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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Thursday, 4 March 1999

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001 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             sydney area tomorrow
002 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]       ASWA Logo Poll Reminder
003 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]       Sydney Chase Plans
004 "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]    Sydney Chase Plans
005 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   NSW Snow story
006 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   a QLD Snow story
007 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   a QLD Snow story
008 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Writer galore
009 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   SA snow
010 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Good weather for Sydney
011 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Re: cold weather and computers
012 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   NSW Snow story
013 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Hi Lindsay,
014 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             sydney
015 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Mobile phone fraud
016 Michael_Bath at amp.com.au                        sydney
017 "James Harris (819)" [JH at intravel.com.au]      sydney
018 james harris [jimbohar at rocketmail.com]         Sydney storms
019 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           NSW warning
020 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Good weather for Sydney.
021 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Re: cold weather and computers
022 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Writer galore
023 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange Weather
024 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            sydney weather
025 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Re: cold weather and computers
026 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  NSW Snow story
027 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        NSW Snow story
028 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            Snow stories SA
029 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            Snow
030 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   NSW Snow story
031 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Illawarra Storm hole  - and surf is up
032 "Joanne Walker" [jmwalker at hotmail.com]         severe t'storm Sth Brisbane
033 Norman Lynagh [lynagh at dial.pipex.com]          NSW Snow story
034 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       what happened in Sydney today
035 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       Sydney ASWA meeting 13/03/99
036 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         severe t'storm Sth Brisbane
037 David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]              Hunter Valley storms
038 "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]      Mobile phone fraud
039 "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]      HAPPY 17TH BIRTHDAY ANTHONY !!!!!!!!!!!1
040 "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]      Snow stories SA

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001

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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 00:39:05 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: sydney area tomorrow
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Hi Jimmy / whoever

I managed to get work off tomorrow so i can chase with any of you guys all
around the place, hunter/west/ wherever we decide to go if things look
good, LI's are at -3 tomorrow in the afternoon.(havent checked other maps
im stuffed)

Put a mail to the list if you decide to meet somewhere (eg rooty hill)

cyas tomorrow hopefully!!

Matt Smith

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002

From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather Mailing List" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: ASWA Logo Poll Reminder
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:17:52 +1100
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Hi Everyone,

Just a reminder that if you haven't yet voted for an ASWA logo you have
until this Sunday the 7th March to do so. The address where the logos can be
viewed is at

http://www.ozemail.com.au/~mjpiper/aswalogo.htm

Also could you please send your preference from first to last to the
following e-mail address

mjpiper at ozemail.com.au

Matthew Piper (ASWA General Committee Member)

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003

From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Chase Plans
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:30:35 +1100
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Hi Matt and other Sydneysiders,

I will be attending a job interview at 1pm in the city so I will not be able
to go chasing until around 330 pm. If possible I will get in contact with
Daniel Weatherhead to see what his plans are. The train I plan on catching
is one which leaves Central just after 2pm so if anyone comes on this
morning before 1030am and sees this message then could they please let me
know their plans.

Matthew Piper

-----Original Message-----
>Hi Jimmy / whoever
>
>I managed to get work off tomorrow so i can chase with any of you guys all
>around the place, hunter/west/ wherever we decide to go if things look
>good, LI's are at -3 tomorrow in the afternoon.(havent checked other maps
>im stuffed)
>
>Put a mail to the list if you decide to meet somewhere (eg rooty hill)
>
>cyas tomorrow hopefully!!
>
>Matt Smith

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004

To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney Chase Plans
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 99 09:45:04 PST
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Good Luck with the job interview.

Cheers,

Nandina
nandina at alphalink.com.au

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> Hi Matt and other Sydneysiders,
>
> I will be attending a job interview at 1pm in the city so I will not be able
> to go chasing until around 330 pm. If possible I will get in contact with
> Daniel Weatherhead to see what his plans are. The train I plan on catching
> is one which leaves Central just after 2pm so if anyone comes on this
> morning before 1030am and sees this message then could they please let me
> know their plans.
>
> Matthew Piper

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005

Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:13:11 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Snow story
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Yes, apparently, that era was a good snow period for the upper mountains
around here too. Many good falls at that time around here, according to
locals. They all say it is notably warmer now than back then...anecdotal
of course but still, interesting.


