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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Wednesday, 2 February 2000

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001 "Max King" [mnk at Dingoblue.net.au]              NSW group social night..
002 "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net]           USA Winter?
003 Miguel de Salas [mm_de at postoffice.utas.edu.au  Darwin Cam
004 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Radar - still out?
005 Patrick_Tobin at ama.com.au                       NSW Dry Line??
006 "weatherhead" [weatherhead at ozemail.com.au]     Radar - still out?
007 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Sydney obs.
008 Lyle Pakula [LyleP at oakton.com.au]              Recommended Reading
009 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Adelaide February record under threat?
010 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        USA Winter?
011 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    Sydney obs.
012 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           For those with SDS??
013 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]           Recommended Reading
014 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]       Recommended Reading
015 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    For those with SDS??
016 Paul Miracki [pmiracki at powerup.com.au]         For those with SDS??
017 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  ASWA archive upload report...

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001
From: "Max King" [mnk at Dingoblue.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW group social night..
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:08:10 +1100
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Hi all

A drink ???
Sounds good to me :))
I'll try nad make it too :))

Max
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Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 6:46 PM
Subject: aus-wx: NSW group social night..


> Hi everyone,
>
> Just to get people together, Mario and I have decided to go to the The
Mean
> Fiddler for a few drinks and just some fun and laughs.
>
> Place: Cnr Windsor & Commercial Rds
>                  Rouse Hill NSW 2155
>
>                  Ph: (02) 9629 4811 of the Mean Fiddler if you need it
>
> Date: Saturday 5th February 2000
> Time  7 - 8pm
>
> By the way this is not an ASWA event as such so anyone can come and go if
> they wish. Bring friends and so on. Males and females!!!! Especially
> females to make the balance. This is an Irish Pub and so you need
> reasonable dress code - Collar shirts for Males etc... You could eat here
> if you wish but meats you cook yourself.
>
> see you there   remember this Saturday
>
> Jimmy Deguara
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From: "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: USA Winter?
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:14:47 +1000
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A rather late post on this thread I'm afraid,...

I have a book "Exotica" (no that's not erotica...), which has a photo of
Monstera Deliciosa plants growing on Bald Cypress trees hung with Spanish
Moss (Tilandsia sp.).  The caption on the photo goes on to mention that the
plants "have withstood 19F cold here at Tampa Florida".  Tampa is on the
Gulf coast side of the Florida peninsular, at a latitude approximately equal
to the QLD Gold Coast.  19F is -7.2C!  This would be extreme cold for the
Gold Coast (and most of NSW coast down to Sydney for that matter) and I
doubt that anything remotely like this has ever been recorded on the Gold
Coast itself.  (Perhaps maybe at Binna Burra or Springbook at around 1000m
elevation).

Goes to show how the geography and topology of the USA produces much greater
climatic extremes than in Oz.  Having visited Houston Texas in May (as a
guest of Compaq), I can vouch for the fact that it was hotter and steamier
than any normal summer day in Brisbane.  Hate to think what July would be
like.

John.
>snip

Hi all,

"Leslie R. Lemon" wrote:
>
> Snow has been seen at Miami, Fl.  Temps in mid FL have been in the low
> teens and singel digets in the panhandel.

Wow!!  I never knew this!  I've always considered Miami warmer than
Brisbane, generally because most of it is surrounded by ocean.  But
Brisbane has never seen snow.

Was it snow, or sleet?  Although there haven't been any confirmed cases
that I know of, of sleet in Brisbane either.

I take it you mean F degrees when you say low teens and single digits?
What's the lowest recorded Miami Temp?
--
Anthony Cornelius

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Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Cam
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Is it just me of has the Darwin Storm cam been showing the same pic for
several days?

Miguel de Salas

 School of Plant Science,
 University of Tasmania,
 PO Box 252-55, Sandy Bay, Hobart
 Tasmania, Australia, 7001.

mailto://mm_de at postoffice.utas.edu.au

My Moths Page:
http://members.xoom.com/migueldes/moths/moths.html
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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 11:25:38 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Michael Thompson wrote on Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:13:49 +1100:
> 
> No need to apologise Greg ! I appreciate your efforts.

