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001 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             N NSW storms & the strange lights
002 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             Strange but apparently true...
003 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        This morning's record roundup
004 "Daniel Weatherhead" [dpw14 at hotmail.com]       ASWA Vanage Points Database!!!!
005 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Cyclone names
006 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             Strange but apparently true...
007 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com]     Vic vantage points
008 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Western Sydney STorm Tuesday 27th
009 "Daniel Weatherhead" [dpw14 at hotmail.com]       Western Sydney Storm-Werrington Downs
010 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]      ASWA Meeting + Possible Action?
011 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Western Sydney Storm-Werrington Downs
012 disarm at braenet.com.au                          My Mobile Number !
013 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Sydney Hailstorm Report

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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: N NSW storms & the strange lights
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:02:24 +1000
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Darn,

And I though it was just some more NATO missiles gone astray...,

>snip
B105 (local radio station and better then MMM :P) also said the same
thing about the meteorite shower.

>snip
> They were saying on MMM (local radio station for those not in Brisbane) the
> police were flooded with phonecalls in Brisbane and the Gold Coast from
> people reporting strange lights in the sky - the announcer said it was a
> Meteorite shower.. wether this is true or not i don't know..
> 

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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Strange but apparently true...
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:01:11 +1000
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As an addendum to this....

Amberley recorded 4C according to the news.  So being 26km west of the city 
I would normally have expected to be somewhere between 7C and 4C.  Funny 
thing is, it didn't seem that cold this morning at Mt. Crosby and in fact 
my min was 11.0C, which is 2C warmer than the 9.0C I recorded last Friday 
(23rd)!   Difference is that last Friday it was dead calm overnight, 
whereas last night was considerably windy.

Forecast for tonight is Amberley again 5C and Brisbane 9C.  Currently at 
12:00 midnight it is 15C here and it just isn't going to get there and yes, 
there is still a good westerly happening.

Hmmmm.  Maybe the hills & forest effect again??

>Snip

Brisbane Airport had a minimum of 7 this morning, breaking the
previous April record of 7.6 set in 1990.


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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: This morning's record roundup
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The main focus for record lows this morning seems to be western 
Queensland and the central deserts.

Ones I've spotted so far:

(whole number means I only have a rounded obs)

Definite

Queensland

Burketown	11.6 (previously 12.4 - equalled yesterday)
Richmond PO	7 (previously 7.6. Note airport - new site - was 6)
Barcladine	5.6 (previously 6.7)
Tambo		0 (previously 1.7)
Isisford	3.9 (previously 5.0)

NSW

Wilcannia	2.8 (equalled previous record)

SA

Ceduna		0 (previously 1.7)

Possible

Queensland	

Longreach	5 (previously 5.5)
Birdsville	6 (previously 6.0)

NT

Alice Springs	2 (previously 1.7)

The full NT bulletin hasn't come through yet - will update if it does -
places like Kulgera could be worth watching for a possible NT record
(currently 1.0 at the now-closed Tempe Downs)

Blair Trewin
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Subject: aus-wx: ASWA Vanage Points Database!!!!
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:43:31 PDT
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Hello everyone,

You all thought that the database was taken care of, well I'm back 
and I want your sites. I want all the various places that all those 
storm ethusiasts visit to watch a thunderstorm.
I have recieved around 15 emails with about 30-40 places. They are 
widespread to say the least. 

I have a few from Brisbane, a few from Canberra/ACT, a few from Vic 
and a few from Sydney, but the most sites the most detailed 
descriptions comes from Adelaide.  have about 10 sites from 
Adelaide/SA. 
Everyone else lift your game.-(My best impression on being a 
motivator is coming up) -I want them coming thick and fast.
I want location, views, pro's and con's, any thing which you deem it 
necessary to tell me. 

I am looking for this to be completed by July/August--becasue I have 
7 weeks off. It will probably be in A5 format--perfect size for 
travelling and (drumroll please.....) there will be a website

However all of the above is damn useless unless all people email me 
with their sites. That can email the list with Subject title--
ASWA Vantage point database 
--or you can email me at dann_w at hotmail.com
It doesn't matter. What does matter is that we all give our little 
bit so a big and truly useful tool can be made.
Once again--GET those emails in.

Have a nice day!!

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Cyclone names
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I have it on good authority from one of the WA Regional Office people
that the 'E' cyclone on this year's list was originally supposed to
be 'Elle'.

It seems that someone in the office decided that this might not be a
very good idea, given the fact that a certain well-known person by
that name does ads for WA tourism, and changed it to Elaine before
the start of the season. Probably as well, given the damage that
Elaine ended up causing.

