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001 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au] lightning photo
002 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] lightning photo
003 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Yesterday Arvo Activity
004 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Bellenden Ker rainfall in Cyclone Rona
005 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Bellenden Ker rainfall in Cyclone Rona
006 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Large cumulus in Sydney
007 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] north sydney storms
008 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] NT potential 'situation'?
009 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] north sydney storms
010 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] NT potential 'situation'?
011 "James Harris (819)" [JH at intravel.com.au] Rain Gauge
012 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Port Macq Storms
013 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au] Rain Gauge
014 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] More very heavy rain in Queensland
015 Ross Portas [rportas at mindless.com] ABC News report.....
016 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Port Macq Storms
017 Ross Portas [rportas at mindless.com] ABC News report.....
018 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Rain Gauge
019 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Rain Gauge
020 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au] Rain Gauge
021 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Rain Gauge
022 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Rain Gauge
023 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Re: Current Conditions
024 "James Harris (819)" [JH at intravel.com.au] Rain Gauge
025 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Storms!!!
026 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au] Re: Current Conditions
027 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Small cell hittin Port now
028 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com] ABC News report.....
029 "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au] Telstra
030 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au] Chase
031 "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au] Rain Gauge
032 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] Official weather station
033 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] ABC News report.....
034 "Ira Fehlberg" [jra at upnaway.com] (no subject)
035 "Ira Fehlberg" [jra at upnaway.com] ABC News report.....
036 "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au] Storms west of Ballina
037 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] WA severe storm advice
038 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Rain Gauge
039 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au] Chase
040 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] Broad scale patterns
041 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au] Dumb question on barometric pressure
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001
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From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: lightning photo
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hey guys,
i don't think i mentioned this to anyone, but a band from melbourne found
one of my lightning photos on the aussie weather site. and they wanted to
use it on the cover of one of their 1st cd single. i got a free copy, and
the band aren't that bad. anyhoo........here is the cdcover i scanned..
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany/images/cdcover.jpg
feels good to have ya picture on something like that, the cd is being
distributed throughout Europe!!
stevooooo
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002
From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: lightning photo
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:53:20 +1000
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Wow! Fantastic - well done & congratulations, Steve!! How grouse!!
Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
martyp at dynamite.com.au
Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
ICQ: 11790565
-----Original Message-----
>hey guys,
>i don't think i mentioned this to anyone, but a band from melbourne found
>one of my lightning photos on the aussie weather site. and they wanted to
>use it on the cover of one of their 1st cd single. i got a free copy, and
>the band aren't that bad. anyhoo........here is the cdcover i scanned..
>http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany/images/cdcover.jpg
>
>feels good to have ya picture on something like that, the cd is being
>distributed throughout Europe!!
>stevooooo
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003
From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 08:58:25 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Yesterday Arvo Activity
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4 or 5 small cells, one decent cell formed yesterday in the Hastings Valley
area. Most died once moving off the ranges, suggesting little instability
in the lower / mid levels. Decent cell on the ranges (as seen by those with
radar) had decent "pink" cells throughtout the life of the storm. One
interesting point waas the lack (or visible lack of) lightning within the
cell.
Another warm humid day here with forecast of showers with possible storm.
Heres hoping..............
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004
From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 08:46:01 +1000
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Bellenden Ker rainfall in Cyclone Rona
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No - I love Telstra! As I spend soo much on Telstra every 3 months!
>"truffles/ at xenon.net" 005
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 10:20:41 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bellenden Ker rainfall in Cyclone Rona
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That's a dare, fellow aussie-weather people:-) What would you rather?
1) The rain guage unfortunately kept empty or
2) The radio communications maintained instead.
Maintaining communications is, after-all, Telstra's main job outside of
a overly keen interest in weather by some. This is particularly true
when confronted with extreme weather.
Maybe it's as simple as inaccessibility during that period of extreme
weather. Time to lobby for an AWS at Bellenden Ker:-)
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote:
>
> No - I love Telstra! As I spend soo much on Telstra every 3 months!