Lindsay


Michael Thompson wrote:
> 
> An Aunty of mine that has always lived in the Hill End - Orange - Bathurst
> areas says that the first year she moved to Bathurst in the early 1950's it
> snowed at least once in every month from May to October on one particular
> year.
> 
> Michael

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006

Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:10:11 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: a QLD Snow story
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Thanks Michael,

I loved your snow observations and elaborations on my simple ideas. I'm
working through it as I have time. I'm compiling all of this stuff in a
special folder. I'm thinking about (when i can find the time) doing
something for the local paper on weather, maybe with a local emphasis.
It would possibly only be for primary school level or high school level.
meanwhile it's back to my fictional writing, the second of which
includes, (I hope) the 1900's snow storm that dumped three feet of snow
up here.


Michael Scollay wrote:
> 
> Lindsay,
> 
> I've got heaps to tell about snow but not the time yet to write it all
> up. Stay tuned.....etc

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007

Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:34:03 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Let mw know Rodney if my personal address got to you.

Cheers,


Lindsay.


RODNEY AIKMAN wrote:
> 
> Hi Lindsay,
>            If you could e-mail me you postal address I can send you a
> copy (BoM inhouse publication), as I don't have a scanner.
> Rod Aikman

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008

Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:43:04 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Sounds great Terry - and hey, Nandina, you might like this too,


I like your ideas.

Sadly around 98 percent of unsolicited manuscripts don't make it to
getting published. Plenty of folk have talent but don't prepare their
work properly. It's a bit like tennis, lots of folk could be average to
above players but they develop bad habits via lack of training/good
coaching etc.

I'd suggest you join the NSW Writers Centre they are open to published
and non-published writers and have a great newsletter and helpful books
on  preparing manuscripts, finding publishers etc. The also have
seminars and coaching etc.

Their contact address is:

nswwc at ozemail.com.au

or

http://www.ozemail.com.au/~nswwc

Tell them I sent you. They might give me a freebie or something :-)
Terry Bishop wrote:
> 
> Hi Nandina and Lindsay,
> 
>         I also try my hand at the writing game. At present I am working on a book
> covering the effects of humankind on the environment. I am covering subjects
> such as weather (strange that), air pollution, soil pollution (pesticides
> ect), water contamination/pollution, health (Carcinonogenic Effects,
> dermatitis & asthma/sinus, electromagnetic pollution and changes such as the
> damming and changes in environmental flows in the rivers and the cutting
> down of trees.
> 
>         I have two publishers who are interested in the rough outline that I
> presented to them.
>  All I have to do is write it!!!
> 
>         AAAARRRRGGGG!!! Who's idea was this. Information overload. Please reset
> circuit breaker.
> 
>  Terry.
> 
> mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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009

Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:30:09 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: SA snow
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G'day Phil,

Yes, around 1900 - 1910 seems to have been a good time for snow. The
account I've mentioned before in Blackheath had around 900 mm. Two guys
trapping in the valley were killed, one found dead of exposure and one
never found. If I remember correctly, even forbes had snow then! We had
a drift of more than a foot, caught against the fence in our garden at
around midnight in august last year during a blizzard. But the wind was
so strong, only a couple of inches was left by morning. I stood out in
it at midnight with my wet weather gear on and the wind and snow blinded
me. Even though I've been to the snowies a coupla times I've never seen
it like we had last year up here. I estimate the gusts were close to 100
k's - average around 40-60k's throughout the night. It was such a
magical experience standing in mother natures force and saying, "Come on
you b..ch, give it to me!" And she did. Next day, the car just spun and
slid as we tried to drive to the station, suffice to say my partner
didn't enjoy it as much as me, especially when I came in from our
observatory at midnight covered in snow saying, "Darling, it's pissing
down!". WE had no water (frozen) for the morning and there was ice
everywhere on the streets. Sadly, the wind soon took it all away and we
returned to balmy 5 degree temps by the next day. God, i can't wait for
another blizzard!

This year I have got even better wet weather gear and I am going to try
and take lots of pics of my area and Oberon (Shooters Hill - alt. approx
4,500 feet) if we get snow. Sometimes quite a bit can fall but it
doesn't settle due to the high winds we can get, being so high on an
escarpment that is separated by such deep valleys and all.


Phil Bagust wrote:
> 
> I've really enjoyed the snow stories thus far, keep 'em coming!
> 
> I've been lucky enough to witness 4 falls in SA
> 
> 1981, May, on Mt Remarkable in the Flinders Ranges, under an anticyclone
> with a cold pool aloft
> 1984, July, Mt Lofty ranges, classic southerly outbreak
> 1996, August, Mt Lofty ranges, ditto
> 1998, July, Mt Lofty ranges, ditto
> 
> On all occasions except the last snow lasted on the ground for less than an
> hour.  There are many heavier historical falls though.  The decade between
> 1900 and 1910 seems to have been particularly prone....
> 
> Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
> paisley at cobweb.com.au

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010

Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:46:00 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Saints! My team. I used to run for the Track and field version of the St
George club. Luv ,em!


