From: "Debbie Parker" <debp at rie.net.au>
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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 00:24:31 +1000
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<snip>Are you saying a wave can be 60.2 metres i.e. ~181 feet .......

Yes, I've heard of this record too. The fetch to King Island has to be
thousands of kilometres - assuming a typical SW.
I'm sure there is a mathematical model - I think someone may have mentioned
it before - but one thing to keep in mind is that the height of the wave
increases as the depth of the water decreases. (The number 12 seems to ring
a bell???) You can have enormous amounts of energy below the surface in very
deep water but it is only when the water depth begins to decrease that you
get the big waves - e.g. Hawaii. I don't know exactly where the wave rider
buoy is off King Island but I'd say it at least has to be on the continental
shelf to get a height like 60.2m. There can't be too many places in the
world where you have such a long fetch meeting such a relatively shallow
water depth as you have around King Island & the West Coast of Tassie? Bass
Strait is notorious for the waves it generates partly because it is shallow
and because our prevailing wind comes from the SW which gives plenty of
opportunity to build up big waves. The shallow water makes the waves stand
up more and helps make them 'backless' which is bad for boats! King Island
provides some shelter but also increases the tidal flow which exacerbates
the situation.
The film certainly didn't exaggerate! Even I've seen est. 50+ footers in
relatively 'moderate' (45 knots sustained SW) conditions in Bass Strait - if
you are heading towards them the boat ( & you) freefall for what seems like
an eternity until you crash into the trough at the bottom. Not very pleasant
& very difficult to sleep!
The film had lots of inconsistencies in real details but made for a really
good story anyway.
I thought the most annoying part was the rescue footage - they seemed to be
way off reality there.
I heard that the boat in the film (Andrea Gail) was a twisted wreck when it
was recovered which suggests that it was 'dumped' by a wave.
The satellite pictures were good too but played too little a part in the
film to get much out of it.

Hope those who haven't seen the film yet haven't been deterred by anything
that's been said yet!

Cheers

Debbie Parker

Boronia, Melbourne

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> Are you saying a wave can be 60.2 metres ie ~181 feet (I presume that's
trough
> to peak)!!!!!!  tall & have been generated by a cyclone / typhoon/
hurricane?
> What sort of amplitude would we be talking here? So they weren't
exaggerating in
> the movie? I wondered if some of those waves were stretching the
imagination
> just a little bit......
>
> What's the largest recorded wave on the Australian mainland, anything like
that
> or isn't the fetch long enough to generate waves that size?
>
> I probably shouldn't ask this question <cringe>, but is there a
methematical
> model for wave size as a function of length of fetch & other things?
>
> Jane
> --------------------------------
> Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
> Melbourne Storm Chasers
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com
>
> Check out the MSC Cafe at
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm
>
> ASWA - Victoria
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> --------------------------------
>
> clyve herbert wrote:
>
> > Hi wave  people
> >  After seeing the Perfect Storm ,i started digging around for large wave
> > information and guess where the largest officially recorded wave was
> > measured (world record) yep in Australia ... A wave buoy off King
island
> > measured 60.2m, but i cant remember the year, can anyone help ,this of
> > coarse is a storm generated wave not a tidal or tsunami.
> > regards Clyve H
> >
>
> David Jones wrote:
> What caught my attention were,
> the
> > Sable Island (sp?) wave buoy measured a 30m wave with this storm! and
that
> > the rescue helicopter guy who died was in fact the first to jump from
the
> > helicopter (ie he wasn't trapped). The suspicion was that he landed in a
> > wave trough and the extra ~100 feet of fall may have been enough to kill
> him
> > outright.
>
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Hi all,

radar echoes show a medium to large area of thunderstorms approaching 
Adelaide, moving WSW due to hit coast line with in the next 60 minutes. 
Radio  indicates lightning every 1 minute sometimes less. Very strong static.

I may miss this one, due to work commitments lets hope it puts on a good show.

Andrew

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From: "Nathan Thompson" <philmed at health.on.net>
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Subject: aus-wx: Possible thunderstorms for Adelaide today.
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Hi all,

There are possible thunderstorms for Adelaide mostly this morning today.

I can see nice LFTX forecast on AVN on 8 Aug at 00Z 9:30am 0 to -3 and 03Z
12:30pm -2 to -4 and 06Z 3:30pm 0 to -2.

FORECAST FOR THE ADELAIDE METROPOLITAN AREA
Issued at 5:30 am on Tuesday, 8 August 2000
For Tuesday.

Please do not use this forecast after midday Tuesday.

ADELAIDE WARNINGS
Nil.

IDS1003401
ADELAIDE METROPOLITAN AREA
Tuesday    :   Mostly cloudy with a few showers. Freshening north to
northwest
winds shifting northwest to west during the morning.

Adelaide City  Max 16

Hope to get something. :)

From Nathan Thompson.

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From: "Nathan Thompson" <philmed at health.on.net>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: STORM: Approaching Adelaide!
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 06:15:46 +0930
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Hi Andrew,

This is Nathan,

Yes, um the Aviation briefing went:
[05:58] <Naththo> TTF METAR YPAD 2000Z 25006KT 9999 FEW040 BKN100 12/08
Q1010 RMK
[05:58] <Naththo>        RF00.0/000.8 LIGHTNING OVER YORKE PENINSULA INTER
2000/2300 4000
[05:58] <Naththo>        SHOWERS OF RAIN BKN008.
My static radio not working properly so I just stuff this up. Good to hear
from you about the storms. :)

I got my video camera ready and camera ready also.

Hope to get something.
From Nathan.


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> From: Andrew Wall <astroman at chariot.net.au>
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: aus-wx: STORM: Approaching Adelaide!
> Date: Tuesday, 8 August 2000 5:50
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> radar echoes show a medium to large area of thunderstorms approaching 
> Adelaide, moving WSW due to hit coast line with in the next 60 minutes. 
> Radio  indicates lightning every 1 minute sometimes less. Very strong
static.
> 
> I may miss this one, due to work commitments lets hope it puts on a good
show.
> 
> Andrew
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According to various sources, the highest wave reliably observed is 34
metres, experienced by the USS Ramapo in the north Pacific on the night
of February 6-7, back in 1933. The mean wind speed at the time was 126
km/hr. The highest instumentally observed wave is 26 metres from crest
to trough recorded on the ocean wesather ship, "Weather Recorder"  at
59N 19W (in the Atlantic) on 30 December 1972.
so, as for 60 metres, well......
It is a bit like snow.... well exaggerated.

