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From: Robert Goler <robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au>
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Hey, thanks Clyve, Jane and Rod

I wasn't sure about katabatic effects due to my limited knowledge of the
geography here (I'll have to look where the Latrobe and Yarra valleys are
:-P). I thought it could have been drainage from the Dandenong ranges, but
just looking at a Melways street directory shows that they're basically to
the east. Thus I thought any drainage flow would head westward.

If time permits, I'll go shopping for a height contour map of Melbourne
tomorrow.


Cheers

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:23:54 +0800
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Hi all on the list i know this is of subject but we need to save Napster
for all ppl that like MP3 Music Long Live Napster Long live Napster RIP
RIAA....

http://www.petitiononline.com/Napster/petition.html

A Ticked OFF  MP3 Listener.

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:44:17 -0700
From: Lindsay <writer at lisp.com.au>
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Blackheath: Friday 7:45am EST


Wind calm/light

Temp -1.5

Clear skies.


Awoke to a beautiful snow scene this morning. Cover peaked at around 2
to 4cm, I'd say. Temp got to -2.5 at my place this morning. There's a
nice crusty freeze over the dry snow. Indeed, the snow is so dry! At no
time during the fall last night (I observed it fall from 7:30pm to 10pm)
did I see flakes larger than pea size (5mm) and my obs were backlit by a
strong outdoor light. Actually, later on there were a few isolated
larger flakes but very few.

Lindsay Pearce

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From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at rubix.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Happy Brisbanite in the snow
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:58:25 +1000
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Anthony Cornelius was last heard from while running around in the !!snow!!
between Tenterfield & Glen Innes on the NSW Northern Tablelands *very* early
this morning.  If you'd like to talk to one very happy but cold Queenslander
(he reported -5.3C at 4.37am) , I'm sure he'd appreciate updates on 0417 759
304.

Jane
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From: Harald Richter <hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov>
Subject: aus-wx: strongest US tornado in 2000
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Good morning everyone,

The US had to wait until 25 July 2000 to clock its 
first F4-rated tornado in Granite Falls, Minnessota.
This rating makes the Granite Falls tornado the strongest
US tornado of the year 2000 (so far)!  That also says something 
about the year thus far ... but don't get me going on that. 

Also, take a look on satellite what the cold air push 
has done over the Coral Sea.

Harald

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From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Hi David,

Indeed.  If the timing of the rain band had been about 3 hours earlier 
the records would have been easily smashed, as the max's were all quite 
early in the morning, most of the day was well into single figures.

Coldest night so far this winter at Mt. Crosby.  Min 1.5C at bottom of
drive with frost patches in shaded areas further down the road still 
evident at 8:00am.  Min reading at house on the ridge 5.0C, and at 8:00am 
both thermometers were reading 6.0C.

Must say I was surprised at the BoM's forecast Min of +2C for Ipswich, as
reported on all late news.  I would have punted for around -3C.  I havn't
checked the AWS but based on our Min it must have been around this mark.

John.
>snip
...
Brisbane regional site has had a 10.6 and the Ap a 11.9 in July before.
Also scanning these sites, I see they have respectively recorded 10.2 and
10.6 in August 1954. Suggests that with a long enough record (without
climate change -local/or global), and sub 10C max is only a matter of time
...
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From: David Jones <D.Jones at bom.gov.au>
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>I've had a max of 11.7C today...been hovering around 10C most of the
>day, clearing edge of this cloud band seems to be coming through soon,
>so maybe we'll get higher temps then...still iffy!  What's the lowest
>recorded max in Brisbane?  I was under the impression it was about
>13.4C...but can't remember!

Anthony,

According to Blair's trusty site 
http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~blair//extremes/statlist.html
the Brisbane regional site has had a 10.6 and the Ap a 11.9 in July before.
Also scanning these sites, I see they have respectively recorded 10.2 and
10.6 in August 1954. Suggests that with a long enough record (without
climate change -local/or global), and sub 10C max is only a matter of time
at both.

BTW talking to my friend from Mt Dandenong, it snowed on and off for much of
Wednesday pm (at 500m), with some accumulation which didn't last between
showers.

Cheers,

David.                                              


             
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:50:25 +0800
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hi all a quick email to the list as i am of out chasing any updates
appreciated on my mobile 0407991213,
Ta MJ.

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Hi All.

I've been having trouble getting through to my brother Phil's website in
Hong Kong at: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm which has been
inaccessable to me all week.

Just wondering if this is local as in my ISP or if this is a more
widespread problem as in Aust wide, as Phil assures me that after servers
were replaced and software updated last weekend, people in Hong Kong, the
US, and Canada are having no problem getting in.