>
> "truffles/ at xenon.net"
> Please respond to aussie-weather at world.std.com
>
> To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'"
> cc: (bcc: Paul Mossman/LCO/NSW_AG)
> Subject: RE: aus-wx: Bellenden Ker rainfall in Cyclone Rona
>
> Hey! .. is there ANYTHING else ya all care to bag Telstra for??????
> .. let's not be shy now.
>
> rals
> Brissie
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006
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 07:46:04 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Large cumulus in Sydney
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I saw this development Jimmy from my place. It didn't rain here at all
but it was interesting to watch the orographic effect (thought i'd chuck
in a big word) as it built up from Oberon area.
Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> There are interesting large cumulus around NW and W Sydney at the moment.
> One is already prducign a heavy shower on the mtns but is difficult to see
> by the average observer. Another large cumulus had developed to my W and
> may approach Richmond. Another is approachign Michael Bath but it depends
> if it develops and how quickly it develops.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
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007
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 07:53:41 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Yes, I think I saw that one too. I had a good look at it from a Lookout
in blackheath. It looked good from here. I'm still learning about all
this stuff but we watched a great congestus build on Saturday just gone.
It formed very quickly out past lithgow way. Does that mean strong
updrafts? How do you observe these signs?
Lindsay
Matt Smith wrote:
>
> Just a mail to tell everyone what i observed today..
>
> North of sydney at around 5pm i noticed a cell starting to anvil out,
> looked more like an atomic bomb blast than a storm(got a couple of good
> photos), had some strong updraughts feeding into it and it was
> precipitating (white shaft could have been hail?)
> no lightning was observed (although plenty of static on the radio)
> At 5.30 as that cell moved east towards the coast and died off another
> cell was building from the same place the last one had , my attention was
> drawn to it and after 15 minutes 3 CG's occured at once, and 1 more 5
> minutes later, i then had to leave for work,but this one died off around
> sunset i think, as i couldnt see any activity when i went outside around
> 8pm. seemed like your typical pulse type cells..
>
> Currently its warm and humid here 25 degree's DP is 18 and relative
> humidity is 65%
> Whilst out at richmond its 22 degree's DP is 19 and RH is 83%
>
> Matt Smith
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008
From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: NT potential 'situation'?
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:50:02 +1100
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Interesting little circulation building up in the Darwin region at the
moment. They are expecting a pressure drop from 1004 to 1001 within the next
3 hours, with fairly sizeable north -> south pressure gradients even now.
Weather in Darwin at the moment looks decidedly monsoonal with a couple of
heavy showers on the Harbour, overcast & gloomy (can you smell the mould
yet??). JCU brings it up well - this may bear watching ove the next 24
hours - it's been developing slowly over the past 4 days.
Jane
Bayswater, Melbourne
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Hi Lindsay
Saturday was a stormy day, but they stayed mainly on the ranges and in the
hunter with a couple down south as well
You just look for signs of the clouds getting larger very quickly, sort of
like a bubbling effect and the clouds constantly get larger(ie you watch
them, go inside for 5 minutes, and come back out and see if there is any
major difference in size), also look for Pilius and an anvil or see if they
have an overshooting top...
regards
Matt Smith
>Yes, I think I saw that one too. I had a good look at it from a Lookout
>in blackheath. It looked good from here. I'm still learning about all
>this stuff but we watched a great congestus build on Saturday just gone.
>It formed very quickly out past lithgow way. Does that mean strong
>updrafts? How do you observe these signs?
>
>
>Lindsay
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Hi Jane
Also keep an eye out just to the WSW of there (north of the plbera area of
WA) models indicate a TC there and the low has formed today.. will be a
very interesting week for everyone i would suspect (except SE QLD ;)
Matt Smith
>Interesting little circulation building up in the Darwin region at the
>moment. They are expecting a pressure drop from 1004 to 1001 within the next
>3 hours, with fairly sizeable north -> south pressure gradients even now.
