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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Sunday, 16 May 1999

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001 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
002 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       Waterspouts in Port Phillip Bay?
003 "RODNEY AIKMAN" [raikman at hotmail.com]          Cold outbreak
004 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Re: Cold Snap
005 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]      Sydney Damage O'night from Gales
006 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]      Waterspouts in Port Phillip Bay?
007 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]      May i have some help
008 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Sydney Damage O'night from Gales
009 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
010 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       Re: Cold Snap
011 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Sydney Damage O'night from Gales & Overnight Temps
012 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   SE QLD wx + Pictures
013 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Strahan Observations
014 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Melbourne cold weather
015 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   West Coast observations
016 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          cold video night
017 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]           cold video night
018 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          cold video night - video and chasing
019 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            Cold outbreak
020 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Cold night in Seven Hills
021 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Survey for S.G.P.
022 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Sydney BoM weathers inquiry:)
023 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]            Melbourne's Cold Temperatures...
024 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       Re: Cold Snap

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Whereabouts are you Andrew?

At 16:38 15/05/99 , you wrote:
>3.6C and sleet's here, must be getting close now......
>
>----------
>> From: Andrew Miskelly 
>> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
>> Date: Saturday, 15 May 1999 16:33
>> 
>> 4.0C and still raining! Damn, that wind needs to drop!!


Chris Maunder (Canberra)

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From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Waterspouts in Port Phillip Bay?
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Hi all,

I heard reports of waterspouts in Port Phillip Bay - any confirms?

Chris

Chris Maunder (Canberra)

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Subject: aus-wx: Cold outbreak
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 05:44:06 PDT
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Hi everyone,
            To any of the Victorians on the list that may be 
interested in tracking the cold front across the state: From my 
barograph and thermograph traces, the cold front appears to have 
crossed Bendigo at 14:00 EST. Light to moderate rain commenced at 
14:30 EST, and continued for just over 30 minutes, resulting in 4.0 
mm. At 18:00 EST the screen temperature was 12.1 deg, falling steadily 
from the maximum of 20.5 at 14:00 EST. At 18:00 the wind was south, 
and the stratocumulus cloud was moving from the west. The rainfall 
from this front is fairly typical here for a non-interactive cold 
front at this time of year.

Rod Aikman
Bendigo

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 07:30:20 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Minimum of -1 in Blackheath this morning, Sunday, 16/5
Currently 0.5 at 8am.

Decent frost, bird bath (45cm diameter) is frozen with maybe 2cm ormore
of ice on top of it,enough to put Jack Russel dog on without breaking
:-) 

Fine and Sunny this morning, obviously,with that frost.

Lindsay Pearce
PS: I wonder how cold it got in some of the frost hollows around here?

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:05:45 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Damage O'night from Gales
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Hi all,

Just heard on the radio that Sydney had gales that took down some trees
and powerlines, as well as ripped many more taupaulins off rooves that
were damages in the April 14 supercell...goto the ABC website:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/weather/weath-16may1999-1.htm

for more information.

Anthony from Brisbane
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:13:40 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi Chris,

Some of the Melbournites in IRC were saying that there were two
waterspouts sited by spotters.  Not surprising actually - At Geelong
there was a 38kn low level jet at 850mb, 79kn at 700mb and 112kn at
500mb!!!!!  Geelong's SRH was 473, and Melbourne's was 213!  With the
cold air aloft, I'm surprised there wasn't any reports of any other
vorticies - or, there may have well been, but just not reported.  (SRH =
Storm Relative Helicity, a value of over 450 is strong enough for an
'F4/F5')  There are, however many other factors that play a part in
this, but if this is the 'norm' I think some of the Melbournites should
really be getting out there in these types of fronts and seeing what
they could find...

Anthony from Brisbane

Chris Maunder wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I heard reports of waterspouts in Port Phillip Bay - any confirms?
> 
> Chris
> 
> Chris Maunder (Canberra)
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:26:26 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi Kelly,

I can't *exactly* remember everything, however this is roughly what
happened...

