From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fairy Dell Tornado F rating (was mini tornadoes) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:43:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Excerpt from "Climates & Weather Explained" by Edward Linacre & Bart Geerts: F0 - Light: tree branches broken, sign boards damaged F1 - Moderate: trees snapped, windows broken F2 - Heavy: large trees uprooted, weak structures destroyed F3 - Severe: trees levelled, cars & mobile homes overturned F4 - Devastating: timber frame house walls levelled, roofs lifted F5 - Incredible: brick homes levelled, cars & trees moved over 100m A "weak structure" typically refers to outbuildings such as sheds, barns and so forth. I was not aware of the Post Office damage, as obviously the Merrett drama overshadowed all else as far as the local media here goes. But based on this, I'd really lean towards F3. Strictly it is F4 damage, but I would have to make some allowance for the age of the building and thus, construction standards. I see no reason to underrate the damage. John. >snip John, Anthony & others, Whilst it may be reasonable to determine that the damage to the Merrett house is probably in the order of F1, The extent of damage to the former Fairy Dell Post Office is somewhat greater (ref. page 1 Bendigo Advertiser 24/6/00). This building was completely flattened. Admittedly this building was of timber frame construction, and probably of a reasonable age (perhaps 1920s). Also of note is the damage to trees adjacent to this building - they are just a tangled mess with some completely uprooted. It is my opinion that this damage is probably in the order of F2 at least. Regards, Rod Aikman 42 Panton St. Golden Square 3555 Bendigo Vic +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les Crossan" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fairy Dell Tornado F rating (was mini tornadoes) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:34:53 +0100 Organization: Cosmic EuroCon X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ----- Original Message ----- From: John Woodbridge To: Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 1:27 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fairy Dell Tornado F rating (was mini tornadoes) > Hi Anthony, > > Well yes there are many problems with the F scale Time to add my 1/2 euro's worth. The F-scale is windspeed calculated from the the damage it causes - therefore an F3 demolishing a wooden shack may not cause F3 damage to a reinforced concrete bunker! btw you cannot calculate straight line windspeed in a tornado event as it's essentially a vortex, you'd have to work out the vector components (i think), is this correct Anthony??? > and I am not convinced that the T scale is much better. I think > Fujita's view was that the best estimate of a Tornadoes strength > was the worst damage caused The Torro (T) scale is an extrapolation of the Beaufort Scale - measured windspeed causing damage - therefore an F3 may only make T3 or may be T7 if there was some way of measuring the windspeed. This problem will be resolved once and for all once tornadic wind velocities have been resolved by doppler radar or whatever. 99% of the world uses the Fujita Scale it's only us folk in the UK that use the Torro Scale.... Les Lemon - got anything on this???? Les (UK) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: johnstone at psyphw.psych.wisc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:32:46 -0500 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Iain T. Johnstone" Subject: aus-wx: Ira's tornado photos Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I was having another look at Ira's great tornado photos and one thing really stands out with the up close photo of the Pearce tornado, and that is the background of clear blue sky, with the sun visible through the tornado! I have never seen such a tornado photo before - it is really quite amazing. Perhaps along with the amazing Northam tornado, WA might snare a reputation as providing, if not the most powerful tornadoes, at least some of the most unusual and spectacular looking (I know that is very subjective, but still...). Has anyone else seen such a tornado photo, with blue skies and sun before? Cheers, a frustrated Tom in Wisconsin who's just seen the last three severe weather fronts pass just south of here and is sick of seeing so much rain without a decent payoff... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" To: "Wx Aus" Subject: aus-wx: Sunrise/sunset photos Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:30:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 'Day list, Eventually, but too late for the competition, got some sun photos up from all around the place (NO cities). address is http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/billwebb/sunrise.htm a couple of them were up before. Also, at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/billwebb/strange.htm a couple of photos of a "change in light" in the sky - I have no idea what might have caused it. Explanations welcome ! Regards, Bill, Proserpine. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "MSC" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fairy Dell tornado Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:11:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Quick note from BoM Severe Weather (Tony Bannister) - re the Fairy Dell tornado -------------------------------------------- Jane, quick note on last Thursday. Two separate tornadoes that happened at about the same time, just after 5pm. The Rochester one was about 8km long, 50-100m wide, lasted on the ground about 10 minutes moving at 50km/h on a bearing of 280 degrees. Damage in the F1/low end F2 region (150-200km/h gusts). Kyabram about 4km long, lasted about 5minutes on the ground, all the other data similar. cheers -------------------------------------------- ............official thoughts to this time. Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence soon to be http://www.stormchasers.au.com --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Phil Smith" To: "Michael Thompson" , Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: "mini-tornado" and "Willy-willies" Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 07:13:41 +0800 Organization: Doctor Disk X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Actually the HK media don't need to learn from the Oz media how to really stuff up weather reporting: check out our Forum at http://www.weather.org.hk/discus/messages/1/1.html for a constant stream of complaints from our WXHK enthusiasts about the never-ending stream of media stuff-ups. Not so long ago it was reported that "the Strong Amber Thunderstorm Warning is Hoisted" which may not seem amusing until you realise that HKO "hoists" Typhoon Signals or the Strong Monsoon Signal, while it "issues" the Thunderstorm Warning or the Amber, Red or Black Rainstorm Warnings. So the above report had combined parts of no less than four different unrelated weather warnings/signals. It is a miracle if anyone could figure out what was hoisted/issued from the above phrase. But perhaps the best was when one report was apologising for a previous stuff-up and ended with the line "All inconvenience is thoroughly appreciated" At least the Oz media is not working from an English as a second language position. Phil <>< ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Thompson" To: ; "Phil Smith" Sent: Monday, 26 June 2000 16:55 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: "mini-tornado" and "Willy-willies" > Maybe the Hong Kong media can benefit from Australian insight and start > using the term mini typhoon. > > Could not resist. > > Remember folks don't get to passionate about the mini debate, enjoy it for > what it is, debate the issues never the person posting. > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carl Smith > To: Aussie Weather List ; Phil Smith > > Sent: Monday, 26 June 2000 3:55 > Subject: aus-wx: Fwd: "mini-tornado" and "Willy-willies" > > > > Hi All. > > > > I thought I would forward this email from my brother Phil in Hong Kong > > regarding the tornado posts - I have forwarded several of them to him. > > > > Regards, > > Carl. > > > > >From: "Phil Smith" > > >To: "Carl Smith" > > >Subject: "mini-tornado" and "Willy-willies" > > >Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:35:14 +0800 > > >Organization: Doctor Disk > > > > > > > > > >The arguments about "mini-tornado" are very interesting. > > >When I was a kid in the 50's tornadoes were almost universally known as > > >"willy-willies" the only trouble with that being that some less-informed > > >people referred to Dust Devils as "Willy-willies". Our grandpa however, > > >always used the term "tornado". > > >Tornadoes have always been common in Australia, but in the days of early > > >settlement, the settlers always asked the aboriginal people to advise > where > > >a town or farm could be built so that the tornadoes would miss it. We > > >always understood this to be the reason that so few people were killed by > > >them in Oz compared to the US. > > >A tornado that clears a few trees and pinches a few dozen hay bales does > not > > >make for tremendously exciting reading for the average bloke, so the > > >majority that occurred in Oz were never reported on any further than the > > >local pub. > > >There used to be an old aboriginal bloke out at Framlingham (South West > > >Victoria) when I was a kid that used to be brought out whenever anyone > was > > >subdividing a property to advise the surveyors on safe places to build > the > > >new houses. He made a few bob out of it and probably some thought he was > a > > >con artist, but he was always called out when needed back around the > start > > >of the fifties. I wish I could remember his name and a few more details. > > >It would make a good book/film. > > > > > >Phil > > ><>< > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:18:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Paul Subject: aus-wx: bill's weird sky To: weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. The weird sky is caused by a thunderstorm over the horizon.The storm is to the right of the picture.The top part of the storm is blocking the light from the setting sun from reaching the viewer's vision. I have seen this effect many times in my life. cya! stormtwist __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: neumann.