http://australiasevereweather.com/ From: "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:05:25 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 21-122337/2694 Subject: aus-wx: Monthly Summary - November My monthly summary for November recorded at Morphett Vale, Adelaide is now online at http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer/weatherhistory.htm for anyone who may be interested :) Regs, Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stormplanet $David Simpson$" To: "Aussie Weather" Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:25:21 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 29-122337/2694 Subject: aus-wx: Melb Storms Sunday Nov 30th

Hi everyone,

A low pressure trough slowly moved eastwards over Victoria on Sunday and as a result some areas experienced thunderstorms, some severe, and squalls. I was positioned close to home in the Yarra Valley and decided to photograph structure on this day, as opposed to chasing. I did however pursue a cell that was showing signs of being quite organised and started to develop a wall cloud. This occurred between Coldstream and Gruyere and I followed the cell before it disappeared from view towards Healesville. Although the cell started to develop a weak inflow band (see image taken looking north, band visible on NW flank) I suspect it failed to develop further but I am yet to analyse radar loops. The image is here.

I have processed a few images form the day, linked below, many more to assess and I have video to look at as well. I will post links to further images and footage if I think it’s worthy, cheers and thanks.

Sunday Morning:

http://www.stormplanet.com/301103cg2d.jpg

http://www.stormplanet.com/301103cg2a.jpg

http://www.stormplanet.com/301103_3.jpg

Sunday Afternoon:

http://www.stormplanet.com/301103_4.jpg

http://www.stormplanet.com/301103_5.jpg

http://www.stormplanet.com/301103_6.jpg

http://www.stormplanet.com/301103_pan1.jpg

http://www.stormplanet.com/301103_pan4.jpg

David Simpson

www.stormplanet.com

From: "Adam Mayo" To: Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:02:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 79-122338/2694 Subject: aus-wx: Melb Storms Sunday Nov 30th

Nice pictures David. It looks as though it was a huge storm.

Do you know if Ballarat got any rain out of it as well?

Judy Mayo

From: "James Harris" To: Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:31:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 131-122338/2694 Subject: aus-wx: Riverina Storm Photos - 30 NOV 2003 Just a couple of shots of yesterday's storms taken from Eruna to Oaklands and then onto Rand and Lockhart. The day started off ok with some weak cells forming in the clear air behind the main cloud band however it wasnt till late in the afternoon that some big cells developed in front of the trough near Hillston and also on the trough which develped into a strong line of severe storms. Wind gusts were around 40 - 60 knots from the outflow nearly strong enough to blow my 4wd over at one point. A full report will be going up on http://www.sydneystormchasers.com in the next couple of days however in the mean time here are some captures from yesterday. http://sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/Thumbs/thl_11-30-03-03vc.j pg Heading East to Oakville http://sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/Thumbs/thl_11-30-03-09vc.j pg CG hits the field next to us http://sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/Thumbs/thl_11-30-03-16vc.j pg Matt Smith captures a great CG on his Camera http://sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/Thumbs/thl_11-30-03-17vc.j pg Matt Smith 2 seconds after snapping that CG http://sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/Thumbs/thl_11-30-03-21vc.j pg The Gust Front overtaking us as 40 - 60knot winds buffer the car James +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 01:57:11 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 88-122338/2694 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather summary: November

November Summary here:

Average

Min 13.6C

Max 27.7C Much warmer and better than October.

Rainfall 7.6mm Very very disappointed rainfall.

From Nathan.

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Summaries of my observations for November 2003 are now available.

Click the link below, then on the main page navigate to the observations page and choose monthly or annual summaries.

Keith Barnett
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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:24:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Chas Osborn" To: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 149-122338/2694 Subject: aus-wx: Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 03:43:37 +1000 Hello Everyone Three days with storms around. No rain today but 26mm over the previous two. Some of the storms have had a tremendous amount of lightning. Looks like more of the same in the next couple of days. Chas Bedourie Qld +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:58:22 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 168-122338/2694 Subject: aus-wx: Nov 2003

Hello Wonderful People:

Heres some figures on the weather in Mena, Arkansas for November, 2003:

Avg. Max: 63.3F(17.3C)

Avg. Min: 45.9F(7.7C)

Highest Max: 78F(25.5C) Nov 1, 3 and 4

Lowest Min: 23F(-5.0C) Nov 25, 29

Rain for Month: 6.05"(153.6mm)

(+1.15"/+29.2mm)

Rain for Year: 40.25"(1,022.3mm)

(-10.05"/-255.2mm)

10 Raindays in Month.

It was so mild that I mowed parts of our yard on the 21st, we had a rose bush that was blooming until the 25th. The freeze on the morning of the 25th was a span of 226 days since the last freeze of Spring.

