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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Sunday, 23 May 1999

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001 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Melbourne cold outbreak update
002 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Silent Sentinels...)
003 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Forecasting of CAPE + Understanding Skew-T's Page
004 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]              Re: NSW wx + Volcanoes
005 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]      Storm News
006 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Jet Stream charts now on Weather 21
007 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            Adelaide front?
008 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            Silent Sentinels...)
009 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Stormchase 98 update
010 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Melbourne cold outbreak update
011 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]       Stormchase 98 update
012 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]              Anthony's Skew-T page + Jimmy D's observations guide
013 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            Re: Adelaide wet!
014 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Storm News
015 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Silent Sentinels...)
016 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Melbourne cold outbreak update
017 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           RE: nicks
018 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]             (no subject)
019 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Kelsos
020 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]      TD(Should be TC?) Causes Local Gales in Brisbane

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne cold outbreak update
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:07:19 +1000
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Interesting articles and great pics, we rarely see clouds like those here.

How come Clyve has a nickname for almost everyone, but himself, any
suggestions !

Michael



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From: Jane ONeill [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne cold outbreak update


> I've added charts, radar & photos to the summary of Melbourne's cold
> outbreak last Saturday.
> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/15_5_99.htm
>
> The synoptic analysis of the October 1998 stormchase written by Clyve
> Herbert is also finally up.
> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/stormchase98.htm
>
> Jane ONeill
> Bayswater, Melbourne
> Melbourne Storm Chasers
> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: Volcanoes (was Re: aus-wx: Silent Sentinels...)
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:53:51 +1000
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I am very sure that ones in Victoria were the most recent, that aside it is
freaky to think that aboriginal Australians would have witnessed these
active lava flows in Australia. Caught the last few seconds of a news story
on Friday saying that a recent skeleton find at Lake Mungo may be 60,000
years old, and that Australia was possibly colonised by two distinct races.
Certainly some earlier TV shows I have seen of the ancient inhabitants
around western Victoria suggested a different race, one that was less
nomadic and whose settlements were based on a series of eel traps.

Imagine how different the climate was 60,000 years ago.

Michael


> Actually, I think the Glass House Mountains are the most recently active
> volcanoes in Australia. More like 5-10,000 years ago than millions. They
> are definitely of a similar age to the ones in SW victoria.
>
> Ben from Sydney
>
>
> At 08:56 22-05-99 +1000, you wrote:
> >
> >Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
> >
> >We actually have a group of dormant volcanoes approx 50k's NW of
> >Brisbane, wich we call "The Glasshouse Mountains".. although i think
> >they have been innactive for a bit more than 15 000 years, i think more
> >like a few million.. The lava flows from these volcanoes are found a
> >fair distance away from them (i guess) in Kingaroy and further west, and
> >also the City i live in - "Redcliffe" - is actually situated on an old
> >lava flow, and where the lava met the ocean we have these medium/large
> >Red Cliffes.. hence the name :)
>
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting of CAPE + Understanding Skew-T's Page
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:47:22 +1000
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The Illawarra is a smaller version of this to an extent. The Illawarra
coastal plain is only 2-10km wide before a steep ( cliff face at times )
escarpment that is 400m in the north but 700m high in the southern end.
Convection rarely occurs over the coastal plain, the Sydney Hailstorm being
a notable exception. I have always maintained that the sea breeze inversion
is culprit number 1. Our sea breezes can blow up to 30 knots but are
surprisingly shallow. Often at Moss Vale only 20kms back west from the
escarpment it is 5C warmer even though it is 600m higher.

Another thing about sea breezes that is slightly off topic is not only are
they shallow in vertical, but area as well, I once went on a all day fishing
expedition that went off the continental shelf about 20-30kms out to sea, if
fact you could only see the peaks of some mountains left on the west
horizon. It was calm and balmy most of the day, just light flutters. On
returning I noticed how the wind gradually picked up the closer we got to
shore, by the time we got back it was a typical 15 knot NE sea breeze. I
asked how long had it blowing and was told " all day ".

