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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: 22nd January 1999

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001 "Joanne Walker" [jmwalker at hotmail.com]         hail storm chermside
002 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    hail storm chermside
003 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]         Melbourne Weather
004 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Melbourne
005 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Melbourne
006 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]               Melbourne Weather
007 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange Weather
008 Michael_Bath at amp.com.au                        heavy rain Sydney
009 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Rain
010 "Manda .� M" [manda at tpgi.com.au]               TC-Olinda
011 "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]      It's RAINING!!!!!!!!
012 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          High diurnal ranges - update
013 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  TC Bulletins
014 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Melbourne Weather Report
015 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Admin: MicroSoft Email Clients
016 "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au]      Fauna and the Weather
017 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           melbourne update
018 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          High diurnal ranges - update
019 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          Animations of Water Vapour Satpics
020 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Admin: MicroSoft Email Clients
021 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Heavy rain
022 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  June 1949 snow (was High diurnal ranges - update)
023 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com]     Introduction and Melbourne weather
024 "Manda .  M" [manda at tpgi.com.au]               Admin: MicroSoft Email Clients
025 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Thunder in Perth
026 Ira [jra at upnaway.com]                          No tornado nth of Perth!
027 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Animations of Water Vapour Satpics
028 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       Re: introducing Jim Crouch
029 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Admin: MicroSoft Email Clients
030 "James Crouch" [jacrouch at AODC.gov.au]          Re: introducing Jim Crouch
031 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        June 1949 snow (was High diurnal ranges - update)
032 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Melbourne
033 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          June 1949 snow (was High diurnal ranges - update)
034 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Admin: MicroSoft Email Clients
035 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Admin: MicroSoft Email Clients
036 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Looking for AMOS Bulletin material
037 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        NE Victoria starting to fire up
038 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Brisbane 1974 Floods
039 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       Looking for AMOS Bulletin material
040 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          satpics
041 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       satpics
042 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       satpics
043 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Brisbane - Interesting Week?
044 "John  Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]             Re : Storm 18/12/98
045 "John  Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]             eather Program
046 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       rain at Oakhurst today (Sydney)
047 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          rain at Oakhurst today (Sydney)
048 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]               hey
049 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          hey
050 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]              Obs.
051 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Hail Bangladesh and Oz record size
052 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   hail storm chermside
053 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   High diurnal ranges - update
054 Richard Bath [soapyb at tig.com.au]               Geelong Storm
055 disarm at braenet.com.au                          severe storm/squall line warning for melbourne
056 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Brisbane 1974 Floods
057 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]            Severe Thunderstorm Advice
058 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]            Severe Thunderstorm Advice
059 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       Brisbane Tropical Cyclone Warning Centre
060 disarm at braenet.com.au                          another VIC severe storm advice
061 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Perth Storms
062 Duane Van Schoonhoven [vanscho at ozemail.com.au  Mini-tornado (was Admin: MicroSoft Email Clients)
063 "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]      Admin: MicroSoft Email Clients
064 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]            Victorian Storms...
065 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Victorian Storms...
066 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Melbourne rules!!!!OK
067 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Melbourne rules!!!!OK
068 Ben Quinn [Bodie19 at eisa.net.au]                Melbourne rules!!!!OK
069 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]               Melbourne Storm

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From: "Joanne Walker" [jmwalker at hotmail.com]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: hail storm chermside
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:17:02 PST
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Your right, I can remember becuase my boyfriend had to fix the lifts in 
Myers Chermside since the hail had got through melted and water had 
soaked everything (clothes carpets etc.) and made its way to the 
escalators!  His aunts car also is a good reminder of the storm of late 
November last year (dints everywhere!) I was on top of a building in the 
corner of the QUT campus at Gardens Point watching the storm come 
towards me (I had been watching it make its way from Beaudesert on the 
lightning tracker) After hearing how bad Kangaroo Point got hit with 
roofs flying of units and everything, I was amazed I got away unscathed 
because I had to get a guy to help me open the door to get back inside 
because the wind was so strong it was pushing the door closed.  I guess 
this is my closest encounter of the storm kind....
Hahh!!
JO
Oh yeah and the morning after I was on B105 battle of the sexes and I 
had to tell my story above on air so sorry if Im repeating myself to 
those who were listening (if any on the list)!!



>
>
>>  on one occassion Kedron/Chermside areas were  with meter 
deep hail?..anyone remember more about that one? .. was a few years ago 
now...
>
>I think it was Easter 97...when one of the shopping centre's doors 
caved
>in because of the hail drifts, and Myers (I think) had it's first 'hail
>sale' :)
>
>Anthony

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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: hail storm chermside
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:42:17 +1000
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Hi all, James from Brisbane here

My report on that storm is here:
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm/reports/mar31_97.html

Cheers



>Your right, I can remember becuase my boyfriend had to fix the lifts in 
>Myers Chermside since the hail had got through melted and water had 
>soaked everything (clothes carpets etc.) and made its way to the 
>escalators!  His aunts car also is a good reminder of the storm of late 
>November last year (dints everywhere!) I was on top of a building in the 
>corner of the QUT campus at Gardens Point watching the storm come 
>towards me (I had been watching it make its way from Beaudesert on the 
>lightning tracker) After hearing how bad Kangaroo Point got hit with 
>roofs flying of units and everything, I was amazed I got away unscathed 
>because I had to get a guy to help me open the door to get back inside 
>because the wind was so strong it was pushing the door closed.  I guess 
>this is my closest encounter of the storm kind....
>Hahh!!
>JO
>Oh yeah and the morning after I was on B105 battle of the sexes and I 
>had to tell my story above on air so sorry if Im repeating myself to 
>those who were listening (if any on the list)!!

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From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne Weather
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:46:41 +1100
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Hi All

Up nice and early today, and was greeted with a beautiful forecast for
Melbourne.

Showers and thunderstorms developing during the day with possible locally
heavy rainfall and wind squalls. Moderate northeasterly wind and local
seabreezes.

Max 29.

The trough has deeepened over western Vic and is now very evident as cloud
builds over the area.

