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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Friday, 17 September 1999

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001 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   Front Approaching Wollongong
002 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    NSW Severe Wx Warning
003 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   Re: Front Approaching Wollongong
004 "James Harris" [jimbohar at hotmail.com]          Front Approaching Wollongong
005 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   Front Approaching Wollongong
006 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          Synoptic charts of yesterdays winds
007 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          NSW Severe Wx Warning
008 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]    Strahan Weather
009 Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu]        Floyd II
010 "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au]  Good falls in Canberra
011 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Wild and Woolly Blackheath
012 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   This weeks low scaled back
013 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             Front Approaching Wollongong
014 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             here comes Christian.
015 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             here comes Christian.
016 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  NPMOC access stuffed:-(
017 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Thredbo 9am Obs:-)
018 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Radar
019 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Thredbo 9am Obs:-)
020 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Floyd and York
021 "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]    Melbourne Storm Damage
022 Paul Miracki [pmiracki at powerup.com.au]         Typhoon York Sat Loop
023 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]    Strahan weather
024 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Not WX really but Hell Boyle's Over...
025 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Photos wanted..... can anyone help?
026 Halden Boyd [halden at lis.net.au]                Re: Chasers with VODAPHONE
027 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   This weeks low scaled back
028 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   Front Approaching Wollongong
029 "ptera" [adderley at acay.com.au]                 here comes Christian.
030 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             here comes Christian.
031 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   here comes Christian.

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001

From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
To: "AusWx" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Front Approaching Wollongong
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:53:33 +1000
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Hi all,

An awesome line of storms has been developing over the last hour or two on
the Sydney radar - when I've been able to get a look at it! It's currently
marching towards Wollongong and I'm willing it not to disipate! Winds are
gusty from the N at the moment - I suspect the (very well defined) line is
the front.

I'll tell you in, oh, around half an hour if anything eventuates!

Andrew.
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amiskelly at ozemail.com.au


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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "aus-wx" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: NSW Severe Wx Warning
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:08:19 +1000
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SEVERE WEATHER WARNING
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 2349 on Thursday the 16th of September 1999

This warning affects people in the Sydney Metropolitan area.

This warning also affects people in the following Local Government Areas:
Kiama
Shellharbour
Wollongong
Gosford
Wyong

A  front with associated showers and thunderstorms is approaching from the
southeast, expected to reach Wollongong around 1:30am, Sydney 2:30am and
Gosford 3:30am. Gale force winds with gust to 90km/h and heavy rainfall are
possible ahead and with the front. 
Regards

James Chambers
The Brisbane & SE Qld Storm Site
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
To: "AusWx" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Re: Front Approaching Wollongong
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:06:01 +1000
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Here it is baby, yeah!

(Severe Weather Warning)

IDW10N15
TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
SEVERE WEATHER WARNING
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 2349 on Thursday the 16th of September 1999
This warning affects people in the Sydney Metropolitan area.
This warning also affects people in the following Local Government Areas:
Kiama
Shellharbour
Wollongong
Gosford
Wyong
A  front with associated showers and thunderstorms is approaching from the
southeast, expected to reach Wollongong around 1:30am, Sydney 2:30am and
Gosford 3:30am. Gale force winds with gust to 90km/h and heavy rainfall are
possible ahead and with the front. 
The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that people should:
 * put vehicles under cover
 * move indoors away from windows
During and after the storm people should:
 * take extreme care when driving 
 * beware of fallen trees and power lines
    * keep away from creeks and drains as you may be swept away
 
If your house is damaged contact your local State Emergency Service unit,
listed under "S" in the white pages, for emergency assistance.
TV CRAWL: Severe Weather Warning current.
NOT FOR BROADCAST: This warning will be updated within the next hour. The
Bureau and SES would appreciate it being broadcast regularly during this
period.
--
Andrew Miskelly
Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
amiskelly at ozemail.com.au


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From: "James Harris" [jimbohar at hotmail.com]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Front Approaching Wollongong
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:14:15 EST
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Well Ive been waiting all night but finally it looks like some action for us 
tonight.
I was actually at Bowral (100kms SW of Sydney) at around 9 - 10pm tonight, 
on top of the hill with the telecommunication tower and boy oh boy did I 
think I was going to be blown away. A Very strong NWer.

And this just through from the BOM.

