http://australiasevereweather.com/ XAntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses via the Connexus Internet Service at : "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 09:39:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Chas, Yes well the last week has certainly been a reality check, lol! With very dry S/SW air stream and frosty mornings around town, Winter has finally arrived. Pool temp is hovering on 14C which is comparable to last July, and the tropical herbs are now looking sick as. And lol, now there is no change in sight for this wx either. My run of minimum's at Mt. Crosby for the last 7 days are 4.7, 3.9, 3.4, 2.2, 1.7, 5.3, 4.7. with Amberley 15km's away into minuses all week. Still no visible frost on my property, but plenty in the low lying flat areas just down the road! But late winter/early spring cold snaps are a good indicator for a severe wx season later on. Regards, John W. >snip -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Chas Osborn Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2003 9:44 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warm winter Hello John Ive been away for a couple of weeks and just catching up on the emails. I have just read you comments dated 15/7/03 and Im wondering how the pool temperature is now? regards Chas Bedourie Qld ----- Original Message ----- at : "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:53 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter > Hi all, > > Indeed it has been much milder this winter than last in SEQ. Apart at one > or two fresh mornings in June (min 4.3C at Mt. Crosby) it has been frost free > and almost pleasant. June/July has been quite wet in SEQ and the > countryside is looking greener than I can ever recall for this time of year > (traditionally our 'dry' season), with a marked absence of strong westerlies > so far. > > The Poincianna trees have full leaf and are still growing new leaves, > whereas last year they were well into defoliation by mid July. There are > also green leaves still on my Bombax and Grey Teak trees, both of which are > of tropical origin and normally defoliate in the SEQ winter. My pool temp > at midnight is a good indicator of average temp, as it can only change by > 0.5C a day at best. It is currently sitting on 17.5C compared to 14C this > time last July. > > With a prognosis on the BoM's 4 day MSL outlook of continuing SE's, due to > southern drift of the subtropical ridge, nothing much is going to change in > the next few days. > > John. > >snip > > > Thanks Michael.I have not checked our records dating back to 1982 but I > think it has been usually warm so far.Having been here so long I know it can > get much colder in the next few months! > Gavin > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 18/06/2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: July Averages Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 12:04:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
July Averages for Hornsby Heights, Sydney's Northern outskirts location:
 
AVERAGE MAXIMUM: 17.8
AVERAGE MINIMUM: 4.8
RAINFALL:        32mm
 
LOWEST MAXIMUM:  11.5
HIGHEST MAXIMUM: 22.8
LOWEST MINIMUM:  -1.9
 
 
 
 
For more detailed daily records for this year and the last few years visit my website at:
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 Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 13:12:40 +1000 at : Anthony Cornelius Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John, We've had our eighth consecutive minimum under zero degrees here in Hiddenvale, at memory (and rounded), the past 8 days have been -1, -2, -3, -3, -4, -3, -2, -2...tonight could just about be the coldest of the lot too, it's a cool day (18C), dry, light winds etc...will get cold quickly tonight! On average we tend to be half to a degree colder than Amberley...but our valley seems to be a frost hollow. Last night the wind kept up though giving a warmer minimum than Amberley (-2.2C here, -2.4C at Amberley). AC John Woodbridge wrote: > > Hi Chas, > > Yes well the last week has certainly been a reality check, lol! With very > dry S/SW air stream and frosty mornings around town, Winter has finally > arrived. Pool temp is hovering on 14C which is comparable to last July, and > the tropical herbs are now looking sick as. And lol, now there is no change > in sight for this wx either. My run of minimum's at Mt. Crosby for the last > 7 days are 4.7, 3.9, 3.4, 2.2, 1.7, 5.3, 4.7. with Amberley 15km's away > into minuses all week. Still no visible frost on my property, but plenty in > the low lying flat areas just down the road! > > But late winter/early spring cold snaps are a good indicator for a severe wx > season later on. > > Regards, > John W. > > >snip > > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Chas Osborn > Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2003 9:44 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warm winter > > Hello John > > Ive been away for a couple of weeks and just catching up on the emails. > I have just read you comments dated 15/7/03 and Im wondering how the pool > temperature is now? > > regards > Chas > Bedourie Qld > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "John Woodbridge" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:53 AM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter > > > Hi all, > > > > Indeed it has been much milder this winter than last in SEQ. Apart at > one > > or two fresh mornings in June (min 4.3C at Mt. Crosby) it has been frost > free > > and almost pleasant. June/July has been quite wet in SEQ and the > > countryside is looking greener than I can ever recall for this time of > year > > (traditionally our 'dry' season), with a marked absence of strong > westerlies > > so far. > > > > The Poincianna trees have full leaf and are still growing new leaves, > > whereas last year they were well into defoliation by mid July. There are > > also green leaves still on my Bombax and Grey Teak trees, both of which > are > > of tropical origin and normally defoliate in the SEQ winter. My pool temp > > at midnight is a good indicator of average temp, as it can only change by > > 0.5C a day at best. It is currently sitting on 17.5C compared to 14C this > > time last July. > > > > With a prognosis on the BoM's 4 day MSL outlook of continuing SE's, due to > > southern drift of the subtropical ridge, nothing much is going to change > in > > the next few days. > > > > John. > > >snip > > > > > > Thanks Michael.I have not checked our records dating back to 1982 but I > > think it has been usually warm so far.Having been here so long I know it > can > > get much colder in the next few months! > > Gavin > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 18/06/2003 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) 0417 759 304 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:17:53 +1000 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) Thread-Index: AcNXwCtceOg2Jb4+ToilMrS168OnJgAGiC5w at : "James Chambers" To: X-MIME-Autoconverted: at quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id XAA28112 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John, all It sure has been cold early recently! We've had light frosts most mornings, and a "more solid" frost on Wednesday. My minimum temps for the last 6 days (by memory): 2.4C, 2.7C, 2.6C, -1.4C (Wed), -0.3C, 0.3C. Keep in mind that I live in a valley just south of Brisbane. The -1.4C temp was the coldest I've ever recorded and there was widespread frost. The Brisbane Golf Club at Rocklea had heavy frost and was quite a sight! James PS: Was 3C at 11pm last night and I was disappointed with our 0.3C minimum! -----Original Message----- at : John Woodbridge [mailto:jrw at pixelcom.net] Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 9:40 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) Hi Chas, Yes well the last week has certainly been a reality check, lol! With very dry S/SW air stream and frosty mornings around town, Winter has finally arrived. Pool temp is hovering on 14C which is comparable to last July, and the tropical herbs are now looking sick as. And lol, now there is no change in sight for this wx either. My run of minimum's at Mt. Crosby for the last 7 days are 4.7, 3.9, 3.4, 2.2, 1.7, 5.3, 4.7. with Amberley 15km's away into minuses all week. Still no visible frost on my property, but plenty in the low lying flat areas just down the road! But late winter/early spring cold snaps are a good indicator for a severe wx season later on. Regards, John W. >snip -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Chas Osborn Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2003 9:44 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warm winter Hello John Ive been away for a couple of weeks and just catching up on the emails. I have just read you comments dated 15/7/03 and Im wondering how the pool temperature is now? regards Chas Bedourie Qld ----- Original Message ----- at : "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:53 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter > Hi all, > > Indeed it has been much milder this winter than last in SEQ. Apart at one > or two fresh mornings in June (min 4.3C at Mt. Crosby) it has been frost free > and almost pleasant. June/July has been quite wet in SEQ and the > countryside is looking greener than I can ever recall for this time of year > (traditionally our 'dry' season), with a marked absence of strong westerlies > so far. > > The Poincianna trees have full leaf and are still growing new leaves, > whereas last year they were well into defoliation by mid July. There are > also green leaves still on my Bombax and Grey Teak trees, both of which are > of tropical origin and normally defoliate in the SEQ winter. My pool temp > at midnight is a good indicator of average temp, as it can only change by > 0.5C a day at best. It is currently sitting on 17.5C compared to 14C this > time last July. > > With a prognosis on the BoM's 4 day MSL outlook of continuing SE's, due to > southern drift of the subtropical ridge, nothing much is going to change in > the next few days. > > John. > >snip > > > Thanks Michael.I have not checked our records dating back to 1982 but I > think it has been usually warm so far.Having been here so long I know it can > get much colder in the next few months! > Gavin jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: July data--Kings Langley Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:21:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
My observations for July are at