Michael



> This is really an analogous setup to SE QLD, a W'ly at the surface
> brings in huge temperature inversions, and ultimately lead to very
> strong caps.  One also has to remember that to the W of us, the terrain
> is generally higher, and wind coming from them would actually be around
> our 900mb level, and if it's in the high 30's out there, that explains
> the presence of some of the huge inversions that we've experienced.
>
> There are some things that can break the cap though (besides adding more
> moisture/heat at the surface, or cooler air at the cap level) ...such as
> cold fronts, convergence, confluence and orographic lifting.  This has
> also made me think about some of the setups we have in SE QLD, such as
> on high cap days, only the ranges appear to have thunderstorms form, and
> some of these look EXTREMELY strong, and they generally maintain their
> intensity and then they move off the range and collapse!  One of my
> thoughts that was, the orographic lifting from the mountain assisted in
> breaking the cap, it allowed for quick explosive development as it rose
> through the atmosphere, but then as it moved off the mountain, the
> orographic lifting was no longer present, and the updraft (while a small
> updraft would still be able to be maintained by the storm) was no longer
> able to break through the cap.  What I mean is that, no new development
> could occur, and certainly if you don't have the shear (which we rarely
> have on highly capped days) it won't have the organisation to continue,
> and with the small updraft, the downdraft will very quickly take over
> the thunderstorm, and it will collapse very quickly.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts on this?  Certainly any chance of a
> flanking line forming, would be diminished if the cap couldn't be
> broken.  Or, are we just talking lack of shear here in these situations?
> (which is another vital factor in these situations)  A classic "Darwin
> Syndrome" where thunderstorms structually look strong, and momentarily
> become severe, but collapse quickly without the presence of a mid-upper
> level jet.
>
> Anthony Cornelius
>
> Laurier Williams wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 21 May 1999 11:40:46 +1000, Anthony Cornelius
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > I've
> > >done a small webpage on how you can create a CAPE forecast using
> > >forecast Skew-T's -
> >
> > Small. SMALL?!?
> >
> > You've put a lot onto that page, Anthony, and it really is a great
> > explanation of a complex area. And with aussie examples, too. Well
> > done!
> >
> > Laurier Williams
> > Australian Weather Links and News
> > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:21:28 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..

Yeah Ben, i said they were Dormant too.. i actually think they are
extinct :) I read that they have been inactive for millions of years in
a travel brochure, wouldn't be surprised if it was wrong..

Things look like they might be interesting for NSW in the next few days
hey? The models have really latched onto this next system coming across,
UNISYS AVN yesterday looked like a warzone for the southern states!
Keeping in mind that the models are all over the place at this time of
year, and have already changed a few aspects of the situation
considerably, i think NSW and VIC is the place to be over the next 48-60
hours.. The whole system looks like it will slip south of us.. i'm not
too worried as we've had a pretty good run up here the last few weeks..

Weather in Brisbane, pretty dull.. only a few mm's from periods of light
rain/drizzle overnight and early this morning..

Ben Munro wrote:
> 
> Actually, I think the Glass House Mountains are the most recently active
> volcanoes in Australia. More like 5-10,000 years ago than millions. They
> are definitely of a similar age to the ones in SW victoria.
> 
> Ben from Sydney
> 
> At 08:56 22-05-99 +1000, you wrote:
> >
> >Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
> >
> >We actually have a group of dormant volcanoes approx 50k's NW of
> >Brisbane, wich we call "The Glasshouse Mountains".. although i think
> >they have been innactive for a bit more than 15 000 years, i think more
> >like a few million.. The lava flows from these volcanoes are found a
> >fair distance away from them (i guess) in Kingaroy and further west, and
> >also the City i live in - "Redcliffe" - is actually situated on an old
> >lava flow, and where the lava met the ocean we have these medium/large
> >Red Cliffes.. hence the name :)
> 
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:07:24 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi all,

Just a reminder that if you would like to have your
article/report/photo's considered for Storm News to please email them to
me ASAP.  Please note that if you have posted a report/URL to the list,
this has already been recorded.  I understand that sometimes evens can
happen late in the month, and people are trying to get reports ready, so
there will be a 5 day le-way for this (June 5th) anything after this,
will be included in the next issue of Storm News.

I understand Jason or Keith you were going to do a report on TC Vance? 
If you could email this to me, it would be great.  I also don't have any
reports from Perth (latest severe t'storm) - it only needs to be brief. 

