Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:25:06 +1000
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While I was too young to remember snow in Bendigo in 1977, I do have vivid
memories of the June 23??, 1981 outbreak that had similar snowfalls as described
below in the 1977 event.  What were the actual max temps during the 1977 & 1981
outbreaks?

Also, how similar is this weekend shaping up to what occurred in June 1993 (ie.
Snow on the ground from Anakie to Daylesford)?

Regards,
Richard (who used to live in "I love frosty mornings" Bendigo)

P.S.  My guess is for some serious Black Ice north of the divide Saturday &
Sunday mornings.  Mt. Alexander (740m) and Mt Dandenong should get snow flurries
at least.

Kevin Phyland wrote:

> Hi Ben,
>
> I don't think it is the most recent but I can still recall the day it snowed
> in Bendigo on May 31, 1977. It was the coldest May day in over 80 years at
> the time and snow fell at sea level in the Western District at the very
> least...
>
> The snow melted as it hit the ground in Bendigo but stayed on the ground for
> long periods just south of Bendigo (Mt. Alexander).
>
> Kevin from Wycheproof.
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Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:43:21 -0400
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Soapy said:

> While I was too young to remember snow in Bendigo in 1977, I do have
vivid
> memories of the June 23??, 1981 outbreak that had similar snowfalls as
>described below in the 1977 event.  What were the actual max temps during
the >1977 & 1981 outbreaks?

Snow is a very effective 'radiator' of heat so that when snow covers the
ground, temperatures are quit different (lower) with snow on the ground vs
without snow.

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Hi all,

Well it's 6am here and the front is just west of us, conditions here now 
are windy and very cold. Kathryn and myself will be up the top of the hills 
around 1:30pm local time, hopefully we get some good shows. Down south 
would be a better option, with the stronger parts hitting the southern 
coasts this morning and this evening.

I will report back once we have done some cold viewing.

Time to rug up for work :)

Andrew Wall

Oh PS there is a SWA out:

SEVERE WEATHER ADVICE Issued at 4:40 am on Friday, 26 May 2000 For people 
in the Greater Adelaide and Mount Lofty Ranges district, Lower Eyre 
Peninsula, Yorke Peninsula, Kangaroo Island, the Lower South East, Upper 
South East and Murraylands. Severe winds and heavy rain are possible south 
of a line from Elliston to Maitland to Gawler to Lameroo this morning. Wind 
damage and flash flooding may occur and you are advised to take sensible 
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 01:12:29 -0700
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How is this system looking? Laurier, Blair, others?

They still have snow forecast for the Central Tablelands although unless
the winds turn more south, I'd say Oberon might see a fair bit more.

Lindsay Pearce

Phil Bagust wrote:
> 
> Looks like the coldest air has backed off for SA until Saturday morning.
> Although models and forecasts seemed to have slacked off a bit [damn, when
> will a cold outbreak really suprise us with unexpected and unforcasted
> severity...Blair?] early Saturday morning after an eveing's chill has
> traditionally been a good time for an SA snow chase - anywhere above the
> 600m mark might hit pay dirt [pay snow?]
> 
> I'll still be out tomorrow trying to run under a cold Cb or two in the
> afternoon after the rain band passes.
> 
> Fun!
> 
> Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
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SA BoM is now forecasting snow on higher ground in SA this evening.

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Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 07:55:52 +0930
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I'm very interested in cold air tornados.

Could someone [Mr Lemon??] direct me to any on line papers that are
relevant?  I believe that Chuck Doswell has written about this.

Why do we hear so little about coldies from the US?  With their temperature
gradients etc they should have some wicked cold air tornados.  Is it just
that coldie action in the states gets swamped by all the
spring/dryline/Great plains stuff?

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
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>
>Hobart:
>Saturday: Showers, Min: -4C Max: 8C
>Sunday: Snow, Min: -2C Max: 3C
>
>The Hobart temperatures that cold are almost impossible, as it would easily
>break Hobart's coldest maximum and minimum records. -4C with cloud cover?
>very unlikely.
>
>http://cnn.com/WEATHER/html/HobartAustralia.html
>

Definetly impossible with both wind and cloud cover. We never see frosts in
Hobart unless we have a high centered over us and clear, still weather.

