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001 Bob Baillie [spoton at fastinternet.net.au]       Weather Info Site
002 Ira [jra at upnaway.com]                          Report & first tornado pic is up!!
003 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Article in the paper
004 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Report & first tornado pic is up!!
005 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Report & first tornado pic is up!!
006 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Forward of Email received from Severe Storm Manager Darwin B
007 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Article in the paper
008 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Inaugural Meeting of an Assoc. for people interested in
009 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          Interesting developments on the models
010 Andrew Puddifer [andypudd at backmeup.net.au]     Hi everybody!
011 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  ASSC Meeting #1
012 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Apology
013 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Reminder of Weather Meeting
014 Andrew Puddifer [andypudd at backmeup.net.au]     Evening.
015 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Evening.

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Hi Fellow Weather Watchers,
Here's a site or two worth visiting in respect to weather. Enjoy
Bob Baillie

http://globe.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/map.cgi?e=atmax&y=1998&m=11&d=30&X=145&Y=-16&Z=16&p=R&sz=1&t=&k=&r=&l=en&b=v&s=&a=z&rg=n&

http://globe.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/map.cgi?y=1998&m=11&d=30&X=145&Y=-16&Z=16&sz=1&t=&k=&r=&l=en&b=g&s=&rg=n&elnino=1&uD=1&p=R

http://rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov/rsd/movies/mitch19981026.qt
http://rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov/
http://rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov/goes/

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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 01:05:51 +0800
From: Ira [jra at upnaway.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Report & first tornado pic is up!!
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Report for my chase on saturday is up, dorwerin tornado. Its at
http://members.xoom.com/wastorms/dorwerin.html

I have some pictures back so to see the first picture of the tornado go
to my main page at http://www.upnaway.com/~jra/weather.html


                             Ira Fehlberg

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Article in the paper, Current Obs & Darwin trip!
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 06:46:08 +1100
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Where do you live?

You may be able to get a lift home if you ask someone locally???

Jimmy Deguara
-----Original Message-----
>From: Matt Smith 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 10:23 PM
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Article in the paper, Current Obs & Darwin trip!
>
>
>ARG i had to read that email twice!!!
>expecting a low to develop with further development in the darwin area,next
>week going off.. WOOHOOO!!!!
>Ok with the meeting its still a may/maynot attend thing for me, i finish
>work at 6, and my car isnt 100% so id have to take public transport
>everywhere..but put me down on the list at the door, if i make it i make
>it, if i dont i dont..hopefully the car will be fixed..whatever the problem
>is..but ill do my best to make it..
>OH and if i DONT make it, ring 97474062 after the meeting..(no late than
>10.30), then we can talk about where we can meet etc.
>talk to you soon!
>Matt

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:16:38 +1100
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Congratulations and well done Ira. Good to see an Australian version of an
elephant trunk.

Jimmy Deguara
-----Original Message-----
>From: Ira 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 4:12 AM
>Subject: aussie-weather: Report & first tornado pic is up!!
>
>
>Report for my chase on saturday is up, dorwerin tornado. Its at
>http://members.xoom.com/wastorms/dorwerin.html
>
>I have some pictures back so to see the first picture of the tornado go
>to my main page at http://www.upnaway.com/~jra/weather.html
>
>
>                             Ira Fehlberg

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From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Morning everyone!

1stly :- There is hail in Darwin, and its quite common. I have been talking
to The severe Storm Manager & the Cyclone Expert in the darwin BOM and they
both say that hail is a frequency (although not as frequent as Colder
latitudes.) Also Tornadoes have been spotted on the Hector storm and guess
what! The first week in dec is the best time to see the hector storm!!
woohoo!!

2nd. Hi to Bob Bailie! I have been to Atherton, and actually experienced a
severe storm there 2 years ago. For Bobs info it was between Atherton & the
dam (forgot its name) to the east of Atherton. It had hail, strong - severe
squllay winds, and extremely heavy rain. I got stuck in a tourist thingy at
the dam, with a whole heap of Japenses Tourists, while CG lightning hit
very requently around us! Needless to say they were very frightened & I was
psyched!

3rd:- Matt Smith - you can always stay in Town with me on the Thursday
night. I have a room at the Southern Cross Towers with 2 beds in
it.......?? Just a thought.

Speak to you all soon,.

Paul

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From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Heres the copy of the email received. Note its contents.

Paul,

In reply to your query:

a. The Darwin region is probably the best location to 'storm-chase' in the
Northern Territory, with an average of over 80 thunderstorm days per year.
December is the month with the highest number of thunder days (an average
of 16 in Darwin) and early in the month is a particularly good time, before
the onset of the monsoon. The 'Hector' storm complex occurs regularly over
Bathurst and Melville Islands to the north and may be observed at a
distance from Darwin - however, an aircraft would be required for a close
view. The network of roads in the rural areas surrounding Darwin would
enable your team to get close to storms within about 60 km of Darwin.

