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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: 1st March 1999

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001 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Snow story
002 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Re: Blackheath
003 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   CCCCOOOOOOLLDDD! Was "Frustrating Day in Brisbane"
004 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   CCCCOOOOOOLLDDD! Was "Frustrating Day in Brisbane"
005 Ben Quinn [Bodie19 at eisa.net.au]                SE QLD wx
006 "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]    SE QLD wx
007 Ben Quinn [Bodie19 at eisa.net.au]                SE QLD wx
008 Ben Quinn [Bodie19 at eisa.net.au]                SE QLD wx
009 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       Survey
010 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  CCCCOOOOOOLLDDD! Was "Frustrating Day in Brisbane"
011 Ben Quinn [Bodie19 at eisa.net.au]                SE QLD wx
012 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com]     Development over the Grampians
013 vortex at wwdg.com                                Development over the Grampians.
014 vortex at wwdg.com                                Update: Development over the Grampians.
015 vortex at wwdg.com                                Development over the Grampians
016 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             (no subject)
017 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Melbourne radar update 1440
018 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Survey
019 vortex at wwdg.com                                (no subject)
020 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        a QLD Snow story
021 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             South Australia Severe Thunderstorm Advice
022 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]         Thunder in Melbourne
023 "Joanne Walker" [jmwalker at hotmail.com]         Melbourne chase report
024 Dane Newman [dpn at bigpond.com]                  Melbourne Thunder
025 "RODNEY AIKMAN" [raikman at hotmail.com]          Bendigo weather
026 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Melbourne Thunder
027 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Wyche weather
028 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           RE: aussie-weather: Storm Chasers Photo...
029 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     SE QLD T'storms
030 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     SE QLD wx
031 Ben Quinn [Bodie19 at eisa.net.au]                SE QLD wx
032 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Eumundi 'tornado'
033 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     SE QLD wx
034 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          Feb storm record for Canberra
035 Richard Bath [soapyb at tig.com.au]               a QLD Snow story

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001

Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:45:53 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Hi Dane,

Apparently when the flakes are large its because of the fact that they
are falling at or just above freezing which can cause them to partially
melt on the way down and then stick to other flakes to form big ones.
We had probably six or seven falls at Blackheath lAST year which were
mostly light but we had a few heavy flurries that were swept away by the
strong wind and then a blizzard in august. It was great. I walked out in
it at midnight with about two inches of snow on the road and it was
pouring down with snow but sadly the wond took most of it away within 24
hours.


> >Hi Lindsay, when I lived in Canberra many years ago, there were several
> good snow falls. I think the excitement of these events sparked my interest
> in weather. The best year i think was 1960 when it snowed about 7 times. on
> two of these occasions it covered the ground. The first time i woke up
> looked out the window the sky was clear but the ground was white. about 1
> inch fell officially, not much but enough to transform every thing outside.
> i remember throughing snow balls at school and how excited we all were I
> was 8 years old then. About 3 weeks later it snowed overnight again 1- 2
> inches this time, we were again throughing Snowballs at school and then it
> stated snowing again (heavily) big flakes as big as a twenty cent piece
> came down  for about the next 45 minutes they then tirned to heavy rain and
> washed the snow away. Dane

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002

Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 07:28:34 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Re: Blackheath
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Some Feb weather stats for Blackheath from my station. (1085 metres
alt.)

Average Max. = 18.6

No. of days > 25 = 6

Rainfall = 144 mm

Heaviest 24 hr fall = 35mm  (on the 8th)

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003

Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:48:07 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: CCCCOOOOOOLLDDD! Was "Frustrating Day in Brisbane"
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I think that was when we got our blizzard in blackheath during this
snowfall in thw snowies.

