http://australiasevereweather.com/ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 01:06:42 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:10 PM 31/12/2002 +0800, you wrote: >May I echo Bussy's wishes for a great new year. As I type, it's already >2003 from NSW south to Tas. There's not much on the list because >everyone is busy celebrating. We get going here in a few hours, but at >my age I have a bad habit of sneaking off to bed early so all the >rockets will go off without me watching them. >Anyway all the best to everyone and may you all be blessed in the New Well, I just got in from watching the fireworks. Bit of a fizzer because of having to rush off early, and they seemed to drag the city fireworks out a bit. Saw some more spectacular ones around the city when leaving our vantage point at Williamstown. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Seven Hills data Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:10:17 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
A happy new year to everyone and here's hoping for a lot more rain in 2003.
 
December's readings
 
 
and the daily rainfall for the year just gone. This was the 7th driest in 53 years of record.
 
 
Keith Barnett
Weather fanatic and classical musician
Website: http://www.wthrman.com
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 From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:08:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Well, just at this moment, the New Year is looking better than the old one! I hope NSW and Qld are getting the rain that came through here. It looked as if we were going to have to buy some water as we were perilously close to running out, but we just got a 30mm reprieve, which filled up the tank and overflowed it. Thank goodness, because the town water is ghastly. The rain also watered our block, which we have covered in about 500+ trees, a lot grown from seed by me. We have been watering them, but it takes a lot of time and effort and never replaces a good soaking rain. I would have hated to lose any of them.
 
From our living room we get a wonderful view across a small valley to Ballarat. In summer the storms sweep across from the west and as soon as they hit the hills we get some wonderful light shows - better than fireworks. (although I suspect the farmers who live under the lighning with their tinder-dry paddocks aren't as impressed.)
 
Happy New Year to everyone.
 
Robyn in Ballarat, SE Victoria.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:50 PM
Subject: aus-wx: I'm home

All the best for everyone for the New Year. It's been a tough one all over Australia, but the Australian spirit will always shine through and we'll get straight back on our horses.
It's been tough everywhere we've looked this year. Politically, environmentally or whatever.
We as Australians are a very proud people and can get over anything, as we have in the past and will do in the future.
Not only to the Aussies on the list but to all, I wish you all the best for the New year.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:31:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
so far brisbane has not received any rain yet
as of 11:31 am on 01-01-03
Stephen
 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 11:08 AM
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Well, just at this moment, the New Year is looking better than the old one! I hope NSW and Qld are getting the rain that came through here. It looked as if we were going to have to buy some water as we were perilously close to running out, but we just got a 30mm reprieve, which filled up the tank and overflowed it. Thank goodness, because the town water is ghastly. The rain also watered our block, which we have covered in about 500+ trees, a lot grown from seed by me. We have been watering them, but it takes a lot of time and effort and never replaces a good soaking rain. I would have hated to lose any of them.
 
From our living room we get a wonderful view across a small valley to Ballarat. In summer the storms sweep across from the west and as soon as they hit the hills we get some wonderful light shows - better than fireworks. (although I suspect the farmers who live under the lighning with their tinder-dry paddocks aren't as impressed.)
 
Happy New Year to everyone.
 
Robyn in Ballarat, SE Victoria.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:50 PM
Subject: aus-wx: I'm home

All the best for everyone for the New Year. It's been a tough one all over Australia, but the Australian spirit will always shine through and we'll get straight back on our horses.
It's been tough everywhere we've looked this year. Politically, environmentally or whatever.
We as Australians are a very proud people and can get over anything, as we have in the past and will do in the future.
Not only to the Aussies on the list but to all, I wish you all the best for the New year.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Happy New Year Everyone! Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 13:08:45 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi,
 
We would like to say Happy New Year to everyone and hope you everyone have a better year this year.
 
From Nathan and Phillip Thompson.
 From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: December Averages for Sydney's North Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 14:06:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Here's the averages for December for my house between Chatswood West & North Ryde in Sydney's Northern Suburbs:
 
Average Maximum: 29.8
Average Minimum: 15.6
Highest Maximum: 39.6 on the 4th
Lowest Minimum:  9.2 on the 7th
Rainfall:        94mm
 
 
I have every day of the years weather statistics recorded from my backyard & put onto my weather website, which I have "updated" & "reorganised".
You can find my weather pages at:
 From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 14:52:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Reasonably steady rain falling at the moment here in Sydney's Northern Suburbs between Chatswood West & North Ryde.
 
 
 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 15:46:58 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Yep, only drizzling here in Concord (just south of Ryde)
Looks like the band may be clearing, on radar
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:52 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North

Reasonably steady rain falling at the moment here in Sydney's Northern Suburbs between Chatswood West & North Ryde.
 
 
 Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 13:16:46 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I lived in and around Ballarat for a few years (1960s), where are you in relation to Ballarat? Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:08:12 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home > Well, just at this moment, the New Year is looking better than the old > one! I hope NSW and Qld are getting the rain that came through here. It > looked as if we were going to have to buy some water as we were > perilously close to running out, but we just got a 30mm reprieve, which > filled up the tank and overflowed it. Thank goodness, because the town > water is ghastly. The rain also watered our block, which we have > covered in about 500+ trees, a lot grown from seed by me. We have been > watering them, but it takes a lot of time and effort and never replaces > a good soaking rain. I would have hated to lose any of them. > > From our living room we get a wonderful view across a small valley to > Ballarat. In summer the storms sweep across from the west and as soon > as they hit the hills we get some wonderful light shows - better than > fireworks. (although I suspect the farmers who live under the lighning > with their tinder-dry paddocks aren't as impressed.) > > Happy New Year to everyone. > > Robyn in Ballarat, SE Victoria. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bussy > To: aussie-weather > Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:50 PM > Subject: aus-wx: I'm home > > > All the best for everyone for the New Year. It's been a tough one all > over Australia, but the Australian spirit will always shine through and > we'll get straight back on our horses. > It's been tough everywhere we've looked this year. Politically, > environmentally or whatever. > We as Australians are a very proud people and can get over anything, > as we have in the past and will do in the future. > Not only to the Aussies on the list but to all, I wish you all the > best for the New year. > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 16:22:56 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Clearing slowly over the ranges west of Bowral. Sky 7/8ths here (Seven Hills) and 13mm since 8am. One year in 3 it rains here on New Year's day, with 1 year in 10 getting this much, just for trivia.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:46 PM
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Yep, only drizzling here in Concord (just south of Ryde)
Looks like the band may be clearing, on radar
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:52 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North

Reasonably steady rain falling at the moment here in Sydney's Northern Suburbs between Chatswood West & North Ryde.
 
 
 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Personal accounts of very close ligtning strikes Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:43:02 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Personal accounts of very close ligtning strikes

Some very galvanizing story's so far! I've had some close-ish calls in my life but the most memorable one was when I was about 5 or 6 years old, I can remember some of it still rather vividly. Anyway, I was up in my room (top south window of a two storey house) watching a nice lightning show (as I always have done, back in the days when we used to get storms in Sydney :P), it was around 8 or 9pm at night and I noticed the lightning (mostly forking cg's) were tending to get closer and closer. All of a sudden there was a brilliant flash of white and an absolutely deafening noise on which just threw me into shock for a few seconds. The bedroom lights started flashing on and off, and some of the electronic toys (some spaceship that made noises) switched themselves on and started going crazy. I ran down stairs as fast as I could, my brother and my dad were already halfway up the stairs wondering what just had happened. It took me a while to calm down, I was rather freaked out for a while and I was too afraid to go upstairs during storms for quite a while. The cg had obviously hit my house or the large palm tree near the window.

 

:)

 From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:26:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
it has been report on ten news at 5 pm
that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard over the soloman islands
 
and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign of life at all , and also reported that the  death toll could go higer than 1300
 
Stephen
 
 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:53:02 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

http://www.abc.net.au/news/justin/nat/newsnat-1jan2003-72.htm

 

Quote:

Few signs of life reported on Tikopia after cyclone

The first plane to fly over cyclone battered Tikopia in the Solomon Islands reported massive destruction and few signs of life, New Zealand's TV3 has reported.

The station's cameraman Jeff Mackley flew over the island, struck Saturday by Cyclone Zoe, from Vanuatu.

"It's the worst damage I have ever seen," he said.

There were few signs of life.

Tikopia, which is believed to have a population of around 2,000, has been cut off since just before the storm hit.

An Australian Hercules was due to fly over later today and a Solomons Government patrol vessel was due to sail from the capital Honiara on Wednesday.

The TV3 pictures showed most of the forest stripped bare on the picturesque volcanic island.

The few houses that could be seen were also destroyed.

Mr Mackley, who chartered the single engined aircraft, specialises in filming storms around the world.

 

 

James Holbeach

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Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen galowski
Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation

 

it has been report on ten news at 5 pm

that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard over the soloman islands

 

and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign of life at all , and also reported that the  death toll could go higer than 1300

 

Stephen

 

 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:54:23 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone.reut/

has an image

 

and

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5781215%255E2,00.html

 

Does not look good L

 

 

 

James Holbeach

--------------------------------

Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen galowski
Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation

 

it has been report on ten news at 5 pm

that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard over the soloman islands

 

and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign of life at all , and also reported that the  death toll could go higer than 1300

 

Stephen

 

 X-Originating-IP: [203.40.233.206] From: "ROBERT HALL" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain also in Darwin Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 07:55:09 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jan 2003 07:55:09.0262 (UTC) FILETIME=[1B0366E0:01C2B16B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Glad to hear about your rain! You needed it.

Here in Darwin we awoke on New Years Day to see what seemed to be the long-awaited Monsoon creeping down from the NW.

But in the afternoon, Berrimah Radar (BOM) showed a rain belt coming up from the South.

This seems to be associated with a cloud belt stretching from the Kimberlys SE to NSW.

We should complain - if this is not the blessed monsoon, we'll settle for it.

Cool grey skies, soft continuous rain, muted rumbles of thunder - YAY! Happy Territorians!

Rob Hall

>From: "Keith Barnett"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North
>Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 16:22:56 +1100
>
>Clearing slowly over the ranges west of Bowral. Sky 7/8ths here (Seven Hills) and 13mm since 8am. One year in 3 it rains here on New Year's day, with 1 year in 10 getting this much, just for trivia.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phillip Basil-Jones
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North
>
>
> Yep, only drizzling here in Concord (just south of Ryde)
> Looks like the band may be clearing, on radar
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Damian
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:52 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North
>
>
> Reasonably steady rain falling at the moment here in Sydney's Northern Suburbs between Chatswood West & North Ryde.
>
>
> Damian
> 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html

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Whats your revolution This year for 2003, mine is to say out of (TROUBLE) And to be more nicer to people. Anyway happy new year for 2003
 
Regards
Michael Wright 
 From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain also in Darwin Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:38:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This commentary on the developing monsoon which is now in the Arafura Sea (Weekly tropical climate note):
 
The near equatorial troughs in both the hemispheres were reorganised during last week. A good northeast surge was evident over the South China Sea into the active convection over the tropical Indian Ocean west of 120E. The cross equatorial flow from the northwest Pacific fed into the southern hemisphere monsoon trough except over Australian longitudes. SPCZ area was active with the formation of tropical cyclone Zoe in the area.

Time-longitude plots of 200 hPa velocity potential, mean sea level pressure and OLR series show increased convection to the west of the Darwin RSMC* longitude range, with obvious eastward propagation. Consistent with this, station pressure series show good phase agreement. BMRC 's coherent OLR mode displays [http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/clfor/cfstaff/matw/maproom/maproom.html] show the current active MJO pulse which commenced at about 80E during last week propagated eastwards to 120E and expected to progress further to 160E during the next couple of weeks. Current active convection over Sumatra is expected to reach northern Australia during the end of this week, which is consistent with the numerical model forecasts. Climatologically the active pulse of the monsoon prevails for one to two weeks over northern Australia. With the increased convection and active monsoon trough, the chances of tropical cyclone formation in the Australian region increases.

I notice isolated parts of NW Oz had 25mm in an hour this afternoon.

See also

http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/nmoc/latest.pl?IDCODE=IDX0016

The South Pacific's still looking alive too:

http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/0641.html

and

http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/10140.txt

 

 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain also in Darwin

Glad to hear about your rain! You needed it.

Here in Darwin we awoke on New Years Day to see what seemed to be the long-awaited Monsoon creeping down from the NW.

But in the afternoon, Berrimah Radar (BOM) showed a rain belt coming up from the South.

This seems to be associated with a cloud belt stretching from the Kimberlys SE to NSW.

We should complain - if this is not the blessed monsoon, we'll settle for it.

Cool grey skies, soft continuous rain, muted rumbles of thunder - YAY! Happy Territorians!

Rob Hall

>From: "Keith Barnett"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North
>Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 16:22:56 +1100
>
>Clearing slowly over the ranges west of Bowral. Sky 7/8ths here (Seven Hills) and 13mm since 8am. One year in 3 it rains here on New Year's day, with 1 year in 10 getting this much, just for trivia.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phillip Basil-Jones
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North
>
>
> Yep, only drizzling here in Concord (just south of Ryde)
> Looks like the band may be clearing, on radar
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Damian
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:52 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North
>
>
> Reasonably steady rain falling at the moment here in Sydney's Northern Suburbs between Chatswood West & North Ryde.
>
>
> Damian
> 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html

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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:09:27 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From Geoff Mackley's site: Fate of 1,300 Unknown After Cyclone Zoe I flew over Tikopia Island at 0900 on Jan 01 in a Cessna and the island is a scene of total devastation..in my experience with severe weather the maximum winds on the island would have been between 300 and 350kph...Tikopia Island would have been in the eyewall of Cyclone Zoe when it was at its peak strength, every tree on the island has been blown over or shredded, the island is completely denuded of vegetation, almost every building has been damaged, a few remain intact, while others have been shredded, and the sea has come through some villages and run into the lake which is the islands only water source, burying them, this sort of destruction is normally seen only after a strong tornado or volcanic eruption, a number of people, maybe 20 came down to the beach to watch us fly over ,, my pilot said he counted about 100 people in total, some signalled us with sheets of white plastic, others just sat there, we were unable to land as the island has no airstrip...I will not speculate on the likely casualties or fatalities, if it is not large it will be a miracle..... Phil's comments: At the moment Geoff is absolutely inundated by media enquiries so it's impossible to phone him. Also, his web site is so popular that it is taking many, many minutes to load even using Broadband. Note that the pilot of Geoff's Cessna counted 100 people on the ground on Tikopia, so it is not absolute destruction of the population as was erroneously reported by some media reports. The survivors need prayer support as they face up to grieving for all their lost relatives and the massive job of rebuilding their homes from scratch. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "James Holbeach" To: Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:54:23 +1100 Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation > http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone.reut/ > has an image > > and > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5781215%255E2,00.html > > Does not look good :-( > > > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen > galowski > Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation > > it has been report on ten news at 5 pm > that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard > over > the soloman islands > > and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign > of life at all , and also reported that the death toll could go higer > than 1300 > > Stephen > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:11:15 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some reports and photos I took over the Chrismas Period. 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and lightning to Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking Line, Rainbow http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series of photos showing development of a storm on Christmas http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: Damage photos http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm Rhett +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 23:33:24 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aus-wx , Wx-Chase Subject: aus-wx: Latest Chase Reports Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, I've uploaded some new chase reports on my site at: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/index.html There's six all up...the best three are the following: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/04_11_02ac.html Supercell hailstorm moved into the Brisbane Valley, gave some awesome lightning and nice hail...followed by some great mammatus! http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/11_11_02ac.html Once again, some awesome lightning...especially at night (some of it shown on Channel 7) - some awesome CC/CG combinations! http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/13_11_02ac.html Yet more awesome evening lightning, countless number of CGs from some slow moving storms - a night to remember! The other three can be see at: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/index.html Oct 23 Brisbane Duststorm, Nov 14 Granite Belt pulse-storms, and Nov 15 storms (line through Brisbane). -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.40.233.130] From: "ROBERT HALL" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 13:42:48 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jan 2003 13:42:49.0227 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC8575B0:01C2B19B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must be tonight. And is it?

Dear Lord, help us stick to science!

Rob Hall 

>From: "Phil Smith"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
>Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:09:27 +0800
>
>From Geoff Mackley's site:
>
>Fate of 1,300 Unknown After Cyclone Zoe
>
> I flew over Tikopia Island at 0900 on Jan 01 in a Cessna and the island
>is a scene of total devastation..in my experience with severe weather
>the maximum winds on the island would have been between 300 and
>350kph...Tikopia Island would have been in the eyewall of Cyclone Zoe
>when it was at its peak strength, every tree on the island has been
>blown over or shredded, the island is completely denuded of vegetation,
>almost every building has been damaged, a few remain intact, while
>others have been shredded, and the sea has come through some villages
>and run into the lake which is the islands only water source, burying
>them, this sort of destruction is normally seen only after a strong
>tornado or volcanic eruption, a number of people, maybe 20 came down to
>the beach to watch us fly over ,, my pilot said he counted about 100
>people in total, some signalled us with sheets of white plastic, others
>just sat there, we were unable to land as the island has no airstrip...I
>will not speculate on the likely casualties or fatalities, if it is not
>large it will be a miracle.....
>
>Phil's comments:
>At the moment Geoff is absolutely inundated by media enquiries so it's
>impossible to phone him. Also, his web site is so popular that it is
>taking many, many minutes to load even using Broadband.
>Note that the pilot of Geoff's Cessna counted 100 people on the ground
>on Tikopia, so it is not absolute destruction of the population as was
>erroneously reported by some media reports.
>
>The survivors need prayer support as they face up to grieving for all
>their lost relatives and the massive job of rebuilding their homes from
>scratch.
>
>Phil
><><
>
>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "James Holbeach"
>To:
>Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:54:23 +1100
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
>
> > http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone.reut/
> > has an image
> >
> > and
> > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5781215%255E2,00.html
> >
> > Does not look good :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > James Holbeach
> > --------------------------------
> > Trapdoor Ski Club
> > Mt. Hotham, Australia
> > ph. 0417 553 757
> > http://www.trapdoor.com.au
> > --------------------------------
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen
> > galowski
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
> >
> > it has been report on ten news at 5 pm
> > that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard
> > over
> > the soloman islands
> >
> > and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign
> > of life at all , and also reported that the death toll could go higer
> > than 1300
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
>
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Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 00:00:29 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From the moment I read Phil's email I thought some fool would pipe their little nose up about it. It's funny how many people get offended by the mere thought of religion! Would the same reaction have been given had some other type of support been proposed? I think not. AC ROBERT HALL wrote: > > Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? If > prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must be > tonight. And is it? > > Dear Lord, help us stick to science! > > Rob Hall > > >From: "Phil Smith" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation > >Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:09:27 +0800 > > > >From Geoff Mackley's site: > > > >Fate of 1,300 Unknown After Cyclone Zoe > > > > I flew over Tikopia Island at 0900 on Jan 01 in a Cessna and the > island > >is a scene of total devastation..in my experience with severe weather > >the maximum winds on the island would have been between 300 and > >350kph...Tikopia Island would have been in the eyewall of Cyclone Zoe > >when it was at its peak strength, every tree on the island has been > >blown over or shredded, the island is completely denuded of > vegetation, > >almost every building has been damaged, a few remain intact, while > >others have been shredded, and the sea has come through some villages > >and run into the lake which is the islands only water source, burying > >them, this sort of destruction is normally seen only after a strong > >tornado or volcanic eruption, a number of people, maybe 20 came down > to > >the beach to watch us fly over ,, my pilot said he counted about 100 > >people in total, some signalled us with sheets of white plastic, > others > >just sat there, we were unable to land as the island has no > airstrip...I > >will not speculate on the likely casualties or fatalities, if it is > not > >large it will be a miracle..... > > > >Phil's comments: > >At the moment Geoff is absolutely inundated by media enquiries so > it's > >impossible to phone him. Also, his web site is so popular that it is > >taking many, many minutes to load even using Broadband. > >Note that the pilot of Geoff's Cessna counted 100 people on the > ground > >on Tikopia, so it is not absolute destruction of the population as > was > >erroneously reported by some media reports. > > > >The survivors need prayer support as they face up to grieving for all > >their lost relatives and the massive job of rebuilding their homes > from > >scratch. > > > >Phil > ><>< > > > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > >MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: "James Holbeach" > >To: > >Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:54:23 +1100 > >Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone.reut/ > > > has an image > > > > > > and > > > > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5781215%255E2,00.html > > > > > > Does not look good :-( > > > > > > > > > > > > James Holbeach > > > -------------------------------- > > > Trapdoor Ski Club > > > Mt. Hotham, Australia > > > ph. 0417 553 757 > > > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > > > -------------------------------- > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of > stephen > > > galowski > > > Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation > > > > > > it has been report on ten news at 5 pm > > > that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman > onboard > > > over > > > the soloman islands > > > > > > and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no > sign > > > of life at all , and also reported that the death toll could go > higer > > > than 1300 > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 01:50:46 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation - no religious debate please! X-X-Sender: robert at tornado.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Anthony Cornelius wrote: > From the moment I read Phil's email I thought some fool would pipe their > little nose up about it. It's funny how many people get offended by the > mere thought of religion! Would the same reaction have been given had > some other type of support been proposed? I think not. Looks like another religion slanging match about to commence on the list. Would it be asking too much for every man and his dog NOT to voice their opinion about religion on this list??? I don't fancy the idea of having my mailbox filled with emails about nothing, which could result in me accidently missing an email of relevance, say something to do with weather which is what this list is about. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: aus-wx: Showers Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:48:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
well same time again last night jsut a vero not must at infact better last night with the showers that came in.
Regards
Michael Wright
S.E.S Member
 From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: aus-wx: Warning to all user of hotmail and msm Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:10:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Good Morning all
 
Just letting you no that their is and e-mail called zoedos at hotmail.com witch i recive late last night please be warned he is a hacter and he will destory your pc and live you with fully languish, I stongely sugest you e-mail nine msm  at  customer.service at ninemsn.com.au
if you recive this e-mail.
 
(sorry for the off topic)
 
Regards
Michael Wright
 From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe update on devistations Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:37:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
   instead of just the 2 atols it has hit
it is now confirmed that 3 atols have been hit
now the fate of upto 4000 people are unknowen
 
Stephen
 
 From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: update on the solomon islands from abc.net.au Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:56:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
 
it looks really bad
 
Phill Smith do you have any comments on this type of destruction ?
 
 
Stephen
 
 From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:47:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We are just north of the city in Invermay, abou 2.4 klms from the end of Doveton Street. The area used to be farmland but now houses on 5 acre blocks seem to be the current thing. If you live here you are supposed to have grape vines and make your own Chardonnay, but we think making wine is a waste of drinking time ;-) Besides, we used to be apple orchardists near Orange in NSW, and have an aversion to anything that need to be picked en-mass... Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 4:16 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home > I lived in and around Ballarat for a few years (1960s), where are you in > relation to Ballarat? > > Phil > <>< > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: aus-wx: New Year Resolutions Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:53:41 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I made a New Year Resolution back in 1981 which I have never broken - I resolved never to make another New Year Resolution... Besides, I could never be more nicer to people, I'm too old and cranky, and I just look for trouble because it is a lot less boring than being good ;-þ
 
Robyn
Pagan (but only if it upsets someone.)
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Happy New Year

Whats your revolution This year for 2003, mine is to say out of (TROUBLE) And to be more nicer to people. Anyway happy new year for 2003
 
Regards
Michael Wright 
 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 17:56:59 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Year Resolutions Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
lol robyn, you sound just like me you great big s**t stirrer.
 
richard
 

 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 2 January 2003 3:29:50 PM
Subject: aus-wx: New Year Resolutions
 
I made a New Year Resolution back in 1981 which I have never broken - I resolved never to make another New Year Resolution... Besides, I could never be more nicer to people, I'm too old and cranky, and I just look for trouble because it is a lot less boring than being good ;-þ
 
Robyn
Pagan (but only if it upsets someone.)
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Happy New Year

Whats your revolution This year for 2003, mine is to say out of (TROUBLE) And to be more nicer to people. Anyway happy new year for 2003
 
Regards
Michael Wright 
 
____________________________________________________
  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP45.gif: 00000001,3c4db48d,00000000,00000000 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:12:33 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
good on ya robert, you've made your views absolutley radiant, having been bought up as a christian in my early years and turned to science over the next 20, i express my views in the appropriate forums, whilst i agree with your views, your public slap in the face and attack on his beliefs, to phil on his concerned expression toward these people is dispicable and if you've got nothing better to say  other than attack someones beliefs then do your self and everyone else a favour  and don't post into this forum.
 
i'm with you phil, my heart and thoughts go out to these people who have been  basically cleaved off the map.......paradise lost.
 
richard 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 2 January 2003 12:29:16 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
 

Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must be tonight. And is it?

Dear Lord, help us stick to science!

Rob Hall 

>From: "Phil Smith"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
>Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:09:27 +0800
>
>From Geoff Mackley's site:
>
>Fate of 1,300 Unknown After Cyclone Zoe
>
> I flew over Tikopia Island at 0900 on Jan 01 in a Cessna and the island
>is a scene of total devastation..in my experience with severe weather
>the maximum winds on the island would have been between 300 and
>350kph...Tikopia Island would have been in the eyewall of Cyclone Zoe
>when it was at its peak strength, every tree on the island has been
>blown over or shredded, the island is completely denuded of vegetation,
>almost every building has been damaged, a few remain intact, while
>others have been shredded, and the sea has come through some villages
>and run into the lake which is the islands only water source, burying
>them, this sort of destruction is normally seen only after a strong
>tornado or volcanic eruption, a number of people, maybe 20 came down to
>the beach to watch us fly over ,, my pilot said he counted about 100
>people in total, some signalled us with sheets of white plastic, others
>just sat there, we were unable to land as the island has no airstrip...I
>will not speculate on the likely casualties or fatalities, if it is not
>large it will be a miracle.....
>
>Phil's comments:
>At the moment Geoff is absolutely inundated by media enquiries so it's
>impossible to phone him. Also, his web site is so popular that it is
>taking many, many minutes to load even using Broadband.
>Note that the pilot of Geoff's Cessna counted 100 people on the ground
>on Tikopia, so it is not absolute destruction of the population as was
>erroneously reported by some media reports.
>
>The survivors need prayer support as they face up to grieving for all
>their lost relatives and the massive job of rebuilding their homes from
>scratch.
>
>Phil
><><
>
>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "James Holbeach"
>To:
>Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:54:23 +1100
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
>
> > http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone.reut/
> > has an image
> >
> > and
> > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5781215%255E2,00.html
> >
> > Does not look good :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > James Holbeach
> > --------------------------------
> > Trapdoor Ski Club
> > Mt. Hotham, Australia
> > ph. 0417 553 757
> > http://www.trapdoor.com.au
> > --------------------------------
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen
> > galowski
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
> >
> > it has been report on ten news at 5 pm
> > that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard
> > over
> > the soloman islands
> >
> > and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign
> > of life at all , and also reported that the death toll could go higer
> > than 1300
> >
> > Stephen
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Holiday Greetings & Best New Year Wishes To All:
Heres the December, 2002 weather for Mena, Arkansas:
Avg. High:51.2F(10.6C)
Avg. Low:34.7F(1.5C)
       High:68F(20.0C) Dec 17
       Low:18F(-7.7C) Dec 25
Rain For Month:7.83IN(198.8mm)
                      (+3.53IN/+89.6mm)
Rain For Year (Final 2002):64.58IN(1,640.3mm)
                                      (+8.08IN/+205.2mm)
 
A few 2002 numbers:
High for Year:96F(35.5C) Aug 2, 3, 4, 6, 23
Low for Year: 9F(-12.7C) Mar 3
Wettest Day:4.00IN(101.6mm) Apr 7
Wettest Week:5.20IN(132.0mm) Mar 17-23
Snow for Year:5IN(127.0mm)
 
Enjoy your year (whats left of it!!!)
With Best Regards
Yours David Powell
 
 From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Monsoon..or is it too much to hope for..? Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:57:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
It's a while I think since the tropics looked this promising:
 
 
 
What chance I wonder of one of those mobile monsoon depressions, that love to trek westward across the NT and turn into west coast cyclones,  coming south this year and breaking the drought...?
 
Keith Barnett
Weather fanatic and classical musician
Website: http://www.wthrman.com
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 From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Monsoon..or is it too much to hope for..? Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:10:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
here is the correct site for the globeflast picture
 
Stephen
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Monsoon..or is it too much to hope for..?

It's a while I think since the tropics looked this promising:
 
 
 
What chance I wonder of one of those mobile monsoon depressions, that love to trek westward across the NT and turn into west coast cyclones,  coming south this year and breaking the drought...?
 
Keith Barnett
Weather fanatic and classical musician
Website: http://www.wthrman.com
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 From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Monsoon..or is it too much to hope for..? Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:55:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
it's better it has been over the past couple of year, may just may i say we could be in a good chance for a cat 5 cyclone this year.
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Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Monsoon..or is it too much to hope for..?

It's a while I think since the tropics looked this promising:
 
 
 
What chance I wonder of one of those mobile monsoon depressions, that love to trek westward across the NT and turn into west coast cyclones,  coming south this year and breaking the drought...?
 
Keith Barnett
Weather fanatic and classical musician
Website: http://www.wthrman.com
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 From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: aus-wx: The deadlyman Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:00:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The SOI show it's well into the 0 mark, could this been the end to the worst drought that we are having.
 
Regards
Michael Wright
(Nature Cant Storp Anything In It's Path)
 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warning to all user of hotmail and msm Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:01:49 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

It is actually far more prevalent than just that e-mail address.

 

There is a plethora of virus attachments coming through hotmail at the moment.

 

Any attachment that claims to be a free Screensaver or any other suspicious executable (*.pif, *.exe *.bat etc . . .) DO NOT OPEN- delete the e-mail immediately, even if it comes from a known source. Basically, if you did not ask for it, do not use it! J

 

A little bit of common sense is the best virus prevention

 

Cheers

 

James

James Holbeach

--------------------------------

Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Michael Wright
Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 12:11 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Warning to all user of hotmail and msm

 

Good Morning all

 

Just letting you no that their is and e-mail called zoedos at hotmail.com witch i recive late last night please be warned he is a hacter and he will destory your pc and live you with fully languish, I stongely sugest you e-mail nine msm  at  customer.service at ninemsn.com.au
if you recive this e-mail.

 

(sorry for the off topic)

 

Regards

Michael Wright

 From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:08:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I'm a non believer mate it's in your sprits mate,Trust me.  One Thing i hate is people knocking at your door to be prayed on and i really don't think this is the please to put in a thread about relishes people keep it clean i don't want to here it kkeep it to your self.
 
Regard
Michael Wright
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

good on ya robert, you've made your views absolutley radiant, having been bought up as a christian in my early years and turned to science over the next 20, i express my views in the appropriate forums, whilst i agree with your views, your public slap in the face and attack on his beliefs, to phil on his concerned expression toward these people is dispicable and if you've got nothing better to say  other than attack someones beliefs then do your self and everyone else a favour  and don't post into this forum.
 
i'm with you phil, my heart and thoughts go out to these people who have been  basically cleaved off the map.......paradise lost.
 
richard 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 2 January 2003 12:29:16 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
 

Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must be tonight. And is it?

Dear Lord, help us stick to science!

Rob Hall 

>From: "Phil Smith"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
>Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:09:27 +0800
>
>From Geoff Mackley's site:
>
>Fate of 1,300 Unknown After Cyclone Zoe
>
> I flew over Tikopia Island at 0900 on Jan 01 in a Cessna and the island
>is a scene of total devastation..in my experience with severe weather
>the maximum winds on the island would have been between 300 and
>350kph...Tikopia Island would have been in the eyewall of Cyclone Zoe
>when it was at its peak strength, every tree on the island has been
>blown over or shredded, the island is completely denuded of vegetation,
>almost every building has been damaged, a few remain intact, while
>others have been shredded, and the sea has come through some villages
>and run into the lake which is the islands only water source, burying
>them, this sort of destruction is normally seen only after a strong
>tornado or volcanic eruption, a number of people, maybe 20 came down to
>the beach to watch us fly over ,, my pilot said he counted about 100
>people in total, some signalled us with sheets of white plastic, others
>just sat there, we were unable to land as the island has no airstrip...I
>will not speculate on the likely casualties or fatalities, if it is not
>large it will be a miracle.....
>
>Phil's comments:
>At the moment Geoff is absolutely inundated by media enquiries so it's
>impossible to phone him. Also, his web site is so popular that it is
>taking many, many minutes to load even using Broadband.
>Note that the pilot of Geoff's Cessna counted 100 people on the ground
>on Tikopia, so it is not absolute destruction of the population as was
>erroneously reported by some media reports.
>
>The survivors need prayer support as they face up to grieving for all
>their lost relatives and the massive job of rebuilding their homes from
>scratch.
>
>Phil
><><
>
>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "James Holbeach"
>To:
>Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:54:23 +1100
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
>
> > http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone.reut/
> > has an image
> >
> > and
> > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5781215%255E2,00.html
> >
> > Does not look good :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > James Holbeach
> > --------------------------------
> > Trapdoor Ski Club
> > Mt. Hotham, Australia
> > ph. 0417 553 757
> > http://www.trapdoor.com.au
> > --------------------------------
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen
> > galowski
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
> >
> > it has been report on ten news at 5 pm
> > that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard
> > over
> > the soloman islands
> >
> > and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign
> > of life at all , and also reported that the death toll could go higer
> > than 1300
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
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michael
 
1)there are three people below your post, who are you talking to, or is it all three?.
 
2) what are you trying to say?
 
richard.
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 2 January 2003 7:49:41 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
 
I'm a non believer mate it's in your sprits mate,Trust me.  One Thing i hate is people knocking at your door to be prayed on and i really don't think this is the please to put in a thread about relishes people keep it clean i don't want to here it kkeep it to your self.
 
