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001 Patrick_Tobin at ama.com.au Snow in Canberra?
002 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Oberon - blowing snow
003 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Oberon - blowing snow
004 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Snow
005 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Snow
006 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Snow
007 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au] Snow in Canberra?
008 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Snow
009 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Oberon - blowing snow
010 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Snow
011 "Craig Williams" [tincra at ecn.net.au] Worm virus information
012 Patrick Tobin [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Re: Cold Air Vortex
013 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Re: Cold Air Vortex
014 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Snow
015 "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au] MSC updates
016 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Brisbane Suburbs Could go Below 0 Tonight
017 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au] MSC updates
018 "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz] Snowfalls
019 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Snowfalls
020 disarm at braenet.com.au current obs
021 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Snow
022 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Good frost in Schofields
023 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] T shirts - nag No3 (FINAL EDITION! - just on the offchance y
024 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Re: Cold Air Vortex
025 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Good frost in Schofields
026 Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org] Sydney Socail Night....
027 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au] Brisbane Suburbs Could go Below 0 Tonight
028 Matt Smith[disarm at braenet.com.au] End Of Year Storm Chase.
029 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] RE: tropical activity
030 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au] Brisbane Suburbs Could go Below 0 Tonight
031 Patrick Tobin [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Brisbane Suburbs Could go Below 0 Tonight
032 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Good frost in Schofields
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There have been anecdotal reports on the radio of snow falling in Kambah
(southern Canberra suburb) over the last hour (ie between 4 and 5pm 15/6/99).
I saw the cloud concerned which looked like it had solid precipitation falling
pretty close to ground level (from my location in Barton, I couldn't actually
see the precipitation falling at ground level). To give these reports greater
credence, I would have liked to have seen the airport temp lower than the 6 that
was showing at 1600. The airport is, however, further from the ranges and in a
much sunnier position in the SW stream than the southern and western suburbs.
So a 2 or 3 degree temperature discrepancy is certainly possible. Also the cloud
in question was fairly significant (even had an anvil) so there could have been
a
cold outflow effect as well.
In its 1530 issue, the BoM has forecast the possibility of snow falls in
Canberra tonight. The low cloud tops suggest any falls will be light.
Patrick
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:34:54 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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I was there (Oberon/Shooters Hill) on Monday morning Blair and I would
tend to think it was falling snow in high winds, as I was watching it do
that yesterday. Then again, I am an amateur at this, so I'm reticent to
say too much. Now that I have had my "Lost" camera returned I should
have the shots of this "Blowing snow" to show all and sundry. It'll take
me a little while to do this as I have to send the pics to Melbourne as
I don't have a scanner. They put them on disk for me, cheaply.
Lindsay Pearce
Blair Trewin wrote:
>
> Oberon was reporting blowing snow and dry-bulb of 1 at 1500. The maximum
> was listed as 7, but I don't believe it.
>
> Not often you see a report of blowing snow outside the alpine area.
> (Of course, it may be that the observer is actually reporting falling
> snow in high winds - they were reporting 56 km/h - as opposed to
> blowing snow, when snow already on the ground is being blown
> around).
>
> As an aside, I once saw a Canadian forecast which issued a warning
> of 'blowing snot'!
>
> Blair Trewin
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:36:34 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Yeah, it was a coupla degrees colder at Oberon on Monday at least, when
compared to Blackheath at the same time of day.
Lindsay Pearce
Michael Scollay wrote:
>
> Blair Trewin wrote:
> >
> > Oberon was reporting blowing snow and dry-bulb of 1 at 1500. The maximum
> > was listed as 7, but I don't believe it.
>
> Particularly when Katoomba reported 4 and Orange 3, one usually
> gets a 0 or 1 at Oberon under these conditions. I wonder if the
> observer was blowing on the thermometer to see if it was working
> OK:-)
>
> [snip]
>
> Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:54:31 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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You lucky thing you with that 4wd!