>
>Weather in Darwin at the moment looks decidedly monsoonal with a couple of
>heavy showers on the Harbour, overcast & gloomy (can you smell the mould
>yet??). JCU brings it up well - this may bear watching ove the next 24
>hours - it's been developing slowly over the past 4 days.
>
>Jane
>Bayswater, Melbourne
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From: "James Harris (819)" [JH at intravel.com.au]
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Hi all,
I am looking at buying a rain gauge for myself. Does anyone know what sort I
should get (Is there particular brands or models you should buy), where you
can get them (In Sydney) and approx how much.
Thanks heaps.
James Harris
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012
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:27:03 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Port Macq Storms
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Medium Cell building now to the South, SW and West. Should be a better day
today. Seems to be more instability in the lower levels so things should
rocket today! Wohoo!
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From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain Gauge
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James,
You can get a Nylex 1000 for about $35 from most hardware shops. These are
the circular shaped ones with an inner measuring tube. They can measure up
to 200mm. Do not get one of the cheaper wedge shaped ones as they are not
as accurate.
The BoM will accept readings taken in a Nylex 1000. Always measure to the
nearest 0.2mm and round up to the nearest 0.2. Try to measure at 9am each
day as this is when all the BoM official sites are measured. If you become
an official site (I have one at Oakhurst #067118) the BoM provides you with
one of their standard gauges, which is similar to the nylex 1000, except a
lot more accurate for the small amounts, larger, and a lot tougher: heavy
duty metal.
regards, Michael
At 13:21 16/03/1999 +1100, you wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>I am looking at buying a rain gauge for myself. Does anyone know what sort I
>should get (Is there particular brands or models you should buy), where you
>can get them (In Sydney) and approx how much.
>
>Thanks heaps.
>
>James Harris
*==========================================================*
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Australian Severe Weather
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014
From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: More very heavy rain in Queensland
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Babinda scored another 473mm in the 24 hours to 0900 this morning,
taking them up over 1200 for the week.
Given Bellenden Ker is near Babinda, their readings could also be
interesting (if there are any) when they come in.
Blair Trewin
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:52:19 +1000
From: Ross Portas [rportas at mindless.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: ABC News report.....
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Hi all,
This is from the ABC website's Weather news section.....
Miner worried for life after
freak storm
Tuesday 16 March, 1999 (8:23am AEDT)
A West Australian goldfields miner says he thought he
was going
to die in a freak storm, which he has been told was
probably a
tornado.
Jim Grundy says he was travelling from Lendster to
Mount Keith
late yesterday, when a swirling cloud band the size
of six football
fields in diameter hovered around his car.
He says it blew trees across the road, ripped off one
of the
windscreen wipers, and sent rocks and hail pelting
into the car
windows.
Mr Grundy says while he feared for his life, it was
also an
amazing sight to watch.
"Even though you felt something was wrong, and
something
imminent was about to happen, you couldn't resist
looking at it,
you just couldn't help it because I've never seen it
before in my
life," he said.
"I've been in cyclones in Port Hedland and
everywhere, but I've
never seen anything like this."
The Weather Bureau in Perth has talked to Mr Grundy
about the
storm and says it seems as if he went through a
tornado.
A Bureau forecaster says while tornadoes are probably
quite
common in Australia, they are not often reported
because they
occur inland in sparsely populated areas.
Police in Kalgoorlie say there have been no other
reports of
damage.
Do any of you Western Australian people have any more info on this?
Cheers,
Rosco.
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Port Macq Storms
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Heavy Rain falling now in Port from an off-shoot Congestus from cells
developing westwards.
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:03:28 +1000
From: Ross Portas [rportas at mindless.com]
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sorry about the cut and paste effort on that.... it looked ok before i sent
it :-(
Ross Portas wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This is from the ABC website's Weather news section.....
