From: paulmoss at tpg.com.au
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I would agree with Michael B on this one - the "whole of weather" 
pattern doesnt seem like a front - seems that the trough is drawing 
some instablity from North - for example the weather here recently 
has been very Wet season with high humidity throughout and fogs!!

For example yesterday morning at 8am the Temp was 24C with 100% 
relative humidity - very unusual this time of year. Yesterday was 31C 
with Humnidity of 61% which is reasonably sticky compared to the 
normal 40% & less that the Dry normally has. 

Seems more like there may be a mid level Low?? assoc with a trough - 
and looking at the recent satpic animation seems that the Low may 
have moved offshore central / Northern NSW causing the storms that MB 
is hearing......... Maybe Laurier & co. could comment?

Just my 2c worth from a dry dry dry but gorgeous Darwin day.......... 
but bloody boring! hehehe

Paul in
Darwin.

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From: Harald Richter <hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov>
Subject: RE: aus-wx: setup for recent NE NSW/ SE QLD storms (fwd)
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Hi all:

PID (Paul in Darwin) wrote:

> I would agree with Michael B on this one - the "whole of weather" 
> pattern doesnt seem like a front - seems that the trough is drawing 
> some instablity from North - for example the weather here recently 
> has been very Wet season with high humidity throughout and fogs!!

I am looking at the 11 July 2000 16 UTC setup for the NSW/QLD coastline here.
The 12 UTC BOM manual surface analysis has an offshore low (~ 1004 hPa)
analysed.  The MSL anaysis of the low contains no fronts.
That per se does not mean that there are no fronts, as there are
also insufficient in situ surface data to analyse a front over the ocean.
All we have in terms of in situ data is the surface data over land.   
The raw 16 UTC surface obs show fairly uniform westerlies along the NSW/QLD 
coast (no wind shift line).  The surface pressure gradient points due west,
so the lowest pressure is right along the coast (~ 1014 hPa).
There is a decent EW temperature gradient between the higher
terrain (~ 0 C) and the coastline (~ 12 C) which correlates
with a somewhat weaker dewpoint gradient.  The coastal moisture
might trap more outgoing longwave radiation and prevent radiational
cooling.  In other words, the temperature gradient is not the result 
of some deformation/convergence/flow feature associated with 
the flow around the offshore low, and I would not call it a front.

A surface front is not a necessary ingredient for convection.
The 23 UTC sounding (10 Jul) at Brisbane shows some very steep
lapse rates up to 500 hPa (with - 26 C just below 500 hPa).
Maybe orographic lifting got the parcels up to their level
of free convection where they took off like lightning with
those steep lapse rates.

> Seems more like there may be a mid level Low?? assoc with a trough - 
> and looking at the recent satpic animation seems that the Low may 
> have moved offshore central / Northern NSW causing the storms that MB 
> is hearing

Yep. I think the low provided that cool air aloft. 

> Just my 2c worth from a dry dry dry but gorgeous Darwin day.......... 
> but bloody boring! hehehe

You have a capping inversion from hell (or from High) on top of
your boundary layer, nothing a surface temperature of 55 C 
couldn't fix :)  

Under just another capping inversion,  
Harald


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have just finished viewing "Eye of the Storm", the 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the Sydney Supercell Hailstorm - ASWA&nbsp; NSW rep 
Michael Thompson had a huge part in this, it was all there, the video footage, 
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Hi ppl

Ballarat's Weather:
Well we have a cold front on our doorstep, should we let it in??? Only if it 
goes flash bang; ha as if!
Looks to be a rain band b4 the change, lots of stratus cloud and cirrus, no 
Cumulus though; yup nimbostratus shitus rain band.
A bit blowy.
A bit chilly.
Maybe a cold aircell later this avo perhaps, more than likely tomorrow