David Croan wrote:
> I skied the same week (actually.. I thought it was earlier in August
> but I remember there being a 'massive' 24 hour dump [tuesday??] and
> healthy falls on the flanking days a few days ending the day we
> arrived) and it was fantastic. I think I have been fortunate in that
> on several occasions I have skied 'poor' seasons at prime times and
> had a great time. On the other hand I have headed down there on
> otherwise 'good' seasons only to be greeted with drizzle/rain and/or
> sleet and/or very high winds. So I guess rather than looking for a
> good season I sellfishly hope for a good week early this coming August.
> 
> As for predictions I usually go with probability, the same as I do for
> the storm chase season; after several poor snow years the next has to
> be a good one - it eventually works, perhaps this year:)

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004

Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:39:53 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: CCCCOOOOOOLLDDD! Was "Frustrating Day in Brisbane"
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That's chilly,

We had a wind chill of -20 here last year in Blackheath. I reckon that
this year will be a better season, if La nina hangs around. Apparently
someone said if it snows on the snowies over summer, which it did this
year it can be a good omen for winter. At least I hope so. It wasn't too
bad for snow at blackheath last year. we had several light falls and one
decent one of a couple of inches or more. It even snowed here late
October.


Chris Maunder wrote:
> Between you and a friend of mine who has just headed off for some skiing
> in Canada - I'm getting REAL itchy for the snow season.
> 
> I cannot believe how bad last seasons was. 1997 was bad - and we all
> thought that 1998 would make up for it. What a disappointment!
> 
> Anyone want to make some brave predictions about this years season? :)

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005

Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 08:11:33 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [Bodie19 at eisa.net.au]
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..

(8am in the morning)
I've just heard from very reliable sources of quite a severe storm in
Eumundi (approx 85km Northish of Brisbane), and it's just come over the
radio now "Mini Tornado in Eumundi this morning" (GGGrrrr).  I've had
65mm here since about 6:30 this morning, and its really coming down,
quite windy too.. no thunder yet, but there is a nice little storm on
the tracker over Caloundra at the moment.. BOM is warning of heavy falls
north of Brisbane, with stream rises and local flooding this morning.

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006

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From: "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD wx
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 99 08:44:08 PST
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Morning BEn - just alittle past 9 in Vic.  Boy, you people have certainly
had ypour share of damaging weather, haven't you?  I can understand the
Weather buffs being enthusiastic - just hope there is minimal, if any,
damage this time and no tragedies.

Take care

Cheers,

Nandina
nandina at alphalink.com.au

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> Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
>
> (8am in the morning)
> I've just heard from very reliable sources of quite a severe storm in
> Eumundi (approx 85km Northish of Brisbane), and it's just come over the
> radio now "Mini Tornado in Eumundi this morning" (GGGrrrr).  I've had
> 65mm here since about 6:30 this morning, and its really coming down,
> quite windy too.. no thunder yet, but there is a nice little storm on
> the tracker over Caloundra at the moment.. BOM is warning of heavy falls
> north of Brisbane, with stream rises and local flooding this morning.

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007

Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 08:57:38 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [Bodie19 at eisa.net.au]
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Morning Nandina :)

Just checked the gauge again, 110mm now, and still pouring (although
starting to ease a little) a few rumbles of thunder now, it looks like
that storm around Caloundra is moving south.. I'd like it to go SW
though :) although it should come close to me if it holds together.  I'm
RCF on the tracker BTW (http://bastion.energex.com.au/strike/)

We sure have had our fair share of rain, Unfortunately i cant track down
the chart i've been recording my rainfall on, but so far the BOM have
recorded 269mm at the Redcliffe rain station, but in the last 2 rain
events i've received much more rain than the Redcliffe station (living
in the Western suburbs).. I'd estimate, including this rain this
morning, i've had close to 500mm if February.. with many more areas
around me (especially to my NW) that would easily be in the 7-800's.  

Hopefully i'll have some pictures up of the recent flooding in Brisbane
soon (4 rolls of 24 to develope).. including pictures of the Caboulture
river in full flood up to 7-800m wide at one point.




Nandina Morris wrote:
> 
> Morning BEn - just alittle past 9 in Vic.  Boy, you people have certainly
 had ypour share of damaging weather, haven't you?  I can understand the
 Weather buffs being enthusiastic - just hope there is minimal, if any,
 damage this time and no tragedies.
> 
> Take care

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:18:09 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [Bodie19 at eisa.net.au]
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Actually, just found some rain totals for February (this doesn't include
the rain from the past 3 days or so):

581.6  KENILWORTH ELIZABETH ST
592.6  CABOOLTURE POST OFFICE
657.6  KANDANGA POST OFFICE
672.0  PALMWOODS HOBSON STREET
692.2  MT MEE
879.6  MARY CAIRNCROSS PARK
880.0  MALENY TAMARIND ST
905.0  TEWANTIN RSL PARK
922.8  NAMBOUR DPI
964.0  PEACHESTER WOODFORD RD
980.0  LAKE COOTHARABA
1008.0  YANDINA POST OFFICE

With countless other stations receiving 500mm+, these are some of the
main ones around the main areas of flooding.  Frequent rolling thunder
now to my NE, the rain has slowed down to light/moderate..