My last words also...I agree with MichaelT..."Them's the
breaks". The archive service I run, although automated is
not that smart. It can only recover a wee bit, squawks,
then gives up. If I'm away or not watching the log report
carefully, then stuff-ups can be missed with the loss of
archives. Murphy's law dictates that these stuff-ups
coincide just when there's a severe storm about and not
during the quiescent periods...Some stuff-ups are due to
the sites I access, local router problems, workstation
limits being exceeded e.g. disk space, process numbers,
swap space and of course my fiddling with scripts and
not testing properly or not cutting and pasting the BoM
radar password from E-Mail properly. You name it, it's
happened:-)

All up, I reckon the ASWA site is a credit to its
creator(s) and maintainer(s). Sure, there's some t's 
to cross and i's to dot and that'll come with time...
But it's easy to use, intuative, fast and does the job 
mostly 24hrs per day, 7 days per week. 

Great work Michael Fewings and Greg Spencer! Great
advice also I bet from some of the best private WWW
weather page owners you'll find on the 'net and also
in ASWA...well, a lot of them:-)

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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005
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The BoM 9.00 am obs at
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/wrap_fwo.pl?IDO31N01.html
shows some strong contrasts in dew points over western
NSW this morning.

West of the "line" are places like Tibooburra AP (-2), Broken Hill AP AWS (3)
and Mildura (5).

To the east Lightning Ridge (20), Wilcannia (15) and Bourke (16) were much
higher.

Could be one or two interesting cells near the boundary in the moist
zone later today?

In Canberra at 11.30 am a few  congestus are developing over
the Brindabellas in a moist (for this area) DP of 14, DB 23.

Patrick


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From: "weatherhead" [weatherhead at ozemail.com.au]
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I think sometimes with all the conveniences of radar,  as well as the
satpics and soundings,
 we forget to realize what a great and vital tool this is.  Maybe we also
forget the time it takes to properly get all these services running.
So..yeah what i am saying is well done, and i appreciate the work that you
guys (michael and greg) put in so we can see some blue, green, pink yellow
and red pixels (hopefully) on our screens

Daniel Weatherhead
weatherhead at ozemail.com.au


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> Michael Thompson wrote on Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:13:49 +1100:
> >
> > No need to apologise Greg ! I appreciate your efforts.
>
> My last words also...I agree with MichaelT..."Them's the
> breaks". The archive service I run, although automated is
> not that smart. It can only recover a wee bit, squawks,
> then gives up. If I'm away or not watching the log report
> carefully, then stuff-ups can be missed with the loss of
> archives. Murphy's law dictates that these stuff-ups
> coincide just when there's a severe storm about and not
> during the quiescent periods...Some stuff-ups are due to
> the sites I access, local router problems, workstation
> limits being exceeded e.g. disk space, process numbers,
> swap space and of course my fiddling with scripts and
> not testing properly or not cutting and pasting the BoM
> radar password from E-Mail properly. You name it, it's
> happened:-)
>
> All up, I reckon the ASWA site is a credit to its
> creator(s) and maintainer(s). Sure, there's some t's
> to cross and i's to dot and that'll come with time...
> But it's easy to use, intuative, fast and does the job
> mostly 24hrs per day, 7 days per week.
>
> Great work Michael Fewings and Greg Spencer! Great
> advice also I bet from some of the best private WWW
> weather page owners you'll find on the 'net and also
> in ASWA...well, a lot of them:-)
>
> Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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*sigh*

http://www.bom.gov.au/info/wmd/olympic/obser.htm

30 minute Sydney observations may become "registered" in the future :(

what a joke.. who knows, maybe we will have to pay to enter the web site soon!

Matt Smith
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From: Lyle Pakula [LyleP at oakton.com.au]
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Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone could suggest some recommended reading in relation
to the mechanics of  severe storms. At the moment i would prefer to focus on
severe thunderstorms which produce the most extreme events (hail, tornados
etc). I am also highly interested in snow storms and the mechanics behind
them. 

I would prefer the more scientific material but anything that is enlightning
will be well appreciated. It does not have to be restricted to books,
journals and the like are all o.k.  

Thanks,
Lyle
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Adelaide February record under threat?
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Adelaide is showing 38 at 11.30 local time (with up to 41 at 
Parafield). The February (Stevenson Screen) record is a rather modest
43.4 (set in 1912 and equalled in 1981). It's not out of the 
question that it could go today, with Friday (when 42 is forecast)
another strong possibility.