Miguel de Salas

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Hello all, Just wondering if anyone else is having difficulty accessing the
ASWA radar site. Once I get to the members area all of the links appear dead.
With the weather we are expecting in Adelaide today I am keen to have a
look at the radar and see whats on the way. We have had a squally rain band
come through at about 6am but since then the sun has come out and the wind
has dropped completely. 

The bureau has a Severe Wx Advice current for most areas.

SEVERE WEATHER ADVICE 
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and Mount Lofty Ranges district, Lower EyrePeninsula, Yorke Peninsula,
Kangaroo Island, the Lower South East, Upper SouthEast and Murraylands.
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Maitland to Gawler to Lameroo today.
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flooded roads,and undertake outdoor activities with caution.

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Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:59:42 +1000
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Hi everyone

There is a free SMS message service available on the internet.
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Its more of an email thing like Hotmail, except they offer alot more,
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Well worth it if you like sending SMS messages, this way you can do it
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So cold in fact, that I have read reports of Tornadoes crossing snow 
fields in Montana and turning white!!  

John.
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I'm very interested in cold air tornados.

Could someone [Mr Lemon??] direct me to any on line papers that are
relevant?  I believe that Chuck Doswell has written about this.

Why do we hear so little about coldies from the US?  With their temperature
gradients etc they should have some wicked cold air tornados.  Is it just
that coldie action in the states gets swamped by all the
spring/dryline/Great plains stuff?

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From: Blair Trewin <blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU>
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> 
> I'm very interested in cold air tornados.
> 
> Could someone [Mr Lemon??] direct me to any on line papers that are
> relevant?  I believe that Chuck Doswell has written about this.
> 
> Why do we hear so little about coldies from the US?  With their temperature
> gradients etc they should have some wicked cold air tornados.  Is it just
> that coldie action in the states gets swamped by all the
> spring/dryline/Great plains stuff?
> 

There's probably a bit of that, although 'coldies' are quite common
in California in winter and spring (probably along the rest of the 
west coast, too).

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From: Blair Trewin <blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU>
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Everything is starting to converge now.

All models now expect a low to form near Tasmania today, with the
very coldest air pushing up in the South Australian region; all
expect thicknesses near 528 in the Adelaide area.

Things then begin to slacken off a little; no model is now going for
anything much below 528 in Melbourne, which means snow in Melbourne
itself is unlikely, although the Dandenongs should still see some.

The most notable feature of today's run is how long the cold persists.
Of the four main models, three have Melbourne at 532 or close to it
right through until Monday night (and even GASP, which moves things
off more quickly, is at 535 then).

Interesting features of particular models, although longshots at
this stage, are a discrete cold pool in the EC which stays sub-530 on
its passage across NSW through the weekend and is still around 535 
when it hits SE Queensland, and a spectacular NZ cold outbreak in
GASP for the middle of next week (screaming southerlies, thicknesses
below 524 over the whole South Island with 514 in Invercargill, and
850 hPa temperatures between -4 and -9). GASP also has 850 hPa temps
of -1 near Alice Springs on Wednesday; definitely cold enough for
snow on the ranges there, but moisture will be the problem.

SA is the zone to watch for the moment. Precipitation is likely to
be heavy, so anywhere above the snowline (which I would expect to be
in the 400-800 metre range in the Adelaide area - obviously at the
higher end that means no snow, as the highest point is in the 700s)
could get heavy falls - if the snowline drops low enough the higher
parts of the Adelaide Hills could get 20cm+. The southeast will be
even colder, but has no hills high enough (not a lot above 200 metres
down there).

Blair Trewin
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 05:11:07 -0700
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12pm Friday

Winds beginning to freshen in Upper Blue Mountains, Mount Boyce has us
around 8 degrees  with 20 kilometre winds, feels warmer than 8, haven't
checked my gauge since this morning. 


Hope you can get home from Sydney tonight Laurier to enjoy the show. You
should be able to I'd imagine.


Cloud cover  = 4/8


Lindsay Pearce

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Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 22:25:10 -0400
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> So cold in fact, that I have read reports of Tornadoes crossing snow 
> fields in Montana and turning white!!  
> 
> John.

I know nothing of this.  I would and am *extremely* doubtful of these
reports.  I have seen severe thunderstorms and even mesocyclones with
surface temperatures or + 2 to + 5 degrees C but the instability is
elevated above the cold stable layer.  These layers are so cold and so
stable that tornadoes don't have a chance to penetrate to the surface. 
Additionally, that cold air is extremely deleterious to the parent
updrafts.  Moreover, the cold air contains little in the way of latent
heat.

