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X-Sender: disarm at mail.braenet.com.au Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:05:01 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt SmithSubject: Re: aussie-weather: direct lightning strike at footy Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com heya yeah i saw that as well!!! amazing hey... just watching the players hold there heads after the flash (coving there ears i guesS) and falling to the ground.. and the stupid reporters who made it onto the field to interview them before paramedics arrived.. anyway.. :) Matt from syd. >Hi all > >I just saw sensational footage of a direct lightning stirke at a soccer >match in Johannesburg in South Africa. Well actually I didn't see the bolt, >but there was a bright flash and then 6-9 players collapsed onto the ground >holding their heads. The thunder of course was BOOMING -- so #$# loud! >Scarey really. >Those players went to hospital but no serious injuries occurred. > >I saw it on Fox Sports News > >James from bris >----------------------------------------------------------------- >James Chambers >jamestorm at ozemail.com.au >The Brisbane and SE Qld Storm Site >http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aussie-weather: Storm at Shellharbour Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:12:50 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A brief chase summary. Left work at 4.30pm and rode pushbike home. View northwards indicated a rapidly decaying storm, the stuff that affected Sydney earlier. East was pretty much clear. West was mostly old anvil , but there was one promising little cell starting to grow under the anvil shield. I guessed perhaps in Bowral area. Southwards was very poor with blue skies and only moderate Cu growth, exception was a nice cell offshore, radar indicated this was off Batemans Bay. With no car I rode pushbike to a favourite viewing area near Lake Illawarra at Mt Warrigal, here there is a park with a jetty that gives great views to all directions except east. By now it was after 5.30pm. Cell developed quite quickly, but as it was growing up into old anvil it was very hard to see structure. Rain curtain started moving over escarpment about 5.45pm. Cell was expanding on northern edge quite well, aided by some outflow. Very dark updraft base overhead about 5.50pm. Noticed white streak on lake about 1 km away. Knew it was heavy rain and wind. Luckilly my wife had turned up by now and I beat a hasty retreat, left camera with wife to take home in car and madly rode pushbike home, large rain overtook me less than 5 mins after noticing the ' streak '. Not exactly a downburst but winds were 30-40knots and rainfall suddenly intensified. Transferred to car and drove northwards to Windang Beach in an effort to get out of rain area. Some small hail fell at Lake Illawarra South around 6pm. Rain soon overtook me at Windang, so I headed north to Port Kembla beach, from here I could watch as storm moved out over the ocean. The rainfall did not get much further north than the small town of Primbee. Wollongong itself scored NIL. Although storm was developing on northern flank it was as a unit moving eastwards, therefore development did not get to Wollongong. The storm died very rapidly once over the ocean. Winds were still outflowing from anvil left behind at 6.45pm, although by now only a cool west breeze. Michael Thompson http://thunder.simplenet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: disarm at mail.braenet.com.au Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 03:36:44 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt Smith Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Weak Storms ( 11.50pm ) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com YOU PREDICTED THIS SPOT ON!!! WELL DONE!!! :) lightning and rain, and thinder, constant rain At the moment, more lightnenging at 3.30am today the nwhat i saw al day yesterday over sydney, rain slowly increaseing, 6 seconds from lughtning to thunder great getting woken up by a storm!!! Matt from sydney man im outta here, to much lightning... cya's!!!: ) PS, no warnings as yet are out....(3.30am) >Radar indicates a very weak, but what I would call a rough line of storms >from just south of Parkes to off Moruya Heads. My bet that this is the front >as there is virtually nothing behind it. May produce a rumble in the >Illawarra - Sydney in 3-4 hours time. > >But then again I have been know to be wrong. > >Michael Thompson >http://thunder.simplenet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 05:23:49 +1100 (EST) From: Paul Graham To: Aussie Weather Subject: aussie-weather: Latest Sydney WX Reply-Receipt: pgraham1 at extro.ucc.su.oz.au Reply-Read: pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello everyone, Early this morning another line of thunderstorms moved through the Sydney region. I observed lightning at 3am at which time it started raining here in N. Ryde. Not much wind though - just very heavy rain - and for a time quite a bit of lightning - flashes every few seconds for some time - most intense around 3:10am here. By 3:40am it had pretty much finished. Currently 5:20am and lightning is still observable from here in Sydney (not sure where though). Pressure is 998 Hpa and falling, still quite warm - I guess the front hasn't moved through yet - but it must be close now... - Paul G. ---------------------------- Paul Graham m3052695 at hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au ---------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 05:47:52 +1100 (EST) From: Paul Graham To: Aussie Weather Subject: aussie-weather: Weather Update... Reply-Receipt: pgraham1 at extro.ucc.su.oz.au Reply-Read: pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Change must have just moved through Sydney (about 5:30am): barometer has edged up slightly too. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- CODE STATION CURRENT OBS [within last hour] Temp Dew Pt Wind Press Rain deg C deg C dir spd hPa since 9am Kn mm --------------------------------------------------------------------------- SYHB WEDDING CAKE 16.2 320 010 OBSH OBSERVATORY HILL 15.4 14.4 000 1003 8 YSSY SYDNEY AIRPORT 15.7 14.4 290 013 1002 11 CBRC CANTERBURY RACECOURSE 15.3 13.9 300 008 HOM HOMEBUSH 15.5 13.0 330 011 12 YSBK BANKSTOWN AIRPORT 15.2 13.8 290 008 1003 5 HPEC HORSLEY PARK 14.3 13.5 320 008 9 YSRI RICHMOND AIRPORT 14.5 13.3 360 005 1003 9 PENR PENRITH LAKES 15.3 13.0 360 007 1 YSBC BADGERY'S CREEK 14.2 14.4 330 007 1003 7 YSCN CAMDEN 14.1 14.0 340 005 1003 6 MTBO MT. BOYCE 9.3 6.7 280 017 9 YBTH BATHURST 10.1 10.1 330 007 1005 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- AREA20 15:07 UTC, 26/10/1998 AMEND AREA FORECAST 261700 TO 270500 AREA 20 OVERVIEW: SURFACE TROUGH NEAR SYDNEY/DUBBU ABOUT 16Z, EXPECTED TAREE/SCONE/NARABRI 22Z AND GRAFTON/GLEN INNES/GOONDIWINDI BY 04Z. RAIN AREAS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS AHEAD OF TROUGH. ISOLATED SHOWERS BEHIND TROUGH. TENDING SCATTERED SEA/COAST IN SOUTH. AREAS OF BROKEN LOW CLOUD WITH RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS AHEAD OF TROUGH. BROKEN LOW CLOUD IN SHOWERS SEA/COAST BEHIND TROUGH. ---------------------------- Paul Graham m3052695 at hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au ---------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Sykes" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aussie-weather: Cold Outbreak in Melbourne, one coldest ever Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:20:33 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The weather in Melbourne this morning is amazing, the temp is only 5 C, with a fresh south westerly, a pool of very cold air, evident on the latest sat pics is just south of Melbourne and will move over the city during the next 6 hours. Reports of snow to very low levels, 500m have been reported throughtout the south of the state, the BOM on the radio said that this is one of the coldest ever cold outbreaks for this time of year. A farmers and grazers warning has been issued Farmers and Graziers WarningI ssued at 0502 on Tuesday the 27th of October 1998 Farmers and Graziers in Gippsland are advised that today and tonight will be exceptionally cold for this time of year with widespread shower activity and fresh gusty southwesterly winds. This somes it up pretty well, 'exceptionally cold for this time of year' Melbourne's forecast for today MelbourneTuesday Showers with local hail and thunder and snowfalls on the nearby ranges. Very cold fresh and gusty southwesterly wind. Max 13 The BOM said it is unlikely to get above single figures for much of the day. Nick freezing in Melbourne, 30 one day, 5 the next then 30 a couple of days later, ahh Melbourne in Spring -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:12:25 +1000 From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" To: Aussie Weather Net Subject: aussie-weather: Storms all over Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Bill from Proserpine, NQ Notice from the mail reports of action aplenty. Same here (as many would have noticed from the sat pics), with a bit more to come this evening, then clearing probably for tomorrow. Active storm, but not severe, last night, at 0150 Qld Eastern time (28/10/98). Lasted over an hour in Proserpine - rain from 25 to 70 mm in its path. Still on the Northern horizon this morning drenching Bowen no doubt. Enjoy your chat. Bill -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne current Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:32:32 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Temperatures for Melbourne Bureau of Meteorology, MelbourneIssued at 0756 on 27/10/1998 ---------------------------------------------------- CODE STATION CURRENT TEMPERATURE [within last hour] ---------------------------------------------------- YMML MELBOURNE AP 5.0 MELB MELBOURNE CITY 6.3 DUNN MT DANDENONG 1.5 YMMB MOORABBIN 6.6 FRAN FRANKSTON 7.6 CERB CERBERUS 4.9 YLVT LAVERTON 3.9 GROV GEELONG AP 5.3 They are forecasting a 40% chance of thunderstorms & hail between 11am & 6pm - should make for an interesting day. Jane Melbourne -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "McDonald" To: Subject: aussie-weather: melbourne weather Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:21:39 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've heard reports of hail and snow at Emerald this morning but the sky in the NE suburbs is just patchy small Cu and the sun has been out for a while. Hopefully gets colder as the day goes on. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blair Trewin Subject: aussie-weather: Low historical max temps in Melbourne To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:50:19 +1100 (EST) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com In anticipation of events during today, the lowest max temps on record in Melbourne on or after 27 October are: 9.0 29 October 1922 10.4 12 December 1867 11.0 4 November 1913 11.1 8 November 1893 11.5 26 December 1924 Interesting that two of the five are in December (one as late as Boxing Day), and none since 1924. Note that under current practice the maximum temperature includes anything recorded up until 0900 the following morning (which often stuffs up really low maxima in persistent-rain situations in summer, less so in cold outbreaks). Although details are a bit fuzzy this does not appear to have been the case in 1924 and before, so these records are tougher to break than they should be. Current temp in Melbourne is 9.6. Dry so far but there's quite a lot of activity at the south end of the bay. LAPS suggests a thickness of around 527 in Melbourne at 0000 UTC (1100 EDT). Could also be some impressive late season frosts tonight if the high ridges in quickly enough. As others have posted, radio reports of snow to around the 400-metre level in the Ballarat area, South Gippsland and the Dandenongs. Blair Trewin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au X-Lotus-Fromdomain: NSW_AG To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:05:32 +1000 Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne current Content-Disposition: inline Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Howdy all! Little rain last night, no lightning or thunder. Squally winds up to 50 km/h. However, looking to the west, 3 or 4 cells starting to develop W / SW of Taree, front expected about 22z (whatever time that is in DST.....wouldnt have a clue)...but looks promising.... Paul. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "McDonald" To: Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:29:46 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It's Andrew from melbourne (Greensborough), Can any melbournians please give me a quick report of the weather in their general area cause i feel like going for a drive to see if i can find anything interesting. Some larger Cu's around now so hopefully i can drive myself into a few hail showers. Thanks. Reports of snow from Noojee in the 9 am weather bulletin. (Noojee is not very high up.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:03:37 +1100 (EST) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > It's Andrew from melbourne (Greensborough), > > Can any melbournians please give me a quick report of the weather in their > general area cause i feel like going for a drive to see if i can find > anything interesting. Some larger Cu's around now so hopefully i can drive > myself into a few hail showers. There's quite a pocket on the radar in the Werribee area. So far things seem to be staying to the south. > Thanks. > > Reports of snow from Noojee in the 9 am weather bulletin. (Noojee is not > very high up.) 243 metres, to be precise. Very impressive. Blair Trewin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "McDonald" To: Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:25:25 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I decided to not go anywhere but i have to pick up my sistwer this afternoon so i might go a bit early and check things out. I can see a few nice anvils from storms to the W and NW I guess up near Ballarat somewhere but can't see very far to the SW because of cloud cover. Temp. Melbourne dropped 4 degrees before when a squall crossed the city from 11 down to 7 but it now back up to 10 degrees. They're still forcasting hail,etc so here's hoping. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "McDonald" To: Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne Warning Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:28:55 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE Thunderstorm Warning Issued at 1056 on Tuesday the 27th of October 1998 forTuesday late morning and the afternoon. Isolated thunderstorms are expected over the metropolitan area at first but the risk will ease later today. There you go. I heard a report of a hailstorm hitting somewhere down the bay so I thought I'd better check and hey presto! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Originating-Ip: [203.55.196.234] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Vic weather Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:50:04 PST Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, Kevin in Wycheproof here. Nothing happening here other than its cold! (~12 C). No showers or hail though. 5/8 Cu. (12.50 p.m.) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au X-Lotus-Fromdomain: NSW_AG To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:06:41 +1000 Subject: aussie-weather: Severe Thunderstrom advice Content-Disposition: inline Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Howdy all. Severe thunderstorm advice has been issued for areas south of Gloucester and Upper Hunter (Newcastle strikes it lucky again!!). The cool change has hit here, with no activity yet. Wind gusting up to 40 km/h at the moment. Looking ominus to west. can see the tops of the cells pushing towards Hunter. Look great! What else happening around the traps?? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: bayns at nornet.nor.com.au Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:11:49 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: steve baynham Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com a friend and i had a very close call once! we were surfing at wooli, near grafton, and there was a huge electrical storm right above us. lightning all around us. i was shit scared but wanted to stay in the water and watch. a time i will never forget. steve from gold coast -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Vic weather Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:13:27 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Kevin in Wycheproof here. >Nothing happening here other than its cold! (~12 C). >No showers or hail though. >5/8 Cu. (12.50 p.m.) > Kevin, for those of us who don't know (including Melburnians) - which part of Victoria are you in?? 3/8 Cb (with hail judging by the precip trails, but they're from the anvil) to the NNW of the CBD - but seems to be clearing to the west at the moment. More activity to the south Forecast is still: between 12.30 & 5.30pm 40% hail showers. They keep changing the percentage & time frame, so I think I'll just wait & see rather than rushing off up the hill with the camera. 