Blair Trewin
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: USA Winter?
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> 
> A rather late post on this thread I'm afraid,...
> 
> I have a book "Exotica" (no that's not erotica...), which has a photo of
> Monstera Deliciosa plants growing on Bald Cypress trees hung with Spanish
> Moss (Tilandsia sp.).  The caption on the photo goes on to mention that the
> plants "have withstood 19F cold here at Tampa Florida".  Tampa is on the
> Gulf coast side of the Florida peninsular, at a latitude approximately equal
> to the QLD Gold Coast.  19F is -7.2C!  This would be extreme cold for the
> Gold Coast (and most of NSW coast down to Sydney for that matter) and I
> doubt that anything remotely like this has ever been recorded on the Gold
> Coast itself.  (Perhaps maybe at Binna Burra or Springbook at around 1000m
> elevation).
Nothing like this has ever been recorded on ANY Australian coast, let
alone a tropical one! Even in Tasmania, few coastal sites have been
below -3.

Low temperatures have, however, been recorded quite close to the coast
- in Queensland as well as further south. Notable low minima within
50km or so of the coast (and near sea level) 
include -5 at Amberley (on the western fringe
of Brisbane), -8 at Richmond (western fringe of Sydney), -7 at Bega
(about 15km inland from the far south coast of NSW), -7 at Bairnsdale
and -6 at Sale (both 10-20km inland from the Gippsland coast). The
Richmond figure is the lowest recorded below 200m in Australia, 
although I suspect that Coldstream will eventually break this record
when it has a long enough period of observations.

The highlands in SE Queensland have also had some very low minima.
As far as I know there's never been a temperature site at either
Binna Burra or Springbrook (and as ridgetop sites I wouldn't expect
either to have especially low minima anyway), but a bit further inland
Stanthorpe and Warwick have both recorded -11. I wouldn't be surprised
if the new Glen Innes site eventually gets close to -15, although the
lowest so far (in about 3-4 years of record) is -10.

Blair Trewin
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Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 16:57:04 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Matt Smith wrote:
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> http://www.bom.gov.au/info/wmd/olympic/obser.htm
> 
> 30 minute Sydney observations may become "registered" in the future :(
> 
> what a joke.. who knows, maybe we will have to pay to enter the web site soon!

Shhh!  Don't give them ideas!!!

I don't mind paying for data on the web, such as frequent sat
pics/radar/observations/forecast models etc - but it's the amount that
is asked that gets me rather upset.  How is a personal user meant to
afford $600/yr for radar???  Or another $600/yr to look at forecast
models???  All the meteorological products in Australia are aimed at
corporate users, with no consideration at all, for what private/personal
users.  Essentially, if you don't have money, they don't want to know
you - one of my pet hates in life (eg, if dad were to walk into Harvey
Norman dressed up in normal casual clothes, no one wants to know him -
but if we walks in after work in a suit, you can't get rid of the sales
people fast enough!!)  

I would just like to see meteorological products available, at a price
that personal hobbiests can afford!  And I don't believe this is too
much to ask for!

My whinge of the day,
Anthony Cornelius
 
> Matt Smith
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Subject: aus-wx: For those with SDS??
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I know some of you on the list and ASWA have become so accustomed to storms 
that now even a few weeks of no storms had lead to SDS. Check this link out 
to see whether you suffer from the SDS...

http://home1.gte.net/txt/SDS.htm

Of course some may have read it!!! But Mario Orazem sent it to me so I 
thought putting it on the list might help the SDS victims.

Jimmy Deguara

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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 07:56:54 +0000
From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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Lyle Pakula wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering if anyone could suggest some recommended reading in relation
> to the mechanics of  severe storms.

In the beginning there was the supercell, then there was Browning who had radar
and saw it was good.

Start at the beginning - you'll find this paper is pretty well spot on, and not
too unreadable either!

Browning K A and Ludlam, F H (1962)
Airflow in convective storms
Quart.Journal of Royal Met. Society, 88, 117-135

Les(UK)



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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Recommended Reading
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:15:46 +1100
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Hi Lyle,

I can highly recommend you purchase the book "Thunderstorm Morphology and
Dynamics" by Kessler. I got it via the Co-op Bookshop website back in Dec
1998. I also got the book entitled "The Thunderstorm in Human Affairs" which
is also by Kessler. Both books are published by "University of Oklahoma
Press". The first book is larger and goes into a lot of detail about hail
and tornado formation.