I wasn't expecting to go to Oberon as I suffer from ME/CFS so my energy
levels are up and down and I also have a lot of work to do in preparing
my manuscript for an agent but hey, I got the bug, and nicked off to
Oberon. One of the best shots I took is of me (I met two young women on
the road out to Shooters - they actually took it) squatting in heaps of
snow and another standing among the pines. I think it will give
perspective on the amount of snow, up against me, if I send that one
into Michael. The macro shots I've got of snow (maybe drift snow
although it was in an open space) show my foot marks as I put them into
the snow to hopefully indicate some sort of depth and then there's the
car skid marks! Remember, I left the Shooters H. area whilst it was
still snowing heavily, so I don't know how much more fell. God it was so
much fun! I tried to get good shots of the heavy falling snow from all
angles too and basically endeavoured to take lots of shots that folk
much more expert than me can analyse and observe - and commment on.
REgards,
Lindsay Pearce.
Michael Scollay wrote:
>
> Lindsay wrote:
> >
> > Well, what a day in Oberon and South of Oberon today, Monday the 14th.
> > ... Inches and inches of fallling snow in the township itself
> > and huge dumps near shooters hill.
> > ...
> > Sure, there was more snow on the Alps but to see this much snow
> > on the Central Tablelands was just great. I really should leave
> > the pictures to tell the story so as not to exaggerate the
> > situation but I have macro shots of snow close to me knees in
> > depth, if i remember correctly. Total white out in the surrounding
> > landscape and thick snow, at least for here. There was inches and
> > inches of snow piled on cars and roads were very icy and snowy.
> > But...I'll let the photos do the rest of the talking, when I
> > eventually get them processed.
>
> You took the words out of my mouth, Lindsay. Pity you didn't
> use Jimmy's "snow chasing" thread as that was what I replied
> to. Next time, take some chains. Your account triggers memories
> of my ventures into that region when the really good snow comes
> in Those sort of chains with the herringbone pattern that the
> snow-ploughs use:-) I had an an ex-Bathurst-racing Alfasud
> with a limited-slip-diff and a set of -those- chains that only
> ground to a halt with snow much deeper than the front air dam
> (30cm+). That was about 5km short of Shooters Hill back in 1981. Sometimes, there can be just too much snow on the road and the
> car couldn't push it away. The only problem I found was that
> when I could go no further, turning around was a problem as
> I couldn't see the road limits. Now with a 4WD equipped with
> diff-lock and 2 sets of cross-hatch herringbone chains...
>
> Welcome your pics - hurry!:-)
>
> Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:56:03 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Good observations Michael, I'm learning al the time.
Lindsay P.
Michael Thompson wrote:
>
> My guess is that the great divide is out Oberon way, not as many think in
> the Blue Mountains, if the wind was more SW it would be different, but what
> little moisture the air has had has been squeezed out on the slopes around
> Oberon. At Katoomba you are only lifting again what has already been lifted
> and wrung out. It would also be different if the moisture was not so
> shallow, you may have noticed that cloud tops were low and that there was a
> complete lack of middle layer clouds.
>
> Michael
>
> > Laurier, have you had a chance to look out over Oberon way from the
> > lookouts? Do you know what that mountain is covered in snow that is
> > virtually due west? From Mount Boyce Lookout you can get a good glimpse
> > of the snow cover out that way.
> >
> > Why is it that the cloud, even today when it is fine here, is sitting
> > atop the range out Oberon way and not here? Does the slightly more
> > west/nw wind flow have something to do with it? It was even snowing in
> > Lowther/Goodforest yesterday, blizzard like actually and only flurries
> > here in Blackheath.
> >
> > We had some pretty nice flurries last night here in Blackheath but
> > NOTHING like out Oberon way.
> >
> > Currently at 8:40 am in Blackheath it is 1 degree and -1 wetbulb nad
> > very windy.
> >
> > Lindsay P.
> >
> >
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:08:07 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Fantastic stuff Laurier,
That's just a great representation of the vagaries of snowy weather up
here. My little brain laps it up. Thanks muchly. Just one other thing,
so what was the wind direction/conditions of that significant fall we
had last year that left snow on the ground, in August i think?