don White 


Debbie Parker wrote:
> 
> <snip>Are you saying a wave can be 60.2 metres i.e. ~181 feet .......
> 
> Yes, I've heard of this record too. The fetch to King Island has to be
> thousands of kilometres - assuming a typical SW.
> I'm sure there is a mathematical model - I think someone may have mentioned
> it before - but one thing to keep in mind is that the height of the wave
> increases as the depth of the water decreases. (The number 12 seems to ring
> a bell???) You can have enormous amounts of energy below the surface in very
> deep water but it is only when the water depth begins to decrease that you
> get the big waves - e.g. Hawaii. I don't know exactly where the wave rider
> buoy is off King Island but I'd say it at least has to be on the continental
> shelf to get a height like 60.2m. There can't be too many places in the
> world where you have such a long fetch meeting such a relatively shallow
> water depth as you have around King Island & the West Coast of Tassie? Bass
> Strait is notorious for the waves it generates partly because it is shallow
> and because our prevailing wind comes from the SW which gives plenty of
> opportunity to build up big waves. The shallow water makes the waves stand
> up more and helps make them 'backless' which is bad for boats! King Island
> provides some shelter but also increases the tidal flow which exacerbates
> the situation.
> The film certainly didn't exaggerate! Even I've seen est. 50+ footers in
> relatively 'moderate' (45 knots sustained SW) conditions in Bass Strait - if
> you are heading towards them the boat ( & you) freefall for what seems like
> an eternity until you crash into the trough at the bottom. Not very pleasant
> & very difficult to sleep!
> The film had lots of inconsistencies in real details but made for a really
> good story anyway.
> I thought the most annoying part was the rescue footage - they seemed to be
> way off reality there.
> I heard that the boat in the film (Andrea Gail) was a twisted wreck when it
> was recovered which suggests that it was 'dumped' by a wave.
> The satellite pictures were good too but played too little a part in the
> film to get much out of it.
> 
> Hope those who haven't seen the film yet haven't been deterred by anything
> that's been said yet!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Debbie Parker
> 
> Boronia, Melbourne
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Perfect Storm?
> 
> > Are you saying a wave can be 60.2 metres ie ~181 feet (I presume that's
> trough
> > to peak)!!!!!!  tall & have been generated by a cyclone / typhoon/
> hurricane?
> > What sort of amplitude would we be talking here? So they weren't
> exaggerating in
> > the movie? I wondered if some of those waves were stretching the
> imagination
> > just a little bit......
> >
> > What's the largest recorded wave on the Australian mainland, anything like
> that
> > or isn't the fetch long enough to generate waves that size?
> >
> > I probably shouldn't ask this question <cringe>, but is there a
> methematical
> > model for wave size as a function of length of fetch & other things?
> >
> > Jane
> > --------------------------------
> > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> >
> > Melbourne Storm Chasers
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> >
> > Check out the MSC Cafe at
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm
> >
> > ASWA - Victoria
> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> > --------------------------------
> >
> > clyve herbert wrote:
> >
> > > Hi wave  people
> > >  After seeing the Perfect Storm ,i started digging around for large wave
> > > information and guess where the largest officially recorded wave was
> > > measured (world record) yep in Australia ... A wave buoy off King
> island
> > > measured 60.2m, but i cant remember the year, can anyone help ,this of
> > > coarse is a storm generated wave not a tidal or tsunami.
> > > regards Clyve H
> > >
> >
> > David Jones wrote:
> > What caught my attention were,
> > the
> > > Sable Island (sp?) wave buoy measured a 30m wave with this storm! and
> that
> > > the rescue helicopter guy who died was in fact the first to jump from
> the
> > > helicopter (ie he wasn't trapped). The suspicion was that he landed in a
> > > wave trough and the extra ~100 feet of fall may have been enough to kill
> > him
> > > outright.
> >
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I think I must've heard wrong on the radio. I thought they said November
8th. Time to clean my ears out.
Bussy

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> Further to my last post, thought I'd better send this - straight from the
> horses mouth.. (and posted on www.ski.com.au). As always, the usual grain
of
> salt needed to digest some of the PR hype!!
>
> "Keen skiers and boarders have been flocking to the slopes of Mount Hotham
> enjoying the fantastic snow conditions after record snowfalls, the average
> natural snowdepths in July 2000, being greater than any snowdepths in July
> since 1964.
>
> Colin Hackworth, Managing Director of the Mount Hotham Skiing Company
> confirmed that the ski lifts at Mount Hotham and sister resort, Falls
Creek,
> will remain operating until October 8, an extension of one week. Mr
> Hackworth said that "the snow conditions are so fantastic that there will
be
> great quality snow right through to mid October".
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From: Harald Richter <hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov>
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Folks:

NOAA-12 is seeing some good convection at

http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA26748.gif

The best convection seems to occur over an area 
where very cold upper temperatures on the back side of 
a the trough overspread a kidney-shaped region of locally
higher SSTs (16-18 C):  

http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/web_point/

AVN forecast for 21Z/07 Aug shows a blob
of -25 C temps at 500 hPa behind the trough: 

http://sgi62.wwb.noaa.gov:8080/cgi-bin/disp_avn.sh?ctlfile=avn_12z.ctl&ptype=map&var=TMP&level=500&nlevels=26&op1=none&op2=none&hour=21Z&day=07&month=aug&year=2000&proj=aust&lon0=280&dlon=50&lat0=-60&dlat=60&type=shaded&cint=def&white=def&plotsize=800x600&title=

Also,  there is an interesting intrusion of 10+ C surface dewpoints 
in SW QLD in the 20 UTC surface data.  
If the cold air aloft is heading that way ...

Harald 

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Hi all,

When have we decided this to happen. I am inclined to make it the two weeks 
or so last week November and first week December. People must know when 
they can take time off and plan..

Jimmy Deguara
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Yes Harald. That is the area I would have chased had I taken the day off. 
Don't forget the jet which is a maximum over the same reion this afternoon.

I am waiting the outcome. We also need to see drier air aloft which is why 
I believe it will happen towards the rear of a cloud band or along the 
trough line as you suggested. I will be watching things during the day...

