http://australiasevereweather.com/ From: "Martin Davey" To: Subject: aus-wx: Dry Adelaide Summer Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 00:59:13 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All! A very dry Summer in Adelaide with only 34mm of rain and no rain at all in February. The last rain day here was Jan 28 when there was 0.4mm!! I think there was only one thunder day and that was early in December. All round a very poor and uninteresting summer. Martin > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie weather (new)'" Subject: aus-wx: North Wollongong February Stats - Wet!! Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 08:37:06 +1100 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <75F9F329329FD311820000805F15FA9604CC160B at itwol-msg01.itwol.bhp.com.au> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi list, This one goes into the bag for a wet February, which I imagine would be the case for most of the coastal fringe of NSW. Here goes: Rainfall - 350.4mm vs 109mm average (AWS) Raindays - 22 vs 13 average Mean max - 25.1 Mean min - 17.8 Highest daily rainfall - 109.8mm (5th) It has certainly been a decent month for rain, although only around 2-3 thunder days. I'd reckon it'll be a while until my rainguage cracks the ton again, after getting 102mm during the day of the 5th with another 7mm overnight as well. Cheers Andrew Godsman EOM NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that is confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any dissemination, copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly forbidden, as is the disclosure of the information therein. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the message. Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\aus-wx North Wollongong Februa" From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Some Gilmore Stats for February so far. A very wet month and To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 11:01:33 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hi Don, > > Not sure on the official figures...one of the farmers that owns a large > (several thousand acres), has had that land for 3 generations, and they > never had a summer where they didn't record less than 100mm (I forget > the actual amount). The farm gets more rainfall than Amberley generally > though, as it is very close to the Liverpool range and normally > showers/storms move off the range right over the farm. But that hasn't > happened. However, there is a line of heavy showers (possibly storms) > moving slowly across now - fingers crossed! Toowoomba had 10.6mm in > 10mins - not bad! > > AC > > Don White wrote: > > > > Anthony... would this be a record dry summer in thta area?? > > don > > > > Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > > > > > My parents' farm have only had 27mm since December 1st, > > > 2001...absolutely shocking! > > > > > > Hope the upcoming shower/storm activity can bring something! > > > They must have been VERY unlucky with the thunderstorm activity around the New Year, and at other times. Amberley got 220mm for the summer, but 66.8 of this was on December 31 - January 1, another 51.2 on February 3 and three other days in the 22-33 range. The lowest at any Bureau station, leaving aside some suspected incomplete reports, was 68 at Rosewood (still well below average though). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Some Gilmore Stats for February so far. A very wet month and max well below average . Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 10:42:30 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2002 23:43:24.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[B66D10F0:01C1C0B1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Supercell. Is that 27mm for the whole summer!. That's got to be some sought of record,almost as bad as Adelaide and Perth, are you sure you want to live there, just three days of stratocu have sent me into post non summer (we didn't really have a summer here on the south coast of Vic) deprivation and as the baric ridge strengthens only more stratocu, although the stratocu was precipitating some drizzle this morning. regards Clyve Herbert. PS does this mean that the new capital of nothing happening award will go to Cornelioppolis instead of Wollongong?. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Cornelius To: Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:33 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Some Gilmore Stats for February so far. A very wet month and max well below average . > My parents' farm have only had 27mm since December 1st, > 2001...absolutely shocking! > > Hope the upcoming shower/storm activity can bring something! > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Some Gilmore Stats for February so far. A very wet month and Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:16:28 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Blair, I live about 15kms NE from Amberley AFB and only received about half that rainfall for the entire summer (normally I would expect to get a bit more than Amberley, being closer to the coast & next to a range), so I think it is a case of Amberley being lucky. Certainly a number of heavy storms tracked just to the South of Ipswich this year. I will collate my stats tonight. Regards, John. p.s. 6mm since midnight so March is starting off on the right foot. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Blair Trewin Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:02 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Some Gilmore Stats for February so far. A very wet month and > > Hi Don, > > Not sure on the official figures...one of the farmers that owns a large > (several thousand acres), has had that land for 3 generations, and they > never had a summer where they didn't record less than 100mm (I forget > the actual amount). The farm gets more rainfall than Amberley generally > though, as it is very close to the Liverpool range and normally > showers/storms move off the range right over the farm. But that hasn't > happened. However, there is a line of heavy showers (possibly storms) > moving slowly across now - fingers crossed! Toowoomba had 10.6mm in > 10mins - not bad! > > AC > > Don White wrote: > > > > Anthony... would this be a record dry summer in thta area?? > > don > > > > Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > > > > > My parents' farm have only had 27mm since December 1st, > > > 2001...absolutely shocking! > > > > > > Hope the upcoming shower/storm activity can bring something! > > > They must have been VERY unlucky with the thunderstorm activity around the New Year, and at other times. Amberley got 220mm for the summer, but 66.8 of this was on December 31 - January 1, another 51.2 on February 3 and three other days in the 22-33 range. The lowest at any Bureau station, leaving aside some suspected incomplete reports, was 68 at Rosewood (still well below average though). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: My photo gallery Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 21:36:37 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've now got a new wx photo gallery online! It doesn't have much in it yet, but I thought you guys may be interested in the software that drives it. https://redcliffe.dyndns.org/gallery/ Note that that is https not http. Running on https instead of http makes most of the annoying worms not notice it, not that it would matter though because I'm running Linux. The software is from http://gallery.sf.net and is pretty damn cool. It lets you make public and private galleries, albums, sub-albums, captioning etc. You can even comment on a picture. So if you thing my pictures are stupid, you can tell me :-). Now I'll finally be able to manage my weather photos effectively and get them online well. I'd just like one more feature that would allow me to add a chase report to a subalbum. Oh well. Thanks, David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8fhZFF2H7v0XOYBIRAlACAKCv7ZRRPXRdg55VkHvldFN00iMruACgx0To fxJlWsMpBY9XHi8HfEG8kf8= =uVOb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: aus-wx: Summer summary (fwd) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 17:37:53 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >From B.Trewin at bom.gov.au Fri Mar 1 17:29 EST 2002 Received: from jetstream.ho.bom.gov.au (jetstream.ho.BoM.GOV.AU [134.178.5.1]) by atlas.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA12913 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 17:29:20 +1100 (EST) Received: by jetstream.ho.BoM.GOV.AU with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 17:21:30 +1100 Message-ID: From: Blair Trewin To: "'blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au'" Subject: Summer summary Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 17:21:29 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Length: 4945 I'm sure you've been waiting for this.... Averaged over Australia as a whole, summer was the 25th wettest in 111 years of record. National temperature anomalies were: Max -0.79 (7th lowest in 52 years) Min -0.61 (6th lowest; coolest since 1974-75) Mean -0.70 (5th lowest) In terms of mean temperatures, it was the coolest summer in the 52-year record in Western Australia and South Australia, and over the southern Australian region. In the SW region it was 2nd to 1959-60; it was 5th in Victoria and 7th in Tasmania. In contrast, it was the 6th warmest summer in Queensland, which was the only state to return a positive anomaly. Summer mean maxima were the lowest on record in Victoria (previously 1995-96) and South Australia (1971-72), as well as over the southern region (1999-2000). WA and Tasmania were 3rd. Summer mean minima were lowest on record in SA (previously 1971-72), and 2nd in WA. No record regional temperatures were broken in February, but there were a few near-misses in WA (mean and min 2nd lowest, max 3rd lowest), SA (mean and min 3rd lowest, max 4th lowest). The national anomalies for February were max -1.26 (5th, lowest since 1976), min -0.66 (9th), mean -0.96 (6th, lowest since 1974). Queensland had its 5th warmest February. Most regions had above-median rainfall both for February and for summer as a whole, but only WA's February total (9th highest) was in the top decile. 6 of WA's 9 wettest Februarys have been in the ten years 1993-2002. Moving onto numbers for specific sites: (I give rankings where a value is in the top or bottom decile) Perth Airport Max 30.3 (anomaly -0.4) Min 15.3 (-1.1) Rainfall 17.0mm (48% of normal, decile 4) Darwin Airport Max 32.2 (+0.4) Min 25.7 (+0.8; 4th highest, record 26.0 in 1985-86) Rainfall 740.8mm (72%, decile 2) Adelaide Max 25.7 (-2.7; equal lowest with 1948-49*) Min 14.3 (-2.2; equal lowest with 1939-40) Rainfall 34.8mm (52%, decile 3) 19 days over 30 (2nd lowest after 18 in 1948-49); 4 nights over 20 (equal lowest with 1985-86) * The SA office's press release says 25.6 - we're trying to resolve this inconsistency but think it may be due to an observation time issue. Brisbane Airport Max 29.9 (+1.0; equal 3rd highest, record 30.2 1985-86) Min 21.0 (+0.5) Rain 184.8 (41%, decile 1, 3rd lowest, record 132.8 1985-86) 15 consecutive days over 30 28 Jan - 11 Feb (2nd to 16 days 26 Dec 1963 to 10 Jan 1964) Sydney RO Max 26.1 (+0.6) Min 19.1 (+0.9) Rain 484.8 (162%, decile 9) Canberra AP Max 26.7 (-0.2) Min 12.7 (+0.3) Rain 257.8 (155%, decile 9) Melbourne RO Max 24.0 (-1.2; 13th lowest, record 23.1 1863-64) Min 14.2 (+0.4) Rain 156.0 (103%, decile 6) Hobart Max 19.8 (-1.3; 6th lowest, record 19.2 1995-96) Min 11.6 (+0.1) Rain 143.4 (98%, decile 6) Townsville Max 33.3 (+2.1; highest, previous record 32.7 1984-85) Min 25.7 (+1.7; highest, previous record 25.2 1986-87) Rain 623.0 (90%, decile 6) 20 days over 35 (previous record 11 1993-94), including 7 consecutive (equal record) Broome Max 32.1 (-1.2; 2nd lowest, record 32.0 1996-97) MIn 26.1 (-0.1) Rain 451.8 (112%, decile 7) Alice Springs Max 33.4 (-2.1; 3rd lowest, record 31.7 1975-76) Min 18.8 (-2.0; 3rd lowest, record 17.6 1974-75) Rain 244.0 (205%, decile 9) 33 nights over 20, 2nd lowest (23, 1974-75) Mount Gambier Max 22.0 (-2.3; 2nd lowest, record 21.5 1948-49) Min 9.9 (-0.9) Rain 102.8 (116%, decile 8) 8 days over 30; lowest on record (previously 9, 1944-45) Longreach Max 38.2 (+1.5) Min 22.5 (0.0) Rain 132.4 (62%, decile 3) Cairns Max 32.6 (+1.3; equal record with 1991-92) Min 24.5 (+1.0; highest, previous record 24.4 1990-91) Rain 405.2 (39%, decile 1; 4th lowest, record 258.4 1982-83) Port Hedland Max 35.1 (-1.2; 4th lowest, record 34.7 1950-51) MIn 24.6 (-0.3) Rain 35.6 (20%, decile 2) Albany AP Max 21.7 (-2.7; lowest, previous record 23.2 1995-96) MIn 12.7 (-0.8) Rain 137.2 (187%, decile 10; 3rd highest, record 195.2 1988-89) 3 days over 30; lowest on record (previously 5 on several occasions) Kalgoorlie Max 30.4 (-2.1; 4th lowest, record 29.7 1959-60) MIn 15.9 (-1.6; equal lowest with 1959-60) Rain 53.0 (77%, decile 9) Also of some note is that some stations on the Pilbara/Gascoigne coast (such as Carnarvon, Learmonth and Onslow) got no rain in summer (or in November). All three stations have had a rainless November-February period before, but some of the cumulative totals are starting to get impressively low; Learmonth has had 0.6mm in the last 7 months, and Onslow 15.2mm in the last 12. Leaving aside anomalies which appear to be based on dodgy climatologies, the extreme anomalies for the summer seem to be: Max +3.4 (Clermont, Qld) -3.6 (Giles, WA; not for the first time in recent years) Min +2.7 (Alva Beach, Qld) -3.4 (Stawell, Vic) Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Some Gilmore Stats for February so far. A very wet month and max well below average . Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 22:44:09 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > mean that the new capital of nothing happening award will go to > Cornelioppolis instead of Wollongong?. At least for a month. We did as Andrew G post pointed to get a bit of rain this month. Storm wise it was so-so. Keeping up with a long tradition the western Illawarra hosted to birth of a supercell that became Sydney's storm. One day I will nail one of these at Picton. I am peisitance will finally get me there. Michael +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Summer summary (fwd) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 23:00:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great stats Blair, When I got down to it, my summer rain total was actually 188.3mm which is not that far off Amberley's 220, and very close to Brisbane's 184.8 (below). The Ipswich composite mean is 350.5mm, thus we are well down on average. In fact January's rainfall at 35.7mm was just on decile 1. My mean max temps were up on the Ipswich composite: Dec 33.6 (+1.7), Jan 34.0 (+1.9), Feb 32.5 (+1.5). Which I guess you would expect if there is little rain about as it implies a drier atmosphere and hence typically higher temps. As I mentioned in a previous email, my mean max for the 15 days Dec 20 through Jan 3 was 37.1C - a real heatwave, plus 39 consecutive days over 30C from Jan 6 through Feb 13 (Feb 14 was 29.9C sigh). Would be interesting to compare that to Amberley. Regards, John W. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Blair Trewin Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:38 PM To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Summer summary (fwd) ... Brisbane Airport Max 29.9 (+1.0; equal 3rd highest, record 30.2 1985-86) Min 21.0 (+0.5) Rain 184.8 (41%, decile 1, 3rd lowest, record 132.8 1985-86) 15 consecutive days over 30 28 Jan - 11 Feb (2nd to 16 days 26 Dec 1963 to 10 Jan 1964) ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Chas & Helen Osborn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Summer summary (fwd)> Content-Length: 4945 Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:25:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > I'm sure you've been waiting for this.... > > Averaged over Australia as a whole, summer was the 25th wettest in 111 years > of record. > > Port Hedland Max 35.1 (-1.2; 4th lowest, record 34.7 1950-51) > MIn 24.6 (-0.3) > Rain 35.6 (20%, decile 2) > Hello Blair Is decile 2 lowest 20%, decile 9 highest 10%? Do you know a url if you do not have the time to explain? regards Chas Strahan Tasmania +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: aus-wx: TC Potential Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 12:16:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Just a quick note on the weather for QLD and a week tropical disturbance seems to be around the solomon islands.. It might have the potential to develop into a TC. Jason º¿º +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Potential Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 14:03:15 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Very interesting for next weekend for eastern NSW also..that low (or cyclone-to be) looks like helping an easterly stream feed into an inland trough of sorts, a bit like we had earlier in Feb...
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Hi all,

Just a quick note on the weather for QLD and a week tropical disturbance
seems to be around the solomon islands..
It might have the potential to develop into a TC.
Jason
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From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon Mitag Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 14:49:07 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Afternoon all, The Guam cyclone page has some local details re Typhoon Mitag - the very long URL is the Local Statement - Storm 1 http://205.156.54.206/pr/guam/cyclone.html http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/fmtbltn.pl?file=hurricane_products/weste rn_pacific/storm_1/local_stmt.txt&title=Tropical+Cyclone%3CBR%3ELocal+St atement&maxage=006&alturl=http://www.nws.noaa.gov/pr/guam/nodata.html Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.29.156.4] From: "T Middleton" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tony Middleton lightning. Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 05:07:11 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2002 05:07:11.0438 (UTC) FILETIME=[1C2BBEE0:01C1C1A8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hi Clyve, thanks for the complimentary reply...i guess i just may have got lucky. ;) here's hoping for more oppotunties in the near future. kind regards TM >From: "Clyve Herbert" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: Tony Middleton lightning. >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 14:35:52 +1100 > >Hi Tony. >Your lightning photograph is 1st class stuff ,congratulations its one of >the best I have seen, the balance with the water does the trick. best >regards Clyve Herbert. cya tm http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 16:16:10 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tony Middleton lightning. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yep great photo there Tony! Plenty more in the future for you I'm sure! Matthew Smith T Middleton wrote: > hi Clyve, > thanks for the complimentary reply...i guess i just may have got lucky. ;) > here's hoping for more oppotunties in the near future. > > kind regards TM > > >From: "Clyve Herbert" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: > >Subject: aus-wx: Tony Middleton lightning. > >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 14:35:52 +1100 > > > >Hi Tony. > >Your lightning photograph is 1st class stuff ,congratulations its one of > >the best I have seen, the balance with the water does the trick. best > >regards Clyve Herbert. > > cya tm > http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp1.ihug.co.nz: Host p77-nas6.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.216.77] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Just in theory Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 19:15:39 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi,
I would have thought urban environments do more to reduce humidity than increase it.
It has been proven that urban heat islands can trigger thunderstorms. In large cities like London (UK) the extra
heat that human activity adds to the atmosphere can be enough to 'tip the scales' and trigger convection.
And of coarse all that concrete and bitumen stores heat making urban nights warmer than the city environs.
I'm sure a large city like Melbourne would have a pronounced urban heat island.
interesting
Steven W
Auckland
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From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:06 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Just in theory

I've always had this little nagging thought in the back of my head which may get me committed one day.
Just in theory. If say Melbourne had a 40 degree day and there were a million air con's running (possible), and a fair bit of this gets released to atmosphere with leakages etc. Would the day have been well into the 40's there but never made it because of all these factors?
Say for instance that they were all evap type coolers and released lots more moisture into the air during this "hot" day. Would it help with storm potential with the added humidity?
OK. I'm coming back to my room now........
Bussy (Rutherglen, NE Victoria)
X-Authentication-Warning: smtp2.ihug.co.nz: Host p77-nas6.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.216.77] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: Question on Lightning Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 19:32:41 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
What are the factors that contribute to the frequency of lightning within a Cumulonimbus cell?
I have seen large cb that produce little or no lightning. Is it to do with the velocity of the updraught?
I think the most rapidly forming cb are the most lightning active.  
Steven W
 
