http://australiasevereweather.com/ From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: aussie-weather-digest V1 #1412 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 01:11:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You are so right !Its very boreing in Canberra Gavin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Tichborne" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:02 PM Subject: aus-wx: Re: aussie-weather-digest V1 #1412 > > Must have been snowing on Mt hutt today, surely. > > Cheers > > Steven Williams > > Auckland > > TV1 weather mentioned snow being down to about 800 metres on Mt Hutt and > around Queenstown, and I saw the alps this afternoon with a fresh coating > (somewhat more than a light dusting) this afternoon. Could be a little more > later this week and weekend with a strong disturbed west to southwest flow > likely over NZ; this might also bring gales to the southern coasts - watch > out Dunedin. All thanks to a high which will probably be stationary over > southeast Oz. (there'll probably be complaints about how boring the weather > is over there soon) > > Ben > Christchurch > NZ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: E-mailing the weather Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 01:33:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2002 15:34:20.0016 (UTC) FILETIME=[7EEC5700:01C1F05C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi les, I use the weather.com ( www.weather.com )email service that emails 2 daily 5 day forecast for me (except weekends)... It is pretty accurate in Weather conditions but temps are slightly out some times, but that is to be expected with a us based forecaster, it has the forecast for the today and the next 4 days in the Celcius form, then a small description of what to expect however this bit comes in the US temp form and not the Metric standard Cheers --------------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------- This Email is virus free. Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. Virus definition file 27-04-2002. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Muir" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:53 PM Subject: aus-wx: E-mailing the weather > Does anyone know a website or server or something of that nature that > e-mails you the weather in the morning or the day before? > Thanks in Advance > > Les > (Dilbert) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Forecaster's Perspective - storm report 12/4/2002 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 01:27:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2002 15:27:43.0490 (UTC) FILETIME=[92934620:01C1F05B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I agree matt, fantastic read... More Svr-Wx BoM people shoud do this kind of thing... Cheers --------------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------- This Email is virus free. Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. Virus definition file 27-04-2002. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Forecaster's Perspective - storm report 12/4/2002 > > Nice stuff Jane! Thanks for putting it up on MSC. Tell Kevin that all of us on > aussie-weather appreciate it, and would love to read more in the future :) > > Matt Smith > sydneystormchasers.com > > Jane ONeill wrote: > > > Evening all, > > > > Kevin Parkyn from BoM Severe Weather in Melbourne has put together the > > following analysis & report on the severe multicell in the SW district > > of Victoria on the 12th April. This is a unique look at a forecaster's > > perspective of a severe weather event. > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/12_04_02kp.htm > > > > Enjoy!! > > > > Jane > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > ASWA - Victoria > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: F5 Tornado rakes Maryland Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 01:57:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2002 15:59:06.0195 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4C14230:01C1F05F] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanx pauly for going to the trouble of getting these links....its now cost me an hour that i could have been doing some work on my website, lol.:P Cheers --------------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------- This Email is virus free. Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. Virus definition file 27-04-2002. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Yole" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:23 PM Subject: aus-wx: F5 Tornado rakes Maryland > Hey All, > > Well, I guess Matt dobbed me in on this one...LOL. But doing some research, and I've found the following links regarding this > amazing outbreak. > > The NWS posted this on their IWIN website: > http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/md/public.html > > PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT > NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE/WASHINGTON > 415 PM EDT MON APR 29 2002 > > ...CHARLES COUNTY TORNADO NOW RATED AN F-5 ON THE FUJITA SCALE... > > ...LA PLATA TORNADO BECOMES THE STRONGEST TORNADO EVER RECORDED > IN MARYLAND... > > A STORM SURVEY TEAM FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IS CURRENTLY > SURVEYING TORNADO DAMAGE IN CHARLES COUNTY. > > SURVEY RESULTS INDICATE THE TORNADO WAS AN F-5 ON THE FUJITA > SCALE. WIND SPEEDS IN THIS TORNADO HAVE BEEN ESTIMATED TO BE > GREATER THAN 260 MPH. THIS IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT AT LEAST 6 > HOMES WERE COMPLETELY WIPED OFF THEIR FOUNDATION IN CHARLES COUNTY > WITH 3 OF THESE HOMES JUST EAST OF LA PLATA. > > THIS IS THE STRONGEST TORNADO EVER RECORDED IN MARYLAND. > > THE TORNADO PATH LENGTH WAS 24 MILES IN CHARLES COUNTY AND AT LEAST > 6 MILES INTO CALVERT COUNTY. THE TORNADO WIDTH WAS 400 YARDS. THE > TORNADO TOUCHED TOWN BETWEEN RISEN AND MARBURY AS AN F-2 THEN > STRENGTHENED TO AN F-4 AS IT WENT THROUGH LA PLATA. THE TORNADO > THEN STRENGTHENED TO AN F-5 ON THE EAST SIDE OF LA PLATA. THE > TORNADO WAS AT LEAST F-4 STRENGTH AS IT MOVED TO BENEDICT IN CHARLES > COUNTY. THE TORNADO THEN TRACKED INTO CALVERT COUNTY. > > THERE ARE 3 CONFIRMED DEATHS AND OVER 90 INJURIES. > > Other sites with information and stuff are the following: > > WUSA (Washington DC) News' report (A beautiful pic of the tornado under the RFB and some amazing damage pics)) > http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_article.asp?storyid=5935 > > WUSA also has a report by Howard Bernstein and how it reminded him of the College Park tornado of 7 months ago > http://www.wusatv9.com/weather/weather_article.asp?storyid=5952 > > CNN's report (Has some video, but CNN now want you to subscribe to watch it :o( ) > http://www.cnn.com/2002/WEATHER/04/29/storm.deaths/index.html > > USA Today's report (With video) > http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2002/2002-04-29-mdf5tornado.htm > > LA Times report > http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-000030686apr30.story?coll= la%2Dheadlines%2Dnation > > Images of the tornados (Check out the "Twins"!!!!!) > http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/lwx/publicpix/ > > The NewsOK.Com report (Oklahoma) > http://newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=854707&pic=none&TP=getarticle > > NOAA's report on this event. Has some amazing damage pics (Not from the F5, but I think an F2 in KY), as well as an amazing sat > animation in either avi or mpg format (Look at the cell develop 2 states away!!!!!) > http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories/s896.htm > > PaulY > > Paul Yole > Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA > Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA > Cell Phone#: (040) 081-9519 > http://www.lexicon.net/yolestorm/ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dave Ellem" To: Subject: aus-wx: Offtopic: Mass Histeria!! Need Music From Singing In The Rain!!!!! Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 19:20:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone! Sorry for the offtopic post, but I have an assessment task in 2 days on acid rain (I have to do a speech). I thought it would be a great into to the speech if I had the music from singing in the rain playing in the background whilst I come in with a raincoat on and the music suddenly coming to a halt once I mentioned acid rain!! Problem is that I can't find anyone that has the CD!!!! I've tried everywhere!! If anyone has the CD could they convert it to a wav file and send it too me. I probably only need the intro (ie frist 30secs of the song). I am in great need of this right away!!! If anyone could send me the file tonight or tomorrow privately to stormboy2003 at hotmail.com at the latest I would be in debt to them forever =) Thanks again and sorry for the rather offtopic post!! Dave Ellem +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les Crossan" To: "Jane ONeill" , Subject: aus-wx: uk.sci weather thread on 'Mini-Tornados' Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:14:35 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
If you can get it everyone check out the "mini-tornados" thread on news:///uk.sci.weather . Use Google Groups http://www.google.co.uk/grphp?hl=en if you don't have it on your ISP you can view but you cannot post.
 
Jane - Isn't Harold Brooks a member of ASWA Vic / Int? If not, why not ??? (:
 
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From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 04:54:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2002 18:54:36.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[79626D80:01C1F078] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Having a look at SPC again this morning, AGAIN 4.5inch hail was reported on th 29-4-02 this time
 
TIME | SIZE | LOCATION                 | COUNTY  | STATE |  LAT  | LONG | COMMENTS
0133    275   5 W WEATHERFORD   PARKER    TX       3276   9789    REPORTED BY
                                                                                                        STORM SPOTTER. 
                                                                                                        (FTW)
 
0134   300    5 S BRIDGEPORT          WISE       TX       3313   9776    REPORTED BY
                                                                                                       STORM SPOTTER.    
                                                                                                       (FTW)
 
0153   450        DECATUR                 WISE        TX      3323    9760   REPORTED BY HAM
                                                                                                       RADIO OPERATOR.
                                                                                                       (FTW)
 

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:27 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake

> Hi Tom and John,
>
>  From the type of storms they have over there I do not doubt the existence
> of sigificant giant hailstones (4 inch hail) occurring several times each
> season particularly during the violent outbreak. I a not doubting though
> that there could be at least some slight exaggeration in recording simply
> by the rounding off of hailsize to the nearest 0.5 inch. But let's say
> there was significant hail sizes reported and therefore they do exist and
> they are not so uncommon. My belief is that since supercells are more
> common in the US due to the higher frequencies of wind shear and high cape
> conditions, then significant hail should occur more regularly.
>
> Of course, any particular area being hit by the hail swathe is a much
> smaller probability but if we go by counties, then probabilities increase.
> I also do not doubt that such giant hail events do occur in particular
> areas of Australia - some are more prone than others. The area SW of Camden
> near Oakdale receives severe hail at a higher frequency than other
> surrounding areas such as Sydney. SW and Central parts of Sydney also seems
> to have had more of the frequent hail events than say the region I live and
> surrounds. It is extremely rare for supercell type of events to affect my
> area but the region in SW and Central Sydney is more prone to such events
> in my view based on the proximity to topographic effects such as the region
> near Oakdale and just to the west.
>
> On a similar note and getting back to the US, I was quite interested in
> reading notes on (I think) Al Moller's web site about storm chasers'
> beliefs that the panhandle region has a higher density of tornadoes than
> the statistical analyses suggest (Oklahoma City as the epicentre). Well the
> tornado we got last year is officially recorded as F3 based on damage to
> one building and 2 cars picked up and thrown across the 4 lane highway (the
> one we were travelling on). I do believe the tornado was stronger than this
> simply by the shear size, structure and significant rotation of the collar
> cloud. So this is only one suspect example of many in a relatively sparsely
> populated area of the US.
>
> Interesting discussion.
>
> At 11:33 AM 30/4/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hi Tom.
> >
> >That I believe may be the case, and I had serious doubts about a report of
> >4.5" hail in Denver county Colorado, which caused $0 damage.  Denver county
> >is very small, just 150 odd sq kms and almost entirely built up, so you
> >would expect hail that size to do significant damage, as per the famous
> >Sydney hailstorm.
> >
> >But Jimmy provided this excellent link,
> >http://www.chaseday.com/hailstones.htm which shows some nice photos of 2.5"
> >and genuine 3" hail, judged by using a ruler on my hand as compared to the
> >photos.  But there is no claim in this article made about the size of
> >specific hailstones shown in the pics, so it is hard to say if there is any
> >exaggeration or not.
> >
> >I have witnessed hail of this size in SEQ on several occasions (no storm
> >chasing), but would have to say that for any particular location (street)
> >around Brisbane it would be an approx 1 in 25 year event.
> >
> >Regards,
> >John W.
> > >snip
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:
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> >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tom Johnstone
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:15 AM
> >To:
aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> >
> >
> >At 01:50 AM 4/30/2002 +1000, Simon Angell wrote:
> > >I Just had a quick look over SPC and on the 24-4-02 there was 4.5inch hail
> > >reported, thats 11.25cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >Now I'm not saying that those reports are untrue (and they might have been
> >properly verified, I don't know). But in my time in the USA I have noticed
> >a cultural difference between here and Australia. Whereas Aussies tend to
> >understate many things, here in the USA people like to exaggerate  - and
> >they do it a lot. So unless 4.5 inches was verified, I would have some
> >doubts.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Tom
> >
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>
> from
> Schofields, Sydney
> NSW Australia
>
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>
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X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 07:24:00 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: What Weather Station? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Paul, I have not used any other type of electronic weather station, so can't really compare. The price has always put me off those. I find the sensors on the WM-918 quite accurate. I have a BoM rain gauge for my "proper" readings and the weather station always has similar figures. I also have a thermometer in a stevenson screen and again, the weather station temps are similar. It all depends on where you place the sensors - I know my weather station temps are not as accurate when there is no wind (the sensor is not in the screen as it is too far away from my PC), and the anemometer is not giving accurate readings when a southerly is blowing - because there are lots of trees to the south. The station is very good value for $300 or even $400 ! Michael At 07:35 PM 30/4/2002 +0930, you wrote: >Michael, > >I've just got myself a WM-918 today (also for $298) - yet to set it up, >still reading the idiot's.. er.. "User Manual". >How have u found it's preformance? Do u think it's as good as the more >expensive stations? > >& thanks for the link! :)) > >Regs. Paul. >(Stargazer) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Michael Bath" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:54 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: What Weather Station? > > > > It is not worth it. I have seen the software and it is not as good as Andy > > Keir's FreeWx: > > > > http://home.iprimus.com.au/andykeir/freewx.html > > > > I have used this program for a couple of months on my webcam page with the > > DSE WM-918 station (which they had on special leading up to Christmas for >$298) > > > > Michael > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Jones To: "old AUSSIE WX (aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com)" Subject: aus-wx: DSW WM-918 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 08:29:50 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >I have used this program for a couple of months on my webcam page with the >DSE WM-918 station (which they had on special leading up to Christmas for >$298) > >Michael I must admit to having come a tad late into this discussion... thanks to work... but note that the review of this station is not good. See http://www.weatherwatchers.org/wxstation/WX-200/review/ I have, for a while, been thinking about installing a WX station to compliment my manual observations, and was also thinking around the ~$500 mark. Have users of this station found it to be nearly as bad as this review would have one believe? Or are the reviewers merely gear snobs. Regards, David Dr David Jones Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 07:11:51 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: This is true for all of us! (was F5 Tornado rakes Maryland) X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It's not only Paul Y's links, it's everybody's links on this list. They "waste" hours and hours of my time! ... wouldn't have it any other way, though. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 01:57:40 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: F5 Tornado rakes Maryland > Thanx pauly for going to the trouble of getting these links....its now > cost > me an hour that i could have been doing some work on my website, lol.:P > > Cheers > --------------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------- > This Email is virus free. > Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. > Virus definition file 27-04-2002. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ----- Original Message ----- [snip] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 11:28:58 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: DSW WM-918 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi David, Check my post earlier today about the accuracy. I rarely look at the pressure readings so can't comment on those, but rain rates, temp and humidity seem accurate. Cables could be longer but it all seems to work. MB At 08:29 AM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >I have used this program for a couple of months on my webcam page with the > >DSE WM-918 station (which they had on special leading up to Christmas for > >$298) > > > >Michael > >I must admit to having come a tad late into this discussion... thanks to >work... but note that the review of this station is not good. See > >http://www.weatherwatchers.org/wxstation/WX-200/review/ > >I have, for a while, been thinking about installing a WX station to >compliment my manual observations, and was also thinking around the ~$500 >mark. Have users of this station found it to be nearly as bad as this review >would have one believe? Or are the reviewers merely gear snobs. > >Regards, > >David > >Dr David Jones > >Climate Analysis Section >National Climate Centre >Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 >GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 >Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 >email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: DSW WM-918 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:48:50 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 02:50:04.0086 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5127560:01C1F0BA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello David. I like your description of gear snobs!, I have a Davis weather wizard 3 which is basic and you have to add a tipping bucket rain gauge at extra cost, the anemometer is very good and the temp (outside) is reasonably accurate, the rain gauge is a different story which came with instructions on how to calibrate it, which I suspect were wrong, I eventually calibrated the rain gauge myself to get it as close as possible to my manual rain gauge, its working ok now except when the maggie poo blocks up the rain catch, the maggies also peck at the wind cups ( I am now on the second set). A rather good weather station though is the Davis weather monitor 2 although getting a bit expensive when buying it with 'the lot'. regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Jones To: Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 8:29 AM Subject: aus-wx: DSW WM-918 > > >I have used this program for a couple of months on my webcam page with the > >DSE WM-918 station (which they had on special leading up to Christmas for > >$298) > > > >Michael > > I must admit to having come a tad late into this discussion... thanks to > work... but note that the review of this station is not good. See > > http://www.weatherwatchers.org/wxstation/WX-200/review/ > > I have, for a while, been thinking about installing a WX station to > compliment my manual observations, and was also thinking around the ~$500 > mark. Have users of this station found it to be nearly as bad as this review > would have one believe? Or are the reviewers merely gear snobs. > > Regards, > > David > > Dr David Jones > > Climate Analysis Section > National Climate Centre > Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 > GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 > Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 > email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: WA. set up. Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:40:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 02:42:00.0302 (UTC) FILETIME=[C4B6E0E0:01C1F0B9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
We should all move to southwest WA over the next few days, nice cold frontal band with embedded storms moving southeast towards that region, looks like the area south of Perth appears to be favoured for some good falls of rain, plenty of moisture especially in the mid levels. The low to the west has an impressive cold pool associated with it at 500hpa and seems to have reached its farthest northerly location before wrapping around the maturing low today ,there's a slight chance of this cold pool becoming cut off over the next 24 hours especially if a strong ridge develops to the south. regards Clyve H.
X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:24:03 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: Re: aus-wx: WA. set up. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yep, looks great Clyve. Also note that we are very close to breaking the all time May record for the city site today. As of 12:10pm it was 31.9C in the city, the May record is 32.4 which occured on the 2nd May, 1907. Geraldton at 12noon was an amazing 35.2C, their record 36.6 recorded on the 3rd May, 1972. Jacob At 12:40 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > Hi all. > We should all move to southwest WA over the next few days, nice cold frontal > band with embedded storms moving southeast towards that region, looks like > the area south of Perth appears to be favoured for some good falls of rain, > plenty of moisture especially in the mid levels. The low to the west has an > impressive cold pool associated with it at 500hpa and seems to have reached > its farthest northerly location before wrapping around the maturing low today > ,there's a slight chance of this cold pool becoming cut off over the next 24 > hours especially if a strong ridge develops to the south. regards Clyve H. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 13:21:29 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: aus-wx: New Perth Record Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just broke the record, 32.7 at 1:08pm is the max so far for the city site today. Perth Airport 32.9C at 12:59pm, still short of their May record of 33.7C. Still a slight chance of making it. Geraldton back down to 34.8C at 1pm, unlikely to break their record now. Jacob At 12:24 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote: > >Yep, looks great Clyve. > >Also note that we are very close to breaking the all time May record for the >city site today. > >As of 12:10pm it was 31.9C in the city, the May record is 32.4 which occured on >the 2nd May, 1907. > >Geraldton at 12noon was an amazing 35.2C, their record 36.6 recorded on the 3rd >May, 1972. > >Jacob > >At 12:40 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >> >> Hi all. >> We should all move to southwest WA over the next few days, nice cold frontal >> band with embedded storms moving southeast towards that region, looks like >> the area south of Perth appears to be favoured for some good falls of rain, >> plenty of moisture especially in the mid levels. The low to the west has an >> impressive cold pool associated with it at 500hpa and seems to have reached >> its farthest northerly location before wrapping around the maturing low today >> ,there's a slight chance of this cold pool becoming cut off over the next 24 >> hours especially if a strong ridge develops to the south. regards Clyve H. > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 13:43:28 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Perth Record Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com PERTH METRO 01 13:40 34.0 13.5 29 N Just hit 34C, amazing stuff. Perth Airport record is now also broken PERTH AIRPORT 01 13:40 33.9 11.6 25 NNE JANDAKOT AIRPORT 01 13:40 32.4 12.7 30 NNE Jacob At 01:21 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote: > >Just broke the record, 32.7 at 1:08pm is the max so far for the city site >today. > >Perth Airport 32.9C at 12:59pm, still short of their May record of 33.7C. >Still a slight chance of making it. Geraldton back down to 34.8C at 1pm, >unlikely to break their record now. > >Jacob > > >At 12:24 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote: >> >>Yep, looks great Clyve. >> >>Also note that we are very close to breaking the all time May record for the >>city site today. >> >>As of 12:10pm it was 31.9C in the city, the May record is 32.4 which >occured on >>the 2nd May, 1907. >> >>Geraldton at 12noon was an amazing 35.2C, their record 36.6 recorded on >the 3rd >>May, 1972. >> >>Jacob >> >>At 12:40 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >>> >>> Hi all. >>> We should all move to southwest WA over the next few days, nice cold frontal >>> band with embedded storms moving southeast towards that region, looks like >>> the area south of Perth appears to be favoured for some good falls of rain, >>> plenty of moisture especially in the mid levels. The low to the west has an >>> impressive cold pool associated with it at 500hpa and seems to have reached >>> its farthest northerly location before wrapping around the maturing low >today >>> ,there's a slight chance of this cold pool becoming cut off over the next 24 >>> hours especially if a strong ridge develops to the south. regards Clyve H. >> >> >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ashton H Anderson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Perth Record Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:02:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Amazing alright Jacob.......the City site now is Mt Lawley, correct? Does this also beat the previous City site record?
 
Ashton
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From: Jacob
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Perth Record


PERTH METRO  01 13:40  34.0  13.5  29  N 

Just hit 34C, amazing stuff.

Perth Airport record is now also broken

PERTH AIRPORT  01 13:40  33.9  11.6  25  NNE

JANDAKOT AIRPORT  01 13:40  32.4  12.7  30  NNE

Jacob


At 01:21 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote:
>
>Just broke the record, 32.7 at 1:08pm is the max so far for the city site
>today.
>
>Perth Airport 32.9C at 12:59pm, still short of their May record of 33.7C.
>Still a slight chance of making it. Geraldton back down to 34.8C at 1pm,
>unlikely to break their record now.
>
>Jacob
>
>
>At 12:24 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote:
>>
>>Yep, looks great Clyve.
>>
>>Also note that we are very close to breaking the all time May record for the
>>city site today.
>>
>>As of 12:10pm it was 31.9C in the city, the May record is 32.4 which
>occured on
>>the 2nd May, 1907.
>>
>>Geraldton at 12noon was an amazing 35.2C, their record 36.6 recorded on
>the 3rd
>>May, 1972.
>>
>>Jacob
>>
>>At 12:40 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all.
>>> We should all move to southwest WA over the next few days, nice cold
frontal
>>> band with embedded storms moving southeast towards that region, looks like
>>> the area south of Perth appears to be favoured for some good falls of rain,
>>> plenty of moisture especially in the mid levels. The low to the west has an
>>> impressive cold pool associated with it at 500hpa and seems to have reached
>>> its farthest northerly location before wrapping around the maturing low
>today
>>> ,there's a slight chance of this cold pool becoming cut off over the
next 24
>>> hours especially if a strong ridge develops to the south. regards Clyve H.
>>
>>
>>
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X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 14:08:40 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Perth Record Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes it does, as you probably know, the official city site has moved several times in over 100 years of records. So its not directly comparable. The old record of 32.4 was recorded on the 2nd May, 1907. Jacob At 04:02 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > Amazing alright Jacob.......the City site now is Mt Lawley, correct? Does > this also beat the previous City site record? > > Ashton >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jacob >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:43 PM >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Perth Record >> >> >> >> PERTH METRO 01 13:40 34.0 13.5 29 N >> >> Just hit 34C, amazing stuff. >> >> Perth Airport record is now also broken >> >> PERTH AIRPORT 01 13:40 33.9 11.6 25 NNE >> >> JANDAKOT AIRPORT 01 13:40 32.4 12.7 30 NNE >> >> Jacob >> >> >> >> At 01:21 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote: >> > >> >Just broke the record, 32.7 at 1:08pm is the max so far for the city site >> >today. >> > >> >Perth Airport 32.9C at 12:59pm, still short of their May record of 33.7C. >> >Still a slight chance of making it. Geraldton back down to 34.8C at 1pm, >> >unlikely to break their record now. >> > >> >Jacob >> > >> > >> >At 12:24 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote: >> >> >> >>Yep, looks great Clyve. >> >> >> >>Also note that we are very close to breaking the all time May record for >> the >> >>city site today. >> >> >> >>As of 12:10pm it was 31.9C in the city, the May record is 32.4 which >> >occured on >> >>the 2nd May, 1907. >> >> >> >>Geraldton at 12noon was an amazing 35.2C, their record 36.6 recorded on >> >the 3rd >> >>May, 1972. >> >> >> >>Jacob >> >> >> >>At 12:40 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi all. >> >>> We should all move to southwest WA over the next few days, nice cold >> frontal >> >>> band with embedded storms moving southeast towards that region, looks >> like >> >>> the area south of Perth appears to be favoured for some good falls of >> rain, >> >>> plenty of moisture especially in the mid levels. The low to the west has >> an >> >>> impressive cold pool associated with it at 500hpa and seems to have >> reached >> >>> its farthest northerly location before wrapping around the maturing low >> >today >> >>> ,there's a slight chance of this cold pool becoming cut off over the >> next 24 >> >>> hours especially if a strong ridge develops to the south. regards Clyve >> H. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> >> message. >> >> >> ----------------------- >> jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> > >> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> > message. >> > >> ----------------------- >> jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> >> ----------------------- >> jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:27:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 06:28:01.0010 (UTC) FILETIME=[5786B520:01C1F0D9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all
I asked an IRC buddy about the 4.5" hail (he is a US met)..
he said that 4.5" hail does exist and infact studies he has been involved in have shown that larger hail has fallen in parts of AU, China, and India...
 
As for the rounding to the nearest .50 of an inch, i think that it is mainly rounded to the nearest 0.25 of an inch with exception of smailler reports which have 0.88 size.
 
We also have to remember that all they need is 1 stone of 4.5" to report it, so Avg size may have been 1 or 2 inches and then there was a 4.5" stone that fell near a spotter....

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Having a look at SPC again this morning, AGAIN 4.5inch hail was reported on th 29-4-02 this time
 
TIME | SIZE | LOCATION                 | COUNTY  | STATE |  LAT  | LONG | COMMENTS
0133    275   5 W WEATHERFORD   PARKER    TX       3276   9789    REPORTED BY
                                                                                                        STORM SPOTTER. 
                                                                                                        (FTW)
 
0134   300    5 S BRIDGEPORT          WISE       TX       3313   9776    REPORTED BY
                                                                                                       STORM SPOTTER.    
                                                                                                       (FTW)
 
0153   450        DECATUR                 WISE        TX      3323    9760   REPORTED BY HAM
                                                                                                       RADIO OPERATOR.
                                                                                                       (FTW)
 

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:27 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake

> Hi Tom and John,
>
>  From the type of storms they have over there I do not doubt the existence
> of sigificant giant hailstones (4 inch hail) occurring several times each
> season particularly during the violent outbreak. I a not doubting though
> that there could be at least some slight exaggeration in recording simply
> by the rounding off of hailsize to the nearest 0.5 inch. But let's say
> there was significant hail sizes reported and therefore they do exist and
> they are not so uncommon. My belief is that since supercells are more
> common in the US due to the higher frequencies of wind shear and high cape
> conditions, then significant hail should occur more regularly.
>
> Of course, any particular area being hit by the hail swathe is a much
> smaller probability but if we go by counties, then probabilities increase.
> I also do not doubt that such giant hail events do occur in particular
> areas of Australia - some are more prone than others. The area SW of Camden
> near Oakdale receives severe hail at a higher frequency than other
> surrounding areas such as Sydney. SW and Central parts of Sydney also seems
> to have had more of the frequent hail events than say the region I live and
> surrounds. It is extremely rare for supercell type of events to affect my
> area but the region in SW and Central Sydney is more prone to such events
> in my view based on the proximity to topographic effects such as the region
> near Oakdale and just to the west.
>
> On a similar note and getting back to the US, I was quite interested in
> reading notes on (I think) Al Moller's web site about storm chasers'
> beliefs that the panhandle region has a higher density of tornadoes than
> the statistical analyses suggest (Oklahoma City as the epicentre). Well the
> tornado we got last year is officially recorded as F3 based on damage to
> one building and 2 cars picked up and thrown across the 4 lane highway (the
> one we were travelling on). I do believe the tornado was stronger than this
> simply by the shear size, structure and significant rotation of the collar
> cloud. So this is only one suspect example of many in a relatively sparsely
> populated area of the US.
>
> Interesting discussion.
>
> At 11:33 AM 30/4/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hi Tom.
> >
> >That I believe may be the case, and I had serious doubts about a report of
> >4.5" hail in Denver county Colorado, which caused $0 damage.  Denver county
> >is very small, just 150 odd sq kms and almost entirely built up, so you
> >would expect hail that size to do significant damage, as per the famous
> >Sydney hailstorm.
> >
> >But Jimmy provided this excellent link,
> >http://www.chaseday.com/hailstones.htm which shows some nice photos of 2.5"
> >and genuine 3" hail, judged by using a ruler on my hand as compared to the
> >photos.  But there is no claim in this article made about the size of
> >specific hailstones shown in the pics, so it is hard to say if there is any
> >exaggeration or not.
> >
> >I have witnessed hail of this size in SEQ on several occasions (no storm
> >chasing), but would have to say that for any particular location (street)
> >around Brisbane it would be an approx 1 in 25 year event.
> >
> >Regards,
> >John W.
> > >snip
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:
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> >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tom Johnstone
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:15 AM
> >To:
aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> >
> >
> >At 01:50 AM 4/30/2002 +1000, Simon Angell wrote:
> > >I Just had a quick look over SPC and on the 24-4-02 there was 4.5inch hail
> > >reported, thats 11.25cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >Now I'm not saying that those reports are untrue (and they might have been
> >properly verified, I don't know). But in my time in the USA I have noticed
> >a cultural difference between here and Australia. Whereas Aussies tend to
> >understate many things, here in the USA people like to exaggerate  - and
> >they do it a lot. So unless 4.5 inches was verified, I would have some
> >doubts.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Tom
> >
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From: michael_wright at optusnet.com.au To: Subject: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 18:12:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Good evening all hows life treating you.
from what i had heard on the radio 4kq showers intill friday and increasing to rain intill sunday. from sunday.
From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: What Weather Station? Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 18:21:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Completely different. http://home.iprimus.com.au/andykeir/freewx.html ___________________________________ Glen O'Riley goriley at tsn.cc www.mypage.tsn.cc/oriley * Computer Repairs * Computer Sales * Computer Upgrades * Computer Networking * Computer Training * Web Page Construction * TV Antenna Installation * Livestock Work -------- Storm Chaser Firefighter SES Volunteer ACREM CB Radio Monitor Rail Fan _________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stargazer" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:20 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: What Weather Station? > Glen, > Do u run the weather view (basic) software that comes with it, or have u got > the other weather view software that DSE is asking $90.00 for & if so is it > worth it? > > Or r u running completely different software?? > > Regs. Paul. > (Stargazer) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glen O'Riley" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:26 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: What Weather Station? > > > > That is the one. Apparently they only have about 5 left in NSW. > > ___________________________________ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 18:32:55 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 04:27 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hi all >I asked an IRC buddy about the 4.5" hail (he is a US met).. >he said that 4.5" hail does exist and infact studies he has been involved >in have shown that larger hail has fallen in parts of AU, China, and India... Could you refine your comment here. I am not sure whether you are suggesting if "larger" hail has fallen in AU China and India or you are referring generally to sunstantial giant hail events in these countries. I suspect the latter. By the way, we call these exceptionaly giant tile smashign hail as "gorilla hail". I love it:))))) > >As for the rounding to the nearest .50 of an inch, i think that it is >mainly rounded to the nearest 0.25 of an inch with exception of smailler >reports which have 0.88 size. > >We also have to remember that all they need is 1 stone of 4.5" to report >it, so Avg size may have been 1 or 2 inches and then there was a 4.5" >stone that fell near a spotter.... Thanks for the verification from your IRC buddy. As I said, I don't doubt any of these readings in particular based on the arguments in my previous e-mails. I do of course know there can be some exaggeration. Though I think most events that are able to produce the giant hail event would not usually do it in an isolated manner - well not from my observations over the years. However, structurally, HP supercells in particular begin with the "relatively" smaller hail (usually more isolated) but then become larger as the main core passes over in their mature stage and falling more in torrents. I suspect LP supercells tend to drop less hail but can dump some giant stuff. I am not sure if there is such an organised structure. Classic supercells (or should I say supercells in their classic stage) are not renowned for the largest giant hail events but I would not take any risks. I am wondering (suspect) if "extremely" high windshear situations which are more aligned to the classic tornadic supercells are less likely to produce the extreme giant hail events. Getting back to the original purpose of the post, I again do not doubt the extent of the giant hail reported in the US since they are posting warnings of hail to 2", 3" and 4" and like I said I have seen 5" warning. Usually somewhere, spotters verify something of such a nature as Simon has pointed out just in recent examples. This has been an interesting thread. Jimmy Deguara >Cheers >--------------------------------------- >Simon Angell >Canberra, ACT >www.canberra-wx.com >--------------------------------------- >This Email is virus free. >Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. >Virus definition file 27-04-2002. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >----- Original Message ----- >From: Simon Angell >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:54 AM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake > >Having a look at SPC again this morning, AGAIN 4.5inch hail was reported on >th 29-4-02 this time > >TIME | SIZE | LOCATION | COUNTY | STATE | LAT | LONG | >COMMENTS >0133 275 5 W WEATHERFORD PARKER TX 3276 9789 REPORTED >BY > >STORM SPOTTER. > >(FTW) > >0134 300 5 S >BRIDGEPORT WISE TX 3313 9776 REPORTED BY > >STORM SPOTTER. > >(FTW) > >0153 450 DECATUR WISE TX 3323 9760 > REPORTED BY HAM > >RADIO OPERATOR. > >(FTW) > >Hail Sizes in 1/100 of an Inch (75 = 0.75") >Source --> >http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html >OR > http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/020429_prt_rpts.html > >Cheers >--------------------------------------- >Simon Angell >Canberra, ACT >www.canberra-wx.com >--------------------------------------- >This Email is virus free. >Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. >Virus definition file 27-04-2002. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at ihug.com.au> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com> >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:27 PM >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake > > Hi Tom and John, > > > > From the type of storms they have over there I do not doubt the existence > > of sigificant giant hailstones (4 inch hail) occurring several times each > > season particularly during the violent outbreak. I a not doubting though > > that there could be at least some slight exaggeration in recording simply > > by the rounding off of hailsize to the nearest 0.5 inch. But let's say > > there was significant hail sizes reported and therefore they do exist and > > they are not so uncommon. My belief is that since supercells are more > > common in the US due to the higher frequencies of wind shear and high cape > > conditions, then significant hail should occur more regularly. > > > > Of course, any particular area being hit by the hail swathe is a much > > smaller probability but if we go by counties, then probabilities increase. > > I also do not doubt that such giant hail events do occur in particular > > areas of Australia - some are more prone than others. The area SW of > Camden > > near Oakdale receives severe hail at a higher frequency than other > > surrounding areas such as Sydney. SW and Central parts of Sydney also > seems > > to have had more of the frequent hail events than say the region I live > and > > surrounds. It is extremely rare for supercell type of events to affect my > > area but the region in SW and Central Sydney is more prone to such events > > in my view based on the proximity to topographic effects such as the > region > > near Oakdale and just to the west. > > > > On a similar note and getting back to the US, I was quite interested in > > reading notes on (I think) Al Moller's web site about storm chasers' > > beliefs that the panhandle region has a higher density of tornadoes than > > the statistical analyses suggest (Oklahoma City as the epicentre). Well > the > > tornado we got last year is officially recorded as F3 based on damage to > > one building and 2 cars picked up and thrown across the 4 lane highway > (the > > one we were travelling on). I do believe the tornado was stronger than > this > > simply by the shear size, structure and significant rotation of the collar > > cloud. So this is only one suspect example of many in a relatively > sparsely > > populated area of the US. > > > > Interesting discussion. > > > > At 11:33 AM 30/4/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >Hi Tom. > > > > > >That I believe may be the case, and I had serious doubts about a > report of > > >4.5" hail in Denver county Colorado, which caused $0 damage. Denver > county > > >is very small, just 150 odd sq kms and almost entirely built up, so you > > >would expect hail that size to do significant damage, as per the famous > > >Sydney hailstorm. > > > > > >But Jimmy provided this excellent link, > > >http://www.chaseday.com/hailstones.htm which shows some nice photos of > 2.5" > > >and genuine 3" hail, judged by using a ruler on my hand as compared to > the > > >photos. But there is no claim in this article made about the size of > > >specific hailstones shown in the pics, so it is hard to say if there > is any > > >exaggeration or not. > > > > > >I have witnessed hail of this size in SEQ on several occasions (no storm > > >chasing), but would have to say that for any particular location (street) > > >around Brisbane it would be an approx 1 in 25 year event. > > > > > >Regards, > > >John W. > > > >snip > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: > aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tom Johnstone > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:15 AM > > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake > > > > > > > > >At 01:50 AM 4/30/2002 +1000, Simon Angell wrote: > > > >I Just had a quick look over SPC and on the 24-4-02 there was > 4.5inch hail > > > >reported, thats 11.25cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > >Now I'm not saying that those reports are untrue (and they might have > been > > >properly verified, I don't know). But in my time in the USA I have > noticed > > >a cultural difference between here and Australia. Whereas Aussies tend to > > >understate many things, here in the USA people like to exaggerate - and > > >they do it a lot. So unless 4.5 inches was verified, I would have some > > >doubts. > > > > > >Cheers, > > >Tom > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 18:36:36 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:12 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Good evening all hows life treating you. >from what i had heard on the radio 4kq showers intill friday and >increasing to rain intill sunday. from sunday. Well, in Melbourne, looks like that high is going to remain parked here for another week. We'll have to issue a few parking tickets! :) I recall some lingering highs, but this one takes the cake - expected to hang around for at least another week!!! The problem is the inversions it brings (great for VHF/UHF radio) are also trapping smog. I'll be glad to get a couple of days up in Sydney from tomorrow. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 19:04:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Interesting too that such blocking highs are more usual over NZ especially in summer or spring..does this mean we can expect one in June over Bass Strait with an east coast low...? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:36 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain > At 06:12 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >Good evening all hows life treating you. > >from what i had heard on the radio 4kq showers intill friday and > >increasing to rain intill sunday. from sunday. > > Well, in Melbourne, looks like that high is going to remain parked here for > another week. We'll have to issue a few parking tickets! :) > > I recall some lingering highs, but this one takes the cake - expected to > hang around for at least another week!!! > > The problem is the inversions it brings (great for VHF/UHF radio) are also > trapping smog. I'll be glad to get a couple of days up in Sydney from > tomorrow. :) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Duncan & Mandy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Perth Record Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 18:22:22 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Even warmer than here in Alice Springs! The April average max. temp would've been broken for most of Central Australia - not much good when we spent a week floating (frying) in Dalhousie Hot Springs last week! We expected much cooler temps.! The front off the sw coast looks good for some action - hopefully it makes Adelaide. Here in Alice - fine days until October. More interest in observing other locations. Cheers, Duncan Treloar Alice Springs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob" To: Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2002 3:38 pm Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Perth Record > > Yes it does, as you probably know, the official city site has moved several > times in over 100 years of records. So its not directly comparable. The old > record of 32.4 was recorded on the 2nd May, 1907. > > Jacob > > > At 04:02 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > > > Amazing alright Jacob.......the City site now is Mt Lawley, correct? Does > > this also beat the previous City site record? > > > > Ashton > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Jacob > >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:43 PM > >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Perth Record > >> > >> > >> > >> PERTH METRO 01 13:40 34.0 13.5 29 N > >> > >> Just hit 34C, amazing stuff. > >> > >> Perth Airport record is now also broken > >> > >> PERTH AIRPORT 01 13:40 33.9 11.6 25 NNE > >> > >> JANDAKOT AIRPORT 01 13:40 32.4 12.7 30 NNE > >> > >> Jacob > >> > >> > >> > >> At 01:21 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote: > >> > > >> >Just broke the record, 32.7 at 1:08pm is the max so far for the city site > >> >today. > >> > > >> >Perth Airport 32.9C at 12:59pm, still short of their May record of 33.7C. > >> >Still a slight chance of making it. Geraldton back down to 34.8C at 1pm, > >> >unlikely to break their record now. > >> > > >> >Jacob > >> > > >> > > >> >At 12:24 PM 1/05/2002 +0800, you wrote: > >> >> > >> >>Yep, looks great Clyve. > >> >> > >> >>Also note that we are very close to breaking the all time May record for > >> the > >> >>city site today. > >> >> > >> >>As of 12:10pm it was 31.9C in the city, the May record is 32.4 which > >> >occured on > >> >>the 2nd May, 1907. > >> >> > >> >>Geraldton at 12noon was an amazing 35.2C, their record 36.6 recorded on > >> >the 3rd > >> >>May, 1972. > >> >> > >> >>Jacob > >> >> > >> >>At 12:40 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi all. > >> >>> We should all move to southwest WA over the next few days, nice cold > >> frontal > >> >>> band with embedded storms moving southeast towards that region, looks > >> like > >> >>> the area south of Perth appears to be favoured for some good falls of > >> rain, > >> >>> plenty of moisture especially in the mid levels. The low to the west has > >> an > >> >>> impressive cold pool associated with it at 500hpa and seems to have > >> reached > >> >>> its farthest northerly location before wrapping around the maturing low > >> >today > >> >>> ,there's a slight chance of this cold pool becoming cut off over the > >> next 24 > >> >>> hours especially if a strong ridge develops to the south. regards Clyve > >> H. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >> >> message. > >> >> > >> ----------------------- > >> jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >> > > >> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >> > message. > >> > > >> ----------------------- > >> jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >> > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >> message. > >> > >> ----------------------- > >> jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:21:32 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:04 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Interesting too that such blocking highs are more usual over NZ especially >in summer or spring..does this mean we can expect one in June over Bass >Strait with an east coast low...? Well, who knows? :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 19:13:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 09:13:49.0658 (UTC) FILETIME=[8161EBA0:01C1F0F0] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
His Actual Comment...
[16:11:16] <StormSGF> yes, 4.5" hail does exist
[16:11:46] <StormSGF> infact, I'm surprised you asked that Canberra-Wx because our studies have shown that parts of AU, China, and India have bigger hail then we do
 
I assume he meant that we get bigger hail then they get....
 
Also, i was watching strom warning of the discovery channel a little earlier, and a Met from the US went on a chase and got caught up in a hail storm, from the footage i saw most has was 1 to 2 inches, but the rear window got smashed then seconds later the front got shattered, although it was still in the frame *just*, the Met said it would have been 5" hail that bounced off the bonnet and hit the windscreen.. Toward the end of the story it showed a peice of giant hail in a person hand and said "this 3" hail..." to me however it looked 2" max as  was smaller than the hand it was on!!!!

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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake

> At 04:27 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hi all
> >I asked an IRC buddy about the 4.5" hail (he is a US met)..
> >he said that 4.5" hail does exist and infact studies he has been involved
> >in have shown that larger hail has fallen in parts of AU, China, and India...
>
> Could you refine your comment here. I am not sure whether you are
> suggesting if "larger" hail has fallen in AU China and India or you are
> referring generally to sunstantial giant hail events in these countries. I
> suspect the latter. By the way, we call these exceptionaly giant tile
> smashign hail as "gorilla hail". I love it:)))))
>
> >
> >As for the rounding to the nearest .50 of an inch, i think that it is
> >mainly rounded to the nearest 0.25 of an inch with exception of smailler
> >reports which have 0.88 size.
> >
> >We also have to remember that all they need is 1 stone of 4.5" to report
> >it, so Avg size may have been 1 or 2 inches and then there was a 4.5"
> >stone that fell near a spotter....
>
> Thanks for the verification from your IRC buddy. As I said, I don't doubt
> any of these readings in particular based on the arguments in my previous
> e-mails. I do of course know there can be some exaggeration.
>
> Though I think most events that are able to produce the giant hail event
> would not usually do it in an isolated manner - well not from my
> observations over the years. However, structurally, HP supercells in
> particular begin with the "relatively" smaller hail (usually more isolated)
> but then become larger as the main core passes over in their mature stage
> and falling more in torrents. I suspect LP supercells tend to drop less
> hail but can dump some giant stuff. I am not sure if there is such an
> organised structure. Classic supercells (or should I say supercells in
> their classic stage) are not renowned for the largest giant hail events but
> I would not take any risks. I am wondering (suspect) if "extremely" high
> windshear situations which are more aligned to the classic tornadic
> supercells are less likely to produce the extreme giant hail events.
>
> Getting back to the original purpose of the post, I again do not doubt the
> extent of the giant hail reported in the US since they are posting warnings
> of hail to 2", 3" and 4" and like I said I have seen 5" warning. Usually
> somewhere, spotters verify something of such a nature as Simon has pointed
> out just in recent examples.
>
> This has been an interesting thread.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
>
> >Cheers
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> >To: <
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> >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:54 AM
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> >
> >Having a look at SPC again this morning, AGAIN 4.5inch hail was reported on
> >th 29-4-02 this time
> >
> >TIME | SIZE | LOCATION                 | COUNTY  | STATE |  LAT  | LONG |
> >COMMENTS
> >0133    275   5 W WEATHERFORD   PARKER    TX       3276   9789    REPORTED
> >BY
> >
> >STORM SPOTTER.
> >
> >(FTW)
> >
> >0134   300    5 S
> >BRIDGEPORT          WISE       TX       3313   9776    REPORTED BY
> >
> >STORM SPOTTER.
> >
> >(FTW)
> >
> >0153   450        DECATUR                 WISE        TX      3323    9760
> >   REPORTED BY HAM
> >
> >RADIO OPERATOR.
> >
> >(FTW)
> >
> >Hail Sizes in 1/100 of an Inch (75 = 0.75")
> >Source -->
> ><
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html>http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html
> >OR
> >                
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/020429_prt_rpts.html
> >
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> >To: <<
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> >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:27 PM
> >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> > > Hi Tom and John,
> > >
> > >  From the type of storms they have over there I do not doubt the existence
> > > of sigificant giant hailstones (4 inch hail) occurring several times each
> > > season particularly during the violent outbreak. I a not doubting though
> > > that there could be at least some slight exaggeration in recording simply
> > > by the rounding off of hailsize to the nearest 0.5 inch. But let's say
> > > there was significant hail sizes reported and therefore they do exist and
> > > they are not so uncommon. My belief is that since supercells are more
> > > common in the US due to the higher frequencies of wind shear and high cape
> > > conditions, then significant hail should occur more regularly.
> > >
> > > Of course, any particular area being hit by the hail swathe is a much
> > > smaller probability but if we go by counties, then probabilities increase.
> > > I also do not doubt that such giant hail events do occur in particular
> > > areas of Australia - some are more prone than others. The area SW of
> > Camden
> > > near Oakdale receives severe hail at a higher frequency than other
> > > surrounding areas such as Sydney. SW and Central parts of Sydney also
> > seems
> > > to have had more of the frequent hail events than say the region I live
> > and
> > > surrounds. It is extremely rare for supercell type of events to affect my
> > > area but the region in SW and Central Sydney is more prone to such events
> > > in my view based on the proximity to topographic effects such as the
> > region
> > > near Oakdale and just to the west.
> > >
> > > On a similar note and getting back to the US, I was quite interested in
> > > reading notes on (I think) Al Moller's web site about storm chasers'
> > > beliefs that the panhandle region has a higher density of tornadoes than
> > > the statistical analyses suggest (Oklahoma City as the epicentre). Well
> > the
> > > tornado we got last year is officially recorded as F3 based on damage to
> > > one building and 2 cars picked up and thrown across the 4 lane highway
> > (the
> > > one we were travelling on). I do believe the tornado was stronger than
> > this
> > > simply by the shear size, structure and significant rotation of the collar
> > > cloud. So this is only one suspect example of many in a relatively
> > sparsely
> > > populated area of the US.
> > >
> > > Interesting discussion.
> > >
> > > At 11:33 AM 30/4/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> > > >Hi Tom.
> > > >
> > > >That I believe may be the case, and I had serious doubts about a
> > report of
> > > >4.5" hail in Denver county Colorado, which caused $0 damage.  Denver
> > county
> > > >is very small, just 150 odd sq kms and almost entirely built up, so you
> > > >would expect hail that size to do significant damage, as per the famous
> > > >Sydney hailstorm.
> > > >
> > > >But Jimmy provided this excellent link,
> > > >http://www.chaseday.com/hailstones.htm which shows some nice photos of
> > 2.5"
> > > >and genuine 3" hail, judged by using a ruler on my hand as compared to
> > the
> > > >photos.  But there is no claim in this article made about the size of
> > > >specific hailstones shown in the pics, so it is hard to say if there
> > is any
> > > >exaggeration or not.
> > > >
> > > >I have witnessed hail of this size in SEQ on several occasions (no storm
> > > >chasing), but would have to say that for any particular location (street)
> > > >around Brisbane it would be an approx 1 in 25 year event.
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >John W.
> > > > >snip
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From:
> > <
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> >
> > > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tom Johnstone
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:15 AM
> > > >To: <
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> > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >At 01:50 AM 4/30/2002 +1000, Simon Angell wrote:
> > > > >I Just had a quick look over SPC and on the 24-4-02 there was
> > 4.5inch hail
> > > > >reported, thats 11.25cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >Now I'm not saying that those reports are untrue (and they might have
> > been
> > > >properly verified, I don't know). But in my time in the USA I have
> > noticed
> > > >a cultural difference between here and Australia. Whereas Aussies tend to
> > > >understate many things, here in the USA people like to exaggerate  - and
> > > >they do it a lot. So unless 4.5 inches was verified, I would have some
> > > >doubts.
> > > >
> > > >Cheers,
> > > >Tom
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From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 21:28:42 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, That high over SE Australia is rudely fowling our weather (NZ). Could you shift a bit further east please. I like autumn sunshine. South of the South island is getting it worst with thunder and hail today and snow down to 700m. Tomorrow, southwest gales and squally showers for Invercargill. Bye Steven W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barnett" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain > Interesting too that such blocking highs are more usual over NZ especially > in summer or spring..does this mean we can expect one in June over Bass > Strait with an east coast low...? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:36 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain > > > > At 06:12 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > > > >Good evening all hows life treating you. > > >from what i had heard on the radio 4kq showers intill friday and > > >increasing to rain intill sunday. from sunday. > > > > Well, in Melbourne, looks like that high is going to remain parked here > for > > another week. We'll have to issue a few parking tickets! :) > > > > I recall some lingering highs, but this one takes the cake - expected to > > hang around for at least another week!!! > > > > The problem is the inversions it brings (great for VHF/UHF radio) are also > > trapping smog. I'll be glad to get a couple of days up in Sydney from > > tomorrow. :) > > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:48:38 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:28 PM 1/05/2002 +1200, you wrote: >Hi, >That high over SE Australia is rudely fowling our weather (NZ). Could you >shift a bit further east please. >I like autumn sunshine. South of the South island is getting it worst with >thunder and hail today and >snow down to 700m. Tomorrow, southwest gales and squally showers for >Invercargill. I'd happily nudge it across if I could, it's trapping smog over here. :-( And I like warm days with a northerly :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:46:09 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Simon,

Ok. So ask this person about the validity of the reports in the database which initially started this thread. I don't doubt that these counties including Australia don't get such giant hail events - after all Casino, Kingslcliff and Sydney are recent examples. I would also add Bangladesh into the equation with heat within the tropics and let's say sufficient windshear being the main reason why such giant hail can exist there. But the warmer temperatures should help in melting some of the hail so perhaps it would occur more in the elevated regions?? I am still in the process of studying the events there. I think David Croan would be in a better position to discuss some of the literature regards severe weather that is associated with the area.

The database link is:

http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/wwcgi.dll?wwevent~storms

There are exceptional giant hail events of 5" and greater. Have these been verified? I think the Sydney hailstorm has now been accepted as having produced the largest hailstones officially in Australia - 11 - 12cm. The 14cm hail report from Kempsey has been discounted because it was not measured.

Thanks.

Jimmy Deguara

At 07:13 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
His Actual Comment...
[16:11:16] <StormSGF> yes, 4.5" hail does exist
[16:11:46] <StormSGF> infact, I'm surprised you asked that Canberra-Wx because our studies have shown that parts of AU, China, and India have bigger hail then we do

 
I assume he meant that we get bigger hail then they get....
 
Also, i was watching strom warning of the discovery channel a little earlier, and a Met from the US went on a chase and got caught up in a hail storm, from the footage i saw most has was 1 to 2 inches, but the rear window got smashed then seconds later the front got shattered, although it was still in the frame *just*, the Met said it would have been 5" hail that bounced off the bonnet and hit the windscreen.. Toward the end of the story it showed a peice of giant hail in a person hand and said "this 3" hail..." to me however it looked 2" max as  was smaller than the hand it was on!!!!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake

> At 04:27 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hi all
> >I asked an IRC buddy about the 4.5" hail (he is a US met)..
> >he said that 4.5" hail does exist and infact studies he has been involved
> >in have shown that larger hail has fallen in parts of AU, China, and India...
>
> Could you refine your comment here. I am not sure whether you are
> suggesting if "larger" hail has fallen in AU China and India or you are
> referring generally to sunstantial giant hail events in these countries. I
> suspect the latter. By the way, we call these exceptionaly giant tile
> smashign hail as "gorilla hail". I love it:)))))
>
> >
> >As for the rounding to the nearest .50 of an inch, i think that it is
> >mainly rounded to the nearest 0.25 of an inch with exception of smailler
> >reports which have 0.88 size.
> >
> >We also have to remember that all they need is 1 stone of 4.5" to report
> >it, so Avg size may have been 1 or 2 inches and then there was a 4.5"
> >stone that fell near a spotter....
>
> Thanks for the verification from your IRC buddy. As I said, I don't doubt
> any of these readings in particular based on the arguments in my previous
> e-mails. I do of course know there can be some exaggeration.
>
> Though I think most events that are able to produce the giant hail event
> would not usually do it in an isolated manner - well not from my
> observations over the years. However, structurally, HP supercells in
> particular begin with the "relatively" smaller hail (usually more isolated)
> but then become larger as the main core passes over in their mature stage
> and falling more in torrents. I suspect LP supercells tend to drop less
> hail but can dump some giant stuff. I am not sure if there is such an
> organised structure. Classic supercells (or should I say supercells in
> their classic stage) are not renowned for the largest giant hail events but
> I would not take any risks. I am wondering (suspect) if "extremely" high
> windshear situations which are more aligned to the classic tornadic
> supercells are less likely to produce the extreme giant hail events.
>
> Getting back to the original purpose of the post, I again do not doubt the
> extent of the giant hail reported in the US since they are posting warnings
> of hail to 2", 3" and 4" and like I said I have seen 5" warning. Usually
> somewhere, spotters verify something of such a nature as Simon has pointed
> out just in recent examples.
>
> This has been an interesting thread.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
>
> >Cheers
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> >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:54 AM
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> >
> >Having a look at SPC again this morning, AGAIN 4.5inch hail was reported on
> >th 29-4-02 this time
> >
> >TIME | SIZE | LOCATION                 | COUNTY  | STATE |  LAT  | LONG |
> >COMMENTS
> >0133    275   5 W WEATHERFORD   PARKER    TX       3276   9789    REPORTED
> >BY
> >
> >STORM SPOTTER.
> >
> >(FTW)
> >
> >0134   300    5 S
> >BRIDGEPORT          WISE       TX       3313   9776    REPORTED BY
> >
> >STORM SPOTTER.
> >
> >(FTW)
> >
> >0153   450        DECATUR                 WISE        TX      3323    9760
> >   REPORTED BY HAM
> >
> >RADIO OPERATOR.
> >
> >(FTW)
> >
> >Hail Sizes in 1/100 of an Inch (75 = 0.75")
> >Source -->
> ><http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html>http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html
> >OR
> >                 http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/020429_prt_rpts.html

> >
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> >To: <<mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:27 PM
> >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> > > Hi Tom and John,
> > >
> > >  From the type of storms they have over there I do not doubt the existence
> > > of sigificant giant hailstones (4 inch hail) occurring several times each
> > > season particularly during the violent outbreak. I a not doubting though
> > > that there could be at least some slight exaggeration in recording simply
> > > by the rounding off of hailsize to the nearest 0.5 inch. But let's say
> > > there was significant hail sizes reported and therefore they do exist and
> > > they are not so uncommon. My belief is that since supercells are more
> > > common in the US due to the higher frequencies of wind shear and high cape
> > > conditions, then significant hail should occur more regularly.
> > >
> > > Of course, any particular area being hit by the hail swathe is a much
> > > smaller probability but if we go by counties, then probabilities increase.
> > > I also do not doubt that such giant hail events do occur in particular
> > > areas of Australia - some are more prone than others. The area SW of
> > Camden
> > > near Oakdale receives severe hail at a higher frequency than other
> > > surrounding areas such as Sydney. SW and Central parts of Sydney also
> > seems
> > > to have had more of the frequent hail events than say the region I live
> > and
> > > surrounds. It is extremely rare for supercell type of events to affect my
> > > area but the region in SW and Central Sydney is more prone to such events
> > > in my view based on the proximity to topographic effects such as the
> > region
> > > near Oakdale and just to the west.
> > >
> > > On a similar note and getting back to the US, I was quite interested in
> > > reading notes on (I think) Al Moller's web site about storm chasers'
> > > beliefs that the panhandle region has a higher density of tornadoes than
> > > the statistical analyses suggest (Oklahoma City as the epicentre). Well
> > the
> > > tornado we got last year is officially recorded as F3 based on damage to
> > > one building and 2 cars picked up and thrown across the 4 lane highway
> > (the
> > > one we were travelling on). I do believe the tornado was stronger than
> > this
> > > simply by the shear size, structure and significant rotation of the collar
> > > cloud. So this is only one suspect example of many in a relatively
> > sparsely
> > > populated area of the US.
> > >
> > > Interesting discussion.
> > >
> > > At 11:33 AM 30/4/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> > > >Hi Tom.
> > > >
> > > >That I believe may be the case, and I had serious doubts about a
> > report of
> > > >4.5" hail in Denver county Colorado, which caused $0 damage.  Denver
> > county
> > > >is very small, just 150 odd sq kms and almost entirely built up, so you
> > > >would expect hail that size to do significant damage, as per the famous
> > > >Sydney hailstorm.
> > > >
> > > >But Jimmy provided this excellent link,
> > > >http://www.chaseday.com/hailstones.htm which shows some nice photos of
> > 2.5"
> > > >and genuine 3" hail, judged by using a ruler on my hand as compared to
> > the
> > > >photos.  But there is no claim in this article made about the size of
> > > >specific hailstones shown in the pics, so it is hard to say if there
> > is any
> > > >exaggeration or not.
> > > >
> > > >I have witnessed hail of this size in SEQ on several occasions (no storm
> > > >chasing), but would have to say that for any particular location (street)
> > > >around Brisbane it would be an approx 1 in 25 year event.
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >John W.
> > > > >snip
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From:
> > <mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com>aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> >
> > > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tom Johnstone
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:15 AM
> > > >To: <mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com

> > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >At 01:50 AM 4/30/2002 +1000, Simon Angell wrote:
> > > > >I Just had a quick look over SPC and on the 24-4-02 there was
> > 4.5inch hail
> > > > >reported, thats 11.25cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >Now I'm not saying that those reports are untrue (and they might have
> > been
> > > >properly verified, I don't know). But in my time in the USA I have
> > noticed
> > > >a cultural difference between here and Australia. Whereas Aussies tend to
> > > >understate many things, here in the USA people like to exaggerate  - and
> > > >they do it a lot. So unless 4.5 inches was verified, I would have some
> > > >doubts.
> > > >
> > > >Cheers,
> > > >Tom
> > > >
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From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 20:00:08 May 1 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 20:03:40 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 20:00:08 T:+13.9C H:96% Bar:1019hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,060 Wavg:Calm,060 DP:+13.3C WC:+14C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+21.8C Hin:57% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 20:00:08 May 1 Temperature: +13.9 °C Humidity: 96 % Wind Speed (gust): Calm Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 060° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 060° Barometer: 1019 hPa and Steady Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: +13.3 °C Wind Chill: +14 °C Heat Index: n.a. Indoor Temperature: +21.8 °C Indoor Humidity: 57 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +13.5 °C Wet Bulb Depression: + 00.4 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 74 meters. (245 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15 Minimum Temperature: +13.9 °C at 20:00 Maximum Humidity: 96 % at 20:00 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17 Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 10:36 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +15.2 °C at 09:36 Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25 Minimum Wind Chill: +14 °C at 20:00 Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +21.8 °C at 20:00 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +25.2 °C at 10:44 Minimum Temperature: +7.9 °C at 06:13 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 08:24 Minimum Humidity: 37 % at 13:50 Maximum Wind (gust): 8.5 KT, 48° at 13:03 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 11:21 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 Maximum Rainfall Rate: 1 mm/hour at 09:00 Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 4 mm Maximum Dew Point: +19.5 °C at 08:24 Minimum Dew Point: +7.3 °C at 13:50 Minimum Wind Chill: +8 °C at 06:45 Maximum Heat Index: +25.6 °C at 10:45 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +21.8 °C at 20:00 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: aus-wx: WM-918 Barometer Readings Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 21:39:28 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi there,
 
With the barametric pressure on the WM-918 weather station, i've set the sea level pressure as listed at Adelaide airport (in this case 1026 hPa) but when mine goes back to normal display it reads 1013 hPa. What am i reading here or have i done something wrong?
 
got my reading from this link    http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDS65012.shtml 
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
 
X-Originating-IP: [129.94.14.182] From: "James Pickett" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:47:12 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 12:47:13.0160 (UTC) FILETIME=[50DD4880:01C1F10E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi Tony,

         No,  to put it bluntly you won't want to be here either, Sydney is also going through a chronic stage of boring, calm, dry, dirty weather. Add a few more cars than in Melbourne, a few more people and that same bloody High and inversion layer and you have one very dirty situation, not a breath of wind either.  I suggest perhaps a trip out  Jimmy Deguaras way, i hear they have some severe fogs out there even the odd 'superfog'......

Regards.     ( Ps).  watch out for  "THE CLOUD".  !!!!!!

James...
Brighton---Sydney

ASWA member

>From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain
>Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 18:36:36 +1000
>
>At 06:12 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>
>>Good evening all hows life treating you.
>>from what i had heard on the radio 4kq showers intill friday and
>>increasing to rain intill sunday. from sunday.
>
>Well, in Melbourne, looks like that high is going to remain parked
>here for
>another week. We'll have to issue a few parking tickets! :)
>
>I recall some lingering highs, but this one takes the cake -
>expected to
>hang around for at least another week!!!
>
>The problem is the inversions it brings (great for VHF/UHF radio)
>are also
>trapping smog. I'll be glad to get a couple of days up in Sydney
>from
>tomorrow. :)
>
>73 de Tony, VK3JED
>http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net


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X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 23:05:26 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI James,

We do get some impressive fogs and have had already several fogs this autumn already. Though I doubt our fog compares with some of the colder climates down south.

Jimmy Deguara

At 12:47 PM 1/5/2002 +0000, you wrote:

Hi Tony,

         No,  to put it bluntly you won't want to be here either, Sydney is also going through a chronic stage of boring, calm, dry, dirty weather. Add a few more cars than in Melbourne, a few more people and that same bloody High and inversion layer and you have one very dirty situation, not a breath of wind either.  I suggest perhaps a trip out  Jimmy Deguaras way, i hear they have some severe fogs out there even the odd 'superfog'......

Regards.     ( Ps).  watch out for  "THE CLOUD".  !!!!!!

James...
Brighton---Sydney

ASWA member
>From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain
>Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 18:36:36 +1000
>
>At 06:12 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>
>>Good evening all hows life treating you.
>>from what i had heard on the radio 4kq showers intill friday and
>>increasing to rain intill sunday. from sunday.
>
>Well, in Melbourne, looks like that high is going to remain parked
>here for
>another week. We'll have to issue a few parking tickets! :)
>
>I recall some lingering highs, but this one takes the cake -
>expected to
>hang around for at least another week!!!
>
>The problem is the inversions it brings (great for VHF/UHF radio)
>are also
>trapping smog. I'll be glad to get a couple of days up in Sydney
>from
>tomorrow. :)
>
>73 de Tony, VK3JED
>http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net


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From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 00:00:08 May 2 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 00:03:42 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 00:00:08 T:+14.1C H: 100% Bar:1019hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,103 Wavg:Calm,103 DP:+14.1C WC:+14C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+20.9C Hin:62% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 00:00:08 May 2 Temperature: +14.1 °C Humidity: 100 % Wind Speed (gust): Calm Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 103° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 103° Barometer: 1019 hPa and Steady Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: +14.1 °C Wind Chill: +14 °C Heat Index: n.a. Indoor Temperature: +20.9 °C Indoor Humidity: 62 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.1 °C Wet Bulb Depression: +0 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 0 meters. (0 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15 Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 00:00 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17 Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 23:51 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +15.2 °C at 09:36 Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25 Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04 Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +25.2 °C at 10:44 Minimum Temperature: +7.9 °C at 06:13 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 08:24 Minimum Humidity: 37 % at 13:50 Maximum Wind (gust): 8.5 KT, 48° at 13:03 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 11:21 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 Maximum Rainfall Rate: 1 mm/hour at 09:00 Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 4 mm Maximum Dew Point: +19.5 °C at 08:24 Minimum Dew Point: +7.3 °C at 13:50 Minimum Wind Chill: +8 °C at 06:45 Maximum Heat Index: +25.6 °C at 10:45 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: What's a Tornado? Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:11:03 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Channel 10 seems to think that a tornado is a storm(not a part of a storm), that they happen at random(not connected to storms) and that a rating for a storm is F4!!! David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8zkOHx58m2d272NoRAp5DAJ46rZI4W3yJ9+Py9Agb61vepUzyeQCguVDT 0o5xjVLmpC7U6KrMBQkz7Ig= =Tecz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 01:58:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 15:59:14.0311 (UTC) FILETIME=[24016970:01C1F129] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

I had replied earlier, but they havent seemed tohave come throus, so ill cut and paste it here
 
I asked for verfication on his earlier comment and his response was.
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[19:15:50] <StormSGF> I guess I mean both...the number of events and the size of the hail. I've seen some data that suggests the hail in India/Mongolia/China is the largest in the world.
 
I have asked him about the database, and just waiting for a response

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His response to the validity is...
[20:39:33] <StormSGF> the reports in that database (US) are very valid

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake

Hi Simon,

Ok. So ask this person about the validity of the reports in the database which initially started this thread. I don't doubt that these counties including Australia don't get such giant hail events - after all Casino, Kingslcliff and Sydney are recent examples. I would also add Bangladesh into the equation with heat within the tropics and let's say sufficient windshear being the main reason why such giant hail can exist there. But the warmer temperatures should help in melting some of the hail so perhaps it would occur more in the elevated regions?? I am still in the process of studying the events there. I think David Croan would be in a better position to discuss some of the literature regards severe weather that is associated with the area.

The database link is:

http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/wwcgi.dll?wwevent~storms

There are exceptional giant hail events of 5" and greater. Have these been verified? I think the Sydney hailstorm has now been accepted as having produced the largest hailstones officially in Australia - 11 - 12cm. The 14cm hail report from Kempsey has been discounted because it was not measured.

Thanks.

Jimmy Deguara

At 07:13 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
His Actual Comment...
[16:11:16] <StormSGF> yes, 4.5" hail does exist
[16:11:46] <StormSGF> infact, I'm surprised you asked that Canberra-Wx because our studies have shown that parts of AU, China, and India have bigger hail then we do

 
I assume he meant that we get bigger hail then they get....
 
Also, i was watching strom warning of the discovery channel a little earlier, and a Met from the US went on a chase and got caught up in a hail storm, from the footage i saw most has was 1 to 2 inches, but the rear window got smashed then seconds later the front got shattered, although it was still in the frame *just*, the Met said it would have been 5" hail that bounced off the bonnet and hit the windscreen.. Toward the end of the story it showed a peice of giant hail in a person hand and said "this 3" hail..." to me however it looked 2" max as  was smaller than the hand it was on!!!!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake

> At 04:27 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hi all
> >I asked an IRC buddy about the 4.5" hail (he is a US met)..
> >he said that 4.5" hail does exist and infact studies he has been involved
> >in have shown that larger hail has fallen in parts of AU, China, and India...
>
> Could you refine your comment here. I am not sure whether you are
> suggesting if "larger" hail has fallen in AU China and India or you are
> referring generally to sunstantial giant hail events in these countries. I
> suspect the latter. By the way, we call these exceptionaly giant tile
> smashign hail as "gorilla hail". I love it:)))))
>
> >
> >As for the rounding to the nearest .50 of an inch, i think that it is
> >mainly rounded to the nearest 0.25 of an inch with exception of smailler
> >reports which have 0.88 size.
> >
> >We also have to remember that all they need is 1 stone of 4.5" to report
> >it, so Avg size may have been 1 or 2 inches and then there was a 4.5"
> >stone that fell near a spotter....
>
> Thanks for the verification from your IRC buddy. As I said, I don't doubt
> any of these readings in particular based on the arguments in my previous
> e-mails. I do of course know there can be some exaggeration.
>
> Though I think most events that are able to produce the giant hail event
> would not usually do it in an isolated manner - well not from my
> observations over the years. However, structurally, HP supercells in
> particular begin with the "relatively" smaller hail (usually more isolated)
> but then become larger as the main core passes over in their mature stage
> and falling more in torrents. I suspect LP supercells tend to drop less
> hail but can dump some giant stuff. I am not sure if there is such an
> organised structure. Classic supercells (or should I say supercells in
> their classic stage) are not renowned for the largest giant hail events but
> I would not take any risks. I am wondering (suspect) if "extremely" high
> windshear situations which are more aligned to the classic tornadic
> supercells are less likely to produce the extreme giant hail events.
>
> Getting back to the original purpose of the post, I again do not doubt the
> extent of the giant hail reported in the US since they are posting warnings
> of hail to 2", 3" and 4" and like I said I have seen 5" warning. Usually
> somewhere, spotters verify something of such a nature as Simon has pointed
> out just in recent examples.
>
> This has been an interesting thread.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
>
> >Cheers
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> >Simon Angell
> >Canberra, ACT
> ><http://www.canberra-wx.com>www.canberra-wx.com

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> >From: <mailto:seangell at iprimus.com.au>Simon Angell
> >To: <mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com

> >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:54 AM
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> >
> >Having a look at SPC again this morning, AGAIN 4.5inch hail was reported on
> >th 29-4-02 this time
> >
> >TIME | SIZE | LOCATION                 | COUNTY  | STATE |  LAT  | LONG |
> >COMMENTS
> >0133    275   5 W WEATHERFORD   PARKER    TX       3276   9789    REPORTED
> >BY
> >
> >STORM SPOTTER.
> >
> >(FTW)
> >
> >0134   300    5 S
> >BRIDGEPORT          WISE       TX       3313   9776    REPORTED BY
> >
> >STORM SPOTTER.
> >
> >(FTW)
> >
> >0153   450        DECATUR                 WISE        TX      3323    9760
> >   REPORTED BY HAM
> >
> >RADIO OPERATOR.
> >
> >(FTW)
> >
> >Hail Sizes in 1/100 of an Inch (75 = 0.75")
> >Source -->
> ><http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html>http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html
> >OR
> >                 http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/020429_prt_rpts.html

> >
> >Cheers
> >---------------------------------------
> >Simon Angell
> >Canberra, ACT
> ><http://www.canberra-wx.com>www.canberra-wx.com

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> >From: "Jimmy Deguara" <<mailto:jdeguara at ihug.com.au>jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
> >To: <<mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:27 PM
> >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> > > Hi Tom and John,
> > >
> > >  From the type of storms they have over there I do not doubt the existence
> > > of sigificant giant hailstones (4 inch hail) occurring several times each
> > > season particularly during the violent outbreak. I a not doubting though
> > > that there could be at least some slight exaggeration in recording simply
> > > by the rounding off of hailsize to the nearest 0.5 inch. But let's say
> > > there was significant hail sizes reported and therefore they do exist and
> > > they are not so uncommon. My belief is that since supercells are more
> > > common in the US due to the higher frequencies of wind shear and high cape
> > > conditions, then significant hail should occur more regularly.
> > >
> > > Of course, any particular area being hit by the hail swathe is a much
> > > smaller probability but if we go by counties, then probabilities increase.
> > > I also do not doubt that such giant hail events do occur in particular
> > > areas of Australia - some are more prone than others. The area SW of
> > Camden
> > > near Oakdale receives severe hail at a higher frequency than other
> > > surrounding areas such as Sydney. SW and Central parts of Sydney also
> > seems
> > > to have had more of the frequent hail events than say the region I live
> > and
> > > surrounds. It is extremely rare for supercell type of events to affect my
> > > area but the region in SW and Central Sydney is more prone to such events
> > > in my view based on the proximity to topographic effects such as the
> > region
> > > near Oakdale and just to the west.
> > >
> > > On a similar note and getting back to the US, I was quite interested in
> > > reading notes on (I think) Al Moller's web site about storm chasers'
> > > beliefs that the panhandle region has a higher density of tornadoes than
> > > the statistical analyses suggest (Oklahoma City as the epicentre). Well
> > the
> > > tornado we got last year is officially recorded as F3 based on damage to
> > > one building and 2 cars picked up and thrown across the 4 lane highway
> > (the
> > > one we were travelling on). I do believe the tornado was stronger than
> > this
> > > simply by the shear size, structure and significant rotation of the collar
> > > cloud. So this is only one suspect example of many in a relatively
> > sparsely
> > > populated area of the US.
> > >
> > > Interesting discussion.
> > >
> > > At 11:33 AM 30/4/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> > > >Hi Tom.
> > > >
> > > >That I believe may be the case, and I had serious doubts about a
> > report of
> > > >4.5" hail in Denver county Colorado, which caused $0 damage.  Denver
> > county
> > > >is very small, just 150 odd sq kms and almost entirely built up, so you
> > > >would expect hail that size to do significant damage, as per the famous
> > > >Sydney hailstorm.
> > > >
> > > >But Jimmy provided this excellent link,
> > > >http://www.chaseday.com/hailstones.htm which shows some nice photos of
> > 2.5"
> > > >and genuine 3" hail, judged by using a ruler on my hand as compared to
> > the
> > > >photos.  But there is no claim in this article made about the size of
> > > >specific hailstones shown in the pics, so it is hard to say if there
> > is any
> > > >exaggeration or not.
> > > >
> > > >I have witnessed hail of this size in SEQ on several occasions (no storm
> > > >chasing), but would have to say that for any particular location (street)
> > > >around Brisbane it would be an approx 1 in 25 year event.
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >John W.
> > > > >snip
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From:
> > <mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com>aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> >
> > > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tom Johnstone
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:15 AM
> > > >To: <mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com

> > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >At 01:50 AM 4/30/2002 +1000, Simon Angell wrote:
> > > > >I Just had a quick look over SPC and on the 24-4-02 there was
> > 4.5inch hail
> > > > >reported, thats 11.25cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >Now I'm not saying that those reports are untrue (and they might have
> > been
> > > >properly verified, I don't know). But in my time in the USA I have
> > noticed
> > > >a cultural difference between here and Australia. Whereas Aussies tend to
> > > >understate many things, here in the USA people like to exaggerate  - and
> > > >they do it a lot. So unless 4.5 inches was verified, I would have some
> > > >doubts.
> > > >
> > > >Cheers,
> > > >Tom
> > > >
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From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 04:00:08 May 2 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 04:03:43 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 04:00:08 T:+14.3C H: 100% Bar:1020hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,074 Wavg:Calm,074 DP:+14.3C WC:+14C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+20.8C Hin:64% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 04:00:08 May 2 Temperature: +14.3 °C Humidity: 100 % Wind Speed (gust): Calm Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 074° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 074° Barometer: 1020 hPa and Steady Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: +14.3 °C Wind Chill: +14 °C Heat Index: n.a. Indoor Temperature: +20.8 °C Indoor Humidity: 64 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.3 °C Wet Bulb Depression: +0 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 0 meters. (0 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15 Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 04:00 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17 Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 04:00 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +15.2 °C at 09:36 Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25 Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04 Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +25.2 °C at 10:44 Minimum Temperature: +7.9 °C at 06:13 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 08:24 Minimum Humidity: 37 % at 13:50 Maximum Wind (gust): 8.5 KT, 48° at 13:03 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 11:21 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 Maximum Rainfall Rate: 1 mm/hour at 09:00 Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 4 mm Maximum Dew Point: +19.5 °C at 08:24 Minimum Dew Point: +7.3 °C at 13:50 Minimum Wind Chill: +8 °C at 06:45 Maximum Heat Index: +25.6 °C at 10:45 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 08:00:08 May 2 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 08:03:44 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 08:00:08 T:+20.1C H:61% Bar:1022hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,027 Wavg:Calm,027 DP:+12.3C WC:+20C HIx:+24.5C Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+23C Hin:61% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 08:00:08 May 2 Temperature: +20.1 °C Humidity: 61 % Wind Speed (gust): Calm Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 027° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 027° Barometer: 1022 hPa and Steady Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: +12.3 °C Wind Chill: +20 °C Heat Index: +24.5 °C Indoor Temperature: +23 °C Indoor Humidity: 61 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +15.6 °C Wet Bulb Depression: +4.5 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 975 meters. (3198 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15 Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:42 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17 Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 08:00 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +19.1 °C at 07:42 Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25 Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04 Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 07:13 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +25.2 °C at 10:44 Minimum Temperature: +7.9 °C at 06:13 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 08:24 Minimum Humidity: 37 % at 13:50 Maximum Wind (gust): 8.5 KT, 48° at 13:03 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 11:21 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 Maximum Rainfall Rate: 1 mm/hour at 09:00 Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 4 mm Maximum Dew Point: +19.5 °C at 08:24 Minimum Dew Point: +7.3 °C at 13:50 Minimum Wind Chill: +8 °C at 06:45 Maximum Heat Index: +25.6 °C at 10:45 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 07:13 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: michael_wright at optusnet.com.au To: Subject: aus-wx: cold weather Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:03:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
all i can say is cold cold cold for the next three days
From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: WM-918 Barometer Readings Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:16:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The standard reading is where you are, you can then press the down button to get sea level.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:09 PM
Subject: aus-wx: WM-918 Barometer Readings

Hi there,
 
With the barametric pressure on the WM-918 weather station, i've set the sea level pressure as listed at Adelaide airport (in this case 1026 hPa) but when mine goes back to normal display it reads 1013 hPa. What am i reading here or have i done something wrong?
 
got my reading from this link    http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDS65012.shtml 
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
 
From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 00:00:08 May 2 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:17:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Can anyone tell me, is it possible to get 100% humidity of the night time with fog etc. or is the sensor stuffed? ___________________________________ Glen O'Riley goriley at tsn.cc www.mypage.tsn.cc/oriley * Computer Repairs * Computer Sales * Computer Upgrades * Computer Networking * Computer Training * Web Page Construction * TV Antenna Installation * Livestock Work -------- Storm Chaser Firefighter SES Volunteer ACREM CB Radio Monitor Rail Fan _________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:03 AM Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 00:00:08 May 2 > > FreeWX 00:00:08 > T:+14.1C H: 100% Bar:1019hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,103 Wavg:Calm,103 > DP:+14.1C WC:+14C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+20.9C Hin:62% > > **************************************************** > > Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia > **************************************************** > Weather Conditions at 00:00:08 May 2 > > Temperature: +14.1 °C > Humidity: 100 % > Wind Speed (gust): Calm > Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm > Wind Direction: 103° > Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 103° > Barometer: 1019 hPa and Steady > Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour > Dew Point: +14.1 °C > Wind Chill: +14 °C > Heat Index: n.a. > Indoor Temperature: +20.9 °C > Indoor Humidity: 62 % > Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.1 °C > Wet Bulb Depression: +0 °C > Base Height of Cu Cloud: 0 meters. (0 feet) > > > Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am > > Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15 > Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43 > Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 00:00 > Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17 > Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39 > Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 23:51 > Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 > Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil > Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm > Maximum Dew Point: +15.2 °C at 09:36 > Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25 > Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04 > Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15 > Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25 > Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35 > > > Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am > > Maximum Temperature: +25.2 °C at 10:44 > Minimum Temperature: +7.9 °C at 06:13 > Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 08:24 > Minimum Humidity: 37 % at 13:50 > Maximum Wind (gust): 8.5 KT, 48° at 13:03 > Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 11:21 > Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 > Maximum Rainfall Rate: 1 mm/hour at 09:00 > Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 4 mm > Maximum Dew Point: +19.5 °C at 08:24 > Minimum Dew Point: +7.3 °C at 13:50 > Minimum Wind Chill: +8 °C at 06:45 > Maximum Heat Index: +25.6 °C at 10:45 > Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25 > Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35 > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: aus-wx: Monthly Weather at Gilmore A.C.T. Canberra Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:49:09 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
IHi all, Hope this doesn't bounce around like the last time!
Canberra Weather very dry and stable in April. Rainfall was only 17.4 mm on 4 days (average 52mm) Mean Temp for month 14.8 deg.(above the mean (13.3 deg.) Mean Max 21.4 (av. 19.7 deg.) Mean Min.8.2 deg (Av. 6.6 deg) Warmest day 25.5 deg 1402 13th coldest day 14.3 deg 1354 14th!
coldest morning 2.9 deg at 0635 6th. warmest nigt 12.1 deg on the 18th .A very quiet month , nothing in sig wx for whole month Highest wind gust SW 53 km/hr 1742 21st. Unlike the Airport we did not record a record Max on Anzac Day.We started recording in Canberra in 1981, present site in 1991.
Outlook for next three months; Rainfall below average, Max above average Mins below average.Snow Season on Snowy Mountains looks bleak for start of the season. A poor snow cover likely.Expect a very good season in NZ South Island!!
Gavin O'Brien
Southside Weather Watch.
Canberra A.C.T.
X-Originating-IP: [144.132.45.8] From: "Liam Domanski" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: What's a Tornado? Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 11:16:42 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2002 01:16:42.0281 (UTC) FILETIME=[048C9990:01C1F177] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The whole media is dumb!!! Not just channel 10. I think we need to hold a "WHAT IS A TORNADO?" seminar, and force all media persons to attend it. The penalty for not attending should be getting struck by a monster multi pulse CG, then being hit by baseball sized hail, then meet a REAL F5 tornado. Either way, they'll learn! Lol Liam >From: David Findlay >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: What's a Tornado? >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:11:03 +1000 > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Channel 10 seems to think that a tornado is a storm(not a part of a storm), >that they happen at random(not connected to storms) and that a rating for a >storm is F4!!! > >David >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > >iD8DBQE8zkOHx58m2d272NoRAp5DAJ46rZI4W3yJ9+Py9Agb61vepUzyeQCguVDT >0o5xjVLmpC7U6KrMBQkz7Ig= >=Tecz >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "nandina morris" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 11:52:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Maybe if we all gathered together on the east coat, with an oar, and of the count of 3 ......shove! Huh :-) Cheers, Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Langdon (VK3JED) To: Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain > At 09:28 PM 1/05/2002 +1200, you wrote: > > >Hi, > >That high over SE Australia is rudely fowling our weather (NZ). Could you > >shift a bit further east please. > >I like autumn sunshine. South of the South island is getting it worst with > >thunder and hail today and > >snow down to 700m. Tomorrow, southwest gales and squally showers for > >Invercargill. > > I'd happily nudge it across if I could, it's trapping smog over here. :-( > > And I like warm days with a northerly :) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.350 / Virus Database: 196 - Release Date: 4/17/02 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 12:00:08 May 2 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:03:46 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 12:00:08 T:+24.1C H:38% Bar:1022hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,207 Wavg:Calm,215 DP:+8.9C WC:+24C HIx:+24.7C Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+26.4C Hin:42% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 12:00:08 May 2 Temperature: +24.1 °C Humidity: 38 % Wind Speed (gust): Calm Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 207° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 215° Barometer: 1022 hPa and Steady Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: +8.9 °C Wind Chill: +24 °C Heat Index: +24.7 °C Indoor Temperature: +26.4 °C Indoor Humidity: 42 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +16 °C Wet Bulb Depression: +8.1 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 1900 meters. (6232 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 10:44 Minimum Temperature: +20.5 °C at 11:00 Maximum Humidity: 59 % at 10:13 Minimum Humidity: 35 % at 11:12 Maximum Wind (gust): 8.1 KT, 150° at 11:25 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 12:00 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 12:00 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +13 °C at 10:13 Minimum Dew Point: +7.4 °C at 11:36 Minimum Wind Chill: +19 °C at 10:59 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 11:42 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.8 °C at 09:01 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15 Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:42 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17 Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 08:59 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +19.1 °C at 07:42 Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25 Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04 Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 11:42 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.8 °C at 09:01 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Chas & Helen Osborn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: cold weather Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:24:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Michael
 
Where abouts are you?
 
Chas
Strahan Tasmania
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Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:03 AM
Subject: aus-wx: cold weather

all i can say is cold cold cold for the next three days
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 10:19:32 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 00:00:08 May 2 X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Humidity of 100% is actually quite common here. When it happens, fog will form outdoors or indoors almost instantly and water condenses all over the walls and ceilings indoors. If it continues for too long, condensed water drips from the ceiling so it seems to be raining indoors! Most people here have to buy dehumidifiers for each room in their home. Outdoors, when the humidity is 100%, everything constantly drips and the ladies all complain that their washing will never dry. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:17:13 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 00:00:08 May 2 > Can anyone tell me, is it possible to get 100% humidity of the night > time > with fog etc. or is the sensor stuffed? > ___________________________________ > > Glen O'Riley > goriley at tsn.cc > www.mypage.tsn.cc/oriley > > * Computer Repairs > * Computer Sales > * Computer Upgrades > * Computer Networking > * Computer Training > * Web Page Construction > * TV Antenna Installation > * Livestock Work > -------- > Storm Chaser > Firefighter > SES Volunteer > ACREM CB Radio Monitor > Rail Fan > _________________________________ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:03 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 00:00:08 May 2 > > > > > > FreeWX 00:00:08 > > T:+14.1C H: 100% Bar:1019hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,103 Wavg:Calm,103 > > DP:+14.1C WC:+14C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+20.9C Hin:62% > > > > **************************************************** > > > > Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia > > **************************************************** > > Weather Conditions at 00:00:08 May 2 > > > > Temperature: +14.1 °C > > Humidity: 100 % > > Wind Speed (gust): Calm > > Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm > > Wind Direction: 103° > > Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 103° > > Barometer: 1019 hPa and Steady > > Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour > > Dew Point: +14.1 °C > > Wind Chill: +14 °C > > Heat Index: n.a. > > Indoor Temperature: +20.9 °C > > Indoor Humidity: 62 % > > Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.1 °C > > Wet Bulb Depression: +0 °C > > Base Height of Cu Cloud: 0 meters. (0 feet) > > > > > > Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am > > > > Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15 > > Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43 > > Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 00:00 > > Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17 > > Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39 > > Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 23:51 > > Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 > > Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil > > Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm > > Maximum Dew Point: +15.2 °C at 09:36 > > Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25 > > Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04 > > Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15 > > Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25 > > Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35 > > > > > > Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am > > > > Maximum Temperature: +25.2 °C at 10:44 > > Minimum Temperature: +7.9 °C at 06:13 > > Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 08:24 > > Minimum Humidity: 37 % at 13:50 > > Maximum Wind (gust): 8.5 KT, 48° at 13:03 > > Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 11:21 > > Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 > > Maximum Rainfall Rate: 1 mm/hour at 09:00 > > Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 4 mm > > Maximum Dew Point: +19.5 °C at 08:24 > > Minimum Dew Point: +7.3 °C at 13:50 > > Minimum Wind Chill: +8 °C at 06:45 > > Maximum Heat Index: +25.6 °C at 10:45 > > Maximum Indoor Temperature: +25.5 °C at 14:25 > > Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.7 °C at 23:35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: cold weather Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:22:01 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Not here.. sunny & 25c today & 26c then till Sunday..
 
Regs, Paul.
(Stargazer)
 
Adelaide, SA
 
ps. Need a good electrical thunder storm to roll through :)
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Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:33 AM
Subject: aus-wx: cold weather

all i can say is cold cold cold for the next three days
From: "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: Re: aus-wx: What Weather Station? Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:16:39 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com DSE = Dick Smith Electronics www.dse.com.au but their web site is offline at the moment - "closed for maintenance" the site says :( Advanced Home Weather Station Model : WM-918 Cat No. D3960 $398rrp. On sale this month (May) starting this Thursday 2/5/02 for $298 (well, here in Adelaide anyway but should be nationally) but i don't know how long the sale goes for - a week? Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Tristram" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:56 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: What Weather Station? > Paul > > I have been after a good weather station for a while. Is this one advertised > on the net? What's the DSE? > > Peter T > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:57:50 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: cold weather X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here too... "Fine and Hot" is forecast for the next five days: FRI 25-30C 70-90% SAT 25-30C 70-90% SUN 25-29C 75-95% MON 25-30C 70-90% TUE 25-30C 70-90% Put on the air-con and go to sleep is the best way I can think of to deal with that. Trouble is, I have to go to work! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Stargazer" To: Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:22:01 +0930 Subject: Re: aus-wx: cold weather > Not here.. sunny & 25c today & 26c then till Sunday.. > > Regs, Paul. > (Stargazer) > > Adelaide, SA > > ps. Need a good electrical thunder storm to roll through :) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: michael_wright at optusnet.com.au > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:33 AM > Subject: aus-wx: cold weather > > > all i can say is cold cold cold for the next three days > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: cold weather To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 15:08:22 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Here too... > "Fine and Hot" is forecast for the next five days: > FRI 25-30C 70-90% > SAT 25-30C 70-90% > SUN 25-29C 75-95% > MON 25-30C 70-90% > TUE 25-30C 70-90% > > Put on the air-con and go to sleep is the best way I can think of to deal > with that. Trouble is, I have to go to work! > I once went for a 40-minute run in Hong Kong in August and finished it 3kg lighter than I started.... Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 2 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 16:03:48 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 16:00:08 T:+20.3C H:49% Bar:1020hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,128 Wavg:Calm,151 DP:+9.2C WC:+20C HIx:+24.2C Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+25.7C Hin:43% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 16:00:08 May 2 Temperature: +20.3 °C Humidity: 49 % Wind Speed (gust): Calm Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 128° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 151° Barometer: 1020 hPa and Steady Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: +9.2 °C Wind Chill: +20 °C Heat Index: +24.2 °C Indoor Temperature: +25.7 °C Indoor Humidity: 43 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.3 °C Wet Bulb Depression: +6 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 1387 meters. (4551 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02 Minimum Temperature: +20.2 °C at 15:58 Maximum Humidity: 59 % at 10:13 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21 Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 12:06 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 16:00 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +13 °C at 10:13 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32 Minimum Wind Chill: +19 °C at 15:42 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27.3 °C at 13:43 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.7 °C at 16:00 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15 Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:42 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17 Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 08:59 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +19.1 °C at 07:42 Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25 Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04 Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27.3 °C at 13:43 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.7 °C at 16:00 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: michael_wright at optusnet.com.au To: Subject: aus-wx: The Annual rain for summer 2002 Maroochydore Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 16:35:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com


The Annual rain for summer 2002
 
Year    Jan    Feb    Mar    Apr   
2002   62.2   67.2   95.4   89.2
 
All up total 314 mm of rain
 
Michael Wright
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X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 16:56:31 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: cold weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Blair, Well my advice to you is not to run next time:))) Yes those parts of Asia area extremely humid and I suppose Darwin is as well. Jimmy Deguara At 03:08 PM 2/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > > > Here too... > > "Fine and Hot" is forecast for the next five days: > > FRI 25-30C 70-90% > > SAT 25-30C 70-90% > > SUN 25-29C 75-95% > > MON 25-30C 70-90% > > TUE 25-30C 70-90% > > > > Put on the air-con and go to sleep is the best way I can think of to deal > > with that. Trouble is, I have to go to work! > > > >I once went for a 40-minute run in Hong Kong in August and finished it >3kg lighter than I started.... > >Blair > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: What Weather Station? Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:48:14 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > On sale this month (May) starting this Thursday 2/5/02 for $298 > (well, here in Adelaide anyway but should be nationally) but i don't know > how long the sale goes for - a week? Sale ends Wednesday 29/5/02 Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 20:00:08 May 2 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 20:03:49 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 20:00:08 T:+15.5C H:93% Bar:1022hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,070 Wavg:Calm,070 DP:+14.4C WC:+16C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+23.2C Hin:55% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 20:00:08 May 2 Temperature: +15.5 °C Humidity: 93 % Wind Speed (gust): Calm Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 070° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 070° Barometer: 1022 hPa and Steady Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: +14.4 °C Wind Chill: +16 °C Heat Index: n.a. Indoor Temperature: +23.2 °C Indoor Humidity: 55 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.8 °C Wet Bulb Depression: + 00.7 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 137 meters. (450 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02 Minimum Temperature: +15.5 °C at 20:00 Maximum Humidity: 93 % at 20:00 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21 Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 20:00 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 17:21 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +14.4 °C at 20:00 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32 Minimum Wind Chill: +16 °C at 20:00 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27.3 °C at 13:43 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +23.2 °C at 20:00 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +25.9 °C at 11:15 Minimum Temperature: +12.9 °C at 21:43 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:42 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 15:17 Maximum Wind (gust): 6.9 KT, 14° at 15:39 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 08:59 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:36 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +19.1 °C at 07:42 Minimum Dew Point: +5.5 °C at 15:25 Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 23:04 Maximum Heat Index: +26 °C at 11:15 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27.3 °C at 13:43 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +23.2 °C at 20:00 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: michael_wright at optusnet.com.au To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:02:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That could be hard. i mean it is blowing so heard i have to tie my self down i on the 3th floor lol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Williams" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:28 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain > Hi, > That high over SE Australia is rudely fowling our weather (NZ). Could you > shift a bit further east please. > I like autumn sunshine. South of the South island is getting it worst with > thunder and hail today and > snow down to 700m. Tomorrow, southwest gales and squally showers for > Invercargill. > Bye > Steven W > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Barnett" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain > > > > Interesting too that such blocking highs are more usual over NZ especially > > in summer or spring..does this mean we can expect one in June over Bass > > Strait with an east coast low...? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:36 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain > > > > > > > At 06:12 PM 1/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > > > > > >Good evening all hows life treating you. > > > >from what i had heard on the radio 4kq showers intill friday and > > > >increasing to rain intill sunday. from sunday. > > > > > > Well, in Melbourne, looks like that high is going to remain parked here > > for > > > another week. We'll have to issue a few parking tickets! :) > > > > > > I recall some lingering highs, but this one takes the cake - expected to > > > hang around for at least another week!!! > > > > > > The problem is the inversions it brings (great for VHF/UHF radio) are > also > > > trapping smog. I'll be glad to get a couple of days up in Sydney from > > > tomorrow. :) > > > > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > > > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: michael_wright at optusnet.com.au To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: What's a Tornado? Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:08:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Don't you no what a tronado is damm i fort i was nut ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Findlay" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:11 PM Subject: aus-wx: What's a Tornado? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Channel 10 seems to think that a tornado is a storm(not a part of a storm), > that they happen at random(not connected to storms) and that a rating for a > storm is F4!!! > > David > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE8zkOHx58m2d272NoRAp5DAJ46rZI4W3yJ9+Py9Agb61vepUzyeQCguVDT > 0o5xjVLmpC7U6KrMBQkz7Ig= > =Tecz > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: michael_wright at optusnet.com.au To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: cold weather Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:05:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Sunshine coast Maroochydore were its still wet and cold i'm on the 3th floor and the wind man it's blowin like madness out there time is 9:05 pm and temps out side 21.1 drgs.
it's what you call sleeping weather
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Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: cold weather

Hello Michael
 
Where abouts are you?
 
Chas
Strahan Tasmania
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Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:03 AM
Subject: aus-wx: cold weather

all i can say is cold cold cold for the next three days
From: "Paul Yole" To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: Severe Plot v2.0 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:30:01 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey All. Doing some general browsing lately, and I ran across this program on the SPC site. The program is called SeverePlot v2.0 and it is a graphical database of severe thunderstorm and tornado occurrences in the United States. Datafiles are available from 1950 - 1998, with annual updates expected around May of each year. They have just released a update which now includes reports for 2000 as well (Hopefully another update will be out soon). It's a 8.4mb file (Which takes a bit to download on my 56kbps dial-up), but it's quite interesting...a definite for those interested in past severe weather. (Jimmy...you HAVE to have a look at this) You can download it from the following: http://www.spc.noaa.gov/software/svrplot2/ The update is also linked to the page. PaulY Paul Yole Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA Cell Phone#: (040) 081-9519 http://www.lexicon.net/yolestorm/ "I never knew what life meant, until I found that special person I had been looking for. Now she is blessing us with our little angel, all those nightmare memories from the past all seem to be a forgotten dream...I love you Kelley" - PaulY (2002) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Max King" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: What's a Tornado? Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:32:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good onya Liam! That's the spirit!!!!!! My sentiments precisely. Max -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Liam Domanski Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 11:17 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: What's a Tornado? The whole media is dumb!!! Not just channel 10. I think we need to hold a "WHAT IS A TORNADO?" seminar, and force all media persons to attend it. The penalty for not attending should be getting struck by a monster multi pulse CG, then being hit by baseball sized hail, then meet a REAL F5 tornado. Either way, they'll learn! Lol Liam >From: David Findlay >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: What's a Tornado? >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:11:03 +1000 > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Channel 10 seems to think that a tornado is a storm(not a part of a storm), >that they happen at random(not connected to storms) and that a rating for a >storm is F4!!! > >David >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > >iD8DBQE8zkOHx58m2d272NoRAp5DAJ46rZI4W3yJ9+Py9Agb61vepUzyeQCguVDT >0o5xjVLmpC7U6KrMBQkz7Ig= >=Tecz >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 21:56:16 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey guys, Check this out for hail:) http://www.cyclonejim.com/index.htm the main page http://www.cyclonejim.com/jimvideoclipindex.htm check out the small videos including the hail Jimmy Deguara At 01:58 AM 2/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: >I had replied earlier, but they havent seemed tohave come throus, so ill >cut and paste it here > >I asked for verfication on his earlier comment and his response was. >--------------------------------------- >[19:15:50] I guess I mean both...the number of events and the >size of the hail. I've seen some data that suggests the hail in >India/Mongolia/China is the largest in the world. > >I have asked him about the database, and just waiting for a response > >--------------------------------- >His response to the validity is... >[20:39:33] the reports in that database (US) are very valid > >Cheers >--------------------------------------- >Simon Angell >Canberra, ACT >www.canberra-wx.com >--------------------------------------- >This Email is virus free. >Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. >Virus definition file 27-04-2002. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jimmy Deguara >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:46 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake > >Hi Simon, > >Ok. So ask this person about the validity of the reports in the database >which initially started this thread. I don't doubt that these counties >including Australia don't get such giant hail events - after all Casino, >Kingslcliff and Sydney are recent examples. I would also add Bangladesh >into the equation with heat within the tropics and let's say sufficient >windshear being the main reason why such giant hail can exist there. But >the warmer temperatures should help in melting some of the hail so perhaps >it would occur more in the elevated regions?? I am still in the process of >studying the events there. I think David Croan would be in a better >position to discuss some of the literature regards severe weather that is >associated with the area. > >The database link is: > >http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/wwcgi.dll?wwevent~storms > >There are exceptional giant hail events of 5" and greater. Have these been >verified? I think the Sydney hailstorm has now been accepted as having >produced the largest hailstones officially in Australia - 11 - 12cm. The >14cm hail report from Kempsey has been discounted because it was not measured. > >Thanks. > >Jimmy Deguara > >At 07:13 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: >>His Actual Comment... >>[16:11:16] yes, 4.5" hail does exist >>[16:11:46] infact, I'm surprised you asked that Canberra-Wx >>because our studies have shown that parts of AU, China, and India have >>bigger hail then we do >> >>I assume he meant that we get bigger hail then they get.... >> >>Also, i was watching strom warning of the discovery channel a little >>earlier, and a Met from the US went on a chase and got caught up in a >>hail storm, from the footage i saw most has was 1 to 2 inches, but the >>rear window got smashed then seconds later the front got shattered, >>although it was still in the frame *just*, the Met said it would have >>been 5" hail that bounced off the bonnet and hit the windscreen.. Toward >>the end of the story it showed a peice of giant hail in a person hand and >>said "this 3" hail..." to me however it looked 2" max as was smaller >>than the hand it was on!!!! >>Cheers >>--------------------------------------- >>Simon Angell >>Canberra, ACT >>www.canberra-wx.com >>--------------------------------------- >>This Email is virus free. >>Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. >>Virus definition file 27-04-2002. >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at ihug.com.au> >>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:32 PM >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake >> > At 04:27 PM 1/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: >> > >Hi all >> > >I asked an IRC buddy about the 4.5" hail (he is a US met).. >> > >he said that 4.5" hail does exist and infact studies he has been >> involved >> > >in have shown that larger hail has fallen in parts of AU, China, and >> India... >> > >> > Could you refine your comment here. I am not sure whether you are >> > suggesting if "larger" hail has fallen in AU China and India or you are >> > referring generally to sunstantial giant hail events in these >> countries. I >> > suspect the latter. By the way, we call these exceptionaly giant tile >> > smashign hail as "gorilla hail". I love it:))))) >> > >> > > >> > >As for the rounding to the nearest .50 of an inch, i think that it is >> > >mainly rounded to the nearest 0.25 of an inch with exception of smailler >> > >reports which have 0.88 size. >> > > >> > >We also have to remember that all they need is 1 stone of 4.5" to report >> > >it, so Avg size may have been 1 or 2 inches and then there was a 4.5" >> > >stone that fell near a spotter.... >> > >> > Thanks for the verification from your IRC buddy. As I said, I don't doubt >> > any of these readings in particular based on the arguments in my previous >> > e-mails. I do of course know there can be some exaggeration. >> > >> > Though I think most events that are able to produce the giant hail event >> > would not usually do it in an isolated manner - well not from my >> > observations over the years. However, structurally, HP supercells in >> > particular begin with the "relatively" smaller hail (usually more >> isolated) >> > but then become larger as the main core passes over in their mature stage >> > and falling more in torrents. I suspect LP supercells tend to drop less >> > hail but can dump some giant stuff. I am not sure if there is such an >> > organised structure. Classic supercells (or should I say supercells in >> > their classic stage) are not renowned for the largest giant hail >> events but >> > I would not take any risks. I am wondering (suspect) if "extremely" high >> > windshear situations which are more aligned to the classic tornadic >> > supercells are less likely to produce the extreme giant hail events. >> > >> > Getting back to the original purpose of the post, I again do not doubt >> the >> > extent of the giant hail reported in the US since they are posting >> warnings >> > of hail to 2", 3" and 4" and like I said I have seen 5" warning. Usually >> > somewhere, spotters verify something of such a nature as Simon has >> pointed >> > out just in recent examples. >> > >> > This has been an interesting thread. >> > >> > Jimmy Deguara >> > >> > >> > >Cheers >> > >--------------------------------------- >> > >Simon Angell >> > >Canberra, ACT >> > ><www.canberra-wx.com>http://www.canberra-w >> x.com>www.canberra-wx.com >> > >--------------------------------------- >> > >This Email is virus free. >> > >Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. >> > >Virus definition file 27-04-2002. >> > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > >----- Original Message ----- >> > >From: >> <Simon>mailto:seangell at iprimus.com.au>Sim >> on Angell >> > >To: >> <aussie-weather at world.std.com>mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com >> >> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:54 AM >> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake >> > > >> > >Having a look at SPC again this morning, AGAIN 4.5inch hail was >> reported on >> > >th 29-4-02 this time >> > > >> > >TIME | SIZE | LOCATION | COUNTY | STATE | LAT | >> LONG | >> > >COMMENTS >> > >0133 275 5 W >> WEATHERFORD PARKER TX 3276 9789 REPORTED >> > >BY >> > > >> > >STORM SPOTTER. >> > > >> > >(FTW) >> > > >> > >0134 300 5 S >> > >BRIDGEPORT WISE TX 3313 9776 REPORTED BY >> > > >> > >STORM SPOTTER. >> > > >> > >(FTW) >> > > >> > >0153 450 DECATUR WISE TX 3323 >> 9760 >> > > REPORTED BY HAM >> > > >> > >RADIO OPERATOR. >> > > >> > >(FTW) >> > > >> > >Hail Sizes in 1/100 of an Inch (75 = 0.75") >> > >Source --> >> > ><http://www.spc. >> noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html>http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html>http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/yesterday.html >> >> > >OR >> > > >> http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/020429_prt_rpts.html >> >> > > >> > >Cheers >> > >--------------------------------------- >> > >Simon Angell >> > >Canberra, ACT >> > ><www.canberra-wx.com>http://www.canberra-w >> x.com>www.canberra-wx.com >> > >--------------------------------------- >> > >This Email is virus free. >> > >Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. >> > >Virus definition file 27-04-2002. >> > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > >----- Original Message ----- >> > >From: "Jimmy Deguara" >> <<jdeguara at ihug.com.au>mailto:jdeguara at ihug.com.au>jdeguara at ihug.com.au> >> >> > >To: >> <<aussie-weather at world.std.com>mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com> >> >> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:27 PM >> > >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake >> > > > Hi Tom and John, >> > > > >> > > > From the type of storms they have over there I do not doubt the >> existence >> > > > of sigificant giant hailstones (4 inch hail) occurring several >> times each >> > > > season particularly during the violent outbreak. I a not doubting >> though >> > > > that there could be at least some slight exaggeration in recording >> simply >> > > > by the rounding off of hailsize to the nearest 0.5 inch. But let's >> say >> > > > there was significant hail sizes reported and therefore they do >> exist and >> > > > they are not so uncommon. My belief is that since supercells are more >> > > > common in the US due to the higher frequencies of wind shear and >> high cape >> > > > conditions, then significant hail should occur more regularly. >> > > > >> > > > Of course, any particular area being hit by the hail swathe is a much >> > > > smaller probability but if we go by counties, then probabilities >> increase. >> > > > I also do not doubt that such giant hail events do occur in >> particular >> > > > areas of Australia - some are more prone than others. The area SW of >> > > Camden >> > > > near Oakdale receives severe hail at a higher frequency than other >> > > > surrounding areas such as Sydney. SW and Central parts of Sydney also >> > > seems >> > > > to have had more of the frequent hail events than say the region I >> live >> > > and >> > > > surrounds. It is extremely rare for supercell type of events to >> affect my >> > > > area but the region in SW and Central Sydney is more prone to such >> events >> > > > in my view based on the proximity to topographic effects such as the >> > > region >> > > > near Oakdale and just to the west. >> > > > >> > > > On a similar note and getting back to the US, I was quite >> interested in >> > > > reading notes on (I think) Al Moller's web site about storm chasers' >> > > > beliefs that the panhandle region has a higher density of >> tornadoes than >> > > > the statistical analyses suggest (Oklahoma City as the epicentre). >> Well >> > > the >> > > > tornado we got last year is officially recorded as F3 based on >> damage to >> > > > one building and 2 cars picked up and thrown across the 4 lane >> highway >> > > (the >> > > > one we were travelling on). I do believe the tornado was stronger >> than >> > > this >> > > > simply by the shear size, structure and significant rotation of >> the collar >> > > > cloud. So this is only one suspect example of many in a relatively >> > > sparsely >> > > > populated area of the US. >> > > > >> > > > Interesting discussion. >> > > > >> > > > At 11:33 AM 30/4/2002 +1000, you wrote: >> > > > >Hi Tom. >> > > > > >> > > > >That I believe may be the case, and I had serious doubts about a >> > > report of >> > > > >4.5" hail in Denver county Colorado, which caused $0 damage. Denver >> > > county >> > > > >is very small, just 150 odd sq kms and almost entirely built up, >> so you >> > > > >would expect hail that size to do significant damage, as per the >> famous >> > > > >Sydney hailstorm. >> > > > > >> > > > >But Jimmy provided this excellent link, >> > > > >http://www.chaseday.com/hailstones.htm which shows some nice >> photos of >> > > 2.5" >> > > > >and genuine 3" hail, judged by using a ruler on my hand as >> compared to >> > > the >> > > > >photos. But there is no claim in this article made about the >> size of >> > > > >specific hailstones shown in the pics, so it is hard to say if there >> > > is any >> > > > >exaggeration or not. >> > > > > >> > > > >I have witnessed hail of this size in SEQ on several occasions >> (no storm >> > > > >chasing), but would have to say that for any particular location >> (street) >> > > > >around Brisbane it would be an approx 1 in 25 year event. >> > > > > >> > > > >Regards, >> > > > >John W. >> > > > > >snip >> > > > >-----Original Message----- >> > > > >From: >> > > >> <aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com>mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com>aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >> >> > > >> > > > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tom >> Johnstone >> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:15 AM >> > > > >To: >> <aussie-weather at world.std.com>mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com >> >> > > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado sweeps family into lake >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >At 01:50 AM 4/30/2002 +1000, Simon Angell wrote: >> > > > > >I Just had a quick look over SPC and on the 24-4-02 there was >> > > 4.5inch hail >> > > > > >reported, thats 11.25cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> > > > >Now I'm not saying that those reports are untrue (and they might >> have >> > > been >> > > > >properly verified, I don't know). But in my time in the USA I have >> > > noticed >> > > > >a cultural difference between here and Australia. Whereas Aussies >> tend to >> > > > >understate many things, here in the USA people like to >> exaggerate - and >> > > > >they do it a lot. So unless 4.5 inches was verified, I would have >> some >> > > > >doubts. >> > > > > >> > > > >Cheers, >> > > > >Tom >> > > > > >> > > > > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> > > to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the >> body of >> > > your >> > > > > message. >> > > > > >> > > >> <-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au>mailto:-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> > > to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the >> body of >> > > your >> > > > > message. >> > > > > >> > > >> <-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au>mailto:-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > ----------------------------------------- >> > > > Jimmy Deguara >> > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher >> > > > >> > > > from >> > > > Schofields, Sydney >> > > > NSW Australia >> > > > >> > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au >> > > > >> > > > Web Page with Michael Bath >> > > > >> > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page >> > > > >> > > >> <http://www.australiasevereweather.com>http://www.australiasevereweather.com>http://www.australiasevereweather.com >> >> > > > >> > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association >> > > > >> <http://www.severeweather.asn.au>http://www.severeweather.asn.au>http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> >> > > > >> > > > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body >> of your >> > > > message. >> > > > >> > > >> <-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au>mailto:-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> > > >> > > > >> > >> > ----------------------------------------- >> > Jimmy Deguara >> > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher >> > >> > from >> > Schofields, Sydney >> > NSW Australia >> > >> > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au >> > >> > Web Page with Michael Bath >> > >> > Australian Severe Weather Home Page >> > >> http://www.australiasevereweather.com >> > >> > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association >> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> > >> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> > message. >> > >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >----------------------------------------- >Jimmy Deguara >Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > >from >Schofields, Sydney >NSW Australia > >e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > >Web Page with Michael Bath > >Australian Severe Weather Home Page >http://www.australiasevereweather.com > >President of the Australian Severe Weather Association >http://www.severeweather.asn.au ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: tornado alley Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 01:25:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI All.
 
Just saw advert for a Tornado Alley tv doco on Sunday 7.30pm on Prime tv (7).
 
Bathurst
Dave
 
 
From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tornado alley Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 01:44:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2002 15:44:25.0407 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C972CF0:01C1F1F0] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Yep, ill be taping it :::::), I dont think ive seen this one before ::::::)

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HI All.
 
Just saw advert for a Tornado Alley tv doco on Sunday 7.30pm on Prime tv (7).
 
Bathurst
Dave
 
 
From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aus Wx" Subject: aus-wx: NZ winds Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:10:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It's hang onto your hats time!!! Issued by the MetService in New Zealand..... SEVERE WEATHER WARNING ISSUED BY MetService AT 8:33 am 03-May-2002 {MEDIA} MORE SEVERE GALES FORECAST FOR THE SOUTH Very strong and gusty west to southwesterly winds have been affecting parts of eastern Otago, Southland and Stewart Island this morning. MetService is expecting these winds to have eased in most places by midday, but is warning of another period of blustery westerlies in these areas again tomorrow (Saturday). West to southwesterly winds have been gusting up to 130 km/h in some places this morning, and similar wind gusts are forecast tomorrow, especially about coastal parts of Otago and Southland from Otago Peninsula southwards. Forecasters warn that winds of this strength can cause damage to trees, small buildings and lift loose roofing materials, as well provide difficult driving conditions to trucks, caravans and other motorists. Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Nice steady Rain in Sydney's North Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:20:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm receiving some nice steady rain at my place at the moment between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River. The Rain Guage only measures 1mm at the moment but hompefully the rain keeps up, the garden needs it! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:07:41 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey all I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are experiencing now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm not going to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet! However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest time one of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we are going to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months??? (surely not?). Anyone? Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: michael_wright at optusnet.com.au To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:06:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving me nuts Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it Historically recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south east winds in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing the sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bagust" To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > Hey all > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are experiencing > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm not going > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet! > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest time one > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we are going > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months??? (surely > not?). > > Anyone? > > Phil > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 12:02:35 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather Subject: aus-wx: Modeling Climate at Warp Speed Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/02may_supermodel.htm?list133999 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 12:00:08 May 3 Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 12:03:55 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 12:00:08 T:+21.4C H:46% Bar:1022hPa,Steady Wgst:5.1KT,002 Wavg:3.9KT,019 DP:+9.3C WC:+20C HIx:+24.2C Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+27.9C Hin:40% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 12:00:08 May 3 Temperature: +21.4 °C Humidity: 46 % Wind Speed (gust): 5.1 KT Wind Speed (average 1 minute): 3.9 KT Wind Direction: 002° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 019° Barometer: 1022 hPa and Steady Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: +9.3 °C Wind Chill: +20 °C Heat Index: +24.2 °C Indoor Temperature: +27.9 °C Indoor Humidity: 40 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.9 °C Wet Bulb Depression: +6.5 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 1512 meters. (4960 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08 Minimum Temperature: +21.4 °C at 12:00 Maximum Humidity: 62 % at 09:09 Minimum Humidity: 34 % at 11:28 Maximum Wind (gust): 7.7 KT, 24° at 11:29 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1022 hPa at 12:00 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09 Minimum Dew Point: +7.3 °C at 11:28 Minimum Wind Chill: +20 °C at 12:00 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.1 °C at 09:01 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02 Minimum Temperature: +10.4 °C at 06:34 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:56 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21 Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 08:59 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 17:21 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +18.3 °C at 07:56 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32 Minimum Wind Chill: +10 °C at 06:34 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.1 °C at 09:01 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: michael_wright at optusnet.com.au To: Subject: aus-wx: Maroochydore weather up date Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 12:54:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Updated: 12:00 PM EST on May 03, 2002
Observed at Maroochydore, Australia
Temperature 71° F / 22° C
Humidity 74%
Dew Point 63° F / 17° C
Wind SE at 23 mph / 37.0 km/h
Pressure 30.29 in / 1026 hPa
Conditions Unknown
Sunrise 06:09 AM (EST)
Sunset 05:13 PM (EST)
Moonrise 10:43 PM (EST)
Moonset 11:59 AM (EST)
Today
High: 73° F / 23° C Rain
Tonight
Low: 69° F / 21° C Chance of Rain
Saturday
High: 73° F / 23° C Rain
Saturday Night
Low: 69° F / 21° C Rain
Sunday
High: 75° F / 24° C Chance of Rain
Sunday Night
Low: 71° F / 22° C Scattered Clouds
Monday
High: 75° F / 24° C Clear
Monday Night
Low: 73° F / 23° C Clear
Tuesday
High: 75° F / 24° C Scattered Clouds
Tuesday Night
Low: 69° F / 21° C Chance of Rain
Wednesday
High: 73° F / 23° C Scattered Clouds
Wednesday Night
Low: 69° F / 21° C Scattered Clouds
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O_O



From: "Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:10:03 +1000
To: "Aus Wx" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: aus-wx: NZ winds


It's hang onto your hats time!!!