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>From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at rubix.net.au>
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>To: "Aussie Weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Subject: aus-wx: MSC's Weather Cafe
>Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:54:47 +1000
>
>Dear all,
>
>I've been adding so much to the MSC Forecasting Page that it has developed
>too many subsections, so I've renamed it 'MSC's Weather Cafe'.
>
>I've come across a nifty little Java applet which illustrates the effect
>that changes in air temperature and dewpoint have on the condensation 
>level,
>and another which allows you to 'build your own congesting cumulus' -
>actually, the last time I tried I got it to rain, so I may need to change
>the description - and if anyone can get a tornado out of it could you 
>please
>let the rest of us know, and I'll change the description to read 'build 
>your
>own supercell'......
>
>These are 2 great little demos to play with when you're trying to 
>understand
>the interrelationships between atmospheric variables (or alternatively,
>suffering from a severe lack of storms while the rest of the country 
>gambols
>about amid gust fronts, lightning & funnels).....
>
>Go to 'MSC's Weather Cafe' at
>http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/forecasting.htm
>
>and go down to the Just for Fun Section....
>
>and then if you really have to, after all of this, you can go to the 
>Weather
>Calculator, turn your speakers up loud and play with the 'Cricket Chirps'.
>
>.....what's wrong with my sense of humour Maud???????
>
>Jane
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This is pretty cool, my little storm is almost at the top of the picture 
frame. Can you get more than just rain?

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From: "Peter Adderley" <adderley at acay.com.au>
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From: Leslie Baxter
> Ballarat's Weather:
> Well we have a cold front on our doorstep, should we let it in??? Only if
it
> goes flash bang; ha as if!

Keep the damn thing down there will you?
If you think it will have passed Sydney before the full lunar eclipse
on Sunday night, then that's ok. :-)

http://www.abc.net.au/science/space/moon/

Peter
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The cold front approaching the SW looks quite impressive on sat pics, and
looks to be one of the strongest so far this winter. Also a nice looking
pool of cold air behind it.

More fronts are due for the next week or so.

FORECAST FOR THE PERTH METROPOLITAN AREA
Issued at 11:36am WST on Wednesday the 12th of July 2000 for the remainder of
today and Thursday 

FORECAST:
Fine this afternoon. Showers developing overnight and becoming heavy for a
period in the morning with one or two thunderstorms. N'ly winds strengthening
ahead of a squally W'ly change in the morning.


    TODAY'S TEMPERATURE:                   Maximum: 19 
    TOMORROW'S TEMPERATURES:  Minimum: 12  Maximum: 17

STRONG WIND AND GALE WARNING
for coastal waters between Shark Bay and Eucla
Issued at 11:40 am WST on Wednesday, 12 July 2000

Situation: A strong cold front approaching from the west will move through the
southwest of Western Australia on Thursday. The front is expected to be near
Cape Leeuwin at 2 am, Jurien Bay to Bremer Bay at 10 am and Carnarvon to
Israelite Bay at 6 pm on Thursday.

SHARK BAY TO GERALDTON: Strong Wind Warning.
N/NW'ly winds are expected to strengthen to 20/30 knots late tonight and
tomorrow morning ahead of a W/SW'ly change 20/30 knots during the day tomorrow.
Winds moderating after the change. Seas rising to 2.5m tomorrow. Swell 4.0m.

GERALDTON TO ISRAELITE BAY: Gale Warning.
N/NW'ly strengthening to 30/40 knots from the west ahead of a W/SW'ly
change and
squalls to 60 knots in thunderatorms with the front. Winds are likely to reach
40/45 knots tomorrow morning between Mandurah and Bremer Bay with the front.
Seas rising to 4.0m from the west. Swell to 4.0m.

ISRAELITE BAY TO EUCLA: Strong Wind Warning.
Expect N/NW'ly winds to strengthen from the west 25/33 knots from the west
tomorrow.
Seas rising to 2.5m tomorrow. 

Jacob
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Storms this Avo building in the mid West.