Wishing ALL A Wonderful, Happy, Prosperous & Blessed Month of December & An Awesome Christmas Season!

Best Wishes---Yours~~~David Powell

From: Blair Trewin To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:15:34 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 169-122338/2694 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melb Storms Sunday Nov 30th > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C3B856.E1D47000 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Nice pictures David. It looks as though it was a huge storm. > > Do you know if Ballarat got any rain out of it as well? > No, although they picked up the princely sum of 0.2mm overnight, presumably from morning drizzle. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:58:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 190-122338/2694 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melb Storms Sunday Nov 30th Thanks Blair, We have friends in Ballarat and when I think it looks as though the rain is heading their way on the radar it doesn;t always happen.\ Judy Mayo > No, although they picked up the princely sum of 0.2mm overnight, > presumably from morning drizzle. > > Blair > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:18:16 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 193-122338/2694 Subject: aus-wx: EO Natural Hazards Total solar eclipse over Antarctica

For anyone who is interested, here is a picture of last weeks solar eclipse.

Judy

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/shownh.php3?img_id=11858 From: "Bussy" To: Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:02:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 4-12247/10782 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Riverina Storm Photos - 30 NOV 2003 Very nice. Been pretty active around here as well in the last few days. Had hail yesterday approx 10k south of Rutherglen at approx 4cm in size. Lots of wind damage in Chiltern with flash flooding thrown in for good measure. Got some video but haven't checked it yet. Sunday was similar with very active lightning with one bolt coming a little too close. Bright blue flash, instant bang and some sparks behind my Ute. Couldn't see what it hit though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Harris" To: Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:31 PM Subject: aus-wx: Riverina Storm Photos - 30 NOV 2003 > Just a couple of shots of yesterday's storms taken from Eruna to Oaklands > and then onto Rand and Lockhart. > > The day started off ok with some weak cells forming in the clear air behind > the main cloud band however it wasnt till late in the afternoon that some > big cells developed in front of the trough near Hillston and also on the > trough which develped into a strong line of severe storms. Wind gusts were > around 40 - 60 knots from the outflow nearly strong enough to blow my 4wd > over at one point. > > A full report will be going up on http://www.sydneystormchasers.com in the > next couple of days however in the mean time here are some captures from > yesterday. > > http://sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/Thumbs/thl_11-30-03-03vc.j > pg > Heading East to Oakville > > http://sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/Thumbs/thl_11-30-03-09vc.j > pg > CG hits the field next to us > > http://sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/Thumbs/thl_11-30-03-16vc.j > pg > Matt Smith captures a great CG on his Camera > > http://sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/Thumbs/thl_11-30-03-17vc.j > pg > Matt Smith 2 seconds after snapping that CG > > http://sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/Thumbs/thl_11-30-03-21vc.j > pg > The Gust Front overtaking us as 40 - 60knot winds buffer the car > > James > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 00:28:19 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 85-123625/2828 Subject: aus-wx: Fw: SA Cool-season Tornado article Subject: SA Cool-season Tornado article Thought you might be interested in this (not sure if you've seen it already). It is an article from the "Weather and Forecasting" journal about cool-season tornadoes in southern Oz: http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~robert/017-04-0705.pdf It's 2.6Mb in size. Received this in my mail & thought I'd post it here too :) Regs, Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Steven Williams" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:43:12 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 51-123637/5693 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: SA Cool-season Tornado article Thanks for passing that on. It is very relevant to the NZ situation as well. The strong low level wind shear certainly encourages damaging storms along the west of NZ in winter and spring. Could be tornadoes or severe gusts. I have heard on the radio here of 100mm+ in two hours in melbourne yesterday. Thats a phenomenal storm. Cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:58 AM Subject: aus-wx: Fw: SA Cool-season Tornado article > Subject: SA Cool-season Tornado article > > > Thought you might be interested in this (not sure if you've seen it > already). It is an article from the "Weather and Forecasting" > journal about cool-season tornadoes in southern Oz: > > http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~robert/017-04-0705.pdf > It's 2.6Mb in size. > > > > Received this in my mail & thought I'd post it here too :) > > Regs, Paul. > (Stargazer) > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stormplanet $David Simpson$" To: "Aussie Weather" Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:23:41 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 53-123637/5693 Subject: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03

For anyone interested (and increibly bored!) I have the A Current Affair crew with me today and the interview goes to air tonight. Also a radio interview on 774 ABC Radio here in Melbourne around 1.45 p.m. Focusing on past 24 hours + footage etc. By the way, have had incredible weather here as everyone would know by now, will compile reports (eventually) and post a link here.

