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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: 19th January 1999

    From                                           Subject
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001 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Perth Heatwave
002 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange Weather
003 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          Canberra Storm fatigue?
004 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Canberra Storm fatigue?
005 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]            Canberra Storm fatigue?
006 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]            Todays Chasers
007 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Todays Chasers
008 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          Canberra Storm fatigue?
009 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Canberra Storm fatigue?
010 "Joanne Walker" [jmwalker at hotmail.com]         Following Manda's lead...
011 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]            Following Manda's lead...
012 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Hi
013 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Following Manda's lead...
014 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Following Manda's lead...
015 Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]         Following Manda's lead...
016 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]           Following Manda's lead...
017 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Sydney Development
018 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          High diurnal ranges - update
019 "Manda .� M" [manda at tpgi.com.au]               Me.
020 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          Canberra storms (19/1/99)
021 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            storm
022 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Welcome!
023 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]                        Welcome Manda and Jo
024 disarm at braenet.com.au                          sydney
025 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Sydney Development
026 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]              state development
027 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Old fashion southerly buster
028 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange Weather
029 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       Sydney storm chase 19/01/99
030 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   When do school holidays finish - Jimmy
031 David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]              Southern Tablelands storm chase 19/1

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Looks like its going to be a long heatwave for Perth this week, with the
mrf and the ngp suggesting that the west coast trough will stay off the
coast until at least Sunday, meaning hot NE winds for Perth.

The heatwave starts tomorrow with 36C expected, 40C on Wednesday, we may
get some cooler air on Thursday from the south coast as a new high moves
in, BoM are saying 34C, 37C for Friday and it looks like at this stage
temps will be in the high 30s for both Saturday and Sunday.

We still haven't had a 40C yet in Perth this summer, hottest so far being
39.7C on the 15th December.

Jacob

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Orange Weather
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:18:56 +1100
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Hi All,

Still fine and sunny in Orange. No sign of yesterdays storm over Mudgee way
heading over this area. After I sent the mail yesterday there were a few
lightning crackles on the radio, lasting about 10 minutes.

At 9.10am in Orange, no cloud, 26C, 1012, 22%, N/NNW 5 knots.

My reports might be a bit sporadic for a while but if anything worthwhile
happens I will be on with a report quick smart.


 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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Subject: aussie-weather: Canberra Storm fatigue?
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:06:02 PST
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Hi all, 

I know that the words  in the subject line of this post 
would be anathema to most on this list... This is just to 
let you all know that Canberra was treated to an impressive l
ight and sound show between 12.30am and 2.00am EDT 
this morning. 

Lots of close CG's in Higgins and short periods of 1 flash 
per second. So there will be lot's of tired people around today. 

I recorded 3.5 mm of rain from the storm.

This afternoon/evening again could be interesting, I note that AVN is 
predicting a lifted index of -8 for this area at 8.00pm EDT. Low level 
moisture levels are also much higher than in the last few days.

Currently, bright and sunny with patches of ac,as,9.30am 
airport temp 24.5,  DP 14.5

Patrick

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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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What can you see there in terms of Goulbourn and north (Sydney)??

Jimmy


At 03:06 PM 1/18/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Hi all, 
>
>I know that the words  in the subject line of this post 
>would be anathema to most on this list... This is just to 
>let you all know that Canberra was treated to an impressive l
>ight and sound show between 12.30am and 2.00am EDT 
>this morning. 
>
>Lots of close CG's in Higgins and short periods of 1 flash 
>per second. So there will be lot's of tired people around today. 
>
>I recorded 3.5 mm of rain from the storm.
>
>This afternoon/evening again could be interesting, I note that AVN is 
>predicting a lifted index of -8 for this area at 8.00pm EDT. Low level 
>moisture levels are also much higher than in the last few days.
>
>Currently, bright and sunny with patches of ac,as,9.30am 
>airport temp 24.5,  DP 14.5
>
>Patrick

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From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Canberra Storm fatigue?
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:18:52 +1100
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Hi all,

Hey Jimmy.

Finally a day worth looking at the BoM say.
High to Very High Fire Danger.
Fine day before an afternoon or evening thunderstorm develops.
Very warm to hot, but tempered on the coast by a moderate to fresh
northeast seabreeze.

We may have one!!!!!