Regards,
Carl.

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Carl Smith.
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia.
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Tropical Cyclone Archives: http://cyclones.50megs.com/

Please note the new location of all archive type material and update your
bookmarks and website links.
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From: agam at mail.smartchat.net.au
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:49:36 +1000
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What a wonderful afternoon it has been,

The chase began this afternoon around 2:00pm, after a quick check of the
radar, noticing the band of showers making its way due north up the
coast around Batemans Bay, and remembering the past emails about the
coldest pool of air being due today, I was off.

Firstly it was down to Saddleback Mt, just south of Kiama in the
Illawarra, and it was obvious that the change was on the way up the
coast. After I got to the lookout at around 2:40pm, the view south was
okay, plenty of cu, but the more promising site was of the bank of
anvils a little further behind the lower cloud. Interestingly, there
seemed to be some snowy/showery looking clouds travelling over the
escarpment west of Nowra, from a SSE'ly direction. I decided that there
might be a chance of snow afterall so headed down through Jamberoo, up
Jamberoo pass and on to Robertson.

Arriving at Robertson, and taking a couple of snaps along the way,
things were looking decidedly better to my south. Stopped to grab a pie
from the Robo pie shop and drove to the highest point around, just west
of Robo and sat back to wait for the front. I called Jimmy also to see
what was happening and to report some nice frontal features with the
hint of snow on the way. After a short while the guster took shape with
the steep valleys south contributing plenty of scud to make it look
great, but it seemed to be slipping SE, so I drove back to a point east
of Robo and sat back.

It didn't take long, around 3:55 the front passed over and as I stood
outside the first shower of around 2-3mm hail fell. The temperature
dropped to what felt like freezing instantly, and the next shower
started as mushy rain, then large snow flakes fell, mixed with periods
of light slush. About this point things start to get hazy as the full
grip of chase fever took over. After a short while it seemed to be
settling back to mostly rain so I decided to head for the higher ground
again.

When I arrived, there appeared to be snow on the ground, but instead it
was drifts of hail, mostly 2-3mm, but a few getting up to 5-7mm. As I
waited the first heavy snow shower moved in. The next twenty minutes up
to 4:45 saw snow mixed with light showers, which I again reported to
Jimmy, before the gods answered my calls and suddenly everything went
white. Within twenty minutes the ground was white, my car (very dark
grey) was white, and the flakes were getting bigger and bigger. Also, my
film was getting lower and lower as I hooted and hollered as things went
progressively whiter and whiter.

Around 5:10 I drove back to Robertson and picked up more film, then
headed back to the same spot. Snow was falling heavily in the township
which is around 500m asl. Extremely heavy snow then continued to fall
until about 5:40 by which time a good 3-4cm had settled on the ground.
The snow was completely dry, large flakes, which compacted greatly when
I made a snow man on the back of my now white car. The road was also
covered in about 3-4cm, even where traffic was going over. So with it
easing up to light snow, getting dark and me getting worried about being
able to get out if the roads got much worse I headed back down Macquarie
Pass to Wollongong. Snow had settled all the way to the top of the pass,
which probably has an elevation of a little less than 500m, (correct me
if wrong, Michael T). Then arrived home at 6:30, dry warm and with a
buzz that I'll carry with me all night tonight at the nightclub. What a
day.

This whole vent seems very similar to the snow falls of late July/early
August 1986 as was discussed on this list at the end of May. I can't
believe my luck of being able to be there. The first roll will be
developed tomorrow and I'll email pictures to Jimmy who might be able to
put them on his sight for me.

I'll stop shaking with excitment later, I'm sure.
Andrew Godsman


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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:48:52 -0500
From: Sam Barricklow <k5kj at pulse.net>
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I added links to pages with reports and images on several recent events.

See:  http://www.k5kj.net/news.htm

Sam Barricklow

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From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:09:54 +0930
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Reading all these great emails reminds me why I moved - it is 
fabulous here today with 30c and deep blue skies (just to rub it in 
for all of you............)

Howevere we do have 100 supersonic jets (like F18's, F100's, 
Harriers, etc) screaming around as part of operation pitch black - a 
joint airforce exercise. Bloody noisy let me tell you - when the 
windows wobble you know they are close!

Looking forward to build up commencing in approx 4 - 6 weeks - 
and the accompanying storms! 