After this issue of Storm News, the timing will change slightly, instead
of an issue covering an entire season (eg Autumn, March + April + May)
the cutoffs will change, to 10 days before the end of the season, for
example, Feb 18-28 + March + April + May 1-21.  This way, Storm News
will generally be out much more punctually.

State Reps - I'm still waiting on a list of addresses of all the
financial members in your state, I need to know how many issues of Storm
News will need to be printed + sent out, so I can budget with Michael
Scollay.

Anthony Cornelius
Storm News Editor
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Jet Stream charts now on Weather 21
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 18:17:12 PDT
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Hi Mark!

Great to hear the Je-stream analyses are a goer!! It's worth my entire 
AUSTAR bill just to keep getting Weather21!!

Keep up the good work!

Kevin from Wycheproof.

>From: "Mark Hardy" 
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: 
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Jet Stream charts now on Weather 21
>Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 13:53:07 +1000
>
>Michael
>Thanks for the feedback. We've decided to go with a simplified jetstream to
>show viewers the movement of upper systems and also to help the explanation
>of system movement and development, northwest cloud bands, blocking highs
>and so on. Glad to hear you like it. Will be more or less easing these in 
>to
>allow the presenters time to understand the concepts. Should be a regular
>feature soon.
>
>Would like to also have a graphical warnings system and we are talking to
>BoM about this. For it to be effective it really needs to be a automatic
>system. In the US warnings are coded with county numbers and/or lat/lon
>watch boxes. Both of these can easily be converted into a graphical 
>display.
>We have suggested to the BoM to add a line in their warnings message which
>contains district numbers or another coded form of warning area 
>description.
>This is concept is currently being considered internally. Once this is
>provided within the warning in a consistent format we will implement
>graphical warnings.
>
>Thanks again, Mark
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Thompson 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Friday, 21 May 1999 22:50
>Subject: aus-wx: Jet Stream charts now on Weather 21
>
>
>|Just noticed a new jet stream chart on weather 21, great stuff. The chart
>is
>|not as complex as those on the US models, but is an advantage if you have
>to
>|chase and run, or you want to get a quick overview.
>|
>|I hope the next step is some sort of weather warnings charts with say 
>areas
>|under a severe storm advice shaded, like the US weather channel.
>|
>|If you are reading this Mark, keep up the good work.
>|
>|Michael Thompson
>|http://thunder.simplenet.com
>|
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:42:39 +0930
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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
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>Hi all,
>
>Not sure if this email will get through, if anyone has radar access can you
>please send me radar images of Adelaide at approx 6:50am local time, we
>just had a small t/storm here with heavy falls of rain, this rain was
>associated with the second cold front that was supossed to have moved
>through here later on today (22/5/99). I only saw one bit of sheet
>lightning and heard one clap of thunder about 5 seconds afterwards. On Am
>radio there have been heaps of activity with static, so i guess most of it
>is out of eye reach.


Got the rain here in St Peters, no sign of a storm.  It's still very warm
and the airstream is still from the north, perhaps we got a bit of a pre
frontal trough through this morning and the front is still to come?

Off to check the radar.

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
Subject: Re: Volcanoes (was Re: aus-wx: Silent Sentinels...)
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>Actually, I think the Glass House Mountains are the most recently active
>volcanoes in Australia. More like 5-10,000 years ago than millions. They
>are definitely of a similar age to the ones in SW victoria.
>
>Ben from Sydney

Actually Ben, I believe an eruption from Mt Gambier in South Australia has
been dated at only aound 3000y before present.  This may account for the
local Aboriginal oral tradition of the giant Kraitbul(sp?) who lit his
ovens in the crater, only to have the waters rise and put them out.  3000
years is nothing in geological terms, so I guess itse not impossible that
activity in the genereal area may recommence at some time in the near
future...??

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Stormchase 98 update
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along with just a bit of a site overhaul this morning ........

The Synoptic Description of the October 1998 stormchase is now up
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/98synoptic.htm


Comments re the site (preferably private if they're *that* bad ) would be
appreciated so I have a vague idea as to how it all looks to the rest of the
world.