Regard
Michael Wright
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

good on ya robert, you've made your views absolutley radiant, having been bought up as a christian in my early years and turned to science over the next 20, i express my views in the appropriate forums, whilst i agree with your views, your public slap in the face and attack on his beliefs, to phil on his concerned expression toward these people is dispicable and if you've got nothing better to say  other than attack someones beliefs then do your self and everyone else a favour  and don't post into this forum.
 
i'm with you phil, my heart and thoughts go out to these people who have been  basically cleaved off the map.......paradise lost.
 
richard 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 2 January 2003 12:29:16 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
 

Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must be tonight. And is it?

Dear Lord, help us stick to science!

Rob Hall 

>From: "Phil Smith"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
>Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:09:27 +0800
>
>From Geoff Mackley's site:
>
>Fate of 1,300 Unknown After Cyclone Zoe
>
> I flew over Tikopia Island at 0900 on Jan 01 in a Cessna and the island
>is a scene of total devastation..in my experience with severe weather
>the maximum winds on the island would have been between 300 and
>350kph...Tikopia Island would have been in the eyewall of Cyclone Zoe
>when it was at its peak strength, every tree on the island has been
>blown over or shredded, the island is completely denuded of vegetation,
>almost every building has been damaged, a few remain intact, while
>others have been shredded, and the sea has come through some villages
>and run into the lake which is the islands only water source, burying
>them, this sort of destruction is normally seen only after a strong
>tornado or volcanic eruption, a number of people, maybe 20 came down to
>the beach to watch us fly over ,, my pilot said he counted about 100
>people in total, some signalled us with sheets of white plastic, others
>just sat there, we were unable to land as the island has no airstrip...I
>will not speculate on the likely casualties or fatalities, if it is not
>large it will be a miracle.....
>
>Phil's comments:
>At the moment Geoff is absolutely inundated by media enquiries so it's
>impossible to phone him. Also, his web site is so popular that it is
>taking many, many minutes to load even using Broadband.
>Note that the pilot of Geoff's Cessna counted 100 people on the ground
>on Tikopia, so it is not absolute destruction of the population as was
>erroneously reported by some media reports.
>
>The survivors need prayer support as they face up to grieving for all
>their lost relatives and the massive job of rebuilding their homes from
>scratch.
>
>Phil
><><
>
>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "James Holbeach"
>To:
>Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:54:23 +1100
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
>
> > http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone.reut/
> > has an image
> >
> > and
> > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5781215%255E2,00.html
> >
> > Does not look good :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > James Holbeach
> > --------------------------------
> > Trapdoor Ski Club
> > Mt. Hotham, Australia
> > ph. 0417 553 757
> > http://www.trapdoor.com.au
> > --------------------------------
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen
> > galowski
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
> >
> > it has been report on ten news at 5 pm
> > that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard
> > over
> > the soloman islands
> >
> > and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign
> > of life at all , and also reported that the death toll could go higer
> > than 1300
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
>
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The wind shear is looking promising from the past 12 hours,specially in the corral sea gose from wind shear in knots  0 to about 10 knots. The wind shear is about 10 knots over Townsville this is why it is so still tonight Ex Tropical cyclone zoe lays in 50 knots wind shear and were she lays the shear is decreasing.
 From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind shear Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:28:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
question
from a monitoring point of view
 
does any one on this list have a idea on how to measure this , or what type of instruments are needed
 
Stephen Galowski
monitor sensors ( software engineer)
 
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Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:08 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wind shear

The wind shear is looking promising from the past 12 hours,specially in the corral sea gose from wind shear in knots  0 to about 10 knots. The wind shear is about 10 knots over Townsville this is why it is so still tonight Ex Tropical cyclone zoe lays in 50 knots wind shear and were she lays the shear is decreasing.
 From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: DEC. 2002: Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:36:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
At least someone is getting good rainfall.
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:44 PM
Subject: aus-wx: DEC. 2002:

Holiday Greetings & Best New Year Wishes To All:
Heres the December, 2002 weather for Mena, Arkansas:
Avg. High:51.2F(10.6C)
Avg. Low:34.7F(1.5C)
       High:68F(20.0C) Dec 17
       Low:18F(-7.7C) Dec 25
Rain For Month:7.83IN(198.8mm)
                      (+3.53IN/+89.6mm)
Rain For Year (Final 2002):64.58IN(1,640.3mm)
                                      (+8.08IN/+205.2mm)
 
A few 2002 numbers:
High for Year:96F(35.5C) Aug 2, 3, 4, 6, 23
Low for Year: 9F(-12.7C) Mar 3
Wettest Day:4.00IN(101.6mm) Apr 7
Wettest Week:5.20IN(132.0mm) Mar 17-23
Snow for Year:5IN(127.0mm)
 
Enjoy your year (whats left of it!!!)
With Best Regards
Yours David Powell
 
 From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind shear Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:43:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Steven go to http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/tropic.html it tell you how to read wind shear hope this help you out
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind shear

question
from a monitoring point of view
 
does any one on this list have a idea on how to measure this , or what type of instruments are needed
 
Stephen Galowski
monitor sensors ( software engineer)
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:08 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wind shear

The wind shear is looking promising from the past 12 hours,specially in the corral sea gose from wind shear in knots  0 to about 10 knots. The wind shear is about 10 knots over Townsville this is why it is so still tonight Ex Tropical cyclone zoe lays in 50 knots wind shear and were she lays the shear is decreasing.
 From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:54:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Excellent pictures Rhett. It is good to see you had an active Christmas in your area. The Javascript that calls up the image window DOIMAGE is that a freely available script or is it a front page type extension ? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter > > Hi all, > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some reports and > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and lightning to > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking Line, > Rainbow > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series of photos > showing development of a storm on Christmas > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: Damage photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > Rhett > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Here I am stuck in Flat C on the 17th floor of one of fourteen 28-storey blocks of pigeon-holed people all at one street address, and you can't watch a storm approaching because of the mountains of towers all around. Ahhh how great it would be to be back in Buninyong, or Magpie, or Sebastopol. Or to nick down to Derrinallum on the motorbike to sit on Mount Elephant and watch those storms chase each other across the rolling Western plains. Geeeez watch it Phil - might start getting poetic here! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:47:28 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home > We are just north of the city in Invermay, abou 2.4 klms from the end > of > Doveton Street. The area used to be farmland but now houses on 5 acre > blocks > seem to be the current thing. If you live here you are supposed to have > grape vines and make your own Chardonnay, but we think making wine is a > waste of drinking time ;-) Besides, we used to be apple orchardists > near > Orange in NSW, and have an aversion to anything that need to be picked > en-mass... > > Robyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home > > > > I lived in and around Ballarat for a few years (1960s), where are you > in > > relation to Ballarat? > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 21:31:00 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: update on the solomon islands from abc.net.au X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Stephen, I could comment, as I did earlier, but some may not like me to do so. I have no desire to rile anyone, but when faced with such devastation, my earlier comment was the best I could come up with. Suffice it to say that, as there is nothing particularly practically useful I can do for all those people, I shall stick to my beliefs without necessarily sharing them, and act accordingly. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "stephen galowski" To: Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:56:49 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: update on the solomon islands from abc.net.au > http://www.abc.net.au/news/2003/01/item20030102010112_1.htm > > it looks really bad > > Phill Smith do you have any comments on this type of destruction ? > > > Stephen > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:14:03 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert. >Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? >If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must >be tonight. And is it? > >Dear Lord, help us stick to science! > >Rob Hall Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia. There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them. The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back pay owed to them before setting sail. Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft). Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run by apparently incompetent beaurocrats? Regards, Carl. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:31:59 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just shut the f*** up all of u- this is a tragedy, not a point scoring exercise . . . this kind of one upmanship is disgraceful and a sad inditement upon your own personal agendas. I agree 100% with Robert Goler . . . there is more here to worry about than some religion bashing/espousing. Grow up, children. . . . James p.s. I'm almost sad to say I got sucked into this . . . James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 1:14 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Hi Robert. >Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? >If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must >be tonight. And is it? > >Dear Lord, help us stick to science! > >Rob Hall Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia. There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them. The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back pay owed to them before setting sail. Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft). Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run by apparently incompetent beaurocrats? 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It creates the pop-up window and loads the bigger image based on the name of thumbnail. I've used some php (a scripting language) to generate the pop-up itself, but you could probably get it to work without php. In fact, I might give that a go when I get some time today. Rhett -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Thompson Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 10:54 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Excellent pictures Rhett. It is good to see you had an active Christmas in your area. The Javascript that calls up the image window DOIMAGE is that a freely available script or is it a front page type extension ? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter > > Hi all, > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some reports and > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and lightning to > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking Line, > Rainbow > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series of photos > showing development of a storm on Christmas > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: Damage photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > Rhett > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Lets get back to the real topic.. the tragedy unfolding over there.

I will say no more on this topic.



*Dale*




on 03/01/2003 01:31, James Holbeach at james at trapdoor.com.au wrote:

Just shut the f*** up all of u- this is a tragedy, not a point scoring
exercise . . . this kind of one upmanship is disgraceful and a sad
inditement upon your own personal agendas.

I agree 100% with Robert Goler . . . there is more here to worry about
than some religion bashing/espousing.

Grow up, children. . . .

James

p.s. I'm almost sad to say I got sucked into this . . .

James Holbeach
--------------------------------
Trapdoor Ski Club
Mt. Hotham, Australia
ph. 0417 553 757
http://www.trapdoor.com.au
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith
Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 1:14 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Hi Robert.

>Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this?
>If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must
>be tonight. And is it?
>
>Dear Lord, help us stick to science!
>
>Rob Hall
<snip>

Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia.
There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them
of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them.

The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an
hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently
polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills
for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back
pay owed to them before setting sail.

Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days
yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's
hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get
the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft).

Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run
by apparently incompetent beaurocrats?

Regards,
Carl.
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 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 09:52:08 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My dear outspoken James... This is not the first time Phil has had comments "against him" - and why? Because of his little signature at the end that says he is from an international Christian school! And then he makes a comment about "we should send our prayers" and then he gets slammed for it! The people who should grow up are those who are so dam closed minded about any issue that they resort to attack other people's religious beliefs! Yes I am a Christian - but never ONCE have I ever said a bad word about another religion or another person's beliefs in a similar respect. Everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe, but I think it's the ABSOLUTE HEIGHT OF DISRESPECT to say what they believe in is stupid, or anything to that respect which is what Robert Hall said to Phil. Now, let the Christians pray, the Wiccans do spells, the natives do ritualistic sacrifices and the aetheists hope...but it's sure better than doing nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AC (Apologies to aus-wx list people) James Holbeach wrote: > > Just shut the f*** up all of u- this is a tragedy, not a point scoring > exercise . . . this kind of one upmanship is disgraceful and a sad > inditement upon your own personal agendas. > > I agree 100% with Robert Goler . . . there is more here to worry about > than some religion bashing/espousing. > > Grow up, children. . . . > > James > > p.s. I'm almost sad to say I got sucked into this . . . > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 1:14 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation > > Hi Robert. > > >Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? > >If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must > >be tonight. And is it? > > > >Dear Lord, help us stick to science! > > > >Rob Hall > > > Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia. > There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them > of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them. > > The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an > hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently > polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills > for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back > pay owed to them before setting sail. > > Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days > yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's > hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get > the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft). > > Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run > by apparently incompetent beaurocrats? > > Regards, > Carl. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:25:26 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The photos of the storm development are my favourites. http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm How long was that sequence shot over? James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett & AJ Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 7:49 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Hi Michael, The 'doimage' javascript is something I wrote myself, so anyone can copy it if they like. It creates the pop-up window and loads the bigger image based on the name of thumbnail. I've used some php (a scripting language) to generate the pop-up itself, but you could probably get it to work without php. In fact, I might give that a go when I get some time today. Rhett -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Thompson Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 10:54 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Excellent pictures Rhett. It is good to see you had an active Christmas in your area. The Javascript that calls up the image window DOIMAGE is that a freely available script or is it a front page type extension ? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter > > Hi all, > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some reports and > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and lightning to > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking Line, > Rainbow > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series of photos > showing development of a storm on Christmas > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: Damage photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > Rhett > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Anthony what can I say... great photos as aways in your recent reports! (im back after 3 weeks holidays) Matt Smith Michael Thompson wrote: > I encountered a nice little severe storm on the 27th on the southern > tablelands. > > http://ozthunder.com/chase/chase32.htm > > The storm is a great example of how a wildcard factor can turn a marginal > day into a good one. In this case a weak SE change working up the south > coast, this provided a focus for storm intensification. > > Some great photos even if I say so myself. > > Michael > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 11:33:33 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Very nice Paul.... I bet the heart was pumping big time! well done.

Matt Smith

Paul Mossman wrote:

Hi all, Darwin had a tornado here this morning. My footage featured on the Local News (Channel 9). Here is the report:  http://www.crosstravel.com.au/Dec28.htm Anyone that may have saved Darwin Local for 23UTC 27 dec to 01 UTC 28 Dec I would love a copy please. :) Paul Mossman
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 now 890 millibars as per http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/0641.html latest analysis http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/20031.txt  Keith Barnett
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 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) From: Rhett Blanch To: "aussie-weather at world . std . com" Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 12:05:56 +1100 Subject: Re: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi James, The photos are over about an hour and a half. It was amazingly stationary for all that time. I also got it on video for about 50 minutes (until I ran out tape). The tape is a bit jumpy in places due to the wind coming over the ridge I was standing on moving the camera, but once compressed down to about 2 minutes it looks awesome as it pops-up. Rhett > James Holbeach wrote: > > The photos of the storm development are my favourites. > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > How long was that sequence shot over? > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett & > AJ > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 7:49 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from > Tamworth > and Hunter > > Hi Michael, > The 'doimage' javascript is something I wrote myself, so anyone can > copy > it > if they like. It creates the pop-up window and loads the bigger image > based > on the name of thumbnail. I've used some php (a scripting language) > to > generate the pop-up itself, but you could probably get it to work > without > php. In fact, I might give that a go when I get some time today. > > Rhett > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael > Thompson > Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 10:54 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from > Tamworth > and Hunter > > > Excellent pictures Rhett. It is good to see you had an active > Christmas > in > your area. > > The Javascript that calls up the image window DOIMAGE is that a > freely > available script or is it a front page type extension ? > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rhett & AJ" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:11 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth > and > Hunter > > > > > > Hi all, > > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some > reports > and > > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and > lightning > to > > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking > Line, > > Rainbow > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series > of > photos > > showing development of a storm on Christmas > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: > Damage > photos > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > > > Rhett > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > your > > message. > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- Rhett Blanch ---------------------------------------------------- 24/7: rhettaj at optusnet.com.au Work: rhett_blanch at pinpnt.com.au ---------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: A few more 2002 numbers: Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:13:41 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
G'January to All:
For 2002* in Mena, Arkansas:
AVG. HIGH: 69.3F(20.7C)
AVG. LOW: 48.7F(9.2C)
Mena's longest dry spell was 19 days--from Nov. 6-24.
*=Readings are for 353 days. (I was on vacation from June 25-July 6).
 
(If you're interested) for a more in-depth review of Mena's weather, I'll post it on my "Any Arkansas Weather Questions" thread in General Weather on Weatherzone.
Enjoy & Thanks
Best Wishes to All
David Powell
 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:43:58 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Can u put the movie up? I'd love to see it! James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett Blanch Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 12:06 PM To: aussie-weather at world . std . com Subject: Re: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Hi James, The photos are over about an hour and a half. It was amazingly stationary for all that time. I also got it on video for about 50 minutes (until I ran out tape). The tape is a bit jumpy in places due to the wind coming over the ridge I was standing on moving the camera, but once compressed down to about 2 minutes it looks awesome as it pops-up. Rhett > James Holbeach wrote: > > The photos of the storm development are my favourites. > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > How long was that sequence shot over? > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett & > AJ > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 7:49 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from > Tamworth > and Hunter > > Hi Michael, > The 'doimage' javascript is something I wrote myself, so anyone can > copy > it > if they like. It creates the pop-up window and loads the bigger image > based > on the name of thumbnail. I've used some php (a scripting language) > to > generate the pop-up itself, but you could probably get it to work > without > php. In fact, I might give that a go when I get some time today. > > Rhett > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael > Thompson > Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 10:54 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from > Tamworth > and Hunter > > > Excellent pictures Rhett. It is good to see you had an active > Christmas > in > your area. > > The Javascript that calls up the image window DOIMAGE is that a > freely > available script or is it a front page type extension ? > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rhett & AJ" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:11 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth > and > Hunter > > > > > > Hi all, > > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some > reports > and > > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and > lightning > to > > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking > Line, > > Rainbow > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series > of > photos > > showing development of a storm on Christmas > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: > Damage > photos > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > > > Rhett > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > your > > message. > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- Rhett Blanch ---------------------------------------------------- 24/7: rhettaj at optusnet.com.au Work: rhett_blanch at pinpnt.com.au ---------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:17:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You don't have to be like that, thats is my point of view alright why don't you, shut your f***ing mouth mate theses thing's happen and i live in a tropical cyclones area and have for 18 years you have to start over again in life you may lose some one in your life but you have to go on. Your the one who need to grow up not the people on the list if you don't like people what say just piss of and may be someone mite start liking you. DSorry for the swearing people make me so bloody cross and i said to mark in my e-mail if you going to stab me in the back look out i will fuck this site left rite and centre. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Holbeach" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:31 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation > Just shut the f*** up all of u- this is a tragedy, not a point scoring > exercise . . . this kind of one upmanship is disgraceful and a sad > inditement upon your own personal agendas. > > I agree 100% with Robert Goler . . . there is more here to worry about > than some religion bashing/espousing. > > Grow up, children. . . . > > James > > p.s. I'm almost sad to say I got sucked into this . . . > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 1:14 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation > > Hi Robert. > > >Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? > >If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must > >be tonight. And is it? > > > >Dear Lord, help us stick to science! > > > >Rob Hall > > > Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia. > There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them > of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them. > > The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an > hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently > polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills > for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back > pay owed to them before setting sail. > > Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days > yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's > hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get > the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft). > > Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run > by apparently incompetent beaurocrats? > > Regards, > Carl. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:40:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
Thanks dale, at lease someone is on my side like mark said to me just keep your comments to your self. i'm happy to give storm re-ports and feedback on tropical cyclones but i keep my comments to my self it stops the fighting on the e-mailing list and the weatherzone forum.
 
Like To Thank dale for is kind words
 
Michael Wright
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Small
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

I concur James, and vented my anger at some of these childish outbursts in the #weather chat last night.
Lets get back to the real topic.. the tragedy unfolding over there.

I will say no more on this topic.



*Dale*




on 03/01/2003 01:31, James Holbeach at james at trapdoor.com.au wrote:

Just shut the f*** up all of u- this is a tragedy, not a point scoring
exercise . . . this kind of one upmanship is disgraceful and a sad
inditement upon your own personal agendas.

I agree 100% with Robert Goler . . . there is more here to worry about
than some religion bashing/espousing.

Grow up, children. . . .

James

p.s. I'm almost sad to say I got sucked into this . . .

James Holbeach
--------------------------------
Trapdoor Ski Club
Mt. Hotham, Australia
ph. 0417 553 757
http://www.trapdoor.com.au
--------------------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith
Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 1:14 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Hi Robert.

>Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this?
>If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must
>be tonight. And is it?
>
>Dear Lord, help us stick to science!
>
>Rob Hall
<snip>

Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia.
There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them
of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them.

The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an
hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently
polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills
for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back
pay owed to them before setting sail.

Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days
yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's
hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get
the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft).

Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run
by apparently incompetent beaurocrats?

Regards,
Carl.
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 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 13:06:14 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Excuse me Michael

Please do not use me as a kind example, regarding your previous previous post to this mailing list, im completely offended by the language, actions and you as a person.

Im sorry if youre upset about that but this was completely uncalled for, and way off topic, not to mention way out of the guidelings and regulations of this mailing list.

Hang your head in shame, be tolerant to all religions.
The matter is being dealt with via appropriate channels.


Regards
Dale


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From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:24:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
Excuse me I'm not the fucking one who put the thread in so don't go fucking stabbing me in the back mate and i'm warming all of you now if you stab me in the back you have a fucking site to put your storm re0ports on. fucking grow up your self you fuck face
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Small
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Excuse me Michael

Please do not use me as a kind example, regarding your previous previous post to this mailing list, im completely offended by the language, actions and you as a person.

Im sorry if youre upset about that but this was completely uncalled for, and way off topic, not to mention way out of the guidelings and regulations of this mailing list.

Hang your head in shame, be tolerant to all religions.
The matter is being dealt with via appropriate channels.


Regards
Dale


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X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) From: Rhett Blanch To: "aussie-weather at world . std . com" Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 14:49:15 +1100 Subject: Re: RE: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'll have a look at how big it is when I get home - I think it might be 2MB. Will see what I can do. Rhett > James Holbeach wrote: > > Can u put the movie up? I'd love to see it! > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett > Blanch > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 12:06 PM > To: aussie-weather at world . std . com > Subject: Re: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from > Tamworth and Hunter > > Hi James, > The photos are over about an hour and a half. It was amazingly > stationary for all > that time. I also got it on video for about 50 minutes (until I ran > out > tape). The > tape is a bit jumpy in places due to the wind coming over the ridge I > was standing > on moving the camera, but once compressed down to about 2 minutes it > looks > awesome as it pops-up. > > Rhett > > > > > James Holbeach wrote: > > > > The photos of the storm development are my favourites. > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > > > How long was that sequence shot over? > > > > James Holbeach > > -------------------------------- > > Trapdoor Ski Club > > Mt. Hotham, Australia > > ph. 0417 553 757 > > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > > -------------------------------- > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett & > > AJ > > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 7:49 AM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from > > Tamworth > > and Hunter > > > > Hi Michael, > > The 'doimage' javascript is something I wrote myself, so anyone can > > copy > > it > > if they like. It creates the pop-up window and loads the bigger > image > > based > > on the name of thumbnail. I've used some php (a scripting language) > > to > > generate the pop-up itself, but you could probably get it to work > > without > > php. In fact, I might give that a go when I get some time today. > > > > Rhett > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael > > Thompson > > Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 10:54 PM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from > > Tamworth > > and Hunter > > > > > > Excellent pictures Rhett. It is good to see you had an active > > Christmas > > in > > your area. > > > > The Javascript that calls up the image window DOIMAGE is that a > > freely > > available script or is it a front page type extension ? > > > > Michael > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rhett & AJ" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:11 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth > > and > > Hunter > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some > > reports > > and > > > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > > > > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > > > > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and > > lightning > > to > > > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > > > > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > > > > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking > > Line, > > > Rainbow > > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > > > > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: > Series > > of > > photos > > > showing development of a storm on Christmas > > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > > > > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: > > Damage > > photos > > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > > > > > Rhett > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > of > > your > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > your > > message. > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > your > > message. > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > your > > message. > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > -+ > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > -- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > -+ > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > -- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > -+ > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > -- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > -+ > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > -- > > > Rhett Blanch > ---------------------------------------------------- > 24/7: rhettaj at optusnet.com.au > Work: rhett_blanch at pinpnt.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- Rhett Blanch ---------------------------------------------------- 24/7: rhettaj at optusnet.com.au Work: rhett_blanch at pinpnt.com.au ---------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:25:22 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
Hey hey hey, settle down folks and INCLUDED YOU Michael Wright. *Ahem* So why are you being so naughty lately Michael? I am not very impressed and very surprised. And you are acting like a naughty little boy. I guess owner will have to deal with it to fix that troublemaker of aussie weather email list. Now, I (even we) want you to improve your behaviour and send a big nice and gentle, good apologise to us. So think about it, calm down, get rid of your swearing addiction problem and behave yourself. Then thats better. Just please do as me told you to, it easy to settle down and just relax and forget about it.
 
From Nathan. Not very happy person like an aunty being so cross at a kid.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Excuse me I'm not the fucking one who put the thread in so don't go fucking stabbing me in the back mate and i'm warming all of you now if you stab me in the back you have a fucking site to put your storm re0ports on. fucking grow up your self you fuck face
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Small
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Excuse me Michael

Please do not use me as a kind example, regarding your previous previous post to this mailing list, im completely offended by the language, actions and you as a person.

Im sorry if youre upset about that but this was completely uncalled for, and way off topic, not to mention way out of the guidelings and regulations of this mailing list.

Hang your head in shame, be tolerant to all religions.
The matter is being dealt with via appropriate channels.


Regards
Dale


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From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: aus-wx: Swearing & abuse Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:57:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
If you wish to argue the point ans swear at each other, please do it privately off the list.
 
Jane ONeill
 X-Originating-IP: [211.28.96.69] From: "Karl Lijnders" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Swearing & abuse Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 15:24:05 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2003 04:24:05.0911 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3E4E270:01C2B2DF] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Amen to that! Karl >From: "Jane ONeill" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: Swearing & abuse >Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:57:42 +1100 > >Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastationIf you wish to argue the point ans swear at >each other, please do it privately off the list. > >Jane ONeill _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 04:52:40 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
Can someone please post the list owner's address. Thanks
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Wright
Sent: Friday, 03 January, 2003 03:25
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Excuse me  
 
snip 
 From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:03:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
go rite ahead mate your not going to have a site for much longer you want to stabb me in the back then i want my money back from the aswa
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Can someone please post the list owner's address. Thanks
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Wright
Sent: Friday, 03 January, 2003 03:25
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Excuse me  
 
snip 
 From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:08:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Does anyone know where I can find a list of weather / web-cams showing the areas present weather? I know of the McCleans Ridges webcam in Northern NSW which is brilliant & I view it all the time as the webcam looks over to my family's area. I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South East Qld area. If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld areas I would appreciate it! Damian I have redesigned 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.30.22] From: "Rune Peitersen" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:21:23 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2003 05:21:23.0356 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4C55DC0:01C2B2E7] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com yeah just think what you can do with all that money, another gram for your mull up bowl you psycho, or maybe a coupla chill out pills or even better a deckshonary for spelink propper. >From: "Michael Wright" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation >Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:03:45 +1000 > >Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastationgo rite ahead mate your not going to have a >site for much longer you want to stabb me in the back then i want my money >back from the aswa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laurier Williams > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 2:52 PM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation > > > Can someone please post the list owner's address. Thanks > > Laurier > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Wright > Sent: Friday, 03 January, 2003 03:25 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation > > > Excuse me > > snip _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:30:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com great for another topic damian 1. http://www.gympieweather.com 2. brisbane storm chasers have one apart from that damian i'm not aware of any others Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 3:08 PM Subject: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > Does anyone know where I can find a list of weather / web-cams showing the > areas present weather? > I know of the McCleans Ridges webcam in Northern NSW which is brilliant & I > view it all the time as the webcam looks over to my family's area. > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South East > Qld area. > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld > areas I would appreciate it! > > > > Damian > > I have redesigned 'My Website': > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) From: Rhett Blanch To: "aussie-weather at world . std . com" Cc: "aussie-weather at world . std . com" Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:45:15 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 1. This list is not related to aswa - what has aswa got to do with it? 2. If something happens to the aswa site then I think this list consitutes some good evidence on who is responsible - I have no problem contacting the police. 3. Can someone remove this person from the list please. Rhett +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:48:30 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Many of the Sno-cams operate over Summer http://www.ski.com.au Also Melbourne: http://www.omni-cam.com/ Sydney: http://www.viewsydney.com/index3.htm Sydney Harbor (a good one): http://www.holmanwebb.com.au/webcam.htm A whole bunch of costal cams: http://www.coastalwatch.com/ A simple google search showed these up James Holbeach ---------------------------------------- Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering University of Melbourne, Australia ph. +61 3 8344 6652 ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen galowski Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 4:31 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams great for another topic damian 1. http://www.gympieweather.com 2. brisbane storm chasers have one apart from that damian i'm not aware of any others Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 3:08 PM Subject: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > Does anyone know where I can find a list of weather / web-cams showing the > areas present weather? > I know of the McCleans Ridges webcam in Northern NSW which is brilliant & I > view it all the time as the webcam looks over to my family's area. > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South East > Qld area. > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld > areas I would appreciate it! > > > > Damian > > I have redesigned 'My Website': > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 05:50:39 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jane has a goodly selection on MSC at http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm. I have some at http://australianweathernews.com -- follow the links to current weather > WeatherCams. There used to be a neat masterlist of web cams at http://salsa.iinet.net.au/~kevinr1/Livecams.html, but this is no longer functioning. Anyone know of an alternative? Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Damian > Sent: Friday, 03 January, 2003 05:08 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > > > Does anyone know where I can find a list of weather / web-cams showing the > areas present weather? > I know of the McCleans Ridges webcam in Northern NSW which is > brilliant & I > view it all the time as the webcam looks over to my family's area. > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe > South East > Qld area. > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld > areas I would appreciate it! > > > > Damian > > I have redesigned 'My Website': > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 14:03:06 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some great photos there Rhett. Good work! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:11:15 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter > > Hi all, > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some reports > and > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and > lightning to > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking Line, > Rainbow > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series of > photos > showing development of a storm on Christmas > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: Damage > photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > Rhett > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Klipsi" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 07:06:03 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Does anyone know where I can find a list of weather / web-cams showing the > areas present weather? > I know of the McCleans Ridges webcam in Northern NSW which is brilliant & I > view it all the time as the webcam looks over to my family's area. > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South East > Qld area. > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld > areas I would appreciate it! I suggest to do searches on www.google.com , with search words " webcam Australia" "NSW webcam", skycam, etc. my favourite of all types of webcams are those which actually do live streaming (better with fast connection, dsl or cable) and are robotic, remote control . Made by Canon. (most in Japan, quite a few also in Europe and U.S.) . There is one in Sydney ! http://www.viewsydney.com/index3.htm you can tilt, pan, zoom in and out. see link for more > http://www.x-zone.canon.co.jp/WebView-E/all/list.htm not all existing webview cams are listed , sometimes you may find one which is not on the list. Klipsi +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: aus-wx: world webcams web cams live outdoor cameras Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:12:41 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This site contains aussie web cams  -  some are from the old site I think
Judy

 http://www.webcams-of-the-world.com/cams1.html Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\world webcams web cams live outdoor cameras.url" Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:08:11 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
for someone who private mailed me telling me the aus-wx list is not the place for this  sort of slanging you have just done an unbelievable job of contradicting yourself.
 
even as a hick town redneck i would never resort to the sort of offensive, disgusting trash and threats you wrote below.
 
you have proven to everyone here you are a truly awful person.
 
for the benefit of all the decent people on this list, will someone please remove this person from the list.
 
richard

 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Friday, 3 January 2003 2:00:20 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
 
Excuse me I'm not the fucking one who put the thread in so don't go fucking stabbing me in the back mate and i'm warming all of you now if you stab me in the back you have a fucking site to put your storm re0ports on. fucking grow up your self you fuck face
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Small
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Excuse me Michael

Please do not use me as a kind example, regarding your previous previous post to this mailing list, im completely offended by the language, actions and you as a person.

Im sorry if youre upset about that but this was completely uncalled for, and way off topic, not to mention way out of the guidelings and regulations of this mailing list.

Hang your head in shame, be tolerant to all religions.
The matter is being dealt with via appropriate channels.


Regards
Dale


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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP50.gif: 00000001,16347711,00000000,00000000 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:10:40 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
no apologies required here mate,
as always, well said AC.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Friday, 3 January 2003 10:31:11 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
 
My dear outspoken James...

This is not the first time Phil has had comments "against him" - and
why? Because of his little signature at the end that says he is from an
international Christian school! And then he makes a comment about "we
should send our prayers" and then he gets slammed for it! The people
who should grow up are those who are so dam closed minded about any
issue that they resort to attack other people's religious beliefs!

Yes I am a Christian - but never ONCE have I ever said a bad word about
another religion or another person's beliefs in a similar respect.
Everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe, but I think
it's the ABSOLUTE HEIGHT OF DISRESPECT to say what they believe in is
stupid, or anything to that respect which is what Robert Hall said to
Phil.

Now, let the Christians pray, the Wiccans do spells, the natives do
ritualistic sacrifices and the aetheists hope...but it's sure better
than doing nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AC (Apologies to aus-wx list people)

James Holbeach wrote:
>
> Just shut the f*** up all of u- this is a tragedy, not a point scoring
> exercise . . . this kind of one upmanship is disgraceful and a sad
> inditement upon your own personal agendas.
>
> I agree 100% with Robert Goler . . . there is more here to worry about
> than some religion bashing/espousing.
>
> Grow up, children. . . .
>
> James
>
> p.s. I'm almost sad to say I got sucked into this . . .
>
> James Holbeach
> --------------------------------
> Trapdoor Ski Club
> Mt. Hotham, Australia
> ph. 0417 553 757
> http://www.trapdoor.com.au
> --------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith
> Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 1:14 AM
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
>
> Hi Robert.
>
> >Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this?
> >If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must
> >be tonight. And is it?
> >
> >Dear Lord, help us stick to science!
> >
> >Rob Hall
> <snip>
>
> Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia.
> There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them
> of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them.
>
> The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an
> hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently
> polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills
> for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back
> pay owed to them before setting sail.
>
> Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days
> yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's
> hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get
> the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft).
>
> Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run
> by apparently incompetent beaurocrats?
>
> Regards,
> Carl.
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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP51.gif: 00000001,1e8818dc,00000000,00000000 From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 17:47:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Damian, all James Chambers has a great selection of SE Qld webcam links on his site http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/links.html#web I live in Redcliffe and planned to have a webcam up an running for this storm season but coudn't find a decent camera. I have 2 sitting here on the table that are absolutely hopeless - a cheap Kodak one (which i didn't have high hopes for but thought it was worth a try anyway) and another quite expensive outdoor security camera, which i was assured would do the job well. Both overexpose the sky to the point where anything above the horizon is pretty much a big white glow for most of the day. I just gave up! If anyone can recommend a good camera for the job i'd love to hear from you > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South East > Qld area. > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld > areas I would appreciate it! > > Damian > > I have redesigned 'My Website': > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ashton H Anderson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:55:13 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I'm a little surprised by all this and I do hope MW comes to his senses...threats are LOW.
Onya Richard...I support AC as well.
 