Lindsay


Terry Bishop wrote:
> 
> Attn. all Sydney weather controllers,
> 
> I hereby request a fine mild evening for Saturday 6/3/99. I am attending the
> Rugby League match at the new Sydney Stadium on that evening. GO SAINTS!!!
> 
> Advance apologies to Susan P. and the rest of the Sydney mob that want
> storms.
> 
>  Terry.
> 
> mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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011

Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 06:42:34 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: cold weather and computers
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This may sound like a silly question but can computers be damaged when
they are turned on in very cold weather? My computer is in my
study/observatory that has no carpet but polished floor boards. On days
when its below Zero outside and snowy, it could be close to zero inside,
when I first get up. Is there a safe operating threshold? Last year my
processor fan packed it in, it was only two years old, and I was just
wondering if it was related to cold weather.

Lindsay

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012

Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 16:10:26 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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G'day Michael,

Last year in the upper blue mountains we had snow in each month from
June - October 29. Only one heavy fall that settled but a number of
heavy flurries that blew away and some fun sleety days. I had a gret day
in june at The mount victoria pub sipping on my gin whilst the snow fell
quite heavily. Another day I was walking along the street and this ice
just started falling out of the sky - thousands of tiny pellets that
bounced of my jacket. Apparently there's all sorts of snowy
precipitation; freezing rain, snow pellets, snow grains, sleet and of
course snow.

Does anyone know of the Australian definition of sleet? It is apparently 
different to the English and American understanding of the same term.

Michael Thompson wrote:
> 
> An Aunty of mine that has always lived in the Hill End - Orange - Bathurst
> areas says that the first year she moved to Bathurst in the early 1950's it
> snowed at least once in every month from May to October on one particular
> year.
> 
> Michael

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013

Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:44:32 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Thanks Terry,

Yes, I have heard of that book.Great pics.



Thanks for you snow thoughts too.


Terry Bishop wrote:
> 
> Hi Lindsay,
> 
>         I have just finished reading a book called "Full Steam Across the
> Mountains." It is the story of the constructing and using the first lines
> from Penrith/Emu Plains to Lithgow.
> In the book there are some photos of heavy snowfalls at Blackheath, Medlow
> Bath, Katoomba, and Lithgow all Circa. around the turn of the century. I am
> chasing copies for my own reference so I will keep you in mind when I obtain
> them. I am still working on statistics for the Orange area but at present I
> need an 40 hour day. (That extra hour with daylight saving hasn't helped!!!)
> 
>         Re you enquiry re snowfalls and the greenhouse effect. The all the present
> research I have so far (with much help from the CSIRO) it is still no
> definitive answer. The statistics are to few over to short a period. The
> info does lean towards a natural increase in temperatures but might be
> accelerated by what people are doing to the environment.
> 
>  Terry.
> 
> mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 12:17:27 +1100
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From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: sydney
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 At the moment there is a line of cu across the ranges with it starting to
tower considerably, looks like the next couple of huors will be
interesting. Anyone who can give us info whilst out on the road it would be
much appreciated, please phone Michael Bath on his mobile after about
1.30pm onwards for updates..
Good luck to us! :)

Matt Smith

ASWA General Committee Member

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Mobile phone fraud
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:10:18 +1100
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I'm not usually a purveyor of doom or spreader of rumours, but if you've
heard of 'phreaking', OR you own a mobile phone, this will be of interest to
you, your family & your friends.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

We have received the following message from the Police Service which was
forwarded from Telstra Mobilenet-

If you get a phone call on your mobile from a Cellnet or Vodafone engineer,
telling you that they are doing a check on your phone and that you have to
press #90 or 90# END THE CALL IMMEDIATELY.

There is a fraud company on the go who have devised a device that once you
have pressed #90 or 90# they can access your SIM card and make calls at your
expense.

Jane ONeill

Bayswater

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From: Michael_Bath at amp.com.au
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Just a reminder of my mobile number: 0412 145 710

Michael Bath

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Quick Update on Sydney

Just looking out the window from Nth Sydney there is a weak looking Anvil to 
the NW of the city on the ranges. It doesnt look very strong but at least we 
might have some action later on. Further to the W and SW there is more 
development that is looking promising.