******************************************
Grant Boyden

http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden/storm
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IRC =  au.austnet.org and #2kyRacing port 6667

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> From: Jimmy Deguara 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Canberra Storm fatigue?
> Date: Tuesday, 19 January 1999 10:08
> 
> What can you see there in terms of Goulbourn and north (Sydney)??
> 
> Jimmy

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From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Todays Chasers
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:31:12 +1100
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Hi all,
I have to work today but will be on my mobile if anyone who is chasing
would like updates.

0412 661 937 is the number.

Good Luck

******************************************
Grant Boyden

http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden/storm
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IRC =  au.austnet.org and #2kyRacing port 6667

ICQ = 23511159
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We Michael and I may head out later if something pops up so we will try to
keep on contact.

There is a haze and that may be a sign of moisture in the lower layers. Or
pollution

Jimmy

At 10:31 AM 1/19/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>I have to work today but will be on my mobile if anyone who is chasing
>would like updates.
>
>0412 661 937 is the number.
>
>Good Luck
>
>******************************************
>Grant Boyden

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Jimmy,

The sky is pretty uniform in all directions including towards 
Goulburn. Patches of scattered as, ac otherwise clear.
The ac, as suggests a nice cap to be broken through
this afternoon.

No cu developing yet but still a bit early.

Airport Temp 26, DP holding up nicely at 14.9

Patrick
>
>What can you see there in terms of Goulbourn and north (Sydney)??
>
>Jimmy

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I hope the cap is sufficiently strong 1-2 degrees C to allow maximum
effiency and for it to be broken later on. It seems to indicate that.

jimmy

At 04:06 PM 1/18/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Jimmy,
>
>The sky is pretty uniform in all directions including towards 
>Goulburn. Patches of scattered as, ac otherwise clear.
>The ac, as suggests a nice cap to be broken through
>this afternoon.
>
>No cu developing yet but still a bit early.
>
>Airport Temp 26, DP holding up nicely at 14.9
>
>Patrick

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Weel hello everyone from another newbie to the list.  I found the list 
through the Australia Severe Weather page, a page which I frequently 
access to check out reports of storms and storm chases.
About me:
Im a 21 F from Brisbane, just finished a B Ap Sci (Maths) studying 
statistics and work for CSIRO in Trop Ag doing Statistical Analysis. Yet 
my real love is any extreme weather activity, so eventually Id like to 
do something regarding meteorology.  At present I get excited by 
crackles in the radio while listening to 4KQ in my 1980 Mazda 323, keep 
my internet page at the Lightning Tracker so I can watch the storm 
develop and move, and reqularly check BoM for any storm forecast and 
warnings. So as you can see, my problem is that my knowledge is very 
limited and this is where you guys come in handy. For example, in the 
past week Ive learnt that a large negative lift index is a good 
indication for a potential severe storm (am I correct?).  So if anyone 
knows any good courses, web pages, basically anything to increase my 
knowledge, please let me know. Hey I might be conducting my own storm 
chase by next Summer! 
Wishing I was in Canberra,
Joanne - call me Jo

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Welcome to both of you.


******************************************
Grant Boyden

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> From: Joanne Walker 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: aussie-weather: Following Manda's lead...
> Date: Tuesday, 19 January 1999 11:10
> 
> Weel hello everyone from another newbie to the list.  I found the list 
> through the Australia Severe Weather page, a page which I frequently 
> access to check out reports of storms and storm chases.
   [snip]

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:26:33 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi Manda,

I'm the QLD ASWA rep, I know that you live in Bowen, but if you know
that you'll be down in Brisbane one time, and you're interested in ASWA,
then please email either myself (cyclone at stealth.com.au) or James
(jamestorm at ozemail.com.au) who will be co-running the QLD sub-branch
with me; to see if there'll be a meeting on during that date.  As you'll
be most welcome to join us!

This goes for anyone else who lives in QLD, or NE NSW.

Anthony Cornelius
(QLD Rep of ASWA)

> "Manda . M" wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
>                  Just joined the list and i am looking forward to
> hearing all the news...
> I'm from Bowen, North Queensland.We have been having some pretty great
> storms lately....heading towards our first cyclone of the season
> perhaps.....pretty blowey here at the moment around 25-30 knots and
> scuddy.Just waiting to see what this low east of us intends
> doing....(Who Knows!!)Anyway now i know why this place i live in is
> called Blowin Bowen.
>                                             Manda  :-)

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:34:04 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi Jo,

Just thought I'd let you know that this Saturday (23rd), we're holding
the first QLD Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) meeting.  The
meeting will be held at 9:30am and the address is:

14 Kinsella St, Belmont, Brisbane

Please email me personally on cyclone at stealth.com.au if you can attend.
You may be able to learn a fair bit at the meetings, and we're all
weather hobbiests so don't be afraid!  And we don't bite....much :)

If anyone else from Brisbane hasn't spoken up yet, please do so and
email me if you can come.