>
> Miner worried for life after
> freak storm
> Tuesday 16 March, 1999 (8:23am AEDT)
>
> A West Australian goldfields miner says he thought he
> was going
> to die in a freak storm, which he has been told was
> probably a
> tornado.
>
> Jim Grundy says he was travelling from Lendster to
> Mount Keith
> late yesterday, when a swirling cloud band the size
> of six football
> fields in diameter hovered around his car.
>
> He says it blew trees across the road, ripped off one
> of the
> windscreen wipers, and sent rocks and hail pelting
> into the car
> windows.
>
> Mr Grundy says while he feared for his life, it was
> also an
> amazing sight to watch.
>
> "Even though you felt something was wrong, and
> something
> imminent was about to happen, you couldn't resist
> looking at it,
> you just couldn't help it because I've never seen it
> before in my
> life," he said.
>
> "I've been in cyclones in Port Hedland and
> everywhere, but I've
> never seen anything like this."
>
> The Weather Bureau in Perth has talked to Mr Grundy
> about the
> storm and says it seems as if he went through a
> tornado.
>
> A Bureau forecaster says while tornadoes are probably
> quite
> common in Australia, they are not often reported
> because they
> occur inland in sparsely populated areas.
>
> Police in Kalgoorlie say there have been no other
> reports of
> damage.
>
> Do any of you Western Australian people have any more info on this?
>
> Cheers,
> Rosco.
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:47:39 +1100
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From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain Gauge
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Hi James
I picked mine up from Hardware House , they only had 1 kind in stock, it
was $10.50, it holds 120mm(Its called "Rain Gauge 500" or something like
that, dont be fooled though) but the only bad point about it is that it has
a mark every 2mm, not every mm as i would have preffered, although it will
do the job until i can find a better one..
Matt Smith
>
>Hi all,
>
>I am looking at buying a rain gauge for myself. Does anyone know what sort I
>should get (Is there particular brands or models you should buy), where you
>can get them (In Sydney) and approx how much.
>
>Thanks heaps.
>
>James Harris
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019
From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rain Gauge
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:41:42 +1000
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Hi James,
I bought a cheap (& nasty) rain gauge from BBC hardware (of all places),
they had two models, the $16 simple V shaped plastic thing, and a more
expensive ($30+) funnel + measuring cylinder. Either will give you
reasonable readings, the latter is better protected against effects of
evaporation. You can also quite easily make your own.
However, no rain gauge will give you an accurate reading unless it can be
mounted correctly, i.e., 1m off the ground at least twice the distance
horizontally as the height of any tall objects (house, tree, etc) in the
vicinity. This has always caused me grief, as basically this implies an
open paddock...
Regards
jrw
-----Original Message-----
Hi all,
I am looking at buying a rain gauge for myself. Does anyone know what sort
I
should get (Is there particular brands or models you should buy), where you
can get them (In Sydney) and approx how much.
Thanks heaps.
James Harris
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:55:39 +1000
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain Gauge
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james,
i just recently bought one two weeks ago from big W for about $19! its a
nylex, holds up to 150mm. from 0 - 10mm there are marks every .5mm, then
after that its every 1mm. so its pretty accurate i guess. i think it was
teh only kind they had at the time.
steve
At 01:21 PM 3/16/99 +1100, you wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>I am looking at buying a rain gauge for myself. Does anyone know what sort I
>should get (Is there particular brands or models you should buy), where you
>can get them (In Sydney) and approx how much.
>
>Thanks heaps.
>
>James Harris
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021
From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain Gauge
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:11:56 +1100 (EST)
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>
> Hi James,
>
(snip)
> However, no rain gauge will give you an accurate reading unless it can be
> mounted correctly, i.e., 1m off the ground at least twice the distance
> horizontally as the height of any tall objects (house, tree, etc) in the
> vicinity. This has always caused me grief, as basically this implies an
> open paddock...