On Monday, I had a one hour introduction on what was happening, then I
spent most of the morning in the Hydrology Department learning how they
issue their flood warnings + river height bulletins, and how some of
their programmes worked.  It was really quite interesting learning about
some flood patterns.  After this, I spent some time at the Severe
Weather Department (woohoo!!!!) I don't know if they liked me though,
because I asked so many questions that I went well into there (and my)
lunchbreak.  Including watching some video footage...we started this at
about 12:45 (lunch is meant to start at 12:30) and Dave Shivas (the
person at the time) said "we'll flick through this quickly since there
isn't much time" and I said "no no, please - I want to see all of it!!" 
So poor Dave had to miss his lunch too :/

After this, I went down into the climatology department and learnt about
some of the processes of the weather...basically some of the
fundamentals, this was GREAT!  I was able to learn a heap of stuff.
After this, I went into the computer department to see what they did
there, and got to play on the net most of the time :)

On Tuesday, I was in the Climatology department again, this time doing a
few odd jobs for them (helping out with batteries for AWS's) and looking
at some of the instruments they used...this was OK  After this, I went
into the computer department to see what they did there, and got to play
on the net most of the time :)

On Wednesday, I started at the Brisbane AP office to watch the launch of
a wx balloon, quite interesting actually - and had a look at what they
did there.  The guy gave me a heap of posters :-))))  That afternoon, I
started in the RFC(Regional Forecasting Centre), and helped out with
some of the phones for obs there.  There was also a storm on this
day...or Thursday..hmm, my memory is not as good as it used to be!  But
it was great watching the storms on radar for the first time.

Thursday and Friday were both spent in the RFC, I spent a lot of time
having a look at 3D radar, I loved that :-)  I was also able to get some
'forecasting tips' from some of the forecasters there, and also read
some quite interesting material - unfortunately, a lot of it was very
technical, too technical for me at that stage!  I also helped up with
the plotting of charts, made my own MSLP charts, looked at models and
helped with making some of the forecasts.

All in all, I had a great time! 

Anthony Cornelius

bernette hudson wrote:
> 
> hi umm the time frame wasnt available but i have rang up agin and asked for
> a different time and the lady has to ring and it is in my holidays so i hope
> to get it. Can i ask what you did while you were there Anthony
> >From Kelly
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Hi Anthony

we had strong gusty winds all day in sydney and then at around 6pm when the
front came through, a breif shower and then the wind really picked up,
strongest winds i have had at my house in a few years, reports of tree's
down everywhere, i saw on the way to Michael Bath's place lots of small
branches down, and twigs/leaves everywhere, i was pretty much praying that
the large trees around me wouldnt fall! Anyway so there you go :)

Had a great night at MB's house watching videos and seeing photos and
slides etc. got down to 7 degrees out at Michaels house around midnight
when we all left, at 10am here in Burwood it is still only 10 degree's, to
cold for my liking!

Matt Smith
>Hi all,
>
>Just heard on the radio that Sydney had gales that took down some trees
>and powerlines, as well as ripped many more taupaulins off rooves that
>were damages in the April 14 supercell...goto the ABC website:
>
>http://www.abc.net.au/news/weather/weath-16may1999-1.htm
>
>for more information.
>
>Anthony from Brisbane
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:08:39 +1000
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Ah well, for anyone who was following my dribbling monologue last night,
**THE HIGH DID BARGE IT'S WAY IN**!! (I'm in Taralga Chris, it's on the
BoM's NSW boundarys map). After I stopped writing messages the temp went
down to 2.65, it kept sleeting, then the cloud dried up and cleared
completely, the temp hovered at 3 or 4 for a while and then it went all the
way down to -6.5 over night....hence, the other white stuff!!

Even though that's still pretty impressive weather, we wen't so bloody
close to snow! Damn highs!!

Andrew.