Jimmy Deguara



At 04:24 PM 7/08/00 -0500, you wrote:

>Folks:
>
>NOAA-12 is seeing some good convection at
>
>http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA26748.gif
>
>The best convection seems to occur over an area
>where very cold upper temperatures on the back side of
>a the trough overspread a kidney-shaped region of locally
>higher SSTs (16-18 C):
>
>http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/web_point/
>
>AVN forecast for 21Z/07 Aug shows a blob
>of -25 C temps at 500 hPa behind the trough:
>
>http://sgi62.wwb.noaa.gov:8080/cgi-bin/disp_avn.sh?ctlfile=avn_12z.ctl&ptype=map&var=TMP&level=500&nlevels=26&op1=none&op2=none&hour=21Z&day=07&month=aug&year=2000&proj=aust&lon0=280&dlon=50&lat0=-60&dlat=60&type=shaded&cint=def&white=def&plotsize=800x600&title=
>
>Also,  there is an interesting intrusion of 10+ C surface dewpoints
>in SW QLD in the 20 UTC surface data.
>If the cold air aloft is heading that way ...
>
>Harald
>
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From: David Jones <D.Jones at bom.gov.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: this years snow depths...
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Lindsay,

take a lookie at http://www.snowyhydro.com.au/environment/snow.cfm 
The Snowy Mt data is the most reliable of any snow course data, and dates 
back nearly 50 years. The three courses also range across a good
geographical area/altitude meaning they give a good general picture.
I (personally) would not waste my time with the other data, and especially
that which is fragmented (eg the Falls Creek record), which misses nearly 10
years around 1950 - I am not convinced that identical locations/recording
technique would recommence after a break of 10 years!

I haven't looked at this quantitatively, but as usual the ski industry
statements are hyperbole! Looking at the most recent snow depths (3rd of
August),

Spencers Creek (1830 m - out from Charlotte Pass)  174.7 cm
Deep Creek (1620 m - SW of Cabramurra)  106.4 cm
Three Mile Dam (1460 m - below Mt Selwyn)  21.7 cm

These compare with (aprox) 200, 160, and 100 cm in 1995, so the "season" is
currently running the best since 1995. In 1996 it really started dumping
about now, so the 96 season depths may run ahead of this season pretty soon.


All that said, I have just got back from 3 nights at Hotham where the skiing
was excellent and combined with fantastic weather... All up the best
trip/combination of snow/weather I can remember.

Cheers,

David.


 
                                                             
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Well this morning was wierd, looked as if I'd get wet riding into tafe this 
morning, but it didn't rain at all.
Cloud cleared away very rapidly, looked like the morning roll of way up 
north, Stratus cloud rolling over and over, like a length of pipe rolling 
off a truck

Gee since it's my 22nd birthday, I'd love some "weather" for it, hehehehehe
Les
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hi there Jim, I hope your right, a Supercell would be great on my 22nd, 
seeing as that's today :o)

Oh should have some pics (x2) from the last cold air outbreak from here in 
Ballarat, 2 nice Cold Air Cells.
Les


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>Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 18:25:40 +1000
>
>Hi Jimmy here from Schofields Sydney
>
>I have watched the development of this system over the past couple of days
>especially since the previous system left some moisture inland. This
>moisture has again built up and is causing some development in W NSW and
>Victoria. Tomorrow I expect from the models to be a great day for chasing
>in those areas. It seems though that timing and the amount of moisture will
>determine whether Sydney will get a fair does of some of this weather.
>There is a circulation just SW of Victoria.
>
>The jet at 300hPa is nicely curved and will therefore provide for excellent
>wind shear. There is good directional wind shear in Central NSW as well
>with NNE winds expected around the circulation. I think this provides for
>an excellent storm chasing situation. I wouldn't be surprised to see
>supercells tomorrow. Well that is my bet.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
>
>At 08:03 AM 7/08/00 +0000, you wrote:
>>Ballarat just had a drowning, a very heavy shower went through Alfredton
>>about 30mins ago, a weak Cb the culpret, no flash bang though.
>>But more is to come, showers and the chance of a t-storm. Can't wait for
>>spring!
>>LEs
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Hi every1,

Interesting article on the GHCC site...

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/Newsletter/070700.htm

Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.
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Upon my return from my coffee break I noticed: nice, well formed, sharply 
defined Ac Castles above Ballarat and to the west, hmmmmmmm interesting, I'm 
starting to like today already. The sky is a deep blue which would indicate 
the air is pretty mosture layden.

Les
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Subject: aus-wx: july data for tallai
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<DIV>Hi All</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>July was the driest month, since my records started.&nbsp;&nbsp; Only 
12.5mm, and 3 raindays, but also July's average min was by far my lowest at 
7.16C.&nbsp; The max average was up by 0.6 over the previous July at 
19.98C.</DIV>
<DIV>Lowest min was 1.8. highest min was 14.3, Lowest max was 11.8, highest 
23.9.</DIV>
<DIV>4 light frosts, 2 days less than 2.2C.&nbsp; Rainfall for 2000 so far is 
656.5mm</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I have a members gallery on the Brisbane Storm Chasers site&nbsp; <A 
href="http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/">http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/</A>.&nbsp; 
I've sent Ben some pics of the Guyra snowchase to scan.&nbsp; I have alot more - 
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<DIV>Guyra hospital ( where they record temps etc) recorded 3/4 inches (7- 10cm) 
of snow.&nbsp;Though it was deeper in areas such as the lagoon, drains beside 
the roads.&nbsp; Thanks Lauier for the compliement.&nbsp; It was my first snow 
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Hi all, (Written offline Tuesday Afternoon)

Further to Don's emails on the subject, I thought it might be valuable
to re-post Laurier's email from some weeks ago on measuring snow depth
etc. Hope you don't mind Laurier, it helped me and I think it is worth
looking at again.

I have started using the board method (When I can) and whilst it takes
effort to maintain this approach, I have found it a valuable tool,
especially in observing differences to snow drift and snowfall. 

Anyone, feel free to contribute more to this subject as I wouldn't mind
setting up a file with some standard procedures for measuring and
observing snow to help folk on the list, including me!

Perhaps I have been guilty of this too, but I have noticed reports in my
region of "Very heavy snow" from some folk and yet to me, it didn't seem
more than light to moderate albeit persistant snow, at the time. Can we
discuss terms like "light", "moderate" and "heavy" and how they might be
applied whilst observing snow or indeed other appropriate ways of
describing snowfall? I understand that in America such terms can vary in
meaning from region to region. Leslie R Lemon, is this true? 


