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001 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]              State of Origin
002 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]               Gold Coats Wx
003 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]               dammdammdamm
004 "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]    dammdammdamm
005 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    dammdammdamm
006 Jason Smith [s348771 at student.uq.edu.au]        Bris. Weather
007 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]               strange rainbow
008 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]      Bris. Weather
009 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             Mt Crosby-wx
010 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Mid North Coast Obs.
011 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   strange rainbow
012 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]            strange rainbows
013 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          strange rainbow
014 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]              Bris. Weather
015 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]            Oberon Snow Pics
016 Kevin Phyland [kjphyland at hotmail.com]          strange bow
017 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         strange bow
018 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au]          strange bow and rainbows
019 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]               strange rainbow

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:10:21 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..

I have to apologise to Paul Mossman, he was actually right when he said
that the bet between the QLD and NSW premiers was for the whole series,
and not the game.. because the game was actually a draw, the NSW flag
will today be draped over Wally Lewis (I heard this morning that it was
going to be flown over ANZ stadium now instead, not sure about that
one), and on monday the QLD flag will fly on top of the Sydney Harbour
Bridge.. I've heard that the flag is pretty big :) knowing our luck
their wont be a breath of wind in Sydney for the next week, and no-one
will see it..


John Graham wrote:
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> Hi Everybody,
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> I know  this isn't a weather topic but  I want to know if anyone out there
> knows how to get the windows update page to come up.
> When I go there, all I get is a blank screen....aaarrrggghhh!!!!!
> See Ya's Later
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hi all,
still the occassional rumble here. now getting dark i can see lightning to
my east, getting bit more frequent now. had 14ml in the gauge at 5 oclock
this arvo. well am logging off now, be back later tonight. GO THE BLUES!!!!
steve from queensland:)

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why teh heck aren't emails going through anymore!!???:(
sent on this arvo and still hasn't come through!
steve

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Steve - I have just this minute received this mail from you - it is now 9.20 am on Thursday morning, if this helps at all.

Cheers,

Nandina
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Dont worry Steve, I had the same problem the other day.

Strange weather continues. Taree reached 21 yesterday which I believe was the
State's top temp while also receiving 6.8mm in a heavy  "storm shower" yesterday
arvo.

Current obs. here .........4/8 Cu around heavy showers last night (so heavy you
could hear them coming) resulted in 12mm taking it to a meagre 25mm for this
"rain" event for Mitchell's Island.

Still need heaps more to make average for this month. I hope it gets here.

Thankyou Ben for your apology.

Rgds,
Paul at Taree


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:38:55 +1000 (GMT+1000)
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Had 31mm at Kenmore yesterday, with some very heavy rain during the origin
There's still a fair amount of water laying around - probably can't soak
through the permafrost.....

Looks like June is another month with above average rainfall.
I've got all the rainfall figures from this and last year in Excel if
anyone wants them to compare totals etc.

Pommy

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hi all, just got back from a short test drive in the new car, well not new,
bloody old hand me down!
	saw the weirdest rainbow ever! most rainbows have big arches, this one was
very narrow, only a few degrees off the ground, seemed to have more yellow
in it than any other colour aswell. unfortunately i didn't have my camera
on me, and i thinks its gone already! but thats something for us to ponder
about. any one have any theories?
steve from the cold goast

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:04:33 +1000
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We had 26.8mm all up here, which isn't bad - good for winter anyway! 
Our total for June is 110.9mm so far, which is 50% higher then the June
average of 71mm.

There were some higher falls around...Cape Moreton received 90mm,
Enoggera received 105mm (? on this I would say...)  The same with Imbil
that received 128mm.  Cape Moreton undoubtedly received 90mm, (from
radar observations).  There was a widespread range (that hugged the
coast) of 20-40mm, some falls even made it further inland, but the
Darling Downs all had falls 10mm or under.

How much did you get, John W?

Lightning tracker has had almost continuous lightning since midday on
Tuesday, however it never peaked very high (35 whites was the highest
from the Ballina storm)

Not bad for winter though!  Another upper level trough + cold pool
should come through around late Sat/Sun - we should get some more
showers again, with a fair chance there'll be imbedded t'storms
(possibly more then what we had in the last two days, because we have a
moister airmass established over us now).  MRF still has lots of
vorticity over us coming through...but I'd be happier if I could at
least see NGP vorticity!!!  Did anyone ever get a reply back from FMNOC
on the NGP issue?  I never did...