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Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 13:19:03 +1000
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Hi Les,

"Coldies" is slang here for tornadoes that develop in high shear and low
buoyancy (eg, cold fronts here often exhibit this charecteristic, as do
tropical cyclone tornadoes).  It's just that high shear and low buoyancy
normally occur in cold fronts, hence the term "cold air tornado." 
Although generally, the main trigger seems to be a steep lapse rate in
the lower 3-4km, and high shear (eg, 30kn  at  850mb is considered a
threshold I believe, but 40-50kn  at  850mb is considered ideal).  Barry
Hanstrum from the BoM in WA has done a lot of research into "coldies" as
"coldies" are common in SW WA during winter.

"Coldies" do not require the presence of a mesocyclone - but I believe
that some "coldies" are actually supercellular tornadoes from cold-air
supercells.

RE your other email about snownadoes - the recent documentary (Storm
Force) had footage of a tornado on the ground while there was snow on
the ground.

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Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 22:16:20 -0400
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" <lrlemon at compuserve.com>
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> > I'm very interested in cold air tornados.
> > 
> > Could someone [Mr Lemon??] direct me to any on line papers that are
> > relevant?  I believe that Chuck Doswell has written about this.

I am not sure what you are referring to.  We have what we call "cold air
funnel clouds" but not sure I know of "coldies or cold air tornadoes".  Our
cold air funnels are the result of a deep, mid-level (~500 mb or higher),
cut-off low, that is also a pool of cold air aloft.  The environment
appears to be one of large vertical vorticity and instability.  These
funnels have very rarely, if ever (although there have been reports),
touched down.  To my knowledge Chuck has not done other than mentioned
these funnels.

In some situations similar to the above, thunderstorms can form and are
often hailers and occasionally these storms can produce tornadoes.  In
other situations, characterized by strong, post frontal cold air advection,
the surface can warm rapidly but large lapse rates and shallow but high
CAPE can produce mini supercells and tornadoes.

So, if you can, please better define these "coldies" I might be able to say
more..

Les 
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 00:22:03 -0400
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" <lrlemon at compuserve.com>
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Anthony:

> RE your other email about snownadoes - the recent documentary (Storm
> Force) had footage of a tornado on the ground while there was snow on
> the ground.

A couple stituations I over looked.   Air masses can recover rapidly and
there is the potential that in the presence of very strong warm air
advection, the surface temp could be + 10 or more with some snow still left
on the ground and severe thunderstorms present.  And in another case,
funnels with condensation and weak rotation can also occur without there
being actual "tornadoes".  I once saw something like this yet with
significant differences.  I spent 18 months on a ship and once actually saw
numerous vortices with condensation "cloud" extending from the sea surface
to the low cloud base.  These vortices were like pillars of rotating cloud
scatted about.  However, in that situation it was cold air over the very
warm sea surface of the gulf stream near but just off the east coast of the
US.  There were actually super-adiabatic lapse rates such as those that
drive dust devils, but were rather caused by cold air over warm water.  So,
there are situations where something like you suggest could actually occur
but not quit what the video observer might think he/she was seeing.  

How "violent" was this "snownado"?

Les

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From: Blair Trewin <blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU>
Subject: aus-wx: The cold stuff makes landfall
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The seriously cold air has clearly made landfall. Portland has
dropped to 5.2 degrees.

There is a very impressive-looking band of showers (both on the radar
and by sight) west of Melbourne at present. I suspect the two AWSs
in the Geelong area haven't updated recently, as they are both still
showing 13-14 degrees and no rain.

Port Lincoln has also dropped to 7, and most of the more exposed SA
coastal sites are below 10 now.

Blair Trewin
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Rain band came through with the front at about 7.00 am.  Gusty winds
[90+kph at Adelaide Airport] and rain, but no big deal.  No thunder.  No
hail.  Some minor damage reported.

We've had the common post frontal clearing this morning, plently of sun and
the wind has moderated.  But I see some lumpy Cu marching up from the south
now so we'll see what happens this afternoon.

Still think sunrise tomorrow morning will be the best time to chase.

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From: davidkc at advanceenergy.com.au
Subject: aus-wx: NSW Weather
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 14:31:26 +1000
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HI..

Latest posting by BOM so far..