Cheers

David Simpson

www.stormplanet.com

From: "Simon Angell" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:00:09 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 63-123637/5693 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03

Hi David.

Was wating radar EXPLODE late last night, was an awesome looking storm/s that impacted the Melb area... 88mm in 3 hours at the Viewbank/Bullen AWS is awesome. I have also read reports of over 100mm falling in other parts in those same few hours! Quite an amazing nocturnal storm!

Simon

www.canberra-wx.com

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From: Stormplanet (David Simpson)

To: Aussie Weather

Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:23 AM

Subject: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03

For anyone interested (and increibly bored!) I have the A Current Affair crew with me today and the interview goes to air tonight. Also a radio interview on 774 ABC Radio here in Melbourne around 1.45 p.m. Focusing on past 24 hours + footage etc. By the way, have had incredible weather here as everyone would know by now, will compile reports (eventually) and post a link here.

Cheers

David Simpson

www.stormplanet.com

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X-Originating-IP: [203.54.32.70] X-Originating-Email: [faerinelda at hotmail.com] X-Sender: faerinelda at hotmail.com From: "Fae Elliott" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:48:39 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2003 03:48:39.0697 (UTC) FILETIME=[568AE010:01C3B950] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 100-123637/5693 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03 Hello everyone, I trust alot of you didnt sleep very well last night! I live in Frankston and watched nearly 3 strikes every second for about an hour from 11 last night, and being an amature everything I got a photo of lightning, perfect storm for anyone to get a photo. The activity didnt stall until 1.30 when the first lot passed around me (i think) and it all slowed down and didnt do alot but at 3 there was more lightning coming up and it was awesome. I was dead tired and (cant believe it) slept through what woke my housemates up. bugger. I cant wait for your reports on it all, photos, weatherzone captures etc, it was so awesome. Anyway, enthusiasm aside I have a couple of things for you that you may have seen. On the second floor of my house I had a view of the whole sky and storms approaching...what does it mean when the lightning travels up? what are the things that flare at the top called like a lightning tornado shooting up from the clouds (kind of)? did you guys ever discover why we get green, orange or purple lightning? is it because of the heat of the strike? does the lightning cause the hail, type, frequency? or is it something else that contributes to its size? ok well thanks for listening and you dont have to answer ill read it in your posts etc. and on your sites. your all great, thank you and im taping ACA. : ) Catherine & Belle in Frankston _________________________________________________________________ Get less junk mail with ninemsn Premium. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:25:14 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon, VK3JED" Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 114-123637/5693 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melb Storms Sunday Nov 30th At 10:02 PM 1/12/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Nice pictures David. It looks as though it was a huge storm. > >Do you know if Ballarat got any rain out of it as well? Very little in Ballarat. I was there from Friday afternoon to late Tuesday evening and very little action. For me, just as well, as I was competing in an international sporting event, and severe WX would have caused problems. Closest we got was one cell that drifted over around 11AM. 73 de VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Steven Williams" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:27:48 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 4-124421/541 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03

The Melbourne storm was covered on NZ TV news this evening. A "once in a lifetime storm" dumped 150mm

in two hours over Melbourne's E and N suburbs. Saw footage of cars in water and flooded homes and lightning.

Cheers

Steven W Auckland

----- Original Message -----

From: Stormplanet (David Simpson)

To: Aussie Weather

Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 1:23 PM

Subject: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03

For anyone interested (and increibly bored!) I have the A Current Affair crew with me today and the interview goes to air tonight. Also a radio interview on 774 ABC Radio here in Melbourne around 1.45 p.m. Focusing on past 24 hours + footage etc. By the way, have had incredible weather here as everyone would know by now, will compile reports (eventually) and post a link here.