10.0 at the airport, 8.2in Abbotsford (just NE of the CBD) in a shower, 3.8 on Mt Dandenong. Jane Melbourne -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au X-Lotus-Fromdomain: NSW_AG To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:16:32 +1000 Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Severe Thunderstrom advice Content-Disposition: inline Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Update. Cool change has not hit!! Wind is a warm one from NW gusting now to about 60 - 70 km/h (its really blowing...) could be pre-frontal, although it appears to be a small cell (its raining). Looking SW Cu for all to see! Crsooing my fingers yet again......... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: hdewit at postoffice.sa.bom.gov.au Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:59:13 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Hank de Wit Subject: aussie-weather: International TEMP messages from Weipa (94170) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For those receiveing Bureau Temp data ... >Subject: International TEMP messages from Weipa (94170) > >An Autosonde has now been installed at Weipa and will >commence providing operational data from the 2315Z sounding >today (26-10-98). > >Therefore the TEMP message transmitted from Weipa will be in >full international format from that time and contain standard >and significant level wind data. As the international TEMP >does not include shears, a PPBB containing the fixed levels >required to calculate shears will be transmitted along with >the TEMP messages. > >Upper air soundings will now only be performed at 23 and 11Z, >although special flights at other times may be performed on >request by the Region. > >Regards, Hank de Wit Regional Computer Manager South Australia H.deWit at BoM.gov.au ph: 08 8366 2674 http://www.sa.bom.gov.au/~hdewit (Internal access only) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "McDonald" To: Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:13:59 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Two separate cells just passed. One to the west and one just to the east. I caught the edge of that one with some heavyish rain and wind up to about 40km/h. Back of the anvil has mammatus and everything is really steamy because the sun is now out. More down south i think. I'm off to take some photo's. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:22:50 +1100 From: david.croan at agal.gov.au (David Croan) Subject: aussie-weather: 1350 severe thunderstorm advice To: aussie-weather at world.std.com, Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 1350 on Tuesday the 27th of October 1998 This advice affects people in the following weather districts: Northern Rivers and Mid-North Coast north of Taree Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area from 2:00pm this afternoon until 8:00pm this evening. Some of these storms are expected to be severe, bringing large hailstones and destructive winds and very heavy rainfall. The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should: * put vehicles under cover * move indoors away from windows During and after storms people should: * take extreme care when driving * beware of fallen trees and power lines If your house is damaged contact your local State Emergency Service unit, listed under "S" in the White Pages, for emergency assistance. Don't use the telephone during storms. TV CRAWL: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current for Mid-North Coast and Northern Rivers of NSW. NOT FOR BROADCAST: This advice message is valid until 8pm. The Bureau and SES would appreciate it being broadcast regularly until this time. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Originating-Ip: [203.37.41.20] From: "Patrick Tobin" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aussie-weather: Canberra soft hail/sleet Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:26:48 PST Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Very active area of Cu/Cb from NW to ESE of Canberra around 230z. Very impressive outflow from a cell over the Brindabellas (to the WSW) which meant that the top of some hills (around 1400m elev) adjacent to the cell were visible but the bases of the hills (around 800m) were obscured by the precipitation ourflow of most likely hail but could also have been snow. As the cell drifted eastward it outflow survived the decent from the ranges and provided a good 7-8min of soft hail and sleet in the suburb of Deakin (about 2km south of Parliament House elev around 600m). I managed to go to nearby Red Hill (750m) for the last of the shower but the sleet remained sleet rather than turn to snow. At 320z we have just had another soft hail shower with what looked very suspiciously like snow flakes embedded in the breeze.... (I'm not totally convinced it was snow but there will no doubt be some anecdotal claims..). Unforunately, I don't have a thermometer at my work location so fhe Canberra Airport observations (about 10km to the east will have to suffice). Patrick *YSCB 03:14 UTC, 27/10/1998 TTF SPECI YSCB 0301Z 23023KT 9999 VCSH FEW020 BKN040 09/M02 Q1007 RMK RF00.0/000.2 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au X-Lotus-Fromdomain: NSW_AG To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:09:55 +1000 Subject: aussie-weather: Current Obs. Content-Disposition: inline Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Taree: Temp 26c Wind swirling W/NW/SW at about 25 - 30knots - Warm though. plenty of Cu Calvus around..... NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH Severe thunderstorm advice issued to us til 8pm tonight (over radio)...............I will update you. If anyone has internet avail, can they check that thats true please!! Paul from Taree. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: disarm at braenet.com.au X-Sender: disarm at braenet.com.au (Unverified) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:11:09 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aussie-weather: sydney Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com could see some large cu about an hour ago south west of sydney.. not sure what has happened since.. at the moment just alot of cloud around 5/8, tad cold, but nothing really happening here apart from early morning showers with the cold front passing through. matt oh and forgive my email at around 3 last night.. i was dead tired.. i just re-read it and laughed my head off.. hope you all got a laugh to :P -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Originating-Ip: [203.55.196.234] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Vic weather Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:28:30 PST Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane et al, Wycheproof is the gateway to the Mallee. Draw a straight line between Melbourne and Mildura, and Wycheproof is halfway. Still nothing happening here. In fact it's warmed up since lunchtime - must be nearly 17 C. Still 5/8 Cu. Light to mod. SWly. The MRF's look like nothing but blue skies and warm weather here until about the end of the first week of November! Bummer! Kevin Phyland ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dpn" To: Subject: aussie-weather: Dandenongs Snow Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:36:32 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Drove up to Olinda near Mt Dandenong at 11.00am. short 20 minute drive from here. It was sleeting when i arrived. There was one loud clap of thunder. a few minutes later the sleet turned to Snow. It continued for 30to 40 minutes and was quite heavy for a while. the snow flakes were also quite large at one stage with some about the size of a ten cent piece. The Snow mostly melted as it hit the ground although it briefly settled on the roof of cars in the street. Are you jealous Michael Thompson. Just had a brief hail shower here in Kilsyth. Temp has dropped back to 10.4c. 6 /8 cloud cover large Cu and some Cb around. So still some heavy showers around. Bar 1014R. Dane Newman -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: jacob at iinet.net.au Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:32:07 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: aussie-weather: Cloudy in Perth, but no storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yesterday it looked like that we may have a chance to get a thunderstorm today with a deepening trough down the west coast and cloud coming down from the north. However most of the activity has been to the north of Perth with only some metro observing sites recording a trace or 0.2mm of rain overnight. The trough now has moved inland, currently in the city its 25.2C with a southerly blowing at 10km/h. Jacob -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: jacob at iinet.net.au Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:38:40 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: aussie-weather: IRC meeting times with Daylight Saving Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, With daylight saving now in force in most