Ashton
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

no apologies required here mate,
as always, well said AC.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Friday, 3 January 2003 10:31:11 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
 
My dear outspoken James...

This is not the first time Phil has had comments "against him" - and
why? Because of his little signature at the end that says he is from an
international Christian school! And then he makes a comment about "we
should send our prayers" and then he gets slammed for it! The people
who should grow up are those who are so dam closed minded about any
issue that they resort to attack other people's religious beliefs!

Yes I am a Christian - but never ONCE have I ever said a bad word about
another religion or another person's beliefs in a similar respect.
Everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe, but I think
it's the ABSOLUTE HEIGHT OF DISRESPECT to say what they believe in is
stupid, or anything to that respect which is what Robert Hall said to
Phil.

Now, let the Christians pray, the Wiccans do spells, the natives do
ritualistic sacrifices and the aetheists hope...but it's sure better
than doing nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AC (Apologies to aus-wx list people)

James Holbeach wrote:
>
> Just shut the f*** up all of u- this is a tragedy, not a point scoring
> exercise . . . this kind of one upmanship is disgraceful and a sad
> inditement upon your own personal agendas.
>
> I agree 100% with Robert Goler . . . there is more here to worry about
> than some religion bashing/espousing.
>
> Grow up, children. . . .
>
> James
>
> p.s. I'm almost sad to say I got sucked into this . . .
>
> James Holbeach
> --------------------------------
> Trapdoor Ski Club
> Mt. Hotham, Australia
> ph. 0417 553 757
> http://www.trapdoor.com.au
> --------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith
> Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 1:14 AM
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
>
> Hi Robert.
>
> >Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this?
> >If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must
> >be tonight. And is it?
> >
> >Dear Lord, help us stick to science!
> >
> >Rob Hall
> <snip>
>
> Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia.
> There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them
> of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them.
>
> The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an
> hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently
> polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills
> for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back
> pay owed to them before setting sail.
>
> Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days
> yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's
> hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get
> the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft).
>
> Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run
> by apparently incompetent beaurocrats?
>
> Regards,
> Carl.
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ben, try putting a filter over the lens to cut the light down to say 30-50%, even if you go on the low side the cameras auto exposure should handle this as they're designed to work in low light conditions.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Friday, 3 January 2003 6:28:43 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams
 
G'day Damian, all

James Chambers has a great selection of SE Qld webcam links on his site

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/links.html#web

I live in Redcliffe and planned to have a webcam up an running for this
storm season but coudn't find a decent camera. I have 2 sitting here on the
table that are absolutely hopeless - a cheap Kodak one (which i didn't have
high hopes for but thought it was worth a try anyway) and another quite
expensive outdoor security camera, which i was assured would do the job
well. Both overexpose the sky to the point where anything above the horizon
is pretty much a big white glow for most of the day. I just gave up!

If anyone can recommend a good camera for the job i'd love to hear from you


> I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South
East
> Qld area.
> If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld
> areas I would appreciate it!
>
> Damian
>
> I have redesigned 'My Website':
> http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html

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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP53.gif: 00000001,0462013e,00000000,00000000 From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: aus-wx: Is the drought over? Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:41:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Well, we had a weather announcer tell us that the outlook for 2003 was for higher than average rainfall and lower than average temperatures... This is my kind of weather, but are they telling the truth, or is it just going to leave the drizzle-lovers all depressed and unhappy when nasty sunshine prevails?
 
Also, it is fairly easy to not receive emails if you don't want to. Just highlight the email, then go to "Messages" in your tool bar, then scroll down to "Block Sender" (make sure you have highlighted the correct email...) and click it. You will never be troubled again.
 
Robyn
 X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:52:12 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Michael Wright has just been removed from this mailing list. Jacob (Co-list owner) At 06:08 PM 3/01/2003 +1030, you wrote: > > for someone who private mailed me telling me the aus-wx list is not the place > for this sort of slanging you have just done an unbelievable job of > contradicting yourself. > > even as a hick town redneck i would never resort to the sort of offensive, > disgusting trash and threats you wrote below. > > you have proven to everyone here you are a truly awful person. > > for the benefit of all the decent people on this list, will someone please > remove this person from the list. > > richard > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Friday, 3 January 2003 2:00:20 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation > > Excuse me I'm not the fucking one who put the thread in so don't go fucking > stabbing me in the back mate and i'm warming all of you now if you stab me in > the back you have a fucking site to put your storm re0ports on. fucking grow > up your self you fuck face >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Dale Small >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:06 PM >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation >> >> Excuse me Michael >> >> Please do not use me as a kind example, regarding your previous previous >> post to this mailing list, im completely offended by the language, actions >> and you as a person. >> >> Im sorry if youre upset about that but this was completely uncalled for, and >> way off topic, not to mention way out of the guidelings and regulations of >> this mailing list. >> >> Hang your head in shame, be tolerant to all religions. >> The matter is being dealt with via appropriate channels. >> >> >> >> Regards >> Dale >> >> Stormchaser >> Rail & Aviation Fan >> >> Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association >> http://severeweather.asn.au/ >> >> Software Engineer, Senior Laser Operator - Laser Technician >> http://www.egr.com.au/ >> >> WeatherZone Forum Moderator >> http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi >> >> Cellphone: +61 409 501 906 (24 hours) >> >> >> ____________________________________________________ >> 47fe300.gif >> IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - >> Click Here >> > Attachment Converted: 47fe300.gif: 00000001,2e38435a,00000000,00000000 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:15:57 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I am planning to get a webcam up and running soon, will most likely use my Intel webcam which is pretty good. Ben your camera software should have settings for gamma, if you can find it, you should just be able to turn it down. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Quinn" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 6:47 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > G'day Damian, all > > James Chambers has a great selection of SE Qld webcam links on his site > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/links.html#web > > I live in Redcliffe and planned to have a webcam up an running for this > storm season but coudn't find a decent camera. I have 2 sitting here on the > table that are absolutely hopeless - a cheap Kodak one (which i didn't have > high hopes for but thought it was worth a try anyway) and another quite > expensive outdoor security camera, which i was assured would do the job > well. Both overexpose the sky to the point where anything above the horizon > is pretty much a big white glow for most of the day. I just gave up! > > If anyone can recommend a good camera for the job i'd love to hear from you > > > > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South > East > > Qld area. > > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld > > areas I would appreciate it! > > > > Damian > > > > I have redesigned 'My Website': > > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: meso at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 21:53:59 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Mal Ninnes Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You took the words right out of my mouth, Phillip :) Ben, I used to have a Logitech Quickcam (about $90 over 2 years ago) and it had software controls to adjust contrast & brightness, and also the gamma control that Phillip mentioned. Even settings to compensate for fluro lighting :) At 08:15 PM 1/3/03 +1100, you wrote: >I am planning to get a webcam up and running soon, will most likely use my >Intel webcam which is pretty good. Ben your camera software should have >settings for gamma, if you can find it, you should just be able to turn it >down. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ben Quinn" >To: >Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 6:47 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > > >> G'day Damian, all >> >> James Chambers has a great selection of SE Qld webcam links on his site >> >> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/links.html#web >> >> I live in Redcliffe and planned to have a webcam up an running for this >> storm season but coudn't find a decent camera. I have 2 sitting here on >the >> table that are absolutely hopeless - a cheap Kodak one (which i didn't >have >> high hopes for but thought it was worth a try anyway) and another quite >> expensive outdoor security camera, which i was assured would do the job >> well. Both overexpose the sky to the point where anything above the >horizon >> is pretty much a big white glow for most of the day. I just gave up! >> >> If anyone can recommend a good camera for the job i'd love to hear from >you >> >> >> > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South >> East >> > Qld area. >> > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East >Qld >> > areas I would appreciate it! >> > >> > Damian >> > >> > I have redesigned 'My Website': >> > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Snow!! Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 22:55:02 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From Les Crossan in Wallsend UK.... ............................................................ Here's a few pictures to cheer you all up if you want to see some snow.... http://www.cc0020209.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/snow.htm Les Les Crossan, Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 55N 01-30W, Home of the Wallsend Stormcam - http://www.uksevereweather.org.uk 80.194.229.142:8000 /listen.pls +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:20:25 +1000 To: aussie-weather-list From: Carl Smith Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to three years to become self-sufficient in food again. Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, Carl. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:25:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com One of the webcam programs i downloaded did have brightness/contrast and i think gamma controls but i found this of little help. At the best of times the image would have reasonably good colour balance but would lack cloud detail. Say if a large cumulus was in view you'd be able to see the general outline/shape but inside the shape would be completely overexposed with no updraft detail visible at all, if you can picture that. I'd upload an example but i don't seem to have kep any. I'll set it all up again tomorrow and try again i guess. From: "Mal Ninnes" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 8:53 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > You took the words right out of my mouth, Phillip :) > > Ben, I used to have a Logitech Quickcam (about $90 over 2 years ago) and it > had software controls to adjust contrast & brightness, and also the gamma > control that Phillip mentioned. Even settings to compensate for fluro > lighting :) > > > At 08:15 PM 1/3/03 +1100, you wrote: > >I am planning to get a webcam up and running soon, will most likely use my > >Intel webcam which is pretty good. Ben your camera software should have > >settings for gamma, if you can find it, you should just be able to turn it > >down. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ben Quinn" > >To: > >Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 6:47 PM > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > > > > > >> G'day Damian, all > >> > >> James Chambers has a great selection of SE Qld webcam links on his site > >> > >> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/links.html#web > >> > >> I live in Redcliffe and planned to have a webcam up an running for this > >> storm season but coudn't find a decent camera. I have 2 sitting here on > >the > >> table that are absolutely hopeless - a cheap Kodak one (which i didn't > >have > >> high hopes for but thought it was worth a try anyway) and another quite > >> expensive outdoor security camera, which i was assured would do the job > >> well. Both overexpose the sky to the point where anything above the > >horizon > >> is pretty much a big white glow for most of the day. I just gave up! > >> > >> If anyone can recommend a good camera for the job i'd love to hear from > >you > >> > >> > >> > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South > >> East > >> > Qld area. > >> > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East > >Qld > >> > areas I would appreciate it! > >> > > >> > Damian > >> > > >> > I have redesigned 'My Website': > >> > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > >> > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >> message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >> > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Brooker, Sean SD" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Information: Port Hedland Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:42:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Information: Port Hedland

Very intense lightning storm over Port Hedland at the moment.
Threatening heavy rain but will probably bypass us again
Wind is up around to 50 kph mark

Good news about finding survivors after Zoe.

Sean

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 From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:45:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I've put the video up of the development of the storm near Scone on Christmas day, you can download it from here: http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm Rhett +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:47:01 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That is welcome news. I too was fearing the worst. I can't imagine how they could have survived the storm surge . . . I feel I should also apologise for my previous outburst. While I stand by what I said, the use of an expletive was not really justified. James James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:20 AM To: aussie-weather-list Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Hi All. Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to three years to become self-sufficient in food again. Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, Carl. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:06:20 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com WOW . . .W O W Excellent stuff! It is amazing the way it just remains stationary for the entire time! Thank you! James James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett & AJ Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:46 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Hi all, I've put the video up of the development of the storm near Scone on Christmas day, you can download it from here: http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm Rhett +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 00:10:05 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Thats fantastic news indeed.
Certainly a most tragic even under any circumstances.. reading that made me smile.


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From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:10:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com AWESOME Stuff Rhett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:45 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter > Hi all, > I've put the video up of the development of the storm near Scone on > Christmas day, you can download it from here: > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > Rhett > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:50:01 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I had the same probs with mine, sometimes good colour, most times over exposed. doesn't matter now, the webcam i used doesn't like me a **** it self. i found that a proggy called KABcam work the best. with the ability to adjust the gamma/brightness/contrast etc etc, WHILE it was in capture mode, otheres i had tried wouldn't do that, so you had to stop and start the thing everytime you wanted to adjust something. Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Quinn" To: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:25 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > One of the webcam programs i downloaded did have brightness/contrast and i > think gamma controls but i found this of little help. At the best of times > the image would have reasonably good colour balance but would lack cloud > detail. Say if a large cumulus was in view you'd be able to see the general > outline/shape but inside the shape would be completely overexposed with no > updraft detail visible at all, if you can picture that. I'd upload an > example but i don't seem to have kep any. I'll set it all up again tomorrow > and try again i guess. > > > From: "Mal Ninnes" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 8:53 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > > > > You took the words right out of my mouth, Phillip :) > > > > Ben, I used to have a Logitech Quickcam (about $90 over 2 years ago) and > it > > had software controls to adjust contrast & brightness, and also the gamma > > control that Phillip mentioned. Even settings to compensate for fluro > > lighting :) > > > > > > At 08:15 PM 1/3/03 +1100, you wrote: > > >I am planning to get a webcam up and running soon, will most likely use > my > > >Intel webcam which is pretty good. Ben your camera software should have > > >settings for gamma, if you can find it, you should just be able to turn > it > > >down. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Ben Quinn" > > >To: > > >Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 6:47 PM > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > > > > > > > > >> G'day Damian, all > > >> > > >> James Chambers has a great selection of SE Qld webcam links on his site > > >> > > >> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/links.html#web > > >> > > >> I live in Redcliffe and planned to have a webcam up an running for this > > >> storm season but coudn't find a decent camera. I have 2 sitting here > on > > >the > > >> table that are absolutely hopeless - a cheap Kodak one (which i didn't > > >have > > >> high hopes for but thought it was worth a try anyway) and another quite > > >> expensive outdoor security camera, which i was assured would do the job > > >> well. Both overexpose the sky to the point where anything above the > > >horizon > > >> is pretty much a big white glow for most of the day. I just gave up! > > >> > > >> If anyone can recommend a good camera for the job i'd love to hear from > > >you > > >> > > >> > > >> > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe > South > > >> East > > >> > Qld area. > > >> > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South > East > > >Qld > > >> > areas I would appreciate it! > > >> > > > >> > Damian > > >> > > > >> > I have redesigned 'My Website': > > >> > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > >> > > >> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > >> message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > >> > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:36:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, This is certainly better news than was delivered by the various late night TV news this evening, all of which said no aid would reach the islands before Sunday at the earliest, due mainly to unbelievable bureaucratic bungling. The same news reports now mention winds up to 400kph (a tad of an exaggeration one feels) but did show some amazing scenes of villages almost totally buried in sand. You can't help but feel for the survivors - watching the odd plane fly by grabbing some footage, and nothing else... I find it difficult to reconcile that we live in a world where, at short notice, we can apparently deliver 100,000 troops into the middle of a desert just in case we want to start a war, yet can't help these people until a week after the event. John. p.s., Thankyou Jacob! >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:20 AM To: aussie-weather-list Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Hi All. Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to three years to become self-sufficient in food again. Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, Carl. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Marshall Heaven" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:04:41 -0500 Organization: M.H. Heaven Real Estate LLC X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host7.imagelinkusa.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - heaveningreenwich.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of John Woodbridge Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 10:37 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Hi All, This is certainly better news than was delivered by the various late night TV news this evening, all of which said no aid would reach the islands before Sunday at the earliest, due mainly to unbelievable bureaucratic bungling. The same news reports now mention winds up to 400kph (a tad of an exaggeration one feels) but did show some amazing scenes of villages almost totally buried in sand. You can't help but feel for the survivors - watching the odd plane fly by grabbing some footage, and nothing else... I find it difficult to reconcile that we live in a world where, at short notice, we can apparently deliver 100,000 troops into the middle of a desert just in case we want to start a war, yet can't help these people until a week after the event. John. p.s., Thankyou Jacob! >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:20 AM To: aussie-weather-list Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Hi All. Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to three years to become self-sufficient in food again. Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, Carl. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: images of zoe Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 09:44:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
here is a web site courtsey of the rig mailing list and from david taylor ( england)
 
For a brief text and SeaWiFS images
Stephen
 
 From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Trackers Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 10:47:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I love those lightning trackers but have no idea how they work! Does anyone know exactly how a lighning tracker tracks the lighning bolts??? Damian 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 11:05:48 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 11:20 PM 3/01/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi All. > >Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in a >large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. > >He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about 1000 >people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for 4 days >whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, which was a >far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he was expecting to >find mainly bloated decaying bodies. Good to hear there were so many survivors. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 11:08:36 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 01:36 AM 4/01/2003 +1000, you wrote: >I find it difficult to reconcile that we live in a world where, at short >notice, we can apparently deliver 100,000 troops into the middle of a desert >just in case we want to start a war, yet can't help these people until a >week after the event. That sort of thing does make one wonder... But at least the island bears some good news for a change. Let's hope they can get supplies to those people and make sure they continue to be survivors. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning Trackers Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 10:09:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com take a look here damian http://www.gpats.com.au this is the official supplier to the bureau of meteorology Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Trackers > I love those lightning trackers but have no idea how they work! > Does anyone know exactly how a lighning tracker tracks the lighning bolts??? > > > Damian > 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning Trackers To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:12:59 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 04/01/2003 11:13:00 AM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI Damien. |--------------------------+--------------------------| | How does it work? | By viewing the colour | | LPATS GPS receiver | changes of the strike | | stations at *25 locations| symbols, Country Energy's| | in Australia detect | system control staff can | | lightning strikes. 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The map |Coffs Harbour NSW | | display is refreshed |Darwin NT | | every few seconds and the|East Ceduna SA | | colours of individual |East Sale VIC | | strike symbols change as |Geraldton WA | | they age. |Hobart TAS | | |Kalgoorlie WA | | |Lismore NSW | | |Longreach QLD | | |Meekatharra WA | | |Mildura VIC | | |Moree NSW | | |Mt Gambier SA | | |Mt Isa QLD | | |Rockhampton QLD | | |Roma QLD | | |Sydney NSW | | |Tennant Creek NT | | |Woomera SA | |--------------------------+--------------------------| "Damian" To: Sent by: cc: aussie-weather-approval at wor Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Trackers ld.std.com 04/01/2003 10:47 AM Please respond to aussie-weather I love those lightning trackers but have no idea how they work! Does anyone know exactly how a lighning tracker tracks the lighning bolts??? Damian 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 08:16:06 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow! What a great video! It gives you a sense of the build-up of enormous power in that storm. Thanks for sharing it with us. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:45:33 +1100 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter > Hi all, > I've put the video up of the development of the storm near Scone on > Christmas day, you can download it from here: > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > Rhett > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: question on Grafton radar Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:28:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Could some one tell me why there is always spots of rain on the Grafton radar just to the North of Grafton??
I mean it is 'always' there!
What is it?
It couldn't be interferance all the time?
 
 
 
 From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Thankyou Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:37:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks for the very informative answers to my questions on lightning trackers & weather-cams yesterday peoples! Damian 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: question on Grafton radar Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:39:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Due to 'ground clutter' which could be local obstructions, depending on the type of radar and its sensitivity. See
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:28 PM
Subject: aus-wx: question on Grafton radar

Could some one tell me why there is always spots of rain on the Grafton radar just to the North of Grafton??
I mean it is 'always' there!
What is it?
It couldn't be interferance all the time?
 
 
 
 X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:52:13 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Hi All, > >This is certainly better news than was delivered by the various late night >TV news this evening, all of which said no aid would reach the islands >before Sunday at the earliest, due mainly to unbelievable bureaucratic >bungling. The same news reports now mention winds up to 400kph (a tad of an >exaggeration one feels) but did show some amazing scenes of villages almost >totally buried in sand. > >You can't help but feel for the survivors - watching the odd plane fly by >grabbing some footage, and nothing else... > >I find it difficult to reconcile that we live in a world where, at short >notice, we can apparently deliver 100,000 troops into the middle of a desert >just in case we want to start a war, yet can't help these people until a >week after the event. It is ironic that it took the self-funded efforts of one individual, videographer and storm chaser Geoff Mackley, to both alert the world to the tragedy and to deliver the first practical relief. Whatever funds he gets from selling his footage and photos are certainly well deserved. Carl. > >John. > >p.s., Thankyou Jacob! > >>snip >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith >Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:20 AM >To: aussie-weather-list >Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > >Hi All. > >Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in >a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. > >He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about >1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for >4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, >which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he >was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. > >Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated >and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to >three years to become self-sufficient in food again. > >Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, >Carl. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au (Unverified) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:03:53 +1000 To: aussie-weather-list From: Carl Smith Subject: aus-wx: Even better news from cyclone ravaged Tikopia Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. Read Geoff Mackley's report in a world exclusive article at: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,5793113,00.html Regards, Carl. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 14:07:42 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Even better news from cyclone ravaged Tikopia From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Even better news from cyclone ravaged Tikopia on 04/01/2003 13:03, Carl Smith at carls at qldnet.com.au wrote:

Hi All.

Read Geoff Mackley's report in a world exclusive article at:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,5793113,00.html






An amazing story of survival indeed, thankyou for sharing that.
What is even more amazing is the video footage by Geoff himself from ground zero, that has been screened on sky news this morning.

Simply unbelievable and shows the strength and will of the human spirit.
Geoff deserves more credit for his faultless efforts than could be imaginable.


Regards
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From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: update on the solomon islands from abc.net.au Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 23:17:45 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I don't mean to disagree with you Stephen, but I reckon a lot of these people will still be ok. They are (apparently) one of the most isolated people in the world and bury food and water to prepare for the cyclones etc. I'm an optimist and are hoping that they are all ok. But gee, you have to wonder.....
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:56 PM
Subject: aus-wx: update on the solomon islands from abc.net.au

 
it looks really bad
 
Phill Smith do you have any comments on this type of destruction ?
 
 
Stephen
 
 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: aus-wx: Ballarat Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 23:27:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've just come home from a few days in Ballarat. Bugger. Could've said "hello". Must admit the few days in the "cooler" climate" felt good. We probably looked like dorks, walking around with a jumper on after our 35+ degree days and coming to cloudy and low 20's. Came home as the kids were homesick. :-( ----- Original Message ----- From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home > We are just north of the city in Invermay, abou 2.4 klms from the end of > Doveton Street. The area used to be farmland but now houses on 5 acre blocks > seem to be the current thing. If you live here you are supposed to have > grape vines and make your own Chardonnay, but we think making wine is a > waste of drinking time ;-) Besides, we used to be apple orchardists near > Orange in NSW, and have an aversion to anything that need to be picked > en-mass... > > Robyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home > > > > I lived in and around Ballarat for a few years (1960s), where are you in > > relation to Ballarat? > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warning to all user of hotmail and msm Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 23:40:00 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Sorry for the short post and it's been said a million times before. Get an up to date virus checker everyone, and do a system check on a regular basis. I have Norton 2002 which does an incoming mail scan as well as a constant memory scan and also scans ALL outgoing mail. It's a small cost for the piece of mind.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:01 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warning to all user of hotmail and msm

It is actually far more prevalent than just that e-mail address.

 

There is a plethora of virus attachments coming through hotmail at the moment.

 

Any attachment that claims to be a free Screensaver or any other suspicious executable (*.pif, *.exe *.bat etc . . .) DO NOT OPEN- delete the e-mail immediately, even if it comes from a known source. Basically, if you did not ask for it, do not use it! J

 

A little bit of common sense is the best virus prevention

 

Cheers

 

James

James Holbeach

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Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Michael Wright
Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 12:11 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Warning to all user of hotmail and msm

 

Good Morning all

 

Just letting you no that their is and e-mail called zoedos at hotmail.com witch i recive late last night please be warned he is a hacter and he will destory your pc and live you with fully languish, I stongely sugest you e-mail nine msm  at  customer.service at ninemsn.com.au
if you recive this e-mail.

 

(sorry for the off topic)

 

Regards

Michael Wright

 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Swearing & abuse Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 23:59:05 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
Agreed :-)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 2:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Swearing & abuse

If you wish to argue the point ans swear at each other, please do it privately off the list.
 
Jane ONeill
 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 00:08:13 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great news!!! Thanks mate. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Smith" To: "aussie-weather-list" Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:20 AM Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > Hi All. > > Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in > a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. > > He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about > 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for > 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, > which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he > was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. > > Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated > and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to > three years to become self-sufficient in food again. > > Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, > Carl. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 00:11:32 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Gotta jump in here! Why can we fly a plane in to see how many "dead" people there are yet not take even a biscuit for any survivors that we can throw out the window? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:36 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > Hi All, > > This is certainly better news than was delivered by the various late night > TV news this evening, all of which said no aid would reach the islands > before Sunday at the earliest, due mainly to unbelievable bureaucratic > bungling. The same news reports now mention winds up to 400kph (a tad of an > exaggeration one feels) but did show some amazing scenes of villages almost > totally buried in sand. > > You can't help but feel for the survivors - watching the odd plane fly by > grabbing some footage, and nothing else... > > I find it difficult to reconcile that we live in a world where, at short > notice, we can apparently deliver 100,000 troops into the middle of a desert > just in case we want to start a war, yet can't help these people until a > week after the event. > > John. > > p.s., Thankyou Jacob! > > >snip > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith > Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:20 AM > To: aussie-weather-list > Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > > Hi All. > > Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in > a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. > > He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about > 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for > 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, > which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he > was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. > > Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated > and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to > three years to become self-sufficient in food again. > > Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, > Carl. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 01:33:13 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Bussy et al, as I type Geoff Mackley is preparing to fly a second helicopter mission with more supplies for the people of Tikopia to arrive there on the early morning of 5th January 2003. He has been hired this time by a European client to do so. Meanwhile the first government-funded aid vessels are slowly headed in that general direction... (The first vessel should have arrived late this arvo, but I have not heard anything official on it yet). It is amazing to me that a private individual can accomplish so much while the governments are still pondering what to do. But then as Geoff would say, "It's my job; I make my living storm chasing and selling the photographs." He deserves every cent he gets for his sales in my book. I have been following Geoff by e-mail and web to storms around the world for a great many years. He's the kind of bloke who just hops in and gets things done if he can see something that needs doing. Whenever he is actively working in an active storm area, you will see a link in my coverage of that particular storm on http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm so you may keep up with this modern-day adventurer. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Bussy" To: Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 00:11:32 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > Gotta jump in here! Why can we fly a plane in to see how many "dead" > people > there are yet not take even a biscuit for any survivors that we can > throw > out the window? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Woodbridge" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:36 AM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > > > > Hi All, > > > > This is certainly better news than was delivered by the various late > night > > TV news this evening, all of which said no aid would reach the > islands > > before Sunday at the earliest, due mainly to unbelievable > bureaucratic > > bungling. The same news reports now mention winds up to 400kph (a > tad of > an > > exaggeration one feels) but did show some amazing scenes of villages > almost > > totally buried in sand. > > > > You can't help but feel for the survivors - watching the odd plane > fly by > > grabbing some footage, and nothing else... > > > > I find it difficult to reconcile that we live in a world where, at > short > > notice, we can apparently deliver 100,000 troops into the middle of a > desert > > just in case we want to start a war, yet can't help these people > until a > > week after the event. > > > > John. > > > > p.s., Thankyou Jacob! > > > > >snip > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl > Smith > > Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:20 AM > > To: aussie-weather-list > > Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > > > > Hi All. > > > > Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in > > a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. > > > > He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about > > 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for > > 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, > > which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he > > was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. > > > > Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated > > and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to > > three years to become self-sufficient in food again. > > > > Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, > > Carl. > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ballarat Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 16:39:57 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well next time you come through, drop in. If it is really cold, (like 20 degrees), we will even put the fire on for you... hahaha We understand about the jumpers - we used to live in Paraburdoo. One day we flew to Perth. It was 45 degrees when we left and 9 degrees when we landed. We got into a taxi and told him to take us to the nearest shop that sold jumpers... Robyn Ballarat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bussy" To: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:27 PM Subject: aus-wx: Ballarat > I've just come home from a few days in Ballarat. Bugger. Could've said > "hello". > Must admit the few days in the "cooler" climate" felt good. We probably > looked like dorks, walking around with a jumper on after our 35+ degree days > and coming to cloudy and low 20's. > Came home as the kids were homesick. :-( > ----- Original Message ----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 09:08:36 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey James Great Cb development photos. They are stunning. Looks like it shot up quite fast. Congrads. Deano ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Holbeach" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 11:25 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter > The photos of the storm development are my favourites. > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > How long was that sequence shot over? > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett & AJ > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 7:49 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth > and Hunter > > Hi Michael, > The 'doimage' javascript is something I wrote myself, so anyone can copy > it > if they like. It creates the pop-up window and loads the bigger image > based > on the name of thumbnail. I've used some php (a scripting language) to > generate the pop-up itself, but you could probably get it to work > without > php. In fact, I might give that a go when I get some time today. > > Rhett > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael > Thompson > Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 10:54 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth > and Hunter > > > Excellent pictures Rhett. It is good to see you had an active Christmas > in > your area. > > The Javascript that calls up the image window DOIMAGE is that a freely > available script or is it a front page type extension ? > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rhett & AJ" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:11 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and > Hunter > > > > > > Hi all, > > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some reports > and > > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and > lightning > to > > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking Line, > > Rainbow > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series of > photos > > showing development of a storm on Christmas > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: Damage > photos > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > > > Rhett > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 09:23:35 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good point John! Shows you where the primary concern of the government is doesn't it! Deano ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:36 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > Hi All, > > This is certainly better news than was delivered by the various late night > TV news this evening, all of which said no aid would reach the islands > before Sunday at the earliest, due mainly to unbelievable bureaucratic > bungling. The same news reports now mention winds up to 400kph (a tad of an > exaggeration one feels) but did show some amazing scenes of villages almost > totally buried in sand. > > You can't help but feel for the survivors - watching the odd plane fly by > grabbing some footage, and nothing else... > > I find it difficult to reconcile that we live in a world where, at short > notice, we can apparently deliver 100,000 troops into the middle of a desert > just in case we want to start a war, yet can't help these people until a > week after the event. > > John. > > p.s., Thankyou Jacob! > > >snip > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith > Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:20 AM > To: aussie-weather-list > Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > > Hi All. > > Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in > a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. > > He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about > 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for > 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, > which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he > was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. > > Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated > and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to > three years to become self-sufficient in food again. > > Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, > Carl. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 17:37:58 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aus-wx Subject: aus-wx: New Weather Photos Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, I've uploaded some new photos from recent months up at: http://www.downunderchase.com/photogallery/new.html Hope you enjoy them! -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.228.6] From: "Ben Jerrems" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Weather Photos Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 22:38:40 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2003 11:38:40.0257 (UTC) FILETIME=[28A79710:01C2B578] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

You have some very nice photo's :)

Ben
BEANZVISION Photographics.

 


Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 23:21:45 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Weather Photos Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Anthony, Nice pics!!! Jimmy Deguara At 05:37 PM 6/1/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I've uploaded some new photos from recent months up at: > >http://www.downunderchase.com/photogallery/new.html > >Hope you enjoy them! > >-- >Anthony Cornelius >Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the >Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) >(07) 3390 4812 >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Bathurst lightning Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 00:06:47 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
 
Nice lightning show behind Mt Panorama at the moment. 2-3 flashes every 10 seconds. 
 
Had some earlier storms around Condobolin , Cowra areas this afternoon. A few blackouts reported.
 
Seems like some rain heading to Bx in next 30 min .
 
