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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Tuesday, 23 March 1999

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001 "Ira Fehlberg" [jra at upnaway.com]               ready set go
002 "Ira Fehlberg" [jra at upnaway.com]               Cyclone Vance -Pictures
003 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     QLD ASWA Meeting Reminder
004 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Mid North Coast rain
005 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Re: tornados
006 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Re: aussie-weather: Change
007 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Re: aussie-weather: January 1999 likely to be hottest on 
008 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Re climate change on poles.
009 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Orange Rainfall.
010 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange Weather
011 Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au]              Cat 5 Cyclones
012 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             cold fronts...
013 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             Change...
014 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Admin - Important
015 "Jason" [kevans at kisser.net.au]                 Vance equals record wind gust in Australia!!!!
016 "Jason" [kevans at kisser.net.au]                 Awsome Sat pic of  TC Vance
017 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange W weather.
018 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            TC Vance
019 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          LI server back online
020 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Severe T'storm on the Gold Coast last night
021 "Daniel Weatherhead" [dpw14 at hotmail.com]       ASWA vantage points database!
022 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange weather
023 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com]     Eyre rainfall
024 bgroughan at telstra.easymail.com.au              cold fronts...
025 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       ASWA vantage points database!
026 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           ASWA vantage points database! - Canberra
027 "Ira Fehlberg" [jra at upnaway.com]               WA ASWA Meeting Reminder
028 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     QLD ASWA - Slight Change of Plan
029 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]               gold coast lightning display
030 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]               lightning photos
031 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Yea Storm Chase report 27/1/99
032 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]               gold coast lightning display
033 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]               lightning photos
034 "Ira Fehlberg" [jra at upnaway.com]               Re: Aussie weather ppl footy tipping comp! Prizes too!! & it
035 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     gold coast lightning display
036 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     gold coast lightning display
037 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             Lightning Colour

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001

From: "Ira Fehlberg" [jra at upnaway.com]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: ready set go
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:04:08 +0800
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I dont see what this letter has to do with weather reports!! If you have
personal messages send them direct to that person. The list is for reports
and information for all to benifit from.

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> From: Keith Barnett 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: ready set go
> Date: Monday, 22 March 1999 17:15
> 
> 'Nobody knows how much I thrive
> On worms three times a day...'

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002

From: "Ira Fehlberg" [jra at upnaway.com]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone Vance -Pictures
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:01:18 +0800
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The winds seen on the news arent of the actually cyclone, i found out that
they couldnt get any pics out today, they will be out tommorrow. The pics
seen were just of the leadup stuff. Here on channel 7 they spoke to the
camera by phone and he actually broke down and started crying and handed
the phone to someone else. Surely we cannot begin to comprehend wind like
this.

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> From: Jimmy Deguara 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone Vance - Future track
> Date: Monday, 22 March 1999 19:48
> 
> This brings back memories. I recall a cyclone in 1980 when it corssed the
> coast early in the morning and during the afternoon we got severe storms
> approaching from the same cloud mass leading edge which quickly dumped
> heavy falls and moved to Brisbane the next day... I mean some nice heavy
> falls for Schofields standards  It moved quite quickly I can tell you but
> this won't as such
> 
> Jimmy Deguara

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003

Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:01:53 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: QLD ASWA Meeting Reminder
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Hi all,

This is a quick reminder of the QLD ASWA meeting this Saturday the 27th
of March at 10am.  The address is Unit 9/14 Argon St. Sumner Park PH:
3279 1700 (if you have trouble trying to get there on the day.)

If you cannot make it (I have a list of all interested QLD/NE NSW ASWA
patrons) please email myself on cyclone at stealth.com.au or phone me on
(07) 3390 4812, or email James at jamestorm at ozemail.com.au  In other
words...if you don't get in contact with us, then we'll assume you're
coming.  It would really be good if everyone could come, as this meeting
is fairly important in the organisational aspect of things in ASWA.

