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Hi all,

June readings  at  my wx station here at Morphett Vale, Adelaide, SA are now
online for anyone interested. Goto the link below then click on June (2003).
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer/weatherhistory.htm

Regs, Paul.
(Stargazer)
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Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 07:55:45 +1000
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There was one like that on 28th-29th April 1963 (it even appears in a Bureau
publication on elementary meteorology that I have).  The weather cleared
about 6 am..I remember awaking to gale force westerlies. By midday the sky
had cleared completely to a warm hazy day with light winds and seabreezes
and people on the news were asking 'where did that storm go?' The villain of
the piece was an east coast low that moved down right over the coastline. I
recorded 4 inches of rain in 2 days (at Dulwich Hill), topping off a wet
week, and although the pressure wasn't really all that low I have a note of
westerlies to Beaufort force 8 as it passed by.
But who remembers the June 1975 storm...that really did wonders for
barographs!

Keith
----- Original Message ----- 
 at : "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 11:58 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.


> Tuan,
> I can certainly remember the 1963 event as I was at Boarding College in
> Sydney.The main building received roof damage and flooded dormatories  and
a
> lot of wind  blew during the night.I can remember the clearance of the
> weather around dawn (as the centre moved south of Sydney) I did n't
realise
> it was such an intense fall in pressure.I can also rember a two low event
in
> the early 70's when  an intense low reached 987 Hpa just east of
Sydney.That
> depression  moved  at  NW N.S.W. and crossed the coast near Newcastle. I
> have a barograpgh trace in my records but not the time to find it!
> Gavin Canberra
>
>
> > at : "Tuan Phan" <t.phan at bom.gov.au>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
> >Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:54:58 +1000
> >
> >Hi Clyve, Keith & others,
> >
> >I brought what you both said up in a chart discussion. It resulted in a
bit
> >of discussion with people running around checking their sources & racking
> >through their memories for similar events.
> >
> >Keith - Outstanding memory! The May 28, 1963 synoptic has a strong
> >resembalance (Searching through scanned manual MSLPs). The 'bomb' you
> >mentioned dropped 83.3mm over Sydney later on the June 5.
> >
> >Someone else remembered a similar event back in May, 1956. Searching
> >revealed that the May 12 anal matched the current situation strongly as
> >well.
> >
> >Unfortunately, the charts are not avail to public yet & can't attach them
> >to
> >this group. If people are interested to know what the charts look like,
the
> >NCEP reanalysis database is useful:
> >
> >http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/Composites/Day/
> >
> >Or email me personally and I will get them to you asap.
> >
> >regards,
> >tuan
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Keith Barnett
> >Sent: Saturday, 28 June 2003 15:37
> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
> >
> >
> >Same (or similar) thing happened in late May and into June 1963. A series
> >of
> >low pressures moved across land with a high pressure belt to the south
and
> >at least one of the lows formed a 'bomb' just south of Sydney with flood
> >rain on the south coast.
> >Need to get hold of a scanner and copy the relevant charts of which I
have
> >newspaper clippings.
> >----- Original Message -----
> > at : "Clyve Herbert" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
> >To: "aussie weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:52 AM
> >Subject: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
> >
> >
> > > After all the high pressure control over southern Aus over the past
two
> > > months, we now have a rare syynoptic set up across the Australian
region
> > > with the baric ridge over the top end and a belt of lows along the
south
> > > coast ,its been a long time since I have seen such a set-up, although
> >the
> > > explanation appears to be a large scale cut off process with another
> >high
> > > south of Aus at almost 60 south. regards Clyve H.
> > >
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Hi all,

Keith - Just looked up 28-29/4/63 which looked really interesting as well.

As to the NCEP site, I am not very familar with it either. I believe best to
only put one date at a time (bit clunky & slow I know). This is what i did
for one of the date:

[Variables] - Mean sea level
[Analysis level] - Surface
{date} May 12 1963 [to] May 12 1963 {I think if dates are different, you end
up getting a composite, which is not what you want.}
[Plot type] check "Mean"
[Scale Plot Size(%)] - 150
[Region of globe] - custom
[Custom] -65 -10 90 180 {in corresponding boxes}
{every else I left default} - the go forward/backward one day does not seem
to work either so have to manually go back & update the date :(

There is a current project to digitise all paper charts as far back as
possible. Currently, the group responsible, is up to 1956 (perfect to look
up the 1956 event). This is a huge manual job as you can imagine given the
number of charts since wx started in Aus. Shortly they will be made avail to
public like the others have been. [an aside - was simply amazed with the
synoptic anals pre [56 event] & after [63 event]intro of sat pics, and the
little amount of data around Aus compared to nowadays]

In a sense, the current situation is looking more & more analogue to the
1963 event. Latest models seems to have low deepening shortly off the NSW
coast. JMA is going for a deeper low than others so large falls could result
if it comes off.

I am sending the charts to the interested people shortly. [format is tif -
qite large 1/2mb each - so send some today and rest tomorrow in case only
have small email account]

Gavin - definitely interesting to see the barograph of that event. If you
know the exact date, I can search & send you the corresponding charts.

regards,
tuan


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[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Keith Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2003 07:56
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.


There was one like that on 28th-29th April 1963 (it even appears in a Bureau
publication on elementary meteorology that I have).  The weather cleared
about 6 am..I remember awaking to gale force westerlies. By midday the sky
had cleared completely to a warm hazy day with light winds and seabreezes
and people on the news were asking 'where did that storm go?' The villain of
the piece was an east coast low that moved down right over the coastline. I
recorded 4 inches of rain in 2 days (at Dulwich Hill), topping off a wet
week, and although the pressure wasn't really all that low I have a note of
westerlies to Beaufort force 8 as it passed by.
But who remembers the June 1975 storm...that really did wonders for
barographs!

Keith
----- Original Message -----
 at : "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 11:58 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.


> Tuan,
> I can certainly remember the 1963 event as I was at Boarding College in
> Sydney.The main building received roof damage and flooded dormatories  and
a
> lot of wind  blew during the night.I can remember the clearance of the
> weather around dawn (as the centre moved south of Sydney) I did n't
realise
> it was such an intense fall in pressure.I can also rember a two low event
in
> the early 70's when  an intense low reached 987 Hpa just east of
Sydney.That
> depression  moved  at  NW N.S.W. and crossed the coast near Newcastle. I
> have a barograpgh trace in my records but not the time to find it!
> Gavin Canberra
>
>
> > at : "Tuan Phan" <t.phan at bom.gov.au>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
> >Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:54:58 +1000
> >
> >Hi Clyve, Keith & others,
> >
> >I brought what you both said up in a chart discussion. It resulted in a
bit
> >of discussion with people running around checking their sources & racking
> >through their memories for similar events.
> >
> >Keith - Outstanding memory! The May 28, 1963 synoptic has a strong
> >resembalance (Searching through scanned manual MSLPs). The 'bomb' you
> >mentioned dropped 83.3mm over Sydney later on the June 5.
> >
> >Someone else remembered a similar event back in May, 1956. Searching
> >revealed that the May 12 anal matched the current situation strongly as
> >well.
> >
> >Unfortunately, the charts are not avail to public yet & can't attach them
> >to
> >this group. If people are interested to know what the charts look like,
the
> >NCEP reanalysis database is useful:
> >
> >http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/Composites/Day/
> >
> >Or email me personally and I will get them to you asap.
> >
> >regards,
> >tuan
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Keith Barnett
> >Sent: Saturday, 28 June 2003 15:37
> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
> >
> >
> >Same (or similar) thing happened in late May and into June 1963. A series
> >of
> >low pressures moved across land with a high pressure belt to the south
and
> >at least one of the lows formed a 'bomb' just south of Sydney with flood
> >rain on the south coast.
> >Need to get hold of a scanner and copy the relevant charts of which I
have
> >newspaper clippings.
> >----- Original Message -----
> > at : "Clyve Herbert" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
> >To: "aussie weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:52 AM
> >Subject: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
> >
> >
> > > After all the high pressure control over southern Aus over the past
two
> > > months, we now have a rare syynoptic set up across the Australian
region
> > > with the baric ridge over the top end and a belt of lows along the
south
> > > coast ,its been a long time since I have seen such a set-up, although
> >the
> > > explanation appears to be a large scale cut off process with another
> >high
> > > south of Aus at almost 60 south. regards Clyve H.
> > >
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You can plot your own charts for all years  at  1948:

http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/cdc/data.ncep.reanalysis.html/

1. choose "sea level pressure" under the Surface Data heading
2. click on "make plot or subset" under the NCEP Reanalysis Surface Level 
heading (2nd link)
3. Axis dimensions:  100E, 180E, 60S, 0S for Australia
4. Pick a date (make both dates the same)
5. Output options: select GIF and scale 175%

See how you go with that !

cheers, Michael



At 07:55 AM 1/07/2003 +1000, you wrote:

>There was one like that on 28th-29th April 1963 (it even appears in a Bureau
>publication on elementary meteorology that I have).  The weather cleared
>about 6 am..I remember awaking to gale force westerlies. By midday the sky
>had cleared completely to a warm hazy day with light winds and seabreezes
>and people on the news were asking 'where did that storm go?' The villain of
>the piece was an east coast low that moved down right over the coastline. I
>recorded 4 inches of rain in 2 days (at Dulwich Hill), topping off a wet
>week, and although the pressure wasn't really all that low I have a note of
>westerlies to Beaufort force 8 as it passed by.
>But who remembers the June 1975 storm...that really did wonders for
>barographs!
>
>Keith


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Michael, that is FANTASTIC! So easy!
Thanks ever so much for pointing us to it!
(I think I'm going to have a bit of work to do...)
Thanks to Tuan too for his help and input.
Cheers..Keith
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> You can plot your own charts for all years  at  1948:
>
> http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/cdc/data.ncep.reanalysis.html/
>
> 1. choose "sea level pressure" under the Surface Data heading
> 2. click on "make plot or subset" under the NCEP Reanalysis Surface Level
> heading (2nd link)
> 3. Axis dimensions:  100E, 180E, 60S, 0S for Australia
> 4. Pick a date (make both dates the same)
> 5. Output options: select GIF and scale 175%
>
> See how you go with that !
>
> cheers, Michael
>
>
>
> At 07:55 AM 1/07/2003 +1000, you wrote:
>
> >There was one like that on 28th-29th April 1963 (it even appears in a
Bureau
> >publication on elementary meteorology that I have).  The weather cleared
> >about 6 am..I remember awaking to gale force westerlies. By midday the
sky
> >had cleared completely to a warm hazy day with light winds and seabreezes
> >and people on the news were asking 'where did that storm go?' The villain
of
> >the piece was an east coast low that moved down right over the coastline.
I
> >recorded 4 inches of rain in 2 days (at Dulwich Hill), topping off a wet
> >week, and although the pressure wasn't really all that low I have a note
of
> >westerlies to Beaufort force 8 as it passed by.
> >But who remembers the June 1975 storm...that really did wonders for
> >barographs!
> >
> >Keith
>
>
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Subject: aus-wx: Good rains Bedourie/Birdsville
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Hi all.

I have included a new part in my software to log into the APRS network and
grab the weather station stuff  at  it. Currently as I type with it logged
into the Australia main gateway, I have it logging 417 weather stations.
Some of these are in but most are elsewhere. Actually I have found one in
Shepparton Vic which is only 30 kms  at  my home town. One for you Bussy ;-)

My question is does anyone know of any other networks etc that I can join to
supplement Australian information? Thge above one comes in via TELNET
protocol.

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At 06:02 PM 1/07/2003 +1000, you wrote:

>My question is does anyone know of any other networks etc that I can join to
>supplement Australian information? Thge above one comes in via TELNET
>protocol.

Off the top of my head, no.

A couple of things:

1.  Be careful interpreting the WX information  at  APRS.  The majority of 
the WX stations are setup by radio amateurs with varying levels of weather 
knowledge and interest, so the results may not be accurate.

2.  Most stations update every 30 minutes (standard for fixed stations)

3.  It could be of benefit if some of the knowledge in here was used to 
help people install their WX stations so as to give meaningful readings.

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Duely noted and agreed with.

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At 06:02 PM 1/07/2003 +1000, you wrote:

>My question is does anyone know of any other networks etc that I can join
to
>supplement Australian information? Thge above one comes in via TELNET
>protocol.

Off the top of my head, no.

A couple of things:

1.  Be careful interpreting the WX information  at  APRS.  The majority of 
the WX stations are setup by radio amateurs with varying levels of weather 
knowledge and interest, so the results may not be accurate.

2.  Most stations update every 30 minutes (standard for fixed stations)

3.  It could be of benefit if some of the knowledge in here was used to 
help people install their WX stations so as to give meaningful readings.

73 de Tony, VK3JED
http://vkradio.com 

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Tuan,
I will have a look this weekend and I will let you know
Gavin