Check out this Satelite Pic, nice blobs
http://203.41.218.143/products/images/sat/vic_sat_web.shtml
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:47:32 +1000
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I live in North Katoomba & this morning I woke up around 8 am, looked
outside & the lawn & small shrubs were covered in thick ice. It was
rubbish night last night & the recycling bin was literally stuck to the
icy lawn. I live in a steep valley which turns into a frost hollow on
frosty nights & the native tea tree bushes literally freeze up in thick
frosts!.
At 10:30am the frost was still around in shady places.
It's 3:45pm now & 8 degrees. It looks like another frosty night ahead!.

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I too saw this ( I am working on the Isle of Man atm) and enjoyed Mr 
Thompson's contribution.  Well done Michael!

regards,

John Roenfeldt


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>Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:10:24 +0100
>
>Everybody,
>
>Have just finished viewing "Eye of the Storm", the first part was about 
>Oklahoma, the second part was about a lightning strike at a South African 
>football match and....
>
>the Sydney Supercell Hailstorm - ASWA  NSW rep Michael Thompson had a huge 
>part in this, it was all there, the video footage, the rivers of hail, the 
>report to the BoM that was ignored, all of it! He'll have to do something 
>about that ponytail though <g>
>
>I'll mpeg the video I've taken and get it off to my state rep forthwith....
>
>Les

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Actually the camera people missed a good ( but tragic ) news story that was
unfolding in the background. You will have noticed the lovely surf ! well
there were helicopters buzzing around too. The film crew cursed these as
they had to wait for quieter periods. I became suspicious and suggested that
a fisherman may have been washed off the notorious honeycomb rocks nearby, I
don not think they took me seriously.  I ended up that two vietnamise
fisherman were washed into the water and drowned. Actually rock fishing is
Australia's most dangerous sport.

Michael

>
> I too saw this ( I am working on the Isle of Man atm) and enjoyed Mr
> Thompson's contribution.  Well done Michael!
>
> regards,
>
> John Roenfeldt
>
>
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> >Subject: aus-wx: Eye of the Storm series 3
> >Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:10:24 +0100
> >
> >Everybody,
> >
> >Have just finished viewing "Eye of the Storm", the first part was about
> >Oklahoma, the second part was about a lightning strike at a South African
> >football match and....
> >
> >the Sydney Supercell Hailstorm - ASWA  NSW rep Michael Thompson had a
huge
> >part in this, it was all there, the video footage, the rivers of hail,
the
> >report to the BoM that was ignored, all of it! He'll have to do something
> >about that ponytail though <g>
> >
> >I'll mpeg the video I've taken and get it off to my state rep
forthwith....
> >
> >Les
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<DIV>Yikes, I can only imagine what I looked like - let alone what I spoke like. 
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have just finished viewing "Eye of the Storm", 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the Sydney Supercell Hailstorm - ASWA&nbsp; NSW 
  rep Michael Thompson had a huge part in this, it was all there, the video 
  footage, the rivers of hail, the report to the BoM that was ignored, all of 
  it! He'll have to do something about that ponytail though 
  &lt;g&gt;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'll mpeg the video I've taken and get it off to 
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PRIORITY
FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Issued at 4:00 pm WST on Wednesday, 12 July 2000

People in the Southwest, Lower West and adjacent Southern Coastal Districts
including the communities of Busselton, Bunbury, Mandurah, the Perth
metropolitan area and Albany are advised that there is a risk of severe
thunderstorms tonight and early tomorrow morning. 

Storms may be accompanied by hail, flash flooding and strong winds that could
result in damage to property.

The State Emergency Service advises that people should keep a lookout for
thunderstorms and if storms approach secure loose items, move vehicles under
cover, then stay indoors until the storms have passed. Driving conditions
may be
hazardous.

This Thunderstorm Advice will be updated at 7:00pm.