James, Nth Syd

===== Original Message from aussie-weather at world.std.com at 4/03/99 12:17
> At the moment there is a line of cu across the ranges with it starting to
>tower considerably, looks like the next couple of huors will be
>interesting. Anyone who can give us info whilst out on the road it would be
>much appreciated, please phone Michael Bath on his mobile after about
>1.30pm onwards for updates..
>Good luck to us! :)
>
>Matt Smith
>
>ASWA General Committee Member

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018

Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:30:12 -0800 (PST)
From: james harris [jimbohar at rocketmail.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney storms
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Sorry if you get this twice but one of our servers is down and wasnt
sure if it got out.

Quick Update on Sydney

Just looking out the window from Nth Sydney there is 1 weak looking
Anvil to the NW of the city on the ranges. Doesnt look very strong but
at least we might have some action later on. Further to the W and SW
there is more development that is looking promising.
Just had another quick check and a 2nd tower has gone up to the NW
,this one a little stronger looking

James, Nth Syd

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019

From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: NSW warning
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:08:15 +1100
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Go, go, go NSW!!! - good luck to all of you out in the field this afternoon.

Radar shows a series of 10-20mm/hr cells to the NW of Lithgow moving SE, and
also between Mudgee & Scone.  NW outer suburbs of Sydney look likely too!!!!

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1352 on Thursday the 4th of March 1999
This advice affects people in the following weather districts:
Central Tablelands north of Wellington/Orange/Bathurst
Hunter
Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area during this afternonn and
early evening. Some of these may be severe, bringing large hailstones and
destructive winds.

This advice message is valid until 8 pm.

Jane
Bayswater

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: "Aussie-weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Good weather for Sydney.
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:23:47 +1100
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Hi Nandina,

>Rugby?  wot's that?

>Cheers,

>Nandina
>nandina at alphalink.com.au
>a Vic Chick:-)
----------
 The only decent game of footy that does not involve aerial ping pong. :} :}


 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Re: cold weather and computers
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:31:37 +1100
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Lindsay,

Let your computer warm up 15-20 minutes before saving to your hard disk.
This makes sure the metal disk expands to the correct size allowing more
accurate track alignment.

Your power supply fan bearing might rattle till it warms up if a bit worn.
Other than that no harm should come to your system. (Only your fingers.)

 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au


> -----Original Message-----
> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Lindsay
> Sent: Friday, 5 March 1999 0:43
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject:
>
>
> This may sound like a silly question but can computers be damaged when
> they are turned on in very cold weather? My computer is in my
> study/observatory that has no carpet but polished floor boards. On days
> when its below Zero outside and snowy, it could be close to zero inside,
> when I first get up. Is there a safe operating threshold? Last year my
> processor fan packed it in, it was only two years old, and I was just
> wondering if it was related to cold weather.
>
> Lindsay

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022

From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Writer galore
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:36:41 +1100
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Hi Lindsay,

I belong to the Central West Writers Centre with is an affiliate of the NSW
Writers Centre.

Thanks for the info.


 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au


> -----Original Message-----
> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Lindsay
> Sent: Thursday, 4 March 1999 2:43
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject:
>
>
> Sounds great Terry - and hey, Nandina, you might like this too,
>
>
> I like your ideas.
>
> Sadly around 98 percent of unsolicited manuscripts don't make it to
> getting published. Plenty of folk have talent but don't prepare their
> work properly. It's a bit like tennis, lots of folk could be average to
> above players but they develop bad habits via lack of training/good
> coaching etc.
>
> I'd suggest you join the NSW Writers Centre they are open to published
> and non-published writers and have a great newsletter and helpful books
> on  preparing manuscripts, finding publishers etc. The also have
> seminars and coaching etc.
>
> Their contact address is:
>
> nswwc at ozemail.com.au
>
> or
>
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~nswwc
>
> Tell them I sent you. They might give me a freebie or something :-)

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: "Aussie-weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Orange Weather
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:45:03 +1100
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Hi All,

Hot and windy at present. Scatter CU about 25% coverage. Gusty West winds
blowing a lot of dust up. 5mm of rain last night.

 At 15.40 ESDT 32C, 40%, 1010, W/WNW Gusting to 50 Knots.

 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 16:08:17 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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First "thundery shower" we have had for ages.
At Frenchs Forest at 3.30, 1.8 mm in 1-2 min with very tiny hail (your
favourite, Jimmy) but no thunder.
Radar at 3.50 show  cell just to NW of Brooklyn on the Hawkesbury with a
> 100 mm/hr centre.
All moving due west- east.
don White

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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 16:01:02 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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Lindsay wrote:
> 
> This may sound like a silly question but can computers be damaged when
> they are turned on in very cold weather?
> ...