Thanks,
Anthony Cornelius
QLD ASWA Co-ordinator

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004

From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 08:32:31 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Mid North Coast rain
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Howdy all. Nice fall of rain last night from pre-frontal & frontal rain.
Received 24.8mm from 4pm yesterday til 8pm last night. Winds were quite
gusty at times reaching 50 - 60 km/h.

Rain was heavy at times to, with a return rate of 0.6mm per min at 4pm for
quite a few minutes.

Interesting news this morning about TC Vance (NOW cat 1) was that at
exmouth sea water made it 2.1km inland with the storm surge - and that was
confirmed by the head of SES talking to the Today show. Not bad!! They are
more concerned about Onslow at the moment as it is more low-lying and they
think there could be major flooding.

Paul.

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005

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:34:56 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: tornados
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I know Nandina, I know. My Marion just loves them. We so often have to
stop when we drive past them! She wants to get a little paddock in the
Hartley Vale area.


Lindsay

Nandina Morris wrote:
> 
> Lindsay - don't you know you shouldn't pat strange horses!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Nandina

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006

Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 04:03:38 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: aussie-weather: Change
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Lindsay wrote:
>Seven Degrees in Blackheath this morning. Cooler temps after the change came through yesterday.


Beautiful clear day out there.


Lindsay

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007

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:27:36 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: aussie-weather: January 1999 likely to be hottest on 
	 record for
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I think it was more likely a land spout then, from what you say. There
were no trees uprooted that I saw. Can't remember our ears popping, (I
just asked my partner, she has a very good memory, typical academic and
she confirmed no CB or popping)


Lindsay

Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> 
> Hi Lindsay, what were the conditions at the time?  As in, was there Cb
> overhead?  Or just TCU/Congestus?  If there was Cb overhead (active
> thunderstorm) then from the details you just told me, I'd say a tornado,
> if it was TCU/Congestus, I'd say a landspout.  Exactly how did the trees
> get tossed around?  Do you mean, completely uproot them and throw them?
> Or just swaying violently in the wind?  Did your ears pop at any time
> during this event?
> 
> Anthony

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008

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:43:05 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re climate change on poles.
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Taa Terry,



Lindsay

Terry Bishop wrote:
> 
> Hi Lindsay,
> 
>                 Checkout the following site re climate change on the poles. I haven't had
> time to have a good read myself but look interesting. Chapter 1 & 2 of their
> documentation section look interesting.
> 
> http://igloo.gsfc.nasa.gov/wais/
> 
>  Terry.
> 
> mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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009

Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:42:06 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Orange Rainfall.
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Aint that the Truth Terry!

They call it Bleak-Heath which really isn't true as we have lots of
glorious sunny days just lots of mist too.


Lindsay

Terry Bishop wrote:
> 
> Hi Lindsay,
> 
>                 I used to be a train driver before Orange depot were made redundant.
> Working the night mail to Sydney one had to remember where Blackheath
> platform was cause you couldn't see it!!!
> 
>  Terry.
> 
> mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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010

From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: "Aussie-weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Orange Weather
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 09:11:49 +1000
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Hi All,

	At 07.00 it was a nice warm 4.8C. Lowest min. so far this year. Nice 100%
blue sky.
 37mm of rain Sunday. 4mm of rain Monday. Total of 84mm for this month.
 This is the first early Autumn rains the farmers have had for ten years.
 Bad news for the wine drinkers. The dry weather was making a good vintage
grape but now the rain has spoilt that idea. Not only here but in S.A wine
areas they have had even more rain.


At 09.00 at Orange, 14C, 95%, 1018, SSW  at  0-3 Knots.

 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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011

Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 08:19:04 +0800
From: Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cat 5 Cyclones
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Chris

I spent some time yesterday going over this issue. I have found out that the
most cat 5's we have had in the one season since beginning of records is 3.
This happened in the 94/95 seaseon with Bobby, Chloe and Annette. Bobby crosed
the coast as a Cat5, Chloe crossed as a Cat3 and Annette crossed as a Cat4. I
cant find any time where we had 2 Cat5's making landfall in the one season.