Thanks guys,

Jane ONeill
Melbourne Storm Chasers
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:28:36 +1000
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne cold outbreak update
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Possible name for Clyve?

The hail traindriver!!

Jimmy Deguara

At 10:07 23/05/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Interesting articles and great pics, we rarely see clouds like those here.
>
>How come Clyve has a nickname for almost everyone, but himself, any
>suggestions !
>
>Michael
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Jane ONeill 
>To: Aussie Weather 
>Sent: Saturday, 22 May 1999 20:25
>Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne cold outbreak update
>
>
>> I've added charts, radar & photos to the summary of Melbourne's cold
>> outbreak last Saturday.
>> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/15_5_99.htm
>>
>> The synoptic analysis of the October 1998 stormchase written by Clyve
>> Herbert is also finally up.
>> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/stormchase98.htm
>>
>> Jane ONeill
>> Bayswater, Melbourne
>> Melbourne Storm Chasers
>> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Stormchase 98 update
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:08:13 +1000
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Hi Jane,

Youve done a fantastic job. Keep up the good work.

By the way I should have the NSW Storm Chasers site up soon. Still doing
some finishing touches to it.

Matthew Piper

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Subject: aus-wx: Stormchase 98 update


> along with just a bit of a site overhaul this morning ........
>
> The Synoptic Description of the October 1998 stormchase is now up
> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/98synoptic.htm
>
>
> Comments re the site (preferably private if they're *that* bad ) would
be
> appreciated so I have a vague idea as to how it all looks to the rest of
the
> world.
>
> Thanks guys,
>
> Jane ONeill
> Melbourne Storm Chasers
> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:11:37 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey..

Just letting everyone know that Anthony's Skew-T page has been shifted
to the education section at NEMAS.. You can now find it at:

www.nemas.net/edu/index.htm

Or for those who want to bookmark it directly

www.nemas.net/edu/skewt/skewt.htm

Also i have added Jimmy D's Observations Techniques to the site, at the
moment only the "simple observations" is up, but the "advanced
techniques" should be up and running by the end of next week hopefully..
Also the pictures now load on the Thunderstorms page..

Congratulations Anthony on an awesome page, allot of work has been put
into it.. and also for those ppl who are yet to read Jimmy's
Observations Techniques i would recommend it, it's brilliant.. it can be
found on the Education Index as well, or you can access it directly at:

www.nemas.net/edu/observations/observations.htm
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:22:21 +0930
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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Re: Adelaide wet!
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At least 50mm overnight and this morning with more to come!  A friend of
mine got rather badly flooded near third creek.  Wind backing to the west.
Getting colder, but the really cold air to arrive overnight methinks.

Not a convenient time for the Bom radar to be down...

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Storm News
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:28:38 +1000
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As always just take what you need from my site !

By the way a great Storm News last edition, I take these to work and leave
them on my desk, it is surprising what a good conversation starter these
are. But the most usual line is " but we don't get tornadoes in Australia ?
"

Michael
>
> Just a reminder that if you would like to have your
> article/report/photo's considered for Storm News to please email them to
> me ASAP.  Please note that if you have posted a report/URL to the list,
> this has already been recorded.  I understand that sometimes evens can
> happen late in the month, and people are trying to get reports ready, so
> there will be a 5 day le-way for this (June 5th) anything after this,
> will be included in the next issue of Storm News.
>
> I understand Jason or Keith you were going to do a report on TC Vance?
> If you could email this to me, it would be great.  I also don't have any
> reports from Perth (latest severe t'storm) - it only needs to be brief.
>
> After this issue of Storm News, the timing will change slightly, instead
> of an issue covering an entire season (eg Autumn, March + April + May)
> the cutoffs will change, to 10 days before the end of the season, for
> example, Feb 18-28 + March + April + May 1-21.  This way, Storm News
> will generally be out much more punctually.
>
> State Reps - I'm still waiting on a list of addresses of all the
> financial members in your state, I need to know how many issues of Storm
> News will need to be printed + sent out, so I can budget with Michael
> Scollay.
>
> Anthony Cornelius
> Storm News Editor
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: Volcanoes (was Re: aus-wx: Silent Sentinels...)
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:33:20 +1000
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I have often wondered about this myself. I have seen a volcanic hotspot map
and it still has this area as a dormant hotspot.