> at : "Tuan Phan" <t.phan at bom.gov.au>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
>Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:50:41 +1000
>
>Hi all,
>
>Keith - Just looked up 28-29/4/63 which looked really interesting as well.
>
>As to the NCEP site, I am not very familar with it either. I believe best 
>to
>only put one date at a time (bit clunky & slow I know). This is what i did
>for one of the date:
>
>[Variables] - Mean sea level
>[Analysis level] - Surface
>{date} May 12 1963 [to] May 12 1963 {I think if dates are different, you 
>end
>up getting a composite, which is not what you want.}
>[Plot type] check "Mean"
>[Scale Plot Size(%)] - 150
>[Region of globe] - custom
>[Custom] -65 -10 90 180 {in corresponding boxes}
>{every else I left default} - the go forward/backward one day does not seem
>to work either so have to manually go back & update the date :(
>
>There is a current project to digitise all paper charts as far back as
>possible. Currently, the group responsible, is up to 1956 (perfect to look
>up the 1956 event). This is a huge manual job as you can imagine given the
>number of charts since wx started in Aus. Shortly they will be made avail 
>to
>public like the others have been. [an aside - was simply amazed with the
>synoptic anals pre [56 event] & after [63 event]intro of sat pics, and the
>little amount of data around Aus compared to nowadays]
>
>In a sense, the current situation is looking more & more analogue to the
>1963 event. Latest models seems to have low deepening shortly off the NSW
>coast. JMA is going for a deeper low than others so large falls could 
>result
>if it comes off.
>
>I am sending the charts to the interested people shortly. [format is tif -
>qite large 1/2mb each - so send some today and rest tomorrow in case only
>have small email account]
>
>Gavin - definitely interesting to see the barograph of that event. If you
>know the exact date, I can search & send you the corresponding charts.
>
>regards,
>tuan
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2003 07:56
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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
>
>
>There was one like that on 28th-29th April 1963 (it even appears in a 
>Bureau
>publication on elementary meteorology that I have).  The weather cleared
>about 6 am..I remember awaking to gale force westerlies. By midday the sky
>had cleared completely to a warm hazy day with light winds and seabreezes
>and people on the news were asking 'where did that storm go?' The villain 
>of
>the piece was an east coast low that moved down right over the coastline. I
>recorded 4 inches of rain in 2 days (at Dulwich Hill), topping off a wet
>week, and although the pressure wasn't really all that low I have a note of
>westerlies to Beaufort force 8 as it passed by.
>But who remembers the June 1975 storm...that really did wonders for
>barographs!
>
>Keith
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> at : "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
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>Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 11:58 PM
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
>
>
> > Tuan,
> > I can certainly remember the 1963 event as I was at Boarding College in
> > Sydney.The main building received roof damage and flooded dormatories  
>and
>a
> > lot of wind  blew during the night.I can remember the clearance of the
> > weather around dawn (as the centre moved south of Sydney) I did n't
>realise
> > it was such an intense fall in pressure.I can also rember a two low 
>event
>in
> > the early 70's when  an intense low reached 987 Hpa just east of
>Sydney.That
> > depression  moved  at  NW N.S.W. and crossed the coast near Newcastle. I
> > have a barograpgh trace in my records but not the time to find it!
> > Gavin Canberra
> >
> >
> > > at : "Tuan Phan" <t.phan at bom.gov.au>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
> > >Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:54:58 +1000
> > >
> > >Hi Clyve, Keith & others,
> > >
> > >I brought what you both said up in a chart discussion. It resulted in a
>bit
> > >of discussion with people running around checking their sources & 
>racking
> > >through their memories for similar events.
> > >
> > >Keith - Outstanding memory! The May 28, 1963 synoptic has a strong
> > >resembalance (Searching through scanned manual MSLPs). The 'bomb' you
> > >mentioned dropped 83.3mm over Sydney later on the June 5.
> > >
> > >Someone else remembered a similar event back in May, 1956. Searching
> > >revealed that the May 12 anal matched the current situation strongly as
> > >well.
> > >
> > >Unfortunately, the charts are not avail to public yet & can't attach 
>them
> > >to
> > >this group. If people are interested to know what the charts look like,
>the
> > >NCEP reanalysis database is useful:
> > >
> > >http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/Composites/Day/
> > >
> > >Or email me personally and I will get them to you asap.
> > >
> > >regards,
> > >tuan
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Keith 
>Barnett
> > >Sent: Saturday, 28 June 2003 15:37
> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
> > >
> > >
> > >Same (or similar) thing happened in late May and into June 1963. A 
>series
> > >of
> > >low pressures moved across land with a high pressure belt to the south
>and
> > >at least one of the lows formed a 'bomb' just south of Sydney with 
>flood
> > >rain on the south coast.
> > >Need to get hold of a scanner and copy the relevant charts of which I
>have
> > >newspaper clippings.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > > at : "Clyve Herbert" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
> > >To: "aussie weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:52 AM
> > >Subject: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
> > >
> > >
> > > > After all the high pressure control over southern Aus over the past
>two
> > > > months, we now have a rare syynoptic set up across the Australian
>region
> > > > with the baric ridge over the top end and a belt of lows along the
>south
> > > > coast ,its been a long time since I have seen such a set-up, 
>although
> > >the
> > > > explanation appears to be a large scale cut off process with another
> > >high
> > > > south of Aus at almost 60 south. regards Clyve H.
> > > >
> > >
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I will look for that Barograpgh Trace at the weekend..I remember it well!
Gavin