Cheers,


Lindsay Pearce



Laurier Williams wrote:
> 
> Lindsay, the method I use is to stuff the snow sitting on top of the
> gauge into the gauge, then add a measured amount of hot water
> (measured in mm in the gauge measuring cylinder), then subtract the
> hot water. So, e.g., measure 10mm of hot water, pour onto snow in
> gauge, tip it all back into the measuring cylinder, and subtract the
> 10mm. This is pretty rough and ready and only works with lighter
> snowfalls. Once the cylinder of snow that develops on top of the gauge
> exceeds 5cm or so, wind will dislodge parts of it and reduce the
> reading, so you need to do it often in heavier falls. The method
> probably works better with standard 8 inch gauges than the smaller
> plastic variety, too.
> 
> Alternatively, place a piece of plywood in a level place which is both
> sheltered from strong wind and not likely to be in an eddy or
> depression which will attract drift snow. Measure the snow depth on
> the board in cm, and regularly sweep the board clear and replace it on
> the surface of the snow. Add your cm totals and divide by 13 for dry
> snow and 10 for wet snow to convert to mm. (I'm taking those figures
> from memory and stand to be corrected.) The secret is to measure
> frequently in heavier snowfalls, as the snow will pack down under its
> own weight or due to any thawing. If you keep an eye on the behavious
> of snow accumulation on the board, it also gives you some idea of how
> much catch is snow*fall* and how much is snow*drift*, and you can
> improve accuracy by making a subjective deduction of the snowdrift
> from the total.
> 
> All that said, precipitation measurement during snowfall is a very
> inexact science.
> 
> Laurier
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Howdy all

Just heard that a tornado occured in the SE town of Robe this morning,
co-inciding with the passage of a front.  Apparently sheds, boats etc were
damaged.  It may have been a waterspout coming ashore, reminding one of the
waterspout that went up the main street of Penneshaw on Kangaroo island 2
years ago.  Damage is in the $100000 but I have no more details.  More news
as it comes to hand.

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Hi Les

HAPPY BIRTHDAY :)

I hope you get some weather too :)

Max

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> Well this morning was wierd, looked as if I'd get wet riding into tafe
this
> morning, but it didn't rain at all.
> Cloud cleared away very rapidly, looked like the morning roll of way up
> north, Stratus cloud rolling over and over, like a length of pipe rolling
> off a truck
>
> Gee since it's my 22nd birthday, I'd love some "weather" for it,
hehehehehe
> Les
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Hi every1,

Like Les I've been looking forward to some interesting wx and it looks like 
it could be today!!! Large cumulus towers building to the north and east at 
the moment (1.30 p.m. local) and a line of Acc forming to the west and 
north-west. Definitely an expectant feel in the air! Line of storms looks to 
be building on latest satpic on the SA/Vic border - here's hoping that they 
get here before dark - wouldn't want to reduce the solar insolation too 
much! :)) It's quite balmy here at the minute - about 18 C...

Cheers,
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The film certainly didn't exaggerate! Even I've 
seen est. 50+ footers in<BR>relatively 'moderate' (45 knots sustained SW) 
conditions in Bass Strait - if<BR>you are heading towards them the boat ( &amp; 
you) freefall for what seems like<BR>an eternity until you crash into the trough 
at the bottom. Not very pleasant<BR>&amp; very difficult to 
sleep!<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>I can back that up too. I crossed Bass 
straight in mid April 86 on the Abel Tasman. There was another ship following us 
out through the heads. When we were on top of the wave he was at the bottom, and 
in the dark it was awesome to watch. Even made more pleasant by hanging over the 
side with a few beers. &lt;g&gt; I remember it was very windy and I was flat out 
trying to stand in it and got soaked as well, but loved it.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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That's one hell of a wave!!!!
Bussy
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> Hi wave  people
>  After seeing the Perfect Storm ,i started digging around for large wave
> information and guess where the largest officially recorded wave was
> measured (world record) yep in Australia ... A wave buoy off King  island
> measured 60.2m, but i cant remember the year, can anyone help ,this of
> coarse is a storm generated wave not a tidal or tsunami.
> regards Clyve H
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Jones <D.Jones at bom.gov.au>
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> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 11:03 AM
> Subject: aus-wx: Perfect Storm?
>
>
> > >Debbie & I voted it 3.5 - 4 out of 5.  We probably behaved very badly
for
> a
> > pair
> > >of grownups but we enjoyed ourselves immensely!!  Karen was far more
> > controlled
> > >with her outbursts <g>
> > >
> > >I didn't need seasick pills which I found highly encouraging, and
Debbie
> > >shouldn't by now seeing as she yachts *outside* the Heads on a regular
> > >basis.....
> >
> > Must admit I enjoyed this film much more than expected. While it was
> riddled
> > with American Clichés, the "wave" footage was very impressive, and it
> really
> > got me thinking about how bad conditions could get at sea. BTW the
> National
> > Geographic channel had a documentary last about the events surrounding
> this
> > storm - about a 3.5 on the rating scale. What caught my attention were,
> the
> > Sable Island (sp?) wave buoy measured a 30m wave with this storm! and
that
> > the rescue helicopter guy who died was in fact the first to jump from
the
> > helicopter (ie he wasn't trapped). The suspicion was that he landed in a
> > wave trough and the extra ~100 feet of fall may have been enough to kill
> him
> > outright.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > David.
> >
> >
> > Dr David Jones
> >
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Hi Everyone,

No-one seems to know much about the Tornado at Emerald - Emerald is in a
radar hole and the bureaus AWS was 'knocked out' at the beginning of the
storm so there's pretty much bugger all info in the way of observations

Damage reported to the bureau so far is of course the circus big top tent
that was 'demolished', some minor house damage and lots and lots of tree
damage




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> Hi Everyone,
>
> A mate of mine Adam Cole just alerted me of a news report on his local TV
> station (he lives in Warwick, SW of Brisbane) about a Tornado in Emerald
> yesterday which blew away a Circus tent - no further details as yet, but
> i'll see if i can contact the TV station for more info
>
> I honestly can't remember seeing anything of interest around Emerald on
the
> sat pics yesterday
>
> For those who don't know where Emerald is a map showing its location is
> below
>
> http://www.auslig.gov.au/cgi-bin/gazdraw?10643598
>
>
>
>
> Ben Quinn
>
> The Brisbane Storm Chasers Homepage
> http://www.brisbanestormchasers.com
> The Australian Weather Pages Webring
> http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/webring/index.htm
> The NEMAS (North East Media of Atmospheric Science) Weather Education
> Section
> http://www.nemas.net
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VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE


Thunderstorm Warning

Issued at 2:38pm on Tuesday the 8th of August 2000 forthe Melbourne
Metropolitan
Area

A few thunderstorms have developed near the southern end of Port Phillip Bay
and
there is the chance of further thunderstorms around the metropolitan area
this
afternoon and tonight.

Tony Middleton has his eye on a cell approaching Wonthaggi atm!!

Stay tuned for more as the afternoon progresses.