 
X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p649-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.142.141] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 17:46:22 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Theory on Ball Lightning?? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Below is a message sent to me by Michael Lee in regards to his theory on ball lightning. I have had permission to forward it on for some comments debate. Perhaps until he joins on (if he does), could you cc his e-mail address mdlee at shaw.ca so he could receive your comments and opinions This is out of my league I suppose. Jimmy Deguara -------------------------------------------- Greetings I developed this theory of ball lightning while working on buckminster fullerene years ago. Would you be so kind as go give me your opinion. Thank you for your time Michael Lee Lethbridge AB mdlee at shaw.ca BALL LIGHTNING BY Michael Lee Carbon, ionized gas, metal atoms, vaporized rock and silica atoms. How do these come together to form ball lightning? Two items play a major role. Carbon and silica are reduced to atomic soot by lightning, and when they condense they can form buckyball structures. I believe that this is the basis of Ball Lightning phenomena. These round ball cage like structures have a unique ability to contain hundreds of elements within the cage, and will also stick to each other. Hey can capture atoms in the shell itself, which then means it can bond to other shells, or form pearl like strings. The body of Ball lightning is formed in fractions of seconds, when the conditions are right. Lightning strikes the ground and trillions of carbon atoms and the admix of other components, rush into the plasma umbilical, the vacuum of the lightning strike. Each carbon atom, not unlike a cell in the Ball Lightning, rapidly wants to bond while condensing into a bigger object, still to small to be seen with microscopy. An infinitely small seed of ball lightning forms first, and like cells of an organ, start to make up the body. Carbon sheets form from the burnt soot, first, hot and vibrating atoms, then these sheets collapse by condensation into cages. These balls of carbon wrap around the essential nature of Ball lightning. Each carbon ball, of variable sizes and constituents, completes its condensation by encapsulating the residue left behind by the lightning strike. Some carbon cages capture bonded strings of silica, which go on burning. Some silica forms into cage structures and may indeed capture carbon also. Other hyper fullerenes capture each other, using shared atoms of the metals in the vaporized dirt. A bi-polar soup of pulsing energy is hosted by carbon and silica s innate ability to form soccer ball shapes. These shaped balls bond to each other in many intricate ways, some predictable, and some to be discovered soon. Lightning strikes begin the fleeting packets of ionized energy, oceans of electrons and a sky of plasma gas that feed the Ball Lightning. The column of energy from the lightning strike is like a baby bottle, so full of constituents of energy that the carbon and silica balls feed freely. These bucky balls are so formidable that by snapping their mouth s shut around anything, the atomic cage is now a warden. Buckyballs, easily recognized by science, form the body of Ball lightning. Some of the carbon has condensed into the well known C60, others are smaller or bigger. The granddaddy balls, as the Russians discovered, are hyper fullerenes. Magnificent carbon cages capable of containing a great deal of energy, and now as we know, an assortment of metallic magic. It may be that a few of these have captured the essence of the Ball lightning s appearance. Its hair color if you like. Shimmering with red, hints of orange and yellow, all oscillating within the energy of ball lightning. Perhaps a little sulfur is added to the mix for good measure, and we see some color burning along with silica. Pathology for Ball lightning, when we create them in the lab, would be interesting. Each carbon bucky ball, containing potential electrical energy, goes into static capacitance. Imagine this carbon capacitor floating in the air like cotton candy. Like the lightest of aero gels made from glass, it floats like a feather, and so does ball lightning. The difference for a floating Ball lightning, beyond that of floating aero gel glass, is its static potential. This will be in the millions of volts. I coined the term "Aero Fullerene" to try and describe the material of a ball lightning Ball lightning. With some experimenting on this new material, it may lead us to delivering artificial Ball Lightning in a lab. More about that later. The ability of buckyballs, fullerenes, fullerides or C60 variations, is the secret to holding energy within the Ball lightning. Ball lightning s contain their power like the fluffiest battery you could imagine. They could not do it without the ability of the fullerene to hold electrons in their inner shells. Silica and carbon both exhibit the ability to form balls, while carbon can form bucky tubes. Perhaps with some tinkering in the lab we will soon find that Ball Lightning also contains bucky tubes with staggering dimensions, that also contain elements within the tube shape. Many interesting things could be discovered by the production of artificial Ball Lightning. More romantically, imagine ball lightning s bucky cells sticking together like water molecules. Its energy vibrating and oscillating to hundreds of its own tunes, conducted by the nature of the admix. Ball lightning demonstrates a myriad of frequency effects, from a hum working on air, to light waves and well beyond microwave. All of these effects, from explosive static discharge, to colors, can be explained by the affinity of physics I am writing about. Buckyballs spin very fast, but can also be slowed down. Slowing bucky balls down is like adding hair to the Ball lightning. Stick an interesting atom, to the structure of a carbon cage, and it relaxes a bit. This would be like dielectric paint made from buckminster fullerene, changing colors when the potential charge diminishes. Simple carbon cage structures, holding & electrons, plasma, potential ionic elements of metal, and vapors of sand and dirt, all stuck together. The birth of ball lightning, may in fact show us how to build better batteries and tell us how to nurse hydrogen into storage. A fluffy baby, weighing almost nothing, yet trillions of cage structured base cells, floating about on its own pond of electrostatic energy. An electrical capacitor floating in the air. It doesn t require a jacket to hold itself together, but sticks to itself like bits of velcro. Ball lightning sucks in millions of static volts, electrons locked up in the cells of the carbon. They stick to each other with the attraction of dissimilar poles. Positive carbon shells seeking negative energy, in an endless cluster of poles. Ball lightning is lighter than aerogels yet having a solid appearance. Each carbon ball, some bigger than others, can be described as a miniature battery of energy. Free floating yet seeking to bond to its attractive mate. Some carbon cages may contain a metal atom, a delinquent silica atom stuck within the cage structure, and each will lend an interesting new aspect to its appearance. The whole thing oscillating colorfully at frequencies we see. Some slow, some fast, the bullies disrupting the others spin away wildly when their gyrations are not tolerated by any attempt of choreography. Sparkles of red, shimmers of blue and white light. Some balls, momentarily without a dance partner spin madly through the soup at a hundred million cycles per second. Most want to mate with intimacy & the way a water molecule loves its identical self. When an Ball lightning is born in a lab, we could study its body. Each carbon cage, body cells if you like, can contain the energy of as few as three electrons, based on the width across the nucleus of the cage. Others such as hyper fullerene cages, have the potential of holding dozens of electrons, metal atoms or gas. Imagine a plasma gas swirling in the centers of some cages, and metallic elements shimmering along in others. There are dozens of interesting chapters to this story. Buckminster fullerene [C60] is being investigated for its excellent ability to hold electrons, as in a battery. The discerning and alarming fact with bucky ball batteries, used as capacitors if you like, is that while they retain immense voltage, they can discharge with the same ferocity as the lightning that gave it life. Witness s attest to how frightening the death of ball lightning can be, going out with an unexpected bang. A colicky ball lightning is another matter. It hisses and complains as it grows old. Its life being seconds to minutes, it is not above complaining loudly. These would be the ones that sizzle water up to boiling, and pull power boxes out of walls. The center of a carbon caged buckyball does not just hold electrons, but perhaps even a nice vacuum chamber full of plasma gas. it has two distinct energy states competing for the same space. The positive charge of the carbon cage, and the negative charge of its contents. Buckyballs are tough, capable of withstanding staggering impacts, and healing into diamond structures when intentionally broken or squeezed. All by itself, the prison is a formidable keeper. The negative charge inside one ball, with a few electrons, will be attracted not only to the walls of its own prison, a constant dance of vibrating energy trying to remain homeostatic, but to the walls of its neighbor. The strong force, over the short distance to its prison walls, wins the affection of its keeper, while over the long distance does not repel the like charge of its brothers and sisters. A careful balance of force and repulsion is played out, with the distance painted in angstroms. We can see the similarity of how hydrogen and oxygen stick together, and structured clusters of water act on each others affinity to be married. Buckyballs do the same when charged. Nature gives ball lightning short lives surrounded by some friendly factors, and other dangerous predators. A dangerous predator that to Ball Lightning is any potential grounding that may be skulking nearby. The Ball Lightning can carry millions of static volts, and lower potentials can sneak towards it, even attract it. The ball lightning is unaware that static capacitors should live in fear of grounding. Scary things that eat energy are just a way of saying that there is less of something there, the void, and so energy flows into it. The entropy that kills ball lightning is an immutable law of physics. If ball lightning happens along a power line, it will stay alive a little longer. It is potentially a static truth that the high charge of the electrical line becomes a kind of an energy source for the Ball Lightning. A good old corona discharge giving up an electron lunch. In summary, the birth of a lightning ball is created under ideal circumstance when lightning vaporizes carbon, present in anything organic, and often in the soil itself. The atomized carbon vapor rises up the path of the arc of the lightning and condenses into Buckminster fullerenes or commonly referred buckyballs. In the process of high voltage and ionizing radiation, sheets of carbon condense and curl about its own flat structure, into the buckyballs. The cages capture electrons, plasma and potentially a myriad of elements along with it. These balls are unbelievably tough and easily able to contain a rapidly charged and vast capacitance. An affinity of buckyballs is that they will stick together given the static opportunity. Buckyballs can even condense into crystal structures and exhibit unique characteristics science is only beginning to understand. Although there may be tens of trillions of buckyballs in a single ball lightning, the whole structure would be near weightless, even if it were 3 feet across. Electrostatic effects, not unlike pith balls, would allow them to move about. The known spin of buckyballs permits us to extrapolate that colors would be evident. The high capacitance gives us the electrical phenomenon of rapid noisy discharge, not unlike what is already demonstrated. HERE ARE A FEW THINGS TO PONDER The only really successful recreations of Ball Lightning involved high voltage and carbon emitters. Tesla is purported to have created Ball Lightning at will with high voltage, carbon emitters, and some frequency manipulation. There is no way of him knowing that carbon bucky balls played any role. Also, his lab would have been coated with C60 in every nook and cranny, from his many experiments, which always involved carbon based emitters. Bucky balls and other fullerene manufacture, including silica balls and metallofullerene involves high voltage, carbon emitters, vacuum, and condensation. Lightning strikes create a cathode which is beyond the power produced in a lab, creates a vacuum, atomized elements and expands all of the parameters of producing buckyballs in a lab. Metallofullerene is now manufactured by placing the metallic element into admix with carbon, then electrifying it at high voltage and condensing it. Not impossible for lightning. Lightning has the distinct advantage of thousands of daily strikes worldwide, giving it the opportunity to increase the odds of creating ball lightning conditions. Lightning seldom creates Ball Lightning at higher altitudes, mountain tops, because of the lack of carbon, whereas tree and ground strikes would be abundant sources of carbon, silica, minerals and metals. A lightning strike could virtually suck up several lb. of carbon and extraneous material in fractions of seconds, whereas labs may burn of fractions of grams to create bucky balls. Lightning may in fact produce carbon, silica, and cage like structures involving other elements of gas and plasma we are not even aware of yet. Thanks for listening. Any feedback would be nice, as good criticism either expands this story for me, or makes it a fairy tale. Either way, if I am wrong, ball lightning remains as amazing as it is amusing. It is not the object of conjecture to make anybody wrong but just as much an effort to be right The real objective is pondering the difference between the two Mick Lee Michael Lee Lethbridge AB Canada 1 403 328-5965 mdlee01 at shaw.ca ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Question on Lightning Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 17:33:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Steven, this link may be of help
 
 
I've found that both updraft speed and cloud top height (ie higher topped storms seem to produce more lightning) contribute to lightning frequency but as you say there are always exceptions.  Yesterday around Brisbane is a fairly good example - i chased 3 different storms late afternoon, all of which appeared reasonably strong, yet i didn't see one single bolt of lightning ... yet on other similar days with similar strength storms they've been much much more lightning active! Go figure
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Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 4:32 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Question on Lightning

What are the factors that contribute to the frequency of lightning within a Cumulonimbus cell?
I have seen large cb that produce little or no lightning. Is it to do with the velocity of the updraught?
I think the most rapidly forming cb are the most lightning active.  
Steven W
 