Melbourne this morning is mild, around 18, calm, and mainly cloudy.

There is a beautiful smell in the air, and anticipation for today is high,
so here hopes so.

Will be at work until 5pm so hopefully happens later, if not will have to do
the sweet dodgy, 'ahh sorry boss I'm feeling really crook, I need to go
chase some storms, I mean go home'.

Good storms to all

Nick

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:53:41 +1100
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Things have started firing up already - there are 2 good sized precipitating
cells at present - 1 near Wonthaggi and a more slightly more intense one
just off the coast at Rosebud.

Overcast with As, Ac, Cu - ooh, why is it a work day???
Weather moving from the NW.  20.1C  DP 12.9C  Pressure 1010.3

Roll on.......... 

Jane
Melbourne


Toner Express (A'Asia) Pty Ltd
Phone: 1800 061 334

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Take a day off Jane!!

Jimmy

At 07:53 AM 1/22/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Things have started firing up already - there are 2 good sized precipitating
>cells at present - 1 near Wonthaggi and a more slightly more intense one
>just off the coast at Rosebud.
>
>Overcast with As, Ac, Cu - ooh, why is it a work day???
>Weather moving from the NW.  20.1C  DP 12.9C  Pressure 1010.3
>
>Roll on.......... 

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From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne Weather
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:42:37 +1100
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Morning All (especially the highly anticipting melbournites),

I've been up since 8am and things can't get much better weather wise as
you've already heard.  I'm going to try to get out for the afternoon after
a hit of tennis this morining.  I'm hoping that everyone/anyone with radar
or more info than me can keep the list updated as to what's happening down
here to make my chase more sucessful (unless I cop a direct hit at my house
from a huge storm - then it will chase me!).  

Any more reports from up Albury way from last night's storms?  I predicted
(to myself so as not to look stupid) that there would be activity up that
way yesterday on Wednesday so any more reports would be nice. 

Thanks.

Can you all smell that - YEP - It's a storm brewing.  It's the only one
thing that smells better in the morning than coffee. MMMmmmmm..............

Andrew McDonald.

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Orange Weather
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:20:41 +1100
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Hi All,

Woke up to a fine sunny day. I see they had plenty of rain out where I saw
the storms but only 1mm locally.
At 9.20 ESDT 21C, 1014, 35%, ENE 5 Knots. No cloud.   GRRRRR!!!

 Terry.

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Subject: aussie-weather: heavy rain Sydney
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Hi all,

Very heavy rain is currently (9.30am) falling at Parrmatta, probably about
20-30mm/hr.

At my place at Oakhurst (20km west of Parramatta) we recieved 66mm in the
24 hours to 9am this morning. Many suburbs would have topped 100mm for the
24 hours.

regards,
Michael Bath

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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: Rain
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Good morning every1,

Jimmy here

While the Melbourne luckies get there storms, we get the next much needed
thing....rain. Since 9am yesterday, dry Schofields has received 57.0mm
which is quite good rain for this area. I am now convinced we will be
getting the conditions like the late 80's and early 90's associated with la
Nina.

Jimmy Deguara
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Jimmy Deguara
Vice President ASWA
from Schofields, Sydney
e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/

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From: "Manda .� M" [manda at tpgi.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: TC-Olinda 
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Hi all,
������� They have finally named the cyclone...Olinda.Perhaps another developing
this afternoon......Pretty busy in the coral sea thats for sure...Nice to watch
on the satpics.
����� Not much weatherwise in Bowen at the moment ...nice sunny windy day..(did
i say nice???)


����������������������������������� Manda.��� �:-)

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From: "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: It's RAINING!!!!!!!!
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:06:34 +-1000
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ohmigod!ohmigod! ....  I know that smell!!!!  I know that SOUND!!!!

(runs to a window)

It is wet out here at The Gap, west Brisbane dudes!!!!!!!!!

rals!!!!

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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: High diurnal ranges - update
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:49:46 PST
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Laurier,

I went to the National Library and had a look for 
some articles on this event. Sadly (for me) I ended 
up searching the wrong year - I looked at June 1949
instead of 1946. Nevertheless June 1949 had some
interesting cold outbreaks and widespread snow even
into Qld. 

The results of my searchings has been posted at

www.wildthingtours.com/wx1949

Patrick


>>
>Let us know what you find, Patrick. I'm interested in that event, too,
>and I haven't seen anything written about it.
>
>Laurier Williams
>Australian Weather Links and News

>Blair Trewin wrote....

>It happened at Adaminaby in June 1946 (maximum -7 after a
>minimum of -16, over deep snow), but I'm not aware of any other 
>similar instance outside the alpine area this century. Blair Trewin

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:37:15 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Ben Quinn wrote:
> 
> I only just became aware that we can get TC Bulletins from NOAA for
> Australia.  Here are the URL's...
[snip]

I think we need to have someone post comparable TC Bulletin links to
our BoM.

Michael Scollay

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Eyesight report -
8/8 - shelf As, some AcCas to the S, disorganised shreds of Cu floating
about elsewhere.
Temp 23.3C DP 11.9C
Pressure down to 1009.6

Radar summary - activity just north of Bendigo, light stuff to the NW in
Maryborough, defined active cells in Bass Strait developing further after
moving off the coast over the water.
Nothing worth reporting in Melb metrop area at present, but the signs are
all there for some thundering this afternoon.

Jane
Melbourne

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"truffles at xenon.net" wrote:
> 
> ohmigod!ohmigod! ....  I know that smell!!!!  I know that SOUND!!!!
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Hey, could all those MicroSoft clients out there, in particular
MS-Outlook Express I think, please supress the sending of the above
"Part 1.2". I think it's some sort of proprietary signature. 

It's most off-putting to other recipients on the list to receive an
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strictly to plain text until there are accepted world-wide standards
in this regard.

Thanks.