Issued by the MetService in New Zealand.....

SEVERE WEATHER WARNING
ISSUED BY MetService AT 8:33 am 03-May-2002
{MEDIA}
MORE SEVERE GALES FORECAST FOR THE SOUTH
Very strong and gusty west to southwesterly winds have been affecting parts
of eastern Otago, Southland and Stewart Island this morning. MetService is
expecting these winds to have eased in most places by midday, but is warning
of another period of blustery westerlies in these areas again tomorrow
(Saturday). West to southwesterly winds have been gusting up to 130 km/h in
some places this morning, and similar wind gusts are forecast tomorrow,
especially about coastal parts of Otago and Southland from Otago Peninsula
southwards. Forecasters warn that winds of this strength can cause damage to
trees, small buildings and lift loose roofing materials, as well provide
difficult driving conditions to trucks, caravans and other motorists.


Jane
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Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 3 Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 16:03:56 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 16:00:08 T:+20.7C H:48% Bar:1020hPa,Steady Wgst:2.8KT,054 Wavg:Calm,045 DP:+9.3C WC:+21C HIx:+24.2C Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+25.7C Hin:42% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 16:00:08 May 3 Temperature: +20.7 °C Humidity: 48 % Wind Speed (gust): 2.8 KT Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 054° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 045° Barometer: 1020 hPa and Steady Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: +9.3 °C Wind Chill: +21 °C Heat Index: +24.2 °C Indoor Temperature: +25.7 °C Indoor Humidity: 42 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.6 °C Wet Bulb Depression: +6.1 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 1424 meters. (4673 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08 Minimum Temperature: +19.8 °C at 15:30 Maximum Humidity: 62 % at 09:09 Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06 Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 16:00 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06 Minimum Wind Chill: +19 °C at 15:54 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.1 °C at 09:01 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02 Minimum Temperature: +10.4 °C at 06:34 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:56 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21 Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 08:59 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 17:21 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +18.3 °C at 07:56 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32 Minimum Wind Chill: +10 °C at 06:34 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +25.1 °C at 09:01 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 18:15:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This might be why. http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving me nuts > Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it Historically > recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south east winds > in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing the > sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Bagust" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > Hey all > > > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are experiencing > > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm not > going > > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet! > > > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest time one > > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we are going > > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months??? (surely > > not?). > > > > Anyone? > > > > Phil > > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 18:37:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2002 08:37:47.0417 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD69A090:01C1F27D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Keith That's a great synoptic shot. It appears that the other blocking high to the east of NZ is in break down phase - gradually being worn down by those lows to the west. Look at those tight isobars over southern NZ (whow !). Windy down there or what ????? Our blocking high over SE Aust. appears as a consequence of the whole set up. I expect a NE drift into the northern Tasman /southern Coral Sea with some fluctation in intensity over the next few days as lows try to push around the system to the south. Enjoying the heavy showery autumnal weather in SE QLD. Regards Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barnett" To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:15 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > This might be why. > > http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving me > nuts > > Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it > Historically > > recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south east > winds > > in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing the > > sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Phil Bagust" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > Hey all > > > > > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are > experiencing > > > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm not > > going > > > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet! > > > > > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest time > one > > > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we are > going > > > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months??? (surely > > > not?). > > > > > > Anyone? > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: michael_wright at optusnet.com.au To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 19:33:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Keith i guess thats why we are getting a lot of rain here that was a great shot chart. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Clarke" To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:37 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > Keith > > That's a great synoptic shot. > > It appears that the other blocking high to the east of NZ is in break down > phase - gradually being worn down by those lows to the west. > > Look at those tight isobars over southern NZ (whow !). Windy down there or > what ????? > > Our blocking high over SE Aust. appears as a consequence of the whole set > up. > > I expect a NE drift into the northern Tasman /southern Coral Sea with some > fluctation in intensity over the next few days as lows try to push around > the system to the south. > > Enjoying the heavy showery autumnal weather in SE QLD. > > Regards > Simon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Barnett" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:15 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > This might be why. > > > > http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving me > > nuts > > > Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it > > Historically > > > recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south east > > winds > > > in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing the > > > sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Phil Bagust" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > > > > Hey all > > > > > > > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are > > experiencing > > > > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm not > > > going > > > > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet! > > > > > > > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest time > > one > > > > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we are > > going > > > > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months??? > (surely > > > > not?). > > > > > > > > Anyone? > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at > www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > > > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 19:38:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes. There is a further intense depression south of the Falkland Islands and there appears to be some scope for the low south of the other blocking high to get a wriggle on and probably catch up with or be absorbed by that depression. This might all free up the traffic jam over NSW. I can recall occasions when prolonged spells of light winds in Sydney were followed by outbreaks of windy weather and a sizeable drop in the daily pressure readings, as if a statistical correction is taking place. So we shouldn't be surprised if winter arrives in the next 10 days, just like the last 2 years in May only a week or two earlier. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Clarke" To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:37 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > Keith > > That's a great synoptic shot. > > It appears that the other blocking high to the east of NZ is in break down > phase - gradually being worn down by those lows to the west. > > Look at those tight isobars over southern NZ (whow !). Windy down there or > what ????? > > Our blocking high over SE Aust. appears as a consequence of the whole set > up. > > I expect a NE drift into the northern Tasman /southern Coral Sea with some > fluctation in intensity over the next few days as lows try to push around > the system to the south. > > Enjoying the heavy showery autumnal weather in SE QLD. > > Regards > Simon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Barnett" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:15 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > This might be why. > > > > http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving me > > nuts > > > Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it > > Historically > > > recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south east > > winds > > > in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing the > > > sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Phil Bagust" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > > > > Hey all > > > > > > > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are > > experiencing > > > > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm not > > > going > > > > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet! > > > > > > > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest time > > one > > > > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we are > > going > > > > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months??? > (surely > > > > not?). > > > > > > > > Anyone? > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at > www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > > > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 19:46:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes Michael, all with the help of that upper trough that spawned a few Cbs off Sydney this morning. The maps by the way are from the NZ weather bureau site. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 7:33 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > Keith i guess thats why we are getting a lot of rain here > that was a great shot chart. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Clarke" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:37 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > Keith > > > > That's a great synoptic shot. > > > > It appears that the other blocking high to the east of NZ is in break down > > phase - gradually being worn down by those lows to the west. > > > > Look at those tight isobars over southern NZ (whow !). Windy down there or > > what ????? > > > > Our blocking high over SE Aust. appears as a consequence of the whole set > > up. > > > > I expect a NE drift into the northern Tasman /southern Coral Sea with some > > fluctation in intensity over the next few days as lows try to push around > > the system to the south. > > > > Enjoying the heavy showery autumnal weather in SE QLD. > > > > Regards > > Simon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Keith Barnett" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:15 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > This might be why. > > > > > > http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > > > > It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving me > > > nuts > > > > Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it > > > Historically > > > > recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south east > > > winds > > > > in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing the > > > > sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Phil Bagust" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey all > > > > > > > > > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are > > > experiencing > > > > > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm > not > > > > going > > > > > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet! > > > > > > > > > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest > time > > > one > > > > > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we are > > > going > > > > > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months??? > > (surely > > > > > not?). > > > > > > > > > > Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at > > www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > > > > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 20:00:08 May 3 Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 20:03:58 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 20:00:08 T:+15.1C H:97% Bar:1022hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,168 Wavg:Calm,168 DP:+14.6C WC:+15C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+21.9C Hin:62% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 20:00:08 May 3 Temperature: +15.1 °C Humidity: 97 % Wind Speed (gust): Calm Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 168° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 168° Barometer: 1022 hPa and Steady Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: +14.6 °C Wind Chill: +15 °C Heat Index: n.a. Indoor Temperature: +21.9 °C Indoor Humidity: 62 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +14.8 °C Wet Bulb Depression: + 00.3 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 62 meters. (205 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08 Minimum Temperature: +14.1 °C at 18:54 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 19:59 Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06 Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 16:51 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06 Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 18:59 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +21.8 °C at 19:36 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02 Minimum Temperature: +10.4 °C at 06:34 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:56 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21 Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 08:59 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 17:21 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +18.3 °C at 07:56 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32 Minimum Wind Chill: +10 °C at 06:34 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +21.8 °C at 19:36 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 21:42:38 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:47 PM 1/05/2002 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Tony, > > No, to put it bluntly you won't want to be here either, Sydney > is also going through a chronic stage of boring, calm, dry, dirty > weather. Add a few more cars than in Melbourne, a few more people and > that same bloody High and inversion layer and you have one very dirty > situation, not a breath of wind either. I suggest perhaps a trip > out Jimmy Deguaras way, i hear they have some severe fogs out there even > the odd 'superfog'...... Well, I've just returned from Sydney, and conditions were somewhat more pleasant than that. A very slight breeze (more of a breeze today, even the odd shower in the mountains). It is worth noting that when I left Melbourne yesterday morning, the inversion layer was clearly visible from the air. The low cloud like like it had been run over by a steamroller - there was literally nothing sticking up above that (very low) cap. Sydney had some small, puffy Cu to greet me on arrival. Got to see a few close up, and flew through one or two. The upper side of the cloud layer was a _lot_ more irregular than the "ironed flat" cloud of Melbourne. :-) >Regards. ( Ps). watch out for "THE CLOUD". !!!!!! Him and a lot of his mates were hanging around a lot in Sydney. ;-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 21:46:43 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 11:52 AM 2/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Maybe if we all gathered together on the east coat, with an oar, and of the >count of 3 ......shove! Huh :-) Hmm, since it's an air mass, perhaps we should all point our fans eastwards and blow the thing across to NZ ;) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: The Cloud (was aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain) Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 22:08:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >( Ps). watch out for "THE CLOUD". !!!!!! > > Him and a lot of his mates were hanging around a lot in Sydney. ;-) Has anyone noticed that 'The Cloud' disappears for quite a large part of the year (mainly storm season), and reappears regularly during autumn & winter in Australia and Hong Kong. That NSW forecaster who originally discovered the cloud & mentioned it to Michael Thompson has a bit to answer to when it comes to 'The Cloud' chases that we all go on in the "non-storm" season. Maybe this year the MSC site could host photos of 'The Cloud' when people see it - so if you do happen to spot 'The Cloud', feel free to email me a pic with the location, date & time details & we might do a bit of history this season...Tony, I don't spose you got any photos to start this project off with did you? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: very dry cold air Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 00:17:19 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting an air temperature of 2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7.
It is remarkable that an oceanic island can have such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the Antarctic
hence low humidity.
Steven W
 
From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: The Cloud (was aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain) Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 22:32:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey All. I'll keep a look out for the cloud once I have moved...should find it somewhere roaming the "Alley" Jimmy...keep ya eyes out too!!!! PaulY -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 22:09 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: The Cloud (was aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain) >( Ps). watch out for "THE CLOUD". !!!!!! > > Him and a lot of his mates were hanging around a lot in Sydney. ;-) Has anyone noticed that 'The Cloud' disappears for quite a large part of the year (mainly storm season), and reappears regularly during autumn & winter in Australia and Hong Kong. That NSW forecaster who originally discovered the cloud & mentioned it to Michael Thompson has a bit to answer to when it comes to 'The Cloud' chases that we all go on in the "non-storm" season. Maybe this year the MSC site could host photos of 'The Cloud' when people see it - so if you do happen to spot 'The Cloud', feel free to email me a pic with the location, date & time details & we might do a bit of history this season...Tony, I don't spose you got any photos to start this project off with did you? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 22:43:11 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: The Cloud (was aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 10:08 PM 3/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >( Ps). watch out for "THE CLOUD". !!!!!! >Maybe this year the MSC site could host photos of 'The Cloud' when >people see it - so if you do happen to spot 'The Cloud', feel free to >email me a pic with the location, date & time details & we might do a >bit of history this season...Tony, I don't spose you got any photos to >start this project off with did you? No, I don't, but I will keep an eye out for The Cloud from now on and take a few snaps. :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 22:47:18 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: RE: The Cloud (was aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul, The only cloud I'll look out for is a supercell whenever possible or one that will try developing into one!!!!! Jimmy Deguara At 10:32 PM 3/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hey All. > >I'll keep a look out for the cloud once I have moved...should find it >somewhere roaming the "Alley" > >Jimmy...keep ya eyes out too!!!! > >PaulY > >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill >Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 22:09 >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: The Cloud (was aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain) > > > >( Ps). watch out for "THE CLOUD". !!!!!! > > > > Him and a lot of his mates were hanging around a lot in Sydney. ;-) > >Has anyone noticed that 'The Cloud' disappears for quite a large part of >the year (mainly storm season), and reappears regularly during autumn & >winter in Australia and Hong Kong. That NSW forecaster who originally >discovered the cloud & mentioned it to Michael Thompson has a bit to >answer to when it comes to 'The Cloud' chases that we all go on in the >"non-storm" season. > >Maybe this year the MSC site could host photos of 'The Cloud' when >people see it - so if you do happen to spot 'The Cloud', feel free to >email me a pic with the location, date & time details & we might do a >bit of history this season...Tony, I don't spose you got any photos to >start this project off with did you? > >Jane > >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >Melbourne Storm Chasers >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >ASWA - Victoria >http://www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 00:20:29 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 21:28 1/05/02 +1200, you wrote: >Hi, >That high over SE Australia is rudely fowling our weather (NZ). Could you >shift a bit further east please. >I like autumn sunshine. South of the South island is getting it worst with >thunder and hail today and >snow down to 700m. Tomorrow, southwest gales and squally showers for >Invercargill. >Bye >Steven W Just come back home today (Thurs 2nd) to CHCH after a trip around the Southern mainly central South Island (bugger, I missed on on a thunderstorm in Invercargill today) After leaving a very soaked Christchurch on Monday morning (52mm falling here from 11pm on the Sun to 9am the next morning)and heading south, snow was noticed to about 400m on the hills. Roads were flooded around South Canterbury especially. As we were in central areas, Alex,Queenstown,Wanaka, it was quite sheltered although snow covered on many of the ranges and it was snowing over the Crown Range as we passed through yesterday. I see they have wind warnings for Southland and Otago tomorrow JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: michael_wright at optusnet.com.au To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:19:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey i think thats a great idea with the fan but don't you think newzaland is getting to much wind and rain. anyway we could give it a go hey. just to piss off that bocking high i think it's driving us all mad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:46 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain > At 11:52 AM 2/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >Maybe if we all gathered together on the east coat, with an oar, and of the > >count of 3 ......shove! Huh :-) > > Hmm, since it's an air mass, perhaps we should all point our fans eastwards > and blow the thing across to NZ ;) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: michael_wright at optusnet.com.au To: Subject: aus-wx: of topic Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:37:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
My luck has gone down the drain got layed off work fighting with my girlfriend what else can go wrong in the past two weeks a lot of things happen to mer and now back on the dol.
From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 00:00:08 May 4 Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 00:04:00 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 00:00:08 T:Error H:Error Bar:1021hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,086 Wavg:Calm,085 DP:Error WC:Error HIx:Error Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+19.8C Hin:63% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 00:00:08 May 4 Temperature: Error Humidity: Error Wind Speed (gust): Calm Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 086° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 085° Barometer: 1021 hPa and Steady Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: Error Wind Chill: Error Heat Index: Error Indoor Temperature: +19.8 °C Indoor Humidity: 63 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +14 °C Wet Bulb Depression: +0 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 0 meters. (0 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08 Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56 Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06 Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 16:51 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06 Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.6 °C at 21:56 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02 Minimum Temperature: +10.4 °C at 06:34 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:56 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21 Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 08:59 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 17:21 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +18.3 °C at 07:56 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32 Minimum Wind Chill: +10 °C at 06:34 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.6 °C at 21:56 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: No more please (Was aus-wx: of topic) Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:26:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Michael, Not wanting to sound rude, but can ya keep the personal things off the Aussie-wx email list. We had this same prob about 2 weeks ago, with a couple of emails asking to keep personal relationship type stuff off here. I'm sorry about your position and such, but please keep it weather related. If you need to talk to someone, try doing it through personal email...not list email, or maybe even call them. PaulY -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of michael_wright at optusnet.com.au Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 23:38 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: of topic My luck has gone down the drain got layed off work fighting with my girlfriend what else can go wrong in the past two weeks a lot of things happen to mer and now back on the dol. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 04:00:08 May 4 Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 04:04:01 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 04:00:08 T:Error H:Error Bar:1019hPa,Falling Wgst:Calm,067 Wavg:Calm,067 DP:Error WC:Error HIx:Error Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+19.2C Hin:65% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 04:00:08 May 4 Temperature: Error Humidity: Error Wind Speed (gust): Calm Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 067° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 067° Barometer: 1019 hPa and Falling Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: Error Wind Chill: Error Heat Index: Error Indoor Temperature: +19.2 °C Indoor Humidity: 65 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +14 °C Wet Bulb Depression: +0 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 0 meters. (0 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08 Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56 Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06 Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 04:00 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06 Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.6 °C at 21:56 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02 Minimum Temperature: +10.4 °C at 06:34 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:56 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21 Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 08:59 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 17:21 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +18.3 °C at 07:56 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32 Minimum Wind Chill: +10 °C at 06:34 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.6 °C at 21:56 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 08:00:08 May 4 Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 08:04:03 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 08:00:08 T:Error H:Error Bar:1020hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,067 Wavg:Calm,067 DP:Error WC:Error HIx:Error Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+20.5C Hin:65% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 08:00:08 May 4 Temperature: Error Humidity: Error Wind Speed (gust): Calm Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 067° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 067° Barometer: 1020 hPa and Steady Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: Error Wind Chill: Error Heat Index: Error Indoor Temperature: +20.5 °C Indoor Humidity: 65 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +14 °C Wet Bulb Depression: +0 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 0 meters. (0 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08 Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56 Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06 Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 05:51 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06 Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.6 °C at 21:56 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26.2 °C at 13:02 Minimum Temperature: +10.4 °C at 06:34 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 07:56 Minimum Humidity: 32 % at 13:21 Maximum Wind (gust): 9.6 KT, 143° at 14:54 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 08:59 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1020 hPa at 17:21 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +18.3 °C at 07:56 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:32 Minimum Wind Chill: +10 °C at 06:34 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 10:44 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +28.1 °C at 11:56 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +20.6 °C at 21:56 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 08:32:52 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Siren tornado and giant hail Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Nice imagery and link to the Siren event last year http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/misc/010619/010619.html Note the southern cell is noted by the NWS as having 4.5inch hail. ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 09:09:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Not surprising..this is the surface chart for  the system late last night..notice the very deep fetch of Antarctic air east from Long.170 E.
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:17 PM
Subject: aus-wx: very dry cold air

Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting an air temperature of 2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7.
It is remarkable that an oceanic island can have such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the Antarctic
hence low humidity.
Steven W
 
From: "Shane Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: SEQ Rain Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 09:47:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi All,

          Good rains last night driving to Surfers Paradise.  G/C Seaway recorded 33 mm to 9am this morning though 46 mm fell in the rain gauge in my suburb.

 

Overcast conditions still prevail so the chances are more than likely for continuing showers or drizzle areas today.

 

Regards Shane

 

Gold Coast Queensland

From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 12:49:58 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I think NZ came very close to some early snow. Interestingly at the moment campbell island has a temp of 1.9C
with a strong easterly, Christchurch has a temp of 25.2 with westerly. I think the cold sector though will
stay SE of NZ although I notice pressures are falling again over the South Island.
Steven W
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air

Not surprising..this is the surface chart for  the system late last night..notice the very deep fetch of Antarctic air east from Long.170 E.
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:17 PM
Subject: aus-wx: very dry cold air

Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting an air temperature of 2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7.
It is remarkable that an oceanic island can have such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the Antarctic
hence low humidity.
Steven W
 
From: "Andrew" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 11:51:53 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2002 01:53:27.0181 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B9923D0:01C1F30E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Keith, You seem to be suggesting that the traffic jam is caused by the weather in NSW....I would've thought it'd be due to the total lack of good quality roads in NSW.....(and i'd like to say just kidding but i can't)....hehe. Unfortunately the traffic jam in the weather is also affecting QLD, VIC and SA too. Cool to cold overnight but then fine and far far too sunny (although I shouldn't complain - these days are as near to perfect as you can get). Enjoy it (i think) while it lasts. The cold of winter is not far off. Macca ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barnett To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 7:38 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > Yes. There is a further intense depression south of the Falkland Islands and > there appears to be some scope for the low south of the other blocking high > to get a wriggle on and probably catch up with or be absorbed by that > depression. This might all free up the traffic jam over NSW. I can recall > occasions when prolonged spells of light winds in Sydney were followed by > outbreaks of windy weather and a sizeable drop in the daily pressure > readings, as if a statistical correction is taking place. So we shouldn't be > surprised if winter arrives in the next 10 days, just like the last 2 years > in May only a week or two earlier. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Clarke" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:37 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > Keith > > > > That's a great synoptic shot. > > > > It appears that the other blocking high to the east of NZ is in break down > > phase - gradually being worn down by those lows to the west. > > > > Look at those tight isobars over southern NZ (whow !). Windy down there or > > what ????? > > > > Our blocking high over SE Aust. appears as a consequence of the whole set > > up. > > > > I expect a NE drift into the northern Tasman /southern Coral Sea with some > > fluctation in intensity over the next few days as lows try to push around > > the system to the south. > > > > Enjoying the heavy showery autumnal weather in SE QLD. > > > > Regards > > Simon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Keith Barnett" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:15 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > This might be why. > > > > > > http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > > > > It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving me > > > nuts > > > > Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it > > > Historically > > > > recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south east > > > winds > > > > in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing the > > > > sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Phil Bagust" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey all > > > > > > > > > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are > > > experiencing > > > > > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm > not > > > > going > > > > > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet! > > > > > > > > > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest > time > > > one > > > > > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we are > > > going > > > > > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months??? > > (surely > > > > > not?). > > > > > > > > > > Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at > > www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > > > > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 12:00:36 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather Subject: aus-wx: US storm season. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For those interested in following US tornado events, the CoD has a data directory of all warnings and reports at http://weather.cod.edu/digatmos/spc/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 12:00:08 May 4 Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 12:04:12 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 12:00:08 T:+22.3C H:52% Bar:1019hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,256 Wavg:Calm,256 DP:+12C WC:+22C HIx:+24.5C Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+26.9C Hin:49% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 12:00:08 May 4 Temperature: +22.3 °C Humidity: 52 % Wind Speed (gust): Calm Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 256° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 256° Barometer: 1019 hPa and Steady Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: +12 °C Wind Chill: +22 °C Heat Index: +24.5 °C Indoor Temperature: +26.9 °C Indoor Humidity: 49 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +16.4 °C Wet Bulb Depression: +5.9 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 1287 meters. (4223 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26.8 °C at 11:48 Minimum Temperature: +18.9 °C at 09:21 Maximum Humidity: 87 % at 09:22 Minimum Humidity: 40 % at 11:48 Maximum Wind (gust): 4.7 KT, 150° at 10:18 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1021 hPa at 09:51 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 12:00 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 3 mm Maximum Dew Point: +17.8 °C at 09:25 Minimum Dew Point: +10.6 °C at 11:52 Minimum Wind Chill: +14 °C at 09:20 Maximum Heat Index: +26.8 °C at 11:48 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 11:59 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08 Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56 Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06 Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 05:51 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06 Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 11:59 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 12:26:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes Andrew I know what you mean! The meteorological version however looks like hanging around for a week according to 2 of the 3 7-day models. The 3rd one (GASP) has a deep tropical dip over eastern Australia, a deepening depression in the Coral Sea, and a Sydney forecast of rain next Friday, from which I assume this is the model the BoM prefers at this early stage. There's a complication in that the low west of Chile is cut off by a strong high at about Lat 60 as per the following: http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts/d/charts/deterministic/world/msl_uv8 50_z500!Wind%20850%20and%20mslp!120!South%20America!12!pop!od!oper!public_pl ots!latest!/ so there's a sort of split in the westerlies which appears to extend into the south Atlantic. So I guess until they all move down the centre of the bus we might have this present pattern continuing. I'll leave it to the upper air experts to comment on the role of the jet streams which will probably determine the final outcome and make a liar of me in the process... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew" To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:51 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > Keith, > > You seem to be suggesting that the traffic jam is caused by the weather in > NSW....I would've thought it'd be due to the total lack of good quality > roads in NSW.....(and i'd like to say just kidding but i can't)....hehe. > Unfortunately the traffic jam in the weather is also affecting QLD, VIC and > SA too. Cool to cold overnight but then fine and far far too sunny > (although I shouldn't complain - these days are as near to perfect as you > can get). > > Enjoy it (i think) while it lasts. The cold of winter is not far off. > > Macca > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Barnett > To: > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 7:38 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > Yes. There is a further intense depression south of the Falkland Islands > and > > there appears to be some scope for the low south of the other blocking > high > > to get a wriggle on and probably catch up with or be absorbed by that > > depression. This might all free up the traffic jam over NSW. I can recall > > occasions when prolonged spells of light winds in Sydney were followed by > > outbreaks of windy weather and a sizeable drop in the daily pressure > > readings, as if a statistical correction is taking place. So we shouldn't > be > > surprised if winter arrives in the next 10 days, just like the last 2 > years > > in May only a week or two earlier. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Simon Clarke" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:37 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > That's a great synoptic shot. > > > > > > It appears that the other blocking high to the east of NZ is in break > down > > > phase - gradually being worn down by those lows to the west. > > > > > > Look at those tight isobars over southern NZ (whow !). Windy down there > or > > > what ????? > > > > > > Our blocking high over SE Aust. appears as a consequence of the whole > set > > > up. > > > > > > I expect a NE drift into the northern Tasman /southern Coral Sea with > some > > > fluctation in intensity over the next few days as lows try to push > around > > > the system to the south. > > > > > > Enjoying the heavy showery autumnal weather in SE QLD. > > > > > > Regards > > > Simon > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Keith Barnett" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:15 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > > > > This might be why. > > > > > > > > http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > > > > > > > It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving > me > > > > nuts > > > > > Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it > > > > Historically > > > > > recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south > east > > > > winds > > > > > in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing > the > > > > > sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Phil Bagust" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey all > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are > > > > experiencing > > > > > > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm > > not > > > > > going > > > > > > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet! > > > > > > > > > > > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest > > time > > > > one > > > > > > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we > are > > > > going > > > > > > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months??? > > > (surely > > > > > > not?). > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > > > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at > > > www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > > > > > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > > your > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: rals7 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 13:20:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail Subject: Re: aus-wx: SEQ Rain X-Accept-Language: en Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good drenching for west Brisbane also.. my place took 28mm to 9am this morning. rals ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Williams" Date: Saturday, May 4, 2002 9:47 am Subject: aus-wx: SEQ Rain > Hi All, > Good rains last night driving to Surfers Paradise. G/C > Seawayrecorded 33 mm to 9am this morning though 46 mm fell in the > rain gauge > in my suburb. > > Overcast conditions still prevail so the chances are more than likely > for continuing showers or drizzle areas today. > > Regards Shane > > Gold Coast Queensland > ---------------- Powered by telstra.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne temps Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 13:38:53 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Afternoon all, Melbourne's record high for May is 28.7C. Melbourne temperature at 1330 was 25.3C and a couple of localities in the western suburbs are approaching 26C. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 16:16:16 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:49 4/05/02 +1200, you wrote: > I think NZ came very close to some early snow. Interestingly at the >moment campbell island has a temp of 1.9C with a strong easterly, >Christchurch has a temp of 25.2 with westerly. I think the cold sector 26.5C in my screen at 1246pm. NW wind JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 16:05:52 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: of topic Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 23:37 3/05/02 +1000, you wrote: > My luck has gone down the drain got layed off work fighting with my >girlfriend what else can go wrong in the past two weeks a lot of things >happen to mer and now back on the dol. I see ...and now you are suffering from 'Anticyclonic gloom' ??? JohnG NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 16:14:59 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 23:19 3/05/02 +1000, you wrote: >Hey i think thats a great idea with the fan but don't you think newzaland is >getting to much wind and rain. anyway we could give it a go hey. just to >piss off that bocking high i think it's driving us all mad No. we are getting bugger all here in Christchurch except for NW winds and warm temperatures. IT's only down south where the strong W to Sw gales are happening. It's stuffing up the Oyster catch. Boats can't get out from Bluff. Muttonbirds are dying because according to the media, not used to the windy conditions. JohnGaul >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" >To: >Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:46 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain > > >> At 11:52 AM 2/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >> >> >Maybe if we all gathered together on the east coat, with an oar, and of >the >> >count of 3 ......shove! Huh :-) >> >> Hmm, since it's an air mass, perhaps we should all point our fans >eastwards >> and blow the thing across to NZ ;) >> >> 73 de Tony, VK3JED >> http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Tristram" To: Subject: aus-wx: rain Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 15:39:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 33mm at Repton (Bellinger) after 28mm yesterday and a total of about 80mm from last Saturday. At last the sun is shining again and it's warming up. Peter +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 15:41:55 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Schofields Rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Looking at some of the totals, our rain totalled 23mm here in Schofields for April. ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "FreeWX_Automatic_Weather_Email" To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 16:04:08 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FreeWX 16:00:08 T:+18.4C H:80% Bar:1017hPa,Falling Wgst:Calm,078 Wavg:Calm,075 DP:+14.9C WC:+18C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+25.8C Hin:57% **************************************************** Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 16:00:08 May 4 Temperature: +18.4 °C Humidity: 80 % Wind Speed (gust): Calm Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 078° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 075° Barometer: 1017 hPa and Falling Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: +14.9 °C Wind Chill: +18 °C Heat Index: n.a. Indoor Temperature: +25.8 °C Indoor Humidity: 57 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +16.2 °C Wet Bulb Depression: +2.2 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 437 meters. (1434 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26.8 °C at 11:48 Minimum Temperature: +16.3 °C at 13:40 Maximum Humidity: 92 % at 13:45 Minimum Humidity: 40 % at 11:48 Maximum Wind (gust): 9.8 KT, 14° at 13:24 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1021 hPa at 09:51 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:00 Maximum Rainfall Rate: 32 mm/hour at 13:38 Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 7 mm Maximum Dew Point: +17.8 °C at 09:25 Minimum Dew Point: +10.6 °C at 11:52 Minimum Wind Chill: +14 °C at 13:37 Maximum Heat Index: +26.8 °C at 11:48 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08 Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56 Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06 Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 05:51 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09 Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06 Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42 Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08 Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 16:23:17 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id CAA01227 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Can we not receive so many of these a day please :) At 04:04 PM 4/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: >FreeWX 16:00:08 >T:+18.4C H:80% Bar:1017hPa,Falling Wgst:Calm,078 Wavg:Calm,075 >DP:+14.9C WC:+18C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+25.8C Hin:57% > >**************************************************** > >Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia >**************************************************** >Weather Conditions at 16:00:08 May 4 > >Temperature: +18.4 °C >Humidity: 80 % >Wind Speed (gust): Calm >Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm >Wind Direction: 078° >Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 075° >Barometer: 1017 hPa and Falling >Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour >Dew Point: +14.9 °C >Wind Chill: +18 °C >Heat Index: n.a. >Indoor Temperature: +25.8 °C >Indoor Humidity: 57 % >Wet Bulb Temperature: +16.2 °C >Wet Bulb Depression: +2.2 °C >Base Height of Cu Cloud: 437 meters. (1434 feet) > > >Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am > >Maximum Temperature: +26.8 °C at 11:48 >Minimum Temperature: +16.3 °C at 13:40 >Maximum Humidity: 92 % at 13:45 >Minimum Humidity: 40 % at 11:48 >Maximum Wind (gust): 9.8 KT, 14° at 13:24 >Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1021 hPa at 09:51 >Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:00 >Maximum Rainfall Rate: 32 mm/hour at 13:38 >Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 7 mm >Maximum Dew Point: +17.8 °C at 09:25 >Minimum Dew Point: +10.6 °C at 11:52 >Minimum Wind Chill: +14 °C at 13:37 >Maximum Heat Index: +26.8 °C at 11:48 >Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46 >Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21 > > >Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am > >Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08 >Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42 >Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56 >Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06 >Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34 >Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06 >Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 05:51 >Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil >Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm >Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09 >Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06 >Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42 >Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08 >Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46 >Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21 > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 16:40:57 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne temps Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 13:38 4/05/02 +1000, you wrote: >Afternoon all, > >Melbourne's record high for May is 28.7C. Melbourne temperature at 1330 >was 25.3C and a couple of localities in the western suburbs are >approaching 26C. > >Jane Warm in Christchurch today up to 26.5C at 12:46pm local time Where is this warm air coming from? JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 17:28:33 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 00:17 4/05/02 +1200, you wrote: > Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting an air temperature of >2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7. It is remarkable that an oceanic island >can have such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the Antarctic >hence low humidity. Steven W It's really stirring things up, Steven Not often we get a 'blocking high' over the SE of Australia and with that dry cold air, this is resulting with very deep lows - 946hPa in that low to the SE of NZ according to the 1800 3 May 2002 analysis weather map from MetService. No wonder it is windy down south of the South Island. ...but with a dry SW airstream, why is it windy and warm today here with the NW. If the anticyclone was to the east of NZ, you would expect these conditions? I'm not a metoeorologist but why is is warm with a blocking high to the west of the country (NZ) ? JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Schofields Rain Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 16:46:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Not much better for Seven Hills..26.2mm or just on the 25th percentile. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 3:41 PM Subject: aus-wx: Schofields Rain > Hi, > > Looking at some of the totals, our rain totalled 23mm here in Schofields > for April. > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 17:02:58 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 04:23 PM 4/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Can we not receive so many of these a day please :) I was going to say something, but I'll offer a suggestion: For those offering weather obs, why not put up a website and try and get some links from one or more of the major AU weather sites? The web is the perfect medium for real time weather obs. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Peter Tristram" To: Subject: aus-wx: repton rain again Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 17:14:01 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For Repton: 112mm in April, 62mm so far this month plus today's drenching - 698mm for the year so far- some coastal areas are considerably drier. This is half of last year's equivalent total, but only 350mm fell for the rest of the year. I hope this year is wetter. Peter +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 17:11:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I thought the one in question was automatically generated..does the owner know what it's doing? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:02 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 > At 04:23 PM 4/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >Can we not receive so many of these a day please :) > > I was going to say something, but I'll offer a suggestion: For those > offering weather obs, why not put up a website and try and get some links > from one or more of the major AU weather sites? The web is the perfect > medium for real time weather obs. :) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 15:26:03 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: The Cloud (was aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain) X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Unfortunately "The Cloud" has not turned up in Hong Kong this week. Neither have any of his mates. At this time of year we normally have 8/8 cloud most days which helps us to cope with the high humidity. But this week there has been sun, sun, more sun, and according to the HKO another five days with more sun to come. The next five days are predicted at 26-30C and 70-90%. Fair go! My nose is sunburnt enough all ready! So if any of you guys do happen to spot "The Cloud" please be kind enough to tell him and his mates that they are needed over here. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 22:08:32 +1000 Subject: The Cloud (was aus-wx: rain rain rain and more rain) > >( Ps). watch out for "THE CLOUD". !!!!!! > > > > Him and a lot of his mates were hanging around a lot in Sydney. ;-) > > Has anyone noticed that 'The Cloud' disappears for quite a large part > of > the year (mainly storm season), and reappears regularly during autumn & > winter in Australia and Hong Kong. That NSW forecaster who originally > discovered the cloud & mentioned it to Michael Thompson has a bit to > answer to when it comes to 'The Cloud' chases that we all go on in the > "non-storm" season. > > Maybe this year the MSC site could host photos of 'The Cloud' when > people see it - so if you do happen to spot 'The Cloud', feel free to > email me a pic with the location, date & time details & we might do a > bit of history this season...Tony, I don't spose you got any photos to > start this project off with did you? > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ashton H Anderson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 17:29:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Yes I must say I agree...it is great to know what is happening around our great country but it is far better to seek as you need...if that is a tad harsh I apologise !!
 
Ashton
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4

I thought the one in question was automatically generated..does the owner
know what it's doing?
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From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" <vk3jed-1 at optushome.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4


> At 04:23 PM 4/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>
> >Can we not receive so many of these a day please :)
>
> I was going to say something, but I'll offer a suggestion:  For those
> offering weather obs, why not put up a website and try and get some links
> from one or more of the major AU weather sites?  The web is the perfect
> medium for real time weather obs. :)
>
> 73 de Tony, VK3JED
> http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net
>


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From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 19:20:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes the owner knows what it is doing and is about to remove the emailing system off it. The obs can be obtained via www.mypage.tsn.cc/oriley ___________________________________ Glen O'Riley goriley at tsn.cc www.mypage.tsn.cc/oriley * Computer Repairs * Computer Sales * Computer Upgrades * Computer Networking * Computer Training * Web Page Construction * TV Antenna Installation * Livestock Work -------- Storm Chaser Firefighter SES Volunteer ACREM CB Radio Monitor Rail Fan _________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barnett" To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:11 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 > I thought the one in question was automatically generated..does the owner > know what it's doing? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:02 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 > > > > At 04:23 PM 4/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > > > >Can we not receive so many of these a day please :) > > > > I was going to say something, but I'll offer a suggestion: For those > > offering weather obs, why not put up a website and try and get some links > > from one or more of the major AU weather sites? The web is the perfect > > medium for real time weather obs. :) > > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: of topic Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 19:44:52 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2002 09:44:48.0003 (UTC) FILETIME=[54481D30:01C1F350] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Michael
 
Hope things get better for you soon.
 
Life is full of surprises (stop fighting though - that will help).
 
Best wishes
Simon
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:37 PM
Subject: aus-wx: of topic

My luck has gone down the drain got layed off work fighting with my girlfriend what else can go wrong in the past two weeks a lot of things happen to mer and now back on the dol.
From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: aus-wx: Weather Stations Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 19:49:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
I have noted with interest the recent discussion about Weather Stations. I have a Weather MAX from Maximum Inc in the U S A . I have had  and continue to experience  problems with it apparently related to the power supply. It seems to cause problems with the logic circuit  and display functions. The Display Unit has been back several times and a number of other componets have had to be replaced in the 2 years or so I have had it. My question is ;  have any other list member one of these units and what has been your experience with them?
In my last email I have virtually told them that I will return the whole set up if the gremlins can not be rectified.
They have an agent in Hobart but I doubt they have the facilities to do any repairs as my experience has not been too good so far.
Any ideas and comments would be most welcome.
Thanks
Gavin O'Brien
Southside Weather Watch
Canberra A.C.T.
From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 19:53:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2002 09:53:52.0314 (UTC) FILETIME=[98B761A0:01C1F351] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Again I agree, Unless this is particularly interesting to the list then it should not be posted. I had previously asked where the hell Kramach is and received no reply - so the info is meaningless. (Also Paul - I agree personal life and relationship type topics should kept off the list - but please don't be too hard on someone going through a hard time - maybe the list is a help to them at the moment). Regards Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 4:23 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 > Can we not receive so many of these a day please :) > > > At 04:04 PM 4/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >FreeWX 16:00:08 > >T:+18.4C H:80% Bar:1017hPa,Falling Wgst:Calm,078 Wavg:Calm,075 > >DP:+14.9C WC:+18C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+25.8C Hin:57% > > > >**************************************************** > > > >Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia > >**************************************************** > >Weather Conditions at 16:00:08 May 4 > > > >Temperature: +18.4 °C > >Humidity: 80 % > >Wind Speed (gust): Calm > >Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm > >Wind Direction: 078° > >Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 075° > >Barometer: 1017 hPa and Falling > >Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour > >Dew Point: +14.9 °C > >Wind Chill: +18 °C > >Heat Index: n.a. > >Indoor Temperature: +25.8 °C > >Indoor Humidity: 57 % > >Wet Bulb Temperature: +16.2 °C > >Wet Bulb Depression: +2.2 °C > >Base Height of Cu Cloud: 437 meters. (1434 feet) > > > > > >Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am > > > >Maximum Temperature: +26.8 °C at 11:48 > >Minimum Temperature: +16.3 °C at 13:40 > >Maximum Humidity: 92 % at 13:45 > >Minimum Humidity: 40 % at 11:48 > >Maximum Wind (gust): 9.8 KT, 14° at 13:24 > >Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1021 hPa at 09:51 > >Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:00 > >Maximum Rainfall Rate: 32 mm/hour at 13:38 > >Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 7 mm > >Maximum Dew Point: +17.8 °C at 09:25 > >Minimum Dew Point: +10.6 °C at 11:52 > >Minimum Wind Chill: +14 °C at 13:37 > >Maximum Heat Index: +26.8 °C at 11:48 > >Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46 > >Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21 > > > > > >Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am > > > >Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08 > >Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42 > >Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56 > >Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06 > >Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34 > >Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06 > >Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 05:51 > >Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil > >Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm > >Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09 > >Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06 > >Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42 > >Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08 > >Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46 > >Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21 > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > ================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > ================================================================== > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SEQ Rain Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 19:56:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2002 09:56:10.0364 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB0023C0:01C1F351] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all 42 mm in Bayside, Cleveland. But none since 9am despite the forecast. Brings the total to 97mm here since last Saturday. Regards Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "rals7" To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 1:20 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: SEQ Rain > > Good drenching for west Brisbane also.. my place took 28mm to 9am this > morning. > > rals > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shane Williams" > Date: Saturday, May 4, 2002 9:47 am > Subject: aus-wx: SEQ Rain > > > Hi All, > > Good rains last night driving to Surfers Paradise. G/C > > Seawayrecorded 33 mm to 9am this morning though 46 mm fell in the > > rain gauge > > in my suburb. > > > > Overcast conditions still prevail so the chances are more than likely > > for continuing showers or drizzle areas today. > > > > Regards Shane > > > > Gold Coast Queensland > > > > ---------------- > Powered by telstra.com > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Stations Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 20:25:50 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
No offence meant at all here but you get what you pay for. :-)
I spent up big, while I had the money and went for a Davis Monitor II which came with the rain gauge and datalogger for the computer download. Have not had any problems with it at all. I originally had a WM-918 which copped a direct lightning strike (no fault of the unit of course) and then got another which suffered from the same as the original. 201.6 kmh wind gusts on a nice steady day which also registered rain which never happened. But must admit I liked the weather "forecast" icon it produced.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Weather Stations

Hi all,
I have noted with interest the recent discussion about Weather Stations. I have a Weather MAX from Maximum Inc in the U S A . I have had  and continue to experience  problems with it apparently related to the power supply. It seems to cause problems with the logic circuit  and display functions. The Display Unit has been back several times and a number of other componets have had to be replaced in the 2 years or so I have had it. My question is ;  have any other list member one of these units and what has been your experience with them?
In my last email I have virtually told them that I will return the whole set up if the gremlins can not be rectified.
They have an agent in Hobart but I doubt they have the facilities to do any repairs as my experience has not been too good so far.
Any ideas and comments would be most welcome.
Thanks
Gavin O'Brien
Southside Weather Watch
Canberra A.C.T.
From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 23:59:46 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Perhaps it is cool and windy over most of NZ because the lunar southern declination is at this time centred over a longitude line situated between Australia and NZ; a relatively rare event. The moon has, in the last few days, been rising above a point just below New Caledonia and daily tracking east, in direct longitudinal line with NZ. Every southern hemisphere autumn the lunar southern declination occurs around Last quarter phase. The day of the Last quarter was yesterday May 4th. Coming within a few days of perigee, large earthquakes in this Pacific area have been more prevalent than usual, occurring in the Solomons(4.3mag on 2nd), Tonga(4.7mag on 3rd) and Fiji (5.8mag on 4th) as well as one per day in NZ since April 29. This number is unusually large. The windy southerlies started THE VERY DAY the moon began its northerly ascent a couple of days ago. If this is considered to be in the realm of coincidence then so also must each grand snowdump in Otago and S Canterbury last winter that also occurred immediately after the lunar southern declinations of the winter months of 2001. Ken Ring www.predictweather.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gaul" To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:28 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air > At 00:17 4/05/02 +1200, you wrote: > > Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting an air temperature of > >2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7. It is remarkable that an oceanic island > >can have such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the Antarctic > >hence low humidity. Steven W > ...but with a dry SW airstream, why is it windy and warm today here with > the NW. > If the anticyclone was to the east of NZ, you would expect these conditions? > I'm not a metoeorologist but why is is warm with a blocking high to the > west of the country (NZ) ? > JohnGaul > NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 22:46:07 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John, Tairoa head near Dunedin is reporting an average of 58kts at 2100NZST this evening. But on Thursday evening at the same time the average was 75kts. No wonder the Albatross like it so much there. Good for take off. Anyway today I notice the upper air was very warm over NZ, hence the high temps up the East coast. Timaru recorded 27C. In Auckland we had 7/8 Stratocu all day, no heating, so max was only 18C. Very cold air just to the south of the country will stay down there though don't expect a warm day Sunday. Cheers Steven W ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gaul" To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:28 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air > At 00:17 4/05/02 +1200, you wrote: > > Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting an air temperature of > >2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7. It is remarkable that an oceanic island > >can have such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the Antarctic > >hence low humidity. Steven W > > It's really stirring things up, Steven > Not often we get a 'blocking high' over the SE of Australia and with that > dry cold air, this is resulting with very deep lows - 946hPa in that low to > the SE of NZ according to the 1800 3 May 2002 analysis weather map from > MetService. > No wonder it is windy down south of the South Island. > ...but with a dry SW airstream, why is it windy and warm today here with > the NW. > If the anticyclone was to the east of NZ, you would expect these conditions? > I'm not a metoeorologist but why is is warm with a blocking high to the > west of the country (NZ) ? > > > JohnGaul > NZTS > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Stations Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 20:55:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Evening all,
 
I've had a Davis Weather Wizard since 2000 & haven't had a problem with it at all.  Very pleased at the reliability (I've checked it against the Scoresby AWS which gives me a reasonable indication, & also against the Kestrel & outdoor thermometer & Nylex rain gauge & do so on a regular basis).
 
If someone dropped some $$$ on my doorstep & told me that I had to spend it on weather equipment I'd go & buy a Davis Vantage Pro weather station & a Kestrel 4000 without thinking twice.  <g> 
 
The WM - 918  is made specifically for Dick Smith as far as I can determine. Not sure about their technical backup in Australia while Davis has local backup.
 
Jane

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Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com
 
Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com
 
ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Stations

No offence meant at all here but you get what you pay for. :-)
I spent up big, while I had the money and went for a Davis Monitor II which came with the rain gauge and datalogger for the computer download. Have not had any problems with it at all. I originally had a WM-918 which copped a direct lightning strike (no fault of the unit of course) and then got another which suffered from the same as the original. 201.6 kmh wind gusts on a nice steady day which also registered rain which never happened. But must admit I liked the weather "forecast" icon it produced.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Weather Stations

Hi all,
I have noted with interest the recent discussion about Weather Stations. I have a Weather MAX from Maximum Inc in the U S A . I have had  and continue to experience  problems with it apparently related to the power supply. It seems to cause problems with the logic circuit  and display functions. The Display Unit has been back several times and a number of other componets have had to be replaced in the 2 years or so I have had it. My question is ;  have any other list member one of these units and what has been your experience with them?
In my last email I have virtually told them that I will return the whole set up if the gremlins can not be rectified.
They have an agent in Hobart but I doubt they have the facilities to do any repairs as my experience has not been too good so far.
Any ideas and comments would be most welcome.
Thanks
Gavin O'Brien
Southside Weather Watch
Canberra A.C.T.
From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Stations Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 22:54:16 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Bussy, I am amused by your comment.I don't think I had much change out of $A2500 or so. Still I sent Maximum's tech quite a blast when he told me that most of their customers were happy with the WeatherMAX,it was cold comfort to me! I told him I was putting the issue up for discussion on the list What do the list  members think is a fair price and who has service centres here?
Gavin
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Stations

No offence meant at all here but you get what you pay for. :-)
I spent up big, while I had the money and went for a Davis Monitor II which came with the rain gauge and datalogger for the computer download. Have not had any problems with it at all. I originally had a WM-918 which copped a direct lightning strike (no fault of the unit of course) and then got another which suffered from the same as the original. 201.6 kmh wind gusts on a nice steady day which also registered rain which never happened. But must admit I liked the weather "forecast" icon it produced.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Weather Stations

Hi all,
I have noted with interest the recent discussion about Weather Stations. I have a Weather MAX from Maximum Inc in the U S A . I have had  and continue to experience  problems with it apparently related to the power supply. It seems to cause problems with the logic circuit  and display functions. The Display Unit has been back several times and a number of other componets have had to be replaced in the 2 years or so I have had it. My question is ;  have any other list member one of these units and what has been your experience with them?
In my last email I have virtually told them that I will return the whole set up if the gremlins can not be rectified.
They have an agent in Hobart but I doubt they have the facilities to do any repairs as my experience has not been too good so far.
Any ideas and comments would be most welcome.
Thanks
Gavin O'Brien
Southside Weather Watch
Canberra A.C.T.
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: very dry cold air Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 22:35:42 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
ha! imagine if melb. was currently located at long. 170w........... one can only imagine.
 
Thunda Hunta
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air

Not surprising..this is the surface chart for  the system late last night..notice the very deep fetch of Antarctic air east from Long.170 E.
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:17 PM
Subject: aus-wx: very dry cold air

Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting an air temperature of 2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7.
It is remarkable that an oceanic island can have such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the Antarctic
hence low humidity.
Steven W
 
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Blocking high blues Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 22:40:59 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com i consider ones interpretation of what constitutes a perfect day to be open to interpretation Thunda Hunta ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:21 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > Keith, > > You seem to be suggesting that the traffic jam is caused by the weather in > NSW....I would've thought it'd be due to the total lack of good quality > roads in NSW.....(and i'd like to say just kidding but i can't)....hehe. > Unfortunately the traffic jam in the weather is also affecting QLD, VIC and > SA too. Cool to cold overnight but then fine and far far too sunny > (although I shouldn't complain - these days are as near to perfect as you > can get). > > Enjoy it (i think) while it lasts. The cold of winter is not far off. > > Macca > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Barnett > To: > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 7:38 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > Yes. There is a further intense depression south of the Falkland Islands > and > > there appears to be some scope for the low south of the other blocking > high > > to get a wriggle on and probably catch up with or be absorbed by that > > depression. This might all free up the traffic jam over NSW. I can recall > > occasions when prolonged spells of light winds in Sydney were followed by > > outbreaks of windy weather and a sizeable drop in the daily pressure > > readings, as if a statistical correction is taking place. So we shouldn't > be > > surprised if winter arrives in the next 10 days, just like the last 2 > years > > in May only a week or two earlier. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Simon Clarke" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:37 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > That's a great synoptic shot. > > > > > > It appears that the other blocking high to the east of NZ is in break > down > > > phase - gradually being worn down by those lows to the west. > > > > > > Look at those tight isobars over southern NZ (whow !). Windy down there > or > > > what ????? > > > > > > Our blocking high over SE Aust. appears as a consequence of the whole > set > > > up. > > > > > > I expect a NE drift into the northern Tasman /southern Coral Sea with > some > > > fluctation in intensity over the next few days as lows try to push > around > > > the system to the south. > > > > > > Enjoying the heavy showery autumnal weather in SE QLD. > > > > > > Regards > > > Simon > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Keith Barnett" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:15 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > > > > This might be why. > > > > > > > > http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:06 AM > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > > > > > > > It Sort of bringing the flu, i say and the blocking high is driving > me > > > > nuts > > > > > Phil so i guess its here for a while now and i don't recall it > > > > Historically > > > > > recorded for this first time. what we need is a good strong south > east > > > > winds > > > > > in the mid upper level to pust all the shit out it's just bringing > the > > > > > sickness into my place.i hope i'm not whining to you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Phil Bagust" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:37 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blocking high blues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey all > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that its just human to imagine the the weather we are > > > > experiencing > > > > > > now is somehow extraordinary (when it probably isn't), and so I'm > > not > > > > > going > > > > > > to start whining about this persistent blocking pattern - yet! > > > > > > > > > > > > However, it got me thinking. Historically, what is the longest > > time > > > > one > > > > > > of these patterns has persisted? One month (I suspect not - we > are > > > > going > > > > > > to get close to that next week)? Two months? Three months??? > > > (surely > > > > > > not?). > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > > > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at > > > www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > > > > > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > > your > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Stations Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 23:08:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Jane ,
Thanks for the comment
Gavin
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Stations

Evening all,
 
I've had a Davis Weather Wizard since 2000 & haven't had a problem with it at all.  Very pleased at the reliability (I've checked it against the Scoresby AWS which gives me a reasonable indication, & also against the Kestrel & outdoor thermometer & Nylex rain gauge & do so on a regular basis).
 
If someone dropped some $$$ on my doorstep & told me that I had to spend it on weather equipment I'd go & buy a Davis Vantage Pro weather station & a Kestrel 4000 without thinking twice.  <g> 
 
The WM - 918  is made specifically for Dick Smith as far as I can determine. Not sure about their technical backup in Australia while Davis has local backup.
 
Jane

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Melbourne Storm Chasers
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ASWA - Victoria
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Stations

No offence meant at all here but you get what you pay for. :-)
I spent up big, while I had the money and went for a Davis Monitor II which came with the rain gauge and datalogger for the computer download. Have not had any problems with it at all. I originally had a WM-918 which copped a direct lightning strike (no fault of the unit of course) and then got another which suffered from the same as the original. 201.6 kmh wind gusts on a nice steady day which also registered rain which never happened. But must admit I liked the weather "forecast" icon it produced.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Weather Stations

Hi all,
I have noted with interest the recent discussion about Weather Stations. I have a Weather MAX from Maximum Inc in the U S A . I have had  and continue to experience  problems with it apparently related to the power supply. It seems to cause problems with the logic circuit  and display functions. The Display Unit has been back several times and a number of other componets have had to be replaced in the 2 years or so I have had it. My question is ;  have any other list member one of these units and what has been your experience with them?
In my last email I have virtually told them that I will return the whole set up if the gremlins can not be rectified.
They have an agent in Hobart but I doubt they have the facilities to do any repairs as my experience has not been too good so far.
Any ideas and comments would be most welcome.
Thanks
Gavin O'Brien
Southside Weather Watch
Canberra A.C.T.
X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 00:17:15 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: NSW ASWA meeting!!!!!!!!!!! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well, If there was going to be a send off for the US for myself and Matt Piper, this meeting did it. We had 27 people attending breaking the previous record of late 2000. People who attended really enjoyed the variety (video and presentations) and the excellent talk by Mal Ninnes. Wow!!! It was done professionally easily pitched at a level where people can understand. Well done and thanks to all those who attended (even from Port Macquarie): that make a person's hard work more worthwhile. To me this represented the true spirit of ASWA. For those that didn't attend - well you missed out on a spectacle. Hope you can make it to future meetings. A very blown away Jimmy. The ASWA hats are quite nice too - will come in handy in the US. ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 09:07:21 +1000 From: Paul Mirtschin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Tornado damage Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/Images/LaPlata_lrg.jpg New NASA Satellite Zooms in on Tornado Swath A number of severe thunder storms swept through the mid-Atlantic states on April 28, bringing high winds, hailstones, and heavy rains to many areas. The intense storms spawned at least two tornadoes, one of which was classified as an F5 funnel cloud--the most severe category, with winds in excess of 260 miles per hour (425 km per hour). The powerful tornado touched down in southern Maryland and ripped through the town of La Plata, destroying most of the historic downtown. The twister--the strongest ever recorded to hit the state and perhaps the strongest ever recorded in the eastern U.S.--flattened everything in its path along a 24-mile (39 km) swath running west to east through the state. The tornado's path can be seen clearly in this panchromatic image acquired on May 1 by the Advanced Land Imager (ALI), flying aboard NASA's EO-1 satellite. La Plata is situated toward the lefthand side of this scene and the twister's swath is the bright stripe passing through the town and running eastward 6 miles (10 km) toward the Patuxent River beyond the righthand side of the image. This stripe is the result of the vegetation flattened by the storm. The flattened vegetation reflects more light than untouched vegetation. EO-1 is the first Earth observing satellite launched as part of NASA's New Millennium Program. This program is designed to spearhead development and testing of a new generation of satellite remote sensing technologies for future Earth and space science missions. The ALI is designed to improve upon and extend the measurement heritage begun by the Landsat series of satellites well into the 21st Century. Image courtesy Lawrence Ong, EO-1 Mission Science Office, NASA GSFC -------------------------------------- Paul Mirtschin - Ph 0414 658 174 Designer - Writer paul at nothingdesign.com.au www.nothingdesign.com.au Kids, toys. Age is irrelevant. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 07:23:08 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From memory, Krambach is roughly halfway between Taree and Gloucester, but I haven't been up through that neck of the woods in at least thirty years. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Simon Clarke" To: Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 19:53:57 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 > Hi all > > Again I agree, Unless this is particularly interesting to the list then > it > should not be posted. > > I had previously asked where the hell Kramach is and received no reply > - so > the info is meaningless. > > (Also Paul - I agree personal life and relationship type topics should > kept > off the list - but please don't be too hard on someone going through a > hard > time - maybe the list is a help to them at the moment). > > Regards > Simon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Bath" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 4:23 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 > > > > Can we not receive so many of these a day please :) > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 4/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > > > >FreeWX 16:00:08 > > >T:+18.4C H:80% Bar:1017hPa,Falling Wgst:Calm,078 Wavg:Calm,075 > > >DP:+14.9C WC:+18C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+25.8C Hin:57% > > > > > >**************************************************** > > > > > >Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia > > >**************************************************** > > >Weather Conditions at 16:00:08 May 4 > > > > > >Temperature: +18.4 °C > > >Humidity: 80 % > > >Wind Speed (gust): Calm > > >Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm > > >Wind Direction: 078° > > >Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 075° > > >Barometer: 1017 hPa and Falling > > >Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour > > >Dew Point: +14.9 °C > > >Wind Chill: +18 °C > > >Heat Index: n.a. > > >Indoor Temperature: +25.8 °C > > >Indoor Humidity: 57 % > > >Wet Bulb Temperature: +16.2 °C > > >Wet Bulb Depression: +2.2 °C > > >Base Height of Cu Cloud: 437 meters. (1434 feet) > > > > > > > > >Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am > > > > > >Maximum Temperature: +26.8 °C at 11:48 > > >Minimum Temperature: +16.3 °C at 13:40 > > >Maximum Humidity: 92 % at 13:45 > > >Minimum Humidity: 40 % at 11:48 > > >Maximum Wind (gust): 9.8 KT, 14° at 13:24 > > >Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1021 hPa at 09:51 > > >Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:00 > > >Maximum Rainfall Rate: 32 mm/hour at 13:38 > > >Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 7 mm > > >Maximum Dew Point: +17.8 °C at 09:25 > > >Minimum Dew Point: +10.6 °C at 11:52 > > >Minimum Wind Chill: +14 °C at 13:37 > > >Maximum Heat Index: +26.8 °C at 11:48 > > >Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46 > > >Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21 > > > > > > > > >Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am > > > > > >Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08 > > >Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42 > > >Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56 > > >Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06 > > >Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34 > > >Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06 > > >Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 05:51 > > >Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil > > >Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm > > >Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09 > > >Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06 > > >Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42 > > >Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08 > > >Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46 > > >Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > ================================================================== > > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > > Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > > ================================================================== > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Low east of New Zealand Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 09:33:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, the low to the east of New Zealand got down to 936hPa yesterday morning and was 937hPa at 10pm AEST last night!! http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1200_analysis.asp Interesting southern hemisphere charts from the BoM Indian Ocean (12Z) http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/national/charts/OSPio2.shtml Pacific Ocean (12Z) http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/national/charts/OSPpo2.shtml Wonder what our climate would be like if you shifted Australia south by 15 degrees...... Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Shane Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: SEQ Rain Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 10:45:53 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, Overcast and rainy conditions again in SEQ yesterday though driving back from Brisbane last night, no rain fell till we hit Yatala. G/C Seaway till 3am this morning reported another 20 mm of rain. Thanks to the high near NSW, this system is directing a moist E to SE airflow onshore. Today its overcast but the showers seem to be hanging around offshore. Regards Shane Gold Coast Queensland -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon Clarke Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 7:56 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SEQ Rain Hi all 42 mm in Bayside, Cleveland. But none since 9am despite the forecast. Brings the total to 97mm here since last Saturday. Regards Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "rals7" To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 1:20 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: SEQ Rain > > Good drenching for west Brisbane also.. my place took 28mm to 9am this > morning. > > rals > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shane Williams" > Date: Saturday, May 4, 2002 9:47 am > Subject: aus-wx: SEQ Rain > > > Hi All, > > Good rains last night driving to Surfers Paradise. G/C > > Seawayrecorded 33 mm to 9am this morning though 46 mm fell in the > > rain gauge > > in my suburb. > > > > Overcast conditions still prevail so the chances are more than likely > > for continuing showers or drizzle areas today. > > > > Regards Shane > > > > Gold Coast Queensland > > > > ---------------- > Powered by telstra.com > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne temps Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:20:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2002 01:21:52.0251 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C8B84B0:01C1F3D3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good afternoon, John. A check of the soundings over NZ yesterday were interesting, showing a warm belt of air between 850hpa and 450hpa on the north side of the polar jet extension (relatively warm that is), over the northern part of the north island it was -13 at 500hpa and I think 9c at 850hpa, at the same time Sydney was -19c at 500hpa hence their unexpected heavy showers and hail in the middle of a surface high!. Anyway most of NZ was on the warm side of the polar jet, to the south just south of the south island it was much colder even at Chatham Is the 850 was -1c so it appears the jet was aligned southwest to northeast around that super low to your southeast (936hpa). With all this in mind there appears to have been some strong downward mixing of the upper warm air field especially leeward of the NZ mountains, standing waves could be seen on the sat pic leeward of any substantial mountain areas of NZ. The downward mixing would have helped warm the air even more as it warmed at the dry adiabatic rate, I presume humidity levels were relatively low in areas of high temps?.....The upper warm air belt has originated over Australia and the central Indian ocean and dragged around the grandfather high still annoying the southeast of Aus, although signs are there that this pattern is now starting to break up.. best wishes Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Gaul To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 2:40 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne temps > At 13:38 4/05/02 +1000, you wrote: > >Afternoon all, > > > >Melbourne's record high for May is 28.7C. Melbourne temperature at 1330 > >was 25.3C and a couple of localities in the western suburbs are > >approaching 26C. > > > >Jane > > Warm in Christchurch today > up to 26.5C at 12:46pm local time > Where is this warm air coming from? > > JohnGaul > NZTS > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 11:58:21 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather Subject: aus-wx: Interesting - pollution aerosol particles REDUCE rainfall potential Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NasaNews/2002/200205029305.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 08:30:01 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air X-X-Sender: robert at tornado.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Ken and all Could you just give me a quick run-down of a few terms that you've used here. > Perhaps it is cool and windy over most of NZ because the lunar southern > declination is at this time centred over a longitude line situated between > Australia and NZ; a relatively rare event. Lunar southern declination??? I guess you mean the moon is at its maximum southerly point from the equator? There is only one time in a month when the moon is at this point, which using an ephemeris program gives this southerly point as occuring early (NZ time) on May 2 (May 1 ~17UTC). And as you pointed out, from NZ, this occurs when the moon is almost crossing the longitude of NZ (or effectively highest in the sky). The moon stays within -1 arcminute of this point (ie variation in declination of 0.04% out of the total variation in declination for the moon) for 4 hours either side of May 2. Does this mean that 60 degrees of longitude either side of NZ will be affected by similar weather as over NZ.... Looking at the southern hemisphere MSLP chart shows otherwise: http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/shmslp.gif Perhaps a little simplistic of me to assume that??? > The moon has, in the last few days, been rising above a point just > below New Caledonia and daily tracking east, in direct longitudinal line > with NZ. I'm really confused here. Doesn't the moon rise over all sorts of positions depending from where you observe it from?? Perhaps you're talking about as seen from New Zealand....although looking at a planet plotting program shows that the moon will be rising in the east-southeast as seen from Christchurch, while New Caledonia is to the north?? > The day of > the Last quarter was yesterday May 4th. Coming within a few days of perigee, Perigee was on the morning of the 26th of April as shown by: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/pacalc.html so just over a week prior to last quarter. > large earthquakes in this Pacific area have been more prevalent than usual, > occurring in the Solomons(4.3mag on 2nd), Tonga(4.7mag on 3rd) and Fiji > (5.8mag on 4th) as well as one per day in NZ since April 29. This number is > unusually large. Really??? Looking at: http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/neis/qed/qed.html which shows the worldwide earthquakes over the past 30 days, shows for a 3 day period in April during the middle of apogee (when the moon is furthest from the earth): 9th April - mag 4.3 in Fiji, mag 3.9 off east coast of New Zealand, and a few smaller quakes in the north island of NZ. 10th April - mags 4.6, 4.9 and 5.9 in Vanuatu, mag 4.5 in Fiji again. 11th April - mag 5.0 off north island of NZ, mags 4.6, 4.7, 6.2, 5.5, 4.7, 4.8 in Vanuatu, mags 4.3 and 4.4 in Fiji, and a few more smaller ones on the north island of NZ. This is just focussing on the western Pacific region. So if anything, the current situation in the pacific region has been relatively quiet in terms of earthquakes! For the earthquakes in the last 5 days see here: http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/bulletin.html > The windy southerlies started THE VERY DAY the moon began > its northerly ascent a couple of days ago. The moon starts its northerly ascent after it reaches maximum southerly declination, which I mentioned in the very first paragraph occurs on May 1 ~17UTC. The southerlies over NZ began on 28 Apr, 18UTC initiated by the passage of a low pressure system, as seen in the MSLP chart for that time: http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/mslApr29-0900.gif Now if you're going to allow a 3 day leeway with this (28 Apr to 1 May), then there doesn't seem to be anything special with the time when the moon's most southerly declination lines up with it passing the longitude of NZ. Can anyone else help me out here? Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:42:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2002 01:43:46.0702 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C04D2E0:01C1F3D6] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Mr Ring. Your reply to what may be the trigger for the present windy situation and certain weather conditions over New Zealand is interesting, however, the position of the moon in respect to the location and development of such large scale and intensive weather systems is in my opinion rather grey, a simple check of the southern hemisphere synoptic charts and sat pics show similar intense weather systems i.e. about 40 south and 80 to 90 east (south Indian ocean) another at 40 to 60 south and a huge area of strong zonal westerly flow from 30 to 50 east and the very intense system at 30 to 60 south 160 east to 140 west ( the system you claim to have been triggered by the so called unusual accent of the moon) how then do you explain these other just as intense weather systems at other locations around the southern hemisphere or is this just coincidence as well... regards Clyve Herbert ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Ring To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 9:59 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air > Perhaps it is cool and windy over most of NZ because the lunar southern > declination is at this time centred over a longitude line situated between > Australia and NZ; a relatively rare event. The moon has, in the last few > days, been rising above a point just below New Caledonia and daily tracking > east, in direct longitudinal line with NZ. Every southern hemisphere autumn > the lunar southern declination occurs around Last quarter phase. The day of > the Last quarter was yesterday May 4th. Coming within a few days of perigee, > large earthquakes in this Pacific area have been more prevalent than usual, > occurring in the Solomons(4.3mag on 2nd), Tonga(4.7mag on 3rd) and Fiji > (5.8mag on 4th) as well as one per day in NZ since April 29. This number is > unusually large. The windy southerlies started THE VERY DAY the moon began > its northerly ascent a couple of days ago. If this is considered to be in > the realm of coincidence then so also must each grand snowdump in Otago and > S Canterbury last winter that also occurred immediately after the lunar > southern declinations of the winter months of 2001. > Ken Ring > www.predictweather.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Gaul" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:28 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air > > > > At 00:17 4/05/02 +1200, you wrote: > > > Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting an air temperature of > > >2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7. It is remarkable that an oceanic island > > >can have such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the Antarctic > > >hence low humidity. Steven W > > > ...but with a dry SW airstream, why is it windy and warm today here with > > the NW. > > If the anticyclone was to the east of NZ, you would expect these > conditions? > > I'm not a metoeorologist but why is is warm with a blocking high to the > > west of the country (NZ) ? > > > JohnGaul > > NZTS > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 17:52:06 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >how then do you explain these > other just as intense weather systems at other locations around the southern > hemisphere or is this just coincidence as well... regards Clyve Herbert My point exactly. The whole earth revolves 360 degrees under the moon in 24 hours, during which time the moon only moves 13 degrees east. The moon's effects are for all areas but will be monitored according to local orography. I would think the word 'coincidence' had no place in a science discussion and high incidence of unexplained correlation might be more useful. regards Ken Ring www.predictweather.com determine> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken Ring > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 9:59 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air > > > > Perhaps it is cool and windy over most of NZ because the lunar southern > > declination is at this time centred over a longitude line situated between > > Australia and NZ; a relatively rare event. The moon has, in the last few > > days, been rising above a point just below New Caledonia and daily > tracking > > east, in direct longitudinal line with NZ. Every southern hemisphere > autumn > > the lunar southern declination occurs around Last quarter phase. The day > of > > the Last quarter was yesterday May 4th. Coming within a few days of > perigee, > > large earthquakes in this Pacific area have been more prevalent than > usual, > > occurring in the Solomons(4.3mag on 2nd), Tonga(4.7mag on 3rd) and Fiji > > (5.8mag on 4th) as well as one per day in NZ since April 29. This number > is > > unusually large. The windy southerlies started THE VERY DAY the moon began > > its northerly ascent a couple of days ago. If this is considered to be in > > the realm of coincidence then so also must each grand snowdump in Otago > and > > S Canterbury last winter that also occurred immediately after the lunar > > southern declinations of the winter months of 2001. > > Ken Ring > > www.predictweather.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Gaul" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:28 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air > > > > > > > At 00:17 4/05/02 +1200, you wrote: > > > > Campbell island just south of NZ is reporting an air temperature of > > > >2.3C and a dewpoint of minus 7.7. It is remarkable that an oceanic > island > > > >can have such dry air. The cold air is being dredged off the Antarctic > > > >hence low humidity. Steven W > > > > > ...but with a dry SW airstream, why is it windy and warm today here with > > > the NW. > > > If the anticyclone was to the east of NZ, you would expect these > > conditions? > > > I'm not a metoeorologist but why is is warm with a blocking high to the > > > west of the country (NZ) ? > > > > > JohnGaul > > > NZTS > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 17:55:01 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Hi Ken and all > Could you just give me a quick run-down of a few terms that you've > used here. Sure. > Lunar southern declination??? I guess you mean the moon is at its maximum > southerly point from the equator? There is only one time in a month when > the moon is at this point, which using an ephemeris program gives this > southerly point as occuring early (NZ time) on May 2 (May 1 ~17UTC). And > as you pointed out, from NZ, this occurs when the moon is almost crossing > the longitude of NZ (or effectively highest in the sky). That's the one. > The moon stays within -1 arcminute of this point (ie variation in > declination of 0.04% out of the total variation in declination for the > moon) for 4 hours either side of May 2. Does this mean that 60 degrees of > longitude either side of NZ will be affected by similar weather as over > NZ.... Looking at the southern hemisphere MSLP chart shows otherwise: > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/shmslp.gif > Perhaps a little simplistic of me to assume that??? The best explanations are simple. > > The moon has, in the last few days, been rising above a point just > > below New Caledonia and daily tracking east, in direct longitudinal line > > with NZ. > > I'm really confused here. Doesn't the moon rise over all sorts of > positions depending from where you observe it from?? Perhaps you're > talking about as seen from New Zealand....although looking at a planet > plotting program shows that the moon will be rising in the east-southeast > as seen from Christchurch, while New Caledonia is to the north?? > > > > The day of > > the Last quarter was yesterday May 4th. Coming within a few days of perigee, > > Perigee was on the morning of the 26th of April as shown by: > http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/pacalc.html > so just over a week prior to last quarter. > > > > large earthquakes in this Pacific area have been more prevalent than usual, > > occurring in the Solomons(4.3mag on 2nd), Tonga(4.7mag on 3rd) and Fiji > > (5.8mag on 4th) as well as one per day in NZ since April 29. This number is > > unusually large. > > Really??? Looking at: > http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/neis/qed/qed.html > which shows the worldwide earthquakes over the past 30 days, shows for a 3 > day period in April during the middle of apogee (when the moon is > furthest from the earth): > > 9th April - mag 4.3 in Fiji, mag 3.9 off east coast of New Zealand, and a > few smaller quakes in the north island of NZ. > 10th April - mags 4.6, 4.9 and 5.9 in Vanuatu, mag 4.5 in Fiji again. > 11th April - mag 5.0 off north island of NZ, mags 4.6, 4.7, 6.2, 5.5, 4.7, > 4.8 in Vanuatu, mags 4.3 and 4.4 in Fiji, and a few more smaller ones on > the north island of NZ. > > This is just focussing on the western Pacific region. > So if anything, the current situation in the pacific region has been > relatively quiet in terms of earthquakes! > > For the earthquakes in the last 5 days see here: > http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/bulletin.html > > > > The windy southerlies started THE VERY DAY the moon began > > its northerly ascent a couple of days ago. > > The moon starts its northerly ascent after it reaches maximum southerly > declination, which I mentioned in the very first paragraph occurs on > May 1 ~17UTC. > > The southerlies over NZ began on 28 Apr, 18UTC initiated by the passage > of a low pressure system, as seen in the MSLP chart for that time: > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/mslApr29-0900.gif > > Now if you're going to allow a 3 day leeway with this (28 Apr to 1 May), > then there doesn't seem to be anything special with the time when the > moon's most southerly declination lines up with it passing the longitude > of NZ. > > > Can anyone else help me out here? > > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > School of Mathematical Sciences > PO Box 28M > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > -- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Fw: aus-wx: very dry cold air Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 18:06:09 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com oops sorry, pressed the send button prematurely > > Hi Ken and all > > Could you just give me a quick run-down of a few terms that you've > > used here. > Sure. > > > Lunar southern declination??? I guess you mean the moon is at its maximum > > southerly point from the equator? There is only one time in a month when > > the moon is at this point, which using an ephemeris program gives this > > southerly point as occuring early (NZ time) on May 2 (May 1 ~17UTC). And > > as you pointed out, from NZ, this occurs when the moon is almost crossing > > the longitude of NZ (or effectively highest in the sky). > That's the one. > > > The moon stays within -1 arcminute of this point (ie variation in > > declination of 0.04% out of the total variation in declination for the > > moon) for 4 hours either side of May 2. Does this mean that 60 degrees of > > longitude either side of NZ will be affected by similar weather as over > > NZ.... Looking at the southern hemisphere MSLP chart shows otherwise: > > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/shmslp.gif > > Perhaps a little simplistic of me to assume that??? The best explanations are simple. And I'd say yes, most southern hemisphere regions will be affected by the southern declination, but the SD lasts a couple of days because the moon's orbit is running parallel to that of earth and the moon has next to zero angular momentum. > > > I'm really confused here. Doesn't the moon rise over all sorts of > > positions depending from where you observe it from?? Perhaps you're > > talking about as seen from New Zealand....although looking at a planet > > plotting program shows that the moon will be rising in the east-southeast > > as seen from Christchurch, while New Caledonia is to the north?? I am talking about as seen from NZ. The difference between locations in the one country is only small due to the fast rotation of the earth. But it means the weather effects will be similar at the same longitude. > > > The day of > > > the Last quarter was yesterday May 4th. Coming within a few days of > perigee, > > Perigee was on the morning of the 26th of April as shown by: > > http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/pacalc.html > > so just over a week prior to last quarter. > > > large earthquakes in this Pacific area have been more prevalent than > usual, > > > occurring in the Solomons(4.3mag on 2nd), Tonga(4.7mag on 3rd) and Fiji > > > (5.8mag on 4th) as well as one per day in NZ since April 29. This number > is > > > unusually large. > > > > Really??? Looking at: > > http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/neis/qed/qed.html > > which shows the worldwide earthquakes over the past 30 days, shows for a 3 > > day period in April during the middle of apogee (when the moon is > > furthest from the earth): Sure. Pergiee and aopgee are interchangeable when it comes to triggering earthquakes. They both form the Apsidal Line. > > > The windy southerlies started THE VERY DAY the moon began > > > its northerly ascent a couple of days ago. > > The moon starts its northerly ascent after it reaches maximum southerly > > declination, which I mentioned in the very first paragraph occurs on > > May 1 ~17UTC. > > The southerlies over NZ began on 28 Apr, 18UTC initiated by the passage > > of a low pressure system, as seen in the MSLP chart for that time: > > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/mslApr29-0900.gif > > Now if you're going to allow a 3 day leeway with this (28 Apr to 1 May), > > then there doesn't seem to be anything special with the time when the > > moon's most southerly declination lines up with it passing the longitude > > of NZ. Oh well, back to coincidence then I suppose. Interesting though, when you look at last year's snow dumps and the winter before that and the winter before that. thanks for the discussion regards Ken Ring www.predictweather.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: CB radios on special Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:48:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For those of you who have been waiting for Uniden Pro 510-XL CB radios (the same as most of us have for use out in the field) to be on special before you bought one, Dick Smith is selling them for $88 till 29th May unless sold out before - probably the best price you'll ever see!! Worth buying one before the season gets underway!! -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Rosalina Champion" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:45:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dear Ken, It is just great for me to see you posting to the list. I hope to learn a lot more about long range forcasts by the moon from your postings. Regards, Rosalina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Ring" To: Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air > > > Hi Ken and all > > Could you just give me a quick run-down of a few terms that you've > > used here. > Sure. > > > Lunar southern declination??? I guess you mean the moon is at its maximum > > southerly point from the equator? There is only one time in a month when > > the moon is at this point, which using an ephemeris program gives this > > southerly point as occuring early (NZ time) on May 2 (May 1 ~17UTC). And > > as you pointed out, from NZ, this occurs when the moon is almost crossing > > the longitude of NZ (or effectively highest in the sky). > That's the one. > > > The moon stays within -1 arcminute of this point (ie variation in > > declination of 0.04% out of the total variation in declination for the > > moon) for 4 hours either side of May 2. Does this mean that 60 degrees of > > longitude either side of NZ will be affected by similar weather as over > > NZ.... Looking at the southern hemisphere MSLP chart shows otherwise: > > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/shmslp.gif > > Perhaps a little simplistic of me to assume that??? > The best explanations are simple. > > > > > The moon has, in the last few days, been rising above a point just > > > below New Caledonia and daily tracking east, in direct longitudinal line > > > with NZ. > > > > I'm really confused here. Doesn't the moon rise over all sorts of > > positions depending from where you observe it from?? Perhaps you're > > talking about as seen from New Zealand....although looking at a planet > > plotting program shows that the moon will be rising in the east-southeast > > as seen from Christchurch, while New Caledonia is to the north?? > > > > > > > The day of > > > the Last quarter was yesterday May 4th. Coming within a few days of > perigee, > > > > Perigee was on the morning of the 26th of April as shown by: > > http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/pacalc.html > > so just over a week prior to last quarter. > > > > > > > large earthquakes in this Pacific area have been more prevalent than > usual, > > > occurring in the Solomons(4.3mag on 2nd), Tonga(4.7mag on 3rd) and Fiji > > > (5.8mag on 4th) as well as one per day in NZ since April 29. This number > is > > > unusually large. > > > > Really??? Looking at: > > http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/neis/qed/qed.html > > which shows the worldwide earthquakes over the past 30 days, shows for a 3 > > day period in April during the middle of apogee (when the moon is > > furthest from the earth): > > > > 9th April - mag 4.3 in Fiji, mag 3.9 off east coast of New Zealand, and a > > few smaller quakes in the north island of NZ. > > 10th April - mags 4.6, 4.9 and 5.9 in Vanuatu, mag 4.5 in Fiji again. > > 11th April - mag 5.0 off north island of NZ, mags 4.6, 4.7, 6.2, 5.5, 4.7, > > 4.8 in Vanuatu, mags 4.3 and 4.4 in Fiji, and a few more smaller ones on > > the north island of NZ. > > > > This is just focussing on the western Pacific region. > > So if anything, the current situation in the pacific region has been > > relatively quiet in terms of earthquakes! > > > > For the earthquakes in the last 5 days see here: > > http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/bulletin.html > > > > > > > The windy southerlies started THE VERY DAY the moon began > > > its northerly ascent a couple of days ago. > > > > The moon starts its northerly ascent after it reaches maximum southerly > > declination, which I mentioned in the very first paragraph occurs on > > May 1 ~17UTC. > > > > The southerlies over NZ began on 28 Apr, 18UTC initiated by the passage > > of a low pressure system, as seen in the MSLP chart for that time: > > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/mslApr29-0900.gif > > > > Now if you're going to allow a 3 day leeway with this (28 Apr to 1 May), > > then there doesn't seem to be anything special with the time when the > > moon's most southerly declination lines up with it passing the longitude > > of NZ. > > > > > > Can anyone else help me out here? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > -- > > > > Robert A. Goler > > > > School of Mathematical Sciences > > PO Box 28M > > Monash University > > Clayton, Vic 3800 > > Australia > > > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > > email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free at yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 15:08:01 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 02:48 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >For those of you who have been waiting for Uniden Pro 510-XL CB radios >(the same as most of us have for use out in the field) to be on special >before you bought one, Dick Smith is selling them for $88 till 29th May >unless sold out before - probably the best price you'll ever see!! > >Worth buying one before the season gets underway!! Not a bad idea, and the price is good for a bit of short range communications. I am already suitably equipped, in case you're wondering. ;-) As for something to bridge the longer distances, I am making the cause of weather watchers and storm chasers more widely known. Stay tuned for any news (though it could take a while for anything to develop). 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 15:25:45 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Tony, Are you talking more along the lines of HF?? This is the way I am going to go as you should have much farther communication ability. Umm could someone with a better knowledge such as yourself and Glen O'Riley elaborate on the feasibility of HF communications, the licensing if any are required, and the cost of the unit? The clarity is also an issue so comment on this will also be appreciated. Jimmy Deguara At 03:08 PM 5/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: >At 02:48 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >>For those of you who have been waiting for Uniden Pro 510-XL CB radios >>(the same as most of us have for use out in the field) to be on special >>before you bought one, Dick Smith is selling them for $88 till 29th May >>unless sold out before - probably the best price you'll ever see!! >> >>Worth buying one before the season gets underway!! > >Not a bad idea, and the price is good for a bit of short range >communications. I am already suitably equipped, in case you're wondering. ;-) > >As for something to bridge the longer distances, I am making the cause of >weather watchers and storm chasers more widely known. Stay tuned for any >news (though it could take a while for anything to develop). > >73 de Tony, VK3JED >http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 15:58:50 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 03:25 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Are you talking more along the lines of HF?? This is the way I am going to >go as you should have much farther communication ability. > >Umm could someone with a better knowledge such as yourself and Glen >O'Riley elaborate on the feasibility of HF communications, the licensing >if any are required, and the cost of the unit? The clarity is also an >issue so comment on this will also be appreciated. HF is probably the best all round contender. As for how to get on HF, there's a few issues. You could possibly licence a frequency or two, or perhaps join forces with the 4WD or RFDS network (I have no ideas of the feasibility of this), but equipment costs are likely to be high. The other option is the amateur radio avenue. A lot of American chasers and spotters use amateur (ham) radio - there are whole nets which exist solely for reporting severe weather events. At this point in time, there are a few licencing issues. Amateur licences require a bit of study, but equipment wise, it can be cheaper to get on the air, if you use secondhand gear. The study is what I feel would be the biggest hurdle for many. However, the WIA is seeing to introduce a new entry level "Foundation" licence (with much simpler entrance requirements), and they are in the process of formulating the proposal to the ACA. I am hoping to raise awareness of the need for more "public service" operations (WICEN and severe WX activities), and am passing the word around that perhaps a couple of lower HF bands, plus VHF and UHF might the best all round mix for this new licence class (our VHF and UHF systems include linked repeaters and low speed data - I was able to access a repeater on the Mornington peninsula (70km away) from the Melbourne ASWA meeting last week, and if the storm videos weren't showing, I could have linked to the world from there. :-) ). Dunno how that will go, it's a bit of a long shot. One can only try... If the powers that be see my argument, it could mean a basic licence after a weekend course. Anyway, that's what's cooking here... 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 16:28:16 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tony, I am particularly interested in the HF system but could you guys in the know how look further into this and discuss the best solution considering our vast distances. 70km is perhaps possible in a flat region like Victoria but New South Wales most probably will have less range. What I would not want is for one group of people to go down one path and others go down another path later down the track. It would be better to standardize communications as that would mean it would gain wider acceptance by the weather spotter community. Second hand equipment is probably the most viable option here too. Could you discuss Tony what sort of range of typical coverage the various frequencies can achieve and the sorts of limitations they have. Jimmy Deguara At 03:58 PM 5/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: >At 03:25 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >>Are you talking more along the lines of HF?? This is the way I am going >>to go as you should have much farther communication ability. >> >>Umm could someone with a better knowledge such as yourself and Glen >>O'Riley elaborate on the feasibility of HF communications, the licensing >>if any are required, and the cost of the unit? The clarity is also an >>issue so comment on this will also be appreciated. > >HF is probably the best all round contender. As for how to get on HF, >there's a few issues. You could possibly licence a frequency or two, or >perhaps join forces with the 4WD or RFDS network (I have no ideas of the >feasibility of this), but equipment costs are likely to be high. The >other option is the amateur radio avenue. A lot of American chasers and >spotters use amateur (ham) radio - there are whole nets which exist solely >for reporting severe weather events. > >At this point in time, there are a few licencing issues. Amateur licences >require a bit of study, but equipment wise, it can be cheaper to get on >the air, if you use secondhand gear. The study is what I feel would be >the biggest hurdle for many. However, the WIA is seeing to introduce a >new entry level "Foundation" licence (with much simpler entrance >requirements), and they are in the process of formulating the proposal to >the ACA. I am hoping to raise awareness of the need for more "public >service" operations (WICEN and severe WX activities), and am passing the >word around that perhaps a couple of lower HF bands, plus VHF and UHF >might the best all round mix for this new licence class (our VHF and UHF >systems include linked repeaters and low speed data - I was able to access >a repeater on the Mornington peninsula (70km away) from the Melbourne ASWA >meeting last week, and if the storm videos weren't showing, I could have >linked to the world from there. :-) ). > >Dunno how that will go, it's a bit of a long shot. One can only >try... If the powers that be see my argument, it could mean a basic >licence after a weekend course. > >Anyway, that's what's cooking here... > >73 de Tony, VK3JED >http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 16:46:40 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Data or voice ? The thought occured to me that HF data packet would be the way to go. I don't think voice would be sensible in the long run if a network were set up. As most people who were interested would spend a few hundred on a radio come laptop setup using second hand (probably) ameteur gear, the possibility exists for a chaser to be able to transmit position data and reports in text formatted so that some software applications can plot it automatically on screen maps, as well as receive similar coded data from home based chase co-ordinators / helpers who are in a position to suck current data off the net, indeed, the chaser could probably do the same himself. The use of voice between chasers would seem to offer limited utility. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: gthurtel at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 17:29:06 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Geoff Thurtell Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW ASWA meeting!!!!!!!!!!! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I second Jimmy's comments about last night's NSW meeting. In particular, Mal Ninnes' presentation on meteorological radar answered some questions that I had in mind but had never had the time to look into. Mal: well researched, excellent presentation and just well done all round. You have raised the bar for ASWA technical presentations a notch or two. Thank you to all involved in last night's meeting. Let's maintain the standard (and improve upon it in the future!) Geoff Thurtell At 12:17 AM 5/05/02 +1000, you wrote: >Well, > >If there was going to be a send off for the US for myself and Matt Piper, >this meeting did it. We had 27 people attending breaking the previous >record of late 2000. People who attended really enjoyed the variety (video >and presentations) and the excellent talk by Mal Ninnes. Wow!!! It was >done professionally easily pitched at a level where people can understand. >Well done and thanks to all those who attended (even from Port Macquarie): >that make a person's hard work more worthwhile. To me this represented the >true spirit of ASWA. For those that didn't attend - well you missed out on >a spectacle. Hope you can make it to future meetings. > >A very blown away Jimmy. The ASWA hats are quite nice too - will come in >handy in the US. > >----------------------------------------- >Jimmy Deguara >Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > >from >Schofields, Sydney >NSW Australia > >e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > >Web Page with Michael Bath > >Australian Severe Weather Home Page >http://www.australiasevereweather.com > >President of the Australian Severe Weather Association >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Geoff Thurtell Schofields NSW +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 18:14:57 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 04:28 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >I am particularly interested in the HF system but could you guys in the >know how look further into this and discuss the best solution considering >our vast distances. 70km is perhaps possible in a flat region like >Victoria but New South Wales most probably will have less range. What I >would not want is for one group of people to go down one path and others >go down another path later down the track. It would be better to >standardize communications as that would mean it would gain wider >acceptance by the weather spotter community. Second hand equipment is >probably the most viable option here too. The amateur bands of most use would be 3.5 MHz (100km by day, 500km+ by night for mobile stations), 7 MHz (500km by day, more at night) and 10 MHz (good for up to 1000-1200km by day). I personally have used 7 MHz to keep in touch with Melbourne, which mobile all around Tasmania, with no difficulty. We even achieved a mobile to mobile contact, until the guy on the other end got swamped in noise (he was in Richmond (Melbourne) at the time, I was 20k N of Pt Arthur). >Could you discuss Tony what sort of range of typical coverage the various >frequencies can achieve and the sorts of limitations they have. The ARRL Handbook goes into quite a bit of detail. However, I'll try and give a brief rundown of the bands I would consider for our uses: At this stage, I'll look at the propagation characteristics of the bands, and their potential for use. We will have to discuss licencing at some stage... (why do I get the feeling I'm going to be a tutor somewhere? :) ). 80 metres (3.5 MHz). This band is affected by "D layer absorption" during the day, and has relatively limited range. In addition, mobile antennas are very inefficient here, so the end result is there is only around 100-150km maximum daylight range. At night, the range improves to > 500km, mobile to base. Atmospheric noise (particularly from storms!) can be high on this band. However, the 80 metre band does have the advantage of being available to Novice licencees (simpler exams). 80m may also be more useful for some night work. 40 metres (7 MHz). Reduced D layer absorption and more efficient mobile antennas make this band quite useful for regional mobile work. Mobile to base contacts of 500km are easily achieved (as mentioned, I had no problems maintaining contact with friends in Melbourne from anywhere in Tasmania - including central Hobart and the bottom of the Franklin River valley - which has 45 degree sides), and mobile to mobile contacts up to a few hundred km are not hard to achieve either. At night, the range of 40 metres increases considerably also, but shorter distances may be better covered on 80 metres. 30 metres (10 MHz). This band is the "intercapital" band for eastern Australia. 30 metres excels at the 700-800 km range, up to and exceeding 1000km, such as between the eastern capital cities. Mobile to mobile range exceeding 500km is possible (I have worked mobiles in South Australia from my mobile whips). Noise is much less of a problem up here. However, one issue with this band is the phenomenon of "skip" starts to appear, where stations between 50 and 400 km may not be heard at all. The "skip distance increases considerably at night, making the band less useful for our purposes then. 20 metres (14 MHz). The "DX band". 20 metres is the prime international band. Locally though, contacts from 600km and upwards are achievable. Mobile stations are very effective here. However, the large 600km skip distance makes this band less useful to chasers. The higher HF bands (up to 28 MHz) get more and more like 27 MHz CB as you go higher in frequency - shorter "local" range and longer skip distance. The higher power available to amateurs does give considerably longer "local range" on 28 MHz SSB than 27 MHz SSB. VHF and UHF Not to be discounted are the VHF and UHF bands. The most useful are 2 metres and 70cm. The higher power level of amateur stations and extensive repeater networks make VHF/UHF useful for up to 150km, depending on where you are. Traditional linked repeater networks may increase this to 300km in some areas, while IRLP allows interstate and global contacts to be made through the use of Internet links. Most VHF activity uses FM, which results in clearer audio (like UHF CB), and the 2m and 70cm bands are accessible by all licence classes. 2m and 70cm are also useful for convoy work, with > 20km mobile to mobile range often available. On a similar note, it would also be worth contacting our American friends, they're old hands at using the ham bands for weather spotting. :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 18:25:18 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 04:46 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Data or voice ? The thought occured to me that HF data packet would be >the way >to go. I don't think voice would be sensible in the long run if a network >were >set up. As most people who were interested would spend a few hundred on a >radio come laptop setup using second hand (probably) ameteur gear, the >possibility exists for a chaser to be able to transmit position data and >reports in text formatted so that some software applications can plot it >automatically on screen maps, as well as receive similar coded data from home >based chase co-ordinators / helpers who are in a position to suck current data >off the net, indeed, the chaser could probably do the same himself. The >use of >voice between chasers would seem to offer limited utility. The beauty of amateur comms is any mode can be used. However, I'd caution against the use of packet radio. The problem is that under chasing environments (i.e. with fat CGs going off nearby), corruption of packets is highly probably, due to higher HF noise levels. You'd be better off using Pactor, which is designed for HF conditions. The problem here is you're after an expensive box to make it work. Other non voice modes such as slow scan television may be useful to relay pictures and radar images. SSTV is an analogue system and is quite robust (a noise burst will usually only cause a few speckles on the picture). VHF is one area where data will be useful. VHF packet gear is cheap, and ex commercial VHF radios are cheap also. The limited range of VHF is less of a problem for data. One can have someone park on a nearby hill and act as a "digipeater" to link chasers to the rest of the network. APRS (Automatic Position Reporting System) is one data facility that I see having a lot of potential. APRS can keep track of mobile stations automatically, and those with access to suitable data (e.g. BoM radar) can add the position of objects of interest to the APRS map data, which can be displayed in the field on a laptop. The mobiles could do that as well. Put the location of that supercell onto our maps, so we can see where it is! :-) APRS may also give rise to the phenomenon of "armchair chasing", and anyone can get a "read only" connection to an APRS "IGate", and watch the data on their screen... I can just imagine the convos on #Weather! :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 19:03:47 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: 7.30pm tonight ! Channel 7 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dont forget, docco on storm chasers on channel 7 tonight at 7.30, footage looks great! Show is called "Tornado Alley", one to be taped! (i cant doh!) Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 19:47:12 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: 7.30pm tonight ! Channel 7 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:03 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Dont forget, docco on storm chasers on channel 7 tonight at 7.30, >footage looks great! >Show is called "Tornado Alley", one to be taped! (i cant doh!) Unfortunately, this is only on in regional areas. Melbourne and Sydney metro have different programming... Anyone able to record it? (and even better, convert to DivX? :) ). 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 18:44:56 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:14 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >VHF and UHF I forgot to mention that VHF and UHF often exhibit enhanced propagation when we get a monster high on top of us. Being able to work Tasmania from a handheld while wandering along the beach at Torquay helps any SDS one may have... :) Gives one something to do when we get a blocking high in the wrong place. :-) There is actually an index called the Hepburn index, which is a prediction of VHF/UHF propagation conditions, based on available weather data. http://www.iprimus.ca/~hepburnw/dx/hti.htm for info on the Hepburn index. And for Aus/NZ Hepburn predictions... http://www.iprimus.ca/~hepburnw/tropo_aus.html Hrmm, maybe I should be trying to contact Tassie, instead of typing away on a mailing list... the figures are up for tonight. This is the silver lining of a high. :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 20:36:13 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 7.30pm tonight ! Channel 7 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ahh ok tony i didnt know! It was sensational! Had heaps of footage from Roger Hill and Jeoff Piotrowski (sp), lots of footage from the last 2 years (lots you will recognise if you keep up with US chaser reports) and the last part of the program concentrated on the May 3 99 outbreak.. all in all, in my top 3 of wx/storm docco's! Matt Smith "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" wrote: > At 07:03 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >Dont forget, docco on storm chasers on channel 7 tonight at 7.30, > >footage looks great! > >Show is called "Tornado Alley", one to be taped! (i cant doh!) > > Unfortunately, this is only on in regional areas. Melbourne and Sydney > metro have different programming... Anyone able to record it? (and even > better, convert to DivX? :) ). > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 17:57:50 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: aus-wx: New Zealand Weather Forum Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com To any New Zealanders on this list, this is to let you know that there is a NZ Weather forum at http://tokaanuskihire.co.nz/forums/NZ_Weather/index.html of which you may be interested in. This is courtesy of Brian Hamilton, a NZ Met Soc member and dairy farmer at Awhita on the Manakau Peninsula in Auckland. JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Max King" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: 7.30pm tonight ! Channel 7 Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 21:12:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Peoples, I wasn't home and missed the doco Did anyone get it on vid? Rgds Max -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Smith Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2002 8:36 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 7.30pm tonight ! Channel 7 Ahh ok tony i didnt know! It was sensational! Had heaps of footage from Roger Hill and Jeoff Piotrowski (sp), lots of footage from the last 2 years (lots you will recognise if you keep up with US chaser reports) and the last part of the program concentrated on the May 3 99 outbreak.. all in all, in my top 3 of wx/storm docco's! Matt Smith "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" wrote: > At 07:03 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >Dont forget, docco on storm chasers on channel 7 tonight at 7.30, > >footage looks great! > >Show is called "Tornado Alley", one to be taped! (i cant doh!) > > Unfortunately, this is only on in regional areas. Melbourne and Sydney > metro have different programming... Anyone able to record it? (and even > better, convert to DivX? :) ). > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 21:18:33 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: 7.30pm tonight ! Channel 7 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:36 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Ahh ok tony i didnt know! > >It was sensational! Had heaps of footage from Roger Hill and Jeoff Piotrowski >(sp), lots of footage from the last 2 years (lots you will recognise if you >keep up with US chaser reports) and the last part of the program concentrated >on the May 3 99 outbreak.. all in all, in my top 3 of wx/storm docco's! Sounds like we missed out big time. :-( I would love to see it... bloody TV networks. :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 21:21:53 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:14 PM 5/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: >40 metres (7 MHz). Reduced D layer absorption and more efficient mobile >antennas make this band quite useful for regional mobile work. Mobile to >base contacts of 500km are easily achieved (as mentioned, I had no >problems maintaining contact with friends in Melbourne from anywhere in >Tasmania - including central Hobart and the bottom of the Franklin River >valley - which has 45 degree sides), and mobile to mobile contacts up to a >few hundred km are not hard to achieve either. At night, the range of 40 >metres increases considerably also, but shorter distances may be better >covered on 80 metres. So I think the best use is to have a variety of frequencies covered or is that affected by licencing? I like the 7 Mhz which I think was part of the band Glen told me about and I could hear clearly over the phone what the other person was saying!!!! So if we chose this band, is it generally the easiest? Please do not get too technical for us novices:))))) Just recommendations as to whether it is the most feasible in terms of getting one unit, and licensing. And Peter, as to using the packet radio concept for transmitting of data, I heard it is particularly slow? I am more interested in voice at this stage if what data transfer is very slow. Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 22:00:46 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:21 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >So I think the best use is to have a variety of frequencies covered or is >that affected by licencing? Ideally a range of frequencies. Lower for night, higher for daytime, but 7 MHz is a good starting point. >I like the 7 Mhz which I think was part of the band Glen told me about and >I could hear clearly over the phone what the other person was saying!!!! >So if we chose this band, is it generally the easiest? Please do not get >too technical for us novices:))))) Just recommendations as to whether it >is the most feasible in terms of getting one unit, and licensing. That sounds like 7 MHz. :-) As for licencing, I don't know the ins and outs of a commercial style licence - that would be rather expensive in terms of both licencing and equipment. The other alternative is the amateur licence, since weather spotting falls into the "public service" part of amateur radio. The downside here is you need to pass exams in radio theory, regulations and (for the next couple of years, at least), slow Morse Code. I'm one of the tutors for our club's study courses. >And Peter, as to using the packet radio concept for transmitting of data, >I heard it is particularly slow? I am more interested in voice at this >stage if what data transfer is very slow. Packet has its place. Should show you APRS one day. :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 22:15:32 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tony, I am quite reluctant to go on a course and to learn morse code personally and is why I don't really want to get involved in the amateur radio network. I am more interested in communicating long distances about storms and getting updates from bases. Well that's me I suppose - how about others' opinions? Jimmy Deguara At 10:00 PM 5/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: >At 09:21 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >>So I think the best use is to have a variety of frequencies covered or is >>that affected by licencing? > >Ideally a range of frequencies. Lower for night, higher for daytime, but >7 MHz is a good starting point. > >>I like the 7 Mhz which I think was part of the band Glen told me about >>and I could hear clearly over the phone what the other person was >>saying!!!! So if we chose this band, is it generally the easiest? Please >>do not get too technical for us novices:))))) Just recommendations as to >>whether it is the most feasible in terms of getting one unit, and licensing. > >That sounds like 7 MHz. :-) > >As for licencing, I don't know the ins and outs of a commercial style >licence - that would be rather expensive in terms of both licencing and >equipment. The other alternative is the amateur licence, since weather >spotting falls into the "public service" part of amateur radio. The >downside here is you need to pass exams in radio theory, regulations and >(for the next couple of years, at least), slow Morse Code. I'm one of the >tutors for our club's study courses. > >>And Peter, as to using the packet radio concept for transmitting of data, >>I heard it is particularly slow? I am more interested in voice at this >>stage if what data transfer is very slow. > >Packet has its place. Should show you APRS one day. :-) > >73 de Tony, VK3JED >http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 22:41:18 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 10:15 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Tony, > >I am quite reluctant to go on a course and to learn morse code personally >and is why I don't really want to get involved in the amateur radio >network. I am more interested in communicating long distances about storms >and getting updates from bases. Well that's me I suppose - how about >others' opinions? Well, the other avenue is a commercial frequency. The ACA would be your best bet to contact. Might be worth making contact with the RFDS and VKS-737 operators as well. I don't know if weather reporting would fall within the charter of their radio networks. I have no idea what a few HF land mobile frequencies costs, but the ACA should be able to help you on this. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: aus-wx: Canberra Minimum Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 04:56:38 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2002 18:57:49.0121 (UTC) FILETIME=[C02EAB10:01C1F466] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi All,
 Its finally happened, Canberra Ap has recorded its first negative temp of the Autumn. at 4:30am the temp had fallen below 0, to -0.1*c, almost a month late...The first negative temp usually happens around the second week of April, so this is well overdue...
 
its now 4:55am and the temp is 0.6*c, my personal thermo is currently at 1.9*c.

Cheers
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www.canberra-wx.com
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From: "Adam Mayo" To: "Australian Severe Weather" Subject: aus-wx: NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 07:26:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Just to let anyone who is interested know - our new e-mail is    oyam at ihug.com.au
 
Judy Mayo
From: "Adam Mayo" To: "Australian Severe Weather" Subject: aus-wx: To Everyone at the NSW ASWA Meeting on Saturday Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 07:24:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Just thought that you would all like to know that it turned out that Frank had a Migraine Headache along with being tired out from work. 
 
We have all come to the conclusion that it was brought on by the petrol fumes from the petrol that he stepped in at the service station.
 
This morning he has already left for work declaring himself fully recovered.
 
Thanks for your concern.
 
Judy Mayo
From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 08:36:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Already have been in contact and have application forms from them Tony. ___________________________________ Glen O'Riley goriley at tsn.cc www.mypage.tsn.cc/oriley * Computer Repairs * Computer Sales * Computer Upgrades * Computer Networking * Computer Training * Web Page Construction * TV Antenna Installation * Livestock Work -------- Storm Chaser Firefighter SES Volunteer ACREM CB Radio Monitor Rail Fan _________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:41 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special > At 10:15 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >Hi Tony, > > > >I am quite reluctant to go on a course and to learn morse code personally > >and is why I don't really want to get involved in the amateur radio > >network. I am more interested in communicating long distances about storms > >and getting updates from bases. Well that's me I suppose - how about > >others' opinions? > > Well, the other avenue is a commercial frequency. The ACA would be your > best bet to contact. Might be worth making contact with the RFDS and > VKS-737 operators as well. I don't know if weather reporting would fall > within the charter of their radio networks. > > I have no idea what a few HF land mobile frequencies costs, but the ACA > should be able to help you on this. > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 08:34:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 4wdrn have 5 channels ranging from 3995khz to 14977khz with base stations all over the country. The licensing (per radio I think) for them is $66 per year for an affiliated group and $77 for a non affiliated group. Their setup was originally for anyone whos car may break down or have a medical emergency way out beyond the blackstump. But it is for general licensed use now. I have heard a few people on the network but in general it is fairly quiete which means we should nearly always be able to get through. ___________________________________ Glen O'Riley goriley at tsn.cc www.mypage.tsn.cc/oriley * Computer Repairs * Computer Sales * Computer Upgrades * Computer Networking * Computer Training * Web Page Construction * TV Antenna Installation * Livestock Work -------- Storm Chaser Firefighter SES Volunteer ACREM CB Radio Monitor Rail Fan _________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 9:21 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special > At 06:14 PM 5/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >40 metres (7 MHz). Reduced D layer absorption and more efficient mobile > >antennas make this band quite useful for regional mobile work. Mobile to > >base contacts of 500km are easily achieved (as mentioned, I had no > >problems maintaining contact with friends in Melbourne from anywhere in > >Tasmania - including central Hobart and the bottom of the Franklin River > >valley - which has 45 degree sides), and mobile to mobile contacts up to a > >few hundred km are not hard to achieve either. At night, the range of 40 > >metres increases considerably also, but shorter distances may be better > >covered on 80 metres. > > > So I think the best use is to have a variety of frequencies covered or is > that affected by licencing? > > I like the 7 Mhz which I think was part of the band Glen told me about and > I could hear clearly over the phone what the other person was saying!!!! So > if we chose this band, is it generally the easiest? Please do not get too > technical for us novices:))))) Just recommendations as to whether it is the > most feasible in terms of getting one unit, and licensing. > > And Peter, as to using the packet radio concept for transmitting of data, I > heard it is particularly slow? I am more interested in voice at this stage > if what data transfer is very slow. > > Jimmy Deguara > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 08:35:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I also forgot to mention that I don't think the 4wdrn requires a test. ___________________________________ Glen O'Riley goriley at tsn.cc www.mypage.tsn.cc/oriley * Computer Repairs * Computer Sales * Computer Upgrades * Computer Networking * Computer Training * Web Page Construction * TV Antenna Installation * Livestock Work -------- Storm Chaser Firefighter SES Volunteer ACREM CB Radio Monitor Rail Fan _________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:15 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special > Hi Tony, > > I am quite reluctant to go on a course and to learn morse code personally > and is why I don't really want to get involved in the amateur radio > network. I am more interested in communicating long distances about storms > and getting updates from bases. Well that's me I suppose - how about > others' opinions? > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 10:00 PM 5/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >At 09:21 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > > >>So I think the best use is to have a variety of frequencies covered or is > >>that affected by licencing? > > > >Ideally a range of frequencies. Lower for night, higher for daytime, but > >7 MHz is a good starting point. > > > >>I like the 7 Mhz which I think was part of the band Glen told me about > >>and I could hear clearly over the phone what the other person was > >>saying!!!! So if we chose this band, is it generally the easiest? Please > >>do not get too technical for us novices:))))) Just recommendations as to > >>whether it is the most feasible in terms of getting one unit, and licensing. > > > >That sounds like 7 MHz. :-) > > > >As for licencing, I don't know the ins and outs of a commercial style > >licence - that would be rather expensive in terms of both licencing and > >equipment. The other alternative is the amateur licence, since weather > >spotting falls into the "public service" part of amateur radio. The > >downside here is you need to pass exams in radio theory, regulations and > >(for the next couple of years, at least), slow Morse Code. I'm one of the > >tutors for our club's study courses. > > > >>And Peter, as to using the packet radio concept for transmitting of data, > >>I heard it is particularly slow? I am more interested in voice at this > >>stage if what data transfer is very slow. > > > >Packet has its place. Should show you APRS one day. :-) > > > >73 de Tony, VK3JED > >http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 08:29:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Corruption is the word I was just about to say. I purchased a Kenwood TS/TK? 670 from Wyong Field Day this year which can do anywhere from 500khz - 29.990Mhz then the 6m band, it was a 86 model I think, the frequencies apart from 10m - 6m jump are unbroken so is usefull for both 27mhz and hf for $450. The unit is in the car with a bit of everything from road & marine cb to Anderson Air Force Base in America. Even though the unit is old it has made me happy and I would never own a straight 27mhz cb after it. It also has a channel & frequency scan. ___________________________________ Glen O'Riley goriley at tsn.cc www.mypage.tsn.cc/oriley * Computer Repairs * Computer Sales * Computer Upgrades * Computer Networking * Computer Training * Web Page Construction * TV Antenna Installation * Livestock Work -------- Storm Chaser Firefighter SES Volunteer ACREM CB Radio Monitor Rail Fan _________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 6:25 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special > At 04:46 PM 5/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >Data or voice ? The thought occured to me that HF data packet would be > >the way > >to go. I don't think voice would be sensible in the long run if a network > >were > >set up. As most people who were interested would spend a few hundred on a > >radio come laptop setup using second hand (probably) ameteur gear, the > >possibility exists for a chaser to be able to transmit position data and > >reports in text formatted so that some software applications can plot it > >automatically on screen maps, as well as receive similar coded data from home > >based chase co-ordinators / helpers who are in a position to suck current data > >off the net, indeed, the chaser could probably do the same himself. The > >use of > >voice between chasers would seem to offer limited utility. > > The beauty of amateur comms is any mode can be used. However, I'd caution > against the use of packet radio. The problem is that under chasing > environments (i.e. with fat CGs going off nearby), corruption of packets is > highly probably, due to higher HF noise levels. You'd be better off using > Pactor, which is designed for HF conditions. The problem here is you're > after an expensive box to make it work. > > Other non voice modes such as slow scan television may be useful to relay > pictures and radar images. SSTV is an analogue system and is quite robust > (a noise burst will usually only cause a few speckles on the picture). > > VHF is one area where data will be useful. VHF packet gear is cheap, and > ex commercial VHF radios are cheap also. The limited range of VHF is less > of a problem for data. One can have someone park on a nearby hill and act > as a "digipeater" to link chasers to the rest of the network. > > APRS (Automatic Position Reporting System) is one data facility that I see > having a lot of potential. APRS can keep track of mobile stations > automatically, and those with access to suitable data (e.g. BoM radar) can > add the position of objects of interest to the APRS map data, which can be > displayed in the field on a laptop. The mobiles could do that as > well. Put the location of that supercell onto our maps, so we can see > where it is! :-) APRS may also give rise to the phenomenon of "armchair > chasing", and anyone can get a "read only" connection to an APRS "IGate", > and watch the data on their screen... I can just imagine the convos on > #Weather! :-) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 08:37:28 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That is correct, but since a few buildings have been burned down, don't blink or you will miss it. I am always spending my time in Forster or Taree rather than here, it is boring as all hell. ___________________________________ Glen O'Riley goriley at tsn.cc www.mypage.tsn.cc/oriley * Computer Repairs * Computer Sales * Computer Upgrades * Computer Networking * Computer Training * Web Page Construction * TV Antenna Installation * Livestock Work -------- Storm Chaser Firefighter SES Volunteer ACREM CB Radio Monitor Rail Fan _________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 9:23 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 > From memory, Krambach is roughly halfway between Taree and Gloucester, > but I haven't been up through that neck of the woods in at least thirty > years. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Simon Clarke" > To: > Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 19:53:57 +1000 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 > > > Hi all > > > > Again I agree, Unless this is particularly interesting to the list then > > it > > should not be posted. > > > > I had previously asked where the hell Kramach is and received no reply > > - so > > the info is meaningless. > > > > (Also Paul - I agree personal life and relationship type topics should > > kept > > off the list - but please don't be too hard on someone going through a > > hard > > time - maybe the list is a help to them at the moment). > > > > Regards > > Simon > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael Bath" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 4:23 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 16:00:08 May 4 > > > > > > > Can we not receive so many of these a day please :) > > > > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 4/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > > > > > >FreeWX 16:00:08 > > > >T:+18.4C H:80% Bar:1017hPa,Falling Wgst:Calm,078 Wavg:Calm,075 > > > >DP:+14.9C WC:+18C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+25.8C Hin:57% > > > > > > > >**************************************************** > > > > > > > >Weather Observations For Krambach, NSW, Australia > > > >**************************************************** > > > >Weather Conditions at 16:00:08 May 4 > > > > > > > >Temperature: +18.4 °C > > > >Humidity: 80 % > > > >Wind Speed (gust): Calm > > > >Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm > > > >Wind Direction: 078° > > > >Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 075° > > > >Barometer: 1017 hPa and Falling > > > >Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour > > > >Dew Point: +14.9 °C > > > >Wind Chill: +18 °C > > > >Heat Index: n.a. > > > >Indoor Temperature: +25.8 °C > > > >Indoor Humidity: 57 % > > > >Wet Bulb Temperature: +16.2 °C > > > >Wet Bulb Depression: +2.2 °C > > > >Base Height of Cu Cloud: 437 meters. (1434 feet) > > > > > > > > > > > >Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am > > > > > > > >Maximum Temperature: +26.8 °C at 11:48 > > > >Minimum Temperature: +16.3 °C at 13:40 > > > >Maximum Humidity: 92 % at 13:45 > > > >Minimum Humidity: 40 % at 11:48 > > > >Maximum Wind (gust): 9.8 KT, 14° at 13:24 > > > >Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1021 hPa at 09:51 > > > >Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1017 hPa at 16:00 > > > >Maximum Rainfall Rate: 32 mm/hour at 13:38 > > > >Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 7 mm > > > >Maximum Dew Point: +17.8 °C at 09:25 > > > >Minimum Dew Point: +10.6 °C at 11:52 > > > >Minimum Wind Chill: +14 °C at 13:37 > > > >Maximum Heat Index: +26.8 °C at 11:48 > > > >Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46 > > > >Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21 > > > > > > > > > > > >Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am > > > > > > > >Maximum Temperature: +26 °C at 11:08 > > > >Minimum Temperature: +13.4 °C at 21:42 > > > >Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 21:56 > > > >Minimum Humidity: 33 % at 14:06 > > > >Maximum Wind (gust): 8.9 KT, 106° at 14:34 > > > >Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1023 hPa at 11:06 > > > >Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 05:51 > > > >Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil > > > >Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm > > > >Maximum Dew Point: +16.1 °C at 09:09 > > > >Minimum Dew Point: +6.5 °C at 14:06 > > > >Minimum Wind Chill: +13 °C at 21:42 > > > >Maximum Heat Index: +26.1 °C at 11:08 > > > >Maximum Indoor Temperature: +27 °C at 12:46 > > > >Minimum Indoor Temperature: +22.6 °C at 09:21 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > of > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > ================================================================== > > > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > > > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > > > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > > > Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > > > ================================================================== > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 11:28:51 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather Subject: aus-wx: Warning - ATM Scam Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Got this from my brother - (works for Westpac) - this morning Subject: FW: ATM Scam PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT The latest ATM scam involves thieves putting a thin, clear, rigid plastic 'sleeve' into the ATM card slot. When you insert your card, the machine can't read the strip, so it keeps asking you to re-enter your PIN number. Meanwhile, someone behind you watches as you tap in your number. Eventually you give up, thinking the machine has swallowed your card and you walk away. The thieves then remove the plastic sleeve complete with card, and empty your account. The way to avoid this is to run your finger along the card slot before you put your card in. The sleeve has a couple of tiny prongs that the thieves need to get the sleeve out of the slot, and you'll be able to feel them. The police would like as many people as possible to be aware of this scam, so pass this on to your friends. PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. Regards, Trevor Morgan ANZ Cash Management & Transaction Services 8th Floor 20 Martin Place, Sydney, NSW 2000 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 11:53:56 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warning - ATM Scam From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20011031 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Warning - ATM Scam Thankyou Peter.