Anthony from Brisbane

Jason Smith wrote:
> 
> Had 31mm at Kenmore yesterday, with some very heavy rain during the origin
> There's still a fair amount of water laying around - probably can't soak
> through the permafrost.....
> 
> Looks like June is another month with above average rainfall.
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Hi All,

26mm of lovely Hydrogen monoxide in the guage for the 24 hrs to 9:00am this 
morning.  That's good rain for this location at this time of year.

John.

p.s., surely that wasn't 'queenslander...' that I heard in the distance 
from you Anthony, last night when I went out to check out the rain???



  
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Raining here now. Exactly the same patter as yesterday. Quite mild this morning
(even consider it warm...)

Strange day really...................

Great game last night by the way. Shows how even the teams were.

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:49:56 -0700
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Interesting Steve,

We saw the most brilliant rainbow ever up here in Blackheath on Tuesday,
I think. We bumped into our neighbour on the way home from the shops (we
were walking) and she said she had never seen a rainbow like it and she
has lived here almost 20 years. You could see the whole arch and the
color was just amazingly vivid with the mirror version just above it.
Sadly, I didn't have my camera with me at the time. :-(


Lindsay Pearce

steve baynham wrote:
> 
> hi all, just got back from a short test drive in the new car, well not new,
> bloody old hand me down!
>         saw the weirdest rainbow ever! most rainbows have big arches, this one was
> very narrow, only a few degrees off the ground, seemed to have more yellow
> in it than any other colour aswell. unfortunately i didn't have my camera
> on me, and i thinks its gone already! but thats something for us to ponder
> about. any one have any theories?
> steve from the cold goast
> 
>


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Hi all,

You might want to have a browse of the rainbows on our site to see if
anything similar is shown:
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/rainbo01.htm
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/rainbo02.htm
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/rainbo03.htm

Quite a flat rainbow appears in the 4 sequence shot at the bottom of page
one, with the nuclear explosion storm cloud. Check this one too for a small
funnel:
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1994/0117mb0
5.jpg

An unusual wintry one occurring in the last part of a cumulus which has
become  virga (please excuse the poor focus, taken through a window with an
auto camera):
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1996/0719mb0
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Ok,

I will try and have a cack at this. What I have seen before is similar and
will occur during the morning or evening period. This means that it takes a
certain angle with respect to your eye to get such a rainbow. These are not
common but nor rare. You would need the precipitation to be away from you
on the opposite side of the sun and at a certain angle to you. This then
means it will occur closer to the horizon. Other more tradional rainbows
will occur during the afternoon period and or morning period with the sun
higher in the sky.

Is this what happened?

If you want strange rainbows, try the night rainbow?? Yepp that's right
.... and I am not drunk. I once awoke around 3 to 4am to see a rainbow.
Thought I was dreaming, thought I saw a UFO which I didn't believe in? Then
I noticed the moon was in full but setting behind the house. There was also
a light shower that was occurring and clearing and the cloud breaking. This
explains it.

Believe me, the eyes are an important tool in meteorology and so you must
be alert and very observant.

Jimmy Deguara

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>hi all, just got back from a short test drive in the new car, well not new,
>bloody old hand me down!
>	saw the weirdest rainbow ever! most rainbows have big arches, this one was
>very narrow, only a few degrees off the ground, seemed to have more yellow
>in it than any other colour aswell. unfortunately i didn't have my camera
>on me, and i thinks its gone already! but thats something for us to ponder
>about. any one have any theories?
>steve from the cold goast
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:04:11 +1000
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..

I had 28mm out of the rain last night, and occasional thunder from about
7pm onwards.. this brings my rainfall to 150mm so far this month.. not
too shabby at all.. 

Jason Smith wrote:
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> Had 31mm at Kenmore yesterday, with some very heavy rain during the origin
> There's still a fair amount of water laying around - probably can't soak
> through the permafrost.....
> 
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> Pommy
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A few more of Lindsays' snow pics have been added:
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Hi every1,

I can't shed any light on the 'strange rainbow' thread but I can say I saw 
something this morning I've never seen before...