Michael Scollay

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From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather Net" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Fauna and the Weather 
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Hi all,
�
Some time ago there was brief discussion on animals/birds etc and their
reactions to weather conditions. I mentioned that there had recently been
a book on the subject published, but couldn't recall details.
�
Details are, for those interested.......
�
Nature's Weather Watch - A Guide to Forecasting and weather by Observing
animal and plant life
�
Written and illustrated by Glenda John, Mail Service 316, Cunningham Road,
Goomboorian, Qld, 4570
�
Printed by Qld Complete Printing Services, Nambour, Qld, 4560
�
Lovely fine day here, with a bit of a breeze. Top Temp around 28 forecast.
Toy cyclone (so far) over 1000 km to East as most would be aware. Still
another low further north, but showing no bad tendencies as yet. Just
another day in heaven.
�
Bye,
�
Bill Webb
Proserpine

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Some interesting signs of low level mixing starting to appear, cells to the
SSE apparent from Abbotsford now.  Nothing ballistic, just slow and steady
over Melbourne.

Decent cell still to the east of Bendigo(10-20mm/hr) - has been there for a
while.

Jane
Melbourne

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Thought I would re-post the address to the June 1949 
heavy snow articles - this time in clickable form (for those whose
email program allows that):

http://www.wildthingtours.com/wx1949

For the record, despite my predictions for amazing storms
(or was that a result of my predictions...?) on Tuesday of 
this week, the afternoon rapidly fizzed. 

I never cease to be astounded at how quickly and 
effectively the onset of adry NW wind can wipe out 
the best looking potential. 
This has happened a bit this season thus far.

I ended up chasing some cells to the east of Canberra
as far as Braidwood until the SE change (and cloud
and fog came in.) As Michael T observed, the front did
not interact or enhance the cells in the NW airstream.
(I am glad David C found a decent storm in spite of it
all.)

For me it was time to head home and really learn the lesson
that I should be EXTREMELY caustious about telling the 
list that you are about to be treated to a great show.

Patrick

PS Thanks to Michael B for the great work on the archives of 
this list.

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On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:59:43 +1100, Michael Scollay
 wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I set up an automagic download of water vapour satpics from;
>
>ftp://geo.msfc.nasa.gov/Weather/GMS-5/gif/mapped/wv/globe/
>
>then using UNIX software (whirlgif, xanim) that converts 90 x 290Kb
>gif files into a new animated gif file of about 25MB that runs a
>"movie" of nearly 4 days in about 10 seconds. This shows where most of
>the circulation of water vapour is happening around Australia.
>
Wow. Michael, I think you've mentioned this program before. Where do
you get it? And what computer are you running it on (or more
correctly, how much memory do you have to whip through 25mb in 10
secs!)

>Seeing is really believing as it comes "alive". You see Northern
>Australia and individual major cells develop and dissipate from day to
>day. It's like a bomb going off each day - simply spectacular. It is
>easy to pick up the upper level wind sheer taking place in the top of
>major storms and the feed of moisture into the rain around Sydney
>today plus the circulations around developing cyclones in the Coral
>sea and Pacific Ocean...
>
Yep. I prefer the water vapour satpics to the IR ones a lot of the
time, and I know the Qld BoM forecasters use them a lot. There are
several sites that have them, including mapped Aussie ones, listed in
the satpic section on my homepage.


-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/

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At 10:52 AM 22-01-99 +1100, you wrote:
>"truffles at xenon.net" wrote:
>> 
>> ohmigod!ohmigod! ....  I know that smell!!!!  I know that SOUND!!!!
>[snip]
>>   ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>>    Part 1.2    Type: application/ms-tnef Encoding: base64
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Hey, could all those MicroSoft clients out there, in particular
>MS-Outlook Express I think, please supress the sending of the above
>"Part 1.2". I think it's some sort of proprietary signature. 
>
>It's most off-putting to other recipients on the list to receive an
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>
>Thanks.
>
>Michael Scollay

Yeah, I agree with Michael, please everyone try to use normal text when
sending messages to the list.

Jacob

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Schofields at 1:50 pm receiving heavy rain and long periods of it expected.

Jimmy
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Jimmy Deguara
Vice President ASWA
from Schofields, Sydney
e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:42:42 +1100
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Patrick Tobin wrote:
> 
> Thought I would re-post the address to the June 1949
> heavy snow articles - this time in clickable form (for those whose
> email program allows that):
[snip]

Thanks Patrick. A snow freak like me really enjoys these historical
clips and in particular their account of what synoptic condition
provoked it. I simply don't have the time to paw through the archives
these days:-(

I am really interested in tracking down another snow event that
followed the breaking of that huge drought of 1906. This snow event
was perhaps years after the drought and was preceded by an extended
period of cool, wet weather somewhat typical of autumn during decent
La Nina's. This snowfall was reputed to have cut off the Blue
Mountains. Indeed, it seems to have been confined east of the Great
Divide unlike most severe cold outbreaks that come with S or SW
approaching cold fronts. It arrived in almost dead calm conditions.
This smells of a "cut-off low" sporting a large mass of cold air with
a thickness around 5250 since it produced dry snow of about 2ft deep
in the Hartley Valley west of Sydney over about 2 or 3 days max. An
even greater depth of snow was reported at Mount Victoria and
Katoomba. A similar snow fall occured in May, 1974. Similar in the
sense that it came in almost calm conditions within an E/SE on-shore
air flow but nothing like the magnitude of the one above.

The reason that the date details are so vague is because the author of
the book "Green Mountains & Cullenbenong" (?) (Bernard O'Reilly) was
just a kid at the time and he tells of the account based on his own
experience and that recalled by elders. I've pawed through this book
looking for more clues to no avail:-( Alas, I think Bernard has passed
on...