 
From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Theory on Ball Lightning?? Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 20:41:55 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Very in-depth stuff. Sorry about the short reply but I have heard (somewhere) that ball lightning has been seen to roll across the ground and into a room. The theory is good but a bit hard in places to fathom out. I'm no genius, but can it possibly happen. Not sure where I read it but apparently it passed through glass and "exploded" in a room. Wondering, and would love to see it, as would everyone I suppose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 5:46 PM Subject: aus-wx: Theory on Ball Lightning?? > Hi all, > > Below is a message sent to me by Michael Lee in regards to his theory on > ball lightning. I have had permission to forward it on for some comments > debate. Perhaps until he joins on (if he does), could you cc his e-mail > address mdlee at shaw.ca so he could receive your > comments and opinions > > This is out of my league I suppose. > > Jimmy Deguara > -------------------------------------------- > Greetings > I developed this theory of ball lightning while working on buckminster > fullerene years ago. Would you be so kind as go give me your opinion. > Thank you for your time > Michael Lee > Lethbridge AB > mdlee at shaw.ca > BALL LIGHTNING BY > > Michael Lee > > Carbon, ionized gas, metal atoms, vaporized rock and silica atoms. How do > these come together to form ball lightning? Two items play a major role. > Carbon and silica are reduced to atomic soot by lightning, and when they > condense they can form buckyball structures. I believe that this is the > basis of Ball Lightning phenomena. > > These round ball cage like structures have a unique ability to contain > hundreds of elements within the cage, and will also stick to each other. > Hey can capture atoms in the shell itself, which then means it can bond to > other shells, or form pearl like strings. > > The body of Ball lightning is formed in fractions of seconds, when the > conditions are right. Lightning strikes the ground and trillions of carbon > atoms and the admix of other components, rush into the plasma umbilical, > the vacuum of the lightning strike. Each carbon atom, not unlike a cell in > the Ball Lightning, rapidly wants to bond while condensing into a bigger > object, still to small to be seen with microscopy. An infinitely small seed > of ball lightning forms first, and like cells of an organ, start to make up > the body. > > Carbon sheets form from the burnt soot, first, hot and vibrating atoms, > then these sheets collapse by condensation into cages. These balls of > carbon wrap around the essential nature of Ball lightning. Each carbon > ball, of variable sizes and constituents, completes its condensation by > encapsulating the residue left behind by the lightning strike. Some carbon > cages capture bonded strings of silica, which go on burning. Some silica > forms into cage structures and may indeed capture carbon also. Other hyper > fullerenes capture each other, using shared atoms of the metals in the > vaporized dirt. A bi-polar soup of pulsing energy is hosted by carbon and > silica s innate ability to form soccer ball shapes. These shaped balls bond > to each other in many intricate ways, some predictable, and some to be > discovered soon. > > Lightning strikes begin the fleeting packets of ionized energy, oceans of > electrons and a sky of plasma gas that feed the Ball Lightning. The column > of energy from the lightning strike is like a baby bottle, so full of > constituents of energy that the carbon and silica balls feed freely. These > bucky balls are so formidable that by snapping their mouth s shut around > anything, the atomic cage is now a warden. > > Buckyballs, easily recognized by science, form the body of Ball lightning. > Some of the carbon has condensed into the well known C60, others are > smaller or bigger. The granddaddy balls, as the Russians discovered, are > hyper fullerenes. Magnificent carbon cages capable of containing a great > deal of energy, and now as we know, an assortment of metallic magic. It may > be that a few of these have captured the essence of the Ball lightning s > appearance. Its hair color if you like. Shimmering with red, hints of > orange and yellow, all oscillating within the energy of ball lightning. > Perhaps a little sulfur is added to the mix for good measure, and we see > some color burning along with silica. > > Pathology for Ball lightning, when we create them in the lab, would be > interesting. Each carbon bucky ball, containing potential electrical > energy, goes into static capacitance. Imagine this carbon capacitor > floating in the air like cotton candy. Like the lightest of aero gels made > from glass, it floats like a feather, and so does ball lightning. The > difference for a floating Ball lightning, beyond that of floating aero gel > glass, is its static potential. This will be in the millions of volts. I > coined the term "Aero Fullerene" to try and describe the material of a ball > lightning Ball lightning. With some experimenting on this new material, it > may lead us to delivering artificial Ball Lightning in a lab. More about > that later. > > The ability of buckyballs, fullerenes, fullerides or C60 variations, is the > secret to holding energy within the Ball lightning. Ball lightning s > contain their power like the fluffiest battery you could imagine. They > could not do it without the ability of the fullerene to hold electrons in > their inner shells. Silica and carbon both exhibit the ability to form > balls, while carbon can form bucky tubes. Perhaps with some tinkering in > the lab we will soon find that Ball Lightning also contains bucky tubes > with staggering dimensions, that also contain elements within the tube > shape. Many interesting things could be discovered by the production of > artificial Ball Lightning. > > More romantically, imagine ball lightning s bucky cells sticking together > like water molecules. Its energy vibrating and oscillating to hundreds of > its own tunes, conducted by the nature of the admix. Ball lightning > demonstrates a myriad of frequency effects, from a hum working on air, to > light waves and well beyond microwave. All of these effects, from explosive > static discharge, to colors, can be explained by the affinity of physics I > am writing about. > > Buckyballs spin very fast, but can also be slowed down. Slowing bucky balls > down is like adding hair to the Ball lightning. Stick an interesting atom, > to the structure of a carbon cage, and it relaxes a bit. This would be like > dielectric paint made from buckminster fullerene, changing colors when the > potential charge diminishes. > > Simple carbon cage structures, holding & electrons, plasma, potential ionic > elements of metal, and vapors of sand and dirt, all stuck together. The > birth of ball lightning, may in fact show us how to build better batteries > and tell us how to nurse hydrogen into storage. A fluffy baby, weighing > almost nothing, yet trillions of cage structured base cells, floating about > on its own pond of electrostatic energy. An electrical capacitor floating > in the air. It doesn t require a jacket to hold itself together, but sticks > to itself like bits of velcro. > > Ball lightning sucks in millions of static volts, electrons locked up in > the cells of the carbon. They stick to each other with the attraction of > dissimilar poles. Positive carbon shells seeking negative energy, in an > endless cluster of poles. Ball lightning is lighter than aerogels yet > having a solid appearance. > > Each carbon ball, some bigger than others, can be described as a miniature > battery of energy. Free floating yet seeking to bond to its attractive > mate. Some carbon cages may contain a metal atom, a delinquent silica atom > stuck within the cage structure, and each will lend an interesting new > aspect to its appearance. The whole thing oscillating colorfully at > frequencies we see. Some slow, some fast, the bullies disrupting the others > spin away wildly when their gyrations are not tolerated by any attempt of > choreography. Sparkles of red, shimmers of blue and white light. Some > balls, momentarily without a dance partner spin madly through the soup at a > hundred million cycles per second. Most want to mate with intimacy & the > way a water molecule loves its identical self. > > When an Ball lightning is born in a lab, we could study its body. Each > carbon cage, body cells if you like, can contain the energy of as few as > three electrons, based on the width across the nucleus of the cage. Others > such as hyper fullerene cages, have the potential of holding dozens of > electrons, metal atoms or gas. Imagine a plasma gas swirling in the centers > of some cages, and metallic elements shimmering along in others. There are > dozens of interesting chapters to this story. > > Buckminster fullerene [C60] is being investigated for its excellent ability > to hold electrons, as in a battery. The discerning and alarming fact with > bucky ball batteries, used as capacitors if you like, is that while they > retain immense voltage, they can discharge with the same ferocity as the > lightning that gave it life. Witness s attest to how frightening the death > of ball lightning can be, going out with an unexpected bang. A colicky ball > lightning is another matter. It hisses and complains as it grows old. Its > life being seconds to minutes, it is not above complaining loudly. These > would be the ones that sizzle water up to boiling, and pull power boxes out > of walls. > > The center of a carbon caged buckyball does not just hold electrons, but > perhaps even a nice vacuum chamber full of plasma gas. it has two distinct > energy states competing for the same space. The positive charge of the > carbon cage, and the negative charge of its contents. Buckyballs are tough, > capable of withstanding staggering impacts, and healing into diamond > structures when intentionally broken or squeezed. All by itself, the prison > is a formidable keeper. The negative charge inside one ball, with a few > electrons, will be attracted not only to the walls of its own prison, a > constant dance of vibrating energy trying to remain homeostatic, but to the > walls of its neighbor. The strong force, over the short distance to its > prison walls, wins the affection of its keeper, while over the long > distance does not repel the like charge of its brothers and sisters. A > careful balance of force and repulsion is played out, with the distance > painted in angstroms. We can see the similarity of how hydrogen and oxygen > stick together, and structured clusters of water act on each others > affinity to be married. Buckyballs do the same when charged. > > Nature gives ball lightning short lives surrounded by some friendly > factors, and other dangerous predators. A dangerous predator that to Ball > Lightning is any potential grounding that may be skulking nearby. The Ball > Lightning can carry millions of static volts, and lower potentials can > sneak towards it, even attract it. The ball lightning is unaware that > static capacitors should live in fear of grounding. Scary things that eat > energy are just a way of saying that there is less of something there, the > void, and so energy flows into it. The entropy that kills ball lightning is > an immutable law of physics. > > If ball lightning happens along a power line, it will stay alive a little > longer. It is potentially a static truth that the high charge of the > electrical line becomes a kind of an energy source for the Ball Lightning. > A good old corona discharge giving up an electron lunch. > > In summary, the birth of a lightning ball is created under ideal > circumstance when lightning vaporizes carbon, present in anything organic, > and often in the soil itself. The atomized carbon vapor rises up the path > of the arc of the lightning and condenses into Buckminster fullerenes or > commonly referred buckyballs. In the process of high voltage and ionizing > radiation, sheets of carbon condense and curl about its own flat structure, > into the buckyballs. The cages capture electrons, plasma and potentially a > myriad of elements along with it. These balls are unbelievably tough and > easily able to contain a rapidly charged and vast capacitance. An affinity > of buckyballs is that they will stick together given the static > opportunity. Buckyballs can even condense into crystal structures and > exhibit unique characteristics science is only beginning to understand. > Although there may be tens of trillions of buckyballs in a single ball > lightning, the whole structure would be near weightless, even if it were 3 > feet across. Electrostatic effects, not unlike pith balls, would allow them > to move about. The known spin of buckyballs permits us to extrapolate that > colors would be evident. The high capacitance gives us the electrical > phenomenon of rapid noisy discharge, not unlike what is already demonstrated. > HERE ARE A FEW THINGS TO PONDER > The only really successful recreations of Ball Lightning involved high > voltage and carbon emitters. > > Tesla is purported to have created Ball Lightning at will with high > voltage, carbon emitters, and some frequency manipulation. There is no way > of him knowing that carbon bucky balls played any role. Also, his lab would > have been coated with C60 in every nook and cranny, from his many > experiments, which always involved carbon based emitters. > > Bucky balls and other fullerene manufacture, including silica balls and > metallofullerene involves high voltage, carbon emitters, vacuum, and > condensation. > Lightning strikes create a cathode which is beyond the power produced in a > lab, creates a vacuum, atomized elements and expands all of the parameters > of producing buckyballs in a lab. > > Metallofullerene is now manufactured by placing the metallic element into > admix with carbon, then electrifying it at high voltage and condensing it. > Not impossible for lightning. > > Lightning has the distinct advantage of thousands of daily strikes > worldwide, giving it the opportunity to increase the odds of creating ball > lightning conditions. > > Lightning seldom creates Ball Lightning at higher altitudes, mountain tops, > because of the lack of carbon, whereas tree and ground strikes would be > abundant sources of carbon, silica, minerals and metals. > > A lightning strike could virtually suck up several lb. of carbon and > extraneous material in fractions of seconds, whereas labs may burn of > fractions of grams to create bucky balls. > > Lightning may in fact produce carbon, silica, and cage like structures > involving other elements of gas and plasma we are not even aware of yet. > > > > > > > > > Thanks for listening. Any feedback would be nice, as good criticism either > expands this story for me, or makes it a fairy tale. Either way, if I am > wrong, ball lightning remains as amazing as it is amusing. > > It is not the object of conjecture to make anybody wrong > > but just as much an effort to be right > > The real objective is pondering the difference between the two > > Mick Lee > Michael Lee > > Lethbridge AB Canada > > 1 403 328-5965 > > mdlee01 at shaw.ca > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Theory on Ball Lightning?? Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 22:44:12 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com iv'e read and seen a lot on ball lightning but this thesis is a new one on me. ball lightning is being generated in labs but it is a hit and miss affair and trying to get a handle on it is like trying to carry a bag full of live eels without the bag. is this thesis written as theory or fact ? it would also be interesting to know it's definative source. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bussy To: Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:11 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Theory on Ball Lightning?? > Very in-depth stuff. Sorry about the short reply but I have heard > (somewhere) that ball lightning has been seen to roll across the ground and > into a room. The theory is good but a bit hard in places to fathom out. I'm > no genius, but can it possibly happen. Not sure where I read it but > apparently it passed through glass and "exploded" in a room. > Wondering, and would love to see it, as would everyone I suppose > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jimmy Deguara" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 5:46 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Theory on Ball Lightning?? > > > > Hi all, > > > > Below is a message sent to me by Michael Lee in regards to his theory on > > ball lightning. I have had permission to forward it on for some comments > > debate. Perhaps until he joins on (if he does), could you cc his e-mail > > address mdlee at shaw.ca so he could receive your > > comments and opinions > > > > This is out of my league I suppose. > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > -------------------------------------------- > > Greetings > > I developed this theory of ball lightning while working on > buckminster > > fullerene years ago. Would you be so kind as go give me your opinion. > > Thank you for your time > > Michael Lee > > Lethbridge AB > > mdlee at shaw.ca > > BALL LIGHTNING BY > > > > Michael Lee > > > > Carbon, ionized gas, metal atoms, vaporized rock and silica atoms. How do > > these come together to form ball lightning? Two items play a major role. > > Carbon and silica are reduced to atomic soot by lightning, and when they > > condense they can form buckyball structures. I believe that this is the > > basis of Ball Lightning phenomena. > > > > These round ball cage like structures have a unique ability to contain > > hundreds of elements within the cage, and will also stick to each other. > > Hey can capture atoms in the shell itself, which then means it can bond to > > other shells, or form pearl like strings. > > > > The body of Ball lightning is formed in fractions of seconds, when the > > conditions are right. Lightning strikes the ground and trillions of carbon > > atoms and the admix of other components, rush into the plasma umbilical, > > the vacuum of the lightning strike. Each carbon atom, not unlike a cell in > > the Ball Lightning, rapidly wants to bond while condensing into a bigger > > object, still to small to be seen with microscopy. An infinitely small > seed > > of ball lightning forms first, and like cells of an organ, start to make > up > > the body. > > > > Carbon sheets form from the burnt soot, first, hot and vibrating atoms, > > then these sheets collapse by condensation into cages. These balls of > > carbon wrap around the essential nature of Ball lightning. Each carbon > > ball, of variable sizes and constituents, completes its condensation by > > encapsulating the residue left behind by the lightning strike. Some carbon > > cages capture bonded strings of silica, which go on burning. Some silica > > forms into cage structures and may indeed capture carbon also. Other hyper > > fullerenes capture each other, using shared atoms of the metals in the > > vaporized dirt. A bi-polar soup of pulsing energy is hosted by carbon and > > silica s innate ability to form soccer ball shapes. These shaped balls > bond > > to each other in many intricate ways, some predictable, and some to be > > discovered soon. > > > > Lightning strikes begin the fleeting packets of ionized energy, oceans of > > electrons and a sky of plasma gas that feed the Ball Lightning. The column > > of energy from the lightning strike is like a baby bottle, so full of > > constituents of energy that the carbon and silica balls feed freely. These > > bucky balls are so formidable that by snapping their mouth s shut around > > anything, the atomic cage is now a warden. > > > > Buckyballs, easily recognized by science, form the body of Ball lightning. > > Some of the carbon has condensed into the well known C60, others are > > smaller or bigger. The granddaddy balls, as the Russians discovered, are > > hyper fullerenes. Magnificent carbon cages capable of containing a great > > deal of energy, and now as we know, an assortment of metallic magic. It > may > > be that a few of these have captured the essence of the Ball lightning s > > appearance. Its hair color if you like. Shimmering with red, hints of > > orange and yellow, all oscillating within the energy of ball lightning. > > Perhaps a little sulfur is added to the mix for good measure, and we see > > some color burning along with silica. > > > > Pathology for Ball lightning, when we create them in the lab, would be > > interesting. Each carbon bucky ball, containing potential electrical > > energy, goes into static capacitance. Imagine this carbon capacitor > > floating in the air like cotton candy. Like the lightest of aero gels made > > from glass, it floats like a feather, and so does ball lightning. The > > difference for a floating Ball lightning, beyond that of floating aero gel > > glass, is its static potential. This will be in the millions of volts. I > > coined the term "Aero Fullerene" to try and describe the material of a > ball > > lightning Ball lightning. With some experimenting on this new material, it > > may lead us to delivering artificial Ball Lightning in a lab. More about > > that later. > > > > The ability of buckyballs, fullerenes, fullerides or C60 variations, is > the > > secret to holding energy within the Ball lightning. Ball lightning s > > contain their power like the fluffiest battery you could imagine. They > > could not do it without the ability of the fullerene to hold electrons in > > their inner shells. Silica and carbon both exhibit the ability to form > > balls, while carbon can form bucky tubes. Perhaps with some tinkering in > > the lab we will soon find that Ball Lightning also contains bucky tubes > > with staggering dimensions, that also contain elements within the tube > > shape. Many interesting things could be discovered by the production of > > artificial Ball Lightning. > > > > More romantically, imagine ball lightning s bucky cells sticking together > > like water molecules. Its energy vibrating and oscillating to hundreds of > > its own tunes, conducted by the nature of the admix. Ball lightning > > demonstrates a myriad of frequency effects, from a hum working on air, to > > light waves and well beyond microwave. All of these effects, from > explosive > > static discharge, to colors, can be explained by the affinity of physics I > > am writing about. > > > > Buckyballs spin very fast, but can also be slowed down. Slowing bucky > balls > > down is like adding hair to the Ball lightning. Stick an interesting atom, > > to the structure of a carbon cage, and it relaxes a bit. This would be > like > > dielectric paint made from buckminster fullerene, changing colors when the > > potential charge diminishes. > > > > Simple carbon cage structures, holding & electrons, plasma, potential > ionic > > elements of metal, and vapors of sand and dirt, all stuck together. The > > birth of ball lightning, may in fact show us how to build better batteries > > and tell us how to nurse hydrogen into storage. A fluffy baby, weighing > > almost nothing, yet trillions of cage structured base cells, floating > about > > on its own pond of electrostatic energy. An electrical capacitor floating > > in the air. It doesn t require a jacket to hold itself together, but > sticks > > to itself like bits of velcro. > > > > Ball lightning sucks in millions of static volts, electrons locked up in > > the cells of the carbon. They stick to each other with the attraction of > > dissimilar poles. Positive carbon shells seeking negative energy, in an > > endless cluster of poles. Ball lightning is lighter than aerogels yet > > having a solid appearance. > > > > Each carbon ball, some bigger than others, can be described as a miniature > > battery of energy. Free floating yet seeking to bond to its attractive > > mate. Some carbon cages may contain a metal atom, a delinquent silica atom > > stuck within the cage structure, and each will lend an interesting new > > aspect to its appearance. The whole thing oscillating colorfully at > > frequencies we see. Some slow, some fast, the bullies disrupting the > others > > spin away wildly when their gyrations are not tolerated by any attempt of > > choreography. Sparkles of red, shimmers of blue and white light. Some > > balls, momentarily without a dance partner spin madly through the soup at > a > > hundred million cycles per second. Most want to mate with intimacy & the > > way a water molecule loves its identical self. > > > > When an Ball lightning is born in a lab, we could study its body. Each > > carbon cage, body cells if you like, can contain the energy of as few as > > three electrons, based on the width across the nucleus of the cage. Others > > such as hyper fullerene cages, have the potential of holding dozens of > > electrons, metal atoms or gas. Imagine a plasma gas swirling in the > centers > > of some cages, and metallic elements shimmering along in others. There are > > dozens of interesting chapters to this story. > > > > Buckminster fullerene [C60] is being investigated for its excellent > ability > > to hold electrons, as in a battery. The discerning and alarming fact with > > bucky ball batteries, used as capacitors if you like, is that while they > > retain immense voltage, they can discharge with the same ferocity as the > > lightning that gave it life. Witness s attest to how frightening the death > > of ball lightning can be, going out with an unexpected bang. A colicky > ball > > lightning is another matter. It hisses and complains as it grows old. Its > > life being seconds to minutes, it is not above complaining loudly. These > > would be the ones that sizzle water up to boiling, and pull power boxes > out > > of walls. > > > > The center of a carbon caged buckyball does not just hold electrons, but > > perhaps even a nice vacuum chamber full of plasma gas. it has two distinct > > energy states competing for the same space. The positive charge of the > > carbon cage, and the negative charge of its contents. Buckyballs are > tough, > > capable of withstanding staggering impacts, and healing into diamond > > structures when intentionally broken or squeezed. All by itself, the > prison > > is a formidable keeper. The negative charge inside one ball, with a few > > electrons, will be attracted not only to the walls of its own prison, a > > constant dance of vibrating energy trying to remain homeostatic, but to > the > > walls of its neighbor. The strong force, over the short distance to its > > prison walls, wins the affection of its keeper, while over the long > > distance does not repel the like charge of its brothers and sisters. A > > careful balance of force and repulsion is played out, with the distance > > painted in angstroms. We can see the similarity of how hydrogen and oxygen > > stick together, and structured clusters of water act on each others > > affinity to be married. Buckyballs do the same when charged. > > > > Nature gives ball lightning short lives surrounded by some friendly > > factors, and other dangerous predators. A dangerous predator that to Ball > > Lightning is any potential grounding that may be skulking nearby. The Ball > > Lightning can carry millions of static volts, and lower potentials can > > sneak towards it, even attract it. The ball lightning is unaware that > > static capacitors should live in fear of grounding. Scary things that eat > > energy are just a way of saying that there is less of something there, the > > void, and so energy flows into it. The entropy that kills ball lightning > is > > an immutable law of physics. > > > > If ball lightning happens along a power line, it will stay alive a little > > longer. It is potentially a static truth that the high charge of the > > electrical line becomes a kind of an energy source for the Ball Lightning. > > A good old corona discharge giving up an electron lunch. > > > > In summary, the birth of a lightning ball is created under ideal > > circumstance when lightning vaporizes carbon, present in anything organic, > > and often in the soil itself. The atomized carbon vapor rises up the path > > of the arc of the lightning and condenses into Buckminster fullerenes or > > commonly referred buckyballs. In the process of high voltage and ionizing > > radiation, sheets of carbon condense and curl about its own flat > structure, > > into the buckyballs. The cages capture electrons, plasma and potentially a > > myriad of elements along with it. These balls are unbelievably tough and > > easily able to contain a rapidly charged and vast capacitance. An affinity > > of buckyballs is that they will stick together given the static > > opportunity. Buckyballs can even condense into crystal structures and > > exhibit unique characteristics science is only beginning to understand. > > Although there may be tens of trillions of buckyballs in a single ball > > lightning, the whole structure would be near weightless, even if it were 3 > > feet across. Electrostatic effects, not unlike pith balls, would allow > them > > to move about. The known spin of buckyballs permits us to extrapolate that > > colors would be evident. The high capacitance gives us the electrical > > phenomenon of rapid noisy discharge, not unlike what is already > demonstrated. > > HERE ARE A FEW THINGS TO PONDER > > The only really successful recreations of Ball Lightning involved high > > voltage and carbon emitters. > > > > Tesla is purported to have created Ball Lightning at will with high > > voltage, carbon emitters, and some frequency manipulation. There is no way > > of him knowing that carbon bucky balls played any role. Also, his lab > would > > have been coated with C60 in every nook and cranny, from his many > > experiments, which always involved carbon based emitters. > > > > Bucky balls and other fullerene manufacture, including silica balls and > > metallofullerene involves high voltage, carbon emitters, vacuum, and > > condensation. > > Lightning strikes create a cathode which is beyond the power produced in a > > lab, creates a vacuum, atomized elements and expands all of the parameters > > of producing buckyballs in a lab. > > > > Metallofullerene is now manufactured by placing the metallic element into > > admix with carbon, then electrifying it at high voltage and condensing it. > > Not impossible for lightning. > > > > Lightning has the distinct advantage of thousands of daily strikes > > worldwide, giving it the opportunity to increase the odds of creating ball > > lightning conditions. > > > > Lightning seldom creates Ball Lightning at higher altitudes, mountain > tops, > > because of the lack of carbon, whereas tree and ground strikes would be > > abundant sources of carbon, silica, minerals and metals. > > > > A lightning strike could virtually suck up several lb. of carbon and > > extraneous material in fractions of seconds, whereas labs may burn of > > fractions of grams to create bucky balls. > > > > Lightning may in fact produce carbon, silica, and cage like structures > > involving other elements of gas and plasma we are not even aware of yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for listening. Any feedback would be nice, as good criticism either > > expands this story for me, or makes it a fairy tale. Either way, if I am > > wrong, ball lightning remains as amazing as it is amusing. > > > > It is not the object of conjecture to make anybody wrong > > > > but just as much an effort to be right > > > > The real objective is pondering the difference between the two > > > > Mick Lee > > Michael Lee > > > > Lethbridge AB Canada > > > > 1 403 328-5965 > > > > mdlee01 at shaw.ca > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 23:26:13 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: 2 chase accounts Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A couple of recent chase accounts. http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2002/February16.htm <-- supercell in sydney 2 weeks ago with large wall cloud. Damage pics to follow soon. http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2002/February2.htm <-- Chase to Gunnedah/Tamworth. http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2002/February8.htm <-- Feb 8 supercells and wall clouds for those that didnt see it. Not a bad month.. also that rain event earlier in the month... been pretty good :) Matthew Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 22:55:09 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 2 chase accounts Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow - fantastic reports!!! Loved the photos! The wallcloud is absolutely amazing and the sunset Cb has awesome colours!!! AC Matthew Smith wrote: > > A couple of recent chase accounts. > > http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2002/February16.htm <-- supercell in > sydney 2 weeks ago with large wall cloud. Damage pics to follow soon. > http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2002/February2.htm <-- Chase to > Gunnedah/Tamworth. > http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2002/February8.htm <-- Feb 8 > supercells and wall clouds for those that didnt see it. > Not a bad month.. also that rain event earlier in the month... been > pretty good :) > > Matthew Smith > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 21:26:59 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com;mdlee at shaw.ca;;; Subject: Re: aus-wx: Theory on Ball Lightning?? X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I really cannot comment on the theory presented here, but I can add my observations of ball lightning over the years. I have seen it several times after trees have been struck, but unfortunately these were all at such a distance as to make accurate observations difficult. Years ago, however I was repairing a computer when lightning struck the metal grille on the outside of a window immediately behind the monitor. A ball lightning formed outside and passed through the metal grille and the glass window as if neither of them were there. It passed between me and my client who were seated one each side of the computer and we both turned around in time to see it hit the refrigerator behind us. It bounced off the fridge as a balloon would bounce if that balloon were filled with a mixture of helium and air to make it keep its height without either rising or falling. It passed across the kitchen again and left the room through either the other closed window or through a stone wall after which it was visible through the window outside of the house. We are not sure whether it went through the window or the wall adjacent to the window. My client thought the former, I thought the latter. We were both almost against the same wall about three metres away from where it made its exit. During its trip through the room our hair stood on end, but afterwards we couldn't decide whether this was an electrical effect or because of the extreme fear we both felt at the time. We investigated the fridge where it had hit and noticed a brown scorch mark of some sort which was later able to be washed off so it must have been some sort of a deposit rather than an actual burn. The sound made was a kind of electrical hum at a higher frequency than one would experience from the 50 Hz AC that was in the household electrical circuits. We both had a sense of having been in a place of immense danger and yet neither of us was actually hurt in any way. We both realised that we had felt very fearful of it yet at the same time very interested in trying to understand what was going on. So there's my experience which may or may not throw a bit of light on the discussion. My questions are: 1. How could it pass through a metal grille and a closed glass window? 2. If it did pass through the stone wall, as it appeared from my point of view, how is it possible that it could do so? It seems to be beyond my grasp of physical science. I should mention that this started with an almighty great and extremely close lightning strike that had already almost scared the wits out of both of us. The other fellow seriously asked whether we had been seeing some sort of hallucination, but as our reconstruction after the event tied together perfectly from both of our points of view, I think that hallucination was unlikely. And he did have to clean the mark off his fridge! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Bussy" To: Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 20:41:55 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Theory on Ball Lightning?? > Very in-depth stuff. Sorry about the short reply but I have heard > (somewhere) that ball lightning has been seen to roll across the ground > and > into a room. The theory is good but a bit hard in places to fathom out. > I'm > no genius, but can it possibly happen. Not sure where I read it but > apparently it passed through glass and "exploded" in a room. > Wondering, and would love to see it, as would everyone I suppose > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jimmy Deguara" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 5:46 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Theory on Ball Lightning?? > > > > Hi all, > > > > Below is a message sent to me by Michael Lee in regards to his theory > on > > ball lightning. I have had permission to forward it on for some > comments > > debate. Perhaps until he joins on (if he does), could you cc his > e-mail > > address mdlee at shaw.ca so he could receive your > > comments and opinions > > [snip] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp2.ihug.co.nz: Host p216-nas6.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.216.216] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:47:50 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Mike Lee's theory on ball lightning looks extremely specialised. An interesting phenomena though.
Has any one observed lightning breaking up into segments before it disappears.
I have observed this in the polluted atmosphere of the United Kingdom. I have never seen it in NZ.
A couple of years ago i saw what looked like a ball of flame come off the top of a building in Auckland as it was
hit by lightning. I assumed this was burning debris. The flame only lasted a couple of seconds.
Cheers
Steven W
   