Thanks,

Anthony Cornelius
(QLD ASWA Rep)

PS - you're judgement on the LI's is correct - here's a rough guide (but
guide only)

0 to 2 = showers probable
0 to -2 = thunderstorms probable
-2 to -4 = severe thunderstorms possible
-4 and below = severe thunderstorms probable
-5 and below = tornadoes possible
Anything below -9 is extremely unstable!

Joanne Walker wrote:
> 
> Weel hello everyone from another newbie to the list.  I found the list
> through the Australia Severe Weather page, a page which I frequently
> access to check out reports of storms and storm chases.
> About me:
> Im a 21 F from Brisbane, just finished a B Ap Sci (Maths) studying
> statistics and work for CSIRO in Trop Ag doing Statistical Analysis. Yet
> my real love is any extreme weather activity, so eventually Id like to
> do something regarding meteorology.  At present I get excited by
> crackles in the radio while listening to 4KQ in my 1980 Mazda 323, keep
> my internet page at the Lightning Tracker so I can watch the storm
> develop and move, and reqularly check BoM for any storm forecast and
> warnings. So as you can see, my problem is that my knowledge is very
> limited and this is where you guys come in handy. For example, in the
> past week Ive learnt that a large negative lift index is a good
> indication for a potential severe storm (am I correct?).  So if anyone
> knows any good courses, web pages, basically anything to increase my
> knowledge, please let me know. Hey I might be conducting my own storm
> chase by next Summer!
> Wishing I was in Canberra,
> Joanne - call me Jo

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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Hi Jo,

Jimmy Deguara here.  Welcome to the list. As usual, I try to welcome as
many newbies as possible. I won't introduce myself more than the fact I am
21 only 9 years ago (hehe), single storm chaser and absolutely fascinated
by weather of a severe nature. My smile is proportional to the seveity of
the weather. I am a mathematics teacher and enjoy dealing with a wide
variety of students in high school at Bidwill High School. I also enjoy the
holidays although these were not very productive... You will find more
background information from the main home page of the Australian Severe
Weather including a picture of Michael and I: I wasn't smiling that day and
there was a storm far away... of course it was around 42C also.

Finally, being knew to the list, you may be interested to know there is a
weather association known as the Australian Severe Weather Association
(ASWA) which is a group formed from members mostly on this list. This
society delas with all aspects of severe weather: study, research, storm
chasing and so on. If you are interested in finding out more about this
group, don't hesitate to ask questions to myself or any others on the list.
My e-mail jimmyd at ozemail.com.au  . I think you may have read this message

Good luck with your quest for information through the list

Jimmy Deguara
Storm Chaser
Vice President ASWA


At 04:10 PM 1/18/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Weel hello everyone from another newbie to the list.  I found the list 
>through the Australia Severe Weather page, a page which I frequently 
>access to check out reports of storms and storm chases.
>About me:
>Im a 21 F from Brisbane, just finished a B Ap Sci (Maths) studying 
>statistics and work for CSIRO in Trop Ag doing Statistical Analysis. Yet 
>my real love is any extreme weather activity, so eventually Id like to 
>do something regarding meteorology.  At present I get excited by 
>crackles in the radio while listening to 4KQ in my 1980 Mazda 323, keep 
>my internet page at the Lightning Tracker so I can watch the storm 
>develop and move, and reqularly check BoM for any storm forecast and 
>warnings. So as you can see, my problem is that my knowledge is very 
>limited and this is where you guys come in handy. For example, in the 
>past week Ive learnt that a large negative lift index is a good 
>indication for a potential severe storm (am I correct?).  So if anyone 
>knows any good courses, web pages, basically anything to increase my 
>knowledge, please let me know. Hey I might be conducting my own storm 
>chase by next Summer! 
>Wishing I was in Canberra,
>Joanne - call me Jo

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:12:49 +1100
From: Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]
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Hi Jo
         Welcome aboard you are quite correct the greater the negative index
the better im sure you will hear from the other guys also. Im also relatively
new to the site and have learnt a lot from the guys also.im sure you will do
the same.
regards
Brian Gembrook Victoria