>
> Regards
> jrw
0.3 metres, actually (for the standard gauge that means the base is
sitting on the ground). 4x the height of an obstruction is ideal, but
2x is OK.
Of course, it is pretty well impossible to achieve this in your
average backyard (which is why you won't find too many backyard
sites in the high-quality rainfall database). If you're keen, don't
let yourself be put off by that - just do as well as you can (i.e.
don't put the gauge up against a wall). There are plenty of official
Bureau sites that don't meet the 2x standard either - we just don't
use them for high-quality climate records. (From the climate point
of view, a permanent obstruction is also less of a problem than a
time-varying one - if the gauge is too close to a building but both
the building and the gauge have been in exactly the same spot for
the last 100 years, it's not the problem that it would be if a tree
has suddenly been cut down or such like).
Blair Trewin
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From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:19:41 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain Gauge
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James - I have a Davis rain collector which is accurate to 0.2mm linked to
a weather wizard III collects all time and clears its memory at 9am every
day.
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From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:21:11 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Re: Current Conditions
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Whoevere has Internet access can they please say whether there are any
severe TS advices / warnigs issued yet, and what the Satpics show, or radar
shows?
Thanx. Paul.
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From: "James Harris (819)" [JH at intravel.com.au]
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Well looks like Ill be doing some rain gauge shopping on Thursday night.
Thanks for all the options given everyone !!!, Ill probably try and get one
of those Nylex ones. I'm a bit worried though about the dimensions for
placement (1 metre off the ground,horizontal and vertical distance),
unfortunately we have a 2 Storey house and it is surrounded by alot of high
trees. The only place I can think of is to find a place on the roof or stick
a large pole in the ground, Any ideas????
James H
===== Original Message from aussie-weather at world.std.com at 16/03/99 12:55
>james,
>i just recently bought one two weeks ago from big W for about $19! its a
>nylex, holds up to 150mm. from 0 - 10mm there are marks every .5mm, then
>after that its every 1mm. so its pretty accurate i guess. i think it was
>teh only kind they had at the time.
>steve
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From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:30:01 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Storms!!!
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Another small - moderate cell is now passing over us.....lovely rumbles of
thunder.........looking like a good afternoon as long as the instability
holds out.
Paul at Port.
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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: Current Conditions
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:40:16 +1100
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Hi Paul,
A severe storm advice has just been posted for areas north of Kempsey but
not for the Port Macquarie area. The latest radar image shows an area of
10-20mm/hr over you and an area of 40-100 near Kempsey.
Matthew Piper
TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCASTSEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGYNEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1429 on Tuesday the 16th of March 1999
ebThis advice affects people in the following weather districts:
North West Slopes and Plains northeast of Collarenebri, Wee Waa, Boggabri,
Tamworth and WalchaNorthern TablelandsMid-North Coast north of Kempsey
Northern Rivers inland and south of Lismore
Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area this afternoon andevening.
Some of these may be severe, bringing large hailstones, damaging winds and
very heavy rainfall.
The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should:
* put vehicles under cover * move indoors away from windows
During and after storms people should: * take extreme care when driving
* beware of fallen trees and power lines
If your house is damaged contact your local State Emergency Service unit,
listed under "S" in the White Pages, for emergency assistance. Don't use the
telephone during storms.
TV CRAWL: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current for North West Plains, Northern
Tablelands, Mid-North Coast and Northern Rivers.
NOT FOR BROADCAST: This advice message is valid until 8pm.
-----Original Message-----
>
>Whoevere has Internet access can they please say whether there are any
>severe TS advices / warnigs issued yet, and what the Satpics show, or radar
>shows?
>
>Thanx. Paul.
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From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:42:15 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Small cell hittin Port now
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Heavy rain, fresh downdrafts accompanied by this cell. Not bad falls of
rain either. 2nd storm for today (just thought I'd rub it in guys.....) :-)
Looks more promising westwards yet again.
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From: "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: ABC News report.....