 
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 07:23:18 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon Mitag X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane and all, It looks set to become Super Typhoon Mitag within a couple of days, if JTWC are correct. For those who have trouble cutting and pasting that long URL, there is a link to it on my site at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm where other appropriate links shall be added as the storm continues. The different models are predicting very different tracks at the moment, some curving it sharply North towards Japan, others keeping it West towards Luzon. If it does head for Luzon, we may see it here in about a week's time. However as that path would be very rare for this time of year, I suspect we will see it head for Taiwan or Japan. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 14:49:07 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon Mitag > Afternoon all, > > The Guam cyclone page has some local details re Typhoon Mitag - the > very > long URL is the Local Statement - Storm 1 > http://205.156.54.206/pr/guam/cyclone.html > > http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/fmtbltn.pl?file=hurricane_products/west > e > rn_pacific/storm_1/local_stmt.txt&title=Tropical+Cyclone%3CBR%3ELocal+S > t > atement&maxage=006&alturl=http://www.nws.noaa.gov/pr/guam/nodata.html > > Jane > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Summer summary (fwd)> Content-Length: 4945 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 10:52:12 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > I'm sure you've been waiting for this.... > > > > Averaged over Australia as a whole, summer was the 25th wettest in 111 > years > > of record. > > > > > Port Hedland Max 35.1 (-1.2; 4th lowest, record 34.7 1950-51) > > MIn 24.6 (-0.3) > > Rain 35.6 (20%, decile 2) > > > > > Hello Blair > Is decile 2 lowest 20%, decile 9 highest 10%? > Do you know a url if you do not have the time to explain? > > regards > > Chas > Strahan Tasmania Decile 2 - in lowest 20% but not in lowest 10% Decile 9 - in lowest 90% but not in lowest 80% (or equivalently, in highest 20% but not in highest 10%) Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 07:43:52 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If the ball of flame fell towards the ground like like any other falling object then it was burning debris, if it kind of "floated" along through the air like a balloon, then it was probably ball lightning. I have seen a couple of flame-coloured ball lightnings in the distance over the years. Sometimes ball lightning moves rapidly, sometimes very slowly. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Steven Williams" To: Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:47:50 +1300 Subject: aus-wx: Lightning > Mike Lee's theory on ball lightning looks extremely specialised. An > interesting phenomena though. > Has any one observed lightning breaking up into segments before it > disappears. > I have observed this in the polluted atmosphere of the United Kingdom. > I have never seen it in NZ. > A couple of years ago i saw what looked like a ball of flame come off > the top of a building in Auckland as it was > hit by lightning. I assumed this was burning debris. The flame only > lasted a couple of seconds. > Cheers > Steven W > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon & TS Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:50:45 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Afternoon all, Mitag has been estimated by JTWC at 944hPa!! (but I can't find confirmation anywhere else of this pressure) ..... and #93P (the tropically disturbed area SW of the Solomon Islands) is being monitored by the Joint Typhoon Warning Centre http://kauai.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_home Meanwhile, in Melbourne we have passing drizzle.......... Thanks for organising that link Phil. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 10:23 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon Mitag > Hi Jane and all, > It looks set to become Super Typhoon Mitag within a couple of days, if > JTWC are correct. > For those who have trouble cutting and pasting that long URL, there is a > link to it on my site at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm where > other appropriate links shall be added as the storm continues. > The different models are predicting very different tracks at the moment, > some curving it sharply North towards Japan, others keeping it West > towards Luzon. > If it does head for Luzon, we may see it here in about a week's time. > However as that path would be very rare for this time of year, I suspect > we will see it head for Taiwan or Japan. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Jane ONeill" > To: "Aussie-wx" > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 14:49:07 +1100 > Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon Mitag > > > Afternoon all, > > > > The Guam cyclone page has some local details re Typhoon Mitag - the > > very > > long URL is the Local Statement - Storm 1 > > http://205.156.54.206/pr/guam/cyclone.html > > > > http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/fmtbltn.pl?file=hurricane_products/west > > e > > rn_pacific/storm_1/local_stmt.txt&title=Tropical+Cyclone%3CBR%3ELocal+S > > t > > atement&maxage=006&alturl=http://www.nws.noaa.gov/pr/guam/nodata.html > > > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > ASWA - Victoria > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Storm Spotting in Victoria Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:58:58 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Victorians (in particular) If you aren't already a storm spotter for the BoM in Victoria and would like to offer your services, there's now a link on the Melbourne Stormchasers page at http://www.stormchasers.au.com Click on the Bureau of Meteorology logo & you will be able to send an email direct to the Severe Weather section in Victoria, who would be delighted to join you up or answer any questions you might have. You can also email me if you have any queries. I've also included a link below the BoM logo to the Storm Spotters Handbook, which is well worth a read. Jane PS: a number of new reports have gone up from our 'overactive' storm month of February -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: aus-wx: Coral Sea trough/low area Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:30:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2002 02:29:51.0908 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C2F8640:01C1C25B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all
 
Looks like this one is elongating a bit too much for development into a true TC. That northern cluster of storms needs to break away and soon.
 
Maybe a hybrid system is developing out of the southern cloud cluster ??? This may swing toward the south west and then west if that high and ridge gets a wriggle on. (ie a scenario similar to Sub Tropical Storm "Donald Duck" last year). If the ridge doesn't get itself in place  soon and form a block, I suspect that this system will be lost toward the SE at an accelerating rate taking away all that tropical moisture with it (just like all the systems have been doing consistently for a long time now).
 
Still, we have had some useful rain here in my part of SE QLD over the past 24 hrs (but we need much much more).
 
Regards
Simon
 
 
 
 
From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Jerilderie storm Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 14:25:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Afternoon all, Newspaper article (just a bit over the top in the best journalistic sense!!) from the Border Mail with the leading article headlined 'TOWN BLOWN OFF THE MAP' http://www.stormchasers.au.com/20_02_02jer.htm Many thanks to Ross Buscall for sending me the newspaper. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp4.ihug.co.nz: Host p63-nas6.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.216.63] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea trough/low area Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:29:18 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Looks like this tropical disturbance is destined for NZ or beyond.(late week) The high over Vic will help steer it out to sea
away from Qld. If it does come onto NZ it would be nice if it moved down our west coast so we get the
tropical air and interesting rainfall in Auckland. 
Steven W 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 3:30 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Coral Sea trough/low area

Hi all
 
Looks like this one is elongating a bit too much for development into a true TC. That northern cluster of storms needs to break away and soon.
 
Maybe a hybrid system is developing out of the southern cloud cluster ??? This may swing toward the south west and then west if that high and ridge gets a wriggle on. (ie a scenario similar to Sub Tropical Storm "Donald Duck" last year). If the ridge doesn't get itself in place  soon and form a block, I suspect that this system will be lost toward the SE at an accelerating rate taking away all that tropical moisture with it (just like all the systems have been doing consistently for a long time now).
 
Still, we have had some useful rain here in my part of SE QLD over the past 24 hrs (but we need much much more).
 
Regards
Simon
 
 
 