Jane
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hey all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>After return home from work sick (got sent home) 
today I slept for a few hours only to wake up with a CB in my view out my 
window.....(yeah i thought i was dreaming too). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Some nice storms developed over the S end of Port 
Phillip Bay with some briefly reaching peak intensity on radar before 
weakening.&nbsp; I got to use my new video camera for the first time :-).&nbsp; 
After the storms had weakened the BoM decided to issue a garden variety 
thunderstorm warning for Metro Melbourne for later today.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also of note is the Severe Thunderstorm Warning for 
the Riverina, Lower Western and Upper Western of NSW.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just thought I'd let a few people know what we do 
on our sick days down here in Vic.....hehe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>TTYL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From: Blair Trewin <blair at atlas.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au>
Subject: aus-wx: Back on deck/California hailstorm
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I'm now back on the scene (currently ploughing through the small
matter of 1647 e-mails!). Hopefully I'll be able to get round to
replying to anything relevant in the next couple of days.

My pursuit of interesting weather didn't stop in Scandinavia. Last
Thursday (when I was walking in Yosemite National Park) there was
a long succession of thunderstorms. Summer thunderstorms are not 
particularly uncommon in the Sierra Nevada, but most of them have no
precipitation that reaches the ground (lightning strikes from such
storms have been responsible for most of the fires in the news lately);
August mean monthly rainfalls are typically in the 5-10mm range (with no
California station that I could find topping 15). One of the storms
started two small bushfires within a couple of kilometres of me
(fortunately it wasn't windy), but it was a later one that really took
the cake, starting with heavy rain and then developing into a 
sizeable hailstorm. The hail was not particularly large (1.5cm was
about as big as it got), but there was enough for a fairly complete
ground cover. (The hail also stopped me from doing the final ascent
of Half Dome - this is basically a long walk but the last 300m or so
is a climb up sloping granite, some of it with the help of cables.
The rock became too slippery to climb on, especially as the spur you
climb up is only a few metres wide and if you slip off it's a 1200-
metre drop!).

All this was interesting but not really exceptional. The exceptional
bit came the next morning on leaving the park. It had been obvious 
looking from Half Dome that the storm had lingered over the higher
elevations to the east, but just how it had lingered became stunningly
obvious when I arrived at the visitor centre at Tuolumne Meadows (in
the central eastern part of the park, north-east of the main valley
and about 2600 metres in elevation) to see an almost 100% ground 
cover, almost 24 hours after the storm! At this point, there was 
probably an average cover of 2cm depth, with drifts of 5-10cm. It 
looked like snow (and most people thought it was snow), but individual
hailstones were still visible. This amount of hail was remaining 
despite the fact that temperatures had been well above freezing
throughout (probably down to 5-8 overnight, and up to the mid- to
high teens by the time I arrived at about 10); the volume of hail
that must have been deposited by the storm would have been
phenomenal. Even in places which had been exposed to full sunlight
for several hours ice remained on the ground.

A notice on the board at the visitor centre said that they had recorded
2.5 inches (63.5mm) of rain, but I don't know if this was an official
observation (Tuolumne Meadows doesn't appear in any of the station
listings that I have). 

There was also a newspaper report of a tornado/waterspout at Lake
Tahoe, about 200km to the north. I haven't seen any official
confirmation of this.

I will be following this one up further with my contacts in the US.
I suspect that the volume of hail associated with this storm is 
extremely rare, perhaps even unprecedented, in California, which would
make me feel a bit better about being caught underneath it whilst
bushwalking :-). If my photos turn out and I can get access to a
scanner I'll also try to get some posted on the web.

The other interesting sidelight was the joy of listening to a 
metropolitan San Francisco Bay Area forecast on the radio; 'highs
ranging from the mid-50s (13 C) near the ocean to near 100 (38 C) in
the eastern valleys'. Makes the Sydney-Richmond contrast seem pretty
tame....

Blair Trewin
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From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
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Hi Jimmy,

Everyone is organising their own thing this year in their own groups,
there's no such date at which people can go...it's up to the individuals
themselves to become actively involved and make up their own groups.

Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> When have we decided this to happen. I am inclined to make it the two weeks
> or so last week November and first week December. People must know when
> they can take time off and plan..
> 
> Jimmy Deguara
> -----------------------------------------
> Jimmy Deguara
> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
> 
> from
> Schofields, Sydney
> NSW Australia
> 
> e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
> 
> Web Page with Michael Bath
> 
> Australian Severe Weather Home Page
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com
> 
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> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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(ASWA)
(07) 3390 4812
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>From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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>Subject: aus-wx: Thunderstorm Warning for Vic
>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 15:04:57 +1000
>
>BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
>VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
>
>
>Thunderstorm Warning
>
>Issued at 2:38pm on Tuesday the 8th of August 2000 forthe Melbourne
>Metropolitan
>Area
>
>A few thunderstorms have developed near the southern end of Port Phillip 
>Bay
>and
>there is the chance of further thunderstorms around the metropolitan area
>this
>afternoon and tonight.
>
>Tony Middleton has his eye on a cell approaching Wonthaggi atm!!
>
>Stay tuned for more as the afternoon progresses.
>
>Jane
>---------------------------------------
>Jane ONeill
>cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
>Melbourne Storm Chasers
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com
>
>ASWA - Victoria
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Kick arse
I have my eye on cells everywhere at the moment, pity I'm in class, doh!
nice line of Towers to the NE and a new line to the west.
Cbs yup. No Flash bang though :o( C'mon mother nature!

Nice popcorn makers I'd say due north.
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From: "Peter Matters" <pmatters at eck.net.au>
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Hi all,
       Check the radar from Echuca south! Pinks/greens/yellows; like a
rainbow!

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>From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: "Aussie Weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Subject: aus-wx: Thunderstorm Warning for Vic
>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 15:04:57 +1000
>
>BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
>VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
>
>
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>
>Issued at 2:38pm on Tuesday the 8th of August 2000 forthe Melbourne
>Metropolitan
>Area
>
>A few thunderstorms have developed near the southern end of Port Phillip
>Bay
>and
>there is the chance of further thunderstorms around the metropolitan area
>this
>afternoon and tonight.
>
>Tony Middleton has his eye on a cell approaching Wonthaggi atm!!
>
>Stay tuned for more as the afternoon progresses.
>
>Jane
>---------------------------------------
>Jane ONeill
>cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
>Melbourne Storm Chasers
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com
>
>ASWA - Victoria
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Kick arse
I have my eye on cells everywhere at the moment, pity I'm in class, doh!
nice line of Towers to the NE and a new line to the west.
Cbs yup. No Flash bang though :o( C'mon mother nature!