Greg

Chris Gribben wrote:

> Hi everyone. They've downgraded Vance to Cat 3, but I was wondering how
> often we get two Cat 5 cyclones in a season (Thelma & Vance (Louise)). I
> was in Darwin for Thelma and was glad it missed although part of me
> wanted it to come right over just so I could experience one.
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:37:39 +1100
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From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: cold fronts...
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Hi everyone

Yesterday i observed for the 3rd time this year a nice roll type looking
cloud ahead of the southerly change as it came across sydney at about
4-4.30pm yesterday...I was just wondering if this was a regular occurance
with all cold fronts, or only when there is high humidity/temp before it
hits? any explanation would be appreciated thanks :)

i see the list is somewhat quiet today...glad i dont have a tonne of
personal messages to get through.

Matthew Smith

ASWA Committee Member

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       ------http://www.braenet.com.au/~disarm-----

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013

From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Change...
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:12:41 +1000
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Oh what a fizzer...

For the nth time this summer a promising looking lightning display to the 
South was just that and no more... From what was billed on the 7 weather 
news as a vigorous cold front and even looked good on the sat pics, what do 
we get...  Nuffin.

Saw the lightning to the south early evening but from Mt. Crosby this was 
hidden behind an alto sheet, later it appeared to move somewhere along and 
behind the range, by 11:00pm the main lightning source appeared to be in 
the NW say approx the Esk direction.  No thunder, only brief drip or two 
and not enough to record.  Change is well established this morning S/SE 
with light overcast and very light showers, temp mid 20's.  Can't believe 
the folks in Orange have less than 5C already, the lowest min I recorded 
all last winter at Mt. Crosby was 7C, but then this is Queensland.

jrw

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:16:35 +0800
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Admin - Important
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Hi all,

As Ira pointed out earlier, we've been getting a lot of messages which are
not weather releated lately, please try to avoid this, if you feel you must
reply which isnt weather releated, then email the person privatley.

A few other points:

- subjects must relate to weather
- try to make sure the subject on the email is relevant to the message or
reply, this makes it easier for us to sort out our emails.
- snip previous messages embedded in any replies, this makes the email a
lot shorter and easier to download
- try not to use 'thanks mate' type replies - this has been a problem recently
- don't send any thing as attachments, because most large attachments will
bounce and will not get through, plus it makes downloads longer to the ones
that do get through, which can be annoying to people who are not on flat
rate accounts.

Also, a reminder that a lot of us now come on IRC to chat live on austnet
#weather, the channel is open 24 hours, and there is usually at least some
people there during the day, plus we sill have our weekly meeting where
most people attend on Wednesday nights at 9pm EDT. You can download mirc at
http://www.mirc.co.uk/ just use an austnet server, and join #weather.

Thanks.

Jacob

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015

From: "Jason" [kevans at kisser.net.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Vance equals record wind gust in Australia!!!!
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:28:36 +0800
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Hi All
Just got this in from the bom

For interest, the wind reports from Learmonth during the passage of Vance indicated maximum gust of 267kmhr, which equals that recorded at Varanus Island during cyclone Olivia. (Equal to the Australian record).

First Pics of the devastation were on the news today and it looks like Exmouth was in ground zero of an A-Bomb damage bill in the Millions...

One man is missing from the base of the Gulf too

Seeya's

Jason AkA JuNgLeJiM

Karratha W.A

http://www.kisser.net.au/kevans/Weather.html

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From: "Jason" [kevans at kisser.net.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Awsome Sat pic of  TC Vance
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:18:26 +0800
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Hi again all :)
Checkout this Excellent sat pic of TC Vance just b4 it hit Exmouth, it takes a while to bring down but its worth the wait!!!

http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Current/TRCvance080X_N5.jpg

Catchyas

Jason

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017

From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: "Aussie-weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Orange W weather.
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:39:49 +1000
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Hi All,

	 Mid level CU. Still raining lightly at present. 38mm in the guage since
20.55 last night. Many unsealed roads closed out in the West. Many rainfall
reports on the ABC radio ranging from 45mm to 12mm. No action cloud or wind
wise.