Michael Scollay

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G'day to everyone on the list. My name is Chris. I'm 26 nearing 27 and 
hail (I hope later tonight :-))  from North Balwyn in Melbourne, which 
is about 11 kms to the east of the CBD.  I have been on the list for 
quite a while but have so far remained one of the lurkers until now. My 
interest in storms has existed for as long as I can remember, and 
reading all the posts over the last couple of months has increased my 
knowledge of terminology, what conditions need to be in place for storms 
and many other topics tenfold. I've become interested in weather 
photography, and in particular storms, in the last three years after a 
stint in country Victoria taking mainly sunsets but also some wicked 
cloud shots. After I saw that the photos came out alright I got hooked 
and haven't really looked back, although I'm not exactly living in a 
place renowned for a lot of storm activity. 
                                                        
It's for this reason that I recently spent 7 weeks in Darwin (late Oct - 
Mid Dec) which was a fantastic experience. The lightning displays were 
phenomenal, like being in a disco with a strobe light flickering 
non-stop. I got some decent photos with a basic camera but it doesn't 
accurately show the enormity of these storms. One thing is for sure I'll 
be going back at that time of year again despite the incredible heat.

I've just been up to Doncaster Shoppingtown roof (about 2kms east with a 
320deg. view)  to see what's happening. There are cells developing to 
the NE again as they were yesterday evening. There is also dark upper 
level cloud about 100km (at a guess) to the north. I'm guessing this 
could be the cell from Bendigo. It looks to me more like rain this 
evening than storms but I hope for all my fellow Melbournians sake that 
I'm terribly wrong  :-)

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Sorry had no idea it was happening........Manda

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Getting thunder right now here in Perth, no rain yet, quite dark to the NW,
so looks like more to come as the mid level disturbance approaches. 8/8
Cloud cover, was only about 2/8 at 9am, current temp at 11:10am WST is
28.3C, dew point is 15.5C, ESE winds at 7km/h.

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:31:12 +0800
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Well all, sorry to be a bummer but there was no tornado in WA. The guys
from the buereu phoned me to confirm that it was the result of a severe
downdraught thats all. Nevertheless a nasty storm. How the media
reported it as a tornado is beyond me. Im going into the buerau today to
go over some stuff with them so ill have more details tonight. Barry
said that the updraught was 45 degree's, too upright. Stay tuned.
		Ira Fehlberg

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:33:53 +1100
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Laurier Williams wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:59:43 +1100, Michael Scollay
>  wrote:
> 
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I set up an automagic download of water vapour satpics from;
> >
> >ftp://geo.msfc.nasa.gov/Weather/GMS-5/gif/mapped/wv/globe/
> >
> >then using UNIX software (whirlgif, xanim) that converts 90 x 290Kb
> >gif files into a new animated gif file of about 25MB that runs a
> >"movie" of nearly 4 days in about 10 seconds. This shows where most of
> >the circulation of water vapour is happening around Australia.
> >
> Wow. Michael, I think you've mentioned this program before. Where do
> you get it? And what computer are you running it on (or more
> correctly, how much memory do you have to whip through 25mb in 10
> secs!).

Laurier & others,

Nothing but the best...Open source software...I have found to be
largely superb but you need to know what you are doing re compiling
etc.

The "xanim" I run has been compiled for Solaris 2.5.1 (SPARC) See;

http://xanim.va.pubnix.com/home.html#index

I used to use "convert" for gif animations but this would have turned
90 x 290Kb gif files into something around 200MB! Then some colleagues
put me onto "whirlgif", which is also pointed-to from the xanim home
page. See;

http://www.danbbs.dk/~dino/whirlgif/

I compiled the source of this using gcc (GNU C-Compiler) for execution
under Solaris 2.5.1 (SPARC).

As for computers and operating systems, all I can say is that it's
taken Bill's mob a long time to discover how to do memory and disk I/O
in the sense of removing hard barriers to memory use, efficient
virtual memory and decent disk I/O. UNIX has been "there" doing this
stuff properly for years. If I had an Intel-based platform, I'd run
Redhat Linux without question. I wouldn't even boot Windows. I'd just
use the Linux boot floppy and blow away Windows-whatever for a $110
refund. See;

http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html

So "my" computer is a humble Sun 170MHz SPARC (SS5) with 96MB of RAM
(not that this parameter is that important:-) Virtual memory is 139MB
and swap is 70MB (which is more important). The Solaris 2.5.1 kernel's
configured to allow up to 1509 processes to run "simultaneously"
(subject to process "nice"). Only one of those is "SunPC", which is my
sole concession to MicroSoft dominance of the desktop and our
corporate environment. I have to terminate SunPC/Windows95 every day
because it's bound to crash after 24hrs anyway if it hasn't already
needed to during the day:-( Meanwhile, Solaris just keeps on going and
going, searching the WWW under cron and script commands while I
sleep:-) I am told that Linux is faster and even more robust than
Solaris, even on a SPARC box! Beating Solaris is a hard act to
follow...

So it's mainly the Solaris kernel, decent virtual memory, disk, and
video I/O that leads to the processing of a 25MB gif file through
xanim is 10 seconds or so. On a modern 230Mhz Pentium PC running Linux
with as much real memory, it would probably run quicker. Under
Windows95, it would go OK also but don't attempt to do something else
at the same time! Windows98 might be better again, but I don't know
and WindowsNT?, it'll just shut down momentarily if the network
disappears, come back to display the animation again then stop and
wait for the network interrupt. But again, don't print at the same
time!

[snip]

Thanks for the tip on other links!

Michael Scollay

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Jim,

On behalf of everyone on the list: welcome! Please don't hesitate to ask
and answer questions and offer observations.

regards, Michael


At 11:19 21/01/1999 +1100, you wrote:
>
>Hi All,
>
>I've been lurking on this list for a couple of weeks and it seems to be the
>done thing to introduce oneself so here goes...
>
>Lieutenant Jim Crouch, RAN
>Officer in Charge
>Applied Meteorology and Oceanography Centre
>Maritime Headquarters (MHQ) Australia (Sydney)
>
 [snip]

*==========================================================*
 Michael Bath  Oakhurst, Sydney   mbath at ozemail.com.au
                 Australian Severe Weather
       http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
*==========================================================*

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Manda, could you please provide your e-mail so that I can send a presonal
message regardiong ASWA?

Jimmy

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From: "James Crouch" [jacrouch at AODC.gov.au]
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Thanks.  I wont hesitate, and I'll ask and offer (as appropriate).


