Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 00:52:52 +1000 From: David Carroll X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Snow Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 12.50am 16/08 At 12.30am, light snow falling at Mt Lambie 30km east Of Bathurst. Report came from Police in Bathurst. NO snow settling as yet. Dave +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: davidkc at advanceenergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: Snow - Bathurst - Roads To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 06:02:46 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Domino/Advance(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) at 16/08/2000 06:02:46 AM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 6am 16/08. HI all. Snowing in Bathurst at this time. Not settling. All Roads Currently open from Bathurst to Lithgow and Bathurst -Oberon. Portland near Lithgow has 2 inches of snow. Dave / Bathurst. NSW +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: aus-wx: Illawarra weather Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 06:58:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com morning all, Wollongong 6:40am EST, Cold Sw winds blowing this morning, with snow a distinct possibility on the Illawarra Escarpment if the wind turns a little E of S. A few photogenic coldies off the coast east of Nowra looked good. But definately snow in the air. Waiting for the winds to turn with the development of the ECL off the far NSW south coast. Andrew Godsman EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify postmaster at bhp.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Conditions Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:02:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
After the last few days it's clear here and currently zero (7am).
 
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: davidkc at advanceenergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: Roads - Bathurst To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:56:30 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Domino/Advance(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) at 16/08/2000 07:56:31 AM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 7.45am 16/08. Roads from Bathurst to Lithgow closed. Trucks unable to climb hill at Mt Lambie. Mid Western Hwy from Bathurst to Blayney, thick snow roads maybe closed soon. Snowing in Orange at this time. Dave +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:50:15 -0700 From: Lindsay Pearce X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: WEATHER: Blackheath, persistant light snow since 6:30am Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blackheath: Wednesday 8:50am Temp -1 Light snow has been pretty much continual since 6:30am this morning. It's interesting snow, as its very small, like polystyrene (sp?) beads out of a bean bag, say only a few mm at most in size. Only a light accumulation at this stage. It's a little heavier now as I look out the window. Thanks for the road reports Dave, we appreciate it. Lindsay Pearce +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: WEATHER: Blackheath, persistant light snow since 6:30am Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:43:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Leopold (south coast Vic)0945 16.08.00. Bulk of cold air passed through central Victoria between 1200 and 2200hrs Tues, coldest air accompanied a thermal trough about mid afternoon, snow reported across the central Vic ranges to about 450m and most places received hail.Marked warming occurred after 0200 Wed and at 0900 my temp had reached 10c after sitting on about 5c most of Tues pm.Still some nice very low vertical extent cbs about with showers, pressure 1021. Have a nice snow play day. regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lindsay Pearce To: Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:50 AM Subject: aus-wx: WEATHER: Blackheath, persistant light snow since 6:30am > Blackheath: Wednesday 8:50am > > Temp -1 > > Light snow has been pretty much continual since 6:30am this morning. > It's interesting snow, as its very small, like polystyrene (sp?) beads > out of a bean bag, say only a few mm at most in size. Only a light > accumulation at this stage. > > It's a little heavier now as I look out the window. > > Thanks for the road reports Dave, we appreciate it. > > Lindsay Pearce > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [24.192.0.130] From: "James Pickett" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Water Spouts Off Sydney. Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 01:25:51 GMT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2000 01:25:51.0821 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA55BFD0:01C00720] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi to all, 9.30am 16/8/00 Recovering from 21st celebrations i was a good 1 Hour late for work, soon to be 2 Hours when noticing the nice looking towers off the coast. By this stage i was approaching Bondi and had a fairly good idea that what i would see wouldnt dissapoint! With an air temp of around 8 degrees and a nice cold pool of air in the upper layers the cb's i saw couldnt be your usual. Although fairly small, they had very well defined high bases with a very nice curtain of rain behind them and a developing anvil, which i might add has moved in a westward direction since(11am). With hopes up high i purchased a camera in a dodgey convience store across the road(lets hope it works!)and continued to wait for any developments. At around 9.45am the first of a funnel shaped column emerged from the storms northern base followed by a further 3 more in a line behind it. Unfortunately this storm (or storms) was/were a little too far out to guarantee all 4 spouts, Definately 1 though! Anyway, film is getting developed as i speak. Will put photos up on the list this evening. I must confess that the AGM has inspired me to be patient and pay alot more attention to whats going on, special thanks to Clive, Jane, Jimmy and Anthony as well as to all those with inspiring stories-all of u!! COULD BE AN INTERESTING ARVO, SQUALLY SHOWERS ON THE WAY. REGARDS JAMES P. IN A FROZEN SYDNEY. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:38:01 +1000 From: Andrew Miskelly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Illawarra weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wollongong 1136 EST Actually some nice mamma clouds going over just to the east of Wollongong at the moment, from a few coldies over the sea by the looks of the radar. I fear that the low has choofed off to the east too quickly taking any action Wollongong or the escarpment might have got with it. Andrew. "Godsman, Andrew AG" wrote: > > morning all, > > Wollongong 6:40am EST, > Cold Sw winds blowing this morning, with snow a distinct possibility on the Illawarra Escarpment if the wind turns a little E of S. A few photogenic coldies off the coast east of Nowra looked good. But definately snow in the air. > > Waiting for the winds to turn with the development of the ECL off the far NSW south coast. > > Andrew Godsman > > EOM > > NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify postmaster at bhp.com. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- -- Andrew Miskelly Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW amiskelly at ozemail.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:24:07 -0700 From: Lindsay Pearce X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: WEATHER: Snow in Blue Mountains Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blackheath: Wednesday 11:15am (Written off-line) Temp: 3 Winds: light southerly The snow that fell across the Blue Mountains this morning seemed to be heavier at Katoomba than here, even though we are roughly a hundred metres higher in Blackheath. I guess that's not surpising considering the more southward direction of the wind. My partner caught the train to work and confirmed there was more snow on the ground in Katoomba, at least that which she could see from the station. As she arrived at Wentworth Falls station and walked up to the Grammar School, she was hit by "Quite moderate to heavy snow, blowing into my eyes and making it very hard to see." She also said that Wentworth Falls had as much snow on the ground as Blackheath did, maybe even more. She grew up in a family of doctors and scientists, so, she's pretty good at making careful observations. Maybe there was some credibility in the Channel Nine report this morning (during the Today Show) that the snow was "Teeming down" in the Blue Mountains. At least, it may have for a short period, in the areas I mentioned but not here in Blackheath. Cheers, Lindsay Pearce +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Geelong Weather Services" To: Subject: aus-wx: THE PARAPARAP REPORT Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:58:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The long-awaited Paraparap Tornado report by Clyve Herbert, Jane O'Neill with help from a number of other sources, is now available at www.stormchasers.au.com/paraindex.htm or through GWS at www.pipeline.com.au/users/gws Hopefully the MSC page will have its link soon. My congratulations especially to Clyve & Jane for this excellent and professionally-produced piece of work, which was done in everyone's "spare time" and has just been presented to the BoM. Lindsay Smail. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [141.132.128.10] From: "Leslie Baxter" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Cold Air Cells Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:10:23 GMT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2000 02:10:23.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[23108CA0:01C00727] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yesterday was cold to very, Cold Air Cbs where everywhere, very heavy showers and small hail. Typical winters day here in Ballarat, close to snowing, but no cigar. No people: Is a Cold Air Cell a true Thunderstorm????? Or is it just a large Cu tower; congestous, that gets a bit to top heavy and a weak updraft, and as it falls over forms a "anvil" apearance? To the folks from the US of A, do you people get Cold Air Cbs?? Les ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mini/weak tornadoes Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:33:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just a small question. If buildings were made of something really strong and copped no apparent damage then what good would the Fujitsu scale be? How would we know then that a tornado or whatever has been through? Not very likely to happen, but anything is possible I suppose. Bussy (NE Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: Leslie R. Lemon To: Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:52 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mini/weak tornadoes > Andrew McDonald wrote: > > > Just in relation to a comment made by Leslie..... > > > > "The funny thing is that the vast majority (> ~ 60%) of tornadoes that > occur > > even here in "Tornado Alley" are "weak" (winds 120 mph or less)" > > > > Let me see....120mph = 192km/h......I think that would successfully > rearrange > > the roof and maybe a wall or two of a house. I think its amusing what > > Leslie terms as "weak" and what I/we would consider weak here. I was out > > First, please understand that the value of "120 mph" was essentially off > the top of my head, if you will. "Weak" tornadoes are classified as F0 and > F1. Once again, this is a damage scale and not a wind speed scale. (I > think we can all recite that in our sleep! ) So much is dependent on > the structural integrity of that which was damaged, if indeed, there are > structures to be damaged. If one looks at the *estimated* wind speeds to > inflict F1 damage, it is less than about 113 mph. > > Having said this, my point was that here in the states we virtually NEVER > hear the term "mini" used in relation to tornadoes. Those words just are > not juxtaposed! There are a couple videos that come to my mind where in > one sense the term "mini" might be thought to apply. In both those, there > is actual condensation that reaches the ground but it is so slender that it > would appear "I could put my arms around it!" Needless to say, my arms > would probably not weather the storm very well. I say that because one of > these same very slender tornadoes could be seen to uproot trees and send > them skyward as if they were rockets. Seeing that, I would never call that > a "mini". But, it would seem that no matter the intensity of tornadoes in > Australia, the press will very nearly always view these as "minies". You > have "fallen and you will never again get up". The press must carefully > prevent that from happening! LOL > > Les > > ************************ > Leslie R. Lemon > Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist > Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 > E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Illawarra weather Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:50:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wollongong 1:50pm EST Getting quite dark again along the coastal fringe. Winds picking up from the S and getting quite strong and gusting. It will be interesting to have a look at the radar and MSL analysis to see how far down the coast this ECL formed. It may have been a little further north than first anticipated if the wind direction is any guide. Finally, if the winds turn a fraction more to come with a bit of E in it we should get some rain for Michael T's lawns this afternoon. Andrew Godsman > ---------- > From: Andrew Miskelly[SMTP:amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] > Reply To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2000 11:38 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Illawarra weather > > Wollongong 1136 EST > > Actually some nice mamma clouds going over just to the east of > Wollongong at the moment, from a few coldies over the sea by the looks > of the radar. > > I fear that the low has choofed off to the east too quickly taking any > action Wollongong or the escarpment might have got with it. > > Andrew. > > "Godsman, Andrew AG" wrote: > > > > morning all, > > > > Wollongong 6:40am EST, > > Cold Sw winds blowing this morning, with snow a distinct possibility on > the Illawarra Escarpment if the wind turns a little E of S. A few > photogenic coldies off the coast east of Nowra looked good. But definately > snow in the air. > > > > Waiting for the winds to turn with the development of the ECL off the > far NSW south coast. > > > > Andrew Godsman > > > > EOM > > > > NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of > the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby > notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in > reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify > postmaster at bhp.com. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > > -- > Andrew Miskelly > Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW > amiskelly at ozemail.com.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify postmaster at bhp.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: astroman at mail.chariot.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:46:14 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Andrew Wall Subject: Re: aus-wx: THE PARAPARAP REPORT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com EXCELLENT REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It has been a long time in waiting, and what I have seen has been well worth every day, great report, very simple and easy to understand, great work to all who were involved. Andrew Wall At 11:58 AM 8/16/00 +1000, you wrote: >The long-awaited Paraparap Tornado report by Clyve Herbert, Jane O'Neill >with help from a number of other sources, is now available at >www.stormchasers.au.com/paraindex.htm > >or through GWS at >www.pipeline.com.au/users/gws > >Hopefully the MSC page will have its link soon. My congratulations >especially to Clyve & Jane for this excellent and professionally-produced >piece of work, which was done in everyone's "spare time" and has just been >presented to the BoM. Lindsay Smail. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:27:08 +1000 From: Andrew Miskelly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Cricket! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com All hale the start of the cricket season!! I guess it's a good day to be under a roof in Melbourne but the other day would have been better I'd reckon. -- Andrew Miskelly Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW amiskelly at ozemail.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: "MSC (Jane O'Niell)" , "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: THE PARAPARAP REPORT Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:09:07 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Damn fine job on the report. Found it most informative. Congratulations to all who had a hand in it.
 
ust a quick note too Jane, that image50.gif, on Page 14 didn't load up. It's the 04z sat image.