(In Clement Wragge's day, he named cyclones after people - especially
politicians with which he was in disagreement - on purpose, but I
don't think you could get away with that now, much as I'd like to be
able to name a particularly destructive storm after Stan Zemanek 
after his performance post-Sydney hailstorm, which got a well-deserved
roasting on 'Media Watch' last week).

Blair Trewin 

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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Strange but apparently true...
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:49:00 +1000
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Hi all,

Well I was right, it only made it down to 13C at Mt. Crosby, so it will be interesting to see what the airport & Amberley come up with.

John W.

>snip

As an addendum to this....

Amberley recorded 4C according to the news.  So being 26km west of the city 
I would normally have expected to be somewhere between 7C and 4C.  Funny 
thing is, it didn't seem that cold this morning at Mt. Crosby and in fact 
my min was 11.0C, which is 2C warmer than the 9.0C I recorded last Friday 
(23rd)!   Difference is that last Friday it was dead calm overnight, 
whereas last night was considerably windy.

Forecast for tonight is Amberley again 5C and Brisbane 9C.  Currently at 
12:00 midnight it is 15C here and it just isn't going to get there and yes, 
there is still a good westerly happening.

Hmmmm.  Maybe the hills & forest effect again??

>Snip

Brisbane Airport had a minimum of 7 this morning, breaking the
previous April record of 7.6 set in 1990.



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Subject: aus-wx: Vic vantage points
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Here are a few that I can remember (Melway editoin 1993):

1. Doncaster Shoppingtown Carpark, Doncaster - Melway map 33 D12 - 
has views in all directions except ESE. The main advantage of it is 
that it's close to the Eastern Freeway which takes you west towards 
the city or out towards the eastern suburbs and nearby ranges. Its 
main disadvantage is that at night the lights make the lightning less 
vivid and not as effective photogenically. Is the best place in 
Melbourne I know of to watch the NE ranges storms from. 

2. Leakes Rd & Dohertys Rd, Werribee - Melway map 203 - is great for 
a vantage point due to the fact that it's flat with no trees. You can 
see in all directions and the fact it is situated near two main 
freeways - one heads to Geelong, the other to Ballarat - makes it 
ideal from that point of view. The main disadvantage of these and 
other roads in the area is that they are dirt roads and are not 
really accessible to conventional vehicles after a lot of rain. It is 
best when the storms are coming in from the west, but can be good for 
others.

3. Melbourne Airport observational carpark, Tullamarine - map 4 J7 - 
is good for seeing in most directions. It is close to the freeways 
that head towards Bendigo and Woodend. It is difficult to get to if 
you don't know where it is however and also trees can get in the way.
It's best to go here for storms that are towards the north west.
     
4. Mt Ridley Rd, Craigieburn - map 243 C1 - is one I stumbled onto by 
accident a few years ago. It is just off the Hume highway and has a 
great view of the city. It is also good to check on the storms to the 
north. It's disadvantage is the time it takes to get anywhere apart 
from north.

Generally the plains north of the divide are great for chasing with a 
superb road network and nice flat land which means any hills even if 
only 100m high are extremely useful. There is a turnoff of the 
Northern Highway north of Heathcote that leads along the eastern side 
of a small range and gives you a superb view across towards the NE 
ranges and Shepparton. The turnoff will have a sign saying 
Colbinabbin and Elmore (map 407 - H/J 4). I used to work up that way 
and I saw storms from this road that were in NSW and could see storms 
over the ranges easily.

These are ones I can think of for now - the Mt Dandenong ones have 
already been mentioned by Jane O'Neill I think.

Chris Gribben


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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:47:10 +1000
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Daniel...
Exactly where are you ? Was your 24 hour total to 9am the next morning
still 87 mm
I note that Box Hill AWS (rain) had 20 mm but all other reports from the
area wrre lower.
Don White