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 10:19:56 +1100
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From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Survey
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OK guys - someone remind me later in the week and I'll try and post
my collection of "Stuff that could be snow if you look close enough 
and squint" photos from the Canberra/Namadgi/Tidbinbilla area.

BTW - what's the storage limit on a geocities acct nowadays?

Chris.

At 17:03 27/02/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Checking out all of the stories on snow....hands up the 3 poeple on the list
>who didn't live in Canberra at some stage!!! 
>
>I lived there from '63 - '75 then Queanbeyan from '76 - '80 and then '84 -
>'90 (and no I'm not going back again).
>
>Everyone I talk to seems to have spent some time there....
>
>I remember snow in July or August 1966 - enough that you could snowboard
>down our street in Yarralumla (had they invented snowboards then?)- and who
>was in bed with the mumps??? :(  I've also got photos of the dogs playing in
>snow in the backyard in Queanbeyan in '86 or'87 in October.  Used to drive
>down to Tidbinbilla if there was anything vaguely resembling a cloud that
>might have had snow in it - used to see a LOT of kangaroos but never much
>snow.
>
>Remeber that if it snowed in Orange or Bathurst Canberra's chance of getting
>snow dropped to ZERO.  Anyone know why that is?
>
>Jane
>Bayswater, Melbourne

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010

Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 11:49:21 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Hi Fellow Aussie-Snow Theorists (FAST)!

June/July/August/September 1998 was weird year in which several
spectacular dumps were followed by balmy, warm and sometimes wet
weather that knocked the stuffing out of those dumps. I watched my
satpic animations in horror as warm, humid, tropical air made its way
from near East Timor, right across Australia to form a nice, warm lows
in the Tasman that inevitably killed New Zealand's snow season
completely. NZ finally got some decent snow in late August, September
and October, just as the resorts were closing. Fortunately for
Australia, the brunt of this warm air often missed our ski fields, but
not completely:-(

The Aussie Perisher Valley big dumps of 1998 came on;

01-28/07 - Light/medium falls (3 or 4) to create base of 40cm.
28-30/07 - This snow fell right up into QLD. About 1.2m fell in
blizzard 
           conditions (-8C to -4C). Base >1.6m. Rain followed:-(
07-09/08 - 40cm of snow in maginal conditions (-2C to +1C). Base 1.3m. 
           Rain followed:-(
15-18/08 - 90cm of snow in calm conditions (-4C to 0C). Base ~2.0m.
Rain
           followed reducing base to about 1.3m with temp around +8C
into
           week 1 of September.
04-06/09 - 40cm of snow in blizzard conditions. Rain followed. Base
1.2m
15-16/09 - 60cm of snow in blizzard conditions. Rain followed. Base
1.1m
23-24/09 - 20cm of snow. Rain followed. Base <0.5m.
24-30/09 - Very warm conditions >+10 leading to no base by season
close.
07-08/10 - 30cm of snow came too late.

In between strong cold fronts that dumped a reasonable amount of snow
each time, a weak low would form in SA from warm air at about 35S that
would move W > E dumping rain on our skifields. This was often
followed by a vigourous cold front from the SW. The one major
exception to this was the dump of 15 to 18 August.

The blizzard that Lindsay notes was the one of 28-30/07 I'd say from
my records.

As for FAST, I don't advocate probability as David suggests but I do
have a hefty dose of selfish optimisim:-)

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

Lindsay wrote:
> 
> I think that was when we got our blizzard in blackheath during this
> snowfall in thw snowies.

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 11:45:42 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [Bodie19 at eisa.net.au]
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..

I ended up getting 115mm out of the rain this morning, most of it
falling in under 2 hours.. Looks like poor old Gympie will cop some more
flooding, although it is not expect it to go higher than 12m.  I've
taken some rainfall totals to 9am this morning from the Mary River Flood
warning:

Rainfalls up to 140mm have been recorded in the Mary River above Gympie
in the 24 hours to 9am this morning.  Heaviest falls have been along the
eastern side of the catchment from Maleny to Pomona.  24 hour totals
include Cooroy 139mm, Pomona 144mm, Maleny 117mm, Kenilworth 101mm,
Jimna 41mm and Kadanga 101mm. 