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> From: Chris Maunder 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
> Date: Sunday, 16 May 1999 0:57
> 
> Whereabouts are you Andrew?
> 
> At 16:38 15/05/99 , you wrote:
> >3.6C and sleet's here, must be getting close now......
> >
> >----------
> >> From: Andrew Miskelly 
> >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
> >> Date: Saturday, 15 May 1999 16:33
> >> 
> >> 4.0C and still raining! Damn, that wind needs to drop!!
> 
> 
> Chris Maunder (Canberra)
> 
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At 00:30 17/05/99 , you wrote:
>Minimum of -1 in Blackheath this morning, Sunday, 16/5
>Currently 0.5 at 8am.
>
>Decent frost, bird bath (45cm diameter) is frozen with maybe 2cm ormore
>of ice on top of it,enough to put Jack Russel dog on without breaking
>:-) 
>
>Fine and Sunny this morning, obviously,with that frost.
>
>Lindsay Pearce
>PS: I wonder how cold it got in some of the frost hollows around here?

Well, it was -5C at 5:30 this morning, but I heard mention of a -7C min.
Everything was well and truly snap frozen this morning. Funny, since our
forcast min was 1C.

Absolutely stunning day today though. Not a breath of air, blue sky, no
cloud. Classic Canberra winter morning!

Chris
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Damage O'night from Gales & Overnight Temps
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:48:23 +1000
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There was a blackout in some Wollongong suburbs too, just after dark from
what my wife told me.

Wild variation in temperatures on the trip home from MB's place to mine in
Mt Warrigal. It was a chilly 7.3C at his place when I left, but dropped to
5.1C about 10kms from Liverpool, back up to 8.4C at Liverpool, then 2.6C at
the Picton turnoff, 2.6C !!. Coming down the pass into Wollongong and the
temperature soared from 5C to 9.1C. At my home it was 8.9C but being close
to sea there was a stiff land breeze making it seem just as cold as anywhere
else.

Michael



> we had strong gusty winds all day in sydney and then at around 6pm when
the
> front came through, a breif shower and then the wind really picked up,
> strongest winds i have had at my house in a few years, reports of tree's
> down everywhere, i saw on the way to Michael Bath's place lots of small
> branches down, and twigs/leaves everywhere, i was pretty much praying that
> the large trees around me wouldnt fall! Anyway so there you go :)
>
> Had a great night at MB's house watching videos and seeing photos and
> slides etc. got down to 7 degrees out at Michaels house around midnight
> when we all left, at 10am here in Burwood it is still only 10 degree's, to
> cold for my liking!
>



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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD wx + Pictures
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:57:19 +1000
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Great photos Ben, the squall is very impressive, it has been a long time
since I have seen the likes of that here!