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:39:08 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at neumann.maths.monash.edu.au To: Wx Aus Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunrise/sunset photos Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/billwebb/strange.htm > > a couple of photos of a "change in light" in the sky - I have no idea what > might have caused it. Explanations welcome ! > I'll have a stab at this one. I think all you are seeing here is just a shadow effect caused by the Earth, ie the darker section being the shadow. Since you're in Proserpine, you would see the sun rise in the southeast during summer. This would mean that the edge of Earth's shadow would be aligned southwest->northeast. Hence, when you look to the SW, you see the edge of the shadow. This shadow is only visible with the sun below the horizon, since it is opposite the sun in the sky. As a result, I'm guessing the Moon would've been a few days past full Moon since it is outside this shadow. If you want to see this effect for yourself, check out http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Earth THEN make the following alterations to the data beneath the map: Display : set to Map. Time: set to UTC and type in '2000/01/27 19:30:00' and then click update. The shadow of the earth should run through Queensland, oriented SW->NE. Click on OZ for a closeup. The visibility of this effect is dependent upon the particulate matter in the air and moisture. The more that is present, the more the light will be reflected from these particles, and hence brighten the lit portion of sky. This has the effect of increasing the contrast between the darker region and lighter region, and thus making the edge stand out. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ Department of Mathematics and Statistics Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:22:25 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Some links of interest Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Some people on the list may recall that we had an AMOS Weatherwatch meeting here when a person called Dr John J Lowke discussed his theories on ball lightning and also step leaders. Due to the overwhelming requests on this list and also ASWA members, I decided to approach him for permission to have the papers associated with his theories put on the internet if it wasn't there already. He has given me the consent to do so. Please respect his copyright on these articles and do not reproduce them please. I think you will find it interesting reading as his theories are quite well thought. There are many other theories on ball lightning but none have yet been accepted or proven to my knowledge. Don't get too entangled with the simple mathematics he uses. He was trying to make it simple anyway! Visit http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/index.html and go down to the two separate links A Theory of the Stepped Leader in Lightning by Dr John J Lowke A Theory of Ball Lightning as an Electric Discharge by Dr John J Lowke Please enjoy. I apologise for the size of each page but scanning was the most efficient way so as to not make mistakes and so on. Jimmy Deguara ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Jimmy Deguara from Schofields, Sydney President of Australian Severe Weather Association Inc. (ASWA) http://severeweather.asn.au e-mail: jdeguara at ihug.com.au homepage with Michael Bath note new URL http://australiasevereweather.com/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.109.239.226] From: "Paul Graham" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Aurora Alert Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 03:15:05 PDT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello weather entheusiasts...I thought people on this list may be interested in the following aurora alert issued this morning from IPS Radio and Space Services. It may indeed be a false alarm but it is worth keeping an eye out..Unfortunately, it's a littlbe bit out of date but keep your eyes out because we are only just past the peak of the solar max and there should be some good chances over the next few months of seeing one: SUBJ: IPS AURORA ALERT ISSUED AT 1519 UT on 26 Jun 2000 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES FROM THE AUSTRALIAN SPACE FORECAST CENTRE GEOMAGNETIC STORM IN PROGRESS. AURORA MAY BE OBSERVED DURING LOCAL NIGHT TIME HOURS IN GOOD OBSERVING CONDITIONS AT HIGH LATITUDE REGIONS. This alert is not subject to forecaster validation. It is automatically issued from autoscaled data which may produce a false alarm on rare occasions. IPS would appreciate any feedback from people observing an aurora giving details of location and time. Please email to asfc at ips.gov.au More information about IPS Aurora Alerts can be found on Web page www.ips.gov.au/mail-lists/aurora_alerts.html IPS Radio and Space Services | email: asfc at ips.gov.au PO Box 1386 | WWW: http://www.ips.gov.au/asfc Haymarket NSW 1240 AUSTRALIA | FTP: ftp://ftp.ips.gov.au/users/asfc/ tel: +61 2 9213 8010 | fax: +61 2 9213 8060 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bill Webb" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: bill's weird sky Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:56:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Mario and List, Major blunder on my part - photo is looking NORTH west at sunrise - has since been corrected on page. This does not negate that opinion though, Mario, thanks for responding. I will check my weather records for the period for storms around, and check in the future. Thanks for that. Maybe I should turn the date option ON on my camera ! Regards, Bill, Proserpine. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mario Paul To: weather Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 06:18 PM Subject: aus-wx: bill's weird sky > > Hi all. The weird sky is caused by a thunderstorm > over > the horizon.The storm is to the right of the > picture.The top part of the storm is blocking the > light from the setting sun from reaching the viewer's > vision. > I have seen this effect many times in my life. > cya! stormtwist +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:12:21 +1000 From: MSC - Jane ONeill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie-wx Subject: aus-wx: Vic aviation forecast Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sigh...it's winter, GST time, and we take to reading forecasts like this and thinking.....just, maybe......btw, what's happening in Adelaide tonight???? I've included a 'translation into English' for those of you who may not spend much of your spare time reading the aviation forecasts, but would like to understand them rather more before the 'season' starts. If you are interested in learning more about the language & abbreviations that are used have a look at the following site, very detailed, but very useful. Federal Meteorological Handbook No 1 http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/oso1/oso12/fmh1/fmh1toc.htm ----------------------------------------------- AREA30 08:25 UTC, 27/06/2000 AMEND AREA FORECAST 270900 TO 272300 AREAS 30/32 Interpretation: forecast for the areas covered by areas 30 & 32 (pretty much Victoria (30) & Bass Strait (32)) Valid: 7pm 27th June to 9am 28th June. Issued at 6.25pm 27/6/2000 AMD OVERVIEW: TROUGH FCST NEAR HAY/FLIKI AT 11Z, ALBURY/FLINDERS ISLAND AT 17Z, DELEGATE AT 23Z. FRONT FCST NEAR PORTLAND AT 16Z, HORSHAM/KING ISLAND AT 21Z. ISOL RA E OF TROUGH. ISOL TSRA WITH FRONT. Interpretation: Trough forecast to be located between Mildura to a point midway between Flinders & King Islands at 9pm, Albury to Flinders Is 3am, Delegate at 9am. Front following is forecast to be located near Portland 2am, located between Horsham & King Is 7am. Isolated thunderstorms with rain with front. ISOL CB 3500/25000 WITH FRONT. Interpretation: Isolated cumulonimbus base 3,500', tops to 25,000' with the front. OCNL CU TOPS 15000 WITH FRONT. Interpretation: Occasional cumulus tops to 15,000' with the front. BKN ACAS 10000/20000, SCT W OF FRONT. Interpretation: broken altocumulus / altostratus between 10,000' & 20,000', becoming scattered west of front. AMD WEATHER: TSRA, FG, RA, SHRA. Interpretation: Thunderstorms with rain, fog, rain, showers of rain. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill cadence at rubix.net.au Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence soon to be http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:37:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Paul Subject: aus-wx: correction To: weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com About bill's strange sky. I totally forgot about the full moon, so obviously the sun is not setting, but rising! So that shoots my theory down in flames. But I have seen this effect from storms over the horizon,only this time I don't know what the light source is. Maybe a large bonfire?!!!! hehe cya stormtwist __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:41:26 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: bill's weird sky Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Bill, I would advise against putting time stamps on photographs which is what I did before. I think the best way is to carry a little note book with the camera and note the time and place the photograph was taken and perhaps the direction if you feel up to it and know it. I also encourage others to do this as it can always come in handy when a feature may be discovered. It could be a tornadic storm you photographed only to find out later. This information is extremely important. Great photos by the way!!! Jimmy Deguara At 20:56 27/06/00 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Mario and List, > >Major blunder on my part - photo is looking NORTH west at sunrise - has >since been corrected on page. > >This does not negate that opinion though, Mario, thanks for responding. I >will check my weather records for the period for storms around, and check in >the future. Thanks for that. Maybe I should turn the date option ON on my >camera ! > >Regards, >Bill, Proserpine. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mario Paul >To: weather >Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 06:18 PM >Subject: aus-wx: bill's weird sky > > > > > > Hi all. The weird sky is caused by a thunderstorm > > over > > the horizon.The storm is to the right of the > > picture.The top part of the storm is blocking the > > light from the setting sun from reaching the viewer's > > vision. > > I have seen this effect many times in my life. > > cya! stormtwist > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Jimmy Deguara from Schofields, Sydney President of Australian Severe Weather Association Inc. (ASWA) http://severeweather.asn.au e-mail: jdeguara at ihug.com.au homepage with Michael Bath note new URL http://australiasevereweather.com/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:09:37 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: aus-wx: Baroclonic Leap! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well it looks as thought the baroclonic leaf is not going to deliver over Northland but then.. you may expect a 'mini-tornado or 2 " ... John Gaul Nz Thunderstorm Soc +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley at mail.cobweb.com.au Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:45:44 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic aviation forecast Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Sigh...it's winter, GST time, and we take to reading forecasts like this >and thinking.....just, maybe......btw, what's happening in Adelaide >tonight???? Rather woozy frontal band passing over as I type [9.45pm CST]. Still, there's some cold air action forecast for the morrow. Just wish we'd start getting some day frontal passages! >From a pretty sodden Adelaide _____________________________________________________________________________ Phil 'Paisley' Bagust - paisley at cobweb.com.au Paisley's Playpen at http://www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 "Nothing matters anymore...not even the fact that nothing matters" L. GROSSBERG _____________________________________________________________________________ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:27:43 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: bill's weird sky Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The photo is an interesting one Bill. First to note the photos were taken at a very similar time - perhaps within a few minutes as one is just zoomed in. This is why the the moon appears in one and not the other http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/billwebb/strange.htm It seems that there is a cumulonimbus off the coast casting a shadow right through to the NW since the sun rises to the SE. Jimmy Deguara At 20:56 27/06/00 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Mario and List, > >Major blunder on my part - photo is looking NORTH west at sunrise - has >since been corrected on page. > >This does not negate that opinion though, Mario, thanks for responding. I >will check my weather records for the period for storms around, and check in >the future. Thanks for that. Maybe I should turn the date option ON on my >camera ! > >Regards, >Bill, Proserpine. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mario Paul >To: weather >Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 06:18 PM >Subject: aus-wx: bill's weird sky > > > > > > Hi all. The weird sky is caused by a thunderstorm > > over > > the horizon.The storm is to the right of the > > picture.The top part of the storm is blocking the > > light from the setting sun from reaching the viewer's > > vision. > > I have seen this effect many times in my life. > > cya! stormtwist > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Jimmy Deguara from Schofields, Sydney President of Australian Severe Weather Association Inc. (ASWA) http://severeweather.asn.au e-mail: jdeguara at ihug.com.au homepage with Michael Bath note new URL http://australiasevereweather.com/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:58:46 +1000 From: David Carroll X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Bathurst - Rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI All,, Where else is getting very heavy rain like Bathurst is getting right now. Radar showing scattered around Bathurst,, It is bucketing down here. Dave +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:25:09 +0800 From: Mark Dwyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: a Fogged in Perth 50M visibility Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all a quick email at 21:10 WST about the fog here, it went from just forming on the drive to Mac'D's, to 50 M visibility in less than 30 mins .... so it formed very quick and this is in the less susuptable areas. My mate disco called over just before writing this email well he was here when i got back from Mac'D's he had to drive at less than 5 Km/H it was that thick and low already ( this in the less prone area's too ). Let alone what it is going to be like in the more prone area's... So it could make for an intresting morning :):) Fog Pictures here i come. MJ. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------