From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Off Topic: Gallah's
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 01:04:43 +1000
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Hi Les,

Pink & Grey Galah, Cacatua roseicapilla, also known as the Roseate Cockatoo.
Occurs throughout most of mainland Australia and locally common, tends to
congregate in flocks particularly in agricultural areas - the bane of many a
grain farmer!  Like all Australian parrots they are totally protected and
export is illegal.  Thus they are highly prized overseas, a breeding pair
can fetch $US40,000.

Galah's are popular caged birds in Australia.  They can be easily taught to
imitate sounds and the human voice.  Behaviour is comical on the perch and
flight sometimes erratic - hence popular slang for someone behaving
stupidly.  As in... "Mate, you look a right galah with that ASWA teeshirt on
backwards"

Photo temporarily at:
http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/galah.jpg
Photo credit is to the National Photographic Index of Australian Wildlife at
the Australian Museum.

John.






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>
> Dear Les
> A Galah is a pinkish intelligent parrot often found in large social groups
and frequently performing  odd and funny behavioural habits. Also
> certain humans with similar wierd habits can be referred to as galahs, or
you may hear someone refer to someone else as that blokes a bit
> of a galah! which means that bloke as in English terms is a bit of a twit!
>                                      regards Clyve Herbert

Clyve - did you hit one of these on TDU99, or was this one of the fauna
that you actually didn't hit???  <GGG>  The stubborn outback wildlife
aren't used to silver bullets I think!  Only 4WD's!

--
Anthony Cornelius
Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
(ASWA)
(07) 3390 4812
14 Kinsella St
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QLD, 4153
Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
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From: "Les Crossan" <les.crossan at virgin.net>
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> Re: Galahs

Brilliant!!

Les

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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: aus-wx: Don't forget the WAFS "snow model" during the cold snap!
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In case you don't know about it, the WAFS model created by Rob Davies
will be interesting to watch over the next couple of days. Go to
http://www.snow-forecast.com/aus.html for 6-hourly high-scale
precip/snow, temperature and freezing level output for SE Australia,
NSW, Vic or Tas. It's already looking very interesting in the 48 to
72hr period.

Laurier

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From: "McDonald" <mcdonald at one.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: TDU99 & thoughts.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hey everyone,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've just been doing some thinking and reminiscing 
of the beginning of Thunder Down Under 1999.&nbsp; For those who are new to the 
list or don't know about it, it was a two week long storm chase covering 
wherever the storms took us in the eastern half of Australia.&nbsp; There were 6 
Victorians, 5 NSW'ians and 3 Queenslanders in 7 cars racing around the 
countryside chasing storms.&nbsp; The chase started in Victoria.&nbsp; 4 of us 
in two separate cars left on a Friday morning not knowing quite what to 
expect.We were fairly well equipped with a hand-held weather station and CB 
radios in both cars.&nbsp; We were 4 relatively inexperienced chasers from 
Victoria of all places - well known for having a lot less severe storms than NSW 
and QLD.  We were entering a whole new level of chasing by heading N into the 
jaws of CAPE in excess of 1500j/kg and LI's consistently below -4.&nbsp; The 
first day was fairly cloud free although there was a slight chance of a late 
afternoon weak storm in Victoria on the eastern ranges.&nbsp; This wasn't what 
we were chasing for though.&nbsp; We were after the best storms possible in the 
eastern half of Australia and if this meant leaving behind a weak storm and 
having a day of driving to get ourselves in a good position for the next day 
then so be it.&nbsp; We suffered all through the first day with blue sky and 
sub-zero dewpoints at times.&nbsp; By the time we had reached our overnight 
stopping point at Dubbo the dewpoint had climbed to a mammoth 5.5C.&nbsp; The 
next day we really didn't know what to expect.&nbsp; We'd seen charts with CAPE 
up to 1800j/kg and LI's down to -5 about 300km N of Dubbo.&nbsp; This was to be 
our target for the day.&nbsp; After driving through strato cumulus all morning 
we finally broke through into sunshine and what had to be 1000+j/kg CAPE's with 
TCu so rock hard I thought it was heaven.&nbsp; Just before reaching Bourke for 
the first time on this trip a few showers came into view.&nbsp; One straight up 
the road ahead of us and another off to the NW which looked more 
promising.&nbsp; All of a sudden Paul Yole was screaming at me and the driver 
over the CB radio.&nbsp; All we heard was "CG, CG, CG".&nbsp; I felt shivers 
race up and down my spine as our eyes both turned to look at this shower turned 
thunderstorm in front of us.&nbsp; It was far from impressive but we watched as 
it began to regularly produce CG's out of the S and W side of it.&nbsp; This 
one, showery looking storm had just produced more lightning in 15 minutes than I 
had seen in the last 8 months.&nbsp; I began to think....."what can we expect if 
we come across a supercell on this trip....what's it going to be like if this is 
what a thundery shower can do".&nbsp; The feeling was nothing short of awesome 
knowing that this trip was only going to get better and better.&nbsp; For us 
Victorians this was going to be the treat of all treats in terms of storm 
chases.&nbsp; This day yielded flash flooding and severe lightning and this was 
just the second day of a two week long chase.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I guess being from Victoria means that we do not 
get to see this sort of thing on anywhere near as a regular basis as those in 
NSW and QLD and hence the excitement and absolute awe of such mediocre storms 
compared to what can happen out there.&nbsp; I will never forget listening to 
the first rumble of thunder out on the western plains of NSW near Bourke.&nbsp; 
It was the deepest and longest rumble of all time which I first thought must've 
been an earthquake - it was just awesome.&nbsp; I don't know if its the fact 
that the storms are bigger, taller and stronger out there but whatever it was it 
made me feel lucky to be a Victorian.&nbsp; I feel I was able to appreciate the 
storms much more by being deprived of such weather for months and months on end 
and then weeks and weeks on end even in the storm season.&nbsp; I feel that 
Australians in general would also attain this appreciation of the storms in the 
US due to the same reason in that we encounter supercells on a far less regular 
basis than our US counterparts.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As it turns out, 4 Victorians, 2 NSW'ians and 3 
QLD'ers were lucky enough to encounter one of these majestic supercells and 
mother nature shone on us that day and gave us a brief viewing of what we are 
all out there to ultimately see - a tornado!!!&nbsp; We watched the supercell 
approach us from the W with a spectacular gust front and frightening lightning 
which set the power lines humming before each big strike.&nbsp; Then after 
watching this cell for almost an hour, there is was.&nbsp; The short-lived F-0 
tornado.&nbsp; It soon dissipated and before long we were given a hearty 
reminder of the need to be safety conscious as the guster raced towards us at 
close to 100km/h, picking up dust from a recently ploughed field and hurling it 
at us at full pelt.........</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway - enough from me reminiscing and declaring 
how fortunate we all are to live in such a fantastic country in which we can all 
literally chase our dreams of monstrous storms with giant hail and 
tornadoes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To read the rest of the Thunder Down Under Chase 
Report and to see some of the photos check it out here:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
href="http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/tdu991.htm">http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/tdu991.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>While I admit it is only 8 of the 17 days we were 
gone, there were 6 storm days in the first 8 days so its well worth the 
read.&nbsp; I may eventually get around to writing about the other 9 days - 
there will be no problems remembering what happened as it is so deeply etched in 
my memory that I am likely to never forget "The Big Chase".&nbsp; I hope you can 
all enjoy it as much as we did by being on the actual chase.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Enjoy!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Andrew McDonald</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(Macca - MSC)</FONT></DIV>
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From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at rubix.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Stunning SA satpic
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<DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN class=510302022-24072000>Morning 
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<DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN 
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<DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN class=510302022-24072000>if you'd 
like to see a seriously stunning winter satpic from this morning take a look at 
this image courtesy of the CSIRO &amp; Kim Badcock - this is 
unreal!!!!!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN 
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From: "Leslie Baxter" <mrt1000 at hotmail.com>
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Subject: aus-wx: Rain in Ballarat, not Spain is falling on the plain.
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Hi people

Well it's raining! Started off heavy, but it's steady rain now, been raining 
since about 7:30am.
Probable Ns/Cu Hybrid rain clouds.