Cheers

David Simpson

www.stormplanet.com

From: "Stargazer" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:27:32 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 4-12383/26736 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03 ...what does it mean when the lightning travels up? what are the > things that flare at the top called like a lightning tornado shooting up > from the clouds (kind of)? Not exactly sure on what you saw during the storm last night but maybe these links might be useful... http://ibis.nmt.edu/sprites/index.html http://www.fma-research.com/Papers&presentations/spr-view-1.html Sound like you lot over Melbourne way & surrounding areas had some fun last night with a bit of a shower (100mm+ in 3-4 hours in some areas!?! ;) Regs, Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:35:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 4-1232460/11373 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03 I'm not sure about the colours either. I had quite a few close strikes on Sunday arvo/evening up here that were purple coloured. There were that many strikes all around I thought I'd buggered my vision :-) It was so windy that it blew out three fuses......... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fae Elliott" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03 > > Hello everyone, > > I trust alot of you didnt sleep very well last night! I live in Frankston > and watched nearly 3 strikes every second for about an hour from 11 last > night, and being an amature everything I got a photo of lightning, perfect > storm for anyone to get a photo. The activity didnt stall until 1.30 when > the first lot passed around me (i think) and it all slowed down and didnt do > alot but at 3 there was more lightning coming up and it was awesome. I was > dead tired and (cant believe it) slept through what woke my housemates up. > bugger. I cant wait for your reports on it all, photos, weatherzone captures > etc, it was so awesome. Anyway, enthusiasm aside I have a couple of things > for you that you may have seen. > > On the second floor of my house I had a view of the whole sky and storms > approaching...what does it mean when the lightning travels up? what are the > things that flare at the top called like a lightning tornado shooting up > from the clouds (kind of)? did you guys ever discover why we get green, > orange or purple lightning? is it because of the heat of the strike? does > the lightning cause the hail, type, frequency? or is it something else that > contributes to its size? > > ok well thanks for listening and you dont have to answer ill read it in your > posts etc. and on your sites. > > your all great, thank you and im taping ACA. : ) > > Catherine & Belle > in Frankston > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get less junk mail with ninemsn Premium. Click here > http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:47:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 5-1232460/11373 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melb Storms Sunday Nov 30th Way off topic but what sporting event? Be interesting to know what some other people do? We all love storms etc of course........ > > > Very little in Ballarat. I was there from Friday afternoon to late Tuesday > evening and very little action. For me, just as well, as I was competing > in an international sporting event, and severe WX would have caused > problems. Closest we got was one cell that drifted over around 11AM. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:58:02 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon, VK3JED" Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 6-1232460/11373 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melb Storms Sunday Nov 30th At 06:47 PM 3/12/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Way off topic but what sporting event? Be interesting to know what some >other people do? We all love storms etc of course........ Radio orienteering, like normal orienteering except you aren't told where the controls are - you have to find them with direction finding equipment then navigate around the map :-) Now for the on topic bit. No significant lightning in the Ballarat area yesterday. While I was listening to the beacons on 3.58 MHz, I didn't hear any static, otherwise I might have been able to determine where the storms were! ;-) 73 de VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:42:21 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 15-1232460/11373 Subject: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03 Hi David, Your interview looked great on the TV. It must have been an exciting storm chase. The damage in Melbourne was interesting. I imagine that the drains couldn't handle the massive rain fall. Here at Mona Vale we have just had a storm that promised to be worse than we actually got. Some great lightning though. Perhaps there is more to come. Judy Mayo +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:24:30 +1030 From: "R.Albury" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 33-1232460/11373 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03

Stargazer wrote:

...what does it mean when the lightning travels up? what are the

things that flare at the top called like a lightning tornado shooting up
from the clouds (kind of)?

<snip>

Not exactly sure on what you saw during the storm last night but maybe these
links might be useful...
http://ibis.nmt.edu/sprites/index.html
http://www.fma-research.com/Papers&presentations/spr-view-1.html

Sound like you lot over Melbourne way & surrounding areas had some fun last
night with a bit of a shower (100mm+ in 3-4 hours in some areas!?! ;)

Regs, Paul.
(Stargazer)
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer

Hi Paul :-)

It is a common belief that lightning decends from cloud to ground first, however this is not so and is in fact, the reverse.

Slow motion video shows a very faint leader ascending from the ground pole what ever that may be, including human, and the return stroke follows more or less the same path, back and forward many times and we call that the "lightning flash" and that is what we observe. The intial stroke upwards is very faint and is masked by the bright return flash. Only a video cam shows this phenomina in detail because the sequence is so quick that the human eye cannot detect it. It is also one reason that being in the open during a thunderstorm is a bad idea because one (you) could become the intial electrical pole and conducts the charge upwards. Anyone who has experience a phenominum such as "St.Elmos Fire"knows this effect well.

Hoping this helps you

Richard - Kurralta Park. Sth Australia

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From: "Steven Williams" To: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:02:10 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 86-1232460/11373 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03

Maybe this message will take a day or two to get through as well.

Re people being lightning conductors.