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 XAntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses via the Connexus Internet Service at : "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 14:13:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi James, It is interesting to note the forest & hills effects coming into play, your 3C at 11:00pm last night corresponds to about 8C at Mt Crosby, which fell to 7.4C by 1:00am which is when I recorded my obs. There was a light southerly breeze just stirring the leaves which was enough to mix the air, hence the min of a relatively mild 4.7C, and by 7:30am it was back up to 6.9C. Our 1.7C on Thursday morning is the second coldest I have recorded after -0.1C in last year's frost. The dew point at Amberley is currently -2.3C on the Brisbane obs, so I would expect a min around that tonight or just below at that location. Only a light SW breeze blowing at present. Regards, John W. >snip -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of James Chambers Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 1:18 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) Hi John, all It sure has been cold early recently! We've had light frosts most mornings, and a "more solid" frost on Wednesday. My minimum temps for the last 6 days (by memory): 2.4C, 2.7C, 2.6C, -1.4C (Wed), -0.3C, 0.3C. Keep in mind that I live in a valley just south of Brisbane. The -1.4C temp was the coldest I've ever recorded and there was widespread frost. The Brisbane Golf Club at Rocklea had heavy frost and was quite a sight! James PS: Was 3C at 11pm last night and I was disappointed with our 0.3C minimum! -----Original Message----- at : John Woodbridge [mailto:jrw at pixelcom.net] Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 9:40 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) Hi Chas, Yes well the last week has certainly been a reality check, lol! With very dry S/SW air stream and frosty mornings around town, Winter has finally arrived. Pool temp is hovering on 14C which is comparable to last July, and the tropical herbs are now looking sick as. And lol, now there is no change in sight for this wx either. My run of minimum's at Mt. Crosby for the last 7 days are 4.7, 3.9, 3.4, 2.2, 1.7, 5.3, 4.7. with Amberley 15km's away into minuses all week. Still no visible frost on my property, but plenty in the low lying flat areas just down the road! But late winter/early spring cold snaps are a good indicator for a severe wx season later on. Regards, John W. >snip -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Chas Osborn Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2003 9:44 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warm winter Hello John Ive been away for a couple of weeks and just catching up on the emails. I have just read you comments dated 15/7/03 and Im wondering how the pool temperature is now? regards Chas Bedourie Qld ----- Original Message ----- at : "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:53 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter > Hi all, > > Indeed it has been much milder this winter than last in SEQ. Apart at one > or two fresh mornings in June (min 4.3C at Mt. Crosby) it has been frost free > and almost pleasant. June/July has been quite wet in SEQ and the > countryside is looking greener than I can ever recall for this time of year > (traditionally our 'dry' season), with a marked absence of strong westerlies > so far. > > The Poincianna trees have full leaf and are still growing new leaves, > whereas last year they were well into defoliation by mid July. There are > also green leaves still on my Bombax and Grey Teak trees, both of which are > of tropical origin and normally defoliate in the SEQ winter. My pool temp > at midnight is a good indicator of average temp, as it can only change by > 0.5C a day at best. It is currently sitting on 17.5C compared to 14C this > time last July. > > With a prognosis on the BoM's 4 day MSL outlook of continuing SE's, due to > southern drift of the subtropical ridge, nothing much is going to change in > the next few days. > > John. > >snip > > > Thanks Michael.I have not checked our records dating back to 1982 but I > think it has been usually warm so far.Having been here so long I know it can > get much colder in the next few months! > Gavin jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 18/06/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 18/06/2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Photo gallery update : 1999 - 2003 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:59:04 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Somewhere along the line i skipped one of the CD's i had everything backed up on. I've added another page to the gallery - page 9 : http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/ben/index_09.shtml A bit of everything there really (most taken in the second half of 2001 with an old digi) ... fires, floods, big waves, storm damage and my favourite updraft shot/scene - this one at NE NSW : http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/ben/221201_05.shtml One of the many times i wished i had a video camera with a time lapse function. Luckily that storm was offshore. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 18:01:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 7 records broken this morning in Qld according to the BoM! 4 of them being the lowest ever recorded for the particular station. at the BoM site : WEATHER HIGHLIGHTS Seven new record low minimum temperatures for August were set overnight at, Bowen [4.6], Emerald [1], Barcaldine [-0.3], Baralaba [-0.6], Blackall [-3.2], Thangool [-3.3] and Dalby [-6.2]. Of these Emerald, Dalby, Thangool and Blackall also set new annual records for lowest minimum temperature with Blackall also setting a record when compared to the previous township site. ....brrrr ----- Original Message ----- at : "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:13 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) > Hi James, > > It is interesting to note the forest & hills effects coming into play, your > 3C at 11:00pm last night corresponds to about 8C at Mt Crosby, which fell to > 7.4C by 1:00am which is when I recorded my obs. There was a light southerly > breeze just stirring the leaves which was enough to mix the air, hence the > min of a relatively mild 4.7C, and by 7:30am it was back up to 6.9C. > > Our 1.7C on Thursday morning is the second coldest I have recorded > after -0.1C in last year's frost. > > The dew point at Amberley is currently -2.3C on the Brisbane obs, so I would > expect a min around that tonight or just below at that location. > > Only a light SW breeze blowing at present. > > Regards, > John W. > > >snip > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of James > Chambers > Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 1:18 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) > > > Hi John, all > > It sure has been cold early recently! We've had light frosts most > mornings, and a "more solid" frost on Wednesday. My minimum temps for > the last 6 days (by memory): 2.4C, 2.7C, 2.6C, -1.4C (Wed), -0.3C, 0.3C. > Keep in mind that I live in a valley just south of Brisbane. > > The -1.4C temp was the coldest I've ever recorded and there was > widespread frost. The Brisbane Golf Club at Rocklea had heavy frost and > was quite a sight! > > James > PS: Was 3C at 11pm last night and I was disappointed with our 0.3C > minimum! > > -----Original Message----- > at : John Woodbridge [mailto:jrw at pixelcom.net] > Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 9:40 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) > > Hi Chas, > > Yes well the last week has certainly been a reality check, lol! With > very > dry S/SW air stream and frosty mornings around town, Winter has finally > arrived. Pool temp is hovering on 14C which is comparable to last