Lindsay Pearce
PS: i thought it was mount Bindo but I figured you would know more. Bye-
the-way, if you see a guy wearing black in an old dark blue Toyota
corona at any of our lookouts, it's me or someone who has recently stole
my car and left me naked somewhere. :-)
Laurier Williams wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 04:55:35 -0700, Lindsay
> wrote:
>
> >Laurier, have you had a chance to look out over Oberon way from the
> >lookouts? Do you know what that mountain is covered in snow that is
> >virtually due west? From Mount Boyce Lookout you can get a good glimpse
> >of the snow cover out that way.
> >
> Hi Lindsay
>
> That's Mt Bindo, 1363 metres, due west of Medlow Bath and NE from
> Oberon. Another mountain worth knowing is Mt Trickett, 1362m, which
> the Oberon to Jenolan Caves road goes right over the top of, before
> descending to the caves -- there's a repeater station on the left that
> marks the summit. These are the highest points on the Great Dividing
> Range in this area by some margin, with other peaks only around 1250m
> or so. Mt Trickett, being so accessible, is a good place to judge
> snowfall -- if you can get there!
>
> >Why is it that the cloud, even today when it is fine here, is sitting
> >atop the range out Oberon way and not here? Does the slightly more
> >west/nw wind flow have something to do with it? It was even snowing in
> >Lowther/Goodforest yesterday, blizzard like actually and only flurries
> >here in Blackheath.
> >
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At 4pm when that cell came through the temp dropped to 3.5 in Scullin.
I was driving through it and there were very large, heavy soft pieces
of ice coming down with the rain.
Just went for a drive up into the Brindies - very nice!
Chris
At 17:07 15/06/99 , you wrote:
>
>
>There have been anecdotal reports on the radio of snow falling in Kambah
>(southern Canberra suburb) over the last hour (ie between 4 and 5pm 15/6/99).
>
>I saw the cloud concerned which looked like it had solid precipitation
falling
>pretty close to ground level (from my location in Barton, I couldn't actually
>see the precipitation falling at ground level). To give these reports greater
>credence, I would have liked to have seen the airport temp lower than the
6 that
>was showing at 1600. The airport is, however, further from the ranges and
in a
>much sunnier position in the SW stream than the southern and western suburbs.
>So a 2 or 3 degree temperature discrepancy is certainly possible. Also the
cloud
>in question was fairly significant (even had an anvil) so there could have
been
>a
>cold outflow effect as well.
>
>In its 1530 issue, the BoM has forecast the possibility of snow falls in
>Canberra tonight. The low cloud tops suggest any falls will be light.
>
>Patrick
>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:58:32 GMT
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Thanks for the detailed Blue Mountains snow information, Michael.
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:04:51 +1000, Michael Scollay
wrote:
>Laurier Williams wrote on Tue, 15 Jun 1999 03:03:50 GMT:
>
>> On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 04:55:35 -0700, Lindsay
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Laurier, have you had a chance to look out over Oberon way from the
>> >lookouts? Do you know what that mountain is covered in snow that is
>> >virtually due west? From Mount Boyce Lookout you can get a good glimpse
>> >of the snow cover out that way.
>> >
>> Hi Lindsay
>>
>> That's Mt Bindo, 1363 metres, due west of Medlow Bath and NE from
>> Oberon. Another mountain worth knowing is Mt Trickett, 1362m, which
>> the Oberon to Jenolan Caves road goes right over the top of...
>
>Not quite, Laurier. The road goes between the two hills with
>fire trails (and private road) heading off toward the "summits"
>of Mt Bindo (I think) sown heavy with radiata pine plantations
>and the microwave repeater site on Mt Trickett (I think) poking
>out from above the tree tops.
>
We may be confusing our mountains, Michael. Mt Bindo is 4km west of
the junction where the Oberon Road turns west off the Hartley--Jenolan
Caves Road, and is accessible by the fire trail that takes off from
the picnic area at the road junction. Bindo has a fire tower and
transmitter on its peak, and there's a small secondary peak (unnamed,
I think) about 2km to the south. The main fire trail goes between the
two.