	At Orange at 09.30, 18C, 95%, 1010, WNW 5 Knots



 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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018

From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: "Aussie-weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: TC Vance
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:52:24 +1000
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Hi Debbie and any other who don't know this sight,

	Another site that will tell you the wind & gust speeds is at:

 http://www.solar.ifa.hawaii.edu/Tropical/tropical.html



 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:57:10 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: LI server back online
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Hi
Jimmy Deguara here

Our favourite topic for a while was the Lifted Index variable and mapping
server that provided it. It was having problems in the past week or so and
I would advise anyone of not using it under such circumstances as it may
not be as reliable. It is however back online so use it even if you think
the storm season is over. Check it out over the winter months.

Jimmy Deguara
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Jimmy Deguara
Vice President ASWA
from Schofields, Sydney
e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:08:13 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Severe T'storm on the Gold Coast last night
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Hi all,

The "electrical t'storm" did do some damage overnight in the Gold Coast
area.  Most of the damage came from CG's striking trees, and trees
falling on powerlines and houses.  But there were some pergola's and
awnings on some houses that were ripped off from the winds.

This brings up an interesting point (thought for the day perhaps?)
...should their be warnings issued for t'storms with lots of lightning
(CG's) as they can do some damage if they hit trees...

Anthony from Brisbane

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From: "Daniel Weatherhead" [dpw14 at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: ASWA vantage points database!
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:19:51 PST
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Hey Everyone and Happy Meteorological Day!!

At Saturdays Meeting we discussed the idea about making a register or 
database of all the storm viewing or vantage points all of us chasers 
use. I'm sure many of you have experienced chasing in unfamilar 
territory and the utter frustration not being able to gain access to a 
good view point to watch a storm. This is where this database would come 
in. 
I will be compiling it which will take some time, but I am aiming to 
have feedback from most of those out there. Of course this won't work if 
I don't get a good feedback from everyone from all regions. 
Talking on the #weather channel the suggestion was to make it A5 in size 
so it could be transported on a chase, but if the need arises (or if 
people want it) i can make a webpage with infomation. 

(Note: These are drafts, any suggestions would be much appreciated) 
The information will be processed as such:

Name:-e.g. Rooty Hill 
Position:-e.g town, road, then Street Directory ref 
            and/or Map ref (NRMA, RSCV,etc)
View:-e.g West to Sth East,unobstructed/Nth West to Sth East
Notes:-e.g a -description of the venue, 
           -if there is any shelter, 
           -conditions of roads (4wd/dirt/sealed) 
           -any info that is needed e.g in a National Park that   closes 
at 6pm
           -how far out of the way the lookout is and if you have to 
travel thru 10 minutes of dense forest to get there

These are only thoughts that I have come up with so anything I have 
forgotten (and I'm sure there is) please inform me. In addition to this 
I thought it would be good to add Libraries to this database, so if you 
need the lastest satellite picutre you can go to a local library and get 
one as long as it has the facilities.
The information would be displayed like:

Ward Library UWS Nepean
Great Western Hwy, Nth Werrington Campus (maybe a map adjoining)
Mon-Fri 7am-9pm
Sat-Sun 9-5pm
25 terminals available  

Anyway this email is getting too long now.
If the feedback is enough there will be a ASWA member in all states who 
can continue to deal with this, if they want (or if the workload comes 
to great)
This can be a great tool if everyone co-operates. 
All information can be mailed to 

dann_w at hotmail.com

Thanks again

Daniel Weatherhead
=================
ASWA Member
=================

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: "Aussie-weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Orange weather
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:17:47 +1000
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Hi all,
	  Happy World Meteorological Day.

Two of my mails from yesterday morning have turned up at 16.20 this arvo if
anyone is wondering about the rain message.

	Still fine and with a glorious setting sun. Baro has shot up.

At 18.30 ESDT 19C, 55%, 1025, E. 0-5 Knots

 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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From: "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Eyre rainfall
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 01:18:04 PST
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The 3pm observations for WA has Eyre recording 162mm of rain for the 6 
hours to 3pm. Although obviously well short of overall Australian 
rainfall records, I'd be surprised if this isn't a record for this 
station.