I have flat straight hair and on a number of occasions near a storm my hair has risen. strands of hair stand up. that makes

you realise the scale of the electric field near a thunderstorm.

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From: R.Albury

To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:54 PM

Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03

Stargazer wrote:
...what does it mean when the lightning travels up? what are the
  
things that flare at the top called like a lightning tornado shooting up
from the clouds (kind of)?
    
<snip>

Not exactly sure on what you saw during the storm last night but maybe these
links might be useful...
http://ibis.nmt.edu/sprites/index.html
http://www.fma-research.com/Papers&presentations/spr-view-1.html

Sound like you lot over Melbourne way & surrounding areas had some fun last
night with a bit of a shower (100mm+ in 3-4 hours in some areas!?! ;)

Regs, Paul.
(Stargazer)
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
Hi Paul :-)

It is a common belief that lightning decends from cloud to ground first, however this is not so and is in fact, the reverse.

Slow motion video shows a very faint leader ascending from the ground pole what ever that may be, including human, and the return stroke follows more or less the same path, back and forward many times and we call that the "lightning flash" and that is what we observe. The intial stroke upwards is very faint and is masked by the bright return flash. Only a video cam shows this phenomina in detail because the sequence is so quick that the human eye cannot detect it. It is also one reason that being in the open during a thunderstorm is a bad idea because one (you) could become the intial electrical pole and conducts the charge upwards. Anyone who has experience a phenominum such as "St.Elmos Fire"knows this effect well.

Hoping this helps you

Richard - Kurralta Park. Sth Australia

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From: "Peter Matters" To: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:04:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 145-12411/11373 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03 Message

Hi all,

I shot footage of the light show from Bendigo. It was awesome, and continued from approx. 11pm till dawn.

Cheers Peter

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Hi David.

Was wating radar EXPLODE late last night, was an awesome looking storm/s that impacted the Melb area... 88mm in 3 hours at the Viewbank/Bullen AWS is awesome. I have also read reports of over 100mm falling in other parts in those same few hours! Quite an amazing nocturnal storm!

Simon

www.canberra-wx.com

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From: Stormplanet (David Simpson)

To: Aussie Weather

Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:23 AM

Subject: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03

For anyone interested (and increibly bored!) I have the A Current Affair crew with me today and the interview goes to air tonight. Also a radio interview on 774 ABC Radio here in Melbourne around 1.45 p.m. Focusing on past 24 hours + footage etc. By the way, have had incredible weather here as everyone would know by now, will compile reports (eventually) and post a link here.

Cheers

David Simpson

www.stormplanet.com

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From: Blair Trewin To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:28:07 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 5-124160/27488 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03 > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C3B994.FFEE6DE0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi David. > Was wating radar EXPLODE late last night, was an awesome looking storm/s = > that impacted the Melb area... 88mm in 3 hours at the Viewbank/Bullen = > AWS is awesome. I have also read reports of over 100mm falling in other = > parts in those same few hours! Quite an amazing nocturnal storm! > > Simon > www.canberra-wx.com I was right in the middle of the most intense rain (at Heidelberg). I don't have a gauge myself (nowhere to put it), but several other gauges within 5km, in all directions, were in the 100-110mm range so I think it reasonable to assume that Heidelberg topped 100 too. (I have also been reminded by my colleagues that it is apparently a long-standing tradition in the Climate Analysis Section that anyone who gets 100mm has to buy the rest of the section a drink :-) The damage in Heidelberg was less extensive than in Fairfield and Northcote, probably because it's a hillier suburb which assists with drainage. I thought my own place (which is quite elevated) had got out unscathed, but got home last night to discover that some moisture had penetrated the walls and shorted out an electrical circuit, nothing too serious compared with a lot of others. The bowling club at the bottom of the gully 100m away has all its greens 5-10cm deep in mud. There were media reports yesterday of a bowling club suffering $2 million damage, but they didn't say where - not impossible it could be this one (for a damage bill of that size, presumably the walls would have had to have suffered structural damage severe enough for the building to have to be demolished). I didn't see evidence of such severe damage but then I didn't get that close. The heavy rain was almost continuous from just before midnight until about 1.50 a.m., with several separate waves of hail mixed in with the rain. Not much wind by the standards of severe thunderstorms. Those of you who are on Weatherzone will have seen this already, but if you took a reading yourself, especially if it's 50mm+, we'd appreciate it if you could send me details so we can use it to help in the post-event analysis (we'll need a location as well - Melway reference probably best). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Richard Modistach" To: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:01:56 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 4-124439/4946 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03

150mm, wow,

by the time it gets to the other side of the

world it should be up around two feet.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 3:57 PM

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The Melbourne storm was covered on NZ TV news this evening. A "once in a lifetime storm" dumped 150mm

in two hours over Melbourne's E and N suburbs. Saw footage of cars in water and flooded homes and lightning.