-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Bath 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Friday, 22 January 1999 14:50
>Subject: aussie-weather: Re: introducing Jim Crouch
>
>
>Jim,
>
>On behalf of everyone on the list: welcome! Please don't hesitate to ask
>and answer questions and offer observations.
>
>regards, Michael

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: June 1949 snow (was High diurnal ranges - update)
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> 
> Thanks Patrick. A snow freak like me really enjoys these historical
> clips and in particular their account of what synoptic condition
> provoked it. I simply don't have the time to paw through the archives
> these days:-(
> 
> I am really interested in tracking down another snow event that
> followed the breaking of that huge drought of 1906. This snow event
> was perhaps years after the drought and was preceded by an extended
> period of cool, wet weather somewhat typical of autumn during decent
> La Nina's. This snowfall was reputed to have cut off the Blue
> Mountains. Indeed, it seems to have been confined east of the Great
> Divide unlike most severe cold outbreaks that come with S or SW
> approaching cold fronts. It arrived in almost dead calm conditions.
> This smells of a "cut-off low" sporting a large mass of cold air with
> a thickness around 5250 since it produced dry snow of about 2ft deep
> in the Hartley Valley west of Sydney over about 2 or 3 days max. An
> even greater depth of snow was reported at Mount Victoria and
> Katoomba. A similar snow fall occured in May, 1974. Similar in the
> sense that it came in almost calm conditions within an E/SE on-shore
> air flow but nothing like the magnitude of the one above.
> 
> The reason that the date details are so vague is because the author of
> the book "Green Mountains & Cullenbenong" (?) (Bernard O'Reilly) was
> just a kid at the time and he tells of the account based on his own
> experience and that recalled by elders. I've pawed through this book
> looking for more clues to no avail:-( Alas, I think Bernard has passed
> on...
> 
> Michael Scollay
The only obvious one that I can think of might be the 1900 event,
which reportedly blocked the western rail line for several weeks,
but I was under the impression that this event had its greatest
impact a bit further west (with the heaviest falls around Blayney),
so it could well be a different event being referred to here. 

I'll see what I can dig up, although information from the 1900-1920
period is not easy to come by. 

The June 1946 event was a S/SE one with a low off the southern NSW
coast and ridging well to the south of Tasmania (the coldest
temperatures, though, were in the following days with anticyclonic
clear skies over deep snow cover). The synoptic situation wasn't
that different to that which produced the Gippsland flood last year,
except that the coldest air got pushed further north, producing snow
on the Northern Tablelands this time around.

The local newspaper accounts of 1946 refer to a storm on the night of
the Kelly siege in Glenrowan in 1880 as being the only comparable one
in the Monaro. (The accounts of Glenrowan refer to it as being a 
clear and frosty night, which is what you'd expect in northern Victoria
in a S/SE airstream, being in the rainshadow of the Victorian Alps).

Blair Trewin

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Showers sitting along the ranges east of Melbourne between Mansfield and
Warragul (in the .3-10mm/hr range).  Virtually no activity over the
metropolitan area at present and we have a shelf of As with some virga, and
a few flattish Cu (humilis?) below.
Temp 26.2C
DP 12.4C
Pressure 1008.1

Just waiting, waiting....

Jane
Melbourne

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Thanks Michael,

I remember reading about the snow event you refer to 
in the Green Mountains book myself. It may be hard 
to find the story as spinning through the micro film 
viewer is a tedious process. I miss the "search" 
feature that we have got used to in the digital age.
Nevertheless I will look out for it as I get time.

I should also add that the Canberra Times article 
posted at http://www.wildthingtours.com/wx1949
IS from the 1946 event. The SMH artilces are from 1949.

 I have now copied some more articles from 1946 and 
will scan and post themin the next few days.

Although it was my mistake to pick the wrong year's
micro-film roll, the similarity of dates of the two events
was intriguing (and meant I didn't pick the mistake 
earlier). Perhaps the 3rd week of June might
be a favoured time for such outbreaks?

Patrick


>I am really interested in tracking down another snow event that
>followed the breaking of that huge drought of 1906. This snow event
>was perhaps years after the drought and was preceded by an extended
>period of cool, wet weather somewhat typical of autumn during decent
>La Nina's. This snowfall was reputed to have cut off the Blue
>Mountains. Indeed, it seems to have been confined east of the Great
>Divide unlike most severe cold outbreaks that come with S or SW
>approaching cold fronts. 
>
snip

>The reason that the date details are so vague is because the author of
>the book "Green Mountains & Cullenbenong" (?) (Bernard O'Reilly) was
>just a kid at the time and he tells of the account based on his own
>experience and that recalled by elders. I've pawed through this book
>looking for more clues to no avail:-( Alas, I think Bernard has passed
>on...
>
>Michael Scollay

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:05:30 +1100
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"Manda . M" wrote:
> 
> Sorry had no idea it was happening........Manda

That's a common observation, Manda. Most of the esoteric problems that
occur with Email happen because of no conscious action or
configuration attempt caused perhaps by simply following the "install
wizard" of the client without question or getting any reasonable
choice offered. It's not your or anyone in particular's fault.

It's a fearful world that puts the power of a media like the internet
into the hands of massive corporations with only one objective -
dominance.

We just have to be aware of what is going on and ensure that the power
of the internet media always remains in the hands of the people...

Hey, this all wouldn't seem so bad if MicroSoft had made the choice to
consult and get approval from the IETF for an "open" digital signature
format. Nothing's stopping them other than the presence of other
interim standards. It's the gall they have in assuming that people
would accept their "standard" without any question or prior knowledge.

[snip original message about unsolicited MS-TNEF]

Michael Scollay

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Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> 
> Manda, could you please provide your e-mail so that I can send a presonal
> message regardiong ASWA?
> 
Jimmy,

Try mailto:manda at tpgi.com.au

[snip]

Michael Scollay

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With a couple of weeks remaining before the February issue is
due to go to the printers, I'm severely short of material for
the AMOS Bulletin.

Even though it's been a less than fulfilling summer so far for
such endeavours, one of the things that I was thinking would be
good to run would be a chase report - better still if there were
some decent photos to accompany it.