Dave
 
 From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Weather Photos Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 03:01:07 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Ants Nice work!!!! 1 thing thoough, the 2 Thumbnails in the third row that are the same image, link to entirely diffent images Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: aus-wx: New Weather Photos > Hi everyone, > > I've uploaded some new photos from recent months up at: > > http://www.downunderchase.com/photogallery/new.html > > Hope you enjoy them! > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: aus-wx: Darwin - coldest capital city today (7/1) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 08:30:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, A little bit of trivia - but couldn't help notice that with a forecast top of 28 today, Darwin is forecast to be the equal coolest capital city (Hobart is also expecting 28). Darwin's1000-500hpa thickness still remains close to 580dm - well above that in any of the other capitals (I would hate to be in Melbourne if were it to experience such a high thickness value!!). The BoM forecasts for the other capitals today are: PERTH Fine, windy. Max 34 ADELAIDE Dry. Becoming milder. Max 33 MELBOURNE Afternoon cool change. Max 37 HOBART Fine. Max 28 CANBERRA Dry, Hot. Max 35 SYDNEY Chance late shower or storm. Max 29 BRISBANE Fine Max 30 Patrick +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin - coldest capital city today (7/1) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:19:15 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hi all, > > A little bit of trivia - but couldn't help notice that with a forecast top > of 28 today, Darwin is forecast to be the equal coolest capital city (Hobart > is also expecting 28). > > Darwin's1000-500hpa thickness still remains close to 580dm - well above that > in any of the other capitals (I would hate to be in Melbourne if were it to > experience such a high thickness value!!). > > The BoM forecasts for the other capitals today are: > > PERTH Fine, windy. Max 34 > ADELAIDE Dry. Becoming milder. Max 33 > MELBOURNE Afternoon cool change. Max 37 > HOBART Fine. Max 28 > CANBERRA Dry, Hot. Max 35 > SYDNEY Chance late shower or storm. Max 29 > BRISBANE Fine Max 30 > > Unfortunately Darwin's already made it to 31.0, rather spoiling that record (presumably the cloud hasn't spread west as quickly as expected). Hobart's blown through its forecast max even more spectacularly (33.8 so far). Only 25.3 at Sydney though... Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:48:38 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Weather Photos X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com There's some excellent photos in that group; several you could put on calendars. And it's always good for me to see the land I love. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Cornelius To: Aus-wx Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 17:37:58 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: New Weather Photos > Hi everyone, > > I've uploaded some new photos from recent months up at: > > http://www.downunderchase.com/photogallery/new.html > > Hope you enjoy them! > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:32:59 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, The easiest way to tell if a fence is electrified or not is to get yourself some grass (live & preferably with long stems ie. straw like) & holding one end touch the other end of the grass on the fence. If you feel a week pulse though the grass the fence is electrified. The longer stem grass you use the weaker the pulse will be. If you don't feel a pulse from the fence shorten the length of grass a bit & try again. Repeat this process until you feel a pulse or your certain the fence is not electrified. WARNING This process is useful only on farmers/paddock fences & NOT recommended for use on other fences such as Prison/Security fences or the such... ;) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) > Hi Dale, > > When I was young my mum electrocuted herself on a frayed 240V power cord > - she had the flu (not the cold) and was very sick...within 24hrs almost > all of her symptoms were cured! > > Electric fences are a stormchasing hazzard. I remember sitting outside > of Grafton, and there was a very weak looking fence with sheep behind > it. I thought "How could such a weak looking fence keep all of these > animals in, I wonder if it's electric?" Of course...me being the > curious person I am, I went to go and touch it. I had a sharp pain go > through my wrist, and my hand withdrew from the fence! But not > convinced, I touched it again to "make sure" - sure enough it was > electric, my arm was sore for about half an hour afterwards. I also > convinced my chase partner to touch it...although he was intelligent > enough to only do it once! > > AC > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:58:24 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >If you feel a week pulse Oops... hopefully it will take a little less time then a *week* to feel the pulse! lol :) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stargazer" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:32 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) > Hi all, > > The easiest way to tell if a fence is electrified or not is to get yourself > some grass (live & preferably with long stems ie. straw like) & holding one > end touch the other end of the grass on the fence. If you feel a week pulse > though the grass the fence is electrified. The longer stem grass you use the > weaker the pulse will be. If you don't feel a pulse from the fence shorten > the length of grass a bit & try again. Repeat this process until you feel a > pulse or your certain the fence is not electrified. > > WARNING > This process is useful only on farmers/paddock fences & NOT recommended for > use on other fences such as Prison/Security fences or the such... > > ;) > > Regs. Paul. > (Stargazer) > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: aus-wx: Re: electric fences Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:30:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I thought the easiest way to tell if a fence was electrified is to let someone else go over it first... Robyn > Hi all, > > The easiest way to tell if a fence is electrified or not is to get yourself > some grass (live & preferably with long stems ie. straw like) & holding one > end touch the other end of the grass on the fence. If you feel a week pulse > though the grass the fence is electrified. The longer stem grass you use the > weaker the pulse will be. If you don't feel a pulse from the fence shorten > the length of grass a bit & try again. Repeat this process until you feel a > pulse or your certain the fence is not electrified. > > WARNING > This process is useful only on farmers/paddock fences & NOT recommended for > use on other fences such as Prison/Security fences or the such... > > ;) > > Regs. Paul. > (Stargazer) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 14:54:37 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: electric fences Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com As long as you don't piss on it or get caught straddling it, it will only bite, not mame From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Weather Photos Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:53:26 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just took the time to have a look and I'll more than agree with Phil. Magnificent!!!! > There's some excellent photos in that group; several you could put on > calendars. And it's always good for me to see the land I love. > > Phil > > http://www.downunderchase.com/photogallery/new.html > > > > Hope you enjoy them! > > > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > (07) 3390 4812 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Big call but...... Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 18:28:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Where can I find the rainfall records right back to when they started here at Rutherglen, month by month preferably. Thanks.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: High Baro Pressure Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:36:13 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Greetings from Un-Winterlike Mena:
      I was wondering:(in simple terms) what ingredients must there be to have a baro reading higher than 31.00"(1049.8hPa)?
      I've noticed (on weatherunderground) that several towns in Mongolia have been having baro readings well above the 31.00"(1049.8hPa)mark. Earlier this afternoon (Jan 6th), the Mena Airport AWS gave a baro reading of 30.58"(1035.5hPa), and I've never seen it get much higher than this. Is their(Mongolia's) baros so high because their temps are Sooooo cold/ their humidity is dry?
Thanks for your help,
Wishing you T-storms a plenty.
David Powell
 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 18:15:02 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
lololol
 
been there said that, you must have missed the post.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 1:42:54 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
 
Hi all,

The easiest way to tell if a fence is electrified or not is to get yourself
some grass (live & preferably with long stems ie. straw like) & holding one
end touch the other end of the grass on the fence. If you feel a week pulse
though the grass the fence is electrified. The longer stem grass you use the
weaker the pulse will be. If you don't feel a pulse from the fence shorten
the length of grass a bit & try again. Repeat this process until you feel a
pulse or your certain the fence is not electrified.

WARNING
This process is useful only on farmers/paddock fences & NOT recommended for
use on other fences such as Prison/Security fences or the such...

;)

Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Cornelius" <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)


> Hi Dale,
>
> When I was young my mum electrocuted herself on a frayed 240V power cord
> - she had the flu (not the cold) and was very sick...within 24hrs almost
> all of her symptoms were cured!
>
> Electric fences are a stormchasing hazzard. I remember sitting outside
> of Grafton, and there was a very weak looking fence with sheep behind
> it. I thought "How could such a weak looking fence keep all of these
> animals in, I wonder if it's electric?" Of course...me being the
> curious person I am, I went to go and touch it. I had a sharp pain go
> through my wrist, and my hand withdrew from the fence! But not
> convinced, I touched it again to "make sure" - sure enough it was
> electric, my arm was sore for about Re aus-wx Lightning for the b.ems half an hour afterwards. I also
> convinced my chase partner to touch it...although he was intelligent
> enough to only do it once!
>
> AC
>


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Hey Richard,
 
I got to your post a little later on further down the list. As you may know I've been interstate the last couple of weeks & had a sh*tload of emails & posts to get through on my return as you can imagine.
Had a bit of a laugh when I got to yours & wondered if/when you'd say something...  lol
;)
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

lololol
 
been there said that, you must have missed the post.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 1:42:54 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
 
Hi all,

The easiest way to tell if a fence is electrified or not is to get yourself
some grass (live & preferably with long stems ie. straw like) & holding one
end touch the other end of the grass on the fence. If you feel a week pulse
though the grass the fence is electrified. The longer stem grass you use the
weaker the pulse will be. If you don't feel a pulse from the fence shorten
the length of grass a bit & try again. Repeat this process until you feel a
pulse or your certain the fence is not electrified.

WARNING
This process is useful only on farmers/paddock fences & NOT recommended for
use on other fences such as Prison/Security fences or the such...

;)

Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Cornelius" <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)


> Hi Dale,
>
> When I was young my mum electrocuted herself on a frayed 240V power cord
> - she had the flu (not the cold) and was very sick...within 24hrs almost
> all of her symptoms were cured!
>
> Electric fences are a stormchasing hazzard. I remember sitting outside
> of Grafton, and there was a very weak looking fence with sheep behind
> it. I thought "How could such a weak looking fence keep all of these
> animals in, I wonder if it's electric?" Of course...me being the
> curious person I am, I went to go and touch it. I had a sharp pain go
> through my wrist, and my hand withdrew from the fence! But not
> convinced, I touched it again to "make sure" - sure enough it was
> electric, my arm was sore for about half an hour afterwards. I also
> convinced my chase partner to touch it...although he was intelligent
> enough to only do it once!
>
> AC
>


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 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 21:42:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Max and I went chasing today and came back to Sydney via the putty rd. Anyway up near colo heights we noticed a fairly decent amount of bushfire smoke so we were wondering if it was caused by a lightning strike or what not. We decided to head into the service station up near colo (for petrol) and there was some kid (19, Peter I think his name was) and he had blisters and cuts all up and down his leg. Anyway we decided to hang around a bit and watch the impending RFB (I was videoing) and this Peter guy walks up to us asks if we were looking for the fire. We said that we were storm chasers and were watching the storms heading towards us. Max started talking to him about storms and peter mentioned that he was on a bushwalk and apparently the CG that started the fire had almost hit him, he must of shat himself and ran 3 or 4km to this service station (hence the cuts etc on his leg). He said it was his first close encounter to lightning and I think he probably was still in shock!!! Max got his email so were passing him info about ASWA/WZ etc as he said he had an interest in storms!!

 

Been an intersting day :)

 From: "Peter Konnecke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 22:02:09 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Very interesting day indeed .... of course you could also have met the arsonist who started the fire ... possibly ? It's interesting that he mentioned the lightning strike (after you mentioned you were storm chasers rather than before (I reckon the story of the lighning strike would want to be told first up) ....
 
Just getting suspicious in my old age.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:42 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)

Max and I went chasing today and came back to Sydney via the putty rd. Anyway up near colo heights we noticed a fairly decent amount of bushfire smoke so we were wondering if it was caused by a lightning strike or what not. We decided to head into the service station up near colo (for petrol) and there was some kid (19, Peter I think his name was) and he had blisters and cuts all up and down his leg. Anyway we decided to hang around a bit and watch the impending RFB (I was videoing) and this Peter guy walks up to us asks if we were looking for the fire. We said that we were storm chasers and were watching the storms heading towards us. Max started talking to him about storms and peter mentioned that he was on a bushwalk and apparently the CG that started the fire had almost hit him, he must of shat himself and ran 3 or 4km to this service station (hence the cuts etc on his leg). He said it was his first close encounter to lightning and I think he probably was still in shock!!! Max got his email so were passing him info about ASWA/WZ etc as he said he had an interest in storms!!

 

Been an intersting day :)

 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 21:48:06 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
regardless, pass the email onto police and tell them exactly what happened, they'll get him to take them back to the scene with experts and check his story and decide for themselves, it's too shonky to let pass.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 9:40:13 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)
 
Very interesting day indeed .... of course you could also have met the arsonist who started the fire ... possibly ? It's interesting that he mentioned the lightning strike (after you mentioned you were storm chasers rather than before (I reckon the story of the lighning strike would want to be told first up) ....
 
Just getting suspicious in my old age.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:42 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)

Max and I went chasing today and came back to Sydney via the putty rd. Anyway up near colo heights we noticed a fairly decent amount of bushfire smoke so we were wondering if it was caused by a lightning strike or what not. We decided to head into the service station up near colo (for petrol) and there was some kid (19, Peter I think his name was) and he had blisters and cuts all up and down his leg. Anyway we decided to hang around a bit and watch the impending RFB (I was videoing) and this Peter guy walks up to us asks if we were looking for the fire. We said that we were storm chasers and were watching the storms heading towards us. Max started talking to him about storms and peter mentioned that he was on a bushwalk and apparently the CG that started the fire had almost hit him, he must of shat himself and ran 3 or 4km to this service station (hence the cuts etc on his leg). He said it was his first close encounter to lightning and I think he probably was still in shock!!! Max got his email so were passing him info about ASWA/WZ etc as he said he had an interest in storms!!

 

Been an intersting day :)

 
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regardless, pass the email onto police and tell them exactly what happened, they'll get him to take them back to the scene with experts and check his story and decide for themselves, it's too shonky to let pass.
richard

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Personally, if the guy is willing enough to divulge his email address and tell his story, it could be legit, but then again anything is possible. An interesting story nonetheless flip.
Thanks for sharing it.


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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 22:32:25 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
his story could definatly be legit but in light of the seriousness of the situation you'd have to be a total sucker to take his story at face value.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:21:32 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!)
 
on 07/01/2003 21:18, Richard Modistach at hambone at dodo.com.au wrote:

regardless, pass the email onto police and tell them exactly what happened, they'll get him to take them back to the scene with experts and check his story and decide for themselves, it's too shonky to let pass.
richard

><



Personally, if the guy is willing enough to divulge his email address and tell his story, it could be legit, but then again anything is possible. An interesting story nonetheless flip.
Thanks for sharing it.


Regards
Dale

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Mate, if you saw the poor bloke you wouldn't be suspicious!  And there was definitly lightning in the area.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)

Very interesting day indeed .... of course you could also have met the arsonist who started the fire ... possibly ? It's interesting that he mentioned the lightning strike (after you mentioned you were storm chasers rather than before (I reckon the story of the lighning strike would want to be told first up) ....
 
Just getting suspicious in my old age.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:42 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)

Max and I went chasing today and came back to Sydney via the putty rd. Anyway up near colo heights we noticed a fairly decent amount of bushfire smoke so we were wondering if it was caused by a lightning strike or what not. We decided to head into the service station up near colo (for petrol) and there was some kid (19, Peter I think his name was) and he had blisters and cuts all up and down his leg. Anyway we decided to hang around a bit and watch the impending RFB (I was videoing) and this Peter guy walks up to us asks if we were looking for the fire. We said that we were storm chasers and were watching the storms heading towards us. Max started talking to him about storms and peter mentioned that he was on a bushwalk and apparently the CG that started the fire had almost hit him, he must of shat himself and ran 3 or 4km to this service station (hence the cuts etc on his leg). He said it was his first close encounter to lightning and I think he probably was still in shock!!! Max got his email so were passing him info about ASWA/WZ etc as he said he had an interest in storms!!

 

Been an intersting day :)

 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 23:16:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Its not shonky at all! We saw cgs' in that area,  just because we've had some bad bushfires lately, doesn't mean everyone who goes into the forrest is an arsonist!
 
If I knew I was going to get this amount of negativity perhaps I shouldn't have posted it.
 
The fire would not of been very big and it was a very green area (and wet because of passing storms) so it would of been contained.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)

regardless, pass the email onto police and tell them exactly what happened, they'll get him to take them back to the scene with experts and check his story and decide for themselves, it's too shonky to let pass.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 9:40:13 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)
 
Very interesting day indeed .... of course you could also have met the arsonist who started the fire ... possibly ? It's interesting that he mentioned the lightning strike (after you mentioned you were storm chasers rather than before (I reckon the story of the lighning strike would want to be told first up) ....
 
Just getting suspicious in my old age.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:42 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)

Max and I went chasing today and came back to Sydney via the putty rd. Anyway up near colo heights we noticed a fairly decent amount of bushfire smoke so we were wondering if it was caused by a lightning strike or what not. We decided to head into the service station up near colo (for petrol) and there was some kid (19, Peter I think his name was) and he had blisters and cuts all up and down his leg. Anyway we decided to hang around a bit and watch the impending RFB (I was videoing) and this Peter guy walks up to us asks if we were looking for the fire. We said that we were storm chasers and were watching the storms heading towards us. Max started talking to him about storms and peter mentioned that he was on a bushwalk and apparently the CG that started the fire had almost hit him, he must of shat himself and ran 3 or 4km to this service station (hence the cuts etc on his leg). He said it was his first close encounter to lightning and I think he probably was still in shock!!! Max got his email so were passing him info about ASWA/WZ etc as he said he had an interest in storms!!

Been an intersting day :)

 
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It wasn't that serious as it was a pretty small fire, and i'm pretty sure it be out by now. Well with cg's dropping around you in a forrest area it wasn't surprising a fire started. As for the guy, he was a uni student on holidays of an Australian decent who looked to be quite in shock,  it does seem pretty reasonable to me.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!)

his story could definatly be legit but in light of the seriousness of the situation you'd have to be a total sucker to take his story at face value.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:21:32 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!)
 
on 07/01/2003 21:18, Richard Modistach at hambone at dodo.com.au wrote:

regardless, pass the email onto police and tell them exactly what happened, they'll get him to take them back to the scene with experts and check his story and decide for themselves, it's too shonky to let pass.
richard

><



Personally, if the guy is willing enough to divulge his email address and tell his story, it could be legit, but then again anything is possible. An interesting story nonetheless flip.
Thanks for sharing it.


Regards
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As to today, the storms around the area were high based crap - failed to break the cap in a hurry. The drier air overlying the moist air mixed in as the lower layers of the rain and hail shafts were evaporating. Due to the colder air aloft though, there were some larger drops which made it interesting - hail shafts not getting all the way to the ground. During the evening, I was able to get some photographs from the video camera of distant mamatus: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0107jd01.jpg http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0107jd02.jpg http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0107jd03.jpg Jimmy Deguara At 11:11 PM 7/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Mate, if you saw the poor bloke you wouldn't be suspicious! And there was >definitly lightning in the area. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Peter Konnecke >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:02 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by >lightning!!) > >Very interesting day indeed .... of course you could also have met the >arsonist who started the fire ... possibly ? It's interesting that he >mentioned the lightning strike (after you mentioned you were storm chasers >rather than before (I reckon the story of the lighning strike would want >to be told first up) .... > >Just getting suspicious in my old age. >Pete >----- Original Message ----- >From: Phillip Basil-Jones >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:42 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!) > >Max and I went chasing today and came back to Sydney via the putty rd. >Anyway up near colo heights we noticed a fairly decent amount of bushfire >smoke so we were wondering if it was caused by a lightning strike or what >not. We decided to head into the service station up near colo (for petrol) >and there was some kid (19, Peter I think his name was) and he had >blisters and cuts all up and down his leg. Anyway we decided to hang >around a bit and watch the impending RFB (I was videoing) and this Peter >guy walks up to us asks if we were looking for the fire. We said that we >were storm chasers and were watching the storms heading towards us. Max >started talking to him about storms and peter mentioned that he was on a >bushwalk and apparently the CG that started the fire had almost hit him, >he must of shat himself and ran 3 or 4km to this service station (hence >the cuts etc on his leg). He said it was his first close encounter to >lightning and I think he probably was still in shock!!! Max got his email >so were passing him info about ASWA/WZ etc as he said he had an interest >in storms!! > > > >Been an intersting day :) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Weather Photos Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:17:58 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Absolutely awesome photos Anthony. You have had a busy and successful past few months. Some great Cb's!!! Congrads! Deano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: aus-wx: New Weather Photos > Hi everyone, > > I've uploaded some new photos from recent months up at: > > http://www.downunderchase.com/photogallery/new.html > > Hope you enjoy them! > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:08:06 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
as a firefighter who was fierfighting well before ash wednesday '83 and now currently a member of region 5 headquarters operations every fire started accidently or deliberatley no matter what conditions or how small is to be taken extremely seriously, any less would be complacent and can cause unnecessary loss of property and life.
 
how do you know this guy doesn't have the nouse to go and light a fire when a storm's on so he can blame it on a CG. where does the stereotype come from that an arsonist is a scraggy unemployed braindead loser.
a uni student on holidays? yeah, and i'm the mayor of naracoorte.
i'm certainly not saying you're definatly wrong or he's definatly lying but being that trusting toward people in this day and age is extremely dangerous.
you're obviously prepared to take that risk.
 
richard
 
 

 
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Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 11:33:34 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!)
 
It wasn't that serious as it was a pretty small fire, and i'm pretty sure it be out by now. Well with cg's dropping around you in a forrest area it wasn't surprising a fire started. As for the guy, he was a uni student on holidays of an Australian decent who looked to be quite in shock,  it does seem pretty reasonable to me.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!)

his story could definatly be legit but in light of the seriousness of the situation you'd have to be a total sucker to take his story at face value.
 
richard
 
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Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:21:32 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!)
 
on 07/01/2003 21:18, Richard Modistach at hambone at dodo.com.au wrote:

regardless, pass the email onto police and tell them exactly what happened, they'll get him to take them back to the scene with experts and check his story and decide for themselves, it's too shonky to let pass.
richard

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Personally, if the guy is willing enough to divulge his email address and tell his story, it could be legit, but then again anything is possible. An interesting story nonetheless flip.
Thanks for sharing it.


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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP60.gif: 00000001,59aa099e,00000000,00000000 From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big call but...... Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:46:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey Bussy,
If you contact the Bureau of Meteorology Victorian Regional Office or Climate & Consultancy Section, they will be able to tell you over the phone (not the whole lot though). You can get the information for the Rutherglen AWS since it started mailed out to you or emailed to you at a price though! I think you can ring Climate Data on 03 9669 4082. Hope this helps.
 
Deano
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:28 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Big call but......

Where can I find the rainfall records right back to when they started here at Rutherglen, month by month preferably. Thanks.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Site Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 01:11:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
While I was on one of my trips to the Vic BoM today, I talked to one of the forecasters who was telling me about his chasing experiences in Oklahoma. He showed me a site http://www.atmospheric-violence.com run by a person he met or heard about whilst there. It has some very interesting reports and photos. Apparently, this guy is reknown for having close calls and capturing the closest tornado footage while the camera was still in his hand...he was under a bridge while the tornado passed by 100m away. Anyway, just thought some of you may be interested.
 
Deano
 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story | A Few Photos Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:15:06 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Jimmy, though the fire from where we were must have been the smaller fire as there was no pyrocumulus. Here are some images of that day (will bring the video to next aswa) http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/7th/7th01.jpg http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/7th/7th02.jpg http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/7th/7th03.jpg http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/7th/7th04.jpg The 4th image was the RFB near the fire. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:53 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!) > Hi guys, > > Although from a different angle (to the south), I can suggest that it is > most likely that lightning matched up with where the fires were. There were > two fires - one was going for a longer period and even producing a nice > pyrocumulus plume and another was a "thin plume" that was noticed later. I > doubt if arsonists would be wasting their time at the moment - lighter > winds from the NE and even cooler from the outflow and high humidity. And > there was some rain in the area from the storms as well. > > As to today, the storms around the area were high based crap - failed to > break the cap in a hurry. The drier air overlying the moist air mixed in as > the lower layers of the rain and hail shafts were evaporating. Due to the > colder air aloft though, there were some larger drops which made it > interesting - hail shafts not getting all the way to the ground. > > During the evening, I was able to get some photographs from the video > camera of distant mamatus: > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0107jd01.jpg > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0107jd02.jpg > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0107jd03.jpg > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 11:11 PM 7/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > >Mate, if you saw the poor bloke you wouldn't be suspicious! And there was > >definitly lightning in the area. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Peter Konnecke > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:02 PM > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by > >lightning!!) > > > >Very interesting day indeed .... of course you could also have met the > >arsonist who started the fire ... possibly ? It's interesting that he > >mentioned the lightning strike (after you mentioned you were storm chasers > >rather than before (I reckon the story of the lighning strike would want > >to be told first up) .... > > > >Just getting suspicious in my old age. > >Pete > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Phillip Basil-Jones > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:42 PM > >Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!) > > > >Max and I went chasing today and came back to Sydney via the putty rd. > >Anyway up near colo heights we noticed a fairly decent amount of bushfire > >smoke so we were wondering if it was caused by a lightning strike or what > >not. We decided to head into the service station up near colo (for petrol) > >and there was some kid (19, Peter I think his name was) and he had > >blisters and cuts all up and down his leg. Anyway we decided to hang > >around a bit and watch the impending RFB (I was videoing) and this Peter > >guy walks up to us asks if we were looking for the fire. We said that we > >were storm chasers and were watching the storms heading towards us. Max > >started talking to him about storms and peter mentioned that he was on a > >bushwalk and apparently the CG that started the fire had almost hit him, > >he must of shat himself and ran 3 or 4km to this service station (hence > >the cuts etc on his leg). He said it was his first close encounter to > >lightning and I think he probably was still in shock!!! Max got his email > >so were passing him info about ASWA/WZ etc as he said he had an interest > >in storms!! > > > > > > > >Been an intersting day :) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Max" To: Subject: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:44:01 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello List,
 
I'm prompted to write this due to what I've read on this list in the last 18 hours or so.
MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If we all lived life the way its being suggested by a number of people on this list, wouldn't it be a great old world! Everyone would be Suspicious of everyone else, everyone accusing people of doing thigs which were my likely caused by natural events!!!!! Yes, there was a fire North of Colo yesterday! Yes, there were NUMEROUS very low precip cells in the area! There is absolutely No doubt in my mind that this fire was STARTED BY LIGHTNING! God knows, Phils and I were almost hit ourselves on the New England Highway just East of Whiitingham! The bolt missed us by just a few feet! (remeber that one Phil?) C'mon people, get over it!
 
Max
 From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Big call but...... Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 01:29:39 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Bussy, I've put the monthly totals I have for Rutherglen at http://www.australianweathernews.com/temp/Rutherglen%20rainfall.xls. They only go back to 1993. There have been four rainfall stations in the Rutherglen area:
 
082040 Rutherglen Netherby Wine from 1884 to 1947
082038 Rutherglen PO from 1898 to 1996
082039 Rutherglen Research Station from 1913 to date (this is now the AWS)
082085 Rutherglen Viticulture College from 1900 to 1937
 
This info might help when you're contacting the Bureau.
 
Cheers
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Dean Sgarbossa
Sent: Tuesday, 07 January, 2003 13:47
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big call but......

Hey Bussy,
If you contact the Bureau of Meteorology Victorian Regional Office or Climate & Consultancy Section, they will be able to tell you over the phone (not the whole lot though). You can get the information for the Rutherglen AWS since it started mailed out to you or emailed to you at a price though! I think you can ring Climate Data on 03 9669 4082. Hope this helps.
 
Deano
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:28 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Big call but......

Where can I find the rainfall records right back to when they started here at Rutherglen, month by month preferably. Thanks.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:53:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Well said Max,  yeh I remember that one, I think it hit a powerbox or something right next to the road. There was an awesome flash and boom of thunder. Cg's were rather plentiful yesterday.
----- Original Message -----
From: Max
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:44 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello List,
 
I'm prompted to write this due to what I've read on this list in the last 18 hours or so.
MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If we all lived life the way its being suggested by a number of people on this list, wouldn't it be a great old world! Everyone would be Suspicious of everyone else, everyone accusing people of doing thigs which were my likely caused by natural events!!!!! Yes, there was a fire North of Colo yesterday! Yes, there were NUMEROUS very low precip cells in the area! There is absolutely No doubt in my mind that this fire was STARTED BY LIGHTNING! God knows, Phils and I were almost hit ourselves on the New England Highway just East of Whiitingham! The bolt missed us by just a few feet! (remeber that one Phil?) C'mon people, get over it!
 
Max
 X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 12:53:56 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Max, Agreed. As I said there were 2 fires both started in my opinion by lightning. What bothers me with some of the posts are that with lightning tracker which anyone can get access to, you can definitely trace the origins of the fires and as Max and I and other think, it is most likely lightning. Jimmy Deguara At 11:44 AM 8/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Hello List, > >I'm prompted to write this due to what I've read on this list in the last >18 hours or so. >MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If we all lived life the way its being >suggested by a number of people on this list, wouldn't it be a great old >world! Everyone would be Suspicious of everyone else, everyone accusing >people of doing thigs which were my likely caused by natural events!!!!! >Yes, there was a fire North of Colo yesterday! Yes, there were NUMEROUS >very low precip cells in the area! There is absolutely No doubt in my mind >that this fire was STARTED BY LIGHTNING! God knows, Phils and I were >almost hit ourselves on the New England Highway just East of Whiitingham! >The bolt missed us by just a few feet! (remeber that one Phil?) C'mon >people, get over it! > >Max +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Max" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:43:40 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Jim, I dont suppose you noticed how very low precip a couple of cells over that part of the Wollemi were? Phil and i were quite surprised. We were sitting at the servo at Colo Heights while We watched a cell pass in front of us, and once we proceeded forward, the road was almost dry! Just the odd damp patch, but definately a very low precip event, and very electrically active. Max ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:53 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! > Hi Max, > > Agreed. As I said there were 2 fires both started in my opinion by > lightning. What bothers me with some of the posts are that with lightning > tracker which anyone can get access to, you can definitely trace the > origins of the fires and as Max and I and other think, it is most likely > lightning. > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 11:44 AM 8/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > >Hello List, > > > >I'm prompted to write this due to what I've read on this list in the last > >18 hours or so. > >MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If we all lived life the way its being > >suggested by a number of people on this list, wouldn't it be a great old > >world! Everyone would be Suspicious of everyone else, everyone accusing > >people of doing thigs which were my likely caused by natural events!!!!! > >Yes, there was a fire North of Colo yesterday! Yes, there were NUMEROUS > >very low precip cells in the area! There is absolutely No doubt in my mind > >that this fire was STARTED BY LIGHTNING! God knows, Phils and I were > >almost hit ourselves on the New England Highway just East of Whiitingham! > >The bolt missed us by just a few feet! (remeber that one Phil?) C'mon > >people, get over it! > > > >Max > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fires Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:52:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:07:38 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I am not surprised Bussy
I am now tracking all the storms in the nsw  at present
Stephen
 
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Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 5:53 PM
To: aussie-weather
Subject: aus-wx: Fires

Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:18:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Fires Currently going to the W and SW of Canberra, In the Brindabella Mts and Namadgi NP... pic from about hour ago.
 
www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/

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----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:52 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Fires

Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:31:16 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

I understand a fair few of those lightning started fires are around the Hotham, Falls, and Buffalo area. The Dept. NRE is advising people to stay away from the Ovens Valley at the moment.

 

“The Department of Sustainability and Environment and Parks Victoria advises that people should avoid travelling to the Ovens Valley and surrounding area until the fire situation improves.”


From a friend

 

“Fires are in the south end of Keiwa Valley, from Mt Beauty they're cranking up well, one off toward Mystic, another toward Falls, with the wind getting up about 3pm, the fires have joined up toward Bogong Village. Also 2 or 3 fires up the valley toward Albury. NRE have a couple of Dromedas operating from Mt Beauty, but no helicopters”

 

The whole area is tinder dry, especially sections of the alpine national park which have not seen fire for a good many years (The last major one at Hotham was 1939 – I think)

 

While I understand the fires are a fair way from Hotham at the moment, I’d be keen to here further info- especially if it gets closer. I’ll be back at Hotham in a week or so.

 

Cheers

 

James

 

James Holbeach

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen galowski
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 7:08 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires

 

I am not surprised Bussy

I am now tracking all the storms in the nsw  at present

Stephen

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 5:53 PM
To: aussie-weather
Subject: aus-wx: Fires

Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(

 

Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

 From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: aus-wx: Temp Probe Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:55:35 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey all, I apologize for bringing this topic up as it has been done before but I would like to hear the comments of a few ppl from the list. I am looking to attach a temperature probe on my car along with a compass. I remember somebody had a really good system worked out on their car where all the readings were displayed inside the car. Can anybody help me and explain what they have, the brand of the probe/compass and where I can get them from??? Jane, Jimmy...? Thanks heaps.
 
Deano
 From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Temp probe Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:23:51 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Dean & all,
 
Car set out thoughts....
 
Thermometer
 
or if  link doesn't work go to www.dse.com.au and search for product Y5007 I have mine glued under the bumperbar, but it tends to take a while to settle down on hot days because it gets more air from the engine that in front - next one I'll try to mount closer to an air vent.
 
Compass
Bought from Australian Geographic shop but I can't find it in the online catalogue, but a search of the store might turn one up - they were $99 a couple of years ago, digital display, could be attached by 2 suction pads & could be calibrated by doing a u-turn.
 
Hope that's vaguely useful information to help.
 
Cheers,
 
Jane

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 X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:31:37 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Max, Yes. As I said the mixing of that dreaded dry air did its job. I wonder if storm chasers can apply for drought relief since the dry air stuffed up our storms bar a few:) Jimmy Deguar At 01:43 PM 8/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >G'day Jim, > >I dont suppose you noticed how very low precip a couple of cells over that >part of the Wollemi were? >Phil and i were quite surprised. >We were sitting at the servo at Colo Heights while We watched a cell pass in >front of us, and once we proceeded forward, the road was almost dry! >Just the odd damp patch, but definately a very low precip event, and very >electrically active. > >Max > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jimmy Deguara" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:53 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Hi Max, > > > > Agreed. As I said there were 2 fires both started in my opinion by > > lightning. What bothers me with some of the posts are that with lightning > > tracker which anyone can get access to, you can definitely trace the > > origins of the fires and as Max and I and other think, it is most likely > > lightning. > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > At 11:44 AM 8/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > >Hello List, > > > > > >I'm prompted to write this due to what I've read on this list in the last > > >18 hours or so. > > >MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If we all lived life the way its being > > >suggested by a number of people on this list, wouldn't it be a great old > > >world! Everyone would be Suspicious of everyone else, everyone accusing > > >people of doing thigs which were my likely caused by natural events!!!!! > > >Yes, there was a fire North of Colo yesterday! Yes, there were NUMEROUS > > >very low precip cells in the area! There is absolutely No doubt in my >mind > > >that this fire was STARTED BY LIGHTNING! God knows, Phils and I were > > >almost hit ourselves on the New England Highway just East of Whiitingham! > > >The bolt missed us by just a few feet! (remeber that one Phil?) C'mon > > >people, get over it! > > > > > >Max > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:39:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thanks Simon,
 
I have put up a couple of images of the same fires seen from a bit further away - it was quite impressive...although I'd rather see some storms with rain/hail!!
 
 
 
 
Patrick
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires

Fires Currently going to the W and SW of Canberra, In the Brindabella Mts and Namadgi NP... pic from about hour ago.
 

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----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:52 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Fires

Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:56:55 +1100 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp probe Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dean Buy a Barina or a Peugot... very accurate outside temps installed. Don W > Jane ONeill wrote: > > Dean & all, > > Car set out thoughts.... > > Thermometer > http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/3e1bf85808e492d02740c0a87f9c072f/Product/View/Y5007 > > or if link doesn't work go to www.dse.com.au and search for product > Y5007 I have mine glued under the bumperbar, but it tends to take a > while to settle down on hot days because it gets more air from the > engine that in front - next one I'll try to mount closer to an air > vent. > > Compass > Bought from Australian Geographic shop but I can't find it in the > online catalogue, but a search of the store might turn one up - they > were $99 a couple of years ago, digital display, could be attached by > 2 suction pads & could be calibrated by doing a u-turn. > > Hope that's vaguely useful information to help. > > Cheers, > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 23:14:58 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:31 PM 8/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Hi Max, > >Yes. As I said the mixing of that dreaded dry air did its job. I wonder if >storm chasers can apply for drought relief since the dry air stuffed up >our storms bar a few:) YOU want drought relief? We're getting severe SDS down here, think we need the full package. :-/ Had the digital cam nearly a month, and still yet to have something decent to photograph - managed a distant shot of a couple of weak cells in the distance a while back... 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: dencot1 at aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 07:36:45 EST Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! me too To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows AU sub 10501 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tony

Me too
Got a digi from the mother in law and as my son said we dont have to ask how to take weather pics , we need some weather to start with .