 
From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Feb 20th Victorian images Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 17:36:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Have put up 4 panoramas courtesy of Andrew McDonald from the 7th February taken from between Ballarat & Bacchus Marsh. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/07_02_02am.htm More stunning photography from one of those talented Victorians!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Potential Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:03:54 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Just another quick look at the Coral Sea development.... And it seems to be better organized then what it was last week.. I think its got all the potential for cyclone development over the next few days, so I might be worth keeping an eye out for it. Regards Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Weather Man" To: Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:16 PM Subject: aus-wx: TC Potential > Hi all, > > Just a quick note on the weather for QLD and a week tropical disturbance > seems to be around the solomon islands.. > It might have the potential to develop into a TC. > Jason > º¿º > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 23:09:38 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: 2 chase accounts Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great shots and report. It looks as though Sydney has been the place to be for severe summer events over the last 3 months JohnGaul NZ Thunderstorm Society At 22:55 2/03/02 +1000, you wrote: >Wow - fantastic reports!!! Loved the photos! The wallcloud is >absolutely amazing and the sunset Cb has awesome colours!!! > >AC >Matthew Smith wrote: >> >> A couple of recent chase accounts. >> >> http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2002/February16.htm <-- supercell in >> sydney 2 weeks ago with large wall cloud. Damage pics to follow soon. >> http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2002/February2.htm <-- Chase to >> Gunnedah/Tamworth. >> http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2002/February8.htm <-- Feb 8 >> supercells and wall clouds for those that didnt see it. >> Not a bad month.. also that rain event earlier in the month... been >> pretty good :) >> >> Matthew Smith >> >-- >Anthony Cornelius >Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the >Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) >(07) 3390 4812 >http://www.severeweather.asn.au ---------------------------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 23:48:49 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea trough/low area Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 19:29 3/03/02 +1300, you wrote: Looks like this tropical disturbance is destined for NZ or beyond.(late week) The high over Vic will help steer it out to sea away from Qld. If it does come onto NZ it would be nice if it moved down our west coast so we get the tropical air and interesting rainfall in Auckland. Steven W Yes I am looking forward to see what this tropical disturbance may do. whether it will fizz out or continue to move in a track towards NZ and hopefully head into the Tasman Sea depending on the guidance/hinderance of the anticyclones. Northland/Auckland/BOP could be in for a soak or humid conditions, Christchurch cloudy boring annoying easterlies ???!!!! By the way we are missing out on possible thunder activity here (ChCh/Canterbury)over the last few days. The current low pressure system to the south of the South Island is moving in a TOOOOOOOOOO much of an easterly direction. Tomorrow a weak frontal passage which could bring the chance of a 'clap or two' will only just clip coasts and give us bugger all in anything interesting weather-wise. An old man southerly should prevail for the next few day before the anticyclone engosses us ! After the events of late December/early January, the weather has been quite uneventful here! JohnGaul NZ Thunderstorm Society +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Some Gilmore Stats for February so far. A very wet month and max well below average . Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 21:38:14 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blair , Sorry its taken me some time to reply .We are 660metres above sea level at our site.I checked our figures and we recorded 29.9 degrees on the 2nd.. Our Bonython site recorded 32.0 degrees but they are lower about 590 metres. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blair Trewin" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:03 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Some Gilmore Stats for February so far. A very wet month and max well below average . > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C1BF6E.549456C0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > I have just put the Gilmore A.C.T. site met data into the computor for = > > February and some interesting facts came up. > > Rainfall so far 160.1 mm on 12 days .The most in February since I = > > started in 1983. Heaviest 24 hours total 65.5mm on 5th a new record!=20 > > Average Min Temp. 12.8 (norm. 12.9) Average Max Temp 23.3 (norm. 26.2). = > > So average nights and cooler than average days due to cloud cover being = > > much above average. A very cool spell from 4th to 6th Max were 4th = > > 14.7, 5th 14.5, 6th 15.2. We have had no days above 30 degrees! This is = > > the first time since I started recording the weather in Canberra in = > > 1983! With only today and tomorrow to go I don't think these figures = > > will change much. All details will be published in the Chronicle next = > > week. > > What's your elevation, Gavin? I ask because I'm quite surprised > that you didn't make 30 on the 2nd; the airport was 32 and I wouldn't > expect that large a difference in a maximum temperature unless you're > getting close to the 700-metre mark (the airport is 560). > > Blair > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: Question on Lightning (fwd) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:20:09 +1100 (EDT) From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Steven Williams typed: > What are the factors that contribute to the frequency of lightning = > within a Cumulonimbus cell?=20 > I have seen large cb that produce little or no lightning. Is it to do = > with the velocity of the updraught? > I think the most rapidly forming cb are the most lightning active. =20 One hypothesis is that the lightning frequency of a storm depends on the downward flux of solid precipitation through the body of the storm times the upward flux of ice crystals into its anvil. Both fluxes increase with intial updraught strength. Support for this hypothesis comes (in part) from correlations between the number of optical lightning pulses (observed by a satellite-based Lightning Imaging Sensor (LIS)) and the microwave scattering signature of ice crystals (observed by the TRMM Microwave Imager (TMI)). Harald -- _________________________________________________________________________ Harald Richter ph: +61 3 9669 4501 Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre fax: +61 3 9669 4660 PO Box 1289K email: h.richter at bom.gov.au Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm _________________________________________________________________________ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aus Wx" Subject: aus-wx: Cjs on the ranges Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 15:18:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Afternoon all, Having a quick look at the soundings during a break (as you do), there has been significant moisture advection into the northeastern parts of Victoria. If you're curious, compare Wagga & Melbourne soundings to see the difference, and then ..........have a look at the Cj's along the ranges!!!!!! mmmmmmm......... Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 14:22:50 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon & TS X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Note that the Guam links have now been removed from http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm as Mitag has moved on. This afternoon I added links for PAGASA and Typhoon2000 both located in the Philippines. It's a bit early to say, but my hunch is that parts of the Philippines will really cop the lot in about three days. In a week it might even approach us here in HK. Time will tell. I have also added links copied from Carl's site giving various BoM warnings for the current Coral Sea Tropical Low which may or may not amount to much anytime soon. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:50:45 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon & TS > Afternoon all, > > Mitag has been estimated by JTWC at 944hPa!! (but I can't find > confirmation anywhere else of this pressure) > > ...... and #93P (the tropically disturbed area SW of the Solomon > Islands) > is being monitored by the Joint Typhoon Warning Centre > http://kauai.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_home > > Meanwhile, in Melbourne we have passing drizzle.......... > > Thanks for organising that link Phil. > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon Mitag > > > > Hi Jane and all, > > It looks set to become Super Typhoon Mitag within a couple of days, > if > > JTWC are correct. > > For those who have trouble cutting and pasting that long URL, there > is > a > > link to it on my site at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm where > > other appropriate links shall be added as the storm continues. > > The different models are predicting very different tracks at the > moment, > > some curving it sharply North towards Japan, others keeping it West > > towards Luzon. > > If it does head for Luzon, we may see it here in about a week's time. > > However as that path would be very rare for this time of year, I > suspect > > we will see it head for Taiwan or Japan. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Jane ONeill" > > To: "Aussie-wx" > > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 14:49:07 +1100 > > Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon Mitag > > > > > Afternoon all, > > > > > > The Guam cyclone page has some local details re Typhoon Mitag - the > > > very > > > long URL is the Local Statement - Storm 1 > > > http://205.156.54.206/pr/guam/cyclone.html > > > > > > > http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/fmtbltn.pl?file=hurricane_products/west > > > e > > > > rn_pacific/storm_1/local_stmt.txt&title=Tropical+Cyclone%3CBR%3ELocal+S > > > t > > > > atement&maxage=006&alturl=http://www.nws.noaa.gov/pr/guam/nodata.html > > > > > > Jane > > > -------------------------------- > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > > > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > > > ASWA - Victoria > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:22:09 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon & TS Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. For those that don't know, the URL for my page for links to current information for both Ty Mitag and the Coral Sea tropical low is: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm There is a wide angle colour satpic animation showing both systems at: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/imagescurrent/g5.trop.satpicloop.gif Carl. >Note that the Guam links have now been removed from >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm as Mitag has moved on. This >afternoon I added links for PAGASA and Typhoon2000 both located in the >Philippines. >It's a bit early to say, but my hunch is that parts of the Philippines >will really cop the lot in about three days. >In a week it might even approach us here in HK. >Time will tell. >I have also added links copied from Carl's site giving various BoM >warnings for the current Coral Sea Tropical Low which may or may not >amount to much anytime soon. >Phil ><>< > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk >Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: "Jane ONeill" >To: >Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:50:45 +1100 >Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon & TS > >> Afternoon all, >> >> Mitag has been estimated by JTWC at 944hPa!! (but I can't find >> confirmation anywhere else of this pressure) >> >> ...... and #93P (the tropically disturbed area SW of the Solomon >> Islands) >> is being monitored by the Joint Typhoon Warning Centre >> http://kauai.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_home >> >> Meanwhile, in Melbourne we have passing drizzle.......... >> >> Thanks for organising that link Phil. >> >> Jane >> >> -------------------------------- >> Jane ONeill - Melbourne >> cadence at stormchasers.au.com >> >> Melbourne Storm Chasers >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com >> >> ASWA - Victoria >> http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> -------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Phil Smith" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 10:23 AM >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon Mitag >> >> >> > Hi Jane and all, >> > It looks set to become Super Typhoon Mitag within a couple of days, >> if >> > JTWC are correct. >> > For those who have trouble cutting and pasting that long URL, there >> is >> a >> > link to it on my site at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm where >> > other appropriate links shall be added as the storm continues. >> > The different models are predicting very different tracks at the >> moment, >> > some curving it sharply North towards Japan, others keeping it West >> > towards Luzon. >> > If it does head for Luzon, we may see it here in about a week's time. >> > However as that path would be very rare for this time of year, I >> suspect >> > we will see it head for Taiwan or Japan. >> > >> > Phil >> > <>< >> > >> > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk >> > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk >> > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk >> > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: "Jane ONeill" >> > To: "Aussie-wx" >> > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 14:49:07 +1100 >> > Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon Mitag >> > >> > > Afternoon all, >> > > >> > > The Guam cyclone page has some local details re Typhoon Mitag - the >> > > very >> > > long URL is the Local Statement - Storm 1 >> > > http://205.156.54.206/pr/guam/cyclone.html >> > > >> > > >> http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/fmtbltn.pl?file=hurricane_products/west >> > > e >> > > >> rn_pacific/storm_1/local_stmt.txt&title=Tropical+Cyclone%3CBR%3ELocal+S >> > > t >> > > >> atement&maxage=006&alturl=http://www.nws.noaa.gov/pr/guam/nodata.html >> > > >> > > Jane >> > > -------------------------------- >> > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne >> > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com >> > > >> > > Melbourne Storm Chasers >> > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com >> > > >> > > ASWA - Victoria >> > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> > > -------------------------------- >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >> > > + >> > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> > > to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body >> of >> > > your >> > > message. >> > >> >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- >> > > - >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >> your >> > message. >> > >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- >> -- >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >> + >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >> your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- >> - > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm Weather-Ezine LR forecasting archives: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ezines/ezineindex.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: aus-wx: Web page comments Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:59:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Carl just on a quick note about your web page.. is it possible that you would be able to reduce the size of the images displayed... The reason for this is that its awfually slow on a 56k connection and even on broadband connection its still take some time to load. But apart from that i think that its a great web page.. as it has lots of usefull links. Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Smith" To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:22 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon & TS > Hi All. > > For those that don't know, the URL for my page for links to current > information for both Ty Mitag and the Coral Sea tropical low is: > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > > There is a wide angle colour satpic animation showing both systems at: > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/imagescurrent/g5.trop.satpicloop.gif > > Carl. > > >Note that the Guam links have now been removed from > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm as Mitag has moved on. This > >afternoon I added links for PAGASA and Typhoon2000 both located in the > >Philippines. > >It's a bit early to say, but my hunch is that parts of the Philippines > >will really cop the lot in about three days. > >In a week it might even approach us here in HK. > >Time will tell. > >I have also added links copied from Carl's site giving various BoM > >warnings for the current Coral Sea Tropical Low which may or may not > >amount to much anytime soon. > >Phil > ><>< > > > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > >Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: "Jane ONeill" > >To: > >Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:50:45 +1100 > >Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon & TS > > > >> Afternoon all, > >> > >> Mitag has been estimated by JTWC at 944hPa!! (but I can't find > >> confirmation anywhere else of this pressure) > >> > >> ...... and #93P (the tropically disturbed area SW of the Solomon > >> Islands) > >> is being monitored by the Joint Typhoon Warning Centre > >> http://kauai.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_home > >> > >> Meanwhile, in Melbourne we have passing drizzle.......... > >> > >> Thanks for organising that link Phil. > >> > >> Jane > >> > >> -------------------------------- > >> Jane ONeill - Melbourne > >> cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >> > >> Melbourne Storm Chasers > >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >> > >> ASWA - Victoria > >> http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >> -------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Phil Smith" > >> To: > >> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 10:23 AM > >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon Mitag > >> > >> > >> > Hi Jane and all, > >> > It looks set to become Super Typhoon Mitag within a couple of days, > >> if > >> > JTWC are correct. > >> > For those who have trouble cutting and pasting that long URL, there > >> is > >> a > >> > link to it on my site at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm where > >> > other appropriate links shall be added as the storm continues. > >> > The different models are predicting very different tracks at the > >> moment, > >> > some curving it sharply North towards Japan, others keeping it West > >> > towards Luzon. > >> > If it does head for Luzon, we may see it here in about a week's time. > >> > However as that path would be very rare for this time of year, I > >> suspect > >> > we will see it head for Taiwan or Japan. > >> > > >> > Phil > >> > <>< > >> > > >> > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > >> > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > >> > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > >> > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: "Jane ONeill" > >> > To: "Aussie-wx" > >> > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 14:49:07 +1100 > >> > Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon Mitag > >> > > >> > > Afternoon all, > >> > > > >> > > The Guam cyclone page has some local details re Typhoon Mitag - the > >> > > very > >> > > long URL is the Local Statement - Storm 1 > >> > > http://205.156.54.206/pr/guam/cyclone.html > >> > > > >> > > > >> http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/fmtbltn.pl?file=hurricane_products/west > >> > > e > >> > > > >> rn_pacific/storm_1/local_stmt.txt&title=Tropical+Cyclone%3CBR%3ELocal+S > >> > > t > >> > > > >> atement&maxage=006&alturl=http://www.nws.noaa.gov/pr/guam/nodata.html > >> > > > >> > > Jane > >> > > -------------------------------- > >> > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > >> > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >> > > > >> > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > >> > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >> > > > >> > > ASWA - Victoria > >> > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >> > > -------------------------------- > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > >> > > + > >> > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >> > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > >> of > >> > > your > >> > > message. > >> > > >> > >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > >> > > - > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >> to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >> your > >> > message. > >> > > >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > >> -- > >> > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > >> + > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >> to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >> your > >> message. > >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > >> - > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > Carl Smith. > Gold Coast. > Queensland. > Australia. > > Email: carls at qldnet.com.au > Current Tropical Cyclone information : > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm > Weather-Ezine LR forecasting archives: > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ezines/ezineindex.htm > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: aus-wx: Coral Sea Low Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:07:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2002 08:06:55.0976 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D152680:01C1C353] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all
 
24 hrs on and I am now about 50/50 either way on this developing into a TC. It has looked better organised today but if it continues to drift (or transfer centre) south south east fairly quickly it will not escape from the upper system. It will therefore have no real potential to develop under the more favourable upper conditions in the northern Coral Sea. Doesn't look as though the block from the high will sustain itself for long and even if it does the system looks like being beheaded unless it stalls its southward movement right about now.
 
Another 24 hrs should give a clearer picture on its fate I think.
 
 
Regards
Simon
From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon & TS Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 22:26:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, From the Phillipines Met Service - how confusing is this?? They've renamed Mitag into Basyang?????? Why?? SYNOPSIS: At 2 PM today, Typhoon Basyang was located at 720 kms east of Guiuan, Eastern Samar or at 960 kms east southeast of Legaspi City (11.2°N 132.5°E) with maximum sustained winds of 160 kph near the center and gustiness up to 195 kph. It is expected to move generally in a west northwest direction at 13 kph. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Smith" To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 6:22 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon & TS > Hi All. > > For those that don't know, the URL for my page for links to current > information for both Ty Mitag and the Coral Sea tropical low is: > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > > There is a wide angle colour satpic animation showing both systems at: > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/imagescurrent/g5.trop.satpicloop.gif > > Carl. > > >Note that the Guam links have now been removed from > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm as Mitag has moved on. This > >afternoon I added links for PAGASA and Typhoon2000 both located in the > >Philippines. > >It's a bit early to say, but my hunch is that parts of the Philippines > >will really cop the lot in about three days. > >In a week it might even approach us here in HK. > >Time will tell. > >I have also added links copied from Carl's site giving various BoM > >warnings for the current Coral Sea Tropical Low which may or may not > >amount to much anytime soon. > >Phil > ><>< > > > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > >Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: "Jane ONeill" > >To: > >Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:50:45 +1100 > >Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon & TS > > > >> Afternoon all, > >> > >> Mitag has been estimated by JTWC at 944hPa!! (but I can't find > >> confirmation anywhere else of this pressure) > >> > >> ...... and #93P (the tropically disturbed area SW of the Solomon > >> Islands) > >> is being monitored by the Joint Typhoon Warning Centre > >> http://kauai.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_home > >> > >> Meanwhile, in Melbourne we have passing drizzle.......... > >> > >> Thanks for organising that link Phil. > >> > >> Jane > >> > >> -------------------------------- > >> Jane ONeill - Melbourne > >> cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >> > >> Melbourne Storm Chasers > >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >> > >> ASWA - Victoria > >> http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >> -------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Phil Smith" > >> To: > >> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 10:23 AM > >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon Mitag > >> > >> > >> > Hi Jane and all, > >> > It looks set to become Super Typhoon Mitag within a couple of days, > >> if > >> > JTWC are correct. > >> > For those who have trouble cutting and pasting that long URL, there > >> is > >> a > >> > link to it on my site at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm where > >> > other appropriate links shall be added as the storm continues. > >> > The different models are predicting very different tracks at the > >> moment, > >> > some curving it sharply North towards Japan, others keeping it West > >> > towards Luzon. > >> > If it does head for Luzon, we may see it here in about a week's time. > >> > However as that path would be very rare for this time of year, I > >> suspect > >> > we will see it head for Taiwan or Japan. > >> > > >> > Phil > >> > <>< > >> > > >> > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > >> > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > >> > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > >> > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: "Jane ONeill" > >> > To: "Aussie-wx" > >> > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 14:49:07 +1100 > >> > Subject: aus-wx: Typhoon Mitag > >> > > >> > > Afternoon all, > >> > > > >> > > The Guam cyclone page has some local details re Typhoon Mitag - the > >> > > very > >> > > long URL is the Local Statement - Storm 1 > >> > > http://205.156.54.206/pr/guam/cyclone.html > >> > > > >> > > > >> http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/fmtbltn.pl?file=hurricane_products/west > >> > > e > >> > > > >> rn_pacific/storm_1/local_stmt.txt&title=Tropical+Cyclone%3CBR%3ELocal+S > >> > > t > >> > > > >> atement&maxage=006&alturl=http://www.nws.noaa.gov/pr/guam/nodata.html > >> > > > >> > > Jane > >> > > -------------------------------- > >> > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > >> > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >> > > > >> > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > >> > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >> > > > >> > > ASWA - Victoria > >> > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >> > > -------------------------------- > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > >> > > + > >> > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >> > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > >> of > >> > > your > >> > > message. > >> > > >> > >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- - 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Try it now, it should load a bit faster - takes just 1 minute on my old road Mac through an external 33.6K Netcomm Roadster modem. I replaced my thumbnails with lower quality versions so they are mostly the same size on the page but look a bit more crappy now, and removed the CIMSS thumbnails which were probably the real culprits in slowing the page down as I have always found CIMSS to be a bit of a snail paced server - the CIMSS thumbnails are all on a seperate webpage linked from there anyway at: http://www.qldnet.com.au/~carls/currentsatpics.htm which is a convenient way to browse them all without loading lots of CIMSS pages, but you have to be patient as it takes a while to load all the thumbnails. Note that some of the multitude of links on the page are now out of date so I must update them when I get the time, but many still work OK. Regards, Carl. >Carl just on a quick note about your web page.. is it possible that you >would be able to reduce the size of the images displayed... The reason for >this is that its awfually slow on a 56k connection and even on broadband >connection its still take some time to load. >But apart from that i think that its a great web page.. as it has lots of >usefull links. >Jason >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Carl Smith" >To: >Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:22 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon & TS > > >> Hi All. >> >> For those that don't know, the URL for my page for links to current >> information for both Ty Mitag and the Coral Sea tropical low is: >> http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm >> >> There is a wide angle colour satpic animation showing both systems at: >> http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/imagescurrent/g5.trop.satpicloop.gif >> >> Carl. ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm Weather-Ezine LR forecasting archives: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ezines/ezineindex.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aus Wx" Subject: aus-wx: Coral Sea low Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:10:09 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, The Coral Sea story continues....... from JTWC at 2am (AEDST) THE AREA OF CONVECTION PREVIOUSLY LOCATED NEAR 18.0S9 156.0E2 IS NOW LOCATED NEAR 19.0S0 157.5E8, APPROXIMATELY 550 NM NORTH-NORTHEAST OF BRISBANE, AUSTRALIA. ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATE THAT DEEP CONVECTION HAS INCREASED OVER THE EASTERN SEMICIRCLE OF THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC) DURING THE PAST SIX HOURS. THE 200 MB ANALYSIS INDICATES THE LLCC IS LOCATED POLEWARD OF THE UPPER LEVEL RIDGE AXIS UNDER A REGION OF MODERATE DIVERGENCE. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 20 TO 25 KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE 1001 MB. THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS UPGRADED TO FAIR. Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea low Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:53:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2002 21:52:18.0128 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA95DD00:01C1C3C6] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane Yes, its starting to look a bit better than 50/50 now for TC development - still the convection is very much off toward the SE. By the way the Philippines has its own list of TC names that are affective for storms in their area. However it still retains Mitag as an overall name - its confusing though. Regards Simon +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea low Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 09:04:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2002 22:05:29.0013 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1FD5650:01C1C3C8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. The Coral sea system is showing better outflow along the western side,however, surface convergence is irregular favouring a band to the east and another near to the centre, this seems at the moment to be disrupting the concentration of a singular convergent flow at the lower levels, also the convection to the east of the centre has some subsidence on its western edge, the connection to the mid lat trough appears to be severing. The next six hours will show what potential this system has. Also Mitag (sounds like a washing machine) is still edging towards the Philippines central portion of the island complex, although will be soon encountering progressively cooler water. regards Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Clarke To: Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:53 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea low > Hi Jane > > Yes, its starting to look a bit better than 50/50 now for TC development - > still the convection is very much off toward the SE. > > By the way the Philippines has its own list of TC names that are affective > for storms in their area. However it still retains Mitag as an overall > name - its confusing though. > > > > Regards > Simon > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 06:09:06 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon & TS X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jane and all, PAGASA have always allocated their own set of names for every depression or storm that enters their AOR. They always give the names alphabetically based on the date a system enters or is formed in their AOR. Because a TD (Tropical Depression - what BoM calls a Tropical Low) can do tremendous damage when the whole country is prone to flooding, mudslides and sub-standard (to our way of thinking) housing, they need to warn on systems that the met services of every other country would ignore. Thus their storm names rapidly get out of sequence, as JMA (and formerly JTWC) only allocate a name when a system reaches TS (Tropical Storm) strength. In this area we get used to storms with multiple names. On my site I frequently also give the Philippine name in brackets, if I think the storm may have significant impact on the Philippines, as I know that many Filipinos access my site for info as the official PAGASA site usually fails or slows down too much to be able to load. PAGASA is timing out at the moment as everyone in the Philippines is just getting out of bed. Another very useful site, run by Mike Padua, is found at http://www.typhoon2000.com but it also gets brought down by the frequent power failures if a storm crosses his ISP's area. When Mike loses power, he is unable to update his site until power is restored, which can sometimes take days, so you need to be forgiving if it suddenly gets behind during the passage of a storm over the Philippines. His IP address keeps on changing, so he must be swapping ISPs trying to find one that is more reliable. As Mitag has continued to swing NW I have just removed the "towards the Philippines" descriptor from my site although some of the models still have it crossing the Philippines. I no longer think there is much chance of seeing this storm anywhere near here. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 22:26:22 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon & TS > Evening all, > > From the Phillipines Met Service - how confusing is this?? They've > renamed Mitag into Basyang?????? Why?? > > SYNOPSIS: > At 2 PM today, Typhoon Basyang was located at 720 kms east of Guiuan, > Eastern Samar or at 960 kms east southeast of Legaspi City (11.2°N > 132.5°E) with maximum sustained winds of 160 kph near the center and > gustiness up to 195 kph. It is expected to move generally in a west > northwest direction at 13 kph. > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- [snip] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Victorian potential? Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 09:13:13 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2002 22:13:53.0651 (UTC) FILETIME=[DEC6FC30:01C1C3C9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all wish forecasters.
There is some shallow moisture accross southern Vic mostly below 850hpa some of which will dry out later today, the mid levels are a little warm, but conditions are rather cold at 300hpa -37 to -40c. There is some dry air embedded in the mid layers. With surface convection today looks like the best prospect of any activity is along the ranges east of Ballarat, an upper ridge appears to be edging in from the west ahead of tomorrows trough which will spread dryer and warmer air into the upper layers and weakening the lapse rates even further. Although I never take my eye off an approaching trough! so keep a lookout. regards Clyve H.
X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea low Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 09:57:30 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2002 22:57:31.0167 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6F03AF0:01C1C3CF] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi Clyve et al

