Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 10:44:00 -0400 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: aus-wx: Canberra Snow Pix To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id KAA27577 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Paul wrote: > Hi guys and gals > > Here is the first installment of my Canberra pix from the 28th of May These are just terrific pics!! Thanks for the post! Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "McDonald" To: Subject: aus-wx: hailstorm, snow,sleet chase Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 02:00:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey all,
 
Well what a huige adn eventful night.  We drove to Warburton with Donna Buang in mind but we encountered hail and sleet severa times between Surrey Hills and Warburton.  Snow was falling down to about 400m on the way up and we stopped at the Cement Creek turnoff (the road was closed) at an elevation of 500m.  Snow had been falling here for ages with about 10-12cm already and falling heavily.  We stayed here for a while, noting a massive number of trees and big branches down all the way up the mountain - must've been some hugely strong winds to do this much damage!!!  We had 2cm of snow fall on us in the hour we were there (not too bad for just 500m) and on the way down the mountain it was still snowing at about 300-350m.  We again encountered hail and sleet on the return trip and saw about 5 flashes of lighting but the phonecall from my mum and sister had me a little worried.  The talked of a massive hailstorm which woke them up with the noise.  Hail ranging from .25 - .75cm covered the ground and roads to a depth of 3cm with drifts of up to 10cm.  The temperature at my house was just 3C when I got home after some impossible driving in the hail.  My sister was up to greet me and she told me that she'd done her own snow chase up to St Helena (elevation about 100m above sea level).  They had hail and sleet and it was too heavy to drive in so they pulled over and all of a sudden it all stopped and it snowed for 5 mins (enough to make a snowball or two from the roof of the car) then the sleet/hail started again.  I'm pretty sure this hail will last all night (its 2am already).  I've taken some photos with mum's camera (with the flash) and I hope they turn out OK so you all can see this - its amazing.  Anyway - better go to bed considering i've got to go to work in a mere 4.5 hours....hehehe.
 
TTYL
 
Macca (MSC)
 
Just started hailing again!!!
 From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Snow ??? Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 03:30:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A crying baby at 3am has given me a chance to look at the radar and a visual. A band of rain I assume, as it is just a degree or two too warm has moved past Bowral in the last hour. I can see it north of me. Problem is that it has become rather mild, in fact it feels warmer at present than at any time in the last 2 days. I will take a look at Robertson from my place when it is light ( can see it from around the corner ), if I see snow I will E Mail the board. Michael Thompson http://thunder.simplenet.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:10:40 -0700 From: Lindsay X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow ??? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Monday Morning No crying baby but still woke at 3am, it was 2.5 at my place at 4am when it started raining/sleeting, now around one and we have slushy sleet. Lindsay Michael Thompson wrote: > > A crying baby at 3am has given me a chance to look at the radar and a > visual. A band of rain I assume, as it is just a degree or two too warm has > moved past Bowral in the last hour. I can see it north of me. > > Problem is that it has become rather mild, in fact it feels warmer at > present than at any time in the last 2 days. > > I will take a look at Robertson from my place when it is light ( can see it > from around the corner ), if I see snow I will E Mail the board. > > Michael Thompson > http://thunder.simplenet.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:38:04 -0700 From: Lindsay X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow ??? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blackheath 5am or thereabouts: Sorry people, last post should've said Tuesday morning! I'm falling out of my chair, I'm so tired, will get some sleep now. At least it has become colder again, I have 1 degree in my screen. Lindsay Pearce Lindsay wrote: > > Monday Morning > > No crying baby but still woke at 3am, it was 2.5 at my place at 4am when > it started raining/sleeting, now around one and we have slushy sleet. > > Lindsay > > Michael Thompson wrote: > > > > A crying baby at 3am has given me a chance to look at the radar and a > > visual. A band of rain I assume, as it is just a degree or two too warm has > > moved past Bowral in the last hour. I can see it north of me. > > > > Problem is that it has become rather mild, in fact it feels warmer at > > present than at any time in the last 2 days. > > > > I will take a look at Robertson from my place when it is light ( can see it > > from around the corner ), if I see snow I will E Mail the board. > > > > Michael Thompson > > http://thunder.simplenet.com > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 14:57:45 -0400 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: aus-wx: Re: Recent cold outbreak To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id OAA25487 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Paul in Darwin wrote: > This is an amazing event. > > If the air stays a gentle SE';er tonight , Darwin could be looking at > breaking its all-time May record for the coldest night - 14 is > forecast (ouuccch) and the record is 13.8 - if the record is broken, > surely this could be a 1 - 50yr , maybe 1 - 100yr event? Global warming! LOL I know, I know, this is weather and not climate! Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 06:39:35 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Snow Chase Again! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi I have the next 2 days off so I am about to head up the blue mountains, to Katoomba/Blackheath today for a snow chase. The only thing that is bothering me, is that there is a N/NW wind all over the Sydney Met area.. Strange given the latest Synoptic chart saying we should have SW winds.... Hmm I guess ill find out what will happen! Updates/info appreciated on 0407 069 693 VICS - Sounds like you had a great night! Macca, glad you got home to enjoy some of this cold weather buddy! Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.29.156.5] From: "T Middleton" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 07:14:24 EST Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I remember snow at Cranbourne about that same time!it didn't really settle much though. >From: "dann weatherhead" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? >Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:51:07 +1000 > >Hey Fellow Weatherians, > >Prompted by this cold outbreak and reading everybody's accounts of it, I >have remembered a cold outbreak or something like it in the Late eighties >between 1986-87 that occurred in Melbourne. I was born in Melbourne and >lived there for 9 years when moved to Sydney. I remember going to school >early in the morning getting into the car when it began to snow. I lived in >Mulgrave then, south east of Melbourne, about a kilometre away from >Waverley Park. I remember it snowing all day, coming home to snow thickly >covering everything. My father who lived in Melbourne all his life 'til we >moved here said he could only remember one other day when the snow fell and >stayed on ground. > >Anyway, I was wondering whether anyone had any accounts and figures of this >day. I am pretty sure it was '87, but it maybe could have been '86 > >Thanks. > > >Dann >================================ >Daniel Weatherhead >weatherhead at ozemail.com.au >Sydney Storm Chasers >http://www.sydneystormchasers.com >================================ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 07:47:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dann, It was in August 96 that Wollongong (Robertson) had a significant snowfall. I remember it well as during our lunch break (year 8 in high school) I was watching the clouds moving in from the SE along the Illawarra escarpment and I commented to my mates that they were snow clouds. They seriously refused to believe, but I persisted. It wasn't until the last class of