Regards
Dennis Cottle

ps .  I dont know how to use a digital cam . for thunder storms anyway . Any hints ?

 X-Sender: meso at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 23:41:27 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Mal Ninnes Subject: aus-wx: Next NSW ASWA Meeting - this Saturday Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello aussie-weather people, The next NSW ASWA meeting will be held on Saturday, 11th of January. Venue: The Weather Company, 7 West St, North Sydney. Time: 7pm Parking: Free in the streets around the TWC building. Press the 'Weather21' buzzer to be let in. This month, Matthew Pearce will be giving a presentation on the infamous 'Southerly Buster'. Come along, learn about it, the dynamics of it, and ask questions. Also, if you have video of your own or photos of anything to do with the weather that you'd like to share with everyone else, please bring it along. We usually order pizza as well, so bring about $6 for that. For more information, visit http://www.severeweather.asn.au/states/nsw/index.htm or email meso at iinet.net.au Friends and relatives are welcome - come along and discuss the weather! See you there, Malcolm Ninnes and Matthew Pearce NSW ASWA State Reps +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp probe Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:09:37 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Don wrote: > Dean > Buy a Barina or a Peugot... very accurate outside temps installed. > Don W Mmm... The consumate weather freak buys specific vehicle based on accuracy of external thermometer... I have a Subaru Outback and have been very impressed with the accuracy of its outside thermometer. Callibration has been done most scientifically -- I simply note the temperature reading whenever I drive past Mt Boyce AWS, then check the obs for the time when I get home! It's always accurate to within 1 degree. What has impressed me most is how little the reading is affected by being parked in the sun or by stationary idling, so I went hunting for the sensor. It is mounted about 30mm behind the front grille, away from the radiator but not too close to the side of the grille. If you're buying a Dick Smith special, that would be a good place to mount the sensor. Jane's Dick Smith recommendation has me thinking I might install one on my motorbike. Now, I wonder where the optimum location is for bikes? Any thoughts? Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:15:01 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
We've also had a fire start near Govetts Leap Lookout at Blackheath this afternoon that hasn't been picked up by the media. The sky has been full of copters and light planes from mid afternoon to dark. The NPWS person stationed at the roadblock before the lookout reckoned that half of Blackheath had come to check what was happening. In the strong northwesterly winds during the afternoon, the fire posed a threat to houses in southern Blackheath, but with all the aerial artillery and a moist SE change rolling in around 7.30, the fire didn't stand a chance.
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of James Holbeach
Sent: Wednesday, 08 January, 2003 08:31
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires

I understand a fair few of those lightning started fires are around the Hotham, Falls, and Buffalo area. The Dept. NRE is advising people to stay away from the Ovens Valley at the moment.

 

“The Department of Sustainability and Environment and Parks Victoria advises that people should avoid travelling to the Ovens Valley and surrounding area until the fire situation improves.”


From a friend

 

“Fires are in the south end of Keiwa Valley, from Mt Beauty they're cranking up well, one off toward Mystic, another toward Falls, with the wind getting up about 3pm, the fires have joined up toward Bogong Village. Also 2 or 3 fires up the valley toward Albury. NRE have a couple of Dromedas operating from Mt Beauty, but no helicopters”

 

The whole area is tinder dry, especially sections of the alpine national park which have not seen fire for a good many years (The last major one at Hotham was 1939 – I think)

 

While I understand the fires are a fair way from Hotham at the moment, I’d be keen to here further info- especially if it gets closer. I’ll be back at Hotham in a week or so.

 

Cheers

 

James

 

James Holbeach

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Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen galowski
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 7:08 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires

 

I am not surprised Bussy

I am now tracking all the storms in the nsw  at present

Stephen

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 5:53 PM
To: aussie-weather
Subject: aus-wx: Fires

Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(

 

Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 08:38:35 +1100 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp probe Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On a Bike?? Probably between your legs, Laurie Don Laurier Williams wrote: > > Don wrote: > > > Dean > > Buy a Barina or a Peugot... very accurate outside temps installed. > > Don W > > Mmm... The consumate weather freak buys specific vehicle based on accuracy > of external thermometer... > > I have a Subaru Outback and have been very impressed with the accuracy of > its outside thermometer. Callibration has been done most scientifically -- I > simply note the temperature reading whenever I drive past Mt Boyce AWS, then > check the obs for the time when I get home! It's always accurate to within 1 > degree. > > What has impressed me most is how little the reading is affected by being > parked in the sun or by stationary idling, so I went hunting for the sensor. > It is mounted about 30mm behind the front grille, away from the radiator but > not too close to the side of the grille. If you're buying a Dick Smith > special, that would be a good place to mount the sensor. > > Jane's Dick Smith recommendation has me thinking I might install one on my > motorbike. Now, I wonder where the optimum location is for bikes? Any > thoughts? > > Laurier > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:39:49 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase and night of lightning !!! - much, much more to be added when time allows ! http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... cheers, Michael =================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ =================================================================== From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: FYI Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 17:59:14 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Fellow Wx Freaks:
       Well, yesterday (Jan 7th) Yuma, Arizona recorded 0.02IN(0.5mm) rain, which isn't much---but they got only 0.03IN(0.7mm) in ALL of 2002!!! Yuma is generally regarded as the driest city in the US, with an annual average rainfall of 2.70IN(68.5mm). That's way too dry for me!
        C-Ya'll Later and have a Great rest of your week.
David (flurries poss this weekend!) Powell
 X-Originating-IP: [203.109.174.209] From: "John Roenfeldt" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:04:26 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 00:04:53.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC88C570:01C2B772] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great work. Those microburst pictures are incredible. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:39 AM Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase > and night of lightning !!! > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:57:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Woah!! Very nice lightning shots there!! Must of been quite a spectacle to see! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase > and night of lightning !!! > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:23:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com yep especially when it was not even talked about on the news in qld untill 11:00 pm late news on ten or untill a news flash from other channels. It did cause a lot of damage and loss of power , as I was watching ion the northpower lighting tracker yesterday for several hours Stephen galowski -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Phillip Basil-Jones Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2003 10:58 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Woah!! Very nice lightning shots there!! Must of been quite a spectacle to see! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase > and night of lightning !!! > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 11:48:03 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp probe Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Laurier, I have a Subaru Forester and also have found that the temperature is very accurate! I've never been able to locate the sensor though, I'll have to search in the place where you found yours though to find it! I must admit I've been surprised at how accurate it was - of course, when the one of the dealer's found out I was a stormchaser, he tried to promote the outside temperature thermometer! I had originally planned to get another one and place it just underneath the front bumper, this is where I put it in my old car (Telstar), however I used to get a lot of road heat sometimes when stopped. But after a few tests, I decided that even if I got an external thermometer and installed it myself that I couldn't do any better than what was already given! Subaru must have put some thought into where to put the sensor - which is surprising, it's something I wouldn't have imagined most car companies would do. If you do buy another thermometer - make sure it's backlit!!! (You can get ones that plug into the ciggie lighter and have a light sensor that turn on its blacklight as soon as it gets dark), they're around the same price as normal ones. These are fantastic! No fumbling around for switches at night when you want to see the temp! AC Laurier Williams wrote: > > Don wrote: > > > Dean > > Buy a Barina or a Peugot... very accurate outside temps installed. > > Don W > > Mmm... The consumate weather freak buys specific vehicle based on accuracy > of external thermometer... > > I have a Subaru Outback and have been very impressed with the accuracy of > its outside thermometer. Callibration has been done most scientifically -- I > simply note the temperature reading whenever I drive past Mt Boyce AWS, then > check the obs for the time when I get home! It's always accurate to within 1 > degree. > > What has impressed me most is how little the reading is affected by being > parked in the sun or by stationary idling, so I went hunting for the sensor. > It is mounted about 30mm behind the front grille, away from the radiator but > not too close to the side of the grille. If you're buying a Dick Smith > special, that would be a good place to mount the sensor. > > Jane's Dick Smith recommendation has me thinking I might install one on my > motorbike. Now, I wonder where the optimum location is for bikes? Any > thoughts? > > Laurier > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: FYI To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 12:54:16 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2B73F.A7879B20 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hello Fellow Wx Freaks: > Well, yesterday (Jan 7th) Yuma, Arizona recorded 0.02IN(0.5mm) = > rain, which isn't much---but they got only 0.03IN(0.7mm) in ALL of = > 2002!!! Yuma is generally regarded as the driest city in the US, with an = > annual average rainfall of 2.70IN(68.5mm). That's way too dry for me! > C-Ya'll Later and have a Great rest of your week. > David (flurries poss this weekend!) Powell > You must be looking at a different Yuma site to me - according to the CPC web site Yuma had about 50mm for the year, but virtually all of that fell on one day in late June so I guess it's possible that the (presumed) thunderstorm that caused it missed other parts of Yuma. Also noticed it's been very warm for the time of year in the central US - up near 20 C as far north as Iowa. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big call but...... To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:00:27 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01C2B67A.9B62BD40 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Where can I find the rainfall records right back to when they started = > here at Rutherglen, month by month preferably. Thanks. > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > (Sorry to use the list for this, but I don't have an e-mail address for Bussy and my software strips it out of the headers). Bussy - drop me a line on my Bureau address (b.trewin at bom.gov.au) and we should be able to sort something out. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp probe Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:06:43 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I bought a pretty simple little indoor/outdoor temp sensor for my car. I ripped the guts out of it, and mounted it in the dashboard. The sensor I put behind the front number plate, after putting the wire through the firewall. By putting the sensor there, I've found that you get a very accurate temperature reading, with minimal influence from the engine (via radient or convective heat). It is still one of the most useful devices in my car, especially as I drive to Hotham nearly every weekend and Ice is a constant concern. Back lighting would be brilliant, instead I just put a little dashboard light above it. Cheers James p.s. Am I the only person getting each post to the list repeated twice? James Holbeach ---------------------------------------- Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering University of Melbourne, Australia ph. +61 3 8344 6652 ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Cornelius Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2003 12:48 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp probe Hi Laurier, I have a Subaru Forester and also have found that the temperature is very accurate! I've never been able to locate the sensor though, I'll have to search in the place where you found yours though to find it! I must admit I've been surprised at how accurate it was - of course, when the one of the dealer's found out I was a stormchaser, he tried to promote the outside temperature thermometer! I had originally planned to get another one and place it just underneath the front bumper, this is where I put it in my old car (Telstar), however I used to get a lot of road heat sometimes when stopped. But after a few tests, I decided that even if I got an external thermometer and installed it myself that I couldn't do any better than what was already given! Subaru must have put some thought into where to put the sensor - which is surprising, it's something I wouldn't have imagined most car companies would do. If you do buy another thermometer - make sure it's backlit!!! (You can get ones that plug into the ciggie lighter and have a light sensor that turn on its blacklight as soon as it gets dark), they're around the same price as normal ones. These are fantastic! No fumbling around for switches at night when you want to see the temp! AC Laurier Williams wrote: > > Don wrote: > > > Dean > > Buy a Barina or a Peugot... very accurate outside temps installed. > > Don W > > Mmm... The consumate weather freak buys specific vehicle based on accuracy > of external thermometer... > > I have a Subaru Outback and have been very impressed with the accuracy of > its outside thermometer. Callibration has been done most scientifically -- I > simply note the temperature reading whenever I drive past Mt Boyce AWS, then > check the obs for the time when I get home! It's always accurate to within 1 > degree. > > What has impressed me most is how little the reading is affected by being > parked in the sun or by stationary idling, so I went hunting for the sensor. > It is mounted about 30mm behind the front grille, away from the radiator but > not too close to the side of the grille. If you're buying a Dick Smith > special, that would be a good place to mount the sensor. > > Jane's Dick Smith recommendation has me thinking I might install one on my > motorbike. Now, I wonder where the optimum location is for bikes? Any > thoughts? > > Laurier > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 12:22:19 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi MB and Dave, Great photos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This was the most spectacular lightning display I've ever witnessed before in my life!!!!! I originally left at around 1:30pm to head down to NE NSW...but just as I got to the border I got a call from my boss needing me to work urgently (doh!) So I had to head back to Brisbane to work so I missed the first Casino cell in the day, but that wasn't too bad as the lightning display more than made up for it!!! I finished at around 5pm and was debating whether or not it would be worth heading back down again...I decided it would be so I headed south. I picked up a friend (Jason) on the way (his work was near mine and just off the M1) and we headed south (but got a nice sunset on the Gold Coast first!) We sat on Old Byron Bay Rd just north of Ballina for most of the time (from ~8pm-11:30pm!) Stormcell after stormcell kept developing and moving across! The first line had a great gustfront, while the second line had a dominant storm with an awesome inflow band! The CGs were phemomenal!!! So many of them were visible, and most of them were extremely furry!!! (ie lots of branches). I just couldn't get over how many CGs there were...I'm hoping all of my photos turn out OK (my only concern is that I used a fairly small apperature so they may not turn out as well). The video certainly has some awesome CGs (especially in slow-mo), but they're so bright they don't capture that well (well, some of them don't anyway!) It really was an amazing sight with so many CGs and active cells continually moving across. Eventually one developed just to our W, it gave some closer CGs (within 3-5km), but one of the closest was when my hair stood up on end for about 2 seconds, then stopped just as a CG struck about 1.5km away followed by a nice bang!!! It was quite an experience feeling that, and sent a quick shiver down my spine! AC Michael Bath wrote: > > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase > and night of lightning !!! > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > cheers, Michael > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 11:08:14 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp probe - on bikes X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Donkey's years ago, a 1956 model Yamaha I owned had a built-in "Ambient Temperature Display" and its sensor was inside the headlamp shell. It worked well providing you didn't use your headlights! Turn on the lights, and up went the temperature. I used the same 1946 model Dusting sidecar on several of my bikes, and the temperature sensor mounted inside the nose of the sidecar at the very top worked very well. When I tried using a temperature sensor on various solo motorbikes (that is, motorbikes without sidecars) they were always affected by engine heat the moment you stopped. I never found a satisfactory way to avoid this problem. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Laurier Williams" To: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:09:37 -0000 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp probe > Don wrote: > > > Dean > > Buy a Barina or a Peugot... very accurate outside temps installed. > > Don W > > > Mmm... The consumate weather freak buys specific vehicle based on > accuracy > of external thermometer... > > I have a Subaru Outback and have been very impressed with the accuracy > of > its outside thermometer. Callibration has been done most scientifically > -- I > simply note the temperature reading whenever I drive past Mt Boyce AWS, > then > check the obs for the time when I get home! It's always accurate to > within 1 > degree. > > What has impressed me most is how little the reading is affected by > being > parked in the sun or by stationary idling, so I went hunting for the > sensor. > It is mounted about 30mm behind the front grille, away from the > radiator but > not too close to the side of the grille. If you're buying a Dick Smith > special, that would be a good place to mount the sensor. > > Jane's Dick Smith recommendation has me thinking I might install one on > my > motorbike. Now, I wonder where the optimum location is for bikes? Any > thoughts? > > Laurier > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David James Powell" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: FYI X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.00 X-IPAddress: 208.189.4.71 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:36:23 -0600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello, Blair: The rain report on Yuma was mentioned on the US Weather Channel. Yes, some high temps in the northern Plains are running ~20F above normal--ahead of a powerful Canadian Cold Front. The Santa Ana winds have caused some powerline damage in S. California. Yesterday (Jan 7th) Ontario, Ca had a gust to 90mph(144.9kph) which is also causing record highs among which was 88F(31.1C) at Santa Ana(Fire Sta), Ca. Even the "Nation's Icebox", International Falls, MN had a daily record high of 46F(7.7C). This time of year, such excessive warmth is short-lived, usually just in front of a powerful cold front. > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2B73F.A7879B20 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Hello Fellow Wx Freaks: > > Well, yesterday (Jan 7th) Yuma, Arizona recorded 0.02IN(0.5mm) = > > rain, which isn't much---but they got only 0.03IN(0.7mm) in ALL of = > > 2002!!! Yuma is generally regarded as the driest city in the US, with an = > > annual average rainfall of 2.70IN(68.5mm). That's way too dry for me! > > C-Ya'll Later and have a Great rest of your week. > > David (flurries poss this weekend!) Powell > > > > You must be looking at a different Yuma site to me - according to the > CPC web site Yuma had about 50mm for the year, but virtually all of > that fell on one day in late June so I guess it's possible that the > (presumed) thunderstorm that caused it missed other parts of Yuma. > > Also noticed it's been very warm for the time of year in the central > US - up near 20 C as far north as Iowa. > > Blair > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------ ------------------------ > > > -- Sent using Voltage Net Webmail http://www.voltage.net/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: aus-wx: Updated my site Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:13:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello, I've just got around to updating my site. I've added 2 new pages
2003:-
(various only one image so far) and
7th of January 2003 pages.
 
Site index:-
 
Still have more to come soon :)
 
thanks
 From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp probe Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:31:58 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Jane & all,
 
I've found the other indoor/outdoor thermomotor (cat.Y5037) that Dick Smith sells useful in my vehicle.
This unit also has a clock, a large easy to read display & has a blue backlight that turns on for a few seconds when you press the large button (east to read at night).
 
And it's cheaper too ...   :P  lol 
(Of *course* it was the added features on this unit that made me buy it & NOT the cheaper price... oh no, no, no...  :)  
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:53 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Temp probe

Dean & all,
 
Car set out thoughts....
 
Thermometer
 
or if  link doesn't work go to www.dse.com.au and search for product Y5007 I have mine glued under the bumperbar, but it tends to take a while to settle down on hot days because it gets more air from the engine that in front - next one I'll try to mount closer to an air vent.
 
Compass
Bought from Australian Geographic shop but I can't find it in the online catalogue, but a search of the store might turn one up - they were $99 a couple of years ago, digital display, could be attached by 2 suction pads & could be calibrated by doing a u-turn.
 
Hope that's vaguely useful information to help.
 
Cheers,
 
Jane

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Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at australianskynweather.com
 
Australian Sky & Weather
http://www.stormchasers.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 
***The journey is the reward***
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 From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp probe Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:21:09 +1100 Organization: The Weather Co. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Yeah unfortunately DSE actually stopped producing the one that I use. It plugs into your cigarette lighter socket and has a light sensor so that it is permanently back-lit when it's dark.
 
Because I drive a beat-up ute I don't mind tinkering with it so I made a little white shelter (not quite a Stevenson Screen ;) for the probe that directs air through but shields it from sun/heat/rain etc. and hung it under my side mirror. Works well.
 
I love driving on frosty nights and watching it fluctuate between 2° and -3° as you go in and out of hollows.
 
Andrew.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Stargazer
Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2003 4:02 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp probe

Hi Jane & all,
 
I've found the other indoor/outdoor thermomotor (cat.Y5037) that Dick Smith sells useful in my vehicle.
This unit also has a clock, a large easy to read display & has a blue backlight that turns on for a few seconds when you press the large button (east to read at night).
 
And it's cheaper too ...   :P  lol 
(Of *course* it was the added features on this unit that made me buy it & NOT the cheaper price... oh no, no, no...  :)  
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:53 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Temp probe

Dean & all,
 
Car set out thoughts....
 
Thermometer
 
or if  link doesn't work go to www.dse.com.au and search for product Y5007 I have mine glued under the bumperbar, but it tends to take a while to settle down on hot days because it gets more air from the engine that in front - next one I'll try to mount closer to an air vent.
 
Compass
Bought from Australian Geographic shop but I can't find it in the online catalogue, but a search of the store might turn one up - they were $99 a couple of years ago, digital display, could be attached by 2 suction pads & could be calibrated by doing a u-turn.
 
Hope that's vaguely useful information to help.
 
Cheers,
 
Jane

--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at australianskynweather.com
 
Australian Sky & Weather
http://www.stormchasers.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 
***The journey is the reward***
--------------------------------
 
 

 
 From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:51:39 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the surrounding clouds so well. What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he have on the camera? I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not sure yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from... One that could give results like that would be great! :))) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase > and night of lightning !!! > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 17:02:07 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Discussions on inflow vs roll cloud/shelf cloud features Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Sorry the previous one was sent accidently I had not finished... At the moment I am trying to work out whether the pics of the NE NSW storms are indicating inflow band or shelf cloud/roll cloud features. My definition and research into inflow bands are that inflow bands are usually extended in front of the storms and channel between the inflow and the pseudo front operating from the storm itself. Note that inflow bands have flow into the storm almost parallel to the inflow band Coffs Harbour inflow band had NE inflow and the inflow band extending to the NE from the storms mesocyclone. Thsi is usually a sign of significant rotation and that the storm is ready to drop a tornado. Which it did a short time after - well let's say a tornadic funnel. Roll clouds normally have winds flowing over and usually perpendicular to the roll cloud and interacting with outflow. This si what I believe was happening in the NE NSW storms. After checking the direction of the storms - NE and the direction looking at the storm - SE, it seems we are looking almost through the back of the storm. The precipitation is on the southern side generally. What I have noticed of storms in recent years of chasers that when storms approach the ocean, their flows which are normally invisible become visible - well where they intersect. This is the feature being referred to in the NE NSW storms http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb16.jpg first signs of development http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb22.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb26.jpg this is probably a better example of the feature meeting the updraught further in These storms were apparently over the ocean when the features were observed. What I am suggesting is, were these features similar to the following types of features: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/1003jd36.jpg http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/1003jd40.jpg http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/221102_01_v.jpg note the inflow (although we cannot tell what that is from this angle) is above and the roll cloud is below. http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/221102_02_v.jpg Not a good example but still showing features of flow interacting with the moist air over the ocean: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/1124jd05.jpg A better example: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0208am01.jpg remember this looking from a different angle with respect to the storm and the guys would have been closer to the feature and looking towards the rain area. Also this is slightly ok just recalled US examples from last year: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0604jd04.jpg http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0604jd03.jpg now the following is interesting http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0527jd01.jpg there is inflow on the left hand side which extended a long way out of the storm beyond what this photo suggested but on the right is a detached roll cloud. Anyway, some thoughts on this spectacular event in NE NSW - good to see some action up there. Any other thoughts from others? Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 17:56:23 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! me too Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:36 AM 8/01/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Tony > >Me too >Got a digi from the mother in law and as my son said we dont have to ask >how to take weather pics , we need some weather to start with . Indeed... At least it was Christmas and all that stuff, so it's had some use... Just not for WX. :-( >Regards >Dennis Cottle > >ps . I dont know how to use a digital cam . for thunder storms anyway . >Any hints ? I'm just experimenting myself. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp Probe Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:18:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Dean.
 
I don't know how much you want to spend or how quick you want it but I play around with software development and microprocessors. If you can't come up with anything I could knock you up an electronics sensor to display temp and humidity with say a 30 foot cable. Off the top of my head you caould also have a real time clock built in and an eeprom to save settings. Just a thought. I am going a bit further at some stage and adding a oem GPS system to a 2 way radio and it will send data back to my house of conditions etc, location and whatever. I have someone donating the gps so it will be a spare time project.
 
On the software front I am still putting together a weather station software system. Jane has tried it for me and her thoughts made me change things a bit. MAybe I could have the car temp sensor send data back to it????
 
Regards, Peter
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Sgarbossa [mailto:deansgar at alphalink.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 8:56 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Temp Probe

Hey all, I apologize for bringing this topic up as it has been done before but I would like to hear the comments of a few ppl from the list. I am looking to attach a temperature probe on my car along with a compass. I remember somebody had a really good system worked out on their car where all the readings were displayed inside the car. Can anybody help me and explain what they have, the brand of the probe/compass and where I can get them from??? Jane, Jimmy...? Thanks heaps.
 
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X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:55:47 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:39 9/01/03 +1100, you wrote: >Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase >and night of lightning !!! >- much, much more to be added when time allows ! > >http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > >A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > >cheers, Michael amazing lightning shots JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 19:10:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This from the front page of the Melton Express Telegraph a far western suburb (actually a town) of Melbourne, a "burnoff devil"!!! Some people manage to get in the right place at the right time!!...and the guys at work now keep an eye out for things like this http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/rockbank.jpg Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.220.152.105] From: "Dave Ellem" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 19:27:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 08:27:48.0224 (UTC) FILETIME=[FDF34800:01C2B7B8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Paul, I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001. All photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning occurs in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster! If I could by a digi for under $2000 now I would probably go the Canon G3 - produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images I wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job. If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are breathtaking!!!!! Cheers, Dave Ellem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stargazer" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > Hi Michael, > > Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the > surrounding clouds so well. > > What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he > have on the camera? > I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not sure > yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from... > One that could give results like that would be great! :))) > > Regs. Paul. > (Stargazer) > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Bath" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM > Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > > > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase > > and night of lightning !!! > > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > > =================================================================== > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: meso at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:30:40 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Mal Ninnes Subject: Re: aus-wx: Updated my site Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Phil, Wow, let me be the first to congratulate you - very nice looking site with some really cool pics there :) Got that one bookmarked to have a look on the weekend when I have a bit more time up my sleeve, heheh. Mal At 03:13 PM 1/9/03 +1100, you wrote: > Hello, I've just got around to updating my site. I've added 2 new pages > 2003:- http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/wxau/2003.htm and 7th of >January 2003 pages. >http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/wxau/07012003.htm Site index:- >http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/wxau/main.htm Still have more to >come soon :) thanks +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 19:49:09 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Got a few of those but no where near as prevalent as that one :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' > This from the front page of the Melton Express Telegraph a far western > suburb (actually a town) of Melbourne, a "burnoff devil"!!! Some people > manage to get in the right place at the right time!!...and the guys at > work now keep an eye out for things like this > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/rockbank.jpg > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:59:49 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:27 PM 9/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001. All >photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the >camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful >for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter >speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process >before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning occurs >in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster! I've just got a Fiji 2 megapixel camera with 6x zoom. I have experimented with night time photography, and found the shutter opens for around 2 seconds with good results. The other good thing about the camera is that the processing time is very fast, < 2 seconds. For normal photography, it produces excellent pictures. I want to get the 128MB memory card, so I can leave the camera in the highest resolution and quality settings all the time and still be able to take 300 photos in a sitting. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Next NSW ASWA Meeting - this Saturday Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:21:00 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Mal, Please accept my apologies for Saturday night. Sorry I won't be able to attend the meeting. Hope that you all have a good night. Judy Mayo Original Message ----- From: "Mal Ninnes" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:41 PM Subject: aus-wx: Next NSW ASWA Meeting - this Saturday > Hello aussie-weather people, > > The next NSW ASWA meeting will be held on Saturday, 11th of January. > Venue: The Weather Company, 7 West St, North Sydney. > Time: 7pm > Parking: Free in the streets around the TWC building. > Press the 'Weather21' buzzer to be let in. > > This month, Matthew Pearce will be giving a presentation on the infamous > 'Southerly Buster'. > Come along, learn about it, the dynamics of it, and ask questions. Also, > if you have video of > your own or photos of anything to do with the weather that you'd like to > share with everyone > else, please bring it along. > > We usually order pizza as well, so bring about $6 for that. For more > information, visit > http://www.severeweather.asn.au/states/nsw/index.htm or email > meso at iinet.net.au > > Friends and relatives are welcome - come along and discuss the weather! > > See you there, > Malcolm Ninnes and Matthew Pearce > NSW ASWA State Reps > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: gthurtel at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:33:21 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Geoff Thurtell Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp probe Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dean, Don and all, That applies to the Holden Astra too. I have been very impressed with mine since buying the Astra in early 2002. (That is, the car and the external thermometer). The Astra thermometer is probably the same as the Barina. Geoff At 09:56 PM 8/01/03 +1100, you wrote: >Dean >Buy a Barina or a Peugot... very accurate outside temps installed. >Don W > > > Jane ONeill wrote: > > > > Dean & all, > > > > Car set out thoughts.... > > > > Thermometer > > > http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/3e1bf85808e492d02740c0a87f9c072f/Product/View/Y5007 > > > > or if link doesn't work go to www.dse.com.au and search for product > > Y5007 I have mine glued under the bumperbar, but it tends to take a > > while to settle down on hot days because it gets more air from the > > engine that in front - next one I'll try to mount closer to an air > > vent. > > > > Compass > > Bought from Australian Geographic shop but I can't find it in the > > online catalogue, but a search of the store might turn one up - they > > were $99 a couple of years ago, digital display, could be attached by > > 2 suction pads & could be calibrated by doing a u-turn. > > > > Hope that's vaguely useful information to help. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Jane > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Geoff Thurtell Schofields NSW +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.40.233.61] From: "ROBERT HALL" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 10:18:01 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 10:18:01.0669 (UTC) FILETIME=[63DEE750:01C2B7C8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

From: Rob Hall

For Lightning photography, film still rules. I lock my shutter open, (Nikon F90x) and set the timer for 5minutes, aiming at the busiest part of the sky. I f I get a good display in the time, I switch the camera off momentarally, the remote timer continuing to to run. When the camera goes back on, the remaining amount of the 5 mins continues. What success? Pure luck!.

Rob Hall

>From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
>Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:59:49 +1100
>
>At 07:27 PM 9/01/2003 +1100, you wrote:
>
>>I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March
>>2001. All
>>photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for
>>the
>>camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very
>>useful
>>for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the
>>shutter
>>speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to
>>process
>>before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most
>>lightning occurs
>>in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot
>>faster!
>
>I've just got a Fiji 2 megapixel camera with 6x zoom. I have
>experimented with night time photography, and found the shutter
>opens for around 2 seconds with good results. The other good thing
>about the camera is that the processing time is very fast, < 2
>seconds.
>
>For normal photography, it produces excellent pictures. I want to
>get the 128MB memory card, so I can leave the camera in the highest
>resolution and quality settings all the time and still be able to
>take 300 photos in a sitting. :)
>
>73 de Tony, VK3JED
>http://vkradio.com
>
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The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:18:41 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here are my lightning pics btw : http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/mb20030109.html http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/mb2003010902.html what an unbelievable night !!!!!!!!!!!!!! >If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are >breathtaking!!!!! > >Cheers, >Dave Ellem =================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ =================================================================== From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 22:56:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Very impressive Patrick. We also have a fire west of Wollongong near Cordeaux Dam. It is very vigourous with pyro capping, kind of a jolt fpor those who think the drought is over.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires

Thanks Simon,
 
I have put up a couple of images of the same fires seen from a bit further away - it was quite impressive...although I'd rather see some storms with rain/hail!!
 
 
 
 
Patrick
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires

Fires Currently going to the W and SW of Canberra, In the Brindabella Mts and Namadgi NP... pic from about hour ago.
 

Cheers
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Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:52 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Fires

Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 

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 From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: aus-wx: Digicams... Weather chaser equipment ;) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 22:29:49 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Dave,
 
I was originally looking at the Sony 3.2M Cyber-shot DSCP7 http://www.sony.com.au/product_detail_content.asp?CCod=16298&CCod2=16712&ProdCod=DSCP7 trying to keep around the $1,000 mark when I came across the Fuji FinePix S304 http://shop.centre.net.au/?prid=000PBB&it=product & http://home.fujifilm.com/products/digital/digitalcamera/fxs304/index.html which seems like more camera for less $$$.
 
Then I spotted the Fuji FinePix S602 Zoom http://shop.centre.net.au/index.html?cat=000004&it=product&prid=000LXW & http://home.fujifilm.com/products/digital/digitalcamera/fxs602z/index.html for *just a little more $$$* my budget flew straight out the window, I mean how many cameras do you buy in a life time? ;)
 
What do you think of these cameras & would you still spend the extra $$$ & get the Canon G3 over them?
 
A penny for your thoughts?
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ellem" <stormboy2003 at hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning

> G'day Paul,
>
> I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001. All
> photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the
> camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful
> for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter
> speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process
> before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning occurs
> in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster!
>
> If I could by a digi for under $2000 now I would probably go the Canon G3 -
> produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of
> research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images I
> wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job.
>
> If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are
> breathtaking!!!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ellem
 From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:06:58 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow, what can i say. It was a pretty crummy afternoon here in the Illawarra. The southerly buster caused some damage, which most folk confused with the weak storms. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase > and night of lightning !!! > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.437 / Virus Database: 245 - Release Date: 6/01/03 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 22:52:37 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hehehe... got to love them cloud movements in some of the longer time exposures :))) ie. http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb16.jpg & http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb18.jpg Absolutely stunning photos Michael, well done! I wish I could do so well... What equipment/settings were you using? Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:48 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > Here are my lightning pics btw : > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/mb20030109.html > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/mb2003010902.html > > what an unbelievable night !!!!!!!!!!!!!! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:28:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The Canon G3 is certainly on my wish list too. Technology is moving so fast that whatever you buy will feel dated a couple years later. My Canon A20 already feels like a kids toy. My brother in law who is much richer then me recently got a Nikon Coolpix 5700. This one has Bulb settings, but the bulb has a maximum of either 30 secs or 1 min, which has to be selected through the menus. The camera also has a 8X optical zoom. We can be tempted to curse digital for not having the endless B like a SLR, but digital pictures simply become very noisy at longer B settings. For those whose budget does not stretch as far as a G3, I would suggest a Nikon 4300. It has many of the features of the G3, and even the 5700. It can be had for around $1000 at present which is great for a 4mp camera. It also has a bulb which can go for 60 secs. All this of course is pointless if like me you live in a night time lightning proof location. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Ellem" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:27 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > G'day Paul, > > I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001. All > photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the > camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful > for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter > speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process > before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning occurs > in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster! > > If I could by a digi for under $2000 now I would probably go the Canon G3 - > produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of > research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images I > wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job. > > If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are > breathtaking!!!!! > > Cheers, > Dave Ellem > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stargazer" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:21 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the > > surrounding clouds so well. > > > > What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he > > have on the camera? > > I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not sure > > yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from... > > One that could give results like that would be great! :))) > > > > Regs. Paul. > > (Stargazer) > > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael Bath" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM > > Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > > > > > > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a > chase > > > and night of lightning !!! > > > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > > > > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > > > > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > > > > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > > > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > > > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > > > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > > > =================================================================== > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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hi michael,
 
i've been drooling over the 5700 for yonks, i was under the impression the max bulb was 5mins according to http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikoncp5700/page2.asp.
thats why i've singled this one out, longer bulb setting than most amoungst other great features like 8x zoom and 6mp.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 9 January 2003 10:55:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
 
The Canon G3 is certainly on my wish list too. Technology is moving so fast
that whatever you buy will feel dated a couple years later. My Canon A20
already feels like a kids toy.