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:48:05 PST
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Six football fields in diameter eh? Let's see, 6 x 170m = 1.02km. If
this guy's estimation is right that's f*$#ing huge!! I guarantee he
wasn't in the middle of it or there wouldn't be a witness. The fact he
got mesmerised by it is a reminder to those of us who are fortunate
enough to witness one to get the hell out when it gets within a couple
of km, no matter how good it looks
>From: Ross Portas
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com"
>Subject: aus-wx: ABC News report.....
>Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:52:19 +1000
>
>Hi all,
>
>This is from the ABC website's Weather news section.....
>
> Miner worried for life after
> freak storm
> Tuesday 16 March, 1999 (8:23am AEDT)
>
> A West Australian goldfields miner says he thought
he
>was going
> to die in a freak storm, which he has been told was
>probably a
> tornado.
>
> Jim Grundy says he was travelling from Lendster to
>Mount Keith
> late yesterday, when a swirling cloud band the size
>of six football
> fields in diameter hovered around his car.
>
> He says it blew trees across the road, ripped off
one
>of the
> windscreen wipers, and sent rocks and hail pelting
>into the car
> windows.
>
> Mr Grundy says while he feared for his life, it was
>also an
> amazing sight to watch.
>
> "Even though you felt something was wrong, and
>something
> imminent was about to happen, you couldn't resist
>looking at it,
> you just couldn't help it because I've never seen it
>before in my
> life," he said.
>
> "I've been in cyclones in Port Hedland and
>everywhere, but I've
> never seen anything like this."
>
> The Weather Bureau in Perth has talked to Mr Grundy
>about the
> storm and says it seems as if he went through a
>tornado.
>
> A Bureau forecaster says while tornadoes are
probably
>quite
> common in Australia, they are not often reported
>because they
> occur inland in sparsely populated areas.
>
> Police in Kalgoorlie say there have been no other
>reports of
> damage.
>
>Do any of you Western Australian people have any more info on this?
>
>Cheers,
>Rosco.
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From: "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Telstra
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:24:32 +1100
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Hey rals,
You know what telstra stands for....don't you????? This is my version......
Terribly Efficient at Letting Stupid Turds Ruin Australia.......
On that note I'm leaving.........
See Ya's
John
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:02:27 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,
James, Craig and myself are going on a last minute chase to the border
lands of SE QLD. Craig's mobile is 0416 062439 if anyone can keep us
updated!
Also...if anyone can get in contact with Michael Bath and tell him I
can't ring him tonight, it would be greatly appreciated...please give
him my apologies!
Anthony
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From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather Net" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Rain Gauge
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:29:09 +1000
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Noted James' problem with the rain gauge siting, and thought
I'd invite comment on how we have compromised here, where we have a problem with
buildings, trees etc around the office (no two storey buildings
around).
We've mounted the funnel end of the gauge on a pole a couple
of meters above a flat (almost!) roof, attached a tube to the bottom of the
funnel, and this carries the rain down to ground level where we can conveniently
reach to measure the rain. Logic tells us that very small rain events will
probably not even reach the bottom of the tube, and we miss them - however,
falls that small are of little interest in agriculture. Two gauges within 1 km
of the one described generally agree within acceptable ranges, so we are fairly
confidant we are getting what we want from our rather unusual mounting system.
>From observation, we do not consider splashing from the roof a problem, even in
extremely heavy storms which we have experienced recently.
BTW, we do not claim to be an official recording
station - the info is for our clients' and our crop water requirement
calculations - additionally, we have three AWS's in the field, measuring wind
runs, solar radiation, rain, temperatures, plus another 5 automatic rain gauges
(some with solarimeters) scattered around the district - enough data to choke a
bloke!
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032
From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Official weather station
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:15:23 PST
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Hi Michael,
The principal at my school wants to try to upgrade Wycheproof to an
"official" site...
What does this entail?
We're going for a grant of $2500 to help cover expenses.
I'd appreciate it if you could tell me:
(a) what equipment is required (i.e. standard brands of gauge,
thermometers, barometers etc..)