James H

TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCASTSEVERE WEATHER WARNINGBUREAU OF 
METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 2349 on Thursday the 16th of September 1999

This warning affects people in the Sydney Metropolitan area.

This warning also affects people in the following Local Government Areas:
Kiama
Shellharbour
Wollongong
Gosford
Wyong

A  front with associated showers and thunderstorms is approaching from the
southeast, expected to reach Wollongong around 1:30am, Sydney 2:30am and
Gosford 3:30am. Gale force winds with gust to 90km/h and heavy rainfall are
possible ahead and with the front.




>From: "Andrew Miskelly" 
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: "AusWx" 
>Subject: aus-wx: Front Approaching Wollongong
>Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:53:33 +1000
>
>Hi all,
>
>An awesome line of storms has been developing over the last hour or two on
>the Sydney radar - when I've been able to get a look at it! It's currently
>marching towards Wollongong and I'm willing it not to disipate! Winds are
>gusty from the N at the moment - I suspect the (very well defined) line is
>the front.
>
>I'll tell you in, oh, around half an hour if anything eventuates!
>
>Andrew.
>--
>Andrew Miskelly
>Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
>amiskelly at ozemail.com.au
>
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Front Approaching Wollongong
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:07:38 +1000
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There's certainly a bit happening with this front. The latest warning from
the BoM (00:58)states that a 93Kph gust was reported in the Metro area. The
storms approaching wollongong did disipate into rain but the front hasn't
gone through yet so maybe we could get something.

Andrew.
--
Andrew Miskelly
Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
amiskelly at ozemail.com.au

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From: James Harris [jimbohar at hotmail.com]
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Date: Friday, 17 September 1999 0:27
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Front Approaching Wollongong


>Well Ive been waiting all night but finally it looks like some action for
us
>tonight.
>I was actually at Bowral (100kms SW of Sydney) at around 9 - 10pm tonight,
>on top of the hill with the telecommunication tower and boy oh boy did I
>think I was going to be blown away. A Very strong NWer.
>
>And this just through from the BOM.
>
>James H
>
>TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCASTSEVERE WEATHER WARNINGBUREAU OF
>METEOROLOGY
>NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
>Issued at 2349 on Thursday the 16th of September 1999
>
>This warning affects people in the Sydney Metropolitan area.
>
>This warning also affects people in the following Local Government Areas:
>Kiama
>Shellharbour
>Wollongong
>Gosford
>Wyong
>
>A  front with associated showers and thunderstorms is approaching from the
>southeast, expected to reach Wollongong around 1:30am, Sydney 2:30am and
>Gosford 3:30am. Gale force winds with gust to 90km/h and heavy rainfall are
>possible ahead and with the front.
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Andrew Miskelly" 
>>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>To: "AusWx" 
>>Subject: aus-wx: Front Approaching Wollongong
>>Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:53:33 +1000
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>An awesome line of storms has been developing over the last hour or two on
>>the Sydney radar - when I've been able to get a look at it! It's currently
>>marching towards Wollongong and I'm willing it not to disipate! Winds are
>>gusty from the N at the moment - I suspect the (very well defined) line is
>>the front.
>>
>>I'll tell you in, oh, around half an hour if anything eventuates!
>>
>>Andrew.
>>--
>>Andrew Miskelly
>>Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
>>amiskelly at ozemail.com.au
>>
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: aus-wx: Synoptic charts of yesterdays winds
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:07:25 GMT
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I've put some plotted synoptic charts for NSW/Victoria at 3am, 9am,
3pm and 9pm yesterday at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/aussiewx/  --
interesting to see how widespread the strong winds were over land, and
the tightness of the pressure gradients.

The analysis on the 3am chart is interesting, though debatable -- a
small closed low over Port Phillip is suggested by the surrounding
pressure readings, but may be fictitious. Likewise, the ridge down the
great divide, which would certainly have strengthened winds east of
Melbourne, is possibly overdone because of the MSL pressure
conversions. 

The 9pm chart also has rainfall isohyets.

There's a brief explanation of how to read the charts in the same
directory.


-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Severe Wx Warning
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:39:52 GMT
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On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:08:19 +1000, "James Chambers"
 wrote:

>SEVERE WEATHER WARNING
>BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
>NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
>Issued at 2349 on Thursday the 16th of September 1999
>
>This warning affects people in the Sydney Metropolitan area.
>
>This warning also affects people in the following Local Government Areas:
>Kiama
>Shellharbour
>Wollongong
>Gosford
>Wyong
>
>A  front with associated showers and thunderstorms is approaching from the
>southeast, expected to reach Wollongong around 1:30am, Sydney 2:30am and
>Gosford 3:30am. Gale force winds with gust to 90km/h and heavy rainfall are
>possible ahead and with the front. 