Michael



> Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
>
> We had some spectacular high cloud in Southern QLD today.. i know i
> know, it's only high cloud but it really was very nice, much like the
> pictures that Michael Thompson posted a day or two ago.. just took at
> least 10 photo's of a great sunset..
>
> On the subject of sunsets, i have a few pictures scanned that i took
> over a period of about 3 months in SE QLD.. out of over 200 photo's
> taken, only a handfull of them came out (grrr).. i guess that's what you
> get with a poverty stricken 28mm point and shoot camera :( Thanks again
> to Rosco for scanning them for me..
>
> Sorry, no thumbnails at the moment, i was going to wait until the
> Brisbane Storm Chasers Webpage was finished for these, but it looks like
> it may be a little while before the page is ready for the web.. i'll
> paste the URL's for the ones i think are worthy of looking at..
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/45.jpg
> A spectacular sunset.. it didn't turn out too bad either, i was
> surprised
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/46.jpg
> Taken the same day as the one above..
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/1.jpg
> Taken from the top of Mount Nebo (1000m up).. Notice the fresh updraft
> going up inbetween the 2 anvils? A few minutes later it was absolutely
> breathtaking.. 5 times as large as it is there and just rock solid.. but
> believe it or not i was almost certain the pictures wouldn't come out at
> the time, and i was short on film so i only took this photo ( at *$#&$# at %
> # at $ at #)
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/9.jpg
> This beasty looking thing was taken on quite a weak day, although this
> storm did go on to produce quite allot of lightning once it got off the
> coast, and a possible microburst over Bribie Island about 20 minutes
> after this photo was taken.. most other storms in the district were
> quite weak..
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/7.jpg
> They don't get much blacker than this.. it was taken on December 16 last
> year, the day of the 10cm hail in Brisbane, the storm that dumped the
> 10cm hail was approx 30km east of this base as this picture was taken..
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/6.jpg
> This was taken as a squall line was approaching in excess of 60km/h (the
> BOM warnings mentioned the speed).. it was absolutely FLYING.. shortly
> after this picture was taken i recieved probably a 40knot gust of wind..
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/5.jpg
> The same storm as the one above, taken from the same location at almost
> the same time.. This was soooooooo green in real life, but unfortunately
> the green did not come out at all in the photo..
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/37.jpg
> Not weather related, but this is an arial shot of the Redcliffe
> Peninsula taken from a helicopter.. Incase you're wondering, i live on
> the western side of this peninsula :)
>
> The flood pictures!! All these picture were taken during the Febuary
> floods in SE QLD, keep in mind that the worst flooding was some distance
> NW of Brisbane, and the flooding seen in the pictures below was classed
> as "minor flooding", with the "Major/Casastrophic" flooding out of reach
> due to cut roads :( Their are a few, but my favourites are:
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/27.jpg
> If their is actually anyone still reading this email, the picture was
> taken on the side of Mount Mee some 6 hours after flash flooding ripped
> through the area after an ovenright rainfall in excess of 300mm!! The
> water was much much higher than it was in the picture, evidence of this
> the debree on the road on the other side, and also trees were ripped out
> and the banks badly eroded a short way downstream.. This is not actually
> the Caboulture River (wich caused the worst flooding in my area), but a
> small drainage creek.. it dosn't even have a name! the larger
> creeks/rivers were out of reach, as you can see the road is under at
> least 2 metres of water (the flood depth indicator is out of site, it's
> 1.5m high)
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/28.jpg
> Actually, in this photo you can vaugly see how high the water reached
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/26.jpg
> Taken further downstream, the water was flowing VERY fast
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/25.jpg
> This picture was taken from the Bruce Highway, standing on the bridge
> that crosses The Caboulture river, all these photo's are taken at least
> 6-8 hours AFTER the flash flooding that morning, the water levels were
> so much higher in the morning, but i didn't have a camera until early
> afternoon - long story
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/23.jpg
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/24.jpg
> These 2 were also taken from the Bruce highway.. the Caboulture river is
> normally around 10-15 metres wide, but very very deep.. I'd love to see
> it in a major flood..
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/20.jpg
> This picture was taken in Caboulture, this is the Caboulture River.. you
> could mistake it FOR A LAKE.. again, this was 6-8 hours AFTER the flash
> flooding that occured during the early hours of the morning, the water
> was at least another half to one metre higher than it is in this photo..
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/21.jpg
> Taken from around the same area as the picture above, you can see some
> weed on the railing.. the railing was not visible in the peak of the
> flash flooding..
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/19.jpg
> same as above, looking down the road - the Caboulture river is at the
> far end of this road, you can just see in the photo the water is still
> over the bridge that crosses the river..
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/35.jpg
> This is the now infamous Toombul Carpark - underwater, living up to its
> name.. this is once again flash flooding, withe the water moving
> extremely fast and rising and falling quite quickly..
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/36.jpg
> Same location as above, but taken from the carpark itself..
>
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/10.jpg
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/11.jpg
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/12.jpg
> These are arial shots taken by the Department of Natural resources in
> Febuary, during the worst flooding in Gympie in over a century (I think
> the Mary reached 21.95 metres).. These didn't really scan all that
> well.. keep in mind that what you are looking at is quite mountanis
> terrain, and the water depth in some of those valleys underwater is just
> beyond a comprehensable..
>
> Hmm.. this is one big ass email.. if you got this far then you've done
> pretty well! hehe.. Their are close to 50 pictures in that directory, as
> you've probably figured out by now you can just change the number of the
> JPG in the URL to see the rest of the pictures, or you go to this URL
> below and you will get a directory listing..
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/bsc/
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:07:23 +1000
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Yikes ! that is 30 something feet !