Hopefully it'll clear, get some sun on it, and some action we should have 
this avo :o)

LEs
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From: David Jones <D.Jones at bom.gov.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Jindabyne..
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:34:56 +1000
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>Hi all,
>
>I made this request at the bottom of an email last week, but, does
>anyone know of a place where observations for Jindabyne, NSW are
>available. It would be a very interesting place to have obs for, being
>in the snowy mountains in NSW, but at an elevation of only 950m.
>
>
>Andrew

Andrew,

the Bureau data archives do not have recent weather/temperature data for
Jindabyne, which is to me a little surprising in that the SMHEA have a
fairly large facility there (or at least they did when I was last there?),
and weather/temperature would seem pretty important for their activities.
There is always the chance that they make recordings, which are not
forwarded to BOM but I could not find mention of these on their site
(http://www.snowyhydro.com.au/).

There is, however, rainfall data taken at Jindabyne (Lynwood, alt. 1030m),
which is avaliable freely on www.bom.gov.au in near real time.

For weather, I would be inclined to use Cooma Ap. which is climatologically
very similar to Jindabyne (alt. 930m), and lies "about" half way between
Jindabyne and Cooma. The Cooma Ap. obs are avaliable in real time
continuous, being an AWS, and are probably more informative and interesting
than Jindabyne observations which would seem to me to be very location
specific, due to the intense local gradients in rainfall/temperature.
Another, interesting site, of course, is Tumbarumba (alt. 645m), on the
western side of the divide, which provides an amazing contrast to Cooma Ap.

Cheers,

David.
                                                              
Dr David Jones                                               
                                                            
Climate Analysis Section                                   
National Climate Centre                                    
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Stop talking shit about birds ok, if you want to talk about birds, you 
should have subscribed to the birds mailing list, weather people weather!!! 
Birds, phucking unbelievable.

Get back on topic would yaz!
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From: "Peter Matters" <pmatters at eck.net.au>
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Jane,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=720084522-24072000>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Just looked at it! Looking good for the next few days. The skew-ts are showing a 
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  ONeill<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 25 July 2000 08:22<BR><B>To:</B> Aussie 
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  <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN class=510302022-24072000>Morning 
  all,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN 
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  <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN class=510302022-24072000>if you'd 
  like to see a seriously stunning winter satpic from this morning take a look 
  at this image courtesy of the CSIRO &amp; Kim Badcock - this is 
  unreal!!!!!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN 
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From: "Kevin Phyland" <kjphyland at hotmail.com>
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Subject: aus-wx: Wycheproof storm!
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:04:34 EST
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Hi every1,

While out photographing some dark lowerings to the west of town I was amazed 
to see some fork lightning in the distance. Unfortunately it was about 5.30 
p.m. last night and light was going fast so photos of the developing cell 
may not be that great but there were anvils to the west and south and a 
short, sharp thunderstorm (lasted about twenty minutes travelling west - 
east) right here in town! 2 mm. with the storm and another 2 mm. this 
morning. Looks very dark to the west again now! Goodbye SDS!!!

Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:48:58 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
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> McDonald wrote:
<snip>

Hi Macca - excellently recounted!

I do know what you mean about appreciating storms more from Victoria
rather then most people from NSW and QLD do.  I used to be very fussy
with my storms, and any weather event - it's wasn't until a combination
of two events (first is our non-existant storm season, and the second
was learning from the Vic's on TDU99 :) that I learnt how lucky I am to
live in SE QLD.  As they say, it's not until you don't have something,
that you realise how much you miss it/how lucky you were in the first
place.

I believe that you can categorise most people into four categories:

Tornado Chasers
Severe Storm Chasers
Storm Chasers
Weather Chasers

All are fairly explanatory, tornado chasers are dissappointed if they
don't get a tornado.  Severe storm chasers consider it a bust unless
their storm is severe or visually spectacular.  Storm chasers are just
happy with any sort of storm.  And weather chasers are just that, they
"chase" anything from sunsets to rainbows, dust devils to tornadoes,
showers to storms, Cu to Cb's.  I've certainly learnt a heck of a lot
more since whenever I have an opportunity to, if there's something
remotely interesting, I'll go out and 'chase' it.  No doubt though,
everyone has their different priorities and that's their choice.

I think the other thing that was great with TDU99 was the friendships
everyone made, and how well everyone got on with each other!

I'm already counting down the days to TD2K...
-- 
Anthony Cornelius
Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
(ASWA)
(07) 3390 4812
14 Kinsella St
Belmont, Brisbane
QLD, 4153
Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
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From: "macdonald" <sclmacdonald at bigpond.com>
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Subject: aus-wx: snow at Guyra
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:57:55 +1000
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<DIV>G'day all</DIV>
<DIV>I've been looking at the MRF models, and other forecast/predictions from 
other people.&nbsp; I would n't be surpised this time that Guyra will have 
better falls of snow.&nbsp; However, back in the May outbreak the New England 
highway was closed between Armidale and Guyra due to ice/snow.&nbsp; My source 
was from the radio station 2AD and the Ampol at Guyra.&nbsp;&nbsp; So the 
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Stunning SA satpic
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>HI EVERYBODY</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Very nice comma shape near south west Vic this 
morning have to agree one of the best cold airmass sat pics for some time . The 
cold air field looks to be heading inland across SA towards NSW . We may see the 
coldest air spiral around the developing low just south of Vic this morning. 
Should still see some good cold cbs and plenty of highland snow over south east 
AUS with some of the white stuff getting down to 300 to 500 m over the next 
24hours</FONT></DIV>
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  <A href="mailto:cadence at rubix.net.au" title=cadence at rubix.net.au>MSC - Jane 
  ONeill</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: Stunning SA satpic</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN class=510302022-24072000>Morning 
  all,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN 
  class=510302022-24072000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN class=510302022-24072000>if you'd 
  like to see a seriously stunning winter satpic from this morning take a look 
  at this image courtesy of the CSIRO &amp; Kim Badcock - this is 
  unreal!!!!!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN 
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  <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN class=510302022-24072000><A 
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  <DIV><FONT color=#000080 face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN 
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  class=560243622-06042000>ASWA - Victoria</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:17:01 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
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Hi Leslie,

Here's a hint to avoid those (occassional IMO) emails that are off
topic.  Highlight the email, and press that button that says "delete." 
:-)

Leslie Baxter wrote:
> 
> Stop talking shit about birds ok, if you want to talk about birds, you
> should have subscribed to the birds mailing list, weather people weather!!!
> Birds, phucking unbelievable.
> 
> Get back on topic would yaz!
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:14:39 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
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Hi all,

Well - what horrible smog (smoke and fog) around this morning!  You can
smell it in the air, and visibility is only a few kilometres at best. 
Some pockets were quite thick, much to my disgust as it took me longer
then usual to get to uni this morning in peak hour (wasn't even able to
shoot down the left lane of the expressway onto Margaret St at 80
clicks, while everyone else fought for the other three lanes!)  