Is anyone interested in writing one? (or submitting one they've
already written)?).

Blair Trewin

(Editor, AMOS Bulletin)

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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Lots of storms starting to fire up over the eastern Victorian
ranges. Also a line around Shepparton (for which a Severe
Thunderstorm Advice has been issued).

Blair Trewin

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Hi all,

Tomorrow night (Saturday), on Channel 7 6:30pm (Brisbane time) there's a
documentary on the 1974 Brisbane floods, done by World Around Us.  It's
the 25th anniversary this year of the '74 floods.

For those people lucky enough to live in Brisbane (no bias there!) the
State Library of QLD is holding a photo exhibion of the '74 floods.  I
contacted the State Library, and it opens this Wednesday, and it's open
between 10am and 8pm Mon to Thurs and 10am to 5pm on Fri, Sat and
(Sun?)  It's on level 2 of the library.  

Anthony

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Blair,

The only chase worthy so far is from the Friday 13th November 1998. Link to
the reports by myself and David Croan from here:
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/index.html
I can provide better quality scans if you wish to use the material there.

Also, I believe you asked for an intro to ASWA for an earlier edition of
the Bulletin. Would you still like this?

regards, Michael
President, ASWA


At 15:58 22/01/1999 +1100, you wrote:
>With a couple of weeks remaining before the February issue is
>due to go to the printers, I'm severely short of material for
>the AMOS Bulletin.
>
>Even though it's been a less than fulfilling summer so far for
>such endeavours, one of the things that I was thinking would be
>good to run would be a chase report - better still if there were
>some decent photos to accompany it.
>
>Is anyone interested in writing one? (or submitting one they've
>already written)?).
>
>Blair Trewin

*==========================================================*
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                 Australian Severe Weather
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Boy is the GMS working great today. Probably afraid of getting wet or
something!

Jimmy
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Vice President ASWA
from Schofields, Sydney
e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
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Jimmy,

I'd say there is a scheduled outage for 00z to 05z. It was the same
yesterday. Check the schedule on the JCU ftp server:
ftp://ftp.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/schedule.gif
though this seems to be last weeks schedule - doh!

Michael


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>Boy is the GMS working great today. Probably afraid of getting wet or
>something!
>
>Jimmy

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Sorry,

Try this link:
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/difacs2.cgi?0465

As I suspected!

Michael

At 16:16 22/01/1999 +1100, you wrote:
>Boy is the GMS working great today. Probably afraid of getting wet or
>something!
>

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:48:52 +1000
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Hi all,

Well, finally our weather has came to the stage where we can say "it all
depends what that/those tropical cyclone(s) do in the coral - certainly
a great feeling to say that once again! :)

The models have been interesting for next week, with both NGP and MRF
having TC Olinda moving S and slowly weakening, giving us some strong
winds and rain, what they also show is a nice trough, but this won't do
anything without warm, moist winds.  ECWMF on the other hand shows TC
Olinda moving SE (the same with the JTWC models) and then a nice trough
with SE/NE winds over us early-mid next week.  This coupled with a fair
(50-70kt) jetstream might give us a storm day or two.  I'd like the
latter of these two possible situations, as any TC that comes below 25S
from now to early next week will be sheared to bits.

Of course...my interpreation and/or the models could be wrong and it
could just be boring...

Anyway, we'll see what happens.

Anthony from Brisbane

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From: "John  Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:20:50 +1100
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Hi Michael B,

I was talking to my nephew today(20/1) & he told me that a mate in the SES
(I think) took some photo's of a funnel cloud at North Creek or there
abouts.
If I can get my grubby little hands on them, I'll send them down  to
you.........I just hope they turned out.....................................
See Ya
John

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Hi Paul,

I've only got one thing to
say.......AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!! :-)

Ahhhhh that feels better...................
See Ya
John

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I recorded 66.6mm to 9am this morning followed by 48.0mm to 4pm this
afternoon. This is at Oakhurst in western Sydney in a standard BoM gauge.

Michael

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I am at Schofields and received 57mm up to this morning and about another
30mm from last check which would not have changed much. Only 5 km straight
distance from Michael Bath at Oakhurst.

Jimmy

At 05:35 PM 1/22/99 +1100, you wrote:
>
>I recorded 66.6mm to 9am this morning followed by 48.0mm to 4pm this
>afternoon. This is at Oakhurst in western Sydney in a standard BoM gauge.
>
>Michael

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hey all
after my busy schedule over the past few days, have received enormous amt
of email. can't read them now, cos we are just about to leave to grafton
for my b'day party tomorrow night! olinda, eh?? funny name!! looks cool
though!! am hoping for some nice weather while in grafton, nice meaning a
lightning storm with no rain right at the peak of my party!! hee hee.
wishful thinking i know!
well, bye all
see yas tuesday probably!
steve from teh god coast

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Happy stormy birthday Steve.

Jimmy

At 04:45 PM 1/22/99 +1000, you wrote:
>hey all
>after my busy schedule over the past few days, have received enormous amt
>of email. can't read them now, cos we are just about to leave to grafton
>for my b'day party tomorrow night! olinda, eh?? funny name!! looks cool
>though!! am hoping for some nice weather while in grafton, nice meaning a
>lightning storm with no rain right at the peak of my party!! hee hee.
>wishful thinking i know!
>well, bye all
>see yas tuesday probably!
>steve from teh god coast

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While all you lucky Sydney peoples rainguage is copping a flogging, we are
here sweating!

heres out current metars:

METARAWS YTRE 0600Z 12011G15KT //// 25.4/18.1 Q1008.4 RMK      RF00.0/000.0

AT my place is somehwat warmer (due to being protected from the breeze to a
large extenet....) its currently 30.9 c.....humidity is 53% and baro is 1008
and wind from the SE - NE

Paul

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Hi David (and Michael and...)

Thanx for getting me up to speed on the Bangladesh storms.
I'm always ready to find something new to store in the old (and 
occasionally failing) data bank. :)

Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.

P.S. We probably should find out more about Bangladeshi supercells (?)