Mt Trickett is some 18km SSW of Mt Bindo, and is a fairly
insignificant bump on the main ridge line that connects the Shooters
Hill high country with the high country around Jenolan State Forest.
The Oberon to Jenolan Caves Road passes along the top of this ridge,
with great views to the south into the Hollanders River valley. It's
worth knowing for snow-chasers, because it is, I think, the highest
mainish road in the area, and about 100m higher than the Oberon --
Shooters Hill Road.
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Laurier Williams
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Oberon - blowing snow
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:58:27 GMT
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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:42:02 +1000, Ben Munro
wrote:
>At 07:13 15-06-99 GMT, Laurier Williams wrote:
>>Mt Boyce AWS
>>winds also need to be treated with some caution as the station, which
>>is right opposite the truck checking station, is perched atop a steep
>>slope to the west, below which is an unbroken cliff line. It seldom
>>seems to report true westerlies -- in fact the direction it's been
>>reporting has been glued on 250 degrees for days, though the wind has
>>swung from WNW to W, then about 230 or 240 in the past few hours.
>
>The Mount Boyce AWS is opposite the truck checking station? do you mean the
>weighing station at Bell? That's quite a distance from mount boyce.
>
No, the truck weighing/checking station about 1km past Blackheath --
it's virtually right on Mt Boyce. There are two in the Mountains --
the Bell one for trucks using Bells Line of Road, and the Mt Boyce one
for trucks using the Great Western Highway.
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:58:48 GMT
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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:08:07 -0700, Lindsay
wrote:
>Fantastic stuff Laurier,
>
>That's just a great representation of the vagaries of snowy weather up
>here. My little brain laps it up. Thanks muchly. Just one other thing,
>so what was the wind direction/conditions of that significant fall we
>had last year that left snow on the ground, in August i think?
>
What date, Lindsay, and I'll look it up. I think it was one I missed,
as I was in Sydney at the time (grrrrrr...)
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Subject: aus-wx: Worm virus information
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:09:11 +1000
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:16:13 PDT
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>If you animate today's IR satpix (the JCU colourised ones show it quite
>well), there's a lovely little cold air vortex which develops around Cape
>Otway on the 1800z image, then gets its act together as it
>crosses the Snowy Mountains on the 03z image before blowing apart on
>the 06z image.
Thanks Laurier for pointing this out - the passage of the vortex
over Canberra was obviously associated with the cells that
developed here during the afternoon and resulted in the
anecdotal observations of snow or the more likely (as identified
by Chris M) falls of soft hail in the Canberra suburbs.
>The latest MesoLAPS actually *tightens* the SW gradient along the NSW
>coast and tablelands tonight, with fairly wavy isobars, so I think
>there's the possibility of some snowshowers for the tablelands tonight
>as these small troughs sweep through. It's certainly cold enough --
Now I understand why the BoM forecast possible snow in the Canberra
suburbs.
I don't think there was any further precipitation in Canberra
overnight after the passage of the vortex. Conditions are
noticeable clearing with much lighter winds and lifting cloud
base. Some snow still visibly streaming out of the sc along the
higher ranges (around 1500-1600m).
Canberra airport minimum of -3 was reported as +3 on ABC radio
this morning - only a 6 degree discrepancy!!
Patrick
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>Canberra airport minimum of -3 was reported as +3 on ABC radio
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>Patrick
The Today show news report said temps in Singleton last night dipped below
0 (kosovo refugee storey) yet the 9am wx bulletin min in singleton was 6.
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:49:54 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Laurier Williams wrote on Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:58:32 GMT:
>
[snip]
> >> Hi Lindsay
> >>
> >> That's Mt Bindo, 1363 metres, due west of Medlow Bath and NE from
> >> Oberon. Another mountain worth knowing is Mt Trickett, 1362m, which
> >> the Oberon to Jenolan Caves road goes right over the top of...