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>Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 07:55:45 +1000
>
>There was one like that on 28th-29th April 1963 (it even appears in a 
>Bureau
>publication on elementary meteorology that I have).  The weather cleared
>about 6 am..I remember awaking to gale force westerlies. By midday the sky
>had cleared completely to a warm hazy day with light winds and seabreezes
>and people on the news were asking 'where did that storm go?' The villain 
>of
>the piece was an east coast low that moved down right over the coastline. I
>recorded 4 inches of rain in 2 days (at Dulwich Hill), topping off a wet
>week, and although the pressure wasn't really all that low I have a note of
>westerlies to Beaufort force 8 as it passed by.
>But who remembers the June 1975 storm...that really did wonders for
>barographs!
>
>Keith
>----- Original Message -----
> at : "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
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>Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 11:58 PM
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
>
>
> > Tuan,
> > I can certainly remember the 1963 event as I was at Boarding College in
> > Sydney.The main building received roof damage and flooded dormatories  
>and
>a
> > lot of wind  blew during the night.I can remember the clearance of the
> > weather around dawn (as the centre moved south of Sydney) I did n't
>realise
> > it was such an intense fall in pressure.I can also rember a two low 
>event
>in
> > the early 70's when  an intense low reached 987 Hpa just east of
>Sydney.That
> > depression  moved  at  NW N.S.W. and crossed the coast near Newcastle. I
> > have a barograpgh trace in my records but not the time to find it!
> > Gavin Canberra
> >
> >
> > > at : "Tuan Phan" <t.phan at bom.gov.au>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
> > >Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:54:58 +1000
> > >
> > >Hi Clyve, Keith & others,
> > >
> > >I brought what you both said up in a chart discussion. It resulted in a
>bit
> > >of discussion with people running around checking their sources & 
>racking
> > >through their memories for similar events.
> > >
> > >Keith - Outstanding memory! The May 28, 1963 synoptic has a strong
> > >resembalance (Searching through scanned manual MSLPs). The 'bomb' you
> > >mentioned dropped 83.3mm over Sydney later on the June 5.
> > >
> > >Someone else remembered a similar event back in May, 1956. Searching
> > >revealed that the May 12 anal matched the current situation strongly as
> > >well.
> > >
> > >Unfortunately, the charts are not avail to public yet & can't attach 
>them
> > >to
> > >this group. If people are interested to know what the charts look like,
>the
> > >NCEP reanalysis database is useful:
> > >
> > >http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/Composites/Day/
> > >
> > >Or email me personally and I will get them to you asap.
> > >
> > >regards,
> > >tuan
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Keith 
>Barnett
> > >Sent: Saturday, 28 June 2003 15:37
> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
> > >
> > >
> > >Same (or similar) thing happened in late May and into June 1963. A 
>series
> > >of
> > >low pressures moved across land with a high pressure belt to the south
>and
> > >at least one of the lows formed a 'bomb' just south of Sydney with 
>flood
> > >rain on the south coast.
> > >Need to get hold of a scanner and copy the relevant charts of which I
>have
> > >newspaper clippings.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > > at : "Clyve Herbert" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
> > >To: "aussie weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:52 AM
> > >Subject: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
> > >
> > >
> > > > After all the high pressure control over southern Aus over the past
>two
> > > > months, we now have a rare syynoptic set up across the Australian
>region
> > > > with the baric ridge over the top end and a belt of lows along the
>south
> > > > coast ,its been a long time since I have seen such a set-up, 
>although
> > >the
> > > > explanation appears to be a large scale cut off process with another
> > >high
> > > > south of Aus at almost 60 south. regards Clyve H.
> > > >
> > >
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Greetin's Everyone: Heres the weather for June, 
2003 in Mena, Arkansas:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>Avg. High:81.8F(27.6C)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>Avg. Low:62.8F(17.1C)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; High:90F(32.2C) 
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>Rain for Month: 7.25"(184.1mm)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>Rain for Year:20.80"(528.3mm)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana>13 Raindays for June.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Living in the Northern Hemisphere, if I ever got to 
live in Australia, I don't know if I could get used to ya'lls weather 
patterns---ie. cold in July and warm in December. Or to put it another way, in 
2002, OUR winter (Dec 21, 2001- Mar 19, 2002)-- which is&nbsp;YOUR Summer-- the 
warmest maximum in Mena was 75F(23.8C) on March 14th; in OUR Summer (June 21-Sep 
22)-- which is YOUR winter--Mena's coldest maximum was also 75F(23.8C) on 
September 20th.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Heres hoping all ya'll have a Blessed, Safe, Happy 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wish ya'll could be here for the 4th of July 
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<DIV><SPAN class=590363703-02072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Yes 
Keith,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=590363703-02072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>2nd 
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Hi Tuan.
I have just recieved an email  at  you with dates attached? and 2750KB is
this an OK message or something else??regards Clyve H.         ??- Original
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> Hi Clyve, Keith & others,
>
> I brought what you both said up in a chart discussion. It resulted in a
bit
> of discussion with people running around checking their sources & racking
> through their memories for similar events.
>
> Keith - Outstanding memory! The May 28, 1963 synoptic has a strong
> resembalance (Searching through scanned manual MSLPs). The 'bomb' you
> mentioned dropped 83.3mm over Sydney later on the June 5.
>
> Someone else remembered a similar event back in May, 1956. Searching
> revealed that the May 12 anal matched the current situation strongly as
> well.
>
> Unfortunately, the charts are not avail to public yet & can't attach them
to
> this group. If people are interested to know what the charts look like,
the
> NCEP reanalysis database is useful:
>
> http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/Composites/Day/
>
> Or email me personally and I will get them to you asap.
>
> regards,
> tuan
>
>
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>
>
> Same (or similar) thing happened in late May and into June 1963. A series
of
> low pressures moved across land with a high pressure belt to the south and
> at least one of the lows formed a 'bomb' just south of Sydney with flood
> rain on the south coast.
> Need to get hold of a scanner and copy the relevant charts of which I have
> newspaper clippings.
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Clyve Herbert" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
> To: "aussie weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:52 AM
> Subject: aus-wx: Rare Synoptic.
>
>
> > After all the high pressure control over southern Aus over the past two
> > months, we now have a rare syynoptic set up across the Australian region
> > with the baric ridge over the top end and a belt of lows along the south
> > coast ,its been a long time since I have seen such a set-up, although
the
> > explanation appears to be a large scale cut off process with another
high
> > south of Aus at almost 60 south. regards Clyve H.
> >
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Hi all. The Vic visible image 1330, shows an interesting small (local scale)
surface vorticity max just south of Mildura, there was also a weaker LS
vorticity centre east of Mildura earlier this morning but has now almost
dissipated. An interesting feature of this present unusual setup has been
the appearance of small scale vorticity within the larger scale vorticity
area. regards Clyve Herbert.

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At 07:39 PM 1/07/2003 -0500, you wrote: <br>
<font face="arial" size=2><blockquote type=cite cite>Greetin's Everyone:
Heres the weather for June, 2003 in Mena, Arkansas:</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="verdana">Avg. High:81.8F(27.6C)</font><br>
Avg. Low:62.8F(17.1C)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; High:90F(32.2C) June 23, 24<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Low:53F(11.6C) June
9</blockquote><br>
Why is it in America, they use 10ths for average temperatures, but round
when they use extremes?<br>
<br>
90F could have been 89.5F to 90.4F, which gives a range of 31.9C to
32.4C. Not much difference I know, but when comparing them to Australian
records a 0.1C of a degree can make all the difference in breaking
records!<br>
<br>
As far as I know in Australia prior to our pre metric days in the early
1970's, the BoM still recorded temperatures in 10ths Fahrenheit.<br>
<br>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Sure have!&nbsp; Here in the Illawarra we seemed to be 
sandwiched between two rain areas and scored very little during the day. Just on 
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Hey all,

Just a quick message to let everyone know that I have finally put some of
Kelley and my weather images online. I'll be adding more to the album once I
have scanned them, so stay tuned.

The URL is:

http://photos.extrafilm.com.au/en/Album/Cover.asp?A=218922

Regards,

Paul and Kelley

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Hello Jacob/All: G'July to ya'll. I use 10ths for 
the average as I average the total of the 
highs/lows for the month (I like "true" numbers, 
so I don't round up when I crunch numbers). As 
far as the warmest/coldest temps in a month, 
those numbers come  at  radio station KENA(the 
official wx station for the area), I don't think 
those temps are rounded up (but I could be wrong).
I hope this explains it for you.
Happy July to All!
Yours~~~David Powell

> 
> At 07:39 PM 1/07/2003 -0500, you wrote: 
> >
> > Greetin's Everyone: Heres the weather for 
June, 2003 in Mena, Arkansas:
> >  
> > Avg. High:81.8F(27.6C)
> > Avg. Low:62.8F(17.1C)
> >        High:90F(32.2C) June 23, 24
> >        Low:53F(11.6C) June 9
> 
> 
> Why is it in America, they use 10ths for 
average temperatures, but round when
> they use extremes?
> 
> 90F could have been 89.5F to 90.4F, which gives 
a range of 31.9C to 32.4C. Not
> much difference I know, but when comparing them 
to Australian records a 0.1C of
> a degree can make all the difference in 
breaking records!
> 
> As far as I know in Australia prior to our pre 
metric days in the early 1970's,
> the BoM still recorded temperatures in 10ths 
Fahrenheit.
> 
> Jacob
> 
> 
> 

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> At 07:39 PM 1/07/2003 -0500, you wrote: 
> >
> > Greetin's Everyone: Heres the weather for June, 2003 in Mena, Arkansas:
> >  
> > Avg. High:81.8F(27.6C)
> > Avg. Low:62.8F(17.1C)
> >        High:90F(32.2C) June 23, 24
> >        Low:53F(11.6C) June 9
> 
> 
> Why is it in America, they use 10ths for average temperatures, but round when
> they use extremes?
> 
> 90F could have been 89.5F to 90.4F, which gives a range of 31.9C to 32.4C. Not
> much difference I know, but when comparing them to Australian records a 0.1C of
> a degree can make all the difference in breaking records!
> 
> As far as I know in Australia prior to our pre metric days in the early 1970's,
> the BoM still recorded temperatures in 10ths Fahrenheit.
> 

Standard US practice is to observe whole degrees Fahrenheit for maximum/
minimum temperatures - no idea why. This is the case even at stations
run directly by the National Weather Service.