I recieved this last week myself but have only one problem with it.
Since the machine cannot read your card, it will not ask for your pin number.
One card of mine was swallowed without even asking for the number.. it just went, mind you this was a few years ago and ive since worked out that the card was expired.

Nonetheless it is a warning to be heeded.

Regards, Dale



From: Peter Creswick <ventus45 at ihug.com.au>
Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 11:28:51 +1000
To: aussie-weather <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: aus-wx: Warning - ATM Scam


Got this from my brother - (works for Westpac) - this morning


Subject: FW: ATM Scam

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

The latest ATM scam involves  thieves putting a thin, clear, rigid
plastic 'sleeve' into the ATM  card slot. When you insert your card, the
machine can't read the  strip, so it keeps asking you to re-enter your
PIN number.

Meanwhile, someone behind you watches as you tap in your number.
Eventually you give up, thinking the machine has swallowed your card and
you walk away.

The thieves then remove the plastic sleeve complete with card, and empty
your account.

The way to avoid this is to run your finger along the card slot before
you put your card  in. The sleeve has a couple of tiny prongs that the
thieves need to get the  sleeve out of the slot, and you'll be able to
feel them.

The  police would like as many people as possible to be aware of this
scam, so pass this on to your friends.

PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO AS  MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.

Regards,
Trevor Morgan
ANZ Cash Management & Transaction Services
8th Floor
20 Martin Place,
Sydney, NSW 2000


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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 11:57:59 +1000 From: Paul Mirtschin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60) To: Peter Creswick Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warning - ATM Scam Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Peter Creswick Says: > Got this from my brother - (works for Westpac) - this morning A: It's a hoax. B: It's not weather related C: It's a worry when financial institutions fail to check facts that are related to equipment they use/run. -------------------------------------- Paul Mirtschin - Ph 0414 658 174 Designer - Writer paul at nothingdesign.com.au www.nothingdesign.com.au Kids, toys. Age is irrelevant. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 12:10:00 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather Subject: aus-wx: Aircraft Hailstrike - nice pics Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://aviation-safety.net/database/2001/010706-1.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warning - ATM Scam Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 12:17:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It's not a hoax - I just rang the bank and checked. Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- A: It's a hoax. B: It's not weather related C: It's a worry when financial institutions fail to check facts that are related to equipment they use/run. -------------------------------------- Paul Mirtschin - Ph 0414 658 174 Designer - Writer paul at nothingdesign.com.au www.nothingdesign.com.au Kids, toys. Age is irrelevant. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Northern Suburbs Sydney Monthly Rain Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 13:50:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here at my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River I received around 29.3 mm in April. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: meso at pop.iprimus.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 13:57:32 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Mal Ninnes Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW ASWA meeting!!!!!!!!!!! X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2002 03:53:04.0836 (UTC) FILETIME=[86A3E040:01C1F4B1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Jimmy and Geoff for the kind comments, and for everyone else that attended the other night. It was certainly a privilege to present a topic that I have been interested in for some time now, and great to see so many people turn up. Regards, Mal Ninnes At 05:29 PM 5/5/02 +1000, you wrote: >I second Jimmy's comments about last night's NSW meeting. > >In particular, Mal Ninnes' presentation on meteorological radar answered >some questions that I had in mind but had never had the time to look into. >Mal: well researched, excellent presentation and just well done all round. >You have raised the bar for ASWA technical presentations a notch or two. > >Thank you to all involved in last night's meeting. Let's maintain the >standard (and improve upon it in the future!) > >Geoff Thurtell > >At 12:17 AM 5/05/02 +1000, you wrote: >>Well, >> >>If there was going to be a send off for the US for myself and Matt Piper, >>this meeting did it. We had 27 people attending breaking the previous >>record of late 2000. People who attended really enjoyed the variety (video >>and presentations) and the excellent talk by Mal Ninnes. Wow!!! It was >>done professionally easily pitched at a level where people can understand. >>Well done and thanks to all those who attended (even from Port Macquarie): >>that make a person's hard work more worthwhile. To me this represented the >>true spirit of ASWA. For those that didn't attend - well you missed out on >>a spectacle. Hope you can make it to future meetings. >> >>A very blown away Jimmy. The ASWA hats are quite nice too - will come in >>handy in the US. >> >>----------------------------------------- >>Jimmy Deguara >>Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher >> >>from >>Schofields, Sydney >>NSW Australia >> >>e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au >> >>Web Page with Michael Bath >> >>Australian Severe Weather Home Page >>http://www.australiasevereweather.com >> >>President of the Australian Severe Weather Association >>http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>message. >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >Geoff Thurtell >Schofields NSW > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 22:52:40 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler Subject: Re: aus-wx: very dry cold air & earthquakes X-X-Sender: robert at tornado.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Err apologies if this email goes through twice, but it seems that this didn't get through the first time..... Forgive me for being anal-retentive here. > > > large earthquakes in this Pacific area have been more prevalent > > > than usual, occurring in the Solomons(4.3mag on 2nd), > > > Tonga (4.7mag on 3rd) and Fiji (5.8mag on 4th) as well as one > > > per day in NZ since April 29. > > Really??? Looking at: > > http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/neis/qed/qed.html > > which shows the worldwide earthquakes over the past 30 days, shows for a > > 3 day period in April during the middle of apogee (when the moon is > > furthest from the earth): > Sure. Pergiee and aopgee are interchangeable when it comes to triggering > earthquakes. They both form the Apsidal Line. I've plotted the number of earthquakes greater than or equal to mag 4 for the Pacific area around NZ from April 5 to May 4 (data available here: http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/neis/qed/qed.html ) on the following graph: http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/april_earthquakes.jpg (yeah I know, too much time on my hands) After April 30, just subtract 30 to get days in May. The times of lunar perigee (when the moon is closest to earth), and lunar apogee (moon furthest away) are also indicated, as obtained from: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/pacalc.html Note that in early May (on graph this corresponds to April 31,32,33,34) the number of earthquakes of mag 4 or more hasn't been extraordinarily great. In fact, it's been similar to the last 20 or so days, with 1-2 earthquakes per day. However, in Ken's original post he said that "...large earthquakes (magnitude greater than 4) in this Pacific area have been more prevalent than usual...", and then mentions earthquakes that occurred in May (see start of this email). Ken, what data are you basing this sentence on???? 1-2 earthquakes of mag 4 or larger in this whole region in a day doesn't sound all that more prevalant, particularly considering the large peak in the number of earthquakes around apogee in April. But in hindsight, I suppose you predicted that peak? So if you're inaccurate with that sentence I pointed out above, how many others have passed before this, and how many will follow??? Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 16:16:28 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: US tornadoes Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Unrelated to aussie weather, but more tornadoes have touched down in the mid west USA. Lots of chasers (including the likes of Tim Marshall and Carson Eads, Sam Barricklow, Al Moller, Bobby Eddins etc etc) caught a tornado that struck the south side of a town called "Happy", reports from wx-chase say that Tim got up close and personal... and that some people in the town may have died. Sirens sounded in the town 5 minutes before touchdown, no doubt due to spotter reports on the ground. All have described it as looking very much like the famous Pampa tornado. Anyway keep an eye out on the news today/tomorrow, might be some great up close footage. Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 18:04:48 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:29 AM 6/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Corruption is the word I was just about to say. I purchased a Kenwood TS/TK? >670 from Wyong Field Day this year which can do anywhere from 500khz - >29.990Mhz then the 6m band, it was a 86 model I think, the frequencies apart >from 10m - 6m jump are unbroken so is usefull for both 27mhz and hf for >$450. The unit is in the car with a bit of everything from road & marine cb >to Anderson Air Force Base in America. Even though the unit is old it has >made me happy and I would never own a straight 27mhz cb after it. It also >has a channel & frequency scan. Careful, I can see a problem here. That radio sounds like an amateur radio. If so, it is _NOT_ type approved for CB, 4WD or other HF networks, even though it is physically capable of transmitting there (with a minor modification). While it might be OK in an emergency, if you're found with the radio installed and "operational" (connected to power and an antenna), there is the potential for a fine of up to around $10,000. Type approved equipment is more expensive, but older crystal controlled HF radios for this kind of service can occasionally be found on the market. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 17:59:22 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:34 AM 6/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >4wdrn have 5 channels ranging from 3995khz to 14977khz with base stations >all over the country. The licensing (per radio I think) for them is $66 per >year for an affiliated group and $77 for a non affiliated group. Their setup >was originally for anyone whos car may break down or have a medical >emergency way out beyond the blackstump. But it is for general licensed use >now. I have heard a few people on the network but in general it is fairly >quiete which means we should nearly always be able to get through. This could be a good option. You just have to check on the fine print on the licence. However, it is the best option I've seen. Probably for chasing, the channels between 3.995 and 10 MHz would be the most useful. I don't know if you have to pass all traffic via an official base station, or if any of us would be allowed to setup our own base station, for direct passing of traffic. Worth checking into, the devil can be in the detail. :) On this subject, I've also posted a request for info into a generic radio mailing list, to see what others dig up. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 18:06:16 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warning - ATM Scam Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:17 PM 6/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >It's not a hoax - I just rang the bank and checked. Hmm, it has been reported as a hoax in other forums... I'd have to dig back through my other list mail... 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: More sunshine every day in Melbourne Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 18:53:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all!! An article in today's Melbourne Herald Sun discussed the warm start to May, which is currently pushing the record. The article pointed out that Melbourne's hours of daylight were also above average for May!! Worth keeping in mind if you travel to Melbourne - our days are getting longer!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: A false ' the cloud ' sighting. Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 19:28:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2002 09:19:01.0691 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F6F20B0:01C1F4DF] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Walked out at lunch today into brilliant sunshine and thought that I had spotted the cloud in the western sky. It was just a thin sliver of moon. Neither the cloud or any of his/her family made an appearance in Wollongong today. Michael +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 19:20:08 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: More sunshine every day in Melbourne From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20011031 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: More sunshine every day in Melbourne No offence Jane but i always thought you guys/gals down there were backwards :)~


Dale



From: "Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 18:53:46 +1000
To: "Aussie-wx" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: aus-wx: More sunshine every day in Melbourne


Evening all!!

An article in today's Melbourne Herald Sun discussed the warm start to
May, which is currently pushing the record.
The article pointed out that Melbourne's hours of daylight were also
above average for May!!

Worth keeping in mind if you travel to Melbourne - our days are getting
longer!!

Jane

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Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "John Graham" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: 7.30pm tonight ! Channel 7 Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 20:33:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max King" To: Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: 7.30pm tonight ! Channel 7 > Hi Peoples, > > I wasn't home and missed the doco > Did anyone get it on vid? > > > Rgds > Max > Same this way.....missed the start due to a demanding 2 y.o :((...can I get a copy off someone?? Thanks John from Ballina +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: aus-wx: Moon & earthquakes Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 00:18:03 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert and all > > > > large earthquakes in this Pacific area have been more prevalent > > > > than usual.. > I've plotted the number of earthquakes greater than or equal to mag 4 for > the Pacific area around NZ from April 5 to May 4 > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/april_earthquakes.jpg > (yeah I know, too much time on my hands) > Note that in early May (on graph this corresponds to April 31,32,33,34) > the number of earthquakes of mag 4 or more hasn't been extraordinarily > great. In fact, it's been similar to the last 20 or so days, with 1-2 > earthquakes per day. I suppose it depends on how one wants to look at the data. Let's just look at NZ. In the last 20 days, that is, leading up to today, 16 significant earthquakes have occurred in NZ alone. 9 have been since onset of perigee on April 26th, which is a 10 day period. That's 9 out of the 16 which is more than half. Before April 26th the bext back shake was in Taupo on April 21st. 4 have occurred in just the last 2 days. On average that would be 2 per day so for the 20 days should have been 40 if those occurring over southern declination were not more than normal. > So if you're inaccurate with that sentence I pointed out above, how many > others have passed before this, and how many will follow??? I think I've just shown that I wasn't inaccurate. More have occurred in the last few days than normal. That's all I actually said. I have taken your figure of 20 days and shown the recent ones to be in the greater number since southern declination began. There is no other window over the past 20 or even 30 days that have seen 4 to have occurred in 2 days. I guess accuracy is in the eye of the beholder. Surely 4 in 2 days (which has not occurred since February 13th) represents "more prevalent than usual". regards Ken Ring www.predictweather.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [165.228.129.11] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: My Coffs Harbour weather photos! Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 11:07:02 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2002 11:07:02.0598 (UTC) FILETIME=[265B0E60:01C1F4EE] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've managed to scan some of my weather photos from the last year or so. I've uploaded some of these photos to my geocities site. It needs a lot of development (it's still in the virtual directory format!), which will hopefully occur over the next few months. These three photos here are my favourites. I'll let you guys look at them and give me the verdict!! http://www.geocities.com/daves_weather/Photos/2001/211201_3.jpg http://www.geocities.com/daves_weather/Photos/2001/211201_4.jpg http://www.geocities.com/daves_weather/Photos/2001/211201_5.jpg Feel free to look at some of the others on there as well. I've got some radar loops of this particular storm which i'll upload in the next day or so. Enjoy!! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Convective (Cu) Cloud Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 21:03:17 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
Question.
 
My weather station (WM-918) has a display where it shows the "base hight of convective (Cu) cloud above local ground" shown in meters (& feet).
 
Does that mean the hight a cloud has to be before rain will fall?
And how does the weather station go about in coming to that hight?
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
  
From: "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Wet bulb question Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 21:15:29 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi again :)
 
Another question..
 
Is the "wet bulb temperature" the min. temperature the air can hold water at that point in time?
 
And what does the "wet bulb depression" mean?
 
:?
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
 
From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: My Coffs Harbour weather photos! Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 21:34:39 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com {: O WOW !!! Awesome photos.. Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: A false ' the cloud ' sighting. Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 22:17:37 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com it's over here!!! i saw it this afternoon on top of a heap of smoke. Thunda Hunta ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Thompson To: Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:58 PM Subject: aus-wx: A false ' the cloud ' sighting. > Walked out at lunch today into brilliant sunshine and thought that I had > spotted the cloud in the western sky. It was just a thin sliver of moon. > > Neither the cloud or any of his/her family made an appearance in Wollongong > today. > > Michael > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wet bulb question Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 22:37:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2002 12:38:21.0775 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8331DF0:01C1F4FA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi stargazer.
This question caused me a problem many years ago, so I went out and bought a wet bulb thermometer and played around with it i.e. I put tap water into the res, then distilled water even salt water and alcohol! and there were variations in the wet bulb temp for each, its a good way to see how a wet bulb works, what the wet bulb is showing is the amount of evaporation from the lint  i.e. the more evaporation the greater the departure from the dry bulb temp and with both you can work out the dew point and relative humidity.If the ambient air is moist there is less evaporation from the dry bulb and so the wet and dry bulb will be closer  in their respective readings and hence higher humidity. regards Clyve Herbert.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:45 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wet bulb question

Hi again :)
 
Another question..
 
Is the "wet bulb temperature" the min. temperature the air can hold water at that point in time?
 
And what does the "wet bulb depression" mean?
 
:?
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
 
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: aus-wx: 850 temps vs surface temps Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 22:38:09 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
is there a direct correlation between surface temps and 850 temps or does the difference vary too much?
X-Originating-IP: [211.28.29.139] From: "James Harris" To: Subject: aus-wx: Lightning ... Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 00:41:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2002 14:41:41.0665 (UTC) FILETIME=[22E0B910:01C1F50C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well you know the storm season is over when you properly get the chance to go through your footage and photos for the season. I have put below two captures of a lightning strike that occurred opposite to me at a park in St Ives (Sydney). The day is December 3 2001 and many high based storms moved through the city , this one causing a huge amount of damage to the North Shore thanks to the microburst winds accompanying it The first capture is of what I'm sure is a Lightning feeler .. the scary part being that it is less than 200 metres away: http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2001/lightning1.JPG The second capture is of the main strike that ended up connecting to another feeler on the other side of the trees: http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2001/lightning2.JPG I hadn't seen the footage slowed down before until now and find it quite fascinating just how things happen in the lead up before the main strike occurs. A Video of the Flang can be found at : http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2001/flang1.avi (WARNING - Its a big file .. I'm still learning how to make it smaller) James Harris +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wet bulb question Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 00:32:45 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thanks Clyve
 
:)
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wet bulb question

Hi stargazer.
This question caused me a problem many years ago, so I went out and bought a wet bulb thermometer and played around with it i.e. I put tap water into the res, then distilled water even salt water and alcohol! and there were variations in the wet bulb temp for each, its a good way to see how a wet bulb works, what the wet bulb is showing is the amount of evaporation from the lint  i.e. the more evaporation the greater the departure from the dry bulb temp and with both you can work out the dew point and relative humidity.If the ambient air is moist there is less evaporation from the dry bulb and so the wet and dry bulb will be closer  in their respective readings and hence higher humidity. regards Clyve Herbert.
From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wet bulb question Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 00:30:28 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Been reading some more.. I should try that more often ...  lol
 
:)
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
 
Taken from FreeWX  FAQ
 
· Wet-Bulb Temperature
 
Wet-bulb temperature is the temperature that would be measured by an ordinary liquid-in-glass thermometer with (1) water on its liquid-reservoir "bulb" (the "wet bulb"); and (2) air blowing steadily past it. It is the lowest temperature achievable solely by evaporating water into the air.
 
· Wet-Bulb Depression
 
Is the difference between the wet-bulb temperature and the outside (dry-bulb) temperature.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:15 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wet bulb question

Hi again :)
 
Another question..
 
Is the "wet bulb temperature" the min. temperature the air can hold water at that point in time?
 
And what does the "wet bulb depression" mean?
 
:?
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
 
From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Convective (Cu) Cloud Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 00:30:13 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
 
Hehe.. it's funny what u can find out if u read the instructions first - Doh!
 
:)
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
 
Taken from FreeWX  FAQ
 
· Base height of convective cloud
 
As a parcel of air rises (convection), it expands in the lowering air pressure, causing it to cool and reducing its ability to hold moisture. At some point the moisture in the air exceeds that which can be held, forcing the water vapor to condense, forming clouds. Given the current dew point and temperature it is possible to calculate the altitude at which this condensation occurs.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Convective (Cu) Cloud

Hi all,
 
Question.
 
My weather station (WM-918) has a display where it shows the "base hight of convective (Cu) cloud above local ground" shown in meters (& feet).
 
Does that mean the hight a cloud has to be before rain will fall?
And how does the weather station go about in coming to that hight?
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
  
User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 07:56:27 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: A false ' the cloud ' sighting. From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20011031 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: A false ' the cloud ' sighting. That is strange, approximately 0530AEST this morning, i thought i had a sighting of the cloud so i ran back inside work to get my camera. As i came outside again, what i had thought to be the cloud was still there and it then changed its appearance.

This was when i realised that it was a condensation plume from the factory across the road.

=(




From: "richard modistach" <hambone at dodo.com.au>
Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 22:17:37 +0930
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Subject: Fw: aus-wx: A false ' the cloud ' sighting.


it's over here!!! i saw it this afternoon on top of  a heap of smoke.

Thunda Hunta


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To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: aus-wx: A false ' the cloud ' sighting.


> Walked out at lunch today into brilliant sunshine and thought that I had
> spotted the cloud in the western sky. It was just a thin sliver of moon.
>
> Neither the cloud or any of his/her family made an appearance in
Wollongong
> today.
>
> Michael
>
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From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 08:27:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I don't think base stations are "officially" allowed, but if it was licensed and treated as a mobile but is really a base, noone is really the wiser about it. I have heard units talking without the base station so it seems to be an open net group. ___________________________________ Glen O'Riley goriley at tsn.cc www.mypage.tsn.cc/oriley * Computer Repairs * Computer Sales * Computer Upgrades * Computer Networking * Computer Training * Web Page Construction * TV Antenna Installation * Livestock Work -------- Storm Chaser Firefighter SES Volunteer ACREM CB Radio Monitor Rail Fan _________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 5:59 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special > At 08:34 AM 6/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >4wdrn have 5 channels ranging from 3995khz to 14977khz with base stations > >all over the country. The licensing (per radio I think) for them is $66 per > >year for an affiliated group and $77 for a non affiliated group. Their setup > >was originally for anyone whos car may break down or have a medical > >emergency way out beyond the blackstump. But it is for general licensed use > >now. I have heard a few people on the network but in general it is fairly > >quiete which means we should nearly always be able to get through. > > This could be a good option. You just have to check on the fine print on > the licence. However, it is the best option I've seen. Probably for > chasing, the channels between 3.995 and 10 MHz would be the most useful. > > I don't know if you have to pass all traffic via an official base station, > or if any of us would be allowed to setup our own base station, for direct > passing of traffic. Worth checking into, the devil can be in the detail. :) > > On this subject, I've also posted a request for info into a generic radio > mailing list, to see what others dig up. > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 08:25:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yeah, it is an amateur radio modified for the lot. I am just not stupid enough to stuff around too much with it. As one of the RI's himself told me, "If you act like a normal citizen and behave yourself, we don't know you have it". So rather than transmitting all over the commercial and defence force frequencies, I only listen and keep 1mhz either side of 27mhz and any other licenses I may pick up later. ___________________________________ Glen O'Riley goriley at tsn.cc www.mypage.tsn.cc/oriley * Computer Repairs * Computer Sales * Computer Upgrades * Computer Networking * Computer Training * Web Page Construction * TV Antenna Installation * Livestock Work -------- Storm Chaser Firefighter SES Volunteer ACREM CB Radio Monitor Rail Fan _________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:04 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special > At 08:29 AM 6/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >Corruption is the word I was just about to say. I purchased a Kenwood TS/TK? > >670 from Wyong Field Day this year which can do anywhere from 500khz - > >29.990Mhz then the 6m band, it was a 86 model I think, the frequencies apart > >from 10m - 6m jump are unbroken so is usefull for both 27mhz and hf for > >$450. The unit is in the car with a bit of everything from road & marine cb > >to Anderson Air Force Base in America. Even though the unit is old it has > >made me happy and I would never own a straight 27mhz cb after it. It also > >has a channel & frequency scan. > > Careful, I can see a problem here. That radio sounds like an amateur > radio. If so, it is _NOT_ type approved for CB, 4WD or other HF networks, > even though it is physically capable of transmitting there (with a minor > modification). While it might be OK in an emergency, if you're found with > the radio installed and "operational" (connected to power and an antenna), > there is the potential for a fine of up to around $10,000. > > Type approved equipment is more expensive, but older crystal controlled HF > radios for this kind of service can occasionally be found on the market. > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: aus-wx: Re: Moon & earthquakes Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 12:16:41 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Surely 4 in 2 days (which has not > occurred since February 13th) represents "more prevalent than usual". Make that 7 in the last 3 days in NZ as we head into tomorrow morning's apogee. Ken +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [202.5.161.1] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: My Coffs Harbour weather photos! Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 22:55:31 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2002 22:55:32.0203 (UTC) FILETIME=[200E03B0:01C1F551] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At least it works for someone!! Last night and this morning they've been available one minute, and unable to be accessed the next!! Here's hoping it works for everyone. Original message: {: O  WOW !!! Awesome photos.. Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 09:36:24 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: My Coffs Harbour weather photos! From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20011031 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It certainly worked for myself last night and i am most impressed by those. Great work =) Footnote: Geocities has been up and down all weekend, maintenance and moving their servers. Regards, Dale +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 10:58:13 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning ... X-X-Sender: robert at tornado.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey James Great shots. Unfortunately, if you compare the 'feeler' with the actual bolt, you'll see that it is just a reflection. If you look at the top half of the actual bolt and compare it with the feeler, you'll see that they have the same shape, including the gap caused by the branch(?). The strange thing of course is that they occur on different frames, but I'm sure someone else will explain that one. On Tue, 7 May 2002, James Harris wrote: > The first capture is of what I'm sure is a Lightning feeler .. the scary > part being that it is less than 200 metres away: > http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2001/lightning1.JPG > > The second capture is of the main strike that ended up connecting to another > feeler on the other side of the trees: > http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2001/lightning2.JPG > Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [202.5.161.1] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: My Coffs Harbour weather photos! Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 01:39:05 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2002 01:39:05.0758 (UTC) FILETIME=[F963ABE0:01C1F567] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dale, I got an email about the maitenance late last week from Yahoo and left the uploading till last night. As you've said, its still a bit up and down now. David Sercombe Coffs Harbour NE NSW _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "nandina morris" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: My Coffs Harbour weather photos! Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 12:23:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com David, your photographs are sensational - but you need to know I am no expert. You would like a rating - OK - from the value of weather drama - No 1. But for sheer artistry and composition, No 2. (There's nothing wrong with No 3, either, especially when the blueness of 'ordinary sky' merges with the magic of the colors.) Well done! Cheers, Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: David Sercombe To: Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:07 PM Subject: aus-wx: My Coffs Harbour weather photos! > I've managed to scan some of my weather photos from the last year or so. > > I've uploaded some of these photos to my geocities site. It needs a lot of > development (it's still in the virtual directory format!), which will > hopefully occur over the next few months. > > These three photos here are my favourites. I'll let you guys look at them > and give me the verdict!! > > http://www.geocities.com/daves_weather/Photos/2001/211201_3.jpg > > http://www.geocities.com/daves_weather/Photos/2001/211201_4.jpg > > http://www.geocities.com/daves_weather/Photos/2001/211201_5.jpg > > Feel free to look at some of the others on there as well. > > I've got some radar loops of this particular storm which i'll upload in the > next day or so. > > Enjoy!! > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.350 / Virus Database: 196 - Release Date: 4/17/02 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne - second-hottest May day on record To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 15:35:39 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Melbourne has reached 28.1 so far today (as of 3.30). This is the second-highest May temperature on record, after 28.7 on 7 May 1905. It is still not impossible that it could get higher, although the chances of reaching 28.7 are small (there's another chance tomorrow, though). I expect that numerous records have been broken in western Victoria. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 15:33:38 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2002 05:34:55.0977 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB93BD90:01C1F588] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
A large baroclinic area over the coral sea is starting to show upper vorticity just off the tip of  Fraser island. There also seems to be an upper cold pool associated with this system which extends westward over central QLD worth a watch on this wildcard. regards Clyve H.
X-Originating-IP: [211.28.145.120] From: "Michael Wright" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 16:39:14 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2002 06:39:14.0705 (UTC) FILETIME=[E78EE810:01C1F591] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Clyve. Hmmmm least it somethink,it been so quite lateley maybe we mite get some storm out of this system. >From: "Clyve Herbert" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 15:33:38 +1000 > >Hi all. >A large baroclinic area over the coral sea is starting to show upper >vorticity just off the tip of Fraser island. There also seems to be an >upper cold pool associated with this system which extends westward over >central QLD worth a watch on this wildcard. regards Clyve H. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [198.142.18.187] From: "Dave Ellem" To: Subject: aus-wx: Landspout touches down in NE NSW - 07/05/02!!!!!! Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:52:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2002 06:53:11.0292 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA33F3C0:01C1F593] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Afternoon all!!
I spotted a landspout thisarvo and my pics, Michael Baths video captures, and further info is on the forum here if anyone is interested:
 
Dave Ellem
 
From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:18:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2002 07:18:05.0222 (UTC) FILETIME=[54A79460:01C1F597] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Clyve
 
I noticed this also - but which way will it move if it does indeed form a surface low ?
 
 
Regards
Simon
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low?

Hi all.
A large baroclinic area over the coral sea is starting to show upper vorticity just off the tip of  Fraser island. There also seems to be an upper cold pool associated with this system which extends westward over central QLD worth a watch on this wildcard. regards Clyve H.
X-Originating-IP: [211.28.29.139] From: "James Harris" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning ... Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:13:09 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2002 08:13:16.0139 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A1D6BB0:01C1F59F] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert, The reflection theory was the first thing that crossed my mind when I looked at the footage , however as it was different frames I naturally thought it couldn't be ! Oh well I've learnt something new ! James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Goler" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning ... > > Hey James > > Great shots. Unfortunately, if you compare the 'feeler' with the actual > bolt, you'll see that it is just a reflection. If you look at the top > half of the actual bolt and compare it with the feeler, you'll see that > they have the same shape, including the gap caused by the branch(?). The > strange thing of course is that they occur on different frames, but I'm > sure someone else will explain that one. > > On Tue, 7 May 2002, James Harris wrote: > > > The first capture is of what I'm sure is a Lightning feeler .. the scary > > part being that it is less than 200 metres away: > > http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2001/lightning1.JPG > > > > The second capture is of the main strike that ended up connecting to another > > feeler on the other side of the trees: > > http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2001/lightning2.JPG > > > > > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > School of Mathematical Sciences > PO Box 28M > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > -- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 18:18:47 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: My Coffs Harbour weather photos! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey David, Wow - these photos are awesome!!!!!!! When were they taken???? AC David Sercombe wrote: > > I've managed to scan some of my weather photos from the last year or so. > > I've uploaded some of these photos to my geocities site. It needs a lot of > development (it's still in the virtual directory format!), which will > hopefully occur over the next few months. > > These three photos here are my favourites. I'll let you guys look at them > and give me the verdict!! > > http://www.geocities.com/daves_weather/Photos/2001/211201_3.jpg > > http://www.geocities.com/daves_weather/Photos/2001/211201_4.jpg > > http://www.geocities.com/daves_weather/Photos/2001/211201_5.jpg > > Feel free to look at some of the others on there as well. > > I've got some radar loops of this particular storm which i'll upload in the > next day or so. > > Enjoy!! > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: help with an Anemometer? Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:12:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Jason,
I was just checking back and saw this .I have a Maximum anolog Wind Gauge as well as an electronic Wx Station from Maximum Inc. The anolog gauge shows real time wind speed  and has a max Gust Indicator .It also shows wind dirction with LED  display on the dial. Very robust and reliable. Needs power for the direction part. I have had this since 1998 and the highest gust so far recorded was 127 km /hr some years ago..It  is not too expensive around $300-$400 Australian but is has been worth it!
details can be sent on request
 ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 9:19 PM
Subject: aus-wx: help with an Anemometer?

Hi all,

 

Just a quick message.

Does any one know where I’m able to purchase an Anemometer that is reasonable price and can withstand gale force winds?

Thanks

Jason
From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: help with an Anemometer? Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:51:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thanks Gavin,
Regards
Jason
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: help with an Anemometer?

Jason,
I was just checking back and saw this .I have a Maximum anolog Wind Gauge as well as an electronic Wx Station from Maximum Inc. The anolog gauge shows real time wind speed  and has a max Gust Indicator .It also shows wind dirction with LED  display on the dial. Very robust and reliable. Needs power for the direction part. I have had this since 1998 and the highest gust so far recorded was 127 km /hr some years ago..It  is not too expensive around $300-$400 Australian but is has been worth it!
details can be sent on request
 ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 9:19 PM
Subject: aus-wx: help with an Anemometer?

Hi all,

 

Just a quick message.

Does any one know where I’m able to purchase an Anemometer that is reasonable price and can withstand gale force winds?

Thanks

Jason
X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 19:33:44 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning ... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi James, Upon watching the video, I recall thinking it was reflection as well but was not sure as I would have had to see it several times. Not trying to divert away from your photograph, but there was an incredibly wierd reflection on one of the US lightning shots. It was wierd because it was on a horizontal sideways scale ie the lightning seemed to strike next to the car but I think refraction from the side window as well as possible reflection in the camera meant to had to go frame by frame to determine that it was not along the side. Yes it is an interesting thing with video cameras. Jimmy Deguara At 06:13 PM 7/5/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Robert, > >The reflection theory was the first thing that crossed my mind when I looked >at the footage , however as it was different frames I naturally thought it >couldn't be ! >Oh well I've learnt something new ! > >James > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Goler" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:58 AM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning ... > > > > > > Hey James > > > > Great shots. Unfortunately, if you compare the 'feeler' with the actual > > bolt, you'll see that it is just a reflection. If you look at the top > > half of the actual bolt and compare it with the feeler, you'll see that > > they have the same shape, including the gap caused by the branch(?). The > > strange thing of course is that they occur on different frames, but I'm > > sure someone else will explain that one. > > > > On Tue, 7 May 2002, James Harris wrote: > > > > > The first capture is of what I'm sure is a Lightning feeler .. the scary > > > part being that it is less than 200 metres away: > > > http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2001/lightning1.JPG > > > > > > The second capture is of the main strike that ended up connecting to >another > > > feeler on the other side of the trees: > > > http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2001/lightning2.JPG > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > -- > > > > Robert A. Goler > > > > School of Mathematical Sciences > > PO Box 28M > > Monash University > > Clayton, Vic 3800 > > Australia > > > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > > email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > > > -- > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 19:40:10 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: CB radios on special Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:27 AM 7/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >I don't think base stations are "officially" allowed, but if it was licensed >and treated as a mobile but is really a base, noone is really the wiser >about it. I have heard units talking without the base station so it seems to >be an open net group. This could be interesting and worthwhile looking into. Here's the conditions of use. http://www.vks737.on.net/Conditions%20Web.pdf And the home page. http://www.vks737.on.net 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 20:23:34 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne - second-hottest May day on record Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 03:35 PM 7/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Melbourne has reached 28.1 so far today (as of 3.30). This is the >second-highest May temperature on record, after 28.7 on 7 May 1905. > >It is still not impossible that it could get higher, although the >chances of reaching 28.7 are small (there's another chance tomorrow, >though). > >I expect that numerous records have been broken in western Victoria. It was an amazing day. In between work, I followed the ups and downs of the temperature on the BoM site (probably got a zillion hits in the proxy logs - lucky I'm the "traffic cop" ;) ). The temperature really didn't drop significantly until an hour before sunset, a little after 4PM. Even by 6:30, it was 22.7, according to the weather report on the news. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 20:25:38 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: My Coffs Harbour weather photos! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:18 PM 7/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hey David, > >Wow - these photos are awesome!!!!!!! When were they taken???? Awesome is the only word that came to my mind too!!!!!. Wish I had a camera that could take decent photos (mine is crap - doesn't handle contrast well :( ). 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Originating-IP: [165.228.129.11] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: My Coffs Harbour weather photos! Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 10:35:48 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2002 10:35:48.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3CAE9F0:01C1F5B2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I took them on 21/12/01. A fairly eventful day when you all get to look at the radar loop!! (I'm uploading it as we speak - 8:30pm) Original message: Hey David, Wow - these photos are awesome!!!!!!! When were they taken???? AC David Sercombe wrote: > >I've managed to scan some of my weather photos from the last year or so. > >I've uploaded some of these photos to my geocities site. It needs a lot of >development (it's still in the virtual directory format!), which will >hopefully occur over the next few months. > >These three photos here are my favourites. I'll let you guys look at them >and give me the verdict!! > >http://www.geocities.com/daves_weather/Photos/2001/211201_3.jpg > >http://www.geocities.com/daves_weather/Photos/2001/211201_4.jpg > >http://www.geocities.com/daves_weather/Photos/2001/211201_5.jpg > >Feel free to look at some of the others on there as well. > >I've got some radar loops of this particular storm which i'll upload in the >next day or so. > >Enjoy!! > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [165.228.129.11] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Re: My Coffs Harbour weather photos! Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 10:50:28 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2002 10:50:29.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[008C1270:01C1F5B5] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've quickly written a html file with links to the anvil photos in particular, and links to the whole radar loop for the day as well as a separate (and shorter) loop for the cell in question. This cell was to the east of Coffs Hbr. What do you call the 'cluster' of heavy precipitation that is this cell?? http://www.geocities.com/daves_weather/211201.html _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 21:10:44 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: My Coffs Harbour weather photos! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 10:50 AM 7/05/2002 +0000, you wrote: >I've quickly written a html file with links to the anvil photos in >particular, and links to the whole radar loop for the day as well as a >separate (and shorter) loop for the cell in question. > >This cell was to the east of Coffs Hbr. > >What do you call the 'cluster' of heavy precipitation that is this cell?? > >http://www.geocities.com/daves_weather/211201.html Hmm, stoopid Yahoo... Got to see the radar loop, then their server complained of too much data transfer. :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Convective (Cu) Cloud Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 21:51:17 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
i think the calculation is
(temp. - dewpoint) * 400 = cloud base height in feet.
i could be wrong on this, someone jump on it quick if i am please.
 
Thunda Hunta
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Convective (Cu) Cloud

 
Hehe.. it's funny what u can find out if u read the instructions first - Doh!
 
:)
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
 
Taken from FreeWX  FAQ
 
· Base height of convective cloud
 
As a parcel of air rises (convection), it expands in the lowering air pressure, causing it to cool and reducing its ability to hold moisture. At some point the moisture in the air exceeds that which can be held, forcing the water vapor to condense, forming clouds. Given the current dew point and temperature it is possible to calculate the altitude at which this condensation occurs.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Convective (Cu) Cloud

Hi all,
 
Question.
 
My weather station (WM-918) has a display where it shows the "base hight of convective (Cu) cloud above local ground" shown in meters (& feet).
 
Does that mean the hight a cloud has to be before rain will fall?
And how does the weather station go about in coming to that hight?
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
  
From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Convective (Cu) Cloud Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 22:30:52 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Ahh.. The plot .. er, cloud? .. thickens!  :)
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 9:51 PM
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Convective (Cu) Cloud

i think the calculation is
(temp. - dewpoint) * 400 = cloud base height in feet.
i could be wrong on this, someone jump on it quick if i am please.
 
Thunda Hunta
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 22:20:16 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2002 12:21:33.0264 (UTC) FILETIME=[B97E4D00:01C1F5C1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Simon.
Although this area of activity appears to be weakening, a weak vorticity area can be seen not far off shore of Brisbane, max vorticity is in the mid to upper levels (17,000 - 27,000). This large area of baroclinic upper level cloud is on the top end of a mid lat long wave trough which can be connected to a super low well southeast of NZ (936hpa two days ago).
There is also a  positive convective area near to the Solomon islands on the northeast flank of this Coral sea Cloud mass, its all very interesting. In regards to tropical cloud areas a massive region of convection has been operating off the south west coast of Indonesia for the past few days some of which is starting to feed into another long wave trough over WA. regards Clyve H.
PS in respect to what may happen it seems the system will weaken and shuffle off to the southeast, although for a wish forecast a nice east coast low would be good..........
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low?

Clyve
 
I noticed this also - but which way will it move if it does indeed form a surface low ?
 
 
Regards
Simon
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low?

Hi all.
A large baroclinic area over the coral sea is starting to show upper vorticity just off the tip of  Fraser island. There also seems to be an upper cold pool associated with this system which extends westward over central QLD worth a watch on this wildcard. regards Clyve H.
From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Hopeful Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 06:58:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The old saying has happened this morning. Here's hoping. It's that dry the cows are giving condensed milk!!!!
 
Red sky in the morning......
 
Bussy (NE Victoria)
X-Originating-IP: [211.28.146.198] From: "Michael Wright" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 08:36:01 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2002 22:36:01.0976 (UTC) FILETIME=[90F54B80:01C1F617] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Clyde. I have been watching this week low now for a day, on the metsat it show a lot of cumulus cloud and it moving se around 20 kms hour and bringing a lot of heavy down poors off rain to the sun shine coast. Ps nice weather report. Michael Wright >From: "Clyve Herbert" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 22:20:16 +1000 > >Hi Simon. >Although this area of activity appears to be weakening, a weak vorticity >area can be seen not far off shore of Brisbane, max vorticity is in the mid >to upper levels (17,000 - 27,000). This large area of baroclinic upper >level cloud is on the top end of a mid lat long wave trough which can be >connected to a super low well southeast of NZ (936hpa two days ago). >There is also a positive convective area near to the Solomon islands on >the northeast flank of this Coral sea Cloud mass, its all very interesting. >In regards to tropical cloud areas a massive region of convection has been >operating off the south west coast of Indonesia for the past few days some >of which is starting to feed into another long wave trough over WA. regards >Clyve H. >PS in respect to what may happen it seems the system will weaken and >shuffle off to the southeast, although for a wish forecast a nice east >coast low would be good.......... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Simon Clarke > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 5:18 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? > > > Clyve > > I noticed this also - but which way will it move if it does indeed form >a surface low ? > > > Regards > Simon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Clyve Herbert > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:33 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? > > > Hi all. > A large baroclinic area over the coral sea is starting to show upper >vorticity just off the tip of Fraser island. There also seems to be an >upper cold pool associated with this system which extends westward over >central QLD worth a watch on this wildcard. regards Clyve H. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Coldest night yet! Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 10:32:04 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
It got down to 7.3 degrees last night at my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River in Sydney's Northern Suburbs. That's the coldest here so far this season & the night before was 8.3 degrees. What did other Sydney siders record last night?
From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Bathurst Snow Reports Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 11:48:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI all.
 
After many people showing their winter websites, i have upgraded mine a little.
 
 
This page will entail road reports and closures during the winter weather around
Bathurst, Orange, Lithgow, Oberon areas.
 
Dave
Bathurst
 
 
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Low south of WA. Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 12:04:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2002 02:06:12.0493 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED697BD0:01C1F634] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
 It has been interesting to follow the progress of the low south of WA now approaching 'super low' status (949hpa), over the past 4 weeks or so a number of very deep lows have been occurring over the Southern Ocean, some as low as 936hpa. The low south of WA has generated a broad trough to the north and strengthened the sub tropical jet, this has resulted in a 'flash' appearerance of a moderate sized jet baroclinic streak across the Aus Bight over the past 6 hours or so. This jet streak can be traced back (moisture Plume) to the large tropical cloud area off the Indonesian coast. Things weatherwise should start to improve for rubber necking and bored Victorian sky watchers over the next couple of days. regards Clyve H.
From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Daily weather Statistics Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 13:59:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I have updated my weather site covering daily maximum & minimum temperatures, rainfall, cloud cover & wind for my house between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River in Sydney's Northern Suburbs. On my main page scroll down to 'My Other Pages', then click on 'My Wetaher Page':
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Perth tornado? Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 10:17:06 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi All,
 
The Today show yesterday morning showed some footage of severe damage in Perth caused by a coldie associated with a storm cell in that vigorous cold front passage.  Basically, a shopping centre pretty much levelled.  It is curious that there has been no mention of this in the list.  Have all our W.A boys gone AWOL?
 
Anyway, no marks to Ch 9 who managed this gem "...when a cold front turned into a mini-tornado..."  but as an aside the same news reader shortly thereafter managed "...the Islamic Prime Minister Ariel Sharon...". 
 
So W.A. people, whats the drum?
 
John.
 
X-Originating-IP: [202.7.15.25] From: "Daniel Lester" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 850 temps vs surface temps Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 15:07:32 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2002 05:07:32.0853 (UTC) FILETIME=[429CAA50:01C1F64E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Theres quite a large variance, but generally the relationship is linear as temperature falls at a constant rate on any given day. However this is only true below ~2000m asl. The rate can vary and variance creeps in should inversions occur etc. >From: "richard modistach" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: "weather mailing list" >Subject: aus-wx: 850 temps vs surface temps >Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 22:38:09 +0930 > >is there a direct correlation between surface temps and 850 temps or does >the difference vary too much? _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 13:52:10 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: RE: aus-wx: Perth tornado? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John, Yeah, they showed in on the news here on Monday night, the shopping centre was pretty much destroyed, many other houses around the hills area also had damage. There were some more storms this morning associated with a cold front, and another strong looking front is due on Friday night or Saturday. Quite an impressive start to the SW storm season. Jacob At 10:17 AM 8/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > Hi All, > > The Today show yesterday morning showed some footage of severe damage in > Perth caused by a coldie associated with a storm cell in that vigorous cold > front passage. Basically, a shopping centre pretty much levelled. It is > curious that there has been no mention of this in the list. Have all our W.A > boys gone AWOL? > > Anyway, no marks to Ch 9 who managed this gem "...when a cold front turned > into a mini-tornado..." but as an aside the same news reader shortly > thereafter managed "...the Islamic Prime Minister Ariel Sharon...". > > So W.A. people, whats the drum? > > John. >> >> > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coldest night yet! Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 17:30:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Only 10.5 at Seven Hills (3.5 on the grass). You must be in a local 'valley' ...?
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 10:32 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Coldest night yet!

It got down to 7.3 degrees last night at my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River in Sydney's Northern Suburbs. That's the coldest here so far this season & the night before was 8.3 degrees. What did other Sydney siders record last night?
From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low south of WA. Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 17:37:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
It's now only a matter of time before a major cold outbreak in SE Australia. That might sound like a dull statement of the obvious given the proximity to June but with that high we've had for so long perhaps things were going to be different. Now it looks like shoving off ,systems I suspect will now become a lot more mobile, especially if the traffic jam in the far South Pacific breaks down further or weakens. Also have a look at:
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 12:04 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Low south of WA.

Hi all.
 It has been interesting to follow the progress of the low south of WA now approaching 'super low' status (949hpa), over the past 4 weeks or so a number of very deep lows have been occurring over the Southern Ocean, some as low as 936hpa. The low south of WA has generated a broad trough to the north and strengthened the sub tropical jet, this has resulted in a 'flash' appearerance of a moderate sized jet baroclinic streak across the Aus Bight over the past 6 hours or so. This jet streak can be traced back (moisture Plume) to the large tropical cloud area off the Indonesian coast. Things weatherwise should start to improve for rubber necking and bored Victorian sky watchers over the next couple of days. regards Clyve H.
From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low south of WA. Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 17:22:57 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey Keith,
 
I'm not sure what South America has to do with our blocking high? Maybe you could assist? :)
 
Maybe El Nino?
 
Rgds,
Paul Mossman
NT State ASWA Rep
Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
email: ntstorms at bigpond.com
MSN: ntstorms at hotmail.com
ICQ: 111144666
Mobile: 0401115483
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low south of WA.

It's now only a matter of time before a major cold outbreak in SE Australia. That might sound like a dull statement of the obvious given the proximity to June but with that high we've had for so long perhaps things were going to be different. Now it looks like shoving off ,systems I suspect will now become a lot more mobile, especially if the traffic jam in the far South Pacific breaks down further or weakens. Also have a look at:
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 12:04 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Low south of WA.

Hi all.
 It has been interesting to follow the progress of the low south of WA now approaching 'super low' status (949hpa), over the past 4 weeks or so a number of very deep lows have been occurring over the Southern Ocean, some as low as 936hpa. The low south of WA has generated a broad trough to the north and strengthened the sub tropical jet, this has resulted in a 'flash' appearerance of a moderate sized jet baroclinic streak across the Aus Bight over the past 6 hours or so. This jet streak can be traced back (moisture Plume) to the large tropical cloud area off the Indonesian coast. Things weatherwise should start to improve for rubber necking and bored Victorian sky watchers over the next couple of days. regards Clyve H.
From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low south of WA. Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 18:13:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I reckon the low pressures in its vicinity have been holding it up. That deep 'super low' that went down to 936 mb was, as far as I could tell, being held up by low pressures to its east and northeast, the latter one was cut off west of Chile but now looks to me like it will soon join the westerlies. As that happens I think it will free things up a bit.
I'm quite happy to be proven wrong, but as long as we all learn something...
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low south of WA.

Hey Keith,
 
I'm not sure what South America has to do with our blocking high? Maybe you could assist? :)
 
Maybe El Nino?
 
Rgds,
Paul Mossman
NT State ASWA Rep
Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
email: ntstorms at bigpond.com
MSN: ntstorms at hotmail.com
ICQ: 111144666
Mobile: 0401115483
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low south of WA.

It's now only a matter of time before a major cold outbreak in SE Australia. That might sound like a dull statement of the obvious given the proximity to June but with that high we've had for so long perhaps things were going to be different. Now it looks like shoving off ,systems I suspect will now become a lot more mobile, especially if the traffic jam in the far South Pacific breaks down further or weakens. Also have a look at:
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 12:04 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Low south of WA.

Hi all.
 It has been interesting to follow the progress of the low south of WA now approaching 'super low' status (949hpa), over the past 4 weeks or so a number of very deep lows have been occurring over the Southern Ocean, some as low as 936hpa. The low south of WA has generated a broad trough to the north and strengthened the sub tropical jet, this has resulted in a 'flash' appearerance of a moderate sized jet baroclinic streak across the Aus Bight over the past 6 hours or so. This jet streak can be traced back (moisture Plume) to the large tropical cloud area off the Indonesian coast. Things weatherwise should start to improve for rubber necking and bored Victorian sky watchers over the next couple of days. regards Clyve H.
From: "Peter Matters" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Perth tornado? Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 18:53:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Looks like the Long Wave Trough is finally on a slow march east across Oz:-) Cheers Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:52 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Perth tornado? > > Hi John, > > Yeah, they showed in on the news here on Monday night, the shopping centre was > pretty much destroyed, many other houses around the hills area also had damage. > > There were some more storms this morning associated with a cold front, and > another strong looking front is due on Friday night or Saturday. Quite an > impressive start to the SW storm season. > > Jacob > > > > At 10:17 AM 8/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > The Today show yesterday morning showed some footage of severe damage in > > Perth caused by a coldie associated with a storm cell in that vigorous cold > > front passage. Basically, a shopping centre pretty much levelled. It is > > curious that there has been no mention of this in the list. Have all our W.A > > boys gone AWOL? > > > > Anyway, no marks to Ch 9 who managed this gem "...when a cold front turned > > into a mini-tornado..." but as an aside the same news reader shortly > > thereafter managed "...the Islamic Prime Minister Ariel Sharon...". > > > > So W.A. people, whats the drum? > > > > John. > >> > >> > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Wet bulb Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 19:48:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Sorry all. Due to a fair bit of computer probs I missed the Wet bulb conversation.
If I had a wet bulb in my yard what would it tell me?
Dry bulb the same?
I run Weather-Display software here with my Davis II and I have noticed that the wet bulb is nearly always half way between the Dew point and the actual temp.
As simple as thanks :-)
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wet bulb Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 20:32:59 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Taken from FreeWX  FAQ
 
· Wet-Bulb Temperature
 
Wet-bulb temperature is the temperature that would be measured by an ordinary liquid-in-glass thermometer with (1) water on its liquid-reservoir "bulb" (the "wet bulb"); and (2) air blowing steadily past it. It is the lowest temperature achievable solely by evaporating water into the air.
 
· Wet-Bulb Depression
 
Is the difference between the wet-bulb temperature and the outside (dry-bulb) temperature.
 
:)
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 7:18 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wet bulb

Sorry all. Due to a fair bit of computer probs I missed the Wet bulb conversation.
If I had a wet bulb in my yard what would it tell me?
Dry bulb the same?
I run Weather-Display software here with my Davis II and I have noticed that the wet bulb is nearly always half way between the Dew point and the actual temp.
As simple as thanks :-)
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Hopeful Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 22:14:36 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
don't you mean powdered milk?
 
over here its as dry as a dead dingoes donger in a lime burners boot.
i'd love to see four inches, the missus said she wouldnt mind eight.
hope the tide turns soon, the cockys are starting to get snarly. we've had  five years of subsistance rainfall, most i talk to want a big wet for a change. being the only person in the district full on into weather and stormchasing they expect me to be a long range forcaster as well, i feel a bit obtuse when i have to tell them i've got no idea. anyone got any gut feelings for the next three to six months for the s.e.s.a.
 
Thunda Hunta (naracoorte s.a.)
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 6:28 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Hopeful

The old saying has happened this morning. Here's hoping. It's that dry the cows are giving condensed milk!!!!
 
Red sky in the morning......
 
Bussy (NE Victoria)
X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 07:59:03 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Steady rain started around 7.00am here in Adelaide and is continuing an hour later. 5mm in the gauge already. I'd forgotten how good the stuff looks - and smells! Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 09:37:26 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2002 23:38:49.0282 (UTC) FILETIME=[80DC5220:01C1F6E9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good Morning Michael. It was interesting to see that upper disturbance hang about the southeast coast of QLD yesterday but unfortunately underwent a weakening process, did it develop any showers on the coast or did you see any possible storm activity in the remnant upper cold pool in your area . regards Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Wright To: Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:39 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? > > Clyve. Hmmmm least it somethink,it been so quite lateley maybe we mite get > some storm out of this system. > > >From: "Clyve Herbert" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: > >Subject: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? > >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 15:33:38 +1000 > > > >Hi all. > >A large baroclinic area over the coral sea is starting to show upper > >vorticity just off the tip of Fraser island. There also seems to be an > >upper cold pool associated with this system which extends westward over > >central QLD worth a watch on this wildcard. regards Clyve H. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Southeast Aus Cloud band. Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 09:58:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2002 23:59:53.0502 (UTC) FILETIME=[7264FBE0:01C1F6EC] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
Nice looking cloud band approaching Victoria showing weak vorticity just west of Tasmania, although the jet associated with this set is weakening there appears to be reasonable mid level moisture and a marked lifting area just ahead of the clearing edge....fingers crossed...regards Clyve H.
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Tropo stuff. Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 09:55:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2002 23:56:37.0622 (UTC) FILETIME=[FDA41160:01C1F6EB] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all tropo's.
Two areas of interest,  one just south of the Solomon Islands and another just off the Indonesian coast..... The area just south of the Solomon's has some reasonable convective structure, this region has been convectively active for a few days and is sitting on the northeast flank of the far northern tip of a long wave trough, again its the upper north-westerly shear that appears to be dominating so upper divergence is limited. The other area of activity is at about 100 east and near to 5 south just off the coast of Indonesia (north of the Cocos Islands), this locality has seen sustained and massive convection over the past week or two but is now showing organised convergence and a not to bad upper divergent field, this area has also been sitting at the top of a long wave trough west of WA. regards Clyve Herbert.
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 10:35:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Clyve, Nothing of interest around SEQ, one Cu street looked a bit grunty at one stage but I doubt it produced anything other than a light shower. There was a light shower around midnight associated with a temp drop of about 2C. Low level stratus'y look about town this morning and quite cold overnight, down to 12C at Mt. Crosby. Definite absence of warmth and here, and has been ever since the SE regime came in a week or two ago - midday temps struggling to get above the low 20's despite what the BoM reports say. Quite a shock after such a long period of 29..31's. John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Clyve Herbert Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 9:37 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? Good Morning Michael. It was interesting to see that upper disturbance hang about the southeast coast of QLD yesterday but unfortunately underwent a weakening process, did it develop any showers on the coast or did you see any possible storm activity in the remnant upper cold pool in your area . regards Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Wright To: Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:39 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? > > Clyve. Hmmmm least it somethink,it been so quite lateley maybe we mite get > some storm out of this system. > > >From: "Clyve Herbert" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: > >Subject: aus-wx: Coral Sea xtra trop low? > >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 15:33:38 +1000 > > > >Hi all. > >A large baroclinic area over the coral sea is starting to show upper > >vorticity just off the tip of Fraser island. There also seems to be an > >upper cold pool associated with this system which extends westward over > >central QLD worth a watch on this wildcard. regards Clyve H. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 12:03:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Gee send some to us its weeks since we have seen it! Gavin Canberra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bagust" To: Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:29 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted > Hi all > > Steady rain started around 7.00am here in Adelaide and is continuing an > hour later. 5mm in the gauge already. I'd forgotten how good the stuff > looks - and smells! > > Phil > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coldest night yet! Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 12:11:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Yes my place is in quiet a deep valley at the bottom of Fullers / Delhi Rd with  the hills of Chatswood West on one side & the hills of North Ryde (Northern Suburbs Crematorium)on the other side. I notice the difference in temperature when I drive home late at night, descending into my valley along the Lane Cove River the temperature drops dramatically. Last night I recorded a temp' of 8.5 here.
 
 
Damian
Sydney's Northern Suburbs
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Coldest night yet! Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 12:39:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Damian.
 
I can relate to this.  I used to own a house halfway down Waitara Creek valley on the West side of Hornsby and the temp difference in the valley on clear windless nights was remarkable.  I can recall several instances of powering up the (hail dented :) 'cruiser at around 6:30am with a totally clear windshield - only have a quarter of an inch of ice instantly form when I got to the top of the hill on the plateau.  Cold dry air in the valley well below 0C, with warm moister air sitting over it in an inversion layer.
 
Now on a ridge in SEQ - no longer a problem!
 
John.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:12 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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Yes my place is in quiet a deep valley at the bottom of Fullers / Delhi Rd with  the hills of Chatswood West on one side & the hills of North Ryde (Northern Suburbs Crematorium)on the other side. I notice the difference in temperature when I drive home late at night, descending into my valley along the Lane Cove River the temperature drops dramatically. Last night I recorded a temp' of 8.5 here.
 
 
Damian
Sydney's Northern Suburbs
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 00:15:45 -0400 (EDT) From: David Hart Apparently-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Received: from TheWorld.com (pcls1.std.com [199.172.62.103]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19038 for ; Wed, 8 May 2002 00:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scan.pnc.com.au (scan.pnc.com.au [203.13.174.123]) by TheWorld.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA04659 for ; Wed, 8 May 2002 00:54:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 5298 invoked by uid 84); 8 May 2002 04:59:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?203.91.251.135?) (203.13.174.1) by scan.pnc.com.au with SMTP; 8 May 2002 04:59:21 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 14:53:24 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blair on air From: Intentional Server 1 To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001501c1f644$bf2b4ea0$40378ec6 at Damo> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id AAA19042 Hi Blair nice piece with Chris Smith on 2GB this afternoon regarding the warm winter. I thought you answered the 'hype' questions well and the explainations were authoratitive and easily understood ^Ë well done Brian Wilson +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 15:50:09 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coldest night yet! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com As regards tempertaure variations on calm nights - keep an eye on Coonabarabran and Coonabarabran Ap in NSW. The town is in a hollow and the temp site is close to the lowest poitn. The airport is higher and a few kms oiut of town. Usually, the Airports are colder than the towns - eg Goulburn, Parkes etc. This morning at 6 am Coonabarabran Town was 1.1 degrees..... the Airport less than 7 kms away was 13 degrees ! Don White +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coldest night yet! To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 16:18:15 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > As regards tempertaure variations on calm nights - keep an eye on > Coonabarabran and Coonabarabran Ap in NSW. The town is in a hollow and > the temp site is close to the lowest poitn. The airport is higher and a > few kms oiut of town. Usually, the Airports are colder than the towns - > eg Goulburn, Parkes etc. > This morning at 6 am Coonabarabran Town was 1.1 degrees..... the Airport > less than 7 kms away was 13 degrees ! > > Don White The mean difference between the two Coonabarabran sites over the 10 months of parallel records so far is around 5 degrees for minimum temperature. 8-10 degrees is common on clear, calm nights, but this week's sequence of 11-13 degree differences is the most impressive yet. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at countryenergy.com.au Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coldest night yet! To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 16:19:09 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 09/05/2002 04:19:10 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI Don.. Bathurst was down to 0.3 this morning. and we had a frost.. .. Im waiting for the below zero. not far away now.. the only problem is, cloud cover might stop the frost from occurring tonight. Dave Don White To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sent by: cc: aussie-weather-approval at wor Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coldest night yet! ld.std.com 09/05/2002 03:50 PM Please respond to aussie-weather As regards tempertaure variations on calm nights - keep an eye on Coonabarabran and Coonabarabran Ap in NSW. The town is in a hollow and the temp site is close to the lowest poitn. The airport is higher and a few kms oiut of town. Usually, the Airports are colder than the towns - eg Goulburn, Parkes etc. This morning at 6 am Coonabarabran Town was 1.1 degrees..... the Airport less than 7 kms away was 13 degrees ! Don White +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 16:19:47 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted - ANd here too! X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here in Hong Kong we woke up to steady rain this morning after weeks of unseasonal fine weather. It's been raining all day and HKO says there's more to come. I got my brolly out this morning and it was nearly too stiff to open - half rusted up since it was last used last year sometime. It's great to see Spring arriving at last. I can't remember when our clear skies of winter lasted right through to May before. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Phil Bagust To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 07:59:03 +0930 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted > Hi all > > Steady rain started around 7.00am here in Adelaide and is continuing an > hour later. 5mm in the gauge already. I'd forgotten how good the > stuff > looks - and smells! > > Phil > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - > - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 18:30:09 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:59 AM 9/05/2002 +0930, you wrote: >Hi all > >Steady rain started around 7.00am here in Adelaide and is continuing an >hour later. 5mm in the gauge already. I'd forgotten how good the stuff >looks - and smells! Some of the mysterious falling water was sighted in Melbourne too this afternoon. ;-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Andrew" To: Subject: aus-wx: US stuff Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 19:08:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 May 2002 09:10:09.0952 (UTC) FILETIME=[51BB7200:01C1F739] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
Just thought some of those watching the US would like to see this sounding from Oklahoma City today.  Note the Helicity of 300+, the CAPE of 3500j/kg and LI's of -10.3C.  Not bad.  Only a few tornadoes today though - partly due to that cap and also the fact that storms "lined out" rather quickly from the brief look I've had.
 
 
Note: this sounding is not likely to be up for long before it changes.
 
Regards,
 
Andrew McDonald
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 18:50:05 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted - 100mm+ and still pouring down! X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We have had more than 100mm since midnight and it's still coming down! See Isohyet chart at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/images/rfmapmid1700e.png for details. My home is just south of the "n" in "Sha Tin" 300 metres upstream from where the two tributaries enter the main Shing Mun River so I'm just inside the 100mm isohyet by a whisker. As you can see on the map, the really heavy rainfall today has only covered an area a few kilometres across - Tai Po is 11 kilometres North West of us and has only recorded 20mm. My wife just rang me from Cheung Chau island in the South China Sea (about 50 kilometres SW of here as the cocky flies), and they have had unbroken sunshine there all day without the slightest sign of a cloud and not a single drop of rain although their dams desperately need it. They are still buying all their water which is shipped in on barges. So we need what we've had here at home over the whole region. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 16:19:47 +0800 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted - ANd here too! > Here in Hong Kong we woke up to steady rain this morning after weeks of > unseasonal fine weather. It's been raining all day and HKO says > there's > more to come. > I got my brolly out this morning and it was nearly too stiff to open - > half rusted up since it was last used last year sometime. > It's great to see Spring arriving at last. I can't remember when our > clear skies of winter lasted right through to May before. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Bagust > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 07:59:03 +0930 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted > > > Hi all > > > > Steady rain started around 7.00am here in Adelaide and is continuing > an > > hour later. 5mm in the gauge already. I'd forgotten how good the > > stuff > > looks - and smells! > > > > Phil > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - > - > > - > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 19:49:57 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted - 150mm+ and still pouring down! X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey I just checked out the HKO's isohyet page again and the area a kilometre or so NE of here has now passed 150mm since midnight! That's more than six inches as we used to measure it in the old days. I have copied the latest isohyet map to http://www.drdisk.com.hk/images/rfmapmid1900e.png so you can compare it. There is a new railway under construction in the dark brown area - I bet the whole site is flooded out - I'm sure glad I don't work there! I sure wish we could share some of this lot with all you cockies down there who could really do with it. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 18:50:05 +0800 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted - 100mm+ and still pouring down! > We have had more than 100mm since midnight and it's still coming down! > See Isohyet chart at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/images/rfmapmid1700e.png > for details. My home is just south of the "n" in "Sha Tin" 300 metres > upstream from where the two tributaries enter the main Shing Mun River > so > I'm just inside the 100mm isohyet by a whisker. > As you can see on the map, the really heavy rainfall today has only > covered an area a few kilometres across - Tai Po is 11 kilometres North > West of us and has only recorded 20mm. > My wife just rang me from Cheung Chau island in the South China Sea > (about 50 kilometres SW of here as the cocky flies), and they have had > unbroken sunshine there all day without the slightest sign of a cloud > and > not a single drop of rain although their dams desperately need it. > They > are still buying all their water which is shipped in on barges. > So we need what we've had here at home over the whole region. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > [snip] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coldest night yet! Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 21:53:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blair, I know Coona well! Armidale town (2AD) and the Armidale AP would also be interesting as the elevation difference is around 100 metres.When at UNE I often recorded up to 5 dgrees difference on still winter nights between the site on North Hill and Radio 2AD site in town..We also record a large diffence between our selves and the Tuggeranong AWS for the same reason. Gavin O'Brien ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blair Trewin" To: Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 4:18 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coldest night yet! > > > > As regards tempertaure variations on calm nights - keep an eye on > > Coonabarabran and Coonabarabran Ap in NSW. The town is in a hollow and > > the temp site is close to the lowest poitn. The airport is higher and a > > few kms oiut of town. Usually, the Airports are colder than the towns - > > eg Goulburn, Parkes etc. > > This morning at 6 am Coonabarabran Town was 1.1 degrees..... the Airport > > less than 7 kms away was 13 degrees ! > > > > Don White > > The mean difference between the two Coonabarabran sites over the 10 > months of parallel records so far is around 5 degrees for minimum > temperature. 8-10 degrees is common on clear, calm nights, but > this week's sequence of 11-13 degree differences is the most > impressive yet. > > Blair > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 21:56:00 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted - 100mm+ and still pouringdown! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Phil... how often are these isohyte maps of HK put out... daily? weekly? for each rain event? what? Thanks Don White Phil Smith wrote: > > We have had more than 100mm since midnight and it's still coming down! > See Isohyet chart at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/images/rfmapmid1700e.png > for details. My home is just south of the "n" in "Sha Tin" 300 metres > upstream from where the two tributaries enter the main Shing Mun River so > I'm just inside the 100mm isohyet by a whisker. > As you can see on the map, the really heavy rainfall today has only > covered an area a few kilometres across - Tai Po is 11 kilometres North > West of us and has only recorded 20mm. > My wife just rang me from Cheung Chau island in the South China Sea > (about 50 kilometres SW of here as the cocky flies), and they have had > unbroken sunshine there all day without the slightest sign of a cloud and > not a single drop of rain although their dams desperately need it. They > are still buying all their water which is shipped in on barges. > So we need what we've had here at home over the whole region. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Phil Smith" > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 16:19:47 +0800 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted - ANd here too! > > > Here in Hong Kong we woke up to steady rain this morning after weeks of > > unseasonal fine weather. It's been raining all day and HKO says > > there's > > more to come. > > I got my brolly out this morning and it was nearly too stiff to open - > > half rusted up since it was last used last year sometime. > > It's great to see Spring arriving at last. I can't remember when our > > clear skies of winter lasted right through to May before. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phil Bagust > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 07:59:03 +0930 > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > Steady rain started around 7.00am here in Adelaide and is continuing > > an > > > hour later. 5mm in the gauge already. I'd forgotten how good the > > > stuff > > > looks - and smells! > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - > > - > > > - > > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 22:06:24 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted - 100mm+ and still pouringdown! X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Don. Take a squiz at http://www.hko.gov.hk/wxinfo/rainfall/isohyete.htm where you can see that there are always maps for the past hour, the past 24 hours, the rainfall since midnight, and the total rainfall for yesterday. I like to use this page a lot when typhoons come through as by stepping through each hour you can see the progress of each separate rainband and when the eye passes over you can see the clear patch in the middle. Of course, during our recent drought the whole map was constantly all white for weeks at a time so nobody bothered looking them up. These maps are automatically generated hourly by the Cray super-computer at the observatory here, whether it rains or not. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Don White To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 21:56:00 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ye ha! Wet stuff sighted - 100mm+ and still pouringdown! > Phil... how often are these isohyte maps of HK put out... daily? > weekly? > for each rain event? what? > > Thanks > Don White > [snip] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 21:12:42 +0100 (BST) From: Mario Paul Subject: aus-wx: Did Denver really get giant hail???? To: weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Jimmy here from Mario's computer computer. We watched some videos last night to pump us up a little. Suddenly we came up with footage from a hailstorm with massive chunks of hail. And then it clicked: I had seen this footage before and had forgotten. This ws the Denver hailstorm that injured people. So 4.5 inch hail was not exaggerated after all. The damge report like I had suggested was kept out of the database. The damage as you know was extensive. Well I will see you all later on the plains somewhere. We are expected to fly over the zone where tornadic supercells are expected to explode. Ummm does this mean turbulence. Jimmy Degara __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Hemispheric mirroring Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 06:14:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, There have been discussions on the list in the past regarding the tendency for the mirroring of systems across the equator between the hemispheres - it can often be seen quite clearly on satpics, but these 2 images are a brilliant example. They show 2 TC's - 1 near Madagascar & 1 in the Arabian Sea, and also TC Errol near the Cocos Islands and the (at this time) potential TC just over the equator. Visible image http://home.cfl.rr.com/tcrist/images/Twin_twins.jpg Infrared image http://home.cfl.rr.com/tcrist/images/MJO.jpg So now the questions.....why is it so???? why does this happen????? Many thanks to US Air Force Weather Agency (AFWA) and Tony Cristaldi of NWS in Melbourne, Florida for allowing the use of these images. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:03:23 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: "Ants" prediction of Rainfall From: Dale Small To: Aus-Wx X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20011031 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com "Ants" prediction of Rainfall Good Morning all.

Having just returned from a walk down and back the length of my 7.5 acre block, along the driveway i could not help but to notice the size of the ants nests, hundreds of them to be exact.

The "fortresses" i will call them (not over-exagerrating) are in some instances over 1.5 inches high, and are taking on an almost volcanic form. I have not seen the likes of this for at least 2-3 years here in SEQ and im wondering, are we in for something huge or am i dreaming of something that will not eventuate?

The nests themselves are loose, not compacted, but very high.. To me (judging by past experiences) it indicates a substantial fall in a very short period of time.

I could be way off the mark here but it certainly opened my eyes up just then, and on conversation with my mother, she has mentioned she has seen the same scenario for the last 2 weeks, only the last couple of days it has exploded, and there has been a reasonable amount of precipitation falling around Jimboomba in this period.

Further to that, the ants have decided to invade where this computer is situated and seem to think my Hard-Drive is a suitable place to establish a nest *eeps severly*

Any info at all would be much appreciated as i have continuously been going through models and other forecasting methods, but the creatures of nature seem to be telling a different tale.

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From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Tornadoes Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:16:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just saw an interesting news comment on forecasting the latest US tornadoes. Half an hour before the 'touch down' there is a burst of lightning activity. When it stops, a tornado funnel appears soon after. I haven't heard of this before...is anyone familiar? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned by Norton AntiVirus and is certified to be free of viruses. Keith Barnett Weather fanatic and classical piano player +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coldest night yet! Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 18:30:00 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Well few nights this month, we have had higher min up the foothills at 570 ft above sea level in Golden Grove than in Adelaide area and near the same for Noarlunga which gets higher min and Mt Lofty ranges as well. It happens like that before. It is due to inversion and other type like NE wind replace with warm air for the higher elevation while cool air remain near the SL, etc. It is very interesting. Last year I hardly get to 0C at night while Parafield AP on Adelaide plain did get to 0C last winter. While in late spring to summer season we would see gusty Southeasterly wind on foothills and South of brighton at night which will keep the temperature lower than in Adelaide plain overnight and may persist in the day time if this keeps up with more gusty SE wind. From Nathan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blair Trewin" To: Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coldest night yet! > > > > As regards tempertaure variations on calm nights - keep an eye on > > Coonabarabran and Coonabarabran Ap in NSW. The town is in a hollow and > > the temp site is close to the lowest poitn. The airport is higher and a > > few kms oiut of town. Usually, the Airports are colder than the towns - > > eg Goulburn, Parkes etc. > > This morning at 6 am Coonabarabran Town was 1.1 degrees..... the Airport > > less than 7 kms away was 13 degrees ! > > > > Don White > > The mean difference between the two Coonabarabran sites over the 10 > months of parallel records so far is around 5 degrees for minimum > temperature. 8-10 degrees is common on clear, calm nights, but > this week's sequence of 11-13 degree differences is the most > impressive yet. > > Blair > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Turbulence - was Did Denver really get giant hail???? Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:15:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jimmy, Surprisingly, probably not. I actually was on a flight from Houston to Denver once, notable by the massive thunderstorms we were flying around in the panhandle - when the Captain gets on the intercom and tells us that for those on the right side of the plane, there is a tornado visible on the ground. Of course I had an aisle seat and saw nothing no matter how much craning. The plane stayed in clear air and there was no significant turbulence that I recall - obviously would be different if you flew through one of these storms, lol. But I have noted many other occasions in Oz, where so long as the plane is in clear air, there is very little turbulence despite awesome development outside. Likewise a year or so ago, when we flew over an anvil in northern NSW, and I was watching spectacular anvil crawlers passing underneath the aircraft. Guess I'll have to accept that Denver report then! John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Mario Paul Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:13 AM To: weather Subject: aus-wx: Did Denver really get giant hail???? Hi all, Jimmy here from Mario's computer computer. We watched some videos last night to pump us up a little. Suddenly we came up with footage from a hailstorm with massive chunks of hail. And then it clicked: I had seen this footage before and had forgotten. This ws the Denver hailstorm that injured people. So 4.5 inch hail was not exaggerated after all. The damge report like I had suggested was kept out of the database. The damage as you know was extensive. Well I will see you all later on the plains somewhere. We are expected to fly over the zone where tornadic supercells are expected to explode. Ummm does this mean turbulence. Jimmy Degara __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Re: Nathan from Golden Grove Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:31:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Nathan from Golden Grove. Being at 570m do you see snow falls each winter there? Have you seen snow cover the ground? What's the highest suburb of the Adelaide hills & is it more likely to receive snow there? Where else in SA does it snow? Damian +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Hemispheric mirroring Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:30:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane, My un-scientific thouhgts... I am tempted to draw the analogy of the twin vortices that occur when you drag a paddle through water. The triggering mechanism may be a westerly push along the equator, instigated perhaps by the generation of a large low pressure area over indonesia - and perhaps the twin vortices are merely a manifestation of coriolis force at the N & S extremes of a trans-equator convergence zone. That being so, you would expect to see this behaviour more prevalent during the switch in monsoonal seasons - i.e., late spring and late autumn. John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:15 AM To: Aussie-wx Subject: aus-wx: Hemispheric mirroring Morning all, There have been discussions on the list in the past regarding the tendency for the mirroring of systems across the equator between the hemispheres - it can often be seen quite clearly on satpics, but these 2 images are a brilliant example. They show 2 TC's - 1 near Madagascar & 1 in the Arabian Sea, and also TC Errol near the Cocos Islands and the (at this time) potential TC just over the equator. Visible image http://home.cfl.rr.com/tcrist/images/Twin_twins.jpg Infrared image http://home.cfl.rr.com/tcrist/images/MJO.jpg So now the questions.....why is it so???? why does this happen????? Many thanks to US Air Force Weather Agency (AFWA) and Tony Cristaldi of NWS in Melbourne, Florida for allowing the use of these images. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: Nathan from Golden Grove Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:14:45 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Damian, Ah I don't get snow here every year. It is actually 570 ft, not 570m though. Mt Lofty ranges rarely get snow (Higher part), happens once every 5 years or so whatever that is and can happen to the higher part of Flinder ranges that can be possible too I think. I get lots of hail in winter during the good cold pool weather activity. From Nathan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: aus-wx: Re: Nathan from Golden Grove > Hi Nathan from Golden Grove. > Being at 570m do you see snow falls each winter there? Have you seen snow > cover the ground? What's the highest suburb of the Adelaide hills & is it > more likely to receive snow there? > Where else in SA does it snow? > > > > Damian > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornadoes Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 14:43:27 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Not at all unusual Keith, as tornadoes are caused by rising heat between full moon and last quarter phase and rising heat will make the air dry enough for the static charge potential differences necessary for electrical disturbance. I don't know the time of these events, but I think if you chase it up you'll find the moon is either on or near the horizon or at IC, - at the very least the moon is most likely to be out of the local sky when they both occurred. Ken Ring www.predictweather.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:16 PM Subject: aus-wx: Tornadoes > Just saw an interesting news comment on forecasting the latest US tornadoes. > Half an hour before the 'touch down' there is a burst of lightning activity. > When it stops, a tornado funnel appears soon after. > I haven't heard of this before...is anyone familiar? > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned by Norton AntiVirus and is certified to be > free of viruses. > > Keith Barnett > Weather fanatic and classical piano player > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: "Ants" prediction of Rainfall Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:34:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com "Ants" prediction of Rainfall
Hi Dale,
 
I also have noticed this on my block out at Mt. Crosby.  But, I put it down to the ants doing a bit of rapid house cleaning after a period of wet weather, which no doubt has kept the ants indoors plus flooded them with water to say nothing of washing sand and earth into ant holes.
 
So, no I don't think it is a prediction so much as a cleanup.  What is good about this is I now know where to put the Antrid.
 
John.
>snip
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Dale Small
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:03 AM
To: Aus-Wx
Subject: aus-wx: "Ants" prediction of Rainfall

Good Morning all.

Having just returned from a walk down and back the length of my 7.5 acre block, along the driveway i could not help but to notice the size of the ants nests, hundreds of them to be exact.

The "fortresses" i will call them (not over-exagerrating) are in some instances over 1.5 inches high, and are taking on an almost volcanic form. I have not seen the likes of this for at least 2-3 years here in SEQ and im wondering, are we in for something huge or am i dreaming of something that will not eventuate?

The nests themselves are loose, not compacted, but very high.. To me (judging by past experiences) it indicates a substantial fall in a very short period of time.

I could be way off the mark here but it certainly opened my eyes up just then, and on conversation with my mother, she has mentioned she has seen the same scenario for the last 2 weeks, only the last couple of days it has exploded, and there has been a reasonable amount of precipitation falling around Jimboomba in this period.

Further to that, the ants have decided to invade where this computer is situated and seem to think my Hard-Drive is a suitable place to establish a nest *eeps severly*

Any info at all would be much appreciated as i have continuously been going through models and other forecasting methods, but the creatures of nature seem to be telling a different tale.

Regards,
Dale
X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:54:42 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: aus-wx: Another strong cold front Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Our 3rd strong front in a week forecast to move over the coast late tonight or early tomorrow, here's the forecast: FORECAST FOR THE PERTH METROPOLITAN AREA Issued at 8:30am WST on Friday the 10th of May 2002 for today and tonight FORECAST: A shower or two, increasing during the day. Showers becoming heavy tonight with thunderstorms, squalls and local heavy falls. NW winds strengthening tonight. MAXIMUM TEMPERATURE: 24 Also a Severe Wind Warning has just been issued: SEVERE WIND WARNING Issued at 10:20 am WST on Friday, 10 May 2002 A Severe Wind Warning has been issued for all areas west of a line from Cape Naturaliste to Walpole for this afternoon extending north to Jurien Bay and east to Bremer Bay for tonight. Several strong prefrontal cloud lines are expected to cross the lower south west this afternoon with an intense cold front to move through the SW Land Division tonight with accompanying severe thunderstorms. Severe wind squalls to 110 km/h are possible in areas west of Cape Naturaliste to Walpole this afternoon extending north and east to remaining parts of the warning area as the front moves through overnight. Jacob +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Re: Nathan from Golden Grove Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 13:04:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com What about Mt Lofty which is over 700 metres? Surely it must snow there each year? Is Crafers the highest town in the Adelaide hills? What's the highest town in the Flinders Ranges & how high would it be in Metres? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornadoes Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:54:09 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Kieth, Here is what I think... It has been previously observed that there is a burst of CG lightning associated with the onset of a downburst. The reason for this has been discussed on the list before, but the thought process is that the downburst consists of a large mass of previously suspended charged particles (precipitation - hail/rain). When this moves downward, it dramatically alters the holistic arrangement of charge within the cloud and hence potential differences (PD). The rash of CG's occurs as the PD to ground increases to reach breakdown. This is also why the majority of CG's are closely associated with the precip region IMO. You can also get very loud spectacular CG's when breakdown occurs between Anvil and ground - but this is much less usual. Onset of a downburst, in particular the RFD (Rear Flank Downdraft) in a Supercell is a triggering condition for a tornado as the updraft region becomes constricted and the RFD induces horizontal wind shear assisting vorticity and lifting in the lower region of the storm. Thus it presents as a correlation between the burst of CG's and onset of a Tornado. But this is a guess, i.e., just my thoughts from observation - no scientific facts to support it and I might be woefully wrong. John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Keith Barnett Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:17 AM To: Weather list Subject: aus-wx: Tornadoes Just saw an interesting news comment on forecasting the latest US tornadoes. Half an hour before the 'touch down' there is a burst of lightning activity. When it stops, a tornado funnel appears soon after. I haven't heard of this before...is anyone familiar? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned by Norton AntiVirus and is certified to be free of viruses. 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Ken Ring www.predictweather.com the home of longrange forecasting ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob" To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > > Our 3rd strong front in a week forecast to move over the coast late tonight > or early tomorrow, here's the forecast: > > FORECAST FOR THE PERTH METROPOLITAN AREA > Issued at 8:30am WST on Friday the 10th of May 2002 for today and tonight > > FORECAST: > A shower or two, increasing during the day. Showers becoming heavy tonight with > thunderstorms, squalls and local heavy falls. NW winds strengthening tonight. > > MAXIMUM TEMPERATURE: 24 > > Also a Severe Wind Warning has just been issued: > > SEVERE WIND WARNING > Issued at 10:20 am WST on Friday, 10 May 2002 > > A Severe Wind Warning has been issued for all areas west of a line from Cape > Naturaliste to Walpole for this afternoon extending north to Jurien Bay and > east > to Bremer Bay for tonight. > > Several strong prefrontal cloud lines are expected to cross the lower south > west > this afternoon with an intense cold front to move through the SW Land Division > tonight with accompanying severe thunderstorms. Severe wind squalls to 110 km/h > are possible in areas west of Cape Naturaliste to Walpole this afternoon > extending north and east to remaining parts of the warning area as the front > moves through overnight. > > Jacob > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Does everyone recommend I buy this?? 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Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\Damian.vcf" X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 14:02:21 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: was - Nathan from Golden Grove = snow Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >What about Mt Lofty which is over 700 metres? Surely it must snow there each >year? Is Crafers the highest town in the Adelaide hills? >What's the highest town in the Flinders Ranges & how high would it be in >Metres? > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ I'll weigh in there, with apologies in advance to Nathan. Mt Lofty is the highest spot in the southern Mt Lofty ranges at 720m. Crafers is the highest town in the area at about 600m. This area will get about one light snowfall per year - some years none, some years two. I've seen snow up there on several occasions. Never lies for very long though. Mt Bryan is the highest spot in the Northern Mt Lofty ranges at 936m. There is an extensive area over 600m in this area and a more continental climate with heavy frosts. This is the area with the most frequent and heaviest falls in SA, along with: The Southern Flinders ranges, with Mts Brown and Remarkable at 970m. Once again a fall about once a year might be expected on these mountains. Further north, St Mary Peak in Wilpena Pound is 1171m, but it's further north and more continental again, often out of the way of the coldest, moistest air masses - but it still gets the odd fall of snow. I've even seen video of snow falling on Mt Hack (1087m) in the Northern Flinders - I'm not sure what the atmospheric setup was there - perhaps a cut off easterly low rather that the classic southerly outbreak? www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2/WeatherWX.html for some historic shots...... Cheers Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: was - Nathan from Golden Grove = snow Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 14:20:29 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Phil, no worry, I wasn't be abled to answer that sort of this email to Damian about the height of the hills and mountain cos I had no idea, I am appreciated that you are here to answer to Damian at this time. I thought that snow only happens every 5 years or so. But or so would be meant to be less than 5 years or more than 5 years anyway. From Nathan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bagust" To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:02 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: was - Nathan from Golden Grove = snow > >What about Mt Lofty which is over 700 metres? Surely it must snow there each > >year? Is Crafers the highest town in the Adelaide hills? > >What's the highest town in the Flinders Ranges & how high would it be in > >Metres? > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > I'll weigh in there, with apologies in advance to Nathan. > > Mt Lofty is the highest spot in the southern Mt Lofty ranges at 720m. > Crafers is the highest town in the area at about 600m. This area will get > about one light snowfall per year - some years none, some years two. I've > seen snow up there on several occasions. Never lies for very long though. > > Mt Bryan is the highest spot in the Northern Mt Lofty ranges at 936m. There > is an extensive area over 600m in this area and a more continental climate > with heavy frosts. This is the area with the most frequent and heaviest > falls in SA, along with: > > The Southern Flinders ranges, with Mts Brown and Remarkable at 970m. Once > again a fall about once a year might be expected on these mountains. > > Further north, St Mary Peak in Wilpena Pound is 1171m, but it's further > north and more continental again, often out of the way of the coldest, > moistest air masses - but it still gets the odd fall of snow. I've even > seen video of snow falling on Mt Hack (1087m) in the Northern Flinders - > I'm not sure what the atmospheric setup was there - perhaps a cut off > easterly low rather that the classic southerly outbreak? > > www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2/WeatherWX.html > > for some historic shots...... > > Cheers > > Phil > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornadoes Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 14:25:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 May 2002 04:25:54.0169 (UTC) FILETIME=[C61B3E90:01C1F7DA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yeah i saw that on Ch9 morning news, its from NASA, but i have seen footage of tornados with lightning going off around it, and of course there is that famous pic os a nice stove pipe tornado with a thick Cg right next to it Cheers --------------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------- This Email is virus free. 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Virus definition file 01-05-2002. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:16 AM Subject: aus-wx: Tornadoes > Just saw an interesting news comment on forecasting the latest US tornadoes. > Half an hour before the 'touch down' there is a burst of lightning activity. > When it stops, a tornado funnel appears soon after. > I haven't heard of this before...is anyone familiar? > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned by Norton AntiVirus and is certified to be > free of viruses. > > Keith Barnett > Weather fanatic and classical piano player > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornadoes Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 14:33:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 May 2002 04:34:01.0969 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8DB9E10:01C1F7DB] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John On Febuary 13th 2001 i witnessed a spectacular microburst storm over centeral canberra, i do remember that Just as the microburst began, Thick Cgs began droping every second, previosly they were every 2 or 3 minutes and wern't that spectacular. they were mainly embeded in the rain curtain so i only saw 4 or 5 outside of it, the thunder was unlike any i've ever heard, Loud, deep, but muffled, if you get what i mean... Cheers --------------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------- This Email is virus free. Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. Virus definition file 01-05-2002. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Tornadoes > Hi Kieth, > > Here is what I think... > > It has been previously observed that there is a burst of CG lightning > associated with the onset of a downburst. The reason for this has been > discussed on the list before, but the thought process is that the downburst > consists of a large mass of previously suspended charged particles > (precipitation - hail/rain). When this moves downward, it dramatically > alters the holistic arrangement of charge within the cloud and hence > potential differences (PD). The rash of CG's occurs as the PD to ground > increases to reach breakdown. This is also why the majority of CG's are > closely associated with the precip region IMO. You can also get very loud > spectacular CG's when breakdown occurs between Anvil and ground - but this > is much less usual. > > Onset of a downburst, in particular the RFD (Rear Flank Downdraft) in a > Supercell is a triggering condition for a tornado as the updraft region > becomes constricted and the RFD induces horizontal wind shear assisting > vorticity and lifting in the lower region of the storm. > > Thus it presents as a correlation between the burst of CG's and onset of a > Tornado. > > But this is a guess, i.e., just my thoughts from observation - no scientific > facts to support it and I might be woefully wrong. > > John. > >snip > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Keith Barnett > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:17 AM > To: Weather list > Subject: aus-wx: Tornadoes > > > Just saw an interesting news comment on forecasting the latest US tornadoes. > Half an hour before the 'touch down' there is a burst of lightning activity. > When it stops, a tornado funnel appears soon after. > I haven't heard of this before...is anyone familiar? > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned by Norton AntiVirus and is certified to be > free of viruses. > > Keith Barnett > Weather fanatic and classical piano player > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Another strong cold front Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 15:31:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Ken, Can I take it that this forecast is based purely upon your long range methods relating to lunar movement, and takes no account whatsoever of current Southern hemisphere surface level mean sea level analysis? Regards, John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Ken Ring Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:15 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front Expect rain in Perth from 11th-13th, 17th-23rd, and after 26th..give or take a day in each window. Ken Ring www.predictweather.com the home of longrange forecasting +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 14:52:22 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Turbulence - was Did Denver really get giant hail???? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jimmy... I was once "stuck" in Denver Airport in January with a temp of -7 C because of a "cloud"of frozen air polliution haning in the sky at 1500 feet. Now, that's what they'll called then Denver's biggest ever hailstone - and it never fell ! Don W John Woodbridge wrote: > > Hi Jimmy, > > Surprisingly, probably not. I actually was on a flight from Houston to > Denver once, notable by the massive thunderstorms we were flying around in > the panhandle - when the Captain gets on the intercom and tells us that for > those on the right side of the plane, there is a tornado visible on the > ground. Of course I had an aisle seat and saw nothing no matter how much > craning. The plane stayed in clear air and there was no significant > turbulence that I recall - obviously would be different if you flew through > one of these storms, lol. > > But I have noted many other occasions in Oz, where so long as the plane is > in clear air, there is very little turbulence despite awesome development > outside. Likewise a year or so ago, when we flew over an anvil in northern > NSW, and I was watching spectacular anvil crawlers passing underneath the > aircraft. > > Guess I'll have to accept that Denver report then! > > John. > >snip > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Mario Paul > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:13 AM > To: weather > Subject: aus-wx: Did Denver really get giant hail???? > > Hi all, > > Jimmy here from Mario's computer computer. We watched > some videos last night to pump us up a little. > Suddenly we came up with footage from a hailstorm with > massive chunks of hail. And then it clicked: I had > seen this footage before and had forgotten. This ws > the Denver hailstorm that injured people. So 4.5 inch > hail was not exaggerated after all. The damge report > like I had suggested was kept out of the database. The > damage as you know was extensive. > > Well I will see you all later on the plains somewhere. > > We are expected to fly over the zone where tornadic > supercells are expected to explode. Ummm does this > mean turbulence. > > Jimmy Degara > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Tim Eckert To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [203.220.183.108] Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 16:36:12 +1000 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: was - Nathan from Golden Grove = snow Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Damian, For some photos and a report from one of the biggest snowfalls in recent years in the Adelaide Hills check out my web site here: http://au.geocities.com/timjeckert/page8.html Tim. Original message from: "Nathan Thompson" > >Phil, no worry, I wasn't be abled to answer that sort of this email to >Damian about the height of the hills and mountain cos I had no idea, I am >appreciated that you are here to answer to Damian at this time. I thought >that snow only happens every 5 years or so. But or so would be meant to be >less than 5 years or more than 5 years anyway. > >From Nathan. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Phil Bagust" >To: >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:02 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: was - Nathan from Golden Grove = snow > > >> >What about Mt Lofty which is over 700 metres? Surely it must snow there >each >> >year? Is Crafers the highest town in the Adelaide hills? >> >What's the highest town in the Flinders Ranges & how high would it be in >> >Metres? >> > >> > >> > >> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> > message. >> > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - >> >> I'll weigh in there, with apologies in advance to Nathan. >> >> Mt Lofty is the highest spot in the southern Mt Lofty ranges at 720m. >> Crafers is the highest town in the area at about 600m. This area will get >> about one light snowfall per year - some years none, some years two. I've >> seen snow up there on several occasions. Never lies for very long though. >> >> Mt Bryan is the highest spot in the Northern Mt Lofty ranges at 936m. >There >> is an extensive area over 600m in this area and a more continental climate >> with heavy frosts. This is the area with the most frequent and heaviest >> falls in SA, along with: >> >> The Southern Flinders ranges, with Mts Brown and Remarkable at 970m. Once >> again a fall about once a year might be expected on these mountains. >> >> Further north, St Mary Peak in Wilpena Pound is 1171m, but it's further >> north and more continental again, often out of the way of the coldest, >> moistest air masses - but it still gets the odd fall of snow. I've even >> seen video of snow falling on Mt Hack (1087m) in the Northern Flinders - >> I'm not sure what the atmospheric setup was there - perhaps a cut off >> easterly low rather that the classic southerly outbreak? >> >> www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2/WeatherWX.html >> >> for some historic shots...... >> >> Cheers >> >> Phil >> >> >> Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au >> - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - >> "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward >> >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - >> > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - >. > __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 18:56:21 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John Yes, only lunar algorithms used. Nothing else, not even local data. Definitely not sea surface temperatures as I'm sorry to say I wouldn't know where to access them. all the best Ken www.predictweather.com the home of longrange forecasting ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:31 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > Hi Ken, > > Can I take it that this forecast is based purely upon your long range > methods relating to lunar movement, and takes no account whatsoever of > current Southern hemisphere surface level mean sea level analysis? > > Regards, > John. > >snip > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Ken Ring > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:15 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > > > Expect rain in Perth from 11th-13th, 17th-23rd, and after 26th..give or take > a day in each window. > Ken Ring > www.predictweather.com > the home of longrange forecasting > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 17:37:49 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Expect rain in Perth from 11th-13th, 17th-23rd, and after 26th..give or take > a day in each window. > Ken Ring > www.predictweather.com > the home of longrange forecasting > Just clarifying what you mean here (taking the 11th-13th forecast as an example) - what is your requirement for a correct forecast here? (a) rain on at least one of the days 10-14 May (b) rain on three consecutive days in the 10-14 May period, with no other constraints (c) rain on three consecutive days in the 10-14 May period, with dry days before and after (d) something else? Quite apart from any consideration of the current short-range forecast, the chance that any given five-day period in Perth will have at least one day with rain is around 90% at this time of year, so a forecast under the rules of (a) is shooting fish in a barrel, but I'll be more impressed by sustained skill under rules (b) or (c). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Another strong cold front Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 17:43:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com With respect, if you shot fish in a barrel you would no doubt miss because all the water would quickly drain out leaving them flapping around in whatever is left in the bottom of the barrel. (sorry, it is Friday afternoon, i couldn't resist it). -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Blair Trewin Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:38 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > > Expect rain in Perth from 11th-13th, 17th-23rd, and after 26th..give or take > a day in each window. > Ken Ring > www.predictweather.com > the home of longrange forecasting > Just clarifying what you mean here (taking the 11th-13th forecast as an example) - what is your requirement for a correct forecast here? (a) rain on at least one of the days 10-14 May (b) rain on three consecutive days in the 10-14 May period, with no other constraints (c) rain on three consecutive days in the 10-14 May period, with dry days before and after (d) something else? Quite apart from any consideration of the current short-range forecast, the chance that any given five-day period in Perth will have at least one day with rain is around 90% at this time of year, so a forecast under the rules of (a) is shooting fish in a barrel, but I'll be more impressed by sustained skill under rules (b) or (c). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Graham" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: email a.d Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 17:17:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, As dingoblue has a bad case of distemper & is about to be put to sleep, I have changed isp's to dot.net...new email a.d is down below in the sig. Cheer's John from Ballina ____________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________ John Graham gorzzz at d2.net.au or gorzzz at yahoo.com Icq 25440353 Member of The Australian Severe Weather Assoc. ASWA Homepage http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ Snail Mail: P.O. Box 1072 Ballina 2478 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 20:25:13 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com sorry, continuous rain between those dates..I should have clarified it. And continuous dry in the gaps between those dates. Otherwise the fish in the barrel thing would apply. So I reckon all three: (a), (b) AND (c) would be my intention. Here's a 20 day opportunity to see if little Miss Luna can deliver any goods. Of course the method's not tied to Perth either - just as easy to do it for anywhere.. regards Ken www.predictweather.com the home of longrange forecasting ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blair Trewin" To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:37 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > > > > Expect rain in Perth from 11th-13th, 17th-23rd, and after 26th..give or take > > a day in each window. > > Ken Ring > > www.predictweather.com > > the home of longrange forecasting > > > > Just clarifying what you mean here (taking the 11th-13th forecast as > an example) - what is your requirement for a correct forecast here? > > (a) rain on at least one of the days 10-14 May > (b) rain on three consecutive days in the 10-14 May period, with no > other constraints > (c) rain on three consecutive days in the 10-14 May period, with dry > days before and after > (d) something else? > > Quite apart from any consideration of the current short-range > forecast, the chance that any given five-day period in Perth will have > at least one day with rain is around 90% at this time of year, so a > forecast under the rules of (a) is shooting fish in a barrel, but > I'll be more impressed by sustained skill under rules (b) or (c). > > Blair > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Another strong cold front Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 18:58:10 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com with respect, if you had a standard 200L wine darrel full of water and fish and half decent gun, say a 338 winchester magnum, firstly the bullet would never hit the bottom to put a hole in it, and secondly the concussion would kill all the fish. i'll use the same excuse as you john for this email. regards richard ----- Original Message ----- From: John Woodbridge To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:13 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > With respect, if you shot fish in a barrel you would no doubt miss because > all the water would quickly drain out leaving them flapping around in > whatever is left in the bottom of the barrel. > (sorry, it is Friday afternoon, i couldn't resist it). > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Blair Trewin > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:38 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > > > > > > Expect rain in Perth from 11th-13th, 17th-23rd, and after 26th..give or > take > > a day in each window. > > Ken Ring > > www.predictweather.com > > the home of longrange forecasting > > > > Just clarifying what you mean here (taking the 11th-13th forecast as > an example) - what is your requirement for a correct forecast here? > > (a) rain on at least one of the days 10-14 May > (b) rain on three consecutive days in the 10-14 May period, with no > other constraints > (c) rain on three consecutive days in the 10-14 May period, with dry > days before and after > (d) something else? > > Quite apart from any consideration of the current short-range > forecast, the chance that any given five-day period in Perth will have > at least one day with rain is around 90% at this time of year, so a > forecast under the rules of (a) is shooting fish in a barrel, but > I'll be more impressed by sustained skill under rules (b) or (c). > > Blair > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Dwyer" To: Subject: aus-wx: Wind Gusts in Perth... STW & SWW for the SW Land Division Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 18:26:35 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, We have had wind gusts to 81 Km/H 5 times already today, and a gust no long ago at Busselton Jetty just below 100 Km/H. Could be a windy night ahead for the SW Land Division The latest Gust at Rotto just hit 96Km/H Station Name Current Observations Extremes Date Time (AWST) Temp (deg C) Dew Point (deg C) Rel Hum (%) Wind Dir Wind Speed Wind Gust Press (hPa) Rain since 9am (mm) Max Temp (C) Min Temp (C) Max Wind Gust (km/h) (knots) (km/h) (knots) (km/h) (knots ROTTNEST ISLAND 10 18:20 19.0 16.4 85 NNW 70 38 96 52 1003.5 0.4 23.3 13:06 19.5 18:03 NNW 96 18:15 52 18:15 IDW28100 BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST SEVERE WIND WARNING Issued at 3:45 pm WST on Friday, 10 May 2002 A Severe Wind and Severe Thunderstorm Warning has been issued for all areas west of a line from Jurien Bay to Bremer Bay. Several strong prefrontal cloud lines are crossing the lower south west with an intense cold front to move through the SW Land Division tonight with accompanying severe thunderstorms. Squalls to 85 km/h have been reported in the South West District up until 3.30pm. Severe wind squalls to 110 km/h are possible in all parts of the warning area as the front moves through overnight. Next warning will be issued by 10.00 pm WST. MJ. E-Mail: mjd at iinet.net.au ICQ# 40431595 ----------------------------------------- State Representative ASWA - Western Australia: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ Co-Webmaster: http://www.dsw.au.com/ ----------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fw: Ice sheet wider than Channel breaks from Antarctica - Your News from Ananova Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 20:36:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For your interest. Love Sha Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:34 PM Subject: Ice sheet wider than Channel breaks from Antarctica - Your News from Ananova Another giant piece of ice has broken away from Antarctica. The sheet is big enough to stretch across the English Channel with 10 miles to spare. Scientists say it may be yet more evidence that Antarctica is breaking up due to global warming. The iceberg is 41 miles long and averages three miles wide. Full story: http://www.ananova.com/yournews/story/sm_584974.html * Climate change story sent by Ananova, your personal news assistant MANAGE YOUR NEWS: --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 19/04/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Does everyone recommend I buy this?? Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 20:32:04 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Damian,
 
I got myself one of them weather stations (WM-918) from Dick Smiths last week for that price ($298) & set it up at my place over the weekend, so i haven't had much time to find anything wrong with it, but so far i'm very happy with it for the money outlaid.
I was looking at the Weather Monitor II (see http://www.dar.csiro.au/airwatch/awweather.html &/or http://www.davisnet.com/weather/products/weather_mon.asp for specs & pics) but for a complete system that give u everything the Dick Smiths one does was going to cost over the $1,000 mark!
I've also hooked the weather station up to my computer and I'm running a program called "FreeWX" ( http://home.iprimus.com.au/andykeir/freewx.html ) to display the readings from the weather station. This program is far better then the "WeatherView (basic) PC software" that comes with the weather station. 
 
It all depends on what $$ u want to spend & how accurate u want your readings to be. The WM-918 takes readings from it sensors on avg. every 5sec. & some measurements are only in whole numbers (eg. 1 or 2 or 3, not 1.6 or 2.4 or 3.7 etc.) on some sensors (ie. the rain gauge & barometer) but remember - You Get What You Paid For  :)
 
Hope this helps
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:21 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Does everyone recommend I buy this??

 

Advanced Home Weather Station
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From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 00:21:28 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This forecasting sure is a complicated business. If you have a barrel with fish in it, I don't understand the need to shoot any when you can just reach in and grab one. And to get in the barrel they must have been caught beforehand so why go and stick them in a barrel. If you have to shoot something then shoot them in the freezer and the barrel won't leak. Or take them out and shoot them. Better still, eat them and shoot yourself. Alternatively just eat the gun. That preserves barrel, freezer, doesn't mess up the fish and you don't go hungry. The obvious is the best solution but we make things complicated. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:28 PM Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > with respect, if you had a standard 200L wine darrel full of water and fish > and half decent gun, say a 338 winchester magnum, firstly the bullet would > never hit the bottom to put a hole in it, and secondly the concussion would > kill all the fish. > i'll use the same excuse as you john for this email. > > regards richard > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Woodbridge > To: > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:13 PM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > > > > With respect, if you shot fish in a barrel you would no doubt miss because > > all the water would quickly drain out leaving them flapping around in > > whatever is left in the bottom of the barrel. > > (sorry, it is Friday afternoon, i couldn't resist it). > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Blair Trewin > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:38 PM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > > > > > > > > > > Expect rain in Perth from 11th-13th, 17th-23rd, and after 26th..give or > > take > > > a day in each window. > > > Ken Ring > > > www.predictweather.com > > > the home of longrange forecasting > > > > > > > Just clarifying what you mean here (taking the 11th-13th forecast as > > an example) - what is your requirement for a correct forecast here? > > > > (a) rain on at least one of the days 10-14 May > > (b) rain on three consecutive days in the 10-14 May period, with no > > other constraints > > (c) rain on three consecutive days in the 10-14 May period, with dry > > days before and after > > (d) something else? > > > > Quite apart from any consideration of the current short-range > > forecast, the chance that any given five-day period in Perth will have > > at least one day with rain is around 90% at this time of year, so a > > forecast under the rules of (a) is shooting fish in a barrel, but > > I'll be more impressed by sustained skill under rules (b) or (c). > > > > Blair > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 23:00:39 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Ring" To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:51 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > This forecasting sure is a complicated business. If you have a barrel with > fish in it, I don't understand the need to shoot any when you can just reach > in and grab one. And to get in the barrel they must have been caught > beforehand so why go and stick them in a barrel. If you have to shoot > something then shoot them in the freezer and the barrel won't leak. Or take > them out and shoot them. Better still, eat them and shoot yourself. > Alternatively just eat the gun. That preserves barrel, freezer, doesn't mess > up the fish and you don't go hungry. The obvious is the best solution but we > make things complicated. > Ken Umm... yeh... what he said ? :P Regs. Paul. 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Just saw ad for World Around Us on Prime/7,  this week's show is Extreme Weather.  On at 7.30pm
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Another strong cold front Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 00:25:05 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com good on ya ken, pmsl. regards richard ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Ring To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:51 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > This forecasting sure is a complicated business. If you have a barrel with > fish in it, I don't understand the need to shoot any when you can just reach > in and grab one. And to get in the barrel they must have been caught > beforehand so why go and stick them in a barrel. If you have to shoot > something then shoot them in the freezer and the barrel won't leak. Or take > them out and shoot them. Better still, eat them and shoot yourself. > Alternatively just eat the gun. That preserves barrel, freezer, doesn't mess > up the fish and you don't go hungry. The obvious is the best solution but we > make things complicated. > Ken > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "richard modistach" > To: "weather mailing list" > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:28 PM > Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > > > > with respect, if you had a standard 200L wine darrel full of water and > fish > > and half decent gun, say a 338 winchester magnum, firstly the bullet would > > never hit the bottom to put a hole in it, and secondly the concussion > would > > kill all the fish. > > i'll use the same excuse as you john for this email. > > > > regards richard > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John Woodbridge > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:13 PM > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > > > > > > > With respect, if you shot fish in a barrel you would no doubt miss > because > > > all the water would quickly drain out leaving them flapping around in > > > whatever is left in the bottom of the barrel. > > > (sorry, it is Friday afternoon, i couldn't resist it). > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Blair Trewin > > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:38 PM > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Expect rain in Perth from 11th-13th, 17th-23rd, and after 26th..give > or > > > take > > > > a day in each window. > > > > Ken Ring > > > > www.predictweather.com > > > > the home of longrange forecasting > > > > > > > > > > Just clarifying what you mean here (taking the 11th-13th forecast as > > > an example) - what is your requirement for a correct forecast here? > > > > > > (a) rain on at least one of the days 10-14 May > > > (b) rain on three consecutive days in the 10-14 May period, with no > > > other constraints > > > (c) rain on three consecutive days in the 10-14 May period, with dry > > > days before and after > > > (d) something else? > > > > > > Quite apart from any consideration of the current short-range > > > forecast, the chance that any given five-day period in Perth will have > > > at least one day with rain is around 90% at this time of year, so a > > > forecast under the rules of (a) is shooting fish in a barrel, but > > > I'll be more impressed by sustained skill under rules (b) or (c). > > > > > > Blair > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > Attachment Converted: laugh2.gif: 00000001,00000001,00000000,2be0e350 From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Does everyone recommend I buy this?? 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Hi,
 
We bought complete davis weather monitor for $1,200 plus weatherlink software include datalogger which was $250 discounted, was $379 that offered from Misho. It has big cups anemometer, big rain gauge, Thermometer/hygrometer sensor, console, junction box, junction cable and all connect to it. It run thru datalogger to save before I download on the computer once a day to save into disk. Very useful system but very expensive indeed compare to Dick Smith one. More reliable and robust than that though. Although the problem is we had to calibrate the rain gauge and humidity every year. BoM recommended us to checkup all these to see if any possible calibration need twice a year. Tipping bucket rain gauge need to have 12,500 tips to bed in to get more accurate reading. At the start which is new will be 10% out of accuracy and require to do calibration possible twice a year to compare with 203mm size of manual rain gauge or 4" Nylex rain gauge that can be purchase from local hardware shop such as mitre 10 or whatever. (Thats from BoM that advised about the accuracy of tipping bucket rain gauge) Overall very good but not too accurate as set of BoM weather station though. Wind speed reading taken every 2.25 seconds while direction every 2 seconds while other will update when there is any change of temperature, humidity and barometer. Unfortunately we had a bad luck twice. First anemometer died on August last year and had to get replacement for second one. 2nd time been pushing 10m standard pole up again. So not good. (was at our own risk of pushing up to the air before I tight the big nut bolt in a hurry) While datalogger stopped working last year on late March and had to get replacement. So we did. Cost us total of nearly $600 for replacement.
 
Anyway. Overall very good that I am satisfied with. But I recommended Dick Smith weather station who can't afford to purchase Davis weather station though.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Does everyone recommend I buy this??

Hi Damian,
 
I got myself one of them weather stations (WM-918) from Dick Smiths last week for that price ($298) & set it up at my place over the weekend, so i haven't had much time to find anything wrong with it, but so far i'm very happy with it for the money outlaid.
I was looking at the Weather Monitor II (see http://www.dar.csiro.au/airwatch/awweather.html &/or http://www.davisnet.com/weather/products/weather_mon.asp for specs & pics) but for a complete system that give u everything the Dick Smiths one does was going to cost over the $1,000 mark!
I've also hooked the weather station up to my computer and I'm running a program called "FreeWX" ( http://home.iprimus.com.au/andykeir/freewx.html ) to display the readings from the weather station. This program is far better then the "WeatherView (basic) PC software" that comes with the weather station. 
 
It all depends on what $$ u want to spend & how accurate u want your readings to be. The WM-918 takes readings from it sensors on avg. every 5sec. & some measurements are only in whole numbers (eg. 1 or 2 or 3, not 1.6 or 2.4 or 3.7 etc.) on some sensors (ie. the rain gauge & barometer) but remember - You Get What You Paid For  :)
 
Hope this helps
 
Regs. Paul.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:21 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Does everyone recommend I buy this??

 

Advanced Home Weather Station
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From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: aus-wx: Cb's from Space Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 03:01:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 May 2002 17:01:52.0645 (UTC) FILETIME=[61DD6B50:01C1F844] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
i was going through my Hard drive and came across amazing pics from Space,
I have created a gallery and uploaded to my website at www.canberra-wx.com
Look at the news and you'll see the link to them there. (it should be fully up by early morning)
 
My favorite would have to be this one though www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/space.jpg
enjoy
 

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From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cb's from Space Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 03:35:06 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 May 2002 17:35:56.0536 (UTC) FILETIME=[241E6F80:01C1F849] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
i have also zoomed in on the main attraction
www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/spacezoom.jpg

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Hi all,
i was going through my Hard drive and came across amazing pics from Space,
I have created a gallery and uploaded to my website at www.canberra-wx.com
Look at the news and you'll see the link to them there. (it should be fully up by early morning)
 
My favorite would have to be this one though www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/space.jpg
enjoy
 

Cheers
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User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 08:34:07 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Ants" prediction of Rainfall From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20011031 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: "Ants" prediction of Rainfall Mmm luckily it doesnt cost anything to dream a little
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From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Hi Dale,

I also have noticed this on my block out at Mt. Crosby.  But, I put it down to the ants doing a bit of rapid house cleaning after a period of wet weather, which no doubt has kept the ants indoors plus flooded them with water to say nothing of washing sand and earth into ant holes.

So, no I don't think it is a prediction so much as a cleanup.  What is good about this is I now know where to put the Antrid.