Nice popcorn makers I'd say due north.
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From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: End of Year Chase 2000
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Hi guys,

I think that working around a time frame such as Jimmy mentioned is not a
bad idea regardless of how we organise the individual groups. Having dates
at least allows us to find out who's going to be where and when, so that if
we'd like to co-ordinate things we have a bit more knowledge to help us plan
with.......

Just my 2c (rounded up to 5c including GST)

Jane
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Jane ONeill
cadence at stormchasers.au.com

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
---------------------------------------

Anthony wrote:
Everyone is organising their own thing this year in their own groups,
there's no such date at which people can go...it's up to the individuals
themselves to become actively involved and make up their own groups.

Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> When have we decided this to happen. I am inclined to make it the two
weeks
> or so last week November and first week December. People must know when
> they can take time off and plan..


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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 02:41:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Zac" <mnk at Dingoblue.net.au>
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Issued at 1448 on Tuesday the 8th of August 2000

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Thunderstorms have developed within the advice area and are forecast to
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nice looking multicell south east of Daylesford at 
1600hrs another cell to north reaching 100mm+ has a what appeares to be a clear 
notch incursion on the west side.A carefull study of the top showed some 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hey all,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>After return home from work sick (got sent home) 
  today I slept for a few hours only to wake up with a CB in my view out my 
  window.....(yeah i thought i was dreaming too). </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Some nice storms developed over the S end of Port 
  Phillip Bay with some briefly reaching peak intensity on radar before 
  weakening.&nbsp; I got to use my new video camera for the first time 
  :-).&nbsp; After the storms had weakened the BoM decided to issue a garden 
  variety thunderstorm warning for Metro Melbourne for later today.&nbsp; 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also of note is the Severe Thunderstorm Warning 
  for the Riverina, Lower Western and Upper Western of NSW.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just thought I'd let a few people know what we do 
  on our sick days down here in Vic.....hehe</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>TTYL</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Enjoy.</FONT></DIV>
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Hi Jimmy and all.
I think the window period is as you said last week of Nov and first week of
Dec .Im not sure how many are coming from Vic I am trying to arrange about a
week at this time and i am looking forward to hitting the road although i
will be giving Thargominda a miss! Hopefully north east N.S.W and southeast
Q.L.D.will be firering up. regards Clyve.
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> Hi Jimmy,
>
> Everyone is organising their own thing this year in their own groups,
> there's no such date at which people can go...it's up to the individuals
> themselves to become actively involved and make up their own groups.
>
> Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > When have we decided this to happen. I am inclined to make it the two
weeks
> > or so last week November and first week December. People must know when
> > they can take time off and plan..
> >
> > Jimmy Deguara
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Jimmy Deguara
> > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
> >
> > from
> > Schofields, Sydney
> > NSW Australia
> >
> > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
> >
> > Web Page with Michael Bath
> >
> > Australian Severe Weather Home Page
> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com
> >
> > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> >
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Hi,

ummm I made a critical error in my report on the storms :( the storms were 
moving ESE not WSW.



At 06:15 AM 8/8/00 +0930, you wrote:
>Hi Andrew,
>
>This is Nathan,
>
>Yes, um the Aviation briefing went:
>[05:58] <Naththo> TTF METAR YPAD 2000Z 25006KT 9999 FEW040 BKN100 12/08
>Q1010 RMK
>[05:58] <Naththo>        RF00.0/000.8 LIGHTNING OVER YORKE PENINSULA INTER
>2000/2300 4000
>[05:58] <Naththo>        SHOWERS OF RAIN BKN008.
>My static radio not working properly so I just stuff this up. Good to hear
>from you about the storms. :)
>
>I got my video camera ready and camera ready also.
>
>Hope to get something.
> >From Nathan.
>
>
>----------
> > From: Andrew Wall <astroman at chariot.net.au>
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: aus-wx: STORM: Approaching Adelaide!
> > Date: Tuesday, 8 August 2000 5:50
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > radar echoes show a medium to large area of thunderstorms approaching
> > Adelaide, moving WSW due to hit coast line with in the next 60 minutes.
> > Radio  indicates lightning every 1 minute sometimes less. Very strong
>static.
> >
> > I may miss this one, due to work commitments lets hope it puts on a good
>show.
> >
> > Andrew
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From: "Nathan Thompson" <philmed at health.on.net>
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Hi all,

This is Nathan again,

At last, we had a good storm this morning. Around Dawn time, I saw 2
flashes of lightning, one over South and one over WNW. Very nice cloud tops
I supposed. Then it approached here and got so dark around near 8am. But
d'oh, Too much stratus covered to give us a poor view of lightning. So it
wasn't good. The skies were very dark. We had very heavy rain and few
lightning flashes. My weather station recorded rain rate up to 73mm/hr. Got
9.5mm from it. I also have video it of the storms with video camera. I
enjoyed my morning.  During the day, the weather was just bored. lol

Oh well, hope to see some more again next time.

From Nathan.

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> From: Nathan Thompson <philmed at health.on.net>
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: aus-wx: Possible thunderstorms for Adelaide today.
> Date: Tuesday, 8 August 2000 5:55
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> There are possible thunderstorms for Adelaide mostly this morning today.
> 
> I can see nice LFTX forecast on AVN on 8 Aug at 00Z 9:30am 0 to -3 and
03Z
> 12:30pm -2 to -4 and 06Z 3:30pm 0 to -2.
> 
> FORECAST FOR THE ADELAIDE METROPOLITAN AREA
> Issued at 5:30 am on Tuesday, 8 August 2000
> For Tuesday.
> 
> Please do not use this forecast after midday Tuesday.
> 
> ADELAIDE WARNINGS
> Nil.
> 
> IDS1003401
> ADELAIDE METROPOLITAN AREA
> Tuesday    :   Mostly cloudy with a few showers. Freshening north to
> northwest
> winds shifting northwest to west during the morning.
> 
> Adelaide City  Max 16
> 
> Hope to get something. :)
> 
> From Nathan Thompson.
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I just received word of a 
severe storm that has just caused damage to the north-western Victorian town of 
Sunbury. A basketball stadium was destroyed and a number of homes unroofed. 
There is very little information to go by, however, at this stage it appears 
that the phenomenon may fit the category of straight-line winds. </FONT></DIV>
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From: "Dean Sgarbossa" <deansgar at alphalink.com.au>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hello again,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A storm is just passing over 
head as I write this bringing regular C-C lightning and and thunder. Rain is 
just beginning to fall. It is like music to my ears!</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:30:00 +1000
From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Evening all,

BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

Priority
Severe Thunderstorm Warning

for

Issued at 6:04pm on Tuesday the 8th of August 2000

Damage from a Severe Thunderstorm has been reported from Sunbury at
5.40pm today.  At 6pm the storm was near Deer Park moving southeast at
40km/h towards Altona.  People in the western suburbs are warned that
this storm can produce damaging wind, large hail and flash flooding.