Joanne Walker wrote:

> Weel hello everyone from another newbie to the list.  I found the list
> through the Australia Severe Weather page, a page which I frequently
> access to check out reports of storms and storm chases.
> About me:
> Im a 21 F from Brisbane, just finished a B Ap Sci (Maths) studying
> statistics and work for CSIRO in Trop Ag doing Statistical Analysis. Yet
> my real love is any extreme weather activity, so eventually Id like to
> do something regarding meteorology.  At present I get excited by
> crackles in the radio while listening to 4KQ in my 1980 Mazda 323, keep
> my internet page at the Lightning Tracker so I can watch the storm
> develop and move, and reqularly check BoM for any storm forecast and
> warnings. So as you can see, my problem is that my knowledge is very
> limited and this is where you guys come in handy. For example, in the
> past week Ive learnt that a large negative lift index is a good
> indication for a potential severe storm (am I correct?).  So if anyone
> knows any good courses, web pages, basically anything to increase my
> knowledge, please let me know. Hey I might be conducting my own storm
> chase by next Summer!
> Wishing I was in Canberra,
> Joanne - call me Jo

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
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Well, thank goodness - we can now swell the ranks of the female members of
the list to total of 7 out of approx 86!!   ;)

Welcome onboard!

Feel free to ask anything of the list even if you feel the question is
simplistic or crazy - someone somewhere will always have the answer - the
list has turned into a real community with a sense of community spirit.
You'll enjoy it immensely.

Jane
Bayswater, Melbourne

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:38:21 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,

Grant got in contact with me, he's at work and he has reported large Cu
development to the SW and to the W.  Anyone else have any
reports/feedback?

Anthony from Brisbane reporting on behalf of Grant from Sydney :)

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Thanks Blair,

That was very interesting... the Glendale site is also on a gently NNW 
facing slope so I guess there would be lower maxima experienced in 
nearby locations with more southerly aspects. 

I am now intrigued by the June 1946 event and may have to spend some 
time in the National Library looking through newspaper archives of the 
time.

Patrick



>If the site was where I think it was (at the National Park depot off
>to the left just before Glendale Crossing) it's not even quite
>optimal for very low temperatures, being a bit up the slope from the
>very base of the valley.
>
>I'd expect that some of the more favoured spots in the valleys,
>especially the deeper ones like the Orroral and Rendezvous valleys,
>could have got close to -20, especially if they have ever been in a 
>situation with anticyclonic clear skies over snow cover (the June
>1946 event comes to mind here). I doubt if there would have been 
any>snow cover in 1971 when Gudgenby got its -14.6.



>metres. It happened at Adaminaby in June 1946 (maximum -7 after a
>minimum of -16, over deep snow), but I'm not aware of any other 
>similar instance outside the alpine area this century. 
>
>Blair Trewin

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From: "Manda .� M" [manda at tpgi.com.au]
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�Hi,
���� I am 29 years old and have lived in Bowen for around 10 years ...
Our main income here is seasonal work...so in the off season we are usually
out camping with the Gold detector.......Going to some pretty remote and
wonderful places .....be it hot..and dry.Husband is a scratcher(gold
enthusiast)and has some good finds.I just love camping in general.
���� I am fascinated with severe weather and be it weather in general...
I have been through a couple of cyclones up this way (that scared the hell
out of me...)� And also have been on camping trips that well ended up being
disarstrous....thanks to some tropical storms up the Palmerston Highway
heading towards Cairns a few years ago.
I wasnt really afraid of storms until then.We were camping on a mountain in
the rainforest when i could here the rain and see some pretty spectacular
lightning heading towards us ...All we could do was take refuge in our tent
and just sit there and hope no trees fell on us.....i could hear them being
struck by lightning..and falling.It was like we were actually in the clouds
it was so loud .And the guys had to push the tent roof up every minute so the
tent didnt fall on us.Thankfully it passed and we survived ...Every night that
week we had for our camping holidays we had a storm..we also found out that
our tent was NOT waterproof.and spent the mornings drying out.
������ Oh for the love of the great outdoors ..huh.�
Jimmy i would love to know more about the AWSA ....thanks!!
����� �
���������������� Manda� �:-)�

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Hello once again from Canberra,

Large cb are forming (exploding??) in all directions - yes
even towards Goulburn and further NE - ahead of a 
NW-SE cloudband. 