It was about 8.30 a.m. and in a moderate fog. I was actually peering at the 
sun to see if I could 'spot' any sunspots (not recommeneded by the way...it 
was still way too bright!) but couldn't see much.

As I pulled my car into the carpark facing away from the sun I noticed a 
pale white (whiter and thicker than the fog - not just a tautology) bow 
about 20 degrees above ground. There was no colour, just a whiter than 
surrounding fog bow going from ground to ground at an indeterminate 
distance. It persisted while I watched but eventually I had to go to class..

Any thoughts here?

Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.




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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:33:55 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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It might have been a false or 'mock' sun on the fog, like you get on
high cirrus clouds.


Kevin Phyland wrote:
> 
> Hi every1,
> 
> I can't shed any light on the 'strange rainbow' thread but I can say I saw
> something this morning I've never seen before...
> 
> It was about 8.30 a.m. and in a moderate fog. I was actually peering at the
> sun to see if I could 'spot' any sunspots (not recommeneded by the way...it
> was still way too bright!) but couldn't see much.
> 
> As I pulled my car into the carpark facing away from the sun I noticed a
> pale white (whiter and thicker than the fog - not just a tautology) bow
> about 20 degrees above ground. There was no colour, just a whiter than
> surrounding fog bow going from ground to ground at an indeterminate
> distance. It persisted while I watched but eventually I had to go to class..
> 
> Any thoughts here?
> 
> Cheers,
> Kevin from Wycheproof.
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:57:59 +0930
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From: Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: strange bow and rainbows
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As an avid amateur astronomer I have seen many of these events during the
past years, the light coloured  fog bow you saw was indeed a rainbow except
in fog so you could say  it was a fogbow, as you would know fog is water
saturated air which is very similar to rain except finer. The lack of
colour in the bow would suggest that it was fairly low and therefore the
sun was in the thicker part of the atmosphere. As the atmosphere thickens
less colour is refracted inside rain and fog. Now going from ground to
ground, cant say what that is, were you inside your car at the time? 







At 20:33 24/06/99 +1000, you wrote:
>It might have been a false or 'mock' sun on the fog, like you get on
>high cirrus clouds.
>
>
>Kevin Phyland wrote:
>> 
>> Hi every1,
>> 
>> I can't shed any light on the 'strange rainbow' thread but I can say I saw
>> something this morning I've never seen before...
>> 
>> It was about 8.30 a.m. and in a moderate fog. I was actually peering at the
>> sun to see if I could 'spot' any sunspots (not recommeneded by the way...it
>> was still way too bright!) but couldn't see much.
>> 
>> As I pulled my car into the carpark facing away from the sun I noticed a
>> pale white (whiter and thicker than the fog - not just a tautology) bow
>> about 20 degrees above ground. There was no colour, just a whiter than
>> surrounding fog bow going from ground to ground at an indeterminate
>> distance. It persisted while I watched but eventually I had to go to class..
>> 
>> Any thoughts here?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Kevin from Wycheproof.
>> 
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From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: strange rainbow
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:55:03 +1000
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Hi Steve and all,

Some info from a great weather book I have. A rainbow forms it's greatest arc
when the sun is close to the horizon. The higher the sun, the flatter the
rainbow will be, until the sun rises higher than 42� above the horizon, when it
disappears altogether.

I have also seen a few fogbows in the last few years, a couple of them from
airplanes, where I saw one as a full circle! I have a photo of a fogbow, but it
is not in an album, so it's sitting in one of a kazillion packets of rejected
photos that didn't make it into the albums! Not sure why this is so with this
photo! If anyone's dreadfully keen, I can attempt the brave mission to retrieve
it. Though, knowing me, I'll probably end up doing that anyway, now that my
curiosity is sparked. Rest assured that I shan't sleep until my quest is
complete!

I've crapped on enough.

Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
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-----Original Message-----
From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Date: Thursday, 24 June 1999 11:10
Subject: aus-wx: strange rainbow


>hi all, just got back from a short test drive in the new car, well not new,
>bloody old hand me down!
> saw the weirdest rainbow ever! most rainbows have big arches, this one was
>very narrow, only a few degrees off the ground, seemed to have more yellow
>in it than any other colour aswell. unfortunately i didn't have my camera
>on me, and i thinks its gone already! but thats something for us to ponder
>about. any one have any theories?
>steve from the cold goast
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