It's actually (reasonably) legitimate to express a mean of 30/31
whole numbers to one decimal point - the standard error of the mean
is approximately +/- 0.1. 

Jacob's right that the official standard in Australia pre-metrication
was to record to the nearest 0.1 degrees Fahrenheit, but in practice
many observations were only taken to whole degrees or half-degrees -
I had a look at this a while back and found that Fahrenheit 
temperatures ending in .0 were about three times as frequent as they
should be. (.0 and .5 are still over-represented today - leaving 
aside those AWSs that only report to whole degrees - but not to 
anywhere near the same extent. Interestingly, round numbers are 
over-represented in almost any data set that requires a human 
measurement or response, even people's ages in the Census).

Blair
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Hi all. For those of us that like to look at meso or local scale vorticity.
The 1130hrs Vic visible shows a weak low level circulation over Port Phillip
bay, it can also be seen in low level cloud/ fog. The regions flow pattern
indicates north low level (weak flow) across the eastern surburbs  (Mel)
extends out into the bay and  joins an easterly flow across the southern bay
area. Appears to be topographical in nature although katabatic outflow east
of the Mel CBD. regards Clyve H.

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HEAVY SNOW WARNING ISSUED FOR PARTS OF OTAGO AND SOUTHLAND 
MetService has issued a heavy snow warning for Southland and the</FONT>
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An unusually cold airstream  at  polar regions is expected to reach
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For remaining parts of Otago, 5 to 10 cm may accumulate above 300
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<DIV><FONT size=2>There are two reasons we are getting weather associated with 
colder temperatures. One&nbsp;is because aphelion(day in the year that the is 
Sun furthest  at  Earth)occurs this year on July 4th, not around Solstice day in 
June as some might believe. Aphelion varies but usually occurs between July 2nd 
- 7th.&nbsp; Around the first week in July temperatures usually plummet. The 
second reason is the proximity of the New moon to northern declination, the 
details of which I will avoid here for fear of controversy, but the science for 
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HEAVY SNOW WARNING ISSUED FOR PARTS OF OTAGO AND SOUTHLAND 
MetService has issued a heavy snow warning for Southland and the</FONT>
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An unusually cold airstream  at  polar regions is expected to reach
the southern South Island Thursday night. 
Above 300 metres, 15-25cm of snow may accumulate in Southland and the
Catlins in the 24 hour period  at  9pm Thursday to 9pm Friday. 
For remaining parts of Otago, 5 to 10 cm may accumulate above 300
metres in this period. 
In Southland and Otago generally, snow showers are expected right
down to sea level, with a few centimetres accumulating on the beaches. 

FOR THE LATEST WEATHER AND FORECAST CHARTS PLEASE GO TO
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HEAVY SNOW WARNING

AREA/S AFFECTED: SOUTHLAND AND THE CATLINS
FORECAST:

In the 24 hours  at  9pm Thursday to 9pm Friday, expect 15 to 25 cm
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At 10:30 PM 3/07/2003 +1200, you wrote:

>There are two reasons we are getting weather associated with colder 
>temperatures. One is because aphelion(day in the year that the is Sun 
>furthest  at  Earth)occurs this year on July 4th, not around Solstice day 
>in June as some might believe. Aphelion varies but usually occurs

This is correct.  An interesting twist ( at  what I recall) about aphelion 
is that the average temperature of the Earth's surface is slightly _higher_ 
at aphelion than at perihelion.  This seemingly strange state of affairs is 
due to the imbalance of land mass on the Earth's surface.  The Northern 
Hemisphere has much more land than the Southern Hemisphere, and this means 
it responds to changes in solar radiation levels (radiation flux/sq metre - 
the varying angle of the sun with the seasons swamps the few percent change 
due to the distance of the Earth  at  the Sun) much more strongly than 
water (which has a very high specific heat).  This means that the Northern 
Hemisphere (on average) warms up more in the northern summer and cools down 
more in the winter than the Southern Hemisphere (that came  at  NASA).

However, on this end of the world, aphelion does slightly increase the 
severity of winter (but not nearly as much as our proximity to all that 
water moderates it!).

73 de Tony, VK3JED
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That's interesting, Tony, thanks.
Can't help wondering if the increase in elevation in the northern hemisphere
might go some way toward cancelling out at least some of that extra heat
effect..
Ken
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> At 10:30 PM 3/07/2003 +1200, you wrote:
>
> >There are two reasons we are getting weather associated with colder
> >temperatures. One is because aphelion(day in the year that the is Sun
> >furthest  at  Earth)occurs this year on July 4th, not around Solstice day
> >in June as some might believe. Aphelion varies but usually occurs
>
> This is correct.  An interesting twist ( at  what I recall) about aphelion
> is that the average temperature of the Earth's surface is slightly
_higher_
> at aphelion than at perihelion.  This seemingly strange state of affairs
is
> due to the imbalance of land mass on the Earth's surface.  The Northern
> Hemisphere has much more land than the Southern Hemisphere, and this means
> it responds to changes in solar radiation levels (radiation flux/sq
metre -
> the varying angle of the sun with the seasons swamps the few percent
change
> due to the distance of the Earth  at  the Sun) much more strongly than
> water (which has a very high specific heat).  This means that the Northern
> Hemisphere (on average) warms up more in the northern summer and cools
down
> more in the winter than the Southern Hemisphere (that came  at  NASA).
>
> However, on this end of the world, aphelion does slightly increase the
> severity of winter (but not nearly as much as our proximity to all that
> water moderates it!).
>
> 73 de Tony, VK3JED
> http://vkradio.com
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>That's interesting, Tony, thanks.
>Can't help wondering if the increase in elevation in the northern hemisphere
>might go some way toward cancelling out at least some of that extra heat
>effect..

There's a lot of variables, but the net effect is that the land mass 
imbalance more than counteracts the effect of aphelion and perihelion. :)