Thunderstorms occur much less frequently in inland parts of the Territory
and might be more difficult to chase due to the lack of roads.

b. Your team is most welcome to visit the severe weather section in the
Darwin Bureau of Meteorology office. We can provide a guided tour of the
office with some advance warning of your visit (depending upon
weather-related operational demands). Day-to-day advice on the likelihood
of storms in various locations could be provided by the duty forecasters.

c. Severe storms are infrequent in the Northern Territory - the severe
weather section receives around 20 confirmed reports each year (much less
than in NSW due to low population density). The severe phenomena reported
are severe wind gusts (>48 knots or 90 km/h), large hail and flash floods.
About one report per year mentions tornadoes or features associated with
rotating storms.

In the Darwin area, severe wind gusts are primarily associated with squall
lines moving from east to west and also with 'pulse updraft storms'. As
squall lines are long-lived, meteorologists can assess the risk of severe
wind gusts in a particular event and may issue a severe storm warning for
Darwin and surrounding areas. Pulse updraft storms are isolated, localised
and difficult to forecast.
It is probable that you will observe one or two squall lines in the Darwin
area during your visit, but it is unlikely that you will observe a severe
storm at close range.

If you have access to the internet, try the following sites for some basic
information about severe thunderstorms in the NT:

http://ethos.ho.bom.gov.au/spawspo/thunder/allstorm.html
http://www.nt.bom.gov.au/ntregion/sevwx/storms/sts.html
http://www.nt.bom.gov.au/ntregion/sevwx/storms/stsdir_a2.html

Our staff can provide more information when you visit the office. Please
let me know when you arrive.

Regards, Ian Shepherd.


At 12:39 23/11/98 +1000, you wrote:
>
>
>Good Afternoon / Morning Sir.
>
>My name is Paul Mossman from the NSW town of Taree. I am leading a storm
>chase to the NT / Darwin areas for 10 days starting the 4.12.98. I was
>wondering whether:
>
>a. Is it possible for soem information regarding the best place to chase
>storms.
>b. A guided tour of the Darwin BOM & severe storm section? (pretty please!!
>- only a Group of 4 guys)
>c. Types of severity to look out for in NT storms (seeing that the Group of
>us have never seen a NT Storm!!)
>ie. Funnels, hail, rotating wall cloud, mesocyclonic storms
etc...........)
>
>I appreciate your help, and will pay any fees (if applicable).
>
>Regards, Paul Mossman.
>
>

Ian Shepherd,
Senior Meteorologist, Severe Weather Section
Northern Territory Regional Office
Bureau of Meteorology, PO Box 40050, Casuarina, N.T. 0811
Ph (08) 8920 3821  Fax (08) 8920 3840

e-mail I.Shepherd at bom.gov.au

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Article in the paper
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:46:01 +1100 (EST)
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> 
> Hi Ben,
> I read your message with interest. SOI values, which are based on the 
> Tahiti-Darwin pressure difference are usually monthly averages and 
> would, I guess, vary from week to week and day to day. Does the BOM 
> spokesperson mean a very recent increase in SOI or a monthly change? If 
> it's recent (and the gist of the article leads me to believe so from the 
> pre-damage control tenor) does this mean they think a full-blown La Nina 
> is imminent (as most US models indicate)?
> Yours,
> Kevin from Wycheproof.
The SOI's been fairly stable in the +10-15 range for about three 
months now. If anything the 30-day running mean has been dropping a 
little over the last couple of weeks - it peaked around +17, now around
+13 (I wouldn't read anything into such a small shift).

(SOI values updated daily are on the Queensland DNR site - http://
www.dnr.qld.gov.au/longpdk/).

The sea-surface temperatures seem to have fallen somewhat in recent 
weeks, and as you say, most models are predicting a La Nina of some
kind, although they disagree somewhat on timing, duration and 
intensity, as you'd expect. No-one that I'm aware of is going for a 
very strong La Nina (1973-74 proportions).

Interesting, as an aside, that in the three largest La Ninas in the 
last 30 years (1973-74, 1975-76, 1988-89) the SOI peaked in spring
in all three cases (November in 1973 and 1988, September in 1975),
but the major rainfall consequences in Australia weren't felt for 
somewhat longer (although 1973 had been a wet year anyway, the real
floods came in January 1974, while 1988-89 didn't really get going
properly until autumn 1989).

Blair Trewin

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	 Australian Severe Weather.
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Howdy all. Please see attached a now formal agenda for Tomorrows meeting.
Please advise any other issues that you wish to be raised. For interstaters
please send an aplology - this is required for determination of No.s and
also proxies for the next meetings.