>I have to say Kevin that I do accept reports of such enormous hailfall
>in Bangladesh. The storms, supercells that is, in that country are in
>all likelihood the most powerful on earth and develop in environments
>with trully phenomenal CAPE - in excess of 8000J/kg which is much
>higher than that in which the US midwest storms develop and certainly
>also much greater than anywhere here.

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: hail storm chermside
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I remember seeing a couple of pictures of this event on the net, but it was
on a photo page, not a weather page, and was labelled snow in the tropics.

I will try to find them....tic.....tic......tic.....

Found them....almost straight away !!! typed snow & chermside and up it
came.

The link is

http://www.photos.net.au/cats/m/peter.htm

The photos are great by the way, but it is embarrassing to read the
mislabelling as 'snow'.


Regards
Michael


-----Original Message-----
>From: James Chambers 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Friday, 22 January 1999 0:40
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: hail storm chermside
>
>
>Hi all, James from Brisbane here
>
>My report on that storm is here:
>http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm/reports/mar31_97.html
>
>Cheers

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Thanks for posting those news paper cuttings. Very interesting, during
winter I change from storm chasing to snow chasing, interesting to note that
before that the night of the first 1949 snowfalls that Sydney had a ' heavy
thunderstorm'.

Also interesting is the train being held up at Werris Creek by snow, this
town near the Liverpool ranges is only at a moderate elevation.

Michael

>
>I went to the National Library and had a look for
>some articles on this event. Sadly (for me) I ended
>up searching the wrong year - I looked at June 1949
>instead of 1946. Nevertheless June 1949 had some
>interesting cold outbreaks and widespread snow even
>into Qld.
>
>The results of my searchings has been posted at
>
>www.wildthingtours.com/wx1949
>
>Patrick

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:36:36 +1100
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Hi all,

Golf Ball hail reported near Geelong on ABCTV weather.
Storm approaching Forest Hill with thunder.
Anyone Anyone?

Soapy

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BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

 
Severe Thunderstorm Warning

for the Melbourne metropolitan area, Geelong  the Mornington and Bellarine
Peninsulas and Port Phillip Bay

Issued at 1936 on Friday the 22nd of January 1999  

Severe thunderstorms are developing over northern and western suburbs and are
expected to track slowly southeast.  Local flash flooding, hail and wind gusts
to 100km/h are expected over northern and western suburbs and are possible in
other suburbs over the next 2 to 3 hours. 

This warning is valid only until 9.30pm and should not be broadcast after this
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Brisbane 1974 Floods
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:48:01 +1100
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At one stage about 36 hours ago the NGP model was seeing a low ( Ex Cyclone
Olinda, I think ? ) on Monday cutting down past Fraser Island to the Gold
Coast,  rainfall was at max intensity for the prev 12 hours, the model
quickly dropped that scenario.

It could have been a close repeat of 1974, if it happened.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
>From: Anthony Cornelius 
>To: Australian Weather Mailing List 
>Date: Friday, 22 January 1999 16:10
>Subject: aussie-weather: Brisbane 1974 Floods
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>Tomorrow night (Saturday), on Channel 7 6:30pm (Brisbane time) there's a
>documentary on the 1974 Brisbane floods, done by World Around Us.  It's
>the 25th anniversary this year of the '74 floods.
>
>For those people lucky enough to live in Brisbane (no bias there!) the
>State Library of QLD is holding a photo exhibion of the '74 floods.  I
>contacted the State Library, and it opens this Wednesday, and it's open
>between 10am and 8pm Mon to Thurs and 10am to 5pm on Fri, Sat and
>(Sun?)  It's on level 2 of the library.
>
>Anthony

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PRIORITY
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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY PERTH
ISSUED AT 3.40 PM FRIDAY 22/1/1999.

PEOPLE IN THE:
    INLAND WEST GASCOYNE,
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STORMS MAY BE ACCOMPANIED BY VERY STRONG WINDS AND HAIL THAT COULD
RESULT IN DAMAGE TO PROPERTY.  HEAVY RAIN MAY LEAD TO FLASH FLOODING.


SEVERE WIND GUSTS TO 90 KM/HR WERE RECORDED AT SOUTHERN CROSS AT
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PEOPLE ARE ADVISED TO KEEP A LOOKOUT FOR THUNDERSTORMS AND IF STORMS
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THIS ADVICE WILL BE UPDATED AT 6.30 PM THIS EVENING.

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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1802 on Friday the 22nd of January 1999

This advice affects people in the following weather districts:

Riverina and the
Lower Western east of Ivanhoe.

Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area this evening.
Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing destructive winds.

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 * move indoors away from windows

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 * beware of fallen trees and power lines

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TV CRAWL: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current for the Riverina and Lower
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NOT FOR BROADCAST: This advice message is valid until 9pm. The Bureau 
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TC fans:

Tropical Cyclone info from the Brisbane BoM office - a new product area:
http://www.BoM.GOV.AU/weather/qld/cyclone.shtml

Warnings and maps will be available.

Great news!

Michael

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BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
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NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

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Issued at 1954 on Friday the 22nd of January 1999 for the Central and North
central districts.

Severe thunderstorms are developing in the central district and are considered
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Thunder and lightning for most of the day here in Perth, and its forecast
to continue overnight, also, 2 people were struck by lightning, this report
from ABC news.

Two men survive lightning
strike
Friday 22 January, 1999 (3:16pm WST) 
            
Two men are recovering in Swan District Hospital after a
lightning strike at a vineyard east of Perth.

The men, both aged in their 30s, were working amongst vines at
the Sunny Valley Vineyard on West Swan Road this afternoon
when lightning struck near them.

They suffered residual electric shocks and minor burns and are in
a stable condition.

Ambulance officer Kevin Kavanagh says there were lots of
conductors for the lightning strike, and the men had a lucky
escape.

"There was metal fencing, there was metal wires, plus the rain,
everything was wet where they were working," Mr Kavanagh
said.

"They're both conscious, but they can't remember anything about
the incident. The pair of them appear to have been thrown to the
ground and they've woken up and thought 'what the hell's gone
on?'." 