Quite a weird warning. While the "change" does seem to be moving
northwards, radar shows all rain from the Hunter south to near the Vic
border continuing to move SE or SSE. Strongest gusts so far are 41
knots at 00.23 at Bellambi and 47 knots at 1.22 at South Head -- I'm
not sure where they got the 95km/h gust figure from. Winds at Bellambi
only veered from NNW to WNW with the "change", while 2am winds at
Ulladulla and Wagga are still steadfastly from the N or NW. Perhaps
the "change" is a mobile tightening of pressure gradient??? 

Strong winds continue in Victoria, with Port Fairy and Dunns Hill
(just near Mt Dandenong) both reporting gusts to 47 knots at 00.30 and
01.30 respectively. The main wind change seems to be just west of
Melbourne, with N to NNW winds around the city but WSW at Port Fairy.

Sadly, Sydney radar is running over an hour late, while the GPATS
lightning map has been on the blink since 17.52EST.



-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:59:58 +1000
From: Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]
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Hello Everyone

A few showers overnight with 3mm  since 9am yesterday.
>From the airport at 5am temp 9C pressure 982mb the wind NNE at 11knot.
A Gale warning is current for northern, western and southern waters and
light highland snow developing later.

Coastal Stations 4am
CAPE SORELL
 WIND NNE  22KT

LOW ROCKY PT
 WIND NNE  11K

MAATSUYKER IS
 WIND E     8KT

CAPE GRIM
 WIND W    26KT/GUSTS TO 42KT

Chas
Strahan Tasmania


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From: Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu]
Subject: aus-wx: Floyd II
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Australian Severe Weather Association)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:27:24 +0000 (GMT)
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The "eye" of Floyd is approaching New York City - 
now here's a movie in the making.

Harald  at  20:15 UTC 

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From: "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Good falls in Canberra
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:27:38 +1000
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The dryish late winter spring (and SDS) was well quenched yesterday.

Canberra airport recorded 37.5mm from 9.00am yesterday, I got 27mm at Higgins (about 20km to the west). Thunderstorms interspersed with moderate rain produced most of the falls between around 5.30 to 9.30pm.

The forecast is for more storms this afternoon as the colder intensifies along with the passage of an upper trough.

Patrick
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:05:28 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Friday 8:30 am

22 mm overnight here in Blackheath at my place. More than I expected to
see this morning, must have slept well.

Strong wind gusts, even stronger at times overnight. Laurier will have
the figures on wind speeds etc.

Currently 5.5 degrees with a decent wind chill!

Lindsay P.

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:15:21 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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The BOM has scattered snow falls for south of the Cent. Tabs as of
Thursday at 11:35am. Any chance of some snow reaching the Cent. Tabs.
with those thickness forecasts and the 850 temps?

Anyone?


Lindsay P.

> This morning's GASP is bringing fairly cold air over SE Aust late this
> week and into the weekend, with the 536 thickness line and sub-zero
> 850hPa temperatures covering all southern and central NSW by 12z on
> Saturday. The latest (00z) LAPS is pointing that way, too, with a
> tongue of 532 thickness touching Mt Gambier at +48hours (Friday 9am
> EST) and obviously heading inland.
> 
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Front Approaching Wollongong
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:09:59 +1000
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Yo Andrew, you seem to be about a month behind.  It's now September.

-----Original Message-----
From:	Andrew Miskelly [SMTP:amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
Sent:	Monday, 16 August 1999 23:54
To:	AusWx
Subject:	aus-wx: Front Approaching Wollongong

Hi all,

An awesome line of storms has been developing over the last hour or two on
the Sydney radar - when I've been able to get a look at it! It's currently
marching towards Wollongong and I'm willing it not to disipate! Winds are
gusty from the N at the moment - I suspect the (very well defined) line is
the front.

I'll tell you in, oh, around half an hour if anything eventuates!

Andrew.
--
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Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
amiskelly at ozemail.com.au


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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: here comes Christian.
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:06:47 +1000
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Hi Ptera

Certainly a great photo, but unfortunately editing of any kind would disqualify it.  The electronic version must match the original.