IDW21N00
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1107 on Friday the 26th of May 2000
Graziers are advised of  COLD, WET and WINDY weather developing with and
behind a cold front over the southern inland today and this evening and
spreading to central areas overnight or early Saturday. The front is
expected to bring widespread showers with local hail, strong winds and snow
on the higher ground of the ranges. The warning includes the following
districts

SOUTHERN TABLELANDS
SOUTH WEST SLOPES
RIVERINA AND MIA
LOWER WESTERN
CENTRAL TABLELANDS
CENTRAL WEST SLOPES AND PLAINS


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Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 14:43:29 +1000
From: Matthew Smith <tornado at bigpond.net.au>
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Hi

BoM are going for snow, hail and thunder on the central tablelands
tomorrow... I am feeling extremely reluctant to take my little pulsar up
there in snowy conditions based on what has been said here on the
list....Anyone in Sydney who has a 4WD and wants to go up the mountains
tomorrow ? Give me an email, im sure there are 1 or 2 other people who
would be interested in comming along (Jimmy/Matt Pearce?).
Im working tonight, so i wont read any emails until midnight, we can
organise things early tomorrow morning if we get a car suitable for the
conditions.
Matt Smith (hoping to see snow falling for the 1st time in his life)

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From: Blair Trewin <blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU>
Subject: aus-wx: Portland going ballistic
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Further to my last mail, Portland has now dropped to 3.5, with 41-knot
winds and 9.2mm rain in the last 10 minutes.

They must be getting very close to snow there now.

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Blair's reference to the Geelong AWS prompts me to report that absolutely
no rain has fallen over most of Geelong despite the radar pictures.  Over
the northern suburbs some light spots were seen, and the roads became wet,
but: only a trace up to 3.15 pm.


At 02:26 PM 26-05-00 +1000, you wrote:
>The seriously cold air has clearly made landfall. Portland has
>dropped to 5.2 degrees.
>
>There is a very impressive-looking band of showers (both on the radar
>and by sight) west of Melbourne at present. I suspect the two AWSs
>in the Geelong area haven't updated recently, as they are both still
>showing 13-14 degrees and no rain. Temp is still 12.8.
Regards, Lindsay

>Port Lincoln has also dropped to 7, and most of the more exposed SA
>coastal sites are below 10 now.
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Geelong still 12.8 at 3.15 pm, and sun is shining!
Regards, Lindsay

At 02:44 PM 26-05-00 +1000, you wrote:
>Further to my last mail, Portland has now dropped to 3.5, with 41-knot
>winds and 9.2mm rain in the last 10 minutes.
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>They must be getting very close to snow there now.
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Wonthaggi at 4pm,heavy rain(green on radar)very windy and dark,all lights in 
town on when i passed trough.also nice big swell out there too!!!!
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First decent cold air has hit Adelaide, after sitting on 13-14 degs most of
the afternoon I now have 9 degs and dropping.  No hail yet.  Too late to
chase now, so it will be first thing in the morning.

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:46:31 +1000
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Hi all,

Firstly - apologies to all who live in SE QLD, I'm about to ruin it for
everybody by saying what I'm about to say <g>  With the moisture and
N'ly winds (although shifting NW tomorrow, before swinging cooler W'ly
later) and the clearing rain, we might have the risk of a thundery or
three.  I know I'll be keeping an eye on things - and as slight as a
risk there is, if a cloud so much as farts, I want to be there to hear
it :-)

We should have some colder air coming through the upper levels before
the W'ly and eventually SW'ly change.  So there is a chance there...I
know it's a W'ly/SW'ly front - but still, might get interesting!  We'll
see what happens!

Currently 5:45pm here, 21.5C, 1011hPa falling, light N'ly and a DP of
17.5C.  Some rain patches about in the Lockyer Valley and Granite Belt.

GO THE BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: Blair Trewin <blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU>
Subject: aus-wx: More on current obs
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Portland's brief foray to 3 didn't last long (and was fairly isolated),
but we now have general 5-6 degree temperatures through SW Victoria
and SE SA. Also 1 at Mt. Lofty last time I looked.

Most of the shower activity near Melbourne has cleared for the time
being.

Interesting to note that NSW are forecasting max temps of 3 for
Goulburn and Orange for Sunday. Orange is a possibility, but I think
it may be a little ambitious for Goulburn, which isn't normally any
more susceptible to extreme low max temps than Canberra is (and 
Canberra has only ever had two days below 3, one of which was with a
cold outbreak and one with persistent fog).