July, > and > the tropical herbs are now looking sick as. And lol, now there is no > change > in sight for this wx either. My run of minimum's at Mt. Crosby for the > last > 7 days are 4.7, 3.9, 3.4, 2.2, 1.7, 5.3, 4.7. with Amberley 15km's away > into minuses all week. Still no visible frost on my property, but > plenty in > the low lying flat areas just down the road! > > But late winter/early spring cold snaps are a good indicator for a > severe wx > season later on. > > Regards, > John W. > > >snip > > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Chas Osborn > Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2003 9:44 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warm winter > > > Hello John > > Ive been away for a couple of weeks and just catching up on the emails. > I have just read you comments dated 15/7/03 and Im wondering how the > pool > temperature is now? > > regards > Chas > Bedourie Qld > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "John Woodbridge" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:53 AM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter > > > > Hi all, > > > > Indeed it has been much milder this winter than last in SEQ. Apart > at > one > > or two fresh mornings in June (min 4.3C at Mt. Crosby) it has been > frost > free > > and almost pleasant. June/July has been quite wet in SEQ and the > > countryside is looking greener than I can ever recall for this time of > year > > (traditionally our 'dry' season), with a marked absence of strong > westerlies > > so far. > > > > The Poincianna trees have full leaf and are still growing new leaves, > > whereas last year they were well into defoliation by mid July. There > are > > also green leaves still on my Bombax and Grey Teak trees, both of > which > are > > of tropical origin and normally defoliate in the SEQ winter. My pool > temp > > at midnight is a good indicator of average temp, as it can only change > by > > 0.5C a day at best. It is currently sitting on 17.5C compared to 14C > this > > time last July. > > > > With a prognosis on the BoM's 4 day MSL outlook of continuing SE's, > due to > > southern drift of the subtropical ridge, nothing much is going to > change > in > > the next few days. > > > > John. > > >snip > > > > > > Thanks Michael.I have not checked our records dating back to 1982 but > I > > think it has been usually warm so far.Having been here so long I know > it > can > > get much colder in the next few months! > > Gavin > jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 18/06/2003 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 18/06/2003 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 20:10:20 +1000 at : Chas Osborn Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Everyone Mixing of the air has kept our temps up and avoiding frosts. My lowest temp in the last week was 4.1C. To the West and East there have been temps below 0C. (Alice Springs, Longreach) We seem to be located where high pressure systems produce a light breeze that blows all night. Chas Bedourie Qld ----- Original Message ----- at : "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:13 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) > Hi James, > > It is interesting to note the forest & hills effects coming into play, your > 3C at 11:00pm last night corresponds to about 8C at Mt Crosby, which fell to > 7.4C by 1:00am which is when I recorded my obs. There was a light southerly > breeze just stirring the leaves which was enough to mix the air, hence the > min of a relatively mild 4.7C, and by 7:30am it was back up to 6.9C. > > Our 1.7C on Thursday morning is the second coldest I have recorded > after -0.1C in last year's frost. > > The dew point at Amberley is currently -2.3C on the Brisbane obs, so I would > expect a min around that tonight or just below at that location. > > Only a light SW breeze blowing at present. > > Regards, > John W. > > >snip > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of James > Chambers > Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 1:18 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) > > > Hi John, all > > It sure has been cold early recently! We've had light frosts most > mornings, and a "more solid" frost on Wednesday. My minimum temps for > the last 6 days (by memory): 2.4C, 2.7C, 2.6C, -1.4C (Wed), -0.3C, 0.3C. > Keep in mind that I live in a valley just south of Brisbane. > > The -1.4C temp was the coldest I've ever recorded and there was > widespread frost. The Brisbane Golf Club at Rocklea had heavy frost and > was quite a sight! > > James > PS: Was 3C at 11pm last night and I was disappointed with our 0.3C > minimum! > > -----Original Message----- > at : John Woodbridge [mailto:jrw at pixelcom.net] > Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 9:40 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter (not) > > Hi Chas, > > Yes well the last week has certainly been a reality check, lol! With > very > dry S/SW air stream and frosty mornings around town, Winter has finally > arrived. Pool temp is hovering on 14C which is comparable to last July, > and > the tropical herbs are now looking sick as. And lol, now there is no > change > in sight for this wx either. My run of minimum's at Mt. Crosby for the > last > 7 days are 4.7, 3.9, 3.4, 2.2, 1.7, 5.3, 4.7. with Amberley 15km's away > into minuses all week. Still no visible frost on my property, but > plenty in > the low lying flat areas just down the road! > > But late winter/early spring cold snaps are a good indicator for a > severe wx > season later on. > > Regards, > John W. > > >snip > > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Chas Osborn > Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2003 9:44 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warm winter > > > Hello John > > Ive been away for a couple of weeks and just catching up on the emails. > I have just read you comments dated 15/7/03 and Im wondering how the > pool > temperature is now? > > regards > Chas > Bedourie Qld > > ----- Original Message ----- > at : "John Woodbridge" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:53 AM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warm winter > > > > Hi all, > > > > Indeed it has been much milder this winter than last in SEQ. Apart > at > one > > or two fresh mornings in June (min 4.3C at Mt. Crosby) it has been > frost > free > > and almost pleasant. June/July has been quite wet in SEQ and the > > countryside is looking greener than I can ever recall for this time of > year > > (traditionally our 'dry' season), with a marked absence of strong > westerlies > > so far. > > > > The Poincianna trees have full leaf and are still growing new leaves, > > whereas last year they were well into defoliation by mid July. There > are > > also green leaves still on my Bombax and Grey Teak trees, both of > which > are > > of tropical origin and normally defoliate in the SEQ winter. My pool > temp > > at midnight is a good indicator of average temp, as it can only change > by > > 0.5C a day at best. It is currently sitting on 17.5C compared to 14C > this > > time last July. > > > > With a prognosis on the BoM's 4 day MSL outlook of continuing SE's, > due to > > southern drift of the subtropical ridge, nothing much is going to > change > in > > the next few days. > > > > John. > > >snip > > > > > > Thanks Michael.I have not checked our records dating back to 1982 but > I > > think it has been usually warm so far.Having been here so long I know > it > can > > get much colder in the next few months! > > Gavin > jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 18/06/2003 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 18/06/2003 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: July, 2003: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 14:32:50 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Howdy Ya'll: Heres the weather in Mena, Arkansas for July, 2003:
 