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From: bgroughan at telstra.easymail.com.au
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com, [disarm at braenet.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: cold fronts...
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:21:24 +1100
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G'day 
Yes I noticed the same thing yesterday arvo at Glossodia at aprox 6pm
several clouds which were quite low came together from different directions
the air was still,while this was occuring and then the wind gusted for a while,
then the sthly seemed to kick in not long afterwards.


Hi everyone

Yesterday i observed for the 3rd time this year a nice roll type looking
cloud ahead of the southerly change as it came across sydney at about
4-4.30pm yesterday...I was just wondering if this was a regular occurance
with all cold fronts, or only when there is high humidity/temp before it
hits? any explanation would be appreciated thanks :)

i see the list is somewhat quiet today...glad i dont have a tonne of
personal messages to get through.

Matthew Smith

ASWA Committee Member

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:16:33 +1100
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From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: ASWA vantage points database!
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At 18:19 23/03/99 , you wrote:

>At Saturdays Meeting we discussed the idea about making a register or 
>database of all the storm viewing or vantage points all of us chasers 
>use. 

Well, Canberra is dead easy:

a) Mt Ainslie (really big hill - can't miss it)
b) Mt Pleasant (smaller hill next ot Mt Ainslie - better S/SW views)
c) Head north along the Federal Hwy for about 3 hrs till you hit Sydney. ;)

Chris.

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: ASWA vantage points database! - Canberra
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:52:44 +1100
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Chris,

You forgot Red Hill !!!!! (360 degree views to the ranges to the northwest,
west & south, the hills behind Queanbeyan, the airport, Canberra etc.)

Then there's Black Mountain & the Telecom Tower (except in low cloud which =
fog!!) with a great view in all directions(and a revolving restaurant with
*revolting* prices to keep you occupied while the weather comes to you!!!)
Great place to 'reverse chase' - bit like Mt Dandenong!!

Jane
Bayswater (ex Queanbeyan)

>Well, Canberra is dead easy:
>
>a) Mt Ainslie (really big hill - can't miss it)
>b) Mt Pleasant (smaller hill next ot Mt Ainslie - better S/SW views)
>c) Head north along the Federal Hwy for about 3 hrs till you hit Sydney. ;)
>
>Chris.

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From: "Ira Fehlberg" [jra at upnaway.com]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: WA ASWA Meeting Reminder
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:49:10 +0800
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The March WA ASWA meeting will be held at my place, 
6 Clarence st South Perth 
this Saturday night at approx 6:00pm start.
Please mail me personally if you are able to attend.

 The meeting will consist of general buisness, and a talk will be given by
myself on Supercell formation & structure, Tornadoes and chasing tips for
WA roads & conditions

	WA ASWA Representive Ira Fehlberg

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:18:03 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: QLD ASWA - Slight Change of Plan
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Hi all,

Sorry about the extra message, but I think it will be easier if people
can contact me if they can make it (rather then if they cannot make it)
as this will give a much better indication on who is coming, so we can
set up the meeting area.  If you can make the QLD ASWA meeting this
Saturday at 10am (27th of March) at Unit 9/14 Argon St. Sumner Park, can
you please ring me on (07) 3390 4812 or email myself on
cyclone at stealth.com.au or James on jamestorm at ozemail.com.au

It also helps with 'catering' (there'll be tea + coffee facilities
available, and I'll bring some cake/biscuits and maybe other things,
depending on how many people come)  I've been informed that there's a
tavern across the road, so people may want to have lunch there after the
meeting (I won't be supplying lunch to everyone this time...I'm a little
broke at the moment unfortunately!)