Cheers

Steven W Auckland

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To: Aussie Weather

Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 1:23 PM

Subject: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03

For anyone interested (and increibly bored!) I have the A Current Affair crew with me today and the interview goes to air tonight. Also a radio interview on 774 ABC Radio here in Melbourne around 1.45 p.m. Focusing on past 24 hours + footage etc. By the way, have had incredible weather here as everyone would know by now, will compile reports (eventually) and post a link here.

Cheers

David Simpson

www.stormplanet.com

From: Peter Konnecke To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:23:28 +1000 X-Mailer: EPOC Email Version 2.10 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id AAA10004 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 4-124630/1757 Subject: aus-wx: north ryde sydney A very heavy storm with high winds and dozens of cg's just passed through north ryde in sydney. at 1610 Peter +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Phill" To: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:55:05 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 26-125525/6025 Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Supercell TimeLapse Here is a brief timelapse of some of the rotation during a period of the storms life.. Its around 1mb. http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/darwinss00.avi +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dennis Cottle" To: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:11:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 44-125525/6025 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Supercell TimeLapse Well how good is that ! great capture never seen it so good . Keep it up . Dennis Cottle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phill" To: Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:55 PM Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Supercell TimeLapse > Here is a brief timelapse of some of the rotation during a period of the > storms life.. Its around 1mb. > > http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/darwinss00.avi > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:58:56 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcO6RRhR+NrTiy1SQOyU1YVo/zVx4wAJWJZg Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 64-125525/6025 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Darwin Supercell TimeLapse Awesome work Phil! Paul :) -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Phill Sent: Thursday, 4 December 2003 6:25 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Supercell TimeLapse Here is a brief timelapse of some of the rotation during a period of the storms life.. Its around 1mb. http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/darwinss00.avi +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Wright" To: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 00:12:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 77-125525/6025 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Supercell TimeLapse Gose to that you lot are fucking tossers, trying to tell me that Dariwn don't get supercells have you lot got fucking balls to say to me that the tropic's don't supercells growup you lot are a wait of time cluding the weatherzone... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Cottle" To: Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:11 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Supercell TimeLapse > Well how good is that ! > great capture never seen it so good . > Keep it up . > Dennis Cottle > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phill" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:55 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Supercell TimeLapse > > > > Here is a brief timelapse of some of the rotation during a period of the > > storms life.. Its around 1mb. > > > > http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/darwinss00.avi > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Richard Modistach" To: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 01:36:18 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 14-126142/10454 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Supercell TimeLapse hey jason, could you please terminate this illiterate bozo. regards richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Wright" To: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:42 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Supercell TimeLapse > Gose to that you lot are f***** tossers, trying to tell me that Dariwn > don't get supercells have you lot got f***** balls to say to me that the > tropic's don't supercells growup you lot are a wait of time cluding the > weatherzone... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Cottle" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:11 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Supercell TimeLapse > > > > Well how good is that ! > > great capture never seen it so good . > > Keep it up . > > Dennis Cottle > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Phill" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:55 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Supercell TimeLapse > > > > > > > Here is a brief timelapse of some of the rotation during a period of the > > > storms life.. Its around 1mb. > > > > > > http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/darwinss00.avi > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: shell01.TheWorld.com: dhart owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:38:23 -0500 From: David Hart X-X-Sender: dhart at shell01-g To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 140-125526/6025 Subject: aus-wx: Adminisrivia: supercell at iprimus.com.au The user has been unsubscribed -dkh- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 03 06:53:35 +1000 x-sender: morrowt at pop.netlink.com.au x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: tim To: , "Aussie Weather" Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 12-125534/8327 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03 Recorded 129mm for 24hrs at Bulleen. 20mm fell during afternoon storm, remainder fell Tuesday night. Was awaken at 0130hrs to a continuous display of lightning. Our outlook is poor for photography, hence no photos. Was certainly an event of a lifetime. Tomorrows Graphics ph 03 9852 3446 fax 03 9852 0710 mobile 0428 334 575 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 03 06:53:35 +1000 x-sender: morrowt at pop.netlink.com.au x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: tim To: , "Aussie Weather" Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 13-125534/8327 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03 Recorded 129mm for 24hrs at Bulleen. 20mm fell during afternoon storm, remainder fell Tuesday night. Was awaken at 0130hrs to a continuous display of lightning. Our outlook is poor for photography, hence no photos. Was certainly an event of a lifetime. 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Steven,

If you find your hair standing up near a thunderstorm, you are in imminent danger of being struck by lightning. An electric field strong enough to do this is not very far from breakdown.