My brother in law who is much richer then me recently got a Nikon Coolpix
5700. This one has Bulb settings, but the bulb has a maximum of either 30
secs or 1 min, which has to be selected through the menus. The camera also
has a 8X optical zoom.

We can be tempted to curse digital for not having the endless B like a SLR,
but digital pictures simply become very noisy at longer B settings.

For those whose budget does not stretch as far as a G3, I would suggest a
Nikon 4300. It has many of the features of the G3, and even the 5700. It can
be had for around $1000 at present which is great for a 4mp camera. It also
has a bulb which can go for 60 secs.

All this of course is pointless if like me you live in a night time
lightning proof location.

Michael



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ellem" <stormboy2003 at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning


> G'day Paul,
>
> I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001.
All
> photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the
> camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful
> for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter
> speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process
> before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning
occurs
> in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster!
>
> If I could by a digi for under $2000Re aus-wx NE NSW low precipit.ems now I would probably go the Canon
G3 -
> produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of
> research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images
I
> wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job.
>
> If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are
> breathtaking!!!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ellem
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stargazer" <stargazer at picknowl.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
>
>
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the
> > surrounding clouds so well.
> >
> > What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he
> > have on the camera?
> > I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not
sure
> > yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from...
> > One that could give results like that would be great! :)))
> >
> > Regs. Paul.
> > (Stargazer)
> > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Bath" <mbath at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM
> > Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
> >
> >
> > > Please check out the initial rRe aus-wx NE NSW low precipit.ems eport form NE NSW last night - what a
> chase
> > > and night of lightning !!!
> > > - much, much more to be added when time allows !
> > >
> > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm
> > >
> > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially....
> > >
> > > cheers, Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ===================================================================
> > > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au
> > > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/
> > > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/
> > > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
> > > ===================================================================
> > >
> >
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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP62.gif: 00000001,67b1bfaa,00000000,00000000 From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Digicams... Weather chaser equipment ;) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:48:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi
 
You can read a professional review at
 
 
Just be aware that the CCD is 3.1 mp, not 6mp, the output is interpolated to 6mp. But is certainly has the goods in regard to manual controls.
 
The 304 Fuji has the 6X optical going for it and that is about it, no manual controls seriously limit it at the price range it is competing in.
 
I notice at the site you are looking at there is an Olympus 5mp camera with manual controls for $1200, only downer is the max 8 sec shutter.
 
Michael
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:59 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Digicams... Weather chaser equipment ;)

Hi Dave,
 
I was originally looking at the Sony 3.2M Cyber-shot DSCP7 http://www.sony.com.au/product_detail_content.asp?CCod=16298&CCod2=16712&ProdCod=DSCP7 trying to keep around the $1,000 mark when I came across the Fuji FinePix S304 http://shop.centre.net.au/?prid=000PBB&it=product & http://home.fujifilm.com/products/digital/digitalcamera/fxs304/index.html which seems like more camera for less $$$.
 
Then I spotted the Fuji FinePix S602 Zoom http://shop.centre.net.au/index.html?cat=000004&it=product&prid=000LXW & http://home.fujifilm.com/products/digital/digitalcamera/fxs602z/index.html for *just a little more $$$* my budget flew straight out the window, I mean how many cameras do you buy in a life time? ;)
 
What do you think of these cameras & would you still spend the extra $$$ & get the Canon G3 over them?
 
A penny for your thoughts?
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ellem" <stormboy2003 at hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning

> G'day Paul,
>
> I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001. All
> photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the
> camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful
> for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter
> speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process
> before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning occurs
> in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster!
>
> If I could by a digi for under $2000 now I would probably go the Canon G3 -
> produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of
> research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images I
> wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job.
>
> If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are
> breathtaking!!!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ellem
 

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 From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:34:37 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, The Nikon Coolpix 5700 http://www.maxwell.com.au/photo/cameras/digital/cool5700.html look like a great camera but at $2,599 rrp... Man, I wish! :((( It has a bulb time limit of 5 mins, see http://www.maxwell.com.au/photo/cameras/Digital/cool5700_spec.html & look under *Shutter* The 4300 looks interesting though... Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Thompson" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:58 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > The Canon G3 is certainly on my wish list too. Technology is moving so fast > that whatever you buy will feel dated a couple years later. My Canon A20 > already feels like a kids toy. > > My brother in law who is much richer then me recently got a Nikon Coolpix > 5700. This one has Bulb settings, but the bulb has a maximum of either 30 > secs or 1 min, which has to be selected through the menus. The camera also > has a 8X optical zoom. > > We can be tempted to curse digital for not having the endless B like a SLR, > but digital pictures simply become very noisy at longer B settings. > > For those whose budget does not stretch as far as a G3, I would suggest a > Nikon 4300. It has many of the features of the G3, and even the 5700. It can > be had for around $1000 at present which is great for a 4mp camera. It also > has a bulb which can go for 60 secs. > > All this of course is pointless if like me you live in a night time > lightning proof location. > > Michael > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Ellem" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:27 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > > > G'day Paul, > > > > I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001. > All > > photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the > > camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful > > for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter > > speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process > > before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning > occurs > > in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster! > > > > If I could by a digi for under $2000 now I would probably go the Canon > G3 - > > produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of > > research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images > I > > wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job. > > > > If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are > > breathtaking!!!!! > > > > Cheers, > > Dave Ellem > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stargazer" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:21 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > > > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > > > Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the > > > surrounding clouds so well. > > > > > > What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he > > > have on the camera? > > > I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not > sure > > > yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from... > > > One that could give results like that would be great! :))) > > > > > > Regs. Paul. > > > (Stargazer) > > > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Michael Bath" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM > > > Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > > > > > > > > > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a > > chase > > > > and night of lightning !!! > > > > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > > > > > > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > > > > > > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > > > > > > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > > > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > > > > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > > > > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > > > > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > > > > =================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.437 / Virus Database: 245 - Release Date: 6/01/03 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:43:15 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Almost all were taken at F4 (a few later ones at F5.6), 50mm lens, 100 speed film (and my old Nikon FG20), exposure times were up to about 2 mins, but mainly about 30 seconds for the last 35 or so shots when the storm went ballistic. Certainly cloud movement is a problem when the storm is not giving off much lightning :) cheers, Michael At 10:52 PM 9/1/2003 +1030, you wrote: >Hehehe... got to love them cloud movements in some of the longer time >exposures :))) > >ie. http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb16.jpg & >http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb18.jpg > >Absolutely stunning photos Michael, well done! I wish I could do so well... >What equipment/settings were you using? > >Regs. Paul. >(Stargazer) >http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Michael Bath" >To: >Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:48 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > > > > > Here are my lightning pics btw : > > > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/mb20030109.html > > > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/mb2003010902.html > > > > what an unbelievable night !!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ =================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ =================================================================== From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:20:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
You are probably right Richard, I am only going on memory from the few minutes I had it in my hand. To be perfectly honest after seeing it in the flesh I would not buy one. I think the difference between the $1000 4300 and $2500 5700 is not justified.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning

hi michael,
 
i've been drooling over the 5700 for yonks, i was under the impression the max bulb was 5mins according to http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikoncp5700/page2.asp.
thats why i've singled this one out, longer bulb setting than most amoungst other great features like 8x zoom and 6mp.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 9 January 2003 10:55:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
 
The Canon G3 is certainly on my wish list too. Technology is moving so fast
that whatever you buy will feel dated a couple years later. My Canon A20
already feels like a kids toy.

My brother in law who is much richer then me recently got a Nikon Coolpix
5700. This one has Bulb settings, but the bulb has a maximum of either 30
secs or 1 min, which has to be selected through the menus. The camera also
has a 8X optical zoom.

We can be tempted to curse digital for not having the endless B like a SLR,
but digital pictures simply become very noisy at longer B settings.

For those whose budget does not stretch as far as a G3, I would suggest a
Nikon 4300. It has many of the features of the G3, and even the 5700. It can
be had for around $1000 at present which is great for a 4mp camera. It also
has a bulb which can go for 60 secs.

All this of course is pointless if like me you live in a night time
lightning proof location.

Michael



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ellem" <stormboy2003 at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning


> G'day Paul,
>
> I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001.
All
> photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the
> camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful
> for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter
> speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process
> before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning
occurs
> in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster!
>
> If I could by a digi for under $2000 now I would probably go the Canon
G3 -
> produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of
> research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images
I
> wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job.
>
> If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are
> breathtaking!!!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ellem
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stargazer" <stargazer at picknowl.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
>
>
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the
> > surrounding clouds so well.
> >
> > What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he
> > have on the camera?
> > I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not
sure
> > yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from...
> > One that could give results like that would be great! :)))
> >
> > Regs. Paul.
> > (Stargazer)
> > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Bath" <mbath at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM
> > Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
> >
> >
> > > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a
> chase
> > > and night of lightning !!!
> > > - much, much more to be added when time allows !
> > >
> > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm
> > >
> > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially....
> > >
> > > cheers, Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ===================================================================
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> > > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/
> > > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/
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 Embedded Content: IMSTP63.gif: 00000001,2ed3193c,00000000,00000000 From: "Andrew McDonald" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Low rainfall Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:59:36 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2003 01:59:30.0700 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9F4FCC0:01C2B84B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com After travelling for the last two weeks through western NSW and far western QLD I have only just been able to realise the severity of this drought. South western QLD in particular was as you describe "devoid of anything". Even the slightest breeze kicks up a dust storm and the local elders were saying that they have never seen anything like this at all and that is was far worse than anything they remember. Thargomindah servo attendants were saying they were blessed just before Christmas as they received 4mm... Andrew McDonald -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of R & R McKenzie Sent: Monday, 30 December 2002 11:14 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low rainfall It is too easy to look at the weather patterns and the drought and say 'it has never been so bad', but speaking to family in the Wimmera region of Victoria, I was told that this is not uncommon. Perhaps with better communication technology we are able to see every drought effected part of the country so easily and hear about it constantly. I remember as a small child seeing thousands of sheep in the long paddock almost every year. Where I grew up in the NT we had a dog which didn't see rain until she was 3. Each year through the 1960s we endured months and months of dust-storms in what should have been our wet season. That drought extended from the Territory right down through Queensland and well into NSW. The black soil plains of Queensland were not just dry, but completely devoid of anything - not a trace of vegetation to be found. Whilst we might be tempted to blame global warming and/or the hole in the ozone layer for the increasing incidence of drought, it is just not true. There were worse droughts 100 years ago and 50 years ago and a fairly bad one in the 1970s. Robyn Subject: aus-wx: Low rainfall > Afternoon all, > > Unless I get 150mm in the next 36 hours to get me to my average, I'll > have managed only about 640mm for 2002 (my 6 year ave is 812mm) - driest > month this year was November with a total of 19mm. I know that's a heck > of a lot more than many people living in harder hit areas. > > What amazed me is the length and breadth of the area effected by this > looong dry spell - in all my life, I have never seen such a wide area > affected by drought, nor can remember one where dams so far afield were > dry. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/112209.jpg The southern > tablelands of NSW see their fair share of dry spells, but over the past > few months I have travelled from western Victoria to northern New South > Wales.....and almost all of it has been horrendously dry. > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/1126tdu01.jpg I've never seen the > Long Paddock used as extensively, in fact stock are moving along major > roads, not just the back roads atm. > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/113001.jpg (this btw, does not > make for ideal stormchase conditions.....) > > My New Year's wish is for slow and steady soaking rain for all (but not > too much, or too fast that the dams end up with all of the washaway from > the paddocks) > > Best wishes to all for the New Year, and please rain for all, > > Jane > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:46:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We were driving past this fire on our way back to Ballarat when this 'ash-spout' was as it's best. It was an amazing sight - of course we didn't have a camera with us... so we just watched for a little bit. The spout gradually collapsed into a huge whirly-wind and was soon accompanied by three more. They stayed at the edge of the fire and must have been a pain for the fire crews - it was easy to see how more fires could have started up farther out when these things were sucking up ash and embers. The fire was just a grass fire over flat paddocks next to the Western Highway on a very hot and windy day. Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' > This from the front page of the Melton Express Telegraph a far western > suburb (actually a town) of Melbourne, a "burnoff devil"!!! Some people > manage to get in the right place at the right time!!...and the guys at > work now keep an eye out for things like this > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/rockbank.jpg > > Jane > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:58:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Robyn & all, I've got more images of this coming from the photographer and will put them up when received. Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky and Weather www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward.*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Sent: Friday, 10 January 2003 1:46 Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' > We were driving past this fire on our way back to Ballarat when this > 'ash-spout' was as it's best. It was an amazing sight - of course we didn't > have a camera with us... so we just watched for a little bit. The spout > gradually collapsed into a huge whirly-wind and was soon accompanied by > three more. They stayed at the edge of the fire and must have been a pain > for the fire crews - it was easy to see how more fires could have started up > farther out when these things were sucking up ash and embers. The fire was > just a grass fire over flat paddocks next to the Western Highway on a very > hot and windy day. > > Robyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane ONeill" > To: "Aussie-wx" > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:10 PM > Subject: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' > > > > This from the front page of the Melton Express Telegraph a far western > > suburb (actually a town) of Melbourne, a "burnoff devil"!!! Some people > > manage to get in the right place at the right time!!...and the guys at > > work now keep an eye out for things like this > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/rockbank.jpg > > > > Jane > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: OT: in need of some weather software testers Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:17:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. I am in need of a few/lot of testers to try some weather software I am putting together. It connects via the net to several (limited by your link and memory) to remote weather servers and displays info on a screen you design using an editor simalar to a web page editor. I simply need a few people to run the rough copy to see how my server handles multiple connections. If anyone is interested please contact me offlist..... -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:34:59 +1100 Organization: The Weather Co. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Fantastic. The first was a great shot. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jane ONeill Sent: Friday, 10 January 2003 1:59 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' Robyn & all, I've got more images of this coming from the photographer and will put them up when received. Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky and Weather www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward.*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Sent: Friday, 10 January 2003 1:46 Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' > We were driving past this fire on our way back to Ballarat when this > 'ash-spout' was as it's best. It was an amazing sight - of course we didn't > have a camera with us... so we just watched for a little bit. The > spout gradually collapsed into a huge whirly-wind and was soon > accompanied by three more. They stayed at the edge of the fire and > must have been a pain for the fire crews - it was easy to see how more > fires could have started up > farther out when these things were sucking up ash and embers. The fire > was just a grass fire over flat paddocks next to the Western Highway > on a very hot and windy day. > > Robyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane ONeill" > To: "Aussie-wx" > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:10 PM > Subject: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' > > > > This from the front page of the Melton Express Telegraph a far > > western suburb (actually a town) of Melbourne, a "burnoff devil"!!! > > Some people manage to get in the right place at the right > > time!!...and the guys at work now keep an eye out for things like > > this > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/rockbank.jpg > > > > Jane > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: OT: in need of some weather software testers Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:40:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ok peter send a copy up please stephen sgalow at ihug.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Peter May Sent: Friday, 10 January 2003 1:17 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: OT: in need of some weather software testers Hi all. I am in need of a few/lot of testers to try some weather software I am putting together. It connects via the net to several (limited by your link and memory) to remote weather servers and displays info on a screen you design using an editor simalar to a web page editor. I simply need a few people to run the rough copy to see how my server handles multiple connections. 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Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
thanks for that michael i'll take that into consideration and check it out, reviews are good but first hand opinions are always a good backup as to bottom line comparisons, btw, did i say 6mp, doh, should have been 5mp.
 
regards
richard

 
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Date: Friday, 10 January 2003 8:46:00 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
 
You are probably right Richard, I am only going on memory from the few minutes I had it in my hand. To be perfectly honest after seeing it in the flesh I would not buy one. I think the difference between the $1000 4300 and $2500 5700 is not justified.
 
Michael
 
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning

hi michael,
 
i've been drooling over the 5700 for yonks, i was under the impression the max bulb was 5mins according to http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikoncp5700/page2.asp.
thats why i've singled this one out, longer bulb setting than most amoungst other great features like 8x zoom and 6mp.
 
richard
 
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Date: Thursday, 9 January 2003 10:55:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
 
The Canon G3 is certainly on my wish list too. Technology is moving so fast
that whatever you buy will feel dated a couple years later. My Canon A20
already feels like a kids toy.

My brother in law who is much richer then me recently got a Nikon Coolpix
5700. This one has Bulb settings, but the bulb has a maximum of either 30
secs or 1 min, which has to be selected through the menus. The camera also
has a 8X optical zoom.

We can be tempted to curse digital for not having the endless B like a SLR,
but digital pictures simply become very noisy at longer B settings.

For those whose budget does not stretch as far as a G3, I would suggest a
Nikon 4300. It has many of the features of the G3, and even the 5700. It can
be had for around $1000 at present which is great for a 4mp camera. It also
has a bulb which can go for 60 secs.

All this of course is pointless if like me you live in a night time
lightning proof location.

Michael



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From: "Dave Ellem" <stormboy2003 at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning


> G'day Paul,
>
> I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001.
All
> photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the
> camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful
> for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter
> speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process
> before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning
occurs
> in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster!
>
> If I could by a digi for under $2000Re aus-wx NE NSW low precipit.ems now I would probably go the Canon
G3 -
> produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of
> research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images
I
> wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job.
>
> If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are
> breathtaking!!!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ellem
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stargazer" <stargazer at picknowl.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
>
>
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the
> > surrounding clouds so well.
> >
> > What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he
> > have on the camera?
> > I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not
sure
> > yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from...
> > One that could give results like that would be great! :)))
> >
> > Regs. Paul.
> > (Stargazer)
> > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Bath" <mbath at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM
> > Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
> >
> >
> > > Please check out the initial rRe aus-wx NE NSW low precipit.ems eport form NE NSW last night - what a
> chase
> > > and night of lightning !!!
> > > - much, much more to be added when time allows !
> > >
> > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm
> > >
> > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially....
> > >
> > > cheers, Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ===================================================================
> > > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au
> > > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/
> > > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/
> > > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
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That is, the deepening Tasman Sea low starting to get some infeed from the monsoon depression, or so it appears.
I remember something like this happened 1 or 2 years ago.
 
 
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See what you mean. Lots I don't understand or ever will but what happened back then? A Pacific cyclone perhaps. I hear everyone laughing :-))
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Thought this looked interesting:
 
 
That is, the deepening Tasman Sea low starting to get some infeed from the monsoon depression, or so it appears.
I remember something like this happened 1 or 2 years ago.
 
 
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 From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:03:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Our skys are filled with an occasional chopper or 2 heading for the fires in the couple of National Parks around Canberra. Being an ex Numurkah boy, I spent many a time over in your area both socially and with the CFA.....
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Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2003 9:05 AM
To: aussie-weather
Subject: aus-wx: Awful sky

I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was a very fiery red.
Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say.
 
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I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was a very fiery red.
Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 08:43:27 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hi bussy,
 
saw all those fires on tv, looks like a weekendus horribilus for vic.
 
december...nsw.
january........vic.
february......s.a.?
 
richard
 
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Date: Saturday, 11 January 2003 8:37:38 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Awful sky
 
I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was a very fiery red.
Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 
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I suppose the 5700 selling point is the fast 8X zoom. To be perfectly honest I have counted on one hand the number of times I wished for something more than the 3X on my digital. 99% of the storm pics are taken at the 1X end of the scale, if anything a slightly smaller bottom end like a 28mm egquivalent would be more useful. The Kodak 4800 has that.
 
Michael
 
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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning

thanks for that michael i'll take that into consideration and check it out, reviews are good but first hand opinions are always a good backup as to bottom line comparisons, btw, did i say 6mp, doh, should have been 5mp.
 
regards
richard

 
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Date: Friday, 10 January 2003 8:46:00 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
 
You are probably right Richard, I am only going on memory from the few minutes I had it in my hand. To be perfectly honest after seeing it in the flesh I would not buy one. I think the difference between the $1000 4300 and $2500 5700 is not justified.
 
Michael
 
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Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning

hi michael,
 
i've been drooling over the 5700 for yonks, i was under the impression the max bulb was 5mins according to http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikoncp5700/page2.asp.
thats why i've singled this one out, longer bulb setting than most amoungst other great features like 8x zoom and 6mp.
 
richard
 
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Date: Thursday, 9 January 2003 10:55:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
 
The Canon G3 is certainly on my wish list too. Technology is moving so fast
that whatever you buy will feel dated a couple years later. My Canon A20
already feels like a kids toy.

My brother in law who is much richer then me recently got a Nikon Coolpix
5700. This one has Bulb settings, but the bulb has a maximum of either 30
secs or 1 min, which has to be selected through the menus. The camera also
has a 8X optical zoom.

We can be tempted to curse digital for not having the endless B like a SLR,
but digital pictures simply become very noisy at longer B settings.

For those whose budget does not stretch as far as a G3, I would suggest a
Nikon 4300. It has many of the features of the G3, and even the 5700. It can
be had for around $1000 at present which is great for a 4mp camera. It also
has a bulb which can go for 60 secs.

All this of course is pointless if like me you live in a night time
lightning proof location.

Michael



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ellem" <stormboy2003 at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning


> G'day Paul,
>
> I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001.
All
> photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the
> camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful
> for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter
> speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process
> before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning
occurs
> in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster!
>
> If I could by a digi for under $2000 now I would probably go the Canon
G3 -
> produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of
> research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images
I
> wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job.
>
> If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are
> breathtaking!!!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ellem
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stargazer" <stargazer at picknowl.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
>
>
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the
> > surrounding clouds so well.
> >
> > What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he
> > have on the camera?
> > I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not
sure
> > yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from...
> > One that could give results like that would be great! :)))
> >
> > Regs. Paul.
> > (Stargazer)
> > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Bath" <mbath at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM
> > Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
> >
> >
> > > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a
> chase
> > > and night of lightning !!!
> > > - much, much more to be added when time allows !
> > >
> > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm
> > >
> > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially....
> > >
> > > cheers, Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Broadford is covered by smoke haze, and the smell is unmistakable.
Cheers Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:04 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Awful sky

I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was a very fiery red.
Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:33:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Afternoon all, I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing. Can anyone enlighten me into which companies are using ethanol (I know Shell isn't)? The only servos that seem to use ethanol in Vic are apparently Safeway and some of the independents who have their petrol delivered in from over the border. Do they use ethanol in anything except unleaded in NSW? Is Queensland using it too? Thanks for your thoughts, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Chris Daley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:55:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The only company who openly admits to using ethanol is BP who are trialing it at a select few service stations in Qld. But the general feeling that seems to be going around is that most if not all companies are using ethanol in there unleaded petrol. I only use Optimax or Synergy in my car and fortunately the 'premium' unleaded fuels can't be blended with ethanol as from what I have been told it is not compatible with some of the additives they use. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol > Afternoon all, > > I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the > border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse > (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with > unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get > petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've > determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A > couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing. > > Can anyone enlighten me into which companies are using ethanol (I know > Shell isn't)? The only servos that seem to use ethanol in Vic are > apparently Safeway and some of the independents who have their petrol > delivered in from over the border. > > Do they use ethanol in anything except unleaded in NSW? Is Queensland > using it too? > > Thanks for your thoughts, > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:57:14 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com As far as I know most independents in NSW use ethanol. I avoid it like the plague. If your car is running like that it's a sure sign the 'cheap' petrol is doing it no good. It would be good if all these public servants in all levels of government would agree on the implementation of uniform rules re ethanol and information pertaining to it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol > Afternoon all, > > I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the > border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse > (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with > unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get > petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've > determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A > couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing. > > Can anyone enlighten me into which companies are using ethanol (I know > Shell isn't)? The only servos that seem to use ethanol in Vic are > apparently Safeway and some of the independents who have their petrol > delivered in from over the border. > > Do they use ethanol in anything except unleaded in NSW? Is Queensland > using it too? > > Thanks for your thoughts, > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:00:02 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Most of them are using the E10 mixture and agreed, the car runs like a piece of rubbish.
Ive since found out that selected independant stations are selling fuel with NO ethanol content, and the car is now running like the literal rocket!

For Queenslanders... the cut price Woolworths Fuel stations sell with NO ethanol content at all, hence it is where i fill up.
Lawnmowers, brushcutters and other motorised (petrol reliant) equipment are at the same risk of engine damage also.


Regards
Dale





on 11/01/2003 15:33, Jane ONeill at cadence at australianskynweather.com wrote:

Afternoon all,

I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the
border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse
(and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with
unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get
petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've
determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A
couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing.

Can anyone enlighten me into which companies are using ethanol (I know
Shell isn't)?  The only servos that seem to use ethanol in Vic are
apparently Safeway and some of the independents who have their petrol
delivered in from over the border.

Do they use ethanol in anything except unleaded in NSW? Is Queensland
using it too?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Jane

--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at australianskynweather.com

Australian Sky & Weather
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au

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 From: "Chris Daley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:01:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sorry, also meant to mention to be careful when you look at going to some of the smaller chains like Burmah and Metro Fuel here in Vic. (Not sure if they are interstate, but keep an eye out for them) They sometimes use imported fuel from Asia which IS blended with ethanol. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Daley" To: Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol > The only company who openly admits to using ethanol is BP who are trialing > it at a select few service stations in Qld. But the general feeling that > seems to be going around is that most if not all companies are using ethanol > in there unleaded petrol. I only use Optimax or Synergy in my car and > fortunately the 'premium' unleaded fuels can't be blended with ethanol as > from what I have been told it is not compatible with some of the additives > they use. > > Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane ONeill" > To: "Aussie-wx" > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 4:33 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol > > > > Afternoon all, > > > > I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the > > border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse > > (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with > > unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get > > petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've > > determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A > > couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing. > > > > Can anyone enlighten me into which companies are using ethanol (I know > > Shell isn't)? The only servos that seem to use ethanol in Vic are > > apparently Safeway and some of the independents who have their petrol > > delivered in from over the border. > > > > Do they use ethanol in anything except unleaded in NSW? Is Queensland > > using it too? > > > > Thanks for your thoughts, > > > > Jane > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:17:55 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-108.7, required 5, AWL, BALANCE_FOR_LONG, IN_REP_TO, PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_KMAIL, USER_IN_WHITELIST, X_NOT_PRESENT) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 15:33, sabato 11 gennaio 2003, Jane ONeill wrote this piece of wisdom: > I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the > border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse > (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with > unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get > petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've > determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A > couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing. AFAIK the only problems ethanol causes are to the seals and stuff like that, not the actual engine itself. What I'd like to see is cars designed to run 100% ethanol or petrol. It's a much better system than relying on oil from other countries to run cars and would be good for farmers. A really forward thinking governement would legislate that all new cars sold in australia after a couple of years be capable of running 100% ethanol. David - -- If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day. If you teach them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+H7cTZOfFgbBAbXARAkToAKCTbcm67wdgmlBv3ejwidH1quDEcgCeKXoh 7QU3RzSJ5Q1VV+kcjbBuO3A= =tgYl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:36:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com David & all, Being totally subjective firstly, the most immediate problem to the car is the problem that the driver encounters with a car running like a pig. I'm sure that people who pay $80,000 to buy the car of their dreams will be delighted to be told that they may have a problem with their seals & stuff because of the fuel that they use..... and I have yet to see any servo that advertises in anything other than the *tiniest* writing that they are using E10. Btw, which seals does it cause a problem with? Having replaced the valve stem seals in the Commodore (which seems to be tied into changes of oil used in this particular model - Holden were kind enough to pay the $1,200 it would have cost even though it was well out of warranty which I thought was interesting), 'seals and stuff' are not an insignificant part of the engine....... >What I'd like to see is cars designed to run > 100% ethanol or petrol. It's a much better system than relying on oil from > other countries to run cars and would be good for farmers. Isn't petrol a derivative of oil? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Findlay" To: Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 5:17 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 15:33, sabato 11 gennaio 2003, Jane ONeill wrote this piece of wisdom: > > I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the > > border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse > > (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with > > unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get > > petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've > > determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A > > couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing. > > AFAIK the only problems ethanol causes are to the seals and stuff like that, > not the actual engine itself. What I'd like to see is cars designed to run > 100% ethanol or petrol. It's a much better system than relying on oil from > other countries to run cars and would be good for farmers. A really forward > thinking governement would legislate that all new cars sold in australia > after a couple of years be capable of running 100% ethanol. > > David > > - -- > If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day. If you teach > them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+H7cTZOfFgbBAbXARAkToAKCTbcm67wdgmlBv3ejwidH1quDEcgCeKXoh > 7QU3RzSJ5Q1VV+kcjbBuO3A= > =tgYl > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:55:04 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-108.8, required 5, AWL, BALANCE_FOR_LONG, IN_REP_TO, PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_KMAIL, USER_IN_WHITELIST, X_NOT_PRESENT) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 16:36, sabato 11 gennaio 2003, Jane ONeill wrote this piece of wisdom: > Being totally subjective firstly, the most immediate problem to the car > is the problem that the driver encounters with a car running like a pig. Not being a mechanic I don't know exactly what courses this to happen the first time this type of petrol is used, but I can only speculate that the computers aren't designed to tune the engine for the slightly different preformance characteristics of ethanol. > I'm sure that people who pay $80,000 to buy the car of their dreams will > be delighted to be told that they may have a problem with their seals & > stuff because of the fuel that they use..... and I have yet to see any > servo that advertises in anything other than the *tiniest* writing that > they are using E10. Actually one we used a week ago on the Pacific highway did say that it used 10% ethanol. Can't remember where though. Others advertised 0%. > Btw, which seals does it cause a problem with? Having replaced the > valve stem seals in the Commodore (which seems to be tied into changes > of oil used in this particular model - Holden were kind enough to pay > the $1,200 it would have cost even though it was well out of warranty > which I thought was interesting), 'seals and stuff' are not an > insignificant part of the engine....... Dunno. I think it the gaskets and fuel lines, injector lines etc. The seals are consumables, thus not a part of the engines I suppose. > Isn't petrol a derivative of oil? Yes but it can also be synthesized chemically from other hydrocarbons. In any case I'm not saying that we should be using ethanol in current vehicles, only that vehicles that can use it should be developed. Thanks, David - -- If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day. If you teach them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+H7/IZOfFgbBAbXARAnTFAJ9O0i7c9AvesrX9ohmpXb0zx0HigwCeJWtC oboVf9bUe2zn5CeAUoaQnQs= =Kzei -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: cdsmith at bigpond.net.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:00:09 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane and all, Ethanol in petrolshould not make a great difference if the proportion is ten percent or less........unfortunately there is no legal requirement to show the proportion. I work for Shell in Geelong and talking with an interstate tanker driver it seems that a lot of ethanol is secretly put into service station tanks so that excise is avoided and profits are therefore 45cpl higher than they would be. He was talking about NSW. The big oil majors have a lot to lose with the authorities if caught doing this so I would say small servo operators and bigger indipendants would be the most likely to be involved. Annecdotal evidence would suggest that "supermarket" petrol is not that good and is not worthwhile even with the extra discount. This petrol is fully imported and has additives (MTBE is one additive) that are banned in various parts of the world. At Shell we don't even allow this stuff. It's horrible. I base this on the many discussions I have with people about petrol (and prices). Blatant plug<<<<<>>>>> The composition of Optimax means that it does give better performance and fuel economy (varies from car to car of course)......and Geelong Refinery is the only one in Australia that can make the components needed for Optimax, so we atleast support the local industry by using Opitmax, not overseas refineries that supply the "supermarkets". I will ask at work when I am on shift again what is going on regarding ethanol and other quality issues. This will be 15/01/03. Hope this helps a bit Cheers..........Clinton +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: "Aussie-Weather" Cc: "ewan mcleoud" Subject: aus-wx: tropical low Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:59:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ok folks seems like a tropical low in qld which has come from nt katherine area Stephen +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:01:50 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:00 PM 11/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Annecdotal evidence would suggest that "supermarket" petrol is not that >good and is not >worthwhile even with the extra discount. This petrol is fully imported and >has additives >(MTBE is one additive) that are banned in various parts of the world. At >Shell we don't >even allow this stuff. It's horrible. >I base this on the many discussions I have with people about petrol (and >prices). Well, my experience agrees with this. the "premium unleaded" from one of the supermarket outlets is nothing, compared to that from the major oil companies. I prefer to use premium unleaded. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol. Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:36:48 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We dont have the ethanol problem here in the NT - our petrol comes from Singapore and is of a very high quality. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol. > At 06:00 PM 11/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > >Annecdotal evidence would suggest that "supermarket" petrol is not that > >good and is not > >worthwhile even with the extra discount. This petrol is fully imported and > >has additives > >(MTBE is one additive) that are banned in various parts of the world. At > >Shell we don't > >even allow this stuff. It's horrible. > >I base this on the many discussions I have with people about petrol (and > >prices). > > Well, my experience agrees with this. the "premium unleaded" from one of > the supermarket outlets is nothing, compared to that from the major oil > companies. I prefer to use premium unleaded. > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vkradio.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:16:44 +1100 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 1. Fuel injection systems and carburettors are adjusted to meter fuel by weight NOT volume. 2. Ethanol is lighter than petrol (ie, less dense). 3. With any ethanol mixed and petrol, there will be a reduction in the weight (specific gravity, ie, density) of the fuel mixture, so the mixture will tend rich by the same amount, all other things being equal. 4. The density difference with minimal ethanol mixtures, such as 5 percent or 10 percent is however minimal, but see below. 5. The significant difference is the calorific value of ethanol, which is only 68 percent that of your average petrol. 6. What an E10 mix does is it effectively reduces the heat value of the fuel available for producing power. For example, if a heat unit value of 100 percent petrol is 100 (ie 100 x 1) then the heat value of E10 is [(100 x 0.9) + (10 x .68)] = [90 + 6.8] = 96.8 Hence, a reduction of 3.2 percent of available heat energy for conversion into power. 7. Lets say you increased it to E20, then you have [(100 x 0.8) + (20 x 0.68)] = [80 + 13.4] = 93.4 Hence, a reduction of 6.6 percent of available heat energy for conversion into power. 8. Now, returning to the metering by the carby and fuel injector systems. They are different. Carburettors work by metering fuel by "weight" against airflow by "vacuum", NOT weight (mass) of airflow. For example, even with ordinary petrol, if you drive up into the mountains, say the top of the snowy mountains, your car will run slightly rich, because the air density is less for the same vacuum depression developed in the carby throat (venturi). So, the air / fuel ratio (by mass) going into the engine will be less, or put in reverse, the fuel / air ratio (by mass) [the standard terminology] will be greater, ie, richer. Now, with E10, the effect is to reduce the weight of the fuel being metered for any given airflow into the engine. Since the fuel is lighter, MORE will be sucked in for any given vacuum in the venturi, by the ratio of the mass difference. This mass difference is only about 1.5 percent at E10, so you will use 1.5 percent more fuel (in volume, ie litres) to get that 96.8 percent power (from above) plus 1.5 percent of 96.8 percent (ie, 1.452 percent) for the additional fuel used. So, the final result is 96.8 + 1.452 = only 98.252 percent power (ie, a loss of 1.708 percent power), complete with an increase in fuel used of 1.5 percent. 9. Consequently, your car will produce slightly less power, and not go quite as far, on a tank of fuel. 10. Now, the issue is more complicated than just this, because the power band of the engine is slightly changed because combustion efficiency is slightly changed, and hence the ignition timing will not be optimal for the new fuel mix, therefore, further performance loss can be expected, especially at cruise (light throttle). It is likely that to maintain the same 100 kph you will have the foot down just a tad more than before to get the same power you need (after all, rolling resistance and aerodynamic drag have not changed) so the engine will need more of this less thermally efficient fuel/air (P90E10) mix, to develop the same required power. We calculated above we only got 98.252 percent power for 101.5 percent fuel used. Since we need the original 100 percent power to cruise at 100 kph as before, we now need 100/98.252 = 1.0178 times the power produced on this fuel, so open the throttle that little bit more (ie, 1.78 percent). That will use 1.78 percent more of this 1.5 percent volumetrically inefficient fuel, so what you end up with is a fuel use increase of (1.0178 x 1.015) = 1.033, ie an increase of fuel consumption by 3.3 percent. 11. Now, if your fuel costs per litre are 3.3 percent cheaper, you break even, assuming there are no other hidden costs, like maintenance of fuel pumps, replacement of seals more often, etc. As you know, the cost is not so much the cost of the components, but the garage charges for the work, which are astronomical, as we all know. Then there are the added on costs of the inconvenience of extra trips to the garage, the cab fares to and from to drop it off / pick it up, not to mention the inconvenience etc. Then there are the operating problems that may occur, difficulty of cold starts (especially in winter in the mountains if you fill up on the coast) etc. 12. Overall, in my humble opinion, the use of E10 is a bad idea in standard cars. The fact that the petrol stations and oil companies are lying through their teeth, and the governments through their regulators (or lack of) are doing nothing about it, even encouraging it, means the consumer is being screwed yet again. Down the track, we will be forced to do more costly maintenance on our cars, accept reduced reliability, and or eventually update our car to a newer model sooner than we would otherwise have done so, all of which increases the cost of motoring of course. 13. Sorry you asked now Jane ? Some interesting stuff. http://home.austarnet.com.au/davekimble/ethanol.pdf http://www.vattenfall.se/downloads/informationsmaterial/liquid_fuel.pdf Jane ONeill wrote: > > Afternoon all, > > I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the > border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse > (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with > unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get > petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've > determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A > couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing. > > Can anyone enlighten me into which companies are using ethanol (I know > Shell isn't)? The only servos that seem to use ethanol in Vic are > apparently Safeway and some of the independents who have their petrol > delivered in from over the border. > > Do they use ethanol in anything except unleaded in NSW? Is Queensland > using it too? > > Thanks for your thoughts, > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:37:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > 13. Sorry you asked now Jane ? No, not at all Peter. I really appreciate the indepth explanation, which I found very easy to understand. I'm also pleased that I'm not 'crazy' as a couple of servo people have intimated when I asked them about E10 & they launched into the 'official' "ethanol will save Australia and doesn't do any damage to engines as has been proven by......" rhetoric!!!! Pity we don't have enough people to create a lobby group with any clout! means that I'm going to have to spend more money to run the car when I'm in NSW, as I'm not prepared to go through that 'running like a pig' experience again...... Thanks to everyone with some input into this - there's great knowledge on this list!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:07:48 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
$1200 TO REPLACE STEM SEALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 
what type of engine does your car have?
 