Avg. High: 89.4F(31.8C)
Avg. Low: 68.3F(20.1C)
         Highest: 98F(36.6C) July 29
         Lowest: 60F(15.5C) July 25
Rain for July: 4.60"(116.8mm)
                     (-0.30"/-7.6mm)
Rain for Year: 25.40"(645.1mm)
                     (-7.10"/-180.3mm)
8 Raindays in July.
 
Heres hoping ALL have a Safe, Happy, Prosperous & Blessed Month of August!
Yours~~~David Powell
 Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 07:51:30 +1000 at : Peter Subject: RE: aus-wx: Is it smoke? To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, In the loop, the plume moved in at well off the coast. Watch carefully. Cheers Peter -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jane ONeill Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 17:29 To: Aussie-wx Subject: aus-wx: Is it smoke? A curious plume has appeared over the northern West Australian interior which extends westward. If it's smoke it would be a 'granddaddy' fire of laaaarge proportions, or is it a very thin cirrus plume - it's difficult to identify especially if you check these 2 loops... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802ausmovie.gif http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802bomirlp.gif (large file) any smoke experts out there?? Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne aussky at iprimus.com.au Australian Sky & Weather http://www.australianskynweather.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Is it smoke? Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 17:28:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A curious plume has appeared over the northern West Australian interior which extends westward. If it's smoke it would be a 'granddaddy' fire of laaaarge proportions, or is it a very thin cirrus plume - it's difficult to identify especially if you check these 2 loops... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802ausmovie.gif http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802bomirlp.gif (large file) any smoke experts out there?? Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne aussky at iprimus.com.au Australian Sky & Weather http://www.australianskynweather.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Is it smoke? Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 09:42:02 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It coincides with a pronounced vorticity max at 500hPa and the entrance to the subtropical jet. Check the current COLA anals at http://grads.iges.org/pix/aus.00hr.html. It has also moved slowly northwards, as has the vorticity max and jet entrance. Methinks it is cirrus forming along some type of discontinuity line. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Peter > Sent: Saturday, 02 August, 2003 21:52 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Is it smoke? > > > Hi all, > In the loop, the plume moved in at well off the coast. Watch > carefully. > Cheers Peter > > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jane ONeill > Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 17:29 > To: Aussie-wx > Subject: aus-wx: Is it smoke? > > A curious plume has appeared over the northern West Australian interior > which extends westward. If it's smoke it would be a 'granddaddy' fire > of laaaarge proportions, or is it a very thin cirrus plume - it's > difficult to identify especially if you check these 2 loops... > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802ausmovie.gif > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802bomirlp.gif (large file) > > any smoke experts out there?? > > Cheers, > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > aussky at iprimus.com.au > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.australianskynweather.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is it smoke? Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:45:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane I saw this feature this morning i was thinking, it look a bit odd. The time lapse shows the feature edging northward and appears a little like a gulf cloud line....?? The cloud motion through the line gives the appearance that it is flowing at the east to the west. The mechanism involved though, seems something else and I suspect the possibilty of a gravity wave of soughts?. the line dissipated later in the day....surface humidity in this area will be very low, the other odd setup is the appearance of the line on the water vapour this would then suggest an upper level feature? however, the upper winds above 500hpa do not surport the wesward movement of cloud/smoke patches. Further west there is an increase in the trade wind speed west of Broome....lots of questions any gravity wave experts out there? regards Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- at : "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:28 PM Subject: aus-wx: Is it smoke? > A curious plume has appeared over the northern West Australian interior > which extends westward. If it's smoke it would be a 'granddaddy' fire > of laaaarge proportions, or is it a very thin cirrus plume - it's > difficult to identify especially if you check these 2 loops... > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802ausmovie.gif > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802bomirlp.gif (large file) > > any smoke experts out there?? > > Cheers, > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > aussky at iprimus.com.au > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.australianskynweather.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Is it smoke? Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:46:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane, An interesting loop. at running the CIMS animation at http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/shemi/movies/gmsswirnhc/gmsswirn hcjava.html various speeds in loop mode, my guess is it marks the passage of a mid level (around 500hpa) vorticity trough which was passing through the area at the time. The trough axis probably encountered a very shallow moist layer around 400hpa to 500hpa as it passed through which made it visible on the sat pix. This very shallow moist (or at least "less dry") layer shows up on this morning's Broome and Port Headland soundings. The vorticity analysis at 00z this morning at http://grads.iges.org/pix/aus1.00hr.gif shows a vorticity trough moving through the area of interest leading me to my conclusion. Presumably, the passage of the trough axis created just enough vertical motion to form some cloud at that level. The plume becomes pretty much simultaneously visible along a line at northern WA right out to about 1,000km off-shore into the Indian Ocean - that would tend to rule out smoke at a fire. I would be interested in others thoughts.. Patrick -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 5:29 PM To: Aussie-wx Subject: aus-wx: Is it smoke? A curious plume has appeared over the northern West Australian interior which extends westward. If it's smoke it would be a 'granddaddy' fire of laaaarge proportions, or is it a very thin cirrus plume - it's difficult to identify especially if you check these 2 loops... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802ausmovie.gif http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802bomirlp.gif (large file) any smoke experts out there?? Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne aussky at iprimus.com.au Australian Sky & Weather http://www.australianskynweather.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Question? Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 10:13:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Can anyone explain to me why I recorded a warm 5.3 degrees here at Hornsby Heights last night when everyone else recorded much colder temperatures? I usually record around the same temperature as Gosford, even colder sometimes as I'm in a steep valley. But Gosford & Penrith recorded 3 degrees & Parramatta & Liverpool recorded colder than me which I have never seen before?? Damian 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "n" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is it smoke? Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 18:08:45 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4922.1500 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Seen your name popping up heaps and u take good pics too so thought id say Hi! The smoke........ looks close to hals gap there. You might try caling the halls creek pub for a quick answer ( at work of course). at looking at a lot of sat pics of fires lately it could be one hard to tell more like an explosion quick and sharo n localised than a bushfire. Might have been the military playing. Bloody well spotted anyway you should get a job with asio. cheers leo mordialloc ----- Original Message ----- at : "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 12:28 AM Subject: aus-wx: Is it smoke? > A curious plume has appeared over the northern West Australian interior > which extends westward. If it's smoke it would be a 'granddaddy' fire > of laaaarge proportions, or is it a very thin cirrus plume - it's > difficult to identify especially if you check these 2 loops... > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802ausmovie.gif > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802bomirlp.gif (large file) > > any smoke experts out there?? > > Cheers, > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > aussky at iprimus.com.au > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.australianskynweather.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "n" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is it smoke? Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 18:30:15 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4922.1500 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, I think it must be a trick of the radar coz theres no way a cloud fron the sea is gunna narow like that. cheers leo ----- Original Message ----- at : "Peter" To: Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 2:51 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Is it smoke? > Hi all, > In the loop, the plume moved in at well off the coast. Watch > carefully. > Cheers Peter > > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jane ONeill > Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 17:29 > To: Aussie-wx > Subject: aus-wx: Is it smoke? > > A curious plume has appeared over the northern West Australian interior > which extends westward. If it's smoke it would be a 'granddaddy' fire > of laaaarge proportions, or is it a very thin cirrus plume - it's > difficult to identify especially if you check these 2 loops... > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802ausmovie.gif > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802bomirlp.gif (large file) > > any smoke experts out there?? > > Cheers, > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > aussky at iprimus.com.au > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.australianskynweather.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:08:18 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: US (memphis) storms 22-07-2003 at : Dale Small To: Aussie Weather X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at overflow.net.