John.

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>From:	ptera [SMTP:adderley at acay.com.au]

To show that I'm not totally slack, Here's a story:
I've been doing some part time work in a photocopier shop
in Wyoming (near Gosford..  near Woy Woy).
A woman came in yesterday to have some posters laminated.
They were taken by her son Christian about a year ago
and had been blown up to 500mm wide.
One was the most beautiful and impressive lightning strike I've ever seen.
I thought you lot might be interested so here it is:
http://www.acay.com.au/~adderley/lightning/
Christian is not on the net yet so I'll have to transpond any correspondence
manually.
Since the pic was so big it scanned well and I intend to print him out a
copy
of the one I've posted.
The original had power lines running right through the middle
but I've managed to edit them out.
On Christian's behalf and permission, I'd like to submit them to your photo
competition.
When I finally get organised I may mave some of my own to submit.
It's probably very rude of me to blunder in this way as I have not even paid
my subscription.
My apologies..
This will happen.

With regards,
Peter Adderley.
adderley at acay.com.au

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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: here comes Christian.
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:56:44 +1000
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Hello Peter again...

But I should also mention that as far as the ASWA photo comp goes, the 
presence of powerlines does not matter as they do not detract from the 
weather phenomena captured by the photo.  So maybe submit it with the 
powerlines....

John.

>snip

Certainly a great photo, but unfortunately editing of any kind would 
disqualify it.  The electronic version must match the original.

John.

The original had power lines running right through the middle
but I've managed to edit them out.
On Christian's behalf and permission, I'd like to submit them to your photo
competition.

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:49:36 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Laurier Williams wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:26:06 +1000, Michael Scollay
>  wrote:
> 
> >Michael Scollay wrote:
> >>
> >> For those of you interested, all hits that my archive makes on
> >> NPMOC have failed between 199909150530UTC and 199909151530UTC plus
> >> 199909152130 to the present time 199909160740. Reason is that
> >> NPMOC is getting hammered by hits concerning that hurricane in
> >> the US of A. Response is so slow that hits get 5% or 10% of the
> >> image before timing out due to lack of response from NPMOC.
> >
> >NPMOC has just recovered in the last 45 minutes. I've set up a
> >script to recover most of the gmsfull archive from jtwc but gmsd
> >and gmsc cannot be recovered:-(
> >
> Unfortunately, the archive is now back to just 24 hours -- there is
> also about 2 weeks of august satpix there, but they appear to be files
> stranded by some breakdown in an automatic deletion script.
> 
> Are you aware of the 45N to 45S hourly/half-hourly IR images available 
> from the archive at
> http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/products/jtwc/archive/jtgio/ -- strangely,
> these seem to be intact at the times when the global images cut off
> above Australia (particularly around 1500z

Thanks Laurier and yes, I am aware...but with over 40MB per day increase
in the archive for ASWA radar and satpics, adding more means less to
keep on-line and more on backup tapes...As for NPMOC, the chopped-off
image is a constant problem, particularly from 1500Z to 1630Z. The 
reason for this is available time v/s demand at NPMOC. Raw satpic images
are received locally then processed to the images delivered via WWW. When
processor(s) demand is high, there is less time to process the received
image before the next one is due, so the conversion is aborted resulting
in a truncated JPG image. I'm not sure whether NPMOC's woes are just 
confined to the WWW server, if so, then it is WWW demand that is 
increasing processor load. But I tend to think that this timing of 1500Z
corresponds to some other event at NPMOC, say a backup run. I know
from much experience that running backups is enough to grind many
machines to a very slow pace leaving less for real work...

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:06:46 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Thredbo 9am Obs:-)
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Someone tipped a bucket into the rain guage at Thredbo this morning...
9am Obs reported 310mm in the 24hr to 9am! In comparison, Thredbo
AWS recorded 4mm which is also very strange as -the other- AWS had
received over 30mm by the time it's gone off the air. The two are
located within 10m of each other. Me thinks that 100kph winds had 
something to do with rain flying over rather than into the official
Thredbo AWS rain guage. Charlottes Pass recorded 37mm and Perisher 
Valley recorded 41mm of which about 5mm has been snow in the
last few hours...