Pity I could not do a Mexico type of thing and push a 9000 ft peak up in a
few decades, no that would really affect local climate.

Michael

----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
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Sent: Sunday, 23 May 1999 12:22
Subject: Re: Volcanoes (was Re: aus-wx: Silent Sentinels...)


> >Actually, I think the Glass House Mountains are the most recently active
> >volcanoes in Australia. More like 5-10,000 years ago than millions. They
> >are definitely of a similar age to the ones in SW victoria.
> >
> >Ben from Sydney
>
> Actually Ben, I believe an eruption from Mt Gambier in South Australia has
> been dated at only aound 3000y before present.  This may account for the
> local Aboriginal oral tradition of the giant Kraitbul(sp?) who lit his
> ovens in the crater, only to have the waters rise and put them out.  3000
> years is nothing in geological terms, so I guess itse not impossible that
> activity in the genereal area may recommence at some time in the near
> future...??
>
> Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
> paisley at cobweb.com.au
> www.cobweb.com.au/~paisley
>
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne cold outbreak update
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:30:28 +1000
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I am definitely thinking something railroad-ish.

Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Sent: Sunday, 23 May 1999 12:28
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne cold outbreak update


> Possible name for Clyve?
>
> The hail traindriver!!
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 10:07 23/05/99 +1000, you wrote:
> >Interesting articles and great pics, we rarely see clouds like those
here.
> >
> >How come Clyve has a nickname for almost everyone, but himself, any
> >suggestions !
> >
> >Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Jane ONeill 
> >To: Aussie Weather 
> >Sent: Saturday, 22 May 1999 20:25
> >Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne cold outbreak update
> >
> >
> >> I've added charts, radar & photos to the summary of Melbourne's cold
> >> outbreak last Saturday.
> >> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/15_5_99.htm
> >>
> >> The synoptic analysis of the October 1998 stormchase written by Clyve
> >> Herbert is also finally up.
> >> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/stormchase98.htm
> >>
> >> Jane ONeill
> >> Bayswater, Melbourne
> >> Melbourne Storm Chasers
> >> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
> >>
> >>
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: RE: nicks
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:54:20 +1000
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Jimmy & Michael,

Clyve got your messages from Lindsay Smail - and wishes to be known from
this point onwards as "meso-f5".

Jane
Bayswater, Melbourne



>
>Possible name for Clyve?
>
>The hail traindriver!!
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
>At 10:07 23/05/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>Interesting articles and great pics, we rarely see clouds like those here.
>>
>>How come Clyve has a nickname for almost everyone, but himself, any
>>suggestions !
>>
>>Michael


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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Jet Stream charts now on Weather 21
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Silly me, and I thought C7 was the best thing on Austar!
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>From: "Kevin Phyland" 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Jet Stream charts now on Weather 21
>Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 5:05 PM
>

> Hi Mark!
>
> Great to hear the Je-stream analyses are a goer!! It's worth my entire
> AUSTAR bill just to keep getting Weather21!!
>
> Keep up the good work!
>
> Kevin from Wycheproof.
>
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:07:58 +1000
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Sir Robert.... Fancy addreesing a letter to the Kelsos when someone
called Miltiades lives there.... you made an enemy for life !

sir Don
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:38:12 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi all,

Well...we had gales here in Belmont earlier today, lasted about 10mins,
with gusts up to 33-35kn!  During that, a largish branch (5feet long)
snapped off a neighbours tree.  While walking my dog this evening, I
noticed quite a few small branches + twigs down, as well as one medium
sized tree (6-7m high) blown over, with large branches (also around 5-6
feet) broken off nearby trees as well.  After this little burst, things
settled down around 15-20kn for around 20mins, then was fairly calm.

The "tropical depression" is now 990hPa, and causing 55kn gusts, it's
kicking up 5m waves (good enough for you Mr T?) on the beaches causing
some fairly severe beach erosion, and minor local flooding of beach
dwellings.  Certainly seems to me that it could/should be classified as
a Cat 1 TC, even if it is hybrid.

Anthony from Brisbane
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