Michael


>                  MAXIMUM HEIGHT OVER THE PAST 3 HRS 10.5m
>                                      AVERAGE PERIOD 14 s
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:01:02 +1000
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Just reading this now ( Sunday 11.00am ) and I dare say that you were
correct !!

Michael



> Hi All,
>
> Well.  MRF has 500mb thickness at about 530 for melbourne tomorrow morning
> (sat) at 10am.  Vertical velocities at -30.  Tot-tots at 50 or so.  850mb
> temps of -3.  Could be a tiddle colder than they forecast.  The forecast
is
> for local hail and thunder with snow falls to 800m.
>
> Finally something interesting in melbourne.
>
> Andrew McDonald
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:24:13 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Currently 7.5 degrees in Blackheath at 1pm Sunday. Great day now, sunny
and really balmy for us, anyway :-)

Lindsay
PS: we never got those really low mins like Canberra etc but it can stay
cool/cold here all day.

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Hi everyone,

Jimmy here.

We had the video night last night and there were ten in attendance. It was
a great time had by all and we all appreciate Michael B's hospitality. I
can tell you pizza and storm/tornado videos work well on a cold night. It
was great to see everyone glued to the TV and I can say that more video
nights are in order. I would suggest people have video nights in all state
branches. It is a good way to talk and so on without the disruption of the
meeting proceedings. With Michael B moving up the coast, we will have to
find another venue for future video nights. Any ideas??

One thing I learned is the observation of dust swirls described by Clyve in
Victoria. I had read about these but not seen them or can't remember seeing
them. I am now convinced that there is sufficient evidence to suggest that
the storm Clyve observed was a mesocyclone based on those dust whirls he saw!

Michael T watched as the temp dropped from 20C around sunset to 7C around
midnight. And yes, we had our first frost this morning.

Well I hope all the guys who came had a great time.

Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 07:44:38 +0100
From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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Jimmy Deguara wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Jimmy here.
>
> We had the video night last night and there were ten in attendance. It was
> a great time had by all and we all appreciate Michael B's hospitality. I
> can tell you pizza and storm/tornado videos work well on a cold night.

What are the chances of you guys having a video night in November for Les &
Christine?? Thats if it turns out to be storm free!!

Les

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We will as we did last year watch videos on our big chase - A lot of use
have more than enough video footage to share each nights. Believe me the
chases are always exciting, but the nights talking to eachother about
chases means that the experience will be one not to forget.

Jimmy Deguara


At 07:44 16/05/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>
>Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Jimmy here.
>>
>> We had the video night last night and there were ten in attendance. It was
>> a great time had by all and we all appreciate Michael B's hospitality. I
>> can tell you pizza and storm/tornado videos work well on a cold night.
>
>What are the chances of you guys having a video night in November for Les &
>Christine?? Thats if it turns out to be storm free!!
>
>Les
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>The rainfall
>from this front is fairly typical here for a non-interactive cold
>front at this time of year.
>
>Rod Aikman
>Bendigo


Rod, what exactly do you mean by 'non-interactive' cold front?  Do you mean
one that hasn't interacted with a north west cloud band??

Two chilly days in Adelaide now, 14 degree maxes both days, but nothing
like what Melbournites have been getting...

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 19:48:33 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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This morning here was:
The earliest day for a frost in at least 23 years
The lowest May minimum since 25.5.1982 (4.0 deg)
The 4th lowest terrestrial minimum on record for May in 23 years (minus
1.6 deg)
All this for an elevation of 83m above MSL, on top of a hill
I had to rub the ice off the thermometer to read it...
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Hi Everyone

The person below emailed me asking to take part in a survey on the Sydney
Hailstorm for a project... feel free to email him your answers.