I can't see the city from my place at all...it's rare that it's that bad
not to be able to see the city (about ~9km straight line), even when
it's hazy!

Looking forward to these SW'ers so that we can breathe again!

Actually - the traffic and smog isn't as bad as Los Angeles, while in LA
last year we saw the sun on 2 days out of 6, and traffic was ten times
worse!
-- 
Anthony Cornelius
Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
(ASWA)
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:25:02 +1000
From: Andrew Miskelly <amiskelly at ozemail.com.au>
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Hi all,

How do I get on to the Airservices Briefings these days? The site has
changed around since last time I used it (through ASWA members site),
but that was a while ago.

Thanks,

Andrew.

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Andrew,

this gets you the SE NSW obs:

http://www.airservices.gov.au/brief/html.asp?/cgi-bin/avreq?area=21

By changing the number at the end you get the obs for different areas - the 
system vaguely follows post-code numbers (ie 30 is Victoria, 50 is SA etc)

Should be some interesting figures in the next couple of day  :-)

Patrick



>Hi all,
>
>How do I get on to the Airservices Briefings these days? The site has
>changed around since last time I used it (through ASWA members site),
>but that was a while ago.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Andrew.
>
>--
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>Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
>amiskelly at ozemail.com.au
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At 15:44 24/07/00 PDT, you wrote:
>
>Stop talking shit about birds ok, if you want to talk about birds, you 
>should have subscribed to the birds mailing list, weather people weather!!! 
>Birds, phucking unbelievable.
>
>Get back on topic would yaz!
>_

Mind you if the weather is so boring and non-eventful like what it is over
here, you might as well talk about something else !!!!!


John Gaul
NZ Thunderstorm Society

By the way it is nearly a year since I've heard, witnessed and thrilled at
the excitement of a thunderstorm here in ChCh.  Must be a record !!!!
However there was a sferic I heard about a month ago. I got that excited,
grabbed my video camera and rushed over to the radio on anticipation for
another to record. To my disappointment there wasn't another one.

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From: "dann weatherhead" <weatherhead at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Morning thundery for Sydney
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just&nbsp;had a thundery shower sweep thru here  at  
Blaxland. Heard some nice rumbles about 25 minutes ago, and spotted a flanking 
line of sorts to my NW as is passed over. Indeed this is only&nbsp;a shower, but 
it unseasonally warm here. It was 24C here yesterday afternoon and was 21C at 
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Hi weather peeple (not a spelling mistake)

All this fuss about birds as a matter of fact i occasionally use frogs as
well! more of that another time.... As a boy my first encounter with using
birds as a weather tool was on my uncles farm. he used to say if you saw a
crow fly backwards its going to be windy, so after that i thought maybe
using birds as a weather tool might be a possibility.
 The best place  for weather bird analysis is at the beach and seagulls are
tops for weather indications .... example  when seagulls sit on the ground
head down ass up expect a strong wind gust , i noticed that these birds are
also aware of eddy wind vorticity because sometimes you could see them with
head down ass down these birds could anticipate the swirling flow around
them in this position    therefore avoiding cold drafts up their backside
also these birds would rear up head high ass down in this position the birds
were looking around to see how the weather was going indicating they are
weatherwise! but be careful seagulls are  very lazy birds and during a lull
can be seen fluttering several meters above ground with head high and ass
pointed down in this position duck for cover........... peep peep
                                                          regards just for
fun Clyve H
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>
> Stop talking shit about birds ok, if you want to talk about birds, you
> should have subscribed to the birds mailing list, weather people
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> Birds, phucking unbelievable.
>
> Get back on topic would yaz!
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  <A href="mailto:mesof5 at iprimus.com.au" title=mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>clyve 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: aus-wx: Stunning SA 
  satpic</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>HI EVERYBODY</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Very nice comma shape near south west Vic this 
  morning have to agree one of the best cold airmass sat pics for some time . 
  The cold air field looks to be heading inland across SA towards NSW . We may 
  see the coldest air spiral around the developing low just south of Vic this 
  morning. Should still see some good cold cbs and plenty of highland snow over 
  south east AUS with some of the white stuff getting down to 300 to 500 m over 
  the next 24hours</FONT></DIV>
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    <A href="mailto:cadence at rubix.net.au" title=cadence at rubix.net.au>MSC - Jane 
    ONeill</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
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    title=aussie-weather at world.std.com>Aussie Weather</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:22 
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: Stunning SA 
    satpic</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN class=510302022-24072000>Morning 
    all,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN 
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    <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN class=510302022-24072000>if you'd 
    like to see a seriously stunning winter satpic from this morning take a look 
    at this image courtesy of the CSIRO &amp; Kim Badcock - this is 
    unreal!!!!!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN 
    class=510302022-24072000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN class=510302022-24072000><A 
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    <DIV><FONT face="Footlight MT Light"><SPAN 
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    <DIV><FONT color=#000080 face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN 
    class=560243622-06042000>Jane ONeill</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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From: "Leslie Baxter" <mrt1000 at hotmail.com>
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Latest Sat pic, thanks to "the weather Co"

http://www.theweather.com.au/products/images/sat/vic_sat.html

hmmmm squal line on the western border???
line of Cb/Cas, tidy.
C'mon people we need reports.

Les
>From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Stunning SA satpic
>Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:01:22 +1000
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: clyve herbert
>   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>   Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 9:56 PM
>   Subject: Re: aus-wx: Stunning SA satpic
>
>
>   HI EVERYBODY
>   Very nice comma shape near south west Vic this morning have to agree one 
>of the best cold airmass sat pics for some time . The cold air field looks 
>to be heading inland across SA towards NSW . We may see the coldest air 
>spiral around the developing low just south of Vic this morning. Should 
>still see some good cold cbs and plenty of highland snow over south east 
>AUS with some of the white stuff getting down to 300 to 500 m over the next 
>24hours
>                                             regards Clyve H.
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: MSC - Jane ONeill
>     To: Aussie Weather
>     Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:22 AM
>     Subject: aus-wx: Stunning SA satpic
>
>
>     Morning all,
>
>     if you'd like to see a seriously stunning winter satpic from this 
>morning take a look at this image courtesy of the CSIRO & Kim Badcock - 
>this is unreal!!!!!
>
>     http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA13938.gif
>
>     Jane
>     ---------------------------------------
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>     ASWA - Victoria
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From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at rubix.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Weather chasing was: TDU99 & thoughts.
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<snip>
I believe that you can categorise most people into four categories:

Tornado Chasers
Severe Storm Chasers
Storm Chasers
Weather Chasers
<snip>

<begin philosophy>

Thank goodness for other weather chasers!!! - I'm a weather chaser  (as
opposed to the other 3 categories) who has a nasty habit of driving with 1.5
eyes on the sky and .5 of an eye on the traffic.