 
PaulY
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 00:57:53 -0400 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mini/weak tornadoes To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id AAA09953 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Bussy wrote: > Just a small question. If buildings were made of something really strong and > copped no apparent damage then what good would the Fujitsu scale be? How > would we know then that a tornado or whatever has been through? Not very > likely to happen, but anything is possible I suppose. Not everything would be undamaged. If the structures are engineered, then knowing what was *not* damaged or moved will help wind engineers to determine the wind speed. But, if there is one structure and it is solidly built and engineered, and goes undamaged, then you could determine a maximum upper bound speed. More often than not, tornadoes in the plains may pass over brush land, hay, or wheat. Then it is simply listed with having an "unknown" intensity. Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.90.194] From: "S G" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Adelaide weather Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:21:22 CST X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2000 06:51:22.0396 (UTC) FILETIME=[6376FDC0:01C0074E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The forecast for the next 7 days in Adelaide sounds better than was expected yesterday, basically the possibilty of a shower or showers every day! Tomorrow sounds like the possible shower could tend to light rain. Anyway you never know the forecast will probably change again, for the worse. Although early next week sounds good with showers becoming widespread. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide weather To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:05:44 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > The forecast for the next 7 days in Adelaide sounds better than was expected > yesterday, basically the possibilty of a shower or showers every day! > Tomorrow sounds like the possible shower could tend to light rain. Anyway > you never know the forecast will probably change again, for the worse. > Although early next week sounds good with showers becoming widespread. > The most recent GASP and EC runs both look quite interesting for around Monday/Tuesday next week, both with cold air pushing well north, although they disagree about the evolution of the sequence (GASP is a fairly conventional cold outbreak, EC develops into a sprawling low over SE Australia). Both scenarios should be good for the already exceptional ski season. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mini/weak tornadoes Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:25:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Bussy. The Fujita scale is based on American building standards and as no building could ever match this standard to 100%, i.e due to variations in materials etc ,even two lengths of timber from the same tree can vary in strengths ,but never the less the Fujita scale is as good as we can get to estimate building resistance strengths and from which we can estimate wind speeds. In respect to designing a building to withstand an F5 tornado the cost to the builder would be prohibitive (unless we live underground) or if we design a building with the structure of a Sherman tank ....even a Sherman tank can be trashed by an F5 tornado!. regards Clyve H ----- Original Message ----- From: bussie To: Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 1:33 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mini/weak tornadoes > Just a small question. If buildings were made of something really strong and > copped no apparent damage then what good would the Fujitsu scale be? How > would we know then that a tornado or whatever has been through? Not very > likely to happen, but anything is possible I suppose. > > Bussy (NE Victoria) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Leslie R. Lemon > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:52 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mini/weak tornadoes > > > > Andrew McDonald wrote: > > > > > Just in relation to a comment made by Leslie..... > > > > > > "The funny thing is that the vast majority (> ~ 60%) of tornadoes that > > occur > > > even here in "Tornado Alley" are "weak" (winds 120 mph or less)" > > > > > > Let me see....120mph = 192km/h......I think that would successfully > > rearrange > > > the roof and maybe a wall or two of a house. I think its amusing what > > > Leslie terms as "weak" and what I/we would consider weak here. I was > out > > > > First, please understand that the value of "120 mph" was essentially off > > the top of my head, if you will. "Weak" tornadoes are classified as F0 > and > > F1. Once again, this is a damage scale and not a wind speed scale. (I > > think we can all recite that in our sleep! ) So much is dependent on > > the structural integrity of that which was damaged, if indeed, there are > > structures to be damaged. If one looks at the *estimated* wind speeds to > > inflict F1 damage, it is less than about 113 mph. > > > > Having said this, my point was that here in the states we virtually NEVER > > hear the term "mini" used in relation to tornadoes. Those words just are > > not juxtaposed! There are a couple videos that come to my mind where in > > one sense the term "mini" might be thought to apply. In both those, there > > is actual condensation that reaches the ground but it is so slender that > it > > would appear "I could put my arms around it!" Needless to say, my arms > > would probably not weather the storm very well. I say that because one of > > these same very slender tornadoes could be seen to uproot trees and send > > them skyward as if they were rockets. Seeing that, I would never call > that > > a "mini". But, it would seem that no matter the intensity of tornadoes in > > Australia, the press will very nearly always view these as "minies". You > > have "fallen and you will never again get up". The press must carefully > > prevent that from happening! LOL > > > > Les > > > > ************************ > > Leslie R. Lemon > > Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist > > Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 > > E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [24.192.0.130] From: "James Pickett" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: w/spout --pictures.. Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:57:03 GMT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2000 07:57:03.0658 (UTC) FILETIME=[90A3D8A0:01C00757] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Taken this morning at around 9.45am from Bondi on wed 16/08/00. Please excuse the Bad scanning job. Need a website also!!!! Unfortunately only one of the water spouts can be seen. The photos are only slightly clearer and even then thanx to the dodgey camera are hard to see. The problem with this storm was the fact that it was too far out to sea meaning that no-one really noticed it, cgs were evident if you watched it closely and if you decided to watch even closer you would have seen the water spouts which were really only visible for around five minutes. No media coverage i dont think, just not as close and exciting as previous ones............ The afternoon weather here was probably more exciting, it sure did close in!!! ENJOY James ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\simon1001.jpg" From: "bussie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: w/spout --pictures.. Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:25:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Grin. Never got the attachment properly Bussy ----- Original Message ----- From: James Pickett To: Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 5:57 PM Subject: aus-wx: w/spout --pictures.. > Taken this morning at around 9.45am from Bondi on wed 16/08/00. > > Please excuse the Bad scanning job. Need a website also!!!! > Unfortunately only one of the water spouts can be seen. The photos are only > slightly clearer and even then thanx to the dodgey camera are hard to see. > The problem with this storm was the fact that it was too far out to sea > meaning that no-one really noticed it, cgs were evident if you watched it > closely and if you decided to watch even closer you would have seen the > water spouts which were really only visible for around five minutes. No > media coverage i dont think, just not as close and exciting as previous > ones............ > The afternoon weather here was probably more exciting, it sure did close > in!!! > > ENJOY > > James > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: MSC pics Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:03:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, I've got a new toy - so I thought I'd put up some pics of yesterdays weather in Melbourne http://www.stormchasers.au.com/15_08_00.htm Enjoy!! Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:50:18 +1000 From: Tony Rance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: "aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Snow in Katoomba Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I live in North Katoomba & awoke around 7:45 am Wednesday to find around 2 cms of snow covering my garden / even more on the car & covering the trees as there was no wind. It was zero degrees. From around 8:15 am it was literally a blizzard of snow. Very heavy snow fell for around 15 minutes, it was small fine flakes but allot of them. The thing that surprises me was how quickly it melted away after it stopped. By 9:30 most of the snow had melted away. Tony +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:13:31 +0930 Subject: aus-wx: Upcoming season - is it all relative? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Howdy all. Just wondering what the upcoming season holds for us all. Looking back at the last 12 months - the abscence of Severe TS last summer down south, a 9th Decile wet here - but lack of TC activity, very busy TC season for NW WA, very wet QLD Summer. What do YOU think will happen this summer? PS Has anyone noticed the lack of Major hurricanes in the US season this year! That or the media isnt bothered anymore - which I doubt. Just seems curious - they had a very busy seaosn last year - wonder if this could reflect here - very active & busy supercell, tornadoe hits Sydney CBD type season? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:27:51 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: AMOS August General Meeting Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com NOTICE OF AUGUST SCIENTIFIC MEETING The next meeting of the AMOS Sydney Centre will be held on Wednesday 30 August, 2000 Venue: University of New South Wales School of Physics Room 27, Old Main Building Parking is available on campus (for a fee), but free parking on Barker St. is probably the best option. The Old Main Building is opposite the Barker St. gate. Time: 7:30 p.m. for a 7:45 p.m. start. The program includes announcements, the current weather situation and forecasts for the week. The main seminar will be on "Winter-time Antarctic Voyage to the Mertz Glacier Polynia", by Dr. Neil Holbrook (full details on next page). Members are invited to join the speaker and committee any time after 6pm for dinner at the highly recommended Mamma Teresa Italian Restaurant, 412 Anzac Pde. Kensington (one block south of UNSW walking distance!). %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% WINTER-TIME ANTARCTIC VOYAGE TO THE MERTZ GLACIER POLYNYA Neil J Holbrook Department of Physical Geography Division of Environmental and Life Sciences Macquarie University, Sydney NSW 2109 E-mail: Neil.Holbrook at mq.edu.au In this presentation, I will discuss my experiences as an invited participating oceanographer aboard the RSV Aurora Australis during the 1999 winter-time voyage near the Antarctic coast associated with the Mertz Glacier Polynya Experiment. The Mertz Glacier Polynya is in the vicinity of 66.5o-67oS, 145oE. The term "polynya" describes a "lake" in the ice (or similar). Aside from the oceanographic component of the Experiment, there were various other science programs on the voyage including sea ice, sea ice and ocean thermal radiation, meteorology, zooplankton/krill, phytoplankton/bacteria, dimethyl sulphide, whales, seals, penguins, and birds. The main programs were the oceanography and sea ice programs, while the other components were "piggy back" programs (i.e., mostly opportunistic time on the voyage, rather than being allocated dedicated time). The interest for the oceanography program was understanding the production rates of Antarctic Bottom Water (AABW) formation and its contribution to the large (global) scale thermohaline circulation and climate. AABW is formed at various locations around the perimeter of the Antarctic continent under certain conditions and is the densest water in the world oceans. It has a temperature close to the freezing point of sea water (at the given salinity), between -1.8C and -1.9C and has a salinity of about 34.65 parts per thousand (or practical salinity units (psu)). The Mertz Glacier Polynya was considered to be an important source of AABW, with expected maximum formation rates during winter-time. The importance of AABW is to ventilate the deep ocean with oxygen (making the abyss more oxygenated than it would otherwise be, important for biology), and to contribute to the large scale thermohaline circulation, important for climate. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Synopsis of Neil Holbrook's background ====================================== Neil is a physical oceanographer and has been a lecturer in atmospheric science at Macquarie University, Sydney, Australia, since January 1996. He completed his undergraduate degree at the University of Sydney (1986-88) majoring in applied mathematics and marine sciences (physical oceanography) and completed his Honours year in physical oceanography in 1989. He then spent two months as a vacation scholar at the CSIRO Division of Oceanography in Hobart, working with Andrew Forbes. After working for a year as a research assistant for Prof Matthias Tomczak during 1990, Neil commenced a PhD at the University of Sydney in physical oceanography in 1991.Dr Nathan Bindoff from the Antarctic CRC, at the University of Tasmania, Hobart, was the primary influence on his PhD project and Neil has continued to actively collaborate with Nathan since the completion of his PhD in 1994. After completion of his PhD, and prior to commencing as a lecturer at Macquarie University, Neil worked as a postdoctoral researcher for Prof Ann Henderson-Sellers in the Climatic Impacts Centre at Macquarie University between October 1994 and January 1996. During this time, Neil was also fortunate to be able to spend 3 months at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, working with Dr Bob Chervin. Neil is an Honorary Research Associate in the Institute of Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies, University of Tasmania. Neil is also a committee member (and past-Chair, 1998-99) of the Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society Sydney Centre. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide weather Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:43:39 GMT X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id HAA09091 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:05:44 +1000 (EST), Blair Trewin wrote: >The most recent GASP and EC runs both look quite interesting for >around Monday/Tuesday next week, both with cold air pushing well >north, although they disagree about the evolution of the sequence >(GASP is a fairly conventional cold outbreak, EC develops into a >sprawling low over SE Australia). Both scenarios should be good for >the already exceptional ski season. The latest (00z) GASP continues to support the outbreak, so it's not a one-run wonder. At 00z Wednesday, it has a cold pool <528 over eastern Victoria, with 536 thickness and -2 850 temp well into northern NSW, and plenty of precipitation across NSW and Vic, presumably from the pre-frontal NWlys. The latest (00z) MRF for Tuesday adds support, with strong ridging well south of Tasmania and -3 to -6 850 temps surging across southern WA/SA behind a 980hPa low west of Tasmania. Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------