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:26:43 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I think the absense of radar loops is a problem on the BoM server, so
> unfortunately, there's nothing we (ASWA) can do about it :-(

Not quite true...my radar archive for Sydney radar only missed the 
following times for broad-scale:

199909160750 was a duplicate of 199909160740 UTC.
199909160910 was a duplicate of 199909160900 UTC.
199909162020 was a duplicate of 199909162010 UTC.
199909162240, 199909162250 & 199909162300 UTC images were duplicates
of 199909162230 UTC.

and for narrow-scale:

199909160850 was a duplicate of 199909160840 UTC.
199909160910 was a duplicate of 199909160900 UTC.
199909162240, 199909162250 & 199909162300 UTC images were duplicates
of 199909162230 UTC.

That's not a lot to lose but probably at critical times. No doubt
caused by some sort of mess because of lightning, excessive BoM
WWW hits causing overload, network congestion caused by outages
or you name it...

ASWA members who subscribe to radar can request images from 
the archive by specifying UTC time ranges. Just Email me.

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thredbo 9am Obs:-)
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> 
> Someone tipped a bucket into the rain guage at Thredbo this morning...
> 9am Obs reported 310mm in the 24hr to 9am! In comparison, Thredbo
> AWS recorded 4mm which is also very strange as -the other- AWS had
> received over 30mm by the time it's gone off the air. The two are
> located within 10m of each other. Me thinks that 100kph winds had 
> something to do with rain flying over rather than into the official
> Thredbo AWS rain guage. Charlottes Pass recorded 37mm and Perisher 
> Valley recorded 41mm of which about 5mm has been snow in the
> last few hours...
> 
> Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
I thought the station listed as 'Thredbo' was the village and the
AWS was on top of Crackenback? (this would certainly be consistent
with their reported temperatures).

Anyway, the 0900 bulletin's been corrected to 31mm for Thredbo and
45 for Thredbo AWS.

Blair Trewin
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Floyd and York
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather)
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Some rainfall figures from Hurricane Floyd and Typhoon York:

York: Hong Kong got 276mm in 24 hours yesterday (not sure when this
24-hour period ended). Press reports indicate peak winds around
140 km/h.

Floyd: Highest rainfall I've seen was 484mm at Wilmington, North
Carolina, but I'd expect to see higher totals from the hillier
parts of North Carolina and Virginia. There is a very broad band of
100+ totals (New York 120mm - and a bit to come as the system is more
or less on top of them at the moment - and Philadelphia 172mm, which,
somewhat to my surprise, is a 24-hour record for them), and a 
reasonable number of 200+. Certainly their drought is now stone dead!

Peak wind gusts at landfall seem to have been in the low 200s.

Blair Trewin
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To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne Storm Damage
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 99 13:35:25 PDT
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Hi Jane and all.  I've been off for a few days - anither hospital trip.  But I have to tell you that last night (Thursday), at Wandin north, aroung 10.3m p.m. a tree came down in my daughter's back yard.  One of thosepts.   It crashed onto the roof, and 21 tiles had to be replaced by my son-in-law.  Winds whooshed through from about 10pm to mindnight.  Several mature trees down in and around Lilydale to Wandin, along Warburton hwy.

Cheers,

Nandina
nandina at alphalink.com.au

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> Storm damage report (eastern suburbs):-
>
> Bayswater: Leaf litter, twigs
> Vermont: 1 mature tree down
> Box Hill: 1 mature tree down
> Kew: branches down on NW side of hill at Studley Park
>
> Other than that, there was no sign that we had the winds that we had last
> night - at least in this particular corridor.  Look forward to hearing from
> the rest of the Victorians.
>
> Last night the pressure dropped from 998 to 994 between 9pm & midnight,
> temperature went from 23.8C to 24.8C, humidity dropped from 62% to 47% in
> the same period.  At 10pm Mt Gambier had a pressure of 989!!  Light showers
> overnight carrying dust. Winds gale force till 4.30am.
>
>
> Jane ONeill
> ASWA - Victoria
>
> From: Anthony Cornelius
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Heard on the radio that there was damage from storms o'night - or was
> > this the galr force N'lys that occurred?
> >
> > Any Melbournites able to give us more information?  They said it was
> > mainly the inner suburbs that were affected.
>
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:36:35 +1000
From: Paul Miracki [pmiracki at powerup.com.au]
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Hey all, Paul from Brisbane here.