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<DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2>Thanks Ken</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2>I look forward to your 
forecasts for Southern NZ as I travelled  at  Australia to New Zealand for my 
honeymoon last year.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2>I found the weather fascinating 
and quite different than Australia's.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2>We drove  at  Christchurch to 
Methven then to Omarau, Temaru, Dunedin, Gore, Te Anau, Milford Sound, 
Manapouri, Doubtful Sound, Queenstown, Tekapo back to Twizel then to Mt Cook 
then to Wanaka, Hokitika, Springfield, Hamner, Blenheim to Nelson and back down 
to Christchurch.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2>My Hi Res photos of NZ (and 
weather) can be found here: <A 
href="http://community.webshots.com/album/58313420yrvTxZ">http://community.webshots.com/album/58313420yrvTxZ</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2>Simon</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B> at :</B> 
  aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com 
  [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ken 
  Ring<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 3 July 2003 8:30 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
  aussie-weather at world.std.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: aus-wx: snow 
  warning<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>There are two reasons we are getting weather associated with 
  colder temperatures. One&nbsp;is because aphelion(day in the year that the is 
  Sun furthest  at  Earth)occurs this year on July 4th, not around Solstice day 
  in June as some might believe. Aphelion varies but usually occurs between July 
  2nd - 7th.&nbsp; Around the first week in July temperatures usually plummet. 
  The second reason is the proximity of the New moon to northern declination, 
  the details of which I will avoid here for fear of controversy, but the 
  science for it can be found on my website. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>cheers</DIV>
  <DIV>Ken Ring</DIV>
  <DIV><A href="http://www.predictweather.com">www.predictweather.com</A></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV 
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    <A title=nzstorm at ihug.co.nz href="mailto:nzstorm at ihug.co.nz">Steven 
    Williams</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
    href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com">aussie-weather at world.std.com</A> 
    </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 03, 2003 6:14 
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: snow warning</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>
    <P><SPAN class=h3head><FONT size=3>Severe Weather Warning </FONT></SPAN></P>
    <P><FONT size=3></FONT><PRE><FONT size=3>Issued by MetService at 10:55am 03-Jul-2003

HEAVY SNOW WARNING ISSUED FOR PARTS OF OTAGO AND SOUTHLAND 
MetService has issued a heavy snow warning for Southland and the</FONT>
<FONT size=3>Catlins. 
An unusually cold airstream  at  polar regions is expected to reach
the southern South Island Thursday night. 
Above 300 metres, 15-25cm of snow may accumulate in Southland and the
Catlins in the 24 hour period  at  9pm Thursday to 9pm Friday. 
For remaining parts of Otago, 5 to 10 cm may accumulate above 300
metres in this period. 
In Southland and Otago generally, snow showers are expected right
down to sea level, with a few centimetres accumulating on the beaches. 

FOR THE LATEST WEATHER AND FORECAST CHARTS PLEASE GO TO
</FONT><A href="http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/index.asp">
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HEAVY SNOW WARNING

AREA/S AFFECTED: SOUTHLAND AND THE CATLINS
FORECAST:

In the 24 hours  at  9pm Thursday to 9pm Friday, expect 15 to 25 cm
of snow to accumulate above 300 metres. Lighter falls expected to sea
level, with up to 5 cm accumulating there. 

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<DIV><FONT size=2>Hi Simon</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I have been barred  at  publishing predictions on two NZ 
forums run by meteorologists. Last July, when I wrote Almanac 2003 I forecast 
this to be a warmer and wetter winter overall for NZ. The Metservice and NIWA 
are only now saying the same thing. In reality I was just using averages like 
everyone else, and  at  Metservice obs to boot. But apparently any whisper of 
using a lunar factor makes other forecasters break out in spots. There is a 
learning curve here which many seem reluctant to venture upon. Yet the BoM sees 
no problem in exploring aboriginal techniques, which were lunar-based. Looks 
like the 'aboriginal' tag makes it more acceptable. Anyway, in order to keep the 
peace, even on this forum,&nbsp;I&nbsp;suggest&nbsp;you visit my website for 
forecasts or email me personally. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>cheers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Ken Ring</FONT></DIV>
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  href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com">aussie-weather at world.std.com</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 04, 2003 1:32 AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: aus-wx: snow warning</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2>Thanks 
Ken</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2>I look forward to your 
  forecasts for Southern NZ as I travelled  at  Australia to New Zealand for my 
  honeymoon last year.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2>I found the weather 
  fascinating and quite different than Australia's.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2>We drove  at  Christchurch to 
  Methven then to Omarau, Temaru, Dunedin, Gore, Te Anau, Milford Sound, 
  Manapouri, Doubtful Sound, Queenstown, Tekapo back to Twizel then to Mt Cook 
  then to Wanaka, Hokitika, Springfield, Hamner, Blenheim to Nelson and back 
  down to Christchurch.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2>My Hi Res photos of NZ (and 
  weather) can be found here: <A 
  href="http://community.webshots.com/album/58313420yrvTxZ">http://community.webshots.com/album/58313420yrvTxZ</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2>Simon</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=056202413-03072003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B> at :</B> 
    aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com 
    [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ken 
    Ring<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 3 July 2003 8:30 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
    aussie-weather at world.std.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: aus-wx: snow 
    warning<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>There are two reasons we are getting weather associated 
    with colder temperatures. One&nbsp;is because aphelion(day in the year that 
    the is Sun furthest  at  Earth)occurs this year on July 4th, not around 
    Solstice day in June as some might believe. Aphelion varies but usually 
    occurs between July 2nd - 7th.&nbsp; Around the first week in July 
    temperatures usually plummet. The second reason is the proximity of the New 
    moon to northern declination, the details of which I will avoid here for 
    fear of controversy, but the science for it can be found on my website. 
    </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>cheers</DIV>
    <DIV>Ken Ring</DIV>
    <DIV><A 
href="http://www.predictweather.com">www.predictweather.com</A></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 03, 2003 6:14 
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      <P><SPAN class=h3head><FONT size=3>Severe Weather Warning 
      </FONT></SPAN></P>
      <P><FONT size=3></FONT><PRE><FONT size=3>Issued by MetService at 10:55am 03-Jul-2003

HEAVY SNOW WARNING ISSUED FOR PARTS OF OTAGO AND SOUTHLAND 
MetService has issued a heavy snow warning for Southland and the</FONT>
<FONT size=3>Catlins. 
An unusually cold airstream  at  polar regions is expected to reach
the southern South Island Thursday night. 
Above 300 metres, 15-25cm of snow may accumulate in Southland and the
Catlins in the 24 hour period  at  9pm Thursday to 9pm Friday. 
For remaining parts of Otago, 5 to 10 cm may accumulate above 300
metres in this period. 
In Southland and Otago generally, snow showers are expected right
down to sea level, with a few centimetres accumulating on the beaches. 

FOR THE LATEST WEATHER AND FORECAST CHARTS PLEASE GO TO
</FONT><A href="http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/index.asp">
<FONT size=3>http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/index.asp
</FONT></A>

<FONT size=3>MORE DETAILED INFORMATION FOR EMERGENCY MANAGERS AND TECHNICAL USERS
FOLLOWS:

HEAVY SNOW WARNING

AREA/S AFFECTED: SOUTHLAND AND THE CATLINS
FORECAST:

In the 24 hours  at  9pm Thursday to 9pm Friday, expect 15 to 25 cm
of snow to accumulate above 300 metres. Lighter falls expected to sea
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How amazing is this?! forwarded to the list on behalf of Clyve Herbert....

Surprise thunderstorm activity over the Central Ranges of Victoria yesterday
afternoon (Thursday 3rd July, 2003),  at  an early morning low minimum of
0°C and frost, turkeys started sprouting by 10am, and even with a
temperature below 10°C, it was difficult to walk around without looking at
the sky.  By midday., congesting cumulus were powering upwards just about
everywhere.  By 1330 vigorous low topped Cbs had started to develop.  For
the remainder of the afternoon they just kept growing bigger and bigger,
eventually topping out close to 30,000'.