Paul in darwin
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:16:43 +1000
From: Matthew Smith <tornado at bigpond.net.au>
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rubbing it in ?
I saw 2 CG's yesterday, and heard thunder, saw a guster (too dark to
photograph) with the change coming up along the coast, saw lightning about 2
weeks ago or so with storms,  seen lots of CB's the last few weeks and saw
powder snow in the blue mountains on a snow chase !
I'm sure everyone else has had more interesting weather than Darwin for the
last 3-4 months :)

Just rubbing it back your way Paul  :)  (that doesnt sound too good.. hmm)

Matt Smith


paulmoss at tpgi.com.au wrote:

> Reading all these great emails reminds me why I moved - it is
> fabulous here today with 30c and deep blue skies (just to rub it in
> for all of you............)
>
> Howevere we do have 100 supersonic jets (like F18's, F100's,
> Harriers, etc) screaming around as part of operation pitch black - a
> joint airforce exercise. Bloody noisy let me tell you - when the
> windows wobble you know they are close!
>
> Looking forward to build up commencing in approx 4 - 6 weeks -
> and the accompanying storms!
>
> Paul in darwin
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From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au
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hmm true..........

but then again I will see most of what you have seen (except the 
snow thank god) in the 1st 2 weeks of the build up........ while you 
are sitting around waiting for it - and caught in traffic jams cause of 
the Olympics!

4 months aint too long to wait............

Paul.
> rubbing it in ?
> I saw 2 CG's yesterday, and heard thunder, saw a guster (too dark to
> photograph) with the change coming up along the coast, saw lightning
> about 2 weeks ago or so with storms,  seen lots of CB's the last few
> weeks and saw powder snow in the blue mountains on a snow chase ! I'm
> sure everyone else has had more interesting weather than Darwin for
> the last 3-4 months :)
> 
> Just rubbing it back your way Paul  :)  (that doesnt sound too good..
> hmm)

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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: aus-wx: Archive request -- satpix
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:34:53 GMT
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Does anyone archive the hourly Yokohama NPMOC satpix from
http://www.yoko.npmoc.navy.mil/nsds-e20shots/austir/ and similar urls
for wv and vis?

If so, I am trying to fill the following gaps and would really
appreciate any help -- email me direct please.

Vis: 
0200z and 0500z on 20/07/00
2200, 0000, 0200, 0500 on 21/07/00

WV:
1500, 1800, 2100 on 25/07/00
0000, 0300, 0600 on 26/07/00 

IR:
Hourly 1600 on 25/07/00 to 
0800 on 26/07/00

Laurier

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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Cold pool interaction over south coral sea
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:39:55 +1000
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 Hi all.
           A large area of cold air over the south Coral sea  looks
interesting showing some early sighns of vorticity. In this position and on
the south west side of the jet and strong moisture inflow above 500hpa worth
keeping an eye on it for possible intensification.

                                                  regards Clyve H.




> Also, take a look on satellite what the cold air push
> has done over the Coral Sea.
>
> Harald
>
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From: "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:48:45 +1000
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I tried. No good.

Bussy

----- Original Message -----
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> Hi All.
>
> I've been having trouble getting through to my brother Phil's website in
> Hong Kong at: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm which has been
> inaccessable to me all week.
>
> Just wondering if this is local as in my ISP or if this is a more
> widespread problem as in Aust wide, as Phil assures me that after servers
> were replaced and software updated last weekend, people in Hong Kong, the
> US, and Canada are having no problem getting in.
>
> Regards,
> Carl.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Carl Smith.
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Spillane eddy over Melbourne this morning??????
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:50:09 +1000
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Hi Rod.
I have noticed this effect in your area on several occasions some years back
when my job took me into the Bendigo region another possibility is the
arrival of the sea breeze which often pushes to the southern slopes of the
divide around mt Macidon during the afternoon and then spills over the crest
and flows down the north slope i have also noticed this effect in Canberra
when the easterly sea breeze arrives as a gusty and sometimes dusty squall
between 1800 and 2200hrs  especially in the months of Jan and Feb, sometimes
accompanied by a band of congesting cumulus.
                                              regards Clyve H
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod Aikman <raikman at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Spillane eddy over Melbourne this morning??????