There appears to be good upper level outflow and some 
signs of middle level shear. It looks like this afternoon will 
be a matter of take a deep breath, hang 
onto your seat and enjoy the ride.........

At 2.30 pm EDT airport temp is 34.9, DP of 10

Patrick

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 03:07:45 +1100
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Heavy storm located 10 km SSW of Katoomba (max intensity at 2.40 pm was
> 100 mm/hr)  more cells currently (or 1450 hrs) NW and Sw of Bowral and
S and E of Canberra and near Bega. 
Anyone going out those ways...
keep it touch

don white

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Hi Manda and Jo!

Welcome to the list. If you don't learn at a least a little from this 
list - ask more questions!!! :)

Have fun,
Kevin from (a much cooler - 25 C) Wycheproof.

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Hi Jo and Manda welcome to the list i am sure you will enjoy it, Dane
Newman Melbourne. ICQ 10266685 

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5pm and i can see that large cell that affected katoomba slowly moving east
i think, anvil is overhead now, and i could see large development all
afternoon down to the south, wollongong etc... any updates on the one in
the metrapolitan area ??
Matt Smith

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:33:45 +1100
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Anvilus Maximus here at Wollongong at present ( 5pm ), not my favourite
position,  had some light rain about 4.30pm and a token rumble, all active
bases are still back over the Illawarra escarpment at least 50-75km
distance. Have a feeling that not much will happen until close to S wind
change later this evening, there seems to be a double inversion on the coast
today, we have our usual seabreeze inversion, shallow at approx 800m, but
with a  steep 5C temp difference. But as Patrick mentioned the congestus
earlier today ( 2pm ) also flattened out with another more widespread
inversion, this one has since been broken by the storms westwards.  My hope
is the approach of the front may wipe out the shallow coastal inversion
allowing some growth overhead.

Visual check and there appears to be a much larger storm to SW, with a
ragged but more vigourous anvil, possibly south of Goulburn, but will be
running into Shoalhaven river gorge area east of Tarago / Lake Bathurst /
Lake George ( guessing of course ).

There is another cell just westwards, but it is doing its usual edge of the
escarpment trick, falling to bits at the sight of the coast.

Michael


>Grant got in contact with me, he's at work and he has reported large Cu
>development to the SW and to the W.  Anyone else have any
>reports/feedback?
>
>Anthony from Brisbane reporting on behalf of Grant from Sydney :)

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Great to hear people getting some action at last......seems like a nice cell
sw of me in the Scone / Singleton areas..hard top tell due to haze. Nuthin
here whatsoever! Tomorrow is different though....forecast is for storms
(note plural!!)...so heres hoping!

WELCOME to our new members! well done .......!! Hope u have a enjoyable
weather experience!

Paul From, Taree NSW Mid North Coast
Secretary ASWA

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Old fashion southerly buster, with a twist
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Southerly has just past through southern Illawarra in last 30 minutes,
strange part is although it is blowing S/SW here at 30 knots, just 15kms out
to sea the low scud is still streaming in from the NE, the reverse to
normal, as the Southerly tends to move up the ocean a few minutes ahead.

Visually this is my prognosis - What I think has happened is that a nice
cell matured over Kangaroo Valley - Moss Vale area at same time the S moved
through that area, it outflowed a lovely gust front which I got on video,
this gust front brought the winds right back to the SW for a few minutes,
the gust front stalled near Port Kembla / Wollongong, and the S front had to
play catch up again. Looking grim as far as severe storms go, very high
bases, thunder only every 10 mins or so, S front does not appear to be
disturbing cloud base too much, therefore some general rain may develop in
lieu of the much anticipated storms .

Michael Thompson
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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Hi All,

Hi to all the new folks. WELCOME

Good large cu building up at the present. First anvils I have seen for a
while.
Wind Gusting to 30 Knots from NW. (Generally where our storms  come from.)
7.40pm ESDT, 28C, 1010, 15%, wind much cooler.

 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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Jimmy Deguara and I set out from my place in western Sydney around 1.30pm
just as Cb towers started to dominate the tablelands from west to SSW. It's
always nice to see development of cumulonimbus with great contrast from the
blue skies surrounding them.