John.

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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Steven Williams
Sent: Thursday, 4 December 2003 3:02 AM
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Maybe this message will take a day or two to get through as well.

Re people being lightning conductors.

I have flat straight hair and on a number of occasions near a storm my hair has risen. strands of hair stand up. that makes

you realise the scale of the electric field near a thunderstorm.

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From: R.Albury

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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:54 PM

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Stargazer wrote:

...what does it mean when the lightning travels up? what are the

things that flare at the top called like a lightning tornado shooting up from the clouds (kind of)?
<snip> Not exactly sure on what you saw during the storm last night but maybe these links might be useful... http://ibis.nmt.edu/sprites/index.html http://www.fma-research.com/Papers&presentations/spr-view-1.html Sound like you lot over Melbourne way & surrounding areas had some fun last night with a bit of a shower (100mm+ in 3-4 hours in some areas!?! ;) Regs, Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer

Hi Paul :-)

It is a common belief that lightning decends from cloud to ground first, however this is not so and is in fact, the reverse.

Slow motion video shows a very faint leader ascending from the ground pole what ever that may be, including human, and the return stroke follows more or less the same path, back and forward many times and we call that the "lightning flash" and that is what we observe. The intial stroke upwards is very faint and is masked by the bright return flash. Only a video cam shows this phenomina in detail because the sequence is so quick that the human eye cannot detect it. It is also one reason that being in the open during a thunderstorm is a bad idea because one (you) could become the intial electrical pole and conducts the charge upwards. Anyone who has experience a phenominum such as "St.Elmos Fire"knows this effect well.

Hoping this helps you

Richard - Kurralta Park. Sth Australia

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From: "Steven Williams" To: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:44:56 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 4-125549/12240 Subject: aus-wx: Lightning fatalities

Have many people been killed by lightning in Australia?

In other parts of the world people do get killed.

To my knowledge no one has been killed by lightning in NZ although you get the occasional story of people

being struck and surviving. The most common injury is to the eyes. There was even a case here in Auckland

last year of a guy holding up his shirt with a big hole in the back of it from lightning strike. The most recent

lightning strike in NZ was to a boy riding a bike a couple of months back and he needed a couple of days in hospital

to recover.

Cheers

Steven W

Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:01:46 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.8.5 X-Authenticated-Sender: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-Spam-Processed: ics.edu.hk, Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:01:46 +0800 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 4-125631/22814 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning fatalities There was an Anglican priest out in a boat fishing somewhere in the Gippsland Lakes who was killed by lightning strike on a Monday years ago ... probably first half of the 1970's. I remember reading about it in either the Yallourn Live Wire, The Morwell Advertiser, or the Latrobe Valley Express. I have survived two strikes myself. Got burned both times. First was at Dumbalk, Vic in 1969, second near Morwell, Vic in about 1973. Phil <>< Phil Smith IT Teacher - Elementary campus International Christian School, Hong Kong International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk International Christian School Web site: http://www.ics.edu.hk International Christian School Intranet: http://school.ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Steven Williams" To: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:44:56 +1300 Subject: aus-wx: Lightning fatalities > Have many people been killed by lightning in Australia? > In other parts of the world people do get killed. > To my knowledge no one has been killed by lightning in NZ although you > get the occasional story of people > being struck and surviving. The most common injury is to the eyes. > There was even a case here in Auckland > last year of a guy holding up his shirt with a big hole in the back of > it from lightning strike. The most recent > lightning strike in NZ was to a boy riding a bike a couple of months > back and he needed a couple of days in hospital > to recover. > Cheers > Steven W > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:33:27 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.8.5 X-Authenticated-Sender: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-Spam-Processed: ics.edu.hk, Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:33:27 +0800 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 4-125652/28223 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03 Bussy, is the wind which blew out the three fuses, stronger or weaker than the wind that blew the sugar out of that bloke's tea at Wonthaggi a few years ago? Could this be the beginnings of a new wind force scale? Phil <>< Phil Smith IT Teacher - Elementary campus International Christian School, Hong Kong International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk International Christian School Web site: http://www.ics.edu.hk International Christian School Intranet: http://school.ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Bussy" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:35:28 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03 > I'm not sure about the colours either. I had quite a few close strikes > on > Sunday arvo/evening up here that were purple coloured. There were that > many > strikes all around I thought I'd buggered my vision :-) > It was so windy that it blew out three fuses......... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fae Elliott" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:48 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media interviews today 3-12-03 > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I trust alot of you didnt sleep very well last night! I live in > Frankston > > and watched nearly 3 strikes every second for about an hour from 11 > last > > night, and being an amature everything I got a photo of lightning, > perfect > > storm for anyone to get a photo. The activity didnt stall until 1.30 > when > > the first lot passed around me (i think) and it all slowed down and > didnt > do > > alot but at 3 there was more lightning coming up and it was awesome. > I was > > dead tired and (cant believe it) slept through what woke my > housemates up. > > bugger. I cant wait for your reports on it all, photos, weatherzone > captures > > etc, it was so awesome. Anyway, enthusiasm aside I have a couple of > things > > for you that you may have seen. > > > > On the second floor of my house I had a view of the whole sky and > storms > > approaching...what does it mean when the lightning travels up? what > are > the > > things that flare at the top called like a lightning tornado shooting > up > > from the clouds (kind of)? did you guys ever discover why we get > green, > > orange or purple lightning? is it because of the heat of the strike? > does > > the lightning cause the hail, type, frequency? or is it something > else > that > > contributes to its size? > > > > ok well thanks for listening and you dont have to answer ill read it > in > your > > posts etc. and on your sites. > > > > your all great, thank you and im taping ACA. : ) > > > > Catherine & Belle > > in Frankston > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get less junk mail with ninemsn Premium. Click here > > http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ XAntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses via the Connexus Internet Service From: "John Woodbridge" To: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:17:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR: SPAM OK X-www.SpamTrap.net-HDR-ID: 5-126142/10454 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning fatalities