This warning will be updated at 8pm.

 [ Radio media to play Severe Weather News Tag Alert 4 here ]

The current thunderstorm warning, issued by the Bureau of Meteorology,
indicates
the strong probability of intense storm activity in this area.

In the interests of community safety the SES suggests some simple
precautions:
- secure any loose objects in the vicinity of your home, then:
- stay indoors if possible
- if you are outdoors, avoid sheltering under trees
- listen to the radio station for the storm updates
- switch off computers and electrical appliances

...................................................

I've just heard thunder for the first time in months.  Chris Daley is
keeping a watch on the storm over the airport which apparently closed it
due to fears of excessive windshear!!!

I'm off up Mt Dandenong with SCD in tow....oooohhhh!!!!  lovely deep
gutteral rumbling to the WNW.

See you at the lookout if you're coming up - this could be a good one!!

Jane
--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

Check out the MSC Cafe at
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ASWA - Victoria
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From: "Dean Sgarbossa" <deansgar at alphalink.com.au>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hey again,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The storm is now directly 
over head producing severe lightning and extremely loud thunder. It is amazing. 
We really are having a great light show at the moment. Lightning approximately 
every one to two seconds. It is very exciting.</FONT></DIV>
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    </B>Dean Sgarbossa &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:deansgar at alphalink.com.au">deansgar at alphalink.com.au</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
    </B>Aussie Wx Mailing List &lt;<A 
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    </B>Tuesday, 8 August 2000 19:08<BR><B>Subject: </B>aus-wx: STORM: Victorian 
    Storms<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hello again,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A storm is just passing 
    over head as I write this bringing regular C-C lightning and and thunder. 
    Rain is just beginning to fall. It is like music to my ears!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From: "Nick Sykes" <nsykes22 at optushome.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: STORM:Best August Lightning display in Melbourne
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Hey All

Nick from Clayton, in SE Melbourne here. Well Melbourne has just had what I
would described the most lightning active August storm I have ever seen.
There were CG's, double CG's, an anvil crawler and some very loud boom
thunder. Lightning was at a rate of better than 1 per 5 seconds at some
stages. This is very unusual for Melbourne storms at this time of year when
you usually get one bolt and that's it. This wasn't a cold air cell, this
was more a summer type set-up, mild northerly winds and a trough moving in
from the west. Some of the early development today made me think it was
summer.

A severe thunderstorm warning is still current for Melbourne as this cells
moves through. There have been reports of damage, just caught the end of a
story on the news, will give more info as it comes to hand.

BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

Priority
Severe Thunderstorm Warning

for Melbourne Metropolitan Area

Issued at 6:41pm on Tuesday the 8th of August 2000

Damage from a Severe Thunderstorm has been reported from Sunbury at 5.40pm
today.  At 6.30pm the storm was near Albert Park moving southeast at 40km/h
towards Dandenong.  People in the south eastern suburbs are warned that this
storm can produce damaging wind, large hail and flash flooding.

This warning will be updated at 7.30pm.

 [ Radio media to play Severe Weather News Tag Alert 4 here ]

The current thunderstorm warning, issued by the Bureau of Meteorology,
indicates
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In the interests of community safety the SES suggests some simple
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- secure any loose objects in the vicinity of your home, then:
- stay indoors if possible
- if you are outdoors, avoid sheltering under trees
- listen to the radio station for the storm updates
- switch off computers and electrical appliances

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<DIV>Here we go again........the ABC Melbourne have just mentioned the 'm' word 
- they said there had been a mini tornado in Sunbury that had torn the roof off 
the basketball stadium.</DIV>
<DIV>I just had a great hail shower go through at Boronia - 9 -10mm hail 
stones.</DIV>
<DIV>Lots of lightning &amp; thunder - fantastic!</DIV>
<DIV>While trying to get some lightning pics the hail started &amp; now I'm 
trying to clean up the dampness as I had the sliding door open at the time for 
the photos! :-)) Still stepping on hailstones!</DIV>
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Subject: aus-wx: STORMS: Vic storms satpics!
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hey everyone,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good to see the vics gettting some action. Just 
spoken to Jane and she is with some others atop of Mt Dandenong spying on the 
rear of the passing storms (including an inpressive anvil). </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway make sure you check out an extemely 
impressive satpic of this event.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>or if it has changed before you get 
this</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Enjoy!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>dann</FONT></DIV>
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From: "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Had to reply to this. Off topic I know but I just loved that last comment.

----- Original Message -----
From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: End of Year Chase 2000


> Hi guys,
>
> I think that working around a time frame such as Jimmy mentioned is not a
> bad idea regardless of how we organise the individual groups. Having dates
> at least allows us to find out who's going to be where and when, so that
if
> we'd like to co-ordinate things we have a bit more knowledge to help us
plan
> with.......
>
> Just my 2c (rounded up to 5c including GST)
>
> Jane
> ---------------------------------------
> Jane ONeill
> cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
> Melbourne Storm Chasers
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com
>
> ASWA - Victoria
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> ---------------------------------------
>
> Anthony wrote:
> Everyone is organising their own thing this year in their own groups,
> there's no such date at which people can go...it's up to the individuals
> themselves to become actively involved and make up their own groups.
>
> Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > When have we decided this to happen. I am inclined to make it the two
> weeks
> > or so last week November and first week December. People must know when
> > they can take time off and plan..
>
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From Clayton (~20km SE of Melbourne CBD)

Well what can I say that hasn't already been said. A fantastic lightning
show which, for me, began around 6pm when I woke from my nap. From my 11th
storey, westward facing room I had a good show of the storm coming from
the northwest, and was abled to shoot a couple rolls, with 2 shots in
particular that should turn out to be pretty good, even if I do say so
myself. At its best around 6:30pm, the storm produced lightning every few
seconds.

Here is an IR loop which shows this storm developing:

http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2000_08_08/IDO50V07.gif

And what's more, the Bureau's lightning detector is still down as it did
not register a hoot.


Cheers

--

Robert A. Goler        

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Monash University
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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 03:45:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Frank Burns <frank_burns25 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: STORMS: Vic storms satpics!
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Isn't it fun watching it come through.