There ought to be the required specification in your manual 
about the hardware. There is usually a safe range of storage
temperatures and a different range of operating temperatures.

Storage isn't so much of a problem. Operating is more important
with the usual problem of cold weather being that related to the
relative humidity and condensation. Normally, the colder you go,
the lower the RH must be to avoid condensation.

The electronics themselves will happily operate to well below
0C. Most specs say -25C. Frost could then be a problem for all
but the warmest of components.

At the other end of the scale. Hot ambient temperatures are
catastrophic as are CPU fan failures and the like. Things will
start to go wrong and then the CPU will shut down, possibly
damaged beyond recovery as junctions can melt/fuse or something
like that. If you turn the computer off before things get to
hot, the chances of damage are reduced.

To give you an idea, we had a major A/C failure at one of our
facilities out-of-hours. This did not cause a fire alarm so
no one was called out (poor design). With over 250 computers in
a 170 sq.m area, the temp rose from 22C to 45C in about 1.5 hours. 
Equipment temps were over 55C inside. Some of the older gear 
failed when cooked, never to boot again. A core router shut 
itself down but it needed to do this at a lower temperature.
Two weeks later, this router was retired due to excessive random
errors. By the time all the damage was added up, it cost nearly
$0.5M in equipment alone, not to mention unproductive downtime.

As for cold, I have limited experience except for condensing
situations and those that form ice in places like tape drives.
Most of the time, equipment is more than happy keeping itself
warm. That's more than I can say for those cold finger tips!

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 16:23:45 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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Lindsay wrote:
> ... 
> Apparently there's all sorts of snowy precipitation; freezing
> rain, snow pellets, snow grains, sleet and of course snow.
> 
> Does anyone know of the Australian definition of sleet? It is apparently
> different to the English and American understanding of the same term.
> ...

This is my understanding of various term's use in Oz...

Snow: That classic six-sided structural stuff all stuck together.
In Oz, that seems a little rare in the Snowy's since the structure
usually has the stuffing knocked out of it by high winds:-)

Sleet: Little balls of soft hail formed when a snowflake melts then
refreezes. Sometimes called "sago". Some sort of snowflake structure
can still be seen.

Wet Snow: Same as snow, but wet and melting.

Glaze: This is aussie ice-storms of a different sort formed when
super-cooled water droplets in low cloud freeze onto an exposed 
surface, usually the leeward side. I've only experienced a true
ice storm once which was formed by freezing rain. Temp was -4C
in Perisher and +2 at Mt Kosciuzco (new spelling?). A thunderstorm
rolled in with rain up top that froze to sheet ice down low.

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Snow story
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:51:12 +1100 (EST)
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> Glaze: This is aussie ice-storms of a different sort formed when
> super-cooled water droplets in low cloud freeze onto an exposed 
> surface, usually the leeward side. I've only experienced a true
> ice storm once which was formed by freezing rain. Temp was -4C
> in Perisher and +2 at Mt Kosciuzco (new spelling?). A thunderstorm
> rolled in with rain up top that froze to sheet ice down low.
> 
> Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
There was a near-miss on this in Victoria on 10 July 1995. A relatively
deep (~1200m) cold layer of air formed over the previous 48 hours over 
northern Victoria and southern NSW in persistent fog, then this cold
layer was advected, more or less intact, southward across Victoria
in the northerlies ahead of an approaching cold front. Temperatures
above this layer were quite a bit lower than those in it, but the 
lower layer never quite got below 0 C. Ballarat had a daytime max of
1 C (although it rose to 5 by 0900 the next morning). If it had been
1 or 2 degrees colder (putting central Victoria below 0 C) I suspect
we would have had a major ice storm on our hands. Instead there was
very cold drizzle.

This event also produced the second-lowest daytime maximum in Melbourne
this century (6.8 C, IIRC) and one of the more memorable forecasts
I've seen: 'bitterly cold northerly winds turning milder westerly
later'.

I've never heard of a low-elevation freezing rain event in Australia.
The most likely location, to me, would seem to be the Derwent Valley
of Tasmania - which does occasionally get persistent fog with 
temperatures near or below freezing.

Blair Trewin

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:39:38 +0930
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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow stories SA
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Hi all,

The early years of the century seem to have been pretty snowy ones.  I've
got a charming story from the mid north of SA that you might find
interesting.