Matthew Piper

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Subject: aus-wx: Recommended Reading


> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering if anyone could suggest some recommended reading in
relation
> to the mechanics of  severe storms. At the moment i would prefer to focus
on
> severe thunderstorms which produce the most extreme events (hail, tornados
> etc). I am also highly interested in snow storms and the mechanics behind
> them.
>
> I would prefer the more scientific material but anything that is
enlightning
> will be well appreciated. It does not have to be restricted to books,
> journals and the like are all o.k.
>
> Thanks,
> Lyle
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Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 19:46:53 +1000
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Hi Jimmy and all,

Here in Queensland, I have done further research into Supercell
Deprivation Syndrome.  I have outlined four different types (or
acronyms), of SDS.

The first, least severe is: Supercell Deprivation Syndrome - if you're
only supercell deprived, it can't be that bad!

Second, is: Storm Deprivation Syndrome - this is when you have no
storms, let alone a supercell!  It is at this stage when things start
getting serious.

Third, is: Summer Deprivation Syndrome - this is when you don't have
summer, let alone storms, let alone a supercell!  You commence abnormal
behaviour after this (if chasing after storms isn't abnormal enough!)

Four, and most serious is: Spormer Deprivation Syndrome - Where spormer
is a 5th season that occurs from October 16 to January 15.  Spormer is
derived from Spring + Storms + Summer.  This is when, not only do you
not get storms that occur in the Spormer Season (ie supercells), but you
don't get storms, you don't get spring, and summer has dissappeared off
somewhere, never to be found again until the next year!  During Spormer
Derpivation Syndrome, you get excited over a large Cu, or a puddle that
forms during a moderate shower, or that little white spec on the sat
pics that *could* be a 20,000ft storm 600km away to your SW that *could*
itensify as it reaches you in your +10 LI environment, or that coastal
Cb 200km out to sea that *could* intensity into such a left moving
supercell, it'll actually move towards the coast.

I do not believe it is a coincedence that all of these have the 3 same
initials of SDS!

What am I suffering from?  Spormer Deprivation Syndrome!!  And BADLY!!! 
Another bout of throwing ice cubes on the roof this afternoon...

Yes I am weird 

Anthony Cornelius

Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> 
> I know some of you on the list and ASWA have become so accustomed to storms
> that now even a few weeks of no storms had lead to SDS. Check this link out
> to see whether you suffer from the SDS...
> 
> http://home1.gte.net/txt/SDS.htm
> 
> Of course some may have read it!!! But Mario Orazem sent it to me so I
> thought putting it on the list might help the SDS victims.
> 
> Jimmy Deguara
> 
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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 21:25:10 +1000
From: Paul Miracki [pmiracki at powerup.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: For those with SDS??
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Hello Anthony and all,

I am suffering from Snow Deprivation Syndrome

bye.

Anthony Cornelius wrote:

> Hi Jimmy and all,
>
> Here in Queensland, I have done further research into Supercell
> Deprivation Syndrome.  I have outlined four different types (or
> acronyms), of SDS.
>
> The first, least severe is: Supercell Deprivation Syndrome - if you're
> only supercell deprived, it can't be that bad!
>
> Second, is: Storm Deprivation Syndrome - this is when you have no
> storms, let alone a supercell!  It is at this stage when things start
> getting serious.
>
> Third, is: Summer Deprivation Syndrome - this is when you don't have
> summer, let alone storms, let alone a supercell!  You commence abnormal
> behaviour after this (if chasing after storms isn't abnormal enough!)
>
> Four, and most serious is: Spormer Deprivation Syndrome - Where spormer
> is a 5th season that occurs from October 16 to January 15.  Spormer is
> derived from Spring + Storms + Summer.  This is when, not only do you
> not get storms that occur in the Spormer Season (ie supercells), but you
> don't get storms, you don't get spring, and summer has dissappeared off
> somewhere, never to be found again until the next year!  During Spormer
> Derpivation Syndrome, you get excited over a large Cu, or a puddle that
> forms during a moderate shower, or that little white spec on the sat
> pics that *could* be a 20,000ft storm 600km away to your SW that *could*
> itensify as it reaches you in your +10 LI environment, or that coastal
> Cb 200km out to sea that *could* intensity into such a left moving
> supercell, it'll actually move towards the coast.
>
> I do not believe it is a coincedence that all of these have the 3 same
> initials of SDS!
>
> What am I suffering from?  Spormer Deprivation Syndrome!!  And BADLY!!!
> Another bout of throwing ice cubes on the roof this afternoon...
>
> Yes I am weird 
>
> Anthony Cornelius
>
> Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> >
> > I know some of you on the list and ASWA have become so accustomed to storms
> > that now even a few weeks of no storms had lead to SDS. Check this link out
> > to see whether you suffer from the SDS...
> >
> > http://home1.gte.net/txt/SDS.htm
> >
> > Of course some may have read it!!! But Mario Orazem sent it to me so I
> > thought putting it on the list might help the SDS victims.
> >
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 22:32:36 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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Subject: aus-wx: ASWA archive upload report...
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For those who have been awaiting ASWA archive uploads, the
following were completed by 20000202. These include some
archives uploaded on 19991220;