Like Anthony, I'm happy to get the newspaper, a good cup of coffee, a
chocolate bar & a comfortable chair & spend the next 4 hours sitting in a
paddock just watching - not necessarily doing anything else, but just
watching and learning about the atmospheric processes at work.  I tend to
spend any spare minutes I have during the day on top of the hill 5 minutes
from work just having a look at what's going on - I take the scenic route if
I go to the bank because it gives me a clear view to the S round to the NE.
If there's anything worth getting excited about I can be found on the roof
with the camera and the video. (and I know that Andrew & Claire McDonald
have been getting on their roof for years & scaring the neighbours!!!)

I've been known to take a detour and drive home via Seymour & Yea (that's
only 250kms further than the usual 26kms - but I did it 2 afternoons in a
row in February as Anthony will attest), or via Drouin  if there's anything
remotely interesting to be seen - you may think I'm totally crazy (nothing
new there) - but the amount that I have learnt while doing this sort of
thing is invaluable.....and you train yourself to notice features which to
others may appear totally insignificant, but which may actually be the
precursor to something happening a little later on.

Watch, watch & watch some more...learn the patterns of your local area, then
go and learn the patterns for somewhere else, look upstream, look
downstream, talk to people about the forecasts, theorise, analyse, talk to
people more, discuss, watch, talk, read, think & don't ever stop
learning!!!...and then as Anthony said - be amazed at how many people there
are out there...just like you!!!! and enjoy the friendships that develop as
part of this amazing weather process.

</ end philosophy>

Jane
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New Zealanders, ummm that says a lot, what do you think fellow Aussies?

Awwwwwwww no storms, what a pitty, hey you have Volcanos.

>From: John Gaul <nzts.nz at caverock.net.nz>
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>Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:41:53 +1200
>
>At 15:44 24/07/00 PDT, you wrote:
> >
> >Stop talking shit about birds ok, if you want to talk about birds, you
> >should have subscribed to the birds mailing list, weather people 
>weather!!!
> >Birds, phucking unbelievable.
> >
> >Get back on topic would yaz!
> >_
>
>Mind you if the weather is so boring and non-eventful like what it is over
>here, you might as well talk about something else !!!!!
>
>
>John Gaul
>NZ Thunderstorm Society
>
>By the way it is nearly a year since I've heard, witnessed and thrilled at
>the excitement of a thunderstorm here in ChCh.  Must be a record !!!!
>However there was a sferic I heard about a month ago. I got that excited,
>grabbed my video camera and rushed over to the radio on anticipation for
>another to record. To my disappointment there wasn't another one.
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Subject: aus-wx: taste of spring
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Gday,
   Youre right Dann, it really feels like spring today. Ive been walking 
around campus in shorts and a shirt for the first time in ages, and the 
higher temp (23-24C) is starting to make the blood pump thru the veins a 
little faster :).. not long to go now to the real thing.  There was a little 
acca happening this morning its 1230pm now with increasing cumulus clouds 
drifting in from the west, with a bit of height to them up to the northwest. 
The forecast for syd is a bit worse now but who cares,,just enjoying the 
day. Tstorms still on for hunter and north as well. Enjoying the messages 
sent to the list, especilally 'Macca's' thoughts and a few others, lets 
build the anticipation for the coming season... great stuff:)... I'm off to 
an depressing physics class where ill no doubt just think about whats 
developing outside.... rune..
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From: "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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My old Grandpa used to always say, "Everyday is a school day" (A learning
day)

----- Original Message -----
From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at rubix.net.au>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 12:17 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Weather chasing was: TDU99 & thoughts.


> <snip>
> I believe that you can categorise most people into four categories:
>
> Tornado Chasers
> Severe Storm Chasers
> Storm Chasers
> Weather Chasers
> <snip>
>
> <begin philosophy>
>
> Thank goodness for other weather chasers!!! - I'm a weather chaser  (as
> opposed to the other 3 categories) who has a nasty habit of driving with
1.5
> eyes on the sky and .5 of an eye on the traffic.
>
> Like Anthony, I'm happy to get the newspaper, a good cup of coffee, a
> chocolate bar & a comfortable chair & spend the next 4 hours sitting in a
> paddock just watching - not necessarily doing anything else, but just
> watching and learning about the atmospheric processes at work.  I tend to
> spend any spare minutes I have during the day on top of the hill 5 minutes
> from work just having a look at what's going on - I take the scenic route
if
> I go to the bank because it gives me a clear view to the S round to the
NE.
> If there's anything worth getting excited about I can be found on the roof
> with the camera and the video. (and I know that Andrew & Claire McDonald
> have been getting on their roof for years & scaring the neighbours!!!)
>
> I've been known to take a detour and drive home via Seymour & Yea (that's
> only 250kms further than the usual 26kms - but I did it 2 afternoons in a
> row in February as Anthony will attest), or via Drouin  if there's
anything
> remotely interesting to be seen - you may think I'm totally crazy (nothing
> new there) - but the amount that I have learnt while doing this sort of
> thing is invaluable.....and you train yourself to notice features which to
> others may appear totally insignificant, but which may actually be the
> precursor to something happening a little later on.
>
> Watch, watch & watch some more...learn the patterns of your local area,
then
> go and learn the patterns for somewhere else, look upstream, look
> downstream, talk to people about the forecasts, theorise, analyse, talk to
> people more, discuss, watch, talk, read, think & don't ever stop
> learning!!!...and then as Anthony said - be amazed at how many people
there
> are out there...just like you!!!! and enjoy the friendships that develop
as
> part of this amazing weather process.
>
> </ end philosophy>
>
> Jane
> ---------------------------------------
> Jane ONeill
> ASWA - Victoria
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
> Melbourne Storm Chasers
> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
> ---------------------------------------
>
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Subject: aus-wx: Re: Weather chasing was: TDU99 & thoughts.
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Thanks for that post Andrew; plenty of emotion and insight for those of us 
who couldn't make the chase. It also made me go outside and well.... spring 
is surely on the way. Although there are no guarantees insofar as what sort 
of a chase season it will be, the wait is half the fun.

As far as Anthony's categories go, I am definitely of the storm chaser 
variety; I love thunderstorms severe or not. Nevertheless, anyone who did 
see me out in the field last year (ie 99/00) could be excused for thinking 
otherwise. Notable examples include; 6 complete and utter busts around 
Sydney and the Hunter (and I'll drag Paul Graham down with me here; sorry 
Paul!); a dryline bust on Sydney's southwest outskirts - definitely Jimmy's 
fault ;-) - and a 1 week king-of-busts (4/6/00 - 10-6/00) taking in such US 
states as Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, South Dakota and Iowa.

