|                    /
|                  /
|                /
|              /
|            /
|          /
|        /
|      /
|    /
|  /
|
I'll find a CFA map (Bussy???) and check it, but I make it 1.277kms...

BTW, everyone - thanks for your help with this....

Jane
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ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Morning people

Well it's mild and cloudy here, must have been some light showers early this 
morning, very windy overnight. The Sky at the moment has very large Cu 
Towers; nice crisp tops, at all points of the compass, but they have little 
or no percipitation. Some "Castles" out west, me thinks a T-storm for 
somewhere in the state this avo. Weak Change my butt

Weak Changes always wither bring nothing or thunderstorms, hehehehe
I hope I have the camera with me.
LEs
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:06:31 +1000
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Leslie,

Nothing out here around the Wimmera. Not even any cu to be had. Don't think
much is going to happen.....especially storm wise.

Paul.

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> Morning people
>
> Well it's mild and cloudy here, must have been some light showers early
this
> morning, very windy overnight. The Sky at the moment has very large Cu
> Towers; nice crisp tops, at all points of the compass, but they have
little
> or no percipitation. Some "Castles" out west, me thinks a T-storm for
> somewhere in the state this avo. Weak Change my butt
>
> Weak Changes always wither bring nothing or thunderstorms, hehehehe
> I hope I have the camera with me.
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:46:59 -0700, Lindsay Pearce
<writer at lisp.com.au> wrote:

>(Written offline: Tuesday 2:15pm)
>
>* Does any one have some information on the ski fields? That is, how's
>the spring melt going? I'm just trying to get an accurate idea of the
>conditions down there other than staring into the snow cams etc. 
>
Snow depths are holding up well. As at 9 this morning, Charlotte Pass
had 260cm, Falls Creek 217cm. As at 7/9/00 on the Snowy Mtns, Spencers
Creek had 262, Deep Creek 154 and Three Mile Dam 37. I haven't been
watching the last three, but Charlotte and Falls are down about 30cm
on their peak depth of a couple of weeks ago.

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Hi all,

after viewing the BoM warning product for Victoria at noon (12:00pm 14/9) it 
just occurred to me how messy it  all is in terms of presentation (ie all 
states not just Vic). It really is a what's what of warnings down there (see 
below if interested), at the time I write this, although none were top 
priority. There are wind warnings of all sorts, flood warnings etc etc and I 
wouldn't be surprised if a 'thunderstorm' warning is issued for good measure 
in Melbourne later today. Mind you, I think the BoM have done a mighty fine 
job on their website in general, although more effort should be spent on 
providing a more simple-and-straight-forward Warnings interface. If a 
significant weather event unfolds on a day like this you would be hard 
pressed to see the warning amongst all the other mess. Perhaps 
sub-categories or a graphical colour-coded presentation of some sort would 
be better. Also, IMO only, I think those Melbourne thunderstorm warnings, of 
the garden variety, should be saved for the forecasts as they really have no 
place in what should be reserved for more 'tempestuous' weather.

regards,  David


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Victoria
Warnings Current: Coastal Wind Warning 1, Coastal Wind Warning 2, Coastal 
Wind Warning 3, Bay Wind Warning, Flood Warning - Mitta Mitta River, Flood 
Warning - Kiewa River, Flood warning for Seven Creeks / Castle Creek, Flood 
Warning - Ovens and King Rivers, Ocean Wind Warning, Land Wind Warning, 
Flood Warning - Latrobe River, Flood Warning - Murray River upstream of Hume 
Weir, Flood Warning - Murray River Hume to Yarrawonga, Flood Warning - Yarra 
River, Flood Warning - Goulburn River above Lake Eildon, Flood Warning - 
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Currently a high based storm to the north of here (Kilsyth) in the outer
easter suburbs of Melbourne. Several good Cg's so far with fairly loud
thunder about 5 to 10 seconds gap between lightning and thunder. Not much
rain with it and its clearing eastwards now. Dane.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know that this is a tad late, but on my return 
from my annual pilgrimage down to the AFL grand final to see the mighty Bombers 
defeat the Dees (go bombers!) i observed a lot of low lying water, flooded 
creeks, overflowing drains etc in the Seymour all the way through to Gundagai. I 
am unsure on how much rain has fallen around there, nor I am sure of the run off 
from the Victorian and NSW snowfields, but it was certainly the greenest 
and&nbsp;moistest I have seen it for at least 3-4 years.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What was also intriguing was how green it was so 
far north. Usually, from my point of view driving up and down in August and 
September for the AFL,  southern rain fall never really impeded further north 
than Albury approx. There were signs of flooding in a Murrumbidgee river always, 
but it was surrounded by long dry grass, whereas this year it was very green, 
and that seemed to continue through to Yass, where it was almost like driving 
into a different country, you came over one of the steep hills, and browny 
landscapes greeted us once again north of this town.</FONT></DIV>
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observations.</FONT></DIV>
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From: Lyle Pakula <lyle at echidna.atmos.colostate.edu>
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hi,

if your getting that accurate, have you accounted for earth curviture?