Daniel Weatherhead wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone
> 
> Well Tueday was an interesting day for everyone. While Matt was
> chasing cells around the Sydney Metro I was sitting back in Western
> Sydney observing the magnificent formations and structures.
> I was in class to 12 noon--(mid semester review-the only classes i
> can't skip) and I was constantly rushing to the windows to see all
> the action south, south east and north west of me.
> Then on my way back to my house I saw a very dense low cloud, which
> had no apparent structure other than taht of a base cloud. Anyway my
> thought wasn't for it. But five minutes later the indlow into this
> system had completely obstuced all my views to the other system. With
> this failure, i decided to go home and complete my work. The sky got
> darker and it gently began to rain. Then it got heavier and heavier
> and persisted like this for around 15-20 minutes.
> On the radar approx 30 minute beforehand i had spotted a yellow area
> on a cell forming near Katoomba. This is what I believe fell at my
> house (werrington downs). Anyway after this period of heavy rain, it
> eased off, the winds strongly picked up, and five cracks of thunder
> shook my house. THen the rain cam down again. And then the pebble
> sized hail--making it the third time in a week. The rain wind and
> thunder continued.
> Anyway to cut this short in arond an hour from 2-3pm approx 61mm was
> recorded in my rain guage and 87mm was recorded between 9-5 Tuesday.
> An amazing fall consdering in was bright sunshine at 1pm.
> I was expecting to hear news of widespread flooding but this embedded
> cell must of saved the best for me.
> Anyway just a different report for me. Actually a friend a street up
> recoreded 85mm but a guage teh next suburb recorded only 30mm
> 
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Subject: aus-wx: Western Sydney Storm-Werrington Downs
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---Daniel...

Exactly where are you ? Was your 24 hour total to 9am the next morning
still 87 mm
I note that Box Hill AWS (rain) had 20 mm but all other reports from the
area wrre lower.
Don White---



I am at werrington downs which is north of penrith, north of kingswood. 
The 87mm was between before 7am (i checked it before i went to uni) and 
about 5pm (when I got home from my second class). But I would say that 
most of probably came from the falls between 12-5pm becasue at 
uni(--werrington south UWS 10kms away--) we had sunshine all morning 
although there was a cell which was dark over my house as I was driving 
back after 12 but I don't think anything significant. 
I was almost skeptical about the fall. I though I had maybe not tipped 
out the previous days fill. But I am certain I did when I checked the 
Mondays. 
In adding to this extraordinary fall--we did get a hell of a lot of 
rain. Enough to have flooding thru the garage-which has never happened 
before. And for excess storm water flowing out of the drains.

I hope that has helped your query DON  :)

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:42:32 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi all,

If some of the Brisbanites have been looking at the models, they might
have noticed that this Saturday could potentially be interesting, as in
heavy thundery shower wise...there is a *VERY* strong upper level
trough/low + cold pool of air.  Most likely, it'll result in heavy
coastal showers - however everything is subject to moisture.  At the
moment, the models do have a fair amount of moisture coming in, but
possibly not as much as I would hope for (if I were greedy!)  What does
this have to do with the ASWA meeting?  Never fear!  If anything
interesting happens, there is an internet connection at the office (with
4 computers connected I believe?)  We *can* hurry along the ASWA meeting
if something very exciting happens, or alternatively, we can have breaks
to all go outside.  Remember, wx first!  

Lets just hope the models are correct, they've been tipping this for
almost a week now, and currently the models are still looking 'sweet.' 
Some showers in NE NSW were nice to see...as it means there's at least
some moisture there.  There might also be some stuff around on Friday
night for us, certainly to the south there will be.

Now - 5 months ago, we were getting excited seeing -8 LI's forecasted
about 100km W of us...now, we're getting excited seeing -2 LI's to our
S, and -20 VV's, in the hope of heavy thundery showers...

Anthony Cornelius
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:07:16 +1000
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Thanks, Daniel
Don W

Daniel Weatherhead wrote:
> 
> ---Daniel...
> 
> Exactly where are you ? Was your 24 hour total to 9am the next morning
> still 87 mm
> I note that Box Hill AWS (rain) had 20 mm but all other reports from the
> area wrre lower.
> Don White---
> 
> I am at werrington downs which is north of penrith, north of kingswood.
> The 87mm was between before 7am (i checked it before i went to uni) and
> about 5pm (when I got home from my second class). But I would say that
> most of probably came from the falls between 12-5pm becasue at
> uni(--werrington south UWS 10kms away--) we had sunshine all morning
> although there was a cell which was dark over my house as I was driving
> back after 12 but I don't think anything significant.
> I was almost skeptical about the fall. I though I had maybe not tipped
> out the previous days fill. But I am certain I did when I checked the
> Mondays.
> In adding to this extraordinary fall--we did get a hell of a lot of
> rain. Enough to have flooding thru the garage-which has never happened
> before. And for excess storm water flowing out of the drains.
> 
> I hope that has helped your query DON  :)
> 
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Hi Everyone!

I Finally got mobile phone ! Nokia 5110 dooby thing.

My Number is 0407 069 693

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Hailstorm Report
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My report is finally up at

http://thunder.simplenet.com/chase/chase13.htm


Michael Thompson
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