I've been all for naming all cyclones after washing machines (much more appropriate considering their behaviour), but I guess you'd soon run out of names!  In some cases it would make for good newspaper headlines, eg 'Guess which city's got a whirlpool' (need to be of certain age to appreciate that one!).  Naming cyclones after things that spin, you could also use famous ice skaters: eg: Category 3 storm Torvill and Dean.

Michael

>From: "Clyve Herbert"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea low
>Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 09:04:48 +1100
>
>Hi all.
>The Coral sea system is showing better outflow along the western
>side,however, surface convergence is irregular favouring a band to the east
>and another near to the centre, this seems at the moment to be disrupting
>the concentration of a singular convergent flow at the lower levels, also
>the convection to the east of the centre has some subsidence on its western
>edge, the connection to the mid lat trough appears to be severing. The next
>six hours will show what potential this system has. Also Mitag (sounds like
>a washing machine) is still edging towards the Philippines central portion
>of the island complex, although will be soon encountering progressively
>cooler water. regards Clyve Herbert.


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From: David Jones To: "old AUSSIE WX (aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com)" Subject: aus-wx: yesterdays Cjs around Melbourne... Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:00:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Afternoon all, > >Having a quick look at the soundings during a break (as you do), there ha= >s >been significant moisture advection into the northeastern parts of Victor= >ia. >If you're curious, compare Wagga & Melbourne soundings to see the >difference, and then >..........have a look at the Cj's along the ranges!!!!!! Yea I noticed them myself, and was a little surprised how large some of them got. I would not be surprised if the larger ones dropped a few spots of rain. I notice that "thunder showers" has crept onto the official forecast (http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/wrap_fwo.pl?IDV10310.txt) for central and eastern ranges. The low level moisture looks relatively good, but the instability is marginal. Fingers crossed that some meso-feature provides the extra kick to get the action going, as a modest amount of destabilization could make all the difference between no action and some... Regards, David PS also notice a few thundery showers around Wagga this morning, which again points to some potential. Dr David Jones Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea low Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:55:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2002 23:56:14.0564 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B0BF240:01C1C3D8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Michael.
We own a Maytag washer and yesterday I had it going flat out!, very confused waves and lots of suds, there was good upper outflow with water splashing everywhere!!!, I also own a Victa "Vortex" lawn mower however I am not happy with it as bits keep flying off it and even the petrol tank fell off once and caught fire. regards Clyve H.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea low

Hi Clyve et al

I've been all for naming all cyclones after washing machines (much more appropriate considering their behaviour), but I guess you'd soon run out of names!  In some cases it would make for good newspaper headlines, eg 'Guess which city's got a whirlpool' (need to be of certain age to appreciate that one!).  Naming cyclones after things that spin, you could also use famous ice skaters: eg: Category 3 storm Torvill and Dean.

Michael

>From: "Clyve Herbert"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea low
>Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 09:04:48 +1100
>
>Hi all.
>The Coral sea system is showing better outflow along the western
>side,however, surface convergence is irregular favouring a band to the east
>and another near to the centre, this seems at the moment to be disrupting
>the concentration of a singular convergent flow at the lower levels, also
>the convection to the east of the centre has some subsidence on its western
>edge, the connection to the mid lat trough appears to be severing. The next
>six hours will show what potential this system has. Also Mitag (sounds like
>a washing machine) is still edging towards the Philippines central portion
>of the island complex, although will be soon encountering progressively
>cooler water. regards Clyve Herbert.


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Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 09:24:56 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea low X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, Clyve and all, Do you all remember that ANZ advertisement from a while back? I just uploaded it at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/images/anzad.jpg if anyone needs a reminder. It clearly shows that every city in Oz has a Whirlpool! In Oz years ago, we also had a Maytag washing machine and when Mitag was named, I must confess that was the first association my mind made with it. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 09:57:30 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea low >
>

Hi Clyve et al

>

I've been all for naming all cyclones after washing machines (much > more appropriate considering their behaviour), but I guess you'd soon > run out of names!  In some cases it would make for good newspaper > headlines, eg 'Guess which city's got a whirlpool' (need to be of > certain age to appreciate that one!).  Naming cyclones after > things that spin, you could also use famous ice skaters: eg: Category 3 > storm Torvill and Dean.

>

Michael

>
>
>From: "Clyve Herbert" >
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >
>To: >
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea low >
>Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 09:04:48 +1100 >
> >
>Hi all. >
>The Coral sea system is showing better outflow along the > western >
>side,however, surface convergence is irregular favouring > a band to the east >
>and another near to the centre, this seems at the moment > to be disrupting >
>the concentration of a singular convergent flow at the > lower levels, also >
>the convection to the east of the centre has some > subsidence on its western >
>edge, the connection to the mid lat trough appears to be > severing. The next >
>six hours will show what potential this system has. Also > Mitag (sounds like >
>a washing machine) is still edging towards the > Philippines central portion >
>of the island complex, although will be soon > encountering progressively >
>cooler water. regards Clyve Herbert. >
>


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With cold southerly air feeding into a warm moist system things could get nasty along the east coast and Wellington. In the meantime it will be interesting to watch the low pass through Norfolk island. Steven W Auckland Observer ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gaul" To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 11:48 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coral Sea trough/low area > At 19:29 3/03/02 +1300, you wrote: > Looks like this tropical disturbance is destined for NZ or beyond.(late > week) The high over Vic will help steer it out to sea away from Qld. If it > does come onto NZ it would be nice if it moved down our west coast so we > get the tropical air and interesting rainfall in Auckland. > Steven W > > > > Yes I am looking forward to see what this tropical disturbance may do. > whether it will fizz out or continue to move in a track towards NZ and > hopefully head into the Tasman Sea depending on the guidance/hinderance of > the anticyclones. Northland/Auckland/BOP could be in for a soak or humid > conditions, Christchurch cloudy boring annoying easterlies ???!!!! > > By the way we are missing out on possible thunder activity here > (ChCh/Canterbury)over the last few days. The current low pressure system to > the south of the South Island is moving in a TOOOOOOOOOO much of an > easterly direction. Tomorrow a weak frontal passage which could bring the > chance of a 'clap or two' will only just clip coasts and give us bugger all > in anything interesting weather-wise. An old man southerly should prevail > for the next few day before the anticyclone engosses us ! > After the events of late December/early January, the weather has been quite > uneventful here! > > > JohnGaul > NZ Thunderstorm Society > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Web page comments Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:22:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi carl. Yes I have found that its a little quicker now... your right that the thumb-nailers take the most time to load. But apart from them its great : ) º¿º ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 1:14 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Web page comments > Hi Jason. > > Try it now, it should load a bit faster - takes just 1 minute on my old > road Mac through an external 33.6K Netcomm Roadster modem. > > I replaced my thumbnails with lower quality versions so they are mostly the > same size on the page but look a bit more crappy now, and removed the CIMSS > thumbnails which were probably the real culprits in slowing the page down > as I have always found CIMSS to be a bit of a snail paced server - the > CIMSS thumbnails are all on a seperate webpage linked from there anyway at: > http://www.qldnet.com.au/~carls/currentsatpics.htm which is a convenient > way to browse them all without loading lots of CIMSS pages, but you have to > be patient as it takes a while to load all the thumbnails. > > Note that some of the multitude of links on the page are now out of date so > I must update them when I get the time, but many still work OK. > > Regards, > Carl. > > > >Carl just on a quick note about your web page.. is it possible that you > >would be able to reduce the size of the images displayed... The reason for > >this is that its awfually slow on a 56k connection and even on broadband > >connection its still take some time to load. > >But apart from that i think that its a great web page.. as it has lots of > >usefull links. > >Jason > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Carl Smith" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:22 PM > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Typhoon & TS > > > > > >> Hi All. > >> > >> For those that don't know, the URL for my page for links to current > >> information for both Ty Mitag and the Coral Sea tropical low is: > >> http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > >> > >> There is a wide angle colour satpic animation showing both systems at: > >> http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/imagescurrent/g5.trop.satpicloop.gif > >> > >> Carl. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > Carl Smith. > Gold Coast. > Queensland. > Australia. > > Email: carls at qldnet.com.au > Current Tropical Cyclone information : > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm > Weather-Ezine LR forecasting archives: > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ezines/ezineindex.htm > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: aus-wx: Des or Yolande by morning ? Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:30:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2002 09:30:00.0414 (UTC) FILETIME=[5273C7E0:01C1C428] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all punters
 
My bet is on Des next morning rather than Yolande by afternoon.
 
We will soon see.
 
Regards
Simon
From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Des or Yolande by morning ? Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 22:03:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Evening all,
 
TC Des it is!!
 
Gale warning issued by Brisbane at 0900 UTC 5 March 2002 for tropical cyclone Des 993 hPA near 19.4S/159.5E. Moving ESE at 10 knots. Gales within 180nm of cyclone centre.  
 
and
 
Mitag was down to 930hPa as at 5pm AEDST - Cat 4!!!!!

Jane
--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com
 
Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com
 
ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
--------------------------------
 
 
 

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:30 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Des or Yolande by morning ?

Hi all punters
 
My bet is on Des next morning rather than Yolande by afternoon.
 
We will soon see.
 
Regards
Simon
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: aus-wx: trough & front Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 22:36:51 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hi y'all
 
that trough is starting to arc up a bit in
easterm w.a. BOM forcast trough through
s.e. s.a. about 8:00am wednesday morning.
a bit soon for us. any storm activity will be
endothermic. if it maintains it's speed (which
they usually dont) it should be through central
vic. around midday to mid-afternoon which
should increase your chances of some action.
there's a wind swing associated with the trough,
the actual front at this stage is about 2-4hrs.
behind. i'll try and keep y'all posted as to
what happens here tomorrow morning.
 
                                                  thunda hunta               
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Des or Yolande by morning ? Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:23:40 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2002 22:24:18.0140 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D6A31C0:01C1C494] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
Not much has been said on the affect of Des on new Caledonia, looks as if the centre will pass very close to that  island this morning. regards Clyve H.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Des or Yolande by morning ?

Evening all,
 
TC Des it is!!
 
Gale warning issued by Brisbane at 0900 UTC 5 March 2002 for tropical cyclone Des 993 hPA near 19.4S/159.5E. Moving ESE at 10 knots. Gales within 180nm of cyclone centre.  
 
and
 
Mitag was down to 930hPa as at 5pm AEDST - Cat 4!!!!!

Jane
--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com
 
Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com
 
ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
--------------------------------
 
 
 

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:30 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Des or Yolande by morning ?

Hi all punters
 
My bet is on Des next morning rather than Yolande by afternoon.
 
We will soon see.
 
Regards
Simon
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: trough & front Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:29:13 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2002 22:29:50.0701 (UTC) FILETIME=[43A2F9D0:01C1C495] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
Here in central Vic there is still some limited moisture below 850hpa this morning, the  mid layers are on the warm side although will have improving moisture levels this afternoon, the trough appears to be showing signs of slowing down over inland areas of Vic with the cooler air sneaking along the coast first, other than all that , things look ok for some activity later today when temps start to break the 32c level especially over eastern Vic, if the change is delayed central Vic may turn it on too. regards Clyve H.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:06 PM
Subject: aus-wx: trough & front

hi y'all
 
that trough is starting to arc up a bit in
easterm w.a. BOM forcast trough through
s.e. s.a. about 8:00am wednesday morning.
a bit soon for us. any storm activity will be
endothermic. if it maintains it's speed (which
they usually dont) it should be through central
vic. around midday to mid-afternoon which
should increase your chances of some action.
there's a wind swing associated with the trough,
the actual front at this stage is about 2-4hrs.
behind. i'll try and keep y'all posted as to
what happens here tomorrow morning.
 