richard
 
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Date: Saturday, 11 January 2003 5:12:50 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol
 
David & all,

Being totally subjective firstly, the most immediate problem to the car
is the problem that the driver encounters with a car running like a pig.

I'm sure that people who pay $80,000 to buy the car of their dreams will
be delighted to be told that they may have a problem with their seals &
stuff because of the fuel that they use..... and I have yet to see any
servo that advertises in anything other than the *tiniest* writing that
they are using E10.

Btw, which seals does it cause a problem with? Having replaced the
valve stem seals in the Commodore (which seems to be tied into changes
of oil used in this particular model - Holden were kind enough to pay
the $1,200 it would have cost even though it was well out of warranty
which I thought was interesting), 'seals and stuff' are not an
insignificant part of the engine.......

>What I'd like to see is cars designed to run
> 100% ethanol or petrol. It's a much better system than relying on oil
from
> other countries to run cars and would be good for farmers.
Isn't petrol a derivative of oil?

Jane

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Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at australianskynweather.com

Australian Sky & Weather
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Findlay" <david at davsoft.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol


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> On 15:33, sabato 11 gennaio 2003, Jane ONeill wrote this piece of
wisdom:
> > I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the
> > border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much**
worse
> > (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with
> > unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get
> > petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again.
I've
> > determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A
> > couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing.
>
> AFAIK the only problems ethanol causes are to the seals and stuff like
that,
> not the actual engine itself. What I'd like to see is cars designed to
run
> 100% ethanol or petrol. It's a much better system than relying on oil
from
> other countries to run cars and would be good for farmers. A really
forward
> thinking governement would legislate that all new cars sold in
australia
> after a couple of years be capable of running 100% ethanol.
>
> David
>
> - --
> If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day. If
you teach
> them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime.
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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP67.gif: 00000001,1db409f3,00000000,00000000 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol. Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:45:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com What is MTBE? This petrol is fully imported and has additives > (MTBE is one additive) that are banned in various parts of the world. At Shell we don't > even allow this stuff. It's horrible. > I base this on the many discussions I have with people about petrol (and prices). All I can add is that premium is not available here. When I go on a "tour" I get premium if I can and the car certainly improves in power and smoothness. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:50:01 +1100 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether Bussy wrote: > > What is MTBE? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:48:21 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
origionally posted by david,
Dunno. I think it the gaskets and fuel lines, injector lines etc. The seals
are consumables, thus not a part of the engines I suppose.
--------------------------------------------------
huh??????????????
 
static seals should only need to be replaced when that seal is physically broken.
chemical erosion on seals and gaskets and lines can be a bane, usually causing swelling and softening or less common, shrinking and hardening which is usually caused by time and heat.
fluro-elastomer seals are being used more and more in engines noewdays and are pretty much impermiable to most forms of chemical attack encountered in an engine as well as being far less subject to time and heat.
valve stem seals won't usually give a problem in late model engines regardless of the type of oil used unless the engine's been cooked and then they're the least of your problems.
the commodore RB30E 6cyl nissan motor uses metal cap valve stem seals and should cost $2-300 lab.and $30-40 for the seals to replace, the nissan V6 buick engine uses mono moulded fluro-elastomer seals and will only stuff up through exessive valve guide wear, once again, $2-300lab. and $60-70 for the seals to replace them, holden V8 red, blue and black motor use a square section 'o' ring between the valve stem and cap and will never stuff up unless disturbed. $150-200 lab. and $5 for the seals to replace them. in all cases the heads DO NOT NEED TO BE REMOVED to replace the valve stem seals.
 
a short note to anyone who works on engines, fluro-elastomer compounds when they have exessive heat applied break down in hydroflouric acid if you get this on your skin it is extremely difficult to remove and absorbtion into the body is fatal.
 
regards
richard
 

 
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Date: Saturday, 11 January 2003 5:33:50 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol
 
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On 16:36, sabato 11 gennaio 2003, Jane ONeill wrote this piece of wisdom:
> Being totally subjective firstly, the most immediate problem to the car
> is the problem that the driver encounters with a car running like a pig.

Not being a mechanic I don't know exactly what courses this to happen the
first time this type of petrol is used, but I can only speculate that the
computers aren't designed to tune the engine for the slightly different
preformance characteristics of ethanol.

> I'm sure that people who pay $80,000 to buy the car of their dreams will
> be delighted to be told that they may have a problem with their seals &
> stuff because of the fuel that they use..... and I have yet to see any
> servo that advertises in anything other than the *tiniest* writing that
> they are using E10.

Actually one we used a week ago on the Pacific highway did say that it used
10% ethanol. Can't remember where though. Others advertised 0%.

> Btw, which seals does it cause a problem with? Having replaced the
> valve stem seals in the Commodore (which seems to be tied into changes
> of oil used in this particular model - Holden were kind enough to pay
> the $1,200 it would have cost even though it was well out of warranty
> which I thought was interesting), 'seals and stuff' are not an
> insignificant part of the engine.......

Dunno. I think it the gaskets and fuel lines, injector lines etc. The seals
are consumables, thus not a part of the engines I suppose.

> Isn't petrol a derivative of oil?

Yes but it can also be synthesized chemically from other hydrocarbons. In any
case I'm not saying that we should be using ethanol in current vehicles, only
that vehicles that can use it should be developed. Thanks,

David

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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP68.gif: 00000001,3e0999fd,00000000,00000000 X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:58:02 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:45 PM 11/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >All I can add is that premium is not available here. When I go on a "tour" I >get premium if I can and the car certainly improves in power and smoothness. There's definitely an improvement with premium, and also, premium is not always premium. I prefer to stick with the big name brands, they've proven to be good in actual performance. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:04:24 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
thats why i like diesel peter, more bang for your buck, not only that, i mix it with filtered waste cooking oil at about 3:1, one being diesel, cheap running and the tasty smell of a fish and chip shop as a bonus.
 
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Date: Saturday, 11 January 2003 6:52:59 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol
 
1. Fuel injection systems and carburettors are adjusted to meter fuel by
weight NOT volume.
2. Ethanol is lighter than petrol (ie, less dense).
3. With any ethanol mixed and petrol, there will be a reduction in the
weight (specific gravity, ie, density) of the fuel mixture, so the
mixture will tend rich by the same amount, all other things being equal.
4. The density difference with minimal ethanol mixtures, such as 5
percent or 10 percent is however minimal, but see below.
5. The significant difference is the calorific value of ethanol, which
is only 68 percent that of your average petrol.
6. What an E10 mix does is it effectively reduces the heat value of the
fuel available for producing power. For example, if a heat unit value
of 100 percent petrol is 100 (ie 100 x 1) then the heat value of E10 is
[(100 x 0.9) + (10 x .68)] = [90 + 6.8] = 96.8 Hence, a reduction of
3.2 percent of available heat energy for conversion into power.
7. Lets say you increased it to E20, then you have [(100 x 0.8) + (20 x
0.68)] = [80 + 13.4] = 93.4 Hence, a reduction of 6.6 percent of
available heat energy for conversion into power.
8. Now, returning to the metering by the carby and fuel injector
systems. They are different. Carburettors work by metering fuel by
"weight" against airflow by "vacuum", NOT weight (mass) of airflow. For
example, even with ordinary petrol, if you drive up into the mountains,
say the top of the snowy mountains, your car will run slightly rich,
because the air density is less for the same vacuum depression developed
in the carby throat (venturi). So, the air / fuel ratio (by mass) going
into the engine will be less, or put in reverse, the fuel / air ratio
(by mass) [the standard terminology] will be greater, ie, richer. Now,
with E10, the effect is to reduce the weight of the fuel being metered
for any given airflow into the engine. Since the fuel is lighter, MORE
will be sucked in for any given vacuum iRe aus-wx Ethanol in petrol.ems n the venturi, by the ratio of
the mass difference. This mass difference is only about 1.5 percent at
E10, so you will use 1.5 percent more fuel (in volume, ie litres) to get
that 96.8 percent power (from above) plus 1.5 percent of 96.8 percent
(ie, 1.452 percent) for the additional fuel used. So, the final result
is 96.8 + 1.452 = only 98.252 percent power (ie, a loss of 1.708 percent
power), complete with an increase in fuel used of 1.5 percent.
9. Consequently, your car will produce slightly less power, and not go
quite as far, on a tank of fuel.
10. Now, the issue is more complicated than just this, because the power
band of the engine is slightly changed because combustion efficiency is
slightly changed, and hence the ignition timing will not be optimal for
the new fuel mix, therefore, further performance loss can be expected,
especially at cruise (light throttle). It is likely that to maintain
the same 100 kph you will have the foot down just a tad more than before
to get the same power you need (after all, rolling resistance and
aerodynamic drag have not changed) so the engine will need more of this
less thermally efficient fuel/air (P90E10) mix, to develop the same
required power. We calculated above we only got 98.252 percent power
for 101.5 percent fuel used. Since we need the original 100 percent
power to cruise at 100 kph as before, we now need 100/98.252 = 1.0178
times the power produced on this fuel, so open the throttle that little
bit more (ie, 1.78 percent). That will use 1.78 percent more of this
1.5 percent volumetrically inefficient fuel, so what you end up with is
a fuel use increase of (1.0178 x 1.015) = 1.033, ie an increase of fuel
consumption by 3.3 percent.
11. Now, if your fuel costs per litre are 3.3 percent cheaper, you break
even, assuming there are no other hidden costs, like maintenance of fuel
pumps, replacement of seals more often, etc. As you know, the cost is
not so much the cost of the compoRe aus-wx Ethanol in petrol.ems nents, but the garage charges for the
work, which are astronomical, as we all know. Then there are the added
on costs of the inconvenience of extra trips to the garage, the cab
fares to and from to drop it off / pick it up, not to mention the
inconvenience etc. Then there are the operating problems that may
occur, difficulty of cold starts (especially in winter in the mountains
if you fill up on the coast) etc.
12. Overall, in my humble opinion, the use of E10 is a bad idea in
standard cars. The fact that the petrol stations and oil companies are
lying through their teeth, and the governments through their regulators
(or lack of) are doing nothing about it, even encouraging it, means the
consumer is being screwed yet again. Down the track, we will be forced
to do more costly maintenance on our cars, accept reduced reliability,
and or eventually update our car to a newer model sooner than we would
otherwise have done so, all of which increases the cost of motoring of
course.
13. Sorry you asked now Jane ?

Some interesting stuff.
http://home.austarnet.com.au/davekimble/ethanol.pdf
http://www.vattenfall.se/downloads/informationsmaterial/liquid_fuel.pdf


Jane ONeill wrote:
>
> Afternoon all,
>
> I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the
> border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse
> (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with
> unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get
> petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've
> determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A
> couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing.
>
> Can anyone enlighten me into which companiRe aus-wx Ethanol in petrol.ems es are using ethanol (I know
> Shell isn't)? The only servos that seem to use ethanol in Vic are
> apparently Safeway and some of the independents who have their petrol
> delivered in from over the border.
>
> Do they use ethanol in anything except unleaded in NSW? Is Queensland
> using it too?
>
> Thanks for your thoughts,
>
> Jane
>
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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP69.gif: 00000001,3ac2ff99,00000000,00000000 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:40:20 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aus-wx Subject: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, I've uploaded a chase report with a heap of lightning photos up at: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/08_01_03ac.html It was my first real go at lightning photography (although I have taken a handful in the past, I had never tried overly hard at it). This was the most spectacular lightning display I had ever seen before! Hope you enjoy it...although the experience of being there was the real thing! -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 23:55:30 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com More absolutely stunning photos...that had to be a night in a million!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't think I've ever seen anything quite as amazing as all of the photos that were taken of this night by all the photographers!!!!!! -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:40 PM Subject: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report > Hi Everyone, > > I've uploaded a chase report with a heap of lightning photos up at: > > http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/08_01_03ac.html > > It was my first real go at lightning photography (although I have taken > a handful in the past, I had never tried overly hard at it). This was > the most spectacular lightning display I had ever seen before! > > Hope you enjoy it...although the experience of being there was the real > thing! > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.220.153.116] From: "Dave Ellem" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:40:26 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2003 21:40:33.0643 (UTC) FILETIME=[11F9BBB0:01C2B9BA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Top work Anthony!!!! I think you have taken some brilliant CGs there and Jason's digi pics are also increadible - they look so close up with the lightning!! Also, the later photos light up the storm sturcture so well! Fantastic work. I must say it is pretty cool to be able to recognise inidividual CGs in different people's photos!! When I was reading your report I thought, 'hey I recognise that CG'! Very cool! BTW a full report is up now at ASW: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm if you're interested in times and exposure details of the photos go to this report: http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/storm_chasing/2003/docs/2003-01-01.htm and scroll the mouse over the images for details. Also, some of MB's lightning work got into the paper yesterday and can be seen here: http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/media/20030111nstar-p4.jpg Dave Ellem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:40 PM Subject: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report > Hi Everyone, > > I've uploaded a chase report with a heap of lightning photos up at: > > http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/08_01_03ac.html > > It was my first real go at lightning photography (although I have taken > a handful in the past, I had never tried overly hard at it). This was > the most spectacular lightning display I had ever seen before! > > Hope you enjoy it...although the experience of being there was the real > thing! > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:52:48 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Anthony, Excellent photographs of the lightning display. You can see the nice dry air and what it can achieve in terms of crisp lightning. Together with the detached shelf cloud, it forms a magnificent display. Jimmy Deguaar At 10:40 PM 11/1/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >I've uploaded a chase report with a heap of lightning photos up at: > >http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/08_01_03ac.html > >It was my first real go at lightning photography (although I have taken >a handful in the past, I had never tried overly hard at it). This was >the most spectacular lightning display I had ever seen before! > >Hope you enjoy it...although the experience of being there was the real >thing! >-- >Anthony Cornelius >Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the >Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) >(07) 3390 4812 >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:43:19 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Discussions on inflow vs roll cloud/shelf cloud features Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jimmy, Some interesting thoughts. When I first saw this feature, I initially thought it was a roll cloud. However it became attached to the storm eg: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/080103/08-01-03-28.jpg And eventually became flowing into the main updraft, keep in mind that there is a storm to the left of the photo (the main one), and another storm developed behind it (which is where the lightning is coming from). My thoughts are this initially developed as a roll cloud from the storm behind the larger storm. However as the main storm dominated, it began to draw in the moist outflow air from the weaker storm, developing an inflow band! I have seen this happen before, normally the storm weakens soon after it does this (and it did), simply because it's not the 'ideal' air for the storm to take in. There's also been some discussion on what direction the inflow should be coming into, well the inflow band was aligned NW to SE, but most inflow bands I've seen, the air at the surface doesn't always run parallel to. In fact, some of the better inflow bands I've seen, the air is running orthogonal to at the surface! For example: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/091002/pan3.JPG and http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/091002/pan1.jpg (Chase report for the Oct 9, 2002 supercell: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/09_10_02ac.html ) The inflow band is off to the NW, but the winds are from the NE here. Another example: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/00-01/031100/ac_13.jpg (Chase report for the Nov 4, 2000 supercell: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/00-01/03_11_00ac.html ) Here the storm is looking to the W, the winds are coming in from the N, but the inflow band extends off to the SE! (On the left), while the outflow region is on the NE side. Sometimes I feel with larger storms, the inflow band develops where it wants to, rather than where it should! December 4 supercell from 2002 last year was another example where the inflow band ran orthogonal to the NE inflow, but I don't have captures uploaded of that yet...just this one: http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/KS1098.jpg You can see the flat stretched outright flowing into the storm, but to the right of this image was a nice inflow band running through from the NW. AC Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > Hi all, > > Sorry the previous one was sent accidently I had not finished... > > At the moment I am trying to work out whether the pics of the NE NSW storms > are indicating inflow band or shelf cloud/roll cloud features. My > definition and research into inflow bands are that inflow bands are usually > extended in front of the storms and channel between the inflow and the > pseudo front operating from the storm itself. Note that inflow bands have > flow into the storm almost parallel to the inflow band > > Coffs Harbour inflow band had NE inflow and the inflow band extending to > the NE from the storms mesocyclone. Thsi is usually a sign of significant > rotation and that the storm is ready to drop a tornado. Which it did a > short time after - well let's say a tornadic funnel. > > Roll clouds normally have winds flowing over and usually perpendicular to > the roll cloud and interacting with outflow. This si what I believe was > happening in the NE NSW storms. > > After checking the direction of the storms - NE and the direction looking > at the storm - SE, it seems we are looking almost through the back of the > storm. The precipitation is on the southern side generally. What I have > noticed of storms in recent years of chasers that when storms approach the > ocean, their flows which are normally invisible become visible - well where > they intersect. > > This is the feature being referred to in the NE NSW storms > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb16.jpg > first signs of development > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb22.jpg > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb26.jpg > this is probably a better example of the feature meeting the updraught > further in > > These storms were apparently over the ocean when the features were > observed. What I am suggesting is, were these features similar to the > following types of features: > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/1003jd36.jpg > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/1003jd40.jpg > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/221102_01_v.jpg > note the inflow (although we cannot tell what that is from this angle) is > above and the roll cloud is below. > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/221102_02_v.jpg > > Not a good example but still showing features of flow interacting with the > moist air over the ocean: > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/1124jd05.jpg > > A better example: > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0208am01.jpg > remember this looking from a different angle with respect to the storm and > the guys would have been closer to the feature and looking towards the rain > area. Also this is slightly > > ok just recalled US examples from last year: > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0604jd04.jpg > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0604jd03.jpg > > now the following is interesting > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0527jd01.jpg > > there is inflow on the left hand side which extended a long way out of the > storm beyond what this photo suggested but on the right is a detached roll > cloud. > > Anyway, some thoughts on this spectacular event in NE NSW - good to see > some action up there. > > Any other thoughts from others? > > Jimmy Deguara > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Australian Sky & Weather site update Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:03:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, Have finally got around to doing a bit of updating to the site - have added images of the October duststorm and December Bass Strait eddy as well as some more images to the Spring and Summer photography pages. http://www.stormchasers.au.com More to come in the next week. Weather watchers outside the southern states may be rather interested in this captured over Melbourne in spring (with overshoot? you will note) Would someone like to give it its correct name please? http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Sept02/cbovermel.jpg Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:01:52 +1030 From: Richard Albury User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anthony Cornelius wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >I've uploaded a chase report with a heap of lightning photos up at: > >http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/08_01_03ac.html > >It was my first real go at lightning photography (although I have taken >a handful in the past, I had never tried overly hard at it). This was >the most spectacular lightning display I had ever seen before! > >Hope you enjoy it...although the experience of being there was the real >thing! > > Hi Anthony Great pics mate. Well done !! As you said being there is most the experience;pity this site wasn't going in 1969 when I lived in Parap (Darwin), however neither was the Internet then either. The lighting there can get spectacular there this time of year. 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Point Stuart NT had 989 mm yesterday. Hell that's a lot of rain!!!
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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that will be because of the tropical low in the gulf now bussy
I am watching it
stephen
Wicen brisbane
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Point Stuart NT had 989 mm yesterday. Hell that's a lot of rain!!!
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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Unless it fell between 7:30am and 8:30 this morning, somthing is wrong, lol

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Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:27 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Big rain

Point Stuart NT had 989 mm yesterday. Hell that's a lot of rain!!!
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Craig Arthur" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Big rain Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:48:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com As I noted elsewhere, that is highly dodgy! The Point Stuart AWS regularly reports rather 'dubious' obs, -37 degrees was reported the other day as an example. 989mm would break the NT 24 rainfall record by several hundred millimetres (thanks to Paul Mossman for that info). However, if you take a look at Mornington Island for the past few days, you might be impressed... Craig Arthur -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Simon Angell Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2003 11:41 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big rain Unless it fell between 7:30am and 8:30 this morning, somthing is wrong, lol http://www.weatherzone.com.au/observations/history.jsp?wmo=94127&name=Point _Stuart&type=synop Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Bussy To: aussie-weather Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: aus-wx: Big rain Point Stuart NT had 989 mm yesterday. Hell that's a lot of rain!!! http://www.abc.net.au/news/australia/weather/ Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big rain Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:49:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Most likely 98.9mm as rain had been falling for a few hours, just no totals except for 83mm when the last shower cleared... also the hay a max temp of -50.5 at 6:30pm yesterday...

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Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big rain

Unless it fell between 7:30am and 8:30 this morning, somthing is wrong, lol

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From: Bussy
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:27 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Big rain

Point Stuart NT had 989 mm yesterday. Hell that's a lot of rain!!!
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big rain Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:12:13 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com There was a similar 'blip' the other week in Queensland. An automatic station (forget where) had 840 mm whereas there was no rain anywhere nearby. We might be impressed again if that low moves down over eastern Qld and it interacts with Bellenden Ker (as well as other places of course).... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Arthur" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:48 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Big rain > As I noted elsewhere, that is highly dodgy! The Point Stuart AWS regularly > reports rather 'dubious' obs, -37 degrees was reported the other day as an > example. 989mm would break the NT 24 rainfall record by several hundred > millimetres (thanks to Paul Mossman for that info). > > However, if you take a look at Mornington Island for the past few days, you > might be impressed... > > Craig Arthur > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Simon Angell > Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2003 11:41 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big rain > > > Unless it fell between 7:30am and 8:30 this morning, somthing is wrong, lol > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/observations/history.jsp?wmo=94127&name=Point > _Stuart&type=synop > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bussy > To: aussie-weather > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:27 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Big rain > > > Point Stuart NT had 989 mm yesterday. Hell that's a lot of rain!!! > http://www.abc.net.au/news/australia/weather/ > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:13:48 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning = > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although = > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was = > a very fiery red. > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:28:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We can't see Ballarat, which is about 2.5 klms away. The haze and smoke has been getting steadily worse all day. Now we can smell the smoke. So what is a 'sunrise'? I just thought the sun was already up in the morning... Robyn Ballarat Vic > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning = > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although = > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was = > > a very fiery red. > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > Blair > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:29:03 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Sky & Weather site update Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane, It appears that a congesting cumulus has pushed a little higher after encountering an inversion in the mid levels, or am I way off in the height of this ? Shear looks very weak. The "anvil" level only appears to be about 4-5ks above the surface - do you agree ? cheers, Michael At 10:03 AM 12/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Morning all, > >Have finally got around to doing a bit of updating to the site - have >added images of the October duststorm and December Bass Strait eddy as >well as some more images to the Spring and Summer photography pages. >http://www.stormchasers.au.com More to come in the next week. > >Weather watchers outside the southern states may be rather interested in >this captured over Melbourne in spring (with overshoot? you will note) >Would someone like to give it its correct name please? >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Sept02/cbovermel.jpg > > >Cheers, > >Jane >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at australianskynweather.com > >Australian Sky & Weather >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >***The journey is the reward*** >-------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ =================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ =================================================================== From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Sky & Weather site update Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:11:58 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Either that or a TCu has hit an inversion and spread out, with stronger convection starting to push through the inversion (the overshooting "top"). Great pic. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 2:59 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Sky & Weather site update > Hi Jane, > > It appears that a congesting cumulus has pushed a little higher after > encountering an inversion in the mid levels, or am I way off in the height > of this ? Shear looks very weak. The "anvil" level only appears to be > about 4-5ks above the surface - do you agree ? > > cheers, Michael > > > > > At 10:03 AM 12/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > >Morning all, > > > >Have finally got around to doing a bit of updating to the site - have > >added images of the October duststorm and December Bass Strait eddy as > >well as some more images to the Spring and Summer photography pages. > >http://www.stormchasers.au.com More to come in the next week. > > > >Weather watchers outside the southern states may be rather interested in > >this captured over Melbourne in spring (with overshoot? you will note) > >Would someone like to give it its correct name please? > >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Sept02/cbovermel.jpg > > > > > >Cheers, > > > >Jane > >-------------------------------- > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne > >cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > >Australian Sky & Weather > >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > >Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > >***The journey is the reward*** > >-------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:30:45 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre probably. Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at Corryong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blair Trewin" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning = > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although = > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was = > > a very fiery red. > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > Blair > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:32:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I always wondered where the sun went at night time so I sat up all night and it finally dawned on me. Groan. Sorry couldn't help myself. :-) > We can't see Ballarat, which is about 2.5 klms away. The haze and smoke has > been getting steadily worse all day. Now we can smell the smoke. So what is > a 'sunrise'? I just thought the sun was already up in the morning... > > Robyn Ballarat Vic +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:58:07 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Im very glad we have Easterlies today...no smoke here thankgod, but our time will come. Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bussy" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:30 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre probably. > Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at Corryong. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Blair Trewin" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning > = > > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although > = > > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was > = > > > a very fiery red. > > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > > > Blair > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:20:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've put up a couple of photos of the view of the smoke plumes from Canberra's Mt Ainslie this afternoon. http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ You can see how lucky Canberra was today - just upwind of the smoke but not in it. Tuesday will very likely be a different story. Simon - that for putting up your cropped sat image on Weatherzone ( http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=00 0432;p=3 )- it shows the extent of the smoke very clearly. I didn't realise that the fires were burning so close to the Main Range around Mt Kosciuszko - hope they can keep the fires off the sensitive alpine tundra. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > Im very glad we have Easterlies today...no smoke here thankgod, but our time > will come. > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bussy" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:30 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre > probably. > > Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at Corryong. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Blair Trewin" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this > morning > > = > > > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. > Although > > = > > > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it > was > > = > > > > a very fiery red. > > > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > > > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > > > > > Blair > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:29:35 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com No problem re: the image, was going to send it here alos, but forgot... www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis.jpg Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:20 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > I've put up a couple of photos of the view of the smoke plumes from > Canberra's Mt Ainslie this afternoon. > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ > > You can see how lucky Canberra was today - just upwind of the smoke but not > in it. Tuesday will very likely be a different story. > > Simon - that for putting up your cropped sat image on Weatherzone ( > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=00 > 0432;p=3 )- it shows the extent of the smoke very clearly. I didn't realise > that the fires were burning so close to the Main Range around Mt > Kosciuszko - hope they can keep the fires off the sensitive alpine tundra. > > Patrick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Angell" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > Im very glad we have Easterlies today...no smoke here thankgod, but our > time > > will come. > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bussy" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:30 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre > > probably. > > > Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at Corryong. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Blair Trewin" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this > > morning > > > = > > > > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. > > Although > > > = > > > > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it > > was > > > = > > > > > a very fiery red. > > > > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > > > > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > > > > > > > Blair > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:31:02 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Oh and also... Nice pics!!! they were putting off some nice PyroCU this afternoon, went on the roof to get pics, but camera had died :( Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:20 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > I've put up a couple of photos of the view of the smoke plumes from > Canberra's Mt Ainslie this afternoon. > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ > > You can see how lucky Canberra was today - just upwind of the smoke but not > in it. Tuesday will very likely be a different story. > > Simon - that for putting up your cropped sat image on Weatherzone ( > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=00 > 0432;p=3 )- it shows the extent of the smoke very clearly. I didn't realise > that the fires were burning so close to the Main Range around Mt > Kosciuszko - hope they can keep the fires off the sensitive alpine tundra. > > Patrick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Angell" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > Im very glad we have Easterlies today...no smoke here thankgod, but our > time > > will come. > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bussy" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:30 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre > > probably. > > > Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at Corryong. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Blair Trewin" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this > > morning > > > = > > > > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. > > Although > > > = > > > > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it > > was > > > = > > > > > a very fiery red. > > > > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > > > > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > > > > > > > Blair > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:19:44 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:30 PM 12/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre probably. >Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at Corryong. Light smoke over Melbourne. Much cleaner on the coast at Torquay though. The sea breeze kept things cleaner. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 00:31:04 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I just re-did the modis image, from the start it didn't quite match up with my obs, realised that i had cut it off a litte to far to the south, so re-sampled it just now, and added a few labels for reference www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis.jpg (123kb) and also a larger file www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis-lrg.jpg (370kb) Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:29 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > No problem re: the image, was going to send it here alos, but forgot... > > www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis.jpg > > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Tobin" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:20 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > I've put up a couple of photos of the view of the smoke plumes from > > Canberra's Mt Ainslie this afternoon. > > > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ > > > > You can see how lucky Canberra was today - just upwind of the smoke but > not > > in it. Tuesday will very likely be a different story. > > > > Simon - that for putting up your cropped sat image on Weatherzone ( > > > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=00 > > 0432;p=3 )- it shows the extent of the smoke very clearly. I didn't > realise > > that the fires were burning so close to the Main Range around Mt > > Kosciuszko - hope they can keep the fires off the sensitive alpine tundra. > > > > Patrick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Simon Angell" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:58 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > Im very glad we have Easterlies today...no smoke here thankgod, but our > > time > > > will come. > > > > > > Cheers > > > --------------------------------- > > > Simon Angell > > > Canberra, ACT > > > www.canberra-wx.com > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > Proud member of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bussy" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:30 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre > > > probably. > > > > Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at > Corryong. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Blair Trewin" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this > > > morning > > > > = > > > > > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. > > > Although > > > > = > > > > > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but > it > > > was > > > > = > > > > > > a very fiery red. > > > > > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > > > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > > > > > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > > > > > > > > > Blair > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie-Wx" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 01:05:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com SORRY IF THIS COMES THROUGH TWICE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:38 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > Just a quick note, the compression factor was set rather high and the text > lost clarity, so again re-sampled them, fires-modis.jpg is now 180kb and > fires-modis-lrg.jpg is 500kb > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Angell" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:29 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > No problem re: the image, was going to send it here alos, but forgot... > > > > www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis.jpg > > > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Patrick Tobin" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:20 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > I've put up a couple of photos of the view of the smoke plumes from > > > Canberra's Mt Ainslie this afternoon. > > > > > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ > > > > > > You can see how lucky Canberra was today - just upwind of the smoke but > > not > > > in it. Tuesday will very likely be a different story. > > > > > > Simon - that for putting up your cropped sat image on Weatherzone ( > > > > > > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=00 > > > 0432;p=3 )- it shows the extent of the smoke very clearly. I didn't > > realise > > > that the fires were burning so close to the Main Range around Mt > > > Kosciuszko - hope they can keep the fires off the sensitive alpine > tundra. > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Simon Angell" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:58 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > Im very glad we have Easterlies today...no smoke here thankgod, but > our > > > time > > > > will come. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Simon Angell > > > > Canberra, ACT > > > > www.canberra-wx.com > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > Proud member of the > > > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Bussy" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:30 PM > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre > > > > probably. > > > > > Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at > > Corryong. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Blair Trewin" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this > > > > morning > > > > > = > > > > > > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. > > > > Although > > > > > = > > > > > > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but > > it > > > > was > > > > > = > > > > > > > a very fiery red. > > > > > > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > > > > > > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > > > > > > > > > > > Blair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > > your > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 00:44:29 +1000 From: 440077 at austarnet.com.au Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi. The day started off sunny then about 1pm the smoke came in but it was only high smoke but about 7pm the sun whent to a dark red and you could look at it without hurting or doing damage to your eyes...I got pic`s (I hope they come out) i didn`t get the dark red sun at it`s best as my camera jammed up...Did anyone around were the fires are get a red sun??? Cheers.Weathernut. ------------------------------- Weathernut. Wagga Wagga NSW Web site. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html ------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:09:54 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: aus-wx: My web site is now up and running. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi. Parts of my new web site are just about finished..I still have to do a lot of work on my links,forecast and storm reports pages..I hope you enjoy.. Cheers.Weathernut PS.My first posted worked.... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:20:47 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: My web site is now up and running. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi. It would of helped if i sent the address in my email...*Looks Embarrassed*...I try again. Here is the link. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html ------------------------------- Weathernut. Wagga Wagga NSW Web site. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html ------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:00:40 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com about 7pm the sun whent to a dark red and you could look at it without hurting or doing damage to your eyes... Oops, hang on mate!!! Looking directly at the Sun without proper eye protection, even if the Sun is partially covered by clouds, dust or even at Sunset, you run the *risk* of permanent eye damage to your retina. Your eyes act as a lenes focusing light on your retina & if you've seen what focused light from a lenes on a piece of paper can do... You've only got one set of eyes... remember that! :) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: <440077 at austarnet.com.au> To: Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:14 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > Hi. > The day started off sunny then about 1pm the smoke came in > but it was only high smoke but about 7pm the sun whent to a > dark red and you could look at it without hurting or doing > damage to your eyes...I got pic`s (I hope they come out) i > didn`t get the dark red sun at it`s best as my camera jammed > up...Did anyone around were the fires are get a red sun??? > Cheers.Weathernut. > > ------------------------------- > Weathernut. Wagga Wagga NSW > Web site. > http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html > ------------------------------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: My web site is now up and running. Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:01:56 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com What's the link? Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Weathernut" <440077 at austarnet.com.au> To: Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:39 AM Subject: aus-wx: My web site is now up and running. > Hi. > Parts of my new web site are just about finished..I still have to > do a lot of work on my links,forecast and storm reports pages..I > hope you enjoy.. > Cheers.Weathernut > > PS.My first posted worked.... > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie-Wx" Subject: aus-wx: Heavy storms in Darwin overnight. Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 04:16:47 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
For the second night in a row, Darwin has copped a beating.
Obs from the past hour...
 