Thanks for your co-operation,
Anthony Cornelius
QLD ASWA Co-ordinator

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:26:01 +1000
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From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: gold coast lightning display
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hey all,
as you all already know, there was a storm south of brissy!! well, it came
right over top of us!! i made the smartest decision of my chasing career,
and that was to take last night off work, and i didn't even know we were
gunna get a storm at all. at about 6:30 i noticed lightning to the distance
south and also southwest, so i went on top of the paciic fair parking lot
which is 5 or 6 stories up, good view point if anyone passes through! took
a few photos and went home to have din dins:) constantly checking the
situation, realised it was comin straight for us (YAY!) took a few shots
from the balcony and went back to pacific fair.  this thing was huuge!!!
non stop CC lightning. there was also a couple more smaller storms more to
the s - sse. got shitloads of snaps!! also saw some freaky stuff i've never
seen b4! blue lightning!!! they weren't actual strikes that i saw but just
very bright flourescent blueish colour!! anyone like to fill me in??
anyway, after finishing the whole roll of film on this display, went back
to the car to replace the film (only had 100 asa:() all of a sudden it
started to rain, so i went to open the back door to my station wagon and
got hit with massive winds and strong rain!! it felt like it was gunna rip
the door off back over the car. so i just layed in the car and watched with
awe as CG's hit within a km. loud rumbles shook the car! unfortunately i
couldn't use my camera in during this period, but got a few more pics of
the tail end of it!
	i did get a few CG lightning photos, which makes it the first ones i've
taken since those ones at the end of '97!!
what a great night!!!!!
bye
steve from gold coast

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From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: lightning photos
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oh yeah...
and i will be getting the photos back first thing tomorrow morning!! so i
will try to put them on my website sap!! 
steve - gold coast

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Yea Storm Chase report 27/1/99
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:41:31 +1100
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Yea Storm Chase report 27/1/99 has been updated tonight with the written
report and two extra photos of the Yea storm going up. (the page loads
slowly - so read on while the images are loading - explanation of why is
below the link)

http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/27_1_99.htm

This is now where I plead loudly for help from those of you with rather more
than my *very* novice level of experience with images - how do I get the
size of the images (and therefore the upload time) down to a manageable
level without sacrificing the quality???????

Many thanks in anticipation,

Jane
Bayswater, Melbourne

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From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: gold coast lightning display
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:45:18 +1000
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Hey well done Steve.

I was standing on Mt Coot-tha during this storm, which was mostly sheet
lightning to me. It certainly looked from my location that it was right over
you.

So when do we get to see your pics? I took a few but, as I said, it was all
sheet lightning.

ANTHONY: I saw a couple (of people) in the rotunda on Mt Coot-tha, both with
quite new-looking cameras and expensive sturdy tripods, and promptly asked
them what they thought of the lightning situation and what they thought
might happen. I was quick to ask whether the guy was YOU - as I thought you
might be up there! Do you have a better vantage point where you are? Or was
it just not worth it for you, being mainly sheet lightning? It was very
interesting to talk to them nonetheless - fellow storm-chasers, who,
unfortunately are not connected to the internet. (I was also quick to inform
them of this wonderful list!)

Cheers!

Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
martyp at dynamite.com.au
Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
ICQ: 11790565

-----Original Message-----
>hey all,
>as you all already know, there was a storm south of brissy!! well, it came
>right over top of us!! i made the smartest decision of my chasing career,
>and that was to take last night off work, and i didn't even know we were
>gunna get a storm at all. at about 6:30 i noticed lightning to the distance
>south and also southwest, so i went on top of the paciic fair parking lot
>which is 5 or 6 stories up, good view point if anyone passes through! took
>a few photos and went home to have din dins:) constantly checking the
>situation, realised it was comin straight for us (YAY!) took a few shots
>from the balcony and went back to pacific fair.  this thing was huuge!!!
>non stop CC lightning. there was also a couple more smaller storms more to
>the s - sse. got shitloads of snaps!! also saw some freaky stuff i've never
>seen b4! blue lightning!!! they weren't actual strikes that i saw but just
>very bright flourescent blueish colour!! anyone like to fill me in??
>anyway, after finishing the whole roll of film on this display, went back
>to the car to replace the film (only had 100 asa:() all of a sudden it
>started to rain, so i went to open the back door to my station wagon and
>got hit with massive winds and strong rain!! it felt like it was gunna rip
>the door off back over the car. so i just layed in the car and watched with
>awe as CG's hit within a km. loud rumbles shook the car! unfortunately i
>couldn't use my camera in during this period, but got a few more pics of
>the tail end of it!
> i did get a few CG lightning photos, which makes it the first ones i've
>taken since those ones at the end of '97!!
>what a great night!!!!!
>bye
>steve from gold coast

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From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: lightning photos
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:46:16 +1000
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D'oh.. just missed ya message!