At 1345 near Gisborne, I managed to get myself near to the base of a
vigorous updraft that quickly developed a wallcloud (small) and started
rotating.  A funnel appeared almost within seconds, and wound around the
wallcloud.  I almost forgot to take pictures astonished by the sight!!
Fortunately, composing myself, I fired away with my Canon digicam and this
is one of the results.

http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jul03/gisborne2b.jpg

Regards,

Clyve Herbert




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Looking at the upper air sounding for the day, the potential was there for
cb's to 9000m.
Nice looking funnel.
Cheers

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How amazing is this?! forwarded to the list on behalf of Clyve Herbert....

Surprise thunderstorm activity over the Central Ranges of Victoria yesterday
afternoon (Thursday 3rd July, 2003),  at  an early morning low minimum of
0°C and frost, turkeys started sprouting by 10am, and even with a
temperature below 10°C, it was difficult to walk around without looking at
the sky.  By midday., congesting cumulus were powering upwards just about
everywhere.  By 1330 vigorous low topped Cbs had started to develop.  For
the remainder of the afternoon they just kept growing bigger and bigger,
eventually topping out close to 30,000'.

At 1345 near Gisborne, I managed to get myself near to the base of a
vigorous updraft that quickly developed a wallcloud (small) and started
rotating.  A funnel appeared almost within seconds, and wound around the
wallcloud.  I almost forgot to take pictures astonished by the sight!!
Fortunately, composing myself, I fired away with my Canon digicam and this
is one of the results.

http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jul03/gisborne2b.jpg

Regards,

Clyve Herbert




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A great report and and pic there.Sounds like Clyve had a get day.
I was shocked to see LP storms in winter with temps in the low 10s.
here are some of my pic`s. Enjoy.
http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/00.jpg
http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/01.jpg
http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/02.jpg
http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/03.jpg
http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/04.jpg
http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/05.jpg
http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/06.jpg
http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/07.jpg
http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/08.jpg
http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/09.jpg
http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/10.jpg
http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/11.jpg 
http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/12.jpg 
http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/13.jpg 
http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/14.jpg 
http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/15.jpg 
http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/16.jpg 
http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/17.jpg 
http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/18.jpg 
http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/19.jpg 
http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/20.jpg 
http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/21.jpg 
http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/22.jpg 
http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/23.jpg 
http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/24.jpg 
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> How amazing is this?! forwarded to the list on behalf of Clyve 
Herbert....
> 
> Surprise thunderstorm activity over the Central Ranges of Victoria 
yesterday
> afternoon (Thursday 3rd July, 2003),  at  an early morning low 
minimum of
> 0°C and frost, turkeys started sprouting by 10am, and even with a
> temperature below 10°C, it was difficult to walk around without 
looking at
> the sky.  By midday., congesting cumulus were powering upwards just 
about
> everywhere.  By 1330 vigorous low topped Cbs had started to 
develop.  For
> the remainder of the afternoon they just kept growing bigger and 
bigger,
> eventually topping out close to 30,000'.
> 
> At 1345 near Gisborne, I managed to get myself near to the base of a
> vigorous updraft that quickly developed a wallcloud (small) and 
started
> rotating.  A funnel appeared almost within seconds, and wound around 
the
> wallcloud.  I almost forgot to take pictures astonished by the 
sight!!
> Fortunately, composing myself, I fired away with my Canon digicam 
and this
> is one of the results.
> 
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jul03/gisborne2b.jpg
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Clyve Herbert
> 
> 
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>How amazing is this?! forwarded to the list on behalf of Clyve Herbert....

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<DIV><FONT size=2>Some snow to sea level in the South island today. 
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Evening all,

CSIRO have a brilliant image of New Zealand & the Tasman Sea taken at 1607 
this afternoon which shows the cold pool up really well as well as the 
snow!! Invercargill's 850hPa temperature this morning was -7.9C with 500hPa 
running at an amazing -39.3C - that's a serious attack of Antarctic air!!!

http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jul03/07040607csironzt.gif

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Some snow to sea level in the South island today. Invercargills freezing 
level on today's sounding is BG (below ground).
Currently sleeting/snowing in the Christchurch area.  Christchurch airport 
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The front over Christchurch is slow moving there giving quite persistent
snow now,  with accumulations to sea level.

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> Evening all,
>
> CSIRO have a brilliant image of New Zealand & the Tasman Sea taken at 1607
> this afternoon which shows the cold pool up really well as well as the
> snow!! Invercargill's 850hPa temperature this morning was -7.9C with
500hPa
> running at an amazing -39.3C - that's a serious attack of Antarctic air!!!
>
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jul03/07040607csironzt.gif
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jane
>
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> Some snow to sea level in the South island today. Invercargills freezing
> level on today's sounding is BG (below ground).
> Currently sleeting/snowing in the Christchurch area.  Christchurch airport
> reports a temperature of 0C with sleet.
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Hi all,
      I was heading home (south)  at  Seymour TAFE, at approx 1330. I
was stunned by the Shooting turrets I saw, over Kilmore. After checking
radar for a while, I headed out for Macedon. With delayed departure, I
missed the best, but took some cool cloudscapes, which I can email if
wanted.
Cheers Peter

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Subject: aus-wx: Gisborne funnel!!!!!!

How amazing is this?! forwarded to the list on behalf of Clyve
Herbert....

Surprise thunderstorm activity over the Central Ranges of Victoria
yesterday
afternoon (Thursday 3rd July, 2003),  at  an early morning low minimum
of
0°C and frost, turkeys started sprouting by 10am, and even with a
temperature below 10°C, it was difficult to walk around without looking
at
the sky.  By midday., congesting cumulus were powering upwards just
about
everywhere.  By 1330 vigorous low topped Cbs had started to develop.
For
the remainder of the afternoon they just kept growing bigger and bigger,
eventually topping out close to 30,000'.

At 1345 near Gisborne, I managed to get myself near to the base of a
vigorous updraft that quickly developed a wallcloud (small) and started
rotating.  A funnel appeared almost within seconds, and wound around the
wallcloud.  I almost forgot to take pictures astonished by the sight!!
Fortunately, composing myself, I fired away with my Canon digicam and
this
is one of the results.