cheers, lyle
p.s. don't answer that :)

Phil Smith wrote:

> To calculate the length of the hypotenuse one finds the square root of the
> sum of the squares of the other two sides so:
> to restate:     .4km x 1km what is hypotenuse?
> change to metres:    400m x 1000m
> square of 400 = 160000
> square of 1000 = 1000000
> 160000 + 1000000 = 1160000
> hyp = sqrt of 1160000 = 1,077.03296
> The hypotenuse is 1.07703296km or 1077.03296m or 107703.296cm or for a
> slightly greater precision, 1077032.29690080625014209830807mm but if you
> eliminate a few of those decimal places, no one will be able to measure the
> difference!
>
> But, why do you need to know?
> Phil
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> > BTW, Macca, one side is .4km, 1 side is 1km, what's the length of the
> > hypotenuse?????
> >
> > Jane
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Local loop shows some speckles of pink in the line; actually these speckles 
were located *just* to the north of the Melbourne CBD at 4:10UTC. The next 
scan showed a solitary red pixel.

Phil with all that precision you neglected your accuracy. Remember, in 
measurement, when rounding, you round up to the nearest tenths digit - 
there's also an xtra 2 in the mm figure given [ok..has been a quiet day at 
work in this olympic drug testing lab. Not much evidence of widespread 
drug-cheating in the pre-games testing]  :-)

Phil Smith wrote:

>To calculate the length of the hypotenuse one finds the square root of the
>sum of the squares of the other two sides so:
>to restate:     .4km x 1km what is hypotenuse?
>change to metres:    400m x 1000m
>square of 400 = 160000
>square of 1000 = 1000000
>160000 + 1000000 = 1160000
>hyp = sqrt of 1160000 = 1,077.03296
>The hypotenuse is 1.07703296km or 1077.03296m or 107703.296cm or for a
>slightly greater precision, 1077032.29690080625014209830807mm <snip>
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From: "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: DAMAGE PHOTOS: Milawa page 3
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:32:52 +1000
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Grin. Ok. From where to where? As stated by a resident it did a left turn
near the fire station after travelling nearly a kilometre from west to east
and then travelled NE for approx 500-750 metres. No apparent damage further
out (farm land and no trees).

Bussy (NE Victoria)

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> But, why do you need to know?
> Phil
>
> Phil and all,
>
> We couldn't find any other way of measuring the damage path on the day
> because we couldn't get a scale map of the 'metropolis' of Milawa (1
highway
> & 3 cross streets) - so I devised a method of guestimating it by driving
> from the furthest extent of the damage path at right angles to the main
road
> & measuring that, then turned right and drove to the furthest extent of
the
> damage path in that direction - that gave me the 2 right angled sides of
the
> triangle - so if I knew the length of the hypotenuse (and then added an
> estimated 200mtrs back from the road that I couldn't do any more than
> guesstimate) I'd have a pretty accurate figure........
>
> ______________
> |                              /
> |                            /
> |                          /<------ length of damage path
> |                        /
> |                      /
> |                    /
> |                  /
> |                /
> |              /
> |            /
> |          /
> |        /
> |      /
> |    /
> |  /
> |
> I'll find a CFA map (Bussy???) and check it, but I make it 1.277kms...
>
> BTW, everyone - thanks for your help with this....
>
> Jane
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Know exactly what you mean by a tangled mess. And most of it caused by my
water logged part of Victoria (NE). But yes I agree, far too messy. If as
you say a thunderstorm warning was issued, where would they put it? In the
middle of all the other stuff which does get hard to read time and time
again.

Bussy (NE Victoria)
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> Hi all,
>
> after viewing the BoM warning product for Victoria at noon (12:00pm 14/9)
it
> just occurred to me how messy it  all is in terms of presentation (ie all
> states not just Vic). It really is a what's what of warnings down there
(see
> below if interested), at the time I write this, although none were top
> priority. There are wind warnings of all sorts, flood warnings etc etc and
I
> wouldn't be surprised if a 'thunderstorm' warning is issued for good
measure
> in Melbourne later today. Mind you, I think the BoM have done a mighty
fine
> job on their website in general, although more effort should be spent on
> providing a more simple-and-straight-forward Warnings interface. If a
> significant weather event unfolds on a day like this you would be hard
> pressed to see the warning amongst all the other mess. Perhaps
> sub-categories or a graphical colour-coded presentation of some sort would
> be better. Also, IMO only, I think those Melbourne thunderstorm warnings,
of
> the garden variety, should be saved for the forecasts as they really have
no
> place in what should be reserved for more 'tempestuous' weather.
>
> regards,  David
>
>
> -------------
> Victoria
> Warnings Current: Coastal Wind Warning 1, Coastal Wind Warning 2, Coastal
> Wind Warning 3, Bay Wind Warning, Flood Warning - Mitta Mitta River, Flood
> Warning - Kiewa River, Flood warning for Seven Creeks / Castle Creek,
Flood
> Warning - Ovens and King Rivers, Ocean Wind Warning, Land Wind Warning,
> Flood Warning - Latrobe River, Flood Warning - Murray River upstream of
Hume
> Weir, Flood Warning - Murray River Hume to Yarrawonga, Flood Warning -
Yarra
> River, Flood Warning - Goulburn River above Lake Eildon, Flood Warning -
> Goulburn River Lake Eildon to Goulburn Weir.
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From: "Anthony Spierings" <as029 at bigpond.net.au>
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Found this article in today's Australian Financial Review.  Disclaimer: I do
not necessarily agree or disagree with this article.