John.
From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Does everyone recommend I buy this?? Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 09:14:52 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Yes, I will reccomend it Damien. I have one and it is rather good.
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:51 PM
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From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Worst chase Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 09:29:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Monring all, With more & more of us travelling greater distances in search of amazing weather, this email from the wx-chase list serves as a reminder to be careful & be prepared for anything!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 19:58:38 -0500 From: Chris Novy Subject: Worst chase of my life 5-8-02 Wednesday has to be the worst chase day of my life. That I didn't see any tornadoes or decent storm structure was nothing new for me. Here's some details. Original target area: UIN-PIA-GBG-DVN Eventual destination: MO/IA border SE of DSM WX: Cirrus overcast, torrential rains Mark Sefried, Scot Kampas and I departed PIA for the Quad Cities mid morning. We were hopeful about the massive clearing over IA and the projected CAPES and dew points. We selected IA because the road network is better than NE MO (where the SPC MDT was) and we wanted to sty closer to (but on on) the warm front. On the way out west I got stuck behind an old lady do 45-50 in a 60 zone. When I had my first opportunity to pass an oncoming cop spooked her and she hit the brakes --putting me into a tailgating situation. The cop continued an and I passed the lady at the next zone. Suddenly up comes charging the same cop from behind and he pulls me over. This would be the first of many times I would be stopped that day. He wants to know what I'm doing with all the gear in my car. I tell him we're out storm spotting. He then informs me that the reason he stopped me is because I didn't get back into my lane before the passing zone ended. He was wrong, I did get back in time. He was more than 2000 feet behind me when I completed the pass and he was telling me that his calibrated eyeballs could tell that I didn't get back into my lane. Yea right! He then says he has it all on video. I've learned a long time ago not to argue with cops. If he writes me a ticket I could win it but it would mean another trip to IA, wasted money, and more grief. I reiterated my stance that I did no wrong and the cop let me go without a ticket, warning or anything. My guess is he thought I was one of those evil storm chasers and he wanted to **** with me. When I lived in Austin I had a cop once tell me "we arrest storm chasers boy". I now thankfully live back in IL. Data was horrible. Mark had continued problems with his laptop and getting into analog dial-in systems. He's using an Motorola Timeport 8767 and an Ositech modem. Anyone else experienced problems like this? I know most chasers are probably using Noikia phones. I had decent digital coverage but none of the digital sites supported the Verizon direct IP connections so I had no data on my laptop. We visited two different public libraries to get data. Both required that we signed in and one required I complete two page form saying I wasn't going to download child porn or start WW III with their computers. The models looked good but the weather didn't cooperate. The wonderful clearing we had seen was quickly replaced by thickening cirrus blowoff from storms developing over NE and KS. All our lovely Cu went away and the temperature started falling. We decided to head south to intercept a storm near IRK but let it go and made straight for the IA/MO border on Rt 65 to catch some storms which our nowcasters (Blake Naftel and Mark's brother) basically said "they look like garbage but they are the best garbage in town". The storms quickly became linear with no definition. They were moving NE at 50 MPH, the 60, and finally one warning said 75 MPH! Forget it, we're heading back home! On the slow and painful drive back on Rt 136 we got stuck behind numerous extremely slow drivers (30-40 MPH tops). That said, any time I pushed my vehicle above 52 MPH it started hydroplaning badly. My tires are about at the end of their life and I didn't want to risk an accident so we just plodded home in the torrential rain. About 10 miles west of Keokuk, IA while on a desolate, deserted, stretch of Rt 136 there was a sudden bang! Well actually it was more like a sudden pop. The rear window hatchback exploded inward showering the vehicle with glass. We quickly stopped. There was no lightning and there were no obstructions on the road. We had only been doing 50 MPH in moderate rain and the occasional big CG flash. I used my spot light to survey the area and all I saw was a piece of bare metal wire about 10 feet long laying in the grass. I couldn't find any downed wires, poles, or signs of damage. There were no tornado-like winds to speak of (before or after the event). I also noticed that my river's side tail light assembly was completely shattered and that I had a slight dent near the gas cap on the left rear of the car and on the tail gate. All I can figure is that we ran over something which wrapped around the tire and slapped into the back window or we were struck by something. All I know is the glass came inside the vehicle and I lost a tire and a tail light. We drove into Keokuk to assess the damage. My car started making funny noises. We pulled over and discovered my left rear tire was flat. All the damage had been to the left rear of the vehicle. I changed the tire under a gas station canopy and fortunately they has a air machine since my spare had only 10 PSI. We stopped by a mini mart and fashioned a new rear window out of cardboard, trash bags, and duct tape. The color cover on my left brake light had been shattered and I wanted to stop at Walmart to get some tail light tape but Keokuk rolls up it's streets after 5PM. It was already close to midnight now. We hobbled out of Keokuk crossing the Mississippi back into Illinois. Shortly after that an Illinois State Police car passed me going the other way. He radared me --I was doing 54 in a 55. I remember seeing his plate, 14-44, and saying "he's going to stop me". He turned around and stopped me. When he came up to the window I said "Hi 14-44!" He sort of smiled. I told him what had happened back in IA and that we were trying to get back to PIA before my car flooded. We chatted for a fee minutes about our common home towns (southern Illinois) and he cut me lose. No hassles, much nicer than that IA cop. We got to Macomb, IL and another local cop radared me. This time I was slowing down, passing through 43, on my way to 35 in a 35 zone. He too turned around and stopped me. He approached my car with his had on his gun. He was very nice and mentioned the tail light was why he focused attention on me and said that when he saw the trash bag windows he decided to stop me. I can understand the hand on gun thing considering he was pulling over a vehicle with a smashed out window and in which he couldn't see the occupants. Like the IA cop he too asked me what al my gear was. I think both cops phased it as "who are you?". He never asked to see my license and told me where to find the Walmart. We stopped by Walmart, got the fixit tape, and I was back in business. We got back to PIA about 2:30 AM. I replaced the tail light assembly myself today. $60 The flat tire cost $18 but the lift-it crank thingy broke and I need a new winch. I was able to unbolt it myself so I'll get a new one at the dealer tomorrow and put it on myself. I sent about an hour vacuuming the glass out of my car. It's still in my PC and in my hair --after two washings! The back window glass came in this afternoon but the bolts that attach to my pistons (that hold the glass hatchback up) were rusted. I had to order new ones and they won't be here until tomorrow --about the time I have to leave for a job interview in Champaign. Looks like I'll be back in business Saturday unless there are other problems. Lessons learned: Cirrus sucks! Some IA cops really suck. I still need to get satellite data in the car. Cellular data is not reliable. Use Street Atlas to find libraries/data stops more often. Always keep your video camera running in case you need evidence against an IA cop who lies about your passing in a no passing zone. Always carry a roll of plastic sheeting, duct tape, and tail light tape. We lost about 1/2 hour in travel time being constantly arrested. I need new tires badly. Always make sure your spare has air! Total Miles: 550 Cost of trip: About $1 per mile http://weather.siu.edu/miscpix/tail.jpg http://weather.siu.edu/miscpix/back.jpg ---------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew" To: Subject: aus-wx: US Storms (W and SW Texas) Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 11:42:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2002 01:44:32.0962 (UTC) FILETIME=[66120A20:01C1F88D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Morning all,
 
For those following the action in the US there are some very nice storms at the moment in W and SW Texas with the line of storms expected to develop further N over the next 2-3 hours.
 
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goes8conusir.html  <--- sat pic - if you click on the area you want it has a great zoom in http://weather.cod.edu/wx/public/raob/mafskewt.GIF   <--- Skew T from where that action is
The current mesoscale discussion and severe storm warnings suggest hail to 3 inches (7.5cm) in the 3 large storms in SW Tx and they suggest hail to 2 inches in the storms currently developing in the Texas panhandle near Amarillo.
 
Regards,
 
Andrew McDonald
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 12:29:02 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather Subject: aus-wx: La Plata F5 damage pics. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/hunter8812001/lst?.dir=/La+Plata+F-5+Hurricane&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Duncan & Mandy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: was - Nathan from Golden Grove = snow Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 13:50:08 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Whaddaya reckon is the highest town in the Flinders Ranges? Melrose? Quorn? Hawker? Not that is really matters - just curious. Good to see Adelaide is getting some wet stuff at last! But with an El Nino, Perth will probably have a wet winter, while Adelaide will be a little bit on the dry side. Things are already looking that way.... Cheers, Duncan Alice Springs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bagust" To: Sent: Friday, 10 May 2002 2:02 pm Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: was - Nathan from Golden Grove = snow > >What about Mt Lofty which is over 700 metres? Surely it must snow there each > >year? Is Crafers the highest town in the Adelaide hills? > >What's the highest town in the Flinders Ranges & how high would it be in > >Metres? > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > I'll weigh in there, with apologies in advance to Nathan. > > Mt Lofty is the highest spot in the southern Mt Lofty ranges at 720m. > Crafers is the highest town in the area at about 600m. This area will get > about one light snowfall per year - some years none, some years two. I've > seen snow up there on several occasions. Never lies for very long though. > > Mt Bryan is the highest spot in the Northern Mt Lofty ranges at 936m. There > is an extensive area over 600m in this area and a more continental climate > with heavy frosts. This is the area with the most frequent and heaviest > falls in SA, along with: > > The Southern Flinders ranges, with Mts Brown and Remarkable at 970m. Once > again a fall about once a year might be expected on these mountains. > > Further north, St Mary Peak in Wilpena Pound is 1171m, but it's further > north and more continental again, often out of the way of the coldest, > moistest air masses - but it still gets the odd fall of snow. I've even > seen video of snow falling on Mt Hack (1087m) in the Northern Flinders - > I'm not sure what the atmospheric setup was there - perhaps a cut off > easterly low rather that the classic southerly outbreak? > > www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2/WeatherWX.html > > for some historic shots...... > > Cheers > > Phil > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: US Storms (W and SW Texas) Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 14:46:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey All, Just watching the storms in the panhandle around Amarillo (AMA), and they have issued the following severe storm report: THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN AMARILLO HAS ISSUED A * SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR... SOUTHERN POTTER COUNTY IN THE TEXAS PANHANDLE NORTHERN RANDALL COUNTY IN THE TEXAS PANHANDLE * UNTIL 1215 AM CDT * AT 1123 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM 2 MILES SOUTHWEST OF BUSHLAND...OR ABOUT 16 MILES WEST OF AMARILLO...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 50 MPH. * SOME LOCATIONS AFFECTED BY THE STORM INCLUDE... AMARILLO AND BUSHLAND THIS STORM PRODUCED TENNIS BALL HAIL NORTH OF HEREFORD...AND HAS A HISTORY OF PRODUCING STRONG WINDS. Tennis Ball hail!!!!!!! That's really something. Considering that is at 11:45pm!!!!!!! The storms also seem to be moving around 60mph as well....amazing speed!!! PaulY -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 11:43 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: US Storms (W and SW Texas) Morning all, For those following the action in the US there are some very nice storms at the moment in W and SW Texas with the line of storms expected to develop further N over the next 2-3 hours. http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goes8conusir.html <--- sat pic - if you click on the area you want it has a great zoom in http://weather.cod.edu/wx/public/raob/mafskewt.GIF <--- Skew T from where that action is The current mesoscale discussion and severe storm warnings suggest hail to 3 inches (7.5cm) in the 3 large storms in SW Tx and they suggest hail to 2 inches in the storms currently developing in the Texas panhandle near Amarillo. 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Hi
Thats a great satellite angle. The cell between Lubbock and Childress looks tornadic on the doppler. 
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Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 1:42 PM
Subject: aus-wx: US Storms (W and SW Texas)

Morning all,
 
For those following the action in the US there are some very nice storms at the moment in W and SW Texas with the line of storms expected to develop further N over the next 2-3 hours.
 
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goes8conusir.html  <--- sat pic - if you click on the area you want it has a great zoom in http://weather.cod.edu/wx/public/raob/mafskewt.GIF   <--- Skew T from where that action is
The current mesoscale discussion and severe storm warnings suggest hail to 3 inches (7.5cm) in the 3 large storms in SW Tx and they suggest hail to 2 inches in the storms currently developing in the Texas panhandle near Amarillo.
 
Regards,
 
Andrew McDonald
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 16:31:23 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:10 AM 11/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Just saw ad for World Around Us on Prime/7, this week's show is Extreme >Weather. On at 7.30pm Bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, 7 have done it to us city-ites AGAIN!!! We don't have this doco in Melbourne tonight. :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 18:40:55 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com John wrote > Can I take it that this forecast is based purely upon your long range > methods relating to lunar movement, and takes no account whatsoever of > current Southern hemisphere surface level mean sea level analysis? I have to ask this. Can someone please explain how if you utilise sea level or sea surface temperature analysis for any forecasting, that you can allow the rule out of the moon as an empirical variable. Sea tides/levels/temps are affected by at least the following lunar factors: phase cycle, apsidal cycle(perigee/apogee), apsidal angle, declination angle, declination hemisphere, inclination, nodal or nutation cycle(18.613 years), tide cycle itself, variable diurnalism(daily tides of unequal magnitude), lunar angular momentum, crossing of ecliptic, crossing of equator, tide times and probably other cycles within cycles, without even mentioning secondary (arguably lunar) factors such as wind speed and force, high and low pressure zones, cycles of currents, landmovement etc. Not wishing to argue, just open up debate.. Ken Ring > > > Expect rain in Perth from 11th-13th, 17th-23rd, and after 26th..give or take > a day in each window. > Ken Ring > www.predictweather.com > the home of longrange forecasting > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cb's from Space Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 15:01:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2002 05:02:21.0438 (UTC) FILETIME=[083BC1E0:01C1F8A9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I have been informed that the pics are not working, upon investigation i found out its the fuction that automatically converts file names to lowercase, my server doesnt like things linked in uppercase and the actual file is lower case,  So i will have to Upload it all again...

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i have also zoomed in on the main attraction

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Hi all,
i was going through my Hard drive and came across amazing pics from Space,
I have created a gallery and uploaded to my website at www.canberra-wx.com
Look at the news and you'll see the link to them there. (it should be fully up by early morning)
 
My favorite would have to be this one though www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/space.jpg
enjoy
 

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From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cb's from Space Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 15:13:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2002 05:14:12.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[B047D170:01C1F8AA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Fortunately ive got around doing that..
Check back Via www.canberra-wx.com (look in the new section on the left for the link) and you'll be able to see them, i may resize and upload the bigger images later

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Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 3:35 AM
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i have also zoomed in on the main attraction

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Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 3:01 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Cb's from Space

Hi all,
i was going through my Hard drive and came across amazing pics from Space,
I have created a gallery and uploaded to my website at www.canberra-wx.com
Look at the news and you'll see the link to them there. (it should be fully up by early morning)
 
My favorite would have to be this one though www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/space.jpg
enjoy
 

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From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Ruler straight cloud band. Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 18:26:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2002 08:27:37.0987 (UTC) FILETIME=[B577FD30:01C1F8C5] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
I like the look of the remarkably straight line cloud band moving through SA this afternoon, this upper cloud band seems to be developing along a marked upper trough and surprisingly linear jet with no 'wobbles', the surface cold front is difficult to pin point via the infra red sat pic,although can be detected better on the visible. regards Clyve H.
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 18:16:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2002 08:18:17.0387 (UTC) FILETIME=[675337B0:01C1F8C4] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Mr Ring. Could you please let me know to what percentage the SUN has to do with the process of weather on Planet Earth in comparison to the percentage influence the Moon has????, I note that your own web site states that the MOON controls the weather of the Earth!. Regards Clyve Herbert...... ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Ring To: Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front > John wrote > > Can I take it that this forecast is based purely upon your long range > > methods relating to lunar movement, and takes no account whatsoever of > > current Southern hemisphere surface level mean sea level analysis? > I have to ask this. Can someone please explain how if you utilise sea level > or sea surface temperature analysis for > any forecasting, that you can allow the rule out of the moon as an empirical > variable. Sea tides/levels/temps are affected by at least the following > lunar factors: phase cycle, apsidal cycle(perigee/apogee), apsidal angle, > declination angle, declination hemisphere, inclination, nodal or nutation > cycle(18.613 years), tide cycle itself, variable diurnalism(daily tides of > unequal magnitude), lunar angular momentum, crossing of ecliptic, crossing > of equator, tide times and probably other cycles within cycles, without even > mentioning secondary (arguably lunar) factors such as wind speed and force, > high and low pressure zones, cycles of currents, landmovement etc. > Not wishing to argue, just open up debate.. > Ken Ring > > > > > > > Expect rain in Perth from 11th-13th, 17th-23rd, and after 26th..give or > take > > a day in each window. > > Ken Ring > > www.predictweather.com > > the home of longrange forecasting > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Carolyn" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 18:34:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Tony don't panic, it doesn't appear to be on tonight. I was sure it was tonight, but can't see it anywhere. I'm not impressed either, and my kids are equally unimpressed!!!!! Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Tony Langdon (VK3JED) Sent: Saturday, 11 May 2002 4:31 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night At 12:10 AM 11/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Just saw ad for World Around Us on Prime/7, this week's show is >Extreme >Weather. On at 7.30pm Bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, 7 have done it to us city-ites AGAIN!!! We don't have this doco in Melbourne tonight. :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Carolyn" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 18:38:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com RE: Last message....it is on Tomorrow night!!!!!! Sunday 12th. 7.30pm on Prime. Helps if you really read the TV guide!!!!!!!! Carolyn :( -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Tony Langdon (VK3JED) Sent: Saturday, 11 May 2002 4:31 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night At 12:10 AM 11/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Just saw ad for World Around Us on Prime/7, this week's show is >Extreme >Weather. On at 7.30pm Bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, 7 have done it to us city-ites AGAIN!!! We don't have this doco in Melbourne tonight. :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 18:44:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Carolyn, I think it's on tomorrow night (Sunday) at 7:30pm on Prime TV (Ch 7) -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 18:35 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night Tony don't panic, it doesn't appear to be on tonight. I was sure it was tonight, but can't see it anywhere. I'm not impressed either, and my kids are equally unimpressed!!!!! Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Tony Langdon (VK3JED) Sent: Saturday, 11 May 2002 4:31 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night At 12:10 AM 11/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Just saw ad for World Around Us on Prime/7, this week's show is >Extreme >Weather. On at 7.30pm Bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, 7 have done it to us city-ites AGAIN!!! We don't have this doco in Melbourne tonight. :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 18:51:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2002 08:52:34.0576 (UTC) FILETIME=[31815900:01C1F8C9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It will be on sunday... http://www.sofcom.com.au/tv/ <--Great TV guide site. Cheers --------------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------- This Email is virus free. Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. Virus definition file 09-05-2002. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn" To: Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 6:34 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night > Tony don't panic, it doesn't appear to be on tonight. I was sure it was > tonight, but can't see it anywhere. > > I'm not impressed either, and my kids are equally unimpressed!!!!! > > Carolyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Tony Langdon > (VK3JED) > Sent: Saturday, 11 May 2002 4:31 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night > > > At 12:10 AM 11/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >Just saw ad for World Around Us on Prime/7, this week's show is > >Extreme > >Weather. On at 7.30pm > > Bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, 7 have done it to us city-ites > > AGAIN!!! We don't have this doco in Melbourne tonight. :-( > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Matters" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:16:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, It is not on Sunday according to www.yourtv.com.au and the "Herald Sun":-((((( Cheers Peter(didjman) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn" To: Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 6:38 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night > RE: Last message....it is on Tomorrow night!!!!!! Sunday 12th. 7.30pm > on Prime. Helps if you really read the TV guide!!!!!!!! > > Carolyn :( > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Tony Langdon > (VK3JED) > Sent: Saturday, 11 May 2002 4:31 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night > > > At 12:10 AM 11/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >Just saw ad for World Around Us on Prime/7, this week's show is > >Extreme > >Weather. On at 7.30pm > > Bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, 7 have done it to us city-ites > > AGAIN!!! We don't have this doco in Melbourne tonight. :-( > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:34:41 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:38 PM 11/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >RE: Last message....it is on Tomorrow night!!!!!! Sunday 12th. 7.30pm >on Prime. Helps if you really read the TV guide!!!!!!!! > >Carolyn :( Still not on in Melbourne. Same story as last Sunday. :-( Seems to be regional and western OZ only. :( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:36:24 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:51 PM 11/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >It will be on sunday... >http://www.sofcom.com.au/tv/ <--Great TV guide site. Not in Melbourne. Will and Grace is on instead here. Hmm, methinks it's time to partake in TV DXing. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Carolyn" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:42:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well all I can say about this tv programming thing is to echo Tony....bugga bugga bugga bugga bugga!!!!! Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Tony Langdon (VK3JED) Sent: Saturday, 11 May 2002 7:35 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night At 06:38 PM 11/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >RE: Last message....it is on Tomorrow night!!!!!! Sunday 12th. 7.30pm >on Prime. Helps if you really read the TV guide!!!!!!!! > >Carolyn :( Still not on in Melbourne. Same story as last Sunday. :-( Seems to be regional and western OZ only. :( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:37:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2002 09:37:22.0616 (UTC) FILETIME=[73B3B380:01C1F8CF] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com it is in Canberra and regional Centers of NSW and VIC, and possibably anywhere you have "the wold around us" on sunday nights instead of "will and Grace" Cheers --------------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------- This Email is virus free. Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. Virus definition file 09-05-2002. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Matters" To: Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 7:16 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night > Hi all, > It is not on Sunday according to www.yourtv.com.au and the "Herald > Sun":-((((( > Cheers Peter(didjman) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 6:38 PM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night > > > > RE: Last message....it is on Tomorrow night!!!!!! Sunday 12th. 7.30pm > > on Prime. Helps if you really read the TV guide!!!!!!!! > > > > Carolyn :( > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Tony Langdon > > (VK3JED) > > Sent: Saturday, 11 May 2002 4:31 PM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night > > > > > > At 12:10 AM 11/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > > > >Just saw ad for World Around Us on Prime/7, this week's show is > > >Extreme > > >Weather. On at 7.30pm > > > > Bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, bugga, 7 have done it to us city-ites > > > > AGAIN!!! We don't have this doco in Melbourne tonight. :-( > > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:36:51 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Will & Grace r infecting Ch.7 here in Adelaide too on Sunday night :(( So how big an antenna does one need here to pick up Prime TV over there?!? lol :) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 7:07 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night > it is in Canberra and regional Centers of NSW and VIC, and possibably > anywhere you have "the wold around us" on sunday nights instead of "will > and Grace" > > Cheers +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 20:24:26 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:36 PM 11/05/2002 +0930, you wrote: >Will & Grace r infecting Ch.7 here in Adelaide too on Sunday night :(( > >So how big an antenna does one need here to pick up Prime TV over there?!? >lol Well, look to the nearest regional station. In Melbourne, it's actually not hard to pick up TV from Bendigo. In the "good old days", amateur TV antennas used to be designed for channel 35 (right in the middle of UHF TV, where the old TV repeater used to transmit). So anyone with that gear could point it towards Bendigo and get a perfect picture! :-) Now, the best choice is a high gain TV antenna (the amateur stuff has moved way down to the bottom of UHF TV). Unfortunately, I'm not sure I can convince the landlady to let me put up another TV antenna. :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Current weather observation on my site. Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 00:49:27 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Another strong cold front Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 01:17:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Ken, Sorry about misleading you - I meant the air pressure analysis, i.e., MSLP (mean sea level pressure). By looking at a chart of the entire Southern hemisphere, one can get some idea of systems which are developing and likely movement and influence for a week or so. Sea surface temp has some bearing on rainfall, at least for SEQ I have found that the surface temp of the adjacent off-shore body seems to have a correlation with how much moisture is in the air - and correspondingly, rainfall. John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Ken Ring Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 4:41 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another strong cold front John wrote > Can I take it that this forecast is based purely upon your long range > methods relating to lunar movement, and takes no account whatsoever of > current Southern hemisphere surface level mean sea level analysis? I have to ask this. Can someone please explain how if you utilise sea level or sea surface temperature analysis for any forecasting, that you can allow the rule out of the moon as an empirical variable. Sea tides/levels/temps are affected by at least the following lunar factors: phase cycle, apsidal cycle(perigee/apogee), apsidal angle, declination angle, declination hemisphere, inclination, nodal or nutation cycle(18.613 years), tide cycle itself, variable diurnalism(daily tides of unequal magnitude), lunar angular momentum, crossing of ecliptic, crossing of equator, tide times and probably other cycles within cycles, without even mentioning secondary (arguably lunar) factors such as wind speed and force, high and low pressure zones, cycles of currents, landmovement etc. Not wishing to argue, just open up debate.. Ken Ring > > > Expect rain in Perth from 11th-13th, 17th-23rd, and after 26th..give or take > a day in each window. > Ken Ring > www.predictweather.com > the home of longrange forecasting > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 08:00:36 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: was - Nathan from Golden Grove = snow Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Whaddaya reckon is the highest town in the Flinders Ranges? Melrose? Quorn? >Hawker? Not that is really matters - just curious. Good to see Adelaide is >getting some wet stuff at last! But with an El Nino, Perth will probably >have a wet winter, while Adelaide will be a little bit on the dry side. >Things are already looking that way.... >Cheers, >Duncan >Alice Springs Highest town in the Flinders? Blinman at 620m asl. It's about 50km NNE of Wilpena Pound. Been there several times - an old copper mining town. Very rustic. Bit north for snow at that altitude methinks - but I guess anything's possible..... Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 10:06:56 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Forecasting Using The Moon Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Ken, I've been recently reading your site with interest - I've always had an interest in astronomical factors that affect the weather (rather than just Earthly ones). But I have a few questions/comments about what you have said in some of your information displayed on your website. You have talked about barometric trends, and that the pressure can effectively remain the same while the weather changes. And rather, we should be looking at volume and temperature changes, rather than pressure. You seem to imply that we should almost ignore pressure change, is that the desired implication? The weather can change due to the pressure remaining the same for a variety of reasons! For instance, it might be 25C on a late April day…the pressure is 1023hPa with gusty SE'lies. The pressure might stay the same, but the high ridging into SE QLD might move eastwards a little and direct more E'ly winds. The showers that were originally moving parallel to the coast therefore have a near low level shear environment and now move towards the coast bringing showers during the afternoon. Another example…it's 32C on a November afternoon, the DP is at a sticky 20C. The pressure is remaining constant (keeping in mind it's very difficult for the pressure to remain constant due to the diurnal pressure fluctuations that are related to the diurnal heating) and the skies are clear. An upper level trough moves into the region from the west and then things during the afternoon explode. The upper atmosphere plays one of the biggest role in weather (more than the surface in many cases!) But it isn't related to the changes in gravitational pull from the moon - these are borne through the atmosphere, and sometimes through conservation of potential vorticity across mountain ranges. So this is the main reason why pressure is not always accurate - it doesn't take into account what the upper atmosphere is doing, because you can have a cold pool moving over the region. In fact, you can have a cold pool in the mid levels, and warm pool in the upper levels that can somewhat 'equalise' each other if you look at a geopotential height chart! You then continue with "There is much less atmosphere at the poles than at the equator, because the sun and moon are at the side of the earth and create a bulged atmosphere that is stretched higher at the equator. The difference is great, from 13 miles up in the midlatitudes to only 1-2 miles up at the poles. As such, that protection is absent and the cold of space comes almost to ground level, freezing everything in sight." The reason there is "less atmosphere" is because the air is colder, cold air is denser than warm air so it is more "compressed" so to speak. The figures of the height of the atmosphere are way off - the atmosphere is around 600-700km thick! I can only assume you are referring to the troposphere - even then, the poles are more than 1-2 miles thick! They're closer to 5-6km from memory. The poles are colder because they receive less energy from the Sun. The angle of which the Sun shines on them is much less than at the Equator. It's similar to shining a torch…if you shine a torch directly down on a table you will see it is quite bright. But then if you put the torch at an angle, then that light is distributed over a larger area across the table and therefore is not as bright. The same applies to the poles as to why they are so cold. Even if the troposphere was only 1-2 miles thick, then it still wouldn't be exposed to the extreme cold of space, because there's another 600km or so of atmosphere above it! Including the stratosphere and thermosphere, both of which are quite warm (much warmer than the poles at times!) In the same paragraph you mentioned "Take a look at any NZ or UK weather chart. The isobars are lowest up near the North Pole and down near the South Pole. That indicates less pressure there due to less volume." I'm not sure what you are referring to here, because the pressure at the poles is actually quite high most of the time? (Polar high pressure systems). In a broad sense, air rises at the Equator as it is hot, and sinks at the poles because it is cold. This sets up the basis for the global circulation - the Hadley, Ferrel and Polar cells. The Hadley cell sees air rising at the Equator and then sinking at around 30 degrees north and south as it eventually cools - this sets up the sub-tropical high pressure belt across the region (if you look at MSL charts you will notice how much highs frequent these latitudes). Next is the Polar cell…because air is constantly sinking, it moves away at the Poles. But eventually it will warm a little and rise again - so we see low pressure systems around the 60S/N areas - this air rises and then moves back to the Poles (in a very brief and general sense). The Ferrel cell is simply a 'sympathetic circulation' that occurs in between the Hadley and Polar cells. On your topic of global warming you included "Fact: Like CO and N2O, CO2 is heavier than air. It is therefore utterly impossible to rise to form a 'greenhouse cover.' It dissolves in seawater." I'm not sure of your reasoning here (behind CO2 being heavier than air so not rising), but I do know that CO2 is a gas that absorbs heat more readily. This is the key behind the greenhouse theory - that CO2 will absorb more heat than other gases in the atmosphere, thus causing a warming. I'm not a huge fan of the global warming theory myself though (simply because I don't think we have been on Earth long enough to observe all of the potential cyclical factors that can occur in the weather). You also mentioned that if CO2 alone heated planets up, Mars would be much warmer than it is - CO2 alone doesn't warm planets up at all, it's just it absorbs more heat. Mars is too far away from the Sun to be hotter…even if we put more CO2 on Mars it mightn't make much of a difference (Mars needs a proper atmosphere). Still on greenhouse gases "Fact: More CO2 is absorbed by young plants than by grown-up trees. Therefore if all we are worried about is CO2 absorption, it makes more sense to cut DOWN the rain forests and plant saplings or even leave it as grass, both of which would absorb far more CO2 than mature trees do. Yet it is hard to imagine greenie environmentalists advocating the cutting down of the rain forests." This isn't true though! Because trees can be seen as a temporary CO2 storage, if you chop down a tree it will release CO2, so chopping down a tree to plant a new tree would be pointless as you are releasing more CO2 in the process (although from the point of stormchasing and trees, trees being replaced with saplings would be good! But that is a digression :) Onto the atmosphere "If it wasn't distributed by the Moon daily, all of the atmosphere would end up on the sun's side because the sun would be the only body in space with any gravitational pull. There would be one giant cloud always on the sun's side. We would therefore never see the sun for the constant cloud. Moreover, trees, which need direct sun's rays, would not photosynthesize, therefore not produce oxygen which is so essential to life and our existence. So without the Moon there could be no life as we know it on Earth." I haven't heard this before, furthermore it doesn't make any sense (well, to me at least). The moon's gravitational pull is very weak - the reason why tides occur isn't because it is pulling all of the water that is facing it towards itself. Rather, it is just strong enough to pull a force on the water near the poles and make the central areas bulge a little. Otherwise, we'd see a big mass of water and tremendous tides! So the gravitational force is not strong enough to just pull all of the water (or atmosphere) to one side of the planet! The planet is constantly changing simply due to it rotating about its axis, so that disturbs the atmosphere itself. One of the main mechanisms that drives weather is the differential of heating across the Earth due to its spherical nature. This sets up regions of higher and lower pressure in the surface and upper levels from the temperature gradients. The difference in pressure results in winds, and then Coriolis makes things a little more interesting again by aiding in deflection. All of these continually mix the atmosphere - not the gravitational pull of the moon or Sun (although I will abstain from going so far as to say they no affect whatsoever). Still on global warming "This is because temperatures in most of Antarctica are well below the melting point of ice. Down at the South Pole, temperatures cool to at least -75deg in winter, so 2 or 3 deg won't even dent it." -75C is a) in winter, b) at the extreme side of the poles. What about in summer? And what about at the warmer regions of the poles where temperatures can exceed zero degrees? Even a short period above zero degrees can cause an ice shelf to weaken and fall into the ocean…once this happens it is free to drift where it pleases (well, it will go with the ocean current), but it can move into lower latitudes where the water is warmer and melt there. On the hydrological cycle, "A greater evaporation cycle means more rain will form and fall back on earth and, as rain is not selective, there be more to fall on the poles too, creating more ice and snow there." We would all be in trouble if rain was falling frequently at the poles! Most of the precipitation is frozen precipitation - also, rain is very selective, it will favour some areas and not others. It will certainly not increase uniformly across the Earth. I am always interested to hear new theories though, there are a plethora of forecasters out there who only use one or two factors to forecast the weather - while I guess it might be impossible, what I'd like to see is some one who integrates all of these factors into something (which is essentially what a computer model tries to do, but it doesn't seem to take into account astronomical influences). I think there is little doubt that things such as lunar and solar cycles really do influence the weather, but to go so far as to say they are the primary and sole influence is a bit extreme. But that's just my opinion, and I enjoy reading other people's thoughts!!! AC +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 11:15:41 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Hopeful Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 22:14 8/05/02 +0930, you wrote: over here its as dry as a dead dingoes >donger in a lime burners boot. "Thats a stange expression, Bruce" JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fw: Geomagnetic Storm Warning Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 10:37:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For your information Love Sha ----- Original Message ----- From: "SpaceWeather.com" To: "SpaceWeather.com" Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:48 AM Subject: Geomagnetic Storm Warning Space Weather News for May 11, 2002 http://www.spaceweather.com An unexpected interplanetary shock wave swept past Earth at 1000 UT on May 11th and triggered a moderate geomagnetic storm. High-latitude sky watchers -- i.e., those in northern Europe, Canada and across the northern tier of US states -- should be alert for auroras after local nightfall on Saturday. Although the shock wave was not a particularly strong one, it stimulated a geomagnetic storm because the interplanetary magnetic field near Earth is pointing south -- a condition that weakens our planet's magnetic defenses against solar wind disturbances. Visit spaceweather.com for updates. --- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 19/04/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Another cold one in Northern Sydney Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 11:23:52 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For the second time so far this season my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River recorded a 7 degree temperature overnight. Well 7.9 to be exact, but it is still in the 7 degree range!! It was cloudy when I went to bed & not around 13 degrees at 10:30pm so I didn't expect the temperature to get below 10 degrees. Damian +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 12:18:11 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: The moon and it's influence on the weather ? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I had a look at your site Ken and it certainly does put a different "spin" on things. It reminded me of something long ago, ie, our greatest triumph in science class at school on day. I think we were in second form at the time (now year 8 I think). I remember that when tides were explained by the teacher, we kids were told (in simple terms) that since the earth rotated each day, the water on the side near the moon was attracted to it, hence water on the sides relative to the moon at any instant (ie, 90 degrees of longitude east and west, or, if you like in terms of time - ie, rotation of the earth relative to the moon position - 6 hours (approx)) flow away from that area towards the moon, so it all banked up near the moon and produced a high tide, and where the water went from produced a low tide. Six hours later, the earth had moved 90 degrees under the moon, so the water raced from the previous high tide area to fill the low tide "hole" that was now under the moon, and so on. The idea was "the water chases the moon because it is attracted by it". He drew a circle for the earth and a small one for the moon, with a line between their centers, and divided the earth into 4 quarters and put a circular arrow to indicate earth rotation for the 24 hours with the 6 hour points at the 90 degree points, the whole bit. Now that sounds all plausible enough to a kid. But, we had one real smart kid in our class, and he put the teacher on the spot. He asked a question that effectively came down to this "if the water is attracted to the moon, why isn't the air, because it can move more easily, and faster, than water". We all thought this was a fair enough question. Furthermore, since the earth rotated west to east, and the relative motion of the moon was east to west, we figured that both the air and the water should always be trying to race east to west to catch the moon. With further discussion, we decided that water had a problem ie, the land was in the way, so it "banked up" when it hit the coasts, and that made tides bigger than they would be if there was no land in the way. Going one step further, we figured that the air didn't have the problem the water had, because the air could rise up over the land real easy (and Australia is flat anyway - the blue mountains aren't really mountains, they are just little hills) so we figured the winds should always be easterlies. On the day in question though, we had rain thunder and lightening and a howling cold westerly wind. I remember the teacher, when faced with this obvious flaw in the theory he had been helping us develop, (even the widows were rattling and rain pelting down on them), was apparently lost for words. Most of us, also faced with the obvious, then thought that the teacher was full of ^*&())**...... A few seconds later the period bell went. Saved by the bell, he exited the room at high speed !! It was the last period of the day, so we raced out and got on our busses to go home. The subject of tides was never raised again. Ken Ring wrote: > John wrote > > Can I take it that this forecast is based purely upon your long range > > methods relating to lunar movement, and takes no account whatsoever of > > current Southern hemisphere surface level mean sea level analysis? > I have to ask this. Can someone please explain how if you utilise sea level > or sea surface temperature analysis for > any forecasting, that you can allow the rule out of the moon as an empirical > variable. Sea tides/levels/temps are affected by at least the following > lunar factors: phase cycle, apsidal cycle(perigee/apogee), apsidal angle, > declination angle, declination hemisphere, inclination, nodal or nutation > cycle(18.613 years), tide cycle itself, variable diurnalism(daily tides of > unequal magnitude), lunar angular momentum, crossing of ecliptic, crossing > of equator, tide times and probably other cycles within cycles, without even > mentioning secondary (arguably lunar) factors such as wind speed and force, > high and low pressure zones, cycles of currents, landmovement etc. > Not wishing to argue, just open up debate.. > Ken Ring > > > > > > > Expect rain in Perth from 11th-13th, 17th-23rd, and after 26th..give or > take > > a day in each window. > > Ken Ring > > www.predictweather.com > > the home of longrange forecasting > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The moon and it's influence on the weather ? Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 15:41:17 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Peter All the weather actually goes from west to east as on isobaric charts. Weather moves east about 13deg per day, same rate as the moon. The Pacific Plate goes the same way, but slower, being land. The water currents would also go from west to east if all the land wasn't in the way. Yet the earth daily rotates FASTER to the east and so all three should actually move to the west if it was only gravity of the earth inducing their movements because they would lag just that much behind the earth's rotation. We know that's not the case. I love the school story. Funny how you never learn anything about the moon at school. I think this goes way back to the history of schools as being monastic institutions to deliver what was then secular religion, and the moon was symbolic of paganism. You could almost say the first schools were set up in part to lead people away from the moon. regards Ken www.predictweather.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Creswick" To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:18 PM Subject: aus-wx: The moon and it's influence on the weather ? > I had a look at your site Ken and it certainly does put a different "spin" on > things. It reminded me of something long ago, ie, our greatest triumph in > science class at school on day. > > I think we were in second form at the time (now year 8 I think). I remember > that when tides were explained by the teacher, we kids were told (in simple > terms) that since the earth rotated each day, the water on the side near the > moon was attracted to it, hence water on the sides relative to the moon at any > instant (ie, 90 degrees of longitude east and west, or, if you like in terms of > time - ie, rotation of the earth relative to the moon position - 6 hours > (approx)) flow away from that area towards the moon, so it all banked up near > the moon and produced a high tide, and where the water went from produced a low > tide. Six hours later, the earth had moved 90 degrees under the moon, so the > water raced from the previous high tide area to fill the low tide "hole" that > was now under the moon, and so on. The idea was "the water chases the moon > because it is attracted by it". He drew a circle for the earth and a small one > for the moon, with a line between their centers, and divided the earth into 4 > quarters and put a circular arrow to indicate earth rotation for the 24 hours > with the 6 hour points at the 90 degree points, the whole bit. Now that sounds > all plausible enough to a kid. > > But, we had one real smart kid in our class, and he put the teacher on the > spot. He asked a question that effectively came down to this "if the water is > attracted to the moon, why isn't the air, because it can move more easily, and > faster, than water". > > We all thought this was a fair enough question. Furthermore, since the earth > rotated west to east, and the relative motion of the moon was east to west, we > figured that both the air and the water should always be trying to race east to > west to catch the moon. With further discussion, we decided that water had a > problem ie, the land was in the way, so it "banked up" when it hit the coasts, > and that made tides bigger than they would be if there was no land in the way. > Going one step further, we figured that the air didn't have the problem the > water had, because the air could rise up over the land real easy (and Australia > is flat anyway - the blue mountains aren't really mountains, they are just > little hills) so we figured the winds should always be easterlies. > > On the day in question though, we had rain thunder and lightening and a howling > cold westerly wind. I remember the teacher, when faced with this obvious flaw > in the theory he had been helping us develop, (even the widows were rattling and > rain pelting down on them), was apparently lost for words. Most of us, also > faced with the obvious, then thought that the teacher was full of ^*&())**...... > > A few seconds later the period bell went. Saved by the bell, he exited the > room at high speed !! It was the last period of the day, so we raced out and > got on our busses to go home. The subject of tides was never raised again. > > > > Ken Ring wrote: > > > John wrote > > > Can I take it that this forecast is based purely upon your long range > > > methods relating to lunar movement, and takes no account whatsoever of > > > current Southern hemisphere surface level mean sea level analysis? > > I have to ask this. Can someone please explain how if you utilise sea level > > or sea surface temperature analysis for > > any forecasting, that you can allow the rule out of the moon as an empirical > > variable. Sea tides/levels/temps are affected by at least the following > > lunar factors: phase cycle, apsidal cycle(perigee/apogee), apsidal angle, > > declination angle, declination hemisphere, inclination, nodal or nutation > > cycle(18.613 years), tide cycle itself, variable diurnalism(daily tides of > > unequal magnitude), lunar angular momentum, crossing of ecliptic, crossing > > of equator, tide times and probably other cycles within cycles, without even > > mentioning secondary (arguably lunar) factors such as wind speed and force, > > high and low pressure zones, cycles of currents, landmovement etc. > > Not wishing to argue, just open up debate.. > > Ken Ring > > > > > > > > > > > Expect rain in Perth from 11th-13th, 17th-23rd, and after 26th..give or > > take > > > a day in each window. > > > Ken Ring > > > www.predictweather.com > > > the home of longrange forecasting > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Tornado on the North Shore?? Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 14:03:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Did anyone catch the news article in yesterdays Weekend Edition of the Sydney Morning Herald Headlined 'Lifes Memories all on the back of a postcard'? The article is about an exhibiton at the Don Bank Museum showing old postcards & one of the postcards is about a tornado that swept through Crows Nest & Naremburn in 1906 with the photo / postcard showing a little boy & an older man sitting amid debris of what was once their home. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another cold one in Northern Sydney Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 14:11:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2002 04:11:50.0801 (UTC) FILETIME=[243F0010:01C1F96B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here in Canberra it got to -0.8 :::))) Not the coldest so far this Autumn, that happened last week when it got down to -0.9, lol Cheers --------------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------- This Email is virus free. Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. Virus definition file 09-05-2002. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 11:23 AM Subject: aus-wx: Another cold one in Northern Sydney > For the second time so far this season my place between Chatswood West & > North Ryde on the Lane Cove River recorded a 7 degree temperature overnight. > Well 7.9 to be exact, but it is still in the 7 degree range!! It was cloudy > when I went to bed & not around 13 degrees at 10:30pm so I didn't expect the > temperature to get below 10 degrees. > > > Damian > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 21:23:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Bush Subject: Re: aus-wx: Prime/7 Saturday night To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Not to worry.....im sure it will be shown on the City networks a little down the track ! I can't see them just showing it on regional tv only. :) JJ www.karrathaweather.org --- "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" wrote: > At 07:36 PM 11/05/2002 +0930, you wrote: > > >Will & Grace r infecting Ch.7 here in Adelaide too > on Sunday night :(( > > > >So how big an antenna does one need here to pick up > Prime TV over there?!? > >lol > > Well, look to the nearest regional station. In > Melbourne, it's actually > not hard to pick up TV from Bendigo. In the "good > old days", amateur TV > antennas used to be designed for channel 35 (right > in the middle of UHF TV, > where the old TV repeater used to transmit). So > anyone with that gear > could point it towards Bendigo and get a perfect > picture! :-) Now, the > best choice is a high gain TV antenna (the amateur > stuff has moved way down > to the bottom of UHF TV). > > Unfortunately, I'm not sure I can convince the > landlady to let me put up > another TV antenna. :-( > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Nice snow pics Tim Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 14:29:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That was quiet alot of snow in Lobethal. How high is Lobethal? Crafers, Mt Lofty, Brown, Bryan & Remarkable must have received heaps more snow even that Lobethal during that cold burst do you think? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 13:55:32 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have read with interest the information from both sides regarding the Moon and it's effects (or possible effects) on our weather etc. I am quite surprised at some of the arrogance (for want of a better word) shown by some of the members of this list regarding Ken's predicitions. While I also struggle to completely understand the principle eluciated off due to I nevertheless have not written them off due to my ignorance. To me it seems the wetaher community still has a lot to learn about our atmosphere, and to go ridiculing another art of forecasting, smacks alot of atmospheric arrogance! I enjoyed the tide -v- atmosphere effects by the moon scenario, and it certainly struck the possibility in me that MAYBE there is some truth in Ken's theories.....afterall our ancestors used the stars for many things, INCLUDING predicting the weather. I would hardly call it fair to call him a charlotan due to ignorance.... Rgds, Paul ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 1:33 PM Subject: aus-wx: Tornado on the North Shore?? > Did anyone catch the news article in yesterdays Weekend Edition of the > Sydney Morning Herald Headlined 'Lifes Memories all on the back of a > postcard'? > The article is about an exhibiton at the Don Bank Museum showing old > postcards & one of the postcards is about a tornado that swept through Crows > Nest & Naremburn in 1906 with the photo / postcard showing a little boy & an > older man sitting amid debris of what was once their home. > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 14:49:43 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another cold one in Northern Sydney From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20011031 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Another cold one in Northern Sydney Indeed it was, at 0630 AEST a minimum of 7.8c was recorded here, it was certainly enough to bust out the winter woolies.

And for a dramatic opposite, 27.5c recorded at 1315 AEST.
The winter/dry season is certainly creeping upon us, in the not too distant future, so will the morning frosts and ice covered windscreens..

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From: "Damian" <damoreds at optusnet.com.au>
Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 11:23:52 +1000
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: aus-wx: Another cold one in Northern Sydney


For the second time so far this season my place between Chatswood West &
North Ryde on the Lane Cove River recorded a 7 degree temperature overnight.
Well 7.9 to be exact, but it is still in the 7 degree range!! It was cloudy
when I went to bed & not around 13 degrees at 10:30pm so I didn't expect the
temperature to get below 10 degrees.


Damian
From: "Andrew" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 15:28:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2002 05:30:47.0874 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BC2FA20:01C1F976] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anthony.....1 (fact) Ken......0 (interesting) PM......0 (stirer) Anthony - I like it. Very well thought out and logical. Interesting ideas Ken. Maybe placing a bit too much emphasis on one factor though. Think of it like a footy team squandering at the bottom of the ladder (...Carlton). The reason for that is not because Kouta did his knee last year but its a combination of many many many factors. As for Paul's comments....you seem to like sticking up for the underdog - i haven't decided if I think that's a good thing or a bad thing yet. Oh - BTW - Any pics on the net yet of these NT storms? -Macca- ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Mossman To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:25 PM Subject: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon > I have read with interest the information from both sides regarding the Moon > and it's effects (or possible effects) on our weather etc. > > I am quite surprised at some of the arrogance (for want of a better word) > shown by some of the members of this list regarding Ken's predicitions. > > While I also struggle to completely understand the principle eluciated off > due to I nevertheless have not written them off due to my ignorance. > > To me it seems the wetaher community still has a lot to learn about our > atmosphere, and to go ridiculing another art of forecasting, smacks alot of > atmospheric arrogance! > > I enjoyed the tide -v- atmosphere effects by the moon scenario, and it > certainly struck the possibility in me that MAYBE there is some truth in > Ken's theories.....afterall our ancestors used the stars for many things, > INCLUDING predicting the weather. > > I would hardly call it fair to call him a charlotan due to ignorance.... > > Rgds, Paul > > ----- > From: "Damian" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 1:33 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Tornado on the North Shore?? > > > > Did anyone catch the news article in yesterdays Weekend Edition of the > > Sydney Morning Herald Headlined 'Lifes Memories all on the back of a > > postcard'? > > The article is about an exhibiton at the Don Bank Museum showing old > > postcards & one of the postcards is about a tornado that swept through > Crows > > Nest & Naremburn in 1906 with the photo / postcard showing a little boy & > an > > older man sitting amid debris of what was once their home. > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 15:45:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm gunna join in here. I also leave myself wide open as I, and I think no-one will ever get mother natures "moods" right. I have here a reproduced copy of Herschel's weather predictions etc that work "for ever". It will come as an attachment if I am allowed to send it to the list which is a no-no. Permission from Jacob and I will send it. It is a Word document re-typed from a Coles Family Almanac from 1911. Permission from the "boss" and I'll attach it. Even to the point where the forecast is given for the whole of 1911. My eyes are always wide open :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mossman" To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:25 PM Subject: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon > I have read with interest the information from both sides regarding the Moon > and it's effects (or possible effects) on our weather etc. > > I am quite surprised at some of the arrogance (for want of a better word) > shown by some of the members of this list regarding Ken's predicitions. > > While I also struggle to completely understand the principle eluciated off > due to I nevertheless have not written them off due to my ignorance. > > To me it seems the wetaher community still has a lot to learn about our > atmosphere, and to go ridiculing another art of forecasting, smacks alot of > atmospheric arrogance! > > I enjoyed the tide -v- atmosphere effects by the moon scenario, and it > certainly struck the possibility in me that MAYBE there is some truth in > Ken's theories.....afterall our ancestors used the stars for many things, > INCLUDING predicting the weather. > > I would hardly call it fair to call him a charlotan due to ignorance.... > > Rgds, Paul > > ----- > From: "Damian" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 1:33 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Tornado on the North Shore?? > > > > Did anyone catch the news article in yesterdays Weekend Edition of the > > Sydney Morning Herald Headlined 'Lifes Memories all on the back of a > > postcard'? > > The article is about an exhibiton at the Don Bank Museum showing old > > postcards & one of the postcards is about a tornado that swept through > Crows > > Nest & Naremburn in 1906 with the photo / postcard showing a little boy & > an > > older man sitting amid debris of what was once their home. > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Tim Eckert To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [203.220.183.240] Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 18:07:56 +1000 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nice snow pics Tim Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Damian, from memory the snow cover was spread pretty much evenly across the Mt Lofty and Flinders Ranges that morning. No doubt higher peaks would've recieved a bit more though. Not sure how high Lobethal actually is. Phil might know? Tim. Original message from: "Damian" > >That was quiet alot of snow in Lobethal. How high is Lobethal? >Crafers, Mt Lofty, Brown, Bryan & Remarkable must have received heaps more >snow even that Lobethal during that cold burst do you think? > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - >. > __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 18:15:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2002 08:15:36.0410 (UTC) FILETIME=[31C9D3A0:01C1F98D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Macca A good summation. Just one question though to all - while the moon has effects on tides etc.. that are very obvious, just how can it have an effect on local weather conditions? Surely it would be a more-or-less uniform global effect similar to the tide and therefore have no real influence. Eg- there is old north American folklore that suggests a crescent moon that lies on its back indicates lots of rain ahead (ie - rain water is caught) and a crescent moon that lies face down means dry weather ahead (ie no water is caught). However if this bit of folklore were true that would mean a uniform wet and dry influence over the entire globe. We know that often when one region floods, another is in drought. This is why I struggle with the idea that the moon has any significant influence on local weather or global weather - basically, it simply doesn't produce heat. Polite and inquisitive regards Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew" To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon > Anthony.....1 (fact) > > Ken......0 (interesting) > > PM......0 (stirer) > > Anthony - I like it. Very well thought out and logical. > > Interesting ideas Ken. Maybe placing a bit too much emphasis on one factor > though. Think of it like a footy team squandering at the bottom of the > ladder (...Carlton). The reason for that is not because Kouta did his knee > last year but its a combination of many many many factors. > > As for Paul's comments....you seem to like sticking up for the underdog - i > haven't decided if I think that's a good thing or a bad thing yet. Oh - > BTW - Any pics on the net yet of these NT storms? > > -Macca- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Mossman > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:25 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon > > > > I have read with interest the information from both sides regarding the > Moon > > and it's effects (or possible effects) on our weather etc. > > > > I am quite surprised at some of the arrogance (for want of a better word) > > shown by some of the members of this list regarding Ken's predicitions. > > > > While I also struggle to completely understand the principle eluciated > off > > due to I nevertheless have not written them off due to my ignorance. > > > > To me it seems the wetaher community still has a lot to learn about our > > atmosphere, and to go ridiculing another art of forecasting, smacks alot > of > > atmospheric arrogance! > > > > I enjoyed the tide -v- atmosphere effects by the moon scenario, and it > > certainly struck the possibility in me that MAYBE there is some truth in > > Ken's theories.....afterall our ancestors used the stars for many things, > > INCLUDING predicting the weather. > > > > I would hardly call it fair to call him a charlotan due to ignorance.... > > > > Rgds, Paul > > > > ----- > > From: "Damian" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 1:33 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Tornado on the North Shore?? > > > > > > > Did anyone catch the news article in yesterdays Weekend Edition of the > > > Sydney Morning Herald Headlined 'Lifes Memories all on the back of a > > > postcard'? > > > The article is about an exhibiton at the Don Bank Museum showing old > > > postcards & one of the postcards is about a tornado that swept through > > Crows > > > Nest & Naremburn in 1906 with the photo / postcard showing a little boy > & > > an > > > older man sitting amid debris of what was once their home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 18:53:00 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Although this debate has taken some twists and turns of late, I'm interested in the question that was asked earlier by Clyve Herbert that seems to be the only one that hasn't had a response yet:- Could you please let me know to what percentage the SUN has to do with the process of weather on Planet Earth in comparison to the percentage influence the Moon has????, I note that your own web site states that the MOON controls the weather of the Earth!. Regards Clyve Herbert...... Ken? What percentage (not an explanation here please, just a number will do fine) do you assign each of them? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Clarke" To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 6:15 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon > Thanks Macca > > A good summation. > > Just one question though to all - while the moon has effects on tides etc.. > that are very obvious, just how can it have an effect on local weather > conditions? Surely it would be a more-or-less uniform global effect similar > to the tide and therefore have no real influence. > > Eg- there is old north American folklore that suggests a crescent moon that > lies on its back indicates lots of rain ahead (ie - rain water is caught) > and a crescent moon that lies face down means dry weather ahead (ie no > water is caught). However if this bit of folklore were true that would mean > a uniform wet and dry influence over the entire globe. We know that often > when one region floods, another is in drought. > > This is why I struggle with the idea that the moon has any significant > influence on local weather or global weather - basically, it simply doesn't > produce heat. > > > Polite and inquisitive regards > Simon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 3:28 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon > > > > Anthony.....1 (fact) > > > > Ken......0 (interesting) > > > > PM......0 (stirer) > > > > Anthony - I like it. Very well thought out and logical. > > > > Interesting ideas Ken. Maybe placing a bit too much emphasis on one > factor > > though. Think of it like a footy team squandering at the bottom of the > > ladder (...Carlton). The reason for that is not because Kouta did his > knee > > last year but its a combination of many many many factors. > > > > As for Paul's comments....you seem to like sticking up for the underdog - > i > > haven't decided if I think that's a good thing or a bad thing yet. Oh - > > BTW - Any pics on the net yet of these NT storms? > > > > -Macca- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Paul Mossman > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:25 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon > > > > > > > I have read with interest the information from both sides regarding the > > Moon > > > and it's effects (or possible effects) on our weather etc. > > > > > > I am quite surprised at some of the arrogance (for want of a better > word) > > > shown by some of the members of this list regarding Ken's predicitions. > > > > > > While I also struggle to completely understand the principle eluciated > > off > > > due to I nevertheless have not written them off due to my ignorance. > > > > > > To me it seems the wetaher community still has a lot to learn about our > > > atmosphere, and to go ridiculing another art of forecasting, smacks alot > > of > > > atmospheric arrogance! > > > > > > I enjoyed the tide -v- atmosphere effects by the moon scenario, and it > > > certainly struck the possibility in me that MAYBE there is some truth in > > > Ken's theories.....afterall our ancestors used the stars for many > things, > > > INCLUDING predicting the weather. > > > > > > I would hardly call it fair to call him a charlotan due to ignorance.... > > > > > > Rgds, Paul > > > > > > ----- > > > From: "Damian" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 1:33 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: Tornado on the North Shore?? > > > > > > > > > > Did anyone catch the news article in yesterdays Weekend Edition of the > > > > Sydney Morning Herald Headlined 'Lifes Memories all on the back of a > > > > postcard'? > > > > The article is about an exhibiton at the Don Bank Museum showing old > > > > postcards & one of the postcards is about a tornado that swept through > > > Crows > > > > Nest & Naremburn in 1906 with the photo / postcard showing a little > boy > > & > > > an > > > > older man sitting amid debris of what was once their home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- --- > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at countryenergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: Bathurst this morning To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 19:10:46 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 12/05/2002 07:10:46 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI All. Well its official, we finally got below zero last night with a -0.2 at AWS in Bathurst.. real nice frost as well. Seems like some cold weather heading around next weekend from Lindsays reports and models. Will know more around Thursday! Dave Frosty & Cold Bathurst ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Greg Curtis" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: Current Brisbane Observations - new site Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 20:02:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone. I see that the BOM have added a new site on the current Brisbane Observations page. It is at http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDQ65113.shtml The new site is listed as: 'Reciprocal Leading Beacon'. Anybody know where in Moreton Bay it is? Thanks Greg Curtis +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 21:28:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2002 11:29:40.0732 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E585BC0:01C1F9A8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Bussie. If you have a prediction from Herschel for 1911, I have the entire 1911 weather for all of Australia thanks to a famous meteorologist of the time a Mr Hunt, so we can make some comparisons regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bussy To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 3:45 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon > I'm gunna join in here. I also leave myself wide open as I, and I think > no-one will ever get mother natures "moods" right. I have here a reproduced > copy of Herschel's weather predictions etc that work "for ever". It will > come as an attachment if I am allowed to send it to the list which is a > no-no. Permission from Jacob and I will send it. It is a Word document > re-typed from a Coles Family Almanac from 1911. Permission from the "boss" > and I'll attach it. > Even to the point where the forecast is given for the whole of 1911. My eyes > are always wide open :-) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Mossman" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:25 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon > > > > I have read with interest the information from both sides regarding the > Moon > > and it's effects (or possible effects) on our weather etc. > > > > I am quite surprised at some of the arrogance (for want of a better word) > > shown by some of the members of this list regarding Ken's predicitions. > > > > While I also struggle to completely understand the principle eluciated > off > > due to I nevertheless have not written them off due to my ignorance. > > > > To me it seems the wetaher community still has a lot to learn about our > > atmosphere, and to go ridiculing another art of forecasting, smacks alot > of > > atmospheric arrogance! > > > > I enjoyed the tide -v- atmosphere effects by the moon scenario, and it > > certainly struck the possibility in me that MAYBE there is some truth in > > Ken's theories.....afterall our ancestors used the stars for many things, > > INCLUDING predicting the weather. > > > > I would hardly call it fair to call him a charlotan due to ignorance.... > > > > Rgds, Paul > > > > ----- > > From: "Damian" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 1:33 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Tornado on the North Shore?? > > > > > > > Did anyone catch the news article in yesterdays Weekend Edition of the > > > Sydney Morning Herald Headlined 'Lifes Memories all on the back of a > > > postcard'? > > > The article is about an exhibiton at the Don Bank Museum showing old > > > postcards & one of the postcards is about a tornado that swept through > > Crows > > > Nest & Naremburn in 1906 with the photo / postcard showing a little boy > & > > an > > > older man sitting amid debris of what was once their home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: TC Errol.and brother. Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 21:40:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2002 11:41:28.0872 (UTC) FILETIME=[F46DF280:01C1F9A9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi .
TC Errol appears to have intensified over the past six hours or so with better convection although outflow favours the southwest flank, also Errol's twin brother (or sister if you want ) in the northern hemisphere is still apparent. regards Clyve H.
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: Fw: aus-wx: Hopeful Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 21:25:44 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com it's richard, and after today not quite so dry, 4.0mm. could be better but could be worse. as for the expression, i spose i tend to speak like a scrubber at times, sorry. regards RM ----- Original Message ----- From: John Gaul To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:45 AM Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Hopeful > At 22:14 8/05/02 +0930, you wrote: > over here its as dry as a dead dingoes > >donger in a lime burners boot. > > "Thats a stange expression, Bruce" > > > JohnGaul > NZTS > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Shane Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Current Brisbane Observations - new site Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 21:46:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Greg. I think that the location of that beacon is on or near Gabo Island. The original beacon was built in the early 1900's. Regards Shane G/C Queensland -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Greg Curtis Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:03 PM To: Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com Subject: aus-wx: Current Brisbane Observations - new site Hi everyone. I see that the BOM have added a new site on the current Brisbane Observations page. It is at http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDQ65113.shtml The new site is listed as: 'Reciprocal Leading Beacon'. Anybody know where in Moreton Bay it is? Thanks Greg Curtis +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:06:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I get the feeling that John may have just given his age group away....in the mid-seventies (yes, some of us really are that old) there was a rather sad habit going around of calling everyone "Bruce" - you would introduce everyone at the parties you went to like this: "Bruce, this is Bruce, Bruce, I'd like you to meet Bruce, and Bruce this is Bruce. Btw, hi, my name's Bruce" etc ad nauseum.......... If memory serves me correctly, it had something to do with a D grade (it could have been lower though) movie about or starring Bruce (or was it Bwuce) Lee. Can someone who is also in their 40's going on 19 please fill in the gaps here? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- > it's richard, and after today not quite so dry, 4.0mm. > could be better but could be worse. as for the expression, i spose i tend to > speak like a scrubber at times, sorry. > > regards RM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Gaul > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:45 AM > Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Hopeful > > > > At 22:14 8/05/02 +0930, you wrote: > > over here its as dry as a dead dingoes > > >donger in a lime burners boot. > > > > "Thats a stange expression, Bruce" > > > > > > JohnGaul > > NZTS > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 00:48:00 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Eg- there is old north American folklore that suggests a crescent moon that > lies on its back indicates lots of rain ahead (ie - rain water is caught) > and a crescent moon that lies face down means dry weather ahead (ie no > water is caught). The crescent moon on its back is what you get just prior to or just after a New moon and yes, the New moon generally brings rain so it is a general indicator. But which way up the crescent is, i.e. holding water or not keeps changing because the white bit always points to the sun. > However if this bit of folklore were true that would mean a uniform wet and dry influence over the entire globe. It IS true all over the globe. Statistically the New moon more often than not serves some rain. But mainly at night, and where it is night in one place it isn't necessarily in another. > Just one question though to all - while the moon has effects on tides etc.. > that are very obvious, just how can it have an effect on local weather > conditions? Surely it would be a more-or-less uniform global effect similar > to the tide and therefore have no real influence. Tides differ everywhere, as to magnitude, time and speed. Same with winds and weather. Saying if the moon created weather then everywhere should have the same weather is as incorrect as suggesting everywhere should have the same tide. > This is why I struggle with the idea that the moon has any significant > influence on local weather or global weather - basically, it simply doesn't > produce heat. Incorrect, actually. In 1995 it was discovered by Balling, Shaffer, Cerveny of Arizona State University that in the course of a lunar cycle, global temperatures in the troposphere are warmest about 6-8 days before Full moon and coolest during New moon. They also found that the moon heats the poles and there is a strong poleward transfer of heat near Full moon but the transfer weakens near the New moon. Significant enough heat effect to alter weather. If anyone wants the refs I can supply them. The sun produces heat which causes evaporation and through heat rising can create convection and wind. But the sun can't make it rain. And the sun can't make the weather change overnight. Nor can the sun directionate the wind into high and low pressure zones. I believe that is done by the moon. Ken +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Duncan & Mandy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: was - Nathan from Golden Grove = snow Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:21:56 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ah yes - forgot about Blinman. Pretty place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bagust" To: Sent: Sunday, 12 May 2002 8:00 am Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: was - Nathan from Golden Grove = snow > >Whaddaya reckon is the highest town in the Flinders Ranges? Melrose? Quorn? > >Hawker? Not that is really matters - just curious. Good to see Adelaide is > >getting some wet stuff at last! But with an El Nino, Perth will probably > >have a wet winter, while Adelaide will be a little bit on the dry side. > >Things are already looking that way.... > >Cheers, > >Duncan > >Alice Springs > > > Highest town in the Flinders? Blinman at 620m asl. It's about 50km NNE of > Wilpena Pound. Been there several times - an old copper mining town. Very > rustic. Bit north for snow at that altitude methinks - but I guess > anything's possible..... > > Phil > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 23:38:57 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane. If my memory is still intact from a rather more heady era, it was from an episode of Monty Python's Flying Circus. Regards, Carl. >I get the feeling that John may have just given his age group away....in >the mid-seventies (yes, some of us really are that old) there was a >rather sad habit going around of calling everyone "Bruce" - you would >introduce everyone at the parties you went to like this: "Bruce, this is >Bruce, Bruce, I'd like you to meet Bruce, and Bruce this is Bruce. Btw, >hi, my name's Bruce" etc ad nauseum.......... > >If memory serves me correctly, it had something to do with a D grade (it >could have been lower though) movie about or starring Bruce (or was it >Bwuce) Lee. > >Can someone who is also in their 40's going on 19 please fill in the >gaps here? > > >Jane >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >Melbourne Storm Chasers >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >ASWA - Victoria >http://www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------- > > >> it's richard, and after today not quite so dry, 4.0mm. >> could be better but could be worse. as for the expression, i spose i >tend to >> speak like a scrubber at times, sorry. >> >> regards RM >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: John Gaul >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:45 AM >> Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Hopeful >> >> >> > At 22:14 8/05/02 +0930, you wrote: >> > over here its as dry as a dead dingoes >> > >donger in a lime burners boot. >> > >> > "Thats a stange expression, Bruce" >> > >> > >> > JohnGaul >> > NZTS >> > >> > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your >> > message. >> > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- >- >> > >> >> >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- >-- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm Weather-Ezine LR forecasting archives: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ezines/ezineindex.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 21:59:29 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Hopeful X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That's a real dinkum aussie expression, John. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: John Gaul To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 11:15:41 +1200 Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Hopeful > At 22:14 8/05/02 +0930, you wrote: > over here its as dry as a dead dingoes > >donger in a lime burners boot. > > "Thats a stange expression, Bruce" > > > JohnGaul > NZTS > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Debbie Parker" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 00:12:52 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Monty Python did it - or were they just taking off the original? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane ONeill To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 10:06 PM Subject: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic > I get the feeling that John may have just given his age group away....in > the mid-seventies (yes, some of us really are that old) there was a > rather sad habit going around of calling everyone "Bruce" - you would > introduce everyone at the parties you went to like this: "Bruce, this is > Bruce, Bruce, I'd like you to meet Bruce, and Bruce this is Bruce. Btw, > hi, my name's Bruce" etc ad nauseum.......... > > If memory serves me correctly, it had something to do with a D grade (it > could have been lower though) movie about or starring Bruce (or was it > Bwuce) Lee. > > Can someone who is also in their 40's going on 19 please fill in the > gaps here? > > > Jane > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > it's richard, and after today not quite so dry, 4.0mm. > > could be better but could be worse. as for the expression, i spose i > tend to > > speak like a scrubber at times, sorry. > > > > regards RM > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John Gaul > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:45 AM > > Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Hopeful > > > > > > > At 22:14 8/05/02 +0930, you wrote: > > > over here its as dry as a dead dingoes > > > >donger in a lime burners boot. > > > > > > "Thats a stange expression, Bruce" > > > > > > > > > JohnGaul > > > NZTS > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 00:54:47 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon X-X-Sender: robert at tornado.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Sun, 12 May 2002, Paul Mossman wrote: > ....afterall our ancestors used the stars for many things, > INCLUDING predicting the weather. That's because their supercomputers weren't fast enough to do all the necessary calculations :-) I believe our ancestors also used to sacrifice virgins to appease the weather gods...perhaps something else we could bring back into vogue, hey Paul?.....although if it does come back, the weather gods wouldn't be too happy in my neck of the woods ;-) Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 23:12:30 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler Subject: Re: aus-wx: The moon and it's influence on the weather ? X-X-Sender: robert at tornado.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Sun, 12 May 2002, Peter Creswick wrote: > ....Six hours later, the earth had moved 90 degrees under the moon, so the > water raced from the previous high tide area to fill the low tide "hole" that > was now under the moon, and so on. The idea was "the water chases the moon > because it is attracted by it". I suppose this is the common misconception, that there is an actual 'flow' of water/air from high to low tide. If this actually occurred with tides, then you'd be getting current speeds in the ocean screaming at 464 metres per second!! Good luck to all the ships out there.... {value obtained by doing pi*(diameter of earth)/4 to get circumference of one quarter the earth, and then dividing by (6hrs*60mins*60secs)} This is gonna be hard to explain, but all the gravity does is to create bulges in the water/air by pulling it away from the earth on the near side, and pulling the earth away from the water/air on the far side to create that high tide on the opposite side. As the earth rotates, different sections of it will be placed 'under' the moon. So the section that was previously under the moon, once rotated away, will sink back down to its normal height, while a new section will be 'under' the moon, and so will rise. The only thing that 'chases' the moon is the outward bulge, NOT the actual water/air within the bulge. So you can think of this as a wave with the peaks at the high tide positions, and troughs at the low tide positions. And as you'll know from when you're out on the water, as a wave passes, all you end up doing is bobbing up and down. That is, you don't get carried along with it (unless you're surfing), and nor does the water. Otherwise we'd end up with every marine creature being washed up on the shores. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:18:27 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Current Brisbane Observations - new site X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Did somebody tow Gabo Island up to Queensland? Last time I looked it was off the East coast near the Vic-NSW border. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Shane Williams" To: Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 21:46:48 +1000 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Current Brisbane Observations - new site > > Hi Greg. > > > I think that the location of that beacon is on or near Gabo > Island. The original beacon was built in the early 1900's. > > > Regards Shane > G/C Queensland > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Greg Curtis > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:03 PM > To: Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com > Subject: aus-wx: Current Brisbane Observations - new site > > Hi everyone. > > I see that the BOM have added a new site on the current Brisbane > Observations page. It is at > > http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDQ65113.shtml > > The new site is listed as: 'Reciprocal Leading Beacon'. Anybody know > where > in Moreton Bay it is? > > Thanks > > Greg Curtis > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 01:06:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Tend to agree with that - but as an addendum, not that long ago, in a memorable interview, Douglas Adams of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy fame (now sadly departed), was able prove that all Australian men were in fact, called Bruce. John -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Carl Smith Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 11:39 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic Hi Jane. If my memory is still intact from a rather more heady era, it was from an episode of Monty Python's Flying Circus. Regards, Carl. >I get the feeling that John may have just given his age group away....in >the mid-seventies (yes, some of us really are that old) there was a >rather sad habit going around of calling everyone "Bruce" - you would >introduce everyone at the parties you went to like this: "Bruce, this is >Bruce, Bruce, I'd like you to meet Bruce, and Bruce this is Bruce. Btw, >hi, my name's Bruce" etc ad nauseum.......... > >If memory serves me correctly, it had something to do with a D grade (it >could have been lower though) movie about or starring Bruce (or was it >Bwuce) Lee. > >Can someone who is also in their 40's going on 19 please fill in the >gaps here? > > >Jane >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >Melbourne Storm Chasers >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >ASWA - Victoria >http://www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------- > > >> it's richard, and after today not quite so dry, 4.0mm. >> could be better but could be worse. as for the expression, i spose i >tend to >> speak like a scrubber at times, sorry. >> >> regards RM >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: John Gaul >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:45 AM >> Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Hopeful >> >> >> > At 22:14 8/05/02 +0930, you wrote: >> > over here its as dry as a dead dingoes >> > >donger in a lime burners boot. >> > >> > "Thats a stange expression, Bruce" >> > >> > >> > JohnGaul >> > NZTS >> > >> > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your >> > message. >> > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- >- >> > >> >> >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- >-- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm Weather-Ezine LR forecasting archives: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ezines/ezineindex.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The moon and it's influence on the weather ? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 03:49:07 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > all the gravity does is to create > bulges in the water/air by pulling it away from the earth on the near > side, and pulling the earth away from the water/air on the far side to > create that high tide on the opposite side. You are correct in that there is indeed an air-bulge that follows the moon. And attributing it to the moon's gravity is what I agree with. That's the air-tide and that's what causes weather to change within a day. BUT ...the high tide of the sea on the far side isn't because of any pulling of the ocean floor, because there is nothing to stop the moon acting on all the sea bottom at once, not just pulling the bit from the far side. My understanding is that the other high tide can only be explained astrologically, and that was what Sir Isaac Newton(an astrologer)was really onto in his laws governing gravitation. Many think he wasn't properly understood, then or since. His gravitational laws were based on astrological principles, which depart somewhat from conventional physics, and as a lunar weather-forecaster himself he held the moon responsible for every weather event. Ken +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 09:24:21 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The Herschel system will be right about 60% of the time. > Hi Bussie. > If you have a prediction from Herschel for 1911, I have the entire 1911 > weather for all of Australia thanks to a famous meteorologist of the time a > Mr Hunt, so we can make some comparisons regards Clyve H. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bussy > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 3:45 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon > > > > I'm gunna join in here. I also leave myself wide open as I, and I think > > no-one will ever get mother natures "moods" right. I have here a > reproduced > > copy of Herschel's weather predictions etc that work "for ever". It will > > come as an attachment if I am allowed to send it to the list which is a > > no-no. Permission from Jacob and I will send it. It is a Word document > > re-typed from a Coles Family Almanac from 1911. Permission from the "boss" > > and I'll attach it. > > Even to the point where the forecast is given for the whole of 1911. My > eyes > > are always wide open :-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Mossman" > > To: +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 07:17:42 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: aus-wx: Fwd: US storm chase Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 13:38:40 -0700 (PDT) >From: Jimmy Deguara >Subject: Re: US trip >To: Michael Bath > >Hi Michael, > >Due to limited time and opportunities on e-mail, >extend our message to others that we are on the ground >and chasing. We chased on Saturday our time Day1 (day >after getting off the plane) rented a car and ended >from Dallas to Southern Kansas (about 7 - 8 hour >trip). We observed a meso with a tornado warning on >it. No tornado but perhaps a funnel cloud or two. >We'll check the videos later. Today there is too much >cloud but there will be storms along the front. > >Please do tell others that we have not got time to >send e-mails to everyone so we responded to yours >quickly.. > >Cheers. > >Jimmy Deguara ================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Jones To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 09:43:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Incorrect, actually. In 1995 it was discovered by Balling, Shaffer, >Cerveny >of Arizona State University that in the course of a lunar cycle, global >temperatures in the troposphere are warmest about 6-8 days before Full >moon >and coolest during New moon. Ken, given that you have no doubt got these references, could you please tell us exactly how much warmer? - my bet is about 0.001C. While you are at it could you also provide an answer to Jane's email (ie % sun/moon). Regards, David PS list members I have been totally swamped by work... hence the lack of posts, but still enjoying the content! BTW for those who are hanging out for winter, take a look at the models scenarios for later this week in the SE. While it is still early days, these broadly suggest two significant frontal passages (around Thursday, and then Saturday), with both having temperatures cold enough for widespread alpine snow. If we see these predicted thickness values (540gpdm and less), also watch for very strong convective showers in SE Australian coastal areas, as the local sea surface temperatures are very warm for this time of year. It will be interesting to see how nature and humans react to a good cold snap, after such a very mild start to autumn - for example, many decidious trees in our area are still to loose their leaves. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: "David Jones \(by way of Carl Smith\)" Cc: Subject: Re: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:10:01 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com David My posts are scarcely reaching the aussie-wx list anymore. Something appears to be editing them out. I have posted a reply to Jane's letter three times. Unfortunately it makes me appear reluctant to answer. Not the case at all. I have cced this to aussie-wx and would be interested to know if it doesn't appear. To answer the question, the accepted figure is that the moon has 2.5X the gravitational pull of the sun. That means anything the sun does, the moon does two and a half times more so. This is weird because meteorologists still accept the notion of a solar tide but not a lunar one. As to the Balling figure, during a period of 5934 days(over 200 synodic cycles)between 1979 and 1995, the phase of the moon accounted for a global variation inm temperature of 0.02-0.03degC. Over 17 years of satellite data they found the poles showed a tem range of 0.55degC during a lunar month. This range of temps is 25 X greater than for global temps as a whole. Ken www.predictweather.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > >Incorrect, actually. In 1995 it was discovered by Balling, Shaffer, > >Cerveny > >of Arizona State University that in the course of a lunar cycle, global > >temperatures in the troposphere are warmest about 6-8 days before Full > >moon > >and coolest during New moon. > > Ken, > > given that you have no doubt got these references, could you please tell us > exactly how much warmer? - my bet is about 0.001C. > > While you are at it could you also provide an answer to Jane's email (ie % > sun/moon). > > Regards, > > David > > PS > > list members I have been totally swamped by work... hence the lack of posts, > but still enjoying the content! BTW for those who are hanging out for > winter, take a look at the models scenarios for later this week in the SE. > While it is still early days, these broadly suggest two significant frontal > passages (around Thursday, and then Saturday), with both having temperatures > cold enough for widespread alpine snow. If we see these predicted thickness > values (540gpdm and less), also watch for very strong convective showers in > SE Australian coastal areas, as the local sea surface temperatures are very > warm for this time of year. > > It will be interesting to see how nature and humans react to a good cold > snap, after such a very mild start to autumn - for example, many decidious > trees in our area are still to loose their leaves. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Cold in SEQ - was lunar-solar questions? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 11:21:00 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Well I know the Southern states have certainly had some unseasonally warm weather - but up here in SEQ it has been decidedly cool for about 2 weeks now with quite a wintery feel, thanks to almost stationary Highs sitting over NSW/Vic drawing cold dryish air up from somewhere near the bottom of NZ. Last Night's minimum at Mt. Crosby was just 9.7C (5C at Amberley with 3C ground temp), which is the first occurence of sub 10C this year, and it has arrived almost 2 weeks earlier than last year, and very notably without a significant cold outbreak over Southern states as it was last year. Also my midnight pool temp (20.5C) is about 1C lower than this time last year despite a recent spate of cloudless days. So, coupled with the vigorous nature of early season cold fronts over SW W.A., are we heading for a severe winter to counterbalance the heat of last summer? Or am I just seeing yet another manifestation of the general absence of atmospheric moisture which has characterised this part of the world since roundabout last November. John >snip list members I have been totally swamped by work... hence the lack of posts, but still enjoying the content! BTW for those who are hanging out for winter, take a look at the models scenarios for later this week in the SE. While it is still early days, these broadly suggest two significant frontal passages (around Thursday, and then Saturday), with both having temperatures cold enough for widespread alpine snow. If we see these predicted thickness values (540gpdm and less), also watch for very strong convective showers in SE Australian coastal areas, as the local sea surface temperatures are very warm for this time of year. It will be interesting to see how nature and humans react to a good cold snap, after such a very mild start to autumn - for example, many decidious trees in our area are still to loose their leaves. (David Jones) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 11:34:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ken and all, Specifically, what part do you think the sun actually plays? (keep in mind this question is not just about gravity) Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- David My posts are scarcely reaching the aussie-wx list anymore. Something appears to be editing them out. I have posted a reply to Jane's letter three times. Unfortunately it makes me appear reluctant to answer. Not the case at all. I have cced this to aussie-wx and would be interested to know if it doesn't appear. To answer the question, the accepted figure is that the moon has 2.5X the gravitational pull of the sun. That means anything the sun does, the moon does two and a half times more so. This is weird because meteorologists still accept the notion of a solar tide but not a lunar one. As to the Balling figure, during a period of 5934 days(over 200 synodic cycles)between 1979 and 1995, the phase of the moon accounted for a global variation inm temperature of 0.02-0.03degC. Over 17 years of satellite data they found the poles showed a tem range of 0.55degC during a lunar month. This range of temps is 25 X greater than for global temps as a whole. Ken www.predictweather.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > >Incorrect, actually. In 1995 it was discovered by Balling, Shaffer, > >Cerveny > >of Arizona State University that in the course of a lunar cycle, global > >temperatures in the troposphere are warmest about 6-8 days before Full > >moon > >and coolest during New moon. > > Ken, > > given that you have no doubt got these references, could you please tell us > exactly how much warmer? - my bet is about 0.001C. > > While you are at it could you also provide an answer to Jane's email (ie % > sun/moon). > > Regards, > > David > > PS > > list members I have been totally swamped by work... hence the lack of posts, > but still enjoying the content! BTW for those who are hanging out for > winter, take a look at the models scenarios for later this week in the SE. > While it is still early days, these broadly suggest two significant frontal > passages (around Thursday, and then Saturday), with both having temperatures > cold enough for widespread alpine snow. If we see these predicted thickness > values (540gpdm and less), also watch for very strong convective showers in > SE Australian coastal areas, as the local sea surface temperatures are very > warm for this time of year. > > It will be interesting to see how nature and humans react to a good cold > snap, after such a very mild start to autumn - for example, many decidious > trees in our area are still to loose their leaves. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 10:08:31 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler Subject: Re: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? X-X-Sender: robert at duckman.maths.monash.edu.au To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Mon, 13 May 2002, David Jones wrote: > given that you have no doubt got these references, could you please tell us > exactly how much warmer? - my bet is about 0.001C. Actually, if you look at the references Ken mentions, there is an increase in the diurnal temp range of 0.1C, which seems small. You'll find in Geophys. Res. Lett. vol 26, p1605-7. Yet to read the actual articles though. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les Crossan" To: , "Jane ONeill" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 19:14:25 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That's a sketch in Monty Python's Flying Circus. ISTR it had hats with dangly corks in it too! Yes, I'm over 40 (: http://www.montypythonpages.com/sketches/bruces.htm Les -- Les Crossan & Christine Challen, Wallsend, Tyne & Wear, England 55N 0130W les.crossan at blueyonder.co.uk www.uksevereweather.org.uk 62.31.157.178:8000/listen.pls ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Smith" To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic > Hi Jane. > > If my memory is still intact from a rather more heady era, it was from an > episode of Monty Python's Flying Circus. > > Regards, > Carl. > > > >I get the feeling that John may have just given his age group away....in > >the mid-seventies (yes, some of us really are that old) there was a > >rather sad habit going around of calling everyone "Bruce" - you would > >introduce everyone at the parties you went to like this: "Bruce, this is > >Bruce, Bruce, I'd like you to meet Bruce, and Bruce this is Bruce. Btw, > >hi, my name's Bruce" etc ad nauseum.......... > > > >If memory serves me correctly, it had something to do with a D grade (it > >could have been lower though) movie about or starring Bruce (or was it > >Bwuce) Lee. > > > >Can someone who is also in their 40's going on 19 please fill in the > >gaps here? > > > > > >Jane > >-------------------------------- > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne > >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > > >Melbourne Storm Chasers > >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > >ASWA - Victoria > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >-------------------------------- > > > > > >> it's richard, and after today not quite so dry, 4.0mm. > >> could be better but could be worse. as for the expression, i spose i > >tend to > >> speak like a scrubber at times, sorry. > >> > >> regards RM > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: John Gaul > >> To: > >> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:45 AM > >> Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Hopeful > >> > >> > >> > At 22:14 8/05/02 +0930, you wrote: > >> > over here its as dry as a dead dingoes > >> > >donger in a lime burners boot. > >> > > >> > "Thats a stange expression, Bruce" > >> > > >> > > >> > JohnGaul > >> > NZTS > >> > > >> > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >your > >> > message. > >> > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > >- > >> > > >> > >> > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >your > >> message. > >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > >-- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > Carl Smith. > Gold Coast. > Queensland. > Australia. > > Email: carls at qldnet.com.au > Current Tropical Cyclone information : > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm > Weather-Ezine LR forecasting archives: > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ezines/ezineindex.htm > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:27:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane and all, I think the theory is that the heat input and massive diurnal influence of the sun is pretty constant (ignoring sunspot cycles and variations in Earths orbit for the moment) varying from hemisphere to hemisphere throughout the year and that this drives the heat engines which motivate the atmosphere and gross circulations. No question. But the moon, on the hand, exerts a more variable influence according to lunar cycles, and that it is this variance superimposed on global circulations which triggers variance in those circulations (using chaos theory, i.e., a small perturbation can have large consequences), leading to the weather systems as we know it. Of course there are other things which may act to introduce variability in gross circulations, most obviously for example, difference in heat transmitted to the atmosphere over land versus water. The question for me is how significant the gravitational and other effects of the moon are in comparison, and the answer is not so obvious. We should keep in mind that there also may be things we as yet do not know about. It was only a few hundred years ago when mankind simply did not know about or recognise half the forces we know of today (electrical charge, magnetism, and atomic forces). Arguably, the connection between Mass, Gravity and Time is recognised thanks to Einstein but not understood. What Ken and others are saying is that there is an empirical relationship between weather systems and phases/cycles of the moon, which has been used across countless generations and cultures. So why not study it, from which we all stand to gain some enlightenment. Regards John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:34 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? Ken and all, Specifically, what part do you think the sun actually plays? (keep in mind this question is not just about gravity) Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- David My posts are scarcely reaching the aussie-wx list anymore. Something appears to be editing them out. I have posted a reply to Jane's letter three times. Unfortunately it makes me appear reluctant to answer. Not the case at all. I have cced this to aussie-wx and would be interested to know if it doesn't appear. To answer the question, the accepted figure is that the moon has 2.5X the gravitational pull of the sun. That means anything the sun does, the moon does two and a half times more so. This is weird because meteorologists still accept the notion of a solar tide but not a lunar one. As to the Balling figure, during a period of 5934 days(over 200 synodic cycles)between 1979 and 1995, the phase of the moon accounted for a global variation inm temperature of 0.02-0.03degC. Over 17 years of satellite data they found the poles showed a tem range of 0.55degC during a lunar month. This range of temps is 25 X greater than for global temps as a whole. Ken www.predictweather.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Jones" To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > >Incorrect, actually. In 1995 it was discovered by Balling, Shaffer, > >Cerveny > >of Arizona State University that in the course of a lunar cycle, global > >temperatures in the troposphere are warmest about 6-8 days before Full > >moon > >and coolest during New moon. > > Ken, > > given that you have no doubt got these references, could you please tell us > exactly how much warmer? - my bet is about 0.001C. > > While you are at it could you also provide an answer to Jane's email (ie % > sun/moon). > > Regards, > > David > > PS > > list members I have been totally swamped by work... hence the lack of posts, > but still enjoying the content! BTW for those who are hanging out for > winter, take a look at the models scenarios for later this week in the SE. > While it is still early days, these broadly suggest two significant frontal > passages (around Thursday, and then Saturday), with both having temperatures > cold enough for widespread alpine snow. If we see these predicted thickness > values (540gpdm and less), also watch for very strong convective showers in > SE Australian coastal areas, as the local sea surface temperatures are very > warm for this time of year. > > It will be interesting to see how nature and humans react to a good cold > snap, after such a very mild start to autumn - for example, many decidious > trees in our area are still to loose their leaves. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:21:34 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >The question for me > is how significant the gravitational and other effects of the moon are in > comparison, and the answer is not so obvious. It has taken me 27 years off and on of watching it to get to this point. > What Ken and others are saying is that there is an empirical relationship > between weather systems and phases/cycles of the moon, which has been used > across countless generations and cultures. So why not study it, from which > we all stand to gain some enlightenment. I salute your broadmindedness. No one who does not study it has any academic right to claim it has no influence. Ken www.predictweather.com > --------------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > --------------------------------------- > > > David > My posts are scarcely reaching the aussie-wx list anymore. Something appears > to be editing them out. I have posted a reply to Jane's letter three times. > Unfortunately it makes me appear reluctant to answer. Not the case at all. I > have cced this to aussie-wx and would be interested to know if it doesn't > appear. > To answer the question, the accepted figure is that the moon has 2.5X the > gravitational pull of the sun. That means anything the sun does, the moon > does two and a half times more so. This is weird because meteorologists > still accept the notion of a solar tide but not a lunar one. > As to the Balling figure, during a period of 5934 days(over 200 synodic > cycles)between 1979 and 1995, the phase of the moon accounted for a global > variation inm temperature of 0.02-0.03degC. Over 17 years of satellite data > they found the poles showed a tem range of 0.55degC during a lunar month. > This range of temps is 25 X greater than for global temps as a whole. > Ken > www.predictweather.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Jones" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:43 AM > Subject: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > > > > >Incorrect, actually. In 1995 it was discovered by Balling, Shaffer, > > >Cerveny > > >of Arizona State University that in the course of a lunar cycle, global > > >temperatures in the troposphere are warmest about 6-8 days before Full > > >moon > > >and coolest during New moon. > > > > Ken, > > > > given that you have no doubt got these references, could you please tell > us > > exactly how much warmer? - my bet is about 0.001C. > > > > While you are at it could you also provide an answer to Jane's email (ie % > > sun/moon). > > > > Regards, > > > > David > > > > PS > > > > list members I have been totally swamped by work... hence the lack of > posts, > > but still enjoying the content! BTW for those who are hanging out for > > winter, take a look at the models scenarios for later this week in the SE. > > While it is still early days, these broadly suggest two significant > frontal > > passages (around Thursday, and then Saturday), with both having > temperatures > > cold enough for widespread alpine snow. If we see these predicted > thickness > > values (540gpdm and less), also watch for very strong convective showers > in > > SE Australian coastal areas, as the local sea surface temperatures are > very > > warm for this time of year. > > > > It will be interesting to see how nature and humans react to a good cold > > snap, after such a very mild start to autumn - for example, many decidious > > trees in our area are still to loose their leaves. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 15:28:58 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: funny NWS forecast Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This email from the wx-chase email list, thought others might find it funny. Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 09:58:57 -0400 From: "Jesse Ferrell (WeatherMatrix)" Subject: "Severe" Freudian Slip :) Sounds like a severe weather enthusiast is writing the outlook at CTP today, notice how they misspelled "threat" :) SEVERE WEATHER OUTLOOK NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STATE COLLEGE PA 843 AM EDT SUN MAY 12 2002 ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE WEATHER OVER CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA LATER TODAY... ... THE MAIN TREAT TODAY WILL BE STRONG WINDS AND DAMAGING HAIL. ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 16:33:01 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ken & John, I'm not sure why this reply was directed to me, because the comments that you are responding to Ken, are ***not*** mine - they are John Woodbridge's!!! Jane >The question for me > is how significant the gravitational and other effects of the moon are in > comparison, and the answer is not so obvious. It has taken me 27 years off and on of watching it to get to this point. > What Ken and others are saying is that there is an empirical relationship > between weather systems and phases/cycles of the moon, which has been used > across countless generations and cultures. So why not study it, from which > we all stand to gain some enlightenment. I salute your broadmindedness. No one who does not study it has any academic right to claim it has no influence. Ken www.predictweather.com > --------------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > --------------------------------------- > > > David > My posts are scarcely reaching the aussie-wx list anymore. Something appears > to be editing them out. I have posted a reply to Jane's letter three times. > Unfortunately it makes me appear reluctant to answer. Not the case at all. I > have cced this to aussie-wx and would be interested to know if it doesn't > appear. > To answer the question, the accepted figure is that the moon has 2.5X the > gravitational pull of the sun. That means anything the sun does, the moon > does two and a half times more so. This is weird because meteorologists > still accept the notion of a solar tide but not a lunar one. > As to the Balling figure, during a period of 5934 days(over 200 synodic > cycles)between 1979 and 1995, the phase of the moon accounted for a global > variation inm temperature of 0.02-0.03degC. Over 17 years of satellite data > they found the poles showed a tem range of 0.55degC during a lunar month. > This range of temps is 25 X greater than for global temps as a whole. > Ken > www.predictweather.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Jones" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:43 AM > Subject: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > > > > >Incorrect, actually. In 1995 it was discovered by Balling, Shaffer, > > >Cerveny > > >of Arizona State University that in the course of a lunar cycle, global > > >temperatures in the troposphere are warmest about 6-8 days before Full > > >moon > > >and coolest during New moon. > > > > Ken, > > > > given that you have no doubt got these references, could you please tell > us > > exactly how much warmer? - my bet is about 0.001C. > > > > While you are at it could you also provide an answer to Jane's email (ie % > > sun/moon). > > > > Regards, > > > > David > > > > PS > > > > list members I have been totally swamped by work... hence the lack of > posts, > > but still enjoying the content! BTW for those who are hanging out for > > winter, take a look at the models scenarios for later this week in the SE. > > While it is still early days, these broadly suggest two significant > frontal > > passages (around Thursday, and then Saturday), with both having > temperatures > > cold enough for widespread alpine snow. If we see these predicted > thickness > > values (540gpdm and less), also watch for very strong convective showers > in > > SE Australian coastal areas, as the local sea surface temperatures are > very > > warm for this time of year. > > > > It will be interesting to see how nature and humans react to a good cold > > snap, after such a very mild start to autumn - for example, many decidious > > trees in our area are still to loose their leaves. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: was - Nathan from Golden Grove = snow To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:53:50 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Whaddaya reckon is the highest town in the Flinders Ranges? Melrose? Quorn? > >Hawker? Not that is really matters - just curious. Good to see Adelaide is > >getting some wet stuff at last! But with an El Nino, Perth will probably > >have a wet winter, while Adelaide will be a little bit on the dry side. > >Things are already looking that way.... > >Cheers, > >Duncan > >Alice Springs > > > Highest town in the Flinders? Blinman at 620m asl. It's about 50km NNE of > Wilpena Pound. Been there several times - an old copper mining town. Very > rustic. Bit north for snow at that altitude methinks - but I guess > anything's possible..... > It snowed down to ~200m in the Flinders Ranges on 21-22 October 1995. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:43:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Errmm Jane, I think you invited response from "all..." (Hence why I chimed in) So I guess we thought it was a group chat such as one can have here. No offence intended incidentally. John. >snip Ken and all, Specifically, what part do you think the sun actually plays? (keep in mind this question is not just about gravity) Jane -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:33 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? Ken & John, I'm not sure why this reply was directed to me, because the comments that you are responding to Ken, are ***not*** mine - they are John Woodbridge's!!! Jane >The question for me > is how significant the gravitational and other effects of the moon are in > comparison, and the answer is not so obvious. It has taken me 27 years off and on of watching it to get to this point. > What Ken and others are saying is that there is an empirical relationship > between weather systems and phases/cycles of the moon, which has been used > across countless generations and cultures. So why not study it, from which > we all stand to gain some enlightenment. I salute your broadmindedness. No one who does not study it has any academic right to claim it has no influence. Ken +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Another coldie in Northern Sydney Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:11:01 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 6.8 degrees was recorded at my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River in Sydney's Northern Suburbs last night. It was 9.1 degrees at 8:05am this morning. You can see all the temperatures recorded onto a page on my website. On my main page click on 'My Other Pages', then click on 'My Weather Page': http://www.geocities.com/damoreds/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:08:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2002 08:08:40.0782 (UTC) FILETIME=[6477C6E0:01C1FA55] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ken OK I accept that the moon produces a bit of heat - certainly doesn't warm me up much. However, it does (as you say) produce enough heat to influence weather. But I still can't see (pardon me) what it actually does to influence weather (especially at a regional or local level). Please advise. Respectfully Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 5:43 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > Errmm Jane, > > I think you invited response from "all..." (Hence why I chimed in) So I > guess we thought it was a group chat such as one can have here. No offence > intended incidentally. > > John. > > >snip > > Ken and all, > > Specifically, what part do you think the sun actually plays? (keep in mind > this question is not just about gravity) > > Jane > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:33 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > > > Ken & John, > > I'm not sure why this reply was directed to me, because the comments that > you are responding to Ken, are ***not*** mine - they are John > Woodbridge's!!! > > Jane > > > > >The question for me > > is how significant the gravitational and other effects of the moon are in > > comparison, and the answer is not so obvious. > It has taken me 27 years off and on of watching it to get to this point. > > > What Ken and others are saying is that there is an empirical relationship > > between weather systems and phases/cycles of the moon, which has been used > > across countless generations and cultures. So why not study it, from > which > > we all stand to gain some enlightenment. > I salute your broadmindedness. No one who does not study it has any academic > right to claim it has no influence. > Ken > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: email a.d Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:25:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks for the new email! I havn't heard from you in a while. How's the business going? How do you like things in Ballina? Sydney's the same old same old. Damian 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/damoreds/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 20:43:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Bussy & Clyve, Here's the table Bussy was talking about. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/HERSCHEL.htm Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- > Hi Bussie. > If you have a prediction from Herschel for 1911, I have the entire 1911 > weather for all of Australia thanks to a famous meteorologist of the time a > Mr Hunt, so we can make some comparisons regards Clyve H. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bussy > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 3:45 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon > > > > I'm gunna join in here. I also leave myself wide open as I, and I think > > no-one will ever get mother natures "moods" right. I have here a > reproduced > > copy of Herschel's weather predictions etc that work "for ever". It will > > come as an attachment if I am allowed to send it to the list which is a > > no-no. Permission from Jacob and I will send it. It is a Word document > > re-typed from a Coles Family Almanac from 1911. Permission from the "boss" > > and I'll attach it. > > Even to the point where the forecast is given for the whole of 1911. My > eyes > > are always wide open :-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Mossman" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:25 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon > > > > > > > I have read with interest the information from both sides regarding the > > Moon > > > and it's effects (or possible effects) on our weather etc. > > > > > > I am quite surprised at some of the arrogance (for want of a better > word) > > > shown by some of the members of this list regarding Ken's predicitions. > > > > > > While I also struggle to completely understand the principle eluciated > > off > > > due to I nevertheless have not written them off due to my ignorance. > > > > > > To me it seems the wetaher community still has a lot to learn about our > > > atmosphere, and to go ridiculing another art of forecasting, smacks alot > > of > > > atmospheric arrogance! > > > > > > I enjoyed the tide -v- atmosphere effects by the moon scenario, and it > > > certainly struck the possibility in me that MAYBE there is some truth in > > > Ken's theories.....afterall our ancestors used the stars for many > things, > > > INCLUDING predicting the weather. > > > > > > I would hardly call it fair to call him a charlotan due to ignorance.... > > > > > > Rgds, Paul > > > > > > ----- > > > From: "Damian" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 1:33 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: Tornado on the North Shore?? > > > > > > > > > > Did anyone catch the news article in yesterdays Weekend Edition of the > > > > Sydney Morning Herald Headlined 'Lifes Memories all on the back of a > > > > postcard'? > > > > The article is about an exhibiton at the Don Bank Museum showing old > > > > postcards & one of the postcards is about a tornado that swept through > > > Crows > > > > Nest & Naremburn in 1906 with the photo / postcard showing a little > boy > > & > > > an > > > > older man sitting amid debris of what was once their home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- --- > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 20:50:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Except it's for the northern hemisphere - anyone have the weather for England in 1911????? I doubt that this will be specific enough though..... > Bussy & Clyve, > > Here's the table Bussy was talking about. > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/HERSCHEL.htm -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > Hi Bussie. > > If you have a prediction from Herschel for 1911, I have the entire > 1911 > > weather for all of Australia thanks to a famous meteorologist of the > time a > > Mr Hunt, so we can make some comparisons regards Clyve H. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bussy > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 3:45 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon > > > > > > > I'm gunna join in here. I also leave myself wide open as I, and I > think > > > no-one will ever get mother natures "moods" right. I have here a > > reproduced > > > copy of Herschel's weather predictions etc that work "for ever". It > will > > > come as an attachment if I am allowed to send it to the list which > is a > > > no-no. Permission from Jacob and I will send it. It is a Word > document > > > re-typed from a Coles Family Almanac from 1911. Permission from the > "boss" > > > and I'll attach it. > > > Even to the point where the forecast is given for the whole of 1911. > My > > eyes > > > are always wide open :-) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Paul Mossman" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:25 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon > > > > > > > > > > I have read with interest the information from both sides > regarding the > > > Moon > > > > and it's effects (or possible effects) on our weather etc. > > > > > > > > I am quite surprised at some of the arrogance (for want of a > better > > word) > > > > shown by some of the members of this list regarding Ken's > predicitions. > > > > > > > > While I also struggle to completely understand the principle > eluciated > > > off > > > > due to I nevertheless have not written them off due to my > ignorance. > > > > > > > > To me it seems the wetaher community still has a lot to learn > about our > > > > atmosphere, and to go ridiculing another art of forecasting, > smacks alot > > > of > > > > atmospheric arrogance! > > > > > > > > I enjoyed the tide -v- atmosphere effects by the moon scenario, > and it > > > > certainly struck the possibility in me that MAYBE there is some > truth in > > > > Ken's theories.....afterall our ancestors used the stars for many > > things, > > > > INCLUDING predicting the weather. > > > > > > > > I would hardly call it fair to call him a charlotan due to > ignorance.... > > > > > > > > Rgds, Paul > > > > > > > > ----- > > > > From: "Damian" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 1:33 PM > > > > Subject: aus-wx: Tornado on the North Shore?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did anyone catch the news article in yesterdays Weekend Edition > of the > > > > > Sydney Morning Herald Headlined 'Lifes Memories all on the back > of a > > > > > postcard'? > > > > > The article is about an exhibiton at the Don Bank Museum showing > old > > > > > postcards & one of the postcards is about a tornado that swept > through > > > > Crows > > > > > Nest & Naremburn in 1906 with the photo / postcard showing a > little > > boy > > > & > > > > an > > > > > older man sitting amid debris of what was once their home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- > --- > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- -- > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- -- > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 20:49:44 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com sorry guys, i feel like a fox in a chicken coop but my origional comment was about the weather, i had no idea about the bruce bit, and i'm 43, thanks for your enlightenment. regards RM ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Clarke To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 5:45 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic > No I'm not over 40 - not yet (but don't really care anyway). > > But there was a long held (comical) belief in the UK when I was young that > in addition to all aussie blokes being named Bruce, that all the ladies were > called Sheila. > > > > Regards > Simon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Woodbridge" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:06 AM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic > > > > Hi, > > > > Tend to agree with that - but as an addendum, not that long ago, in a > > memorable interview, Douglas Adams of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy fame > > (now sadly departed), was able prove that all Australian men were in fact, > > called Bruce. > > > > John > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Carl Smith > > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 11:39 PM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic > > > > > > Hi Jane. > > > > If my memory is still intact from a rather more heady era, it was from an > > episode of Monty Python's Flying Circus. > > > > Regards, > > Carl. > > > > > > >I get the feeling that John may have just given his age group away....in > > >the mid-seventies (yes, some of us really are that old) there was a > > >rather sad habit going around of calling everyone "Bruce" - you would > > >introduce everyone at the parties you went to like this: "Bruce, this is > > >Bruce, Bruce, I'd like you to meet Bruce, and Bruce this is Bruce. Btw, > > >hi, my name's Bruce" etc ad nauseum.......... > > > > > >If memory serves me correctly, it had something to do with a D grade (it > > >could have been lower though) movie about or starring Bruce (or was it > > >Bwuce) Lee. > > > > > >Can someone who is also in their 40's going on 19 please fill in the > > >gaps here? > > > > > > > > >Jane > > >-------------------------------- > > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > > > > >Melbourne Storm Chasers > > >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > > >ASWA - Victoria > > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > >-------------------------------- > > > > > > > > >> it's richard, and after today not quite so dry, 4.0mm. > > >> could be better but could be worse. as for the expression, i spose i > > >tend to > > >> speak like a scrubber at times, sorry. > > >> > > >> regards RM > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: John Gaul > > >> To: > > >> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:45 AM > > >> Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Hopeful > > >> > > >> > > >> > At 22:14 8/05/02 +0930, you wrote: > > >> > over here its as dry as a dead dingoes > > >> > >donger in a lime burners boot. > > >> > > > >> > "Thats a stange expression, Bruce" > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > JohnGaul > > >> > NZTS > > >> > > > >> > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > >your > > >> > message. > > >> > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > >- > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > >your > > >> message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > >-- > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > Carl Smith. > > Gold Coast. > > Queensland. > > Australia. > > > > Email: carls at qldnet.com.au > > Current Tropical Cyclone information : > > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > > Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : > > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm > > Weather-Ezine LR forecasting archives: > > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ezines/ezineindex.htm > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 23:47:55 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > But I still can't see (pardon me) what it (moon)actually does to influence weather > (especially at a regional or local level). It is the atmospheric tide which is the cause of the trough or front and may or may not be accompanied by a lowering of the barometer; probably starting with very little variation between big and low atmospheric tide then for a day or so the variation between high and low tide is more pronounced, giving rain and then slowly returning to a more even atmospheric depth as moon phases alter. The variations suggested here are caused by the orbital movement of the moon, which has a regular 29.5 day orbit to the east but also a mismatching orbit(27.5 days) each lunar month from the southern hemisphere to the northern hemisphere and back again. It is this regular trek from the south to the north and back again which is the true cause of changing barometric pressures. Exceptionally high pressures are usually during the winter months and when the moon is in the most southern part of its orbit or declination. During the winter months the new moon occurs while the moon is at the northern point of the declination and while the sun is near the same position. The full moon occurs when the moon is at its southernmost point of declination. The position is reversed during our mid summer with the new moon occurring while the moon is at its southernmost declination. The new moon occurs over the equator in March and September. The other quarters of the moon occur in similar positions in their turn throughout the year. Barometric pressures are mostly lower in our summer or about the months of December, January and February for the reason that when the moon is full, it is at its northern declination and while in this position the barometric pressures are usually lower and the moon's gravitational pull has taken some of the atmosphere with it. It is at this time that the daytime temps. are warmer because the full moon is a night moon, the full tide condition is at night and a consequent low tide is during day time hours. The reason is that the sun's rays penetrate directly to the ground without being hindered by a greater thickness of atmosphere which would normally absorb the sun's rays. Forget ozone - the hottest time of the summer month is full moon-last quarter. When the moon is new in our summer, i.e, over the southern hemisphere, the atmosphere is attracted to this side of the earth, and with the assistance of the sun's gravitational pull the height of the atmosphere must be considerable and the atmosphere being our blanket, gives us warm humid conditions with greater cloud cover. This can be seen to gather towards midday and clear towards evening. Rain, when it is about, is nearly always day rain.The barometer is lower because the moon ansd sun together attract the atmosphgere to a higher atmospheric tide and the air pressure on a barometer is reduced(molecules of air can expand). There's a bit of it - but I'd better get off or Jane will say I go on too long.. Ken Ring www.predictweather.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Woodbridge" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 5:43 PM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > > > > Errmm Jane, > > > > I think you invited response from "all..." (Hence why I chimed in) So I > > guess we thought it was a group chat such as one can have here. No > offence > > intended incidentally. > > > > John. > > > > >snip > > > > Ken and all, > > > > Specifically, what part do you think the sun actually plays? (keep in > mind > > this question is not just about gravity) > > > > Jane > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:33 PM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > > > > > > Ken & John, > > > > I'm not sure why this reply was directed to me, because the comments tha t > > you are responding to Ken, are ***not*** mine - they are John > > Woodbridge's!!! > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > >The question for me > > > is how significant the gravitational and other effects of the moon are > in > > > comparison, and the answer is not so obvious. > > It has taken me 27 years off and on of watching it to get to this point. > > > > > What Ken and others are saying is that there is an empirical > relationship > > > between weather systems and phases/cycles of the moon, which has been > used > > > across countless generations and cultures. So why not study it, from > > which > > > we all stand to gain some enlightenment. > > I salute your broadmindedness. No one who does not study it has any > academic > > right to claim it has no influence. > > Ken > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 22:27:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2002 12:29:08.0199 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7225F70:01C1FA79] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Mr Ring. Thank you for the explanation, now we can all go away and make up our minds as to what process actually governs the weather of planet Earth!......best wishes Clyve Herbert....... ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Ring To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 9:47 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > > > But I still can't see (pardon me) what it (moon)actually does to influence > weather > > (especially at a regional or local level). > It is the atmospheric tide which is the cause of the trough or front and may > or may not be accompanied by a lowering of the barometer; probably starting > with very little variation between big and low atmospheric tide then for a > day or so the variation between high and low tide is more pronounced, giving > rain and then slowly returning to a more even atmospheric depth as moon > phases alter. > The variations suggested here are caused by the orbital movement of the > moon, which has a regular 29.5 day orbit to the east but also a mismatching > orbit(27.5 days) each lunar month from the southern hemisphere to the > northern hemisphere and back again. It is this regular trek from the south > to the north and back again which is the true cause of changing barometric > pressures. > Exceptionally high pressures are usually during the winter months and when > the moon is in the most southern part of its orbit or declination. During > the winter months the new moon occurs while the moon is at the northern > point of the declination and while the sun is near the same position. The > full moon occurs when the moon is at its southernmost point of declination. > The position is reversed during our mid summer with the new moon occurring > while the moon is at its southernmost declination. > The new moon occurs over the equator in March and September. The other > quarters of the moon occur in similar positions in their turn throughout the > year. > Barometric pressures are mostly lower in our summer or about the months of > December, January and February for the reason that when the moon is full, it > is at its northern declination and while in this position the barometric > pressures are usually lower and the moon's gravitational pull has taken some > of the atmosphere with it. It is at this time that the daytime temps. are > warmer because the full moon is a night moon, the full tide condition is at > night and a consequent low tide is during day time hours. > The reason is that the sun's rays penetrate directly to the ground without > being hindered by a greater thickness of atmosphere which would normally > absorb the sun's rays. Forget ozone - the hottest time of the summer month > is full moon-last quarter. When the moon is new in our summer, i.e, over the > southern hemisphere, the atmosphere is attracted to this side of the earth, > and with the assistance of the sun's gravitational pull the height of the > atmosphere must be considerable and the atmosphere being our blanket, gives > us warm humid conditions with greater cloud cover. This can be seen to > gather towards midday and clear towards evening. Rain, when it is about, is > nearly always day rain.The barometer is lower because the moon ansd sun > together attract the atmosphgere to a higher atmospheric tide and the air > pressure on a barometer is reduced(molecules of air can expand). > There's a bit of it - but I'd better get off or Jane will say I go on too > long.. > Ken Ring > www.predictweather.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Woodbridge" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 5:43 PM > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > > > > > > > Errmm Jane, > > > > > > I think you invited response from "all..." (Hence why I chimed in) So I > > > guess we thought it was a group chat such as one can have here. No > > offence > > > intended incidentally. > > > > > > John. > > > > > > >snip > > > > > > Ken and all, > > > > > > Specifically, what part do you think the sun actually plays? (keep in > > mind > > > this question is not just about gravity) > > > > > > Jane > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill > > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:33 PM > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > > > > > > > > > Ken & John, > > > > > > I'm not sure why this reply was directed to me, because the comments tha > t > > > you are responding to Ken, are ***not*** mine - they are John > > > Woodbridge's!!! > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > >The question for me > > > > is how significant the gravitational and other effects of the moon are > > in > > > > comparison, and the answer is not so obvious. > > > It has taken me 27 years off and on of watching it to get to this point. > > > > > > > What Ken and others are saying is that there is an empirical > > relationship > > > > between weather systems and phases/cycles of the moon, which has been > > used > > > > across countless generations and cultures. So why not study it, from > > > which > > > > we all stand to gain some enlightenment. > > > I salute your broadmindedness. No one who does not study it has any > > academic > > > right to claim it has no influence. > > > Ken > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: China cloud mass. Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 22:51:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2002 12:53:00.0689 (UTC) FILETIME=[1CF70010:01C1FA7D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Phil.
That's a proper cloud mass over south and central China!, A very impressive and large baroclinic region, the moisture source can be traced to the tropical disturbance over the southern Bay of Bengal which was the original mirror tropical low to TC Errol to the south of Indonesia, fascinating stuff, I presume you are gearing up for the coming monsoon season in your area?. regards Clyve H.
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 00:02:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well the plural "sheilas" is still my retired father-in-law's favourite term for describing young nubile ladies. My mother emigrated to Oz in 1963, and got all sorts of ribbing from the local yahoos because her name actually was Sheila. Speaking of old terms, I heard one at the annual NNSW ASWA BBQ at Michael Baths a couple of weeks ago - where a couple of chappies (respectful term) were talking about what they had heard on the "wireless". It has been more years than I care to remember since I have heard that word used. John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Simon Clarke Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:16 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic No I'm not over 40 - not yet (but don't really care anyway). But there was a long held (comical) belief in the UK when I was young that in addition to all aussie blokes being named Bruce, that all the ladies were called Sheila. Regards Simon +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 08:38:04 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com When I was a teenager the term "sheilas" had been changed by rhyming slang to "Charley Wheelers", but as that proved a bit of a mouthful to say, it was frequently shortened to "Charleys". At that time it was considered very disrespectful to ever use any bad language in the presence of any ladies. So the warning "Here come the Charleys!" meant that we all had to watch our language. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 00:02:43 +1000 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic > Well the plural "sheilas" is still my retired father-in-law's favourite > term > for describing young nubile ladies. My mother emigrated to Oz in 1963, > and > got all sorts of ribbing from the local yahoos because her name > actually was > Sheila. > > Speaking of old terms, I heard one at the annual NNSW ASWA BBQ at > Michael > Baths a couple of weeks ago - where a couple of chappies (respectful > term) > were talking about what they had heard on the "wireless". It has been > more > years than I care to remember since I have heard that word used. > > John. > >snip > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Simon Clarke > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:16 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic > > > No I'm not over 40 - not yet (but don't really care anyway). > > But there was a long held (comical) belief in the UK when I was young > that > in addition to all aussie blokes being named Bruce, that all the ladies > were > called Sheila. > > > > Regards > Simon > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 09:30:21 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: China cloud mass. X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, Clyve, it looks like we will cop a lot more rain in the next few days. The term "Monsoon" here refers to cloudless blue skies and sunny days which occur during winter when the Northerly Monsoon blows bringing cold, clear weather. I think you meant to say we are gearing up for the typhoon season. The typhoon experts around here are predicting an average or a less than average number of typhoons for this season. The enthusiastic young kids always are predicting more. I've been around here long enough to "wait and see". Actually of far greater interest right at this moment id the cloud mass near Chuuk which is tightening up and spinning well. I reckon JTWC will call it a TD within a few hours, and even JMA have already described it as a LPA which they are keeping track of. I shall be adding it to my page at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm as soon as I get done with going through my e-mail. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 22:51:42 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: China cloud mass. > Hi Phil. > That's a proper cloud mass over south and central China!, A very > impressive and large baroclinic region, the moisture source can be > traced to the tropical disturbance over the southern Bay of Bengal > which was the original mirror tropical low to TC Errol to the south of > Indonesia, fascinating stuff, I presume you are gearing up for the > coming monsoon season in your area?. regards Clyve H. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: China cloud mass. Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:56:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2002 04:57:33.0909 (UTC) FILETIME=[DC179050:01C1FB03] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Phil. I was watching that area around Chuuk last night it looked a bit 'freckly'! i.e. convection was scattered here and there,also upper divergence was a little on the weak side, other than all that it is a large area of positive convection, this region seems to rank as one of the most active TC breeding grounds on the Planet.. regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Smith To: Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: China cloud mass. > Yes, Clyve, it looks like we will cop a lot more rain in the next few > days. > The term "Monsoon" here refers to cloudless blue skies and sunny days > which occur during winter when the Northerly Monsoon blows bringing cold, > clear weather. > I think you meant to say we are gearing up for the typhoon season. > The typhoon experts around here are predicting an average or a less than > average number of typhoons for this season. > The enthusiastic young kids always are predicting more. > I've been around here long enough to "wait and see". > Actually of far greater interest right at this moment id the cloud mass > near Chuuk which is tightening up and spinning well. I reckon JTWC will > call it a TD within a few hours, and even JMA have already described it > as a LPA which they are keeping track of. > I shall be adding it to my page at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > as soon as I get done with going through my e-mail. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Clyve Herbert" > To: > Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 22:51:42 +1000 > Subject: aus-wx: China cloud mass. > > > Hi Phil. > > That's a proper cloud mass over south and central China!, A very > > impressive and large baroclinic region, the moisture source can be > > traced to the tropical disturbance over the southern Bay of Bengal > > which was the original mirror tropical low to TC Errol to the south of > > Indonesia, fascinating stuff, I presume you are gearing up for the > > coming monsoon season in your area?. regards Clyve H. > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:15:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2002 08:15:22.0235 (UTC) FILETIME=[53C0A4B0:01C1FA56] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com No I'm not over 40 - not yet (but don't really care anyway). But there was a long held (comical) belief in the UK when I was young that in addition to all aussie blokes being named Bruce, that all the ladies were called Sheila. Regards Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:06 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic > Hi, > > Tend to agree with that - but as an addendum, not that long ago, in a > memorable interview, Douglas Adams of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy fame > (now sadly departed), was able prove that all Australian men were in fact, > called Bruce. > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Carl Smith > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 11:39 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic > > > Hi Jane. > > If my memory is still intact from a rather more heady era, it was from an > episode of Monty Python's Flying Circus. > > Regards, > Carl. > > > >I get the feeling that John may have just given his age group away....in > >the mid-seventies (yes, some of us really are that old) there was a > >rather sad habit going around of calling everyone "Bruce" - you would > >introduce everyone at the parties you went to like this: "Bruce, this is > >Bruce, Bruce, I'd like you to meet Bruce, and Bruce this is Bruce. Btw, > >hi, my name's Bruce" etc ad nauseum.......... > > > >If memory serves me correctly, it had something to do with a D grade (it > >could have been lower though) movie about or starring Bruce (or was it > >Bwuce) Lee. > > > >Can someone who is also in their 40's going on 19 please fill in the > >gaps here? > > > > > >Jane > >-------------------------------- > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne > >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > > >Melbourne Storm Chasers > >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > >ASWA - Victoria > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >-------------------------------- > > > > > >> it's richard, and after today not quite so dry, 4.0mm. > >> could be better but could be worse. as for the expression, i spose i > >tend to > >> speak like a scrubber at times, sorry. > >> > >> regards RM > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: John Gaul > >> To: > >> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:45 AM > >> Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Hopeful > >> > >> > >> > At 22:14 8/05/02 +0930, you wrote: > >> > over here its as dry as a dead dingoes > >> > >donger in a lime burners boot. > >> > > >> > "Thats a stange expression, Bruce" > >> > > >> > > >> > JohnGaul > >> > NZTS > >> > > >> > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >your > >> > message. > >> > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > >- > >> > > >> > >> > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >your > >> message. > >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > >-- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > Carl Smith. > Gold Coast. > Queensland. > Australia. > > Email: carls at qldnet.com.au > Current Tropical Cyclone information : > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm > Weather-Ezine LR forecasting archives: > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ezines/ezineindex.htm > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting, Weather and the Moon Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:48:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Don't wish to be a bigger dork than normal but where's it say it's for the northern hemisphere? > Except it's for the northern hemisphere - anyone have the weather for > England in 1911????? I doubt that this will be specific enough > though..... > > > Bussy & Clyve, > > > > Here's the table Bussy was talking about. > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/HERSCHEL.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Tropo stuff. Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:52:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2002 07:54:16.0085 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B7B3C50:01C1FB1C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi tropo's.
Over the past two weeks some of you may have noticed the 'mirror' phenomena between the tropical regions of the northern and southern hemisphere...first was the twin TC's over the western Indian Ocean,then the twin tropical lows near to Indonesia's  west coast one of which became TC Errol and now there seems to be a another possible twin development east of New Guinea over the northern and southern hemisphere about 5n and 5s. This area has become convectively positive over the past several days and appears connected to the Julian/Madden equatorial wave process. regards Clyve H.
From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:32:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2002 07:32:12.0113 (UTC) FILETIME=[76552410:01C1FB19] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Ken I have an open and inquisitive mind - I find it very interesting. Regards Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:27 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > Hello Mr Ring. > Thank you for the explanation, now we can all go away and make up our minds > as to what process actually governs the weather of planet Earth!......best > wishes Clyve Herbert....... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken Ring > To: > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 9:47 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > > > > > > > But I still can't see (pardon me) what it (moon)actually does to > influence > > weather > > > (especially at a regional or local level). > > It is the atmospheric tide which is the cause of the trough or front and > may > > or may not be accompanied by a lowering of the barometer; probably > starting > > with very little variation between big and low atmospheric tide then for a > > day or so the variation between high and low tide is more pronounced, > giving > > rain and then slowly returning to a more even atmospheric depth as moon > > phases alter. > > The variations suggested here are caused by the orbital movement of the > > moon, which has a regular 29.5 day orbit to the east but also a > mismatching > > orbit(27.5 days) each lunar month from the southern hemisphere to the > > northern hemisphere and back again. It is this regular trek from the south > > to the north and back again which is the true cause of changing barometric > > pressures. > > Exceptionally high pressures are usually during the winter months and when > > the moon is in the most southern part of its orbit or declination. During > > the winter months the new moon occurs while the moon is at the northern > > point of the declination and while the sun is near the same position. The > > full moon occurs when the moon is at its southernmost point of > declination. > > The position is reversed during our mid summer with the new moon occurring > > while the moon is at its southernmost declination. > > The new moon occurs over the equator in March and September. The other > > quarters of the moon occur in similar positions in their turn throughout > the > > year. > > Barometric pressures are mostly lower in our summer or about the months of > > December, January and February for the reason that when the moon is full, > it > > is at its northern declination and while in this position the barometric > > pressures are usually lower and the moon's gravitational pull has taken > some > > of the atmosphere with it. It is at this time that the daytime temps. are > > warmer because the full moon is a night moon, the full tide condition is > at > > night and a consequent low tide is during day time hours. > > The reason is that the sun's rays penetrate directly to the ground without > > being hindered by a greater thickness of atmosphere which would normally > > absorb the sun's rays. Forget ozone - the hottest time of the summer month > > is full moon-last quarter. When the moon is new in our summer, i.e, over > the > > southern hemisphere, the atmosphere is attracted to this side of the > earth, > > and with the assistance of the sun's gravitational pull the height of the > > atmosphere must be considerable and the atmosphere being our blanket, > gives > > us warm humid conditions with greater cloud cover. This can be seen to > > gather towards midday and clear towards evening. Rain, when it is about, > is > > nearly always day rain.The barometer is lower because the moon ansd sun > > together attract the atmosphgere to a higher atmospheric tide and the air > > pressure on a barometer is reduced(molecules of air can expand). > > There's a bit of it - but I'd better get off or Jane will say I go on too > > long.. > > Ken Ring > > www.predictweather.com > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John Woodbridge" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 5:43 PM > > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > > > > > > > > > > Errmm Jane, > > > > > > > > I think you invited response from "all..." (Hence why I chimed in) So > I > > > > guess we thought it was a group chat such as one can have here. No > > > offence > > > > intended incidentally. > > > > > > > > John. > > > > > > > > >snip > > > > > > > > Ken and all, > > > > > > > > Specifically, what part do you think the sun actually plays? (keep > in > > > mind > > > > this question is not just about gravity) > > > > > > > > Jane > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill > > > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:33 PM > > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: lunar-solar questions? > > > > > > > > > > > > Ken & John, > > > > > > > > I'm not sure why this reply was directed to me, because the comments > tha > > t > > > > you are responding to Ken, are ***not*** mine - they are John > > > > Woodbridge's!!! > > > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The question for me > > > > > is how significant the gravitational and other effects of the moon > are > > > in > > > > > comparison, and the answer is not so obvious. > > > > It has taken me 27 years off and on of watching it to get to this > point. > > > > > > > > > What Ken and others are saying is that there is an empirical > > > relationship > > > > > between weather systems and phases/cycles of the moon, which has > been > > > used > > > > > across countless generations and cultures. So why not study it, > from > > > > which > > > > > we all stand to gain some enlightenment. > > > > I salute your broadmindedness. No one who does not study it has any > > > academic > > > > right to claim it has no influence. > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 18:35:57 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: aus-wx: NZ Weather Reports in text format Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm looking for hourly weather obs for New Zealand, which are kept up to date. The files should be in text format (easier to process) and have a consistent format. An example of what I'm looking for (from the Aus BoM) can be seen at ftp://ftp2.bom.gov.au/anon/gen/fwo/IDY03023.txt Is there something similar available for NZ? 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tropo stuff. Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:12:10 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI Clyve,
 
Yep well spotted. Its actually connected with an active Kelvin wave. The Madden Julian Pulse is currently located at about 130E. It is currently interactibg with the Kelvin wave at about that area.
 