> Hi everyone,
>             Speaking of local geographical effects on wind patterns under
> certain weather conditions inspires me to mention a particular wind effect
> that is often experienced here (Bendigo).
>     During summer, under clear anticyclonic light southerly to
> south-easterly surface wind flows, the maximum temperature will reach the
> high twenties to thirty degree range. A short while after sunset, or a
> little after 9.00pm in January, the very light southerly to south-easterly
> wind will freshen right up to around 20-25 km/h, and remain at this force
> for a couple of hours, before moderating back to virtually calm conditions
> around midnight.
>     Just after sunset, the most rapid cooling takes place under dry air,
> light wind, clear sky conditions, and it is this rapid cooling that I
think
> sets up a katabatic effect, in that the cooler air near the surface slides
> down the northern slopes of the dividing range and re-inforces the slight
> south to south-east surface flow.
>
> Rod Aikman
> Golden Square,
> Bendigo, Vic.
>
>
> Hi Robert
> From my limited study of this phenomenon the Spillane eddy requires the
> positioning of an anticyclone towards the south of Victoria and a low
level
> east flow pattern the development though appears rather complex and may be
> associated with complicated katabatic effects across the Port Phillip bay
> area ie the mean katabatic flow over northern parts of the bay is usually
> from a north direction but on the west side of the bay mostly from  a west
> or north west angle the easterly flow may also be enhanced by channelling
> through the Latrobe valley area , what you saw may have been a local
> katabatic effect with the distant stacks just above the low level cold
> outflow boundary layer i have seen this effect at the shell refinery corio
> where the highest stack moves from an east direction and lower stacks from
a
> west direction in early morning situations its all interesting stuff
>                                                    regards Clyve H
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Goler <robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 2:48 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Spillane eddy over Melbourne this morning??????
>
>
>  >
>  > Hi all
>  >
>  > Can anyone shed some light on this one?
>  >
>  > I live one floor from the top of a 12 storey building in Clayton (about
>  > 20km SE of Melbourne CBD) and my view is to the west. This morning was
> the
>  > second morning where I noticed the smoke from neighbouring smoke stacks
>  > blowing southward, while on the west side of the bay, the smoke from
>  > those smoke stacks was blowing to the north. Looking at the MSL
analysis
>  > and the cumulus cloud motions showed a southerly flow present, although
>  > this was barely noticeable at ground level as I walked to uni.
>  >
>  > Q. I was wondering if this caused by the effects of the Spillane eddy?
>  > (Er, this is a cyclonic circulation centered on Melbourne bound by the
>  > ranges to the north and east and west, and forms under stable
conditions.
>  > Bob Crowder's book shows a satellite image of this and mentions it
> briefly
>  > in the section on air pollution.)
>  >
>  > Or is it simply caused by the geography of my area? At the moment, I'm
>  > trying to get a hold of an elevation map of the region here, as I'm not
>  > quite sure where everything is. Incidently, this cannot be explained by
>  > wind shear in the vertical as the sounding doesn't show this dramatic
180
>  > degree turn.
>  >
>  > I should point out that smoke stacks to the south showed no east-west
>  > deviation, and seemed to be blowing away, while those to the
>  > north-northwest also had no east-west deviation, but due to their
>  > distance, I was unable to say for certain that these were blowing
towards
>  > me.
>  >
>  > I indirectly got in touch with the BoM, but they say that the southerly
>  > flow was too fast for the Spillane eddy to form.
>  >
>  > The first time I saw this was on June 27 in the morning, which had a
>  > very similar synoptic situation over Victoria. It was quite noticeable
>  > around 9 through to about 10am, but by 10:30, the smoke stacks on this
>  > side became erratic in nature, and eventually adopted a northward flow,
>  > thus matching the western side and the synoptic pattern. This would be
>  > explained by convective heating breaking this 'eddy'.
>  >
>  > I took photos showing the opposing motions of the smoke stack, but the
>  > lack of contrast made the smoke stack in the distance invisible in the
>  > scan. However, it can be seen well in the prints.
>  >
>  > So, does anyone have an idea?
>  >
>  >
>  > Cheers
>  >
>  > --
>  >
>  > Robert A. Goler
>  >
>  > E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au
>  > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/
>  >
>  > Department of Mathematics and Statistics
>  > Monash University
>  > Clayton, Vic 3800
>  > Australia
>  >
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From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at rubix.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Local effects (was: Spillane eddy over Melbourne this morning??????)
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The arrival of the easterly sea breeze in Canberra during the evening used
to also (quite frequently) push a line of lightning active Cbs up along the
Cullarin Horst to the east of Canberra - and that is where they would stay
for hours without ever seeming to move, but providing us with the most
amazing light show.  We'd all sit out on the front lawns and watch until
early in the morning.  Some years you would get a lot of this - day after
day after day (these seemed to be the years where the temperature spent a
bit of time over 33C) , other years - nothing at all (these being the years
that the temperature didn't reach 30C at all).

The best year I remember was Xmas 1990 - 91 (I think).  Patrick, has the
display been as good in the last few years?? and does the pattern still fit
with the temperature observations above?