states, there will be new starting time changes for some states for our weekly IRC weather chat each Wednesday night, but for most states the meeting time will be the same. The meeting times for each state are: 9:00pm EDT - NSW, VIC, ACT, TAS 8:30pm CDT - SA 8:00pm EST - QLD 7:30pm CST - NT 6:00pm WST - WA 10am GMT So basicly, the states that don't go on daylight saving will start an hour earlier. It's stupid how we have 5 timezones during the summer, I think its about time each state gives the daylight saving powers to the federal government, either the whole nation should go on daylight saving, or no one should. I personally would love WA to go on daylight saving. If you haven't tried IRC yet on undernet #weather, you can either download an IRC client, such as mIRC at: http://www.mirc.co.uk/ or to make it easier you can chat via the web at: http://www.iinet.net.au/~jacob/chat.html Jacob -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au X-Lotus-Fromdomain: NSW_AG To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:44:26 +1000 Subject: aussie-weather: Storm By-pass capital of Australia. Content-Disposition: inline Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ladies & gentleman, the race is now on to find the storm bypass capital of Australia. In the lead at the Moment we have TAREE, the worlds most illforgotten storm city!! So Michael, you have lost your crown!! Sorry!! Paul :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aussie-weather: Cold air near Wollongong Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:35:56 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Signs that the cold air has just reached the Illawarra, Cu glaciating rapidly with snow virga, perhaps down to 800-1000m. Some more impressive cold cells to west, large one in Moss Vale / Goulburn area may be producing hail and I would not rule thunder out completely. Michael Thompson http://thunder.simplenet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Weak Storms ( 11.50pm ) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:38:09 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ironically it only produced rain here in Shellharbour. Michael Next brave prediction, snow in Katoomba tonight ( actually its quite likely ) >YOU PREDICTED THIS SPOT ON!!! WELL DONE!!! :) >lightning and rain, and thinder, constant rain At the moment, more >lightnenging at 3.30am today the nwhat i saw al day yesterday over sydney, >rain slowly increaseing, 6 seconds from lughtning to thunder >great getting woken up by a storm!!! >Matt from sydney > >man im outta here, to much lightning... >cya's!!!: ) PS, no warnings as yet are out....(3.30am) > >>Radar indicates a very weak, but what I would call a rough line of storms >>from just south of Parkes to off Moruya Heads. My bet that this is the front >>as there is virtually nothing behind it. May produce a rumble in the >>Illawarra - Sydney in 3-4 hours time. >> >>But then again I have been know to be wrong. >> >>Michael Thompson >>http://thunder.simplenet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paulmoss" To: Subject: aussie-weather: Aussie weather - Taree obs. Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:44:37 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The sw has kicked in here. Winds gusting up to 50 km/h from the wsw. Temp is 21.0 with a windchill factor of 22! Humidity is low, barometer 1010 and rising. Gale force winds rampaging through the place!! Is anyone else getting these winds? Paul................. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Dandenongs Snow Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:48:23 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The way things are looking here there is even the outside possibility of a hail shower here later, snow virga to south and overhead, perhaps to 1000m. Michael -----Original Message----- From: dpn To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tuesday, 27 October 1998 15:38 Subject: aussie-weather: Dandenongs Snow >Drove up to Olinda near Mt Dandenong at 11.00am. short 20 minute drive from >here. It was sleeting when i arrived. There was one loud clap of thunder. a >few minutes later the sleet turned to Snow. It continued for 30to 40 >minutes and was quite heavy for a while. the snow flakes were also quite >large at one stage with some about the size of a ten cent piece. The Snow >mostly melted as it hit the ground although it briefly settled on the roof >of cars in the street. Are you jealous Michael Thompson. Just had a brief >hail shower here in Kilsyth. Temp has dropped back to 10.4c. 6 /8 cloud >cover large Cu and some Cb around. So still some heavy showers around. Bar >1014R. Dane Newman -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm By-pass capital of Australia. Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:49:13 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yeah, we had a weak effort yesterday, but it does qualify as a thunder day. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tuesday, 27 October 1998 15:46 Subject: aussie-weather: Storm By-pass capital of Australia. > > >Ladies & gentleman, the race is now on to find the storm bypass capital of >Australia. In the lead at the Moment we have TAREE, the worlds most >illforgotten storm city!! > >So Michael, you have lost your crown!! Sorry!! > >Paul :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:22:12 +1100 From: Anthony Cornelius To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aussie-weather: Time Zones Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Paul, Z is quite easy, basically Z = UTC = GMT Z = Zulu time I *think* UTC = Universal Time Co-ordinate GMT = Gwenich Mean Time You are now in EDT (Eastern Daylight Time) which is 11hrs ahead of Z, EST (Eastern Standard Time) is 10hrs ahead of Z...so when you are in daylight saving, add 11hrs to the Z time, and when you're in normal time, add 10hrs to the Z time. Anthony Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote: > > Howdy all! Little rain last night, no lightning or thunder. Squally winds > up to 50 km/h. However, looking to the west, 3 or 4 cells starting to > develop W / SW of Taree, front expected about 22z (whatever time that is > in DST.....wouldnt have a clue)...but looks promising.... > > Paul. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:31:36 +1100 From: Anthony Cornelius To: Australian Weather Mailing List Subject: aussie-weather: Brisbane Wx Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Well - strong WNW winds wiped out all chances of t'storms today, crashing the DP from 22C to 6C, today's max temp was 33C and was quite blowy! But it didn't feel as hot as yesterday, and yesterday was 28C - I guess that just goes to show how much the moisture in the air matters to comfort! But I was very disappointed and almost frustrated that we had nothing - actually, the trough hasn't gone through yet, winds still WNW, it was 30C at 6pm - those were the Bris AP obs. The only good part about the wx today, was that a strong gust of wind that lasted for about 25secs at about 33kts blew over half the bins in the quadrangle and all the rubbish went everywhere :-) (BTW - we had 0.4mm overnight, just from some like drizzle) Anthony from Brisbane. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:44:45 +1100 From: Anthony Cornelius To: Australian Weather Mailing List Subject: aussie-weather: International Wx Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Has anyone been looking at Hurricane Mitch in the Gulf of Mexico? It's the strongest hurricane of their season, at 6Z it was at 17.4N and 84.5W - it's details are Cat 5, pressure of 906hPa, and sustained winds of 285km/h!!!! That would mean gusts would easily be over 300km/h. http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goesir.html And click on the "cloud swirl" on the globe, as well as select "animation" and you'll get a great image of Hurr. Mitch. Anthony -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:50:50 +1100 From: Anthony Cornelius To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: International Wx - Correction Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That should be "near the Gulf of Mexico"! Sorry all Anthony Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > Has anyone been looking at Hurricane Mitch in the Gulf of Mexico? It's > the strongest hurricane of their season, at 6Z it was at 17.4N and 84.5W > - it's details are Cat 5, pressure of 906hPa, and sustained winds of > 285km/h!!!! That would mean gusts would easily be over 300km/h. > > http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goesir.html > And click on the "cloud swirl" on the globe, as well as select > "animation" and you'll get a great image of Hurr. Mitch. > > Anthony -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: disarm at mail.braenet.com.au Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:53:22 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt Smith Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Dandenongs Snow Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com yeah looks like its hitting sydney, lots of cu about the place(mainly coastal and near the mountains), and looks like some cold cells out near the mountains, im going to take a look... Matt >The way things are looking here there is even the outside possibility of a >hail shower here later, snow virga to south and overhead, perhaps to 1000m. > >Michael > >-----Original Message----- >From: dpn >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Date: Tuesday, 27 October 1998 15:38 >Subject: aussie-weather: Dandenongs Snow > > >>Drove up to Olinda near Mt Dandenong at 11.00am. short 20 minute drive from >>here. It was sleeting when i arrived. There was one loud clap of thunder. a >>few minutes later the sleet turned to Snow. It continued for 30to 40 >>minutes and was quite heavy for a while. the snow flakes were also quite >>large at one stage with some about the size of a ten cent piece. The Snow >>mostly melted as it hit the ground although it briefly settled on the roof >>of cars in the street. Are you jealous Michael Thompson. Just had a brief >>hail shower here in Kilsyth. Temp has dropped back to 10.4c. 6 /8 cloud >>cover large Cu and some Cb around. So still some heavy showers around. Bar >>1014R. Dane Newman -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:00:24 +1100 (EST) From: Paul Graham To: Aussie Weather Subject: aussie-weather: Waterspouts off Sydney... Reply-Receipt: pgraham1 at extro.ucc.su.oz.au Reply-Read: pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, some very spectacular Cb clouds off the coast from Sydney this afternoon (with overshooting tops and wispy anvils). Watched from the bus on the way home from Uni. this afternoon hoping I'd get home in time to take a photo before sunset. Was also thinking about the possibility of waterspouts since the storms seemed particularly well structured and I was wishing I could go down to the coast for this very reason. Got home and only got 1 photo in before sunset (a bit disappointed but Michael Bath has some more I believe). On the ABC weather tonight, Mike Bailey reported that their have been some reports of waterspouts off the coast this afternoon - most likely associated with the line of storms I would think (since I didn't see any others earlier). Any reports from you Michael Thompson? They seemed to be down towards Wollongong... - Paul G. ---------------------------- Paul Graham m3052695 at hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au ---------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: disarm at braenet.com.au X-Sender: disarm at braenet.com.au (Unverified) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:16:35 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aussie-weather: sydney. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com large cu/cb clouds over sydney DO have lightning in them. i watched for an hour or so..beautiful cloud formations.. and now its almost dark i decided to come home.. but i did see at least 3 flashes of lightning amongst the clouds within 2 minutes, cold windy and getting dark so i came home.. out near the mountains started to get interesting as well..looked like something was happening out there, maybe jimmy or michael could shed some light on it! :) Matt in sydney -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:16:35 +1100 (EST) From: Paul Graham To: Aussie Weather Subject: aussie-weather: NSW Coastal Weather Info. Reply-Receipt: pgraham1 at extro.ucc.su.oz.au Reply-Read: pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com IDW00N00 Priority Gale Warning Coastal Waters South of Seal Rocks Strong Wind Warning Seal Rocks to Tweed Heads BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 1439 on Tuesday the 27th of October 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------ AREA20 09:03 UTC, 27/10/1998 AREA FORECAST 271100 TO 272300 AREA 20 OVERVIEW: SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS TO SEAWARD. ISOLATED SHOWERS REST OF AREA. LOCALLY BROKEN LOW CLOUD WITH PRECIPITATION. -------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- Paul Graham m3052695 at hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au ---------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Waterspouts off Sydney... Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:19:50 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I had an eye peeled for Waterspouts this afternoon on the pushbike ride from work, I ride right past Warilla beach and the setup was ideal with congestus about 10-20km out. But I saw nothing. Same this morning, another ideal setup so I was hoping for a lucky sighting of one. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Paul Graham To: Aussie Weather Date: Tuesday, 27 October 1998 20:00 Subject: aussie-weather: Waterspouts off Sydney... >Hi everyone, > some very spectacular Cb clouds off the coast from Sydney this >afternoon (with overshooting tops and wispy anvils). Watched from the bus >on the way home from Uni. this afternoon hoping I'd get home in time to >take a photo before sunset. Was also thinking about the possibility of >waterspouts since the storms seemed particularly well structured and I was >wishing I could go down to the coast for this very reason. Got home and >only got 1 photo in before sunset (a bit disappointed but Michael Bath has >some more I believe). On the ABC weather tonight, Mike Bailey reported >that their have been some reports of waterspouts off the coast this >afternoon - most likely associated with the line of storms I would think >(since I didn't see any others earlier). Any reports from you Michael >Thompson? They seemed to be down towards Wollongong... > - Paul G. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: disarm at mail.braenet.com.au Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:20:12 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt Smith Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Waterspouts off Sydney... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com heya!! i took around 10 photo's or so...from burwood plaza car park roof,when the sun was up, i noticed it all starting to happen around 6ish.. very nice indeed.. and water spouts!! are you for real!!! im a bit to far inland.. couldnt see any, as i said in the last email, clouds were beautifuly structured...also went to bicentenial park to climb the tower.. except they closed the gates 2 minutes b4 i arrived... all i gotta say is this has made my day! >Hi everyone, > some very spectacular Cb clouds off the coast from Sydney this >afternoon (with overshooting tops and wispy anvils). Watched from the bus >on the way home from Uni. this afternoon hoping I'd get home in time to >take a photo before sunset. Was also thinking about the possibility of >waterspouts since the storms seemed particularly well structured and I was >wishing I could go down to the coast for this very reason. Got home and >only got 1 photo in before sunset (a bit disappointed but Michael Bath has >some more I believe). On the ABC weather tonight, Mike Bailey reported >that their have been some reports of waterspouts off the coast this >afternoon - most likely associated with the line of storms I would think >(since I didn't see any others earlier). Any reports from you Michael >Thompson? They seemed to be down towards Wollongong... > - Paul G. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "paulmoss" To: Subject: aussie-weather: Wanna Chase some good weather?? Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:28:24 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: High X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening everyone!! Has anybody got any holidays coming up between now & December (before school holidays start??) Reason is Imp thinking of taking some , and going North for some chasing and photography. depends on who is going, as to means of transport. Think about it.......before Monsoon weather starts in North, while still good storms around. Looking at mid - end of November early December (first 2 weeks.........). All welcome. Paul. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: disarm at mail.braenet.com.au Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:51:58 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt Smith Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Wanna Chase some good weather?? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com heya paul i guess i could, still have 4 weeks worth of holidays up my sleeve :) id only go if there is large interest.also im on my p's which restricts me to 80 k's an hour, so maybe i should go with someone else, but yeah, id be interested. Matt in sydney. >Evening everyone!! Has anybody got any holidays coming up between now & >December (before school holidays start??) > >Reason is Imp thinking of taking some , and going North for some chasing and >photography. depends on who is going, as to means of transport. Think about >it.......before Monsoon weather starts in North, while still good storms >around. Looking at mid - end of November early December (first 2 >weeks.........). > >All welcome. > >Paul. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:04:45 +1100 X-Sender: pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello everyone, Just checking the latest capital metars and noticed this for Sydney airport.. *YSSY METARAWS YSSY 0930Z 25013G17KT CAVOK 12.8/M00.7 Q1011.4 RMK RF00.0/000.8 CLD:CLR BLW 125 VIS:9999 DISTANT LIGHTNING TO ENE TTF:NOSIG It seems pretty amazing or at least unusual to me to have lightning with such a low dew point - I guess it shows how cold the air aloft really is. Canberra is fairly calm at the moment - although there appears to be some active Cu building to the east. Around 5.30 EDT some futher soft hail fell and there were spectacular views of the Cb cells to the east (with the sun shining from behind) with snow virga reaching the hills at around 800 - 900m. Patrick from Canberra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:10:18 +1100 (EST) From: Paul Graham To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney Reply-Receipt: pgraham1 at extro.ucc.su.oz.au Reply-Read: pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com - Coastal thunderstorms are quite common here when cold air passes over a relatively warm sea (as is the case today). You'll also find that DP's would be a lot higher over the sea where the storms are forming. - Paul G. > It seems pretty amazing or at least unusual to me to have lightning with > such a low dew point - I guess it shows how cold the air aloft really is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:47:06 +1100 X-Sender: pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Paul The metar does not say how far off the coast the storms are. The WSW wind direction suggests that it doesn't take too long a trajectory over the warmer waters to allow storms to develop. Living inland, I tend to forget the often large contrast in stability of cold air masses between land and sea during cold outbreaks. I have often caught the plane from Canberra to Sydney following a southerly change and noticed the large change in cloud conditions (quite stable inland grading to often quite unstable on the coast) over a relatively short distance. Come to think of it, this contrast can often be complete between the western suburbs of Sydney and the coast. It reminds me a little of the "lake effect" snows that occur on the lee side of the US Great Lakes following a polar outbreak which I was lucky to experience a couple of years ago. Canberra temp now 5.1 - starting to get into the possible snow flake range before morning (although that is all that it would likely be). Patrick >- Coastal thunderstorms are quite common here when cold air passes over a >relatively warm sea (as is the case today). You'll also find that DP's >would be a lot higher over the sea where the storms are forming. >- Paul G. > >> It seems pretty amazing or at least unusual to me to have lightning with >> such a low dew point - I guess it shows how cold the air aloft really is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: aussie-weather: Re: Waterspouts off Sydney... Date: Tue, 27 Oct 98 21:37:31 +1000 X-Sender: mildad at mail.one.net.au From: mildad To: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yesterday after the storms I went to Beacon Hill lookout which is a few kms from the coast and provides a fantastic 360o view (except for a few tree tops to the NW) . I was also hoping that I may just see a waterspout - I didn't but the anvils of the storms were very spectacular nonetheless - If we manage to get onto a decent Sydney storm together this season Paul, Jimmy, Michael(s) it is a great way to wind up the day watching the storms move off the coast. Speaking of the waterspouts, I noticed that you observed overshooting tops (which i always seem to associate with supercells) with the offshore storms - is it possible that these spouts may be associated with mesocyclones rather than misocyclones. Cheers David Croan >some very spectacular Cb clouds off the coast from Sydney this >afternoon (with overshooting tops and wispy anvils). Watched from the bus >on the way home from Uni. this afternoon hoping I'd get home in time to >take a photo before sunset. Was also thinking about the possibility of >waterspouts since the storms seemed particularly well structured and I was >wishing I could go down to the coast for this very reason. Got home and >only got 1 photo in before sunset (a bit disappointed but Michael Bath has >some more I believe). On the ABC weather tonight, Mike Bailey reported >that their have been some reports of waterspouts off the coast this >afternoon - most likely associated with the line of storms I would think >(since I didn't see any others earlier). Any reports from you Michael >Thompson? They seemed to be down towards Wollong -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:50:58 +1100 Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney From: "Mark Hardy" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com PAT Storms off the east coast in a cold outbreak are pretty common - even with a sub-zero dewpoint on the coast. While the winds in Sydney are westerly, further offshore they are probably more SW or SSW. This means a few things; 1 The air offshore has picked up more moisture due it's longer over-water trajectory. 2 There is a convergent zone between the westerlies flowing off the land and more southerly winds offshore. 3 The cold air hitting the warm water is very unstable. Remember the Tasman is about 8 to 10 degrees warmer than W Bass Strait (the previous body of water this air was affected by ) So showers or storms will form in this convergent zone more or less continuously and be steered away from the coast - with more showers/storms forming as old cells move away. You may be able see this on the satpic if you have a high res shot. The extraordinary coldness of this outbreak and the warmth of the Tasman makes for a particularly unstable airstream a few hundred k's off the coast. Needless to say the folks over at Lord Howe Is will probably pick up some good storms tonight. ---------- >From: pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney >Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:04 > >Hello everyone, > >Just checking the latest capital metars and noticed this for Sydney airport.. > >*YSSY METARAWS YSSY 0930Z 25013G17KT CAVOK 12.8/M00.7 Q1011.4 RMK > RF00.0/000.8 CLD:CLR BLW 125 VIS:9999 DISTANT LIGHTNING TO ENE > TTF:NOSIG > >It seems pretty amazing or at least unusual to me to have lightning with >such a low dew point - I guess it shows how cold the air aloft really is. > >Canberra is fairly calm at the moment - although there appears to be some >active Cu building to the east. >Around 5.30 EDT some futher soft hail fell and there were spectacular views >of the Cb cells to the east (with the sun shining from behind) with snow >virga reaching the hills at around 800 - 900m. > >Patrick from Canberra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:18:04 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Take a look at these picture quality http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/storm/199810270754.html Jimmy Deguara from Schofields -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hardy To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 10:52 PM Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney >PAT > >Storms off the east coast in a cold outbreak are pretty common - even with a >sub-zero dewpoint on the coast. While the winds in Sydney are westerly, >further offshore they are probably more SW or SSW. This means a few things; >1 The air offshore has picked up more moisture due it's longer over-water >trajectory. >2 There is a convergent zone between the westerlies flowing off the land >and more southerly winds offshore. >3 The cold air hitting the warm water is very unstable. Remember the >Tasman is about 8 to 10 degrees warmer than W Bass Strait (the previous body >of water this air was affected by ) > >So showers or storms will form in this convergent zone more or less >continuously and be steered away from the coast - with more showers/storms >forming as old cells move away. You may be able see this on the satpic if >you have a high res shot. > >The extraordinary coldness of this