You can watch it on the Bureau radar as well.
id; student  and password; p32remud
 
Frank




--- dann weatherhead <weatherhead at ozemail.com.au>
wrote:
> Hey everyone,
> 
> Good to see the vics gettting some action. Just
> spoken to Jane and she is with some others atop of
> Mt Dandenong spying on the rear of the passing
> storms (including an inpressive anvil). 
> 
> Anyway make sure you check out an extemely
> impressive satpic of this event.
> 
>
http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SE28380.gif
> 
> or if it has changed before you get this
> 
>
http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/Members/Daniel/SE28380.gif
> 
> Enjoy!!
> 
> dann
> __________________________
> Daniel Weatherhead 
> Blaxland, NSW
> weatherhead at ozemail.com.au
> SYDNEY STORM CHASERS
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> 
> 


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Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 21:40:10 +1000
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9.36pm 08/08

Just received SMS from friend in Albury/Wodonga, thunder/lightning, also
heavy rain. By the looks of Wagga Radar I would believe it. 

Light rain in Bathurst as well. 

Dave
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Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 21:48:12 +1000
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hey all,
got a pack of photos back today. this is the first time i've used this old
pentax. not a bad lot considering the size of the mould that was growing in
the lenses. i dismantled them and gave them a good clean.
just thought i'd share a few with yas

http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/photo1.jpg congestus last week
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/photo2.jpg 
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/photo3.jpg long star trail
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/photo4.jpg reeally long star trail
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/photo5.jpg looking through telescope
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/photo6.jpg the two pointers, hand
tracked
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/photo7.jpg small startrail

cyas
steve gold coast
Steve Baynham
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Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 22:15:42 +1000
From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Evening all,

Spent some time up on top of Mt Dandenong this evening with Chris Daley &
Tiffany.  We drove up during a great light show to the east, north & northwest
& wonderful rolling thunder.  Sat through the first storm with about 30 other
cars (see it's not just us!!).  No hail, but we watched the cloud twist & turn
as it came up the side of the hill.  Some of the showers over Melbourne at
that time were so heavy that they totally blotted the lights out for short
periods.

We went down to the lookout of the eastern side, then to Montrose for pizza &
back up the hill - listening to the aviation forecast on the phone, I was
plotting the expected location of the front at 9pm (Hay to Fliki) when we had
an enormous flash of lightning right overhead & a crash of thunder & then very
heavy rain for 10 minutes or so....then nothing.....

Down the hill and home to find that I'd had 7mm rain in the 2.5 hours I'd been
gone & have subsequently had another 3.9mm in 30 minutes (see, cleaning your
gutters does work!!!) when a 100+ went across.

Thanks to Bussie, Macca, Daniel Weatherhead & (Matt Smith this afternoon) for
the updates & radar & news reports - and it was great to meet Tiffany & Chris
up there....oh, and Cadence enjoyed the show too!

Roll on spring!

Jane
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Jane ONeill - Melbourne
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Melbourne Storm Chasers
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Check out the MSC Cafe at
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ASWA - Victoria
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Hey steve,

Excellent pics, love trails in any shape,form or time exposure :)
by the way what equipment you got?? I can't remember if you told me.

I use a 4.5" reflector on a german equatorial mount, with 1-1/4" eyepiece, 
it's not bad, but I really need to get a Camera adapter for it.

Andrew


At 09:48 PM 8/8/00 +1000, you wrote:
>hey all,
>got a pack of photos back today. this is the first time i've used this old
>pentax. not a bad lot considering the size of the mould that was growing in
>the lenses. i dismantled them and gave them a good clean.
>just thought i'd share a few with yas
>
>http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/photo1.jpg congestus last week
>http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/photo2.jpg
>http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/photo3.jpg long star trail
>http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/photo4.jpg reeally long star trail
>http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/photo5.jpg looking through telescope
>http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/photo6.jpg the two pointers, hand
>tracked
>http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/photo7.jpg small startrail
>
>cyas
>steve gold coast
>Steve Baynham
>http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany
>
>Australian Severe Weather Association
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
>Brisbane Storm Chasers
>http://www.bsch.simplenet.com.au
>
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BLOODY HELL!!

Just saw sensational footage of a tornado in Melb. on Nightline. What's
happening down there and who chased it???

Talk to me!!

Andrew. 

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on 8/8/00 6:29 PM, Dean Sgarbossa at deansgar at alphalink.com.au wrote:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE="2">Hello all,<BR>
 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I just received word of a severe storm that has just caused damage to the north-western Victorian town of Sunbury. A basketball stadium was destroyed and a number of homes unroofed. There is very little information to go by, however, at this stage it appears that the phenomenon may fit the category of straight-line winds. <BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2">Dean AL Sgarbossa<BR>
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Nice to hear....but if Sunbury is north west west Vic then where am I??????? &nbsp;&nbsp;:)<BR>
Greg Stewart<BR>
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P.S. some great storms on the radar between here and Pooncarie (about 120 km north of here)
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Did they show the amazing waterspouts in Tokyo harbour on Tv over there in
your country?
Amazing. Looked like a huge elephant's trunk. Best footage, sorry, I mean
trunkage I've seen of waterspouts. The news reporter said that they are
very rare in Japan.
Good on yer Adelaide area and Victoria for the latest storms. Send 'em over
here (not Auckland) after you have finished with them.

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At 10.50pm the Wagga radar is back on line.Shows a pretty solid area of
storms arriving in the Wagga area (storms confirmed by the METAR).

Should arrive in Canberra about 1.00am...??

Looking forward to the show..and who knows they may even get across the
Tasman to the Sth Island for the truly storm deprived??

Patrick

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Where's mine??

Incredible tornado footage in the suburbs of Melbourne, footage of the
waterspout in Japan and footage of fire-devils in the states!!! All in
the one bulletin of Nightline!

The world's going 'nader-crazy!

Andrew.

Andrew Miskelly wrote:
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> BLOODY HELL!!
> 
> Just saw sensational footage of a tornado in Melb. on Nightline. What's
> happening down there and who chased it???
> 
> Talk to me!!
> 
> Andrew.
> 
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Hi all,

I have just updated quite a few things on the site if people are interested 
or have the time..

http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/index.html  latest 
photos updated.

This includes the last snow chase mainly from Cherry Tree Hill, then a snow 
line photo, also the Wollongong (possible) supercell. I wonder if there 
were more reports from this event as people heard of media reports of 
tennis ball sized hail.... I wish someone could confirm or disprove it..

Also the latest storm news reports are on site one from the winter storm 
outbreak - boy I have been lazy  plus two report from Andrew Godsman

http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/index.html  top three reports


http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/index11.html 
this most of you have seen but for those who haven't seen frost, there are 
a few of the frost we got with a temp of -4C or thereabouts

Enjoy if you may

Jimmy Deguara



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Jimmy Deguara
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NSW Australia

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