-----Original Message-----
>oh yeah...
>and i will be getting the photos back first thing tomorrow morning!! so i
>will try to put them on my website sap!! 
>steve - gold coast

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From: "Ira Fehlberg" [jra at upnaway.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Re: Aussie weather ppl footy tipping comp! Prizes too!! & its free!!
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:18:58 +0800
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  I thought for fun that I'd run a footy tipping comp for any weather
people ( or anyone else ) who love footy as much as me!! I encourage all to
join as it will be heaps of fun through the year ( we can all brag on irc)
and I have some great prizes!! These are courtesy of my friend Tom Grazulis
at The Tornado Project online. I will set up a Html page with the scores
each week and my picks will be on there each week so everyone can see them.
This is the first and only time that I will post this letter as I've be
going on about irrelevent mail on the list, I think you'll agree that this
is an exception. So here's the low down, and rules

1) Your picks must be recieved by me, by email no later than on friday
5:00pm est. A copy of the fixtures for each week can be seen at the AFL
site at http://www.afl.com.au/matches/default_0.htm

2) The picks must be sent to my personal email, jra at upnaway.com DO NOT SEND
THEM TO THE WEATHER MAILING LIST!!. send them to me

3) If your picks are late or not in at all you will get all the away teams
for that round.

4) When you send your picks send the names of the teams you think will win
only.

5) You may pick a team to win, lose, draw.

6) Scoring will be 1 point for a win, 0 for a loss and 10 if you correctley
pick a draw.

7) To it make it fun the competition will consist of a few samller comps
too. Each week you must also pick your "sure thing game" this is the game
that you think you know the result of for sure. It can be any game you
like. If you get it right then your still "in" if you get your sure thing
game wrong then your out of it, last man standing wins! There will be a
prize of a blown up picture of the spectacular Northam tornado!

8) You must also pick your "top eight" in the order that you think they
will finish. These dont have to be in till the end of round 5.

9) The winner is the person with the highest score at the end of the 22
round home and away season.

10) Prizes: Each seperate comp, "sure thing", "top eight", plus the total
winner will recieve their choice of any of the amazing poster's seen at the
Tornado Project Online site, have a peek at em at,
http://www.tornadoproject.com/products/postpage.htm#top
If I happen to win any of the comps second place will get the prize!

11) So when you send your picks to me you must send the the name of the
eight teams that you hink will win, plus, your sure thing game. A typical
email should look like this

West Coast
Fremantle
Hawks
Sydney
Crows
Nth Melb
Port Adel
Richmond

sure thing game, West Coast to beat Collingwood.

12) So thats it! The AFL starts this week so you must have your picks in by
Friday this week, dont miss out as there is NO COST and some great prizes
up for grabs!!

				Ira Fehlberg

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:19:36 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi Steve,

In regards to the blue lightning you saw, I've heard that different
colour lightning strikes correspond to the moisture content in the air. 
White lightning strikes form when there is not much moisture, but
coloured lightning strikes form when there are different values of
moisture in the air...can anyone else provide more information?  

Anthony Cornelius

steve baynham wrote:
> 
> hey all,
> as you all already know, there was a storm south of brissy!! well, it came
> right over top of us!! i made the smartest decision of my chasing career,
> and that was to take last night off work, and i didn't even know we were
> gunna get a storm at all. at about 6:30 i noticed lightning to the distance
> south and also southwest, so i went on top of the paciic fair parking lot
> which is 5 or 6 stories up, good view point if anyone passes through! took
> a few photos and went home to have din dins:) constantly checking the
> situation, realised it was comin straight for us (YAY!) took a few shots
> from the balcony and went back to pacific fair.  this thing was huuge!!!
> non stop CC lightning. there was also a couple more smaller storms more to
> the s - sse. got shitloads of snaps!! also saw some freaky stuff i've never
> seen b4! blue lightning!!! they weren't actual strikes that i saw but just
> very bright flourescent blueish colour!! anyone like to fill me in??
> anyway, after finishing the whole roll of film on this display, went back
> to the car to replace the film (only had 100 asa:() all of a sudden it
> started to rain, so i went to open the back door to my station wagon and
> got hit with massive winds and strong rain!! it felt like it was gunna rip
> the door off back over the car. so i just layed in the car and watched with
> awe as CG's hit within a km. loud rumbles shook the car! unfortunately i
> couldn't use my camera in during this period, but got a few more pics of
> the tail end of it!
>         i did get a few CG lightning photos, which makes it the first ones i've
> taken since those ones at the end of '97!!
> what a great night!!!!!
> bye
> steve from gold coast