> >
> >Not quite, Laurier. The road goes between the two hills with
> >fire trails (and private road) heading off toward the "summits"
> >of Mt Bindo (I think) sown heavy with radiata pine plantations
> >and the microwave repeater site on Mt Trickett (I think) poking
> >out from above the tree tops.
> >
> We may be confusing our mountains, Michael. Mt Bindo is 4km west of
> the junction where the Oberon Road turns west off the Hartley--Jenolan
> Caves Road, and is accessible by the fire trail that takes off from
> the picnic area at the road junction. Bindo has a fire tower and
> transmitter on its peak, and there's a small secondary peak (unnamed,
> I think) about 2km to the south. The main fire trail goes between the
> two.
You're right again, Laurier. I thought it was the hill 2km
south of Mt Bindo that was Mt. Trickett and you were
describing that the Hartley-Jenolan Caves Rd to Oberon road
went over the top of Mt. Trickett near Mt. Bindo! My
topograhic maps are in Katoomba but you've jogged my
memory of touring the Mt. Trickett area years ago during
another snow-chase. Nevertheless, it's a great snow-chase
area so close to Sydney if you know when and where to go.
> Mt Trickett is some 18km SSW of Mt Bindo, and is a fairly
> insignificant bump on the main ridge line that connects the Shooters
> Hill high country with the high country around Jenolan State Forest.
> The Oberon to Jenolan Caves Road passes along the top of this ridge,
> with great views to the south into the Hollanders River valley. It's
> worth knowing for snow-chasers, because it is, I think, the highest
> mainish road in the area, and about 100m higher than the Oberon --
> Shooters Hill Road.
Yes, I remember playing golf at Katoomba Golf Course one
Saturday (1981 I think) after there'd been a string of days
where Katoomba could only muster -1 to 2, -1 to 3, 0 to 4,
0 to 4, 0 to 4 for perhaps a week just like the event we've
just witnessed. It dumped snow out Oberon way. A couple of
chaps pulled up in their car as I was about to tee off from
the 4th hole (which backs to Cliff Drive) asking if the road
they were on was heading towards the highway (it does). They
had touring skis on their car roof to which I commented
"arn't you a bit off-course for the ski fields? I can see
some snow on the Central Tablelands. Is that where you're
going?". Their answer was yes as they were meeting some
mates from Bathurst who had been skiing in the region
of Shooters Hill during that week! That's not hard to
imagine with over 30cm of packed snow as would be the
case this coming weekend also if it doesn't warm up too
much - Here's hoping!
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Hello Jane - A lot seems to have been happening on the Vic front of Aussie Weather. Congratulations, I like your style and your attitude. Goes far deeper than only storm chasing - and I do not intend any disrespect to anyone in Aussie Weather.
I'vw been out of things for the past month - nasty heart attack put me away, and the ambulance drivers didn't want to wait while I unsubscibed to lists. My son in law retrieved 800+ messages a few days later, misunderstood my request and deleted them all. He did unsubscribe from some lists, but when I got home Monday there were 1770 emails waiting. Must say I deleted most without much of a glimpse into them - but kept your memory lane gem.
)h, I'm sposed to keep it to weather - hmmm. Nice sunny morning in Mulgrave this morning.
Cheers
Nandina
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> Photos of part 1 of today's Sea to the Mountains chase (report coming)
> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/14_6_99.htm
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Brisbane Suburbs Could go Below 0 Tonight
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:03:06 +1000
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Hi Anthony,
Ah well it didn't at Mt. Crosby - too much wind. Recorded a 7.0C this
morning, following an 8.0C for yesterday morning (which again was warmer
than Brisbane Airport - strange eh).
Regards,
John.
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Subject: aus-wx: Brisbane Suburbs Could go Below 0 Tonight
Hi all,
I would not be surprised if some of the Brisbane suburbs go below 0
tonight, as of 7:35pm, it was 10.8C, (that's already 0.1C below average
of the June min!) The DP is 2C at the AP, but it is -1C here, and I
would suspect even lower as you go further inland (I live in the eastern
suburbs).