Rgds
Paul
 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:22 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Tropo stuff.

Hi tropo's.
Over the past two weeks some of you may have noticed the 'mirror' phenomena between the tropical regions of the northern and southern hemisphere...first was the twin TC's over the western Indian Ocean,then the twin tropical lows near to Indonesia's  west coast one of which became TC Errol and now there seems to be a another possible twin development east of New Guinea over the northern and southern hemisphere about 5n and 5s. This area has become convectively positive over the past several days and appears connected to the Julian/Madden equatorial wave process. regards Clyve H.
From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Freewx- Bathurst Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 23:26:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI All.
 
I have setup a free wx setup via my home WM-918 in Bathurst, it will now upload each few hours via the net to this page. 
 
 
This will be very handy over these next coming months for winter. 
 
The page is very simple at this stage, will have to add a few details later on.
 
Dave
Bathurst
 
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 06:11:00 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tropo stuff. X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes Clyve, the MJO just keeps spawning more twins as it progresses. Here is part of an e-mail from Gary Padgett (answering Jim Leonard) on another list I'm a member of: ================= [regarding the current NWP Depression] This system was spawned by the same MJO which triggered the Indian Ocean quads. I'm not surprised to see this happen, and I think it highly likely something may develop a little later on in the Eastpac which it moves south of Central America. Pamela was very damaging to Guam--at the time it was the strongest to affect Guam since Karen of 1962. >I see the depression south of Chuuk is really rapidly organizing at the >moment. The models show it will be tracking close to Guam in a few days. >This is the area where the supertyphoons usually originate in the Spring >months. Sty-Pamela came from this general area in May of 1976. I see no >reason that this storm won't make it to 140kts sometime in its life >time. Unlike some systems this storm has a very tight center, so I would >expect rapid development in the next couple of days. >Jim Leonard. > =============== Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:52:56 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Tropo stuff. > Hi tropo's. > Over the past two weeks some of you may have noticed the 'mirror' > phenomena between the tropical regions of the northern and southern > hemisphere...first was the twin TC's over the western Indian Ocean,then > the twin tropical lows near to Indonesia's west coast one of which > became TC Errol and now there seems to be a another possible twin > development east of New Guinea over the northern and southern > hemisphere about 5n and 5s. This area has become convectively positive > over the past several days and appears connected to the Julian/Madden > equatorial wave process. regards Clyve H. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:11:02 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2002 01:11:03.0233 (UTC) FILETIME=[61D4BB10:01C1FBAD] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

similar vintage to you phil - little younger.  vaguely recall 'charlies' being used to describe women and now its derivation is explained!  wonder who 'charley wheeler' was?

To try and get this back on topic, can anyone think of any rhymming slang for weather terms?  Or perhaps like 'flang' we could invent our own!

>From: "Phil Smith"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic
>Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 08:38:04 +0800
>
>When I was a teenager the term "sheilas" had been changed by rhyming
>slang to "Charley Wheelers", but as that proved a bit of a mouthful to
>say, it was frequently shortened to "Charleys".
>At that time it was considered very disrespectful to ever use any bad
>language in the presence of any ladies.
>So the warning "Here come the Charleys!" meant that we all had to watch
>our language.
>
>Phil
><><
>
>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
>Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "John Woodbridge"
>To:
>Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 00:02:43 +1000
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic
>
> > Well the plural "sheilas" is still my retired father-in-law's favourite
> > term
> > for describing young nubile ladies. My mother emigrated to Oz in 1963,
> > and
> > got all sorts of ribbing from the local yahoos because her name
> > actually was
> > Sheila.
> >
> > Speaking of old terms, I heard one at the annual NNSW ASWA BBQ at
> > Michael
> > Baths a couple of weeks ago - where a couple of chappies (respectful
> > term)
> > were talking about what they had heard on the "wireless". It has been
> > more
> > years than I care to remember since I have heard that word used.
> >
> > John.
> > >snip
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Simon Clarke
> > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:16 PM
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Was Hopeful, now: very offtopic
> >
> >
> > No I'm not over 40 - not yet (but don't really care anyway).
> >
> > But there was a long held (comical) belief in the UK when I was young
> > that
> > in addition to all aussie blokes being named Bruce, that all the ladies
> > were
> > called Sheila.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Simon
> >
> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
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From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Need help with Freewx webpage Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:17:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Has anyone had success with installing & using a freewx webpage to show their WM-918 weather Stns data on the net?
I've downloaded Freewx & am using it but am having trouble with getting the web pgae up & running to show my data.
 
 
Damian
From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Decent rain in Sydney's North Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:25:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I recorded 13mm yesterday & during last night at my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River in Sydney's Northern Suburbs.
At the moment 11:25am it is raining quiet steadily again!!!
 
 
Damian
From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Steady rain in Sydneys North Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 12:37:52 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
I've had another 8mm at my place this morning between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River.
 
It's good to see El Nino isn't taking form at the moment.
 
 
Damian
From: David.Carroll at countryenergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: Weather Data 10:00:03 May 15 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 13:01:58 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 15/05/2002 01:01:59 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This is an e.g. of weather data file for Bathurst sent via email today at 10am. from my home pc. Dave Bathurst FreeWX 10:00:03 T:+9.7C H:92% Bar:1021hPa,Steady Wgst:Calm,083 Wavg:Calm,083 DP:+8.5C WC:+10C HIx:n.a. Rain:0mm/hour Tin:+17.1C Hin:42% **************************************************** Wx info - Bathurst **************************************************** Weather Conditions at 10:00:03 May 15 Temperature: +9.7 °C Humidity: 92 % Wind Speed (gust): Calm Wind Speed (average 1 minute): Calm Wind Direction: 083° Wind Direction (average 1 minute): 083° Barometer: 1021 hPa and Steady Rainfall Rate: 0 mm/hour Dew Point: +8.5 °C Wind Chill: +10 °C Heat Index: n.a. Indoor Temperature: +17.1 °C Indoor Humidity: 42 % Wet Bulb Temperature: +9.1 °C Wet Bulb Depression: + 00.6 °C Base Height of Cu Cloud: 149 meters. (491 feet) Extreme conditions today since 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +9.7 °C at 10:00 Minimum Temperature: +7.7 °C at 09:03 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 09:23 Minimum Humidity: 92 % at 10:00 Maximum Wind (gust): 9.4 KPH, 66° at 09:32 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1021 hPa at 10:00 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1021 hPa at 10:00 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall today since 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +8.6 °C at 09:54 Minimum Dew Point: +7.7 °C at 09:03 Minimum Wind Chill: +6 °C at 09:22 Maximum Heat Index: - No Valid Data - Maximum Indoor Temperature: +17.8 °C at 09:05 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +17.1 °C at 10:00 Extreme conditions for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am Maximum Temperature: +7.7 °C at 08:59 Minimum Temperature: +1.3 °C at 04:30 Maximum Humidity: 100 % at 08:59 Minimum Humidity: 95 % at 23:20 Maximum Wind (gust): 5.8 KPH, 64° at 08:59 Maximum Barometric Pressure: 1021 hPa at 08:59 Minimum Barometric Pressure: 1019 hPa at 03:21 Maximum Rainfall Rate: nil Rainfall for the 24 hours prior to 9.00 am: 0 mm Maximum Dew Point: +7.7 °C at 08:59 Minimum Dew Point: +1.3 °C at 04:30 Minimum Wind Chill: +1 °C at 04:37 Maximum Heat Index: - No Valid Data - Maximum Indoor Temperature: +17.8 °C at 09:05 Minimum Indoor Temperature: +17.1 °C at 10:00 (See attached file: freewx.dat) ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\freewx.dat" From: "Damian" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 10:00:03 May 15 Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 13:17:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com In the 'Remote FTP Server' box am I suppose to type in the webpage I want my data to go to? 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Beware anyone who plans to drive home to the Northern Suburbs. A thick fog has just rolled into my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River. So I am assuming that the Pacific Highway & maybe the Hills Motorway are covered in fog aswell.
From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: More steady rain in Sydneys North Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 17:48:26 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Recorded another 10mm today at my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River in Sydney's Northern Suburbs!
 
It brings the toatal for the 24 hour period to 23mm.
The plants are loving it!
I also have finally got a web page with the current data from my new (& very cool) WM-918 Weather Station going onto it. I couldn't have got the webpage up & running without the help of Dave from Bathurst, you're a legend mate! Check it out for me at:
 
 
 
Damian
From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: More steady rain in Sydneys North Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 18:10:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Hi Damian,
 
Do you have rainfall data (ie 24 hour daily) going back any length of time for your location?
If so it might be useful (depending on the length of record) in a rainfall analysis I will be undertaking in the near future for northern suburbs of Sydney.
I have done one already for other places  and am looking at doing a
detailed study to determine what locations get the heaviest rainfall under certain synoptic situations.
 
Cheers
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 5:48 PM
Subject: aus-wx: More steady rain in Sydneys North

Recorded another 10mm today at my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River in Sydney's Northern Suburbs!
 
It brings the toatal for the 24 hour period to 23mm.
The plants are loving it!
I also have finally got a web page with the current data from my new (& very cool) WM-918 Weather Station going onto it. I couldn't have got the webpage up & running without the help of Dave from Bathurst, you're a legend mate! Check it out for me at:
 
 
 
Damian
From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Flow patterns Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 20:29:04 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Interesting to note that precipitation is moving from the northwest across Victoria, while the surface winds are still from E - N both east and the west of the rainband..........I think that situations like this are always really interesting, because you have to keep an eye on the flow pattern at different levels just to keep up with the changes happening that may not even show on a chart or satpic for up to 3 hours (please sir, can we have a new satellite!!!!!) Welcome to the changing seasons......aaah, weather in Victoria!!!!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 00:03:54 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thick fog in Sydney's Northern Suburbs (and south of Brisbane) From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20011031 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Thick fog in Sydney's Northern Suburbs (and south of Brisbane) Just arrived home from work and all was good until i came through the Munruben - McLean area south of Brissy, straight into a fog with maximum 70m visibility ahead, quite a shock really, it was like driving into a wall (without the bang/crash effect).

Still very thick as i type so some interesting early morning photos could be on the cards =)


From: "Damian" <damoreds at optusnet.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Thick fog in Sydney's Northern Suburbs


Beware anyone who plans to drive home to the Northern Suburbs. A thick fog has just rolled into my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River. So I am assuming that the Pacific Highway & maybe the Hills Motorway are covered in fog aswell.


Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 00:46:27 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather Subject: aus-wx: Fog Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com just a hint of fog beginning to form at clemton park +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 08:11:04 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Drought breaks in Adelaide Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi yall Prefrontal trough with particular convective amplification around the southern suburbs of Adelaide yesterday afternoon finally broke our drought. There was some thunder and pea hail down south too I believe. Unfortuately I was at work, so I hope someone got some shots! I had 9mm at St Peters, some areas south had considerably more. Now bring on the w/e with that nice cut-off developing!!! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: More steady rain in Sydneys North Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:53:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Hi Keith
 
Yes I have every mm recorded for my place since January.
It's on a web page on my website. On the main page click on 'My Other Pages'. Then click on 'My Weather Page'. From there go to the months you want by scrolling down to the bottom & click on the drop down list:
From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: New Northern Sydney weather site Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:08:52 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Thick fog in Sydney's Northern Suburbs (and south of Brisbane)
I am proud to announce my new web page that has data updated from my WM-918 Weather Station every 5 minutes:
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~damoreds/chatswoodwx.html
From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 10:00:03 May 15 Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 12:50:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You put the ftp address of the people who are hosting your web page, eg. ftp.whoever.com.au ___________________________________ Glen O'Riley goriley at tsn.cc www.mypage.tsn.cc/oriley * Computer Repairs * Computer Sales * Computer Upgrades * Computer Networking * Computer Training * Web Page Construction * TV Antenna Installation * Livestock Work -------- Storm Chaser Firefighter SES Volunteer ACREM CB Radio Monitor Rail Fan _________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:17 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Data 10:00:03 May 15 > In the 'Remote FTP Server' box am I suppose to type in the webpage I want my > data to go to? > > > Damian > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "Aussie-Weather (E-mail)" Subject: aus-wx: Illawarra Thunder Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 16:00:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Illawarra Thunder

Hiya,

SDS be gone, we've just had a pretty decent little cell move north through the Illawarra at around 3:40pm. One good CG strike within 1km, and absolutely torrential rain for around 5 minutes. Should have dropped 5mm in that time fairly easily.

Funny sought of a day so far, wouldn't be surprised if we got some more action later, as there has been very dark skies around here on and off since lunchtime. Bring it on, before we get whiplashed into winter this weekend.

Cheers
Andrew Godsman

X-Originating-IP: [202.137.90.3] From: "Leslie Baxter" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: 1st Cold Pool for the winter Season! Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 06:37:59 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2002 06:38:03.0522 (UTC) FILETIME=[3AD8FE20:01C1FCA4] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello All well for us South Eastern Aussies winter is here and so are the Cold Air Cell Storms! Had two lines of coldies go through here this afternoon, heavy rain, strong winds and some hail. Lines of Cells Moving very very fast. Will be a cold night tonight an almost frost I'd say, hmmm prob snow on the ranges. Damn And i left the digi cam at home! And more is to come with an approaching Low for the weekend! Bring it on! Cheers Les Baxter Ballarat Weather _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Storym arvo' Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 16:51:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Illawarra Thunder
I just witnessed a large lightning bolt hit the channel 7 tower near Chatswood.
Is it hailing anywhere.
Not much rain & no hail here between Chatswood West & North Ryde
X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) From: Peter Konnecke To: "aussie-weather at world . std . com" Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:10:48 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Storym arvo' Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Rain here in Beacon Hill right now. Lightning approx 10klms E and SE. Pictures will be up before 1800 EST at http://www.konnecke.com/peter/weather/storms/20020516/index.html > Damian wrote: > > Illawarra ThunderI just witnessed a large lightning bolt hit the > channel 7 tower near Chatswood. > Is it hailing anywhere. > Not much rain & no hail here between Chatswood West & North Ryde +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) From: Peter Konnecke To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:53:25 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: SYDNEY STORM - 20020516 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello all, Pictures of the storm front which passed through SE Sydney this afternoon are now available at http://www.konnecke.com/peter/weather/storms/20020516/index.html. These pictures were taken from Beacon Hill (northern Sydney) at approx 4:45pm looking to the SE and the E. Very little rain here in Beacon Hill but I did hear a radio report of a 75 year old man being struck by lightning at a golf course in Malabar at approx 4:30pm. Enjoy the pics. Regards, Peter (a very part time weather watcher) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.132.45.8] From: "Liam Domanski" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne storms (hail and funnels!) Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 18:42:18 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2002 08:42:18.0500 (UTC) FILETIME=[965C5C40:01C1FCB5] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Had a nice storm come through the eastern suburbs this arvo. Some very heavy rain followed by an even heavier hail shower. Average hail sizes ranging from a pea to 5c coin. Some of the bigger ones were about 10c coin sized. I also managed to capture 2 small funnels on my digital camera. The storm had a fair bit of lightning, with several CG's striking nearby. I'll get the pics uploaded tonight Liam _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne storms (hail and funnels!) Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 19:06:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, The eastern suburbs did all right then!! Chris Daley reported rotation of a lowering over the Croydon Hills and Debbie Parker reported hail, & thunder & lightning from Boronia. Got some nice images out to the west as the trough wandered through....... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/16_05_02.htm Don't let anyone run down our 'coldies'....where else could you see snow anvils, snow virga down to 4,000' (and then some), gustfronts, sundogs, rainbows, hail, funnels, lightning ....all in one afternoon??? - what else could you possibly need to keep you occupied during winter??!! Enjoy!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- > Hi all > > Had a nice storm come through the eastern suburbs this arvo. Some very > heavy rain followed by an even heavier hail shower. Average hail sizes > ranging from a pea to 5c coin. Some of the bigger ones were about 10c coin > sized. > > I also managed to capture 2 small funnels on my digital camera. > > The storm had a fair bit of lightning, with several CG's striking nearby. > > I'll get the pics uploaded tonight > > > Liam > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [129.94.15.121] From: "James Pickett" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYDNEY STORM - 20020516 Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:08:30 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2002 09:08:31.0138 (UTC) FILETIME=[3FB9E020:01C1FCB9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi all,

        Yes,  what a fantastic show this storm had on display, after weeks of blocking highs, no cloud or crappy cloud the sky had finally shown that it is capable of much more, well for May anyway.

        Working in Maroubra in Sydneys east at 3 pm a very weak storm was observed to my north and began to develop rapidly as it moved off the coast. It was extemely isolated and indicated a very unstable air mass with plenty of dry air aloft.  Looking to the south an even bigger cell was observed, very crisp and much more widespead.  With the air temp still around 24 degrees my hopes had not diminished as cells would probably start popping up to the north of this cell along the dry line, although looking west wasnt promising, somewhat disorganised .

            After dissapearing inside for a while a short walk outside again had revealed all.  It was an amazing sight, this is May remember !! An intense Roll cloud was making its way up the coast with a backdrop of  consistant CGs and that infamous green tinge you see with classic squall lines.  The rain came together with south-westerly squalls  acompanied by  what appeared to be a mass of autumn leaves.  Lightning remained severe all the way through and the rain got even heavier before a sudden clearing. The most spectacular was having the sun shine on what was a beautifully crisp backsheared anvil directly on top , bright orange and deep red,  'truly awsesome', as i am sure most sydneysiders will agree!!  A few more of these this winter (yeah right!) would really pass the time although i think the peg will be on the nose for  4 months as those bloody! ! westerlies come through "yuk"......

Anyway, Cheers ----and go victoria,  bring on those bass straight lows!!

James----Sydney

 

 

  Konnecke

>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: aus-wx: SYDNEY STORM - 20020516
>Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:53:25 +1000
>
>
>Hello all,
>
>Pictures of the storm front which passed through SE Sydney this afternoon are
>now available at
>http://www.konnecke.com/peter/weather/storms/20020516/index.html.
>
>These pictures were taken from Beacon Hill (northern Sydney) at approx 4:45pm
>looking to the SE and the E.
>
>Very little rain here in Beacon Hill but I did hear a radio report of a 75 year old man
>being struck by lightning at a golf course in Malabar at approx 4:30pm.
>
>Enjoy the pics.
>
>Regards,
>Peter
>(a very part time weather watcher)
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From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Cloud base question Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 20:57:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Can anyone please help here. A lot, well most, weather station software programs display the cloud base height. How is this worked out? In very simple terms thanks. Is it DP X something X something and thats our figure?
If I have a clear sky what will I see, as I haven't had a chance to look yet. If I have a fog will the base show zero?
Simple as please, for a simple bloke. Thanks.
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 21:09:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
More to this question.  I found this explanation in the help file for Free Wx..  Can this be explained. !!
 
· Base height of convective cloud
 
As a parcel of air rises (convection), it expands in the lowering air pressure, causing it to cool and reducing its ability to hold moisture. At some point the moisture in the air exceeds that which can be held, forcing the water vapor to condense, forming clouds. Given the current dew point and temperature it is possible to calculate the altitude at which this condensation occurs.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cloud base question

Can anyone please help here. A lot, well most, weather station software programs display the cloud base height. How is this worked out? In very simple terms thanks. Is it DP X something X something and thats our figure?
If I have a clear sky what will I see, as I haven't had a chance to look yet. If I have a fog will the base show zero?
Simple as please, for a simple bloke. Thanks.
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 21:27:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2002 11:28:39.0154 (UTC) FILETIME=[D34B4D20:01C1FCCC] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI Bussie.
The cloud base height is probably worked out using the dew point although I didn't now home weather stations could do this. The frogs are singing down here, regards Clyve Herbert.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cloud base question

Can anyone please help here. A lot, well most, weather station software programs display the cloud base height. How is this worked out? In very simple terms thanks. Is it DP X something X something and thats our figure?
If I have a clear sky what will I see, as I haven't had a chance to look yet. If I have a fog will the base show zero?
Simple as please, for a simple bloke. Thanks.
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Amazing Errol. Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 21:24:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2002 11:26:19.0572 (UTC) FILETIME=[8018C740:01C1FCCC] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
With all the excitement over south-eastern Aus this afternoon lets not forget former TC Errol which just keeps hanging on to life, although appears to be some sought of hybrid extra tropical low this evening northwest of Exmouth, Its being sheared by the sub tropical jet which has dragged some of the moisture all the way to the central QLD coast. Its not often you see such a system like this in May especially with such cold tops at this location it will be interesting to see if it manages to keep itself together as it approaches the coast,  another interesting feature are the very cold tops being generated above the main surface convergence region... regards Clyve H.
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Cloud base question Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 21:41:41 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
iposted this not that long ago, no one told me it was wrong so i assume it was right.
 
(temp.-dewpoint) * 400 = cloud base height in feet.
 
regards RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question

More to this question.  I found this explanation in the help file for Free Wx..  Can this be explained. !!
 
· Base height of convective cloud
 
As a parcel of air rises (convection), it expands in the lowering air pressure, causing it to cool and reducing its ability to hold moisture. At some point the moisture in the air exceeds that which can be held, forcing the water vapor to condense, forming clouds. Given the current dew point and temperature it is possible to calculate the altitude at which this condensation occurs.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cloud base question

Can anyone please help here. A lot, well most, weather station software programs display the cloud base height. How is this worked out? In very simple terms thanks. Is it DP X something X something and thats our figure?
If I have a clear sky what will I see, as I haven't had a chance to look yet. If I have a fog will the base show zero?
Simple as please, for a simple bloke. Thanks.
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 22:55:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thanks all
 
http://www.hotkey.net.au/~davidkc/bxwx1.html   this my station that currently shows CU base level at 287 feet. 

Dave
Bathurst
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:11 PM
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Cloud base question

iposted this not that long ago, no one told me it was wrong so i assume it was right.
 
(temp.-dewpoint) * 400 = cloud base height in feet.
 
regards RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question

More to this question.  I found this explanation in the help file for Free Wx..  Can this be explained. !!
 
· Base height of convective cloud
 
As a parcel of air rises (convection), it expands in the lowering air pressure, causing it to cool and reducing its ability to hold moisture. At some point the moisture in the air exceeds that which can be held, forcing the water vapor to condense, forming clouds. Given the current dew point and temperature it is possible to calculate the altitude at which this condensation occurs.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cloud base question

Can anyone please help here. A lot, well most, weather station software programs display the cloud base height. How is this worked out? In very simple terms thanks. Is it DP X something X something and thats our figure?
If I have a clear sky what will I see, as I haven't had a chance to look yet. If I have a fog will the base show zero?
Simple as please, for a simple bloke. Thanks.
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 07:35:29 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi
I suggest the cloud base height would be unreliable. It might be right some days, wrong others.
How can surface temp and dewpoint accurately give cloud base. Obviously there's some formula but
I think there are too many variables for it to be reliable. Thats my opinion. 
Steven Williams
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question

Thanks all
 
http://www.hotkey.net.au/~davidkc/bxwx1.html   this my station that currently shows CU base level at 287 feet. 

Dave
Bathurst
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:11 PM
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Cloud base question

iposted this not that long ago, no one told me it was wrong so i assume it was right.
 
(temp.-dewpoint) * 400 = cloud base height in feet.
 
regards RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question

More to this question.  I found this explanation in the help file for Free Wx..  Can this be explained. !!
 
· Base height of convective cloud
 
As a parcel of air rises (convection), it expands in the lowering air pressure, causing it to cool and reducing its ability to hold moisture. At some point the moisture in the air exceeds that which can be held, forcing the water vapor to condense, forming clouds. Given the current dew point and temperature it is possible to calculate the altitude at which this condensation occurs.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cloud base question

Can anyone please help here. A lot, well most, weather station software programs display the cloud base height. How is this worked out? In very simple terms thanks. Is it DP X something X something and thats our figure?
If I have a clear sky what will I see, as I haven't had a chance to look yet. If I have a fog will the base show zero?
Simple as please, for a simple bloke. Thanks.
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 06:53:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thanks for that. Sounds good to me. I'll give it a go. Thanks again all.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:11 PM
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Cloud base question

iposted this not that long ago, no one told me it was wrong so i assume it was right.
 
(temp.-dewpoint) * 400 = cloud base height in feet.
 
regards RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question

More to this question.  I found this explanation in the help file for Free Wx..  Can this be explained. !!
 
· Base height of convective cloud
 
As a parcel of air rises (convection), it expands in the lowering air pressure, causing it to cool and reducing its ability to hold moisture. At some point the moisture in the air exceeds that which can be held, forcing the water vapor to condense, forming clouds. Given the current dew point and temperature it is possible to calculate the altitude at which this condensation occurs.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cloud base question

Can anyone please help here. A lot, well most, weather station software programs display the cloud base height. How is this worked out? In very simple terms thanks. Is it DP X something X something and thats our figure?
If I have a clear sky what will I see, as I haven't had a chance to look yet. If I have a fog will the base show zero?
Simple as please, for a simple bloke. Thanks.
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Station ONLINE! Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 07:36:15 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey there,
 
I've got my weather station data now running up on my new home web site (very much Under Construction! )
 
The info is updated once every minute from my home weather station (WM-918) so remember to hit your refresh button every now & then ;)
 
Now all i have to do is put something else in the rest of my web....  ?

 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: SYDNEY STORM - 20020516 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 08:20:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
Just to add my comments as I happened to be in Sydney yesterday.  An awesome sight as the guster rolled over the city, with plenty of turbulence and small areas of vorticity.  Magnificent purple orange yellow toned colouring on the updrafts at the rear of the storm line in the light of the setting sun, with a very nice lightning display off the coast after sundown.  Better than anything I have seen in SEQ for at least a year, maybe two.
 
John.
From: "Max King" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Storym arvo' Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:13:04 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Illawarra Thunder

Had hail here at Wentworthville Damien, also at Northmead

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Damian
Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 4:52 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Storym arvo'

 

I just witnessed a large lightning bolt hit the channel 7 tower near Chatswood.

Is it hailing anywhere.

Not much rain & no hail here between Chatswood West & North Ryde

From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:21:00 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
I am of the opinion that it would only be close to correct when there is convection happening so Cu or Scu cloud are easier to determine height for under these conditions,St or Ns  are more likely to be a result of inversions and the formula is not likely to be correct.Same would apply to middle and high level cloud.When I have time i use that formula for cloud height when doing Wx Obs but I also use the Brindabella ranges , visible from here whose heights i know to confirm heights when cloud base is below the summits of the peaks,and before I get corrected I realise that other factors influence cloud bases in mountains.
Gavin
SSWW Canberra
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question

Hi
I suggest the cloud base height would be unreliable. It might be right some days, wrong others.
How can surface temp and dewpoint accurately give cloud base. Obviously there's some formula but
I think there are too many variables for it to be reliable. Thats my opinion. 
Steven Williams
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question

Thanks all
 
http://www.hotkey.net.au/~davidkc/bxwx1.html   this my station that currently shows CU base level at 287 feet. 

Dave
Bathurst
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:11 PM
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Cloud base question

iposted this not that long ago, no one told me it was wrong so i assume it was right.
 
(temp.-dewpoint) * 400 = cloud base height in feet.
 
regards RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question

More to this question.  I found this explanation in the help file for Free Wx..  Can this be explained. !!
 
· Base height of convective cloud
 
As a parcel of air rises (convection), it expands in the lowering air pressure, causing it to cool and reducing its ability to hold moisture. At some point the moisture in the air exceeds that which can be held, forcing the water vapor to condense, forming clouds. Given the current dew point and temperature it is possible to calculate the altitude at which this condensation occurs.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cloud base question

Can anyone please help here. A lot, well most, weather station software programs display the cloud base height. How is this worked out? In very simple terms thanks. Is it DP X something X something and thats our figure?
If I have a clear sky what will I see, as I haven't had a chance to look yet. If I have a fog will the base show zero?
Simple as please, for a simple bloke. Thanks.
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: jamestorm at ozemail.com.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: RE: aus-wx: SYDNEY STORM - 20020516 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 9:51:24 +1000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You're not supposed to say that John! SE Qld storms are the best in Australia, even in quiet times like the last couple of years! :P (Had to say that!) Seriously, the photos I have seen of the Sydney storm have been fantastic!! In fact, I drooled all over the keyboard. Not bad after "12 hours of fog" the night and morning before. Regards James http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/ PS: Hi all. > Magnificent purple orange yellow toned colouring > on the updrafts at the rear of the storm line in the light of the setting > sun, with a very nice lightning display off the coast after sundown. Better > than anything I have seen in SEQ for at least a year, maybe two. > > John. > > This message was sent through MyMail http://www.mymail.com.au
Hi all,
 
Just to add my comments as I happened to be in Sydney yesterday.  An awesome sight as the guster rolled over the city, with plenty of turbulence and small areas of vorticity.  Magnificent purple orange yellow toned colouring on the updrafts at the rear of the storm line in the light of the setting sun, with a very nice lightning display off the coast after sundown.  Better than anything I have seen in SEQ for at least a year, maybe two.
 
John.
From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Regarding WM-918 Weather Station Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 10:59:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
My weather station is not reading the wind. It's quiet windy outside & still my weather station is reading 0.0 kph. Does it need to read the wind speed for an hour before it shows the wind speed or is something wrong?
From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Weather from a different perspective! Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:14:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Long Range Weather Forecasting: from Ancient Discovery to Modern Re-discovery.
 
WeatherSage is a site dedicated to expanding and popularizing the study of Long-Range Weather Forecasting, also known as Astrometeorology. Here you will find the information and tools to further your interest in the subject.
 
 
 
 
Damian
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Cloud base question Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:12:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hear hear.  It assumes far too much to be useful IMHO, and relates only to a parcel of air at the surface with no regard for layering or conditions aloft.
 
John.
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Steven Williams
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 5:35 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question

Hi
I suggest the cloud base height would be unreliable. It might be right some days, wrong others.
How can surface temp and dewpoint accurately give cloud base. Obviously there's some formula but
I think there are too many variables for it to be reliable. Thats my opinion. 
Steven Williams
X-Sender: hdewit at mail.sa.bom.gov.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 10:57:40 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Hank de Wit Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com WeatherWise has an article on the formula for LCL at:

        http://www.weatherwise.org/qr/qry.00.hicloud.html

Some of the formula are a bit mutliated but the explanation is pretty thorough if not a bit hard going. The result is a formula

        Zlcl = 125(T - Td)      (meters and Celsius)

or

        Zlcl = 410(T - Td)      (feet and Celsius)

which is about the same as the formula already posted. While the formula is 'exact' it requires well mixed atmospheric conditions.

Cheers
Hank

At 08:57 PM 16/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
Can anyone please help here. A lot, well most, weather station software programs display the cloud base height. How is this worked out? In very simple terms thanks. Is it DP X something X something and thats our figure?
If I have a clear sky what will I see, as I haven't had a chance to look yet. If I have a fog will the base show zero?
Simple as please, for a simple bloke. Thanks.
Bussy (NE Victoria)


Hank de Wit
Regional Computer Manager
Bureau of Meteorology
South Australia
mailto:H.deWit at BoM.gov.au
ph: 08 8366 2674
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:52:27 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Hank, I was looking for this myself as I'd seen it around before. As Hank said, it does work - but the atmosphere needs to be well mixed. So if the surface DP is not representative of the PBL (planetary boundary layer) then it will be wrong. How do you know if it's representative? You probably don't unless you have seen a recent sounding in your area. But if you've just had a seabreeze go through that's bumped the DP up 10C, chances are the moist layer is fairly shallow. But if you've had NE'lies in Brisbane for 3 days, then chances are it'll be fairly representative (although not always). A lot of thunderstorm indicies have the same flaw...CAPE and LI (surface based) rely on the PBL to be well mixed so that the surface DP is a good representation of the moist layer. AC Hank de Wit wrote: > > WeatherWise has an article on the formula for LCL at: > > http://www.weatherwise.org/qr/qry.00.hicloud.html > > Some of the formula are a bit mutliated but the explanation is pretty > thorough if not a bit hard going. The result is a formula > > Zlcl = 125(T - Td) (meters and Celsius) > > or > > Zlcl = 410(T - Td) (feet and Celsius) > > which is about the same as the formula already posted. While the > formula is 'exact' it requires well mixed atmospheric conditions. > > Cheers > Hank > > At 08:57 PM 16/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > > Can anyone please help here. A lot, well most, weather station > > software programs display the cloud base height. How is this worked > > out? In very simple terms thanks. Is it DP X something X something > > and thats our figure? > > If I have a clear sky what will I see, as I haven't had a chance to > > look yet. If I have a fog will the base show zero? > > Simple as please, for a simple bloke. Thanks. > > Bussy (NE Victoria) > > Hank de Wit > Regional Computer Manager > Bureau of Meteorology > South Australia > mailto:H.deWit at BoM.gov.au > ph: 08 8366 2674 -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Snow on the Snowies?? Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 12:54:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On the snow cams it shows snow at Front Valley Duplex Perish, Blue Cow & Backcountry Guthega & at Charlottes Pass. Would these pictures be recent? I didn't think it had snowed up there yet? Damian +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Met department" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Snow on the Snowies?? Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:01:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Definetly snowing up in the mountains ATM. Check the timestamp on the images if you think they're out of date. A few reports already coming in, 5cm reported at Charlotte Pass and it looks like more at other resorts further south (into VIC). Cheers, Craig Arthur -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Damian Sent: Friday, 17 May 2002 12:55 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Snow on the Snowies?? On the snow cams it shows snow at Front Valley Duplex Perish, Blue Cow & Backcountry Guthega & at Charlottes Pass. Would these pictures be recent? I didn't think it had snowed up there yet? Damian +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Snow on the Snowies?? Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:00:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Perisher Valley reported 2.5cm snow cover at 9am, and the Charlotte Pass observer said that "5cm has fallen" but it's not clear whether that means 5cm snow depth or 5cm total snowfall. Falls Creek observer reported overnight snow (but didn't give a depth so it was possibly zero) while the AWS's on Mt Buller and Mt Hotham had temps and precip that indicated that around 10 to 15mm (melted precip) fell in the form of snow. The ground would be pretty warm, so I don't imagine any snow on the ground will last for long. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Damian > Sent: Friday, 17 May, 2002 12:55 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: Snow on the Snowies?? > > > On the snow cams it shows snow at Front Valley Duplex Perish, Blue Cow & > Backcountry Guthega & at Charlottes Pass. Would these pictures be > recent? 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I can promise you that we DID get snow last night........ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: aus-wx: Snow on the Snowies?? > On the snow cams it shows snow at Front Valley Duplex Perish, Blue Cow & > Backcountry Guthega & at Charlottes Pass. Would these pictures be recent? 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Something is wrong, it should measure as it happens, try disconnecting and reconnecting all the plugs in the hub and if that doesn't work, make sure the anemometer is earthed, there is an earth wire on the end that attaches to the mast.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:59 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Regarding WM-918 Weather Station

My weather station is not reading the wind. It's quiet windy outside & still my weather station is reading 0.0 kph. Does it need to read the wind speed for an hour before it shows the wind speed or is something wrong?
From: "Tina Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: Tina in the Snowies?? Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:45:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I am in Jindabyne. There is not snow in town, but this morning you could see it on Crackenback and the Main range..... Crackenback is clear now, but the Main range is covered by cloud. Given the obs from Thredbo AWS, I would say they have had more snow on the main range, although the resorts may be losing cover. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:26 PM Subject: aus-wx: Re: Tina in the Snowies?? > Hi Tina! > Where abouts are you? > Is there snow still lying around where you are? > > Damian > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.96.107] From: "Rune Peitersen" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYDNEY STORM - 20020516 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:45:00 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2002 03:45:00.0429 (UTC) FILETIME=[38747BD0:01C1FD55] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I got caught in a brief hailshower on windsor rd near parramatta around 2'ish, got home quick and saw the stuff developing southwest near badgerys creek, what surprised me was the way it maintained itself for so long, it was only after around 8pm that the cloud structure started to look like weakening off the coast, i thought the mammatus display was quite amazing around sunset as well, and the lightning show (with quite a few positive flash bolts) off the coast. I give Thor a 9.5/10, apparently an old bloke got hit by lightning as well, details were sketchy. >From: "James Pickett" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYDNEY STORM - 20020516 >Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:08:30 +0000 > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Thu, 16 May 2002 02:19:00 -0700 Received: from [192.74.137.10] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBEACC46C00B040043716C04A890A784E0; Thu, 16 May 2002 02:18:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon at localhost) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA16478 for aussie-weather-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 2002 05:17:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TheWorld.com (pcls1.std.com [199.172.62.103]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA15354 for ; Thu, 16 May 2002 05:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f132.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.132]) by TheWorld.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21826 for ; Thu, 16 May 2002 05:08:36 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 May 2002 02:08:31 -0700 Received: from 129.94.15.121 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 May 2002 09:08:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [129.94.15.121] From: "James Pickett" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYDNEY STORM - 20020516 Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:08:30 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2002 09:08:31.0138 (UTC) FILETIME=[3FB9E020:01C1FCB9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Precedence: list Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi all,

        Yes,  what a fantastic show this storm had on display, after weeks of blocking highs, no cloud or crappy cloud the sky had finally shown that it is capable of much more, well for May anyway.

        Working in Maroubra in Sydneys east at 3 pm a very weak storm was observed to my north and began to develop rapidly as it moved off the coast. It was extemely isolated and indicated a very unstable air mass with plenty of dry air aloft.  Looking to the south an even bigger cell was observed, very crisp and much more widespead.  With the air temp still around 24 degrees my hopes had not diminished as cells would probably start popping up to the north of this cell along the dry line, although looking west wasnt promising, somewhat disorganised .

            After dissapearing inside for a while a short walk outside again had revealed all.  It was an amazing sight, this is May remember !! An intense Roll cloud was making its way up the coast with a backdrop of  consistant CGs and that infamous green tinge you see with classic squall lines.  The rain came together with south-westerly squalls  acompanied by  what appeared to be a mass of autumn leaves.  Lightning remained severe all the way through and the rain got even heavier before a sudden clearing. The most spectacular was having the sun shine on what was a beautifully crisp backsheared anvil directly on top , bright orange and deep red,  'truly awsesome', as i am sure most sydneysiders will agree!!  A few more of these this winter (yeah right!) would really pass the time although i think the peg will be on the nose for  4 months as those bloody! ! ! ! westerlies come through "yuk"......

Anyway, Cheers ----and go victoria,  bring on those bass straight lows!!

James----Sydney

 

 

  Konnecke

>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: aus-wx: SYDNEY STORM - 20020516
>Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:53:25 +1000
>
>
>Hello all,
>
>Pictures of the storm front which passed through SE Sydney this afternoon are
>now available at
>http://www.konnecke.com/peter/weather/storms/20020516/index.html.
>
>These pictures were taken from Beacon Hill (northern Sydney) at approx 4:45pm
>looking to the SE and the E.
>
>Very little rain here in Beacon Hill but I did hear a radio report of a 75 year old man
>being struck by lightning at a golf course in Malabar at approx 4:30pm.
>
>Enjoy the pics.
>
>Regards,
>Peter
>(a very part time weather watcher)
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From: "Damian" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: Tina in the Snowies?? Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 14:06:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com How High is Jindabyne? Did it snow there last night? Does it snow there very often? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Regarding WM-918 Weather Station Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 14:10:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thanks Glen
 
The wind direction is working fine & the data is coming in for that, it's just the wind speed. Do you still think the earthing could stop the wind speed data coming in?
From: Tim Eckert To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [203.220.183.200] Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 15:35:32 +1000 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne storms (hail and funnels!) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Temperature hasn't gone past 11C here today. Not my kind of weather - too cold for me. Drizzly showers have persisted this arvo too. I have recorded 9mm in the last 48 hours. I have uploaded my photos from yesterday. They can be found here: http://snow.prohosting.com/teckert/Coldies/ I leave for Adelaide shortly for an interesting weekend weather-wise. I will be stuck at a Conference at McLaren Vale with no access to a computer so the sky will be my guide. I'll have my camera with so I just hope I can get outside to capture some nice coldies and hail. Tim Eckert Coleraine SW Victoria Original message from: "Jane ONeill" > >Evening all, > >The eastern suburbs did all right then!! Chris Daley reported rotation >of a lowering over the Croydon Hills and Debbie Parker reported hail, & >thunder & lightning from Boronia. > >Got some nice images out to the west as the trough wandered >through....... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/16_05_02.htm > >Don't let anyone run down our 'coldies'....where else could you see snow >anvils, snow virga down to 4,000' (and then some), gustfronts, sundogs, >rainbows, hail, funnels, lightning ....all in one afternoon??? - what >else could you possibly need to keep you occupied during winter??!! > >Enjoy!! > >Jane > >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >Melbourne Storm Chasers >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >ASWA - Victoria >http://www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------- > > >> Hi all >> >> Had a nice storm come through the eastern suburbs this arvo. Some >very >> heavy rain followed by an even heavier hail shower. Average hail >sizes >> ranging from a pea to 5c coin. Some of the bigger ones were about 10c >coin >> sized. >> >> I also managed to capture 2 small funnels on my digital camera. >> >> The storm had a fair bit of lightning, with several CG's striking >nearby. >> >> I'll get the pics uploaded tonight >> >> >> Liam >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com >> >> >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- >-- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - >. > __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aus Wx" Subject: aus-wx: TC terminolgy Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 16:20:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Can someone tell me what a CDO is??? (see last sentence of warning from JTWC) http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/jtwc.html TROPICAL STORM (TS) 05W (HAGIBIS), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 230 NM WEST OF GUAM, HAS TRACKED WEST NORTHWESTWARD AT 12 KNOTS OVER THE PAST 06 HOURS. THE WARNING POSITION IS BASED ON 162330Z5 VISIBLE AND ENHANCED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY. THE WARNING INTENSITY IS BASED ON SATELLITE CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATES OF 45 AND 55 KNOTS. A 162128Z0 MICROWAVE PASS DEPICTS A BANDING EYE FEATURE. EARLY VISIBLE IMAGERY DEPICTS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN CENTRAL CONVECTION RESULTING IN A LARGE IRREGULAR CDO. Thanks, Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.220.168.104] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 16:47:20 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2002 06:47:20.0558 (UTC) FILETIME=[B147B0E0:01C1FD6E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Hank et al... You've saved me a bit of digging 'cos I got a different formula when I just used discrete parcel analysis... A non-saturated parcel cools at the DALR (roughly 1 degree C/100 metres), so when it reaches the LCL it will have risen (Tsurface - Tdewpoint x 100 metres) I thought... Clearly mixing and entrainment complicate the theory! Thanks, Kevin from Wycheproof. >From: Hank de Wit >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question >Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 10:57:40 +0930 > >WeatherWise has an article on the formula for LCL at: > > http://www.weatherwise.org/qr/qry.00.hicloud.html > >Some of the formula are a bit mutliated but the explanation is pretty >thorough if not a bit hard going. The result is a formula > > Zlcl = 125(T - Td) (meters and Celsius) > >or > > Zlcl = 410(T - Td) (feet and Celsius) > >which is about the same as the formula already posted. While the formula is >'exact' it requires well mixed atmospheric conditions. > >Cheers >Hank > >At 08:57 PM 16/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >>Can anyone please help here. A lot, well most, weather station software >>programs display the cloud base height. How is this worked out? In very >>simple terms thanks. Is it DP X something X something and thats our >>figure? >>If I have a clear sky what will I see, as I haven't had a chance to look >>yet. If I have a fog will the base show zero? >>Simple as please, for a simple bloke. Thanks. >>Bussy (NE Victoria) > > >Hank de Wit >Regional Computer Manager >Bureau of Meteorology >South Australia >mailto:H.deWit at BoM.gov.au >ph: 08 8366 2674 _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 15:04:16 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC terminolgy X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I know what it means but I'm not certain my interpretation of the letters is necessarily correct. I think it stands for "Central Dense Overcast" - that intense white patch you see on the satpics near the centre of a TC where the cloudtops are very cold. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aus Wx" Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 16:20:02 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: TC terminolgy > Can someone tell me what a CDO is??? (see last sentence of warning from > JTWC) > http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/jtwc.html > > TROPICAL STORM (TS) 05W (HAGIBIS), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 230 NM WEST OF > GUAM, HAS TRACKED WEST NORTHWESTWARD AT 12 KNOTS OVER THE PAST 06 > HOURS. THE > WARNING POSITION IS BASED ON 162330Z5 VISIBLE AND ENHANCED INFRARED > SATELLITE IMAGERY. THE WARNING INTENSITY IS BASED ON SATELLITE CURRENT > INTENSITY ESTIMATES OF 45 AND 55 KNOTS. A 162128Z0 MICROWAVE PASS > DEPICTS A > BANDING EYE FEATURE. EARLY VISIBLE IMAGERY DEPICTS A SIGNIFICANT > INCREASE IN > CENTRAL CONVECTION RESULTING IN A LARGE IRREGULAR CDO. > > Thanks, > > Jane > --------------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > --------------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Regarding WM-918 Weather Station Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:15:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Is possible, by memory there are 4-6 wires from the anemometer, so just hcek the metal connectors in the plug haven't corroded. I suppose the next step afterwards would be to retighten the cups with a small phillips screw driver, then check your earth wire. If that doesn't solve the problem then either there is a broken wire somewhere or the unit is faulty and needs to be replaced/repaired.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Regarding WM-918 Weather Station

Thanks Glen
 
The wind direction is working fine & the data is coming in for that, it's just the wind speed. Do you still think the earthing could stop the wind speed data coming in?
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Melbourne storms (hail and funnels!) Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:20:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, Seems to be some confusion here over use of the term 'coldies', in that Tim is using it to refer to cold air cb's, whereas I have previously heard it used (and used it myself) to describe short lived weak tornadoes associated with cold air cb's (typically frontal), which I believe are a form of gustnado or landspout (yet to be proven). These have been described in various ways in the media, including our favourite "mini-tornado" or the rather delightful "cock-eyed bob" (W.A.). So, just seeking some clarification over use of the word here. John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tim Eckert Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 3:36 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne storms (hail and funnels!) Hi all. Temperature hasn't gone past 11C here today. Not my kind of weather - too cold for me. Drizzly showers have persisted this arvo too. I have recorded 9mm in the last 48 hours. I have uploaded my photos from yesterday. They can be found here: http://snow.prohosting.com/teckert/Coldies/ I leave for Adelaide shortly for an interesting weekend weather-wise. I will be stuck at a Conference at McLaren Vale with no access to a computer so the sky will be my guide. I'll have my camera with so I just hope I can get outside to capture some nice coldies and hail. Tim Eckert Coleraine SW Victoria +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: hdewit at mail.sa.bom.gov.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 16:59:34 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Hank de Wit Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Kevin, I think the error in your logic was not taking into account the parcel's variation of dewpoint with height. I don't think mixing/entrainment is involved at all. Let's not bother about the maths and think in terms of SkewT diagrams - I'm not so good with maths. Graphically, on a SkewT diagram the lines of constant mixing ratio slope less than the temperature lines with decreasing pressure. A lifted parcel conserves mixing ratio, so, as the temperature decreases (at the dry adiabatic lapse rate), so does the dew point. The LCL would occur higher up than on your estimate because Td(at LCL) is less than Td(at surface). This is the same as saying that Td is not conserved when lifting a parcel of air. using rough maths, if r = mixing ratio p = pressure e = vapor pressure Td = dewpoint r = e/(p - e) = constant (lifted parcel conserves moisture) ~ e/p e = f(Td) therefore r ~ f(Td)/p Td ~ inv_f(r * p) Td ~ inv_f(constant * p) so dewpoint must vary with pressure. Cheers Hank At 04:47 PM 17/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Hank et al... > >You've saved me a bit of digging 'cos I got a different formula when I >just used discrete parcel analysis... > >A non-saturated parcel cools at the DALR (roughly 1 degree C/100 metres), >so when it reaches the LCL it will have risen (Tsurface - Tdewpoint x 100 >metres) I thought... > >Clearly mixing and entrainment complicate the theory! >Thanks, >Kevin from Wycheproof. > > >>From: Hank de Wit >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question >>Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 10:57:40 +0930 >> >>WeatherWise has an article on the formula for LCL at: >> >> http://www.weatherwise.org/qr/qry.00.hicloud.html >> >>Some of the formula are a bit mutliated but the explanation is pretty >>thorough if not a bit hard going. The result is a formula >> >> Zlcl = 125(T - Td) (meters and Celsius) >> >>or >> >> Zlcl = 410(T - Td) (feet and Celsius) >> >>which is about the same as the formula already posted. While the formula is >>'exact' it requires well mixed atmospheric conditions. >> >>Cheers >>Hank >> >>At 08:57 PM 16/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >>>Can anyone please help here. A lot, well most, weather station software >>>programs display the cloud base height. How is this worked out? In very >>>simple terms thanks. Is it DP X something X something and thats our figure? >>>If I have a clear sky what will I see, as I haven't had a chance to look >>>yet. If I have a fog will the base show zero? >>>Simple as please, for a simple bloke. Thanks. >>>Bussy (NE Victoria) >> >> >>Hank de Wit >>Regional Computer Manager >>Bureau of Meteorology >>South Australia >>mailto:H.deWit at BoM.gov.au >>ph: 08 8366 2674 > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Hank de Wit Regional Computer Manager Bureau of Meteorology South Australia mailto:H.deWit at BoM.gov.au ph: 08 8366 2674 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:11:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I tried that but it seemed to give a way wrong figure I thought. As an example I just checked my figures.
(temp - dp) X 400
(11.5 - 2.8) = 8.7
8.7 X 400 = 3480
My software shows 4152 feet
This morning it was way larger than that. Any help?
I like this sort of stuff and like to get to the bottom of it. What is "that" formula???????
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Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:11 PM
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Cloud base question

iposted this not that long ago, no one told me it was wrong so i assume it was right.
 
(temp.-dewpoint) * 400 = cloud base height in feet.
 
regards RM
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question

More to this question.  I found this explanation in the help file for Free Wx..  Can this be explained. !!
 
· Base height of convective cloud
 
As a parcel of air rises (convection), it expands in the lowering air pressure, causing it to cool and reducing its ability to hold moisture. At some point the moisture in the air exceeds that which can be held, forcing the water vapor to condense, forming clouds. Given the current dew point and temperature it is possible to calculate the altitude at which this condensation occurs.
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From: Bussy
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cloud base question

Can anyone please help here. A lot, well most, weather station software programs display the cloud base height. How is this worked out? In very simple terms thanks. Is it DP X something X something and thats our figure?
If I have a clear sky what will I see, as I haven't had a chance to look yet. If I have a fog will the base show zero?
Simple as please, for a simple bloke. Thanks.
Bussy (NE Victoria)
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:05:03 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne storms (hail and funnels!) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 03:35 PM 17/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hi all. Temperature hasn't gone past 11C here today. Not my kind of >weather - too cold for me. Drizzly showers have persisted this arvo >too. I have recorded 9mm in the last 48 hours. Geez, some ppl get lucky. All I ever saw yesterday was a little rain in the morning and some interesting cloud formations on the way home (wish I had a camera with me). :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Melbourne storms (hail and funnels!) Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:08:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com RE: aus-wx: Melbourne storms (hail and funnels!)

John,

Without any real authority, other than hearing the word used very often during the colder months through this list, I now associate 'coldie' with cold air cb's. Any funnels that may pop their tails out of a coldie are usually called the same as for funnels out of warm air cb's, eg weak funnel, tornado, spin up etc.

Cheers
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: John Woodbridge [mailto:jrw at pixelcom.net]
Sent: Friday, 17 May 2002 5:20 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Melbourne storms (hail and funnels!)


Hi All,

Seems to be some confusion here over use of the term 'coldies', in that Tim
is using it to refer to cold air cb's, whereas I have previously heard it
used (and used it myself) to describe short lived weak tornadoes associated
with cold air cb's (typically frontal), which I believe are a form of
gustnado or landspout (yet to be proven).  These have been described in
various ways in the media, including our favourite "mini-tornado" or the
rather delightful "cock-eyed bob" (W.A.).

So, just seeking some clarification over use of the word here.

John.
>snip
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Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 3:36 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne storms (hail and funnels!)


Hi all. Temperature hasn't gone past 11C here today. Not my kind of
weather - too cold for me. Drizzly showers have persisted this arvo
too. I have recorded 9mm in the last 48 hours.

I have uploaded my photos from yesterday. They can be found here:
http://snow.prohosting.com/teckert/Coldies/

I leave for Adelaide shortly for an interesting weekend weather-wise.
I will be stuck at a Conference at McLaren Vale with no access to a
computer so the sky will be my guide. I'll have my camera with so I
just hope I can get outside to capture some nice coldies and hail.

Tim Eckert
Coleraine
SW Victoria

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From: David.Carroll at countryenergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: reports sleet Mt Lambie/Oberon To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:15:48 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 17/05/2002 06:15:51 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI all. Had reports of light sleet /snow Oberon , Mt Lambie areas. Also called a friend in oberon saying very cold/freezing out there. Currently 5 deg in Bathurst, has dropped real quick in last 30 min. Keep an eye on http://www.hotkey.net.au/~davidkc/bxwx.html Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: hdewit at mail.sa.bom.gov.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:59:12 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Hank de Wit Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Bussy,

The formula IS

        Zlcl = 410*(T-Td)

So either your software is wrong or it's adding your station height (or something else) to the answer. The difference is 585ft. Is that your altitude above sea level? If so then your software is giving cloud base above sea level not station level.

Cheers
Hank

At 06:11 PM 17/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:
I tried that but it seemed to give a way wrong figure I thought. As an example I just checked my figures.
(temp - dp) X 400
(11.5 - 2.8) = 8.7
8.7 X 400 = 3480
My software shows 4152 feet
This morning it was way larger than that. Any help?
I like this sort of stuff and like to get to the bottom of it. What is "that" formula???????
----- Original Message -----
From: richard modistach
To: weather mailing list
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:11 PM
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Cloud base question

iposted this not that long ago, no one told me it was wrong so i assume it was right.
 
(temp.-dewpoint) * 400 = cloud base height in feet.
 
regards RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: David Carroll
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cloud base question

More to this question.  I found this explanation in the help file for Free Wx..  Can this be explained. !!
 
· Base height of convective cloud
 
As a parcel of air rises (convection), it expands in the lowering air pressure, causing it to cool and reducing its ability to hold moisture. At some point the moisture in the air exceeds that which can be held, forcing the water vapor to condense, forming clouds. Given the current dew point and temperature it is possible to calculate the altitude at which this condensation occurs.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
To: aussie-weather
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Cloud base question

Can anyone please help here. A lot, well most, weather station software programs display the cloud base height. How is this worked out? In very simple terms thanks. Is it DP X something X something and thats our figure?
If I have a clear sky what will I see, as I haven't had a chance to look yet. If I have a fog will the base show zero?
Simple as please, for a simple bloke. Thanks.
Bussy (NE Victoria)


Hank de Wit
Regional Computer Manager
Bureau of Meteorology
South Australia
mailto:H.deWit at BoM.gov.au
ph: 08 8366 2674
From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC terminolgy Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:16:09 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2002 08:16:07.0027 (UTC) FILETIME=[181A5C30:01C1FD7B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jane Central Dense Overcast = CDO Oh by the way "Hagibis", what a wonderful name Regards Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aus Wx" Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 4:20 PM Subject: aus-wx: TC terminolgy > Can someone tell me what a CDO is??? (see last sentence of warning from > JTWC) > http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/jtwc.html > > TROPICAL STORM (TS) 05W (HAGIBIS), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 230 NM WEST OF > GUAM, HAS TRACKED WEST NORTHWESTWARD AT 12 KNOTS OVER THE PAST 06 HOURS. THE > WARNING POSITION IS BASED ON 162330Z5 VISIBLE AND ENHANCED INFRARED > SATELLITE IMAGERY. THE WARNING INTENSITY IS BASED ON SATELLITE CURRENT > INTENSITY ESTIMATES OF 45 AND 55 KNOTS. A 162128Z0 MICROWAVE PASS DEPICTS A > BANDING EYE FEATURE. EARLY VISIBLE IMAGERY DEPICTS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN > CENTRAL CONVECTION RESULTING IN A LARGE IRREGULAR CDO. > > Thanks, > > Jane > --------------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > --------------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: reports sleet Mt Lambie/Oberon Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 19:08:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Your thermometer is actually reading 4.3 Dave! No precipitation is showing up on the radars for the Oberon / Mt Lambie areas?? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:15 PM Subject: aus-wx: reports sleet Mt Lambie/Oberon > HI all. > > Had reports of light sleet /snow Oberon , Mt Lambie areas. Also called a > friend in oberon saying very cold/freezing out there. > > Currently 5 deg in Bathurst, has dropped real quick in last 30 min. > > Keep an eye on http://www.hotkey.net.au/~davidkc/bxwx.html > > Dave > > > > > ############################################################################ ######### > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the > sender. 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Worth a look!!!! http://www.smh.com.au/photography/regular/2002/05/17/index.html Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Max King" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: reports sleet Mt Lambie/Oberon Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 19:42:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Probably to low down and light for the radar to pick up Damien I just hope it isn't to heavy, I have to drive out to Bathurst early in the morning!!!!!! Don't wanna get trapped :) Max -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Damian Sent: Friday, 17 May 2002 7:09 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: reports sleet Mt Lambie/Oberon Your thermometer is actually reading 4.3 Dave! No precipitation is showing up on the radars for the Oberon / Mt Lambie areas?? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:15 PM Subject: aus-wx: reports sleet Mt Lambie/Oberon > HI all. > > Had reports of light sleet /snow Oberon , Mt Lambie areas. 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There were 2 funnels I saw as well, but sort of missed most of the intensity before I could take the photos. They both only lasted for about 5-10 seconds. Thanks to Jane for her great work in getting these up! GO VICTORIA!!!!!!!! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: HELLO! 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Hello Everyone & Greetings from the USA:
        I've just subscribed to your list and find it very fascinating. I live in Mena, (Polk County) Arkansas; Last year our avg. high was 70F and our avg. low was 49F, avg. rain is 54"; (elev. 1177 FT). I was wondering what town in Australia would be comparable to this? Today, May 17, here, a late season Canadian cold front came through with .90IN rain and temps falling through the mid-60sF. I've often wondered what it would be like in your country to be warm in December and cold in July! I often visit the Sig Wx Summary and the Daily Extremes sites.
                                                                               Yours,
                                                                           David J. Powell
                                                                           dajapo at voltage.net
 
 
 
 
From: "Zac" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: HELLO! Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 07:55:00 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi Dave and welcome ,

 

The towns nearest that elevation in NSW is either Blackheath or Mt Victoria, which are approximately 75, and 78 miles West of Sydney respectively, in the Blue Mountains.

 

Max.

 

 

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Sent:
Saturday, 18 May 2002 6:34 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: HELLO!

 

Hello Everyone & Greetings from the USA:

        I've just subscribed to your list and find it very fascinating. I live in Mena, (Polk County) Arkansas; Last year our avg. high was 70F and our avg. low was 49F, avg. rain is 54"; (elev. 1177 FT). I was wondering what town in Australia would be comparable to this? Today, May 17, here, a late season Canadian cold front came through with .90IN rain and temps falling through the mid-60sF. I've often wondered what it would be like in your country to be warm in December and cold in July! I often visit the Sig Wx Summary and the Daily Extremes sites.

                                                                               Yours,

                                                                           David J. Powell

                                                                           dajapo at voltage.net

 

 

 

 

From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Weekend weather Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 08:05:50 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Monring all, Great images of what's to come for southeast Australia this weekend, courtesy of the CSIRO South Australia & Victoria www.stormchasers.au.com/May02/05171951csirosa.gif a broader image of southeastern Australia to 65degS www.stormchasers.au.com/May02/05171951csiroaus.gif Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 08:34:53 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney storm Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:12 PM 17/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Not sure how long these will be available.....images of yesterday's >Sydney storm!! > >Worth a look!!!! You're not wrong there! :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au (Unverified) Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 08:43:47 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weekend weather - Adelaide Sat 8.40am CST Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Large area of prefrontal activity currently in the gulf about 60km SW of Adelaide. Plently of pink on the radar, some activity on the lightning tracker, some static on the radio. Main action hopefully with the frontal passage after mid day. I'll be chasing. Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Regarding WM-918 Weather Station Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 09:43:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Used to have a WM918. It should read in real time. i.e. what's happening will be displayed. Sounds silly but have you checked to see nothing has come adrift or the cups aren't obstructed.
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:59 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Regarding WM-918 Weather Station

My weather station is not reading the wind. It's quiet windy outside & still my weather station is reading 0.0 kph. Does it need to read the wind speed for an hour before it shows the wind speed or is something wrong?
From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Cold Night In Sydney! Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:57:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 4.3 degrees recorded last night at my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River. It was only 10.5 degrees this morning at 8:40 am!. What did other Sydneysiders record? Damian +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 11:00:27 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: aus-wx: US storm chase Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com US storm chase update from Jimmy and Matt >X-Originating-IP: [170.76.19.10] >From: "Jimmy Deguara" >To: bustchase at yahoo.com >Bcc: >Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 05:55:15 +1000 >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2002 19:55:15.0942 (UTC) >FILETIME=[C39AD060:01C1FDDC] > >Hello, > >Just a report back that last night 16th May was an incredible night. We >sat at Alva - northern Oklahoma in the library and wondered whether we >should head east or west. We decided to head west into the Panhandle as >far as we could go. When the gigantic anvils came into view, we headed >south. I didn't think we would make it but just north of Canadian, we >stopped for a view. Inflow was nothing short of excellent and persistent. >Then out of almost nothing on the edge of the anvil of the major storm >still to our west, a storm developed rapidly! It was not that big but >seemed to offer some cloud to cloud lightning activity. The back end also >was still exploding. Then the front end of the storm showed a nice shelf >cloud "cow-catcher" appearance. So we headed further south and indead >passed through Canadian and got an LP supercell. Well when this became >less impressive, we noted a long inflow band to the storm behind and a >lowering. This seems consistent with the tornado "report" further west >near Borger but we have to check this out. Oh and by the way, another two >4.5 inch hail reports thrown in from the town of Miami in Texas and Texoma >in Oklahoma. We then headed further south and waited for this next storm >to approach. Well the lightning increased (another 3 second bolt!!!) out >of the anvil. This storm was approaching and when we headed further south >we met up with the Ball State Chaser Team and another popular chase group. >Here we watched the constant lightning activity of a probable HP supercell >(well this was the one that must have dumped the giant hail). Finally we >made it to wheeler and was going to head east when alas we saw a hotel >(ummm ~10:30pm). Booking in quickly, we headed out again and followed the >storm as it headed east. The bottom end of the storm headed towards us as >we headed back to safety towards Wheeler. Some 1cm hail at 11:30pm and >strong gusts. Then just more of an impressive lightning show after that. >We got to bed at 1:30pm. Another storm awoke us in the early hours of the >morning - Matt was wondering if the hotel was strong enough:) All in all - >an impressive evening night chase. > >This followed another storm in southern Kansas the night before. This had >some vorticity dust whirls as inflow met the outflow. > >Will catch you later. > >Jimmy Deguara > ================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:51:44 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weekend weather - Adelaide Sat 10.50am CST Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hmmmm Perhaps just a prefrontal trough - but I'd swear the front came through about 10.00am CST. Don't have a barometer, but the wind has dropped right off, the wind has swung WNW and the rain (I had 20mm! - excellent) has pretty much stopped. Went outside to see some excellent turbulent scud action, both horizontal and vertical motion, moving through at a great rate - the sky is lighter now, so perhaps that was the front moving through earlier than expected. No thunder here at St Peters. Ho hum. A bit of a fizzer although I'm glad the drought is well and truly broken. Lets hope for some cold air action after the clear slot passes. Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold Night In Sydney! Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 12:05:38 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Winter has struck with a vengeance. 7 degrees at Seven Hills but minus 0.5 on the ground. Frosts next week? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: aus-wx: Cold Night In Sydney! > 4.3 degrees recorded last night at my place between Chatswood West & North > Ryde on the Lane Cove River. It was only 10.5 degrees this morning at 8:40 > am!. > What did other Sydneysiders record? > > > Damian > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.134.133.46] From: "Ben Jerrems" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: New snaps! Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 12:09:37 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2002 02:09:37.0599 (UTC) FILETIME=[0FCBACF0:01C1FE11] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all, Its been some time since i have written to this site, but iam back and i have a few snaps to share with all. My temp site is http://communities.ninemsn.com.au/beanzvision
More photos will be added soon and anyone is welcome to post their own!
 
Enjoy!
Ben/Beanzvision


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From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: THANKS! Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 21:21:38 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thanks for your answers. Yes, the avg. high for Mena in 2001 was 70F and avg. low was 49F. Yearly avg. rain is just over 54IN. The high last year was 99F on July 12 & 22, the low was 5F on January 3; Rain for year 69.69IN. TRACE of snow (flurries on 4 days). Wx conditions have to be just right for Mena to get SNOW., some years we get a few inches, other years we get nothing. I love SNOW, so when we get any, I go nuts! On Christmas Eve of 1975 we got 12IN in one day! The good, heavy wet stuff that you can do lots with! We have a better chance of an icestorm than significant SNOW. Because of the elev., it usually has to be a prolonged period of dry and hot weather for the highs to exceed 100F, unless a vigorous Arctic cold front hits, we usually don't get below zeroF. I believe the all-time Mena high is 111F in 1936, the all-time low is -15F in 1896. I believe the mountains that surround Mena (1700FT-2681FT) help our rain total and may possibly be a shield against tornadoes. I know of only 2 twisters to hit Mena since 1896.
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: ICE Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 21:43:59 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
G'DAY from USA:
         I was wondering if Australia experiences ice storms? Arkansas experienced back-to-back ice storms in December (13th & 25th) 2000. The damage total for our state was $547 million, which was the costliest natural disaster in Ark. history. Mena was without electricity for 4 days.(I will NEVER take elec. for granted again). The ice was over 3/4 IN thick on most everything. A multitude of trees (inc. hardwoods) came down. Tree farms were especially hard hit. Aside from Hwy. Dept. trucks that spray salt and cinders, Mena doesn't have any equip. to deal with ice or major snowfall. Thankfully, no pine trees hit the house, but they did take out the clothesline. I believe there were over 1100 truckloads of debris removed from the city. Our population is 6,500 or so. Fortunately, storms such as this occur VERY rarely. It was strange to see heavy rain and 33F; so I knew it was just a matter of time. See "ya'll" later. Have a great weekend!
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO! Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 14:11:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
On the data many towns slightly inland ( <> 20 miles ) from the coast in New South Wales or Victoria would be close, but that is where the comparison would end. Your town would have achieved these temps with a much larger ( and I mean much larger ) range of temperature. The Australian equivilant would achieve it through rather more consistency and less range. For example my home town's annual maximum is almost similar at  21C -22C ( 68F-72F ), yet it never goes below freezing and the average winters day is still in the low 60F's. It has never snowed either.
 
Regards
Michael
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:33 AM
Subject: aus-wx: HELLO!

Hello Everyone & Greetings from the USA:
        I've just subscribed to your list and find it very fascinating. I live in Mena, (Polk County) Arkansas; Last year our avg. high was 70F and our avg. low was 49F, avg. rain is 54"; (elev. 1177 FT). I was wondering what town in Australia would be comparable to this? Today, May 17, here, a late season Canadian cold front came through with .90IN rain and temps falling through the mid-60sF. I've often wondered what it would be like in your country to be warm in December and cold in July! I often visit the Sig Wx Summary and the Daily Extremes sites.
                                                                               Yours,
                                                                           David J. Powell
                                                                           dajapo at voltage.net
 
 
 
 
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: A QUESTION Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 23:20:08 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Again:
         I was wondering if you could help me with a question. Occasionally I will call the AWS at Mena airport (Intermountain Regional Airport) to get the current readings; sometimes the report will end with the computer-generated voice saying: "Density Altitude 2300" (or some other number. I'm not too keen on aircraft terms, just what is Density Altitude?
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ICE Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 14:18:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Not even close Dave, the southern ocean that stands between us and Antartica simply temperates any strong cold fronts too much.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 12:43 PM
Subject: aus-wx: ICE

G'DAY from USA:
         I was wondering if Australia experiences ice storms? Arkansas experienced back-to-back ice storms in December (13th & 25th) 2000. The damage total for our state was $547 million, which was the costliest natural disaster in Ark. history. Mena was without electricity for 4 days.(I will NEVER take elec. for granted again). The ice was over 3/4 IN thick on most everything. A multitude of trees (inc. hardwoods) came down. Tree farms were especially hard hit. Aside from Hwy. Dept. trucks that spray salt and cinders, Mena doesn't have any equip. to deal with ice or major snowfall. Thankfully, no pine trees hit the house, but they did take out the clothesline. I believe there were over 1100 truckloads of debris removed from the city. Our population is 6,500 or so. Fortunately, storms such as this occur VERY rarely. It was strange to see heavy rain and 33F; so I knew it was just a matter of time. See "ya'll" later. Have a great weekend!
X-Originating-IP: [203.166.96.235] From: "jasmine withers" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: ICE Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 14:28:42 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2002 04:28:42.0955 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E03F1B0:01C1FE24] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

i dont mean to be rude but can u plz stop sending me emails on the weather im not intreasted anymore.

    bye

>From: "Michael Thompson"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: ICE
>Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 14:18:32 +1000
>
>Not even close Dave, the southern ocean that stands between us and Antartica simply temperates any strong cold fronts too much.
>
>Michael
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: arky dave
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 12:43 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: ICE
>
>
> G'DAY from USA:
> I was wondering if Australia experiences ice storms? Arkansas experienced back-to-back ice storms in December (13th & 25th) 2000. The damage total for our state was $547 million, which was the costliest natural disaster in Ark. history. Mena was without electricity for 4 days.(I will NEVER take elec. for granted again). The ice was over 3/4 IN thick on most everything. A multitude of trees (inc. hardwoods) came down. Tree farms were especially hard hit. Aside from Hwy. Dept. trucks that spray salt and cinders, Mena doesn't have any equip. to deal with ice or major snowfall. Thankfully, no pine trees hit the house, but they did take out the clothesline. I believe there were over 1100 truckloads of debris removed from the city. Our population is 6,500 or so. Fortunately, storms such as this occur VERY rarely. It was strange to see heavy rain and 33F; so I knew it was just a matter of time. See "ya'll" later. Have a great weekend!


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From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Adelaide tornado? Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 15:16:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A tornado in Adelaide this morning? http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,4342454%255E1702,00.html Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Tichborne" To: Subject: aus-wx: Hypothetical geography - affects on weather Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 17:36:24 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Back to this list after looking through the Aussie-wether list archives for late May 2000 - what SE Aus looks likely to get tomorrow seems like nothing compared to the polar outbreak of 2 years ago. Anyway, after hearing about all the stories of heavy rain and snow in the Adelaide Hills/ Flinders Ranges, I wondering how the weather would be affected if those mountains reached heights of 1300 - 1700 metres, instead of the heights they are now. No doubt snow would be more common. (every year, though not viable for a ski industry) Rainfall events, I guess would be more intense, as would the rainshadow on the other side of the mountains. (as if that area wasn't dry enough anyway) Ben Christchurch (bleak and drizzly in a northeasterly flow) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 15:30:56 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: ICE Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 02:28 PM 18/05/2002 +1000, you wrote:

i dont mean to be rude but can u plz stop sending me emails on the weather im not intreasted anymore.

That's easily arranged, the unsubscribe instructions are on the bottom of each and every message on the list.  I'll quote them again, for your reference..

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Hope that helps.

73 de Tony, VK3JED
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Matt Smith Jane ONeill wrote: > A tornado in Adelaide this morning? > > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,4342454%255E1702,00.html > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Duncan & Mandy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide tornado? Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 15:46:04 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I used to live in Erindale for 25 years, the suburb next to Wattle Park. Gully winds were the main cause of damage to houses in the area. But never a tornado! And during the day! What a sight that would've been! Does any of the S.A. guys know if the flash flooding refers to Stonyfell or Second Creeks? Cheers, Duncan Treloar Alice Springs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Smith" To: Sent: Friday, 17 May 2002 3:06 pm Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide tornado? > Looks like it Jane! > > BTW I saw a few minutes ago, for 7.30pm on Prime tomorrow night, world around > us "Thunderstorms". > > Showed some great time lapse footage and some nice lightning in the > advertisment for the show, it looked really good. Keep an eye out, dont know > if its on in sydney or not. > > Matt Smith > > Jane ONeill wrote: > > > A tornado in Adelaide this morning? > > > > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,4342454%255E1702,00.html > > > > Jane > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > ASWA - Victoria > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 07:19:16 +0100 (BST) From: Mario Paul Subject: aus-wx: sydney storm To: weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com just found a nice pic of the sydney storm on thursday. go to www.zgeek.com and scroll down a bit..... very nice :)) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 15:56:27 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide tornado? and other adventures Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >A tornado in Adelaide this morning? > >http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,4342454%255E1702,00.html > >Jane Reports on the radio talked about several roofs being lifted and a glass wall 'exploding'. The eyewitness to that said that the debris was 'lofted into the air and further up the valley'. Could have been anything I suppose, but no mention of rotation in the reports I've seen. As for me I've just videod the passage of a lovely little squall line from Marino. Small hail, microburst, but no thunder. Off to review the footage now. Must keep saying to myself - it's only May, and this is a lot better than 2 weeks ago! Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." 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TO TONY LANGDON & EVERYONE ELSE;
             SORRY TO BOTHER EVERYBODY! I'LL TRY TO KEEP QUIET! MY SINCEREST APOLOGIES!
From: "Damien Howes" To: Subject: aus-wx: Horizon Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 19:05:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Howdy folks, just curious if anyone can help here. I would like to know if there is a formula to work out how much of a distant object  i.e. a Cb 200km away, is below the horizon when viewed from sea level. I believe there is a formula floating around for working out line of sight range/altitude for VHF radio that I may be able to use. Ta Damien Howes
From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: APOLOGIES Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 18:54:38 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
That wasn't pointed at you. :-)
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TO TONY LANGDON & EVERYONE ELSE;
             SORRY TO BOTHER EVERYBODY! I'LL TRY TO KEEP QUIET! MY SINCEREST APOLOGIES!
X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 20:07:03 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide tornado? and 8.00pm CST report Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>A tornado in Adelaide this morning? >> >>http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,4342454%255E1702,00.html >> >>Jane Hi all Well. the tornado seems to have been confirmed from the footage I saw tonight. Power poles bent over. Tops of trees twisted off. Roller doors etc etc all over the place. Oh, and the eyewitness who said that he "saw the debris funnel lift stuff at least 100 m into the air". Id say a mixture of F0 and F1 damage. As for Adelaide now - we are well into a lightning active cold air field and have just had a couple of falls of small hail with the last few cells. Down to 10degrees here. Lovely cells in the red are marching across the gulf at the moment - check out the Adelaide 128k loop! Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." 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JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 18:44:14 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: ICE Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 15:30 18/05/02 +1000, you wrote: > At 02:28 PM 18/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > i dont mean to be rude but can u plz stop sending me emails on the weather >im not intreasted anymore. > > I'll quote them again, for your reference.. > > "" in the body of your message. > > Hope that helps. > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 >/ Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 7/05/2002 Good one Tony JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: APOLOGIES Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 21:19:09 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Arky, Don't be quiet. This list is for anyone interested in weather...no matter where on the planet it is. And I'll be moving to the US soon (Oklahoma City), so I'll be posting US weather stuff on here as well, so keep it up. Alot of people appreciate finding out what the weather is like in other parts of the world. For those not interested in other countries weather....just delete the email and stop complaining. PaulY -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of arky dave Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 16:29 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: APOLOGIES TO TONY LANGDON & EVERYONE ELSE; SORRY TO BOTHER EVERYBODY! I'LL TRY TO KEEP QUIET! MY SINCEREST APOLOGIES! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ICE Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 21:45:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com No, they just think they're sending SMS messages ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gaul" To: Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 5:02 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: ICE > At 14:28 18/05/02 +1000, you wrote: > > i dont mean to be rude but can u plz stop sending me emails on the weather > >im not intreasted anymore. bye > > Is the word, "intreasted" as well as "u pliz" a new sense of jargon for > non-weather buffs? > I've heard something similar to anti-trainspotting buffs on the internet. > JohnGaul > NZTS > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Weather Station ONLINE! Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 21:38:46 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
Had a few bugs to clean out on my web site but i think it's all running ok now ... (fingers X'ed :)
 
Some of u asked what the correct link was. It's  homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
Note - there is no www at the start!
 
 
If u have any probs. please let me know. I'll add a email link to the site soon.
 
Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Halo around the sun Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 22:20:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Posted on Fri, May. 17, 2002 story:PUB_DESC
Harmless halo around the sun causes a buzz in South Florida

mmerzer at herald.com
Concentric rings appear around the sun in this view made in downtown Miami at 2:15 p.m. Friday.
Concentric rings appear around the sun in this view made in downtown Miami at 2:15 p.m. Friday.

Hey, look up. What the heck is that?

A wide, shadowy halo materialized around the sun this afternoon, transforming many South Floridians into instant astronomers, arousing a flood of calls to weather forecasters and inspiring more than a few dark thoughts.

'One guy said, `It's Armageddon,' '' said Sydelle Engel, a customer at the Flashback Diner in Hallandale Beach, a place that suddenly emptied as word spread and people flocked outside. ``Another guy said, `Good, I don't have to pay my bills.''

Not such a good idea.

Forecasters said the phenomenon, which even they rushed out to view, was caused by an icy layer of clouds 30,000 feet above all those spectators.

''It really started going right after noon,'' said Rusty Pfost, the meteorologist in charge of the National Weather Service's South Florida office. ``It is very impressive. It's just a gorgeous, gorgeous halo.''

Any halo around the sun often means rain is on the way, he said, and . . . it is.

Pfost said another batch of showers is expected to descend on South Florida by Sunday.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miami/news/local/3284810.


 

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Embedded Content: topstory_fromthe_txt.gif: 00000001,00000001,00000000,33c152f0 Embedded Content: archives_title.gif: 00000001,00000001,00000000,47b43c3c Embedded Content: spacer.gif: 00000001,00000001,00000000,5d566fe6 Embedded Content: 10787377436.jpg: 00000001,00000001,00000000,67263168 X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 00:58:43 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Halo around the sun Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 22:20 18/05/02 +1000, you wrote: > Posted on Fri, May. 17, 2002 re: ete.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc. and etc...... You get that now and then JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney storm Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 22:58:06 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com was the sky that orange or was there a filter involved? nice affect there with the camera on the ground.. ants point of view :) and that front coming in .. awesome. Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:04 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney storm > At 07:12 PM 17/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > >Not sure how long these will be available.....images of yesterday's > >Sydney storm!! > > > >Worth a look!!!! > > You're not wrong there! :-) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weekend weather Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 23:26:44 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Monring all, "Monring" ? Is that before "Morning Coffee" time? :) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 00:59:24 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Horizon Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com distance (nautical miles) = 1.21 times the square root of the height in thousands of feet. Eg, height 10,000 feet, square root is 100 times 1.21 = 121 nautical miles. Eg, height 40,000 feet, square root is 200 times 1.21 = 242 nautical miles. Convert to metres and kilometers as needed. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: matt smith Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 04:22:09 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Gday Matt,
 
Could you please email with your new email address.  . Had to reformat HDD.. 
 
Thanks

Dave
 
 
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: HELLO Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 13:46:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Ya'll:
         Sorry for the mix-up(that's what you get when you assume things), Well, I hope this makes everyone feel a bit warmer that the low in Mena this morning was 46F, our avg. low is around 56F. I would like to know what everyone thinks: Do mountains actually shield against tornadoes, as I think the ones north of Mena do? About how many twisters does Australia experience in a year? Is there an Australian "Tornado Alley"? The feeling is mutual, I'm very interested in wx in other parts of the world. Ta-ta.
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: Re:PAUL YOLE Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 17:26:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Dear Paul:
         I'm sure you will have no end of wx info. as you are moving to Oklahoma City--you will be in an active area of "Tornado Alley". Welcome to the USA. (Make sure your house has a storm cellar!) -David Powell
From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: Stable weather in USA Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 13:09:11 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi,
Tornado Alley looks quiet at the moment with a good ridge over that region. Not what you hope to see in May. 
I hope it destabilises soon for Jimmy.
Steven W
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: FYI Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 20:16:42 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Greetings:
         FYI: the wettest town in Arkansas is Glenwood (Pike County) annual avg.  55.44IN. Highest annual rain: 98.55IN at Newhope (Pike County) in 1957. Lowest annual rain: 19.11IN at Index (Miller County) in the notorious drought and heatwave year of 1936. (Info. courtesy 1995 USA Today Weather Almanac). I was wondering, what was the biggest earthquake in Australia?
                                                                                Have a good one!
From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: aus-wx: SE Aus Satellite images Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 11:34:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, More images courtesy of the CSIRO, all on one page with thumbnails www.stormchasers.au.com/1819_05_02.htm A nice way to start the snow season off early & an interesting weekend for the entire southeast...and it's not over yet!! 500hPa temps this morning were -29C over Melbourne with 0C at 850hPa! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: sleet/hail - Orange Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 14:52:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI all..
 
Just got phone call from friend in Orange, hail/sleet has started in Orange, 2-3 cm on ground at Springhill..  I cld hear it in background while on phone. Quite heavy.. 
 
Dave
Bathurst
 
 
 
From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: road reports - ice Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 15:14:16 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
 
Major ice on road between orange and Bx..  2 major car accidents reported.   6 cars in one accident.  3 in another accident near lucknow. 15 km from Orange.
 
Dave
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From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: snowing- heavy hail Bahturst Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 15:29:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
All .
 
I think its a good idea for no one to travel on any roads near orange/Bathurst/Oberon areas..  Radio reports being made to local radio stations.  SES. RTA,being called to halt traffic .. Snowing heavily in ORange.. Bx areas. 
 
Dave
 
 
From: "Ashton H Anderson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing- heavy hail Bahturst Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 15:38:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Great reports Dave, thank you.  Is the grid holding OK ?
 
Ashton
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All .
 
I think its a good idea for no one to travel on any roads near orange/Bathurst/Oberon areas..  Radio reports being made to local radio stations.  SES. RTA,being called to halt traffic .. Snowing heavily in ORange.. Bx areas. 
 
Dave
 
 
From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing- heavy hail Bahturst Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 15:55:38 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI
 
Seems like roads have been closed for 2.5 hours.  while accident cleaned up.. Cops saying that snow all over road.  
 
Sleet has started falling heavy  in Yethlome area between Bathurst & Lithgow Great Western Hwy.  Quite heavily as stated by cops.. doing road patrols.. no ice as yet.
 
Dave
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing- heavy hail Bahturst

Great reports Dave, thank you.  Is the grid holding OK ?
 
Ashton
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Subject: aus-wx: snowing- heavy hail Bahturst

All .
 
I think its a good idea for no one to travel on any roads near orange/Bathurst/Oberon areas..  Radio reports being made to local radio stations.  SES. RTA,being called to halt traffic .. Snowing heavily in ORange.. Bx areas. 
 
Dave
 
 
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:05:03 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather Subject: aus-wx: Stunning Temp dive at Orange Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://www.weatherzone.com.au/observations/history.jsp?wmo=95726&type=metar&name=Orange +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: snow falling Yetholme Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:05:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
More reports,  snow falling and settling on roads, Yetholme area, between Bathurst & Lithgow. reported by police.
 
Dave
 
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:24:39 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Stunning Temp dive at Orange Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A few charts
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Today/
Nnote the cold pool around Orange
 
 

Peter Creswick wrote:

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/observations/history.jsp?wmo=95726&type=metar&name=Orange

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From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing - Mt Lambie Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:11:04 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Snow now falling heavily Mt Lambie areas..  possible closing of roads.  
 
Dave
 
 
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Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing- heavy hail Bahturst

HI
 
Seems like roads have been closed for 2.5 hours.  while accident cleaned up.. Cops saying that snow all over road.  
 
Sleet has started falling heavy  in Yethlome area between Bathurst & Lithgow Great Western Hwy.  Quite heavily as stated by cops.. doing road patrols.. no ice as yet.
 
Dave
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing- heavy hail Bahturst

Great reports Dave, thank you.  Is the grid holding OK ?
 
Ashton
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Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:29 PM
Subject: aus-wx: snowing- heavy hail Bahturst

All .
 
I think its a good idea for no one to travel on any roads near orange/Bathurst/Oberon areas..  Radio reports being made to local radio stations.  SES. RTA,being called to halt traffic .. Snowing heavily in ORange.. Bx areas. 
 
Dave
 
 
From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: snow falling Yetholme Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:30:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Major snow on roads.... huge traffic delays  near Mt Lambie..  2 car accident..  unfort is a Fatal.  RTA being called in to possibly close roads.
 
Another accident reported.  car hit tree..   very slippery roads. 

Dave
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 4:05 PM
Subject: aus-wx: snow falling Yetholme

More reports,  snow falling and settling on roads, Yetholme area, between Bathurst & Lithgow. reported by police.
 
Dave
 
From: "elizebeth wilson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing - Mt Lambie Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:35:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Your updates are great Dave, Thankyou so much, I'm interested to see if this is going to be cold enough to give us some snow on the peaks through the Moonbi ranges 20klm north of Tamworth. I live in the foot of these ranges.
 
Keep them coming Dave, it's great to see what's going on.
 
Beth
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing - Mt Lambie

Snow now falling heavily Mt Lambie areas..  possible closing of roads.  
 
Dave
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing- heavy hail Bahturst

HI
 
Seems like roads have been closed for 2.5 hours.  while accident cleaned up.. Cops saying that snow all over road.  
 
Sleet has started falling heavy  in Yethlome area between Bathurst & Lithgow Great Western Hwy.  Quite heavily as stated by cops.. doing road patrols.. no ice as yet.
 
Dave
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing- heavy hail Bahturst

Great reports Dave, thank you.  Is the grid holding OK ?
 
Ashton
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Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:29 PM
Subject: aus-wx: snowing- heavy hail Bahturst

All .
 
I think its a good idea for no one to travel on any roads near orange/Bathurst/Oberon areas..  Radio reports being made to local radio stations.  SES. RTA,being called to halt traffic .. Snowing heavily in ORange.. Bx areas. 
 
Dave
 
 
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 16:48:57 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: snow falling Yetholme Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yep keep the updates comming! the temperature drop at bathurst is incredible! Sat pic looks great with cold air cb's headed for the blue mountains for the rest of the night! Very nice. Should be a beautiful white morning when everyone wakes up! Some photos would be great if you can get some!

Matt Smith

David Carroll wrote:

Major snow on roads.... huge traffic delays  near Mt Lambie..  2 car accident..  unfort is a Fatal.  RTA being called in to possibly close roads. Another accident reported.  car hit tree..   very slippery roads. 
Dave 
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Subject: aus-wx: snow falling Yetholme
 More reports,  snow falling and settling on roads, Yetholme area, between Bathurst & Lithgow. reported by police. Dave 
From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing - Mt Lambie Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:53:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI Beth,, thanks for the kind words.   I say one thing,  2 radio scanners have never been so busy. 
 
East Lane blocked towards Lithgow from Bathurst, SES advised, sleet/snow, rain you name it they have it. 
 
Police advise still heavy snow falling Mt Lambie area.
Dave
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing - Mt Lambie

Your updates are great Dave, Thankyou so much, I'm interested to see if this is going to be cold enough to give us some snow on the peaks through the Moonbi ranges 20klm north of Tamworth. I live in the foot of these ranges.
 
Keep them coming Dave, it's great to see what's going on.
 
Beth
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing - Mt Lambie

Snow now falling heavily Mt Lambie areas..  possible closing of roads.  
 
Dave
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing- heavy hail Bahturst

HI
 
Seems like roads have been closed for 2.5 hours.  while accident cleaned up.. Cops saying that snow all over road.  
 
Sleet has started falling heavy  in Yethlome area between Bathurst & Lithgow Great Western Hwy.  Quite heavily as stated by cops.. doing road patrols.. no ice as yet.
 
Dave
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: snowing- heavy hail Bahturst

Great reports Dave, thank you.  Is the grid holding OK ?
 
Ashton
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:29 PM
Subject: aus-wx: snowing- heavy hail Bahturst

All .
 
I think its a good idea for no one to travel on any roads near orange/Bathurst/Oberon areas..  Radio reports being made to local radio stations.  SES. RTA,being called to halt traffic .. Snowing heavily in ORange.. Bx areas. 
 
Dave
 
 
From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Lindsay at Oberon Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 17:13:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Just had sms from Lindsay who is at Oberon, he advised snow is on ground out there.. He also stated hit a kangaroo, he is ok though. 
 
Dave
 
 
 
 
From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Roads Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 17:36:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
SES are gearing up to possibly close Great Western Hwy at moments notice from Police, I believe snow has stopped at this stage.. Lighting and traffic control being setup for major accident, which will have 1 lane blocked for some time.
 
Dave
 
 
X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 17:35:09 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide - still raining! + possible tornado ob. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Another day full of coldies, small hail, waste anvils and scud action in SA. Lovely stuff even if there was no real severe weather. Really starting to crank up some impressive totals here at St Peters - I have over 50mm in the gauge from this event now. On another note, having checked the track of yesterdays Wattle Park tornado, and the times, I suspect the intense horizontal vorticity I observed just after 10am might have been the precursor to the nader (it touched down some 5km from my position, but about on the same track). Maybe all the vorticity needed was a bit of tilting and stretching to get it down to ground level. Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: FYI Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 18:43:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
How things vary in our world. Our average here is 22 inches! Just 3 inches above the Miller county low!! (75mm)
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 11:16 AM
Subject: aus-wx: FYI

Greetings:
         FYI: the wettest town in Arkansas is Glenwood (Pike County) annual avg.  55.44IN. Highest annual rain: 98.55IN at Newhope (Pike County) in 1957. Lowest annual rain: 19.11IN at Index (Miller County) in the notorious drought and heatwave year of 1936. (Info. courtesy 1995 USA Today Weather Almanac). I was wondering, what was the biggest earthquake in Australia?
                                                                                Have a good one!
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 20:51:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Australia probably has more tornadoes than most would realise. Opinions vary and there has never been any real scientific analysis of frequency. Some like myself are very conservative and would give an estimate that is at the low end of the scale. My opinion is a frequency that is similar to the Eastern states of the USA. This as you will know is much less than the mid west USA. Other Australian chasers would give higher frequency opinions.
 
There is an area of Eastern Australia that does seem to have a frequency that is higher. That area is the slopes and tablelands from NE NSW into SE Queensland. However there is also a high frequency of cold season tornadoes in the SW of Western Australia, in fact the actual number may even be higher than with the traditional spring / summer supercell variety of the eastern states. 
 
Regards
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 4:46 AM
Subject: aus-wx: HELLO

Hello Ya'll:
         Sorry for the mix-up(that's what you get when you assume things), Well, I hope this makes everyone feel a bit warmer that the low in Mena this morning was 46F, our avg. low is around 56F. I would like to know what everyone thinks: Do mountains actually shield against tornadoes, as I think the ones north of Mena do? About how many twisters does Australia experience in a year? Is there an Australian "Tornado Alley"? The feeling is mutual, I'm very interested in wx in other parts of the world. Ta-ta.
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sydney storm Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 22:50:53 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com No, It was that orange, with the cloud base a deep mauve - an awesome sight. John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Stargazer Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 11:28 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney storm was the sky that orange or was there a filter involved? nice affect there with the camera on the ground.. ants point of view :) and that front coming in .. awesome. Regs. Paul. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sydney storm Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 22:33:54 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com What is awesome about that Sydney storm, is that this is the first time I have seen mammatus on the underside of the backsheared part of the anvil (normally it is on the other side of the storm) John. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tony Langdon (VK3JED) Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:35 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney storm At 07:12 PM 17/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Not sure how long these will be available.....images of yesterday's >Sydney storm!! > >Worth a look!!!! You're not wrong there! :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Duncan & Mandy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide - still raining! + possible tornado ob. Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 23:16:34 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Phil, Can you tell me where abouts in Wattle Park the Tornado caused damage? Was in it the hills area (East of Penfold Road), or the flatter parts of the suburb (West of Penfold Road)? Cheers, Duncan Treloar Alice Springs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bagust" To: Sent: Sunday, 19 May 2002 5:35 pm Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide - still raining! + possible tornado ob. > Hi all > > Another day full of coldies, small hail, waste anvils and scud action in > SA. Lovely stuff even if there was no real severe weather. Really > starting to crank up some impressive totals here at St Peters - I have over > 50mm in the gauge from this event now. > > On another note, having checked the track of yesterdays Wattle Park > tornado, and the times, I suspect the intense horizontal vorticity I > observed just after 10am might have been the precursor to the nader (it > touched down some 5km from my position, but about on the same track). > Maybe all the vorticity needed was a bit of tilting and stretching to get > it down to ground level. > > Phil > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Photos up for the weekend weather. Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 23:25:59 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi,
 
Latest photos of this weekend weather:
 
 
It was an awesome activity especially on Saturday when I was at the Wynn Vale lookout 2nd time after the morning one. I was with Andrew and Kathy up there. Was watching line of heavy shower approaching then went overhead, brought heavy downpour and wind. It was so strong wind at the view apart from one of it has been a huge wind gust that blew my hat off and I grabbed the video camera bag to hold it. We have been video it and took photos of it. Seems fun so far. While then once at after the morning one we invited them over for coffee/warm up after being shivered at the lookout and there was a tornado to the east I think I heard. And we missed these out. D'oh!!!!
 
During the night. Dad took Tim and Ben for a ride in Toyota Soarer and Tim told me that he saw a lightning when they all came back home. (That was after I saw on aviation site that reported lightning to the SW from YPAD) So I raced outside with the video camera to see if there is anymore but nothing so bummer. Finally I went off to Tim's place for a spa. Unfortunately I didn't have time to take photo of anymore Cumulonimbus on Sunday due to went to the Aunty Ruth's Birthday party. Anyway overall pretty good.
 
From Nathan.
Enjoy surfing the photo gallery.
 
PS
 
We did received heavy fall but mostly short period. We had fantastic amount of rainfall for the weekend that we were pleased about. All got soaked nicely for the garden and the reservior is being filled up. I will tell the amount of rainfall tomorrow morning. Hope to see more activity coming one day again soon.
From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: road reports Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 00:03:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI all.
 
Latest report from roving Police, advised that no snow falling, only rain on Great Western Hwy between Bathurst & Lithgow.
 
All roads open at this stage.
 
Dave
 
 
From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Dewpoint Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 06:47:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
How do we work out the dewpoint? What multiplied by what etc. Thanks
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "Chas & Helen Osborn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO! Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:01:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello David
 
With all that rain and mild temperatures is Arkansas farming country?
 
Chas
Strahan Tasmania
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:33 AM
Subject: aus-wx: HELLO!

Hello Everyone & Greetings from the USA:
        I've just subscribed to your list and find it very fascinating. I live in Mena, (Polk County) Arkansas; Last year our avg. high was 70F and our avg. low was 49F, avg. rain is 54"; (elev. 1177 FT). I was wondering what town in Australia would be comparable to this? Today, May 17, here, a late season Canadian cold front came through with .90IN rain and temps falling through the mid-60sF. I've often wondered what it would be like in your country to be warm in December and cold in July! I often visit the Sig Wx Summary and the Daily Extremes sites.
                                                                               Yours,
                                                                           David J. Powell
                                                                           dajapo at voltage.net
 
 
 
 
From: "macdonald" To: Subject: aus-wx: Guyra conditons Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:19:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi All,
I decided to phone the ampol. Currently pretty overcast and cold at Guyra, the armidale auto weather stn (1080mtre) temp was 3.9C with precipitation.
 
Keep u posted,
cheers
Sam
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Baby Low. NW Tas. Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:32:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 May 2002 23:33:53.0965 (UTC) FILETIME=[A361C5D0:01C1FF8D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
 Interesting almost "local scale" low just off the northwest coast of Tasmania this morning, appears to be reacting to a small cold pool extension of the overall larger cold pool affecting southeast Aus. This area of vorticity can be traced to a cloud splotch that seems to have circulated around the primary low just east of Tasmania. At one stage this morning the 2300z sat pic showed an almost enclosed central 'eye'! just on the northwest tip of Tasmania, Tis small system is moving northeast. regards Clyve H.
From: "macdonald" To: Subject: aus-wx: 9AM TEMP GUYRA Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:51:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
3.0C, WNW 34km, 77%
From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Blue mtns snow Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:02:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Any snow in the Blue Mtns?
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 08:14:09 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Something strange happened this morning... For several hours after midnight the air-con in our bedroom didn't seem to be cooling at all. Then suddenly it started crackling very loudly and showering the whole bedroom with small pieces of ice. This is the first time in my life that I have ever experienced an INDOOR HAILSTORM. Has anyone else ever heard of such a thing? Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "macdonald" To: Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:51:49 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: 9AM TEMP GUYRA > 3.0C, WNW 34km, 77% > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Zac" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Blue mtns snow Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:18:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Apparently there was yesterday Damien,

Havent heard re this morning, but its certainly cold enougfh!!!!

I went out half an hour ago and the wind chill factor here at Wentworthville is a tad uncomfortable J)

 

Max

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Damian
Sent:
Monday, 20 May 2002 10:02 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Blue mtns snow

 

Any snow in the Blue Mtns?

From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Temperature drop in Sydney's North Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:36:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
At my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River in Sydney's Northern Suburbs it was 14.4 degrees around 9:30 this morning. Now at 10:30 the temperature is 10.7 & drizzly rain.
From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:48:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com RE: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong!

Phil,

Yeah, several times in here at work. Our a/c units aren't maintained all that well and at one stage there were two of them spitting ice chips out through the vents. I can't remember if there was any unusual conditions at the time, but I didn't think of it as an indoor hailstorm:-) Something to remember for the next time it happens.

Cheers
Andrew Godsman

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Smith [mailto:SmithP at ics.edu.hk]
Sent: Monday, 20 May 2002 10:14 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong!


Something strange happened this morning...
For several hours after midnight the air-con in our bedroom didn't seem
to be cooling at all.
Then suddenly it started crackling very loudly and showering the whole
bedroom with small pieces of ice.
This is the first time in my life that I have ever experienced an INDOOR
HAILSTORM.
Has anyone else ever heard of such a thing?

Phil
<><

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From: "macdonald" <sclmacdonald at optusnet.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:51:49 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: 9AM TEMP GUYRA

> 3.0C, WNW 34km, 77%
>


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From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: FYI Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 20:30:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Chas & Helen Osborn:
           Hello! Yes, Arkansas is farming country. In the eastern parts (nr. the Mississippi Riv.) are large soybean and cotton fields, also rice fields. In patches near the Arkansas River, grapes are grown. The area around Hope is known for watermelons, the area around Warren is known for tomatoes. In my (mountainous) area, it is mostly cattle farming/chicken houses/tree farms; there are also catfish farms. Our area is not flat enough for any large-scale farming. Have a great week!   Regards.
From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temperature drop in Sydney's North Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:11:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Damian,
 
The temperature did a similar thing down here at Wollongong earlier. It was fairly cold this morning anyway at 5am when I started out running to work, and I spent a fair bit of the 70 minutes holding onto my hat and trying not to get blown off the side of the cycleway. But at around 8:30am the wind swung SW, rain started and it is now quite a lot colder than earlier in the morning. I'd have to assume given the coldness of the wind and the fact that it is wet down here that places as low as Robertson and possibly the lower Blue Mountains would've got a dusting of snow, even if nothing has settled on the ground. If anyone has any news or images of the Southern Highlands I think we're all waiting to hear it.
 
What a beautiful day to be out and about. Just wish I wasn't stuck here at work until 7pm tonight.
 
Cheers
Andrew Godsman
-----Original Message-----
From: Damian [mailto:damoreds at optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 20 May 2002 10:37 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Temperature drop in Sydney's North

At my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River in Sydney's Northern Suburbs it was 14.4 degrees around 9:30 this morning. Now at 10:30 the temperature is 10.7 & drizzly rain.

EOM


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From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:29:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just proof that air conditioners also suffer from SDS. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:14 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! Something strange happened this morning... For several hours after midnight the air-con in our bedroom didn't seem to be cooling at all. Then suddenly it started crackling very loudly and showering the whole bedroom with small pieces of ice. This is the first time in my life that I have ever experienced an INDOOR HAILSTORM. Has anyone else ever heard of such a thing? Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: Temp. drop Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 20:40:43 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
G'Day from W.A.(Western Ark):
           That was a nice temp drop. One of the larger recent temp. drops in Mena was in 1998. on Dec. 21st, the morn. low was 51F, at midday the temp. reached 63F, then a true ARCTIC cold front blew through; before sunset the temp. was 32F, just before midnight, it was 20F, bottoming out at 14F on the morning of Dec. 22. I like to watch these events when they occur in daylight, you can actually watch the wx change right before your eyes!  HAVE A GREAT WEEK EVERYONE!
From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: FYI To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:40:36 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C1FEA8.ECB61000 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Greetings: > FYI: the wettest town in Arkansas is Glenwood (Pike County) = > annual avg. 55.44IN. Highest annual rain: 98.55IN at Newhope (Pike = > County) in 1957. Lowest annual rain: 19.11IN at Index (Miller County) in = > the notorious drought and heatwave year of 1936. (Info. courtesy 1995 = > USA Today Weather Almanac). I was wondering, what was the biggest = > earthquake in Australia? > = Not sure which was actually the biggest (and the measurement uncertainties are probably such that there is no definitive answer), but notable events (magnitudes around 7) include those near Robe, South Australia (1899), Meckering, Western Australia (1968), and a cluster of events around Tennant Creek, NT (1988). None of these caused any loss of life, although the Robe and Meckering events caused substantial local property damage. The most damaging earthquake by far was the Newcastle one of December 1989 (12 dead, >$1 billion damage). This was 'only' about 5.5, but was very shallow and directly underneath a city. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temperature drop in Sydney's North Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:32:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI Andrew.
 
Join the club..  i was called into work at 7am with a major outage up at Coonamble, Gilgandra areas.  Im back home now and back to work at 2pm until 10pm.  Its so cold here in Bathurst, 6 deg.. 4.4 in Orange.  We have had some winds to 33.1 km/h.  I think it cld be very busy later on. 
 
Dave
Bathurst
 
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Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temperature drop in Sydney's North

Damian,
 
The temperature did a similar thing down here at Wollongong earlier. It was fairly cold this morning anyway at 5am when I started out running to work, and I spent a fair bit of the 70 minutes holding onto my hat and trying not to get blown off the side of the cycleway. But at around 8:30am the wind swung SW, rain started and it is now quite a lot colder than earlier in the morning. I'd have to assume given the coldness of the wind and the fact that it is wet down here that places as low as Robertson and possibly the lower Blue Mountains would've got a dusting of snow, even if nothing has settled on the ground. If anyone has any news or images of the Southern Highlands I think we're all waiting to hear it.
 
What a beautiful day to be out and about. Just wish I wasn't stuck here at work until 7pm tonight.
 
Cheers
Andrew Godsman
-----Original Message-----
From: Damian [mailto:damoreds at optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 20 May 2002 10:37 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Temperature drop in Sydney's North

At my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River in Sydney's Northern Suburbs it was 14.4 degrees around 9:30 this morning. Now at 10:30 the temperature is 10.7 & drizzly rain.

EOM


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User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:48:41 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20011031 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong!
Best tell that to the one at my work a few months ago, it did the same thing only the ice wasnt spittiong out of it, it just clogged up in the vents at the front until practically 2/3 of it was ice.. needless to say it worked too good i think.

Dale.



Just proof that air conditioners also suffer from SDS.
From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: ICE To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:49:49 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C1FDEB.F3B74260 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > G'DAY from USA: > I was wondering if Australia experiences ice storms? Arkansas = > experienced back-to-back ice storms in December (13th & 25th) 2000. The = > damage total for our state was $547 million, which was the costliest = > natural disaster in Ark. history. Mena was without electricity for 4 = > days.(I will NEVER take elec. for granted again). The ice was over 3/4 = > IN thick on most everything. A multitude of trees (inc. hardwoods) came = > down. Tree farms were especially hard hit. Aside from Hwy. Dept. trucks = > that spray salt and cinders, Mena doesn't have any equip. to deal with = > ice or major snowfall. Thankfully, no pine trees hit the house, but they = > did take out the clothesline. I believe there were over 1100 truckloads = > of debris removed from the city. Our population is 6,500 or so. = > Fortunately, storms such as this occur VERY rarely. It was strange to = > see heavy rain and 33F; so I knew it was just a matter of time. See = > "ya'll" later. Have a great weekend! > Freezing rain occurs occasionally in the mountains, but as far as I'm aware there has never been an occurence of it at lower elevations. The necessary preconditions for it (a layer of air below freezing at low levels overlaid by warmer air above) almost never occur in Australia; except at elevations above 1000 metres (lower in Tasmania), temperatures much below 0 C occur only as a result of radiational cooling on clear, calm nights (and the very rare exceptions occur during periods of unstable S/SW flow with steep lapse rates through the atmosphere, so you wouldn't have the warmer air aloft). The only circumstances in which I could imagine freezing rain at low levels in Australia would be a scenario akin to July 10, 1995, but a couple of degrees colder - in that event a deep (~1200m) layer of cold air developed in persistent fog/low cloud over the weekend 8-9 July, then the cold air was advected south over Melbourne on the 10th - producing a maximum of about 6.8 C (the lowest since 1901). At Ballarat, near the coldest part of this layer, temperatures were around 1-2 C - if they had been below 0 freezing rain could have occurred in this region. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Snow reports Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 12:00:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Dave.
Sorry to hear about your busy work load, but you love it!!
 
Any snow in Orange on the ground? What about Oberon?
Do you know if there was any snow in the Blue Mountains at all?
 
 
Damian
From: "Tina Jones" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 12:05:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com yep, the AC in my car used to do the same thing in very hot weather!!!! Just before it blew up, so be careful.... Something strange happened this morning... For several hours after midnight the air-con in our bedroom didn't seem to be cooling at all. Then suddenly it started crackling very loudly and showering the whole bedroom with small pieces of ice. This is the first time in my life that I have ever experienced an INDOOR HAILSTORM. Has anyone else ever heard of such a thing? Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Photos up for the weekend weather. Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:35:44 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi everyone,

Weekend rainfall so far from manual rain gauge is 48.2mm. Excellent rainfall so far. Rainfall this month to date is 55.7mm. Year to date is 110.2mm. So I am far happy again about the rainfall. We had squall with showers late overnight to 27 knots.

From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 11:25 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Photos up for the weekend weather.

Hi,
 
Latest photos of this weekend weather:
 
 
It was an awesome activity especially on Saturday when I was at the Wynn Vale lookout 2nd time after the morning one. I was with Andrew and Kathy up there. Was watching line of heavy shower approaching then went overhead, brought heavy downpour and wind. It was so strong wind at the view apart from one of it has been a huge wind gust that blew my hat off and I grabbed the video camera bag to hold it. We have been video it and took photos of it. Seems fun so far. While then once at after the morning one we invited them over for coffee/warm up after being shivered at the lookout and there was a tornado to the east I think I heard. And we missed these out. D'oh!!!!
 
During the night. Dad took Tim and Ben for a ride in Toyota Soarer and Tim told me that he saw a lightning when they all came back home. (That was after I saw on aviation site that reported lightning to the SW from YPAD) So I raced outside with the video camera to see if there is anymore but nothing so bummer. Finally I went off to Tim's place for a spa. Unfortunately I didn't have time to take photo of anymore Cumulonimbus on Sunday due to went to the Aunty Ruth's Birthday party. Anyway overall pretty good.
 