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. I am trying to source some information on the out break that occoured on the 22nf of July 2003. Basically, i am after mslp charts, any avn plots at CAPE, LI's through to vorticity charts, jetstream charts, moisture levels, any archived doppler radars and like for the Mississippi/Tennesee area on the night of the 22nd. A couple of friends would like to know what happened on that particular night, basically a suburb of Memphis was destroyed by high velocity winds, i have done a quick search through the NWS archives and news reports but i cannot seem to find the data i am looking for (i am most likely looking in the wrong place hence me popping the question to you guys). What i am seeking, is if the damage was actually tornadic and not the result of a mere "severe thunderstorm", as there were apparently tornados in the vicinity. Any help would be sincerely appreciated as i will have to forward it onto the relevant people. Kind regards. Dale +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:17:50 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at : Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: US (memphis) storms 22-07-2003 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dale, This is the report of severe weather events very few tornadoes reported on the period that woudl cover the period you have stated - particularly around the Memphis area and certainly not the exciting style outbreaks suggested by US standards http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/030721_rpts.html http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/030722_rpts.html So mostly wind and hail reports. I am wondering if this is the day when As to data, sorry I have none for the day. Jimmy Deguara At 01:08 PM 4/8/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi all. > >I am trying to source some information on the out break that occoured on the >22nf of July 2003. Basically, i am after mslp charts, any avn plots at >CAPE, LI's through to vorticity charts, jetstream charts, moisture levels, >any archived doppler radars and like for the Mississippi/Tennesee area on >the night of the 22nd. > >A couple of friends would like to know what happened on that particular >night, basically a suburb of Memphis was destroyed by high velocity winds, i >have done a quick search through the NWS archives and news reports but i >cannot seem to find the data i am looking for (i am most likely looking in >the wrong place hence me popping the question to you guys). > >What i am seeking, is if the damage was actually tornadic and not the result >of a mere "severe thunderstorm", as there were apparently tornados in the >vicinity. > >Any help would be sincerely appreciated as i will have to forward it onto >the relevant people. > >Kind regards. >Dale > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.136.174.20] X-Originating-Email: [dr_copious at hotmail.com] at : "Brendon Simmons" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: US (memphis) storms 22-07-2003 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 19:22:42 +0930 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2003 09:52:42.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[25F520F0:01C35A6E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I found some archived reflectivity radar images...but it's only a nationwide mosaic...and the quality zoomed is not too great. You can choose the day and time. Most images are hourly i think. http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/wwcgi.dll?WWNEXRAD~Images2 Brendon > >Dale, > >This is the report of severe weather events very few tornadoes reported on >the period that woudl cover the period you have stated - particularly >around the Memphis area and certainly not the exciting style outbreaks >suggested by US standards > >http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/030721_rpts.html > >http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/030722_rpts.html > >So mostly wind and hail reports. I am wondering if this is the day when > >As to data, sorry I have none for the day. > >Jimmy Deguara > >At 01:08 PM 4/8/2003 +1000, you wrote: >>Hi all. >> >>I am trying to source some information on the out break that occoured on >>the >>22nf of July 2003. Basically, i am after mslp charts, any avn plots at >>CAPE, LI's through to vorticity charts, jetstream charts, moisture levels, >>any archived doppler radars and like for the Mississippi/Tennesee area on >>the night of the 22nd. >> >>A couple of friends would like to know what happened on that particular >>night, basically a suburb of Memphis was destroyed by high velocity winds, >>i >>have done a quick search through the NWS archives and news reports but i >>cannot seem to find the data i am looking for (i am most likely looking in >>the wrong place hence me popping the question to you guys). >> >>What i am seeking, is if the damage was actually tornadic and not the >>result >>of a mere "severe thunderstorm", as there were apparently tornados in the >>vicinity. >> >>Any help would be sincerely appreciated as i will have to forward it onto >>the relevant people. >> >>Kind regards. >>Dale >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail >>to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Brendon Simmons Australian Severe Weather Association - www.severeweather.asn.au _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 23:24:29 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: US (memphis) storms 22-07-2003 at : Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at overflow.net.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thankyou both Jimmy and Brendan for the replys. Jimmy, yesterday i downloaded the report at the 22nd at the NWS archives however the day(s) prelude are also of interest, studying them indeed it appears more hail and wind related damage in the areas affected. The reason for this is that a couple of friends suffered damage during that night and are unsure if the NWS got it right in regards to warnings etc and are unsure if they were actually hit by a tornado. at what i have recieved so far i would attribute the damage to the specified area as caused by a very severe microburst, not tornadic wind damage, hence me trying to find all possible info i can. Brendans reflectivity images were a help, thankyou however i will need to dig deeper, i must state here and now i am NOT out to prove someone wrong or right, i have no reason to believe the NWS were not that bad they would fail to put out a warning as there is such a successful and active network of chasers, dopplers and the like, Jimmy would know about. This is purely for my own interest, that of Missy and a couple of others. Time will prevail. Thankyou for your help, both of you, and to those without running through the list here. Sincere regards Dale. on 04/08/2003 19:52, Brendon Simmons at dr_copious at hotmail.com wrote: > I found some archived reflectivity radar images...but it's only a nationwide > mosaic...and the quality zoomed is not too great. > > You can choose the day and time. Most images are hourly i think. > > http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/wwcgi.dll?WWNEXRAD~Images2 > > Brendon > >> >> Dale, >> >> This is the report of severe weather events very few tornadoes reported on >> the period that woudl cover the period you have stated - particularly >> around the Memphis area and certainly not the exciting style outbreaks >> suggested by US standards >> >> http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/030721_rpts.html >> >> http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/030722_rpts.html >> >> So mostly wind and hail reports. I am wondering if this is the day when >> >> As to data, sorry I have none for the day. >> >> Jimmy Deguara >> >> At 01:08 PM 4/8/2003 +1000, you wrote: >>> Hi all. >>> >>> I am trying to source some information on the out break that occoured on >>> the >>> 22nf of July 2003. Basically, i am after mslp charts, any avn plots at >>> CAPE, LI's through to vorticity charts, jetstream charts, moisture levels, >>> any archived doppler radars and like for the Mississippi/Tennesee area on >>> the night of the 22nd. >>> >>> A couple of friends would like to know what happened on that particular >>> night, basically a suburb of Memphis was destroyed by high velocity winds, >>> i >>> have done a quick search through the NWS archives and news reports but i >>> cannot seem to find the data i am looking for (i am most likely looking in >>> the wrong place hence me popping the question to you guys). >>> >>> What i am seeking, is if the damage was actually tornadic and not the >>> result >>> of a mere "severe thunderstorm", as there were apparently tornados in the >>> vicinity. >>> >>> Any help would be sincerely appreciated as i will have to forward it onto >>> the relevant people. >>> >>> Kind regards. >>> Dale >>> >>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>> To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail >>> to:majordomo at world.std.com >>> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>> message. >>> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > Brendon Simmons > > Australian Severe Weather Association - www.severeweather.asn.au > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.194.19.122] X-Originating-Email: [jimboharr at hotmail.com] at : "James Harris" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Question? Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:58:16 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2003 21:58:17.0843 (UTC) FILETIME=[82F88430:01C35AD3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Damian, Not sure if it is the reason why however I noticed last night that we (Im in Hornsby) had a alot of left over smoke at the burning off they were doing north of Hornsby on the weekend. On the Sunday night looking at the moon you could see the haze before cloud cover came across later in the night. I would say that a combination of the two would have prevented alot of the heat at escaping into the atmosphere hence the warmer temps. Cheers, James ----- Original Message ----- at : "Damian" To: Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:13 AM Subject: aus-wx: Question? > Can anyone explain to me why I recorded a warm 5.3 degrees here at Hornsby > Heights last night when everyone else recorded much colder temperatures? > I usually record around the same temperature as Gosford, even colder > sometimes as I'm in a steep valley. But Gosford & Penrith recorded 3 degrees > & Parramatta & Liverpool recorded colder than me which I have never seen > before?? > > > Damian > 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "n" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is it smoke? Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 17:08:53 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4922.1500 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Could an 8 engined B52 flying out of Tindall cause such a pattern? ----- Original Message ----- at : "Patrick Tobin" To: Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 2:46 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Is it smoke? > Hi Jane, > > An interesting loop. > > at running the CIMS animation at > http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/shemi/movies/gmsswirnhc/gmsswirn > hcjava.html various speeds in loop mode, my guess is it marks the passage of > a mid level (around 500hpa) vorticity trough which was passing through the > area at the time. The trough axis probably encountered a very shallow moist > layer around 400hpa to 500hpa as it passed through which made it visible on > the sat pix. This very shallow moist (or at least "less dry") layer shows up > on this morning's Broome and Port Headland soundings. > > The vorticity analysis at 00z this morning at > http://grads.iges.org/pix/aus1.00hr.gif shows a vorticity trough moving > through the area of interest leading me to my conclusion. Presumably, the > passage of the trough axis created just enough vertical motion to form some > cloud at that level. > > The plume becomes pretty much simultaneously visible along a line at > northern WA right out to about 1,000km off-shore into the Indian Ocean - > that would tend to rule out smoke at a fire. > > I would be interested in others thoughts.. > > Patrick > > > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill > Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 5:29 PM > To: Aussie-wx > Subject: aus-wx: Is it smoke? > > > A curious plume has appeared over the northern West Australian interior > which extends westward. If it's smoke it would be a 'granddaddy' fire > of laaaarge proportions, or is it a very thin cirrus plume - it's > difficult to identify especially if you check these 2 loops... > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802ausmovie.gif > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Aug03/0802bomirlp.gif (large file) > > any smoke experts out there?? > > Cheers, > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > aussky at iprimus.com.au > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.australianskynweather.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie-Wx" Subject: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:16:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
Well is wasn't really forecast, but i have just awoke to the symphony of the sky, every few seconds the lovely crack whip sounds out, letting me enjoy the rude wakeup! a few spits of rain here so far and some strong wind also. Only problem is that it isn't photogenic at all, being embeded in StCu.
 