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Hi all,

I thank all those who put those fantastic pictures up on the net related to 
the outbreak and also the funnel from Andy. Well done and some excellent 
pictures. I have just viewed my video footage and I would rate it is 
average but I am not complaining. I took my photos in to be developed so 
that they could be ready and scanned but the other "incompetent" lady was 
there and has never been able to develop my photographs properly. She 
underdeveloped most of the ones I had so I just left them there to be done 
again by the other lady. Finding it harder to get good service these days. 
Hopefully I will pick them up tomorrow....

Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:30:03 +1000
From: Keith Barnett <weather at ozemail.com.au>
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The Falkland Islands one has been in the area for about a week. A week
or so ago it was 1040 Mb off the coast of Chile at about 45-50 deg S.
Just think what weather we'd get in coastal NSW if there was 1046 high
500 Km south of Tasmania. And apparently the Falklands are pretty cold
with temperatures a degree or two above freezing, so winter's still
winter there, at least as far as the temp is concerned. Must be a record
pressure for July.The other main feature is the sharp 540 trough that
extends all the way up to Uruguay or southern Brazil..

John Gaul wrote:
> 
> At 20:08 11/07/00 +1000, you wrote:
> >Someone the other day commented on high pressure well south of Tasmania.
> >Have a look at this massive high at Lat 50S near the Falkland
> >Islands..1046 Mb.
> 
> >South America has its east coast lows,too, as the map shows.
> >
> >http://www-pcmdi.llnl.gov/fiorino/wxmap/avn/archive/2000071100/avn.prp.000.
> sam.htm
> 
> The anticyclone out to the east of NZ got up to 1037 last Tuesday the 4th
> of July not long after it formed and has been maintaining a 1030 hPh
> threshold ever since. It is still  hanging around (much to the annoyance of
> a few people) I don't know how old the one near the Falklands is. Other
> charts don't show it as much tho' ???
> The one near the Chathams, now about 7 days old looks set to be there until
> the WE at least with possible strenghtening. Must be a record.
> 
> John Gaul
> NZTS/NZAHA
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:33:57 +1000
From: Keith Barnett <weather at ozemail.com.au>
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The appropriate etiquette is that one should first check if the
frequency is in use (get a high spot for UHF), or, if the frequency's
being used, call breaker and ask for permission to transmit, preferably
by way of arranging another frequency can tell you from experience here
it's extremely annoying when people just walk all over you without even
the courtesy of a warning (except where obvious line-of-sight
transmissions aren't there and you don't know the channel's in use).

John Graham wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at rubix.net.au>
> To: Aussie-wx <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 10:29 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Safe travelling
> 
> > Dear all,
> >
> >
> > The issue is safe travel this year.....btw, re CB radios - do we need to
> > advertise that we (as a group of enthusiasts) use Channel 33 when on the
> > road & in the field?  The caravanners advertise that they use Channel
> > 18, truckies & bus drivers (On The Move) use Channel 8, the open channel
> > (if you can be bothered) is Channel 11 & the emergency is Channel
> > 9.....hmm, spose I just did that.......
> 
> Hi Jane,everybody,
> You don't really need to advertise when you are on the road, except if you
> come into a big town where cb'ers might be on....I know what it's like when
> you're talking to someone & people transmit over the top of you......you can
> always change channels I suppose.....btw, truckies use chns 29, 30 & 40 on
> UHF (it depends on what highway you're on).
> A good idea would be to have a CB radio & a UHF.......UHF for the trucks
> (great for finding out where the radar units are :-) ) & the cb to keep in
> touch with the group.
> Ahh well, that's my 2c worth......
> John from Ballina
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Thanks Jimmy :)

We have the same problem at our developing place, only one lady knows the 
way I take photos, hopefully next year I can learn to develop my own 
photographs in a professional studio :)

Andrew



At 06:55 PM 7/12/00 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I thank all those who put those fantastic pictures up on the net related 
>to the outbreak and also the funnel from Andy. Well done and some 
>excellent pictures. I have just viewed my video footage and I would rate 
>it is average but I am not complaining. I took my photos in to be 
>developed so that they could be ready and scanned but the other 
>"incompetent" lady was there and has never been able to develop my 
>photographs properly. She underdeveloped most of the ones I had so I just 
>left them there to be done again by the other lady. Finding it harder to 
>get good service these days. Hopefully I will pick them up tomorrow....
>
>Jimmy Deguara
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>http://severeweather.asn.au
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It's only very early days so do not get too excited.