(b) what guarantees of coverage are required (i.e. every 3 hours, 6
hours, etc...can I go on holiday :) )
(c) who calibrates equipment etc...
(d) who to contact at the BoM?
Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.
>The BoM will accept readings taken in a Nylex 1000.
>
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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: ABC News report.....
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 23:49:19 PST
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Hi Chris!
I'm pretty sure no "tornado" that they saw was that wide...but I'm
reasonably sure base circulations in supercells can extend that far. Not
that they necessarily saw either. Check this out for a supercell and
tell me it's not possible...
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/misc/GV714721.GIF
Kevin from Wycheproof.
>Six football fields in diameter eh? Let's see, 6 x 170m = 1.02km. If
>this guy's estimation is right that's f*$#ing huge!! I guarantee he
>wasn't in the middle of it or there wouldn't be a witness. The fact he
>got mesmerised by it is a reminder to those of us who are fortunate
>enough to witness one to get the hell out when it gets within a couple
>of km, no matter how good it looks
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From: "Ira Fehlberg" [jra at upnaway.com]
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:00:50 +0800
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Just a quick note to say that WA had two tornadoes yesterday! they were
about 200-300k's north of Kalgoolie. I just got off the hone from Barry at
the bureau and they are yet to speak to one witness but one they spoke to
looks like he may have been side swiped by the tornado or the RFD. Punched
out some windows in his car. Also hail as big as "door knobs" fell in one
small town and another "pub" town had hail two feet deep. Thats allthe
details i have at the moment. Barry said he will phone we later this week
with more details.
By the way as youcan see im back online after my second computer crash in
months, people please, please back up all your work,
Ira Fehlberg
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From: "Ira Fehlberg" [jra at upnaway.com]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: ABC News report.....
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:05:47 +0800
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Yeah looks like he may have hit spinup of the RFD or even the RFD itself.
----------
> From: Kevin Phyland
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: ABC News report.....
> Date: Tuesday, 16 March 1999 15:49
>
> Hi Chris!
>
> I'm pretty sure no "tornado" that they saw was that wide...but I'm
> reasonably sure base circulations in supercells can extend that far. Not
> that they necessarily saw either. Check this out for a supercell and
> tell me it's not possible...
>
> http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/misc/GV714721.GIF
>
> Kevin from Wycheproof.
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From: "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Storms west of Ballina
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 19:56:58 +1100
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Howdy Everyone,
Looks like there are 2 cells west of here at the moment....one west of
Lismore & the other S or S/W of Casino.
Quite a bit of electrical activity in both, but are slow moving so they
might die down in the next hr or so.........we'll wait & see what
happens..........
I've just spoke to guy on the UHF (19:50) from Spring Grove which is between
Lismore & Casino..........he's saying that it's starting to come down
there....lots of lightning towards Casino......he thinks the storm is
heading North..........time to get the camera out!!!
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:12:04 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: WA severe storm advice
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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BUREAU METEOROLOGY
PRIORITY
FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY PERTH
ISSUED AT 3.25 PM TUESDAY 16/03/1999
PEOPLE IN THE GOLDFIELDS NORTHEAST OF A LINE FROM LAVERTON TO WILUNA
ARE ADVISED OF THE RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS THIS AFTERNOON AND
EVENING.
STORMS MAY BE ACCOMPANIED BY HAIL AND STRONG WINDS THAT COULD RESULT
IN DAMAGE TO PROPERTY. FLASH FLOODING IS POSSIBLE.
PEOPLE ARE ADVISED TO KEEP A LOOKOUT FOR THUNDERSTORMS AND, IF STORMS
APPROACH SECURE LOOSE ITEMS, MOVE VEHICLES UNDER COVER, THEN SEEK
SHELTER UNTIL THE STORMS HAVE PASSED.
THIS THUNDERSTORM ADVICE WILL BE ISSUED AT 6 PM THIS AFTERNOON.
last line caught my attention, must be a mistake.