As i type the whole thing has disapated, and its starting to get brighter outside, bugger!
 
IDN26200
ACT SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
CANBERRA METEOROLOGICAL OFFICE
Issued at 1229 on Tuesday the 5th of August 2003
A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE has been issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
for the ACT including Canberra.
Thunderstorms are currently located in a line along the western border of
the ACT. These thunderstorms are moving east. Severe thunderstorms are
forecast to affect Canberra and other areas of the ACT within the next two
hours.  These thunderstorms may bring large hailstones and damaging winds.
This advice is valid until 3 PM and should not be used after this time.
The ACT EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should:
  put vehicles under cover or cover them with blankets
  move indoors away at windows
During and after the storm people should:
  take extreme care when driving
  beware of fallen trees and power lines
  keep away at creeks and drains as you may be swept away
  shelter in the strongest part of a building [eg. bathroom or basement]
Do not use the telephone during the storm. If your house is damaged contact
the ACT Emergency Service on 6207-8455 for emergency assistance.
TV Crawl: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current in the ACT until 3pm
MEDIA PLEASE NOTE: This advice message is valid until 3pm
The Bureau of Meteorology and ACT Emergency Service Bureau would appreciate
it  being broadcast regularly until this time
 

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 X-Originating-IP: [203.54.207.187] X-Originating-Email: [mrcenterprises at hotmail.com] at : "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03 Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 20:19:01 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2003 10:19:01.0581 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD80BFD0:01C35B3A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Simon and list members, I was teaching at Wanniassa when the storm started around 1pm lots of lightning and thunder with two strikes in near area maybe a mobile phone tower.We have had very strong Westerly tonight gusting to 76 km /hr at WNW at 1815 (6.15 pm) average winds at times around 50-60 Km /hr Seems to be easing in past half hour Gavin SSWW Gilmore A.C.T. > at : "Simon Angell" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: "Aussie-Wx" >Subject: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03 >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:16:51 +1000 > >Hi all. >Well is wasn't really forecast, but i have just awoke to the symphony of >the sky, every few seconds the lovely crack whip sounds out, letting me >enjoy the rude wakeup! a few spits of rain here so far and some strong wind >also. Only problem is that it isn't photogenic at all, being embeded in >StCu. > >As i type the whole thing has disapated, and its starting to get brighter >outside, bugger! > >IDN26200 >ACT SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE >TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST >BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY >CANBERRA METEOROLOGICAL OFFICE >Issued at 1229 on Tuesday the 5th of August 2003 >A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE has been issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY >for the ACT including Canberra. >Thunderstorms are currently located in a line along the western border of >the ACT. These thunderstorms are moving east. Severe thunderstorms are >forecast to affect Canberra and other areas of the ACT within the next two >hours. These thunderstorms may bring large hailstones and damaging winds. >This advice is valid until 3 PM and should not be used after this time. >The ACT EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should: > put vehicles under cover or cover them with blankets > move indoors away at windows >During and after the storm people should: > take extreme care when driving > beware of fallen trees and power lines > keep away at creeks and drains as you may be swept away > shelter in the strongest part of a building [eg. bathroom or basement] >Do not use the telephone during the storm. If your house is damaged contact >the ACT Emergency Service on 6207-8455 for emergency assistance. >TV Crawl: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current in the ACT until 3pm >MEDIA PLEASE NOTE: This advice message is valid until 3pm >The Bureau of Meteorology and ACT Emergency Service Bureau would appreciate >it being broadcast regularly until this time > >Cheers >==---==---==---==---==---==---==---== >Simon Angell >Canberra, ACT >Canberra Weather: >www.canberra-wx.com >wap service: >http://wap.canberra-wx.com >==---==---==---==---==---==---==---== >Proud member of the >Australian Severe Weather Association. >www.severeweather.asn.au > >==---==---==---==---==---==---==---== > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Scanned with AVG and NAV for Win2k >with the very latest Virus definition files. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 24/7/2003 > _________________________________________________________________ ninemsn Extra Storage comes with McAfee Virus Scanning - to keep your Hotmail account and PC safe. Click here http://join.msn.com/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 22:47:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I also enjoyed today's storms - got a repeat around 5-6pm around the Deakin area. Gavin, I agreed with your comments on the radio this morning re the fires and warnings (or lack thereof). It was pretty clear to me on the Friday and certainly the morning of Saturday the 18th that Canberra suburbs faced a very real threat at the fires. At 12pm on Saturday, it was pretty clear to me that my suburb Higgins (a north-western suburb) could have been in danger and I began to pack some precious items in case the worst happened. I was surprised by both the lateness of the official warnings and the fact that anyone in who was actually in Canberra that morning could have been taken by surprises at what happened that afternoon (ie by 9.00am the temp had already got to 30, the wind was strengthening at the NW with gusts increasing at 30-40km/hr and huge columns of smoke coming at forests just to the NW of the city). I will, however, leave my further comments on this subject to other forums. Cheers, Patrick -----Original Message----- at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Gavin O'Brien Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2003 8:19 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03 Hi Simon and list members, I was teaching at Wanniassa when the storm started around 1pm lots of lightning and thunder with two strikes in near area maybe a mobile phone tower.We have had very strong Westerly tonight gusting to 76 km /hr at WNW at 1815 (6.15 pm) average winds at times around 50-60 Km /hr Seems to be easing in past half hour Gavin SSWW Gilmore A.C.T. > at : "Simon Angell" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: "Aussie-Wx" >Subject: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03 >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:16:51 +1000 > >Hi all. >Well is wasn't really forecast, but i have just awoke to the symphony of >the sky, every few seconds the lovely crack whip sounds out, letting me >enjoy the rude wakeup! a few spits of rain here so far and some strong wind >also. Only problem is that it isn't photogenic at all, being embeded in >StCu. > >As i type the whole thing has disapated, and its starting to get brighter >outside, bugger! > >IDN26200 >ACT SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE >TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST >BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY >CANBERRA METEOROLOGICAL OFFICE >Issued at 1229 on Tuesday the 5th of August 2003 >A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE has been issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY >for the ACT including Canberra. >Thunderstorms are currently located in a line along the western border of >the ACT. These thunderstorms are moving east. Severe thunderstorms are >forecast to affect Canberra and other areas of the ACT within the next two >hours. These thunderstorms may bring large hailstones and damaging winds. >This advice is valid until 3 PM and should not be used after this time. >The ACT EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should: > put vehicles under cover or cover them with blankets > move indoors away at windows >During and after the storm people should: > take extreme care when driving > beware of fallen trees and power lines > keep away at creeks and drains as you may be swept away > shelter in the strongest part of a building [eg. bathroom or basement] >Do not use the telephone during the storm. If your house is damaged contact >the ACT Emergency Service on 6207-8455 for emergency assistance. >TV Crawl: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current in the ACT until 3pm >MEDIA PLEASE NOTE: This advice message is valid until 3pm >The Bureau of Meteorology and ACT Emergency Service Bureau would appreciate >it being broadcast regularly until this time > >Cheers >==---==---==---==---==---==---==---== >Simon Angell >Canberra, ACT >Canberra Weather: >www.canberra-wx.com >wap service: >http://wap.canberra-wx.com >==---==---==---==---==---==---==---== >Proud member of the >Australian Severe Weather Association. >www.severeweather.asn.au > >==---==---==---==---==---==---==---== > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Scanned with AVG and NAV for Win2k >with the very latest Virus definition files. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 24/7/2003 > _________________________________________________________________ ninemsn Extra Storage comes with McAfee Virus Scanning - to keep your Hotmail account and PC safe. 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Simon ----- Original Message ----- at : "Patrick Tobin" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:47 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03 > I also enjoyed today's storms - got a repeat around 5-6pm around the Deakin > area. > > Gavin, I agreed with your comments on the radio this morning re the fires > and warnings (or lack thereof). > It was pretty clear to me on the Friday and certainly the morning of > Saturday the 18th that Canberra suburbs faced a very real threat at the > fires. At 12pm on Saturday, it was pretty clear to me that my suburb Higgins > (a north-western suburb) could have been in danger and I began to pack some > precious items in case the worst happened. > > I was surprised by both the lateness of the official warnings and the fact > that anyone in who was actually in Canberra that morning could have been > taken by surprises at what happened that afternoon (ie by 9.00am the temp > had already got to 30, the wind was strengthening at the NW with gusts > increasing at 30-40km/hr and huge columns of smoke coming at forests > just to the NW of the city). > > I will, however, leave my further comments on this subject to other forums. > > Cheers, > Patrick > > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Gavin O'Brien > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2003 8:19 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03 > > > Hi Simon and list members, > I was teaching at Wanniassa when the storm started around 1pm lots of > lightning and thunder with two strikes in near area maybe a mobile phone > tower.We have had very strong Westerly tonight gusting to 76 km /hr at WNW > at 1815 (6.15 pm) average winds at times around 50-60 Km /hr Seems to be > easing in past half hour > > Gavin SSWW Gilmore A.C.T. > > at : "Simon Angell" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: "Aussie-Wx" > >Subject: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03 > >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:16:51 +1000 > > > >Hi all. > >Well is wasn't really forecast, but i have just awoke to the symphony of > >the sky, every few seconds the lovely crack whip sounds out, letting me > >enjoy the rude wakeup! a few spits of rain here so far and some strong wind > >also. Only problem is that it isn't photogenic at all, being embeded in > >StCu. > > > >As i type the whole thing has disapated, and its starting to get brighter > >outside, bugger! > > > >IDN26200 > >ACT SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE > >TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST > >BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY > >CANBERRA METEOROLOGICAL OFFICE > >Issued at 1229 on Tuesday the 5th of August 2003 > >A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE has been issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY > >for the ACT including Canberra. > >Thunderstorms are currently located in a line along the western border of > >the ACT. These thunderstorms are moving east. Severe thunderstorms are > >forecast to affect Canberra and other areas of the ACT within the next two > >hours. These thunderstorms may bring large hailstones and damaging winds. > >This advice is valid until 3 PM and should not be used after this time. > >The ACT EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should: > > put vehicles under cover or cover them with blankets > > move indoors away at windows > >During and after the storm people should: > > take extreme care when driving > > beware of fallen trees and power lines > > keep away at creeks and drains as you may be swept away > > shelter in the strongest part of a building [eg. bathroom or basement] > >Do not use the telephone during the storm. 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Hi Simon, Patrick, Gavin et al