outbreak and the warmth of the Tasman >makes for a particularly unstable airstream a few hundred k's off the coast. >Needless to say the folks over at Lord Howe Is will probably pick up some >good storms tonight. >---------- >>From: pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>Subject: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney >>Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:04 >> > >>Hello everyone, >> >>Just checking the latest capital metars and noticed this for Sydney airport.. >> >>*YSSY METARAWS YSSY 0930Z 25013G17KT CAVOK 12.8/M00.7 Q1011.4 RMK >> RF00.0/000.8 CLD:CLR BLW 125 VIS:9999 DISTANT LIGHTNING TO ENE >> TTF:NOSIG >> >>It seems pretty amazing or at least unusual to me to have lightning with >>such a low dew point - I guess it shows how cold the air aloft really is. >> >>Canberra is fairly calm at the moment - although there appears to be some >>active Cu building to the east. >>Around 5.30 EDT some futher soft hail fell and there were spectacular views >>of the Cb cells to the east (with the sun shining from behind) with snow >>virga reaching the hills at around 800 - 900m. >> >>Patrick from Canberra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: aussie-weather: Re: Wanna Chase some good weather?? Date: Tue, 27 Oct 98 22:27:43 +1000 X-Sender: mildad at mail.one.net.au From: mildad To: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul I have been thinking for a while now of chasing north - in the area where the guys went during the great chase in sept/oct this year. I am taking one week off later this year (probably in about a months time when work quietens) and heading North (more W NW for you) to the Nth west slopes/ Northern Tablelands region (roughly Gilgandra across to Armidale). I head Nth for holidays periodically as I have family at Tamworth and friends at Coffs. The difference is this year I will do it for mainly for observing thunderstorms and so might do it at short notice when storms look like firing. I particularly like this area as it is probably the most prone area in NSW if not Australia for severe thunderstorms. Also if the storms aren't on the National Parks are great. I got the impression when you said north you meant a lot more north than me! Anyway let me know what your plans are as we may be able to link up somewhere. I am sweating on my friend being able to go with his laptop as I think I would feel pretty naked out there without internet access. Regards David Croan >Evening everyone!! Has anybody got any holidays coming up between now & >December (before school holidays start??) > >Reason is Imp thinking of taking some , and going North for some chasing and >photography. depends on who is going, as to means of transport. Think about >it.......before Monsoon weather starts in North, while still good storms >around. Looking at mid - end of November early December (first 2 >weeks.........). > >All welcome. > >Paul. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Re: Wanna Chase some good weather?? Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:29:13 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Guys, I wish I could come along but have to work. Not good to leave it for the holidays due to the Police presence. But I may have to leave it for then. Late December.... You can get access, at least during the week through the libraries.... We did it the whole time. Around TAFES and Universities (UNE), you can get access sometimes free. UNE was free. Jimmy Deguara You should get some good storms nevertheless. -----Original Message----- From: mildad To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 11:24 PM Subject: aussie-weather: Re: Wanna Chase some good weather?? >Hi Paul > >I have been thinking for a while now of chasing north - in the area where >the guys went during the great chase in sept/oct this year. >I am taking one week off later this year (probably in about a months time >when work quietens) and heading North (more W NW for you) to the Nth west >slopes/ Northern Tablelands region (roughly Gilgandra across to >Armidale). I head Nth for holidays periodically as I have family at >Tamworth and friends at Coffs. The difference is this year I will do it >for mainly for observing thunderstorms and so might do it at short notice >when storms look like firing. I particularly like this area as it is >probably the most prone area in NSW if not Australia for severe >thunderstorms. Also if the storms aren't on the National Parks are great. > >I got the impression when you said north you meant a lot more north than >me! Anyway let me know what your plans are as we may be able to link up >somewhere. I am sweating on my friend being able to go with his laptop as >I think I would feel pretty naked out there without internet access. > >Regards > >David Croan > > > >>Evening everyone!! Has anybody got any holidays coming up between now & >>December (before school holidays start??) >> >>Reason is Imp thinking of taking some , and going North for some chasing and >>photography. depends on who is going, as to means of transport. Think about >>it.......before Monsoon weather starts in North, while still good storms >>around. Looking at mid - end of November early December (first 2 >>weeks.........). >> >>All welcome. >> >>Paul. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:33:12 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You will see a couple of little bays 34S. Jimmy -----Original Message----- From: Matt Smith To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 11:31 PM Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney >jimmy >yeah i took alook a those about 20 minutes ago.. excelelnt detail hey! (oh >BTW is sydney on the 34 line ? if not where is it ?) >thanks >Matt > >>Take a look at these picture quality >> >>http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/storm/199810270754.html >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mark Hardy >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 10:52 PM >>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney >> >> >>>PAT >>> >>>Storms off the east coast in a cold outbreak are pretty common - even with >>a >>>sub-zero dewpoint on the coast. While the winds in Sydney are westerly, >>>further offshore they are probably more SW or SSW. This means a few things; >>>1 The air offshore has picked up more moisture due it's longer >>over-water >>>trajectory. >>>2 There is a convergent zone between the westerlies flowing off the land >>>and more southerly winds offshore. >>>3 The cold air hitting the warm water is very unstable. Remember the >>>Tasman is about 8 to 10 degrees warmer than W Bass Strait (the previous >>body >>>of water this air was affected by ) >>> >>>So showers or storms will form in this convergent zone more or less >>>continuously and be steered away from the coast - with more showers/storms >>>forming as old cells move away. You may be able see this on the satpic if >>>you have a high res shot. >>> >>>The extraordinary coldness of this outbreak and the warmth of the Tasman >>>makes for a particularly unstable airstream a few hundred k's off the >>coast. >>>Needless to say the folks over at Lord Howe Is will probably pick up some >>>good storms tonight. >>>---------- >>>>From: pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au >>>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>>>Subject: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney >>>>Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:04 >>>> >>> >>>>Hello everyone, >>>> >>>>Just checking the latest capital metars and noticed this for Sydney >>airport.. >>>> >>>>*YSSY METARAWS YSSY 0930Z 25013G17KT CAVOK 12.8/M00.7 Q1011.4 RMK >>>> RF00.0/000.8 CLD:CLR BLW 125 VIS:9999 DISTANT LIGHTNING TO ENE >>>> TTF:NOSIG >>>> >>>>It seems pretty amazing or at least unusual to me to have lightning with >>>>such a low dew point - I guess it shows how cold the air aloft really is. >>>> >>>>Canberra is fairly calm at the moment - although there appears to be some >>>>active Cu building to the east. >>>>Around 5.30 EDT some futher soft hail fell and there were spectacular >>views >>>>of the Cb cells to the east (with the sun shining from behind) with snow >>>>virga reaching the hills at around 800 - 900m. >>>> >>>>Patrick from Canberra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:37:05 +1100 Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney From: "Mark Hardy" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jimmy That piccy is pretty awesome. IS that from NOAA? You can even see the river valleys around Waragamba and Grose. Amazing. Are these updated regularly? Mark ---------- >From: "Jimmy Deguara" >To: >Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney >Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:18 > >Take a look at