Here is the rest of the warning:

INITIAL FLOOD WARNING FOR THE MARY RIVER UPSTREAM OF GYMPIE Issued at
9:49am on Monday the 1st of March 1999 by the Bureau of Meteorology,
Brisbane. 

Fast stream rises and moderate flooding are occurring along Six Mile
Creek.    
Minor flooding is expected to develop at Gympie during today with the
main floodwaters expected at Gympie Tuesday morning.

At this stage, the river is expected to peak below the moderate flood
level of 12 metres.    

Weather Forecast : Generally cloudy, rain areas contracting south this
morning. Scattered showers remaining. Muggy with light to moderate SE/NE
winds.  

Latest River Heights in metres include : [* denotes automatic station]  

Mary R at Bellbird Creek *           3.23m rising         at  916am Mon
01/03/99
Mary R at Kenilworth Br              3.20m rising         at  900am Mon
01/03/99 Kandanga Ck at Hygait *              1.64m                at 
917am Mon 01/03/99 Amamoor Ck at Zachariah *           
2.59m                at  916am Mon 01/03/99 
Mary R at Dagun Pocket *             6.57m                at  918am Mon
01/03/99 
Six Mile Ck at Cooran                7.15m rising fast    at  900am Mon
01/03/99 
Mary R at Gympie Weir *              5.69m                at  919am Mon
01/03/99
Mary R at Gympie *                   5.04m rising         at  916am Mon
01/03/99 
Mary R at Fishermans Pocket *        5.35m rising         at  917am Mon
01/03/99   
The next warning will be issued at about 1pm Monday.

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 18:33:46 PST
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Hi Paul. I think you should get a good night's sleep and fill the car up 
with petrol if the LFTX is anything to go by. It's reading for about 
midday tommorrow is between -4 and -5 for central west Victoria. Andrew 
Mcdonald and myself are probably chasing tommorrow afternoon and that's 
the way we'll probably go.I hope something happens today for you 
however.

Chris
>Hey All.
> 
>There is development over the Grampians at the moment (1:00pm) but 
nothing is showing on the Bureau radar at the moment. Just about to 
check the sat pics, but hope something happens.
> 
>Glad to hear also that the Melbourneites got some action last 
night...maybe they could send something to the west????
> 
>Paul
> 
>
>Paul Yole

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From: vortex at wwdg.com
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:48:31 -0700
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Subject: aus-wx: Development over the Grampians.
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Hey all.

Bureau radar is now showing something...finally. Let's hope it picks up.
Possibly might start heading off towards it in the next few hours or so.

Paul Yole
2 McDonald Street
Murtoa.  Vic. 3390
Australia
Phone: (035) 385 2699
Mobile: 0419 367 920
Email: vortex at wwdg.com

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From: vortex at wwdg.com
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:49:55 -0700
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Subject: aus-wx: Update: Development over the Grampians.
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Hey all.
Things seem to be happening East of Hamilton...anyone thinking of going after it?

Paul Yole
2 McDonald Street
Murtoa.  Vic. 3390
Australia
Phone: (035) 385 2699
Mobile: 0419 367 920
Email: vortex at wwdg.com

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From: vortex at wwdg.com
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:22:22 -0700
To: cadence at rubix.net.au
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Subject: aus-wx: Development over the Grampians
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Hey All.
 
There is development over the Grampians at the moment (1:00pm) but nothing
is showing on the Bureau radar at the moment. Just about to check the sat
pics, but hope something happens.
 
Glad to hear also that the Melbourneites got some action last night...maybe
they could send something to the west????
 
Paul
 

Paul Yole
2 McDonald Street
Murtoa.  Vic. 3390
Australia
Phone: (035) 385 2699
Mobile: 0419 367 920
Email: vortex at wwdg.com

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Hi everyone!

Melbourne web cam shows towers going up on the "richmond" web cam

http://melbourne.citysearch.com.au/Melbourne/Weather/Melbourne_Web_Cam/

Nick Sykes reports towers and CB indicative of showers on radar in the
North Western suburbs, and mentioned a tower going up right outside his
window :), and says the best development is to the north and west of
melbourne.