>From Burra (alt 500m) July 31, 1901...

"A spell of cold weather culminated in a heavy fall of snow on Saturday
night.  It began about 9 o'clock and within a short while the whole region
was white.  Snowballing began and continued until midnight.

A gentleman who climbed the hill near the mine on Sunday morning saw the
glorified landscape in the dawn and opening light.  The whole region
presented a magnificent scene and common and unsightly objects were
transformed into things of beauty.

One naturally recalled like scenes in England and Wales and the long period
since they were witnessed were bridged over.  An old lady said that on
looking out in the morning she felt as if she had suddenly been transported
over the ocean to her native Scotland.

Great excitement prevailed throughout the day.  Many people went almost
wild with enthusiasm.  Photographers where at work in all directions and
will preserve phenomenal scenes for coming generations.

Huge snowballs were rolled and piled upon each other.  Some of the
monuments were ten feet high.  A few were formed as men and one was made to
resemble a kangaroo.  Hundreds of men, women and children abandoned
themselves to snowballing.  A parson who pleade exemption as being a
chaplain was created as an inveterate 'Boer'.  I am told a policeman was
rolled in the snow.

A dozen boys and girls waged a snowy battle instead of attending Sunday
School.  Fifty fellows at a corner assailed every passenger and gave a well
known lady and gentleman a merciless pelting.

As worshippers were entering the Redruth Church for morning service an
adjoining yard was the scene of a conflict that recalled the siege of
Mafeking.

Sabbath decorum was at a discount and religious services were poorly
attended.  One of the collections was the poorest on record"

Rev W F James
Burra Record

in "Burra and District: A Pictorial Memoir" by Ian Auhl



This fall was one of the heaviest in the state's history.  Burra reported 4
to 9 inches of snow, with up to 6 feet (!) reported in the valleys.  Snow
on nearby Mt Bryan (933m) was visible for a week.

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au

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>Yes, around 1900 - 1910 seems to have been a good time for snow. The
>account I've mentioned before in Blackheath had around 900 mm.




Thanks for that story Lindsay.  Loved it!

What's Mt Canobolas (sp?) Like in the snow department?  It seems pretty
high and exposed (I've only ever driven past it at a distance).

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Snow story
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:38:12 +1100
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Well I used to think that it was always colder or hotter when I was young,
but I must admit that the last 3 summers have been as humid and hot as any I
can remember ( on the coast ). To prove a point I looked at several 1980's
summers that I kept records for, there were 3 summers where the max temp all
summer did not go over 30C ( I live 2 km from the beach on Lake Illawarra ),
but none the less we have had several 30C plus days in each of the last 3
summers.

I do remember being taken to Robertson in the early 1960's by my dad, and
there was snow everywhere, much deeper than the several falls I have seen
since.

Michael



-----Original Message-----
>Yes, apparently, that era was a good snow period for the upper mountains
>around here too. Many good falls at that time around here, according to
>locals. They all say it is notably warmer now than back then...anecdotal
>of course but still, interesting.
>
>
>Lindsay

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Illawarra Storm hole  - and surf is up
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:53:06 +1100
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Another sad situation of playing piggy in the middle here in the Illawarra,
storms evident to the north and north west, but nothing here ( again ! )

Surf has jumped from 3ft this morning to a solid 6-8ft, thanks to a
depression in the eastern Tasman. I will not last long.


Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com

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From: "Joanne Walker" [jmwalker at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: severe t'storm Sth Brisbane
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 22:58:05 PST
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as usual i missed it all
too engrossed in Kologorov Smirnov  and Kruskall Wallis tests on SOI 
data.  Hey I did notice it got dark because I thought home time 
already.. nuh cant be.  Oh well hoping you guys can fill me in (as 
usual!) and thank the lord James has a video cam- storms look so much 
better in motion rather than on film (unless youve got a pretty 
spectacular looking cloud).  Im still telling people about the footage I 
saw at the ASWA meeting that James took from the top of Garden Citry 
shopping centre - bluddy great (shelf cloud was it?:))
I appreciated everyones patience that day and willingness to explain 
everyting to me.