I have made a satelite loop of Typhoon York, It was made from 60
satelite images and it's 6.2 megs big so it may take a while to load
up.. Here's the URL:

http://www.powerup.com.au/~pmiracki/weather/loop.gif

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:47:14 +1000
From: Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]
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Hello Everyone

The wind has picked up after being moderate NE this morning, then calm,
now its SW 26KT gusting 36KT with light rain which seems a lot heavier
because of the wind. Temp 9C and pressure on the rise 993hp.

Chas
Strahan Tasmania

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:52:19 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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If you're interested in the physics and thermodynamics of Hell, 
read on, otherwise [snip]. This is a recent "joke" posted to a 
strongly-filtered "internal" jokes list that I also subscribe to.
It is one of the very best that has every entered my "Inbox"...

---
This is an actual question given in a recent University of
Washington chemistry midterm exam:

"Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs
heat)? Support your answer with proof."

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's
Law, discussing how gas cools off when it expands and heats up
when it is compressed, or some variant of this line of argument.

However, one student wrote the following:

First we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time.

So, we need to know the rate that souls are moving into Hell 
and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can
safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave.
Therefore, no souls are leaving.

As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the
different religions that exist in the world today. Some of
these religions state that if you are not a member of their
religion, you will go to Hell. With birth and death rates 
increasing as they are, larger and larger numbers are being 
born and dying in the wrong religion, and so we can expect 
the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. 

Now, we must look at the rate of change of the volume of Hell,
because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature
and the pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell
has to expand as souls are added.

This gives two possibilities:

(1)  If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at
which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in
Hell will increase until.....all Hell breaks loose.

(2)  If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase
of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop
until.....Hell freezes over.

So which is it??  If we accept the postulate given to me by 
Ms. Theresa Banyan during my Freshman year, that "it will be 
a cold night in Hell before I sleep with you", and take into
account the fact that this event has still not taken place, 
then (2) cannot be true.

And so, Hell is exothermic.

The student was awarded the only A grade in the exam.
--- 

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Photos wanted..... can anyone help?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:25:03 +1000
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Passing this on to everyone  ......

>Steve Rothwell here; I'm a freelance journalist based in
> Perth, Western Australia. I'm currently researching and writing an
> article about hurricane preparation for an Australian sailing magazine.
> Saw you on the web and thought I'd drop you a line.
>
> I'm on the lookout for pictures of boats and marinas in the
> aftermath of hurricanes, most notably Hurricane Andrew. Digital images
> would be fine but if thereare any slides or big prints going I'd be
> happy to pay for copies/ freight. Please advise if you can help or
> perhaps you might know of someone who does have pics?
>
> All the best from 'down under',
>
> Stephen Rothwell
> 1 Lensham Place
> Armadale 6112
> Western Australia
>
> Tel: (618) 9497 8353

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Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria
Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA Inc.) 
Melbourne Storm Chasers 
Email: cadence at rubix.net.au
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:37:33 +1000
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Subject: aus-wx: Re: Chasers with VODAPHONE
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Hello all.....
I have found this great site
http://www.mtnsms.com
For ASWA Vodaphone chasers it is excellent and will cut down on phone bills
who rely on someone watching the BOM Radar and relaying messages to the
chaser.
------------------------------------
This site is free...and you can send up to 10 messages to the same phone
number a day of no more than 142 characters long.
It is a GSM messaging service...which acts like a pager using your Voda
digital phone.
If you tee up someone on a puter you can go chasing and be advised by the
person on the puter if there are significant changes in intensity or
movement of cells from this website.
Check it out......Halden
PS the free service is based in Africa would you believe! The message you
send it instantaneous. You will note that Telstra and Optus have declined
to be a part of it....they suck.
PPS My son Deni who works for ONETEL as a Network Operations Control boss
advises me that Onetel between now and the end of the year will be offering
the first Australian roaming network.
This means that if you sign up with Onetel (and I am guaranteed the digital
pricing will be competitive with the three carriers) their system will use
all three carriers' tower networks which will mean that it will improve
coverage out of site......ie if you are closer to a Telstra/Optus/Voda
tower you will go though it.
I will keep you all posted on this development   :)

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: This weeks low scaled back
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:45:50 +1000
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I would be very surprised, perhaps some sleet early Sunday ?