We waited and observed the conditions from Kemps Creek (outer SW suburbs).
There was a line of activity stretching from west to south, but most
development was near Bowral and Katoomba. It seems that the upper level
winds failed to arrive again today resulting in the activity remaining in
virtually the same location the rest of the afternoon. The anvils spread
towards the SE but storm motion was very slow propagation towards the
north-northeast. Storm tops didn't reach very high either.

At about 3pm we decided to go after the Katoomba storm. But as we moved NW
towards the mountains it was aparent this was not going to come off the
hills. We saw some nice lightning, heard thunder and saw heavy rain areas,
but there was little in the way of base features. The northern edge looked
good for a while but then even that became featureless.

We moved to another location around Mulgoa to see what was happening to the
southern stuff but it looked weakish and was hardly any further north than
2 hours previous. 

So we headed home. Chase distance about 100km. 

The southerly buster arrived here at 8pm with 20-30knot gusts and showers
in the vicinity (and some lightning). It's nice to get some cooler air
after the horrible 39 C we got today.

Michael


*==========================================================*
 Michael Bath  Oakhurst, Sydney   mbath at ozemail.com.au
                 Australian Severe Weather
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: When do school holidays finish - Jimmy
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:06:17 +1100
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Hi Jimmy, can you tell me when the school holidays finish so I can prepare
the storm chasing gear for the storms that will no doubt arrive after you go
back.

Seriously, and I am sure Jimmy would agree this is one dud storm season,
this evenings effort to be honest was pathetic, after a few token rumbles
the situation has rapidly developed into a light rain episode. I did not
even bother switching the PC off.

Next weekend now looks like the earliest for storm activity around Sydney -
Illawarra again.


Michael Thompson
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 04:27:38 -0800 (PST)
From: David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Southern Tablelands storm chase 19/1
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Hi everyone,

Just back from a fairly long days chasing. No supercells, but
intercepted two fairly decent storms nonetheless.

Full chase report will be passed onto Michael B or Jimmy. Target area
was a rough triangle: Canberra-Braidwood-Michelago (between Canberra
and Cooma) - this was based on the lifted index, and strength of the
jet stream further south and consolidated by the bureau forecast.
Although I'm back at work, I managed to find something to do in our
labs head office in Canberra and this kepy me busy for about an hour. 

At about 2pm headed off. A glance around revealed plenty of
half-hearted towers going up all over the place. We (Myself + My
friend David: co-worker whose brick garage was demolished and house
badly damaged by the 1991 supercell at Turramurra) went to the
national library there to check out satpics (to see what I was missing
out on in Sydney), model data and to see if any were any severe
advices out. A storm had got going by this time over Canberra - it
dropped a few nice CGs but was pretty high based. Had planned to meet
Patrick in Canberra, but I thought I'd be fair and give him a chance
to see a good storm so I got out!

Headed off to Queanbeyan and from there took the road to Captains
flat. As Michael T has said this is fantastic chase country. However
it was good old decision time: Storm to the south and storm to the
north. The south one looked to be really firing by this stage, the
north one was high based - wouldn't have given it a second glance in a
decent in Sydney season. But this is no ordinary season and I was
desperate - also there was only about 20km of decent road left to
Captains flat. I figured the storm was further than that so decided on
the north option.

This proved to be a fortunate move. The closer we got to this storm
the better it looked. It was still high based but developed a few nice
lowerings and boy was it active in the CG dept. Being on the south
side of it, contrast was poor though. When we got into it, the rain
was extremely heavy for a short period - flash flooding was observed
in Bungendore itself (No hail Jimmy). 

Anyway from there all the way to Marulan, watched weak cells develop,
put out a few Cgs then die. However driving along I noticed plenty of
scud racing south overhead - making sure it wasn't due to us speeding
north we pulled over. Sure enough a cell was getting its act together
right behing us - it didn't want to do it on the flat open country
between Goulburn and Tarago but decided to while we were on the
freeway in the forested southern tablelands. Managed to get to Colo
Vale and found nice hill with a good vies to the south.
This storm made the day worthwhile, watched, photographed and videod a
low updraft base develop, spectacular shelf cloud and scud aplenty.
This storm took on that 'severe appearance' in the area west of
Berrima. So much so that we decided to leave it alone with the gust
front overhead. Took off north to Sydney and watched the storm follow
us. It still looked ok just outside of Cambelltown but decided to call
it a day.

Well thats double my monthly storm quota (1 in Nov, 1 in Dec now 2 in
January) so I'll have to wait until March. All in all a fun days
chasing.


David

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