But some of the models are hinting at a major outbreak of cold next Tues -
Wed.

GASP, NGP and MRF all hint towards 5400 thickness to come well over SE
Australia. Unlike the last couple of fronts the 5280 is not far behind and
may affect us too.

GASP has an intense low of 964mb SW of Tasmania on Tuesday with the cold air
coming up behind it. There is a lovely jet coming up from way down near
Antarctica driving it all too.

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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:10:37 +0800
From: Mark Dwyer <mjd at iinet.net.au>
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Hi all on the list, as some of you might or might not be aware it looks
like were here in the SW of Wa are going to have arise vigorous Frontal
Feature move through Early tomorrow morning ( Thursday ) Perth Time, it
should be due on the capes around between midnight and 2 am, and Perth
around 6 am. We might lose power here ( touch wood we don't ) we haven't
so far this winter.
    So if that happens i would appreciate any radar imagery and
satellite imagery of this event, Going to be looking at the model's
soon, as there should be some damage with this front if the last few are
anything to go by. A copy of the latest STA from the Bom is below for
those interested.

MJ.

IDW10W00
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

PRIORITY
FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Issued at 6:45 pm WST on Wednesday, 12 July 2000

People in the Lower West District, Southwest District and western parts
of the
South Coastal District including the Perth metropolitan area and the
communities
of Mandurah, Bunbury, Busselton and Albany are advised that there is a
risk of
severe thunderstorms overnight and early tomorrow morning.

Storms may be accompanied by hail, flash flooding and strong winds that
could
result in damage to property.

The State Emergency Service advises that people should keep a lookout
for
thunderstorms and if storms approach secure loose items, move vehicles
under
cover, then stay indoors until the storms have passed. Driving
conditions may be
hazardous.

This Thunderstorm Advice will be updated at 10:00pm.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Barnett <weather at ozemail.com.au>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Safe travelling


> The appropriate etiquette is that one should first check if the
> frequency is in use (get a high spot for UHF), or, if the frequency's
> being used, call breaker and ask for permission to transmit, preferably
> by way of arranging another frequency can tell you from experience here
> it's extremely annoying when people just walk all over you without even
> the courtesy of a warning (except where obvious line-of-sight
> transmissions aren't there and you don't know the channel's in use).
[snip]
That's true Keith, but how many times have you put in a breaker & got told
to ! at #$^%$ ??????.....there are people out there who will let you in on a
channel, but in my years working skip on cb, & listening to the phantom
farters, jammers, music men etc. on uhf repeters, there's a lot of wankers
out there....... :-)
John

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Don't worry Michael you did great!

John R

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>Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:33:38 +1000
>
>Yikes, I can only imagine what I looked like - let alone what I spoke like. 
>You think that you will have no worries speaking on camera. I hold training 
>sessions at work all the time, but on camera it's different.
>
>Michael
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Les Crossan
>   To: aus-wx ; Jane ONeill
>   Sent: Wednesday, 12 July 2000 5:10
>   Subject: aus-wx: Eye of the Storm series 3
>
>
>   Everybody,
>
>   Have just finished viewing "Eye of the Storm", the first part was about 
>Oklahoma, the second part was about a lightning strike at a South African 
>football match and....
>
>   the Sydney Supercell Hailstorm - ASWA  NSW rep Michael Thompson had a 
>huge part in this, it was all there, the video footage, the rivers of hail, 
>the report to the BoM that was ignored, all of it! He'll have to do 
>something about that ponytail though <g>
>
>   I'll mpeg the video I've taken and get it off to my state rep 
>forthwith....
>
>   Les