To all people chasing today down there, good luck, hope you see some great
stuff and get the pix to show the rest of us :)

Oh and for us poor sydney souls, maybe a light at the end of the tunnel : 
 
Sydney Outlook:
 Wednesday Chance of afternoon shower. NE/SE winds. City Max:26
 
 Thursday Chance of afternoon shower or thunderstorm. NE/SE winds.
 City Max:26

Matt Smith

ASWA General Committee Member

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne radar update 1440
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:41:46 +1100 (EST)
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Melbourne radar at 1440 indicates two reasonable cells in the 
Melbourne area - one near Macedon and one south of Ballan. The cell
near the airport which was showing up quite strongly 20 minutes ago
seems to be weakening a bit.

There is a more organised band of storms east of Hamilton, and another
one offshore of Mount Gambier.

Melbourne currently 27.3 C, dew-point 17.6.There's a general 
thunderstorm warning out for the metro area, but no severe warnings
yet.

Blair Trewin

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Survey
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:49:55 +1100 (EST)
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> 
> Remeber that if it snowed in Orange or Bathurst Canberra's chance of getting
> snow dropped to ZERO.  Anyone know why that is?
> 
> Jane
> Bayswater, Melbourne
The topography. Canberra is in a rainshadow from the west and south-west,
so a SW airstream (as in a classical cold outbreak) normally won't 
bring precipitation of any kind to Canberra. On the other hand, Orange
in particular (Bathurst to a lesser extent), being near the top of the
ranges, is ideally situated for precipitation from that direction.

Canberra tends to get most of its snow in S/SE airstreams, but air
from that direction which is cold enough for snow is rarer than from
the SW - hence the higher frequency of snow at comparable altitudes
on the Central Tablelands, despite their more northerly location.

I'd be interested to see stats from somewhere like Tumbarumba - same
altitude as Canberra, but exposed to the SW (but not the south).

Blair Trewin

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From: vortex at wwdg.com
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:52:57 -0700
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Towers begining to go up round the Horsham area.

Paul Yole
2 McDonald Street
Murtoa.  Vic. 3390
Australia
Phone: (035) 385 2699
Mobile: 0419 367 920
Email: vortex at wwdg.com

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: a QLD Snow story
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> 
> Hi Truffles,
>             I am not sure whether this is the same incident or not, but 
> on the 31st of May 1977, there was a severe cold outbreak over 
> south-eastern Australia. Snow fell in many places in Victoria, some for 
> the first time in recordable history. I have details about this cold 
> outbreak's influence in Victoria only.
> Rod Aikman
I don't have any reports of snow, but there were maxima as low as 7.0
at Darling Downs stations on 1 June 1977 (after near-zero minima), so
this would make sense. This was certainly the most significant SE
Australian cold outbreak of the latter half of the 1970's.

Blair Trewin

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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Bureau of Meteorology Adelaide
Issued at  1.45 pm on   Monday , 01/03/99
For people in the the West Coast east of Streaky Bay, the Eastern
Eyre Peninsula, Lower Eyre Peninsula north of Cummins, the Lower
South East and higher parts of the Greater Adelaide and Mount Lofty
Ranges, the Mid North and Flinders districts.

 Severe winds with large hail and heavy rain are forecast with
thunderstorms in the above districts during this afternoon and
evening.

Localised damage is possible and people are advised to take
precautions, such as to secure loose outside objects and undertake
outdoor activities with caution.

Matt Smith

ASWA General Committee Member

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From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Thunder in Melbourne
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:09:45 +1100
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Hi All

Just heard thunder, coming from a cell to the north of Ashwood, It is only
small, but hey at least it has something. The general thunderstorm
development has died over the last few hours but hopefully it will pick up.

Got to go.