                                                  thunda hunta               
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 11:58:18 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List , Lightning List , Wx-Chase Subject: aus-wx: New Chase Reports Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I've uploaded a few more chase reports from "Thunder Downunder 2001" - Nov 27, 28, 29, 30 and Dec 1 are up at: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/01-02/tdu.html 28 and 29 had nothing happening, but I included them to continue the 'story' - hope to finish the reports in the next 1-2 weeks or so, and add the rest of the stuff in, Dec 2 was a great day!!! -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "dann weatherhead" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Chase Reports Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:23:02 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great Stuff AC, Macca Excellent work as always!!!!!!! dann ____________________________ Daniel Weatherhead weatherhead at ozemail.com.au Blaxland, NSW ============================ SYDNEY STORM CHASERS http://www.sydneystormchasers.com ============================ ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Cornelius To: Australian Weather Mailing List ; Lightning List ; Wx-Chase Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: aus-wx: New Chase Reports > Hi all, > > I've uploaded a few more chase reports from "Thunder Downunder 2001" - > Nov 27, 28, 29, 30 and Dec 1 are up at: > > http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/01-02/tdu.html > > 28 and 29 had nothing happening, but I included them to continue the > 'story' - hope to finish the reports in the next 1-2 weeks or so, and > add the rest of the stuff in, Dec 2 was a great day!!! > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:21:24 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com g'day Harold yes, i see where youre coming from. I've actually used the term endo\exothermic for many years now, I have no idea where i picked it up from,however i've suspected that it may not be mainstream terminology. In short I class them as this, EXOTHERMIC STORM :- that which is initiated, driven and\or enhanced directly by the sun, ie. a daytime storm. ENDOTHERMIC STORM:- that which does not rely on direct input from the sun for iniation,driving force and\or enhancement ie. a night time storm an exothermic storm can go well into the night but even the strongest ones have usually snuffed it after about 3hrs. after sundown. if they keep going after that i'll class them as endothermic with an exothermic iniation. If a storm arcs up endothermicly in the early hrs. of the morning and can hang on until late morning then you've got plenty of time to prepare for the fireworks once it starts to go exothermic. now I hear you asking, what do i call storms that go continusly day and night for more than 24hrs .......mate, thats called Heaven! sorry, it works for me! ----- Original Message ----- From: Harald Richter To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:06 AM Subject: endothermic storms > > Hi Richard, > > I am curious about your statement ... > > > ..... any storm activity will be endothermic. .... > > Is there also exothermic storm activity, and how would > it differ from endothermic storms? > > Cheers, Harald > > -- > _________________________________________________________________________ > Harald Richter ph: +61 3 9669 4501 > Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre fax: +61 3 9669 4660 > PO Box 1289K email: h.richter at bom.gov.au > Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > _________________________________________________________________________ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:39:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The terms come from chemistry. An exothermic reaction is where heat is given off (eg sulphuric acid on sugar) the other is where heat is absorbed (eg dissolving salt in water).Never heard of it being applied to the weather before but it seems helpful..
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:51 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms

g'day Harold

yes, i see where youre coming from. I've actually
used the term endo\exothermic for many years now, I have no idea where i
picked it up from,however i've suspected that it may not be mainstream
terminology. In short I class them as this,
EXOTHERMIC STORM :- that which is initiated,
driven and\or enhanced directly by the sun, ie. a
daytime storm.
ENDOTHERMIC STORM:- that which does not
rely on direct input from the sun for iniation,driving force and\or
enhancement ie. a night time storm

an exothermic storm can go well into the night but even the strongest ones
have usually snuffed it after about 3hrs. after sundown. if they keep going
after that i'll class them as endothermic with an exothermic iniation. If a
storm arcs up endothermicly in the early hrs. of the morning and can hang on
until late morning then you've got plenty of time to prepare for the
fireworks once it starts to go exothermic.
now I hear you asking, what do i call storms that go continusly day and
night for more than 24hrs .......mate, thats called Heaven!
sorry, it works for me!

----- Original Message -----
From: Harald Richter <h.richter at BoM.GOV.AU>
To: <hambone at dodo.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:06 AM
Subject: endothermic storms


>
> Hi Richard,
>
> I am curious about your statement ...
>
> > ..... any storm activity will be endothermic. ....
>
> Is there also exothermic storm activity,  and how would
> it differ from endothermic storms?
>
> Cheers,  Harald
>
> --
> _________________________________________________________________________
> Harald Richter                               ph:          +61 3 9669 4501
> Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre        fax:         +61 3 9669 4660
> PO Box 1289K                                 email:  h.richter at bom.gov.au
> Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia
> url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm
> _________________________________________________________________________
>

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From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:51:00 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
you're right Keith, i got it the wrong way around, i always thought an exothermic reaction required the input of heat to sustain a reaction, therefore daytime storms would be endothermic and night iniated storms would be exothermic. damnit, sorry again.
                 R.M.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms

The terms come from chemistry. An exothermic reaction is where heat is given off (eg sulphuric acid on sugar) the other is where heat is absorbed (eg dissolving salt in water).Never heard of it being applied to the weather before but it seems helpful..
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:51 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms

g'day Harold

yes, i see where youre coming from. I've actually
used the term endo\exothermic for many years now, I have no idea where i
picked it up from,however i've suspected that it may not be mainstream
terminology. In short I class them as this,
EXOTHERMIC STORM :- that which is initiated,
driven and\or enhanced directly by the sun, ie. a
daytime storm.
ENDOTHERMIC STORM:- that which does not
rely on direct input from the sun for iniation,driving force and\or
enhancement ie. a night time storm

an exothermic storm can go well into the night but even the strongest ones
have usually snuffed it after about 3hrs. after sundown. if they keep going
after that i'll class them as endothermic with an exothermic iniation. If a
storm arcs up endothermicly in the early hrs. of the morning and can hang on
until late morning then you've got plenty of time to prepare for the
fireworks once it starts to go exothermic.
now I hear you asking, what do i call storms that go continusly day and
night for more than 24hrs .......mate, thats called Heaven!
sorry, it works for me!

----- Original Message -----
From: Harald Richter <h.richter at BoM.GOV.AU>
To: <hambone at dodo.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:06 AM
Subject: endothermic storms


>
> Hi Richard,
>
> I am curious about your statement ...
>
> > ..... any storm activity will be endothermic. ....
>
> Is there also exothermic storm activity,  and how would
> it differ from endothermic storms?
>
> Cheers,  Harald
>
> --
> _________________________________________________________________________
> Harald Richter                               ph:          +61 3 9669 4501
> Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre        fax:         +61 3 9669 4660
> PO Box 1289K                                 email:  h.richter at bom.gov.au
> Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia
> url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm
> _________________________________________________________________________
>

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From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:25:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2002 12:26:24.0973 (UTC) FILETIME=[21C10FD0:01C1C50A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Greetings Richard. Thankyou for enriching the terminology available to weather enthusiasts, be it official or not, sometimes other than official wording can be a better descriptive way of an explanation, so could we use a word like storothermic for thunderstorms developing in cold air over relatively warm ocean/sea/lake surfaces. regards Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: richard modistach To: weather mailing list Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:51 PM Subject: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > g'day Harold > > yes, i see where youre coming from. I've actually > used the term endo\exothermic for many years now, I have no idea where i > picked it up from,however i've suspected that it may not be mainstream > terminology. In short I class them as this, > EXOTHERMIC STORM :- that which is initiated, > driven and\or enhanced directly by the sun, ie. a > daytime storm. > ENDOTHERMIC STORM:- that which does not > rely on direct input from the sun for iniation,driving force and\or > enhancement ie. a night time storm > > an exothermic storm can go well into the night but even the strongest ones > have usually snuffed it after about 3hrs. after sundown. if they keep going > after that i'll class them as endothermic with an exothermic iniation. If a > storm arcs up endothermicly in the early hrs. of the morning and can hang on > until late morning then you've got plenty of time to prepare for the > fireworks once it starts to go exothermic. > now I hear you asking, what do i call storms that go continusly day and > night for more than 24hrs .......mate, thats called Heaven! > sorry, it works for me! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Harald Richter > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:06 AM > Subject: endothermic storms > > > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > I am curious about your statement ... > > > > > ..... any storm activity will be endothermic. .... > > > > Is there also exothermic storm activity, and how would > > it differ from endothermic storms? > > > > Cheers, Harald > > > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Harald Richter ph: +61 3 9669 4501 > > Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre fax: +61 3 9669 4660 > > PO Box 1289K email: h.richter at bom.gov.au > > Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia > > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Fog cool change!. Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:36:41 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2002 12:37:15.0969 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5C72B10:01C1C50B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
A very interesting cool change here on the Victorian near coastal location of Leopold this morning. A check of the Victorian visible sat pic at 0930hrs showed an odd very low level cloud area moving along the Victorian coastline between Cape Otway and Lorne and edging north-eastward towards Port Phillip heads. A careful study revealed a large area of fog following and accompanying the wind change. At about 1130 hrs a wall of fog crossed the coast just south of Leopold and headed inland across the Bellarine Peninsular. The fog moved across my location as an almost straight line with clear air on the northeast side and rather thick fog to the south. The arrival of the fog was accompanied by a sudden strengthening of a southeast wind and a humidity jump from about 50% to 100% and a temp fall from 26c to 22c. After about 5 minutes the fog all but evaporated over the land but could be seen persisting over the nearby coast. good stuff, regards Clyve Herbert.
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:23:03 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com thanks clyve every group develop their own terminology eventually, i think providing a particular term is universally accepted and understood in it's meaning, then no problem. up to a couple of months ago back in the dark ages when i didn't know you guys existed, i'd never heard of the word flanger, i don't know who came up with that one but it's brilliant. as is Anthony cornelius describing being caught in a flangfest, i love it, been there myself. storothermic? sorry clyde, you got me there,dont know what the storo means, or did you just invent it? ----- Original Message ----- From: Clyve Herbert To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:55 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > Greetings Richard. > Thankyou for enriching the terminology available to weather enthusiasts, be > it official or not, sometimes other than official wording can be a better > descriptive way of an explanation, so could we use a word like storothermic > for thunderstorms developing in cold air over relatively warm ocean/sea/lake > surfaces. regards Clyve Herbert. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: richard modistach > To: weather mailing list > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:51 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > > > > g'day Harold > > > > yes, i see where youre coming from. I've actually > > used the term endo\exothermic for many years now, I have no idea where i > > picked it up from,however i've suspected that it may not be mainstream > > terminology. In short I class them as this, > > EXOTHERMIC STORM :- that which is initiated, > > driven and\or enhanced directly by the sun, ie. a > > daytime storm. > > ENDOTHERMIC STORM:- that which does not > > rely on direct input from the sun for iniation,driving force and\or > > enhancement ie. a night time storm > > > > an exothermic storm can go well into the night but even the strongest ones > > have usually snuffed it after about 3hrs. after sundown. if they keep > going > > after that i'll class them as endothermic with an exothermic iniation. If > a > > storm arcs up endothermicly in the early hrs. of the morning and can hang > on > > until late morning then you've got plenty of time to prepare for the > > fireworks once it starts to go exothermic. > > now I hear you asking, what do i call storms that go continusly day and > > night for more than 24hrs .......mate, thats called Heaven! > > sorry, it works for me! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Harald Richter > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:06 AM > > Subject: endothermic storms > > > > > > > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > > > I am curious about your statement ... > > > > > > > ..... any storm activity will be endothermic. .... > > > > > > Is there also exothermic storm activity, and how would > > > it differ from endothermic storms? > > > > > > Cheers, Harald > > > > > > -- > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > Harald Richter ph: +61 3 9669 > 4501 > > > Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre fax: +61 3 9669 > 4660 > > > PO Box 1289K email: > h.richter at bom.gov.au > > > Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia > > > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Jones To: "old AUSSIE WX (aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com)" Subject: aus-wx: idle speculation... Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:15:32 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ok, As the subject title says this is a bit of speculation, but pursuing the highly erratic model charts for the weekend, I would not be surprised to see some thundery activity across Victoria on Saturday and (more likely Sunday and Monday). The approaching Bight high is expected to ridge well south of Tasmania, while a weak mid level trough is maintained over the great Australian bight through until early next week. By Saturday, we should see the development of an easterly trough through NSW and into Victoria, with convergent (and moist) NE flow. The mix of warm low level temperatures, healthy low and mid-level moisture, low level convergence (and a touch of upper divergence) and coolish upper temperatures is reflected in the prognosed instability indices which suggest a rather unstable atmosphere in SE Aus over the weekend. The prognosed mix of ingredients is not explosive, but does point to some possible action. All these ingredients may then be swept up in a front around Tuesday, which varies in intensity from a full-blown cold-outbreak with snow to 1000m in NOGAPS, to something approximating a sea breeze in GASP and the EC models. Happy WX watching. Dr David Jones Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:32:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2002 23:33:10.0350 (UTC) FILETIME=[46D126E0:01C1C567] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Richard. I made it up, from the known 'storage' (storo)capacity of the ocean to retain heat, when colder air of Antarctic origin passes over the relatively warmer sea surface at lower latitudes this creates convection (day and night)and can produce showers and storms even waterspouts. regards Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: richard modistach To: weather mailing list Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:53 AM Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > thanks clyve > > every group develop their own terminology eventually, i think providing a > particular term is universally accepted and understood in it's meaning, then > no problem. up to a couple of months ago back in the dark ages when i didn't > know you guys existed, i'd never heard of the word flanger, i don't know who > came up with that one but it's brilliant. as is Anthony cornelius describing > being caught in a flangfest, i love it, been there myself. storothermic? > sorry clyde, you got me there,dont know what the storo means, or did you > just invent it? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Clyve Herbert > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:55 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > > > > Greetings Richard. > > Thankyou for enriching the terminology available to weather enthusiasts, > be > > it official or not, sometimes other than official wording can be a better > > descriptive way of an explanation, so could we use a word like > storothermic > > for thunderstorms developing in cold air over relatively warm > ocean/sea/lake > > surfaces. regards Clyve Herbert. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: richard modistach > > To: weather mailing list > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:51 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > > > > > > > g'day Harold > > > > > > yes, i see where youre coming from. I've actually > > > used the term endo\exothermic for many years now, I have no idea where i > > > picked it up from,however i've suspected that it may not be mainstream > > > terminology. In short I class them as this, > > > EXOTHERMIC STORM :- that which is initiated, > > > driven and\or enhanced directly by the sun, ie. a > > > daytime storm. > > > ENDOTHERMIC STORM:- that which does not > > > rely on direct input from the sun for iniation,driving force and\or > > > enhancement ie. a night time storm > > > > > > an exothermic storm can go well into the night but even the strongest > ones > > > have usually snuffed it after about 3hrs. after sundown. if they keep > > going > > > after that i'll class them as endothermic with an exothermic iniation. > If > > a > > > storm arcs up endothermicly in the early hrs. of the morning and can > hang > > on > > > until late morning then you've got plenty of time to prepare for the > > > fireworks once it starts to go exothermic. > > > now I hear you asking, what do i call storms that go continusly day and > > > night for more than 24hrs .......mate, thats called Heaven! > > > sorry, it works for me! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Harald Richter > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:06 AM > > > Subject: endothermic storms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > > > > > I am curious about your statement ... > > > > > > > > > ..... any storm activity will be endothermic. .... > > > > > > > > Is there also exothermic storm activity, and how would > > > > it differ from endothermic storms? > > > > > > > > Cheers, Harald > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Harald Richter ph: +61 3 9669 > > 4501 > > > > Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre fax: +61 3 9669 > > 4660 > > > > PO Box 1289K email: > > h.richter at bom.gov.au > > > > Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia > > > > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: idle speculation... Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:46:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2002 23:46:53.0298 (UTC) FILETIME=[31550D20:01C1C569] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi David. Anticyclones moving from the west of WA towards eastern Australian longitudes are still showing a tendency to weaken, although a sign of the progression of the seasons was the rather prolonged persistence of the baric ridge over northern Victoria last weak, the present stalling of the trough over NSW seems to indicate a probability of the baric ridge pushing southward towards Tasmania and a marked warming over inland NSW over the next several days, which will strengthen the prospects for a persisting trough through that state and extending into northern Vic. With a bit of luck moisture levels will progressively improve through the weekend and with cooler mid and upper levels (unlike yesterdays effort with warm mid levels) some afternoon convective storms about the ranges may result, a situation so lacking over the past summer ( if we can call it a summer). regards Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Jones To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:15 AM Subject: aus-wx: idle speculation... > Ok, > > As the subject title says this is a bit of speculation, but pursuing the > highly erratic model charts for the weekend, I would not be surprised to see > some thundery activity across Victoria on Saturday and (more likely Sunday > and Monday). The approaching Bight high is expected to ridge well south of > Tasmania, while a weak mid level trough is maintained over the great > Australian bight through until early next week. By Saturday, we should see > the development of an easterly trough through NSW and into Victoria, with > convergent (and moist) NE flow. The mix of warm low level temperatures, > healthy low and mid-level moisture, low level convergence (and a touch of > upper divergence) and coolish upper temperatures is reflected in the > prognosed instability indices which suggest a rather unstable atmosphere in > SE Aus over the weekend. The prognosed mix of ingredients is not explosive, > but does point to some possible action. > > All these ingredients may then be swept up in a front around Tuesday, which > varies in intensity from a full-blown cold-outbreak with snow to 1000m in > NOGAPS, to something approximating a sea breeze in GASP and the EC models. > > Happy WX watching. > > Dr David Jones > > Climate Analysis Section > National Climate Centre > Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 > GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 > Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 > email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Fw: Fog cool change!. Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:48:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2002 23:48:51.0610 (UTC) FILETIME=[77DA07A0:01C1C569] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Fog cool change!.