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Hello folks,

I have received another confirmation from a person at Barradine referring 
to the storms on Monday. He said that the storms earlier in the morning 
when the first advice was issued, there was one major cell followed by 
another 15 minutes later. Hail was that loud and caused that much 
vibrations on the buildings that the alarm was set off in his hardware 
store(??).. This occurred around 2am and 2:15am. I wouldn't mind having 
confirmation from radar scans. Barradine is located to the NW of 
Coonabarabran about 30 minutes drive so I suspect about 40 to 50km.

Now during the afternoon, there was a second outbreak with reports of hail 
drifts. A friend of this person reported severe activity with plenty of 
hail hitting all windows of the car with gusts - very scary!!! This person 
was at a place known as Mendooran. He reported the hail drifts observed as 
he came over a hill estimated at 3" to 4" think in the fields. A whole sea 
of white. This all occurred around 2:30pm in two separate storms (this 
could have been part of the same storms as they were so large and probably 
had different areas of activity.

Well, I will see if more details are forthcoming.

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From: "Patrick Tobin" <patricktobin at ozemail.com.au>
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I hope you're right Michael - it's been a bit quiet for cold air since the
late May outbreak.

I note it is currently rather cool in eastern NSW this evening.

Some of the 10pm (12z) temps include: Canberra -1, Bathurst 0, Cooma -4,
Goulburn -3, Orange -7, Parkes 0, Young -2. Even in the coastal districts we
have Camden 2, and Wollongong 3.

With the surface temps currently below freezing, it is interesting to
speculate what might happen in Canberra if the cloud band (with some rain
patches) from the decaying front arrives overnight while the temps stay low.
Could make tomorrow morning's drive to work pretty challenging...

The above "interesting" outcome is however unlikely:

1) the cloud band is dissipating rapidly and is unlikely to reach us in any
form;
2) in the remote chance that the rain band arrives, I think the inversion
would be too shallow to survive a small amount of mixing associated with the
arrival of a rain band.

Still with the current low temps around, you just never know what might
eventuate.

I suspect the most likely outcome will be a further thickening of the
developing fog(s) and some very nice rhime frost on the trees and grasses
similar to this morning (with min of -5). If the cloud band survives to
reach here as patches of middle level cloud, the fog may take most of the
day to clear so there may be some low maximum temps around as well.

Patrick

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Date: Wednesday, 12 July 2000 21:07
Subject: aus-wx: Cold outbreak next week ?


>It's only very early days so do not get too excited.
>
>But some of the models are hinting at a major outbreak of cold next Tues -
>Wed.
>
>GASP, NGP and MRF all hint towards 5400 thickness to come well over SE
>Australia. Unlike the last couple of fronts the 5280 is not far behind and
>may affect us too.
>
>GASP has an intense low of 964mb SW of Tasmania on Tuesday with the cold
air
>coming up behind it. There is a lovely jet coming up from way down near
>Antarctica driving it all too.
>
>Michael Thompson
>http://thunder.simplenet.com
>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 12 July 2000 03:10</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: Eye of the Storm series 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Everybody,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have just finished viewing "Eye of the Storm", 
  the first part was about Oklahoma, the second part was about a lightning 
  strike at a South African football match and....</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the Sydney Supercell Hailstorm - ASWA&nbsp; NSW 
  rep Michael Thompson had a huge part in this, it was all there, the video 
  footage, the rivers of hail, the report to the BoM that was ignored, all of 
  it! He'll have to do something about that ponytail though 
  &lt;g&gt;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'll mpeg the video I've taken and get it off to 
  my state rep forthwith....</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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