Still, my two most memorable storms of the 99/00 season were just that and 
didn't even require a chase:-

(i)  the 6:00 pm 22/9/99 Sydney severe storm (there were few others during 
the afternoon / evening); a simply 'beautiful' storm with great colour 
(thanks to the setting sun), powerful updrafts and 4cm hail.

(ii) 1/10/99 - another severe storm which moved through Sydney with a quite 
spectacular gust front, chunky lowerings and intense CGs at close range.

The rest of the season I'm glad to say is history....


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From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at rubix.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Victorian low
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A low of 998 analysed sitting over the SW corner of the state at 10am,
pressure in Melbourne atm is 1000hPa, temperature 11.8C, wind still out of
the NNE. Pressure at Warrnambool is 996hPa.  Isolated storms forecast for
the far SW of Victoria - anyone heard any sparks yet?

The change in the Skew-t from last night for Melbourne is very telling -
nice deep moist layer between 600 & 400hPa
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/reg/IDS65024/IDS65024.shtml

Click on the button for Melbourne

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Hi ppl

Well it's midday
scatted St scud cloud, bright white clouds looking through the gaps in the 
scud, looks as though a good burst of Cb/Ca's are on the was, temp is 
currently at 7degs. Typical Ballarat winters day, who'd want to move north, 
urgh!

Les

PS I saw a tiny bit of that weather show on Seven last night, well I must 
say the YaNKS ARE cRAZY bastards! But we gotta admire them :o)
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Subject: aus-wx: weather at Tallai (Gold Coast Hinterland)
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<DIV>NW winds are light to moderate at times.&nbsp; Rather warm today, had a min 
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Hi all,

Well, I can say one thing, and that is Adelaide is well and truly sodden
after mucho rain o'night.  That sat pic does look impressive, especially
that 'comma' of enhanced convection well behind the front.  Here in
Adelaide the morning has been fairly benign with the odd shower, but I'm
definetely starting to see some verticality in the clouds now and the
temperature is dropping, so I'd say a trip to the beach is in order and
hopefully something will make landfall around 4 or 5 pm.

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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Hi everybody

     Lightning discharge rate at 1500hrs within 100 to 150k of Geelong up to
4to8 per min anybody make a fix.
                                            Clyve h
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> A low of 998 analysed sitting over the SW corner of the state at 10am,
> pressure in Melbourne atm is 1000hPa, temperature 11.8C, wind still out of
> the NNE. Pressure at Warrnambool is 996hPa.  Isolated storms forecast for
> the far SW of Victoria - anyone heard any sparks yet?
>
> The change in the Skew-t from last night for Melbourne is very telling -
> nice deep moist layer between 600 & 400hPa
> http://www.bom.gov.au/products/reg/IDS65024/IDS65024.shtml
>
> Click on the button for Melbourne
>
> username: bomw0007
> password: aviation
>
>
>
> Jane
> ---------------------------------------
> Jane ONeill
> ASWA - Victoria
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
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> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=860580305-25072000>I just heard on the 
radio that the bureau is forecasting a storm this afternoon, in SE-QLD? Had a 
look at the Energex Lightning tracker, but there is no sign of it there. I'm 
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=510122105-25072000>I've 
had a look on all the webcams from Coolangatta to Noosa and out to Oakey and the 
sky is perfectly clear on all of them. No warnings from the bureau yet, so it 
looks like the storm isn't going to happen today.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=510122105-25072000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=510122105-25072000>David 
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
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  Findlay<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 25 July 2000 3:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
  aussie-weather at world.std.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: Storm in 
  SE-QLD?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=860580305-25072000>I just heard on 
  the radio that the bureau is forecasting a storm this afternoon, in SE-QLD? 
  Had a look at the Energex Lightning tracker, but there is no sign of it there. 
  I'm just look for a webcam near Towoomba now, so I will see if I can see 
  anything on that. Anyone seen any sign of a storm?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:51:46 +1000
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Hi David,

I think they meant tomorrow, as that's what the BoM forecast is (poss
storm in SE QLD tomorrow).  I'm not quite as confident as the BoM are, I
have a feeling the cold air might lag behind the SW wind change, so by
the time the cold and coldest air comes through, it'll be too dry for
storms.  Lets hope I'm wrong though!  There are some showers near Moree
on radar, but nothing overly substantial.  Mind you, that NE'ly is nice,
and it'll get into the mid 20's tomorrow.

We can only live in hope, but I'm not too confident.

> David Findlay wrote:
> 
> I just heard on the radio that the bureau is forecasting a storm this
> afternoon, in SE-QLD? Had a look at the Energex Lightning tracker, but
> there is no sign of it there. I'm just look for a webcam near Towoomba
> now, so I will see if I can see anything on that. Anyone seen any sign
> of a storm?
> 
> David Findlay

-- 
Anthony Cornelius
Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
(ASWA)
(07) 3390 4812
14 Kinsella St
Belmont, Brisbane
QLD, 4153
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From: "Nathan Thompson" <philmed at health.on.net>
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Hi Andrew,

Here the URL for Air services briefings
http://www.airservices.gov.au/brief/areabrf.htm

>From Nathan Thompson.

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> From: Andrew Miskelly <amiskelly at ozemail.com.au>
> To: Aussie Weather <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Subject: aus-wx: Airservices Briefings
> Date: Tuesday, 25 July 2000 9:55
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> How do I get on to the Airservices Briefings these days? The site has
> changed around since last time I used it (through ASWA members site),
> but that was a while ago.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Andrew.
> 
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:03:03 +1000
From: Andrew Miskelly <amiskelly at ozemail.com.au>
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Damn straight Jane!! Love your philosophy!

Cheers,

Andrew.