Matt Smith
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:46:16 +1100
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain Gauge
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Try Beacon Engineering at 25 South St Rydalmere for a Bureau standard guage, or
a plastic guage you can mount on a fencepost (the latter is much cheaper and may
be even available in a good hardware store). As I understand it the plastic
guages are official standard provided of course the exposure conditions are
correct..impossible to achieve in suburban Sydney unless you live on a large
block..
"James Harris (819)" wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking at buying a rain gauge for myself. Does anyone know what sort I
> should get (Is there particular brands or models you should buy), where you
> can get them (In Sydney) and approx how much.
>
> Thanks heaps.
>
> James Harris
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:30:54 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,
Well...it was a risk going for border range t'storms this late in the
afternoon...but none-the-less we thought we try our luck. It seemed
that the storms weakened at a directly proportional rate of the distance
we were from them. We did, however see a very nice cell that had a nice
backshear, strong updrafts and very nice anvil, unfortunately, we
couldn't get to it. Preferably, we should have left earlier, but we
couldn't!
We saw some nice lightning at night from different points on the fringes
of southern Brisbane, but all (most) intercloud-cc lightning.
We did get a much better view of the external features of the t'storms,
so that was the one consellation that didn't make the chase too bad.
Unfortunately, Craig had to be back at 9pm to give his car back to his
wife, so we weren't able to stay on the ranges for more t'storms and
lightning shots. Some more nice t'storms have formed over the ranges as
we speak, but they'll most likely die as they come off the ranges :(
A big thanks to Craig for driving James and myself! Little did he know
when he offered, that us two storm desperado's would snap up his offer!
Just a pity your first chase wasn't better!
Anthony Cornelius
Anthony Cornelius wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> James, Craig and myself are going on a last minute chase to the border
> lands of SE QLD. Craig's mobile is 0416 062439 if anyone can keep us
> updated!
>
> Also...if anyone can get in contact with Michael Bath and tell him I
> can't ring him tonight, it would be greatly appreciated...please give
> him my apologies!
>
> Anthony
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040
From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Broad scale patterns
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:36:16 +1100
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OK, here's a question for those of you with rather more depth of knowledge
than me......
Melbourne & the east coast of Australia have had what seems to be rather
unusual weather patterns in the latter half of last year & so far this
year.....more east coast lows than average, Melbourne has possessed a more
'sub-tropical' (and I use the term loosely & possibly incorrectly) weather
pattern since mid - December, which now appears to have lapsed into a more
readily recognisable Melbourne autumn pattern..... and Michael Bath has
commented on the fact that Sydney has had fewer storms than usual.
Ok, ok, ........I'm getting to the question....
How have the latitudinal positions of the broad scale systems differed from
those of 'normal' seasons? and has this difference provided the trigger for
the 'unusual' patterns? (or am I talking through my hat here???)
If the answer is that systems have actually been in the latitudes where they
are 'normally' located, then what have the triggers been?
a rather bemused Jane in Melbourne
(who's wanted to know the answer to this
and other pithy (and possibly dumb) questions;
more of which you will no-doubt get
over the 'quiet times' between Sc chases)
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 23:36:17 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Dumb question on barometric pressure
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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Hi all,
I've got a simple question that has stumped me for ages:
When the bureau reports pressure readings - at what elevation
is it reporting them at?
For instance, on a perfect day at a perfect beach, the barometric
pressure would be around 1013.25 mbar, but the same perfect day
up in Canberra, they report the pressure as 1013.25 mbar - but
it *can't* be the same pressure since we are around 600m elevation,
and hence the pressure is less by about 60 mbar.
My only guess is that they adjust the reported value to present it
as a value as if you were at sea level. I know *nothing* about the
ways of the Bureau - but I figured someone here would know.
cheers,
Chris
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Chris Maunder Canberra, Australia
Administrator CodeGuru - www.codeguru.com
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