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:38:13 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi Marty and all,

I was going to reply personally, but I think this will apply to many
people on the list.  (Well parts of it)

I've got a horrible view to my south here, I wanted to go to a better
advantage point but I don't have a car/license yet, and I tried talking
(which ended up into arguing...) with my parents to take me, but to no
avail!  I was dying to get out there, there were a lot of crawlers and
CG's (you can tell by the type of sheet lightning...) and I bet if you
went further south, you would have gotten a great lightning display! 
(ie, not as much sheet, but more crawlers and CG's)

Ok, here's the part that is of interest to everyone...I think it's great
that there are many other active weather lovers out there!  I think it's
terrific, awesome, fantastic...(ok settle Anthony..) this really means
that ASWA will have great potential amongst all.  I'm sure many people
without net access will enjoy going to meetings, and looking at each
other's pics, video footage etc.  Secondly, I know I handed out some
little paper cards to the members who attended the last QLD meeting,
I'll be bringing them again and distributing them to new members who
haven't yet been to a meeting (I really do hope everyone makes an effort
to come).  Basically, what it is, is if you're in a position analagous
to Marti's, and you meet with some people who do not know about ASWA, to
give them a quick summary on what ASWA is, and hand them one of the
paper cards with my contact details on them.  Alternatively, if you
haven't received the cards yet, I'd suggest you carry your state
co-ordinator's phone number with you, and just give it out to anyone who
shows an interest in weather (but check this up with your state
co-ordinator first, they may not want their phone number distributed
like that) however for any QLD'ers reading this, please hand out my
details to anyone who is interested in ASWA!

Thanks,

Anthony Cornelius
QLD ASWA Co-ordinator

Marty wrote:
> 
> Hey well done Steve.
> 
> I was standing on Mt Coot-tha during this storm, which was mostly sheet
> lightning to me. It certainly looked from my location that it was right over
> you.
> 
> So when do we get to see your pics? I took a few but, as I said, it was all
> sheet lightning.
> 
> ANTHONY: I saw a couple (of people) in the rotunda on Mt Coot-tha, both with
> quite new-looking cameras and expensive sturdy tripods, and promptly asked
> them what they thought of the lightning situation and what they thought
> might happen. I was quick to ask whether the guy was YOU - as I thought you
> might be up there! Do you have a better vantage point where you are? Or was
> it just not worth it for you, being mainly sheet lightning? It was very
> interesting to talk to them nonetheless - fellow storm-chasers, who,
> unfortunately are not connected to the internet. (I was also quick to inform
> them of this wonderful list!)
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Marty.
> Brisbane, Australia
> martyp at dynamite.com.au
> Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
> Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
> ICQ: 11790565

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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning Colour
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:57:24 +1000
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For those with a copy of "The Australian Weather Book" by Keith Colls & 
Richard Whitaker, there is a great shot of pink lightning emanating from a 
green storm cloud on page 11.  While it is not credited, I think this photo 
is actually a shot of the Brisbane hail storm (Jan 85 I think...) 
approaching, which at it's peak delivered 50mm rain in 10 minutes, to say 
nothing of cricket ball sized hail coming in at a 30 deg angle to the 
horizontal.  A hail stone from this storm actually managed to puncture the 
metal cladding surrounding my Solahart hot water system.

Document: 990323.htm
Updated: 29 March 1999

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