MSC - Jane ONeill wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> I believe that you can categorise most people into four categories:
> 
> Tornado Chasers
> Severe Storm Chasers
> Storm Chasers
> Weather Chasers
> <snip>
> 
> <begin philosophy>
> 
> Thank goodness for other weather chasers!!! - I'm a weather chaser  (as
> opposed to the other 3 categories) who has a nasty habit of driving with 1.5
> eyes on the sky and .5 of an eye on the traffic.
> 
> Like Anthony, I'm happy to get the newspaper, a good cup of coffee, a
> chocolate bar & a comfortable chair & spend the next 4 hours sitting in a
> paddock just watching - not necessarily doing anything else, but just
> watching and learning about the atmospheric processes at work.  I tend to
> spend any spare minutes I have during the day on top of the hill 5 minutes
> from work just having a look at what's going on - I take the scenic route if
> I go to the bank because it gives me a clear view to the S round to the NE.
> If there's anything worth getting excited about I can be found on the roof
> with the camera and the video. (and I know that Andrew & Claire McDonald
> have been getting on their roof for years & scaring the neighbours!!!)
> 
> I've been known to take a detour and drive home via Seymour & Yea (that's
> only 250kms further than the usual 26kms - but I did it 2 afternoons in a
> row in February as Anthony will attest), or via Drouin  if there's anything
> remotely interesting to be seen - you may think I'm totally crazy (nothing
> new there) - but the amount that I have learnt while doing this sort of
> thing is invaluable.....and you train yourself to notice features which to
> others may appear totally insignificant, but which may actually be the
> precursor to something happening a little later on.
> 
> Watch, watch & watch some more...learn the patterns of your local area, then
> go and learn the patterns for somewhere else, look upstream, look
> downstream, talk to people about the forecasts, theorise, analyse, talk to
> people more, discuss, watch, talk, read, think & don't ever stop
> learning!!!...and then as Anthony said - be amazed at how many people there
> are out there...just like you!!!! and enjoy the friendships that develop as
> part of this amazing weather process.
> 
> </ end philosophy>
> 
> Jane
> ---------------------------------------
> Jane ONeill
> ASWA - Victoria
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> 
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Hi all
My pressure has reached 995hpa ay 1600 low at surface near Ararat to Colac
cold air starting to rap around a nice lot of cold air moving across
SAtowards west NSW.
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> A low of 998 analysed sitting over the SW corner of the state at 10am,
> pressure in Melbourne atm is 1000hPa, temperature 11.8C, wind still out of
> the NNE. Pressure at Warrnambool is 996hPa.  Isolated storms forecast for
> the far SW of Victoria - anyone heard any sparks yet?
>
> The change in the Skew-t from last night for Melbourne is very telling -
> nice deep moist layer between 600 & 400hPa
> http://www.bom.gov.au/products/reg/IDS65024/IDS65024.shtml
>
> Click on the button for Melbourne
>
> username: bomw0007
> password: aviation
>
>
>
> Jane
> ---------------------------------------
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hey dave
they are forecasting the possibility of storms tomorrow. can't see anything
from the gold coast. haze is starting to push off now, can see blue sky
clearer now.
there is nuthing significant b4 you get to goondiwindi which is 300 k west
of here. they might be getting stormy conditions.
steve

At 03:07 PM 7/25/00 +1000, you wrote:
>   I just heard on the  radio that the bureau is forecasting a storm this
>afternoon, in SE-QLD? Had a  look at the Energex Lightning tracker, but
>there is no sign of it there. I'm  just look for a webcam near Towoomba
>now, so I will see if I can see anything on  that. Anyone seen any sign of
>a storm?   David  Findlay 
Steve Baynham
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:22:18 +1000
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<p>HI,
<p>Just got SMS from friend in Albury/Wodonga, currently getting very heavy
rain down there.. Thunder was
<br>reported early this morning.&nbsp; Rain has been falling in Wodonga
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Things are getting interesting...

NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

Severe Thunderstorm Advice

Issued at 4:00pm on Tuesday the 25th of July 2000 for Alpine and the 
Northeast
Districts.

At 4pm this afternoon there was an area of thunderstorms between Benalla and
Lake Eildon moving eastsoutheast at 60km/h. People in these districts are
advised that there is the risk of severe thunderstorms this afternoon and
evening producing wind gusts over 90km/h which may cause damage to property.

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From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at rubix.net.au>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Victorian low / STA for Victoria
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BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
Severe Thunderstorm Advice

Issued at 4:00pm on Tuesday the 25th of July 2000 for Alpine and the
Northeast
Districts.

At 4pm this afternoon there was an area of thunderstorms between Benalla and
Lake Eildon moving eastsoutheast at 60km/h. People in these districts are
advised that there is the risk of severe thunderstorms this afternoon and
evening producing wind gusts over 90km/h which may cause damage to property.

This advice is valid until 10pm Tuesday, 25/07/2000 and should not be used
after this time.

..............................................................

Winds in Victoria swinging around from the NNW to the SW and associated
temperature drop had reached Cape Otway at 4.30pm.  Temperatures in eastern
SA have dropped to between 5-8C with the wind change!!!!!!!    A lot of cold
air showing up in southern SA heading for Victoria.

Report from Canberra is that snow is possible (if not probable) this
evening!

Jane
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:09:07 +1000
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<br>would be getting some rain too..
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From: "Nick Sykes" <nsykes22 at optushome.com.au>
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Hey all

Just studying the latest sat pic loop and have noticed what appears to a
very cold pool of cold air been thrusted north from way down south. It is
the area of discolourization on the latest gmsd sat pic. I'm tipping some
healthy cold air Cb's to form out of this new pool as it moves into the
warmer waters :)

http://members.xoom.com/nsykes/vicanimation.htm

Pressure still dropping here in Clayton, Melbourne, near 998 now. Waiting
for the SW winds to come so we can get some action.

Nick Sykes

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From: "Michael Thompson" <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
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<DIV>After an almost cloudless late afternoon I can see the line of clouds 
clearly to the west. Question is will anything survive the ride over the 
escarpment. There also appears a line of thunder activity from perhaps the upper 
Hunter right back to Walgett.</DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>5.06pm&nbsp; 25/07/2000 
  <P>Nice steady rain in Bathurst now, quite strong winds as well.. Radar very 
  interesting.. I would say Orange <BR>would be getting some rain too.. 
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:46:19 -0700
From: Lindsay <writer at lisp.com.au>
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Blackheath Tuesday 6pm EST

Fresh north westerly winds with persistant, light rain.

Temp = 11 degrees

G'day Sam and all,

Looking forward to this front (s). Hope it gives us a bit of snow. Still
very mild here after a day that got to 13.5 at my place.

Rain a little heavier now.

Lindsay Pearce
PS; Channel Ten just posted 9 degrees currently for Katoomba during the
5:50pm weather report. I'm curious to know how we are around 2 degrees
warmer here in Blackheath.


macdonald wrote:
> 
> G'day all
> I've been looking at the MRF models, and other forecast/predictions
> from other people.  I would n't be surpised this time that Guyra will
> have better falls of snow.  However, back in the May outbreak the New
> England highway was closed between Armidale and Guyra due to
> ice/snow.  My source was from the radio station 2AD and the Ampol at
> Guyra.   So the highway should be closed again - maybe for a day( or
> two).!
> 
> Anyway, thankyou Don for replying to my email.  G'day to Lindsay,
> how's it in your area today?
> cheers
> Sam

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From: "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Early Spring maybe. Have noticed that the wattle trees have been flowering
here for about 3 weeks already.