Funny you should mention this Simon, I was looking to revive the NSW bushfires thread in Weatherzone, today, after the Mcleod report came out, but couldn't find the thread.

I think Patrick as well, and you too, noted the possible danger in the thread.  What annoyed me initially was the lack of publicity the Canberra Times gave it, in the first few days, particularly on Sunday 12 and Monday 13.  There were huge plumes of smoke drifting out towards the Riverina - something I hadn't seen in nearly 20 years in Canberra, yet on the Monday they gave it minimal coverage on page 3.

I made a mental note to clean up the undergrowth around my house (in Duffy) but never got round to it, after seeing the smoke in the Brindabellas.

The Mcleod report doesn't comment on whether the NSW ignitited MacIntyre's Hut fire could have been doused earlier - remember though this was a multiple ignition fire in very hard to access mountainous location, which became a larger fire, more quickly than the Bendora Dam, Stockyard Spur  and Gingera fires that started in the ACT.

I agree Patrick the Emergency Service Bureau were remiss in not issuing stronger earlier warnings.  I recall Phil Koperburg, in the 93/94 fires making a very grave statement one evening on the news that up to a thousand houses might burn the next day.  It didn't happen, but at least everyone was put on notice.

We now see detailed maps of where the fire was at each day - my question is why weren't something approximating these maps issued to the press in the week before the fire?  During the ten days between ignition and 18 January it was impossible to get detailed information about where the fires were and what areas they had burnt.

Of course the main culprit for the number of houses burnt was the pine forests of Stromlo.  Without them, the number of residences lost would have been more like 200 than 400.

> at : "Simon Angell"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03
>Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 01:02:03 +1000
>
>To add a little re: the fires, Fellow Canberra wx watcher, Michael King
>mention well ahead of the event that it was very possible for this to happen
>if the fires were not put out quickly, ill try to find when and where this
>was said (WZ forums i believe)...
>
>Simon
>
>----- Original Message -----
> at : "Patrick Tobin"
>To:
>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:47 PM
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03
>
>
> > I also enjoyed today's storms - got a repeat around 5-6pm around the
>Deakin
> > area.
> >
> > Gavin, I agreed with your comments on the radio this morning re the fires
> > and warnings (or lack thereof).
> > It was pretty clear to me on the Friday and certainly the morning of
> > Saturday the 18th that Canberra suburbs faced a very real threat at the
> > fires. At 12pm on Saturday, it was pretty clear to me that my suburb
>Higgins
> > (a north-western suburb) could have been in danger and I began to pack
>some
> > precious items in case the worst happened.
> >
> > I was surprised by both the lateness of the official warnings and the fact
> > that anyone in who was actually in Canberra that morning could have been
> > taken by surprises at what happened that afternoon (ie by 9.00am the temp
> > had already got to 30, the wind was strengthening at the NW with gusts
> > increasing at 30-40km/hr and huge columns of smoke coming at forests
> > just to the NW of the city).
> >
> > I will, however, leave my further comments on this subject to other
>forums.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Patrick
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Gavin O'Brien
> > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2003 8:19 PM
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03
> >
> >
> > Hi Simon and list members,
> > I was teaching at Wanniassa when the storm started around 1pm lots of
> > lightning and thunder with two strikes in near area maybe a mobile phone
> > tower.We have had very strong Westerly tonight gusting to 76 km /hr at
>WNW
> > at 1815 (6.15 pm) average winds at times around 50-60 Km /hr Seems to be
> > easing in past half hour
> >
> > Gavin SSWW Gilmore A.C.T.
> > > at : "Simon Angell"
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: "Aussie-Wx"
> > >Subject: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03
> > >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:16:51 +1000
> > >
> > >Hi all.
> > >Well is wasn't really forecast, but i have just awoke to the symphony of
> > >the sky, every few seconds the lovely crack whip sounds out, letting me
> > >enjoy the rude wakeup! a few spits of rain here so far and some strong
>wind
> > >also. Only problem is that it isn't photogenic at all, being embeded in
> > >StCu.
> > >
> > >As i type the whole thing has disapated, and its starting to get brighter
> > >outside, bugger!
> > >
> > >IDN26200
> > >ACT SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
> > >TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
> > >BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
> > >CANBERRA METEOROLOGICAL OFFICE
> > >Issued at 1229 on Tuesday the 5th of August 2003
> > >A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE has been issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
> > >for the ACT including Canberra.
> > >Thunderstorms are currently located in a line along the western border of
> > >the ACT. These thunderstorms are moving east. Severe thunderstorms are
> > >forecast to affect Canberra and other areas of the ACT within the next
>two
> > >hours. These thunderstorms may bring large hailstones and damaging
>winds.
> > >This advice is valid until 3 PM and should not be used after this time.
> > >The ACT EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should:
> > > put vehicles under cover or cover them with blankets
> > > move indoors away at windows
> > >During and after the storm people should:
> > > take extreme care when driving
> > > beware of fallen trees and power lines
> > > keep away at creeks and drains as you may be swept away
> > > shelter in the strongest part of a building [eg. bathroom or basement]
> > >Do not use the telephone during the storm. If your house is damaged
>contact
> > >the ACT Emergency Service on 6207-8455 for emergency assistance.
> > >TV Crawl: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current in the ACT until 3pm
> > >MEDIA PLEASE NOTE: This advice message is valid until 3pm
> > >The Bureau of Meteorology and ACT Emergency Service Bureau would
>appreciate
> > >it being broadcast regularly until this time
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >==---==---==---==---==---==---==---==
> > >Simon Angell
> > >Canberra, ACT
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Click here for more. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Robert M" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Mammatus pic`s 5/8/03 X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 203.134.94.103 Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 19:49:02 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - neptune.hiddenservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [1875 1885] / [1875 1885] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - neptune.hiddenservers.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here are some pic`s of Mammatus (I think i have some more) http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/Mammatus/01.jpg http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/Mammatus/02.jpg http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/Mammatus/03.jpg http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/Mammatus/04.jpg http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/Mammatus/05.jpg http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/Mammatus/06.jpg http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/Mammatus/07.jpg --------------------------- Nick name: Weathernut Real name: Robert M Web site: http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com Email: weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com --------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: penfold.hotkey.net.au: apache set sender to davidkc at hotkey.net.au using -f Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 12:43:32 +1000 at : davidkc at hotkey.net.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Bathurst Storm 5/8 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 203.134.75.68 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI all. What a great storm Bathurst had last night. Around 5.30pm the clouds were extremely dark. I had no access to net due to Harddrive problems. Went to friends house and witnessed a fantastic hail storm which lasted about 5 -10 min, this occurred around 6.55pm. The back verandah was white with hail. Some photos were taken which will be up to view very soon. Many reports of trees down and power lines around Orange, Bathurst and Oberon. SES and council crews called in to clean up the mess. Most of Raglan/Kelso areas of Bathurst all had no power to due powerlines down. It was 3 hours before completely restored. The radar showed some pink images and red images south of Bathurst prior to getting storm. I called Matt Pearce to advise of what was happening here.. He was correct in saying we were about to get slaughtered. 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The most extreme example I've seen was Coonabarabran where the town minimum, on the Castlereagh River floodplain, was -3.0 and the airport, about 4km south and on a ridge 200m higher (figures at memory) had a min of +7. Coonabarabran's figures yesterday were -5 for the town and +6 for the airport. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Damian > Sent: Monday, 4 August 2003 00:13 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: Question? > > > Can anyone explain to me why I recorded a warm 5.3 degrees > here at Hornsby > Heights last night when everyone else recorded much colder > temperatures? > I usually record around the same temperature as Gosford, even colder > sometimes as I'm in a steep valley. But Gosford & Penrith > recorded 3 degrees > & Parramatta & Liverpool recorded colder than me which I have > never seen > before?? > > > Damian > 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > +-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of your > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------- > --------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe at aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ at : "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Supercells in NE Victoria 19th May Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 21:04:50 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Wondering if anyone was out and about with a camera or video in the northeast of Victoria on May 19th 2003 (day after the Bendigo tornado), in the Beechworth area - looking to see if there are any images available of either the supercells that have been identified in the area or any damage on that day. 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On the wind anyone else record strong winds last night? Gavin > at : "michael king" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03 >Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 09:31:48 +1000 > _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. 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Hi Simon, Patrick, Gavin et al