I'll be up around Wangaratta/Beechworth on the weekend - won't have
the chance to post to the list, but will ring someone if I see 
anything interesting. We're running at around 500m elevation on 
Sunday morning, which could well be near or above the snowline.

Blair Trewin
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Hi every1,

I've been keeping a kinda running log of the spring supercells in the US for 
the last year or so...

so if you really like to see the monster puppies that burgeon in the Alley 
check out the visible satpix section of my site:

http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/manchester/4/satpix.html

Geez...they sure do have some monsters!

Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.

P.S. Became black as night here about 1.30 p.m. then had 5.5mm of heavy rain 
then it cleared. Currently (8 p.m.) very cold but feels like it will get a 
lot colder before morning!  <g>
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I agree with the Goulburn forecast, both centres are barely around the 600m
in altitude, if anything one would expect Canberra to be cooler. Taralga
about 50km north of Goulburn may see 3C as the maximum.

Michael


>
> Interesting to note that NSW are forecasting max temps of 3 for
> Goulburn and Orange for Sunday. Orange is a possibility, but I think
> it may be a little ambitious for Goulburn, which isn't normally any
> more susceptible to extreme low max temps than Canberra is (and
> Canberra has only ever had two days below 3, one of which was with a
> cold outbreak and one with persistent fog).
>
> I'll be up around Wangaratta/Beechworth on the weekend - won't have
> the chance to post to the list, but will ring someone if I see
> anything interesting. We're running at around 500m elevation on
> Sunday morning, which could well be near or above the snowline.
>
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Hi all,

After leaving work today Kathryn and myself went up to Mt Lofty to have a 
look at the view and hopefully some winter weather. We were there for no 
more than 5 minutes when hail started to fall from the cloud above, wasn't 
that heavy and it wasn't all that wet either. Only fell for about 30 
seconds then stopped, Kathryn and myself were sort of excited because we 
had not seen hail for a while.

We sat in the car slowly watching the temperature drop, when I decided to 
go for a look over the hill. After my return we headed to Mt Lofty Summit 
lookout area, we watched a heavy looking cloud come from a southerly 
direction the cloud base was less than 700m as Mt Lofty is around 700m and 
the cloud base was below us. We watched filmed and took pictures of this 
cloud coming in and head over us, the cloud hugging the hill line is 
awesome to look at, a must see if anyone come to Adelaide during winter 
events like this. After the cloud had gone over us (we were inside the 
cloud) it started to hail lightly, so we started filming again, some kids 
were playing near by and once the hail started coming down hard you would 
swear that the world was going to end, by the screams of the kids as they 
were pelted with 2mm hail. We got all this on video as well :)

The hail continued and continued to come down and the ground was very icy. 
We kept filming the hail on the ground and in the garden beds. We were 
soaked to the bone from being inside the hail :) We decided to go back to 
the car for a bit of warmth. We noticed a car on the way back had hail all 
on it's front windsheild so we took video of it. We continued to my car 
which was brown, but it had changed to a whitish looking car, I had hail on 
it from rear bumper to front bumper, so we took video and still pictures of 
that too :) Temp was only 3.8c at the car :(

We sat in the car desperately trying to recover from our exciting afternoon 
and the cold. We decided to go home it was around 5pm local. When we 
arrived home we checked messages okay 4 hang-ups and a message from the ABC 
radio, they wanted to do an interview with me talking about the ASWA and 
Adelaide weather, unfortunately they wanted to do the interview at 2pm 
local and I missed it. They also sent me an email as well, so hopefully 
something happens out of that (nervous twitch). We decided to watch the 6pm 
news, they had a reported up at Mt Lofty, BUGGER we missed them too :(

We could have had twice the publicity today but we were in the wrong spot 
at the right time as always it seems .

So now we are home watching radar, hoping it will snow on the Mount tonight 
so we can go back up there and do it all again.

By the way very wet and very cold strong gusty winds on top of Mount Lofty 
experienced today. Strongest wind would have been around 30 knots easy..

Regards

Andrew Wall

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From: "dann weatherhead" <weatherhead at ozemail.com.au>
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 22:14:02 +1000
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The satpic is very detailed and you can see the formation and structure of this 
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