----- Original Message -----
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> Thanks for that post Andrew; plenty of emotion and insight for those of us
> who couldn't make the chase. It also made me go outside and well....
spring
> is surely on the way. Although there are no guarantees insofar as what
sort
> of a chase season it will be, the wait is half the fun.
>
> As far as Anthony's categories go, I am definitely of the storm chaser
> variety; I love thunderstorms severe or not. Nevertheless, anyone who did
> see me out in the field last year (ie 99/00) could be excused for thinking
> otherwise. Notable examples include; 6 complete and utter busts around
> Sydney and the Hunter (and I'll drag Paul Graham down with me here; sorry
> Paul!); a dryline bust on Sydney's southwest outskirts - definitely
Jimmy's
> fault ;-) - and a 1 week king-of-busts (4/6/00 - 10-6/00) taking in such
US
> states as Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, South Dakota and Iowa.
>
> Still, my two most memorable storms of the 99/00 season were just that and
> didn't even require a chase:-
>
> (i)  the 6:00 pm 22/9/99 Sydney severe storm (there were few others during
> the afternoon / evening); a simply 'beautiful' storm with great colour
> (thanks to the setting sun), powerful updrafts and 4cm hail.
>
> (ii) 1/10/99 - another severe storm which moved through Sydney with a
quite
> spectacular gust front, chunky lowerings and intense CGs at close range.
>
> The rest of the season I'm glad to say is history....
>
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From: "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Good stuff!!!!!!
(the report and what may come)

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> Things are getting interesting...
>
> NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
>
> Severe Thunderstorm Advice
>
> Issued at 4:00pm on Tuesday the 25th of July 2000 for Alpine and the
> Northeast
> Districts.
>
> At 4pm this afternoon there was an area of thunderstorms between Benalla
and
> Lake Eildon moving eastsoutheast at 60km/h. People in these districts are
> advised that there is the risk of severe thunderstorms this afternoon and
> evening producing wind gusts over 90km/h which may cause damage to
property.
>
> This advice is valid until 10pm Tuesday, 25/07/2000 and should not be used
> after
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I can vouch for that. I'm in Rutherglen, 40km west 
of Wodonga. Heavy rain all around but missed here. Very small hail about 4pm and 
1mm of rain. At 4.30pm heavy rain was chasing the Murray river (north of here) 
and more to the south possibly around Wangaratta. One very heavy downpour noted 
in the South of here in the mountains somewhere about 4pm. I can clearly see 
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  <P>HI, 
  <P>Just got SMS from friend in Albury/Wodonga, currently getting very heavy 
  rain down there.. Thunder was <BR>reported early this morning.&nbsp; Rain has 
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Hi everyone,

I went to school with a fever on both days this week and I felt selfish of 
passing it on to other members of staff. So I went to the doctors and I 
don't know what came of me!!! Due to the amount of waiting time, my mind 
begins to think. If I have time of which I should do, make it two days. I 
went in there and tried to hint that passing on the sickness is not a good 
thing... He said" Let me check you out first".. Oh shit... Well there was 
no worries about my sickness as I did have the flu. Obviously his advice 
would have been to take a couple of days to rest....... I think he thought 
I was faking but he noticed I was quite affected.

Well I had to make sure I walked out of the place in an orderly fashion. 
The excitement was getting too much.

Now guys, I have not taken a days off work in 4 years and that was one day. 
Well this will be two days well timed I hope. If there are others who might 
feel a little dazed or ill. Don't worry - join the club.

I will make my decision tomorrow morning to see what I shall do.

Can call me up to 9pm only please on 96271943   or a little later on the 
mobile   0408020468

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Glenorie 700pm
Now raining moderately here,, there is lightning visble to the nw, sydney 
siders have a look :)

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From: "Debbie Parker" <debp at rie.net.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian low
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There was some sensational mammatus around this morning - 10AM at Boronia.
Unfortunately I couldn't get away from work to take some photos but I really
enjoyed what I saw!
It didn't last long - blown away out of sight. :-(

Debbie Parker

Boronia, Melbourne

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> A low of 998 analysed sitting over the SW corner of the state at 10am,
> pressure in Melbourne atm is 1000hPa, temperature 11.8C, wind still out of
> the NNE. Pressure at Warrnambool is 996hPa.  Isolated storms forecast for
> the far SW of Victoria - anyone heard any sparks yet?
>
> The change in the Skew-t from last night for Melbourne is very telling -
> nice deep moist layer between 600 & 400hPa
> http://www.bom.gov.au/products/reg/IDS65024/IDS65024.shtml
>
> Click on the button for Melbourne
>
> username: bomw0007
> password: aviation
>
>
>
> Jane
> ---------------------------------------
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>
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian low
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Hi all .
Look out Alice Springs! .its been a long time since i saw cold air cbs
getting that far into SA and still heading north this large field of cold
air is moving towards the sub tropical jet and perhaps some of these cold
air showers may reach the NT border WOW that may be one of the very few
times it has occurred keep watching .Still a nice low near Vic my pressure
still 995hpa at 2000hrs regards Clyve H
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> A low of 998 analysed sitting over the SW corner of the state at 10am,
> pressure in Melbourne atm is 1000hPa, temperature 11.8C, wind still out of
> the NNE. Pressure at Warrnambool is 996hPa.  Isolated storms forecast for
> the far SW of Victoria - anyone heard any sparks yet?
>
> The change in the Skew-t from last night for Melbourne is very telling -
> nice deep moist layer between 600 & 400hPa
> http://www.bom.gov.au/products/reg/IDS65024/IDS65024.shtml
>
> Click on the button for Melbourne
>
> username: bomw0007
> password: aviation
>
>
>
> Jane
> ---------------------------------------
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> ASWA - Victoria
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
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> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Hello from Leopold (Geelong)
SW change arrived 2010hrs gusts to 60kph temp fell from 12.4 to 8.0 in 4min
pressure jumped from 995 to 999 in 2min! not bad only light rain though.
regards Clyve H.
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> BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
> VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
>
> NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
> Severe Thunderstorm Advice
>
> Issued at 4:00pm on Tuesday the 25th of July 2000 for Alpine and the
> Northeast
> Districts.
>
> At 4pm this afternoon there was an area of thunderstorms between Benalla
and
> Lake Eildon moving eastsoutheast at 60km/h. People in these districts are
> advised that there is the risk of severe thunderstorms this afternoon and
> evening producing wind gusts over 90km/h which may cause damage to
property.
>
> This advice is valid until 10pm Tuesday, 25/07/2000 and should not be used
> after this time.
>
> ..............................................................
>
> Winds in Victoria swinging around from the NNW to the SW and associated
> temperature drop had reached Cape Otway at 4.30pm.  Temperatures in
eastern
> SA have dropped to between 5-8C with the wind change!!!!!!!    A lot of
cold
> air showing up in southern SA heading for Victoria.
>
> Report from Canberra is that snow is possible (if not probable) this
> evening!
>
> Jane
>  ---------------------------------------
> Jane ONeill
>  ASWA - Victoria
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>
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:46:32 +1000
From: David Carroll <davidkc at nia.net.au>
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8.43am 25/07/2000
<p>About 10 min ago, lightning and thunder in Bathurst, saw flash through
window, 2 seconds later thunder.&nbsp; Very close indeed.&nbsp; Rain has
got alot heavier than earlier this afternoon..
<p>Was just talking with Jimmy, he has good rain happening at his place.
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Cows lying in the corner of a paddock in a group. Cows don't like lying on
wet grass, so indicates rain on the way. (From a country boy). Dogs that
don't normally lay on their backs is another one. My dog has mad cow disease
so he's not a good indication at all!