(See attached file: Agenda for Storm Chasers Meeting.doc)

(PS Jacob - soz for the attachment.)

Paul Mossman.

Attachment Converted: "C:\COMM\EUDORA\Attach\Agenda for Storm Chasers Meeting.doc"

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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: aussie-weather: Interesting developments on the models
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 02:03:11 GMT
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The latest (12z) run of the US model in AVN form comes in line with
the GASP and NOGAPS in picking up cyclonic development off the WA
coast late in the week. The 1998120100z MRF ignored it, apart from
showing a bullseye of moisture and tottots over the Pilbara, but the
latest run of the AVN, NOGAPS and GASP all show varying developments,
from a full scale cyclone by Friday off the NW coast to a really juicy
looking west coast trough/low system. 

The latest runs still (mostly) bring extraordinarily cold air over
Tassie on Fri/Sat - thicknesses <530!


-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/

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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 16:01:05 +1100
From: Andrew Puddifer [andypudd at backmeup.net.au]
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 Hi there,

 Anyone thinking of going storm chasing tomorrow in the Sydney metro
area? I'm new to this and I wouldn't mind tagging along. What do people
think about the likelihood of storms tomorrow? You can reach me on 0411
262 670 almost any time.

 Regards, Andrew.

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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 19:06:11 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Attendees are reminded of the first meeting for the creation of the
Australian Society of Storm Chasers (name to be confirmed) at the
following location and time.

Locn: 7/255 Elizabeth St. (between Bathurst & Liverpool Streets)
Sydney.
Time: 18:30 AEST (07:30 UTC) Thursday, December 3, 1998

On arrival at the building, the front doors will open automatically
until 19:00 but the lift will not allow access after 18:00. Ask the
security guard to admit you to L7. He will have a list of attendees.
If you have not been noted by Paul Mossman or myself, Email me by
10:00 Thursday. If the front desk is unattended, ring me on 02 9298
5891 and I will come down and give you access.

On arrival at the 7th floor, the conference room is through the left
glass door visible from the lift lobby, the code for entry will be
123E for this evening only.

Access from Town Hall station is directly east up Bathurst Street
until you reach Elizabeth Street then turn right for 70m past the
Telstra building on the corner of Bathurst and Elizabeth Streets. It
takes about 5 minutes.

Access from Museum station is almost direct from the northern side.
Simply cross Elizabeth Street at the lights or use the pedestrian
subway. If you keep left on exiting the station, this will bring you
up near the Telstra building noted above.

Parking can be found on the street after 18:00 for those keen on
hunting. Otherwise State Super parking is 5 minutes away at the back
of 175 Liverpool St (AMEX) and other parking on top of the railway as
it emerges further down Elizabeth Streets.

I have noted only one person interested in a phone hookup to the
meeting. Could that person give me their phone number and I will ring
them from the meeting room.

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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ASSC, (or whatever it gets called),
Unfortunately, due to distance and prior commitments I will be unable to 
attend the inaugural meeting.
Best to everyone and I'm a definite (long-distance) starter!
Yours,
Kevin from Wycheproof.

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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 19:35:47 +1100
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,

This is a quick reminder about the Australian Weekly Weather Meeting. 
It is held in #Weather, at 9pm EDT, 8pm EST, 6pm WST.

If you have some time, it would be great if you could attend!  

If you haven't already tried it you can download the IRC client, mIRC at
www.mirc.co.uk and use one of the undernet servers and then type /join
#weather

Or you can chat via the web at http://www.iinet.net.au/~jacob/chat.html

Hope to see you there!
Anthony

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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 21:31:27 +1100
From: Andrew Puddifer [andypudd at backmeup.net.au]
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  Hi David,

 Well, if anyone is chasing tomorrow or Friday, I'd be really
interested. Don't think I'll go to the meeting, just curious about this
whole thing at the moment. I'm based in Balmain, all you guys seem to be
out west. I can be anywhere in Sydney in about 45 mins anyway.

  Regards, Andrew

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Evening.
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 22:59:10 +1100
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You must have a helicopter to get out here in that time. Just kidding. I
understand what you are saying. We may be able to get something going during
the afternoon and then head straight to the meeting. Ring me
9628 2222 at school and indicate for the message to be passed on urgently
and we can meet directly after school.

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Jimmy Deguara from Schofields
e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
-----Original Message-----
>From: Andrew Puddifer 
>To: Weather 
>Date: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 9:33 PM
>Subject: aussie-weather: Evening.
>
>
>  Hi David,
>
> Well, if anyone is chasing tomorrow or Friday, I'd be really
>interested. Don't think I'll go to the meeting, just curious about this
>whole thing at the moment. I'm based in Balmain, all you guys seem to be
>out west. I can be anywhere in Sydney in about 45 mins anyway.
>
>  Regards, Andrew