that day, and after one of our class mates had run an errand, that he was very excited on his return by the news that you could see snow all through the Robertson area, and the trees were covered down another 100-200m from the escarpment in this area. Then they believed me. We headed up after school and had a large snowfight, etc around four hours after the falls, snow was still around 10cm thick on open ground (in the sun). Another friend packed snow onto the windscreen and front of car, and it lasted until after we returned to Oak Flats (elevation 10m). Anyway, that was a snowfall I remember very well. It certainly feels cold enough for a repeat in the wind down at Port Kembla this morning, I wish I had a thermometer for my push bike as it was again extremely cold riding to work at 6:00am today. Also, it had rained sometime earlier in the night at North Wollongong. And there was some low cloud around the Robertson area right on dawn, which certainly looked as if it could have held snow for that area. Currently there appears to be a little low cloud coming off the mountains which hasn't happened here since this outbreak. Cheers, snow freaks. Andrew Godsman > ---------- > From: T Middleton[SMTP:anvil_industries at hotmail.com] > Reply To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2000 10:14 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? > > I remember snow at Cranbourne about that same time!it didn't really settle > much though. > > > >From: "dann weatherhead" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: > >Subject: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? > >Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:51:07 +1000 > > > >Hey Fellow Weatherians, > > > >Prompted by this cold outbreak and reading everybody's accounts of it, I > >have remembered a cold outbreak or something like it in the Late eighties > >between 1986-87 that occurred in Melbourne. I was born in Melbourne and > >lived there for 9 years when moved to Sydney. I remember going to school > >early in the morning getting into the car when it began to snow. I lived in > >Mulgrave then, south east of Melbourne, about a kilometre away from > >Waverley Park. I remember it snowing all day, coming home to snow thickly > >covering everything. My father who lived in Melbourne all his life 'til we > >moved here said he could only remember one other day when the snow fell and > >stayed on ground. > > > >Anyway, I was wondering whether anyone had any accounts and figures of this > >day. I am pretty sure it was '87, but it maybe could have been '86 > > > >Thanks. > > > > > >Dann > >================================ > >Daniel Weatherhead > >weatherhead at ozemail.com.au > >Sydney Storm Chasers > >http://www.sydneystormchasers.com > >================================ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify postmaster at bhp.com.au. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "MSC" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne reports by SMS Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:05:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, ....and it doesn't stop there......Andrew McDonald sent me an SMS message (aah, the joys of technology!!! ) at 00:08 this morning (for those of you who are uninitiated, that's 8 minutes after midnight!!) telling me that there was 4" of snow at the Mt Donna Buang turnoff in the Yarra Valley up at Warburton.(see his email) .....and then again at 07:36 this morning telling me that hail is still on the ground in the northern suburbs of Melbourne. This has turned out to be some cold outbreak!!! The phone-to-phone SMS service has proved to be a boon as demonstrated by Anthony & Matt this weekend with the soundings, warnings and forecasts they were sending out to all of us chasing - there may not be enough signal to make or receive phone calls, but the SMS messages seem to get through, which is great when you're in marginal reception areas. PS: Andrew's latest message is for Melbournites to keep their eyes and ears open for possible damage reports from last night & this morning. I drove through a 20-40mm/hr on the way to work this morning with water over the road & there was an enormous amount of leaf litter on the roads on Mount Dandenong last night - consistent with *very* heavy rain during the afternoon . Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: aus-wx: Canberra at 8.00am Tuesday Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:26:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Currently 2.3 degrees at my house in Higgins. Overcast with some light showers of rain and the very slight hint of sleet. Local BoM are saying there is still the possibity of snow Canberra today. I hope that happens although we may be 1 or 2 degrees too warm.
 
The surrounding hills are very white and there is obviously a very heavy snow cover in the Brindabellas.
 
Patrick
 From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: No snow at Robertson...but Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:18:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com No Snow visible at Robertson, but today is a totally new ball game. The wind has backed to SW, there is convection back in the clouds, and to the SE over the ocean the lovely sight of Cb's. Hail is the first thought that comes to mind, also with these sorts of clouds you can get flurries down to ground level at higher temps ( 2-3C ), then was the case with the low featureless of Sunday. I cannot chase too far from home as the car is booked by the baby for most of the day, in fact the only windows I have are early morning / late afternoon. Michael Thompson http://thunder.simplenet.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley at mail.cobweb.com.au Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:21:41 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Hey Fellow Weatherians, Prompted by this cold outbreak and reading >everybody's accounts of it, I have remembered a cold outbreak or something >like it in the Late eighties between 1986-87 that occurred in Melbourne. >I was born in Melbourne and lived there for 9 years when moved to Sydney. >I remember going to school early in the morning getting into the car when >it began to snow. I lived in Mulgrave then, south east of Melbourne, >about a kilometre away from Waverley Park. I remember it snowing all day, >coming home to snow thickly covering everything. My father who lived in >Melbourne all his life 'til we moved here said he could only remember one >other day when the snow fell and stayed on ground. Anyway, I was >wondering whether anyone had any accounts and figures of this day. I am >pretty sure it was '87, but it maybe could have been '86 Thanks. >Dann ================================ >Daniel Weatherhead >weatherhead at ozemail.com.au >Sydney Storm Chasers >http://www.sydneystormchasers.com >================================ Dan, you might be thinking about mid July '86. I remember this day in Adelaide well. The temp didn't get above 8 the whole day, and there was plenty of snow in the Mt Lofty ranges. It was quite alarming on the bus home from work, right under a cold Cb, to see the digital thermometer on a building register just 2 degrees. Phil 'Paisley' Bagust paisley at cobweb.com.au http://www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:49:11 +1000 From: David Carroll X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Bathurst update Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI Its very wet here, sun actually shining through all the cloud. Mitchell Hwy to Orange just opened, must have closed over night. Alot of cloud towards Oberon area. Matt smith just sent SMS and said he is at Mt VIC, he advised can see snow and showers near Oberon heading his way.. Lets hope for more snow.. Dave +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Jones To: "Aussie Weather (E-mail)" Subject: aus-wx: snow levels. Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 09:13:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >BTW, how low has the snow really fallen so far in NSW and Victoria? Ben, where I was on the weekend (east central Victoria), it was snowing down to below 200m elevation, and settling to about the 250m level. I have quite regularly seen snow fall to similar elevations, but what was unusual was the depths which according to locals were the greatest since the 50s! Trees were down everywhere, and many roads are still cut. Regards, David. Dr David Jones Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9898 4425 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David_Cornford at ansett.com.