From Nathan.
Enjoy surfing the photo gallery.
 
PS
 
We did received heavy fall but mostly short period. We had fantastic amount of rainfall for the weekend that we were pleased about. All got soaked nicely for the garden and the reservior is being filled up. I will tell the amount of rainfall tomorrow morning. Hope to see more activity coming one day again soon.
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: A QUESTION Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 22:03:17 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Everyone:
      I've a question: I have a digital(Battery operated) indoor/outdoor thermometer. For lack of a better place, the sensor is under a shutter, about 3/4In from the house wall. Would heat radiating off the bricks affect the sensor readings? Ex. on May 15, the official weather sta. for Mena (radio station KENA, abt. 1MI away) reported the high as 76F and low of 50F. The reading at my house was a high of 74.3F and a low of 54.2F. The readings overall seem to be closer on the highs than on the lows, what do ya'll think? The sensor is not in direct sun.
From: "islesit" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Guyra conditons - anybody close? Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 13:10:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

 

Dear Sam,

 

I live over at Coffs Harbour. Last year I went on my first chase for snow and we missed it by 6 hours! My family were most unimpressed at the long drive.

 

Hopefully ill have better intel this time!

 

Does anybody live in that area – Armidale – Guyra – Ebor (just beside highest spot on northern tablelands).

 

Very strong WNW winds here at moment – winter appears to have arrived.

 

BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY

http://www.bom.gov.au

 

Coffs Harbour

Date / Time = 20 12:00

Temperature = 19.3 C

Dew Point = -4.6 C

Relative Humidity = 19 %

Wind Direction = WNW

Wind Speed = 41 km/h

Nautical Wind Speed = 22 kt

Wind Gust = 61 km/h

Nautical Wind Gust = 33 kt

Barometric Pressure = 1004.6 hPa

Rain Since 9am = 0.0 mm

 

© Copyright Commonwealth of Australia 2002, Bureau of Meteorology.

 

 

Best wishes

 

Ian Isles

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of macdonald
Sent: Monday, 20 May 2002 9:19 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Guyra conditons

 

Hi All,

I decided to phone the ampol. Currently pretty overcast and cold at Guyra, the armidale auto weather stn (1080mtre) temp was 3.9C with precipitation.

 

Keep u posted,

cheers

Sam

Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 13:18:26 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: A QUESTION Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have my thermo hanging under the eaves of the roof near a wall - it never receives sunlight and normally records quite close to the Brisbane AP, although on more extreme nights/days - it will be noticably more extreme or conservative, I've always put that down to the heat around the house, and that it's not in the open. That will always happen, but if they're quite close to the nearby readings then normally for people with an interest in keeping records that's good enough. The next step is to get a stevenson screen and put it in an open area of your backyard. AC > arky dave wrote: > > Hello Everyone: > I've a question: I have a digital(Battery operated) > indoor/outdoor thermometer. For lack of a better place, the sensor is > under a shutter, about 3/4In from the house wall. Would heat radiating > off the bricks affect the sensor readings? Ex. on May 15, the official > weather sta. for Mena (radio station KENA, abt. 1MI away) reported the > high as 76F and low of 50F. The reading at my house was a high of > 74.3F and a low of 54.2F. The readings overall seem to be closer on > the highs than on the lows, what do ya'll think? The sensor is not in > direct sun. -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Guyra conditons + Wollongong Update Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 13:31:28 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Ian,
 
Timing will again probably be critical for this event. This is unless we only caught the edge of the coldest air this morning, as it is now a fair bit less bitey outside and the wind has calmed off a little. The coldest air only seemed to afflict us in Wollongong for around 4 hours max. It will be interesting how much of the dividing range has snowfalls from this, and hopefully when the winds are predicted to turn SE and colder at the end of the week, the eastern side of the ranges will see good snowfalls.
 
Bbrr..Bbbrr...BRING IT ON!! Nothing like a good cold burst.
 
Cheers
Andrew Godsman
(Cold and loving it)
-----Original Message-----
From: islesit [mailto:islesit at tpg.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 20 May 2002 1:11 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Guyra conditons - anybody close?

 

Dear Sam,

 

I live over at Coffs Harbour. Last year I went on my first chase for snow and we missed it by 6 hours! My family were most unimpressed at the long drive.

 

Hopefully ill have better intel this time!

 

Does anybody live in that area – Armidale – Guyra – Ebor (just beside highest spot on northern tablelands).

 

Very strong WNW winds here at moment – winter appears to have arrived.

 

BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY

http://www.bom.gov.au

 

Coffs Harbour

Date / Time = 20 12:00

Temperature = 19.3 C

Dew Point = -4.6 C

Relative Humidity = 19 %

Wind Direction = WNW

Wind Speed = 41 km/h

Nautical Wind Speed = 22 kt

Wind Gust = 61 km/h

Nautical Wind Gust = 33 kt

Barometric Pressure = 1004.6 hPa

Rain Since 9am = 0.0 mm

 

© Copyright Commonwealth of Australia 2002, Bureau of Meteorology.

 

 

Best wishes

 

Ian Isles

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of macdonald
Sent: Monday, 20 May 2002 9:19 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Guyra conditons

 

Hi All,

I decided to phone the ampol. Currently pretty overcast and cold at Guyra, the armidale auto weather stn (1080mtre) temp was 3.9C with precipitation.

 

Keep u posted,

cheers

Sam


EOM


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From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: SNOW IN MAY Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 22:54:31 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Greetings:
        I see ya'll are getting SNOW! Believe it or not Mena has had SNOW in May. I think it was in 1979, when a freak super-cold low pressure came through, the temp. never made it above 40F, and the system dumped 4" of wind-driven snow on the town. The lodge at Queen Wilhelmina State Park (atop 2681' Rich Mtn., 12MI NW by road) had over 12IN SNOW and stranded some tourists at the hotel. Quite a surprise!   Keep me in mind, when you're sledding down a hill, etc.
From: "Glen O'Riley" To: "Aussie Weather List" Subject: aus-wx: Fires Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 13:38:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Well folks, look like the idiot factor is at it again, I have just come back from a fire and there are others still burning in the Taree area thanks to the wind.
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Howdy Y'all:
            I was wondering how to convert hPa to INCHES of mercury. I am really trying to learn some metric readings, but I don't know the formula for baro. pressure. Any help is GREATLY appreciated. During the most severe T'storms the baro. at Mena AP seldom goes below 29.50".
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: A QUESTION Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 14:12:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi dave,
 
I have experimented with a digital thermometer like yours, and find that to get a reasonably consistent reading, it needs to be at least 3m (10 ft) from any external wall, approx 1m off the ground, in free air flow and fully shaded.   To minimise re-radiation effects from the ground/surroundings, a stevensen screen is best.
 
However, also from experience, I can guarantee that a therno placed in a stevensen screen situated adjacent to bitumen in a full sun position, will give a significantly higher reading than one in a stevensen screen 10m away sitting over grass under the shade of a tree.
 
So this leads me to ponder what "air temperature" really means...
 
John. 
>snip

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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of arky dave
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 1:03 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: A QUESTION

Hello Everyone:
      I've a question: I have a digital(Battery operated) indoor/outdoor thermometer. For lack of a better place, the sensor is under a shutter, about 3/4In from the house wall. Would heat radiating off the bricks affect the sensor readings? Ex. on May 15, the official weather sta. for Mena (radio station KENA, abt. 1MI away) reported the high as 76F and low of 50F. The reading at my house was a high of 74.3F and a low of 54.2F. The readings overall seem to be closer on the highs than on the lows, what do ya'll think? The sensor is not in direct sun.
From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 18:32:28 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
According to Chang (1972), the Australia and New Zealand region is second to the United States in the frequency of tornadoes, with around 15 per year, although some estimates for NZ exceed 25 per year. Sturmman/Tapper (1996)
 
Of coarse tornadoes downunder can't be compared with the US variety. Typically F0-F1 rarely F2.
 
Steven W
Auckland NZ
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Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO

Australia probably has more tornadoes than most would realise. Opinions vary and there has never been any real scientific analysis of frequency. Some like myself are very conservative and would give an estimate that is at the low end of the scale. My opinion is a frequency that is similar to the Eastern states of the USA. This as you will know is much less than the mid west USA. Other Australian chasers would give higher frequency opinions.
 
There is an area of Eastern Australia that does seem to have a frequency that is higher. That area is the slopes and tablelands from NE NSW into SE Queensland. However there is also a high frequency of cold season tornadoes in the SW of Western Australia, in fact the actual number may even be higher than with the traditional spring / summer supercell variety of the eastern states. 
 
Regards
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 4:46 AM
Subject: aus-wx: HELLO

Hello Ya'll:
         Sorry for the mix-up(that's what you get when you assume things), Well, I hope this makes everyone feel a bit warmer that the low in Mena this morning was 46F, our avg. low is around 56F. I would like to know what everyone thinks: Do mountains actually shield against tornadoes, as I think the ones north of Mena do? About how many twisters does Australia experience in a year? Is there an Australian "Tornado Alley"? The feeling is mutual, I'm very interested in wx in other parts of the world. Ta-ta.
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:47:08 +1000 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com  
There have been strong tornadoes recorded in Australia, a couple of F4's and some F3 and F2's, but yeah it seems rare to get very strong tornadoes here.

Matt Smith

Steven Williams wrote:

According to Chang (1972), the Australia and New Zealand region is second to the United States in the frequency of tornadoes, with around 15 per year, although some estimates for NZ exceed 25 per year. Sturmman/Tapper (1996) Of coarse tornadoes downunder can't be compared with the US variety. Typically F0-F1 rarely F2. Steven WAuckland NZ
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Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO
 Australia probably has more tornadoes than most would realise. Opinions vary and there has never been any real scientific analysis of frequency. Some like myself are very conservative and would give an estimate that is at the low end of the scale. My opinion is a frequency that is similar to the Eastern states of the USA. This as you will know is much less than the mid west USA. Other Australian chasers would give higher frequency opinions. There is an area of Eastern Australia that does seem to have a frequency that is higher. That area is the slopes and tablelands from NE NSW into SE Queensland. However there is also a high frequency of cold season tornadoes in the SW of Western Australia, in fact the actual number may even be higher than with the traditional spring / summer supercell variety of the eastern states. RegardsMichael 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 4:46 AM
Subject: aus-wx: HELLO
 Hello Ya'll:         Sorry for the mix-up(that's what you get when you assume things), Well, I hope this makes everyone feel a bit warmer that the low in Mena this morning was 46F, our avg. low is around 56F. I would like to know what everyone thinks: Do mountains actually shield against tornadoes, as I think the ones north of Mena do? About how many twisters does Australia experience in a year? Is there an Australian "Tornado Alley"? The feeling is mutual, I'm very interested in wx in other parts of the world. Ta-ta.
From: alex coates To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [150.101.129.4] Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:56:32 +0930 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: aus-wx: Wild Weekend in SA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, A wild weekend it has been with two tornados on Saturday. One at Coulta and one on the border of Wattle Park and Rosslyn Park, 110mm at Mt lofty over the three days to 9am this morning, 30mm plus at most stations. Temps yesterday as low as 9c for a high, 14c in Adelaide, 12c most of the day, falling to 9c in showers when it was extremly windy. At my station north of Adelaide 30.5mm two days to 9am today, 42.1 for the month, average 51.5mm. Better today alot calmer. Alex Coates Paralowie __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Questions about WM-918 Stn Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 17:16:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Do people recommend I take the cone off the thermometer to get a more accurate reading? I have my old thermometer next to the WM-918 thermometer & the old one seems to be alot more accurate.
 
Also, in the rain setting on the data box, how can I get the rain amount to stay in the memory for longer before the data moves to the 'total' amount of rain? For example I had 2mm of rain today but the data did not stay in the 'memory', but practically went straight to the 'total' setting in the rain setting.
 
 
 
Damian
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 04:34:14 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Onslow Rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I note that is rained heavily in Onslow last week... 40+ mm from memory. Onslow was heading towards a near record dry for 12 0r 15 months. Was this achieved// Anyone know?? Blair?? Thanks, Don White +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 17:32:11 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Why I agree that the US receives more violent tornadoes on the F-Scale compared to other countries (such as Australia), the thing is that in order for a tornado to receive an F3/4/5 rating, it actually has to hit something. And there isn't much to damage in Australia...(ie unpopulated). I've heard lots of estimates for tornadoes in Australia...while my estimate is very broad, I would be extremely surprised if the true count of tornadoes is less than a three figure sum (in fact I think ~200 or so). -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Questions about WM-918 Stn Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 17:56:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
No, don't take the cover off, it would stuff up the humidity reading.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:16 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Questions about WM-918 Stn

Do people recommend I take the cone off the thermometer to get a more accurate reading? I have my old thermometer next to the WM-918 thermometer & the old one seems to be alot more accurate.
 
Also, in the rain setting on the data box, how can I get the rain amount to stay in the memory for longer before the data moves to the 'total' amount of rain? For example I had 2mm of rain today but the data did not stay in the 'memory', but practically went straight to the 'total' setting in the rain setting.
 
 
 
Damian
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:55:26 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Tornadoes US-OZ comparison (was HELLO) X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Actually Australia probably has nearly as many tornados as the continental US, but because most of Oz is empty or covered in sparsely spaced farms, the vast majority of tornados would never be reported. The US on the other hand is far more densely populated with smaller farms and small villages towns and cities spread out all over the countryside. Therefore when a series of tornadoes heads across the countryside damage is much greater, simply because human structures manage to get in the way more often. Given that Oz is much drier overall than US, it is likely that the total number would be smaller, I just don't think it would be as much smaller as a lot of people think. Regarding whether tornadoes are F0 - F1 or F4 - F5, the only way at present of describing the F-numbers is by inspecting the damage done to human structures such as buildings, etc. Therefore, we may never know about most of the F5 tornadoes that occur in Oz. Given the vast emptiness of our country it is probably unrealistic to think that there will ever be a way to detect and measure all the tornadoes that occur. When I was a kid, I can remember several occasions in which farmers found a few of their cattle lying dead with every bone in their bodies broken several paddocks away from where the cows had been yesterday. The aboriginal stockmen always blamed the willy-willy, but I am quite sure nobody ever reported it to the Weather Bureau. Knowing what I know today, I am sure that we were unknowingly witnessing the effects of fairly severe tornadoes. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Steven Williams" To: Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 18:32:28 +1200 Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO > According to Chang (1972), the Australia and New Zealand region is > second to the United States in the frequency of tornadoes, with around > 15 per year, although some estimates for NZ exceed 25 per year. > Sturmman/Tapper (1996) > > Of coarse tornadoes downunder can't be compared with the US variety. > Typically F0-F1 rarely F2. > > Steven W > Auckland NZ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael Thompson > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:51 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO > > > Australia probably has more tornadoes than most would realise. > Opinions vary and there has never been any real scientific analysis of > frequency. Some like myself are very conservative and would give an > estimate that is at the low end of the scale. My opinion is a frequency > that is similar to the Eastern states of the USA. This as you will know > is much less than the mid west USA. Other Australian chasers would give > higher frequency opinions. > > There is an area of Eastern Australia that does seem to have a > frequency that is higher. That area is the slopes and tablelands from > NE NSW into SE Queensland. However there is also a high frequency of > cold season tornadoes in the SW of Western Australia, in fact the > actual number may even be higher than with the traditional spring / > summer supercell variety of the eastern states. > > Regards > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: arky dave > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 4:46 AM > Subject: aus-wx: HELLO > > > Hello Ya'll: > Sorry for the mix-up(that's what you get when you assume > things), Well, I hope this makes everyone feel a bit warmer that the > low in Mena this morning was 46F, our avg. low is around 56F. I would > like to know what everyone thinks: Do mountains actually shield against > tornadoes, as I think the ones north of Mena do? About how many > twisters does Australia experience in a year? Is there an Australian > "Tornado Alley"? The feeling is mutual, I'm very interested in wx in > other parts of the world. Ta-ta. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:12:21 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I agree Anthony. That big waterspout at the last Sydney to Hobart must have been up there in tornado strength. Of coarse there's the question of funnel clouds. Should we include these in the tornado count? Steven W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:32 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO > Why I agree that the US receives more violent tornadoes on the F-Scale > compared to other countries (such as Australia), the thing is that in > order for a tornado to receive an F3/4/5 rating, it actually has to hit > something. And there isn't much to damage in Australia...(ie > unpopulated). > > I've heard lots of estimates for tornadoes in Australia...while my > estimate is very broad, I would be extremely surprised if the true count > of tornadoes is less than a three figure sum (in fact I think ~200 or > so). > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 18:40:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Being an un-educated bugger, I'd say no, as they haven't touched the ground as a tornado should to be an official tornado. Hey guys! Did I get one right????? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Williams" To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:12 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO > I agree Anthony. That big waterspout at the last Sydney to Hobart must have > been up there in tornado strength. > Of coarse there's the question of funnel clouds. Should we include these in > the tornado count? > Steven W > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anthony Cornelius" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:32 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO > > > > Why I agree that the US receives more violent tornadoes on the F-Scale > > compared to other countries (such as Australia), the thing is that in > > order for a tornado to receive an F3/4/5 rating, it actually has to hit > > something. And there isn't much to damage in Australia...(ie > > unpopulated). > > > > I've heard lots of estimates for tornadoes in Australia...while my > > estimate is very broad, I would be extremely surprised if the true count > > of tornadoes is less than a three figure sum (in fact I think ~200 or > > so). > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > (07) 3390 4812 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 18:55:23 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Bussy, While the funnel doesn't have to touch the ground - the circulation does. If the circulation doesn't reach the ground then by definition it's not a tornado...but if it does, then you do! AC Bussy wrote: > > Being an un-educated bugger, I'd say no, as they haven't touched the ground > as a tornado should to be an official tornado. > Hey guys! Did I get one right????? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Williams" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO > > > I agree Anthony. That big waterspout at the last Sydney to Hobart must > have > > been up there in tornado strength. > > Of coarse there's the question of funnel clouds. Should we include these > in > > the tornado count? > > Steven W > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Anthony Cornelius" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:32 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO > > > > > > > Why I agree that the US receives more violent tornadoes on the F-Scale > > > compared to other countries (such as Australia), the thing is that in > > > order for a tornado to receive an F3/4/5 rating, it actually has to hit > > > something. And there isn't much to damage in Australia...(ie > > > unpopulated). > > > > > > I've heard lots of estimates for tornadoes in Australia...while my > > > estimate is very broad, I would be extremely surprised if the true count > > > of tornadoes is less than a three figure sum (in fact I think ~200 or > > > so). > > > -- > > > Anthony Cornelius > > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > > (07) 3390 4812 > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornadoes US-OZ comparison (was HELLO) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 19:18:12 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I remember watching a program once where people were trying to develop a system to detect tornadoes by listening for the distinct sound of a funnel using garden type hoses laid out on the ground in a wheel/spokes arrangement. A "mic" was placed in the centre (hub) of the "wheel" with the hoses radiating out from the "hub" like spokes to cover the compass. With a series of these detectors laid out over an area it was said they could triangulate the position of a tornado much like with lightning detection. ...or something like that :) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:25 PM Subject: aus-wx: Tornadoes US-OZ comparison (was HELLO) > Given the vast emptiness of our country it is probably unrealistic to > think that there will ever be a way to detect and measure all the > tornadoes that occur. > Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW IN MAY Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:55:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Dave
 
The actual area getting any snow is very small, around the higher parts of the Great Divide. The coastal areas had a cool start but late afternoon sun saw temps hit above 60F in most coastal regions.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 1:54 PM
Subject: aus-wx: SNOW IN MAY

Greetings:
        I see ya'll are getting SNOW! Believe it or not Mena has had SNOW in May. I think it was in 1979, when a freak super-cold low pressure came through, the temp. never made it above 40F, and the system dumped 4" of wind-driven snow on the town. The lodge at Queen Wilhelmina State Park (atop 2681' Rich Mtn., 12MI NW by road) had over 12IN SNOW and stranded some tourists at the hotel. Quite a surprise!   Keep me in mind, when you're sledding down a hill, etc.
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 21:33:07 +1000 From: Tim Grugeon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com *Sigh* I wish my AC in my car would spit out ice on a very hot summers day. If the temp hits 40, it is almost useless. Tina Jones wrote: >yep, the AC in my car used to do the same thing in very hot weather!!!! > >Just before it blew up, so be careful.... > > >Something strange happened this morning... >For several hours after midnight the air-con in our bedroom didn't seem >to be cooling at all. >Then suddenly it started crackling very loudly and showering the whole >bedroom with small pieces of ice. >This is the first time in my life that I have ever experienced an INDOOR >HAILSTORM. >Has anyone else ever heard of such a thing? > >Phil > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:02:12 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com According to Charles Doswell, who, I believe has seen the video from the Syd-Hobart, it was definitely a tornado. don W Steven Williams wrote: > > I agree Anthony. That big waterspout at the last Sydney to Hobart must have > been up there in tornado strength. > Of coarse there's the question of funnel clouds. Should we include these in > the tornado count? > Steven W > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anthony Cornelius" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:32 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO > > > Why I agree that the US receives more violent tornadoes on the F-Scale > > compared to other countries (such as Australia), the thing is that in > > order for a tornado to receive an F3/4/5 rating, it actually has to hit > > something. And there isn't much to damage in Australia...(ie > > unpopulated). > > > > I've heard lots of estimates for tornadoes in Australia...while my > > estimate is very broad, I would be extremely surprised if the true count > > of tornadoes is less than a three figure sum (in fact I think ~200 or > > so). > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > (07) 3390 4812 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean McWhinney" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:11:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com if you guys want tornados/waterspouts almost ALL sqaulls at sea have one in the last 10 trips i have seen 8 waterspouts i would also like to know why they are more regualar at sea? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don White" To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:02 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO > According to Charles Doswell, who, I believe has seen the video from the > Syd-Hobart, it was definitely a tornado. > > don W > > Steven Williams wrote: > > > > I agree Anthony. That big waterspout at the last Sydney to Hobart must have > > been up there in tornado strength. > > Of coarse there's the question of funnel clouds. Should we include these in > > the tornado count? > > Steven W > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Anthony Cornelius" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:32 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO > > > > > Why I agree that the US receives more violent tornadoes on the F-Scale > > > compared to other countries (such as Australia), the thing is that in > > > order for a tornado to receive an F3/4/5 rating, it actually has to hit > > > something. And there isn't much to damage in Australia...(ie > > > unpopulated). > > > > > > I've heard lots of estimates for tornadoes in Australia...while my > > > estimate is very broad, I would be extremely surprised if the true count > > > of tornadoes is less than a three figure sum (in fact I think ~200 or > > > so). > > > -- > > > Anthony Cornelius > > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > > (07) 3390 4812 > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:03:17 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com air conditioners that ice up need service by a competant refrigeration mechanic asap. it's caused by an incorrect thermostat cutout setting, the evaporation core ices up and the liquid refrigerant that's supposed to evaporate and coo the air stays liquid back to the compressor. the compressor is only designed to handle gas, when the liquid hits the compressor it stalls and a thermal current overload throws out to stop the motor from burning out.. the air conditioning fan keeps running, as the ice melts it breaks up and gets blown out. the thermostat needs to be reset just above 0 so it turns the compressor off before the core has a chance to ice up. regards RM ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Grugeon To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:03 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! > *Sigh* > I wish my AC in my car would spit out ice on a very hot summers day. If > the temp hits 40, it is almost useless. > > Tina Jones wrote: > > >yep, the AC in my car used to do the same thing in very hot weather!!!! > > > >Just before it blew up, so be careful.... > > > > > >Something strange happened this morning... > >For several hours after midnight the air-con in our bedroom didn't seem > >to be cooling at all. > >Then suddenly it started crackling very loudly and showering the whole > >bedroom with small pieces of ice. > >This is the first time in my life that I have ever experienced an INDOOR > >HAILSTORM. > >Has anyone else ever heard of such a thing? > > > >Phil > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 21:53:30 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Richard and others for your helpful suggestions. I got the ladder out tonight and went up for a look and it turned out that my 11 year old son had turned the thermostat beyond the Coldest end of its range to the "Test" setting and left it there. I turned it back to the range we normally have it set at and it has been working fine for the last hour. It's mounted right up flush with the ceiling above the bedroom window. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:03:17 +0930 Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! > air conditioners that ice up need service by a competant refrigeration > mechanic asap. it's caused by an incorrect thermostat cutout setting, > the > evaporation core ices up and the liquid refrigerant that's supposed to > evaporate and coo the air stays liquid back to the compressor. the > compressor is only designed to handle gas, when the liquid hits the > compressor it stalls and a thermal current overload throws out to stop > the > motor from burning out.. the air conditioning fan keeps running, as the > ice > melts it breaks up and gets blown out. the thermostat needs to be reset > just > above 0 so it turns the compressor off before the core has a chance to > ice > up. > > regards RM > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tim Grugeon > To: > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:03 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! > > > > *Sigh* > > I wish my AC in my car would spit out ice on a very hot summers day. > If > > the temp hits 40, it is almost useless. > > > > Tina Jones wrote: > > > > >yep, the AC in my car used to do the same thing in very hot > weather!!!! > > > > > >Just before it blew up, so be careful.... > > > > > > > > >Something strange happened this morning... > > >For several hours after midnight the air-con in our bedroom didn't > seem > > >to be cooling at all. > > >Then suddenly it started crackling very loudly and showering the > whole > > >bedroom with small pieces of ice. > > >This is the first time in my life that I have ever experienced an > INDOOR > > >HAILSTORM. > > >Has anyone else ever heard of such a thing? > > > > > >Phil > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Duncan & Mandy" To: "aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: high tides in the tropics Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:52:50 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I was just watching 'The Blue Planet' (on video) episode on tides, and it mentioned that the gravity forces of the moon are greater closer to the Poles, so therefore the tides are much greater in the Colder areas of earth. (And perhaps have a greater effect on Ken Rings' forcasts). I am not about to disagree with this, except that the second biggest tide in the World after Novia Scotia is at Derby, Northern W.A. This is obviously a very warm and tropical spot. As far as I know, the biggest tides in Australia are in the Northern warmer regions of the country. Does anyone have an explanation for this? Cheers, Duncan Treloar Alice Springs +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:55:20 +0930 From: Richard Albury X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: A QUESTION Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anthony Cornelius wrote: > I have my thermo hanging under the eaves of the roof near a wall - it > never receives sunlight and normally records quite close to the Brisbane > AP, although on more extreme nights/days - it will be noticably more > extreme or conservative, I've always put that down to the heat around > the house, and that it's not in the open. That will always happen, but > if they're quite close to the nearby readings then normally for people > with an interest in keeping records that's good enough. The next step > is to get a stevenson screen and put it in an open area of your > backyard. > > AC > > Hi Anthony The heat coming off your house could affect your readings which could make your records a little out. May I suggest that you make your own Stevenson screen; it's not very hard to do and you could make it to fit your circumstances. The basic idea for one is to leave free circulation of air around the thermometers and other temp / barometic instruments. The "good book" on meterological set ups states that the screen must be at least 0.75 metres (4 feet) clearance all around it to preclude any erroneous readings, however in some circumstances this is not practical. For many years I made an open framed box with a hinged door made exactly the same way as the rest of the box. The box was made up of 2 upright pieces of timber 25mm square (length to suit circumstances) to which is nailed and or glued 2 pieces of 12 mm plywood 200 mm wide; again the length-width of the box is entirely up to you. On the opposite side was nailed-glued 3 pieces of 12 mm plywood in such a way that these overlap the 2 pieces already done- the uprights acting both as corner supports and spacing for the free circulation of air inside the screen. All 6 sides are made this way; 5 sides made rigid and reinforced "L" brackets top and bottom and the 6th side (front)is the door. How it is hinged is up to you for your convenience; on my screen it was hinged at the bottom and supported my a small chain so the door also acted as a table for writing down my measurements and observations. In the center of the screen is added a frame to hang and support the max - min thermometers, wet and dry bulb thermometers and in my case, an aneriod barometer (and a laminated R.H. table) It is a good idea to make a sloping roof from plywood so any rain runs off. On my screen the front of the roof was 65 mm high and the back was 15 mm high and the roof overhung the screen by 110 mm all around. The whole lot is then painted with many coats of white paint. I used ceiling paint for the first 6 coats and a gloss white as the last coat. In the construction stage it would be a good idea to paint the 2 internal battens before fixing on the 3 or more outside battens. The screen is actually easier to make than describe its manufacture. Finally the finished screen is mounted on a sturdy pole (which in my case was my wind vane mast) approx 4 feet from the ground and vio`la; one serviceable home made Stevenson screen. (and it works splendidly) A good project for a dreary rainy afternoon and the cost for materials should not be more than $20. Richard. South australia P.S I have made quite a few weather instruments that even the Bureau of Meterology has commened; some I use to this day. R +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 00:31:41 +0930 From: Richard Albury X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Barometric conversions Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com arky dave wrote: > Howdy Y'all: I was wondering how to convert hPa to INCHES > of mercury. I am really trying to learn some metric readings, but I > don't know the formula for baro. pressure. Any help is GREATLY > appreciated. During the most severe T'storms the baro. at Mena AP > seldom goes below 29.50". Hi Arky Dave Hopes this helps you Richard . South Australia From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: HELLO Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 01:57:07 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just to agree with AC here, if you consider that in the past 12 months (being fairly typical), there has in fact been around 15 tornadoes reported from just within the greater city areas (totalled) of Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth (with 3 just in the past week: 2 x Adelaide, 1 x Perth), and then consider how tiny these areas are in comparison to all Oz, then the figure must be well in excess of 200 per annum, and probably in excess of 300. This compares to around 700 for continental USA. The sparse population means few tornadoes outside the major centres get reported as little damage is done, but there is always a smattering of reports from country centres each year. Mostly recognition is not given to the actual events, other than a description of 'freak storm'. Few Australians actually even recognise that Australia has tornadoes! Thanks in part to the efforts of ASWA members, reliable reporting of events is becoming more common. It seems to me, that for each tornado of a given F scale rating, there is approx 10x more at the next lower rating, thus, for every F4, there are around 10xF3, 100xF2, etc.. I'm not sure whether Fujita had this in mind when he created the scale, but this seems to be very approximately true in the U.S. and here. F4 tornadoes are certainly known in this country, The Bucca QLD and Buladelah NSW events being examples (the latter may even have deserved an F5 rating). F3 tornadoes are recorded from Collie in WA, Brisbane QLD, Sandon Vic, and various other locations, with one track of around 140km recorded crossing the SA/VIC border. But of course, the vast majority are F0, F1. In "Climates & Weather Explained" by Edward Linacre & Bart Geerts, it is documented that the frequency of tornadoes reported for the 10,000 sq km Sydney region, based on reports from 1950..1989, is about 1/5th that of Tornado alley in central Oklahoma USA. They also mention that of the 1,000 or so tornadoes reported so far in Oz, only a handful exceeded F2. There is no particular evidence to suggest that the Sydney region is representative, and I would expect some other areas, e.g., the coastal strip of SW WA to show a higher density than Sydney. Tornadoes in this area are generally associated with frontal thunderstorm activity in Winter, whereas those for the Eastern States are generally associated with summertime supercell thunderstorms. John W. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Anthony Cornelius Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:32 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: HELLO Why I agree that the US receives more violent tornadoes on the F-Scale compared to other countries (such as Australia), the thing is that in order for a tornado to receive an F3/4/5 rating, it actually has to hit something. And there isn't much to damage in Australia...(ie unpopulated). I've heard lots of estimates for tornadoes in Australia...while my estimate is very broad, I would be extremely surprised if the true count of tornadoes is less than a three figure sum (in fact I think ~200 or so). -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:51:08 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Howdy All:
        To give you an idea of the erratic snowfall pattern for Mena, here are some yearly SNOW totals. 1991=TRACE(flurries on 4 days). 1992=1 1/2IN, 1993=TRACE(flurries on 3 days). 1994=TRACE(flurries on 5 days). 1995= 6IN, 1996= 2IN, 1997= 6 3/4IN, 1998=TRACE(flurries on 4 days), 1999=TRACE(flurries on 4 days), 2000= 12 1/2IN, 2001=TRACE(flurries on 4 days). Snow is so infrequent here, and I LOVE SNOW, that's the reason I go nuts when we do get it. What was the deadliest tornado in Australia?    
   Thanks,  David Powell
Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 07:12:33 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List Subject: aus-wx: SE QLD Gales Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, It's been very windy here over the past 24hrs! More so yesterday, lots of branches down around the area when you drive around and from various radio reports there's been quite a few trees brought down around Brisbane. One person was killed when a tree brought down powerlines - the person was trying to put out a grass fire (not sure whether or not it was produced by the powerlines or not). Ann St (major road in the city) will be partially closed today as they have to clean off debris that has fallen off buildings (scaffolding etc) from the strong winds. I've often noticed that "land gale warnings" are rarely issued in SE QLD. With nearly every station yesterday morning reporting gusts near 40 knots, perhaps it would have been worthwhile. Does the Bureau take into account other factors such as the lack of insigificant storm activity in Brisbane over the past 1-2 years which would mean that gales could do more tree damage? (Only curious!) -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 08:12:45 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2002 22:12:45.0785 (UTC) FILETIME=[78223490:01C2004B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

I'll have a go at this.  There was a tornado at a place called Sandon in Central Victoria, in November (?) 1976 which killed two people.  I'm not completely across the history of fatal tornados in Australia, but in recent times, I'm pretty sure that this is the one with the most fatalities.

>From: "arky dave"
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>To:
>Subject: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY
>Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:51:08 -0500
>
>Howdy All:
> To give you an idea of the erratic snowfall pattern for Mena, here are some yearly SNOW totals. 1991=TRACE(flurries on 4 days). 1992=1 1/2IN, 1993=TRACE(flurries on 3 days). 1994=TRACE(flurries on 5 days). 1995= 6IN, 1996= 2IN, 1997= 6 3/4IN, 1998=TRACE(flurries on 4 days), 1999=TRACE(flurries on 4 days), 2000= 12 1/2IN, 2001=TRACE(flurries on 4 days). Snow is so infrequent here, and I LOVE SNOW, that's the reason I go nuts when we do get it. What was the deadliest tornado in Australia?
> Thanks, David Powell


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From: "Chas & Helen Osborn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:30:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello David
 
What is your location (Lat/Long)? Just trying to locate you to equivalent location in Australia.
 
Chas
Strahan Tasmania
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:51 AM
Subject: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY

Howdy All:
        To give you an idea of the erratic snowfall pattern for Mena, here are some yearly SNOW totals. 1991=TRACE(flurries on 4 days). 1992=1 1/2IN, 1993=TRACE(flurries on 3 days). 1994=TRACE(flurries on 5 days). 1995= 6IN, 1996= 2IN, 1997= 6 3/4IN, 1998=TRACE(flurries on 4 days), 1999=TRACE(flurries on 4 days), 2000= 12 1/2IN, 2001=TRACE(flurries on 4 days). Snow is so infrequent here, and I LOVE SNOW, that's the reason I go nuts when we do get it. What was the deadliest tornado in Australia?    
   Thanks,  David Powell
X-Originating-IP: [203.109.250.99] From: "Hector Pascal" To: Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW Rain and Winds? Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 09:31:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2002 23:32:02.0012 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B10D9C0:01C20056] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, Some models are indicating the possibility of a small low forming off northeast NSW on Friday. NGP and MRF show an intensification and MRF positions it further south. MRF predicts rain in the 45mm to 80mm range for the NSW central coast on Saturday, NGP is far more conservative with rain peaking in the 12mm to 18mm range and positioning it along the Northern Rivers coast. GASP has given its usual wild rain prediction with falls over 100mm to Saturday 12z. Paul +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:34:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2002 23:36:10.0279 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F0B6370:01C20057] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Michael
This tornado occurred on 13th November 1976, there were at least two other tornadoes reported from central Vic on this day. The cloud tops associated with the Sandon Tornado reached 18,500 metres!! and was rated at F3 by the BOM (some buildings were damaged). About 10klm to the south an amateur  photographer was trying out her new Nikon SLR, somewhere in Melbourne there may be about 50 shots of this tornado taken from its development to its decay hidden in a cupboard. The tornado lasted about 30 minutes and was on the ground most of this time. One of these photographs was published in the Age I think on the 15th November (front page).... it was a stunner... regards Clyve H.
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I'll have a go at this.  There was a tornado at a place called Sandon in Central Victoria, in November (?) 1976 which killed two people.  I'm not completely across the history of fatal tornados in Australia, but in recent times, I'm pretty sure that this is the one with the most fatalities.

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>Howdy All:
> To give you an idea of the erratic snowfall pattern for Mena, here are some yearly SNOW totals. 1991=TRACE(flurries on 4 days). 1992=1 1/2IN, 1993=TRACE(flurries on 3 days). 1994=TRACE(flurries on 5 days). 1995= 6IN, 1996= 2IN, 1997= 6 3/4IN, 1998=TRACE(flurries on 4 days), 1999=TRACE(flurries on 4 days), 2000= 12 1/2IN, 2001=TRACE(flurries on 4 days). Snow is so infrequent here, and I LOVE SNOW, that's the reason I go nuts when we do get it. What was the deadliest tornado in Australia?
> Thanks, David Powell


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User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:33:18 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20011031 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Fires
This one yesterday here around Brisbane was a ripper, the plume itself stretched far off the coast fanned by these 30-40 knot SW winds.

I managed to get a few quick snaps in before work and have just uploaded them.
They were taken from a great distance but nonetheless

http://au.geocities.com/x4y2z4c1v4b7x/fire200502/

Sift through at will.

Regards,
Dale


Well folks, look like the idiot factor is at it again, I have just come back from a fire and there are others still burning in the Taree area thanks to the wind.
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From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: RAIN FREQ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 21:53:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello to All:
          I was wondering, do you get reports from towns in Australia of it raining TWICE in one day? (A rain event, rain stopped/partial clearing, and another rain event the same day). This infrequently happens in Mena. Ex. on Sep. 18,2001:(Prefrontal Activity)  .50IN in an early A.M. shower, then partial clearing, then .20IN in a late P.M. thundershower. Lat. and Lon. for Mena is roughly slightly North of 34DEG34MIN NORTH, and slightly East of 94DEG16MIN WEST.
From: "Dave Ellem" To: Subject: aus-wx: Humidity - 0% ???? Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 19:13:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Goodevening!!
Brrrrr, it's cold! 14.8C In NE NSW and the DP has dropped into the minus for the first time this year (yeah I know, I am a wus and would love to move to Darwin for winter!!). With this low dewpoint I then noticed that the RH was around 35% which made me think, at what point would the RH be 0%. Has it happened before somewhere and is it common occurance? Thanks.
 
Dave Ellem
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: TORNADOES Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:24:05 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Again:
        Since 1950, there have been 960 reported twisters in Arkansas, resulting in 328 deaths. The most tornadoes reported was 55 in Pulaski County, least reported was 4 in Scott County. White County had the most deaths with 59, several Ark. counties have no deaths. Polk Co.= 19 twisters, 1 death. The worst Ark. twister hit the town of Greenwood (Sebastian County) in 1968, I believe there were 11 deaths. On Nov. 13, 1993, a twister went through Mena(I didn't see it, but I did hear the warning siren). Thankfully the funnel lifted before it got to the hospital. I've heard the funnel never touched the ground, but from looking at damage, I find that hard to believe). Miraculously, NO ONE was killed and only about 30 injured. Abt. $7 MIL in damage. No damage where I live. Ark. had an estimated 38 twisters on Jan. 21, 1999; which is a U.S. record for twisters in one state in one day.
See ya'll later;  David Powell
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: REL HUM Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:39:31 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Re:Dave Ellem: Hello:
         According to 1995 edition of USA Today Weather Almanac, the Avg. P.M. Relative Humidity for Las Vegas, Nevada for the month of June is 10%. So, I would guess that the R.H. there would near 0%.
 Regards, David J. Powell
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Humidity - 0% ???? Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:55:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
G'day Dave,
 
RH's below 5% are not unusual for Perth in summer when the N. Easterly blows, but I doubt it ever truely gets to 0%.
 
John.     
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Goodevening!!
Brrrrr, it's cold! 14.8C In NE NSW and the DP has dropped into the minus for the first time this year (yeah I know, I am a wus and would love to move to Darwin for winter!!). With this low dewpoint I then noticed that the RH was around 35% which made me think, at what point would the RH be 0%. Has it happened before somewhere and is it common occurance? Thanks.
 
Dave Ellem
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: TORNADOES Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 15:00:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I think we have been very fortunate in Oz that no really significant tornado has hit a major population centre - but it is only a matter of time...
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of arky dave
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Hello Again:
        Since 1950, there have been 960 reported twisters in Arkansas, resulting in 328 deaths. The most tornadoes reported was 55 in Pulaski County, least reported was 4 in Scott County. White County had the most deaths with 59, several Ark. counties have no deaths. Polk Co.= 19 twisters, 1 death. The worst Ark. twister hit the town of Greenwood (Sebastian County) in 1968, I believe there were 11 deaths. On Nov. 13, 1993, a twister went through Mena(I didn't see it, but I did hear the warning siren). Thankfully the funnel lifted before it got to the hospital. I've heard the funnel never touched the ground, but from looking at damage, I find that hard to believe). Miraculously, NO ONE was killed and only about 30 injured. Abt. $7 MIL in damage. No damage where I live. Ark. had an estimated 38 twisters on Jan. 21, 1999; which is a U.S. record for twisters in one state in one day.
See ya'll later;  David Powell
From: Tim Eckert To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [203.220.183.166] Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 15:21:22 +1000 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weekend weather - Adelaide Sat 8.40am CST Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. What a weekend to have been in Adelaide!! I don't think I've ever seen so many coldies/squalls one after each other as I did this weekend. (Plus all the others I missed when I was stuck inside). McLaren Vale (where I was) recieved just on 50mm over the weekend. Several showers had hail but we didn't really have any lightning, only a couple of Cc's were observed to the north at about 2am on Sunday morning. Meanwhile, I feel sorry for the farmers back home here in Western Vic. It is sad to see that we have missed out on some of the bigger rains from this system. So they are still waiting for a break in the season. I have recorded only 10.5mm here for the 72 hrs to 9am this morning. There is another 1.5mm from light showers this morning. We have now had 28mm so far in May. (average approx. 70mm) Tim. Original message from: Phil Bagust > >Hi all > >Large area of prefrontal activity currently in the gulf about 60km SW of >Adelaide. Plently of pink on the radar, some activity on the lightning >tracker, some static on the radio. > >Main action hopefully with the frontal passage after mid day. I'll be chasing. > >Phil > >Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au >- - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - >. > __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:19:27 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN FREQ X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, when I lived in Victoria, both in Melbourne and Ballaarat, it was not all that uncommon to have it rain significantly in the morning, clear up almost completely - sun shining brightly - and then another period of rain later in the afternoon. In fact the best area for this seemed to be the rolling plains of South Western Victoria in the area of say Casterton - Kaniva - Dunkeld - Ballaarat - Geelong - Colac - Terang - Warrnambool. Less in the West and more in the East of that strip. Haven't been down that way for at least twenty years now, but it seems that in all of those places I can remember similar patterns. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "arky dave" To: Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 21:53:58 -0500 Subject: aus-wx: RAIN FREQ > Hello to All: > I was wondering, do you get reports from towns in Australia > of it raining TWICE in one day? (A rain event, rain stopped/partial > clearing, and another rain event the same day). This infrequently > happens in Mena. Ex. on Sep. 18,2001:(Prefrontal Activity) .50IN in an > early A.M. shower, then partial clearing, then .20IN in a late P.M. > thundershower. Lat. and Lon. for Mena is roughly slightly North of > 34DEG34MIN NORTH, and slightly East of 94DEG16MIN WEST. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: RAIN Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 02:45:28 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI!
      When Mena gets rain TWICE in one day it usually is due to rainfall from a (Canadian or Pacific) Cold front, then rain stops/partial clearing, then a brief shower as the vortex of the low ("backwash" as I call it) passes close by. PHIL SMITH= Do you think those towns in VIC get rain TWICE a day because of rainfall of a tropical nature? What is the earliest/latest out-of-season snowfall in Australia? As I mentioned before, Mena has had SNOW in May. Last year, from last Spring freeze (32F/0C) to first Fall freeze, was from April 18 to October 28.
THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR ANSWERS, INFO, & HELP!
X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 18:03:23 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2002 08:03:23.0794 (UTC) FILETIME=[FAD53F20:01C2009D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Thanks Clyve

Late 1976 was an extraordinary time for 'natural phenomena' around Central and Southern Victoria.  On Cox Plate Day, three weeks before the Sandon event, Melbourne experienced a total eclipse.  I lived near the zoo then, and all the creatures went off their brains when darkness descended quickly for about 3 minutes between 4 and 5 pm that afternoon.  The most noteworthy and memorable part of what happened was how quickly darkness rushed across the sky as the sun was blotted out.  One is used to the gradual fade of sunset, but on this occasion you could actually see a band of night quickly advancing as it took over the sky in probably less than 10 seconds.  The most amazing sight I've ever seen.  Anyone else with eclipse memories?

As for the Sandon cloud tops reaching 18,000 metres, I don't doubt it.  A friend of mine took video of the South Coast tornado on 26th December last.  His footage took in the cloud top, with the requisite overshoot and 'handles', and based on an eyewitness's estimate that the funnel was 1000 metres in height, from sea to cloud base, the parent cloud would have been about the same height as the Sandon event.  I'll bring the footage to the ASWA AGM, for those who haven't seen it.

Michael

>From: "Clyve Herbert"
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>Hi Michael
>This tornado occurred on 13th November 1976, there were at least two other tornadoes reported from central Vic on this day. The cloud tops associated with the Sandon Tornado reached 18,500 metres!! and was rated at F3 by the BOM (some buildings were damaged). About 10klm to the south an amateur photographer was trying out her new Nikon SLR, somewhere in Melbourne there may be about 50 shots of this tornado taken from its development to its decay hidden in a cupboard. The tornado lasted about 30 minutes and was on the ground most of this time. One of these photographs was published in the Age I think on the 15th November (front page).... it was a stunner... regards Clyve H.
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>
> I'll have a go at this. There was a tornado at a place called Sandon in Central Victoria, in November (?) 1976 which killed two people. I'm not completely across the history of fatal tornados in Australia, but in recent times, I'm pretty sure that this is the one with the most fatalities.
>
>
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> >From: "arky dave"
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> >To:
> >Subject: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY
> >Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:51:08 -0500
> >
> >Howdy All:
> > To give you an idea of the erratic snowfall pattern for Mena, here are some yearly SNOW totals. 1991=TRACE(flurries on 4 days). 1992=1 1/2IN, 1993=TRACE(flurries on 3 days). 1994=TRACE(flurries on 5 days). 1995= 6IN, 1996= 2IN, 1997= 6 3/4IN, 1998=TRACE(flurries on 4 days), 1999=TRACE(flurries on 4 days), 2000= 12 1/2IN, 2001=TRACE(flurries on 4 days). Snow is so infrequent here, and I LOVE SNOW, that's the reason I go nuts when we do get it. What was the deadliest tornado in Australia?
> > Thanks, David Powell
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From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: LAT & LON Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 03:30:47 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Re: Chas Osborn:
        Hello: Lat. and Lon. for Mena is roughly slightly North of 34DEG34MIN NORTH, and slightly East of 94DEG16MIN WEST. I hope you can find it! Mena is on US Hwy. 71, 80MI South of Fort Smith and 90 or so MI North of Texarkana.(Basically in the middle of nowhere).
 Happy searching,  Have a super week,  David Powell
From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD Gales Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 18:05:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2002 08:05:42.0707 (UTC) FILETIME=[4DA1B030:01C2009E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anthony I would say that gales (approx 35kts) were sustained for several hours in three periods during the latest blast. Early hours on the 20th and again 21st and in the mid to late morning on the 20th. In between times winds dropped to about a 25- 30 kt average as forecast. These extra surges in wind speed must coincide with some form of local tightening of the pressure gradient (perhaps the passage of mini-troughs within the overall system) ????????? I would however say the leaf stripping damage on the western side of trees in my yard is the worst I can recollect for a long long time, but that could because this is also the first westerly blast in a long long time.. No branch damage around here though, only dead tree limbs etc.... Regards Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:12 AM Subject: aus-wx: SE QLD Gales > Hi all, > > It's been very windy here over the past 24hrs! More so yesterday, lots > of branches down around the area when you drive around and from various > radio reports there's been quite a few trees brought down around > Brisbane. One person was killed when a tree brought down powerlines - > the person was trying to put out a grass fire (not sure whether or not > it was produced by the powerlines or not). Ann St (major road in the > city) will be partially closed today as they have to clean off debris > that has fallen off buildings (scaffolding etc) from the strong winds. > > I've often noticed that "land gale warnings" are rarely issued in SE > QLD. With nearly every station yesterday morning reporting gusts near > 40 knots, perhaps it would have been worthwhile. Does the Bureau take > into account other factors such as the lack of insigificant storm > activity in Brisbane over the past 1-2 years which would mean that gales > could do more tree damage? (Only curious!) > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN FREQ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 18:15:16 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2002 08:15:19.0347 (UTC) FILETIME=[A555F830:01C2009F] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Arky
 
Australia is a very big place. Much of the interior is arid and this is the classical image of the outback that many overseas people have of Australia. However, most of the population is concentrated in coastal areas (predominantely the east and south east coasts and the south western coast). Surprising to many people that live overseas is that these areas can be characterised by quite high annual rainfall totals. In some places (like the north tropical east coast of Queensland - it can not only rain twice. three times and four times in a day in a day, but in a good wet season, can rain for many days on end).
 
By the way we once had a Tropical Cyclone in the Coral Sea that was called Cyclone "Mena". Although on second thoughts it could have been called TC "Meena". 
 
 
Regards
Simon
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:53 PM
Subject: aus-wx: RAIN FREQ

Hello to All:
          I was wondering, do you get reports from towns in Australia of it raining TWICE in one day? (A rain event, rain stopped/partial clearing, and another rain event the same day). This infrequently happens in Mena. Ex. on Sep. 18,2001:(Prefrontal Activity)  .50IN in an early A.M. shower, then partial clearing, then .20IN in a late P.M. thundershower. Lat. and Lon. for Mena is roughly slightly North of 34DEG34MIN NORTH, and slightly East of 94DEG16MIN WEST.
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: Fw: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 18:08:02 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com goooooood on ya phil, glad to be of help. regards RM From: Phil Smith To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:23 PM Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! > Thanks Richard and others for your helpful suggestions. > I got the ladder out tonight and went up for a look and it turned out > that my 11 year old son had turned the thermostat beyond the Coldest end > of its range to the "Test" setting and left it there. I turned it back > to the range we normally have it set at and it has been working fine for > the last hour. > It's mounted right up flush with the ceiling above the bedroom window. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "richard modistach" > To: "weather mailing list" > Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:03:17 +0930 > Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! > > > air conditioners that ice up need service by a competant refrigeration > > mechanic asap. it's caused by an incorrect thermostat cutout setting, > > the > > evaporation core ices up and the liquid refrigerant that's supposed to > > evaporate and coo the air stays liquid back to the compressor. the > > compressor is only designed to handle gas, when the liquid hits the > > compressor it stalls and a thermal current overload throws out to stop > > the > > motor from burning out.. the air conditioning fan keeps running, as the > > ice > > melts it breaks up and gets blown out. the thermostat needs to be reset > > just > > above 0 so it turns the compressor off before the core has a chance to > > ice > > up. > > > > regards RM > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tim Grugeon > > To: > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:03 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Unusual Hailstorm in Hong Kong! > > > > > > > *Sigh* > > > I wish my AC in my car would spit out ice on a very hot summers day. > > If > > > the temp hits 40, it is almost useless. > > > > > > Tina Jones wrote: > > > > > > >yep, the AC in my car used to do the same thing in very hot > > weather!!!! > > > > > > > >Just before it blew up, so be careful.... > > > > > > > > > > > >Something strange happened this morning... > > > >For several hours after midnight the air-con in our bedroom didn't > > seem > > > >to be cooling at all. > > > >Then suddenly it started crackling very loudly and showering the > > whole > > > >bedroom with small pieces of ice. > > > >This is the first time in my life that I have ever experienced an > > INDOOR > > > >HAILSTORM. > > > >Has anyone else ever heard of such a thing? > > > > > > > >Phil > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 17:35:19 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Eclipse memories - Yes! In 1976 I lived in Moonee Ponds and my wife worked for the State Electricity Commission of Victoria (SEC). I was able to get a map detailing the exact path of the eclipse and showing how long totality would be at each point. We elected to jump on the motorbike and head up the Hume Highway and then up a side road so that we could wait on a mountaintop which was exactly on the centreline of the eclipse. I have long since forgotten what the mountain was called. We got all the cameras out of the sidecar and set everything up. On one (1910 vintage) camera I took a series of multiple exposure shots from the beginning of the partial eclipse until just after totality began all on a single sheet of Ektachrome film. With the SLRs, we mainly waited until the eclipse was almost total and then took a whole bunch of shots during the totality time. Our view was frequently spoiled by clouds (that was one day we didn't want any!) but the clouds stayed away throughout the total part of the eclipse. From our perch on the mountain we could see the shadow of darkness come racing across the plains below. All of the birds raced to their nests as did all the chooks on the nearby farms. When totality finished and sunlight returned all the roosters started crowing like mad and all the birds started singing as well - the magpies nearly went mad! We watched all the lights come on in all the towns as totality approached. Then we watched them all go off again as sunlight returned. The SEC had to make special plans to wind up extra generators to take care of the huge demand for extra power. It was a tremendous thrill to be able to experience a total eclipse as any given point on the earth's surface only sees them about once in every 350+ years. I had read all the theory about them when I was a kid in school and found the whole experience so exciting my wife reckoned I was like a little kid again that day! It's certainly an experience I will never forget. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 18:03:23 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY >
>

Thanks Clyve

>

Late 1976 was an extraordinary time for 'natural phenomena' around > Central and Southern Victoria.  On Cox Plate Day, three weeks > before the Sandon event, Melbourne experienced a total eclipse.  I > lived near the zoo then, and all the creatures went off their brains > when darkness descended quickly for about 3 minutes between 4 and 5 pm > that afternoon.  The most noteworthy and memorable part of what > happened was how quickly darkness rushed across the sky as the sun was > blotted out.  One is used to the gradual fade of sunset, but on > this occasion you could actually see a band of night quickly advancing > as it took over the sky in probably less than 10 seconds.  The > most amazing sight I've ever seen.  Anyone else with eclipse > memories?

>

As for the Sandon cloud tops reaching 18,000 metres, I don't doubt > it.  A friend of mine took video of the South Coast tornado on > 26th December last.  His footage took in the cloud top, with the > requisite overshoot and 'handles', and based on an eyewitness's > estimate that the funnel was 1000 metres in height, from sea to cloud > base, the parent cloud would have been about the same height as the > Sandon event.  I'll bring the footage to the ASWA AGM, for those > who haven't seen it.

>

Michael

>
>
>From: "Clyve Herbert" >
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >
>To: >
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY >
>Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:34:45 +1000 >
> >
>Hi Michael >
>This tornado occurred on 13th November 1976, there were > at least two other tornadoes reported from central Vic on this day. The > cloud tops associated with the Sandon Tornado reached 18,500 metres!! > and was rated at F3 by the BOM (some buildings were damaged). About > 10klm to the south an amateur photographer was trying out her new Nikon > SLR, somewhere in Melbourne there may be about 50 shots of this tornado > taken from its development to its decay hidden in a cupboard. The > tornado lasted about 30 minutes and was on the ground most of this > time. One of these photographs was published in the Age I think on the > 15th November (front page).... it was a stunner... regards Clyve H. >
> ----- Original Message ----- >
> From: michael king >
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:12 AM >
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY >
> >
> >
> I'll have a go at this. There was a tornado at a place > called Sandon in Central Victoria, in November (?) 1976 which killed > two people. I'm not completely across the history of fatal tornados in > Australia, but in recent times, I'm pretty sure that this is the one > with the most fatalities. >
> >
> >
> >
> >From: "arky dave" >
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >
> >To: >
> >Subject: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY >
> >Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:51:08 -0500 >
> > >
> >Howdy All: >
> > To give you an idea of the erratic snowfall > pattern for Mena, here are some yearly SNOW totals. 1991=TRACE(flurries > on 4 days). 1992=1 1/2IN, 1993=TRACE(flurries on 3 days). > 1994=TRACE(flurries on 5 days). 1995= 6IN, 1996= 2IN, 1997= 6 3/4IN, > 1998=TRACE(flurries on 4 days), 1999=TRACE(flurries on 4 days), 2000= > 12 1/2IN, 2001=TRACE(flurries on 4 days). Snow is so infrequent here, > and I LOVE SNOW, that's the reason I go nuts when we do get it. What > was the deadliest tornado in Australia? >
> > Thanks, David Powell >
> >
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Hello David
 
Thanks for your location. In Australia 34deg south would put you on the south coast of Western Australia and basically on a line Adelaide to just south of Sydney (anyone like to comment). This would have to be close to the line of greatest tornadic activity here.
 
On two lots of rain with a clearing to sunshine in the same day, this happens here in Tasmania with a trough ahead of a cold front in the summer.
 
Chas
Strahan Tasmania
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From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:53 PM
Subject: aus-wx: RAIN FREQ

Hello to All:
          I was wondering, do you get reports from towns in Australia of it raining TWICE in one day? (A rain event, rain stopped/partial clearing, and another rain event the same day). This infrequently happens in Mena. Ex. on Sep. 18,2001:(Prefrontal Activity)  .50IN in an early A.M. shower, then partial clearing, then .20IN in a late P.M. thundershower. Lat. and Lon. for Mena is roughly slightly North of 34DEG34MIN NORTH, and slightly East of 94DEG16MIN WEST.
Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 18:26:11 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com No Dave, Victoria is definitely not tropical. The area I am talking about would be roughly 37 deg South at a guess (someone with a map like to back that up?). Often in Winter and spring you would get a heavy cloud which rains heavily, then sunny for a while, then another bank of black cloud which rains heavily again, then sunny again and so on. It can go on all day. The weather Bureau (ancestor of the BoM) would have predicted "Showery Weather" on such days. Sometimes they called it "Scattered Showers", "Frequent Showers", etc. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "arky dave" To: Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 02:45:28 -0500 Subject: aus-wx: RAIN > HI! > When Mena gets rain TWICE in one day it usually is due to > rainfall from a (Canadian or Pacific) Cold front, then rain > stops/partial clearing, then a brief shower as the vortex of the low > ("backwash" as I call it) passes close by. PHIL SMITH= Do you think > those towns in VIC get rain TWICE a day because of rainfall of a > tropical nature? What is the earliest/latest out-of-season snowfall in > Australia? As I mentioned before, Mena has had SNOW in May. Last year, > from last Spring freeze (32F/0C) to first Fall freeze, was from April > 18 to October 28. > THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR ANSWERS, INFO, & HELP! > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 20:49:00 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN FREQ Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 02:19 PM 21/05/2002 +0800, you wrote: >Yes, when I lived in Victoria, both in Melbourne and Ballaarat, it was >not all that uncommon to have it rain significantly in the morning, clear >up almost completely - sun shining brightly - and then another period of >rain later in the afternoon. Melbourne is known for "4 seasons in a day". It is not that unusual to have rain in the morning, then another system come through late in the day at certain times of the year, with a long sunny break in between. The saying here is "If you don't like the weather, wait a minute!" :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD Gales Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:00:53 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Strong winds here too yesterday and I had a lucky escape. I was driving to Sydney and just approaching Mt Ousley pass ( on the Illawarra escarpment ). I noticed that the gum tree motion in one area was indicating some very severe gusts, perhaps in excess of 60 knots. A few metres further up the road and a coal truck had a large tree branch fallen onto it. It had just occurred as the driver had just pulled off the road. Lucky the branch came down harmlessly onto the load of coal. A car may have crushed. I believe this was a freak gust aided by some funneling down a valley. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:12 AM Subject: aus-wx: SE QLD Gales > Hi all, > > It's been very windy here over the past 24hrs! More so yesterday, lots > of branches down around the area when you drive around and from various > radio reports there's been quite a few trees brought down around > Brisbane. One person was killed when a tree brought down powerlines - > the person was trying to put out a grass fire (not sure whether or not > it was produced by the powerlines or not). Ann St (major road in the > city) will be partially closed today as they have to clean off debris > that has fallen off buildings (scaffolding etc) from the strong winds. > > I've often noticed that "land gale warnings" are rarely issued in SE > QLD. With nearly every station yesterday morning reporting gusts near > 40 knots, perhaps it would have been worthwhile. Does the Bureau take > into account other factors such as the lack of insigificant storm > activity in Brisbane over the past 1-2 years which would mean that gales > could do more tree damage? (Only curious!) > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 20:52:22 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 02:45 AM 21/05/2002 -0500, you wrote: >HI! > When Mena gets rain TWICE in one day it usually is due to rainfall > from a (Canadian or Pacific) Cold front, then rain stops/partial > clearing, then a brief shower as the vortex of the low ("backwash" as I > call it) passes close by. PHIL SMITH= Do you think those towns in VIC get > rain TWICE a day because of rainfall of a tropical nature? What is the > earliest/latest out-of-season snowfall in Australia? As I mentioned > before, Mena has had SNOW in May. Last year, from last Spring freeze > (32F/0C) to first Fall freeze, was from April 18 to October 28. >THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR ANSWERS, INFO, & HELP! Earliest snow I can recall at Woodend, central Victoria (70km NW of Melbourne, 1900' elevation) was late May, and the latest was 2 weeks before Christmas (that year, the locals were joking about a White Christmas, and it almost happened!). The latter was only a few flakes - I have never seen snow settle on the ground outside the June-August winter period in that area. July would be the most likely month for snow on the ground. There is usually one, maybe two days per year when the snow settles up there. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 20:58:00 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 05:35 PM 21/05/2002 +0800, you wrote: >Eclipse memories - Yes! >In 1976 I lived in Moonee Ponds and my wife worked for the State >Electricity Commission of Victoria (SEC). I was 8 when the eclipse happened, and lived in Woodend (up in the hills north of Melbourne). As I was heavily into astronomy, I was anticipating this event for weeks, and had a sheet setup on the ground as a projection screen. Unfortunately, the cloud let things down a bit, but the eclipse was still a very memorable occasion. I would love to see another total eclipse, but looks like Il'll have to travel for that privilege this time around. :-/ 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:02:28 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:26 PM 21/05/2002 +0800, you wrote: >No Dave, Victoria is definitely not tropical. The area I am talking >about would be roughly 37 deg South at a guess (someone with a map like >to Melbourne is around 37 45'S, 145 degrees East. I can provide much more accurate coordinates from my satellite tracking siftware, if needed. :-) The other area mentioned would be around 37 30'S and 143-144 East. >back that up?). Often in Winter and spring you would get a heavy cloud >which rains heavily, then sunny for a while, then another bank of black >cloud which rains heavily again, then sunny again and so on. It can go >on all day. The weather Bureau (ancestor of the BoM) would have >predicted "Showery Weather" on such days. Sometimes they called >it "Scattered Showers", "Frequent Showers", etc. Even discounting showers, it's not unusual to get rain at each end of the day. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:11:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Earliest / latest snowfalls is an interesting issue Dave. I said before that the southern ocean modifies the climate. I should really say that the lack of a continental land mass in high latitudes is the issue. This may make winter fronts milder, but also allows for some stronger summer fronts to actually bring genuine snow in summer at altitudes where in the USA it has never snowed in summer. For example Tasmania has seen Christmas Day falls  down to 4000-5000ft. This is like snow on the 25th June in the USA.
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:45 PM
Subject: aus-wx: RAIN

HI!
      When Mena gets rain TWICE in one day it usually is due to rainfall from a (Canadian or Pacific) Cold front, then rain stops/partial clearing, then a brief shower as the vortex of the low ("backwash" as I call it) passes close by. PHIL SMITH= Do you think those towns in VIC get rain TWICE a day because of rainfall of a tropical nature? What is the earliest/latest out-of-season snowfall in Australia? As I mentioned before, Mena has had SNOW in May. Last year, from last Spring freeze (32F/0C) to first Fall freeze, was from April 18 to October 28.
THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR ANSWERS, INFO, & HELP!
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Despite my conservatism I agree 100%, it is just a matter of time.
 
Michael
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I think we have been very fortunate in Oz that no really significant tornado has hit a major population centre - but it is only a matter of time...
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:24 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: TORNADOES

Hello Again:
        Since 1950, there have been 960 reported twisters in Arkansas, resulting in 328 deaths. The most tornadoes reported was 55 in Pulaski County, least reported was 4 in Scott County. White County had the most deaths with 59, several Ark. counties have no deaths. Polk Co.= 19 twisters, 1 death. The worst Ark. twister hit the town of Greenwood (Sebastian County) in 1968, I believe there were 11 deaths. On Nov. 13, 1993, a twister went through Mena(I didn't see it, but I did hear the warning siren). Thankfully the funnel lifted before it got to the hospital. I've heard the funnel never touched the ground, but from looking at damage, I find that hard to believe). Miraculously, NO ONE was killed and only about 30 injured. Abt. $7 MIL in damage. No damage where I live. Ark. had an estimated 38 twisters on Jan. 21, 1999; which is a U.S. record for twisters in one state in one day.
See ya'll later;  David Powell
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 23:28:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2002 13:29:42.0533 (UTC) FILETIME=[90ABBB50:01C200CB] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tony. I was in Ballarat which apparently was the centre of maximum full eclipse I believe about 3 minutes and about 46 seconds, Woodend would have been close to maximum time for the eclipse also, at Ballarat I recorded a 3 degree temp drop just after the eclipse!. regards Clyve H ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Langdon (VK3JED) To: Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:58 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY > At 05:35 PM 21/05/2002 +0800, you wrote: > > >Eclipse memories - Yes! > >In 1976 I lived in Moonee Ponds and my wife worked for the State > >Electricity Commission of Victoria (SEC). > > I was 8 when the eclipse happened, and lived in Woodend (up in the hills > north of Melbourne). As I was heavily into astronomy, I was anticipating > this event for weeks, and had a sheet setup on the ground as a projection > screen. > > Unfortunately, the cloud let things down a bit, but the eclipse was still a > very memorable occasion. I would love to see another total eclipse, but > looks like Il'll have to travel for that privilege this time around. :-/ > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 23:23:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2002 13:25:24.0229 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6B5AB50:01C200CA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Stormsurfer.
I think last Christmas/Boxing day (2001) snow fell across Tasmania down to 2500ft (briefly) this occasion also saw snow across the Victorian Alps down to 4000ft, during the first week of December there were good falls of snow over Tasmania and Victoria as low as 3500feet. regards Clyve H.
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Earliest / latest snowfalls is an interesting issue Dave. I said before that the southern ocean modifies the climate. I should really say that the lack of a continental land mass in high latitudes is the issue. This may make winter fronts milder, but also allows for some stronger summer fronts to actually bring genuine snow in summer at altitudes where in the USA it has never snowed in summer. For example Tasmania has seen Christmas Day falls  down to 4000-5000ft. This is like snow on the 25th June in the USA.
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From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:45 PM
Subject: aus-wx: RAIN

HI!
      When Mena gets rain TWICE in one day it usually is due to rainfall from a (Canadian or Pacific) Cold front, then rain stops/partial clearing, then a brief shower as the vortex of the low ("backwash" as I call it) passes close by. PHIL SMITH= Do you think those towns in VIC get rain TWICE a day because of rainfall of a tropical nature? What is the earliest/latest out-of-season snowfall in Australia? As I mentioned before, Mena has had SNOW in May. Last year, from last Spring freeze (32F/0C) to first Fall freeze, was from April 18 to October 28.
THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR ANSWERS, INFO, & HELP!
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Regards to All:
         Mena's avg. wettest month is May= 6.40IN; avg. driest months are January & August= 2.70IN. For 2001: Jan. avg. max.= 47.7F, ang. min.= 26.6F. July avg. max. 93.2F, avg. min.= 70.7F. Mena had rain on 6 CONSECUTIVE days (a rare happening for length) from Feb. 11 to 16th, 2001 (Tot. rain= 6.75"). The lowest max. in recent memory was 12F on Dec. 22, 1989, the lowest min. is -9F on Dec. 23, 1989. Mena's temps stayed BELOW FREEZING from the evening of Dec.19 to the afternoon of Dec. 25--a true ARCTIC outbreak! What are some of the biggest temp. drops that ya'll know of?   Have a good one! David Powell
X-Originating-IP: [203.36.248.12] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 09:31:01 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2002 23:31:01.0197 (UTC) FILETIME=[913AF7D0:01C2011F] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, I have some info on Sandon on my website: http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/manchester/4/f/sandon.html Cheers, Kevin from Wycheproof. >From: "Clyve Herbert" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY >Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:34:45 +1000 > >Hi Michael >This tornado occurred on 13th November 1976, there were at least two other >tornadoes reported from central Vic on this day. The cloud tops associated >with the Sandon Tornado reached 18,500 metres!! and was rated at F3 by the >BOM (some buildings were damaged). About 10klm to the south an amateur >photographer was trying out her new Nikon SLR, somewhere in Melbourne there >may be about 50 shots of this tornado taken from its development to its >decay hidden in a cupboard. The tornado lasted about 30 minutes and was on >the ground most of this time. One of these photographs was published in the >Age I think on the 15th November (front page).... it was a stunner... >regards Clyve H. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: michael king > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:12 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY > > > I'll have a go at this. There was a tornado at a place called Sandon in >Central Victoria, in November (?) 1976 which killed two people. I'm not >completely across the history of fatal tornados in Australia, but in recent >times, I'm pretty sure that this is the one with the most fatalities. > > > > >From: "arky dave" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: > >Subject: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY > >Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:51:08 -0500 > > > >Howdy All: > > To give you an idea of the erratic snowfall pattern for Mena, here are >some yearly SNOW totals. 1991=TRACE(flurries on 4 days). 1992=1 1/2IN, >1993=TRACE(flurries on 3 days). 1994=TRACE(flurries on 5 days). 1995= 6IN, >1996= 2IN, 1997= 6 3/4IN, 1998=TRACE(flurries on 4 days), >1999=TRACE(flurries on 4 days), 2000= 12 1/2IN, 2001=TRACE(flurries on 4 >days). Snow is so infrequent here, and I LOVE SNOW, that's the reason I go >nuts when we do get it. What was the deadliest tornado in Australia? > > Thanks, David Powell > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: HEAVY RAIN Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 20:24:18 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello and Good Evening:
       I will try to also use metric readings in my reports.(sorry, if I disoriented anyone). I was wondering: EXCLUDING cyclone(hurricane) events, what's the heaviest day's rain for towns in Australia? I know of at least 2 instances of 10IN(254mm) of rain in a day. The days were Oct. 31, 1972 and Oct. 7, 1990. Fortunately, our topography is such that there is no prolonged flooding. The usual damage being washed-out culverts and small bridges on county roads. We call heavy rain "gully washers" or "toad stranglers". P.S. On my conversions to mm, should I divide by the full 0.03937 OR just divide by 0.03?  Thanks,  David Powell
From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:31:37 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
And I have seen snow lying at 1500ft in Otago(New Zealand) in late December, and sleet at sealevel in late April. 
Steven W
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Earliest / latest snowfalls is an interesting issue Dave. I said before that the southern ocean modifies the climate. I should really say that the lack of a continental land mass in high latitudes is the issue. This may make winter fronts milder, but also allows for some stronger summer fronts to actually bring genuine snow in summer at altitudes where in the USA it has never snowed in summer. For example Tasmania has seen Christmas Day falls  down to 4000-5000ft. This is like snow on the 25th June in the USA.
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:45 PM
Subject: aus-wx: RAIN

HI!
      When Mena gets rain TWICE in one day it usually is due to rainfall from a (Canadian or Pacific) Cold front, then rain stops/partial clearing, then a brief shower as the vortex of the low ("backwash" as I call it) passes close by. PHIL SMITH= Do you think those towns in VIC get rain TWICE a day because of rainfall of a tropical nature? What is the earliest/latest out-of-season snowfall in Australia? As I mentioned before, Mena has had SNOW in May. Last year, from last Spring freeze (32F/0C) to first Fall freeze, was from April 18 to October 28.
THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR ANSWERS, INFO, & HELP!
From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: HEAVY RAIN To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 11:51:01 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C20105.7BD64760 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hello and Good Evening: > I will try to also use metric readings in my reports.(sorry, if I = > disoriented anyone). I was wondering: EXCLUDING cyclone(hurricane) = > events, what's the heaviest day's rain for towns in Australia? I know of = > at least 2 instances of 10IN(254mm) of rain in a day. The days were Oct. = > 31, 1972 and Oct. 7, 1990. Fortunately, our topography is such that = > there is no prolonged flooding. The usual damage being washed-out = > culverts and small bridges on county roads. We call heavy rain "gully = > washers" or "toad stranglers". P.S. On my conversions to mm, should I = > divide by the full 0.03937 OR just divide by 0.03? Thanks, David = > Powell It depends a lot on location and local topography - Australia is a big country! There are numerous cases on and near the east coast of non-cyclone rainfalls exceeding 500mm (~20 inches) in a day. A site in Sydney got something like 540mm in a day in 1844. The Australian record is over 900, but that was in a cyclone. Away from the east coast it is a different story. Melbourne, Adelaide, Canberra and Perth all have records in the low 100s. (In Adelaide's case this was from a single severe thunderstorm). As far as the conversion goes, 1 inch = 25.4mm (exactly), but 25mm (or 1mm ~ 0.04 inch) will do as an approximation. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:17:14 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
'Evening All:
        I was wondering why some places listed on the Sig Wx Summary are not found by the AUSLIG place-name search. Ex. The Glebe, QLD; Riveren, NT; Yarradagee,WA; Devoncourt Station, QLD; Mudall,NSW and a multitude of other places. Is The Glebe a ship? Are these places so new that they've not been entered into the AUSLIG index? I hope this is not an insanely stupid question, but does Australia have frequent occurrences of WARM FRONTS? They are fairly common here.(A weak Pacific front will come through, become stationary to our south, and return over us as a warm front). THANKS! David Powell
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HOWDY:
       This is an update on the Nov. 13, 1993 Mena tornado.(some saw 2 funnels). The twister touched down near Cove 20MI(33.2KM) southwest, the storm roughly followed US Hwy 71, passing through Hatfield, before hitting Mena at 5:15 P.M. The storm was 3 blocks wide through town. County damage estimates were ab. $3.5 MIL. In Mena, 15-20 businesses were damaged or destroyed; 18 homes damaged, 2 destroyed. (One house destroyed when flattened by twin 400-yr. old Oak trees).Storm took out about half the trees in Janssen Park(which is 2 blocks square). The 1851-built log cabin in the park was unroofed. With this limited info, what kind of an F Rating would you put on this storm? THANKS, David Powell
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Assuming the significant weather summary comes from the BoM (shows how little I know) I'd imagine that some of the BoM's reporting stations are too small to rate a mention on AUSLIG.  Disparity in relation to locations, localities etc, between Government Departments (in this instance BoM and AUSLIG) is something that is common to bureaucracies all over the world.  I recall three years ago, Blair and his Civil Service in Britain started talking about 'joined up Government', so that different Departments would work more closely togethe.  With three levels of Government here, I think joined up Government is about as likely as snow in Kakadu.

Warm fronts are not common here.  I remember as as child staring at a synoptic chart wondering why they even bothered to have warm fronts in the 'key'.  It's a good question Arky why they seem more common in the States than Australia.  Wonder if it has anything to do with the strong maratime influence to the south in Australia.  Or does it say more about the comparative temperatures of oceans and land masses, in the area where warm fronts originate.  Mental note: must go to my texts and find the answer!

>From: "arky dave"
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>To:
>Subject: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT
>Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:17:14 -0500
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>'Evening All:
> I was wondering why some places listed on the Sig Wx Summary are not found by the AUSLIG place-name search. Ex. The Glebe, QLD; Riveren, NT; Yarradagee,WA; Devoncourt Station, QLD; Mudall,NSW and a multitude of other places. Is The Glebe a ship? Are these places so new that they've not been entered into the AUSLIG index? I hope this is not an insanely stupid question, but does Australia have frequent occurrences of WARM FRONTS? They are fairly common here.(A weak Pacific front will come through, become stationary to our south, and return over us as a warm front). THANKS! David Powell


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From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: SNOW IN NORTH Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 01:23:19 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
It's Me Again:
        I was wondering where was the farthest north that SNOW has been reported in Australia? I was also wondering about how much SNOW Mt. Kosciusko gets? The WARM FRONTS that we get sometimes are bigger rain producers than the cold fronts that they started out as. It is certainly strange to watch the temperature actually GOING UP at night. Has Australia been spared from a cyclone by a front/steering winds that push the storm away from land? The US has been spared from a number of hurricanes by cold fronts causing the storm to recurve before it hits land.   Have a good one! David Powell
From: Tim Eckert To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [203.220.183.54] Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 16:57:15 +1000 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW IN NORTH Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dave, I'm enjoying all your posts, some quite interesting information - but I hope you are getting some work done!! As for the 'snow in north' question, there was a discussion on here not long ago about it. From memory, the furthest north recorded was inland from Mackay in Queensland. I stand corrected though. And from my memory I can't actually recall seeing a warm front touch the mainland although they do appear south of the Continent at times. Again I may be wrong. Tim. Original message from: "arky dave"
It's Me Again:
        I was wondering where was the farthest north that SNOW has been reported in Australia? I was also wondering about how much SNOW Mt. Kosciusko gets? The WARM FRONTS that we get sometimes are bigger rain producers than the cold fronts that they started out as. It is certainly strange to watch the temperature actually GOING UP at night. Has Australia been spared from a cyclone by a front/steering winds that push the storm away from land? The US has been spared from a number of hurricanes by cold fronts causing the storm to recurve before it hits land.   Have a good one! David Powell
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Assuming the significant weather summary comes from the BoM (shows how little I know) I'd imagine that some of the BoM's reporting stations are too small to rate a mention on AUSLIG.  Disparity in relation to locations, localities etc, between Government Departments (in this instance BoM and AUSLIG) is something that is common to bureaucracies all over the world.  I recall three years ago, Blair and his Civil Service in Britain started talking about 'joined up Government', so that different Departments would work more closely togethe.  With three levels of Government here, I think joined up Government is about as likely as snow in Kakadu.

I looked at this and thought at first glance that you were expecting me to do something about it :-) Blair (who has a 'BLAIR ROMPS HOME' poster from the 'Herald-Sun' of 2 May 1997 on the side of his office cubicle) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:49:40 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My understanding is that the Auslig index is retricted to officially gazetted place names. Many BoM AWS stations are located in the wilderness or on homesteads or whatever, ie, places that although they may have names, are not necessarily officially geographically gazetted place names. You can get a full list of BoM stations at ftp://ftp.bom.gov.au/anon2/home/ncc/metadata/sitelists/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:50:09 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2002 07:50:09.0766 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BF7F060:01C20165] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

No you don't have to Blair, but if you could provide a definition of the third way or even the second or first way, I'd be grateful.

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>Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:33:04 +1000 (EST)
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Assuming the significant weather summary comes from the BoM (shows how little I know) I'd imagine that some of the BoM's reporting stations are too small to rate a mention on AUSLIG.  Disparity in relation to locations, localities etc, between Government Departments (in this instance BoM and AUSLIG) is something that is common to bureaucracies all over the world.  I recall three years ago, Blair and his Civil Service in Britain started talking about 'joined up Government', so that different Departments would work more closely togethe.  With three levels of Government here, I think joined up Government is about as likely as snow in Kakadu.

>
>I looked at this and thought at first glance that you were expecting
>me to do something about it :-)
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>Blair
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>1997 on the side of his office cubicle)
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From: "Ashton H Anderson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 18:00:53 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Well I'm confused now...are you the PM or not Blair ?
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> <P><BR><BR>Assuming the significant weather summary comes from the BoM (shows how little I know) I'd imagine that some of the BoM's reporting stations are too small to rate a mention on AUSLIG.&nbsp; Disparity&nbsp;in relation to&nbsp;locations, localities etc, between Government Departments (in this instance&nbsp;BoM and AUSLIG) is something that is common to bureaucracies all over the world.&nbsp; I recall three years ago, Blair and his Civil Service in Britain started talking about 'joined up Government', so that different Departments would work more closely togethe.&nbsp; With three levels of Government here, I think joined up Government is about as likely as snow in Kakadu.</P>

I looked at this and thought at first glance that you were expecting
me to do something about it :-)

Blair

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1997 on the side of his office cubicle)
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From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:42:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2002 07:42:43.0521 (UTC) FILETIME=[41FC5B10:01C20164] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com lol, i thought that also and thought it was a little odd, read over it 4 times before i figured it was the british PM. lol Cheers --------------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------- This Email is virus free. Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. Virus definition file 09-05-2002. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blair Trewin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 5:33 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT > > > >
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Assuming the significant weather summary comes from the BoM (shows how little I know) I'd imagine that some of the BoM's reporting stations are too small to rate a mention on AUSLIG.  Disparity in relation to locations, localities etc, between Government Departments (in this instance BoM and AUSLIG) is something that is common to bureaucracies all over the world.  I recall three years ago, Blair and his Civil Service in Britain started talking about 'joined up Government', so that different Departments would work more closely togethe.  With three levels of Government here, I think joined up Government is about as likely as snow in Kakadu.

> > I looked at this and thought at first glance that you were expecting > me to do something about it :-) > > Blair > > (who has a 'BLAIR ROMPS HOME' poster from the 'Herald-Sun' of 2 May > 1997 on the side of his office cubicle) > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 18:20:30 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: SNOW FREQUENCY Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 11:28 PM 21/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Tony. >I was in Ballarat which apparently was the centre of maximum full eclipse I >believe about 3 minutes and about 46 seconds, Woodend would have been close >to maximum time for the eclipse also, at Ballarat I recorded a 3 degree temp >drop just after the eclipse!. regards Clyve H Woodend is at a similar latitude (slightly north) of Ballarat, but the eclipse track was probably heading north of east at that time of day, putting the two places in line. I didn't have a thermometer at the time, so can't offer any temperature data. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 18:31:06 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:17 PM 21/05/2002 -0500, you wrote: new that they've not been entered into the AUSLIG index? I hope this is not an insanely stupid question, but does Australia have frequent occurrences of WARM FRONTS? They are fairly common here.(A weak Pacific front will come through, become stationary to our south, and return over us as a warm front). THANKS! David Powell No, warm fronts are quite rare here. They tend to occur over the Southern Ocean, well south of the Australian land mass. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: ABOUT ME Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 03:54:08 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Folks:
          For Tim Eckert and everyone else: NO, I'm one of those lucky souls that doesn't work. The colitis in my intestines and ankylosing spondylitis (calcium deposits) in my neck, arthritis in shoulders, knees, etc. pretty well keep me from gainful employment. Now before I make ya'll cry, the colitis seems to be in remission, I am able to get around(drive); and I'm a lot luckier than other folks. I am 41, live with my widowed mother, and fill my time with yardwork, gardening, helping Mom around the house. I love to read, I collect railroad books/videos, keep up on the wx, and communicate with you wonderful people! I love just about all sports.(ESPN used to show Australian Rules Football--I really enjoyed it; if I stay up late enough I can watch rugby.) I try to keep busy with hobbies etc; so I think of my disability as a minor inconvenience. Well, I hope I haven't bored you! Have a "ripper" of a week. C-U Later. David Powell
From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ABOUT ME Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 19:03:26 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
2 blokes on here are train drivers. Hang on. No, make that one. Grin :-)
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Hello Folks:
          For Tim Eckert and everyone else: NO, I'm one of those lucky souls that doesn't work. The colitis in my intestines and ankylosing spondylitis (calcium deposits) in my neck, arthritis in shoulders, knees, etc. pretty well keep me from gainful employment. Now before I make ya'll cry, the colitis seems to be in remission, I am able to get around(drive); and I'm a lot luckier than other folks. I am 41, live with my widowed mother, and fill my time with yardwork, gardening, helping Mom around the house. I love to read, I collect railroad books/videos, keep up on the wx, and communicate with you wonderful people! I love just about all sports.(ESPN used to show Australian Rules Football--I really enjoyed it; if I stay up late enough I can watch rugby.) I try to keep busy with hobbies etc; so I think of my disability as a minor inconvenience. Well, I hope I haven't bored you! Have a "ripper" of a week. C-U Later. David Powell
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 21:08:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thanks Clyve, I was unsure of the actual altitude so played conservative. Did you get any interesting weather from this last system. Only strong winds here, but just a little brief rain on Monday morning, which had it not cleared may have led to a record low maxima for May in Wollongong / Sydney.
 
Michael
 
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Hi Stormsurfer.
I think last Christmas/Boxing day (2001) snow fell across Tasmania down to 2500ft (briefly) this occasion also saw snow across the Victorian Alps down to 4000ft, during the first week of December there were good falls of snow over Tasmania and Victoria as low as 3500feet. regards Clyve H.
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Earliest / latest snowfalls is an interesting issue Dave. I said before that the southern ocean modifies the climate. I should really say that the lack of a continental land mass in high latitudes is the issue. This may make winter fronts milder, but also allows for some stronger summer fronts to actually bring genuine snow in summer at altitudes where in the USA it has never snowed in summer. For example Tasmania has seen Christmas Day falls  down to 4000-5000ft. This is like snow on the 25th June in the USA.
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:45 PM
Subject: aus-wx: RAIN

HI!
      When Mena gets rain TWICE in one day it usually is due to rainfall from a (Canadian or Pacific) Cold front, then rain stops/partial clearing, then a brief shower as the vortex of the low ("backwash" as I call it) passes close by. PHIL SMITH= Do you think those towns in VIC get rain TWICE a day because of rainfall of a tropical nature? What is the earliest/latest out-of-season snowfall in Australia? As I mentioned before, Mena has had SNOW in May. Last year, from last Spring freeze (32F/0C) to first Fall freeze, was from April 18 to October 28.
THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR ANSWERS, INFO, & HELP!
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: HEAVY RAIN Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 21:23:50 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Dave. My hometown also at 34" latitude ( South, not North ) generally has mild weather with no great extremes. It's one claim to fame however is some extraprdinary rain events. The most memorable was around 800mm ( 32ins ) recorded in 18 hours ( not 100% sure ) on the escarpment. There have been a number of 300mm ( 12ins ) plus 24 hour readings throughout the Illawarra.
 
You can read a report of one such event at http://ozthunder.com/diary/w98.htm
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:24 AM
Subject: aus-wx: HEAVY RAIN

Hello and Good Evening:
       I will try to also use metric readings in my reports.(sorry, if I disoriented anyone). I was wondering: EXCLUDING cyclone(hurricane) events, what's the heaviest day's rain for towns in Australia? I know of at least 2 instances of 10IN(254mm) of rain in a day. The days were Oct. 31, 1972 and Oct. 7, 1990. Fortunately, our topography is such that there is no prolonged flooding. The usual damage being washed-out culverts and small bridges on county roads. We call heavy rain "gully washers" or "toad stranglers". P.S. On my conversions to mm, should I divide by the full 0.03937 OR just divide by 0.03?  Thanks,  David Powell
From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ABOUT ME Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 21:18:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Um, Bussy - train driving is like weather passion - once a driver always a driver, once a weather nut, always a weather nut.
 
from,
 
a weather nut......

--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com
 
Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com
 
ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
--------------------------------
 
 
 

 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:03 PM
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2 blokes on here are train drivers. Hang on. No, make that one. Grin :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: aus-wx: ABOUT ME

Hello Folks:
          For Tim Eckert and everyone else: NO, I'm one of those lucky souls that doesn't work. The colitis in my intestines and ankylosing spondylitis (calcium deposits) in my neck, arthritis in shoulders, knees, etc. pretty well keep me from gainful employment. Now before I make ya'll cry, the colitis seems to be in remission, I am able to get around(drive); and I'm a lot luckier than other folks. I am 41, live with my widowed mother, and fill my time with yardwork, gardening, helping Mom around the house. I love to read, I collect railroad books/videos, keep up on the wx, and communicate with you wonderful people! I love just about all sports.(ESPN used to show Australian Rules Football--I really enjoyed it; if I stay up late enough I can watch rugby.) I try to keep busy with hobbies etc; so I think of my disability as a minor inconvenience. Well, I hope I haven't bored you! Have a "ripper" of a week. C-U Later. David Powell
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 21:49:29 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: ABOUT ME Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:18 PM 22/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Um, Bussy - train driving is like weather passion - once a driver always a >driver, once a weather nut, always a weather nut. Hrmm, a lot of things are like that... ;-) I've been a weather nut since I was a kid, myself... 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Upper cold pool Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 22:09:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, There's an area of vorticity apparent in the upper levels west of Tasmania which appears to be related to the upper cloud patch to the east of Tasmania at the same latitude, and this appears to be a westward extension of the cloud area that came around and grabbed onto the east coast of Tasmania today. Looks like it's being pushed north by an upper ridge - will be interesting to see if & how it interacts with the upper moisture over the Bight. Thoughts? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 00:44:01 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: ABOUT ME From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20011031 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: ABOUT ME Whats wrong with sitting inside 3 and a half thousand horses?
Or a lot more behind you for that matter ;)~




From: "Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 21:18:49 +1000
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Um, Bussy - train driving is like weather passion - once a driver always a driver, once a weather nut, always a weather nut.

from,

a weather nut......

--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
--------------------------------





----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy <mailto:bussie at netc.net.au>  
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:03 PM
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2 blokes on here are train drivers. Hang on. No, make that one. Grin :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave <mailto:dajapo at voltage.net>  
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: aus-wx: ABOUT ME

Hello Folks:
         For Tim Eckert and everyone else: NO, I'm one of those lucky souls that doesn't work. The colitis in my intestines and ankylosing spondylitis (calcium deposits) in my neck, arthritis in shoulders, knees, etc. pretty well keep me from gainful employment. Now before I make ya'll cry, the colitis seems to be in remission, I am able to get around(drive); and I'm a lot luckier than other folks. I am 41, live with my widowed mother, and fill my time with yardwork, gardening, helping Mom around the house. I love to read, I collect railroad books/videos, keep up on the wx, and communicate with you wonderful people! I love just about all sports.(ESPN used to show Australian Rules Football--I really enjoyed it; if I stay up late enough I can watch rugby.) I try to keep busy with hobbies etc; so I think of my disability as a minor inconvenience. Well, I hope I haven't bored you! Have a "ripper" of a week. C-U Later. David Powell


From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: NZ Tornadoes Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 07:04:25 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thunderstorms in NZ yesterday produced tornadoes in Taranaki with some property damage. One house
is reported to have been set on fire by lightning. More storms are expected today particularly on the
South Islands West Coast and in the Taranaki region.
Steven Williams
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: RAIN REPORTS Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 16:13:35 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello to Everyone:
        THANKS for the Heavy Rain articles. I was wondering if your proximity to the ocean would enhance these rain totals? The heavy rain events that I mentioned in Mena were due to an excrucially slow-moving stationary front. I was wondering: what was the most screwed-up(inaccurate) weather forecast that you'd heard of. My favorite one for Mena happened on May 2,1994, the forecast high for Mena was around 65F(18.3C), due to fog and heavy rain the high was actually 45F(7.2C), while we were getting pounded with 2.33IN (59.1mm) of rain. (I and my 2 best friends, Ronnie & Donnie Pearce, played games of horseshoes in the downpour).
   Have an awesome day.  David Powell
X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN REPORTS Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:56:25 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2002 22:56:25.0987 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6B8CD30:01C201E3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Certainly proximity to the ocean is the main factor in high rainfall averages in Australia.  In some ways it would be an interesting exercise to say remove the outer 100 kms of coast and look at what parts of the rest of Australia have the highest rainfall.  It would probably be the the north of the Northern Territory and that is caused by the monsoon (which when taken back to first principles is caused by maratime/continental differences anyway!)

As for the most inaccurate (as measured by temperature differentials between forecast and actual) weather forecasts, my guess is that these would be mistakes of timing rather than completely missing the occurence of an event.  And I'd say that these occur around Melbourne, in summer with forecasts pertaining to the onset of a cold front.  Max temps associated with heat wave before the front can be up to low 40 degrees Celsius, while after the cold front they might be between 15 and 20 degrees celsius.  So if the BoM gets the timing wrong, then forecast can look pretty inaccurate.

>From: "arky dave"
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>To:
>Subject: aus-wx: RAIN REPORTS
>Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 16:13:35 -0500
>
>Hello to Everyone:
> THANKS for the Heavy Rain articles. I was wondering if your proximity to the ocean would enhance these rain totals? The heavy rain events that I mentioned in Mena were due to an excrucially slow-moving stationary front. I was wondering: what was the most screwed-up(inaccurate) weather forecast that you'd heard of. My favorite one for Mena happened on May 2,1994, the forecast high for Mena was around 65F(18.3C), due to fog and heavy rain the high was actually 45F(7.2C), while we were getting pounded with 2.33IN (59.1mm) of rain. (I and my 2 best friends, Ronnie & Donnie Pearce, played games of horseshoes in the downpour).
> Have an awesome day. David Powell


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X-Originating-IP: [203.36.248.12] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Warm Fronts... Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:07:56 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2002 00:07:56.0601 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4208A90:01C201ED] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, I distinctly recall a warm front being analysed on the synoptic chart during my first year of Met. at Melbourne Uni. It was sometime in September 1979 and was analysed as a warm front for three days or so. It produced medium rain (as I recall) over a two day period. Anyone with better memories or access to old synopcharts may be better able to pinpoint the date. That's the last one I recall being analysed although there may have been some since... Kevin from Wycheproof. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: 'Summer type synoptic" Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:45:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2002 23:47:08.0253 (UTC) FILETIME=[FC0DC0D0:01C201EA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
A quick glance at the Australian synoptic chart today and you may be tricked into thinking it was summer not late May, also the pressure gradient over most of the continent is one of the weakest I have seen for awhile hardly any isobars sorry hectopasklebars, although all or most of the activity is in the upper layers across SA and western NSW. regards Clyve Herbert.
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:34:06 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2002 23:35:32.0585 (UTC) FILETIME=[5D673D90:01C201E9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi stormsurfer.
Over the several days of activity from the developing low I saw some very photogenic cold air CBs, mostly off shore over Bass Strait (water temp about 17c), on one evening a few flashes of lightning and the odd rumble, although one downpour gave me 5mm in 5 minutes I have received about 28mm over the whole event which is a little disappointing after almost 3 months of well below average falls. It seems the core of colder air channelled through the Adelaide region and then carried by the strong west east gradient into central NSW with the snow line getting close to 600m for a brief spell. At one point the 500hpa temp over Melbourne was about -28c, not bad!, The low when it drifted into the Tasman developed several 'Ankle biters' small satellite vorticity points around the main parent low, one of which came ashore just east of Melbourne and at one stage developed a small central clear area about 50klm wide with an eye characteristic (just off the north west cast of Tasmania). regards Clyve Herbert.
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Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 9:08 PM
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Thanks Clyve, I was unsure of the actual altitude so played conservative. Did you get any interesting weather from this last system. Only strong winds here, but just a little brief rain on Monday morning, which had it not cleared may have led to a record low maxima for May in Wollongong / Sydney.
 
Michael
 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:23 PM
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Hi Stormsurfer.
I think last Christmas/Boxing day (2001) snow fell across Tasmania down to 2500ft (briefly) this occasion also saw snow across the Victorian Alps down to 4000ft, during the first week of December there were good falls of snow over Tasmania and Victoria as low as 3500feet. regards Clyve H.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN

Earliest / latest snowfalls is an interesting issue Dave. I said before that the southern ocean modifies the climate. I should really say that the lack of a continental land mass in high latitudes is the issue. This may make winter fronts milder, but also allows for some stronger summer fronts to actually bring genuine snow in summer at altitudes where in the USA it has never snowed in summer. For example Tasmania has seen Christmas Day falls  down to 4000-5000ft. This is like snow on the 25th June in the USA.
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:45 PM
Subject: aus-wx: RAIN

HI!
      When Mena gets rain TWICE in one day it usually is due to rainfall from a (Canadian or Pacific) Cold front, then rain stops/partial clearing, then a brief shower as the vortex of the low ("backwash" as I call it) passes close by. PHIL SMITH= Do you think those towns in VIC get rain TWICE a day because of rainfall of a tropical nature? What is the earliest/latest out-of-season snowfall in Australia? As I mentioned before, Mena has had SNOW in May. Last year, from last Spring freeze (32F/0C) to first Fall freeze, was from April 18 to October 28.
THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR ANSWERS, INFO, & HELP!
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: 'Summer type synoptic" Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:47:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Maybe, but no tricks here.  A quick glance outside in SEQ this morning confirmed instantly that it was actually mid-August.  Very dry, cold, 0/8 cloud , single digit temp, and light westerly blowing - being the 5th day of successive westerly's, which at times have reached gale force.  Winter weather has indeed come very early to this part of the world.
 
John.
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Clyve Herbert
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:46 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: 'Summer type synoptic"

Hi all.
A quick glance at the Australian synoptic chart today and you may be tricked into thinking it was summer not late May, also the pressure gradient over most of the continent is one of the weakest I have seen for awhile hardly any isobars sorry hectopasklebars, although all or most of the activity is in the upper layers across SA and western NSW. regards Clyve Herbert.
X-Sender: hdewit at mail.sa.bom.gov.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:11:14 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Hank de Wit Subject: aus-wx: Adelaide Tornado Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I've collected some of the information concerning the tornado that hit the eastern suburbs of Adelaide on the 18th. There is just a track and some damage photo's at the moment, but in time I will try to add more as information is provided. I'm not directly in the forecasting area so my knowledge to the meteorological circumstances is a bit vague. The storm that produced the tornado was on the wind change at the back edge of the main cloud band. The storm was part of a strong squall line, on the wind change. For the tornado track, there is a distinct drift to the left of the main direction at points 3, 4, and 5. The most severe stripping of trees occurred at points 4-5, and 7-8. Most of the damage is consistent with F0 intensity but the complete stripping of foliage and small branches from trees at 4-5, and 7 indicate F1 intensity at those points. I did have a quick squizz at the damage path on Monday which was a public holiday in SA, so there had been little official clean-up. At the norther edge of Parkinson Oval a night light had been knocked over. It did show rust at the base, so it was probably weak anyway. The fence bent over in the same park (seen in one of the photo's) was caused by the wind alone. None of the broken branches had fallen on it. On the center pole the wire mesh showed some stretching at the points of attachment. In the small park at point 12 on the map a gum tree was snapped off near the base. However examination of the break showed that there was a pre-existing weakness along the break point. This area often suffers from strong gully winds but these usually blow from the east or south-east. The map and pictures can be found at: http://www.sa.bom.gov.au/~hdewit/burnside_tornado/ I was also told there was another tornado north of Adelaide and another more significant one at Coulta on the Lower Eyre Peninsula. Cheers Hank +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nandina at pop.alphalink.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:35:01 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Nandina Morris Subject: Re: aus-wx: ABOUT ME Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 03:54 AM 5/22/02 -0500, you wrote: >Hello Folks: Hello David - so glad to meet another on this list of vigorous storm chasers and whatever else. I can probably outmatch you if I try, but I won't. My car is my salvation, and is still running, we are competing to see who crumples to the ground first. Being in touch with the natural world is one of my strategies, hence my weather list membership. I am also heavily into genealogy (63 - no, 64 in a week, time flies). I reckon it's all about management - not only strategies, but managing your life to cater to the needs (or limitations) of your various conditions, and managing your conditions with scrupulous attention to whatever meds, tests, limits and discipline you must observe, in order to enjoy your life - isn't that right? Like you, arthritis is a monster, but until recently was helped with the drug Celebrex. Now, as my kidneys are groaning (30% function - luckier than many!), Celebrex is out of bounds, and don't I notice the difference? Neck, shoulders, back - I can really relate to your situation. Sounds as if you live 'over there' - Stateside? I picked up on Mom and yardwork. I love my Aussie Rules Football, although it isn't what it was once it became corporatised. When your favorite player transfers to another club, do you have to change your allegiance to that club? Those situations rarely happened when it was a pleasant, Saturday afternoon, affordable sport, with no so-called Governing Body. Still - gotta move with the times. Bringing the content back to weather, what do your think about our Stadium with a lid? On a blustery cold, wet and windy weekend - typical footy weather, 14 out of the 16 clubs get covered in mud, miss the ball, miskick and the scores are low. But 2 get to play in a roofed arena. No mud, slush, rain, hail or wind. Scores are higher - much higher, therefore the average, one of the indicators affecting placement on the ladder, will be affected. Are we getting too clever, in 'controlling' the weather? (I really mean escaping the weather). Nice to have met you, David. Say Hi to your Mum for me. Cheers Nandina from cold Victoria - home of AFL footy. > For Tim Eckert and everyone else: NO, I'm one of those lucky > souls that doesn't work. The colitis in my intestines and ankylosing > spondylitis (calcium deposits) in my neck, arthritis in shoulders, knees, > etc. pretty well keep me from gainful employment. Now before I make ya'll > cry, the colitis seems to be in remission, I am able to get > around(drive); and I'm a lot luckier than other folks. I am 41, live with > my widowed mother, and fill my time with yardwork, gardening, helping Mom > around the house. I love to read, I collect railroad books/videos, keep > up on the wx, and communicate with you wonderful people! I love just > about all sports.(ESPN used to show Australian Rules Football--I really > enjoyed it; if I stay up late enough I can watch rugby.) I try to keep > busy with hobbies etc; so I think of my disability as a minor > inconvenience. Well, I hope I haven't bored you! Have a "ripper" of a > week. C-U Later. David Powell +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: hdewit at mail.sa.bom.gov.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:23:45 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Hank de Wit Subject: aus-wx: Adelaide Tornado - Correction Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Correction - Sorry I pasted in the wrong URL) Hi all, I've collected some of the information concerning the tornado that hit the eastern suburbs of Adelaide on the 18th. There is just a track and some damage photo's at the moment, but in time I will try to add more as information is provided. I'm not directly in the forecasting area so my knowledge to the meteorological circumstances is a bit vague. The storm that produced the tornado was on the wind change at the back edge of the main cloud band. The storm was part of a strong squall line, on the wind change. For the tornado track, there is a distinct drift to the left of the main direction at points 3, 4, and 5. The most severe stripping of trees occurred at points 4-5, and 7-8. Most of the damage is consistent with F0 intensity but the complete stripping of foliage and small branches from trees at 4-5, and 7 indicate F1 intensity at those points. I did have a quick squizz at the damage path on Monday which was a public holiday in SA, so there had been little official clean-up. At the norther edge of Parkinson Oval a night light had been knocked over. It did show rust at the base, so it was probably weak anyway. The fence bent over in the same park (seen in one of the photo's) was caused by the wind alone. None of the broken branches had fallen on it. On the center pole the wire mesh showed some stretching at the points of attachment. In the small park at point 12 on the map a gum tree was snapped off near the base. However examination of the break showed that there was a pre-existing weakness along the break point. This area often suffers from strong gully winds but these usually blow from the east or south-east. The map and pictures can be found at: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/hdewit/burnside_tornado/ I was also told there was another tornado north of Adelaide and another more significant one at Coulta on the Lower Eyre Peninsula. Cheers Hank +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:10:39 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com When studying meteorology in the mid 1950s, our teacher taught us what warm fronts were but said that they never occurred in Australia. Next morning, on the weather map in "The Sun", there was a warm front which, if I remember correctly, hung around for a couple of days. Of course we all gave our teacher rhubarb! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 15:16:39 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT >
>



Assuming the significant weather summary comes from the BoM > (shows how little I know) I'd imagine that some of the BoM's reporting > stations are too small to rate a mention on AUSLIG.  > Disparity in relation to locations, localities etc, between > Government Departments (in this instance BoM and AUSLIG) is > something that is common to bureaucracies all over the world.  I > recall three years ago, Blair and his Civil Service in Britain started > talking about 'joined up Government', so that different Departments > would work more closely togethe.  With three levels of Government > here, I think joined up Government is about as likely as snow in > Kakadu.

>

Warm fronts are not common here.  I remember as as child > staring at a synoptic chart wondering why they even bothered to have > warm fronts in the 'key'.  It's a good question Arky why they > seem more common in the States than Australia.  Wonder if it has > anything to do with the strong maratime influence to the south in > Australia.  Or does it say more about the comparative temperatures > of oceans and land masses, in the area where warm fronts > originate.  Mental note: must go to my texts and find the > answer!

>
>
>From: "arky dave" >
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >
>To: >
>Subject: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT >
>Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:17:14 -0500 >
> >
>'Evening All: >
> I was wondering why some places listed on the Sig Wx > Summary are not found by the AUSLIG place-name search. Ex. The Glebe, > QLD; Riveren, NT; Yarradagee,WA; Devoncourt Station, QLD; Mudall,NSW > and a multitude of other places. Is The Glebe a ship? Are these places > so new that they've not been entered into the AUSLIG index? I hope this > is not an insanely stupid question, but does Australia have frequent > occurrences of WARM FRONTS? They are fairly common here.(A weak Pacific > front will come through, become stationary to our south, and return > over us as a warm front). THANKS! David Powell >


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Hello once again folks. I have come up with some more ideas and pricing for some systems. I cam remember a few people not long ago went out and purchased some 27Mhz equipment. Some people also have some UHF equipment. I feel that now we are getting somewhere with all this, we need to pick a standard channel for communications so that we can all talk among each other rather than going to our own groups, i.e., compared to this list or emailing each person separately. I feel that either channels 1, 2, 3, 5, 6 or 7 would be best in 27mhz am as these seem to be used the least by other people. And on UHF, rather than trampling over people using other channels in each town, share with the Rural Fire Service on 14 as I am sure the service won't mind if we don't hog the channel and either side can get more information off each other. 14 is the standard in uhf for the RFS but I am not certain about other states. If anyone intends to purchase equipment yet, a good suggestion would be Uniden's new 090 model as it has both 27mhz am and uhf built into the one unit. It is just a little pricey.
 
As for the topic on HF equipment, I have come up with some much cheaper alternatives. Basically if we subscribe to the 4WDRN, then there is a choice of 5 voice channels. Of these channels, we would only use one at a time, thus only needing one antenna at a time. So working on this, rather than purchasing a $500 hand made antenna for many channels, Dick Smith has some very cheap interchangeable ones which are about $25 for the lead etc and then about $50 per antenna. You can then think of it as one antenna per channel we use but we would only want to use 1-2 channels anyway. So around $150 for two channels (+ license at $77 + transceiver) the price is coming down.
 
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Cable etc for HF Antenna: D4313
Antenna for 3995Khz: D4310
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Uniden 090 Radio: D1789

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From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: ABOUT ME PT 2 Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 22:18:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Re:Nandina Morris: Hello to you!
         Yes, I do live in the USA, more specifically, Mena (Polk County) Arkansas. We are a town of abt. 6500 people, in a valley at the base of the Ouachita (pronounced Wah-sha-taw) mountain range. I am a true-blue (fair dinkum) weather nut. I think just about everything Australian is pretty neat.("Crocodile Dundee" AFL Football, Foster's Beer Commercials, Rugby, and of course, the contrasting Aussie weather). As for arthritis, I never took Celebrex,(due to potential side-effects). I took much Motrin(until it quit having an effect), which caused the intestinal troubles that I'm just now getting over. About the only thing I take now is Tylenol. Stiffness, not so much pain, is my persistant problem. If you (or anyone else) has any more questions about me or our local weather, I'll try to answer them to the best of my ability.  As for your AFL question: Yes, it sounds pretty unfair; sort of like here, in baseball, some teams play outdoors and some in domed stadiums, which may have a bearing on home runs, etc. I agree, sports are neat, but they are becoming too much of a business. That's why I like highschool/college sports, NO corrypting money involved. Have a GREAT WEEK!    David Powell
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: NAMES Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 23:00:49 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Good Evening;
         I don't have a weather question this time (SURPRISE!). I was wondering if ya'll could tell me how Adelaide, Perth, Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Hobart and Canberra were named.
         Mena is named for Folmina Margaretha Janssen DeGoeijen. She was the wife of Dutch investor Jan DeGoeijen. Dutch investors helped finance the railroad (Kansas City, Pittsburg & Gulf, now Kansas City Southern) through this part of Arkansas. I (and many others) consider the town of Mena's birthday as August 19, 1896; which is when the first train came through town. There are Dutch placenames in Mena: Reine Street, Amsterdam Street, Hornbeck Avenue, Janssen Park, and in the county: Queen Wilhelmina State Park, and the south Polk Co. town on Vandervoort. Mena is at Milepost 380 (km 633.3) on the KCS RR. Sevier County, to our south, has the town of DeQueen (Americanization pronunciation of DeGoeijen).
          Have a good one!    David Powell
From: David.Carroll at countryenergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: Weather Underground Wx station To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:37:26 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 23/05/2002 02:37:25 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI All. With all these Wx stations appearing online,, We can now upload data and setup accounts to Weatherundergound, seems as servers are now up and running. http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/index.asp Info advised the servers take 1 day to upload current data, if the data is not current the wx station is removed from Wxundergound until new data is recvd. Dave Bathurst ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:57:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I think there is also a tendency for the BoM not to recognise them unless they are very distinct. I can recall instances in Sydney and even Brisbane, where the weather has displayed classic warm front symptoms in winter. John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:11 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT When studying meteorology in the mid 1950s, our teacher taught us what warm fronts were but said that they never occurred in Australia. Next morning, on the weather map in "The Sun", there was a warm front which, if I remember correctly, hung around for a couple of days. Of course we all gave our teacher rhubarb! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 15:16:39 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT >
>



Assuming the significant weather summary comes from the BoM > (shows how little I know) I'd imagine that some of the BoM's reporting > stations are too small to rate a mention on AUSLIG.  > Disparity in relation to locations, localities etc, between > Government Departments (in this instance BoM and AUSLIG) is > something that is common to bureaucracies all over the world.  I > recall three years ago, Blair and his Civil Service in Britain started > talking about 'joined up Government', so that different Departments > would work more closely togethe.  With three levels of Government > here, I think joined up Government is about as likely as snow in > Kakadu.

>

Warm fronts are not common here.  I remember as as child > staring at a synoptic chart wondering why they even bothered to have > warm fronts in the 'key'.  It's a good question Arky why they > seem more common in the States than Australia.  Wonder if it has > anything to do with the strong maratime influence to the south in > Australia.  Or does it say more about the comparative temperatures > of oceans and land masses, in the area where warm fronts > originate.  Mental note: must go to my texts and find the > answer!

>
>
>From: "arky dave" >
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >
>To: >
>Subject: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT >
>Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:17:14 -0500 >
> >
>'Evening All: >
> I was wondering why some places listed on the Sig Wx > Summary are not found by the AUSLIG place-name search. Ex. The Glebe, > QLD; Riveren, NT; Yarradagee,WA; Devoncourt Station, QLD; Mudall,NSW > and a multitude of other places. Is The Glebe a ship? Are these places > so new that they've not been entered into the AUSLIG index? I hope this > is not an insanely stupid question, but does Australia have frequent > occurrences of WARM FRONTS? They are fairly common here.(A weak Pacific > front will come through, become stationary to our south, and return > over us as a warm front). THANKS! David Powell >


Join the world’s largest e-mail > service with MSN Hotmail. Click > Here
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> >



Assuming the significant weather summary comes from the BoM > > (shows how little I know) I'd imagine that some of the BoM's reporting > > stations are too small to rate a mention on AUSLIG. > > Disparity in relation to locations, localities etc, between > > Government Departments (in this instance BoM and AUSLIG) is > > something that is common to bureaucracies all over the world. I > > recall three years ago, Blair and his Civil Service in Britain started > > talking about 'joined up Government', so that different Departments > > would work more closely togethe. With three levels of Government > > here, I think joined up Government is about as likely as snow in > > Kakadu.

> >

Warm fronts are not common here. I remember as as child > > staring at a synoptic chart wondering why they even bothered to have > > warm fronts in the 'key'. It's a good question Arky why they > > seem more common in the States than Australia. Wonder if it has > > anything to do with the strong maratime influence to the south in > > Australia. Or does it say more about the comparative temperatures > > of oceans and land masses, in the area where warm fronts > > originate. Mental note: must go to my texts and find the > > answer!

> >
> >
>From: "arky dave" > >
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >
>To: > >
>Subject: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT > >
>Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:17:14 -0500 > >
> > >
>'Evening All: > >
> I was wondering why some places listed on the Sig Wx > > Summary are not found by the AUSLIG place-name search. Ex. The Glebe, > > QLD; Riveren, NT; Yarradagee,WA; Devoncourt Station, QLD; Mudall,NSW > > and a multitude of other places. Is The Glebe a ship? Are these places > > so new that they've not been entered into the AUSLIG index? I hope this > > is not an insanely stupid question, but does Australia have frequent > > occurrences of WARM FRONTS? They are fairly common here.(A weak Pacific > > front will come through, become stationary to our south, and return > > over us as a warm front). THANKS! David Powell > >


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From: David Jones To: "old AUSSIE WX (aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com)" Subject: aus-wx: developing situation. Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 15:34:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >There's an area of vorticity apparent in the upper levels west of >Tasmania which appears to be related to the upper cloud patch to the >east of Tasmania at the same latitude, and this appears to be a westward >extension of the cloud area that came around and grabbed onto the east >coast of Tasmania today. Looks like it's being pushed north by an upper >ridge - will be interesting to see if & how it interacts with the upper >moisture over the Bight. > >Thoughts? Jane, My thoughts on this are that it is one very confusing situation. This small scale upper low rotating around the very much larger upper trough (axis to the east of Tasmania) makes for a very interesting set-up. Also, the cold pool currently moving NE to the south of Western Australia looks like following the SA cold pool, in again rotating around the much upper trough (on the weekend). I am quite certain that much of New South Wales will see a two staged major rain event out of this, first in association with the SA upper low, and then the second upper low early next week. For us further south, the big unknown is whether the quite general upper trough is going to amplify through the next seven days (as suggested by the GASP model, for example), and see a developing easterly dip trough and then low intrude into northern Victoria. If this later event happen, we could well see a system like that of April 2001. In projecting into the future, I notice that none of the progs seem to have done a good job in predicting the rainfall today over the settled areas of SA, and east Gippsland, which suggests they are not picking well the small scale features which appear so important at the moment.... BTW Jane how much rain did you end up getting out of the Sun-Wed system? Cheers, David Dr David Jones Head Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4085 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:53:58 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: HEAVY RAIN X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here in Hong Kong last June (2001) we had a major trough of low pressure which dropped 1083.6 mm rain on us. That's more than forty-three and a half inches in US measurement. That system set a new record for rainfall in HK. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Blair Trewin To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 11:51:01 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: aus-wx: HEAVY RAIN > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C20105.7BD64760 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Hello and Good Evening: > > I will try to also use metric readings in my reports.(sorry, > if I = > > disoriented anyone). I was wondering: EXCLUDING cyclone(hurricane) = > > events, what's the heaviest day's rain for towns in Australia? I know > of = > > at least 2 instances of 10IN(254mm) of rain in a day. The days were > Oct. = > > 31, 1972 and Oct. 7, 1990. Fortunately, our topography is such that = > > there is no prolonged flooding. The usual damage being washed-out = > > culverts and small bridges on county roads. We call heavy rain "gully > = > > washers" or "toad stranglers". P.S. On my conversions to mm, should I > = > > divide by the full 0.03937 OR just divide by 0.03? Thanks, David = > > Powell > > It depends a lot on location and local topography - Australia is a big > country! > > There are numerous cases on and near the east coast of non-cyclone > rainfalls exceeding 500mm (~20 inches) in a day. A site in Sydney got > something like 540mm in a day in 1844. > > The Australian record is over 900, but that was in a cyclone. > > Away from the east coast it is a different story. Melbourne, Adelaide, > Canberra and Perth all have records in the low 100s. (In Adelaide's > case this was from a single severe thunderstorm). > > As far as the conversion goes, 1 inch = 25.4mm (exactly), but 25mm (or > 1mm ~ 0.04 inch) will do as an approximation. > > Blair > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Barbara" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NAMES Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 16:19:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi David,
 
Rather than explain it all here I have found a few websites that maybe of interest.  The last one will give you lat. and long. plus there are maps. 
 