Its 6:15pm here right now, I can CG lightning in the distance to the NW.
This is the Perth Forecast.

PERTH AND METROPOLITAN:

A ROAD WEATHER ALERT IS CURRENT.
Showers and thunderstorms continuing overnight. Becoming fine
tomorrow.  SE winds and an afternoon seabreeze.

 MIN: 19  MAX 31

Jacob

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:19:10 +1030
From: Duane Van Schoonhoven [vanscho at ozemail.com.au]
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Hi everyone,

What I would like to see, besides a thunderstorm, is for all
messages sent to this list to be trimmed a bit. I personally,
don't like having to reread several lines of quoted text only
to find one line sent in response. Will you trim your msgs if
I say, "Please!", "all right then, pretty please!"   : )

And now about the tornado in Adelaide...

In the THE ADVERTISER newspaper today (22 Jan 99) -

"A Mini-tornado blew through the eastern suburbs yesterday.
...snip... the wind removed a section of tiled roof.

A Bureau of Meteorology spokesman described the occurrence
as a "wind devil" caused by sea breezes meeting opposing
easterly winds."

Cheers to all, and a big welcome to the new list members!

Duane Van Schoonhoven
Paracombe, South Australia


Jacob wrote:

> Yeah, I agree with Michael, please everyone try to use normal text when
> sending messages to the list.

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ANYWUN????

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Jane O'Neil just called to report of a very severe storm near Melbourne.  
She and Andrew MacDonald have video and stills: hopefully we'll hear 
from them soon.  Does anyone know if there was any damage?  The sat. 
pic's look pretty impressive.

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:36:42 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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I've talked to a few friends in Melbourne, they reported a LOT of
lightning lighting up the sky.  They didn't report any damage in their
area, but they lived in the SE section, but one of them described to me
what appeared to be ~ Force 6 winds.

Anthony

Paul Graham wrote:
> 
> Jane O'Neil just called to report of a very severe storm near Melbourne.
> She and Andrew MacDonald have video and stills: hopefully we'll hear
> from them soon.  Does anyone know if there was any damage?  The sat.
> pic's look pretty impressive.

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne rules!!!!OK
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:29:10 +1100
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Well, Andrew McDonald, his sister Claire, and I were up Mt Dandenong under
the watchful reporting of Clyve Herbert who was mobilised along various
train lines throughout eastern Melbourne late this afternoon.  What looked
promising as I headed up flattened out totally (or so I thought), but Clyve
reported some pretty intense goings on that he could see from his angle that
we couldn't see and advised that we sit tight for at least half an hour.
And dead right he was too!

2.5 hours of continuous light show cc's, cg's, cc's & cg's together (not
much thunder until it got right overhead) which we got on video and still
photo, lowerings, shelf clouds, microbursts (most of the wind damage seems
attributable to them), 4 cells merging into one monster that was starting to
turn, at least 4 direct hits in the northern suburbs that left a residual
glow on the ground and more,,,,much more.  Yes, there will be a full report
go up on this one.  Flash flooding down the side of Mt Dandenong, along
Canterbury Road, wind damage in Sunbury and some of the northern suburbs.
You probably know more about this that I do.

There must have been 70 people up there with us watching it and a real party
atmosphere - so maybe the Victorian contingent of the ASWA is larger than we
thought - we just have to identify them 


I need a cup of tea,

Jane
Bayswater, Melbourne

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Well done Jane and Co. Hopefully, you can attract some of those prospective
lightning enthusiasys into ASWA. The more the merrier.

I am hoping for some action here in Sydney tomorrow but we need some solar
energy...

Jimmy

At 11:29 PM 1/22/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Well, Andrew McDonald, his sister Claire, and I were up Mt Dandenong under
>the watchful reporting of Clyve Herbert who was mobilised along various
>train lines throughout eastern Melbourne late this afternoon.  What looked
>promising as I headed up flattened out totally (or so I thought), but Clyve
>reported some pretty intense goings on that he could see from his angle that
>we couldn't see and advised that we sit tight for at least half an hour.
>And dead right he was too!
>  [snip]

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:40:44 +1100
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Jane ONeill wrote:
> 
> Well, Andrew McDonald, his sister Claire, and I were up Mt Dandenong under
> the watchful reporting of Clyve Herbert who was mobilised along various
> train lines throughout eastern Melbourne late this afternoon.  What looked
> promising as I headed up flattened out totally (or so I thought), but Clyve
> reported some pretty intense goings on that he could see from his angle that
> we couldn't see and advised that we sit tight for at least half an hour.
> And dead right he was too!
> 
> 2.5 hours of continuous light show cc's, cg's, cc's & cg's together (not
> much thunder until it got right overhead) which we got on video and still
> photo, lowerings, shelf clouds, microbursts (most of the wind damage seems
> attributable to them), 4 cells merging into one monster that was starting to
> turn, at least 4 direct hits in the northern suburbs that left a residual
> glow on the ground and more,,,,much more.  Yes, there will be a full report
> go up on this one.  Flash flooding down the side of Mt Dandenong, along
> Canterbury Road, wind damage in Sunbury and some of the northern suburbs.
> You probably know more about this that I do.
> 
> There must have been 70 people up there with us watching it and a real party
> atmosphere - so maybe the Victorian contingent of the ASWA is larger than we
> thought - we just have to identify them 
> 
> I need a cup of tea,
> 
> Jane
> Bayswater, Melbourne

Just came over the news "A wild eclectrical storm lashes Melbourne's NW
suburbs, with flash flooding and mass power loss" .. sounds great down
there!! :)

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:43:04 +1100
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Hi All,

Just got home from the top of Mt Dandenong with Jane and did we get a show
tonight.  We got there expecting nothing and got almost everything (sorry
Jimmy - no hail).  We are going to write up a report over the next few days
so there'll be more details then.  Put it this way - the best display of
lightning in Melbourne for years.

See Ya.

Andrew McDonald.

Document: 990122.htm
Updated: 5th February, 1999

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