Gotta keep going through all those reports 

JO

>Hi all, James from Eight Mile Plains, Brisbane
>
>We just got a severe storm!  I just got home from work in time to get 
the
>camcorder out and I videoed very nice W'ly gust front winds 
100-110km/h!
>Those GF winds struck at about 2.48pm.  I've reported it to the Bureau 
and
>I'm about to fill out that little card they give us storm spotters.  I 
can't
>give you an accurate measurement of rainfall because the gauge was 
blown off
>the fence, but I'd say we've had 20-25mm and the rain is still steadily
>coming down.  Lightning wasn't frequent at all, but after the gales 
some CGs
>occurred fairly close to me.  I'd say some damage could have occurred 
to the
>south, where the storms are stronger.  Some branches are down around 
here
>but only small.  At the height of the storm, some crashing of debris 
could
>be heard.  Hopefully when I review the video I'll be able to see some 
of it.
>
>More news soon.
>------------------------------------------------------
>James Chambers

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 07:07:28 +0000
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Norman Lynagh [lynagh at dial.pipex.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Snow story
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In message <36DE18E1.9B8A53ED at telstra.com.au>, Michael Scollay
 writes
>Lindsay wrote:
>> ... 
>> Apparently there's all sorts of snowy precipitation; freezing
>> rain, snow pellets, snow grains, sleet and of course snow.
>> 
>> Does anyone know of the Australian definition of sleet? It is apparently
>> different to the English and American understanding of the same term.
>> ...
>
>This is my understanding of various term's use in Oz...
>
>Snow: That classic six-sided structural stuff all stuck together.
>In Oz, that seems a little rare in the Snowy's since the structure
>usually has the stuffing knocked out of it by high winds:-)
>
>Sleet: Little balls of soft hail formed when a snowflake melts then
>refreezes. Sometimes called "sago". Some sort of snowflake structure
>can still be seen.
>
>Wet Snow: Same as snow, but wet and melting.
>
The UK definition of sleet is rain and snow falling together or melting
snow flakes i.e. like your definition of "wet snow". What you have
described as "sleet" is known as "ice pellets" in the UK.

Norman.
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 19:09:01 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: what happened in Sydney today
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Hi All,

Some lovely congestus and an isolated thundery shower that Don reported
earlier was all that occurred in the Sydney suburban area today. The shower
gave 5mm in a few minutes at my place at Oakhurst and a few CGs occurred
too. It was from a low topped weak Cb, similar to one that teased to the
south earlier in the afternoon, probably along the escarpment south of Sydney.

Matt Smith, Matthew Piper and I headed out to Richmond after watching this
earlier activity very rapidly get swallowed up into the very large storm
that developed on the NW outskirts of Sydney and into the Wollemi NP, the
central coast and the hunter, around 3.30pm. We did observe some nice base
features and lightning and were tempted to cross onto the mountains along
the Bells Line of Road, however a radar update gave us reason not too: all
activity was moving E-ENE and it was mostly in accessible areas. 

David Croan called us earlier from Gosford around 2.45pm, so we should
expect him to report some big action later on - it was the area that fired
big time.

Two days of storms just out of reach really - should of had a day off today
and head into the Hunter where the LI indicated the max action would be.

cheers,
Michael
*==========================================================*
 Michael Bath  Oakhurst, Sydney   mbath at ozemail.com.au
                 Australian Severe Weather
       http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 19:18:39 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Sydney ASWA meeting 13/03/99
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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An ASWA meeting will be held at 2KY building in Wentworth St, Parramatta
commencing at 10am on Sat 13th March 1999.

If you would further information or would like to suggest topics for
discussion please email me separately to the list.

regards, Michael
ASWA President

*==========================================================*
 Michael Bath  Oakhurst, Sydney   mbath at ozemail.com.au
                 Australian Severe Weather
       http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 19:37:44 +1100
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: severe t'storm Sth Brisbane
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Joanne can you please give me a run down on how you apply these tests to
the
SOI data and also what you re seeking
to find out with them..thanks (I've had some exposure to non-parametric
statistics but am keen to learn more..I assume you are testing
significant differences between different monthly averages?)

Joanne Walker wrote:

> as usual i missed it all
> too engrossed in Kologorov Smirnov  and Kruskall Wallis tests on SOI
> data.  Hey I did notice it got dark because I thought home time
> already.. nuh cant be.  Oh well hoping you guys can fill me in (as
> usual!) and thank the lord James has a video cam- storms look so much
> better in motion rather than on film (unless youve got a pretty
> spectacular looking cloud).  Im still telling people about the footage I
> saw at the ASWA meeting that James took from the top of Garden Citry
> shopping centre - bluddy great (shelf cloud was it?:))
> I appreciated everyones patience that day and willingness to explain
> everyting to me.
>
> Gotta keep going through all those reports
>
> JO