I have told my mum to wake me up if there is frost (I have never seen
frost in Brisbane before) As grass temperatures would likely to be
below 0C.
Well - I'm about to walk the dog now (wearing 3 jumpers and 2 pairs of
long pants) I hope I make it back without getting frostbite!!
Anthony the whinging Brisbanite from a BITTERLYCOLD Brisbane!
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Hey Nandina - hope you're feeling a little better!
Actually I don't think you missed too much - but the last week
has certainly been fun for us in the colder climes. I guess if
you want an update then just check out any of the snow cams and
you'll see what it is that has got us all excited.
Oh - and there was some stuff about the poor Brisbanites having
a hard time with the deep freeze they've been having. I think
one of them even had to put a second layer of clothing on. We've
organised a CARE package of woolly mittens and hot water bottles
for them ;)
cheers,
Chris
At 04:20 17/06/99 , you wrote:
>Hello Jane - A lot seems to have been happening on the Vic front of Aussie
Weather. Congratulations, I like your style and your attitude. Goes far
deeper than only storm chasing - and I do not intend any disrespect to
anyone in Aussie Weather.
>I'vw been out of things for the past month - nasty heart attack put me
away, and the ambulance drivers didn't want to wait while I unsubscibed to
lists. My son in law retrieved 800+ messages a few days later,
misunderstood my request and deleted them all. He did unsubscribe from
some lists, but when I got home Monday there were 1770 emails waiting.
Must say I deleted most without much of a glimpse into them - but kept your
memory lane gem.
>
>)h, I'm sposed to keep it to weather - hmmm. Nice sunny morning in
Mulgrave this morning.
>
>Cheers
>Nandina
>nandina at alphalink.com.au
>
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>>
>> Photos of 3.5 new members of ASWA Victoria
>> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/mug_shots.htm
>>
>> Geelong storm photos for 19th May 1999 (report coming)
>> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/19_5_99.htm
>>
>> Photos of part 1 of today's Sea to the Mountains chase (report coming)
>> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/14_6_99.htm
>>
>> Jane ONeill
>> ============================================================
>>
>> Jane ONeill Bayswater Melbourne cadence at rubix.net.au
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From: "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz]
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:53:43 +1200
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> > NZ MetService doesn't seem to be forecasting very cold weather for
> > Wednesday/Thursday, yet.
> >
> This outbreak has fizzled out - most models now seem to be bottoming
> out around 524-528.
Partly cloudy here in Christchurch, about 9 degrees C, and not much wind.
The cold, wet southerly change should hit soon, but no sign of it yet. Snow
is forecast down to about 400 - 500 metres (200 - 300 metres in the south).
Nothing like the polar blast earlier models suggested, but still a proper
cold outbreak. Anyway, the models I've seen suggest wintry southerly
conditions over NZ throughout next week.
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snowfalls
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>
>
>
> > > NZ MetService doesn't seem to be forecasting very cold weather for
> > > Wednesday/Thursday, yet.
> > >
> > This outbreak has fizzled out - most models now seem to be bottoming
> > out around 524-528.
>
> Partly cloudy here in Christchurch, about 9 degrees C, and not much wind.
> The cold, wet southerly change should hit soon, but no sign of it yet. Snow
> is forecast down to about 400 - 500 metres (200 - 300 metres in the south).
> Nothing like the polar blast earlier models suggested, but still a proper
> cold outbreak. Anyway, the models I've seen suggest wintry southerly
> conditions over NZ throughout next week.
>
> Ben Tichborne
> Christchurch
> NZ
GASP is once again going for 516 to reach Invercargill on Monday - and
this time the EC backs it up (and the UK, whose current run ends on
Sunday night, looks like it will). GASP also has the entire South
Island in sub-524 on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Blair Trewin
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Hi Everyone
These are the current obs for sydney by the BoM
CURRENT WEATHER DETAILS:
City Fine, cold
Mascot Fine, cold
Richmond Fine, frosty
Bankstown Fine, cold
This was issued at 12.57 .. frosty at Richmond ? somehow i doubt it with
current temp at the Richmond AWS is 14.7 degrees..