Happy reading.
Barbara
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2002 2:00
Subject: aus-wx: NAMES

Good Evening;
         I don't have a weather question this time (SURPRISE!). I was wondering if ya'll could tell me how Adelaide, Perth, Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Hobart and Canberra were named.
         Mena is named for Folmina Margaretha Janssen DeGoeijen. She was the wife of Dutch investor Jan DeGoeijen. Dutch investors helped finance the railroad (Kansas City, Pittsburg & Gulf, now Kansas City Southern) through this part of Arkansas. I (and many others) consider the town of Mena's birthday as August 19, 1896; which is when the first train came through town. There are Dutch placenames in Mena: Reine Street, Amsterdam Street, Hornbeck Avenue, Janssen Park, and in the county: Queen Wilhelmina State Park, and the south Polk Co. town on Vandervoort. Mena is at Milepost 380 (km 633.3) on the KCS RR. Sevier County, to our south, has the town of DeQueen (Americanization pronunciation of DeGoeijen).
          Have a good one!    David Powell
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Greetings to All:
        Sometimes in Winter, the best way to see when an Arctic airmass is fixing to hit, is for us to look at the temps. in Alaska. If the temps. there are warming pretty good, then we know that the cold air has left them and is on the move into the US, and will reach us in a few days. Conversely, when the temps. in Alaska are cooler/near normal then we in the lower US are warmer again.(But, when super-cold air invades Alaska and stays awhile, you know sooner-or-later that the "Siberian Express" will come rolling down soon). Are there any long-range indications like this for Australia?
REGARDS, David Powell
From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Storms/Rain Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 17:13:34 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Well what an interesting 2 days! Small CB formed directly over the airport / Ludmilla area yesterday on the boundary of a Gulf Line (drier air) which collided with the incursion of moist N / NW sea breeze and dropped 21.8mm. That set a new daily record! Then again today same thing - letf over moisture, weaker easterlies, colliding with the sea breeze caused another chunkier looking cb to shoot up dropping another 16mm. At my place I have had: 20mm 22.2mm In the last 2 days, with a 5m branch resting comfortably in my backyard as a result of today's downpour. Needless to say I am asking BOM to check doppler.... Very nice pressie for the Dry season!! Rgds, Paul. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.109.250.99] From: "Hector Pascal" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Radio Communications Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 17:50:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2002 07:50:42.0588 (UTC) FILETIME=[89F1EDC0:01C2022E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
8 Mhz should work pretty well during the daylight hours and 4Mhz should be reasonable too (up to a couple of hundred km's during daylight hours).  The only problems may be if there are a lot of thunderstorms around which could interfere.  What is the allowed PRP on these channels?
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:13 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Radio Communications

Hello once again folks. I have come up with some more ideas and pricing for some systems. I cam remember a few people not long ago went out and purchased some 27Mhz equipment. Some people also have some UHF equipment. I feel that now we are getting somewhere with all this, we need to pick a standard channel for communications so that we can all talk among each other rather than going to our own groups, i.e., compared to this list or emailing each person separately. I feel that either channels 1, 2, 3, 5, 6 or 7 would be best in 27mhz am as these seem to be used the least by other people. And on UHF, rather than trampling over people using other channels in each town, share with the Rural Fire Service on 14 as I am sure the service won't mind if we don't hog the channel and either side can get more information off each other. 14 is the standard in uhf for the RFS but I am not certain about other states. If anyone intends to purchase equipment yet, a good suggestion would be Uniden's new 090 model as it has both 27mhz am and uhf built into the one unit. It is just a little pricey.
 
As for the topic on HF equipment, I have come up with some much cheaper alternatives. Basically if we subscribe to the 4WDRN, then there is a choice of 5 voice channels. Of these channels, we would only use one at a time, thus only needing one antenna at a time. So working on this, rather than purchasing a $500 hand made antenna for many channels, Dick Smith has some very cheap interchangeable ones which are about $25 for the lead etc and then about $50 per antenna. You can then think of it as one antenna per channel we use but we would only want to use 1-2 channels anyway. So around $150 for two channels (+ license at $77 + transceiver) the price is coming down.
 
Dick Smith Part Numbers:
Cable etc for HF Antenna: D4313
Antenna for 3995Khz: D4310
Antenna For 8022Khz: D4311
Uniden 090 Radio: D1789

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From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Underground Wx station Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 17:31:32 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I started uploading to Weather Underground the other day. :) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: aus-wx: Weather Underground Wx station > HI All. > > With all these Wx stations appearing online,, We can now upload data and > setup accounts to Weatherundergound, seems as servers are now up and > running. > > http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/index.asp > > Info advised the servers take 1 day to upload current data, if the data is > not current the wx station is removed from Wxundergound until new data is > recvd. > > Dave > Bathurst +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 18:40:56 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Radio Communications Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 05:50 PM 24/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >8 Mhz should work pretty well during the daylight hours and 4Mhz should be >reasonable too (up to a couple of hundred km's during daylight >hours). The only problems may be if there are a lot of thunderstorms >around which could interfere. What is the allowed PRP on these channels? That would be a good mix. 4 MHz during the day may be required for shorter paths though (< 200km). I think the power limit is 100W, which should be adequate. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 18:34:58 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: 'Summer type synoptic" Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:45 AM 23/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hi all. >A quick glance at the Australian synoptic chart today and you may be >tricked into thinking it was summer not late May, also the pressure >gradient over most of the continent is one of the weakest I have seen for >awhile hardly any isobars sorry hectopasklebars, although all or most of >the activity is in the upper layers across SA and western NSW. regards >Clyve Herbert. I thought much the same - a high well to the south of Victoria and ESE winds over Melbourne is somewhat more like a summer pattern... 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Chas & Helen Osborn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warm Fronts... Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 20:18:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Kevin I have seen a rain event here on the west coast with Nimbostratus but not put on the synoptic chart as a warm front till after the event. Chas Strahan Tasmania ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Phyland" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 10:07 AM Subject: aus-wx: Warm Fronts... > Hi every1, > > I distinctly recall a warm front being analysed on the synoptic chart during > my first year of Met. at Melbourne Uni. It was sometime in September 1979 > and was analysed as a warm front for three days or so. It produced medium > rain (as I recall) over a two day period. Anyone with better memories or > access to old synopcharts may be better able to pinpoint the date. That's > the last one I recall being analysed although there may have been some > since... > > Kevin from Wycheproof. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fw: Aurora Warning Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:21:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "SpaceWeather.com" To: "SpaceWeather.com" Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 3:32 PM Subject: Aurora Warning Space Weather News for May 23, 2002 http://www.spaceweather.com A coronal mass ejection (CME) that billowed away from the Sun on May 22nd is heading toward Earth. 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In regard to the Illawarra, the ocean plays a major role. The proximity of the escarpment is also a feature. Although not high the escarpment is never more than 10 miles inland. 
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 7:13 AM
Subject: aus-wx: RAIN REPORTS

Hello to Everyone:
        THANKS for the Heavy Rain articles. I was wondering if your proximity to the ocean would enhance these rain totals? The heavy rain events that I mentioned in Mena were due to an excrucially slow-moving stationary front. I was wondering: what was the most screwed-up(inaccurate) weather forecast that you'd heard of. My favorite one for Mena happened on May 2,1994, the forecast high for Mena was around 65F(18.3C), due to fog and heavy rain the high was actually 45F(7.2C), while we were getting pounded with 2.33IN (59.1mm) of rain. (I and my 2 best friends, Ronnie & Donnie Pearce, played games of horseshoes in the downpour).
   Have an awesome day.  David Powell
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Thanks Clyve, so far you are ahead of me on rainfall for the month. I think that may change from tomorrow. Winds have just tuned onshore late today and a light shower or two has occurred.
 
I do however fear that the better falls will be from Sydney northwards.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN

Hi stormsurfer.
Over the several days of activity from the developing low I saw some very photogenic cold air CBs, mostly off shore over Bass Strait (water temp about 17c), on one evening a few flashes of lightning and the odd rumble, although one downpour gave me 5mm in 5 minutes I have received about 28mm over the whole event which is a little disappointing after almost 3 months of well below average falls. It seems the core of colder air channelled through the Adelaide region and then carried by the strong west east gradient into central NSW with the snow line getting close to 600m for a brief spell. At one point the 500hpa temp over Melbourne was about -28c, not bad!, The low when it drifted into the Tasman developed several 'Ankle biters' small satellite vorticity points around the main parent low, one of which came ashore just east of Melbourne and at one stage developed a small central clear area about 50klm wide with an eye characteristic (just off the north west cast of Tasmania). regards Clyve Herbert.
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Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN

Thanks Clyve, I was unsure of the actual altitude so played conservative. Did you get any interesting weather from this last system. Only strong winds here, but just a little brief rain on Monday morning, which had it not cleared may have led to a record low maxima for May in Wollongong / Sydney.
 
Michael
 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN

Hi Stormsurfer.
I think last Christmas/Boxing day (2001) snow fell across Tasmania down to 2500ft (briefly) this occasion also saw snow across the Victorian Alps down to 4000ft, during the first week of December there were good falls of snow over Tasmania and Victoria as low as 3500feet. regards Clyve H.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: RAIN

Earliest / latest snowfalls is an interesting issue Dave. I said before that the southern ocean modifies the climate. I should really say that the lack of a continental land mass in high latitudes is the issue. This may make winter fronts milder, but also allows for some stronger summer fronts to actually bring genuine snow in summer at altitudes where in the USA it has never snowed in summer. For example Tasmania has seen Christmas Day falls  down to 4000-5000ft. This is like snow on the 25th June in the USA.
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:45 PM
Subject: aus-wx: RAIN

HI!
      When Mena gets rain TWICE in one day it usually is due to rainfall from a (Canadian or Pacific) Cold front, then rain stops/partial clearing, then a brief shower as the vortex of the low ("backwash" as I call it) passes close by. PHIL SMITH= Do you think those towns in VIC get rain TWICE a day because of rainfall of a tropical nature? What is the earliest/latest out-of-season snowfall in Australia? As I mentioned before, Mena has had SNOW in May. Last year, from last Spring freeze (32F/0C) to first Fall freeze, was from April 18 to October 28.
THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR ANSWERS, INFO, & HELP!
X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 17:52:09 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: NZ Tornadoes Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:04 23/05/02 +1200, you wrote: > Thunderstorms in NZ yesterday produced tornadoes in Taranaki with some >property damage. One house is reported to have been set on fire by >lightning. More storms are expected today particularly on the South >Islands West Coast and in the Taranaki region. Steven Williams I thort there would be tornados somewhere with this current weather system passing over us. thanks Steve JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upper cold pool Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 22:13:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com David, I got 54.5mm from the last event.... 19th: 16.2mm 20th: 14.7mm 21st: 13.2mm 22nd: 10.4mm I'm up to 81mm for the month with the average being 88mm. Pretty happy with this...and it's only the 23rd! Now can someone tell me when to prune roses that have already dropped their leaves & have regrown new ones and are forming new flowers!!!!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide Tornado - Correction Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 22:17:16 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks for sharing those pictures Hank, the damage reminds me of the Port Stephens event of last November. I believe that the majority of damage was straight line, but there was a report of tornadic activity. I must admit that in a small area the 'type' of damage changed. Most notable from straight forward uprooting and large branches down to the more tops of the tree pruned off, like your pictures. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hank de Wit" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:53 AM Subject: aus-wx: Adelaide Tornado - Correction > (Correction - Sorry I pasted in the wrong URL) > > Hi all, > > I've collected some of the information concerning the tornado that hit the > eastern suburbs of Adelaide on the 18th. There is just a track and some > damage photo's at the moment, but in time I will try to add more as > information is provided. I'm not directly in the forecasting area so my > knowledge to the meteorological circumstances is a bit vague. The storm > that produced the tornado was on the wind change at the back edge of the > main cloud band. The storm was part of a strong squall line, on the wind > change. > > For the tornado track, there is a distinct drift to the left of the main > direction at points 3, 4, and 5. The most severe stripping of trees > occurred at points 4-5, and 7-8. Most of the damage is consistent with F0 > intensity but the complete stripping of foliage and small branches from > trees at 4-5, and 7 indicate F1 intensity at those points. I did have a > quick squizz at the damage path on Monday which was a public holiday in SA, > so there had been little official clean-up. > > At the norther edge of Parkinson Oval a night light had been knocked over. > It did show rust at the base, so it was probably weak anyway. The fence > bent over in the same park (seen in one of the photo's) was caused by the > wind alone. None of the broken branches had fallen on it. On the center > pole the wire mesh showed some stretching at the points of attachment. > > In the small park at point 12 on the map a gum tree was snapped off near > the base. However examination of the break showed that there was a > pre-existing weakness along the break point. This area often suffers from > strong gully winds but these usually blow from the east or south-east. > > The map and pictures can be found at: > > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/hdewit/burnside_tornado/ > > I was also told there was another tornado north of Adelaide and another > more significant one at Coulta on the Lower Eyre Peninsula. > > Cheers > Hank > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 22:05:16 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, I know this makes me ancient but in 1964 when I was a student at School and observing the weather I can recall an event in Sydney when we had a classical warm front\cold front sequence. We had a Ci\cs\as\ns cloud increase leading to steady rain all the morning and around 10 deg. Winds were light NE . Clearance moved in in a line from NW\SE as the Ns cleared and rain ceased. As the clearance moved over head winds swing NW and the temp rapidly rose to 27 deg with a rapid decrease in Humidity and DP. The sky was clear most of the afternoon with no Cu. Late in the afternoon a line of Large Cu\Cb with Shwrs and Tstorms moved from the SW and winds turned much cooler SW with the Wx clearing rapidly. While I didn't have acess to a weather map, the Barometer at School showed a pressure response almost textbook style .Min pressure was around 1003 Hpa so I suspect the low pressure centre was close to Sydney.I think it was in autumn but I can not be more specific. I have never seen such an event since even while in Melbourne with BOM in the mid-late 60's. I am sure it was not an East Coast Low moving down the coast as I have seen a few of these other the years while I have lived in Sydney. Gavin O'Brien SSWW Canberra ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:57 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT Hi all, I think there is also a tendency for the BoM not to recognise them unless they are very distinct. I can recall instances in Sydney and even Brisbane, where the weather has displayed classic warm front symptoms in winter. John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:11 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT When studying meteorology in the mid 1950s, our teacher taught us what warm fronts were but said that they never occurred in Australia. Next morning, on the weather map in "The Sun", there was a warm front which, if I remember correctly, hung around for a couple of days. Of course we all gave our teacher rhubarb! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 15:16:39 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT >
>



Assuming the significant weather summary comes from the BoM > (shows how little I know) I'd imagine that some of the BoM's reporting > stations are too small to rate a mention on AUSLIG. > Disparity in relation to locations, localities etc, between > Government Departments (in this instance BoM and AUSLIG) is > something that is common to bureaucracies all over the world. I > recall three years ago, Blair and his Civil Service in Britain started > talking about 'joined up Government', so that different Departments > would work more closely togethe. With three levels of Government > here, I think joined up Government is about as likely as snow in > Kakadu.

>

Warm fronts are not common here. I remember as as child > staring at a synoptic chart wondering why they even bothered to have > warm fronts in the 'key'. It's a good question Arky why they > seem more common in the States than Australia. Wonder if it has > anything to do with the strong maratime influence to the south in > Australia. Or does it say more about the comparative temperatures > of oceans and land masses, in the area where warm fronts > originate. Mental note: must go to my texts and find the > answer!

>
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>From: "arky dave" >
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>To: >
>Subject: aus-wx: CAN'T FIND IT >
>Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:17:14 -0500 >
> >
>'Evening All: >
> I was wondering why some places listed on the Sig Wx > Summary are not found by the AUSLIG place-name search. Ex. The Glebe, > QLD; Riveren, NT; Yarradagee,WA; Devoncourt Station, QLD; Mudall,NSW > and a multitude of other places. Is The Glebe a ship? Are these places > so new that they've not been entered into the AUSLIG index? I hope this > is not an insanely stupid question, but does Australia have frequent > occurrences of WARM FRONTS? They are fairly common here.(A weak Pacific > front will come through, become stationary to our south, and return > over us as a warm front). THANKS! David Powell >


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Will have to check once again, communications like this are usually 100w but may be 500w. 100w should be plenty down there.
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Hector Pascal
Sent: Friday, 24 May 2002 5:50 PM
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8 Mhz should work pretty well during the daylight hours and 4Mhz should be reasonable too (up to a couple of hundred km's during daylight hours).  The only problems may be if there are a lot of thunderstorms around which could interfere.  What is the allowed PRP on these channels?
 
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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:13 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Radio Communications

Hello once again folks. I have come up with some more ideas and pricing for some systems. I cam remember a few people not long ago went out and purchased some 27Mhz equipment. Some people also have some UHF equipment. I feel that now we are getting somewhere with all this, we need to pick a standard channel for communications so that we can all talk among each other rather than going to our own groups, i.e., compared to this list or emailing each person separately. I feel that either channels 1, 2, 3, 5, 6 or 7 would be best in 27mhz am as these seem to be used the least by other people. And on UHF, rather than trampling over people using other channels in each town, share with the Rural Fire Service on 14 as I am sure the service won't mind if we don't hog the channel and either side can get more information off each other. 14 is the standard in uhf for the RFS but I am not certain about other states. If anyone intends to purchase equipment yet, a good suggestion would be Uniden's new 090 model as it has both 27mhz am and uhf built into the one unit. It is just a little pricey.
 
As for the topic on HF equipment, I have come up with some much cheaper alternatives. Basically if we subscribe to the 4WDRN, then there is a choice of 5 voice channels. Of these channels, we would only use one at a time, thus only needing one antenna at a time. So working on this, rather than purchasing a $500 hand made antenna for many channels, Dick Smith has some very cheap interchangeable ones which are about $25 for the lead etc and then about $50 per antenna. You can then think of it as one antenna per channel we use but we would only want to use 1-2 channels anyway. So around $150 for two channels (+ license at $77 + transceiver) the price is coming down.
 
Dick Smith Part Numbers:
Cable etc for HF Antenna: D4313
Antenna for 3995Khz: D4310
Antenna For 8022Khz: D4311
Uniden 090 Radio: D1789

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From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Underground Wx station Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 22:47:28 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, And also my does upload to weather underground wx station as well. Update every 5 minutes. (Golden Grove) From Nathan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stargazer" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:31 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Underground Wx station > I started uploading to Weather Underground the other day. > > :) > > Regs. Paul. > (Stargazer) > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:07 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Weather Underground Wx station > > > > HI All. > > > > With all these Wx stations appearing online,, We can now upload data and > > setup accounts to Weatherundergound, seems as servers are now up and > > running. > > > > http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/index.asp > > > > Info advised the servers take 1 day to upload current data, if the data is > > not current the wx station is removed from Wxundergound until new data is > > recvd. > > > > Dave > > Bathurst > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fw: AstroAlert: Strong solar disturbance impacts magnetosphere - Aurora Warning Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 23:18:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cary Oler" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:25 PM Subject: AstroAlert: Strong solar disturbance impacts magnetosphere - Aurora Warning ================================================================= This Is SKY & TELESCOPE's AstroAlert for Sun-Earth Interactions ================================================================= A s t r o A l e r t Sun-Earth Alert Solar Terrestrial Dispatch http://www.spacew.com 23 May 2002 STRONG INTERPLANETARY SHOCK FRONT IMPACTS EARTH'S MAGNETOSPHERE A large "blast wave" (a shocked front in the solar wind) related to solar coronal mass ejection activity observed on 22 May has arrived many hours earlier and much stronger than predictions suggested might be observed. The shock front was observed impacting the Earth's magnetosphere near 10:50 UTC on 23 May (6:50 am EDT on 23 May). Solar wind velocities increased by more than 150 kilometers per second and interplanetary magnetic field values more than doubled. Intensified levels of auroral activity are expected to accompany this disturbance. We regret that the early arrival of the disturbance will preclude many people on this list from being notified in a timely manner of impending activity. To help in this respect, we have released a free and near-fully functional version of a software package that will help observers track space weather conditions in near real-time on their computer systems. The software is available at: http://www.spacew.com/swim for Windows NT4.0, Windows 2000 and Windows XP systems only. It is roughly 4 megabytes in size. Users of Windows 95, 98 and Me machines will not be able to make use of this software as it makes fairly heavy use of system resources - Windows 95, 98 and Me operating systems do not have sufficient resources available. For users of Windows 95, 98 and Me systems, we recommend downloading the trial Aurora Monitor software available at: http://www.spacew.com/aurora. A middle latitude auroral activity warning was just issued and is posted in its entirety below. Observations of activity should be reported to: http://www.spacew.com/www/subaurora.html. Current observations of activity can be found at: http://www.spacew.com/www/auroras.html. Users of the aforementioned software may configure the software to send sighting report alerts via digital SMS to their internet-enabled cellular phones and/or pagers. This activity is expected to continue through the next 18 to 36 hours. The coronal mass ejection affecting the Earth is expected to be a complex one, involving up to three separate coronal mass ejections that have likely interacted with each other. Such disturbance often prove unpredictable and may become rather intense at times. The poor arrival time of this disturbance (near sunrise over North America) is not good news for North American observers. It is, however, good news for Australian and New Zealand observers. Activity may also last long enough for European observers to spot periods of auroral activity. Whether the disturbance has the longevity to produce visible auroral activity over North America is still an open question. More will be known later in the day as the disturbance progresses. For more detailed predictions and current conditions, visit: http://www.spacew.com/aurora/forum.html and consult the current forecast conditions link at the base of the page. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY WARNING ISSUED: 11:00 UTC, 23 MAY 2002 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ *** POTENTIAL FOR MODERATE TO HIGH ACTIVITY EXISTS *** VALID BEGINNING AT: EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY VALID UNTIL: 19:00 UTC ON 25 MAY HIGH RISK PERIOD: 23 - 24 MAY (UTC DAYS) MODERATE RISK PERIOD: 23 - 25 MAY PREDICTED ACTIVITY INDICES: 40, 20, 12, 10 (23 MAY - 26 MAY) POTENTIAL MAGNITUDE OF MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY: MODERATE TO HIGH POTENTIAL DURATION OF THIS ACTIVITY: MAIN BELT = 12 TO 18 HOURS MINOR BELT = 18 TO 36 HOURS ESTIMATED OPTIMUM OBSERVING CONDITIONS: NEAR LOCAL MIDNIGHT EXPECTED LUNAR INTERFERENCE: MODERATE TO HIGH OVERALL OPPORTUNITY FOR OBSERVATIONS FROM MIDDLE LATITUDES: FAIR AURORAL ACTIVITY *MAY* BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM... OREGON TO NORTHERN UTAH TO NORTHERN COLORADO TO SOUTHERN NEBRASKA TO NORTHERN MISSOURI TO ILLINOIS TO INDIANA AND EXTREME NORTHERN KENTUCKY TO VIRGINA. ACTIVITY *MAY* ALSO BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM... FRANCE TO SWITZERLAND TO SOUTHERN GERMANY TO NORTHERN AUSTRIA TO NORTHERN SLOVAKIA TO SOUTHERN POLAND TO NORTHERN UKRAINE TO CENTRAL RUSSIA. NEW ZEALAND AND SOUTHERN REGIONS OF AUSTRALIA ARE ALSO GOOD CANDIDATES FOR AURORAL ACTIVITY SIGHTINGS. SYNOPSIS... A strong interplanetary shock front was observed passing the ACE spacecraft near 10:16 UTC on 23 May. It impacted the magnetosphere near 10:50 UTC on 23 May. The source of this disturbance is still officially uncertain, but may be related to the high velocity coronal mass ejection that was observed early on 22 May. Auroral activity is expected to reach sporadic minor to major storm levels over the next 12 to 24 hours. There is also a chance for isolated major to severe storm levels of auroral activity over the high and middle latitude regions. Australia and New Zealand are presently well placed for observing activity. There is also a fair chance activity may last long enough for many European regions to spot periods of activity. However, there is uncertainty whether the disturbance will have the longevity to last through to nightfall over North America. The disturbance may be in a state of decay by then. This warning will remain in effect until 19:00 UTC on 25 May. It will then be updated or allowed to expire. PLEASE REPORT OBSERVATIONS OF AURORAL ACTIVITY TO: http://solar.spacew.com/www/auroras.html *** NEW *** We have released a new Trial Version of our powerful SWIM softare: the most elaborate internet image resource monitoring software package available. Grab your free copy for Windows NT4.0, Windows 2000 or Windows XP machines at: http://www.spacew.com/swim o Real-time notification of events via Digital SMS (cell phone/pager): using the SWIM software. o Monitor real-time conditions and report sightings using software at: http://www.spacew.com/aurora o On-line global discussion forum: http://www.spacew.com/aurora/forum.html o Chat in real-time with others using IRC at: http://www.spacew.com/irc and join the #aurora channel (type /join #aurora in the IRC software). ** End of the AstroAlert Bulletin ** ================================================================== AstroAlert is a free service of SKY & TELESCOPE, the Essential Magazine of Astronomy (http://SkyandTelescope.com/). This e-mail was sent to AstroAlert subscribers. ================================================================== --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.362 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 7/05/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: SOUTHERN LIGHTS Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:40:15 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
'Morning All:
        I see that ya'll have an AURORA alert. Does Australia see the "Southern Lights" frequently? I only remember seeing the "Northern Lights" here one time.(We are so far south that we miss them). I saw them as a reddish glow in the northern sky on the night of November 8, 1991, and am uncertain to the duration of the event. Some people called the authorities, thinking the glow might be from a forest fire.
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: BARO PRESS Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:46:51 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Salutations:
         The barometer here(Mena AP AWS) is the highest when a blanket of cold Arctic air is upon us. Such was the case on this January 2nd; with clear skies, low humidity, and Arctic chill (25F/-3.8C), just before Noon, I called the AWS at Mena AP, the barometer reading was 30.71"!(1040mb). This is the highest reading that I know of. What is the highest baro. readings that you know of in Australia?
       C-U Later & THANKS
From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upper cold pool Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 06:53:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com June. Then they should flower for the Melbourne cup. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 10:13 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upper cold pool > David, > > I got 54.5mm from the last event.... > > 19th: 16.2mm > 20th: 14.7mm > 21st: 13.2mm > 22nd: 10.4mm > > I'm up to 81mm for the month with the average being 88mm. Pretty happy > with this...and it's only the 23rd! Now can someone tell me when to > prune roses that have already dropped their leaves & have regrown new > ones and are forming new flowers!!!!! > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Jones To: "old AUSSIE WX (aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com)" Subject: aus-wx: not quite weather. Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 08:47:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >I'm up to 81mm for the month with the average being 88mm. Pretty happy >with this...and it's only the 23rd! Now can someone tell me when to >prune roses that have already dropped their leaves & have regrown new >ones and are forming new flowers!!!!! > >Jane I can't tell you when but I can tell you where. Cut them off at ground level! My experience is that the harder you try to kill the damn prickly things the more vigorous they grow back. DJ Dr David Jones Head Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4085 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 09:08:53 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SOUTHERN LIGHTS X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've never heard anyone in Australia use the term "Southern Lights", we usually call it "Aurora Australis" or simply shorten it to "Aurora". When I lived in Western Victoria (no street lighting in the old days) seeing the aurora was a relatively common experience. In the mid- fifties I remember auroras night after night that gave sufficient light to read by. At that time if you projected an image of the sun during daylight hours it looked like it had measles, so common were the sunspots. Eleven years later, when the next really active season came around, street lighting had become a real nuisance and seeing the aurora usually required going out into the country away from the town. During the seventies I lived in the Latrobe Valley where the sky was constantly lit by all the lights from the power stations and coal mines and there were mountains to the immediate South so seeing an aurora was limited to times when one could drive quite a long distance to an area far from any towns or mountains. In the eighties I lived in Sydney and then moved to Hong Kong so I haven't seen an aurora for more than twenty years. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "arky dave" To: Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 10:40:15 -0500 Subject: aus-wx: SOUTHERN LIGHTS > 'Morning All: > I see that ya'll have an AURORA alert. Does Australia see the > "Southern Lights" frequently? I only remember seeing the "Northern > Lights" here one time.(We are so far south that we miss them). I saw > them as a reddish glow in the northern sky on the night of November 8, > 1991, and am uncertain to the duration of the event. Some people called > the authorities, thinking the glow might be from a forest fire. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nandina at pop.alphalink.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 11:59:24 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Nandina Morris Subject: Re: aus-wx: NAMES Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My special book tells me Melbourne was named after the English Prime Minister - think he was Lord Melbourne. Adelaide was named after Queen Adelaide, consort of William IV;Perth was named after the Scottish title of the Secretary of State for the Colonies in London at the time of its foundation. Sydney was to honour Thomas Townsend, Lord Sydney (1733-1800) Secretary of State 1784-89, largely responsible largely responsible for the establishment of the penal settlement in N.S.W. Canberra is generally located in the 'Yass-Canberry' area, and its name appears to be a contraction from that. A site for the function of Canberra was searched for over 9 years, with much controversy, Royal Commissions (2) etc etc.Hobart was named after the Secretary of State for the Colonies, Robert Hobart. Brisbane appears to have been named for Sir Thomas Brisbane. He was governor of N.S.W in 1834. VVictoria did not become a separate colony until 1851, with Melbourne its capital city, and Queensland, with capital city Brisbane was still under the control of N.S.W. until 1859. Then in 1901, these separate states embraced federation. However, the states still retain some separate functions, and we are governed by 2 tiers of government - excluding municipal government, of course. Now then - how's that for a potted history lesson. All the Lords and so forth are British, and the term 'colony' referred to a colony of Britain. Cheers Nandina .At 11:00 PM 5/22/02 -0500, you wrote: >Good Evening; > I don't have a weather question this time (SURPRISE!). I was > wondering if ya'll could tell me how Adelaide, Perth, Brisbane, Sydney, > Melbourne, Hobart and Canberra were named. > Mena is named for Folmina Margaretha Janssen DeGoeijen. She was > the wife of Dutch investor Jan DeGoeijen. Dutch investors helped finance > the railroad (Kansas City, Pittsburg & Gulf, now Kansas City Southern) > through this part of Arkansas. I (and many others) consider the town of > Mena's birthday as August 19, 1896; which is when the first train came > through town. There are Dutch placenames in Mena: Reine Street, Amsterdam > Street, Hornbeck Avenue, Janssen Park, and in the county: Queen > Wilhelmina State Park, and the south Polk Co. town on Vandervoort. Mena > is at Milepost 380 (km 633.3) on the KCS RR. Sevier County, to our south, > has the town of DeQueen (Americanization pronunciation of DeGoeijen). > Have a good one! David Powell +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [137.111.13.33] From: "Hector Pascal" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Radio Communications Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:59:54 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 May 2002 02:59:55.0029 (UTC) FILETIME=[14CD7450:01C202CF] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Will have to check once again, communications like this are usually 100w >but >may be 500w. 100w should be plenty down there. You'll need a pretty high duty power supply to get 500 watts mobile! Somewhere in the order of 42 amps peak (for a 12v supply)...100 watts should be alright, though, and provide a good signal in most conditions, I think...But you might want a spare car battery handy :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les Crossan" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NZ Tornadoes Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 18:00:10 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm surprised there arent more, the climatology seems similar to the UK, at least on South Island. Are NZ tornadoes of the T1-2 variety peaking in your wintertime and spawned on cold fronts / single cells??? Les -- Les Crossan & Christine Challen, Wallsend, Tyne & Wear, England 55N 0130W les.crossan at blueyonder.co.uk www.uksevereweather.org.uk 62.31.157.178:8000/listen.pls ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gaul" --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: ECLIPSE Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 22:40:26 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
G'DAY TO ALL:
         I see ya'll reporting on a solar eclipse. We don't see them very often here. When an event happens,(for lack of equipment) my favorite way to view it(partial solar eclipse) is to pour an amount of water on the sunny part of our carport; and to see the eclipse in the reflection of the water. I remember probably abt. 12 yrs. ago, we here were able to see an almost total lunar eclipse. I and some friends viewed the event with a pair of binoculars. Does Australia experience many solar/lunar eclipse events?  THANKS for the info. on how those Australian towns got their names. I sort of wonder: What would have Australians named those towns, if the British were not involved?  THIS weekend in the US is Memorial Day (Honoring Military Veterans). So, I want to say a big THANK YOU to those Veterans (and those still active) in the Australian Military. THANKS for being on "our" side during WW2, and THANKS for being such great friends!
          WITH DEEPEST REGARDS!  David Powell
From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NZ Tornadoes Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 17:54:11 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Les There has been very little research done on tornadoes in NZ or Australia. In NZ they occur in autumn and spring with multicell thunderstorms. Our summers tend to be very stable (high dominates NZ). It is a fair guess to say that many tornadic occurrences go unobserved thus unreported because of low population density. Cheers Steven Williams---- Original Message ----- From: "Les Crossan" To: Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 6:00 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: NZ Tornadoes > I'm surprised there arent more, the climatology seems similar to the UK, at > least on South Island. Are NZ tornadoes of the T1-2 variety peaking in your > wintertime and spawned on cold fronts / single cells??? > > Les > -- > Les Crossan & Christine Challen, > Wallsend, Tyne & Wear, England 55N 0130W > les.crossan at blueyonder.co.uk > www.uksevereweather.org.uk > 62.31.157.178:8000/listen.pls > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Gaul" > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/2002 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: COLD Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 01:09:38 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: This email was scanned for known viruses (http://www.voltage.net/virusalert.html) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Wx friends:
       I just learned that Mena's low temperature Sunday was a record low. The 41F(5.0C) reading, broke the old record of 45F(7.2C) in 1983. There are some northern Ark. towns that are a little cooler(Fayetteville, Harrison, Gilbert, Calico Rock, Lead Hill) than we are; but Mena is not very far behind. When hearing the local wx report, I usually take 5F off the forecast high & low, and that's what Mena's actual temp. will most likely be. Ex. if the forecast calls for highs in the mid-70sF(low 20sC) and lows in the mid-50sF(low teensC); Mena's actual high will be around 70F(21.1C) with a low of around 50F(10C). Because of elev. it seems Mena has a slightly cooler "microclimate".
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: ECLIPSE Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:13:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I expect we would have things like woolloomoolloo, widgiemooltha, coweramup and indooroopilly just to mention some better known ozzie placenames.  
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G'DAY TO ALL:
         I see ya'll reporting on a solar eclipse. We don't see them very often here. When an event happens,(for lack of equipment) my favorite way to view it(partial solar eclipse) is to pour an amount of water on the sunny part of our carport; and to see the eclipse in the reflection of the water. I remember probably abt. 12 yrs. ago, we here were able to see an almost total lunar eclipse. I and some friends viewed the event with a pair of binoculars. Does Australia experience many solar/lunar eclipse events?  THANKS for the info. on how those Australian towns got their names. I sort of wonder: What would have Australians named those towns, if the British were not involved?  THIS weekend in the US is Memorial Day (Honoring Military Veterans). So, I want to say a big THANK YOU to those Veterans (and those still active) in the Australian Military. THANKS for being on "our" side during WW2, and THANKS for being such great friends!
          WITH DEEPEST REGARDS!  David Powell
From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NAMES Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:48:07 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 May 2002 06:48:34.0197 (UTC) FILETIME=[06105C50:01C202EF] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Forgive me if im wrong, But i was alway taught Canberra came from an Aboriginal word for "meeting place" (Kambera???), i think there is a wine company here using the Kambera name also. Cheers --------------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------- This Email is virus free. Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. Virus definition file 21-05-2002. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nandina Morris" To: Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 11:59 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: NAMES > My special book tells me Melbourne was named after the English Prime > Minister - think he was Lord Melbourne. Adelaide was named after Queen > Adelaide, consort of William IV;Perth was named after the Scottish title of > the Secretary of State for the Colonies in London at the time of its > foundation. Sydney was to honour Thomas Townsend, Lord Sydney (1733-1800) > Secretary of State 1784-89, largely responsible largely responsible for the > establishment of the penal settlement in N.S.W. Canberra is generally > located in the 'Yass-Canberry' area, and its name appears to be a > contraction from that. A site for the function of Canberra was searched > for over 9 years, with much controversy, Royal Commissions (2) etc > etc.Hobart was named after the Secretary of State for the Colonies, Robert > Hobart. Brisbane appears to have been named for Sir Thomas Brisbane. He > was governor of N.S.W in 1834. > VVictoria did not become a separate colony until 1851, with Melbourne its > capital city, and Queensland, with capital city Brisbane was still under > the control of N.S.W. until 1859. Then in 1901, these separate states > embraced federation. However, the states still retain some separate > functions, and we are governed by 2 tiers of government - excluding > municipal government, of course. > Now then - how's that for a potted history lesson. All the Lords and so > forth are British, and the term 'colony' referred to a colony of Britain. > > Cheers > > Nandina > > .At 11:00 PM 5/22/02 -0500, you wrote: > >Good Evening; > > I don't have a weather question this time (SURPRISE!). I was > > wondering if ya'll could tell me how Adelaide, Perth, Brisbane, Sydney, > > Melbourne, Hobart and Canberra were named. > > Mena is named for Folmina Margaretha Janssen DeGoeijen. She was > > the wife of Dutch investor Jan DeGoeijen. Dutch investors helped finance > > the railroad (Kansas City, Pittsburg & Gulf, now Kansas City Southern) > > through this part of Arkansas. I (and many others) consider the town of > > Mena's birthday as August 19, 1896; which is when the first train came > > through town. There are Dutch placenames in Mena: Reine Street, Amsterdam > > Street, Hornbeck Avenue, Janssen Park, and in the county: Queen > > Wilhelmina State Park, and the south Polk Co. town on Vandervoort. Mena > > is at Milepost 380 (km 633.3) on the KCS RR. Sevier County, to our south, > > has the town of DeQueen (Americanization pronunciation of DeGoeijen). > > Have a good one! David Powell > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:59:29 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: ECLIPSE X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Then there are the mythical ones out of Aussie stories such as "Didjadragyerdogalong" which don't make much sense until you sound them out. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:13:46 +1000 Subject: RE: aus-wx: ECLIPSE > I expect we would have things like woolloomoolloo, widgiemooltha, > coweramup > and indooroopilly just to mention some better known ozzie placenames. > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of arky dave > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:40 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: ECLIPSE > > > G'DAY TO ALL: > I see ya'll reporting on a solar eclipse. We don't see them > very > often here. When an event happens,(for lack of equipment) my favorite > way to > view it(partial solar eclipse) is to pour an amount of water on the > sunny > part of our carport; and to see the eclipse in the reflection of the > water. > I remember probably abt. 12 yrs. ago, we here were able to see an > almost > total lunar eclipse. I and some friends viewed the event with a pair of > binoculars. Does Australia experience many solar/lunar eclipse events? > THANKS for the info. on how those Australian towns got their names. I > sort > of wonder: What would have Australians named those towns, if the > British > were not involved? THIS weekend in the US is Memorial Day (Honoring > Military Veterans). So, I want to say a big THANK YOU to those Veterans > (and > those still active) in the Australian Military. THANKS for being on > "our" > side during WW2, and THANKS for being such great friends! > WITH DEEPEST REGARDS! David Powell > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Humidity - 0% ???? To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 17:05:21 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C20032.7A0F67F0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Goodevening!! > Brrrrr, it's cold! 14.8C In NE NSW and the DP has dropped into the minus = > for the first time this year (yeah I know, I am a wus and would love to = > move to Darwin for winter!!). With this low dewpoint I then noticed that = > the RH was around 35% which made me think, at what point would the RH be = > 0%. Has it happened before somewhere and is it common occurance? Thanks. > The relative humidity couldn't drop to exactly zero (this would mean that there was no water vapour whatsoever in the air), but it is conceivable that it could fall below 0.5% (making it 0% to the nearest round number). I haven't ever seen this happen though (have seen 1% occasionally with dry-bulb in the 30s and dew-point below -20). At such low dewpoints instrument accuracy is also a serious issue. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ECLIPSE Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:54:33 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
You forgot Didjabringabeeralong!  ;)
 
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I expect we would have things like woolloomoolloo, widgiemooltha, coweramup and indooroopilly just to mention some better known ozzie placenames.  
 
From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: What will it take.. Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 18:24:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com to dislodge this? http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp I think it's partly why we are predicted to be in for a wet week... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned by Norton AntiVirus and is certified to be free of viruses. Keith Barnett Weather fanatic and classical piano player +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: ECLIPSE Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 18:45:11 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
or we could've had place names like
kickatinalong or,
avagoyamug or,
thislldomea.
 
regards RM
 
 
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I expect we would have things like woolloomoolloo, widgiemooltha, coweramup and indooroopilly just to mention some better known ozzie placenames.  
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of arky dave
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:40 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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G'DAY TO ALL:
         I see ya'll reporting on a solar eclipse. We don't see them very often here. When an event happens,(for lack of equipment) my favorite way to view it(partial solar eclipse) is to pour an amount of water on the sunny part of our carport; and to see the eclipse in the reflection of the water. I remember probably abt. 12 yrs. ago, we here were able to see an almost total lunar eclipse. I and some friends viewed the event with a pair of binoculars. Does Australia experience many solar/lunar eclipse events?  THANKS for the info. on how those Australian towns got their names. I sort of wonder: What would have Australians named those towns, if the British were not involved?  THIS weekend in the US is Memorial Day (Honoring Military Veterans). So, I want to say a big THANK YOU to those Veterans (and those still active) in the Australian Military. THANKS for being on "our" side during WW2, and THANKS for being such great friends!
          WITH DEEPEST REGARDS!  David Powell
From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Radio Communications Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 19:47:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Codans by memory are between 100-150w standard. My mobile at the moment is only 20w but I am looking at a linear between 100 and 200 watts. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Hector Pascal Sent: Friday, 24 May 2002 1:00 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Radio Communications >Will have to check once again, communications like this are usually 100w >but >may be 500w. 100w should be plenty down there. You'll need a pretty high duty power supply to get 500 watts mobile! Somewhere in the order of 42 amps peak (for a 12v supply)...100 watts should be alright, though, and provide a good signal in most conditions, I think...But you might want a spare car battery handy :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: aus-wx: Forecasting the weather Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 23:43:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 May 2002 13:44:24.0318 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D7EB1E0:01C20329] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi all,

Just wondering how many people have seen this...

http://www.bom.gov.au/info/ftweather/

Its a BoM online course for forecasting the weather..., I have read over some of it and it looks very usefull, i will go right through it when i get some time on my hands...

Cheers
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Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 23:51:50 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Radio Communications Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:59 PM 24/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >>Will have to check once again, communications like this are usually 100w but >>may be 500w. 100w should be plenty down there. > >You'll need a pretty high duty power supply to get 500 watts mobile! >Somewhere in the order of 42 amps peak (for a 12v supply)...100 watts >should be alright, though, and provide a good signal in most conditions, I >think...But you might want a spare car battery handy :) Well, I always used a rough rule of thumb - 1A for every 5W transmitted power (for 13.8V gear) - and most transmitters are at that level, or slightly less. That means around 100A at 13.8V for 500W! I've never used more than 100W on HF, and that 100W works very well (actually for my mobile trip around Tassie, I was limited to 30-40W, due to voltage drop in the electrical system). Still managed to get back to Melbourne every time. :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: What will it take.. Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 01:07:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Geez that is one mother of a low there. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Keith Barnett Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 6:25 PM To: Weather list Subject: aus-wx: What will it take.. to dislodge this? http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp I think it's partly why we are predicted to be in for a wet week... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned by Norton AntiVirus and is certified to be free of viruses. Keith Barnett Weather fanatic and classical piano player +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: COLD WX SCENARIO Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 15:33:10 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI:
      In my years of wx observation here, it seems that when a vigorous (Canadian/Arctic) cold front comes through, that the low temp. for the event happens on the 2nd morning after passage. The scenario goes like this: (In January); lets say it's a Monday; at midday the temp. is an unseasonably warm 65F(18.3C), the front hits, an amount of rain in thunderstorm, rapid-but brief-temp. drop, rain tapers down, the next day (Tuesday) the temps. slowly fall all day, as cold air pours in on gusty N/NW winds with drizzle & fog. Around sunset, the winds abate and clouds clear out; radiational cooling takes place and the low on the Wednesday morning bottoms out, at say, 20F(-6.6C). (The next morn's low would be a little warmer). Modifying YOUR temps., would this be a common scenario in Australia?   David Powell.
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: COLD WX SCENARIO PT.2 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 15:52:53 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello:
       To elaborate on my earlier Cold Wx Scenario:
 An example of this would be: On Sat., Dec. 4,1999, before the front hit the high was 64F(17.7C), the front came through, 1.85IN(46.9mm)rain, the temps. fell; the *Overall Low was 45F(7.2C) at 11:51 P.M. Sun., Dec. 5th: the *Overall High was 45F(7.2C) at 12:01 A.M., damp with gusty North winds, slow temp. fall; the *Overall Low was 33F(0.5C) at 11:58 P.M., the morning low for Monday, December 6th was 24F(-4.4C). *=I use the term Overall High to denote the highest temp. of the day which is higher than the daytime high. *=I use the term Overall Low to denote the absolute lowest temp. of the day which is lower than the morn. or daytime low. Some of these events can drop the temps. by 50F or more. MUCH greater temp. falls are experienced in the Northern states such as Montana and North Dakota. What is the biggest temp. drop that ya'll know of?
C-Ya'll Later  David Powell
From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: COLD WX SCENARIO PT.2 Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 12:33:13 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Big temperature drops are common in Southern Australian states when the air flow changes from hot northerly to cold
southerly suddenly on a frontal change. (spring to Autumn). The big changes in temperature are a characteristic of
Melbourne's climate in particular.  But as you suggest, some US states can have dramatic temperature changes
from balmy sunshine to snow in 24hrs.  In New Zealand, east coast locations can experience sudden drops in
temperature. Christchurch city once experienced a temperature drop from 40C to 17C in two hours. That's an extreme case.
Regards
Steven Williams
New Zealand
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 8:52 AM
Subject: aus-wx: COLD WX SCENARIO PT.2

Hello:
       To elaborate on my earlier Cold Wx Scenario:
 An example of this would be: On Sat., Dec. 4,1999, before the front hit the high was 64F(17.7C), the front came through, 1.85IN(46.9mm)rain, the temps. fell; the *Overall Low was 45F(7.2C) at 11:51 P.M. Sun., Dec. 5th: the *Overall High was 45F(7.2C) at 12:01 A.M., damp with gusty North winds, slow temp. fall; the *Overall Low was 33F(0.5C) at 11:58 P.M., the morning low for Monday, December 6th was 24F(-4.4C). *=I use the term Overall High to denote the highest temp. of the day which is higher than the daytime high. *=I use the term Overall Low to denote the absolute lowest temp. of the day which is lower than the morn. or daytime low. Some of these events can drop the temps. by 50F or more. MUCH greater temp. falls are experienced in the Northern states such as Montana and North Dakota. What is the biggest temp. drop that ya'll know of?
C-Ya'll Later  David Powell
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 10:46:37 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: COLD WX SCENARIO PT.2 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:33 PM 25/05/2002 +1200, you wrote: >Big temperature drops are common in Southern Australian states when the >air flow changes from hot northerly to cold >southerly suddenly on a frontal change. (spring to Autumn). The big >changes in temperature are a characteristic of 40C down to the low 20's within 30 minutes is quite common in Melbourne during summer. Even a weak change will manage a 10C drop in 10-20 minutes. The effect of a cold front arriving here feels exactly like someone turned the aircon on, you just get this cool wind in the middle of the heat, then everything cools down dramatically. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: TEMP PROB Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 20:19:34 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Greetings: Re. John Woodbridge or anyone else:
         In an earlier message, I mentioned that I have a battery-powered indoor/outdoor digital thermometer. The device works fine most of the time, but occasionally a "glitch"(false reading) takes place. An example would be just today(May 24), the morning low (as reported by KENA) was 58F(14.4C), when I hit the button on the device, it indicated a morning low of 38.2F(3.4C). These occurrences are exasperating! I was wondering what would cause this? Would this be a defect with the device. There have been NO "glitches" on  High temp. readings. Since Feb. 20, 2001, this device has "glitched" on the low temp. 35 times. I change the batteries regularly. Is there anything I can do. (The "glitch" lows are usually between 36F and 38F).
 THANKS     David Powell
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: MENA TEMP. DROP Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 21:34:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Good Evening:
        Mena doesn't have the ENORMOUS temp. drops of the Northern states, due to the fact that we are so far south that the polar airmass has some chance to modify. One of the biggest recent temp. drops in Mena happened on Jan. 18,1996. The Overall High (at 12:01 A.M.) was 61F(16.1C), by sunrise(the Day High, at 7:25 A.M.) the temp. had fallen to 24F(-4.4C), the Low temp. was actually around 1 P.M., at 12F(-11.1C), the temp. rose slightly, then started a slow fall; the morn. low for Jan. 19 was 5F(-15.0C). A true ARCTIC EXPRESS! The temp. fell from 51F(10.5C) at 5 A.M. to 14F(-10.0C) at 12NOON. You can actually watch conditions change right before your eyes! What is the warmest temp. that ya'll have seen it SNOW? We have had snow flurries here with a temp. of 36F(2.2C).
        Hope ya'll have a wonderful Autumn! David Powell
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: ACCURACY Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 22:27:06 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey There:
        I subscribe to the major newspaper in Arkansas; the ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE,(published in Little Rock.) On the weather page, the World temps.(high/low) are forecasts instead of actual temps. The forecast for Sydney for Sunday, May 19 was: showers, high of 60F(15.5C) and a low of 48F(8.8C). How close was this to actual? Sydney is the only Australian town that a forecast is given for. Sunday is the most recent date I could get(for some reason the forecast for Sydney is usually marred by typographical error, ex. today=High 52F/Low 52F).
        C-Ya'll later  David Powell
From: "Craig Arthur" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACCURACY Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 13:40:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Dave,
Surprisingly, the forecast for Sydney isn't too far off today! The temp has been hovering around 13C, 55F for most of the day so far largely due to southeast winds and showers across the city...
 
Craig Arthur
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: aus-wx: ACCURACY

Hey There:
        I subscribe to the major newspaper in Arkansas; the ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE,(published in Little Rock.) On the weather page, the World temps.(high/low) are forecasts instead of actual temps. The forecast for Sydney for Sunday, May 19 was: showers, high of 60F(15.5C) and a low of 48F(8.8C). How close was this to actual? Sydney is the only Australian town that a forecast is given for. Sunday is the most recent date I could get(for some reason the forecast for Sydney is usually marred by typographical error, ex. today=High 52F/Low 52F).
        C-Ya'll later  David Powell
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Tropo bits. Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 14:14:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 May 2002 04:15:38.0232 (UTC) FILETIME=[D32CF780:01C203A2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
Its interesting to see a persistent arm of the ITCZ running eastward from New Guinea half way across the south Pacific between 10 south and 15 south and so late in the season for the southern hemisphere, also a small disturbance just east of New Guinea (near 10 south) has developed some upper outflow features although surface convergence appears rather limited. regards Clyve H.
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: RAIN TO SNOW Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 00:11:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Howdy:
         I recall another fascinating day where I watched the weather change before my eyes. A Canadian cold front came through on Jan. 13, 1992. At 12NOON the temp. was 47F(8.3C) with a thunderstorm w/small hail; then a slight bit of clearing; at 3P.M. the clouds returned and we had heavy SNOW flurries and 36F(2.2C). I knew what was coming, so I watched the SNOW event as I was parked in Janssen Park. A very fascinating sight!  Another very strange sight:(Caused by yet another cold front) on the night of Jan. 16, 1994 we had thunder/lightning rain/sleet and 34F(1.1C)! In the areas around the Rocky Mtns., I've heard of thundersnow!(thunder/lightning and heavy snow). I've never seen that happen, but I think it'd be neat to watch. Does Australia get thundersnow?
Enjoy your day   David Powell
From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tropo bits. Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 15:23:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
JTWC http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/jtwc.html have started to show keen interest in this area also.....
 
1. FORMATION OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE IS POSSIBLE WITHIN 145 NM EITHER SIDE OF A LINE FROM 7.0S7 155.0E1 TO 9.4S3 151.7E4 WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. AVAILABLE DATA DOES NOT JUSTIFY ISSUANCE OF NUMBERED TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNINGS AT THIS TIME. WINDS IN THE AREA ARE ESTIMATED TO BE 25 TO 30 KNOTS. METSAT IMAGERY AT 250030Z0 INDICATES THAT A CIRCULATION CENTER IS LOCATED NEAR 7.5S2 154.0E0. THE SYSTEM IS MOVING WESTWARD AT 04 KNOTS. THE NEXT SATELLITE INVESTIGATION IS SCHEDULED FOR 260000Z8.
2. REMARKS:
MULTI-SPECTRAL ANIMATION AND A 37 GHZ TRMM PASS DEPICT A DEVELOPING BANDING FEATURE WRAPPING IN TOWARD THE LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC) FROM THE SOUTHEAST. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 25 TO 30 KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED AT 1000 MB. THE SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO REMAIN BENEATH THE SUB-EQUATORIAL RIDGE. THEREFORE, THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS GOOD.
 
 
and here for imagery, click on 91P.INVEST in the frame on the left
Jane
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 2:14 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Tropo bits.

Hi all.
Its interesting to see a persistent arm of the ITCZ running eastward from New Guinea half way across the south Pacific between 10 south and 15 south and so late in the season for the southern hemisphere, also a small disturbance just east of New Guinea (near 10 south) has developed some upper outflow features although surface convergence appears rather limited. regards Clyve H.
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 15:57:31 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather Subject: aus-wx: Gliding Program - 5:30pm Sat 25 May Channel 9 - Sydney Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Not weather - but might interest some. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: MODIFIED AIR Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 14:55:49 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello from Mena:
       To give you an idea of how our altitude modifies our weather: I observed something I can't recall happening before(at least not since 1988 or before). For the month of August, 1999, EVERY DAY of the month had a high of at least 90F(32.2C). The highest temp. was 101F(38.3C) on Aug. 8th. The AVG. HIGH for the month was 94.9F(34.9C). This was in a stretch of 42 consecutive days of 90F+ highs. This may not sound like much, but even in the hottest months, we have at least 1 day of below 90F highs.(The first time I've ever seen a WHOLE MONTH w/90F+ highs). When we get to 100F, you can be sure that other lower areas of the state are at 105F or higher.
      Hoping all is well    David Powell
From: "Shane Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: T.C for PNG Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 10:15:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi All.  Finally the tropical disturbance hanging aroung the solomomn islands has finally made it to T.C Status.
 
A Tropical Cyclone warning has been issued by the Papua New Guinea weather service. However, at time of issue of this forecast, warning has not been transmitted due to computer problems in Papua New Guinea.

PART 2  SITUATION
At 251800UTC...Tropical cyclone "Upia" central pressure 997 hPa located 08.55S
153.3E is currently moving south west at 5 knots. Expected to intensify in the
next 24 hours. Trough extends from 7S145E to tropical cyclone to 4S170E.
 
 
 
Not bad for only 4 days from winter. Too bad for their Computers however.
 
 
Regards Shane
X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 12:45:19 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide Sunday Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all For the second day in a row cloud streets are forming with some nice convection over Adelaide, especially the hills. Must be some cooling at higher levels. Didn't amount to anything yesterday....we will see. Quite mild here at 19 degrees. Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide Sunday Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 15:57:06 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Phil, The air over Adelaide is unstable upto 2800m so its not suprising you've got some nice cumulus. Very stable above 2800m so no showers. Enjoy the sunshine. Over here in NZ we are in the grip of a cold southwester with showers. There has been sleet to sealevel in Otago today. Cheers Steven Williams Weather watcher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bagust" To: Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide Sunday > Hi all > > For the second day in a row cloud streets are forming with some nice > convection over Adelaide, especially the hills. Must be some cooling at > higher levels. Didn't amount to anything yesterday....we will see. Quite > mild here at 19 degrees. > > Phil > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: DESERTLAND Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 00:26:23 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI ALL:
      I remember when I was in school, that one of my science teachers said that if it wasn't for the Gulf of Mexico that Arkansas is in thr right latitude/longitude to be desertland. Is this true? What do ya'll think? I SINCERELY HOPE that my frequent posts haven't become a nuisance; it's just that I am a bloomin' wx nut, and I get to interact with other avid weather fanatics. None of my friends here share my deep wx interest. I LOVE and greatly enjoy ALL THINGS AUSTRALIAN! ("Crocodile Dundee" movies, AFL Football, I'm beginning to enjoy rugby, as I'm learning the finer points of the game; I listen to RADIO AUSTRALIA; I find myself frequently whistling the song "Waltzing Matilda"--which I now have the words to; and of course  I find your weather patterns fascinating). GOODONYA AUSSIES! P.S. In the "Crocodile Dundee" movies, there was mention of Walkabout Creek in the NT, and also mention of Running River; are these real places?--if not, where in Australia was it filmed? I also enjoy the Aussie Slang page. One of my grannies favorite sayings was "Happy as a dead pig in the sunshine". Your Aus. fan   David Powell
From: "Steven Williams" To: Cc: "Steven Williams" Subject: aus-wx: Severe weather advisory for Snow (NZ) Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 17:47:38 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Special Weather Advisory

SPECIAL WEATHER ADVISORY FOR FLD SLD OTA CNY 
ISSUED BY METSERVICE AT 12:35pm Sunday 26-May-2002

WINTRY WEATHER IN THE SOUTH UNTIL AT LEAST WEDNESDAY

Forecast  {B-}:

MetService can see no real let up to the wintry conditions in
Southland, much of Fiordland and Otago until at least Wednesday, and
there will be some more brief cold outbreaks in Canterbury as well.

Residents and farmers in the south should be prepared for further
spells of wintry showers with hail and sleet to sea level at times. 
Snowfalls will be mostly above about 200 metres but settling to lower
levels briefly.

Bitterly cold southwest winds are likely to peak overnight Monday or
early Tuesday as a low passes east of Otago, and could reach severe
gale in exposed areas of Southland, south Otago and Dunedin.  

This low is presently far to the south of the Southern Ocean and
already heavy southerly swells can be expected to build further about
Stewart Island and on southern and eastern coasts of the South Island.  
Low lying coastal areas are especially vulnerable near the time of
high tides during the next few days.  
Conditions will be very rough for coastal shipping.

In Canterbury, although long fine spells are expected, brief cold
southerly outbreaks will bring cold rain at times and some snow to
between 500 and 700 metres.

Forecasters advise residents, travellers and yachtsman and other
mariners in these areas to check the latest forecasts and heed
warnings.

The next Special Weather Advisory will be issued by 12:02 Monday
27-May-2002

Contact person : Ian Miller or John Crouch

Telephone      : (04)4700767

From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: katoomba Weather Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 15:47:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI All.
 
Could someone confirm the weather happening in Katoomba at this present time.. Just hearing a stream from a scanner in Sydney, ambos stated was snowing there at the moment. 
 
Thanks
Dave
Bathurst
 
 
From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 15:57:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 May 2002 05:57:32.0339 (UTC) FILETIME=[39E16830:01C2047A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Yep,
 
A late May TC in the Soloman group. Not the name I was expecting (have I missed one somewhere ?)
 
I think we have all been watching this but being rather guarded on any predictions.
 
How many TC's globally is that for May ? (traditionally the world's quietest month).
 
 
 
Regards
Simon
 
X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 18:21:10 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: aus-wx: Snow in the Deep south Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dunedin and Invercargill suffering from cold wintry conditions at the moment. Dunedin cutoff by cold snowy conditions making motoring difficult on the Kilmog, north of the city. Nothing here in Christchurch at the moment but could be some 'coldies' offshore! System a bit too far east for some real humdinger of a cold wintry blast to happen?. JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "TWC" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: katoomba Weather Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 16:17:06 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Seems highly unlikely by looking at the 4pm obs:
7.8C, 6.9C dp, light ENE breeze of 3 kts.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:47 PM
Subject: aus-wx: katoomba Weather

HI All.
 
Could someone confirm the weather happening in Katoomba at this present time.. Just hearing a stream from a scanner in Sydney, ambos stated was snowing there at the moment. 
 
Thanks
Dave
Bathurst
 
 
From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: katoomba Weather Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 16:27:16 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI.
Yeh i didnt really think it was possible..  there wld be alot more talk on wx list if it was..  
 
Thanks
Dave
 
----- Original Message -----
From: TWC
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: katoomba Weather

Seems highly unlikely by looking at the 4pm obs:
7.8C, 6.9C dp, light ENE breeze of 3 kts.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:47 PM
Subject: aus-wx: katoomba Weather

HI All.
 
Could someone confirm the weather happening in Katoomba at this present time.. Just hearing a stream from a scanner in Sydney, ambos stated was snowing there at the moment. 
 
Thanks
Dave
Bathurst
 
 
From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: DESERTLAND Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 18:05:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Whatever you do Dave, don't stop sending your very informative and enthusiastic messages! You will have to come here one day..I'm sure a lot of people would love to meet you.
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:26 PM
Subject: aus-wx: DESERTLAND

HI ALL:
      I remember when I was in school, that one of my science teachers said that if it wasn't for the Gulf of Mexico that Arkansas is in thr right latitude/longitude to be desertland. Is this true? What do ya'll think? I SINCERELY HOPE that my frequent posts haven't become a nuisance; it's just that I am a bloomin' wx nut, and I get to interact with other avid weather fanatics. None of my friends here share my deep wx interest. I LOVE and greatly enjoy ALL THINGS AUSTRALIAN! ("Crocodile Dundee" movies, AFL Football, I'm beginning to enjoy rugby, as I'm learning the finer points of the game; I listen to RADIO AUSTRALIA; I find myself frequently whistling the song "Waltzing Matilda"--which I now have the words to; and of course  I find your weather patterns fascinating). GOODONYA AUSSIES! P.S. In the "Crocodile Dundee" movies, there was mention of Walkabout Creek in the NT, and also mention of Running River; are these real places?--if not, where in Australia was it filmed? I also enjoy the Aussie Slang page. One of my grannies favorite sayings was "Happy as a dead pig in the sunshine". Your Aus. fan   David Powell
From: "Shane Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 19:06:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Simon.
              T.C Upia moving SSE at 4 knots.  At this time of the year though I wonder if conditions are still favourable for good cyclone development over the Coral Sea basin.  Might be a fizzer already at 1000hpa.  :-(.
 
Well wait and see.
 
 
Shane
 
Gold Coast QLD
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Yep,
 
A late May TC in the Soloman group. Not the name I was expecting (have I missed one somewhere ?)
 
I think we have all been watching this but being rather guarded on any predictions.
 
How many TC's globally is that for May ? (traditionally the world's quietest month).
 
 
 
Regards
Simon
 
From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 19:20:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The Queensland BoM doesn't even mention it in its 4 day outlook so apparently isn't taking the cyclone very seriously.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Hi Simon.
              T.C Upia moving SSE at 4 knots.  At this time of the year though I wonder if conditions are still favourable for good cyclone development over the Coral Sea basin.  Might be a fizzer already at 1000hpa.  :-(.
 
Well wait and see.
 
 
Shane
 
Gold Coast QLD
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Yep,
 
A late May TC in the Soloman group. Not the name I was expecting (have I missed one somewhere ?)
 
I think we have all been watching this but being rather guarded on any predictions.
 
How many TC's globally is that for May ? (traditionally the world's quietest month).
 
 
 
Regards
Simon
 
From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 19:45:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 May 2002 09:45:36.0147 (UTC) FILETIME=[1610CE30:01C2049A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Shane &  Keith
 
Can't see Upia developing much more given the strong upper winds to the near south that will either sheer the system or take it rapidly toward the SSE.
 
Nevertheless the late season TC is rather noteworthy.
 
I wonder whether PNG uses its names as QLD TC's move into its waters (like those TC's in the Indian Ocean). That may then acccount for the list name discrepancy.
 
 
 
 
Regards
Simon 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Hi Simon.
              T.C Upia moving SSE at 4 knots.  At this time of the year though I wonder if conditions are still favourable for good cyclone development over the Coral Sea basin.  Might be a fizzer already at 1000hpa.  :-(.
 
Well wait and see.
 
 
Shane
 
Gold Coast QLD
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Yep,
 
A late May TC in the Soloman group. Not the name I was expecting (have I missed one somewhere ?)
 
I think we have all been watching this but being rather guarded on any predictions.
 
How many TC's globally is that for May ? (traditionally the world's quietest month).
 
 
 
Regards
Simon
 
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: DESERTLAND Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 20:15:02 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hi  arky,
another great saying, dry as a dead dingoes donger, lol , sounds to me like your ready to pack your bags and move , if you're ever come to oz there's  a fart sac and grub waitin' for you here.
 
regards RM
        ( Thunda Hunta )
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 2:56 PM
Subject: aus-wx: DESERTLAND

HI ALL:
      I remember when I was in school, that one of my science teachers said that if it wasn't for the Gulf of Mexico that Arkansas is in thr right latitude/longitude to be desertland. Is this true? What do ya'll think? I SINCERELY HOPE that my frequent posts haven't become a nuisance; it's just that I am a bloomin' wx nut, and I get to interact with other avid weather fanatics. None of my friends here share my deep wx interest. I LOVE and greatly enjoy ALL THINGS AUSTRALIAN! ("Crocodile Dundee" movies, AFL Football, I'm beginning to enjoy rugby, as I'm learning the finer points of the game; I listen to RADIO AUSTRALIA; I find myself frequently whistling the song "Waltzing Matilda"--which I now have the words to; and of course  I find your weather patterns fascinating). GOODONYA AUSSIES! P.S. In the "Crocodile Dundee" movies, there was mention of Walkabout Creek in the NT, and also mention of Running River; are these real places?--if not, where in Australia was it filmed? I also enjoy the Aussie Slang page. One of my grannies favorite sayings was "Happy as a dead pig in the sunshine". Your Aus. fan   David Powell
From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 21:23:44 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Is there a system/pattern to naming TC?
And here all along i thought someone there at the BOM just named it after their favourite cat or something! :P
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Shane &  Keith
 
Can't see Upia developing much more given the strong upper winds to the near south that will either sheer the system or take it rapidly toward the SSE.
 
Nevertheless the late season TC is rather noteworthy.
 
I wonder whether PNG uses its names as QLD TC's move into its waters (like those TC's in the Indian Ocean). That may then acccount for the list name discrepancy.
 
 
 
 
Regards
Simon 
From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Penumbral Lunar Eclipse Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 21:59:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

May's Penumbral Lunar Eclipse
By Roger W. Sinnott

Area of visibility of the penumbral lunar eclipse.
 Sky & Telescope illustration.
 
 
 
On May 26th, the Moon passes through the outer fringe (penumbra) of the Earth’s shadow. There will be no dramatic change in the full Moon’s appearance — just a subtle shading along the southern third or so of the lunar disk.

The Moon starts to enter the penumbra at 10:13 Universal Time and completely leaves it at 13:54, but observers will not be able to see or time these contacts. Only for about a half hour centered on 12:03 UT will the eclipse be noticeable, and only to those on Pacific Ocean islands or bordering regions (see the globe above). Skywatchers in Japan and Australia can view this event on the evening of May 26th; east of the International Date Line it takes place before dawn on the 26th. http://skyandtelescope.com/observing/objects/eclipses/article_578_1.asp


 
 
Here is a link to work out the correct time :
Here in Australia it is 10 pm eastern standard time when the greatest eclipse is visible.
 
To view where in the world it is visible, check this link :
 
These are also interesting links :
 
Love
Sha
 

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Sounds like a good theory, but I do not think it's as simple as that. That theory relates to Arkansas being located under the high pressure belts, and desert being under them. Half of China could also qualify, but it certainly is not desert.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:26 PM
Subject: aus-wx: DESERTLAND

HI ALL:
      I remember when I was in school, that one of my science teachers said that if it wasn't for the Gulf of Mexico that Arkansas is in thr right latitude/longitude to be desertland. Is this true? What do ya'll think? I SINCERELY HOPE that my frequent posts haven't become a nuisance; it's just that I am a bloomin' wx nut, and I get to interact with other avid weather fanatics. None of my friends here share my deep wx interest. I LOVE and greatly enjoy ALL THINGS AUSTRALIAN! ("Crocodile Dundee" movies, AFL Football, I'm beginning to enjoy rugby, as I'm learning the finer points of the game; I listen to RADIO AUSTRALIA; I find myself frequently whistling the song "Waltzing Matilda"--which I now have the words to; and of course  I find your weather patterns fascinating). GOODONYA AUSSIES! P.S. In the "Crocodile Dundee" movies, there was mention of Walkabout Creek in the NT, and also mention of Running River; are these real places?--if not, where in Australia was it filmed? I also enjoy the Aussie Slang page. One of my grannies favorite sayings was "Happy as a dead pig in the sunshine". Your Aus. fan   David Powell
From: "Carolyn" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Re: Penumbral Lunar Eclipse Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 23:20:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Nothing up my way Sha, just a beautiful full moon......
 
Carolyn
Cessnock
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Sha
Sent: Sunday, 26 May 2002 10:57 PM
To: Crystal Unicorns
Subject: aus-wx: Re: Penumbral Lunar Eclipse

Hi guys
 
I'm sorry.  I just checked the link I gave you for the time and realised that I had forgotten to change it for the 12.00 UTC - instead it was set for 0.00 UTC.  When I first did it, I hadn't picked it up because I knew it was 10.00 here and it didn't register with me immediately that I had given 10.00 am instead of pm.
 
Here is the corrected link :
 
Hope that it hasn't thrown any of you out :(
 
Anyway ..... I have been out checking for the last hour here ...... no sign of any eclipse at all.  We have crystal clear skies, so I am puzzled as to just what is visible ???  Anybody else see anything interesting ?

Love
Sha
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I guess it must have been a very minor event then Carolyn ???  We also have a magical, bright full moon visible.  I read that it would most likely only be visible as an eclipse for about a half hour ..... but as I said .... nothing up here in SE Qld.
 
Oh well .... never mind :)
 
Love
Sha
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 11:20 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Re: Penumbral Lunar Eclipse

Nothing up my way Sha, just a beautiful full moon......
 
Carolyn
Cessnock
 

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X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 23:51:44 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: Penumbral Lunar Eclipse Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Sha. Don't be too disappointed - with this kind of eclipse all one notices is that the Moon is not quite as bright as usual at mid-eclipse, and this is only usually discernable if you are outdoors for some time before hand and notice the subtle change in brightness as the eclipse proceeds, which is a good way freeze your butt off at the moment! There is no distinct shadow or anything like that as the Moon remains in direct sunshine the whole time as it does not enter the central core of the Earth's shadow - it is just that if you are a keen observer you will notice that the Moon is unevenly lit for a while. If you were standing on the Moon you would experience a partial Solar Eclipse with some of Solar disk visible at all times along the edge of the Earth's disk. Regards, Carl. > Hi guys I'm sorry. I just checked the link I gave you for the >time and realised that I had forgotten to change it for the 12.00 UTC - >instead it was set for 0.00 UTC. When I first did it, I hadn't picked it >up because I knew it was 10.00 here and it didn't register with me >immediately that I had given 10.00 am instead of pm. Here is the >corrected link : >http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=26&month=5&year=2002&ho >ur=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 Hope that it hasn't thrown any of you out :( >Anyway ..... I have been out checking for the last hour here ...... no >sign of any eclipse at all. We have crystal clear skies, so I am puzzled >as to just what is visible ??? Anybody else see anything interesting ? > >Love Sha ----- >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: 24/05/2002 ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm Weather-Ezine LR forecasting archives: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ezines/ezineindex.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 23:58:38 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: Penumbral Lunar Eclipse Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have a beaut moon in Sydney, plenty of light, I can read by it ! PC +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Carolyn" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Re: Penumbral Lunar Eclipse Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 00:02:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Oh well Sha., after the last one anything is a disappointment!!!  I was outside lying in a beanbag with a telescope watching......so it is fun to try anyway.....  :-)
 
Carolyn
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Sent: Sunday, 26 May 2002 11:31 PM
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I guess it must have been a very minor event then Carolyn ???  We also have a magical, bright full moon visible.  I read that it would most likely only be visible as an eclipse for about a half hour ..... but as I said .... nothing up here in SE Qld.
 
Oh well .... never mind :)
 
Love
Sha
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 11:20 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Re: Penumbral Lunar Eclipse

Nothing up my way Sha, just a beautiful full moon......
 
Carolyn
Cessnock
 

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From: "Sha" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Penumbral Lunar Eclipse Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 00:04:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Oh .. many thanks for explaining that Carl :) I knew it wasn't as apparent as a full eclipse, but I was expecting a shadow across the moon to appear. It was too cold here to stand out for any length of time ....... I sure wasn't going to "freeze my butt off" , so for the few minutes each time I went out, obviously it would not have been possible to gauge any difference in brightness. Thanks heaps for explaining this, as I was puzzled. Love Sha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Smith" To: Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 11:51 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: Penumbral Lunar Eclipse Hi Sha. Don't be too disappointed - with this kind of eclipse all one notices is that the Moon is not quite as bright as usual at mid-eclipse, and this is only usually discernable if you are outdoors for some time before hand and notice the subtle change in brightness as the eclipse proceeds, which is a good way freeze your butt off at the moment! There is no distinct shadow or anything like that as the Moon remains in direct sunshine the whole time as it does not enter the central core of the Earth's shadow - it is just that if you are a keen observer you will notice that the Moon is unevenly lit for a while. If you were standing on the Moon you would experience a partial Solar Eclipse with some of Solar disk visible at all times along the edge of the Earth's disk. Regards, Carl. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: 25/05/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.112.97] From: "Ben Jerrems" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: new snaps! Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 01:21:31 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 May 2002 15:21:31.0862 (UTC) FILETIME=[03CED760:01C204C9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: BURN BAN: Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 12:51:16 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
G'DAY:
         I was wondering, during dry times are areas of Australia put under burn bans? Usually 1 or 2 times here during a prolonged dry period, the county judge will issue a burn ban for our town/county, until sufficient rainfall occurs. Even in the driest months, we seldom go for more than 14 days without measurable rain. One of the driest months recently was August, 2000. The monthly rain was .10IN(2.54mm) and came in a brief shower on the 22nd. A recent long dry spell was 25 straight rainless days from Oct.14 through Nov. 7, 2001. To tell you how we've been blessed by abundant rainfall: From 1990-1999, Mena only had 2 years(1991,1992) of below normal rainfall. Highest rain during that time was in 1990 with 76.96IN(1,954.7mm)
        Hope all have a beauty of a week    David Powell   P.S. Most of our summertime rain comes as a result of daytime heating/instability showers that pop-up suddenly and die out around sunset.
Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 04:05:14 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: BURN BAN: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=10&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=total+fire+ban&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Steven Williams" To: Cc: "Steven Williams" Subject: aus-wx: Low freezing level Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 07:32:20 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The freezing level at Invercargill is 962mbs and with surface pressure at 986mbs I guess that puts the height of
the freezing level at about 200m. Its a showery day in the west and south of the country with snow from near 
sea level is the south to about 1500m over the North island high country.
From a rain swept Auckland......
Steven Williams
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: DRY WX Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 16:01:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Salutations:
        THANKS for the burn ban info. Our bans are mainly because of thr rural area and dur to the fact that most of the county is taken up by the Ouachita (pronounced Wah-she-taw) National Forest. In some years, dry wx has almost postponed the city fireworks display on July 4th. There was a fear of widespread forest fires throughout Ark. due to the enormous amount of debris (limbs/trees) on the forest floor after the back-to-back Dec. 2000 ice storms; thankfully the fires that did occur were minor. FYI= Polk County has a size of 860 square miles(2,227.9 sq km), making it the 10th largest of Arkansas' 75 counties. The county(pop. abt. 18,500) was created in 1844 and named for then-US president James K. Polk
        C-Ya'll later   David Powell
From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: Special weather advisory for snow (NZ) Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 13:39:34 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Special Weather Advisory

SPECIAL WEATHER ADVISORY FOR FLD SLD OTA CNY 
ISSUED BY METSERVICE AT 12:35pm Sunday 26-May-2002

WINTRY WEATHER IN THE SOUTH UNTIL AT LEAST WEDNESDAY

Forecast  {B-}:

MetService can see no real let up to the wintry conditions in
Southland, much of Fiordland and Otago until at least Wednesday, and
there will be some more brief cold outbreaks in Canterbury as well.

Residents and farmers in the south should be prepared for further
spells of wintry showers with hail and sleet to sea level at times. 
Snowfalls will be mostly above about 200 metres but settling to lower
levels briefly.

Bitterly cold southwest winds are likely to peak overnight Monday or
early Tuesday as a low passes east of Otago, and could reach severe
gale in exposed areas of Southland, south Otago and Dunedin.  

This low is presently far to the south of the Southern Ocean and
already heavy southerly swells can be expected to build further about
Stewart Island and on southern and eastern coasts of the South Island.  
Low lying coastal areas are especially vulnerable near the time of
high tides during the next few days.  
Conditions will be very rough for coastal shipping.

In Canterbury, although long fine spells are expected, brief cold
southerly outbreaks will bring cold rain at times and some snow to
between 500 and 700 metres.

Forecasters advise residents, travellers 
From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: Heavy snow warning (NZ) Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 17:51:33 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HEAVY SNOW WARNING

AREA/S AFFECTED: THE HILLS AND RANGES AND SOUTH OTAGO AND EASTERN
SOUTHLAND,ESPECIALLY AROUND THE CATLINS.

FORECAST:

Some heavy snow showers are expected on Tuesday.  In the 12 hours
from 3am to 3pm Tuesday, 15cm of snow is likely to accumulate above
300 metres, and 5-10 cm at lower levels. 
Lighter snow showers should also continue before and after this time.

NEXT SEVERE WEATHER WARNING WILL BE ISSUED AT OR BEFORE
9:00pm Monday 27-May-2002

Forecast prepared by: John Crouch

X-Originating-IP: [203.54.44.251] From: "Catherine Elliott" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: Penumbral Lunar Eclipse Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 16:33:01 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2002 06:33:01.0375 (UTC) FILETIME=[594C44F0:01C20548] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hey all, The other eclipse was great, my sisters and I sat on our roof with blankets and a pillow each, ordered pizza and drank hot chocolate for about 2 cold hours before and during the eclipse, weird I know but really funny. This was a let down I thought it would be a total eclipse again but never mind maybe next time. Also I have a Q for you all, last year (I may have already mentioned this I'm not sure) my sister was driving down the ??eastern?? freeway (near dandy, langwarrin or cranbourne, up the back somewhere) and she saw what she thought to be a tornado, really dusty and very very windy, she had to pull over cause she couldnt see for about 5 mins, but how can she be sure? what indicators say yes or no? okies thanks for that guys cath _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 16:32:57 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: SA waterspout Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Apparently a sighting of a waterspout off Carickalinga 60km south of Adelaide this afternoon - I can vouch for the convestion that was happening over the area at the time - it was obvious from the Marino coast. Some scattered falls elsewhere. Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: TEMP. CONTRAST Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 02:10:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey, How's It Going?
        One of my favorite things to do in Autumn & Winter: When a severe Arctic cold front is on the move, I like to see the temp. differences at towns behind and ahead of the front. Some of the differences are amazing. One of the biggest temp. contrasts in Ark. happened probably 25 yrs. ago. A polar front was bisecting the state--at 6P.M.--the temp. at Harrison was 40F(4.4C), while 220MI(366.6km) south-ahead of the front-El Dorado was at 85F(29.4C). Of course, Texas-due to its size-would have very large differences. Last Winter(on weather.com), a polar front was plowing through Texas, at Midday, Amarillo had light snow(gusty NW winds) and a temp. of 23F(-5.0C) at the same time,
 Brownsville(on the Mexican border) was sunny at 77F(25.0C). What are some of the biggest contrasts (at the same time) between towns in your States?
         Have a good one   David Powell
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 16:57:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2002 06:59:14.0689 (UTC) FILETIME=[0310EF10:01C2054C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello stargazer and all.
Without being rude, my immediate pronunciation was 'upyaa'.... which seems to fit the rather poor TC season over this region of the southern hemisphere and when you least expect a TC here comes one just to put it ........ see name. regards Clyve H.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Is there a system/pattern to naming TC?
And here all along i thought someone there at the BOM just named it after their favourite cat or something! :P
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Shane &  Keith
 
Can't see Upia developing much more given the strong upper winds to the near south that will either sheer the system or take it rapidly toward the SSE.
 
Nevertheless the late season TC is rather noteworthy.
 
I wonder whether PNG uses its names as QLD TC's move into its waters (like those TC's in the Indian Ocean). That may then acccount for the list name discrepancy.
 
 
 
 
Regards
Simon 
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: TEMP. CONTRAST Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 17:28:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2002 07:30:10.0782 (UTC) FILETIME=[55623FE0:01C20550] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Arky D.
Such contrasts are not known in Australia i.e with below freezing and well above freezing at low levels over a short distance, however, most southern states of Australia especially Victoria and southern New South Wales can experience remarkable temp: drops in summer. This is due to the rather cold southern ocean fringing the south coast of Aus and the super heated interior. When a trough or cold front advances over the south of Australia the thermal contrast across the front can at times be spectacular with pre frontal northerlies generating maximum temps between 38c (100f) 45c+  (110f+) and the following southerly surge dropping the temp to as low as 16c (61f) especially in coastal localities. The most significant temp fall I can recall here in Leopold (south coastal Victoria) was I believe in Jan 1983, that was a local max of 45.7 (112f) and five minutes after the passage of a cold front a temp of 15c (59f). The rapid drop was accompanied by a heavy rain shower. Not all 'cool changes' in summer are accompanied by rain  a number are 'dry' changes due to the very dry (less than 15% humidity) pre frontal north airmass. best wishes Clyve Herbert.
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 5:10 PM
Subject: aus-wx: TEMP. CONTRAST

Hey, How's It Going?
        One of my favorite things to do in Autumn & Winter: When a severe Arctic cold front is on the move, I like to see the temp. differences at towns behind and ahead of the front. Some of the differences are amazing. One of the biggest temp. contrasts in Ark. happened probably 25 yrs. ago. A polar front was bisecting the state--at 6P.M.--the temp. at Harrison was 40F(4.4C), while 220MI(366.6km) south-ahead of the front-El Dorado was at 85F(29.4C). Of course, Texas-due to its size-would have very large differences. Last Winter(on weather.com), a polar front was plowing through Texas, at Midday, Amarillo had light snow(gusty NW winds) and a temp. of 23F(-5.0C) at the same time,
 Brownsville(on the Mexican border) was sunny at 77F(25.0C). What are some of the biggest contrasts (at the same time) between towns in your States?
         Have a good one   David Powell
From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 17:31:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Perhaps the name was given by Fiji?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Shane &  Keith
 
Can't see Upia developing much more given the strong upper winds to the near south that will either sheer the system or take it rapidly toward the SSE.
 
Nevertheless the late season TC is rather noteworthy.
 
I wonder whether PNG uses its names as QLD TC's move into its waters (like those TC's in the Indian Ocean). That may then acccount for the list name discrepancy.
 
 
 
 
Regards
Simon 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Hi Simon.
              T.C Upia moving SSE at 4 knots.  At this time of the year though I wonder if conditions are still favourable for good cyclone development over the Coral Sea basin.  Might be a fizzer already at 1000hpa.  :-(.
 
Well wait and see.
 
 
Shane
 
Gold Coast QLD
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Yep,
 
A late May TC in the Soloman group. Not the name I was expecting (have I missed one somewhere ?)
 
I think we have all been watching this but being rather guarded on any predictions.
 
How many TC's globally is that for May ? (traditionally the world's quietest month).
 
 
 
Regards
Simon
 
From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 17:28:38 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2002 07:28:31.0929 (UTC) FILETIME=[1A767A90:01C20550] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Clive/Stargazer
 
I thought Ooo-pee-a was the way to say it. I'm not sure which is ruder sounding.
 
And Stargazer, definite lists are made (I think the WMO has a say in it) and names are generally allocated according to where they form. However the Phillipines has its own name list exclusive for TC's that move into their waters, but these names are not used by others and La Reunion renames TC's according to their list when they cross into their waters (ie South Eastern Indian Ocean). India and NZ don't provide a list of names.
 
I use a list from The Met Office homepage (the UK equivalent to BoM). I'm sure you can search and find this site fairly easily. Follow the Tropical Cyclone links to find the names. 
 
Regards
Simon
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Hello stargazer and all.
Without being rude, my immediate pronunciation was 'upyaa'.... which seems to fit the rather poor TC season over this region of the southern hemisphere and when you least expect a TC here comes one just to put it ........ see name. regards Clyve H.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Is there a system/pattern to naming TC?
And here all along i thought someone there at the BOM just named it after their favourite cat or something! :P
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Shane &  Keith
 
Can't see Upia developing much more given the strong upper winds to the near south that will either sheer the system or take it rapidly toward the SSE.
 
Nevertheless the late season TC is rather noteworthy.
 
I wonder whether PNG uses its names as QLD TC's move into its waters (like those TC's in the Indian Ocean). That may then acccount for the list name discrepancy.
 
 
 
 
Regards
Simon 
From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 18:06:16 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2002 08:06:08.0828 (UTC) FILETIME=[5BADEFC0:01C20555] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Keith
 
Without wanting to be a name spoiler, the next Fiji name is listed a girl's name starting with the letter Y (although it is about this time of year that new names get selected for the next season). The last Fiji name used was Waka.
 
Upia appears in the PNG list, but six or seven beyond the last used which was Adel.
 
 
Regards
Simon
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Clive/Stargazer
 
I thought Ooo-pee-a was the way to say it. I'm not sure which is ruder sounding.
 
And Stargazer, definite lists are made (I think the WMO has a say in it) and names are generally allocated according to where they form. However the Phillipines has its own name list exclusive for TC's that move into their waters, but these names are not used by others and La Reunion renames TC's according to their list when they cross into their waters (ie South Eastern Indian Ocean). India and NZ don't provide a list of names.
 
I use a list from The Met Office homepage (the UK equivalent to BoM). I'm sure you can search and find this site fairly easily. Follow the Tropical Cyclone links to find the names. 
 
Regards
Simon
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Hello stargazer and all.
Without being rude, my immediate pronunciation was 'upyaa'.... which seems to fit the rather poor TC season over this region of the southern hemisphere and when you least expect a TC here comes one just to put it ........ see name. regards Clyve H.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Is there a system/pattern to naming TC?
And here all along i thought someone there at the BOM just named it after their favourite cat or something! :P
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Shane &  Keith
 
Can't see Upia developing much more given the strong upper winds to the near south that will either sheer the system or take it rapidly toward the SSE.
 
Nevertheless the late season TC is rather noteworthy.
 
I wonder whether PNG uses its names as QLD TC's move into its waters (like those TC's in the Indian Ocean). That may then acccount for the list name discrepancy.
 
 
 
 
Regards
Simon 
From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 18:28:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Oh well, I must admit I hadn't seen the Fiji (or any other) list. In fact I had no idea PNG had one either until this discussion, especially as TCs would be a rare event for it (due to its low latitude). This made me wonder, technically a TC could cross the central highlands of New Guinea (also having regard to a discussion that took place in this forum some time ago about TCs on the equator); if so, imagine the rain that would fall!
At the risk of being tongue-in-cheek, and being a public servant myself (though not for much longer thank goodness!) I wonder if there's been a clerical error somewhere?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Keith
 
Without wanting to be a name spoiler, the next Fiji name is listed a girl's name starting with the letter Y (although it is about this time of year that new names get selected for the next season). The last Fiji name used was Waka.
 
Upia appears in the PNG list, but six or seven beyond the last used which was Adel.
 
 
Regards
Simon
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Clive/Stargazer
 
I thought Ooo-pee-a was the way to say it. I'm not sure which is ruder sounding.
 
And Stargazer, definite lists are made (I think the WMO has a say in it) and names are generally allocated according to where they form. However the Phillipines has its own name list exclusive for TC's that move into their waters, but these names are not used by others and La Reunion renames TC's according to their list when they cross into their waters (ie South Eastern Indian Ocean). India and NZ don't provide a list of names.
 
I use a list from The Met Office homepage (the UK equivalent to BoM). I'm sure you can search and find this site fairly easily. Follow the Tropical Cyclone links to find the names. 
 
Regards
Simon
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Hello stargazer and all.
Without being rude, my immediate pronunciation was 'upyaa'.... which seems to fit the rather poor TC season over this region of the southern hemisphere and when you least expect a TC here comes one just to put it ........ see name. regards Clyve H.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Is there a system/pattern to naming TC?
And here all along i thought someone there at the BOM just named it after their favourite cat or something! :P
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Shane &  Keith
 
Can't see Upia developing much more given the strong upper winds to the near south that will either sheer the system or take it rapidly toward the SSE.
 
Nevertheless the late season TC is rather noteworthy.
 
I wonder whether PNG uses its names as QLD TC's move into its waters (like those TC's in the Indian Ocean). That may then acccount for the list name discrepancy.
 
 
 
 
Regards
Simon 
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: HIGH/LOW PT. 2 Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 03:45:12 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Again Clyve(&All);
       (Getting forgetful in my old age) I forgot to ask ya'll what was the biggest difference between high/low temps. in a day NOT due to frontal activity? In Mena, on an Easter Sunday, abt. 25 yrs. ago, we had a (possibly a record high) high of 88F(31.1C) after a morning low of 35F(1.6C). This was due to a very dry airmass and rapid heating. Mena's avg. daily temp. span is a little over 20 degrees. In towns in the high altitude/dry humidity areas of the West, extreme temp. diff. is pretty common. Ex. Ely, Nevada: July avg. high=87F(30.5C) avg. low=48F(8.8C), avg. July P.M. humidity=22%, their altitude=6,262FT(1,909m).
         Trying to find my brains..lol  David Powell
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: HOT/COLD Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 03:25:54 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Clyve(and all);
         I think if Mena had experienced the temp. drop that you mentioned, we would have had all sorts of extremely mega-severe weather! The only 2 twisters in Mena history both happened in November ahead of severe cold fronts. We also have dry fronts here, normally only a "wind-shift line". (winds going from SW to N-NW). Since ya'll don't have WARM FRONTS, I guess ya'll don't have OCCLUDED fronts either? What would be the wettest town(avg. annual rainfall) that you know of there? In Summer, here, due to daytime heating/instability, we have a 20% chance of rain on most days. Sometimes I wonder how people w/o aircon or fans sleep at night., on some nights around 10P.M., I've seen it still 80F(26.6C) with humidity values of 80%+. Mena, as most of the Southern US in Summer is dominated by the 3H's(Heat, Haze,Humidty).
        Enjoy the week  David Powell
From: "Shane Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 19:12:50 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi All,       
         Looking around various websites for this T.C's information tells me no one knows or takes much notice of whats happening with the Cyclone's direction and future path. 
 
Reason being BOM said SSE  NRL said Southerly and another website said SE !!
 
Im all confused :-(  
 
Currently slow moving.
 
Shane.
 
 
 PART 2  SITUATION
At 27/0600UTC..
Tropical Cyclone "Upia" located near 9.0S 153.9E with central pressure 995 hPa.
Recent and expected movement slow moving. Trough extends from 5S142E to cyclone
to 12S170E.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Perhaps the name was given by Fiji?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Shane &  Keith
 
Can't see Upia developing much more given the strong upper winds to the near south that will either sheer the system or take it rapidly toward the SSE.
 
Nevertheless the late season TC is rather noteworthy.
 
I wonder whether PNG uses its names as QLD TC's move into its waters (like those TC's in the Indian Ocean). That may then acccount for the list name discrepancy.
 
 
 
 
Regards
Simon 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Hi Simon.
              T.C Upia moving SSE at 4 knots.  At this time of the year though I wonder if conditions are still favourable for good cyclone development over the Coral Sea basin.  Might be a fizzer already at 1000hpa.  :-(.
 
Well wait and see.
 
 
Shane
 
Gold Coast QLD
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Yep,
 
A late May TC in the Soloman group. Not the name I was expecting (have I missed one somewhere ?)
 
I think we have all been watching this but being rather guarded on any predictions.
 
How many TC's globally is that for May ? (traditionally the world's quietest month).
 
 
 
Regards
Simon
 
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These are all too frequent in Australia. This past summer saw several days in a row of total fire bans. Regardless un of control bushfires still occurred.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 3:51 AM
Subject: aus-wx: BURN BAN:

G'DAY:
         I was wondering, during dry times are areas of Australia put under burn bans? Usually 1 or 2 times here during a prolonged dry period, the county judge will issue a burn ban for our town/county, until sufficient rainfall occurs. Even in the driest months, we seldom go for more than 14 days without measurable rain. One of the driest months recently was August, 2000. The monthly rain was 10IN(2.54mm) and came in a brief shower on the 22nd. A recent long dry spell was 25 straight rainless days from Oct.14 through Nov. 7, 2001. To tell you how we've been blessed by abundant rainfall: From 1990-1999, Mena only had 2 years(1991,1992) of below normal rainfall. Highest rain during that time was in 1990 with 76.96IN(1,954.7mm)
        Hope all have a beauty of a week    David Powell   P.S. Most of our summertime rain comes as a result of daytime heating/instability showers that pop-up suddenly and die out around sunset.
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 19:23:31 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: BURN BAN: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:51 PM 26/05/2002 -0500, you wrote: >G'DAY: > I was wondering, during dry times are areas of Australia put > under burn bans? Usually 1 or 2 times here during a prolonged dry period, > the county judge will issue a burn ban for our town/county, until > sufficient rainfall occurs. Even in the driest months, we seldom go for > more than 14 We do. There are two levels of ban in Victoria (the SE part of the mainland). The first is fire restrictions, which come into force in late spring or early summer (the exact date is determined by the fire authorities each year), and continue until April 30, unless lifted earlier. The fire restrictions limit what sort of fires may be lit outdoors and specify what firefighting equipment must be carried by people lighting outdoor fires. There are also requirements for equipment that may cause a fire, such as farm machinery. The next level are Total Fire Bans. During a TFB, no fires are permitted outdoors (there are heavy fines if you do light one). TFBs are declared the night before, or early in the morning by the fire authorities if they feel that the weather is severe enough for there to be an extreme risk of fire. Total fire bands can also be cancelled, if the weather turns out to be milder than expected, or after a change or rain. In all cases, the status of a total fire ban is publicised on radio, TV and in newspapers. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 19:29:25 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: TEMP. CONTRAST Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 02:10 AM 27/05/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Hey, How's It Going? > One of my favorite things to do in Autumn & Winter: When a severe > Arctic cold front is on the move, I like to see the temp. differences at > towns behind and ahead of the front. Some of the differences are amazing. > One of the biggest temp. contrasts in Ark. happened probably 25 yrs. ago. > A polar front was bisecting the state--at 6P.M.--the temp. at Harrison > was 40F(4.4C), while 220MI(366.6km) south-ahead of the front-El Dorado > was at 85F(29.4C). Of course, Texas-due to its size-would have very large > differences. Last Winter(on weather.com), a polar front was plowing > through Texas, at Midday, Amarillo had light snow(gusty NW winds) and a > temp. of 23F(-5.0C) at the same time, It's even more amazing here in Melbourne to watch the mercury plummet in real time! :-) It is not uncommon to have the temperature drop by as much as 20C (38F) in 30-40 minutes, with the first 10C within a few minutes. > Brownsville(on the Mexican border) was sunny at 77F(25.0C). What are > some of the biggest contrasts (at the same time) between towns in your States? > Have a good one David Powell Well, I have seen 40C or higher in front of a front, and 25-30C less than 10 miles away, after the front has passed through. One afternoon a couple of years ago, I went to the beach, but left due to a slow moving front passing through. About 3/4 of the way home, we caught up to the front, and the temperature went back from the low 20's to the high 30's within a minute. 15-30 minutes later, after arriving home, the front caught up again, and the mercury plummeted for a second time! 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 19:30:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Shane,
 
It looks as through TC Upia is edging towards an area of stronger shear over the Coral Sea while heading SE into cooler waters - rapid weakening is my guess.
 
What do the 'tropical cyclone' watchers think?  Is this a likely scenario?
 
Jane

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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Hi All,       
         Looking around various websites for this T.C's information tells me no one knows or takes much notice of whats happening with the Cyclone's direction and future path. 
 
Reason being BOM said SSE  NRL said Southerly and another website said SE !!
 
Im all confused :-(  
 
Currently slow moving.
 
Shane.
 
 
 PART 2  SITUATION
At 27/0600UTC..
Tropical Cyclone "Upia" located near 9.0S 153.9E with central pressure 995 hPa.
Recent and expected movement slow moving. Trough extends from 5S142E to cyclone
to 12S170E.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Perhaps the name was given by Fiji?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Shane &  Keith
 
Can't see Upia developing much more given the strong upper winds to the near south that will either sheer the system or take it rapidly toward the SSE.
 
Nevertheless the late season TC is rather noteworthy.
 
I wonder whether PNG uses its names as QLD TC's move into its waters (like those TC's in the Indian Ocean). That may then acccount for the list name discrepancy.
 
 
 
 
Regards
Simon 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Hi Simon.
              T.C Upia moving SSE at 4 knots.  At this time of the year though I wonder if conditions are still favourable for good cyclone development over the Coral Sea basin.  Might be a fizzer already at 1000hpa.  :-(.
 
Well wait and see.
 
 
Shane
 
Gold Coast QLD
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi !

Yep,
 
A late May TC in the Soloman group. Not the name I was expecting (have I missed one somewhere ?)
 
I think we have all been watching this but being rather guarded on any predictions.
 
How many TC's globally is that for May ? (traditionally the world's quietest month).
 
 
 
Regards
Simon
 
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 19:36:14 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: HIGH/LOW PT. 2 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 03:45 AM 27/05/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Hello Again Clyve(&All); > (Getting forgetful in my old age) I forgot to ask ya'll what was > the biggest difference between high/low temps. in a day NOT due to > frontal activity? In Mena, on an Easter Sunday, abt. 25 yrs. ago, we had > a (possibly a record high) high of 88F(31.1C) after a morning low of > 35F(1.6C). This was due to a very dry airmass and rapid heating. Mena's > avg. daily temp. span is a little over 20 degrees. In towns in the high > altitude/dry humidity areas of the West, extreme temp. diff. is pretty > common. Ex. Ely, Nevada: July avg. high=87F(30.5C) avg. low=48F(8.8C), > avg. July P.M. humidity=22%, their altitude=6,262FT(1,909m). I recall a few days with minimums around 10-15C after radiational cooling, followed by maximums in the high 30's after northerly winds sprung up in the morning. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Steven Williams" To: Cc: "Steven Williams" Subject: aus-wx: Bad weather Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 22:06:19 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Some thunder around Auckland and Waikato this evening as coldies develop in the Tasman and drift on in.
I expect there will be some good hail in these storms as the air in turning very cold.
 
The weather for southern NZ gets worse with forecast wind gusts to 110k/hr. I have heard an AA report of
snow drifts upto 1m deep on hill country roads west of Dunedin. Another front is due in Otago in the morning
with snow periods likely to sea level.
 
Cheers from a wintry NZ
Steven W
 
 
From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: BURN BAN: Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 20:39:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
See www.bushfire.nsw.gov.au for more information about bans and regulations.
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Thompson
Sent: Monday, 27 May 2002 7:27 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: BURN BAN:

These are all too frequent in Australia. This past summer saw several days in a row of total fire bans. Regardless un of control bushfires still occurred.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 3:51 AM
Subject: aus-wx: BURN BAN:

G'DAY:
         I was wondering, during dry times are areas of Australia put under burn bans? Usually 1 or 2 times here during a prolonged dry period, the county judge will issue a burn ban for our town/county, until sufficient rainfall occurs. Even in the driest months, we seldom go for more than 14 days without measurable rain. One of the driest months recently was August, 2000. The monthly rain was 10IN(2.54mm) and came in a brief shower on the 22nd. A recent long dry spell was 25 straight rainless days from Oct.14 through Nov. 7, 2001. To tell you how we've been blessed by abundant rainfall: From 1990-1999, Mena only had 2 years(1991,1992) of below normal rainfall. Highest rain during that time was in 1990 with 76.96IN(1,954.7mm)
        Hope all have a beauty of a week    David Powell   P.S. Most of our summertime rain comes as a result of daytime heating/instability showers that pop-up suddenly and die out around sunset.
X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 22:49:58 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bad weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 22:06 27/05/02 +1200, you wrote: > coldies develop in the Tasman and drift on in. I expect there will be >some good hail in these storms as the air in turning very cold. The >weather for southern NZ gets worse with forecast wind gusts to 110k/hr. I >have heard an AA report of snow drifts upto 1m deep on hill country roads >west of Dunedin. Another front is due in Otago in the morning with snow >periods likely to sea level. Cheers from a wintry NZ Steven W Nothing happening in Christchurch Maybe tomorrow may tell JohnGaul NZ Thunderstorm Society +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Drizzly humour Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 21:44:07 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, There's a bit of SDS developing - Anthony Cornelius has donated this bit of humour...........and I felt that it had to be shared!!! SEVERE DRIZZLE WARNING CANCELLATION Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane For the Southeast Coast District The band of severe drizzle that was situated to the west of Brisbane has drifted towards the south and subsequently weakened. Drizzle rates of more than 0.2mm/hr are now unlikely so the severe drizzle warning has been cancelled. No more warnings will be issued unless severe drizzle redevelops. **** NOT FOR BROADCAST AFTER 11pm **** Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 22:05:43 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Drizzly humour Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:44 PM 27/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >SEVERE DRIZZLE WARNING CANCELLATION >Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane >For the Southeast Coast District ROFLMAO!!! :-) Should we issue a severe fog warning for Melbourne too? ;-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: HOT/COLD Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 23:01:34 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
you bet we get occluded fronts here arky, bom dont seem too get too carried away recognising them and most other weather watchers dont seem to care about them too much ether but their increase in frequency about 200-500 kms west of me over the last few years has been driving me absolutley nuts, usually when a cold front comes ripping up from the south west and then bang, just stalls for 24-72hrs, then winds up and comes ripping through with nothing left to dump.
 
regards RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 5:55 PM
Subject: aus-wx: HOT/COLD

Hello Clyve(and all);
         I think if Mena had experienced the temp. drop that you mentioned, we would have had all sorts of extremely mega-severe weather! The only 2 twisters in Mena history both happened in November ahead of severe cold fronts. We also have dry fronts here, normally only a "wind-shift line". (winds going from SW to N-NW). Since ya'll don't have WARM FRONTS, I guess ya'll don't have OCCLUDED fronts either? What would be the wettest town(avg. annual rainfall) that you know of there? In Summer, here, due to daytime heating/instability, we have a 20% chance of rain on most days. Sometimes I wonder how people w/o aircon or fans sleep at night., on some nights around 10P.M., I've seen it still 80F(26.6C) with humidity values of 80%+. Mena, as most of the Southern US in Summer is dominated by the 3H's(Heat, Haze,Humidty).
        Enjoy the week  David Powell
Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 21:51:26 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: HIGH/LOW PT. 2 X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On day in 1982 I was camping out in the desert near Kununurra, WA and did not record the temperature overnight but it was teeth-chattering by 4 or 5 am - starry sky with not a sign of a cloud. As we drove through Hall's Creek and Fitzroy Crossing the temp according to radio reports was 48C in the shade somewhere near us, but the thermometer in the cabin of our non-air-con Mitsubishi Colt sat on around 60C for most of the afternoon and we both drank about ten litres of water. My guess is it got down to 10C or 15C or maybe even less overnight, so that was a fair range. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 19:36:14 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: HIGH/LOW PT. 2 > At 03:45 AM 27/05/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > >Hello Again Clyve(&All); > > (Getting forgetful in my old age) I forgot to ask ya'll what > was > > the biggest difference between high/low temps. in a day NOT due to > > frontal activity? In Mena, on an Easter Sunday, abt. 25 yrs. ago, we > had > > a (possibly a record high) high of 88F(31.1C) after a morning low of > > 35F(1.6C). This was due to a very dry airmass and rapid heating. > Mena's > > avg. daily temp. span is a little over 20 degrees. In towns in the > high > > altitude/dry humidity areas of the West, extreme temp. diff. is > pretty > > common. Ex. Ely, Nevada: July avg. high=87F(30.5C) avg. > low=48F(8.8C), > > avg. July P.M. humidity=22%, their altitude=6,262FT(1,909m). > > I recall a few days with minimums around 10-15C after radiational > cooling, > followed by maximums in the high 30's after northerly winds sprung up > in > the morning. > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 22:02:36 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I reckon it's got no hope at all of strengthening. It's more of a question of how long it'll take it to dissipate. Regarding warnings or lack thereof, BoM Qld are re-issuing Port Moresby's warnings (described as Fiji!) but not bothering with any of their own stuff. Fiji have had no mention on their site. JTWC are issuing regular warnings. And all the places that re-process either of the above are doing so. I have the usual links up at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm but I haven't bothered adding BoM Qld. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 19:30:24 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! > Hi Shane, > > It looks as through TC Upia is edging towards an area of stronger shear > over the Coral Sea while heading SE into cooler waters - rapid > weakening is my guess. > > What do the 'tropical cyclone' watchers think? Is this a likely > scenario? > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Shane Williams > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 7:12 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! > > > Hi All, > Looking around various websites for this T.C's information > tells me no one knows or takes much notice of whats happening with the > Cyclone's direction and future path. > > Reason being BOM said SSE NRL said Southerly and another website > said SE !! > > Im all confused :-( > > Currently slow moving. > > Shane. > > > PART 2 SITUATION > At 27/0600UTC.. > Tropical Cyclone "Upia" located near 9.0S 153.9E with central > pressure 995 hPa. > Recent and expected movement slow moving. Trough extends from 5S142E > to cyclone > to 12S170E. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Barnett > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! > > > Perhaps the name was given by Fiji? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Simon Clarke > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! > > > Shane & Keith > > Can't see Upia developing much more given the strong upper winds > to the near south that will either sheer the system or take it rapidly > toward the SSE. > > Nevertheless the late season TC is rather noteworthy. > > I wonder whether PNG uses its names as QLD TC's move into its > waters (like those TC's in the Indian Ocean). That may then acccount > for the list name discrepancy. > > > > > Regards > Simon > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Shane Williams > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:06 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! > > > Hi Simon. > T.C Upia moving SSE at 4 knots. At this time of > the year though I wonder if conditions are still favourable for good > cyclone development over the Coral Sea basin. Might be a fizzer > already at 1000hpa. :-(. > > Well wait and see. > > > Shane > > Gold Coast QLD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Simon Clarke > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:57 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Upia ? and I was expecting Epi ! > > > Yep, > > A late May TC in the Soloman group. Not the name I was > expecting (have I missed one somewhere ?) > > I think we have all been watching this but being rather > guarded on any predictions. > > How many TC's globally is that for May ? (traditionally the > world's quietest month). > > > > Regards > Simon > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.112.49] From: "Ben Jerrems" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: new snaps... Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 00:54:01 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2002 14:54:01.0878 (UTC) FILETIME=[56C10360:01C2058E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
thanks mate i forgot, well here tis....
 
 
Bye!
 
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From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: HIGH/LOW PT. 2 Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 00:44:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2002 14:45:01.0044 (UTC) FILETIME=[14644B40:01C2058D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com im not to sure about the max, but in Jan this year the temp got down to 5.9C (4th) and being Mid summer and with bushfies raging across the state, the max temp must have been high 20's/low 30's. i also recall times seeing 25C differences between Min and Max, but cant recall dates (Probably Mid March) Cheers --------------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------- This Email is virus free. Certified with Norton Antivirus 2002. Virus definition file 22-05-2002. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 7:36 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: HIGH/LOW PT. 2 > At 03:45 AM 27/05/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > >Hello Again Clyve(&All); > > (Getting forgetful in my old age) I forgot to ask ya'll what was > > the biggest difference between high/low temps. in a day NOT due to > > frontal activity? In Mena, on an Easter Sunday, abt. 25 yrs. ago, we had > > a (possibly a record high) high of 88F(31.1C) after a morning low of > > 35F(1.6C). This was due to a very dry airmass and rapid heating. Mena's > > avg. daily temp. span is a little over 20 degrees. In towns in the high > > altitude/dry humidity areas of the West, extreme temp. diff. is pretty > > common. Ex. Ely, Nevada: July avg. high=87F(30.5C) avg. low=48F(8.8C), > > avg. July P.M. humidity=22%, their altitude=6,262FT(1,909m). > > I recall a few days with minimums around 10-15C after radiational cooling, > followed by maximums in the high 30's after northerly winds sprung up in > the morning. > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: WIND WARNINGS Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 10:39:10 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
'Morning Everybody:
         Occasionally, here, near a front(or even in fair weather) the winds will be gustier than usual; and there will be a High Wind Warning for area lakes. Does Australia have something like this? (I suppose the lack of maritime influence causes our temps. to have greater range). I suppose our topography(in a valley amid rapidly rising mountains) accounts for our relatively light wind pattern. Even in t'storms(or gusty winds from fronts, or fair weatherwinds) the winds here seldom gust more than 35mph(58.3kph). The ribbon-like mountains are narrow but steep, in some square miles, there is 1000FT(330m)elev. variation. Do ya'll think that mountains protect against tornadoes, or is that a myth?
          Until next time   David Powell
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: WX QUES Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 13:32:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Good Day:
         I was wondering, with your proximity to the ocean, ya'll must get "wet"(high water content) snow. Do ya'll ever get "dry"(low water content)snow? The only time I remember getting "dry" snow here was in the winter of 1989. 9IN(228.6mm) of powder came down on us. Due to gusty NW winds, the stuff piled up into 3FT(almost 1m) drifts in the backyard. It wasn't much fun, because all you could do with it was to make snow icecream. What would be the wettest towns(annual avg. rainfall) in your States? What was the most widespread snowstorm there? How close does the snow get to sealevel?
         From a humid Mena  David Powell
From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bad weather Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 07:23:14 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Quite a bit of thunder around Auckland this morning. I notice the Auckland international airport has reported thunder every hour since about 10pm last night. From a rumbling Auckland Steven W ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gaul" To: Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 10:49 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bad weather > At 22:06 27/05/02 +1200, you wrote: > > coldies develop in the Tasman and drift on in. I expect there will be > >some good hail in these storms as the air in turning very cold. The > >weather for southern NZ gets worse with forecast wind gusts to 110k/hr. I > >have heard an AA report of snow drifts upto 1m deep on hill country roads > >west of Dunedin. Another front is due in Otago in the morning with snow > >periods likely to sea level. Cheers from a wintry NZ Steven W > > Nothing happening in Christchurch > > Maybe tomorrow may tell > > > JohnGaul > NZ Thunderstorm Society > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Drizzly humour Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 06:55:50 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well done :-)) Oh, and a severe blue sky warning for here as well. > >SEVERE DRIZZLE WARNING CANCELLATION > >Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane > >For the Southeast Coast District > > > ROFLMAO!!! :-) > > Should we issue a severe fog warning for Melbourne too? ;-) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: WX WARNINGS Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 18:26:21 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey, All:
          This year, here, (and in years past) they could've issued a Severe Pollen Warning. The heavy pollen here turns just about everything a light green shade. I vote that we get a Severe Humidity Warning throughout this Summer...lol...
:) Until later  David Powell
From: "Damian" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 09:51:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Don't you think you send a bit too many of your local weather info'?
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: aus-wx: WIND WARNINGS

'Morning Everybody:
         Occasionally, here, near a front(or even in fair weather) the winds will be gustier than usual; and there will be a High Wind Warning for area lakes. Does Australia have something like this? (I suppose the lack of maritime influence causes our temps. to have greater range). I suppose our topography(in a valley amid rapidly rising mountains) accounts for our relatively light wind pattern. Even in t'storms(or gusty winds from fronts, or fair weatherwinds) the winds here seldom gust more than 35mph(58.3kph). The ribbon-like mountains are narrow but steep, in some square miles, there is 1000FT(330m)elev. variation. Do ya'll think that mountains protect against tornadoes, or is that a myth?
          Until next time   David Powell
From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Cold Sydney Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:03:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I was in Katoomba over the weekend helping a friend move house & it was freezing & rained quiet heavy the entire time!
Last night was a cold one at my place here between Chatswood West & north Ryde on the Lane Cove River. The temperature was 11.9 at 5:30pm last night, 10.5 at 6:30pm & 7.9 at 10pm. But then clouds must have rolled in as the temperature only fell to 7.3 here last night.
The night before it got down to 5.4 degrees.
It's a cool 14.0 at the moment here at 10am!
 