=================================================================
Archive	Images Included			Dir/ZIP File
-----------------------------------------------------------------
msla	199908010000 - 199908312300	msla/a199908.zip
msla	199909010000 - 199909302300	msla/a199909.zip
msla	199910010000 - 199910312300	msla/a199910.zip
msla	199911010000 - 199911312300	msla/a199911.zip
msla	199912010000 - 199912312300	msla/a199912.zip
ade256	199906131830 - 199906132000	radar/a0256_1.zip
bri256	199912110000 - 199912112040	radar/b0256_9.zip
bri1024	199912110000 - 199912112040	radar/b1024_12.zip
per256	199906100200 - 199906100950	radar/p0256_1.zip	
per256	199906101600 - 199906102150	radar/p0256_2.zip	
per256	199906170700 - 199906172350	radar/p0256_4.zip	
per256	199907130000 - 199907131050	radar/p0256_5.zip	
gmsc	199906100030 - 199906102330	satpics/c9990610.zip	
gmsc	199906170030 - 199906172330	satpics/c9990617.zip	
gmsc	199907130030 - 199907132330	satpics/c9990713.zip
gmsd	199906130030 - 199906132330	satpics/d9990613.zip
gmsd	199906140030 - 199906142330	satpics/d9990614.zip
gmsd	199906220030 - 199906222330	satpics/d9990622.zip
gmsd	199912100030 - 199912111630	satpics/d9991210.zip
gmsfull 199912100031 - 199912111531	satpics/f9991210.zip
=================================================================

Most archives are complete with perhaps 1 or 2 corrupted
images removed in a time-span of 24 hours. Notable exceptions
are;

radar/a0256_1.zip - Only 6 images included. Rest removed.

To read the archive report, "Archive" refers to the archive 
directory that the images came from, "Images Included" refers
to the expanded file names from the "ZIP file" and "Dir" is
the directory where the ZIP file can be found e.g.

http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/radar/

For those that have ftp access to this site, it is much faster.
In the ftp case, the zip files are held within "Dir" e.g.
"/Documents/radar". When you ftp into the site, the command
"pwd" should reveal '"/Documents" is cwd'. Make sure that you 
use binary file transfer mode when "getting" these files.

The image file name is time-stamped in UTC. In the case of
radar, this is 10 minutes ahead of the image time stamp. In
the case of gmsc and gmsd, this is about one hour ahead. In
the case of gmsfull, the file time stamp is also the image
time stamp. Finally, in the case of msla, the file time
stamp is the nearest whole hour to when the BoM made the
chart available. This can be up to 3 hours ahead of the 
analysis time and varies.

All satpics are cropped to the region of interest, for 
example South-East Australia, South-West WA etc. The title 
of the image is preserved and placed at the top of the image
in all cropping cases. No other images are cropped, but the
same can be done to any JPG/GIF image if requested.

I apologise for the very long delay. There have been numerous
problems to overcome concerning firewall access etc. and when 
that has been fixed, I find myself just too busy and unable 
to stay behind at work during the evenings due to family needs
until now.

After I clear this archive request backlog, service will be
much better as I have automated some aspects of archive
retrieval that were previously a manual process.

Finally, I would like to change the zip file radar names
to something like "syd0256-20000201-1.zip" meaning the
first block of images on that date with "syd0256" being
narrow-scale and "syd1024" being broad-scale. What has
prevented this in the past has been recipients with a
computer file-system that can't handle long file names.
If all recipients of archives have either Windows-9*, 
Windows-NT, Windows-2000, Macintosh or any flavour of 
UNIX, then I'll change the naming convention. Please
reply to me directly if you can't handle long zip file
names ASAP.

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Updated: 12 February 2000

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