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: ANSETT To: aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 09:24:46 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Re: aussie-weather-digest V1 #598 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi I live in Balwyn, inner east Melbourne. Hail still on the ground this morning in the garden in small drifts, after a huge dumping after midnight of mostly 1-3 mm diameter. Earlier in the evening around 9pm repeated passing hail showers, some larger pellets. I haven't seen such repeated passing hail showers before. Very heavy rain (how are the catchment areas faring?) as well. Re the thread about 1986 outbreak, I lived in Canberra then and I clearly remember a day in July 1986 snow at lake level through the city, very heavy with 0 celcius at midday. I also recall October 1987 in Canberra with the same outcome. Can someone explain thunderstorms in very cold air for me? I have at lot of interest from people at work in this one. Best regards, DVC? _____________________________________________________________________ CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify Ansett Australia immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Ansett Australia. _____________________________________________________________________ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.84.14.139] From: "Paul Graham" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Snow to low levels for SE NSW? Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 17:08:34 PDT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, I notice on the 12z 29/05 run of NGP, the 850mb freezing line extends all the way to northern NSW at 0z (10am) today (30th) while last night (12z 29th) it extended only to S NSW. The EC model indicates more of an onshore flow for south-east NSW with this next cold surge around 12z today (around 10pm) while NGP has the flow more or less parallel with indications of high precip just off-shore. It'll be interesting to see just how low snow might fall tonight along the eastern side of the ranges - if there is enough moisture for precipitation. I am thinking of the ranges just behind Bateman's Bay as having a good potential if the wind becomes a little bit more onshore.. - Paul G. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: aus-wx: Victorian Rainfall Figures Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 10:26:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, Some lumpy totals in VIC in the 24 hours to 9am this morning - highest totals were Viewbank AWS with 47mm, Kinglake 37mm and Hunters Hill AWS with 35mm .. and a whole stack of 10-30mm's - this is on top of the moderate to heavy falls of up to 62mm in the 24 hours to 9am yesterday.. There are a number of 7 day totals over 100mm (although you'd think most of the rain would have fallen in the last 2-3 days), and dozens in excess of 50mm.. sounds like it's very wet down there!! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dane Newman" To: Subject: aus-wx: snow.barratt.com.au Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 10:34:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good Snow pics link taken on Sunday in the Marysville- Lake Mountain area. http://snow.barratt.com.au/01.html Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\snow.barratt.com.au.url" From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Australian max for May To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 10:51:03 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > A new Australian record for May was set yesterday for the lowest > daily maximum temperature when Crackenback topped out at -6.0. > > This broke the previous record of -5.0 set at Hotham Heights on > 24 May, 1968. Mount Hotham (-5.7) and Falls Creek (-5.2) also broke > the previous record. > While it doesn't affect the new record, I've just discovered (on a check of the 1977 event) that I'd got the old record wrong! (This happened because I'd compiled the lists by a search of the 'monthly summary' table on our database, and Perisher didn't appear in that table for May 1977 because it had too many missing observations). The previous record was actually -5.5 at Perisher on May 31, 1977. Note also that in the 1977 event none of the four stations which normally have very low maxima in such events (Mount Hotham, Mount Buller, Falls Creek, and Crackenback) reported. It seems reasonable to presume, given the Perisher observation, that Crackenback (at least) would have had a maximum of around -7 or -8 on May 31, 1977, which would have approached the Australian record for any month (-6.9 at Crackenback on 9 July, 1978). May 31, 1977 saw a maximum of -4.5 at Cabramurra (compared with -3.0 in this event), which is the second-lowest in their 38-year record (after -4.8 on July 25, 1986, discussed elsewhere in this group). Cabramurra is the ONLY alpine site with a reasonably complete long-term record; all the other sites have substantial amounts of missing data, especially in summer. It is only since the installation of AWSs that we have had any reasonably complete summer observations from any of the alpine resorts (for the purposes of this, 'summer' means anything outside the ski season), which is why so many of the record low maxima for NSW and Victoria for months other than June-August have been set in the last few years. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:02:36 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > I remember snow at Cranbourne about that same time!it didn't really settle > much though. > > > >From: "dann weatherhead" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: > >Subject: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? > >Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:51:07 +1000 > > > >Hey Fellow Weatherians, > > > >Prompted by this cold outbreak and reading everybody's accounts of it, I > >have remembered a cold outbreak or something like it in the Late eighties > >between 1986-87 that occurred in Melbourne. I was born in Melbourne and > >lived there for 9 years when moved to Sydney. I remember going to school > >early in the morning getting into the car when it began to snow. I lived in > >Mulgrave then, south east of Melbourne, about a kilometre away from > >Waverley Park. I remember it snowing all day, coming home to snow thickly > >covering everything. My father who lived in Melbourne all his life 'til we > >moved here said he could only remember one other day when the snow fell and > >stayed on ground. > > > >Anyway, I was wondering whether anyone had any accounts and figures of this > >day. I am pretty sure it was '87, but it maybe could have been '86 > > > >Thanks. > > This will be the event of July 25, 1986, which was probably the most significant low-level snowfall in southern Victoria and Tasmania in the last 20 years. There was a substantial snowfall in Hobart, as well as in Melbourne suburbs (but not the CBD) and in parts of Canberra. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian Rainfall Figures To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:00:35 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hi everyone, > > Some lumpy totals in VIC in the 24 hours to 9am this morning - highest > totals were Viewbank AWS with 47mm, Kinglake 37mm and Hunters Hill AWS with > 35mm .. and a whole stack of 10-30mm's - this is on top of the moderate to > heavy falls of up to 62mm in the 24 hours to 9am yesterday.. In Melbourne at least, the heaviest rain today seems to have been concentrated in areas that largely missed out earlier, so the cumulative totals in the suburbs may not be as high as one might expect. It was pretty chaotic out our way this morning (I live in Heidelberg, and Viewbank is the nearest gauge to us, about 5km away). I was faced with three pretty unappealing options - the train (where only one train in three was running because of fallen trees further up the line and signalling problems), the car (with the prospect of traffic which was bad even by usual standards), or the bike (with the prospect of getting drenched). I chose the last of these (using the radar to try to pick the best window of opportunity), but didn't quite make it before getting unloaded upon from a great height in the last 5 minutes. I'm still drying out... No snow at Heidelberg that I've seen, but there are numerous reports on ski.com.au from places like Bulleen and St. Helena, which are near us at elevations of 100-150 metres (we're at about 60). > There are a number of 7 day totals over 100mm (although you'd think most of > the rain would have fallen in the last 2-3 days), and dozens in excess of > 50mm.. sounds like it's very wet down there!! > The alpine regions and the eastern ranges will be getting a lot of moisture (most of it in the form of snow). This is very good news for Melbourne's water supply as the snowpack in the upper catchments should give streamflow a nice boost as it melts (whether that ends up being next week or in September). I imagine a lot of the 'rainfalls' on high ground are underestimates because so much has fallen as snow and the automatic stations don't always handle it well. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.84.9.212] From: "Paul Graham" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 18:32:46 PDT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, I seem to remember what seemed like snow in Sydney at the time..Where I was living in Lindfield, at the time, the temperature was about 6c, I think, and a large Cu cell moved over producing what to me looked like snow. It was reported on the evening snow as news. However, I think accoding to Don White, it was most likely soft hail because 6c is too warm for snow. - Paul G. >From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 07:47:35 +1000 > >Dann, >It was in August 96 that Wollongong (Robertson) had a significant snowfall. >I remember it well as during our lunch break (year 8 in high school) I was >watching the clouds moving in from the SE along the Illawarra escarpment >and I commented to my mates that they were snow clouds. They seriously >refused to believe, but I persisted. It wasn't until the last class of that >day, and after one of our class mates had run an errand, that he was very >excited on his return by the news that you could see snow all through the >Robertson area, and the trees were covered down another 100-200m from the >escarpment in this area. Then they believed me. > >We headed up after school and had a large snowfight, etc around four hours >after the falls, snow was still around 10cm thick on open ground (in the >sun). Another friend packed snow onto the windscreen and front of car, and >it lasted until after we returned to Oak Flats (elevation 10m). Anyway, >that was a snowfall I remember very well. > >It certainly feels cold enough for a repeat in the wind down at Port Kembla >this morning, I wish I had a thermometer for my push bike as it was again >extremely cold riding to work at 6:00am today. Also, it had rained sometime >earlier in the night at North Wollongong. And there was some low cloud >around the Robertson area right on dawn, which certainly looked as if it >could have held snow for that area. Currently there appears to be a little >low cloud coming off the mountains which hasn't happened here since this >outbreak. > >Cheers, snow freaks. >Andrew Godsman > > > ---------- > > From: T Middleton[SMTP:anvil_industries at hotmail.com] > > Reply To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2000 10:14 > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? > > > > I remember snow at Cranbourne about that same time!it didn't really >settle > > much though. > > > > > > >From: "dann weatherhead" > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > >To: > > >Subject: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? > > >Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:51:07 +1000 > > > > > >Hey Fellow Weatherians, > > > > > >Prompted by this cold outbreak and reading everybody's accounts of it, >I > > >have remembered a cold outbreak or something like it in the Late >eighties > > >between 1986-87 that occurred in Melbourne. I was born in Melbourne and > > >lived there for 9 years when moved to Sydney. I remember going to >school > > >early in the morning getting into the car when it began to snow. I >lived in > > >Mulgrave then, south east of Melbourne, about a kilometre away from > > >Waverley Park. I remember it snowing all day, coming home to snow >thickly > > >covering everything. My father who lived in Melbourne all his life 'til >we > > >moved here said he could only remember one other day when the snow fell >and > > >stayed on ground. > > > > > >Anyway, I was wondering whether anyone had any accounts and figures of >this > > >day. I am pretty sure it was '87, but it maybe could have been '86 > > > > > >Thanks. > > > > > > > > >Dann > > >================================ > > >Daniel Weatherhead > > >weatherhead at ozemail.com.au > > >Sydney Storm Chasers > > >http://www.sydneystormchasers.com > > >================================ > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > >EOM > >NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the >addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If >you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified >that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. >If you have received this message in error please notify >postmaster at bhp.com.au. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 05:11:24 -0700 From: Lindsay X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow to low levels for SE NSW? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 12:15pm mor3 snow/sleet coming in as I speak. Hi all, My partner works at the Conservatorium/Grammar school at Wentworth Falls, and, as you know, we live at Blackheath. Can any folk on the list give me an idea of snow potential around the blue Mountains this arvo and tonight (When she is working)? We have a lot of students ringing the school wondering if they should come through and we are also wondering if we will get snowed out of Blackheath. Obviously its our call and we are just looking for as much info as we can to make an informed decision. The roads can get seriously nasty in this area as it is so steep. Your help is much appreciated, our number is 02 4787 5214, and if any one could ring or post to the list before 1:45pm it would be greatly appreciated. Lindsay Pearce Paul Graham wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I notice on the 12z 29/05 run of NGP, the 850mb freezing line > extends all the way to northern NSW at 0z (10am) today (30th) while last > night (12z 29th) it extended only to S NSW. > The EC model indicates more of an onshore flow for south-east NSW with this > next cold surge around 12z today (around 10pm) while NGP has the flow more > or less parallel with indications of high precip just off-shore. > It'll be interesting to see just how low snow might fall tonight along the > eastern side of the ranges - if there is enough moisture for precipitation. > I am thinking of the ranges just behind Bateman's Bay as having a good > potential if the wind becomes a little bit more onshore.. > - Paul G. > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 12:42:50 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List Subject: aus-wx: New Brisbane Low Max Record for May? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Going through last night's min temperatures, I saw that the Brisbane AP had 4C!!! According to the BoM page, 4.7C is the previous lowest min in May for the Brisbane AP. Any info Blair? :) I recorded 5.6C at my house, which is the lowest temperature I've had in two years. The grass temp at the AP was -1C!!! Amberly recorded -1C as a min temp. Interstingly, the new Brisbane site was 8C - I would have thought it'd have been even cooler than the Brisbane AP site, but apparently not. -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at ford.ace-net.com.au Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 13:09:25 +1000 To: Aussie Weather List From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow in Terang, Vic? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. Been enjoying the snow / cold reports from sunny SE Queensland, where it is nice if you can find a place out of the freezing cold SW wind to sit in the sun! As mentioned earlier, I have been forwarding many of these posts to my brother in Hong Kong, and have pasted a reply from him below. Regards, Carl. >From: "Phil Smith" >To: "Carl Smith" >Cc: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow in Terang, Vic? >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 06:39:04 +0800 >Organization: Doctor Disk > >Thanks for the update. I think it must have been the 1951 snap I remember, >although it means that all my life I have been remembering the wrong year >for moving from one house to another! I have always thought we moved from > Shadforth Street to Swanston Street in Terang in 1950, but >in May, >June, July '49 I would have been short of my third birthday. >However, Mike was born in 1950, and as far as I can remember there were only >two kids in the family and no baby when we built the snowman, so perhaps I >do have a clear memory from '49. >I suppose the only way to find out for sure is to go through back issues of >the Terang Express and I don't expect to ever get back to Terang. >Last time I visited Australia was for Christmas 1991, and no plans now, so I >might never even get back to Oz. > >Here we have just had the first Very Hot Weather warning hoisted for this >summer and it is currently 28C at 06:00 with a forecast maximum of 33C. > >It's been great to read all the reports of the cold from down there and >remember some of the crazy snow chases I did years ago. >I once got my motorbike and sidecar to the top of Mt St Quinea when the road >was closed at the base. >Another time I was the first vehicle to arrive at Hotham Heights for a week >when the snow ploughs at both Mother Johnstons and Mt Saint Bernard were >broken down - I did it by almost completely deflating all three tyres and >riding on top of the snow. You should have seen the amazed looks on the >faces of all the skiers. > >As you can see, I was mad! > >Phil ><>< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia. Email: carls at ace-net.com.au Internet: http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/index.htm Current Cyclone information: http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/current.htm Cyclone Tracking Maps: http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm or: http://cyclones.50megs.com/maps/TCMaps.htm Tropical Cyclone Archives: http://cyclones.50megs.com/ Please note the new location of all archive type material and update your bookmarks and website links. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.84.9.91] From: "Paul Graham" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Cold and Windy in Sydney... Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 20:11:21 PDT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, Looks like another cold surge is moving through - it's become very windy here in Sydney and is now completely overcast. I notice a line of thunderstorms off the coast on the satellite pic's. - Paul G. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow to low levels for SE NSW? Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 03:36:22 GMT X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id XAA26357 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Tue, 30 May 2000 05:11:24 -0700, Lindsay wrote: >Can any folk on the list give me an idea of snow potential around the >blue Mountains this arvo and tonight (When she is working)? We have a >lot of students ringing the school wondering if they should come through >and we are also wondering if we will get snowed out of Blackheath. > Plenty cold enough Lindsay but no precipitation likely, apart possibly from the odd flurry. The winds are staying doggedly westerly, and, although the low off the south coast is producing good rain on the radar offshore, it's unlikely to change enough in the next 6 to 12 hours to affect the Blue Mountains. Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 15:10:09 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Back Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Back from up the mountians, nice drive, and a few sleet showers but that was it, it was obvious the snow showers were staying well to the south so i came home, I could see snow showers around oberon throughout the morning. Knowing my luck it will dump down in an hour :P Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 01:15:59 -0400 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: aus-wx: Re: aussie-weather-digest V1 #598 To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id BAA06654 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Can someone explain thunderstorms in very cold air for me? I have at lot of > interest from people at work in this one. > > Best regards, > DVC? In winter type precip most of the precip is caused by "slant wise flow". The air flow through the large scale system flows mostly horizontally but with a gradual uplift. The flow is said to follow "isentropic" surfaces or surfaces of potential temperature. Thus, in these types of storms tstms don't often occur. However, under certain conditions warm, moist air can override the cold air. Then there develops "elevated" instability or warm buoyant air above the colder air nearer the surface. This air may then find that it is so unstable that it rises and forms convective (showers or thunder) storms. Much of what we might call "hail" that is 1 to 3 mm across is most likely frozen rain drops, called sleet or ice pellets. Even if there is thunder and these are little balls of ice, they can also be oblate spheroids, then this is sleet and not hail. Often periods of sleet can be showery or can persist for periods of an hour or more with various intensity. This can result in accumulations of the sleet on the ground. But when thunder is occurring and the balls of ice may be ~ 7 mm or larger, then that is probably hail. But during winter weather, there is often insufficient water vapor and the related instability to cause updrafts that are able to actually grow hail. For this reason, hail is extremely rare with winter storms. Thunderstorms themselves are rare in winter weather. I mentioned this in an earlier post. But if and when they occur, they can bring heavy rain and very heavy snow. With the warm ocean nearby and flow off the ocean, then sometime sufficient lift can create sufficiently strong updrafts for a time for thunderstorms or even hail with them. However, most of the precipitation is caused by an upper level or mid level disturbance that creates "warm advection" and "positive vorticity advection". Both these processes create upward motion of the air and cause precipitation. Without these upper air disturbances, only "oragraphic lift" by mountains can cause significant precip but that is on the mountain. Otherwise, most precip, if any will be very light. But the lift on the mountain can occasionally cause tstms. Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.8.232.4] From: "Patrick Tobin" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Interesting development in SE NSW Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:15:32 PDT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Canberra had a warm, sunny day today with a max of 10 - not quite matching the expectations built up yesterday. We got stuck in the shelter of the Brindabellas and Snowy Mtns with the stream coming from the SSW. Still Sunday was fun. Have noticed a thickening cloud band moving in from the south over the last hour or so (ie from around 3pm Tues). This shows up well on the last couple of satellite images: 0501z and 0423z from NPMOC. The REALLY interesting bit is Merimbula's temperature of 8 and 0.4 precipitation in the last 10 min (at 0600z). This could prove interesting along the eastern side of the ranges as this moves north this evening/night. Patrick ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 17:06:47 -0700 From: Lindsay X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow to low levels for SE NSW? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Laurier, The last thing we wanted tonight was to be stranded. Lindsay Pearce Laurier Williams wrote: > > On Tue, 30 May 2000 05:11:24 -0700, Lindsay > wrote: > > >Can any folk on the list give me an idea of snow potential around the > >blue Mountains this arvo and tonight (When she is working)? We have a > >lot of students ringing the school wondering if they should come through > >and we are also wondering if we will get snowed out of Blackheath. > > > Plenty cold enough Lindsay but no precipitation likely, apart possibly > from the odd flurry. The winds are staying doggedly westerly, and, > although the low off the south coast is producing good rain on the > radar offshore, it's unlikely to change enough in the next 6 to 12 > hours to affect the Blue Mountains. > > Laurier > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Karratha Weather" To: Subject: aus-wx: WA Severe Thunderstorm Advice Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 15:33:32 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
 
PRIORITY
FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
 
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Issued at 2:55 pm WST on Tuesday, 30 May 2000
 
People in the area southwest of a line Jurien Bay to Albany, including the Perth
metropolitan area, Mandurah and Bunbury, are advised that there is a risk of
severe thunderstorms overnight and early Wednesday morning.