Just thought id comment on it..
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:38:16 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Oberon/Shooters Hills photos have been sent off, should be on National
Photos server within a few days for me to download.
Currently just under 2 degrees here at blackheath at 4:38pm with some
low cloud coming in and the wet bulb is nudging zero. Could be our
fourth night in a row of snow flurries/showers.
Lindsay Pearce.
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Hi Jimmy here,
We had out first good frost here in Schofields. It is one of the nice
things you wake up to in the morning with calm conditions, the dams
"smoking", and the widespread white. I didn't like the idea of not being
able to take the blankets with me!! Colldd. I think tonight will be colder
again with negative figures almost a certainty. It seems like this morning
was 0C or thereabouts. For those that don't know the ground temperatures
are always lower than the Stevenson Screen. This is why frost will occur
even at 4C and even 5C especially after you have had severe frost
previously. Griund temperatures can still go near or below zero.
Jimmy Deguara
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: T shirts - nag No3 (FINAL EDITION! - just on the offchance you've been away)
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>
> If you havent............
>
> please email me at cadence at rubix.net.au (NOT the list)
>
> with the following information:
>
> 1. polo neck or T-shirt? (you can have any colour so long as it is white
> )
>
> 2. preference for logo on left breast or back?
>
> 3. quantity
>
> 4. sizes (S / M / L / XL / XXL / XXXL)
>
Jane,
Oops - only just noticed this one (in the midst of 500 accumulated
e-mails...). I also can't remember if I gave you any details at the
ASWA meeting.
If not, my details are - T-shirt, left breast, 1, L.
Blair
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Haven't looked at the official figures but for Singleton to get a 0C would
require no wind and under a strong high, I think winds would have been
blowing in Singleton as with everywhere else on the east coast and that
would have stopped it getting a 0, perhaps 0 with wind chill factored ?
Michael
> The Today show news report said temps in Singleton last night dipped below
> 0 (kosovo refugee storey) yet the 9am wx bulletin min in singleton was 6.
> Makes you wonder doesnt it..
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Once again I am amazed the difference 100km can make, here in the Illawarra
at sunrise there was 20 knots of W wind blowing and 8C, certainly no chance
of frost.
This is something I observed many times when I used to commute to Sydney via
train, strong winds in the Illawarra and calm in Sydney.
Michael
> We had out first good frost here in Schofields. It is one of the nice
> things you wake up to in the morning with calm conditions, the dams
> "smoking", and the widespread white. I didn't like the idea of not being
> able to take the blankets with me!! Colldd. I think tonight will be colder
> again with negative figures almost a certainty. It seems like this morning
> was 0C or thereabouts. For those that don't know the ground temperatures
> are always lower than the Stevenson Screen. This is why frost will occur
> even at 4C and even 5C especially after you have had severe frost
> previously. Griund temperatures can still go near or below zero.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:38:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org]
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Hi everyone,
Could people in Sydney please let me know ASAP (directly - please do not
send to aussie-weather) if they would like to come out on Saturday night
to the movies and dinner. Please also let me know what films you would
like to see.
Cheers,
Paul G
m3052695 at hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au
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From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi John,
Yes...what a shameful forecadt! *Hangs head in shame*
It's currently freezing cold again...it was 10.3C about 30mins ago, but
the wind has come up again a bit and is now 11.1C. DP is 1C.
One thing people might want to note, ambulances have had to attend to
over a dozen people over the past 48hrs for people suffering
hypothermia...yet I know people in the states who will happily wear
shorts and t-shirt in this wx! Talk about climatizing :)
Anthony from Brisbane
John Woodbridge wrote:
>
> Hi Anthony,
>
> Ah well it didn't at Mt. Crosby - too much wind. Recorded a 7.0C this
> morning, following an 8.0C for yesterday morning (which again was warmer
> than Brisbane Airport - strange eh).