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 01:48:42 -0800 (PST)
From: David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Hunter Valley storms
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Hi everyone,

as Michael mentioned I decided on a chase to the central coast /
Hunter valley this afternoon. Full details will be passed on to
Michael for storm news later on. There were some very severe 'looking'
storms in that area this afternoon but the road network failed again 

After leaving work at 1:30pm I wasn't sure whether to head towards
western Sydney or up to the Hunter. Being in Northern Sydney to begin
with there wasn't all that much difference in travel time. So I
positioned myself at Berowra  (far northern elevated Sydney suburb) so
that I would be able to go either way. After watching the development
for about 30 minutes, it was clear that  
North was the place to be. I headed off after the nearest cell. It
looked ok and the freeway pretty well took right me into it's path
near Corranbong. At about this time, Michael Scollay gave me a run
down of the radar (thanks Michael). Michael mentioned the cell I was
pretty well under and another (40-100mm/h) cell near Williamtown.
Anyway to cut a long story short the cell I was on soon died and
revealed a storm to my north. It was massive - very high and just
boiling away. It appeared to have a single enormous updraft, very
steep flanking line - I am quite convinced that it was a supercell,
but of course I could be wrong so we'll wait and see. The roads were a
real bummer and I gave up getting onto it, plus it was probably
heading off the coast anyway.

The next cell to my south started to develop (about 4:30pm). What
first caught my eye was the intense CGs. The frustrating part; there
was just nowhere to get some pics and watch the cell mature. I
eventually set up shop on an overpass on the F4. Anyway this storm
didn't take long to really fire and I'm quite sure that it went
severe. As it got to close for comfort I had to dart down the freeway
- it was either that or drive headlong into it along the road to
Cessnock. Even though I avoided the core by quite some distance I ran
into small hail (5c piece size) with some louder thumps on the car
indicating the odd larger stone. It was pity that it was a solo chase,
as the video heading down the freeway skirting the storm would have
been superb.

Anyway hopefully the video and pics turn out ok just in time for the
next ASWA meeting.

Cheers

David

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From: "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: URGENT!!  - RE: aus-wx: Mobile phone fraud
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:41:56 +-1000
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

ooooooooK ebbywun - take it from the horses mouth ..... it's BULLSHIT, so
y'all can relax.

.. dudes, I work for mobilenet by the way - this said rumour was sparked by
an unassociated problem incurred in old PABX's back in the United States a
few years ago .. it has NO substance to it whatsoever and was further fuelled
by chain-email spurred via the Internet - that Mobilenet is still trying
backtracking to it's original source incidentally ....

just so's ya's know
rals
brissie

p.s. dont directly approach me for individual advice via this group. 
please n thanks


----------

I'm not usually a purveyor of doom or spreader of rumours, but if you've
heard of 'phreaking', OR you own a mobile phone, this will be of interest to
you, your family & your friends.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

We have received the following message from the Police Service which was
forwarded from Telstra Mobilenet-

If you get a phone call on your mobile from a Cellnet or Vodafone engineer,
telling you that they are doing a check on your phone and that you have to
press #90 or 90# END THE CALL IMMEDIATELY.

There is a fraud company on the go who have devised a device that once you
have pressed #90 or 90# they can access your SIM card and make calls at your
expense.

Jane ONeill

Bayswater

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From: "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: HAPPY 17TH BIRTHDAY ANTHONY !!!!!!!!!!!1
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:45:07 +-1000
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.. GUESS which ausie-weather Brisbanite is having a birfday party right now!!!!!!!!  
(hey ...and he didn't invite any of us!!!!)

MANY many happy returns mate!
rals

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From: "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Snow stories SA
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:52:20 +-1000
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.....this has the makings of an excellent scene in somebody's movie!!!! 

rals

----------

Hi all,

The early years of the century seem to have been pretty snowy ones.  I've
got a charming story from the mid north of SA that you might find
interesting.


>From Burra (alt 500m) July 31, 1901...

"A spell of cold weather culminated in a heavy fall of snow on Saturday
night.  It began about 9 o'clock and within a short while the whole region
was white.  Snowballing began and continued until midnight.

Sabbath decorum was at a discount and religious services were poorly
attended.  One of the collections was the poorest on record"

Rev W F James
Burra Record

in "Burra and District: A Pictorial Memoir" by Ian Auhl

This fall was one of the heaviest in the state's history.  Burra reported 4
to 9 inches of snow, with up to 6 feet (!) reported in the valleys.  Snow
on nearby Mt Bryan (933m) was visible for a week.

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au

Document: 990304.htm
Updated: 09 March 1999

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