 
Storms may be accompanied by hail, flash flooding and strong winds that could
result in damage to property.
 
The State Emergency Service advises that people should keep a lookout for
thunderstorms and if storms approach secure loose items, move vehicles under
cover, then stay indoors until the storms have passed. Driving conditions may be
hazardous.
 
This Thunderstorm Advice will be updated at 9:00pm.
 From: "Lyle Pakula" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hail deluge at Clayton Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 17:40:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert, Was in the Eng labs at the time - hail continued on and off right through to 12:30, then I left. Driving down North road, there was 2-3cm deep hail, localised in the Murrunbenna area. One car slid off into the nature strip of a house! Quit wild.... Cheers, Lyle. - - ---==( lyle_pakula at hotmail.com )==--- - - . / \ . /~~~\/ \ " No Friends On A Powder Day " / \ \ / \ \ ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Goler To: Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 9:37 PM Subject: aus-wx: Hail deluge at Clayton > > Hi all > > Just thought I'd mention that at around 21:25 there was a rather large > deluge of hail pellets of about 1-2mm in diameter here at Monash Uni at > Clayton. I went outside and at least 60% of the ground was covered with > the pellets after the 1-2 minute duration. This was accompanied by heavy > rain, at least greater than 20mm/hr and now some 5 minutes later all is > quiet. > > And for Lindsay, check out my website: > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/weather.html > which, if you scroll down the main window, you'll find various links > to satellite images which I took from other websites. I find it's > convenient for me, but I'm sure if you look through the links I've > provided, you may/will find better sites. > > Ooops, looks like some more hail and heavy rain now. > > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > Department of Mathematics and Statistics > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > -- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.8.232.5] From: "Patrick Tobin" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: SE NSW snowfalls Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 01:15:43 PDT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Have just heard that the Snowy Mtns Hwy over Brown Mtn has been closed due to snow. Also the road south from Nimmitabel to Bombala is also about to be closed (6pm Tues). The media reported police as saying heavy snow was falling and was showing no signs of easing. It looks like this pool of cold air is moving north along the coast and eastern escarpment - the temp is down to 10 at Moruya with rain falling. The night should be interesting.. perhaps Robertson might get something decent later on. I also expect Braidwood might do well out of this - so I would not be surprised to hear that the road between Bateman's Bay and Braidwood over Clyde Mountain also closes later tonight. In Canberra we are back to 4 so there is the slight chance of a few more flakes before morning - I don't expect that anything significant is likely here. This outbreak has some life in it yet... Patrick ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 07:59:37 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Paul... That change on 25 July 1986 swept through Sydnbey between 3 & 4 pm. Soft hail showers along the North Shore but NOT snow. (Ice pellets the size of frozen rain droplets that you couyld crush between forefinger and thumb). Sydney's temp at 3 pm was 12, falling to 7 aty 4 pm - equal lowest afternoon temp in Sydney this century with Sydney's 4 pm temperature on 21 August 1962 when they skiied in Bowral. (Lowest 11 am temp of 5 was recorded on 22 July 1965.) Liverpool was 6 at 3pm (the change had passed there by 3). Extremely low 3pm temps in NSW and Vic. Oberon, Orange, Bombala and Bowral all zero, Mt Victoria (which was reporting then) was -1 and Thredob -10 at 3pm !! Canberra was 5 with a DP of -13. less than 2 weeks later Sydney had 327 mm in 24 hours. Don White Paul Graham wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I seem to remember what seemed like snow in Sydney at the > time..Where I was living in Lindfield, at the time, the temperature was > about 6c, I think, and a large Cu cell moved over producing what to me > looked like snow. It was reported on the evening snow as news. However, I > think accoding to Don White, it was most likely soft hail because 6c is too > warm for snow. > - Paul G. > > >From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" > >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? > >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 07:47:35 +1000 > > > >Dann, > >It was in August 96 that Wollongong (Robertson) had a significant snowfall. > >I remember it well as during our lunch break (year 8 in high school) I was > >watching the clouds moving in from the SE along the Illawarra escarpment > >and I commented to my mates that they were snow clouds. They seriously > >refused to believe, but I persisted. It wasn't until the last class of that > >day, and after one of our class mates had run an errand, that he was very > >excited on his return by the news that you could see snow all through the > >Robertson area, and the trees were covered down another 100-200m from the > >escarpment in this area. Then they believed me. > > > >We headed up after school and had a large snowfight, etc around four hours > >after the falls, snow was still around 10cm thick on open ground (in the > >sun). Another friend packed snow onto the windscreen and front of car, and > >it lasted until after we returned to Oak Flats (elevation 10m). Anyway, > >that was a snowfall I remember very well. > > > >It certainly feels cold enough for a repeat in the wind down at Port Kembla > >this morning, I wish I had a thermometer for my push bike as it was again > >extremely cold riding to work at 6:00am today. Also, it had rained sometime > >earlier in the night at North Wollongong. And there was some low cloud > >around the Robertson area right on dawn, which certainly looked as if it > >could have held snow for that area. Currently there appears to be a little > >low cloud coming off the mountains which hasn't happened here since this > >outbreak. > > > >Cheers, snow freaks. > >Andrew Godsman > > > > > ---------- > > > From: T Middleton[SMTP:anvil_industries at hotmail.com] > > > Reply To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2000 10:14 > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? > > > > > > I remember snow at Cranbourne about that same time!it didn't really > >settle > > > much though. > > > > > > > > > >From: "dann weatherhead" > > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > >To: > > > >Subject: aus-wx: Cold Outbreak in the Late eighties? > > > >Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:51:07 +1000 > > > > > > > >Hey Fellow Weatherians, > > > > > > > >Prompted by this cold outbreak and reading everybody's accounts of it, > >I > > > >have remembered a cold outbreak or something like it in the Late > >eighties > > > >between 1986-87 that occurred in Melbourne. I was born in Melbourne and > > > >lived there for 9 years when moved to Sydney. I remember going to > >school > > > >early in the morning getting into the car when it began to snow. I > >lived in > > > >Mulgrave then, south east of Melbourne, about a kilometre away from > > > >Waverley Park. I remember it snowing all day, coming home to snow > >thickly > > > >covering everything. My father who lived in Melbourne all his life 'til > >we > > > >moved here said he could only remember one other day when the snow fell > >and > > > >stayed on ground. > > > > > > > >Anyway, I was wondering whether anyone had any accounts and figures of > >this > > > >day. I am pretty sure it was '87, but it maybe could have been '86 > > > > > > > >Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > >Dann > > > >================================ > > > >Daniel Weatherhead > > > >weatherhead at ozemail.com.au > > > >Sydney Storm Chasers > > > >http://www.sydneystormchasers.com > > > >================================ > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > >EOM > > > >NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the > >addressee named above. 