-----

A shrinking threat

Contrary to dire warnings about global warming, the most accurate data
appear to indicate the alarm about the effects of increased greenhouse gases
is unwarranted. Simon Scott reports.


http://www.afr.com.au/features/20000914/A63620-2000Sep13.html

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From: "Ben Quinn" <benquinn at optushome.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: ooops
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Hi everyone,

Forgot to add this to the new pics page yesterday - this BRILLIANT shot was
taken by Marty Pouwelse on August 23 from eastern Brisbane

http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/marty/23-08-2000.html

And i just got these from Adam Cole today - they were taken from Warwick
last Thursday night

http://bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/adam/07-09-200001.jpg
http://bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/adam/07-09-200002.jpg


Tomorrow and Saturday looks slightly interesting for us - i'm tipping
showers, but i wouldn't totally rule out the chance of some thunder on the
ranges during the afternoons.  After weeks of dry conditions, bushfires and
smoky skies, anything that has vertical development and is preciptating will
be a welcome sight

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From the late morning update

SOUTHERN TABLELANDS
Thursday
A cloud gradually increasing with a shower or two developing.  Fresh and
gusty
northwest to west winds strong at times turning cool southwesterly.


I wonder which cloud, not any the ones I could see.



Michael Thompson
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:35:33 +1000
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Um, Michael,  I think you need a storm <g> ...at least we had some lightning
in melbourne today and some rather stunning AcCas in the mid afternoon at the
tail end of the first front - rather reminiscent of the storms of 19th May
1999.

While the clearing edge of the first front receded east, the leading edge of
the second front could be seen approaching from the west.  Quite interesting
as both fronts had embedded Cb's, but the Cb's of the first front were high
based and the Cb's of the second front were low based (and had some pretty
interesting lowerings).

Jane
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Michael Thompson wrote:

> >From the late morning update
>
> SOUTHERN TABLELANDS
> Thursday
> A cloud gradually increasing with a shower or two developing.  Fresh and
> gusty
> northwest to west winds strong at times turning cool southwesterly.
>
> I wonder which cloud, not any the ones I could see.
>
> Michael Thompson
> http://thunder.simplenet.com
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From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon)
Date: 14 Sep 00 19:49:15 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne Thunder
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Hello Dane!

14 Sep 00 13:53, you wrote to All:

 DN> Currently a high based storm to the north of here (Kilsyth) in the
 DN> outer easter suburbs of Melbourne. Several good Cg's so far with
 DN> fairly loud thunder about 5 to 10 seconds gap between lightning and
 DN> thunder. Not much rain with it and its clearing eastwards now. Dane.

Heavy rain for 15-20 minutes in the CBD, didn't notice any thunder, but was
stuck inside an office block all day. :(

Tony, VK3JED
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Come on Michael, didn't you see The cloud. I mean It was The cloud that the 
bom spoke about. You should show more respect when they talk about The 
cloud.
                Cloudlessly
                            Shaun            Nowra

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 22:21:05 +1000
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Evening all,

I've finally updated the SDS Humour page for those of you who want to
call some of us 'bastards' because as in Chris Daley's words last
Saturday "Janes out Pakenham way at the moment, watching %^# CG's and
listening to &^$* thunder while im sitting here at the %$#
computer!!!!!" <g>.....
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour.htm

**'The Cloud'**
Shaun, that was a brilliant observation of yours - how did you work out
which cloud was The Cloud???? - and where did it go after you saw it?
Maybe we should all keep our eyes open for signs of The Cloud lurking in
our area!!! - maybe a brief description on a WANTED page is the go!!

<I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself, my sense of humour escaped.....>

Enjoy!!

Jane

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Just saw this in the TV Guide and just in case you don't have one:

Friday 15th, 2000
8:30pm (Melbourne Time)
SBS

ABOUT US - El Nino: The Devil's Child [PG]
An analysis of the unpredictable weather phenomenon known as El Nino. This 
program poses the questions as to what causes this destructive weather 
pattern to grow and how can scientists predict its arrival?


Regards,
Simon
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