Date and Time Temp (C) DewP (C) RH (%) Rain >9AM (mm) Difference
13/01/2003 1:00 24.1 23.5 96 28.4
13/01/2003 1:15 24 23.9 99 50.8 22.4
13/01/2003 1:30 23.9 23.8 99 86 57.6
13/01/2003 1:43 24.1 24 99 101.8 73.4
13/01/2003 2:00 24.1 24 99 121.4 93
 
93mm in 1 hour...impressive!!!!!
I would love to have been there, especially with the lightning activity.
 

Cheers
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Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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 From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heavy storms in Darwin overnight. Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 04:17:39 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
We could sure do with some of that wet stuff down south here... even just their last *hour* of rain would be nice :)))
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:46 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Heavy storms in Darwin overnight.

Hi all.
For the second night in a row, Darwin has copped a beating.
Obs from the past hour...
 
Date and Time Temp (C) DewP (C) RH (%) Rain >9AM (mm) Difference
13/01/2003 1:00 24.1 23.5 96 28.4
13/01/2003 1:15 24 23.9 99 50.8 22.4
13/01/2003 1:30 23.9 23.8 99 86 57.6
13/01/2003 1:43 24.1 24 99 101.8 73.4
13/01/2003 2:00 24.1 24 99 121.4 93
 
93mm in 1 hour...impressive!!!!!
I would love to have been there, especially with the lightning activity.
 

Cheers
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Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
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 From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heavy storms in Darwin overnight. Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 04:58:41 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Also there is an interesting feature on the Darwin AP radar, bow echo perhaps? doesn't show to well on Berrimah radar.
 

Cheers
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Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
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----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heavy storms in Darwin overnight.

We could sure do with some of that wet stuff down south here... even just their last *hour* of rain would be nice :)))
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:46 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Heavy storms in Darwin overnight.

Hi all.
For the second night in a row, Darwin has copped a beating.
Obs from the past hour...
 
Date and Time Temp (C) DewP (C) RH (%) Rain >9AM (mm) Difference
13/01/2003 1:00 24.1 23.5 96 28.4
13/01/2003 1:15 24 23.9 99 50.8 22.4
13/01/2003 1:30 23.9 23.8 99 86 57.6
13/01/2003 1:43 24.1 24 99 101.8 73.4
13/01/2003 2:00 24.1 24 99 121.4 93
 
93mm in 1 hour...impressive!!!!!
I would love to have been there, especially with the lightning activity.
 

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
---------------------------------------------
Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
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 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 07:55:15 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A very deep red. Visibility approx 1km. Much better this morning though. ----- Original Message ----- From: <440077 at austarnet.com.au> To: Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:44 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > Hi. > The day started off sunny then about 1pm the smoke came in > but it was only high smoke but about 7pm the sun whent to a > dark red and you could look at it without hurting or doing > damage to your eyes...I got pic`s (I hope they come out) i > didn`t get the dark red sun at it`s best as my camera jammed > up...Did anyone around were the fires are get a red sun??? > Cheers.Weathernut. > > ------------------------------- > Weathernut. Wagga Wagga NSW > Web site. > http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html > ------------------------------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:17:47 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Simon - the images provide a good perspective re Canberra. This morning's news reports suggest the Brindabella fires have spread somewhat since the time of the picture yesterday. It will be interesting to build up a time series progression over the next few days. Also of interest is the slightly different direction of the smoke plumes. The plumes from the higher altitude fires near the Main Range (and in Vic) seemed to be drifting in a more northerly direction in contrast to the plumes from the lower level fires which were moving more directly to the west (meaning the Wagga area probably got a double dose of smoke cominging from both the east and south (albeit at different levels) at the same time. The smoke drift is consistent with the wind directions shown in yesterday's Wagga sounding. There is some hope of some precipitation later in the week over the alpine regions. Hopefully this results in some rain rather than more dry storms - and enough rain to make some difference rather than just inhibit back burning operations. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:31 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > I just re-did the modis image, from the start it didn't quite match up with > my obs, realised that i had cut it off a litte to far to the south, so > re-sampled it just now, and added a few labels for reference > www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis.jpg (123kb) > > and also a larger file > www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis-lrg.jpg (370kb) > > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Angell" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:29 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > No problem re: the image, was going to send it here alos, but forgot... > > > > www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis.jpg > > > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Patrick Tobin" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:20 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > I've put up a couple of photos of the view of the smoke plumes from > > > Canberra's Mt Ainslie this afternoon. > > > > > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ > > > > > > You can see how lucky Canberra was today - just upwind of the smoke but > > not > > > in it. Tuesday will very likely be a different story. > > > > > > Simon - that for putting up your cropped sat image on Weatherzone ( > > > > > > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=00 > > > 0432;p=3 )- it shows the extent of the smoke very clearly. I didn't > > realise > > > that the fires were burning so close to the Main Range around Mt > > > Kosciuszko - hope they can keep the fires off the sensitive alpine > tundra. > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Simon Angell" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:58 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > Im very glad we have Easterlies today...no smoke here thankgod, but > our > > > time > > > > will come. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Simon Angell > > > > Canberra, ACT > > > > www.canberra-wx.com > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > Proud member of the > > > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Bussy" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:30 PM > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre > > > > probably. > > > > > Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at > > Corryong. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Blair Trewin" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this > > > > morning > > > > > = > > > > > > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. > > > > Although > > > > > = > > > > > > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but > > it > > > > was > > > > > = > > > > > > > a very fiery red. > > > > > > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > > > > > > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > > > > > > > > > > > Blair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > > your > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:45:54 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: My web site is now up and running. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sorry about that i forgot to put the link in. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html I hope you like it... Cheers.Weathernut. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 15:45:56 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi. here are 2 pic`s that i took yesterday at 6.00pm. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweath er/mysunpic.jpg (25KB) http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweath er/mysunpic1.jpg (29KB) This pic`s that were in todays Wagga Wagga Paper. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweath er/sun.jpg (Warning 621KB) http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweath er/sun1.jpg (142KB) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:15:38 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:44 AM 13/01/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi. >The day started off sunny then about 1pm the smoke came in >but it was only high smoke but about 7pm the sun whent to a >dark red and you could look at it without hurting or doing >damage to your eyes...I got pic`s (I hope they come out) i >didn`t get the dark red sun at it`s best as my camera jammed >up...Did anyone around were the fires are get a red sun??? Red sun over Melbourne this morning around 7AM, but I didn't have the camera on me. :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:16:56 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heavy storms in Darwin overnight. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 04:17 AM 13/01/2003 +1030, you wrote: >We could sure do with some of that wet stuff down south here... even just >their last *hour* of rain would be nice :))) What's rain? :-) All we get here these days is fine grained mud (sick of washing the car)... :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:52:12 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 22:40 11/01/03 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >I've uploaded a chase report with a heap of lightning photos up at: > >http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/08_01_03ac.html > >It was my first real go at lightning photography (although I have taken >a handful in the past, I had never tried overly hard at it). This was >the most spectacular lightning display I had ever seen before! > >Hope you enjoy it...although the experience of being there was the real >thing! >-- >Anthony Cornelius >Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the >Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) >(07) 3390 4812 >http://www.severeweather.asn.au Just checked your lightning shots, Anthony. some great shots. Wish we could get some nice night shots of lightning like that over here in NZ. JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: aus-wx: ACT/NSW Fires Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:01:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have put some new images up of the view of the fires from Canberra today 13 Jan. http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ A helicopter pilot is currently in a critical condition in Canberra hospital after his helicopter crashed into the waters of Bendora Dam. He was rescued from the lake by, among others, the ACT Chief Minister who was in another nearby helicopter at the same time. We wish the pilot a successful and speedy recovery. Patrick +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:34:52 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT/NSW Fires To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great photo`s...The fire is a lot bigger then i thought...I hope the helicopter pilot get will soon... Cheers.Weathernut ------------------------------- Weathernut. Wagga Wagga NSW Web site. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html ------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:05:40 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, another (thumbnailed) image of the 'burnoff devil' very kindly sent to me by Shawn Smits - Melton Express Telegraph http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/rockbank5t.jpg More images on their way with Shawn's observations and a few more as well. Should have a report up this week. Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Wind gust question Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:29:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Yesterday after wind speeds around 20 kmh a whirlwind came through and over my house and of course sent the anemometer spastic at 67.7 kmh. Should this be registered as a top/normal gust or discarded?
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:21:14 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi,
 
I don't know. I am not sure what is the rules for the wind gust record being made by the WMO. I think you should report as whirlwind sent 67.7kph whirlwind gust over your place instead of normal wind gust condition. I wouldn't accept the gust but will see what Bureau of Meteorology says if you email to them to suggest if it is acceptable to record it or not.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:59 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Yesterday after wind speeds around 20 kmh a whirlwind came through and over my house and of course sent the anemometer spastic at 67.7 kmh. Should this be registered as a top/normal gust or discarded?
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT/NSW Fires Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:25:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, I have put up today's pictures of smoke in Canberra - altogether much more gloomy than previous days.... Oh well I guess it is just like it is in Beijing, Moscow, Delhi, New York or large parts of the Northern Hemisphere most of the time!! http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ Patrick - looking forward very much to the easterly change (ie a very weakened version of yesterday's front that went through Victoria) expected in the next couple of hours. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.109.174.133] From: "John Roenfeldt" To: Subject: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:15:20 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2003 10:15:59.0869 (UTC) FILETIME=[EF5672D0:01C2BBB5] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here are some pics from the bushfire on Friday SE of Perth. http://www.inflowimages.com/chasereports/10012003/pyro.htm regards, John +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.134.119.176] From: "Brendon Simmons" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:57:03 +1030 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2003 10:27:03.0246 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ABDBEE0:01C2BBB7] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John, The pics are great...some interesting cloud features there too. Brendon >From: "John Roenfeldt" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth >Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:15:20 +0800 > >Here are some pics from the bushfire on Friday SE of Perth. > >http://www.inflowimages.com/chasereports/10012003/pyro.htm > >regards, > >John > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:37:29 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John, Wow!!! There is no doubt that you have attracted my attention because of the beautiful crispness of the pyrocumulus. Lovely pileus too. Must be some strong fires to maintain such powerful updraughts. Great pics. Jimmy Deguara At 06:15 PM 14/1/2003 +0800, you wrote: >Here are some pics from the bushfire on Friday SE of Perth. > >http://www.inflowimages.com/chasereports/10012003/pyro.htm > >regards, > >John > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:56:51 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great photos John - it looks like a volcano erupting!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Roenfeldt" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:15 PM Subject: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth > Here are some pics from the bushfire on Friday SE of Perth. > > http://www.inflowimages.com/chasereports/10012003/pyro.htm > > regards, > > John > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Wind gust question Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:48:35 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Well the same could be said for a Tornado? They give these things a plug on the radio etc with the comments "Record Winds" and yet they only last 30 seconds or so. I can remember as a kid mum running in the back door and shutting all the windows etc followed by the uprooting of tin and tile roofs that then flew over our backyard. I thought it was great. 30 seconds later and it was gone...
 
 
Just my 2 cents worth......
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Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2003 7:29 PM
To: aussie-weather
Subject: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Yesterday after wind speeds around 20 kmh a whirlwind came through and over my house and of course sent the anemometer spastic at 67.7 kmh. Should this be registered as a top/normal gust or discarded?
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

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Hi Bussy,
 
I meant did you talk about dust devil past your area? I have been thinking whirlwind according to dust devil.
 
From Nathan.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Hi,
 
I don't know. I am not sure what is the rules for the wind gust record being made by the WMO. I think you should report as whirlwind sent 67.7kph whirlwind gust over your place instead of normal wind gust condition. I wouldn't accept the gust but will see what Bureau of Meteorology says if you email to them to suggest if it is acceptable to record it or not.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:59 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Yesterday after wind speeds around 20 kmh a whirlwind came through and over my house and of course sent the anemometer spastic at 67.7 kmh. Should this be registered as a top/normal gust or discarded?
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Mark Dwyer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:22:35 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi jr, Yep it was a good one alright, And the Fire was started from a Lightning strike from a Storm that passed over the area the night before. The fire it's self was located near the small town of North Bannister which is SE of Perth. On the Albany Hwy, just over 60 Km from Armadale, or close to 85 Km from Perth. The Pileus was pretty good at times, the fire did burn out a large area of state forest and the Bibbulmin track. MJ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Roenfeldt" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:15 PM Subject: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth > Here are some pics from the bushfire on Friday SE of Perth. > > http://www.inflowimages.com/chasereports/10012003/pyro.htm > > regards, > > John > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: simon at fearby.com To: Subject: aus-wx: To the Kiwi's (NASA High resolution Satellite Photo of New Zealand 23rd Oct 2002) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:54:00 Pacific Standard Time X-Originating-Ip: [153.107.47.83] X-Mailer: NOCC v0.9.5 X-AntiSpam: Checked for restricted content by Gordano's AntiSpam Software Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com To the Kiwi's Here is a High Resolution NASA Satellite photo of New Zealand taken on the 23rd October 2002. Main: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=10881 High Res JPG of New Zealand: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/Images/NewZealand_TMO2002296_lrg.jpg I went to New Zealand on the 28th of October just after a storm system swept the south island. There were tornado's in Christchurch. Does anyone have archived NZ weather reports or maps from the 23rd of October 2002 to the 19th of November 2002? I took photos of storm cells that were heading towards NZ on the 28/Oct/2002 from the plane at 40,000ft and I am guessing the high res photo above was the start of this system. Simon Last one to the pub is a MCSE professional! -- My 3D FishTank Simulator / Screen Saver ----------------- ( DirectX 8.1 ) ----- Main: http://www.fearby.com/products/3dfishtank/default.shtml Screenshots: http://www.fearby.com/products/3dfishtank/screenshots.shtml Download: http://www.fearby.com/products/3dfishtank/evaluation.shtml ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:01:21 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Yeah, a dust devil. We had to go all over the neighbourhood to get the washing back :-))
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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Hi Bussy,
 
I meant did you talk about dust devil past your area? I have been thinking whirlwind according to dust devil.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Hi,
 
I don't know. I am not sure what is the rules for the wind gust record being made by the WMO. I think you should report as whirlwind sent 67.7kph whirlwind gust over your place instead of normal wind gust condition. I wouldn't accept the gust but will see what Bureau of Meteorology says if you email to them to suggest if it is acceptable to record it or not.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:59 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Yesterday after wind speeds around 20 kmh a whirlwind came through and over my house and of course sent the anemometer spastic at 67.7 kmh. Should this be registered as a top/normal gust or discarded?
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: dencot1 at aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:08:23 EST Subject: aus-wx: How to switch addresses To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows AU sub 10501 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have just been connected to a new internet provider and I need to change my email address on this list. Can anyone suggest how I should do this?
 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:08:30 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

An Update on the situation at Mt. Hotham from Kieth Boxer of MHRMB

 

Hi All,

 

The fire situation at Hotham has not changed greatly in the last couple of days as the wind has been moderate and the temperatures not excessive. 

 

The major fire close to us is the Feathertop fire which started in the West Kiewa. It has now burnt through an arc from Diamantina Spur around the northern slopes of Mt. Feathertop and over the northwest spur. The MUMC hut has been damaged but not destroyed by the fire. The fire is now approaching the Ovens Valley from the Stony Tops track area.

 

Although the Feathertop fire in the West Kiewa is still some distance from Hotham it is being monitored closely and equipment is being deployed in case the wind pushes it in our direction. Visibility is down to about 1km again today. Interestingly we have smoke coming in from the north and fog from the south!

 

NRE have a bull dozer on standby at Loch, this will be used to cut control lines if the need arises. There are 5 CFA tankers stationed at Hotham, another 5 stationed at Dinner Plain and 5 tankers in Omeo for back up if needed, plus the 3 Hotham/Dinner plain tankers.  

 

RMB staff have been through the village and cleared significant amounts of combustible material from around buildings with the aim of reducing the risk of ember attach if a fire approaches.

 

I will update you again in a couple of days or if the situation changes dramatically.

 

Regards
Keith G. Boxer
Property Manager
Mt. Hotham Resort Management
Ph     03 5759 3550
FAX  03 5759 3693
Mob  **************

 

 

James Holbeach

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Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering

University of Melbourne, Australia

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Tobin
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 9:39 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires

 

Thanks Simon,

 

I have put up a couple of images of the same fires seen from a bit further away - it was quite impressive...although I'd rather see some storms with rain/hail!!

 

 

 

 

Patrick

----- Original Message -----

From: Simon Angell

Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:18 PM

Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires

 

Fires Currently going to the W and SW of Canberra, In the Brindabella Mts and Namadgi NP... pic from about hour ago.

 


Cheers
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Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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----- Original Message -----

From: Bussy

Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:52 PM

Subject: aus-wx: Fires

 

Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(

 

Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

 From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:10:28 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Oh okay, I got it this time. Thats pretty cool to see dust devil. Hehehe.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Yeah, a dust devil. We had to go all over the neighbourhood to get the washing back :-))
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Hi Bussy,
 
I meant did you talk about dust devil past your area? I have been thinking whirlwind according to dust devil.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Hi,
 
I don't know. I am not sure what is the rules for the wind gust record being made by the WMO. I think you should report as whirlwind sent 67.7kph whirlwind gust over your place instead of normal wind gust condition. I wouldn't accept the gust but will see what Bureau of Meteorology says if you email to them to suggest if it is acceptable to record it or not.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:59 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Yesterday after wind speeds around 20 kmh a whirlwind came through and over my house and of course sent the anemometer spastic at 67.7 kmh. Should this be registered as a top/normal gust or discarded?
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:37:08 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Great photos John - it looks like a volcano erupting!!! > Once when I worked in Rockhampton, we had some new guys arrive from Sydney. One day there was a bushfire up on Mt Etna and smoke was billowing from the top. I shook my head and said; "Looks like the volcanoe's going to erupt again..." They all ran and got their cameras to photgraph it! Robyn +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:36:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow! What an amazing series of photos. I love the 'nuke' appearance to one of the updrafts in this photo http://www.inflowimages.com/chasereports/10012003/10012003-13.jpg ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Roenfeldt" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:15 PM Subject: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth > Here are some pics from the bushfire on Friday SE of Perth. > > http://www.inflowimages.com/chasereports/10012003/pyro.htm > > regards, > > John > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:48:12 +1100 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anyone know how to calculate the vertical velocity of the hot air from the fire ? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Konnecke" To: "Weather" Subject: aus-wx: BUSHFIRE HOT SPOTS ONLINE (OFF TOPIC) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:54:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thought this may be of interest to the group. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: BUSHFIRE HOT SPOTS ONLINE > > > Minister for Defence Media Mail List > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Wednesday, January 15 2003 06/2003 > > BUSHFIRE HOT SPOTS ONLINE > > Australian scientists have joined forces with Defence, CSIRO and Geoscience Australia to develop an online bushfire map that will help firefighters better detect and monitor blazes that threaten lives and property this bushfire season. > > The Sentinel Hotspots system was launched today. 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Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: Australian Weather News problem Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:49:54 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm shifting host servers for Australian Weather News, and there is a problem with the new server. Until it's resolved, you can access the old server, which is still being updated with realtime data, charts, etc., at http://66.186.211.80/. Hopefully, we'll have the problem fixed soon. Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:14:59 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My host server is upgrading servers. Unfortunately, both old and new servers have gone down. My hosting service is in the US of A, and at present I can get no information by phone or email from their helpdesk. I'll post more to this thread when I know more. If the new server gets going, http://australianweathernews.com will work, as the name has been delegated. If the old server gets going, http://66.186.211.80 will work. The ftp is working, so everything on the site is updating just fine; you just can't get at it with a web browser! Grrrrr A disgruntled Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:36:05 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Laurier.. Don`t worry im having problems with my site too..My web poll on my site has gone some were.I lost links and pic`s.so i have uploaded my back up which still hasn`t fixed up the problem... Does anyone know were i can get free HTML poll codes??? Cheers.Weathernut ------------------------------- Weathernut. Wagga Wagga NSW Web site. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html ------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:22:07 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sounds typical of moving a domain from one server to another. Register the new DNS and as the DNS gets updated around the world some have the old table and some have the new and they kind of fight each other. It usually all sorts itself out over around 24 hours. I've seen it happen plenty of times over the years. Expect no problems at all by this time tomorrow. Both are unreachable from Hong Kong at present. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:14:59 -0000 Subject: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air > My host server is upgrading servers. Unfortunately, both old and new > servers > have gone down. My hosting service is in the US of A, and at present I > can > get no information by phone or email from their helpdesk. I'll post > more to > this thread when I know more. If the new server gets going, > http://australianweathernews.com will work, as the name has been > delegated. > If the old server gets going, http://66.186.211.80 will work. The ftp > is > working, so everything on the site is updating just fine; you just > can't get > at it with a web browser! > > Grrrrr > > A disgruntled Laurier > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:25:02 +1100 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It bit of a pain, but we have to live with it I suppose whilst all the DNS servers update their databases. In my ISP's case, it seems to have reversed the update. The old address worked, then the new one, then the old one, now the new one again. In DA's automatic retreive file function I have created duplicate addresses. Just got this morning's data, and the old address isn't working, but the new one is. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:56:38 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It's a bit more than just the delegation of the new IP address across nameservers. The site is set up at both old and new IP addresses, so it shouldn't matter which address your nameserver points you to. The new IP address has already been delegated (I initiated it about 60 hours ago). The problem is that the new computer servers are not accepting web traffic, so if you go to http://www.australianweathernews.com at present, you get an error message. The old IP address (http://66.186.211.80/) is working again this morning, but it was down late last night. I'm interested to hear your experience, Peter, but right now I don't know what's going on as I can't access my hosts helpdesks, either by phone or web. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Peter > Creswick > Sent: Thursday, 16 January, 2003 21:25 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air > > > It bit of a pain, but we have to live with it I suppose whilst all the > DNS servers update their databases. > In my ISP's case, it seems to have reversed the update. The old address > worked, then the new one, then the old one, now the new one again. > In DA's automatic retreive file function I have created duplicate > addresses. > Just got this morning's data, and the old address isn't working, but > the new one is. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:21:36 +1100 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Laurier, just did the 22z data and came up with this. As at 10:14 am Using Netscape: http://www.australianweathernews.com/ gives an error still on my ISP (ihug.com.au ). http://66.186.211.80/ works fine. As far as DA is concerned: None of these work: http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/met/ at Y at M at D at H.MET http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/syn/ at Y at M at D at H.SYN http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/shp/ at M at D.SHP http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/boy/ at M at D.BOY http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/upr/ at M at D.UPR But these do: (using 03 01 16 22z) http://66.186.211.80/digatm/met/ at Y at M at D at H.MET http://66.186.211.80/digatm/syn/ at Y at M at D at H.SYN http://66.186.211.80/digatm/shp/ at M at D.SHP http://66.186.211.80/digatm/boy/ at M at D.BOY http://66.186.211.80/digatm/upr/ at M at D.UPR PC +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:03:12 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Peter. All consistent with the old server working and the new not working. I'm tempted to redelegate to the old server, but Murphy's Law says that if I do, the new one will come up! Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Peter > Creswick > Sent: Thursday, 16 January, 2003 23:22 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air > > > Laurier, just did the 22z data and came up with this. > > As at 10:14 am > > Using Netscape: > http://www.australianweathernews.com/ gives an error still on my ISP > (ihug.com.au ). > http://66.186.211.80/ works fine. > > As far as DA is concerned: > None of these work: > http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/met/ at Y at M at D at H.MET > http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/syn/ at Y at M at D at H.SYN > http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/shp/ at M at D.SHP > http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/boy/ at M at D.BOY > http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/upr/ at M at D.UPR > > But these do: (using 03 01 16 22z) > http://66.186.211.80/digatm/met/ at Y at M at D at H.MET > http://66.186.211.80/digatm/syn/ at Y at M at D at H.SYN > http://66.186.211.80/digatm/shp/ at M at D.SHP > http://66.186.211.80/digatm/boy/ at M at D.BOY > http://66.186.211.80/digatm/upr/ at M at D.UPR > > PC > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:31:42 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: aus-wx: SWW dark photo. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi. I looked on my site this morning and the bushfire smoke pic`s is very dark..I just like to know is it just my or is it my computer.??? http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweath er.html Cheers.Weathernut ------------------------------- Weathernut. Wagga Wagga NSW Web site. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html ------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:37:50 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: SWW dark photo. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It just fix it self gggrrrrrrr. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: aus-wx: Re Cyclone Ami is there any damage in REWA, Fiji Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:15:32 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Everyone,
 
I know that this is slightly off topic for Aussie weather, but can anyone tell me what has and is happening at REWA in Fiji.  Supposedly there were to be evacuations due to flooding of the river, but no more information has come forth.
 
Friends of ours would greatly appreciate any information that you can give because they have family in the area.
 
Judy Mayo.
 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:48:33 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re Cyclone Ami is there any damage in REWA, Fiji X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The latest the ABC has is here: http://www.abc.gov.au/news/2003/01/item20030117111048_1.htm Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Adam Mayo" To: Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:15:32 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Re Cyclone Ami is there any damage in REWA, Fiji > Hi Everyone, > > I know that this is slightly off topic for Aussie weather, but can > anyone tell me what has and is happening at REWA in Fiji. Supposedly > there were to be evacuations due to flooding of the river, but no more > information has come forth. > > Friends of ours would greatly appreciate any information that you can > give because they have family in the area. > > Judy Mayo. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:30:08 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a warm front has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front currently crossing that State. Any comments? Patrick +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:53:10 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and dp's remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts upto 60kms/hr at times. Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... Some pictures from Sunset today are here. http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg And the pics from the 8th are still up. http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) from http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been decent ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be found here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? > Hi all, > > Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a warm front > has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front currently > crossing that State. > > Any comments? > > Patrick > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.206.150] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re Cyclone Ami is there any damage in REWA, Fiji Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:54:37 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 10:54:37.0990 (UTC) FILETIME=[D448E460:01C2BE16] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Judy,I do not know where that location is but the Cyclone crossed the eastern most main island group according to JTCWC graphics. News reports speak of some loss of life due storm surges and extensive damage. Sorry I can not be more detailed. Gavin Southside Weather Watch Canberra >From: "Adam Mayo" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: Re Cyclone Ami is there any damage in REWA, Fiji >Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:15:32 +1100 > >Hi Everyone, > >I know that this is slightly off topic for Aussie weather, but can anyone >tell me what has and is happening at REWA in Fiji. Supposedly there were >to be evacuations due to flooding of the river, but no more information has >come forth. > >Friends of ours would greatly appreciate any information that you can give >because they have family in the area. > >Judy Mayo. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: meso at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:16:30 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Mal Ninnes Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also from fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of the ACT. At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote: >Hi All. >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and dp's >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts upto >60kms/hr at times. > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here. >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg > >And the pics from the 8th are still up. >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) from >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been decent >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be found >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ > >Cheers >--------------------------------- >Simon Angell >Canberra, ACT >www.canberra-wx.com >--------------------------------------------- >Proud member of the >Australian Severe Weather Association. >www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------------------------------------- >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Patrick Tobin" >To: >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? > > >> Hi all, >> >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a warm >front >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front currently >> crossing that State. >> >> Any comments? >> >> Patrick >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> >> > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:56:08 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella, Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the fires from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was from 2 days ago though. http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mal Ninnes" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also from > fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of the ACT. > > > > At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote: > >Hi All. > >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and dp's > >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts upto > >60kms/hr at times. > > > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... > > > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here. > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ > > > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg > > > >And the pics from the 8th are still up. > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ > > > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) from > >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been decent > >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be found > >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ > > > >Cheers > >--------------------------------- > >Simon Angell > >Canberra, ACT > >www.canberra-wx.com > >--------------------------------------------- > >Proud member of the > >Australian Severe Weather Association. > >www.severeweather.asn.au > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Patrick Tobin" > >To: > >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM > >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? > > > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a warm > >front > >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front currently > >> crossing that State. > >> > >> Any comments? > >> > >> Patrick > >> > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >> message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: aus-wx: Vic Alpine Fires (Hotham, Falls and Dinner Plain) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 00:27:49 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all . . . sorry have been a bit busy today as you can imagine. Current fire situation at hotham is still serious but looks slightly better. I was supposed to leave for Hotham at 5pm today, but they closed the roads and are not allowing anyone (including property owners) up the mountain. SO I'm stuck in Melbourne with fingers crossed. I have started an information web-page (for the Hotham fires) at http://www.trapdoor.com.au Which includes links to many of the relevant sites on the web, and some photos. Just click on the "Important Information" link at the top of the page. Dinner Plain is now also of concern to the fire fighters. Some spot fires have started at Falls Creek as well. I'll try and keep you informed, but I'll be posting regular updates on the page above, as I get the information. Cheers James James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon Angell Sent: Friday, 17 January 2003 11:56 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella, Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the fires from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was from 2 days ago though. http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mal Ninnes" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also from > fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of the ACT. > > > > At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote: > >Hi All. > >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and dp's > >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts upto > >60kms/hr at times. > > > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... > > > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here. > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ > > > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg > > > >And the pics from the 8th are still up. > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ > > > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) from > >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been decent > >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be found > >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ > > > >Cheers > >--------------------------------- > >Simon Angell > >Canberra, ACT > >www.canberra-wx.com > >--------------------------------------------- > >Proud member of the > >Australian Severe Weather Association. > >ww