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If > >you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified > >that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. > >If you have received this message in error please notify > >postmaster at bhp.com.au. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: aus-wx: Sleet/Snow in QLD? Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 19:16:01 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, I was just wondering what the snow forecasters on the list think the chances are of some snow or sleet on the NSW/QLD border ranges overnight tonight? I spoke to a BOM forecaster, and he seems to think there is a reasonably good chance.. but even he said himself "QLD forecasters are not used to forecasting SNOW".. I'd realy like to take a drive out to Stanthorpe late tonight/early tomorrow morning - but as usual the models seem to have weakened the cold pool somewhat, and i'm just not sure if the 5-6 hours travel time there and back is worth it or not.. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "McDonald" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian Rainfall Figures Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 19:34:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey everyone, I think the Viewbank recording would've been due to that big hailstorm in the area last night. There was about 1-2cm deep hail at the Yallambie Rd and Lower Plenty Rd intersection and some moderate flash flooding which is in the vicinity of the Viewbank AWS.....We got about 70mm all up in the 24hrs to 9am and a further 10mm today. There was about 55mm in the guage when I got home this morning from my snow chase at 2am (this includes the BIG hailstorm) and then we got a further 15mm (and 3 other hail showers between 2:30am and 6:30am) to 9am. As Blair has already said there were significant traffic disruptions and rail disruptions too. The main signal controller at Heidelberg Station was struck by lightning last night causing lengthy delays. Flooding at the Rosanna railway crossing forced police to close the boom gates with 3-4 inches of water flowing across the crossing. I think this area may've been one of the hardest hit by this final blast of cold air. After finally getting to the city by train this morning (1hr 35 mins from a normal journey of 35mins) I got off at Melbourne Central and was caught in a deluge with rainfall rates approaching 100mm/h for short bursts with winds easily gusting to 75-80km/h and some small hail too. It was useless having an umbrella as they all turned inside out and the rain was virtually horizontal anyway. Macca ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Quinn To: Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:26 AM Subject: aus-wx: Victorian Rainfall Figures > Hi everyone, > > Some lumpy totals in VIC in the 24 hours to 9am this morning - highest > totals were Viewbank AWS with 47mm, Kinglake 37mm and Hunters Hill AWS with > 35mm .. and a whole stack of 10-30mm's - this is on top of the moderate to > heavy falls of up to 62mm in the 24 hours to 9am yesterday.. > > There are a number of 7 day totals over 100mm (although you'd think most of > the rain would have fallen in the last 2-3 days), and dozens in excess of > 50mm.. sounds like it's very wet down there!! > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 19:31:26 +1000 From: Keith Barnett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temperatures plummet Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes Matt, they were the ones..there were 2 piles actually, one probably just east of Camden and another further to the west or northwest (I didn't have a fully clear view due to trees in neighbouring yards). I wondered whether their short duration was due to the effect of surface heating being minimised by an advancing sheet of cirrostratus-altostratus to their west.This sheet of high stuff was starting to obscure the sun over the mountains at the time. Perhaps someone knows whether heating is a factor in these formations or is it just the air being lifted as it goes over the mountains? I would suspect the clouds would be more pronounced in sunny weather. Matthew Smith wrote: > > I guess your reffering to the lenticular type clouds? Me and James Harris saw them > around 2pm comming down through penrith.. quiet amazing!! > Matt Smith > > Keith Barnett wrote: > > > Speaking of altocumulus, I guess most Sydney people noticed the pile of > > plate clouds Sunday afternoon? They would have been over Camden or > > thereabouts? They didn't last long but I haven't seen them stacked like > > that for yonks.Must have been 10000 feet high (ie from their base, not > > above sea level). > > > > Michael Thompson wrote: > > > > > > You would find it almost impossible to break a cold temperature record in > > > Sydney with even 1 hour of sunshine in the middle of the day, let alone > > > several. Would have been interesting if a altostratus lenticular hung over > > > Sydney all day, I though one was developing early this morning. You would > > > find that the colder May maximums would have been all associated with > > > showery days with the wind parallel to the coast S/SW, on these days snow > > > may not of even fallen anywhere in NSW. > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > While I think we would all agree that without a doubt this is a pretty > > > > remarkable cold outbreak that we are having, my data show it's not > > > > necessarily all that unusual. Today's max of 14.6 is only the 8th lowest > > > > for May (over 24 years) which represents a 1 in 3.8 year event. > > > > But at 5pm it was only 9.6, on an equal par with 31st May 1977. > > > > I hate winter as well, because it brings all the respiratory infections > > > > etc.. > > > > Some cracking frosts on the way for inland Sydney, unless that low > > > > pressure develops in the northern Tasman at the end of the week, as > > > > suggested by GASP...maybe we'll get a rain event? (sorry snow lovers, > > > > but we do need some rain here).... > > > > > > > > Susan Puddifer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Just heard on the 6pm news on the radio that temperatures here in Sydney > > > > > are down to 10C and expected to drop further. I've always hated winter > > > > > - this isn't helping the cause :) > > > > > > > > > > Susan > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 20:22:00 +1000 (AEST) From: Jonty Hall To: aus-wx Subject: aus-wx: Australia sub 30... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here's one for the Database Kings (or maybe it isn't): Just running through the obs Australia wide for today (30 May), and its noticable that every station in Australia reported a (rounded) max below 30C. There were a few 29s - Kowanyama (Qld), Maningrida, Milingimbi, Oenpelli (all NT) and Kuri Bay (WA), but not a single 30 anywhere. Is this the first time this has been recorded in May? I'm not sure where my money would lie with that question, but I reckon there's a fair chance that it is. Anyone? Cheers, Jonty. ____________________________________________________________________ Jonty Hall jdh at vortex.shm.monash.edu.au CRC for Southern Hemisphere Meteorology Monash University Wellington Road, Clayton, Vic 3168 Ph +61 3 9905 9684 ____________________________________________________________________ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.23.72.3] From: "Lyle Pakula" To: "Aussie-Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: Snow in Melbourne? Cold-air cb's, my first sighting Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 17:54:26 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, ski.com.au has several people reporting snow in the CBD and inner suburbs. I'm suspect to this but after the hail storm last nite, the air temp *really* dropped for a period of about 5 minute, my guess would be ~0C. After a bit of discussion today, I think it may be possible for a very localised coloumn of cold air could support snow to fall to low levels even though sorounding tempertures would not make this intuitive - any thoughts from the list? On my way to lunch today and finally got to see a cold-air cb - there was substantial brake in the low-level clouds which yielded a great view of the cb - my first. Must say, not as impressive as a fully-fledged summer storm but still just as exciting. Cheers, Lyle. p.s. off to Falls Creek in 1 hr, might be 1.5-2m by the time we ride tommorow, will defintaly post some pictures of the highlands later next week. Have a good week all! - - ---==( lyle_pakula at hotmail.com )==--- - - . / \ . /~~~\/ \ " No Friends On A Powder Day " / \ \ / \ \ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Steve Cselka" To: "severeweather" Subject: aus-wx: Sharp Drop in SOI Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:22:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 10:34:43 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: low maximum temperatures Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A few bits of trivia.... Sydney's max of 13.1 today (30-5-00) was the 2nd lowest in May for 61 years, behind only 12.9 on 7-5-1984, a very wet day. It was also the coldest day for any month for 4 years. The last 3 days of 14.2, 14.3 and 13.1 represent the first time ever there has been 3 consecutive May days under 14.5. And a question for Blair and his data bank... What about record low maxes... We know of Adelaide (Sat), Canberra (Sun)... but what about places such as Dubbo (9 Sun 9 Mon)when as far as I can find out their May record is 9.9 Also Oberon, 2 consecutive -1 maxes and 48 hrs of continous snow giving 30cm cover and 1 metre drifts? Not bad for that location. And Orange 2 consecutive 1 degree maxes.... any of these records?? don W. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: low maximum temperatures Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:55:12 GMT X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id HAA10945 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Tue, 30 May 2000 10:34:43 +1000, Don White wrote: >And a question for Blair and his data bank... >What about record low maxes... We know of Adelaide (Sat), Canberra >(Sun)... but what about places such as Dubbo (9 Sun 9 Mon)when as far as >I can find out their May record is 9.9 >Also Oberon, 2 consecutive -1 maxes and 48 hrs of continous snow giving >30cm cover and 1 metre drifts? Not bad for that location. And Orange 2 >consecutive 1 degree maxes.... any of these records?? And Blair, according to my database (based only on the Bureau's website climatic data, and therefore shorter term computer records), there was a raft of May minimum temp records went yesterday (29th), mostly in central Qld (Richmond, Clermont, Springsure, Isisford, Longreach), but also Baralaba Qld, Byron Bay and Wollongong Uni in NSW, Giles MO, and Centre Island in the NT. I haven't even looked at today's yet. Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE NSW snowfalls, coming our way ? Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 22:01:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Patrick ! Looking at the radar now ( 10pm ) and can't help getting rather excited by the band of rain moving up the coast. It's 3C at Bowral, probably just under 2C at Robertson and I think snow will start there within the next hour. I have to work tomorrow, boo, hiss. The amazing thing is the direction of the rain band, it is coming up the coast, can't see any westerly component in it at all, the wind is a different story still W/SW, it went SW for a while this morning before jumping back. STOP PRESS: Just done a visual outside. I have low cloud streaming in from S/SW, roughly parallel to the coast, a spit of rain just started, and wait for it....... a flash of lightning, way, way off to the SE over the ocean. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Tobin To: Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2000 18:15 Subject: aus-wx: SE NSW snowfalls > Have just heard that the Snowy Mtns Hwy over Brown Mtn has been closed due > to snow. Also the road south from Nimmitabel to Bombala is also about to be > closed (6pm Tues). > > The media reported police as saying heavy snow was falling and was showing > no signs of easing. > > It looks like this pool of cold air is moving north along the coast and > eastern escarpment - the temp is down to 10 at Moruya with rain falling. The > night should be interesting.. perhaps Robertson might get something decent > later on. I also expect Braidwood might do well out of this - so I would not > be surprised to hear that the road between Bateman's Bay and Braidwood over > Clyde Mountain also closes later tonight. > > In Canberra we are back to 4 so there is the slight chance of a > few more flakes before morning - I don't expect that anything significant is > likely here. > > This outbreak has some life in it yet... > > Patrick > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: New Brisbane Low Max Record for May? Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 22:48:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Anthony, Well the forest & hills effect was in full force last night, coupled with a good breeze stirring things up all night. Min at Mt. Crosby was a rather surprising 7.0C, some 8C warmer than Amberley's record low, around 3C warmer than Brisbane AP and also warmer than both coasts!! At 10:00pm tonight, there is again a good breeze and it seems a touch warmer than last night, currently sitting at 11.5C. I once again suspect the accuracy of my thermometer, but while rather cool & breezy, it certainly did not feel anything like 0C early this morning. I think the Brisbane city temp of 8C lends some credibility to the reading, even though we are 26K's inland from there. Nevertheless, I will put 2 thermo's out tonight to verify the read. John. >snip Subject: aus-wx: New Brisbane Low Max Record for May? Hi all, Going through last night's min temperatures, I saw that the Brisbane AP had 4C!!! According to the BoM page, 4.7C is the previous lowest min in May for the Brisbane AP. Any info Blair? :) I recorded 5.6C at my house, which is the lowest temperature I've had in two years. The grass temp at the AP was -1C!!! Amberly recorded -1C as a min temp. Interstingly, the new Brisbane site was 8C - I would have thought it'd have been even cooler than the Brisbane AP site, but apparently not. Anthony Cornelius +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------