Matt Smith

>
>Hi thank you for taking part in my survey which will help me with my 
>research in my year 11 Senior Geography Project. When you are finished 
>please email the answers to Paul_Campbell06 at hotmail.com
>The questions are as follows:
>1) What is your name?
>
>
>2) What is your full job description?
>
>
>
>3) Is the ASWA your employer? If not then who is your employer?
>
>
>4) Where are you based at in Sydney?
>
>
>5) How long have you been watching and predicting storms?
>
>
>6) What were your predictions of the Supercell Storm?
>
>
>7) What aspects tell us the severity of a storm?
>
>
>8) Have you experienced a storm of this level before? If yes when?
>
>
>9) What equipment is used to monitor weather and predict storms?
>
>
>10) What different Phenomenons were recorded the day of the Supercell     
>storm?
>
>
>11) Were the readings on this day different from readings from other     
>storms? If yes how?
>
>
>
>12) How much warning is given before storms hit and how much was given     
>on this particular day?
>
>
>
>13) How have you predicted storms in the past and is it easy to         
>predict the storms?
>
>
>
>14) Has other storms and there predictions helped with the prediction     of 
>this storm?
>
>
>
>15) Did you live in the storm area hit? If yes what damage was caused     to 
>your house?
>
>
>
>16) Do you know what the boundary line is for the storms destruction path? 
>(what parts were affected).
>
>
>
>
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>
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 20:00:51 +1000
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Blair...
I know it's not spoken about at the bureau but why do we need regional
forecasting centres anymore, with communications as they are.
Would not one well staffed and efficient forecasting centre suffice ?
Don White

Blair Trewin wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is the result of the inquiry into the Hailstorm and failure to give
> > warnings.
> >
> The full report was apparently tabled in Parliament last night. I'm
> trying to get hold of a copy (as it's been tabled it should now be
> a public document), and if I do will post a summary of pertinent
> points. Senator Hill's speech apparently gave a lot of the main
> points - I haven't gone looking for it yet but someone said they'd
> found it in Hansard (try www.aph.gov.au?).
> 
> So far I only know what's been reported in the media. The most
> interesting aspect of this was the communications - and this may go
> a long way to explaining why the likes of Michael feel they get
> pretty short shrift from the Bureau. Under the current system, out
> of business hours the forecasters are answering their own phones,
> and frankly in a fast-developing situation they've got better things
> to do - some of the calls contain valuable information, some are a
> waste of time. One idea I've been floating around here is for regional
> offices to be able to divert their phones to another state under less
> pressure in a severe-weather situation - that way the person who does
> the screening of the phone calls (and takes the decisions about
> which ones are worth passing on) isn't someone who is trying to
> forecast the storms at the same time. (For example, something that
> could be done might be to divert the storm spotters number to, say,
> Melbourne, and for someone in Melbourne to take down details and
> relay them via e-mail or some other text-based system to Sydney - I
> imagine a message appearing on the screen along the lines of '1840
> Bundeena, 4cm hail reported' is what the forecasters need, and they
> could digest it quickly in a situation where every minute counts).
> 
> (I'm also attracted by the idea of being able to transfer the Stan
> Zemaneks of this world to waste the time of someone in some other
> state).
> 
> Blair Trewin
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>From the ABC Weather News 
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/weather/weath-16may1999-2.htm)
'Bureau of Meteorology duty forecaster Terry Ryan says there were severe 
frosts in many areas this morning.  "It's zero at Coldstream and a lot of 
suburbs are around two or three degrees," he said.
"It's 3.2 in the city, which is one of the coldest mornings for a fair 
while.  "We're checking up soon on how long since it's been 3.2 in town but 
it's very cold around the suburbs and in inland Victorian there's a lot of 
minus temperatures.'

Were you consulted, Blair?


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-0.5C at 11pm. Gonna be another cold night in Canberra!

Chris.

At 00:30 17/05/99 , you wrote:
>Minimum of -1 in Blackheath this morning, Sunday, 16/5
>Currently 0.5 at 8am.
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