these picture quality > >http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/storm/199810270754.html > >Jimmy Deguara from Schofields >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Hardy >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 10:52 PM >Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney > > >>PAT >> >>Storms off the east coast in a cold outbreak are pretty common - even with >a >>sub-zero dewpoint on the coast. While the winds in Sydney are westerly, >>further offshore they are probably more SW or SSW. This means a few things; >>1 The air offshore has picked up more moisture due it's longer >over-water >>trajectory. >>2 There is a convergent zone between the westerlies flowing off the land >>and more southerly winds offshore. >>3 The cold air hitting the warm water is very unstable. Remember the >>Tasman is about 8 to 10 degrees warmer than W Bass Strait (the previous >body >>of water this air was affected by ) >> >>So showers or storms will form in this convergent zone more or less >>continuously and be steered away from the coast - with more showers/storms >>forming as old cells move away. You may be able see this on the satpic if >>you have a high res shot. >> >>The extraordinary coldness of this outbreak and the warmth of the Tasman >>makes for a particularly unstable airstream a few hundred k's off the >coast. >>Needless to say the folks over at Lord Howe Is will probably pick up some >>good storms tonight. >>---------- >>>From: pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au >>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>>Subject: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney >>>Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:04 >>> >> >>>Hello everyone, >>> >>>Just checking the latest capital metars and noticed this for Sydney >airport.. >>> >>>*YSSY METARAWS YSSY 0930Z 25013G17KT CAVOK 12.8/M00.7 Q1011.4 RMK >>> RF00.0/000.8 CLD:CLR BLW 125 VIS:9999 DISTANT LIGHTNING TO ENE >>> TTF:NOSIG >>> >>>It seems pretty amazing or at least unusual to me to have lightning with >>>such a low dew point - I guess it shows how cold the air aloft really is. >>> >>>Canberra is fairly calm at the moment - although there appears to be some >>>active Cu building to the east. >>>Around 5.30 EDT some futher soft hail fell and there were spectacular >views >>>of the Cb cells to the east (with the sun shining from behind) with snow >>>virga reaching the hills at around 800 - 900m. >>> >>>Patrick from Canberra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:38:15 +1100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/storm/ I had negotiated to get these available. I did not know they were at 1km resolution though. There is no other site that has such resolution. Yes it is Noaa and only is available in morning and afternoon. Jimmy -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hardy To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 11:36 PM Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney >Jimmy > >That piccy is pretty awesome. IS that from NOAA? You can even see the river >valleys around Waragamba and Grose. Amazing. Are these updated regularly? > >Mark >---------- >>From: "Jimmy Deguara" >>To: >>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney >>Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:18 >> > >>Take a look at these picture quality >> >>http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/storm/199810270754.html >> >>Jimmy Deguara from Schofields >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mark Hardy >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 10:52 PM >>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney >> >> >>>PAT >>> >>>Storms off the east coast in a cold outbreak are pretty common - even with >>a >>>sub-zero dewpoint on the coast. While the winds in Sydney are westerly, >>>further offshore they are probably more SW or SSW. This means a few things; >>>1 The air offshore has picked up more moisture due it's longer >>over-water >>>trajectory. >>>2 There is a convergent zone between the westerlies flowing off the land >>>and more southerly winds offshore. >>>3 The cold air hitting the warm water is very unstable. Remember the >>>Tasman is about 8 to 10 degrees warmer than W Bass Strait (the previous >>body >>>of water this air was affected by ) >>> >>>So showers or storms will form in this convergent zone more or less >>>continuously and be steered away from the coast - with more showers/storms >>>forming as old cells move away. You may be able see this on the satpic if >>>you have a high res shot. >>> >>>The extraordinary coldness of this outbreak and the warmth of the Tasman >>>makes for a particularly unstable airstream a few hundred k's off the >>coast. >>>Needless to say the folks over at Lord Howe Is will probably pick up some >>>good storms tonight. >>>---------- >>>>From: pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au >>>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>>>Subject: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney >>>>Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:04 >>>> >>> >>>>Hello everyone, >>>> >>>>Just checking the latest capital metars and noticed this for Sydney >>airport.. >>>> >>>>*YSSY METARAWS YSSY 0930Z 25013G17KT CAVOK 12.8/M00.7 Q1011.4 RMK >>>> RF00.0/000.8 CLD:CLR BLW 125 VIS:9999 DISTANT LIGHTNING TO ENE >>>> TTF:NOSIG >>>> >>>>It seems pretty amazing or at least unusual to me to have lightning with >>>>such a low dew point - I guess it shows how cold the air aloft really is. >>>> >>>>Canberra is fairly calm at the moment - although there appears to be some >>>>active Cu building to the east. >>>>Around 5.30 EDT some futher soft hail fell and there were spectacular >>views >>>>of the Cb cells to the east (with the sun shining from behind) with snow >>>>virga reaching the hills at around 800 - 900m. >>>> >>>>Patrick from Canberra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: disarm at mail.braenet.com.au Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:38:35 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt Smith Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com jimmy yeah i took alook a those about 20 minutes ago.. excelelnt detail hey! (oh BTW is sydney on the 34 line ? if not where is it ?) thanks Matt >Take a look at these picture quality > >http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/storm/199810270754.html >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Hardy >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 10:52 PM >Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney > > >>PAT >> >>Storms off the east coast in a cold outbreak are pretty common - even with >a >>sub-zero dewpoint on the coast. While the winds in Sydney are westerly, >>further offshore they are probably more SW or SSW. This means a few things; >>1 The air offshore has picked up more moisture due it's longer >over-water >>trajectory. >>2 There is a convergent zone between the westerlies flowing off the land >>and more southerly winds offshore. >>3 The cold air hitting the warm water is very unstable. Remember the >>Tasman is about 8 to 10 degrees warmer than W Bass Strait (the previous >body >>of water this air was affected by ) >> >>So showers or storms will form in this convergent zone more or less >>continuously and be steered away from the coast - with more showers/storms >>forming as old cells move away. You may be able see this on the satpic if >>you have a high res shot. >> >>The extraordinary coldness of this outbreak and the warmth of the Tasman >>makes for a particularly unstable airstream a few hundred k's off the >coast. >>Needless to say the folks over at Lord Howe Is will probably pick up some >>good storms tonight. >>---------- >>>From: pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au >>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>>Subject: aussie-weather: Lightning off Sydney >>>Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:04 >>> >> >>>Hello everyone, >>> >>>Just checking the latest capital metars and noticed this for Sydney >airport.. >>> >>>*YSSY METARAWS YSSY 0930Z 25013G17KT CAVOK 12.8/M00.7 Q1011.4 RMK >>> RF00.0/000.8 CLD:CLR BLW 125 VIS:9999 DISTANT LIGHTNING TO ENE >>> TTF:NOSIG >>> >>>It seems pretty amazing or at least unusual to me to have lightning with >>>such a low dew point - I guess it shows how cold the air aloft really is. >>> >>>Canberra is fairly calm at the moment - although there appears to be some >>>active Cu building to the east. >>>Around 5.30 EDT some futher soft hail fell and there were spectacular >views >>>of the Cb cells to the east (with the sun shining from behind) with snow >>>virga reaching the hills at around 800 - 900m. >>> >>>Patrick from Canberra
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