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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: bird conspiracy


> Hi weather peeple (not a spelling mistake)
>
> All this fuss about birds as a matter of fact i occasionally use frogs as
> well! more of that another time.... As a boy my first encounter with using
> birds as a weather tool was on my uncles farm. he used to say if you saw a
> crow fly backwards its going to be windy, so after that i thought maybe
> using birds as a weather tool might be a possibility.
>  The best place  for weather bird analysis is at the beach and seagulls
are
> tops for weather indications .... example  when seagulls sit on the ground
> head down ass up expect a strong wind gust , i noticed that these birds
are
> also aware of eddy wind vorticity because sometimes you could see them
with
> head down ass down these birds could anticipate the swirling flow around
> them in this position    therefore avoiding cold drafts up their backside
> also these birds would rear up head high ass down in this position the
birds
> were looking around to see how the weather was going indicating they are
> weatherwise! but be careful seagulls are  very lazy birds and during a
lull
> can be seen fluttering several meters above ground with head high and ass
> pointed down in this position duck for cover........... peep peep
>                                                           regards just for
> fun Clyve H
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> From: Leslie Baxter <mrt1000 at hotmail.com>
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:44 AM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: bird conspiracy
>
>
> >
> > Stop talking shit about birds ok, if you want to talk about birds, you
> > should have subscribed to the birds mailing list, weather people
> weather!!!
> > Birds, phucking unbelievable.
> >
> > Get back on topic would yaz!
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From: "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian low / STA for Victoria
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Well, not much happened in my part of the NE. Very light hail and 1mm of
rain in a few minutes and that was it.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian low / STA for Victoria


> Hello from Leopold (Geelong)
> SW change arrived 2010hrs gusts to 60kph temp fell from 12.4 to 8.0 in
4min
> pressure jumped from 995 to 999 in 2min! not bad only light rain though.
> regards Clyve H.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at rubix.net.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 4:48 PM
> Subject: RE: aus-wx: Victorian low / STA for Victoria
>
>
> > BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
> > VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
> >
> > NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
> > Severe Thunderstorm Advice
> >
> > Issued at 4:00pm on Tuesday the 25th of July 2000 for Alpine and the
> > Northeast
> > Districts.
> >
> > At 4pm this afternoon there was an area of thunderstorms between Benalla
> and
> > Lake Eildon moving eastsoutheast at 60km/h. People in these districts
are
> > advised that there is the risk of severe thunderstorms this afternoon
and
> > evening producing wind gusts over 90km/h which may cause damage to
> property.
> >
> > This advice is valid until 10pm Tuesday, 25/07/2000 and should not be
used
> > after this time.
> >
> > ..............................................................
> >
> > Winds in Victoria swinging around from the NNW to the SW and associated
> > temperature drop had reached Cape Otway at 4.30pm.  Temperatures in
> eastern
> > SA have dropped to between 5-8C with the wind change!!!!!!!    A lot of
> cold
> > air showing up in southern SA heading for Victoria.
> >
> > Report from Canberra is that snow is possible (if not probable) this
> > evening!
> >
> > Jane
> >  ---------------------------------------
> > Jane ONeill
> >  ASWA - Victoria
> >  http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> >
> >  Melbourne Storm Chasers
> >  http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Hi all
Have been picking up sparks for last 30 min within 100k of Leopold discharge
rate between 1and 3 per min nice spinup near Mt Gambier wich seems to be
gathering strenth jet has intensified accross SA too worth keeping an eye on
this system for the next 6 to 12 hours a lot of cold air starting to rap
around.
                                 regards Clyve H
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> A low of 998 analysed sitting over the SW corner of the state at 10am,
> pressure in Melbourne atm is 1000hPa, temperature 11.8C, wind still out of
> the NNE. Pressure at Warrnambool is 996hPa.  Isolated storms forecast for
> the far SW of Victoria - anyone heard any sparks yet?
>
> The change in the Skew-t from last night for Melbourne is very telling -
> nice deep moist layer between 600 & 400hPa
> http://www.bom.gov.au/products/reg/IDS65024/IDS65024.shtml
>
> Click on the button for Melbourne
>
> username: bomw0007
> password: aviation
>
>
>
> Jane
> ---------------------------------------
> Jane ONeill
> ASWA - Victoria
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
> Melbourne Storm Chasers
> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
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Hi All,

The cold air has well and truly reached us!  Snow predicted for the Lofties
and Flinders ranges tonight.  At one stage at Henley beach this afternoon
at about 5pm I had at least 5 anvils in sight at all stages of development.
Beautiful.  And we finished off the day with a nice little guster.

Now bring on the snow.  All members out east should batten down the
hatches..... ;)

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Glenorie 700pm
Now raining moderately here,, there is lightning visble to the nw, sydney 
siders have a look :)

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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:58:36 +1000
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9.00pm, 25/07.
<p>Just heard Police report of hail in Kelso, Bathurst area. Hailstones
reported were quite large, I would say bigger than 2cm.&nbsp; Lightning
strikes causing blackouts in parts of Bathurst.&nbsp; No hail where my
house is.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:37:07 +1000
From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at rubix.net.au>
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clyve herbert wrote:

> Hello from Leopold (Geelong)
> SW change arrived 2010hrs gusts to 60kph temp fell from 12.4 to 8.0 in 4min
> pressure jumped from 995 to 999 in 2min! not bad only light rain though.
> regards Clyve H.

............................................

**Update**
S change finally got to the eastern suburbs at 10.17pm
Temperature dropped from 8.2 to 7.7C.
Max wind gust 31 kph
Wind chill got to -2C
Pressure 999hPa
<2 - 10mm/hr rain blowing horizontally and not registering in the bucket
............................................

The Victorian aviation forecast reads like this........

09:30 UTC (7.30pm) , 25/07/2000
AMEND AREA FORECAST 251000 (9pm 25/7) TO 252300 (9am 26/7) AREAS 30/32

AMenD OVERVIEW:
TROUGH TOCUMWAL/FLIKI (midway between Flinders & King Islands) 11Z (9pm) AND FAR
EAST OF VICTORIA BY 17Z (3am). SCATTERED RAIN NEAR AND E OF TROUGH WITH LOW
CLOUD WINDWARD RANGES. ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS/HAIL. SHOWERS/HEAVY SHOWERS W OF
TROUGH BUT MORE ISOL N  OF RANGES. SN(snow) ABV 5000FT LOWERING TO ABV 3000FT W
OF TROUGH.

SUBDIVISIONS:
A: E OF TROUGH
B: W OF TROUGH

WIND:(direction/knots)         temperatures(eg: MS10)
      2000      5000      7000      10000             14000             18500
 A   340/30   310/35   310/40   310/40 MS10  290/45 MS15    290/45 MS25
 B:  200/25   200/30   200/30   200/35 MS13  200/40 MS17    200/40 MS30

AMD CLOUD:
 ISOL CB 3000/30000. BKN ST 1000/3000 IN PRECIP AND LOCALLY ABOUT WINDWARD
SLOPES OF RANGES. BKN CU/SC 3000/12000 SCT N OF RANGES W OF TROUGH. ISOL CU TOPS
TO 15000. AREAS BKN ACAS ABV 10000 SCT W OF  FRONT.

<snip uninteresting bits>

FREEZING LEVEL: 5500 DECREASING TO 3500 W OF FRONT.

(CAPS = BoM, lower case = my explanatory notes)

Jane
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Melbourne Storm Chasers
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ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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