Hi Steven,

Well as a storn chaser you can be totally blase about this, most of us are or we would not get the awesome lightning photo's that have appeared in this forum recently!

The chances of being struck directly by lightning are always remote, you just have to be part of the best conductive path to ground at the instant of discharge. Having said that, most people are not killed by a direct strike, but by a close strike where they are electrocuted either by induction in the body (due to the intensity of instantaneous radio frequency components), or by current flow in the body due to instantaneous field strength between the legs, the latter being the manner in which sheep or cattle in a paddock are electrocuted en-mass by a nearby ground strike.

Many people with superficial burns to clothing, etc., who have survived, are showing the results of a close call from minor secondary arcing. But there may be some extenuating circumstances, where for example, if you are soaked to the skin, the discharge "might" pass over the body rather than through it. But this is really conjecture and has not been proven. More likely, such cases are the result of close calls. You still get one hell of an electric shock and would think for all money, that you had been directly struck.

The sheer amount of current and instantaneous voltage change in a strike bring about these circumstances. In short, it is not a risk to be taken lightly. An electric breakdown which has just chanelled through 10 kilometres or so of free air, which has a dielectric breakdown strength of about 30,000 Volts/cm, is not going to worry too much about 1cm or so insulation in one's shoes. The only good thing about it, is you probably would not know what had hit you, as you are instantly fried or blown apart. Consider this: The average lightning strike consists of several hundred thousand amperes of electric current. Your heart can be stopped by just 10 thousandths of an amp.

People are killed by lightning in Oz every year. Most recently close to me, a gent working on the roof of a steel frame for a new house in Ipswich SEQ was killed last summer, but the lightning hit the structure, not him directly. He died from heart failure due to shock as he was blown off it. He was in fact extremely unlucky, the strke was a direct anvil to ground discharge about 10kms ahead of the storm core (based on radar archive), which you rarely see. Had he been a storm chaser, he would have thought himself pretty safe listening to the still somewhat distant and far overhead rumbles... But was his hair standing on end just beforehand I wonder????

John.

>snip

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Steven Williams
Sent: Friday, 5 December 2003 2:45 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Lightning fatalities

Have many people been killed by lightning in Australia?

In other parts of the world people do get killed.

To my knowledge no one has been killed by lightning in NZ although you get the occasional story of people

being struck and surviving. The most common injury is to the eyes. There was even a case here in Auckland

last year of a guy holding up his shirt with a big hole in the back of it from lightning strike. The most recent

lightning strike in NZ was to a boy riding a bike a couple of months back and he needed a couple of days in hospital

to recover.

Cheers

Steven W

From: "Stormplanet $David Simpson$" To: "Aussie Weather" Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:38:36 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616