Michael


> The BOM has scattered snow falls for south of the Cent. Tabs as of
> Thursday at 11:35am. Any chance of some snow reaching the Cent. Tabs.
> with those thickness forecasts and the 850 temps?
>
> Anyone?
>
>
> Lindsay P.
>
> > This morning's GASP is bringing fairly cold air over SE Aust late this
> > week and into the weekend, with the 536 thickness line and sub-zero
> > 850hPa temperatures covering all southern and central NSW by 12z on
> > Saturday. The latest (00z) LAPS is pointing that way, too, with a
> > tongue of 532 thickness touching Mt Gambier at +48hours (Friday 9am
> > EST) and obviously heading inland.
> >
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Front Approaching Wollongong
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:17:13 +1000
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Crap! Hahah!

I put the date back to use a shareware version of Paint Shop Pro that had
expired and forgot to put it back. Thanks!

Andrew.
--
Andrew Miskelly
Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Date: Friday, 17 September 1999 9:16
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Front Approaching Wollongong


>Yo Andrew, you seem to be about a month behind.  It's now September.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andrew Miskelly [SMTP:amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
>Sent: Monday, 16 August 1999 23:54
>To: AusWx
>Subject: aus-wx: Front Approaching Wollongong
>
>Hi all,
>
>An awesome line of storms has been developing over the last hour or two on
>the Sydney radar - when I've been able to get a look at it! It's currently
>marching towards Wollongong and I'm willing it not to disipate! Winds are
>gusty from the N at the moment - I suspect the (very well defined) line is
>the front.
>
>I'll tell you in, oh, around half an hour if anything eventuates!
>
>Andrew.
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>Andrew Miskelly
>Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
>amiskelly at ozemail.com.au
>
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From: "ptera" [adderley at acay.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: here comes Christian.
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:43:44 +1000
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>Hello Peter again...
>
>But I should also mention that as far as the ASWA photo comp goes, the
>presence of powerlines does not matter as they do not detract from the
>weather phenomena captured by the photo.  So maybe submit it with the
>powerlines....
>
>John.


No problem, the rules should be strict.
I've uploaded a new version to the same address (below).
Since I had to scan the original in three sections,
I had to stitch the parts together, which strictly speaking disqualifies it.
But the lines are back, as is the camera wobble.
I don't think it suffers much.
There are some things you just can't cheat.
A good lightning strike is one.
But I'm not fussed about the competition,
I'd just like to share a good pic
and spread the name of a fine young photographer.

New version is at:
http://www.acay.com.au/~adderley/lightning

Peter Adderley

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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: here comes Christian.
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:43:59 +1000
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Hi again,

I actually like this version better (seriously).  The combination of 
powerlines & lightning, particularly aligned as this happens to be, is nice 
counterpoint on all things electrical.  Maybe one of the power companies 
might like to use it for their new corporate image.  ("Putting the bang in 
your power buck", and all that sort of thing).
(Of course if this was Energex here in QLD, their caption would be "Don't 
blame us when the power fails"... :)

John.
>snip
No problem, the rules should be strict.
I've uploaded a new version to the same address (below).
Since I had to scan the original in three sections,
I had to stitch the parts together, which strictly speaking disqualifies 
it.
But the lines are back, as is the camera wobble.
I don't think it suffers much.
There are some things you just can't cheat.
A good lightning strike is one.
But I'm not fussed about the competition,
I'd just like to share a good pic
and spread the name of a fine young photographer.

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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: here comes Christian.
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:53:57 +1000
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Very creative John, loved ya work!

--
Andrew Miskelly
Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
amiskelly at ozemail.com.au

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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
To: 'aussie-weather at world.std.com' [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Date: Friday, 17 September 1999 23:51
Subject: RE: aus-wx: here comes Christian.


>Hi again,
>
>I actually like this version better (seriously).  The combination of
>powerlines & lightning, particularly aligned as this happens to be, is nice
>counterpoint on all things electrical.  Maybe one of the power companies
>might like to use it for their new corporate image.  ("Putting the bang in
>your power buck", and all that sort of thing).
>(Of course if this was Energex here in QLD, their caption would be "Don't
>blame us when the power fails"... :)
>
>John.
>>snip
>No problem, the rules should be strict.
>I've uploaded a new version to the same address (below).
>Since I had to scan the original in three sections,
>I had to stitch the parts together, which strictly speaking disqualifies
>it.
>But the lines are back, as is the camera wobble.
>I don't think it suffers much.
>There are some things you just can't cheat.
>A good lightning strike is one.
>But I'm not fussed about the competition,
>I'd just like to share a good pic
>and spread the name of a fine young photographer.
>
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