 
Damian
From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: HIGH/LOW PT. 2 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:35:32 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C20530.E793FE00 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hello Again Clyve(&All); > (Getting forgetful in my old age) I forgot to ask ya'll what was = > the biggest difference between high/low temps. in a day NOT due to = > frontal activity? In Mena, on an Easter Sunday, abt. 25 yrs. ago, we had = > a (possibly a record high) high of 88F(31.1C) after a morning low of = > 35F(1.6C). This was due to a very dry airmass and rapid heating. Mena's = > avg. daily temp. span is a little over 20 degrees. In towns in the high = > altitude/dry humidity areas of the West, extreme temp. diff. is pretty = > common. Ex. Ely, Nevada: July avg. high=3D87F(30.5C) avg. = > low=3D48F(8.8C), avg. July P.M. humidity=3D22%, their = > altitude=3D6,262FT(1,909m). The Australian record diurnal temperature range is 35.0 C, set on two occasions - both of them on the Eyre Peninsula of South Australia. Ceduna had a 39.6/4.6 in October, and Kyancutta 43.3/8.3 in December. This region is prone to sudden temperature jumps if a northerly wind develops. In inland regions diurnal ranges exceeding 20 C are reasonably common, but anything beyond 25 is getting into the realms of the unusual. Dave's right about the western uplands of the US in summer (which probably have the world's largest mean diurnal ranges on an annual mean basis, although some sub-arctic climates have very large diurnal ranges in spring - Verhojansk, whose true diurnal range in mid-winter is virtually zero (such variations as exist are due to air-mass changes), has a mean diurnal range near 25 C around the period of the spring equinox). I visited a place called Bodie, at 2500 metres near the California/Nevada border, which has a mean July max of 26 and min of 1. It has only about 20 frost-free nights per year on average and has recorded -13 in July. (On the other hand, its mean winter minima aren't as low as one might expect - about -15). I've seen a day where one Nevada site recorded a min of -11 and a max of 31. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 09:12:10 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: WX QUES X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dave, you need to remember that the continent of Australia is roughly the same size as the 48 contiguous states of the USA so it's a pretty big place that isn't all near the sea. Our population density is all crowded around the seaboard, but our snowfields are further inland than our big cities which means that they have no problem getting plenty of "dry" snow. On the rare occasions when it gets cold enough to snow down to sea level right on the coast, it is true that the snow is rather wet. But the Victorian Alps and the Snowy Mountains of NSW are far enough inland and high enough to support excellent skiing conditions which attract skiing enthusiasts from all over the world. I once crossed the Alps by motorbike and sidecar during winter many years ago driving on top of the snow about two metres above the surface of the highway (which was officially closed) judging from the marks on the snow poles along the edge of the road. The CRB snow plough had been broken down for a number of weeks at that time. The only people I saw for many, many miles were somewhat-surprised skiers. As for your query about the wettest towns in each state, I shall leave that to be answered by someone more knowledgeable than I. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "arky dave" To: Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 13:32:01 -0500 Subject: aus-wx: WX QUES > Good Day: > I was wondering, with your proximity to the ocean, ya'll must > get "wet"(high water content) snow. Do ya'll ever get "dry"(low water > content)snow? The only time I remember getting "dry" snow here was in > the winter of 1989. 9IN(228.6mm) of powder came down on us. Due to > gusty NW winds, the stuff piled up into 3FT(almost 1m) drifts in the > backyard. It wasn't much fun, because all you could do with it was to > make snow icecream. What would be the wettest towns(annual avg. > rainfall) in your States? What was the most widespread snowstorm there? > How close does the snow get to sealevel? > From a humid Mena David Powell > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: TEMP DIFF Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 20:53:10 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello fron rainy Mena:
        It is not uncommon for California to have BOTH the Highest and Lowest 48-state temperature on the same day. Ex. for June 25, 1995: 48-state High: 115F(46.1C) at Palm Springs, Ca., 48-state Low: 33F(0.5C) at Bridgeport, Ca. There are quite a few other instances of this. In Summer, Death Valley, Ca., predominates the 48-state High readings. Many times Truckee, Ca. has the contiguous Low. Re: Blair Trewin: The town of Bodie(that you mentioned) has had the contiguous Low a few times. Re: Phil Smith: I just figured that the maritime influence and mildness would give Australia a majority of "wet" snow. Ark. doesn't make the 48-state High/Low honors. The few instances is a heatwave. The last time was August 31,2000, when the 48-state High was 112F(44.4C) at El Dorado, Ark.
        Take it easy     David Powell
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: Hello Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 21:42:35 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello:
      Re: Damian:
       I AM SORRY! I was just trying to learn about Aus. weather,  and giving ya'll some idea of our weather.
        So long    David Powell
From: David.Carroll at countryenergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: storms - bathurst - mudgee area To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:33:44 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 28/05/2002 01:33:47 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI all. Road reports.. heavy rain outside Bathurst , truck accident on sofala road. police report dangerous conditions. Radar advises rain heading SE towards Lithgow, Bathurst area. Some very dark clouds hanging over Bathurst area now. . which would be heading more to Oberon area. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Stormy Sydney Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:39:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Around 8mm has just fallen in a thundery rainfall at my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River. The temperature has fallen to 11.9 degrees
From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: VERY Stormy Sydney Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:57:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Heavy rain, bright lighning & loud thunder still occuring at my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde. Almost 11mm has fallen in the last hour or so.
From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Arky Dave Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:20:16 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Damian.
 
What's wrong with finding out about local weather from around the planet?? I notice a few of your posts are about local weather there. Maybe the same could be said for you.
 
David...keep posting. Damian...if you don't want to read David's emails, then no one is forcing you to, and there is a such thing as pressing "Delete"...use it.
 
PaulY
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Damian
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 09:51
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave

Don't you think you send a bit too many of your local weather info'?
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: aus-wx: WIND WARNINGS

'Morning Everybody:
         Occasionally, here, near a front(or even in fair weather) the winds will be gustier than usual; and there will be a High Wind Warning for area lakes. Does Australia have something like this? (I suppose the lack of maritime influence causes our temps. to have greater range). I suppose our topography(in a valley amid rapidly rising mountains) accounts for our relatively light wind pattern. Even in t'storms(or gusty winds from fronts, or fair weatherwinds) the winds here seldom gust more than 35mph(58.3kph). The ribbon-like mountains are narrow but steep, in some square miles, there is 1000FT(330m)elev. variation. Do ya'll think that mountains protect against tornadoes, or is that a myth?
          Until next time   David Powell
From: "Damian" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:39:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
If I wanted to read so much information about somewhere in the USA I would subscribe to a USA weather mailing list. But I have subscribed to an Australian Weather list. Why don't 'you' subscribe to a USA mailing list.
I have received more mailings from Arky Dave than anyone else & it takes me a bloody long time to go through & delete them all to try & find local stuff.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Yole
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Arky Dave

Damian.
 
What's wrong with finding out about local weather from around the planet?? I notice a few of your posts are about local weather there. Maybe the same could be said for you.
 
David...keep posting. Damian...if you don't want to read David's emails, then no one is forcing you to, and there is a such thing as pressing "Delete"...use it.
 
PaulY
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Damian
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 09:51
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave

Don't you think you send a bit too many of your local weather info'?
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: aus-wx: WIND WARNINGS

'Morning Everybody:
         Occasionally, here, near a front(or even in fair weather) the winds will be gustier than usual; and there will be a High Wind Warning for area lakes. Does Australia have something like this? (I suppose the lack of maritime influence causes our temps. to have greater range). I suppose our topography(in a valley amid rapidly rising mountains) accounts for our relatively light wind pattern. Even in t'storms(or gusty winds from fronts, or fair weatherwinds) the winds here seldom gust more than 35mph(58.3kph). The ribbon-like mountains are narrow but steep, in some square miles, there is 1000FT(330m)elev. variation. Do ya'll think that mountains protect against tornadoes, or is that a myth?
          Until next time   David Powell
From: David.Carroll at countryenergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: snow To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:07:17 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 28/05/2002 03:07:17 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This email arrived a moment ago. from people driving to Lithgow. Just hear from the girls whom just drove from Bathurst, there is snow in the padlocks and on the side of the road at mt lambie, as well hail near lithgow - just perfect driving weather. ---- 28/05/02 15:05 ---- Sent to --------------------------- -> David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: HE'S RIGHT Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 00:28:34 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi:
      Well, he's actually right. I DON'T want to hog all the posts or turn this into a Mena/Arkansas/US climate log. So, if you want to know anything about my neck of the woods, I'll try to answer as best I can.(I'm DEEPLY sorry for the exhorbitant amt. of posts, I guess I got carried away; excited to interact w/fellow weather buffs in the country that I'm fascinated with). I MUST remember that this is a post for AUSTRALIAN weather.
       Again, MANY THANKS for your courteous answers, help, info. and for putting up with me!
        Sorry for clogging up the system and inconveniencing anyome.
       Until Later     David Powell
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hello Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:59:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2002 07:01:11.0754 (UTC) FILETIME=[734162A0:01C20615] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Arky D.
I find your description of US weather very interesting, weather is global! and I look forward too more of your colourful descriptions of the atmospheric process in your part of the world regards Clyve Herbert.
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:42 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Hello

Hello:
      Re: Damian:
       I AM SORRY! I was just trying to learn about Aus. weather,  and giving ya'll some idea of our weather.
        So long    David Powell
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Upia and the southern Hemisphere. Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 17:04:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2002 07:06:24.0433 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DA06A10:01C20616] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all tropos.
With development of weak TC Upia you all may have noticed the decline in the remnant and very late persistence of a southern branch of the ITCZ extending from near New Guinea to east of Fiji, there has been a strengthening of the northern hemisphere ITCZ arm (between south of China and the central pacific (10 north)). over the past 24 hours. regards Clyve H
From: alex coates To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [203.166.46.74] Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:23:09 +0930 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: aus-wx: Cold Nights in SA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, Lately the weather is SA has been fairly cool and cloudy, boring really. But we have had some cold nights, 2.6 sat morn, 3.6 sun, 5.7 mon and 2.4 today at my station, -2 At Naracoorte AP in the SE the past two mornings, -2 this morning at Hahndorf in the hills. And the reminder of the week looks to continue with cold nights and mostly fine weather. Got down below 5c in Adelaide this morning. Was only 9c by 9am, 7.7c at my station. Alex Coates Paralowie __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 05:30:19 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Weather and Wintry Hail Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Variable storm falls in parts of Sydney this afternoon. At Frenchs Forest, 41.2 mm fell between 1 and 2.30 pm - including an estimated 25 mm in 20 minutes at peak. no hail but media reports of "snow" on the central coast seem typical in these type of conditions. Small hail is something or southern Victorian friends would be quite familiar with in Winter - so would our southern island New Zealand guys.... but coastal NSW it is not as common, so we get the "snow "reports - on a par with mini tornadoes I hasitate to say. Cheers, Don White +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 17:47:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Damian,
 
I don't want you to take this except in the spirit of friendship in which it is meant to be said, but I do think the only person you are harming, by singling out weather commetaries from the US just because they are from the US, is yourself. There's no difference between the weather there and anywhere else on earth (except in severity of storms perhaps!). Unlike human beings, meteorology doesn't respond to perceived political correctnesses, or the lack of them. I don't think anyone else takes offence at news from other parts of the world, and this is not the forum for commenting, directly or by implication, on the perceived shortcomings of other countries.
There are other places where you can do that if you feel strongly about things. The main thing is that we can all learn something about the weather and add mutually to one another's understanding of it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave

If I wanted to read so much information about somewhere in the USA I would subscribe to a USA weather mailing list. But I have subscribed to an Australian Weather list. Why don't 'you' subscribe to a USA mailing list.
I have received more mailings from Arky Dave than anyone else & it takes me a bloody long time to go through & delete them all to try & find local stuff.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Yole
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Arky Dave

Damian.
 
What's wrong with finding out about local weather from around the planet?? I notice a few of your posts are about local weather there. Maybe the same could be said for you.
 
David...keep posting. Damian...if you don't want to read David's emails, then no one is forcing you to, and there is a such thing as pressing "Delete"...use it.
 
PaulY
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Damian
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 09:51
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave

Don't you think you send a bit too many of your local weather info'?
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: aus-wx: WIND WARNINGS

'Morning Everybody:
         Occasionally, here, near a front(or even in fair weather) the winds will be gustier than usual; and there will be a High Wind Warning for area lakes. Does Australia have something like this? (I suppose the lack of maritime influence causes our temps. to have greater range). I suppose our topography(in a valley amid rapidly rising mountains) accounts for our relatively light wind pattern. Even in t'storms(or gusty winds from fronts, or fair weatherwinds) the winds here seldom gust more than 35mph(58.3kph). The ribbon-like mountains are narrow but steep, in some square miles, there is 1000FT(330m)elev. variation. Do ya'll think that mountains protect against tornadoes, or is that a myth?
          Until next time   David Powell
From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Drizzly humour Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 17:57:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I think at the moment parts of western Sydney might benefit from a Severe Fractocumulus Advice.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 9:44 PM Subject: aus-wx: Drizzly humour > Evening all, > > There's a bit of SDS developing - Anthony Cornelius has donated this bit > of humour...........and I felt that it had to be shared!!! > > SEVERE DRIZZLE WARNING CANCELLATION > Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane > For the Southeast Coast District > > The band of severe drizzle that was situated to the west of Brisbane has > drifted towards the south and subsequently weakened. Drizzle rates of > more than 0.2mm/hr are now unlikely so the severe drizzle warning has > been cancelled. > > No more warnings will be issued unless severe drizzle redevelops. > > **** NOT FOR BROADCAST AFTER 11pm **** > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 18:29:50 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Just making a point here and no offence to anyone at all. Damian or Arky Dave. Damian, is the following annoying to someone who isn't where you are?
Around 8mm has just fallen in a thundery rainfall at my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River. The temperature has fallen to 11.9 degrees
 
I'm not familiar with Sydney but I know these "towns" are near. Should I be offended because they don't apply to my "area"?
 
Sorry but that's my opinion.
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave

If I wanted to read so much information about somewhere in the USA I would subscribe to a USA weather mailing list. But I have subscribed to an Australian Weather list. Why don't 'you' subscribe to a USA mailing list.
I have received more mailings from Arky Dave than anyone else & it takes me a bloody long time to go through & delete them all to try & find local stuff.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Yole
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Arky Dave

Damian.
 
What's wrong with finding out about local weather from around the planet?? I notice a few of your posts are about local weather there. Maybe the same could be said for you.
 
David...keep posting. Damian...if you don't want to read David's emails, then no one is forcing you to, and there is a such thing as pressing "Delete"...use it.
 
PaulY
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Damian
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 09:51
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave

Don't you think you send a bit too many of your local weather info'?
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: aus-wx: WIND WARNINGS

'Morning Everybody:
         Occasionally, here, near a front(or even in fair weather) the winds will be gustier than usual; and there will be a High Wind Warning for area lakes. Does Australia have something like this? (I suppose the lack of maritime influence causes our temps. to have greater range). I suppose our topography(in a valley amid rapidly rising mountains) accounts for our relatively light wind pattern. Even in t'storms(or gusty winds from fronts, or fair weatherwinds) the winds here seldom gust more than 35mph(58.3kph). The ribbon-like mountains are narrow but steep, in some square miles, there is 1000FT(330m)elev. variation. Do ya'll think that mountains protect against tornadoes, or is that a myth?
          Until next time   David Powell
From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Cold Nights in Sydney Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 18:38:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm recording 8.7 degrees at my place at the moment (6:35pm) between Chatswood West & North Ryde on the Lane Cove River. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Drizzly humour Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 18:12:30 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com why is a severe drizzle warning so funny, severe heavy drizzle can cause quite dangerous conditions on our roads. RM ----- Original Message ----- From: Bussy To: Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:25 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Drizzly humour > Well done :-)) Oh, and a severe blue sky warning for here as well. > > > >SEVERE DRIZZLE WARNING CANCELLATION > > >Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane > > >For the Southeast Coast District > > > > > > ROFLMAO!!! :-) > > > > Should we issue a severe fog warning for Melbourne too? ;-) > > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Images of the Aurora Australis Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 18:34:04 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Southern Lights Over U.S. Polar Station

SOUTH POLE, May 27, 2002 (ENS) - Images of the Aurora Australis, the atmospheric phenomenon known as the Southern Lights, are lighting up the long polar night.
 
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From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: WX WARNINGS Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 18:17:50 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
we have pollen warnings in aus. for the benifit of asthmatics and other people with resriratory disorders along with pollution warnings, do you actually have official  pollen warnings over there.
 
regards RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:56 AM
Subject: aus-wx: WX WARNINGS

Hey, All:
          This year, here, (and in years past) they could've issued a Severe Pollen Warning. The heavy pollen here turns just about everything a light green shade. I vote that we get a Severe Humidity Warning throughout this Summer...lol...
:) Until later  David Powell
From: "Carolyn" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Arky Dave Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 18:51:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Please, isn't this list for the exchange of information about weather?  Yes it is based in Australia, but has members from all over.  I thought that it was for the mutual benefit of all to understand different types of weather patterns, and David was doing just that, and also providing information about his local weather as well, a mutual exchange.
 
I know very little, but recognise someone who wants to know about our very different climatic conditons.  It is worth the interest, an as with most things, you don't have to read it, just send it to the deleted items bin.......
 
also my 2 bobs worth
 
Carolyn
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Arky Dave Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 18:20:34 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
arky doesn't but it sounds like you do damian.
 keep 'em comin' arky.
 
RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave

Don't you think you send a bit too many of your local weather info'?
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: aus-wx: WIND WARNINGS

'Morning Everybody:
         Occasionally, here, near a front(or even in fair weather) the winds will be gustier than usual; and there will be a High Wind Warning for area lakes. Does Australia have something like this? (I suppose the lack of maritime influence causes our temps. to have greater range). I suppose our topography(in a valley amid rapidly rising mountains) accounts for our relatively light wind pattern. Even in t'storms(or gusty winds from fronts, or fair weatherwinds) the winds here seldom gust more than 35mph(58.3kph). The ribbon-like mountains are narrow but steep, in some square miles, there is 1000FT(330m)elev. variation. Do ya'll think that mountains protect against tornadoes, or is that a myth?
          Until next time   David Powell
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:00:08 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Drizzly humour Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:55 AM 28/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Well done :-)) Oh, and a severe blue sky warning for here as well. Hrmm, UV index getting up? ;-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 18:59:26 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: WIND WARNINGS Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 10:39 AM 27/05/2002 -0500, you wrote: >'Morning Everybody: > Occasionally, here, near a front(or even in fair weather) the > winds will be gustier than usual; and there will be a High Wind Warning > for area lakes. Does Australia have something like this? (I suppose the > lack of maritime influence causes our temps. to have greater range). I suppose Strong Wind Warnings, Gale warnings, and many other wind warnings. The current warnings are always publicised on the Bureau of Meterology web site http://www.bom.gov.au. Some days, there's all sorts of warnings... :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:03:43 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List Subject: aus-wx: More (Bad!) SDS Humour Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I couldn't resist writing this... Water From the Sky Emergency services were stretched to the limit in Toowoomba and many parts of Southeast Queensland as an unusual phenomenon not normally witnessed occurred. Eyewitnesses report a strange watery substance to be falling from the sky this afternoon. "I was sitting inside and I looked outside and there was this water stuff falling out the sky! I thought I was dreaming," was the account of one eyewitness. The watery substance, later identified by the Bureau of Meteorology as "rain" caused havoc on the roads. A spokesperson from RACQ reported, "Motorists were caught unaware, many were driving around dazed and had no idea how to remove the water from their windscreen. Visibility was reduced by several meters, that combined with motorists searching in their glove compartment for a manual on how to operate their windscreen wipers caused many accidents right across the region." Another eyewitness commented, "I had often seen these two sticks on my windscreen - the salesperson showed me how to operate them, but I didn't know what they were for. I was considering asking to get them removed, or perhaps plant some vines or orchids on them as a decoration." An expert on driving through this rare phenomenon, rain mentioned "I knew it was getting bad when I had to turn the intermittent wipers onto normal. I was getting a little scared, especially when the back wiper had to go on too to clear the water spray left behind from other vehicles." The "rain" was relatively widespread through western Southeastern Queensland. The police mentioned, "It's a good thing that rain stuff didn't penetrate much into Brisbane or we may have had a real catastrophe on our hands! We were concerned last night when a severe drizzle warning was issued, and then was relieved when that was over - but then to get rain over drizzle - well, that was too much." More "rain" is possible over the next couple of days, and police have urged extra caution to residents. AC +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: aus-wx: new radar Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 18:25:03 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
mount gambier is getting a new dual mode, weather watching\wind finding radar.
 you little bewty, no more dropouts.
 
RM
From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Nature at work Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:19:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Nature will be at work again today. Frosts and below zero temps as we are now getting here, heralds the movement of the Murray Cray(fish) and the disappearance of the Yabbie for the cold period. The Murray Cray goes into the breeding phase and the Yabbie hides in the mud until the warmer months.
The Murray Cray may be an out of bounds catch next year as there are not too many big ones being caught. Growth to full size can take ten years apparently.
Not sure where they are going to swim as the Murray can now be crossed on foot in several places.
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: More (Bad!) SDS Humour Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:45:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2002 09:46:51.0620 (UTC) FILETIME=[97E09240:01C2062C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Supercell. Just class, thats all I can say ............regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Cornelius To: Australian Weather Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:03 PM Subject: aus-wx: More (Bad!) SDS Humour > I couldn't resist writing this... > > Water From the Sky > > Emergency services were stretched to the limit in Toowoomba and many > parts of Southeast Queensland as an unusual phenomenon not normally > witnessed occurred. Eyewitnesses report a strange watery substance to > be falling from the sky this afternoon. "I was sitting inside and I > looked outside and there was this water stuff falling out the sky! I > thought I was dreaming," was the account of one eyewitness. The watery > substance, later identified by the Bureau of Meteorology as "rain" > caused havoc on the roads. A spokesperson from RACQ reported, > "Motorists were caught unaware, many were driving around dazed and had > no idea how to remove the water from their windscreen. Visibility was > reduced by several meters, that combined with motorists searching in > their glove compartment for a manual on how to operate their windscreen > wipers caused many accidents right across the region." Another > eyewitness commented, "I had often seen these two sticks on my > windscreen - the salesperson showed me how to operate them, but I didn't > know what they were for. I was considering asking to get them removed, > or perhaps plant some vines or orchids on them as a decoration." An > expert on driving through this rare phenomenon, rain mentioned "I knew > it was getting bad when I had to turn the intermittent wipers onto > normal. I was getting a little scared, especially when the back wiper > had to go on too to clear the water spray left behind from other > vehicles." The "rain" was relatively widespread through western > Southeastern Queensland. The police mentioned, "It's a good thing that > rain stuff didn't penetrate much into Brisbane or we may have had a real > catastrophe on our hands! We were concerned last night when a severe > drizzle warning was issued, and then was relieved when that was over - > but then to get rain over drizzle - well, that was too much." More > "rain" is possible over the next couple of days, and police have urged > extra caution to residents. > > AC > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: TEMP PROB Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:27:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Where is KENA? Is it in urban built up area and a long way from where you live? Is your sensor in the open and their's isn't??
Buildings etc hold heat and can give wrong readings. If the sensor is in full sun for example, then it will give a much warmer reading than the actual air temp.
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 11:19 AM
Subject: aus-wx: TEMP PROB

Greetings: Re. John Woodbridge or anyone else:
         In an earlier message, I mentioned that I have a battery-powered indoor/outdoor digital thermometer. The device works fine most of the time, but occasionally a "glitch"(false reading) takes place. An example would be just today(May 24), the morning low (as reported by KENA) was 58F(14.4C), when I hit the button on the device, it indicated a morning low of 38.2F(3.4C). These occurrences are exasperating! I was wondering what would cause this? Would this be a defect with the device. There have been NO "glitches" on  High temp. readings. Since Feb. 20, 2001, this device has "glitched" on the low temp. 35 times. I change the batteries regularly. Is there anything I can do. (The "glitch" lows are usually between 36F and 38F).
 THANKS     David Powell
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Cold Nights in SA Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:34:28 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com even the brass monkeys have packed up and left, boring, definatly not. RM naracoorte ----- Original Message ----- From: alex coates To: Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 4:23 PM Subject: aus-wx: Cold Nights in SA > Hi All, Lately the weather is SA has been fairly cool and cloudy, > boring really. But we have had some cold nights, 2.6 sat morn, 3.6 > sun, 5.7 mon and 2.4 today at my station, -2 At Naracoorte AP in the > SE the past two mornings, -2 this morning at Hahndorf in the hills. > And the reminder of the week looks to continue with cold nights and > mostly fine weather. Got down below 5c in Adelaide this morning. Was > only 9c by 9am, 7.7c at my station. > > Alex Coates > Paralowie > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fog Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 20:09:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
How do we "forecast" a fog occurring?
Frost is relatively straight forward but what about fog?
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "Adam Mayo" To: "Australian Severe Weather" Subject: aus-wx:Sydney Weather and Wintry Hail and Small Melbourne Storm [?] Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 20:50:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Everyone,
 
Adam and I had the good fortune to take off from Melbourne Airport into a smallish storm cell at about 1pm today.  Jane if it was anything of interest have you got the radar from it still?  The cloud cleared away and we were able to see both the Victorian and NSW Snow fields, NSW having the best snow cover, in fact it looked rather spectacular.
 
Then the most interesting part was landing in Sydney at 2.20pm in the Sydney storm.  Don we did see minute hail, somewhere near the Parramatta River could have been near to Gladesville or in that area, and then were treated to the sight of a Storm affected Sydney.  This was a first for us two, we haven't flown much and thought ourselves lucky to find a Sydney Storm to fly through.
 
Here at Mona Vale we got 9.5mm of rain from the storm.
 
Judy Mayo.
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: HE'S RIGHT Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 20:14:27 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
arky, your apologies are unwarranted and uncalled for, just keep posting.
 
RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:58 PM
Subject: aus-wx: HE'S RIGHT

Hi:
      Well, he's actually right. I DON'T want to hog all the posts or turn this into a Mena/Arkansas/US climate log. So, if you want to know anything about my neck of the woods, I'll try to answer as best I can.(I'm DEEPLY sorry for the exhorbitant amt. of posts, I guess I got carried away; excited to interact w/fellow weather buffs in the country that I'm fascinated with). I MUST remember that this is a post for AUSTRALIAN weather.
       Again, MANY THANKS for your courteous answers, help, info. and for putting up with me!
        Sorry for clogging up the system and inconveniencing anyome.
       Until Later     David Powell
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney Weather and Wintry Hail Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 21:05:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Don, I have been arguing that one for years with various people. I have yet to be convinced that it has snowed at sea level in Wollongong, at least in the last 30 years, yet almost everybody I talk will say that it has, but " I saw it " they will saw. > guys.... but coastal NSW it is not as common, so we get the "snow > "reports - on a par with mini tornadoes I hasitate to say. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hello Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 20:43:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Evening all,
 
I agree with the sentiments expressed by others on the aussie-wx list.  I also am enjoying (and learning from) the discussion that is being generated by Arky Dave's posts.  So, I suspect are the other ***268*** subscribers to the list. The delete key is there if a particular topic doesn't interest you.  The rest of us are enjoying ourselves!!!!!
 
'Keep on keeping on' to those who post on this list & help to make it such an interesting place since 1998!!!
 
Jane

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Hi Arky D.
I find your description of US weather very interesting, weather is global! and I look forward too more of your colourful descriptions of the atmospheric process in your part of the world regards Clyve Herbert.
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:42 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Hello

Hello:
      Re: Damian:
       I AM SORRY! I was just trying to learn about Aus. weather,  and giving ya'll some idea of our weather.
        So long    David Powell
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 20:58:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I hate to add to the debate as it only prolongs it, an I hate these petty things , but I have been on this list since day 1.
 
This is not the first time that somebody has come out of the woodwork and griizled about somebody's posts.  It is a pity as everyone has a right to express their opinions regarding weather on this board. Whinging about posts only drags the board down to the level of some of the USA boards that Damian refers to where his posts would not be tolerated for 5 seconds before being flamed to pieces.
 
So please if its on topic ( weather ) be understanding and tolerant of others rights.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Arky Dave

arky doesn't but it sounds like you do damian.
 keep 'em comin' arky.
 
RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave

Don't you think you send a bit too many of your local weather info'?
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: aus-wx: WIND WARNINGS

'Morning Everybody:
         Occasionally, here, near a front(or even in fair weather) the winds will be gustier than usual; and there will be a High Wind Warning for area lakes. Does Australia have something like this? (I suppose the lack of maritime influence causes our temps. to have greater range). I suppose our topography(in a valley amid rapidly rising mountains) accounts for our relatively light wind pattern. Even in t'storms(or gusty winds from fronts, or fair weatherwinds) the winds here seldom gust more than 35mph(58.3kph). The ribbon-like mountains are narrow but steep, in some square miles, there is 1000FT(330m)elev. variation. Do ya'll think that mountains protect against tornadoes, or is that a myth?
          Until next time   David Powell
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: More (Bad!) SDS Humour Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 21:12:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Those two sticks are used in conjunction with the wiper fluid to remove dust and bugs. Your salesman is lacking in knowledge. Did you ever find out what those gutter things on the house roof are for ? and has your street got those steep gutter things to keep cars on the road and not on your lawn. > > wipers caused many accidents right across the region." Another > > eyewitness commented, "I had often seen these two sticks on my > > windscreen - the salesperson showed me how to operate them, but I didn't > > know what they were for. I was considering asking to get them removed, > > or perhaps plant some vines or orchids on them as a decoration." An +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 22:56:56 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Drizzly humour Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 21:44 27/05/02 +1000, you wrote: >SEVERE DRIZZLE WARNING CANCELLATION >Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane >For the Southeast Coast District > >The band of severe drizzle that was situated to the west of Brisbane has >drifted towards the south and subsequently weakened. Drizzle rates of >more than 0.2mm/hr are now unlikely so the severe drizzle warning has >been cancelled. > >No more warnings will be issued unless severe drizzle redevelops. > > **** NOT FOR BROADCAST AFTER 11pm **** I thort "Drizzle Reports' were courtesy of the NZTS ? because quite often the severity of weather here, usually amounts to that sort of weather sometimes. I record in my weather diary, "Violent Drizzle" on lots of occasions, especially when other parts of the country are enjoying action weather Also the Threat of Fine days should have a warning, even Anticyclonic Gloom JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 22:55:37 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bad weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:23 28/05/02 +1200, you wrote: >Quite a bit of thunder around Auckland this morning. I notice the Auckland >international airport has reported >thunder every hour since about 10pm last night. >>From a rumbling Auckland >Steven W >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Gaul" >To: >Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 10:49 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bad weather > > >> At 22:06 27/05/02 +1200, you wrote: >> > coldies develop in the Tasman and drift on in. I expect there will be >> >some good hail in these storms as the air in turning very cold. The >> >weather for southern NZ gets worse with forecast wind gusts to 110k/hr. >I >> >have heard an AA report of snow drifts upto 1m deep on hill country roads >> >west of Dunedin. Another front is due in Otago in the morning with snow >> >periods likely to sea level. Cheers from a wintry NZ Steven W >> >> Nothing happening in Christchurch >> >> Maybe tomorrow may tell >> >> >> JohnGaul >> NZ Thunderstorm Society Still nothing again today Boring all the weather happening at both ends of the country JohnGaul NZTZ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: VERY Stormy Sydney Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 20:26:16 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Wish we were having a good thunderstorm here in Adelaide.. haven't heard a good rumble (bodily function not included) for a looooong time :(
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: aus-wx: VERY Stormy Sydney

Heavy rain, bright lighning & loud thunder still occuring at my place between Chatswood West & North Ryde. Almost 11mm has fallen in the last hour or so.
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 21:10:40 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hello Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:43 PM 28/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Evening all, > >I agree with the sentiments expressed by others on the aussie-wx list. I >also am enjoying (and learning from) the discussion that is being >generated by Arky Dave's posts. So, I suspect are the other ***268*** >subscribers to the list. The delete key is there if a particular topic >doesn't interest you. The rest of us are enjoying ourselves!!!!! Well, I've been posting on some of the subjects, so that says how I feel. :-) > 'Keep on keeping on' to those who post on this list & help to make it > such an interesting place since 1998!!! Onya Jane. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 21:13:00 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: More (Bad!) SDS Humour Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:12 PM 28/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: > Those two sticks are used in conjunction with the wiper fluid to remove >dust and bugs. Your salesman is lacking in knowledge. Did you ever find out >what those gutter things on the house roof are for ? and has your street >got those steep gutter things to keep cars on the road and not on your lawn. The gutter things on the house are to trap leaves so you can light a bonfire. There is a conspiracy theory that they're actually a plot against insurance companies to send them broke during the fire season... Fortunately, clearing out the gutters early in the season will foil any such plot... :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Road Reports - Bathurst Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 21:13:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
9.11pm 28/05
 
Just a quick update just heard..  ice/rain/ signs warning at Great Western Hwy..  NO road closures as yet.. Roads to patrolled all night as from VKG Police head office Tamworth. 
 
Dave
 
 
 
From: "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: aus-wx: My WM-918 had a hic-cup :( Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 20:54:17 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Got home this arvo to find my wx station (WM-918) had had a false reading from my temp/humidity sensor outside & was still giving a no reading. Checked the sensor out side (no, it hadn't fallen off the wall) and everything seemed Ok. So I reset the monitor and it now seems to be working fine (fingers X'ed) but I've now lost all my measurements for May :(
 
Bugger!
 
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 21:25:45 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: VERY Stormy Sydney Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:26 PM 28/05/2002 +0930, you wrote: >Wish we were having a good thunderstorm here in Adelaide.. haven't heard a >good rumble (bodily function not included) for a looooong time :( Melbourne has been mostly cool and dull, except those lucky souls on the coast or near the Dandenongs. :-/ The NW suburbs are dreary... :-/ I'll go back to my other toys and give the weather a miss. ;) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Arky Dave Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:10:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For your information, I AM subscribed to US mailing lists. But show me where there is a rule saying that the aus-wx list is purely for just AUSTRALIAN weather. Does this mean we should reject any reports from other countries like New Zealand, the UK or even China that we receive!!!! I haven't seen a single rule saying this. And saying that the list should only be Australian weather is discriminatory. I know numerous people that post Australian weather on other country mailing lists, and they have no problems with this type of crap!!! Just seems like only a certain few individuals on here that do, and that is sad considering the weather is a GLOBAL effect!!!!! Set up a damn block on your email or something and stop whining!!!! Paul -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Damian Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 14:40 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave If I wanted to read so much information about somewhere in the USA I would subscribe to a USA weather mailing list. But I have subscribed to an Australian Weather list. Why don't 'you' subscribe to a USA mailing list. I have received more mailings from Arky Dave than anyone else & it takes me a bloody long time to go through & delete them all to try & find local stuff. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: TEMP PROB PT 2 Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 07:45:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Bussy:
          KENA is about 1MI or less from the house, their temp. device is housed in the correct fashion. My sensor is not in direct sun. The discrepancies between my "glitch" readings and the official ones are at least by 20F, making me think there is some sort of malfunction.
           THANKS EVERYONE for their friendly e-mails.
            Re. DAMIAN: I apologize to you for any grief I may have caused you. I hope there aren't any hard feelings. I WAS NOT aware of any U.S. e-mail weather mailing lists.
             I would like feedback: WOULD ANY OF YA'LL BE INTERESTED IN ME POSTING MENA'S HIGH/LOW/RAIN TOTALS AT THE END OF EACH MONTH? I CAN DO IT OR NOT, WHATEVER YA'LL WANT.(Be honest).  I will drastically reduce the postings.(I'll be "virtual", I'll be here, but you may not see much of me). I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE OVER YOUR LIST!
            Wishing EVERYONE a happy June.
             Your Aus. wx fan    David Powell
From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Stunning weather images Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 22:48:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, There are some brilliant photographers out there!! The Victorian images page has been expanded to include 'friends' from other parts of Australia, as well as out Victorian member in the UK. Have added 2 more stunning shots - 1 from the back end of a storm in Sydney on the 16th May and another from Adelaide of a Cb casting a shadow across the sky. Thanks to Eric & Ricky for giving permission for their images to be included here... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/vicimages.htm Enjoy!! -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: POLLEN WARN. Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 07:55:44 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Re: Richard Modistach:
        Hello to you. No...lol...the pollen warnings here are non-existant. The last few years have been pretty heavy on pollen accumulation. Some of the larger US cities (Dallas, Houston, etc.) do have various stages of OZONE warnings(caused by car exhaust).(Ozone Action Days). Some towns in or near drought areas may have blowing dust advisories, or ground blizzard warnings(where loose accumulated snow is being whipped around by fierce winds). ...Modistach...an interesting last name...what nationality is it? My Mom's maiden name is Lasiter, is that a common name there? (Here, about the only real pollution is when the Forest Service does nearby controlled burns in the forests).
         Have a great week   David Powell
From: "Martin Davey" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Arky Dave Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 00:24:07 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I agree that it is quite interesting to find out about the situation in other areas of the world. It is amazing how much one area can affect another even when it is thousands of miles away. We see this with the El-Nino affect. Everywhere is interconnected in one way or another. Damian don't be so insular.  Also what happens in the backyard in Sydney may not be any more relevant than what happens in the USA weather wise for many areas of Australia but it is still interesting.
 
 
Martin
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Damian
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:10 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave

If I wanted to read so much information about somewhere in the USA I would subscribe to a USA weather mailing list. But I have subscribed to an Australian Weather list. Why don't 'you' subscribe to a USA mailing list.
I have received more mailings from Arky Dave than anyone else & it takes me a bloody long time to go through & delete them all to try & find local stuff.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Yole
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Arky Dave

Damian.
 
What's wrong with finding out about local weather from around the planet?? I notice a few of your posts are about local weather there. Maybe the same could be said for you.
 
David...keep posting. Damian...if you don't want to read David's emails, then no one is forcing you to, and there is a such thing as pressing "Delete"...use it.
 
PaulY
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Damian
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 09:51
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave

Don't you think you send a bit too many of your local weather info'?
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: aus-wx: WIND WARNINGS

'Morning Everybody:
         Occasionally, here, near a front(or even in fair weather) the winds will be gustier than usual; and there will be a High Wind Warning for area lakes. Does Australia have something like this? (I suppose the lack of maritime influence causes our temps. to have greater range). I suppose our topography(in a valley amid rapidly rising mountains) accounts for our relatively light wind pattern. Even in t'storms(or gusty winds from fronts, or fair weatherwinds) the winds here seldom gust more than 35mph(58.3kph). The ribbon-like mountains are narrow but steep, in some square miles, there is 1000FT(330m)elev. variation. Do ya'll think that mountains protect against tornadoes, or is that a myth?
          Until next time   David Powell
From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: aus-wx: ARKY DAVE, Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 01:23:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2002 15:25:00.0315 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4E1BEB0:01C2065B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
if you want to post/ask ANYTHING wx related, do so ANYTIME, 99.9% of ppl here will be enjoying them, i haven't seen this much activity on the list in quite awhile,
Also, if your such a wx fan, check this site out, www.weatherzone.com.au , it is Australia Best place to find real-time weather, and look for the link to the Forum, many people on this list also post in there. also check out www.bom.gov.au , thats the Australian Met service website, have a look around and you will find a marvell of info on Aussie-Wx..
 
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----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:45 PM
Subject: aus-wx: TEMP PROB PT 2

Hello Bussy:
          KENA is about 1MI or less from the house, their temp. device is housed in the correct fashion. My sensor is not in direct sun. The discrepancies between my "glitch" readings and the official ones are at least by 20F, making me think there is some sort of malfunction.
           THANKS EVERYONE for their friendly e-mails.
            Re. DAMIAN: I apologize to you for any grief I may have caused you. I hope there aren't any hard feelings. I WAS NOT aware of any U.S. e-mail weather mailing lists.
             I would like feedback: WOULD ANY OF YA'LL BE INTERESTED IN ME POSTING MENA'S HIGH/LOW/RAIN TOTALS AT THE END OF EACH MONTH? I CAN DO IT OR NOT, WHATEVER YA'LL WANT.(Be honest).  I will drastically reduce the postings.(I'll be "virtual", I'll be here, but you may not see much of me). I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE OVER YOUR LIST!
            Wishing EVERYONE a happy June.
             Your Aus. wx fan    David Powell
From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bad weather Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 06:34:06 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com More thunder this morning in Auckland (just a few flashes rumbles) with slight hail in the rain. Overnight Monday 3500 lightning strikes were recorded in the Auckland/Waikato region but I suspect that is not alot by Australian standards. Nice hail yesterday morning. Anyway the freezing levels over NZ have lifted overnight, Invercargill 900mbs(800m). Bye Steven Williams Auckland Weather Watcher ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gaul" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:55 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bad weather > At 07:23 28/05/02 +1200, you wrote: > >Quite a bit of thunder around Auckland this morning. I notice the Auckland > >international airport has reported > >thunder every hour since about 10pm last night. > >>From a rumbling Auckland > >Steven W > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "John Gaul" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 10:49 PM > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bad weather > > > > > >> At 22:06 27/05/02 +1200, you wrote: > >> > coldies develop in the Tasman and drift on in. I expect there will be > >> >some good hail in these storms as the air in turning very cold. The > >> >weather for southern NZ gets worse with forecast wind gusts to 110k/hr. > >I > >> >have heard an AA report of snow drifts upto 1m deep on hill country roads > >> >west of Dunedin. Another front is due in Otago in the morning with snow > >> >periods likely to sea level. Cheers from a wintry NZ Steven W > >> > >> Nothing happening in Christchurch > >> > >> Maybe tomorrow may tell > >> > >> > >> JohnGaul > >> NZ Thunderstorm Society > > > Still nothing again today > > Boring > > all the weather happening at both ends of the country > > JohnGaul > NZTZ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: More (Bad!) SDS Humour Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 05:07:38 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com those gutter things on your roof are to stop the leaves falling on your verandah. RM ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Thompson To: Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:42 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: More (Bad!) SDS Humour > Those two sticks are used in conjunction with the wiper fluid to remove > dust and bugs. Your salesman is lacking in knowledge. Did you ever find out > what those gutter things on the house roof are for ? and has your street > got those steep gutter things to keep cars on the road and not on your lawn. > > > > > wipers caused many accidents right across the region." Another > > > eyewitness commented, "I had often seen these two sticks on my > > > windscreen - the salesperson showed me how to operate them, but I didn't > > > know what they were for. I was considering asking to get them removed, > > > or perhaps plant some vines or orchids on them as a decoration." An > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: My WM-918 had a hic-cup :( Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 05:15:28 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
check your connections, all of them, CRC them, pull apart and put them together a few times, check for moisture corrosion, i had the same problem with mine, i dont know what a wm-918 is, mine's a davis.
 
RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:54 PM
Subject: aus-wx: My WM-918 had a hic-cup :(

Got home this arvo to find my wx station (WM-918) had had a false reading from my temp/humidity sensor outside & was still giving a no reading. Checked the sensor out side (no, it hadn't fallen off the wall) and everything seemed Ok. So I reset the monitor and it now seems to be working fine (fingers X'ed) but I've now lost all my measurements for May :(
 
Bugger!
 
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: POLLEN WARN. Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 06:21:43 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
thanks for your reply arky, can you please send me your email address to  hambone at dodo.com.au
 
regards RM
p.s. can someone enlighten arky on australias pollen index warning system,i'm not fully conversant with it.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:25 PM
Subject: aus-wx: POLLEN WARN.

Re: Richard Modistach:
        Hello to you. No...lol...the pollen warnings here are non-existant. The last few years have been pretty heavy on pollen accumulation. Some of the larger US cities (Dallas, Houston, etc.) do have various stages of OZONE warnings(caused by car exhaust).(Ozone Action Days). Some towns in or near drought areas may have blowing dust advisories, or ground blizzard warnings(where loose accumulated snow is being whipped around by fierce winds). ...Modistach...an interesting last name...what nationality is it? My Mom's maiden name is Lasiter, is that a common name there? (Here, about the only real pollution is when the Forest Service does nearby controlled burns in the forests).
         Have a great week   David Powell
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 05:49:28 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nature at work X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If the Murray goes bone dry are there any plans to merge the two states Vic and NSW? Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:19:46 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Nature at work > Nature will be at work again today. Frosts and below zero temps as we > are now getting here, heralds the movement of the Murray Cray(fish) and > the disappearance of the Yabbie for the cold period. The Murray Cray > goes into the breeding phase and the Yabbie hides in the mud until the > warmer months. > The Murray Cray may be an out of bounds catch next year as there are > not too many big ones being caught. Growth to full size can take ten > years apparently. > Not sure where they are going to swim as the Murray can now be crossed > on foot in several places. > Bussy (NE Victoria) > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: other areas same weather Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 10:02:54 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
 
Martin wrote
>I agree that it is quite interesting to find out about the situation in other areas of the world. It is amazing how much one area can affect another even when it is >thousands of miles away. We see this with the El-Nino affect. Everywhere is interconnected in one way or another.
That's why I think the moon is such an influencing factor. The whole earth rotates under the same moon in 24 hours. The Australian Bight is having a cold spell. So are we in NZ. The moon is today at its southern declination. Down here we always get colder airstreams at S declination time which translates into drier weather in the north of NZ but wintry conditions in the south.
Ken Ring
From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aus Wx" Subject: aus-wx: Cold pool wanders Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:36:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, Have noticed that the cloud associated with the upper low that has been doing a bit of a 'gypsy' over southeastern Australia for the past few days has now reached northeast Victoria as the system now heads to the southwest...... Any thoughts? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: other areas same weather Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 09:09:01 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Ken wrote:
The Australian Bight is having a cold spell. So are we in NZ. The moon is today at its southern declination. Down here we always get colder airstreams at S declination time which translates into drier weather in the north of NZ but wintry conditions in the south.
What cold spell in the Bight?  Where are you getting your obs from? The Bight is currently under a mild northwesterly flow at the surface. 
 
Didn't Auckland have extensive storms over the last day or so with more showers forecast?
 
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From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Drizzly dry humour Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 09:38:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Well if were not for the bloody great gum tree outside my front door, I could have been forgiven for thinking I had woken up somewhere in the U.K. this morning - for the 2nd time in a week morning conditions were 13C with a light drizzle under 8/8 dull overcast at Mt. Crosby SEQ, 26km west of Brisbane. Sounds to me like a typical London forecast, lol. I think that the SEVERE DRIZZLE warning was prematurely cancelled, Anthony. Rainfall 6:00pm to midnight last: 1.0mm - pretty similar to the last drizzle event which only yielded 1.8mm that being it for May so far. John. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: POLLEN WARN. Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 10:44:44 +1000 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
I am not aware of any pollen warning system.
 
Mark Hardy
The Weather Company Pty. Ltd.
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of richard modistach
Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2002 6:52 AM
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Subject: Fw: aus-wx: POLLEN WARN.

thanks for your reply arky, can you please send me your email address to  hambone at dodo.com.au
 
regards RM
p.s. can someone enlighten arky on australias pollen index warning system,i'm not fully conversant with it.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:25 PM
Subject: aus-wx: POLLEN WARN.

Re: Richard Modistach:
        Hello to you. No...lol...the pollen warnings here are non-existant. The last few years have been pretty heavy on pollen accumulation. Some of the larger US cities (Dallas, Houston, etc.) do have various stages of OZONE warnings(caused by car exhaust).(Ozone Action Days). Some towns in or near drought areas may have blowing dust advisories, or ground blizzard warnings(where loose accumulated snow is being whipped around by fierce winds). ...Modistach...an interesting last name...what nationality is it? My Mom's maiden name is Lasiter, is that a common name there? (Here, about the only real pollution is when the Forest Service does nearby controlled burns in the forests).
         Have a great week   David Powell
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 11:07:54 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: POLLEN WARN. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Apparently not as such, but the NSW state government Healt Department site is worth a look. http://www.sesahs.nsw.gov.au/PublicHealth/Alerts.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 11:24:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Paul & RM go take a pill or something & try to relax will you both! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: alex coates To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [129.127.41.27] Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 11:13:39 +0930 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: aus-wx: Cold Weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, 1.2c in Adelaide's north this morning, 4.7c in the city and about 10 sites statewide at 0c or below lowest -2 Yunta, in the desert. And again -1 at Naracoorte, it must be bloody cold down there. Thats 3 days in a row at -1c. There was even hail in Port Lincoln at Midday yesterday. There was reportly storms in the southern Mt Lofty Ranges on Monday. The clouds were fairly spectaculur viewed from the city. Sadly, I didn't get any photos. Alex Coates __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Cold Weather in the Bight? Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 12:18:38 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane, Would this not qualify as cold weather in the Bight??? -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of alex coates Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:44 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Cold Weather Hi Everyone, 1.2c in Adelaide's north this morning, 4.7c in the city and about 10 sites statewide at 0c or below lowest -2 Yunta, in the desert. And again -1 at Naracoorte, it must be bloody cold down there. Thats 3 days in a row at -1c. There was even hail in Port Lincoln at Midday yesterday. There was reportly storms in the southern Mt Lofty Ranges on Monday. The clouds were fairly spectaculur viewed from the city. Sadly, I didn't get any photos. Alex Coates >snip >Ken wrote: >The Australian Bight is having a cold spell. So are we in NZ. The moon is today at its >southern declination. Down here we always get colder airstreams at S declination time >which translates into drier weather in the north of NZ but wintry conditions in the south. What cold spell in the Bight? Where are you getting your obs from? The Bight is currently under a mild northwesterly flow at the surface. Didn't Auckland have extensive storms over the last day or so with more showers forecast? Jane +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold Weather Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 12:41:35 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, I only got down to 7.3C this morning in Golden Grove but it prevent from going down any further due to some light wind all night steady with up to moderate breeze. I was thinking if we going to have lower min soon one night and never happened up here in foothills for such as due to air mixing overnight up the hills. Pretty abnormal at this time of this year. Noarlunga would have got it same as I see on obs. From Nathan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "alex coates" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:13 AM Subject: aus-wx: Cold Weather > Hi Everyone, 1.2c in Adelaide's north this morning, 4.7c in the city > and about 10 sites statewide at 0c or below lowest -2 Yunta, in the > desert. And again -1 at Naracoorte, it must be bloody cold down there. > Thats 3 days in a row at -1c. There was even hail in Port Lincoln at > Midday yesterday. There was reportly storms in the southern Mt Lofty > Ranges on Monday. The clouds were fairly spectaculur viewed from the > city. Sadly, I didn't get any photos. > > Alex Coates > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at countryenergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: storms - bathurst To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:48:52 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 29/05/2002 01:48:52 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 1.45pm. Just getting a nice storms here in Bathurst at present, very loud thunder directly around our building, enough to make some of us jump our seats. Rain started about 20 min ago. Another interesting afternoon night for Bathurst area. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les Crossan" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arky Dave Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 20:00:21 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
God help us all, i can remember someone called Damian posting on usw plugging his website. Noone flamed him or said it was for UK weather only, indeed some of us said "welcome to uk.sci.weather"....
 
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arky doesn't but it sounds like you do damian.
 

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From: David.Carroll at countryenergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: snow on roads To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:13:51 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 29/05/2002 04:13:52 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 4.15pm. Hearing reports still re snow on roads between Bx and Lithgow. There was also an accident at 2.20pm.. all traffic has been diverted around Hwy to Bx to Wallerawang. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Tim Eckert To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [203.220.183.151] Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:14:31 +1000 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: Re: aus-wx: POLLEN WARN. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Does anyone know where Adelaide's news services get there nightly pollen warnings from then? Who works them out and how? Tim. Original message from: "Mark Hardy" Message
I am not aware of any pollen warning system.
 
Mark Hardy
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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of richard modistach
Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2002 6:52 AM
To: weather mailing list
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: POLLEN WARN.

thanks for your reply arky, can you please send me your email address to  hambone at dodo.com.au
 
regards RM
p.s. can someone enlighten arky on australias pollen index warning system,i'm not fully conversant with it.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:25 PM
Subject: aus-wx: POLLEN WARN.

Re: Richard Modistach:
        Hello to you. No...lol...the pollen warnings here are non-existant. The last few years have been pretty heavy on pollen accumulation. Some of the larger US cities (Dallas, Houston, etc.) do have various stages of OZONE warnings(caused by car exhaust).(Ozone Action Days). Some towns in or near drought areas may have blowing dust advisories, or ground blizzard warnings(where loose accumulated snow is being whipped around by fierce winds). ...Modistach...an interesting last name...what nationality is it? My Mom's maiden name is Lasiter, is that a common name there? (Here, about the only real pollution is when the Forest Service does nearby controlled burns in the forests).
         Have a great week   David Powell
__________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: snow on roads Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:35:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi David, As with yesterday I'm having a great deal of trouble believing this. With a similar setup around today it is almost definitely small hail lying around after a hail shower has passed that has got people thinking 'snow'. With the cold air aloft and plenty of cloud around to keep the sun off, that is a rather likely scenario. The surface temps all over the tablelands are way too warm for even local 'freak' falls for mine. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of David.Carroll at countryenergy.com.au Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2002 4:14 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: snow on roads 4.15pm. Hearing reports still re snow on roads between Bx and Lithgow. There was also an accident at 2.20pm.. all traffic has been diverted around Hwy to Bx to Wallerawang. Dave ######################################################################## ############# This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ######################################################################## ############# +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: Unusual hail shower at Blackheath Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:35:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blackheath 4.33pm Hail began falling at 4.15pm and became heavy about 4.18pm, then continued until it turned to rain mixed with hail at 4.28pm, easing off now. Pathways completely covered by stones of a remarkably consistent 4mm diameter and *very* slippery. No thunder. No rain until 4.28. Very hard to tell which direction it came from, seeming to develop right on top of us. Will be interesting to see what effect it has on traffic. Temperature now 5 deg in the screen but feels colder, so the mercury-in-glass thermometer may still be responding. Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at countryenergy.com.au Subject: RE: aus-wx: snow on roads To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:49:51 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 29/05/2002 04:49:53 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI Andrew. Seems same as yesterday with these reports. It does feel awfully cold around here, no where near cold enough though as you stated. We did get down to around 1 deg last night with plenty of moisture around. Humidity 69 % . .. Would be good to see some decent snow. Seems like Friday is a good day as mentioned in the weatherzone forum. !! I would advise everyone travelling on any roads near Bathurst , Lithgow, to be very careful, many accidents this morning and afternoon. Some very serious with chopper being called in to 2 of them. Dave "Andrew Miskelly" u> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: aus-wx: snow on roads aussie-weather-approval at wor ld.std.com 29/05/2002 04:35 PM Please respond to aussie-weather Hi David, As with yesterday I'm having a great deal of trouble believing this. With a similar setup around today it is almost definitely small hail lying around after a hail shower has passed that has got people thinking 'snow'. With the cold air aloft and plenty of cloud around to keep the sun off, that is a rather likely scenario. The surface temps all over the tablelands are way too warm for even local 'freak' falls for mine. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of David.Carroll at countryenergy.com.au Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2002 4:14 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: snow on roads 4.15pm. Hearing reports still re snow on roads between Bx and Lithgow. There was also an accident at 2.20pm.. all traffic has been diverted around Hwy to Bx to Wallerawang. Dave ######################################################################## ############# This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. 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The Beginnings of Typhoon Hagibis
Although it eventually reached “Super Typhoon” status, on May 15, 2002, Typhoon Hagibis was just getting started in the western Pacific Ocean north of New Guinea. This QuikSCAT image shows the wind speed and direction.
 
Remainder of story and image - for your interest : 
 
Love Sha
 

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From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: High Hogging Victorians Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:22:12 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Seems every time I look at a weather chart these days there's a big H sitting over Victoria.
An H over Victoria means an L over NZ.
Cheers 
Steven W
 
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Cold pool wanders Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 18:00:35 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, good riddance. RM ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane ONeill To: Aus Wx Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:06 AM Subject: aus-wx: Cold pool wanders > Morning all, > > Have noticed that the cloud associated with the upper low that has been > doing a bit of a 'gypsy' over southeastern Australia for the past few days > has now reached northeast Victoria as the system now heads to the > southwest...... > > Any thoughts? > > Jane > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fog Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 18:29:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Here is a formula for fog forecasting that appears on P. 172 of 'The Challenge of the Atmosphere' by O G Sutton (Hutchinson Science Library, 1962):
T(r)=1/2(T(m) + T(d)) - K where
T(r) is the temperature about an hour after sunset
T(m) is the maximum temperature during the day in a Stevenson screen
T(d) is the dewpoint at that time
K=1 deg F if there is no inversion below 900mb (about 1000 metres)
K=4 deg F if there is an inversion.
 
From T(r) the subsequent cooling of the air, and hence the night minimum temperature, can be estimated from graphs. It was found useful for fog forecasting at airfields.
I take it the actual temperature one hour after sunset was measured and simple linear regression analysis performed on subsequent observations to arrive at a useful estimate, by regressing the actual readings against the theoretical. I guess that means taking hourly readings all night, unless one uses a thermograph!
 
To forecast frost, the same book on the next page suggests that if less than 2/10ths of the sky is covered in cloud and the surface wind is no more than 4 knots, frost will form at night if
 
T(14) +1/2Td(14) < 79 deg F where
T914) and Td(14) are respectively the screen dry bulb and dewpoint temperature at 1400 hours. In England it was found to be fairly trustworthy.
 
Pity I don't have metric equivalents for the above....!
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:09 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Fog

How do we "forecast" a fog occurring?
Frost is relatively straight forward but what about fog?
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: What a family this is.. Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 18:45:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I don't think I can recall seeing anything quite like this...6 of them all together.. http://www.metservice.co.nz/maps/swp_1800_analysis.asp I hope they're not too dysfunctional weather wise..there's probably no human habitation down there anyway (wish I had a good map)... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned by Norton AntiVirus and is certified to be free of viruses. Keith Barnett Weather fanatic and classical piano player +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Shane Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: Ex T.C Upia Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 18:42:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi All,
        
         Looks like the end of Upia today now downgraded to a T.D at 1005 hpa.
 
With it so late in the year now I think it will be alot quieter over the Coral Sea for the next 6 months at least, though this year's season was slow to start for the East Coast.
 
         Time to turn our attention to the northern hemisphere's Typhoons and Hurricanes.
 
 
Regards Shane
 
At 290600UTC. Ex-Tropical Cyclone "Upia" located near 10.4S 155.9E moving SE at
about 7 knots. Central pressure 1005 hPa. Tropical trough from 03S142E to Ex-TC
to 17S170E. A second trough developing from Ex-TC to 17S161E to a low developing
off the NSW coast near 30S156E to be near 30S160E by 301100utc. 
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 18:46:52 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: High Hogging Victorians Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:22 PM 29/05/2002 +1200, you wrote: >Seems every time I look at a weather chart these days there's a big H >sitting over Victoria. Someone apparently put up a sign over Bass Strait... "Free Parking for High Pressure Systems Only" ;-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nature at work Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 18:43:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow! Isn't that a sore point in Albury/Wodonga. :-)) ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Smith To: Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:49 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nature at work > If the Murray goes bone dry are there any plans to merge the two states > Vic and NSW? > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Bussy" > To: "aussie-weather" > Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:19:46 +1000 > Subject: aus-wx: Nature at work > > > Nature will be at work again today. Frosts and below zero temps as we > > are now getting here, heralds the movement of the Murray Cray(fish) and > > the disappearance of the Yabbie for the cold period. The Murray Cray > > goes into the breeding phase and the Yabbie hides in the mud until the > > warmer months. > > The Murray Cray may be an out of bounds catch next year as there are > > not too many big ones being caught. Growth to full size can take ten > > years apparently. > > Not sure where they are going to swim as the Murray can now be crossed > > on foot in several places. > > Bussy (NE Victoria) > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: My WM-918 had a hic-cup :( Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 19:30:22 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
*Gasp!*
You DON'T know what a WM-918 is???   Unbelievable!   :P lol
 
Have a look here... 
 
 
ps. What's a Davis? ;)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:15 AM
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: My WM-918 had a hic-cup :(

<snip>
 i dont know what a wm-918 is, mine's a davis.
<snip>
RM
From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold Weather Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 19:49:04 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Got down to 7.7C here at my place at Morphett Vale (Noarlunga) at around 7:10am this morning. A lot of dew on the windshield of my 4wd also. brrrrrrrr. Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:41 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold Weather > Hi, > > I only got down to 7.3C this morning in Golden Grove but it prevent from > going down any further due to some light wind all night steady with up to > moderate breeze. I was thinking if we going to have lower min soon one night > and never happened up here in foothills for such as due to air mixing > overnight up the hills. Pretty abnormal at this time of this year. > > Noarlunga would have got it same as I see on obs. > > From Nathan. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: storms - bathurst Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 19:53:20 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hmph! Not Fair :( Adelaide's wx is sooo mundane at the moment. Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:18 PM Subject: aus-wx: storms - bathurst > 1.45pm. > > Just getting a nice storms here in Bathurst at present, very loud thunder > directly around our building, enough to make some of us jump our seats. > Rain started about 20 min ago. > > Another interesting afternoon night for Bathurst area. > > Dave +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: NICE TO MEET YOU Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 05:48:30 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Re.:Richard Modistach:
        Yes, this is the first anything I've posted into. I might've posted on a US message board, if I knew about one(I might not either, as I can usually get my fill of US weather, by weather.com or several other sources)., but I don't see or hear much from the far-away (mysterious) land of Australia. I've been online for almost 14 months now, have visited the Sig Wx Summary, Aus. wx Index, and Daily Extreme Sites almost daily-and decided to give the message board a try. I indeed massively enjoy the Weatherzone site. (I love satellite loops). THANKS for your family background. NO, I'm not a stormchaser, but I've thought it would be neat to be one for a season. The US stormchase season is about to wind down. This is due to the weather pattern stabilizing; the weakness of frontal systems, and the lack of necessary temp. diff. in clashing airmasses. This is our 4th straight day with rain as we are being afflicted with a "cutoff" Low. Tornadoes in my area are pretty rare(outside the eastern fringe of "Tornado Alley".) Does Australia experience "cutoff" Lows? (Low pressure systems that are cutoff from jetstream flow and meander slowly; dropping good amts. of rain). Standing By    David Powell
X-Sender: gthurtel at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 22:19:26 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Geoff Thurtell Subject: Re: aus-wx: More (Bad!) SDS Humour Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Anthony, Does this mean that the people of SE Queensland are suffering such severe SDS that they are having mass "wet" dreams? Sorry... I'll just go back into hibernation for winter now... :-) Geoff At 07:03 PM 28/05/02 +1000, you wrote: >I couldn't resist writing this... > >Water From the Sky > >Eyewitnesses report a strange watery substance to >be falling from the sky this afternoon. "I was sitting inside and I >looked outside and there was this water stuff falling out the sky! I >thought I was dreaming," was the account of one eyewitness. The watery >substance, later identified by the Bureau of Meteorology as "rain" > >AC > Geoff Thurtell Schofields NSW +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Fog Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 00:15:04 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
wow, exellent keith, i'm hanging out to put these to the test but how the hell do i work out if there's an inversion or not. i can't jump that high and i doubt that CAA would let me put up a baloon on a string.
 
regards RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fog

Here is a formula for fog forecasting that appears on P. 172 of 'The Challenge of the Atmosphere' by O G Sutton (Hutchinson Science Library, 1962):
T(r)=1/2(T(m) + T(d)) - K where
T(r) is the temperature about an hour after sunset
T(m) is the maximum temperature during the day in a Stevenson screen
T(d) is the dewpoint at that time
K=1 deg F if there is no inversion below 900mb (about 1000 metres)
K=4 deg F if there is an inversion.
 
From T(r) the subsequent cooling of the air, and hence the night minimum temperature, can be estimated from graphs. It was found useful for fog forecasting at airfields.
I take it the actual temperature one hour after sunset was measured and simple linear regression analysis performed on subsequent observations to arrive at a useful estimate, by regressing the actual readings against the theoretical. I guess that means taking hourly readings all night, unless one uses a thermograph!
 
To forecast frost, the same book on the next page suggests that if less than 2/10ths of the sky is covered in cloud and the surface wind is no more than 4 knots, frost will form at night if
 
T(14) +1/2Td(14) < 79 deg F where
T914) and Td(14) are respectively the screen dry bulb and dewpoint temperature at 1400 hours. In England it was found to be fairly trustworthy.
 
Pity I don't have metric equivalents for the above....!
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:09 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Fog

How do we "forecast" a fog occurring?
Frost is relatively straight forward but what about fog?
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: Quiet US season Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 06:52:20 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
As David Powell suggests, it has been a quiet storm season in Tornado Alley. There have been 8 moderate risk days,
no strong risk days, and not a lot of tornadoes reported. Maybe June might be more active? 
Steven W
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: QUIET SPRING Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:25:49 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Re: Steven Williams:
       Hello. Yes, there may be twisters in June, but the atmosphere is stabilizing and the tornadoes may be a lot less frequent and strong than from late March through early May. I subscribe to the major newspaper in Arkansas, the ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE. On the weather page, the World temps. are forecasts instead of actual temps. The forecast yesterday for Auckland was showers, high 56F(13.3C) Low 45F(7.2C). How close was this to actual?
       Have a good one  David Powell
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: TWISTERS Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:09:17 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Folks:
        I was wondering, what are some strange things that tornadoes have done in Australia? In the U.S. I have heard about twisters that:
         * drove straw into iron posts.
          * picked up a lighted lantern, carried it for 1/4MI and set it down, intact and still lit.
         * picked up cars and set them upright on top of 2-story buildings.
         * stripped bark off of trees!
          *(and my favorite), the F5 twister that hit Jerrell, Texas, a few years ago, carried a checkbook for over 100MI(166.6km) before dropping it.
          P.S. What's the longest time that ya'll have been under a burn ban? The bans here don't last for much more than 7-10 days.
           Yours,       David Powell
From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: TWISTERS Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:41:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi David,
 
Probably the most bizarre story I can relate is from video footage I have seen of the aftermath of a severe hailstorm in Vic.  It was possibly a hail wrapped twister or severe meso.  In any event it hit a farmhouse out in the country.  Outside damage was visible but not that severe, in that windows on all sides of the house were smashed, with a flyscreen door half torn off.  All the chickens in the yard were killed and defeathered and trees mangled.  (from memory).
 
But what was amazing was how the inside of the house had been completely trashed by hail coming in the windows.  All the furniture was hail and water damaged and the internal plaster walls peppered with hail stone dents, even above internal doorways.   Just staggering.
 
Would love to get a copy of this footage if possible, ASWA people..
 
John.
>snip-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of arky dave
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:09 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: TWISTERS

Hello Folks:
        I was wondering, what are some strange things that tornadoes have done in Australia? In the U.S. I have heard about twisters that:
         * drove straw into iron posts.
          * picked up a lighted lantern, carried it for 1/4MI and set it down, intact and still lit.
         * picked up cars and set them upright on top of 2-story buildings.
         * stripped bark off of trees!
          *(and my favorite), the F5 twister that hit Jerrell, Texas, a few years ago, carried a checkbook for over 100MI(166.6km) before dropping it.
          P.S. What's the longest time that ya'll have been under a burn ban? The bans here don't last for much more than 7-10 days.
           Yours,       David Powell
From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Owner assistance please Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:24:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi guys
 
I have attempted to open a new subscription in a different email address as Dingo Blue bites the dust this afternoon, but my new subscription has yet to be conformed.  I sent the details to Major domo and received a reply that I would be notified by the list owner.
 
My address that I need to remove is bibly11 at dingoblue.net.au and the address I requested as a new subscription is ogomoo at bigpond.com
 
If the owner is around, would you mind assisting this process please ?

I haven't as yet forwarded an unsubscription from the Dingo Blue address as I was waiting for the new address to be confirmed.
 
many thanks
Sha
 
 

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From: alex coates To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [129.127.41.28] Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:12:57 +0930 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, 3c on the northern Adelaide plains this morning as well as for the 10th day in a row an Air Frost and two ground frost. But with showers on the way it should hopefully warm up. I think the pollen rating that goes to Channel 9 in Adelaide comes from Asthma SA? Later Alex Coates __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 17:09:53 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Goler Subject: aus-wx: Weather station data X-X-Sender: robert at tornado.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all I picked a bad time to clear out my email. I know there was talk on the list about people posting data from their personal weather station to various websites. I was wondering if yuse could help me out, as a friend (just recently moved here from England) is in the process of setting up her weather station (WM 918), and asked the following: > I wanted to ask you whether anybody other than myself (and my young > son...naturally), would find any data which this station of mine might > produce of any use? In England I know people can set themselves up as > a data collecting post and all the figures are sent in to the Met > Office in Bracknell. I had visions of one day doing just this - except > of course I'm now in a completely different country, let alone > hemisphere. I'm slowly getting used to things being back to front... Can anyone help? And, yes Jane, I have told her about ASWA and she will try to get to a Vic meeting when the baby allows it. :-) Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:35:03 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List Subject: aus-wx: Rug Up Brisbanites! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Can feel the chill in the air already at 4:30pm...19/2 at the AP, already 17.8C at my place! Going to get well into the single figures tonight I think...possibly around 5C for the bayside, and Amberley should get close to 0 (if not hit 0 I would imagine). Brrr! -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fog Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 17:16:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
If you can get hold of a temperature sounding (a skew-T diagram) that would give it away, otherwise I'd take a punt that if the winds are relatively calm there would be an inversion.Or if the sky has any stratocumulus or other shallow low cloud that would probably indicate one as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:45 AM
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Fog

wow, exellent keith, i'm hanging out to put these to the test but how the hell do i work out if there's an inversion or not. i can't jump that high and i doubt that CAA would let me put up a baloon on a string.
 
regards RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fog

Here is a formula for fog forecasting that appears on P. 172 of 'The Challenge of the Atmosphere' by O G Sutton (Hutchinson Science Library, 1962):
T(r)=1/2(T(m) + T(d)) - K where
T(r) is the temperature about an hour after sunset
T(m) is the maximum temperature during the day in a Stevenson screen
T(d) is the dewpoint at that time
K=1 deg F if there is no inversion below 900mb (about 1000 metres)
K=4 deg F if there is an inversion.
 
From T(r) the subsequent cooling of the air, and hence the night minimum temperature, can be estimated from graphs. It was found useful for fog forecasting at airfields.
I take it the actual temperature one hour after sunset was measured and simple linear regression analysis performed on subsequent observations to arrive at a useful estimate, by regressing the actual readings against the theoretical. I guess that means taking hourly readings all night, unless one uses a thermograph!
 
To forecast frost, the same book on the next page suggests that if less than 2/10ths of the sky is covered in cloud and the surface wind is no more than 4 knots, frost will form at night if
 
T(14) +1/2Td(14) < 79 deg F where
T914) and Td(14) are respectively the screen dry bulb and dewpoint temperature at 1400 hours. In England it was found to be fairly trustworthy.
 
Pity I don't have metric equivalents for the above....!
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:09 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Fog

How do we "forecast" a fog occurring?
Frost is relatively straight forward but what about fog?
Bussy (NE Victoria)
X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: aus wx: Going off on the Eyre Peninsula Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 17:39:33 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2002 07:39:33.0934 (UTC) FILETIME=[2449ACE0:01C207AD] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Notice a couple of decent storms (red on the radar) from Ceduna radar on the Eyre Peninsula, at the moment (5.45 pm EST)



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Hello Anthony et al

Do you people have any heating for cold mornings? I s'pose you just throw the air con into reverse thrust.

Surprised Brisbane can get down so low.  Guess I must have been taken in by all the tourist propaganda about beautiful one day, perfect the next.  Checking BoM Climate Averages, I notice there's not a great difference between Sydney Airport and Brisbane Airport mean minima, over winter, and it would seem that Brisbane Airport is capable of lower extremes than Sydney Airport.  Both of course are by the sea.

Michael

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>Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:35:03 +1000
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>Hi all,
>
>Can feel the chill in the air already at 4:30pm...19/2 at the AP,
>already 17.8C at my place! Going to get well into the single figures
>tonight I think...possibly around 5C for the bayside, and Amberley
>should get close to 0 (if not hit 0 I would imagine).
>
>Brrr!
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From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Fog Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:27:17 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
thanks keith, i'll look into how often mt. gambier takes their soundings, but i dare say not often enough for what i want. the baloon on a string idea has always intrigued me, i must give it a try sometime, need to develop a thermo transmitter of some kind.
 
regards RM
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Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fog

If you can get hold of a temperature sounding (a skew-T diagram) that would give it away, otherwise I'd take a punt that if the winds are relatively calm there would be an inversion.Or if the sky has any stratocumulus or other shallow low cloud that would probably indicate one as well.
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Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Fog

wow, exellent keith, i'm hanging out to put these to the test but how the hell do i work out if there's an inversion or not. i can't jump that high and i doubt that CAA would let me put up a baloon on a string.
 
regards RM
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fog

Here is a formula for fog forecasting that appears on P. 172 of 'The Challenge of the Atmosphere' by O G Sutton (Hutchinson Science Library, 1962):
T(r)=1/2(T(m) + T(d)) - K where
T(r) is the temperature about an hour after sunset
T(m) is the maximum temperature during the day in a Stevenson screen
T(d) is the dewpoint at that time
K=1 deg F if there is no inversion below 900mb (about 1000 metres)
K=4 deg F if there is an inversion.
 
From T(r) the subsequent cooling of the air, and hence the night minimum temperature, can be estimated from graphs. It was found useful for fog forecasting at airfields.
I take it the actual temperature one hour after sunset was measured and simple linear regression analysis performed on subsequent observations to arrive at a useful estimate, by regressing the actual readings against the theoretical. I guess that means taking hourly readings all night, unless one uses a thermograph!
 
To forecast frost, the same book on the next page suggests that if less than 2/10ths of the sky is covered in cloud and the surface wind is no more than 4 knots, frost will form at night if
 
T(14) +1/2Td(14) < 79 deg F where
T914) and Td(14) are respectively the screen dry bulb and dewpoint temperature at 1400 hours. In England it was found to be fairly trustworthy.
 
Pity I don't have metric equivalents for the above....!
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:09 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Fog

How do we "forecast" a fog occurring?
Frost is relatively straight forward but what about fog?
Bussy (NE Victoria)
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Quiet US season Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:37:20 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
man, jimmy's going to be pissed off, no wonder we havent had any posts from him, when is he due back?
 
RM
naracoorte
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:22 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Quiet US season

As David Powell suggests, it has been a quiet storm season in Tornado Alley. There have been 8 moderate risk days,
no strong risk days, and not a lot of tornadoes reported. Maybe June might be more active? 
Steven W
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:14:26 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Quiet US season Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:37 PM 30/05/2002 +0930, you wrote: >man, jimmy's going to be pissed off, no wonder we havent had any posts >from him, when is he due back? LOL typical, Murphy strikes again! ;) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:19:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2002 09:19:29.0004 (UTC) FILETIME=[19A0C2C0:01C207BB] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I have to disagree, Jimmy will not be pi$$ed off, infact he, like many other US bashed chasers dont go out chasing for tornadoes, they are just a bonus to go along with a storm. Jimmy (and me) is hooked on a good structure, if i only see a storm like the Sydney on the other week, i will die a happy man. If you have been reading the forum (U.S storm season) you will see he and Mathew piper have been very busy, and no doubt having a ball.
 
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Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Quiet US season

man, jimmy's going to be pissed off, no wonder we havent had any posts from him, when is he due back?
 
RM
naracoorte
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:22 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Quiet US season

As David Powell suggests, it has been a quiet storm season in Tornado Alley. There have been 8 moderate risk days,
no strong risk days, and not a lot of tornadoes reported. Maybe June might be more active? 
Steven W
From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:43:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2002 09:43:50.0920 (UTC) FILETIME=[80FF7080:01C207BE] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Just fixing some Spelling Mistakes, Firstly it is BASED not bashed,and Sydeny ONE not Sydney on...
 
Also as for posting to Aussie-Wx, he is streched for time and obvoiusly wont want to miss some sleep justto email the list, i know i wouldn't, lol
 
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I have to disagree, Jimmy will not be pi$$ed off, infact he, like many other US bashed chasers dont go out chasing for tornadoes, they are just a bonus to go along with a storm. Jimmy (and me) is hooked on a good structure, if i only see a storm like the Sydney on the other week, i will die a happy man. If you have been reading the forum (U.S storm season) you will see he and Mathew piper have been very busy, and no doubt having a ball.
 
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Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:07 PM
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Quiet US season

man, jimmy's going to be pissed off, no wonder we havent had any posts from him, when is he due back?
 
RM
naracoorte
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:22 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Quiet US season

As David Powell suggests, it has been a quiet storm season in Tornado Alley. There have been 8 moderate risk days,
no strong risk days, and not a lot of tornadoes reported. Maybe June might be more active? 
Steven W
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Quiet US season Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:31:01 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
thats good to hear simon, for some reason i cant acess weatherzone atm, anyone else having problems.
 
RM
naracoorte
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season

I have to disagree, Jimmy will not be pi$$ed off, infact he, like many other US bashed chasers dont go out chasing for tornadoes, they are just a bonus to go along with a storm. Jimmy (and me) is hooked on a good structure, if i only see a storm like the Sydney on the other week, i will die a happy man. If you have been reading the forum (U.S storm season) you will see he and Mathew piper have been very busy, and no doubt having a ball.
 
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Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:07 PM
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Quiet US season

man, jimmy's going to be pissed off, no wonder we havent had any posts from him, when is he due back?
 
RM
naracoorte
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:22 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Quiet US season

As David Powell suggests, it has been a quiet storm season in Tornado Alley. There have been 8 moderate risk days,
no strong risk days, and not a lot of tornadoes reported. Maybe June might be more active? 
Steven W
From: "Peter Matters" To: Subject: aus-wx: Getting MIRC to work! Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 20:44:52 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I was running MIRC under WinXP (for#weather). After working flawlessly, I now get connection refused. I have dloaded TurboIRC3 with the same result!!!!!!!!!!! I am trying to connect to the Ausnet server. Any suggestions???? Cheers Peter Matters(Didjman) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Matters" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Getting MIRC to work! Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:02:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Further to my last, I cant even access http://www.kisser.net.au/kevans/Javachat/ which adds to my frustration:-((((((((( Cheers Peter(Didjman) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Matters" To: Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:44 PM Subject: aus-wx: Getting MIRC to work! > Hi all, > I was running MIRC under WinXP (for#weather). After working > flawlessly, I now get connection refused. I have dloaded TurboIRC3 with the > same result!!!!!!!!!!! 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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:42:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Peter Check that you don't have XP's inbuilt firewall switched on. It plays merry hell with mIRC Max -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Peter Matters Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2002 8:45 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Getting MIRC to work! Hi all, I was running MIRC under WinXP (for#weather). After working flawlessly, I now get connection refused. I have dloaded TurboIRC3 with the same result!!!!!!!!!!! I am trying to connect to the Ausnet server. Any suggestions???? 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Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:44 PM 30/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hi all, > I was running MIRC under WinXP (for#weather). After working >flawlessly, I now get connection refused. I have dloaded TurboIRC3 with the >same result!!!!!!!!!!! I am trying to connect to the Ausnet server. >Any suggestions???? >Cheers Peter Matters(Didjman) Something sounds a little strange. I just logged into the following server: starhub.sg.austnet.org:6667 Sitting in #weather now 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:21:13 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Getting MIRC to work! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:42 PM 30/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Peter > >Check that you don't have XP's inbuilt firewall switched on. >It plays merry hell with mIRC That could be it :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:12:10 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season

Just fixing some Spelling Mistakes, Firstly it is BASED not bashed,and Sydeny ONE not Sydney on...
 
<snip>
 
 
Hehe... your spelling fixes aren't that great either.. check your first Sydney :))   lol
 
From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 23:06:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2002 13:06:55.0263 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF6EA2F0:01C207DA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I should really type with 2 hands, (don't ask where the other one was) LOL... is a spell checker with OE 6.0, lol
 
*gone* and won't come back till i learn to spell....lol
 
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----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season

Just fixing some Spelling Mistakes, Firstly it is BASED not bashed,and Sydeny ONE not Sydney on...
 
<snip>
 
 
Hehe... your spelling fixes aren't that great either.. check your first Sydney :))   lol
 
From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Quiet US season Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 23:32:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
See you in 2038 then Simon :oPPP
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I should really type with 2 hands, (don't ask where the other one was) LOL... is a spell checker with OE 6.0, lol
 
*gone* and won't come back till i learn to spell....lol
 
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----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season

Just fixing some Spelling Mistakes, Firstly it is BASED not bashed,and Sydeny ONE not Sydney on...
 
<snip>
 
 
Hehe... your spelling fixes aren't that great either.. check your first Sydney :))   lol
 
From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Bathurst Paper today Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 00:05:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Snow, ice turns road into death trap
By Jacinta Carroll

THE Great Western Highway was shut down yesterday as ice and snow turned it into a potential death trap.

The highway was closed after two drivers lost control of their cars in separate accidents just before 2pm.

One car, an early model Holden Statesman slid off the roadway coming to rest at the side of the highway 10 kilometres east of Bathurst.

A second driver lost control of his car just 100 metres down the road, the car leaving the highway rolling into an adjoining gully.

Incredibly no one was seriously injured in either accident.

Ambulances attended three victims but no-one required further treatment.

Police believe a freak hail storm which occurred just before 2pm was a contributing factor in the accident, covering the highway with ice.

The accident was almost identical to one which occurred on Tuesday afternoon when two cars lost control in a hail storm, this time on the other side of Bathurst, just west of The Rocks.

Both accidents come just days after four people lost their lives in similar conditions at Meadow Flat.

From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: GLOBAL WARMING Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:54:46 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Howdy All:
         I was wondering what ya'll think about the theory of Global Warming? I don't think the phenomenon has hit Mena yet. As an example, Mena's AVG. HIGH for 1999 was 73.1F(22.8C), AVG. LOW was 49.9F(9.9C). For 2001, Mena's AVG. HIGH was 70.8F(21.5C), AVG. LOW was 49.2F(9.5C). Sounds like a small decline to me.
          P.S. My local weather posts may be irrelevant; but I didn't think that there was such a thing as irrelevant weather. It's all interconnected. Storms come off of Africa, grow into Hurricanes(Cyclones) head toward the U.S., may recurve, die out over the ocean, and hit Europe as showers/gales. The El Nino Phenomenon, starts not far from NE Australia and has a dramatic effect on the U.S. climate. What weather that one country is experiencing may tell you what kind of weather that you may expect later. Has Australia been spared from Cyclones by having them recurve (due to a front/steering winds) before they hit land?
           Your Ark. wx buff     David Powell
From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: QUIET SPRING Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 06:55:16 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi David,
Those temperatures for Auckland are spot on. Auckland has a unique maritime environment in that we have two major
coast lines, the west Coast and the East coast. Add to that two harbours, the Waitemata to the north and Manukau
to the south. Surrounded by water means Auckland temperatures are temperate and even. 13C is about as cold as it
gets for a high.
 
By the way, Auckland is home to the America's Cup but few Americans will know what sport that is.
 
Cheers
Steven Williams
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From: arky dave
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:25 AM
Subject: aus-wx: QUIET SPRING

Re: Steven Williams:
       Hello. Yes, there may be twisters in June, but the atmosphere is stabilizing and the tornadoes may be a lot less frequent and strong than from late March through early May. I subscribe to the major newspaper in Arkansas, the ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE. On the weather page, the World temps. are forecasts instead of actual temps. The forecast yesterday for Auckland was showers, high 56F(13.3C) Low 45F(7.2C). How close was this to actual?
       Have a good one  David Powell
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: WEBSITE Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 14:45:07 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello to Everyone:
       If anyone is interested about my area of the world, Mena's website is: http://www.mena-ark.com/   .Enjoy yourself, check out the menu and see what interests you. You will find much info. on Mena, the surrounding area, attractions, etc; you can even read the local newspaper, the MENA STAR. You'll find out why people have come through here as tourists, fallen in love with the area, and settled here. We also have a goodly number of retirees that have moved here from Northern US states and elsewhere. If anyone is interested, later I can give you the website for properties for sale in the Mena area.
        So, grab a few$$$, hop a plane/ship and come on down, we'd LOVE to have you.
         Your Ark. wx buff  David Powell
From: "Chas & Helen Osborn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: LAT & LON Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 06:03:54 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello David
 
Do you have any URL's for maps showing Mena.
 
Chas
Strahan Tasmania
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From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: aus-wx: LAT & LON

Re: Chas Osborn:
        Hello: Lat. and Lon. for Mena is roughly slightly North of 34DEG34MIN NORTH, and slightly East of 94DEG16MIN WEST. I hope you can find it! Mena is on US Hwy. 71, 80MI South of Fort Smith and 90 or so MI North of Texarkana.(Basically in the middle of nowhere).
 Happy searching,  Have a super week,  David Powell
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: URL MAPS/MENA Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:16:16 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
RE: Chas Osborn:
        Hello: You may find a map(topographic) of Mena, by going to americasroof.com  .You will see a map of the US. click on Arkansas, the list will then give you the counties of Arkansas and the highest named point in each county. Find Polk Co. and click on Rich Mountain. You will see a section of map either in 1:250000 or 1:100000 scale, for better detail click on 1:25000 scale, Mena is southeast of Rich Mtn, so click on the down and right hand arrows a few times until you find Mena, happy hunting,   David Powell
From: "arky dave" To: "aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: WEBSITE Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:35:25 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Everybody:
        If anyone is interested in my area of the world, I cordially invite you to visit Mena's website at http://www.mena-ark.com/   .Enjoy yourself as you see the menu and find something that interests you. You'll find out why quite a few people who came through as tourists fell in love with the area and settled here. A good number of retirees have come down from Northern US states and elsewhere and live here. You can even read the local newspaper, the MENA STAR. The site gives much info. on Mena, the surrounding area, attractions, etc. Topo Maps of the US/Arkansas/Polk County may be accessed from: americasroof.com.
        So, grab a few $$$, hop a plane/ship and come on down; we'd love to have you.(Especially if you cold Aussies/NZ'ers want to thaw out).
         Your Ark, wx buff  David Powell
From: "Peter Matters" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Getting MIRC to work! Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:05:01 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I turned the firewall off and get the following message: 08:02 | ***Resolving host name : au.austnet.org 08:02 | ***Connecting to : 63.121.24.250 08:02 | ***Error : Connection failed ! (10061 - WSAECONNREFUSED) Cheers Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max King" To: Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:42 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Getting MIRC to work! > Hi Peter > > Check that you don't have XP's inbuilt firewall switched on. > It plays merry hell with mIRC > > Max > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Matters > Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2002 8:45 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: Getting MIRC to work! > > Hi all, > I was running MIRC under WinXP (for#weather). After working > flawlessly, I now get connection refused. I have dloaded TurboIRC3 with > the > same result!!!!!!!!!!! I am trying to connect to the Ausnet server. > Any suggestions???? > Cheers Peter Matters(Didjman) > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aus Wx" Subject: aus-wx: Cold Victorian morning - records broken? Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:19:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Blair & all,
 
I noticed that Rutherglen got down to -4.1C at 7am this morning & then warmed <g> to -3.5C at 8am, while at 8am Mt Hotham was
-0.7C.
 
Any records broken last night? Wonder what winter will be like if this is **only** autumn........(well just)
 
Jane
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Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com
 
Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com
 
ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 07:55:01 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: aus wx: Going off on the Eyre Peninsula Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Would anyone like to speculate why a considerable cluster of storms fired up over the northern Eyre Peninsula along that pre-frontal trough yesterday - but seemingly nowhere else? What forcing mechanisms/moisture availability was present there but not elsewhere? Something in the mid-upper levels? The cluster looked impressive on the radar. Cheers Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Matters" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold Victorian morning - records broken? Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:54:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
        It was -2.6C here (Broadford)again this morning at 0500.
Cheers Peter
----- Original Message -----
To: Aus Wx
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:19 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Cold Victorian morning - records broken?

Blair & all,
 
I noticed that Rutherglen got down to -4.1C at 7am this morning & then warmed <g> to -3.5C at 8am, while at 8am Mt Hotham was
-0.7C.
 
Any records broken last night? Wonder what winter will be like if this is **only** autumn........(well just)
 
Jane
--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com
 
Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com
 
ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
--------------------------------
X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 09:12:25 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: aus-wx: US season and Aussie chasing Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, There has been some info from Jimmy and Matthew who have been chasing in the US. Please read the details here if you are interested: http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=5 then page 3 and 4 of the US Storm Season thread. regards, Michael ================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Getting MIRC to work! Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 09:46:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I just connected to au.austnet.org port 6667 using mIRC v5.91 with XP Pro and the firewall turned off and replaced with NPF2002. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Peter Matters Sent: Friday, 31 May 2002 8:05 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Getting MIRC to work! Hi all, I turned the firewall off and get the following message: 08:02 | ***Resolving host name : au.austnet.org 08:02 | ***Connecting to : 63.121.24.250 08:02 | ***Error : Connection failed ! (10061 - WSAECONNREFUSED) Cheers Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max King" To: Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:42 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Getting MIRC to work! > Hi Peter > > Check that you don't have XP's inbuilt firewall switched on. > It plays merry hell with mIRC > > Max > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Matters > Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2002 8:45 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: Getting MIRC to work! > > Hi all, > I was running MIRC under WinXP (for#weather). After working > flawlessly, I now get connection refused. I have dloaded TurboIRC3 with > the > same result!!!!!!!!!!! I am trying to connect to the Ausnet server. > Any suggestions???? > Cheers Peter Matters(Didjman) > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold Victorian morning - records broken? To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:38:49 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C2087B.DF7B6200 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Blair & all, > > I noticed that Rutherglen got down to -4.1C at 7am this morning & then = > warmed to -3.5C at 8am, while at 8am Mt Hotham was=20 > -0.7C. > > Any records broken last night? Wonder what winter will be like if this = > is **only** autumn........(well just) The Rutherglen AWS only reports max/min temps to whole degrees (annoyingly), so last night's min goes in as -4.0, even though there's an hourly temp of -4.1. -4.3 is the May record there. No other records as far as I know. The -5 at Bendigo (and the -6 at Condobolin, NSW) both look suspect by comparison to the hourly obs. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: MENA INFO Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:49:52 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Re: Chas Osborn:
       Greetings! the website for Mena is: http://www.mena.ark.com/   The website for Polk County is www.digital-neighbors.com/county/ar/polk701.htm  .If you want more info. I suggest you request a vacation packet from the Mena Chamber of Commerce,  524 Sherwood St. Mena, Ark. 71953. I'm not sure that a map of Mena is in the packet, so you might request one. I'm not sure how much postage you'd need for your request letter. If you call, their number is (479) 394-2912.  ENJOY!
         Your Ark. wx buff  David Powell
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:03:32 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: GLOBAL WARMING X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, Dave, we have seen cyclones recurve and miss Australia, but we also have many that come ashore. Fortunately the majority of the coastline where they tend to come ashore is sparsely populated so huge evacuations and large numbers of casualties/fatalities from cyclones, like those you hear about from US Hurricanes, are pretty rare. Having said that, many of us can remember Christmas Day 1974 when Cyclone Tracy virtually wiped out the city of Darwin, the Capital City of Australia's Northern Territory. See http://www.ntlib.nt.gov.au/tracy/ for details. To make a rough and far from accurate comparison with the US, think of the Pacific Coast of Queensland and Northern NSW as being equivalent to the Pacific Coast of the US - especially California and Baja California (Mexico). Cyclones form over the nearby sea but usually move off in the opposite direction away from the coast, exceptions to this see cyclones coming ashore, but not too many in any given year. I think Qld gets slightly more than the Pacific Coast of the Californias. Then think of the Indian Ocean coastline of Australia as being like the Atlantic coastline of the US. While some of the cyclones that form do miss the coast and head off in the opposite direction, large numbers do come ashore. However, if you compare the density of population around Highway One which follows the coast of Western Australia with the population density between Interstate 95 and the Atlantic coast of the US, you will see that there is a vast difference. This is the principal reason why you don't hear of huge tragedies every cyclone season from AUstralia. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "arky dave" To: Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:54:46 -0500 Subject: aus-wx: GLOBAL WARMING > Howdy All: > I was wondering what ya'll think about the theory of Global > Warming? I don't think the phenomenon has hit Mena yet. As an example, > Mena's AVG. HIGH for 1999 was 73.1F(22.8C), AVG. LOW was 49.9F(9.9C). > For 2001, Mena's AVG. HIGH was 70.8F(21.5C), AVG. LOW was 49.2F(9.5C). > Sounds like a small decline to me. > P.S. My local weather posts may be irrelevant; but I didn't > think that there was such a thing as irrelevant weather. It's all > interconnected. Storms come off of Africa, grow into > Hurricanes(Cyclones) head toward the U.S., may recurve, die out over > the ocean, and hit Europe as showers/gales. The El Nino Phenomenon, > starts not far from NE Australia and has a dramatic effect on the U.S. > climate. What weather that one country is experiencing may tell you > what kind of weather that you may expect later. Has Australia been > spared from Cyclones by having them recurve (due to a front/steering > winds) before they hit land? > Your Ark. wx buff David Powell > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: MENA WX INFO Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:11:13 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Greetings:
      Hope all is well. If any of you are interested in looking in on Mena's weather: go to www.weather.com(The Weather Channel) in the box in the upper left-hand side you can either enter: Mena,Ar  or 71953  and our radar map, current conditions, watches/warnings(if any) and long-range forecast appear.(On that site, it says our readings are taken at Mount Ida, and THEIR readings come from Hot Springs!; but you will get a good idea of what's happening.
       ENJOY!
        Your Aus/NZ wx fan    David Powell
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:22:34 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Owner assistance please X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Directions for most lists work like this: To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > message. To subscribe, simply send another e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "subscribe aussie-weather your_new_email_address" in the body of your message. If I got any of that wrong, please someone point it out. I went back a long way through my "weather" folder to dig that out. By the way, isn't/wasn't the unsubscribe directions at the bottom of every message? When did that stop happening? Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:24:40 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Owner assistance please > Hi guys > > I have attempted to open a new subscription in a different email > address as Dingo Blue bites the dust this afternoon, but my new > subscription has yet to be conformed. I sent the details to Major domo > and received a reply that I would be notified by the list owner. > > My address that I need to remove is bibly11 at dingoblue.net.au and the > address I requested as a new subscription is ogomoo at bigpond.com > > If the owner is around, would you mind assisting this process please ? > > I haven't as yet forwarded an unsubscription from the Dingo Blue > address as I was waiting for the new address to be confirmed. > > many thanks > Sha > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: 24/05/2002 > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Owner assistance please Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:47:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Many thanks Phil :)))) I had already sent these requests and have since communicated with Jacob and it is all rectified now thanks. BTW ..... those details seem to appear haphazardly on emails ...... eg : they are on the bottom of this one you sent ??? Love Sha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:22 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Owner assistance please Directions for most lists work like this: To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > message. To subscribe, simply send another e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "subscribe aussie-weather your_new_email_address" in the body of your message. If I got any of that wrong, please someone point it out. I went back a long way through my "weather" folder to dig that out. By the way, isn't/wasn't the unsubscribe directions at the bottom of every message? When did that stop happening? Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:24:40 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Owner assistance please +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.368 / Virus Database: 204 - Release Date: 29/05/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.0.101.6] From: "David Croan" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 14:03:19 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2002 04:03:20.0162 (UTC) FILETIME=[19BAEC20:01C20858] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Late May has certainly been on the quiet side given that it is the climatological maximum for tornadoes. April on the other hand was quite active with a persistent SW jet aloft. Currently the upper-level winds over Texas/Oklahoma look sleepy and the pattern does not seem to change much for the best part of a week. The guys have done very well and have been spot on in the choice of target on each of the big days. It also shows that severe weather is not guaranteed, even in central Oklahoma where there has been jack squat as far as tornadic supercells go so far this season. Also, it is worth emphasising that thunderstorm risks on the SPC Convective Outlook indicate the likely regional 'coverage' of severe thunderstorms (that is my understanding at least) - ie high risk usually means a nasty squall line. The high risk demarcation, on such a day, doesn't usually correlate with the best chance of seeing discrete supercells and tornadoes. The majority of tornado outbreaks seem to occur in a moderate risk although, occasionally, you get a situation like May 3 1999 which is exceptional. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:17:05 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Owner assistance please X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.5 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Where was this post hiding for 23 hours and 30 minutes after I posted it? Usually my posts come back within a few minutes. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:22:34 +0800 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Owner assistance please > Directions for most lists work like this: > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > > your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > To subscribe, simply send another e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "subscribe aussie-weather your_new_email_address" in the body of > your message. > > If I got any of that wrong, please someone point it out. I went back a > long way through my "weather" folder to dig that out. > > By the way, isn't/wasn't the unsubscribe directions at the bottom of > every > message? When did that stop happening? > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Sha" > To: "Aussie Weather" > Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:24:40 +1000 > Subject: aus-wx: Owner assistance please > > > Hi guys > > > > I have attempted to open a new subscription in a different email > > address as Dingo Blue bites the dust this afternoon, but my new > > subscription has yet to be conformed. I sent the details to Major > domo > > and received a reply that I would be notified by the list owner. > > > > My address that I need to remove is bibly11 at dingoblue.net.au and the > > address I requested as a new subscription is ogomoo at bigpond.com > > > > If the owner is around, would you mind assisting this process please > ? > > > > I haven't as yet forwarded an unsubscription from the Dingo Blue > > address as I was waiting for the new address to be confirmed. > > > > many thanks > > Sha > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: 24/05/2002 > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:46:28 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: Re: aus-wx: Owner assistance please Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It bounced, so it had to be forwarded to the list manually. - - The reason why it bounced is because you had the word unsubscribe in the first lines of your email. Jacob At 12:17 PM 31/05/2002 +0800, you wrote: >Where was this post hiding for 23 hours and 30 minutes after I posted it? >Usually my posts come back within a few minutes. > >Phil ><>< > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk >Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: "Phil Smith" >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:22:34 +0800 >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Owner assistance please > >> Directions for most lists work like this: >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> > to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather >> > your_email_address" in the body of your >> > message. >> To subscribe, simply send another e-mail >> to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "subscribe aussie-weather your_new_email_address" in the body of >> your message. >> >> If I got any of that wrong, please someone point it out. I went back a >> long way through my "weather" folder to dig that out. >> >> By the way, isn't/wasn't the unsubscribe directions at the bottom of >> every >> message? When did that stop happening? >> >> Phil >> <>< >> >> International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk >> Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk >> Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk >> Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Sha" >> To: "Aussie Weather" >> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:24:40 +1000 >> Subject: aus-wx: Owner assistance please >> >> > Hi guys >> > >> > I have attempted to open a new subscription in a different email >> > address as Dingo Blue bites the dust this afternoon, but my new >> > subscription has yet to be conformed. I sent the details to Major >> domo >> > and received a reply that I would be notified by the list owner. >> > >> > My address that I need to remove is bibly11 at dingoblue.net.au and the >> > address I requested as a new subscription is ogomoo at bigpond.com >> > >> > If the owner is around, would you mind assisting this process please >> ? >> > >> > I haven't as yet forwarded an unsubscription from the Dingo Blue >> > address as I was waiting for the new address to be confirmed. >> > >> > many thanks >> > Sha >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> > Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: 24/05/2002 >> > >> >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >> + >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >> your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- >> - > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 15:50:42 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rug Up Brisbanites! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, Trust me - plenty of heaters up here!!! The main thing I think is the moisture (or lack of) in winter. Even though we're a fair distance north, the dry air means minimums can really drop, especially with the SW'ly winds. Daytime temps are normally in the low 20s...that's the main thing, we tend to get a little warmer than say Sydney during the day. Night time it is similar, or at times even colder. But Obs Hill does have a significant heat island effect, although the Brisbane CBD also seems to have a heat island effect (but it's an inconsistent effect...I still think it's a dodgy site!) The Brisbane AP got down to 5C last night, I got down to 5.3C myself. 5C also at Archerfield (southern suburbs), and 1C at Amberley <-1C grass temp>, and is located on the far western fringes. Logan City was 6C and is also on the south side. The CBD only got down to 8C though...I have a feeling the 5 and 6 degree temps recorded in most areas are probably more reliable than the CBD temp. None the less - still awfully cold! You're right though...the Brisbane AP is capable of lower extremes...I think that's a combination of decreased moisture in Brisbane during winter and the heat island effect at Obs Hill. AC michael king wrote: > > Hello Anthony et al > > Do you people have any heating for cold mornings? I s'pose you just > throw the air con into reverse thrust. > > Surprised Brisbane can get down so low. Guess I must have been taken > in by all the tourist propaganda about beautiful one day, perfect the > next. Checking BoM Climate Averages, I notice there's not a great > difference between Sydney Airport and Brisbane Airport mean minima, > over winter, and it would seem that Brisbane Airport is capable of > lower extremes than Sydney Airport. Both of course are by the sea. > > Michael > > >From: Anthony Cornelius > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: Australian Weather Mailing List > >Subject: aus-wx: Rug Up Brisbanites! > >Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:35:03 +1000 > > > >Hi all, > > > >Can feel the chill in the air already at 4:30pm...19/2 at the AP, > >already 17.8C at my place! Going to get well into the single figures > >tonight I think...possibly around 5C for the bayside, and Amberley > >should get close to 0 (if not hit 0 I would imagine). > > > >Brrr! > >-- > >Anthony Cornelius > >Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > >Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > >(07) 3390 4812 > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click > Here > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:02:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2002 06:03:09.0213 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6BD0CD0:01C20868] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This is from Jimmy, on the WZ forum....hyope he doesn't mind me passing it on.
 
Hi all,
 
I note that some people have suggested it is a quiet season here in the US and it has been - particularly tornado wise. Structure wise though, it has been business as usual. Once storms have developed, they have remained long lived as they often do in the types of wind shear profiles in the US. Lightning wise, I have been afraid on a few occasions. I am one that normally likes to be out and enjoying storms rather than be sit in the car. But I tell you, I have made the effort to get these times. Hail wise, we have had opportunities to touch up the car with a few deep dents. There is no shortage of supercells willing to do the job for you!!! The supercells over here really mean business. You don't find out until you go under them!!!
 
Anyway, let's hope that a good outbreak US style occurs and we can see some long lived rotation:)))
 
Well that is on the current wish list.
 
Jimmy Deguara
 
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Croan" <wxbustchase at hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season

> Late May has certainly been on the quiet side given that it is the
> climatological maximum for tornadoes. April on the other hand was quite
> active with a persistent SW jet aloft. Currently the upper-level winds over
> Texas/Oklahoma look sleepy and the pattern does not seem to change much for
> the best part of a week. The guys have done very well and have been spot on
> in the choice of target on each of the big days.
>
> It also shows that severe weather is not guaranteed, even in central
> Oklahoma where there has been jack squat as far as tornadic supercells go so
> far this season.
>
> Also, it is worth emphasising that thunderstorm risks on the SPC Convective
> Outlook indicate the likely regional 'coverage' of severe thunderstorms
> (that is my understanding at least) - ie high risk usually means a nasty
> squall line. The high risk demarcation, on such a day, doesn't usually
> correlate with the best chance of seeing discrete supercells and tornadoes.
> The majority of tornado outbreaks seem to occur in a moderate risk although,
> occasionally, you get a situation like May 3 1999 which is exceptional.
>
>
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From: alex coates To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [203.166.46.74] Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 15:49:11 +0930 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: aus-wx: Dull end to May Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Precipitation followed by Fog was how most of SA ended May. The Fog seemed most previlant in the Northern Suburbs espicaly Craigmore, Parafield, Paralowie, Edinburgh and to a lesser extent across at least the rest of the metro area. It cleared in Adelaide before 9am but hung around in the north generally to 10am but in some places to later. The rain was generally 0 to 5mm with about 12 stations mostly in the northern metro area and the hills having over 10mm. The rain mostly fell between about 2210 and 2310 last night. The highest was 14.4mm at Paralowie and Roseworthy Agricultural. This now gives 60.9mm for May of an avearge 51.5mm 118% of the average and put me only 10.6mm below the average for the year to the end of May. Despite having a drier than normal Feb, Mar and Apr. Adelaide City is about 10mm down on the average for May. Regards Alex __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Dull end to May To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 17:11:51 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hi, Precipitation followed by Fog was how most of SA ended May. > The Fog seemed most previlant in the Northern Suburbs espicaly > Craigmore, Parafield, Paralowie, Edinburgh and to a lesser extent > across at least the rest of the metro area. It cleared in Adelaide > before 9am but hung around in the north generally to 10am but in > some places to later. The rain was generally 0 to 5mm with about 12 > stations mostly in the northern metro area and the hills having > over 10mm. The rain mostly fell between about 2210 and 2310 last > night. The highest was 14.4mm at Paralowie and Roseworthy > Agricultural. > > This now gives 60.9mm for May of an avearge 51.5mm 118% of the > average and put me only 10.6mm below the average for the year to > the end of May. Despite having a drier than normal Feb, Mar and Apr. > Adelaide City is about 10mm down on the average for May. > Interestingly, although only about 2% of Australia had above-average rain for May, this included two of the major centres (Adelaide and Darwin), as well as areas near Sydney and Brisbane. (This is the exact reverse of the 2000 situation, which was the second-wettest year on record for Australia as a whole, but drier than normal in all the state capitals except Adelaide). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 17:19:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Oh well, Simon, just as well you didn't use a spoonerism...chased bashers....!
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Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season

Just fixing some Spelling Mistakes, Firstly it is BASED not bashed,and Sydeny ONE not Sydney on...
 
Also as for posting to Aussie-Wx, he is streched for time and obvoiusly wont want to miss some sleep justto email the list, i know i wouldn't, lol
 
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Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season

I have to disagree, Jimmy will not be pi$$ed off, infact he, like many other US bashed chasers dont go out chasing for tornadoes, they are just a bonus to go along with a storm. Jimmy (and me) is hooked on a good structure, if i only see a storm like the Sydney on the other week, i will die a happy man. If you have been reading the forum (U.S storm season) you will see he and Mathew piper have been very busy, and no doubt having a ball.
 
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Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:07 PM
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Quiet US season

man, jimmy's going to be pissed off, no wonder we havent had any posts from him, when is he due back?
 
RM
naracoorte
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:22 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Quiet US season

As David Powell suggests, it has been a quiet storm season in Tornado Alley. There have been 8 moderate risk days,
no strong risk days, and not a lot of tornadoes reported. Maybe June might be more active? 
Steven W
From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: DIR FOR MENA TOPO MAP Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 03:28:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Re. Chas Osborn:
       G'DAY. The following are directions for finding Mena on a topo map:
  Go to: americasroof.com/counties.shtml
   CLICK on Arkansas, a new page will come up with the counties of Arkansas on the lefthand side.
    Scroll down to Polk County, CLICK on Rich Mtn. Lookout Tower, a quadmap will load, either a 1:200000 or 1:100000 scale(elev. in meters) with Rich Mtn.(marked) in the middle.
     For greater detail CLICK on the number(just above top edge of map window) 1:25000, a quadmap will load in(now elevs, in feet).;after maps load, CLICK the Southeast arrow(lower right hand), CLICK Southeast arrow a total of 4 times(let each quadmap load fully in before clicking), after the 4th time, after map has loaded, CLICK the South arrow(bottom) 2 times,(let map fully load each time before clicking). Once this is done you will be on the north end of Mena, then you can click in any direction you wish.  Enjoy   David Powell
From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 18:18:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2002 08:19:06.0159 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4A83BF0:01C2087B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
lol, my grammar has been shocking lately...
 
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Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season

Oh well, Simon, just as well you didn't use a spoonerism...chased bashers....!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season

Just fixing some Spelling Mistakes, Firstly it is BASED not bashed,and Sydeny ONE not Sydney on...
 
Also as for posting to Aussie-Wx, he is streched for time and obvoiusly wont want to miss some sleep justto email the list, i know i wouldn't, lol
 
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Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Quiet US season

I have to disagree, Jimmy will not be pi$$ed off, infact he, like many other US bashed chasers dont go out chasing for tornadoes, they are just a bonus to go along with a storm. Jimmy (and me) is hooked on a good structure, if i only see a storm like the Sydney on the other week, i will die a happy man. If you have been reading the forum (U.S storm season) you will see he and Mathew piper have been very busy, and no doubt having a ball.
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:07 PM
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Quiet US season

man, jimmy's going to be pissed off, no wonder we havent had any posts from him, when is he due back?
 
RM
naracoorte
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:22 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Quiet US season

As David Powell suggests, it has been a quiet storm season in Tornado Alley. There have been 8 moderate risk days,
no strong risk days, and not a lot of tornadoes reported. Maybe June might be more active? 
Steven W
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 19:11:02 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Getting MIRC to work! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:05 AM 31/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hi all, > I turned the firewall off and get the following message: > >08:02 | ***Resolving host name : au.austnet.org >08:02 | ***Connecting to : 63.121.24.250 >08:02 | ***Error : Connection failed ! (10061 - WSAECONNREFUSED) Try sydney.nsw.au.austnet.org Or just tell mIRC to use any server in the Austnet group. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rug Up Brisbanites! Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 19:13:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2002 09:13:39.0489 (UTC) FILETIME=[73B6C110:01C20883] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Apparently the colour of soil can effect temps. So lighter colours are warmer and darker colours are colder. That might sound wrong, but remember black bitumen shows frost sooner than light coloured paving. I wonder whether at these airports soil colour may have a slight influence ???? A slightly wild thought I know. Regards Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 3:50 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rug Up Brisbanites! > Hi Michael, > > Trust me - plenty of heaters up here!!! > > The main thing I think is the moisture (or lack of) in winter. Even > though we're a fair distance north, the dry air means minimums can > really drop, especially with the SW'ly winds. Daytime temps are > normally in the low 20s...that's the main thing, we tend to get a little > warmer than say Sydney during the day. Night time it is similar, or at > times even colder. But Obs Hill does have a significant heat island > effect, although the Brisbane CBD also seems to have a heat island > effect (but it's an inconsistent effect...I still think it's a dodgy > site!) The Brisbane AP got down to 5C last night, I got down to 5.3C > myself. 5C also at Archerfield (southern suburbs), and 1C at Amberley > <-1C grass temp>, and is located on the far western fringes. Logan City > was 6C and is also on the south side. The CBD only got down to 8C > though...I have a feeling the 5 and 6 degree temps recorded in most > areas are probably more reliable than the CBD temp. None the less - > still awfully cold! > > You're right though...the Brisbane AP is capable of lower extremes...I > think that's a combination of decreased moisture in Brisbane during > winter and the heat island effect at Obs Hill. > > AC > > michael king wrote: > > > > Hello Anthony et al > > > > Do you people have any heating for cold mornings? I s'pose you just > > throw the air con into reverse thrust. > > > > Surprised Brisbane can get down so low. Guess I must have been taken > > in by all the tourist propaganda about beautiful one day, perfect the > > next. Checking BoM Climate Averages, I notice there's not a great > > difference between Sydney Airport and Brisbane Airport mean minima, > > over winter, and it would seem that Brisbane Airport is capable of > > lower extremes than Sydney Airport. Both of course are by the sea. > > > > Michael > > > > >From: Anthony Cornelius > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > >To: Australian Weather Mailing List > > >Subject: aus-wx: Rug Up Brisbanites! > > >Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:35:03 +1000 > > > > > >Hi all, > > > > > >Can feel the chill in the air already at 4:30pm...19/2 at the AP, > > >already 17.8C at my place! Going to get well into the single figures > > >tonight I think...possibly around 5C for the bayside, and Amberley > > >should get close to 0 (if not hit 0 I would imagine). > > > > > >Brrr! > > >-- > > >Anthony Cornelius > > >Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > >Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > >(07) 3390 4812 > > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click > > Here > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: QUIET SPRING Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 19:59:29 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Ahhh.. So that's where the "Old Mug" has ended up!
Lost track of it there for a while after we (Australia) had our turn with it  ;)  lol
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: QUIET SPRING

<snip>
By the way, Auckland is home to the America's Cup but few Americans will know what sport that is.
 
Cheers
Steven Williams
From: "Shane Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: SEQ Rain Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 20:52:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi All,
        It's interesting to note that the forcast for early next week in the SE Qld region is forcasting rain.  An upper level trough is moving through the region and expected to form an east coast low bringing strong to gale force winds on Sunday, Monday and easing Tuesday.
 
Could be interesting....
 
 
Shane
 
Gold Coast S.E.Q
 
This upper trough will induce a low at the surface on Sunday and
consequently strong to gale force winds will develop about the southern coast
during Sunday and Monday before staring to ease on Tuesday. Showers will develop
along most of the coast during Saturday and increase to rain on Sunday. Some
moderate to heavy falls will develop about the southern coast and eastern Downs
on Monday. Further inland about the south-east of the state showers and drizzle
areas with local thunder will develop on Sunday and then continue through til
about Tuesday. 
From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Vortex street (sort of) Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 20:56:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Did anyone else in Melbourne spy the amazing cloud formations ~1300hours to the north and northeast preceding the passage of the front? I managed to get 1 photo which I'll get developed tomorrow......they were almost lenticular clouds, and yet not... what looked like a 'downwind formation' of whorls (eg: sort of vortex street or eddying like in a river along the edges of the faster moving current) was amazing to behold with each element being the reverse of the one upstream of it and larger - never seen anything like it!! Hard to describe - but an amazing feature - I'll scan the pic tomorrow. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: MSC updates Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 21:47:38 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Have added Tony Middleton's brilliant lightning images http://bigmax.yi.org:6969/users/anvils/020201lightning.htm from that amazing night of February 1 this year in southern Victoria - that now makes **8** photo reports from **10** people!! If you haven't checked out the rest of Tony's photography yet - you should!! - the link to his site is http://bigmax.yi.org:6969/users/anvils/ Also added towards the bottom of the page are the New Zealand & Hong Kong weather lists (the latest discussion on the HK list is...."Melbourne weather"). http://www.stormchasers.au.com PS: the next ASWA meeting is the 22nd June at 8.30am....... details later Enjoy!! -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 23:25:07 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vortex street (sort of) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sounds like the "cats eyes" roll up at a horizontal speed shear level ? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 23:35:05 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vortex street (sort of) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This is easier to see the overall picture. http://www.atmos.ucla.edu/~fovell/AS180/khi.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 23:33:54 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vortex street (sort of) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sounds like the cats eyes of the Kelvin Helmholtz Instability. Does this look similar ? http://uniblab.atmos.ucla.edu/~fovell/AS180/khiloop.gif +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: DEG. LAT./LON. Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:37:36 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey Ya'll:
        I just figured out that if you convert Mena's DEGREES of Lat./Lon. into DEGREES CELSIUS, Mena's new location would be:
        1.1DEG NORTH by 34.4 DEG WEST,
  Which would put us in the Atlantic Ocean, about midway between South America and Africa.
         HMMMM.....I think I like DEGREES of Lat./Lon. BETTER!
 LOL..LOL...LOL...LOL..LOL..LOL..
          Hope this made your day a little funnier.
          Have a great weekend and an interesting June!
          In ho-hum wxland    David Powell
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 23:55:54 +1000 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vortex street (sort of) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Kelvin-Helmholtz Instability. See also: http://fuse.pha.jhu.edu/~danforth/cloudshock/node5.html http://www.msi.umn.edu/Projects/twj/mhdkh3d/be.mpeg http://www.msi.umn.edu/Projects/twj/mhdkh3d/page4.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------