Jane
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http://www.severeweather.asn.au

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
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Hi Rod.
I have noticed this effect in your area on several occasions some years back
when my job took me into the Bendigo region another possibility is the
arrival of the sea breeze which often pushes to the southern slopes of the
divide around mt Macidon during the afternoon and then spills over the crest
and flows down the north slope i have also noticed this effect in Canberra
when the easterly sea breeze arrives as a gusty and sometimes dusty squall
between 1800 and 2200hrs  especially in the months of Jan and Feb, sometimes
accompanied by a band of congesting cumulus.
                                              regards Clyve H

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>From aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Fri Jul 28 21:32:07 2000
From: "Adam Mayo" <oyam at bigpond.com>
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Subject: aus-wx:  DrDisk inaccessible
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We tried too, with no luck through Bigpond.

Judy Mayo

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>From aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Fri Jul 28 22:08:05 2000
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:59:01 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
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Hi all,

I was hoping to get a report up on this by tonight, but I don't think
I've got enough energy in me to do it!  Very quick run down:

Had 3hrs sleep, woke up at 2am, left at 2:30, destination - Stanthorpe. 
Stanthorpe had Cu and CJ's nearby - went further Sth to Tenterfield
where snow had been reported in the last 30mins, but none was there when
I went down.  I went down further towards Glenn Innes - heavy frost and
light snow on ground 50km north of Glenn Innes, started snowing 30-40km
north of Glenn Innes (very fine flakes, melted as they touched
something).  Got to Glenn Innes - what a shock!  Snow everywhere!!! 
Good one to two inch covering of snow all over the place, roads were all
iced up and had snow on them - very slippery!  Enough snow for
snowballs, but not enough for Snow-Jimmy's :-(

Lots of fun and a great novelty!  All up, it was about 10hrs (left at
2:30am, got back at 12:45pm), and travelled 780km.

I'm off to bed now to catch up on some sleep :)

"Happy Brisbanite in the Snow,"
Anthony Cornelius

MSC - Jane ONeill wrote:
> 
> Anthony Cornelius was last heard from while running around in the !!snow!!
> between Tenterfield & Glen Innes on the NSW Northern Tablelands *very* early
> this morning.  If you'd like to talk to one very happy but cold Queenslander
> (he reported -5.3C at 4.37am) , I'm sure he'd appreciate updates on 0417 759
> 304.
> 
> Jane
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From: "Rod Aikman" <raikman at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Local effects (was: Spillane eddy over Melbourne this morning??????)
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Clive, Jane, and others,

The thought of this phenomenon being a sea breeze is one that has also 
crossed my mind in the past. It may be beneficial for someone like my self 
to study and investigate this further, for as far as I know little study has 
been undertaken, in this part of the world at least, on how far sea breezes 
actually penetrate inland. (Perhaps because most of the country's population 
lives on or near the coast??) The closest point of the sea, which is Port 
Phillip Bay, is approximately 160 kilometres, which is a fair distance 
inland for a sea breeze front to travel.

regards,
Rod Aikman



The arrival of the easterly sea breeze in Canberra during the evening used
to also (quite frequently) push a line of lightning active Cbs up along the
Cullarin Horst to the east of Canberra - and that is where they would stay
for hours without ever seeming to move, but providing us with the most
amazing light show.  We'd all sit out on the front lawns and watch until
early in the morning.  Some years you would get a lot of this - day after
day after day (these seemed to be the years where the temperature spent a
bit of time over 33C) , other years - nothing at all (these being the years
that the temperature didn't reach 30C at all).

The best year I remember was Xmas 1990 - 91 (I think).  Patrick, has the
display been as good in the last few years?? and does the pattern still fit
with the temperature observations above?

Jane
---------------------------------------
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ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
---------------------------------------




Hi Rod.
I have noticed this effect in your area on several occasions some years back
when my job took me into the Bendigo region another possibility is the
arrival of the sea breeze which often pushes to the southern slopes of the
divide around mt Macidon during the afternoon and then spills over the crest
and flows down the north slope i have also noticed this effect in Canberra
when the easterly sea breeze arrives as a gusty and sometimes dusty squall
between 1800 and 2200hrs  especially in the months of Jan and Feb, sometimes
accompanied by a band of congesting cumulus.
                                               regards Clyve H

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From: "Michael Thompson" <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
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I think the pass top is a little more over 500m, and Robertson itself is
close to 700m. Thanks for the message on the answering machine. I chased
about 7pm and probably was lucky enough to get the last of the snow. It did
not start to snow until the top of the pass, even the transition from sleet
to snow occurred in the last two hairpin bends.

Michael



> Pass to Wollongong. Snow had settled all the way to the top of the pass,
> which probably has an elevation of a little less than 500m, (correct me
> if wrong, Michael T). Then arrived home at 6:30, dry warm and with a
> buzz that I'll carry with me all night tonight at the nightclub. What a
> day.
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