http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jul03/gisborne2b.jpg

Regards,

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Hi all,
What a spectacular pix. I can report some isolated Cb around Canberra 
yesterday evening ( Thursday) with one strong cell moving Northeast between 
Hall and Yass dropping hail across the Barton Highway.We could clearly see 
it  at  Gilmore between 1800 and 1900 hours an d it showed up clearly on 
Captains Flat radar. Some smaller cells well to the west also visible 
apparently in the Batlow area.I was suprised to see tops up to 30,000 feet 
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>Looking at the upper air sounding for the day, the potential was there for
>cb's to 9000m.
>Nice looking funnel.
>Cheers
>
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>Subject: aus-wx: Gisborne funnel!!!!!!
>
>
>How amazing is this?! forwarded to the list on behalf of Clyve Herbert....
>
>Surprise thunderstorm activity over the Central Ranges of Victoria 
>yesterday
>afternoon (Thursday 3rd July, 2003),  at  an early morning low minimum of
>0°C and frost, turkeys started sprouting by 10am, and even with a
>temperature below 10°C, it was difficult to walk around without looking at
>the sky.  By midday., congesting cumulus were powering upwards just about
>everywhere.  By 1330 vigorous low topped Cbs had started to develop.  For
>the remainder of the afternoon they just kept growing bigger and bigger,
>eventually topping out close to 30,000'.
>
>At 1345 near Gisborne, I managed to get myself near to the base of a
>vigorous updraft that quickly developed a wallcloud (small) and started
>rotating.  A funnel appeared almost within seconds, and wound around the
>wallcloud.  I almost forgot to take pictures astonished by the sight!!
>Fortunately, composing myself, I fired away with my Canon digicam and this
>is one of the results.
>
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jul03/gisborne2b.jpg
>
>Regards,
>
>Clyve Herbert
>
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And thunderstorms  at  coldie cbs over Auckland tonight.
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> The front over Christchurch is slow moving there giving quite persistent
> snow now,  with accumulations to sea level.
>
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>
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> > Evening all,
> >
> > CSIRO have a brilliant image of New Zealand & the Tasman Sea taken at
1607
> > this afternoon which shows the cold pool up really well as well as the
> > snow!! Invercargill's 850hPa temperature this morning was -7.9C with
> 500hPa
> > running at an amazing -39.3C - that's a serious attack of Antarctic
air!!!
> >
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jul03/07040607csironzt.gif
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jane
> >
> > --------------------------------
> > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > cadence at australianskynweather.com
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> > Some snow to sea level in the South island today. Invercargills freezing
> > level on today's sounding is BG (below ground).
> > Currently sleeting/snowing in the Christchurch area.  Christchurch
airport
> > reports a temperature of 0C with sleet.
> >
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Hi Robert. you have captured the day very well. regards Clyve H.
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> A great report and and pic there.Sounds like Clyve had a get day.
> I was shocked to see LP storms in winter with temps in the low 10s.
> here are some of my pic`s. Enjoy.
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/00.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/01.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/02.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/03.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/04.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/05.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/06.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/07.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/08.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/09.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/10.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/11.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/12.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/13.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/14.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/15.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/16.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/17.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/18.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/19.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/20.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/21.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/22.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/23.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/24.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/25.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/26.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/27.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/28.jpg
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> > How amazing is this?! forwarded to the list on behalf of Clyve
> Herbert....
> >
> > Surprise thunderstorm activity over the Central Ranges of Victoria
> yesterday
> > afternoon (Thursday 3rd July, 2003),  at  an early morning low
> minimum of
> > 0°C and frost, turkeys started sprouting by 10am, and even with a
> > temperature below 10°C, it was difficult to walk around without
> looking at
> > the sky.  By midday., congesting cumulus were powering upwards just
> about
> > everywhere.  By 1330 vigorous low topped Cbs had started to
> develop.  For
> > the remainder of the afternoon they just kept growing bigger and
> bigger,
> > eventually topping out close to 30,000'.
> >
> > At 1345 near Gisborne, I managed to get myself near to the base of a
> > vigorous updraft that quickly developed a wallcloud (small) and
> started
> > rotating.  A funnel appeared almost within seconds, and wound around
> the
> > wallcloud.  I almost forgot to take pictures astonished by the
> sight!!
> > Fortunately, composing myself, I fired away with my Canon digicam
> and this
> > is one of the results.
> >
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jul03/gisborne2b.jpg
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Clyve Herbert
> >
> >
> >
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Some really magnificent pictures in that lot.  Great work.
Here, I am surrounded by mountains, trees and 30+ storey buildings.  Not 
much hope of seeing wonderful cloud structures like that.

Phil
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 at : "Robert M" <weathernut at weatherwatching.oz2k.com>
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Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 03:57:37 -0400
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Gisborne funnel!!!!!!

> A great report and and pic there.Sounds like Clyve had a get day.
> I was shocked to see LP storms in winter with temps in the low 10s.
> here are some of my pic`s. Enjoy.
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/00.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/01.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/02.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/03.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/04.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/05.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/06.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/07.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/08.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/09.jpg
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/robertmyers/3july03/10.jpg
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/11.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/12.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/13.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/14.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/15.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/16.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/17.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/18.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/19.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/20.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/21.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/22.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/23.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/24.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/25.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/26.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/27.jpg 
> http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/3july03/28.jpg 
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> 
> > How amazing is this?! forwarded to the list on behalf of Clyve 
> Herbert....
> > 
> > Surprise thunderstorm activity over the Central Ranges of Victoria 
> yesterday
> > afternoon (Thursday 3rd July, 2003),  at  an early morning low 
> minimum of
> > 0°C and frost, turkeys started sprouting by 10am, and even with a
> > temperature below 10°C, it was difficult to walk around without 
> looking at
> > the sky.  By midday., congesting cumulus were powering upwards just 
> about
> > everywhere.  By 1330 vigorous low topped Cbs had started to 
> develop.  For
> > the remainder of the afternoon they just kept growing bigger and 
> bigger,
> > eventually topping out close to 30,000'.
> > 
> > At 1345 near Gisborne, I managed to get myself near to the base of a
> > vigorous updraft that quickly developed a wallcloud (small) and 
> started
> > rotating.  A funnel appeared almost within seconds, and wound around 
> the
> > wallcloud.  I almost forgot to take pictures astonished by the 
> sight!!
> > Fortunately, composing myself, I fired away with my Canon digicam 
> and this
> > is one of the results.
> > 
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jul03/gisborne2b.jpg
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Clyve Herbert
> > 
> > 
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Subject: aus-wx: Victorian photography
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Evening all,

Have uploaded a few images  at  Victorians who have been out and about
with their cameras on the Winter 2003 page at
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/winter03.htm We've had some pretty
interesting skies....

 at  the 'land of the amazing sunset',

Jane


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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian photography
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Good Morning Jane.

Thankyou for sharing those images, there are some rather spectacular ones
there indeed, espescially some of the sunset ones.

Well done to all contributors!



*Dale*





on 06/07/2003 23:00, Jane ONeill at cadence at australianskynweather.com wrote:

> Evening all,
> 
> Have uploaded a few images  at  Victorians who have been out and about
> with their cameras on the Winter 2003 page at
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/winter03.htm We've had some pretty
> interesting skies....
> 
>  at  the 'land of the amazing sunset',
> 
> Jane
> 
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I also love the photos.  Especially Ross's one of the storm clouds.  What
actually happened that day, I am curious.  The sunsets remind me of the
wonderful sunsets  at  my childhood at Doonside.  We don't have such a good
view of the setting sun  at  Mona Vale.
Judy
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> Evening all,
>
> Have uploaded a few images  at  Victorians who have been out and about
> with their cameras on the Winter 2003 page at
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/winter03.htm We've had some pretty
> interesting skies....
>
>  at  the 'land of the amazing sunset',
>
> Jane
>
>
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Hi all. Interesting and rapid development of a broad high cloud area moving
over northwest WA. There seems to be an upper baroclinic zone drawing
moisture  at  near the equitorial region. The very intense low south of WA
looks to have activated  the upper flow ahead of its associated long wave
trough. regards Clyve H.

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<x-flowed>
Hi Clyve,
We ar