Good storms to all

Nick

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61 is bluddy expensive in Brissie for pertrol
he lowest I ve seen is 53.9 but 57 is the norm for me




>Our thanks to Anthony Cornelius and Michael Bath for keeping us up to 
date
>with info during our travels, to GMH for supplying a damn good chase 
car,
>Macdonalds for supplying dinner, Mobil for the cheap petrol (61.9c in 
Melb
>compared to 69.1c 60 km down the road) and Clyve Herbert for chase 
reports
>and insanity in regular doses.
>
>Jane
>Bayswater

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From: Dane Newman [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne Thunder
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 17:15:09 +1100
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Weak cell to the WNW producing some thunder, just heard hail in Mill
Park near Bundoora. Dane

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Hi everyone,
            Looked promising earlier here, with a few good towers going 
up just to the south-east about 1500 EDT. Everything seems to be fizzing 
out at the moment. Current obs (1715 EDT). dry bulb temp. 31.4; rel. 
humidity 33%; dew point 13.7; wind NNE. Just not the surface humidity 
here that you have in the south.
Rod

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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> 
> Weak cell to the WNW producing some thunder, just heard hail in Mill Park near Bundoora. Dane

There is a very impressive-looking cell on the radar NE of Melbourne
at the moment (1720), but it is fairly small and isolated.

The most significant line of storms in the region currently runs NNW-
SSE through the SE of South Australia. The area of storms which was 
in the Hamilton area has moved to the east of Mortlake, but is 
weakening.

The only rainfall total of consequence at a real-time station is
3mm at Hamilton.

Blair Trewin

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Hi every1,

Nothing happening here at the moment (7.30 p.m.)...some towers went up 
about 4.30 but collapsed just as fast. There seemed to be more action to 
the south but no cirrus...a little bit humid (for here) but no real 
'feel' about it. I just hope tomorrow is as good as the LI's indicate.

BTW, Rod, I remember it snowed in Bendigo May 31. 1977.! I watched it 
from the second floor at Bendigo High School in my Geography class (year 
11)!!

Kevin.

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: RE: aussie-weather: Storm Chasers Photo...
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 19:38:35 +1100
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Aaarrrghhhhh, what have you done with the pic - I wanted to send it to a new
member of the list & it's gone

It was a brilliant pic!!

Jane
Bayswater

>Hello everyone,
>		I have put a photo of some of us on Rooty Hill in
>Western Sydney at:  http://hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au/~m3052695/s_chasers.html
>Cheers,
>	Paul.

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 18:37:54 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,

There were a few nice little t'storms around today, some nice thickish
anvils (although not very high) I was hoping for something, as in
between lectures the sky was looking fairly promising at around 4pm from
my view...however it looks like nothing came out.  There's some old
lightning strikes on Energex, but that's about it at the moment...too
much to hope for something tonight and o'night?  Well...with our cool,
light ESE wind here, I think so...although we *may* get lucky, it was
around 28-29C in town today, with the DP near 23C, it was very steamy
when the cloud thinned...but it's much cooler now at 25C.

First day of uni and there's some t'storms near Brisbane, and severe
t'storms in Eumundi (about ~130km N of here) - typical!

Anthony from Brisbane

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 19:01:49 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,

One resident described a "funnel of wind" that got louder and louder,
before it hit, and also the damage was in a thin strip...so it's
possible there was a tornado, interestingly, the damage that it showed
was a series of buildings, that only had a section of their roof taken
off (not just a little, but the entire roof section) and then had the
other part of their roof comepletely undamaged.  One house was
lifted/moved off it's foundations slightly.

Anthony

Ben Quinn wrote:
> 
> Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
> 
> (8am in the morning)
> I've just heard from very reliable sources of quite a severe storm in
> Eumundi (approx 85km Northish of Brisbane), and it's just come over the
> radio now "Mini Tornado in Eumundi this morning" (GGGrrrr).  I've had
> 65mm here since about 6:30 this morning, and its really coming down,
> quite windy too.. no thunder yet, but there is a nice little storm on
> the tracker over Caloundra at the moment.. BOM is warning of heavy falls
> north of Brisbane, with stream rises and local flooding this morning.

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 19:21:49 +1100
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And this from the ABC website:

"All of a sudden the heavy rain eased off a littleand the wind blew like
crazy but it only lasted less than a minute," she said.

"By the time we got to close all the windows - it was all over.

"Down the back of our place there is one very large gum tree and the
whole top of it was ripped out, just twisted to pieces and in our
frontyard the trunk of another tree has snapped off halfway up.

"The furniture all around our house was all over the place and pot
plants on the front veranda were thrown from one end to the other.


Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> One resident described a "funnel of wind" that got louder and louder,
> before it hit, and also the damage was in a thin strip...so it's
> possible there was a tornado, interestingly, the damage that it showed
> was a series of buildings, that only had a section of their roof taken
> off (not just a little, but the entire roof section) and then had the
> other part of their roof comepletely undamaged.  One house was
> lifted/moved off it's foundations slightly.
> 
> Anthony

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 19:21:52 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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'Mini-tornado' hits Eumundi
                   Monday 1 March, 1999 (12:24pm AEDT)
            


                   A Eumundi resident, in the Sunshine Coast hinterland,
has
                   described a huge windstorm which swept across her
property this
                   morning as a mini-tornado.

                   Denise Patman of Eumundi Rise Bed and Breakfast says
it struck
                   without warning.

                   "All of a sudden the heavy rain eased off a little
and the wind
                   blew like crazy but it only lasted less than a
minute," she said.

                   "By the time we got to close all the windows - it was
all over.

                   "Down the back of our place there is one very large
gum tree and
                   the whole top of it was ripped out, just twisted to
pieces and in
                   our frontyard the trunk of another tree has snapped
off halfway
                   up.

                   "The furniture all around our house was all over the
place and pot
                   plants on the front veranda were thrown from one end
to the
                   other.

                   "We live on a hill at the back of town looking down
over a valley
                   and it seems to have come up the valley in one
direction and then
                   whipped around and come from the front of the house."

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:04:45 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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The total severe t'storm/tornado/hail/flood damage for QLD stands at
$125million for summer I *think*, not sure if it included spring.

Anthony from Brisbane

Nandina Morris wrote:
> 
> Morning BEn - just alittle past 9 in Vic.  Boy, you people have
certainly had ypour share of damaging weather, haven't you?  I can
understand the Weather buffs being enthusiastic - just hope there
is minimal, if any, damage this time and no tragedies.
> 
> Take care
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Nandina

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From: "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Feb storm record for Canberra
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 03:34:07 PST
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Hi all,

Now I have your attention, just thought I would let
you know that Canberra continued its record making run
in relation to storms. In January we had a new record of
12 days with thunder.

Feb continued the run of records - sadly in the wrong
direction!! We had a total of 0 - yes that is ZERO storms
which I guess must at least equal any previous month's
record for the fewest storms in a summer month.

Total precipitation for Feb at Canberra airport was 10mm
(average is 54mm). I recorded a similar amount at Higgins
for the month.

The total summer rainfall was also well below average
120mm received (average is 174mm).

So much for the La Nina hype. Whilst much of the eastern 
sea-bord fringe has received well above average rain (as 
presumably has much of the tropics) over the summer, there
are as usual some major exceptions. Sadly, Canberra seems
to be one of them. 

I guess that Canberra (along with much of the southern inland
of NSW) is more likely to see the impact of La Nina (ie 
average or above rainfall) during the autumn. Here's hoping...

Patrick

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 22:43:24 +1100
From: Richard Bath [soapyb at tig.com.au]
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Hi all,

Best snow story I can remember (and I was only 7 years old):
Bendigo on June 23 (I think), 1981.  Woke up at 5am, very cold in my bed
room, touched the window..the dew felt as though it had frozen, but I
went back to sleep.

Go to school (I was in Grade 2  at  Kennington Primary), with everyone
talking about the snow falling earlier that morning (it was everyones
"show & tell" story).  Then at 9:20am it started snowing outside: the
first time I ever saw snow!  But it didn't settle and only lasted 5
minutes.

My cousins who live on a farm 20km south of Bendigo said that they woke
up to find 5-10cm of snow over their paddocks, with the sheep hopelessly
grazing around with snow on their backs!

Apparantly nearby Mt.Alexander (745 metres) had people going up for a
ski (rumour or exaggeration.....I don't know?).

Any other stories/versions of this outbreak?

Also, there seem to be many similarities between this summer and the
80-81 and 88-89 summers which both had super ski seasons and low level
falls the winter after.  Any comments or am I just dreaming?

Regards,
soapy


Blair Trewin wrote:
> I don't have any reports of snow, but there were maxima as low as 7.0
> at Darling Downs stations on 1 June 1977 (after near-zero minima), so
> this would make sense. This was certainly the most significant SE
> Australian cold outbreak of the latter half of the 1970's.
> 
> Blair Trewin

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