Funny you should mention this Simon, I was looking to revive the NSW bushfires thread in Weatherzone, today, after the Mcleod report came out, but couldn't find the thread.

I think Patrick as well, and you too, noted the possible danger in the thread.  What annoyed me initially was the lack of publicity the Canberra Times gave it, in the first few days, particularly on Sunday 12 and Monday 13.  There were huge plumes of smoke drifting out towards the Riverina - something I hadn't seen in nearly 20 years in Canberra, yet on the Monday they gave it minimal coverage on page 3.

I made a mental note to clean up the undergrowth around my house (in Duffy) but never got round to it, after seeing the smoke in the Brindabellas.

The Mcleod report doesn't comment on whether the NSW ignitited MacIntyre's Hut fire could have been doused earlier - remember though this was a multiple ignition fire in very hard to access mountainous location, which became a larger fire, more quickly than the Bendora Dam, Stockyard Spur  and Gingera fires that started in the ACT.

I agree Patrick the Emergency Service Bureau were remiss in not issuing stronger earlier warnings.  I recall Phil Koperburg, in the 93/94 fires making a very grave statement one evening on the news that up to a thousand houses might burn the next day.  It didn't happen, but at least everyone was put on notice.

We now see detailed maps of where the fire was at each day - my question is why weren't something approximating these maps issued to the press in the week before the fire?  During the ten days between ignition and 18 January it was impossible to get detailed information about where the fires were and what areas they had burnt.

Of course the main culprit for the number of houses burnt was the pine forests of Stromlo.  Without them, the number of residences lost would have been more like 200 than 400.

> at : "Simon Angell"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03
>Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 01:02:03 +1000
>
>To add a little re: the fires, Fellow Canberra wx watcher, Michael King
>mention well ahead of the event that it was very possible for this to happen
>if the fires were not put out quickly, ill try to find when and where this
>was said (WZ forums i believe)...
>
>Simon
>
>----- Original Message -----
> at : "Patrick Tobin"
>To:
>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:47 PM
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03
>
>
> > I also enjoyed today's storms - got a repeat around 5-6pm around the
>Deakin
> > area.
> >
> > Gavin, I agreed with your comments on the radio this morning re the fires
> > and warnings (or lack thereof).
> > It was pretty clear to me on the Friday and certainly the morning of
> > Saturday the 18th that Canberra suburbs faced a very real threat at the
> > fires. At 12pm on Saturday, it was pretty clear to me that my suburb
>Higgins
> > (a north-western suburb) could have been in danger and I began to pack
>some
> > precious items in case the worst happened.
> >
> > I was surprised by both the lateness of the official warnings and the fact
> > that anyone in who was actually in Canberra that morning could have been
> > taken by surprises at what happened that afternoon (ie by 9.00am the temp
> > had already got to 30, the wind was strengthening at the NW with gusts
> > increasing at 30-40km/hr and huge columns of smoke coming at forests
> > just to the NW of the city).
> >
> > I will, however, leave my further comments on this subject to other
>forums.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Patrick
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Gavin O'Brien
> > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2003 8:19 PM
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03
> >
> >
> > Hi Simon and list members,
> > I was teaching at Wanniassa when the storm started around 1pm lots of
> > lightning and thunder with two strikes in near area maybe a mobile phone
> > tower.We have had very strong Westerly tonight gusting to 76 km /hr at
>WNW
> > at 1815 (6.15 pm) average winds at times around 50-60 Km /hr Seems to be
> > easing in past half hour
> >
> > Gavin SSWW Gilmore A.C.T.
> > > at : "Simon Angell"
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: "Aussie-Wx"
> > >Subject: aus-wx: Canberra Storms 5/8/03
> > >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:16:51 +1000
> > >
> > >Hi all.
> > >Well is wasn't really forecast, but i have just awoke to the symphony of
> > >the sky, every few seconds the lovely crack whip sounds out, letting me
> > >enjoy the rude wakeup! a few spits of rain here so far and some strong
>wind
> > >also. Only problem is that it isn't photogenic at all, being embeded in
> > >StCu.
> > >
> > >As i type the whole thing has disapated, and its starting to get brighter
> > >outside, bugger!
> > >
> > >IDN26200
> > >ACT SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
> > >TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
> > >BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
> > >CANBERRA METEOROLOGICAL OFFICE
> > >Issued at 1229 on Tuesday the 5th of August 2003
> > >A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE has been issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
> > >for the ACT including Canberra.
> > >Thunderstorms are currently located in a line along the western border of
> > >the ACT. These thunderstorms are moving east. Severe thunderstorms are
> > >forecast to affect Canberra and other areas of the ACT within the next
>two
> > >hours. These thunderstorms may bring large hailstones and damaging
>winds.
> > >This advice is valid until 3 PM and should not be used after this time.
> > >The ACT EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should:
> > > put vehicles under cover or cover them with blankets
> > > move indoors away at windows
> > >During and after the storm people should:
> > > take extreme care when driving
> > > beware of fallen trees and power lines
> > > keep away at creeks and drains as you may be swept away
> > > shelter in the strongest part of a building [eg. bathroom or basement]
> > >Do not use the telephone during the storm. If your house is damaged
>contact
> > >the ACT Emergency Service on 6207-8455 for emergency assistance.
> > >TV Crawl: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current in the ACT until 3pm
> > >MEDIA PLEASE NOTE: This advice message is valid until 3pm
> > >The Bureau of Meteorology and ACT Emergency Service Bureau would
>appreciate
> > >it being broadcast regularly until this time
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >==---==---==---==---==---==---==---==
> > >Simon Angell
> > >Canberra, ACT
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