>
> Regards,
> John.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Cornelius [SMTP:cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 1999 19:42
> To: Australian Weather Mailing List
> Subject: aus-wx: Brisbane Suburbs Could go Below 0 Tonight
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would not be surprised if some of the Brisbane suburbs go below 0
> tonight, as of 7:35pm, it was 10.8C, (that's already 0.1C below average
> of the June min!) The DP is 2C at the AP, but it is -1C here, and I
> would suspect even lower as you go further inland (I live in the eastern
> suburbs).
>
> I have told my mum to wake me up if there is frost (I have never seen
> frost in Brisbane before) As grass temperatures would likely to be
> below 0C.
>
> Well - I'm about to walk the dog now (wearing 3 jumpers and 2 pairs of
> long pants) I hope I make it back without getting frostbite!!
>
> Anthony the whinging Brisbanite from a BITTERLYCOLD Brisbane!
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Hi Everyone
A new section has been added to the ASWA Members Area, about the up and
comming chase at the end of the year , with all details on the chase and
any updates/new info will be posted there.
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Clyve's just pointed out that there is still activity lingering over Timor &
to the north of Darwin 3 days later. As you say - unusual for this time of
year.
There's also an interesting development in the Bight - the system is very
complex according to the latest MSL chart.
http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/national/charts/synoptic.shtml
(bomw0007/aviation)
Jane ONeill
Bayswater, Melbourne
On Sunday, 13 June 1999 7:31
Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>Subject: aus-wx: tropical activity
>
>
>If you take a look at the activity just north of Cape York, you will find
>some activity which is unusual for this time of year. New Guinea has some
>storm scattered on its southern part. Very interesting.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
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At 20:30 16/06/99 , you wrote:
>One thing people might want to note, ambulances have had to attend to
>over a dozen people over the past 48hrs for people suffering
>hypothermia...yet I know people in the states who will happily wear
>shorts and t-shirt in this wx! Talk about climatizing :)
Hypothermia at 10C? Wow!!
It's expected to get up to 12C here tomorrow, so it's shorts and
T-shirt, hang the washing outside and catch some rays in the deck
chair time!
Chris
Chris Maunder (Canberra)
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[snip]
>One thing people might want to note, ambulances have had to attend to
>over a dozen people over the past 48hrs for people suffering
>hypothermia...yet I know people in the states who will happily wear
>shorts and t-shirt in this wx! Talk about climatizing :)
I remember some very cold nights staying with Brisbane friends
in those nice cute queenslanders in Winter...brr..brr..
It's currently 1.8 at 10.00pm in Higgins - noticed Cooma is
already -3. There will no doubt be Canberra people sitting out
on the footpaths enjoying their coffees etc at the moment as
they have all week with temps not getting anywhere near double
figures even in the middle of the day. Whilst people on the list
will no doubt have their views about Canberrans, I suspect the
indoor smoking ban has more than a little to do with such
behaviour. You need to be tough to indulge the weed down here!!
By the way the latest 144hr MRF looks very interesting for
early next week with a low developing over inland NSW and
cold air coming in from the SSE (bringing some of the NZ
cold outbreak into eastern NSW). NGP has the low more to the
NW with heavy rain on the northern NSW coast. Either of
these developments will no doubt generate a lot more
emails on this list...
Patrick
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:23:47 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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Minus 1.7 on the ground here this morning (minus 1.6 yesterday) and I'm
83m above MSL. Screen min. was 4.6.
The lowest grass min I ever had was minus 7.5 in July a few years back.
Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> Hi Jimmy here,
>
> We had out first good frost here in Schofields. It is one of the nice
> things you wake up to in the morning with calm conditions, the dams
> "smoking", and the widespread white. I didn't like the idea of not being
> able to take the blankets with me!! Colldd. I think tonight will be colder
> again with negative figures almost a certainty. It seems like this morning
> was 0C or thereabouts. For those that don't know the ground temperatures
> are always lower than the Stevenson Screen. This is why frost will occur
> even at 4C and even 5C especially after you have had severe frost
> previously. Griund temperatures can still go near or below zero.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
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