Hi all.
A very interesting cool change here on the Victorian near coastal location of Leopold this morning. A check of the Victorian visible sat pic at 0930hrs showed an odd very low level cloud area moving along the Victorian coastline between Cape Otway and Lorne and edging north-eastward towards Port Phillip heads. A careful study revealed a large area of fog following and accompanying the wind change. At about 1130 hrs a wall of fog crossed the coast just south of Leopold and headed inland across the Bellarine Peninsular. The fog moved across my location as an almost straight line with clear air on the northeast side and rather thick fog to the south. The arrival of the fog was accompanied by a sudden strengthening of a southeast wind and a humidity jump from about 50% to 100% and a temp fall from 26c to 22c. After about 5 minutes the fog all but evaporated over the land but could be seen persisting over the nearby coast. good stuff, regards Clyve Herbert.
From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie weather (new)'" Subject: aus-wx: TS Prospects for Illawarra/Sydney Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:22:15 +1100 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <75F9F329329FD311820000805F15FA9604CC1623 at itwol-msg01.itwol.bhp.com.au> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, Its looking reasonable outside at present (1pm) with a few cb's starting to build. At the moment though they are anvilling out at a fairly low level, but pre-anvil they look quite nice with pileus cappings being pushed through by the towers. With the prospect of a southerly change making it's way up the coast and hopefully a little more instability with it, things may happen a little later. On the coast it is fairly warm and humid, so here's hoping. 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Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\aus-wx TS Prospects for Illawa" From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 18:46:14 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hi Clyde thats a good one, i tried to look it up in a couple of dictionaries and even on the net with no results,i'd be more inclined to to call what you're describing as hydro thermic, however storo is a great metorogically sounding prefix, now all we have to do is come up with a really good meaning for it. by the way, seeing we're on the subject of terminology, what do you call the downdraft area on the opposite side of the storm to the gustfront?. i've always referred to it as the backdraft regards Thunda Hunta ----- Original Message ----- From: Clyve Herbert To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:02 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > Hi Richard. > I made it up, from the known 'storage' (storo)capacity of the ocean to > retain heat, when colder air of Antarctic origin passes over the relatively > warmer sea surface at lower latitudes this creates convection (day and > night)and can produce showers and storms even waterspouts. regards Clyve > Herbert. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: richard modistach > To: weather mailing list > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:53 AM > Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > > > > thanks clyve > > > > every group develop their own terminology eventually, i think providing a > > particular term is universally accepted and understood in it's meaning, > then > > no problem. up to a couple of months ago back in the dark ages when i > didn't > > know you guys existed, i'd never heard of the word flanger, i don't know > who > > came up with that one but it's brilliant. as is Anthony cornelius > describing > > being caught in a flangfest, i love it, been there myself. storothermic? > > sorry clyde, you got me there,dont know what the storo means, or did you > > just invent it? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Clyve Herbert > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:55 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > > > > > > > Greetings Richard. > > > Thankyou for enriching the terminology available to weather enthusiasts, > > be > > > it official or not, sometimes other than official wording can be a > better > > > descriptive way of an explanation, so could we use a word like > > storothermic > > > for thunderstorms developing in cold air over relatively warm > > ocean/sea/lake > > > surfaces. regards Clyve Herbert. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: richard modistach > > > To: weather mailing list > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:51 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > > > > > > > > > > g'day Harold > > > > > > > > yes, i see where youre coming from. I've actually > > > > used the term endo\exothermic for many years now, I have no idea where > i > > > > picked it up from,however i've suspected that it may not be mainstream > > > > terminology. In short I class them as this, > > > > EXOTHERMIC STORM :- that which is initiated, > > > > driven and\or enhanced directly by the sun, ie. a > > > > daytime storm. > > > > ENDOTHERMIC STORM:- that which does not > > > > rely on direct input from the sun for iniation,driving force and\or > > > > enhancement ie. a night time storm > > > > > > > > an exothermic storm can go well into the night but even the strongest > > ones > > > > have usually snuffed it after about 3hrs. after sundown. if they keep > > > going > > > > after that i'll class them as endothermic with an exothermic iniation. > > If > > > a > > > > storm arcs up endothermicly in the early hrs. of the morning and can > > hang > > > on > > > > until late morning then you've got plenty of time to prepare for the > > > > fireworks once it starts to go exothermic. > > > > now I hear you asking, what do i call storms that go continusly day > and > > > > night for more than 24hrs .......mate, thats called Heaven! > > > > sorry, it works for me! > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Harald Richter > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:06 AM > > > > Subject: endothermic storms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > > > > > > > I am curious about your statement ... > > > > > > > > > > > ..... any storm activity will be endothermic. .... > > > > > > > > > > Is there also exothermic storm activity, and how would > > > > > it differ from endothermic storms? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Harald > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Harald Richter ph: +61 3 9669 > > > 4501 > > > > > Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre fax: +61 3 9669 > > > 4660 > > > > > PO Box 1289K email: > > > h.richter at bom.gov.au > > > > > Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia > > > > > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p181-tnt4.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.134.181] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 19:44:09 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Richard, I may have missed it somehow, but in the tradition of the aussie-weather list, could you please tell us about yourself, your age, what you do, how long you have been interested in the weather, whatever you feel you would like to let us know. I find it great when people make that reference about others they did not know existed. This is what it is all about and how everything came to be on this list, the association, etc. Sometimes, it is great to reflect on this. Jimmy Deguara At 06:46 PM 7/3/2002 +1030, you wrote: >hi Clyde > >thats a good one, i tried to look it up in a couple of dictionaries and even >on the net with no results,i'd be more inclined to to call what you're >describing as hydro thermic, however storo is a great metorogically sounding >prefix, now all we have to do is come up with a really good meaning for it. >by the way, seeing we're on the subject of terminology, what do you call the >downdraft area on the opposite side of the storm to the gustfront?. i've >always referred to it as the backdraft > regards Thunda Hunta >----- Original Message ----- >From: Clyve Herbert >To: >Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:02 AM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > > > > Hi Richard. > > I made it up, from the known 'storage' (storo)capacity of the ocean to > > retain heat, when colder air of Antarctic origin passes over the >relatively > > warmer sea surface at lower latitudes this creates convection (day and > > night)and can produce showers and storms even waterspouts. regards Clyve > > Herbert. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: richard modistach > > To: weather mailing list > > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:53 AM > > Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > > > > > > > thanks clyve > > > > > > every group develop their own terminology eventually, i think providing >a > > > particular term is universally accepted and understood in it's meaning, > > then > > > no problem. up to a couple of months ago back in the dark ages when i > > didn't > > > know you guys existed, i'd never heard of the word flanger, i don't know > > who > > > came up with that one but it's brilliant. as is Anthony cornelius > > describing > > > being caught in a flangfest, i love it, been there myself. storothermic? > > > sorry clyde, you got me there,dont know what the storo means, or did you > > > just invent it? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Clyve Herbert > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:55 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > > > > > > > > > > Greetings Richard. > > > > Thankyou for enriching the terminology available to weather >enthusiasts, > > > be > > > > it official or not, sometimes other than official wording can be a > > better > > > > descriptive way of an explanation, so could we use a word like > > > storothermic > > > > for thunderstorms developing in cold air over relatively warm > > > ocean/sea/lake > > > > surfaces. regards Clyve Herbert. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: richard modistach > > > > To: weather mailing list > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:51 PM > > > > Subject: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > > > > > > > > > > > > > g'day Harold > > > > > > > > > > yes, i see where youre coming from. I've actually > > > > > used the term endo\exothermic for many years now, I have no idea >where > > i > > > > > picked it up from,however i've suspected that it may not be >mainstream > > > > > terminology. In short I class them as this, > > > > > EXOTHERMIC STORM :- that which is initiated, > > > > > driven and\or enhanced directly by the sun, ie. a > > > > > daytime storm. > > > > > ENDOTHERMIC STORM:- that which does not > > > > > rely on direct input from the sun for iniation,driving force and\or > > > > > enhancement ie. a night time storm > > > > > > > > > > an exothermic storm can go well into the night but even the >strongest > > > ones > > > > > have usually snuffed it after about 3hrs. after sundown. if they >keep > > > > going > > > > > after that i'll class them as endothermic with an exothermic >iniation. > > > If > > > > a > > > > > storm arcs up endothermicly in the early hrs. of the morning and can > > > hang > > > > on > > > > > until late morning then you've got plenty of time to prepare for the > > > > > fireworks once it starts to go exothermic. > > > > > now I hear you asking, what do i call storms that go continusly day > > and > > > > > night for more than 24hrs .......mate, thats called Heaven! > > > > > sorry, it works for me! > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Harald Richter > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:06 AM > > > > > Subject: endothermic storms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am curious about your statement ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..... any storm activity will be endothermic. .... > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there also exothermic storm activity, and how would > > > > > > it differ from endothermic storms? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Harald > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Harald Richter ph: +61 3 >9669 > > > > 4501 > > > > > > Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre fax: +61 3 >9669 > > > > 4660 > > > > > > PO Box 1289K email: > > > > h.richter at bom.gov.au > > > > > > Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia > > > > > > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "macdonald" To: Subject: aus-wx: GUYRA WINTER SUMMARY 2001 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:58:06 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey All,
Here is the summary for June,July,Aug 2001 for Guyra. August was a rather wild month with strong winds, snow , thunderstorm with hail....
check it out:
 
Cheers
Sam
Bring on Winter...!!
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 22:30:19 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: reminder - NSW ASWA Meeting Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just a reminder. The next NSW ASWA meeting will be hold on Saturday March 9 2002. Venue: The Weather Company, 7 West St North Sydney. Time: 7pm Parking: Free in the streets around TWC building. Press the Weather21 buzzer to be let in. On the agenda: *Updates on what the association is up too, planning, and how we are progressing. Storm news - Not long now! *Full information about the AGM, with confirmed date/time/venue etc. *Discussion about the past months weather, including the great February 16 chase, with video to be shown by Jimmy Deguara, David Croan and possibly Matthew Piper, for those that have not seen it. Feature Presentation: Keith Barnett will be showcasing a powerpoint presentation, with research he has conducted which will cover a comparison of monthly rainfalls figures at Seven Hills, Sydney and Turramurra plus a comparison of anomalies of rainfall for individual months in Sydney. This is sure to be an presentation not to be missed as Keith has put many hours of his time into collecting the data and putting it together for this presentation. ASWA Stickers will be for sale, for $4 each. Orders for ASWA Hats will also be taken. More info on these on the night. They are selling $15 each. Non members are most welcome and please bring a few dollars for pizza, and if you have any photographs or video you would like to show, please bring them along! Hope to see you all there. Matthew Smith and Matthew Pearce NSW ASWA State Representatives. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: New clickable map for Australian weather observations Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 23:02:57 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Australian Weather News now has a map you can click to get the current and past 6 hours AWS observations for each rainfall district in Australia. You access it off the obvious link on the main index page. These are the same obs panels as I use in the weather briefing pages, and highlight strong winds and heavy rainfall, and include hourly rainfall amounts for each station. The 6-hour string of obs includes not only the hourly (and where available the half-hourly) obs, but also any SPECI or special obs generated by strong winds, heavy rain, sudden wind direction or temperature or barometer changes, etc. I've moved the processing over to a faster computer, and they should update by about 15 and 45 minutes past the hour from late Friday. Any feedback would be welcome. Cheers Laurier Williams Australian Weather News http://www.australianweathernews.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: OT: Try this for a laugh Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:37:05 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/dialectp.cgi?dialect=redneck&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bsch.au.com Quote: While menny varmints may po'tray sto'm chasers in th' stereotypical gun-ho manner sech as Twister, it is far fum th' truth. Most sto'm chasers is sensible in whut they do, an' haf junuine corncern fo' th' safety of themselves, feller sto'm chasers an' th' public. Th' idea of "chasin'" a thunnersto'm offen seems rather extreme t'menny varmints. Howevah, durin' a thunnersto'm menny varmints will look out th' window, o' look out fum th' patio on th' backyard to watch a sto'm, dawgone it. Essentially, yer maneuvahin' yo'seff into a posishun to better see th' thunnersto'm, dawgone it. Sto'm chasin' takes this hyar one step further, thet is puttin' yo'seff into a better posishun t'see a thunnersto'm, dawgone it. This hyar c'd range fum drivin' t'a hill jest a few minutes away, t'drivin' down t'th' bo'der ranges an' observin' th' sto'ms thar fo' sevahal hours, to even takin' a "sto'm chase holiday" whar yo' chase sto'ms throughout Aestralia. It's all sto'm chasin', an' how much of it yo' does no'mally depends on inthusiasm, time an' money. David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8h17xF2H7v0XOYBIRAvZvAKCf7l0Km92b8lHLchyMYpqnr0u3xACcCA1b xhyhh+/LgS4+C5eh9NaKXgY= =IG82 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: Canberra Cb's 7/3/02 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 01:50:35 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Mar 2002 14:49:29.0287 (UTC) FILETIME=[48D12D70:01C1C5E7] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, Thursday evening i was witness to 2 of the most spectactular Cb's i have seen over the ACT. 2 Cb's about 30kms apart, 35000ft ++ Clear view, Fantastic structure and colour from the setting sun, really thick Anvil on the Northern one and a great updraft on the southern one. UNFORTUNATLY i was woking at the time and only saw them on my meal break, i didn't take my Camera Either :( If any has Sydney 256km radar (and other stuff, Lightning tracker etc etc) from 4pm onwards could you please them email it to me. ALSO for the Canberrians on the list, if you did have the oportunity to photograph them if you could possibly email/send me the photos and i will publish them on canberra-wx. Cheers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Simon Angell Canberra ACT ICQ# 128920513 www.canberra-wx.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This Message is Virus free, checked with NORTON ANTIVIRUS 2000, file 3/3/02 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aus Wx" Subject: aus-wx: Mitag does a U-turn Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:42:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, TS Mitag has done a U-turn & is heading south again, but doesn't appear to be going to reintensify. A. TYPHOON (TY) 02W (MITAG), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 570 NM SOUTHWEST OF IWO JIMA IN THE PHILIPPINE SEA, HAS TRACKED EAST-SOUTHEASTWARD AT 09 KNOTS DURING THE PAST 6 HOURS. THE WARNING POSITION IS BASED ON 071130Z2 INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY AND RECENT MICROWAVE IMAGERY. THE WARNING INTENSITY IS BASED ON SATELLITE CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATES OF 65 KNOTS. THE LATEST MICROWAVE IMAGERY INDICATES THAT THE SYSTEM HAS WEAKENED RAPIDLY DURING THE PAST 12 HOURS AND DEEP CONVECTION IS BEING SHEARED TO THE NORTH. B. TY 02W IS FORECAST TRACK SLOWLY SOUTHWARD AS THE SYSTEM REMAINS IN A STRONG VERTICAL SHEAR ENVIRONMENT. TY 02W IS EXPECTED TO TURN SHARPLY TO THE SOUTH IN RESPONSE TO STRONG MONSOON NORTHEASTERLIES ASSOCIATED WITH A HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED OVER THE EAST CHINA SEA. THE AVAILABLE DYNAMIC AIDS INCLUDE NOGAPS, GFDN, UKMET OFFICE (EGRR), NCEP AVIATION (AVN), COAMPS, JMA GLOBAL SPECTRAL (JGSM) AND TYPHOON (JTYM) MODELS. THE MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THIS SCENARIO, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JTYM WHICH REMAINS AN OUTLIER AND IS APPARENTLY RESISTANT TO THE STRONG VERTICAL SHEAR ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER LEVEL WESTERLIES. THIS SOLUTION WAS DISCARDED IN DRAFTING THE FORECAST. THE TRACK IS BASED ON FIELD ANALYSIS AND A BLEND OF SIX MODELS. C. TY 02W IS FORECAST TO WEAKEN FURTHER AS IT ENTRAINS COOL DRY AIR ASSOCIATED WITH A NORTHEAST MONSOON SURGE AND EXPERIENCES STRONG VERTICAL WIND SHEAR. D. INITIAL WIND RADII ARE BASED ON SATELLITE IMAGERY. FORECAST WIND RADII ARE BASED ON CLIMATOLOGY FOR A SYSTEM INTERACTING WITH THE BAROCLINIC ZONE. Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:21:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Mar 2002 23:21:42.0911 (UTC) FILETIME=[D77C08F0:01C1C62E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Richard. The excepted term for the downdraft area to the rear of thunderstorms is the 'rear flank downdraft', this phenomena seems to be more prominent in severe thunderstorms with well organised inflow outflow characteristics and a few more complexities present as well. There is also a clear slot sometimes seen around large tornadoes which gives the impression of the tornado being a separate identity to the storm, it is presumed that this clear slot is a surrounding of subsiding air or dry air incursion. Thunderstorms small or large are complex atmospheric processes on the meso scale and sometimes on the local to synoptic scale as well. A large number of variability's in inflow outflow updraft and downdraft conditions occur and change their characteristics every second. regards Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: richard modistach To: weather mailing list Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:16 PM Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > hi Clyde > > thats a good one, i tried to look it up in a couple of dictionaries and even > on the net with no results,i'd be more inclined to to call what you're > describing as hydro thermic, however storo is a great metorogically sounding > prefix, now all we have to do is come up with a really good meaning for it. > by the way, seeing we're on the subject of terminology, what do you call the > downdraft area on the opposite side of the storm to the gustfront?. i've > always referred to it as the backdraft > regards Thunda Hunta > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Clyve Herbert > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > > > > Hi Richard. > > I made it up, from the known 'storage' (storo)capacity of the ocean to > > retain heat, when colder air of Antarctic origin passes over the > relatively > > warmer sea surface at lower latitudes this creates convection (day and > > night)and can produce showers and storms even waterspouts. regards Clyve > > Herbert. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: richard modistach > > To: weather mailing list > > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:53 AM > > Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > > > > > > > thanks clyve > > > > > > every group develop their own terminology eventually, i think providing > a > > > particular term is universally accepted and understood in it's meaning, > > then > > > no problem. up to a couple of months ago back in the dark ages when i > > didn't > > > know you guys existed, i'd never heard of the word flanger, i don't know > > who > > > came up with that one but it's brilliant. as is Anthony cornelius > > describing > > > being caught in a flangfest, i love it, been there myself. storothermic? > > > sorry clyde, you got me there,dont know what the storo means, or did you > > > just invent it? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Clyve Herbert > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:55 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > > > > > > > > > > Greetings Richard. > > > > Thankyou for enriching the terminology available to weather > enthusiasts, > > > be > > > > it official or not, sometimes other than official wording can be a > > better > > > > descriptive way of an explanation, so could we use a word like > > > storothermic > > > > for thunderstorms developing in cold air over relatively warm > > > ocean/sea/lake > > > > surfaces. regards Clyve Herbert. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: richard modistach > > > > To: weather mailing list > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:51 PM > > > > Subject: aus-wx: Fw: endothermic storms > > > > > > > > > > > > > g'day Harold > > > > > > > > > > yes, i see where youre coming from. I've actually > > > > > used the term endo\exothermic for many years now, I have no idea > where > > i > > > > > picked it up from,however i've suspected that it may not be > mainstream > > > > > terminology. In short I class them as this, > > > > > EXOTHERMIC STORM :- that which is initiated, > > > > > driven and\or enhanced directly by the sun, ie. a > > > > > daytime storm. > > > > > ENDOTHERMIC STORM:- that which does not > > > > > rely on direct input from the sun for iniation,driving force and\or > > > > > enhancement ie. a night time storm > > > > > > > > > > an exothermic storm can go well into the night but even the > strongest > > > ones > > > > > have usually snuffed it after about 3hrs. after sundown. if they > keep > > > > going > > > > > after that i'll class them as endothermic with an exothermic > iniation. > > > If > > > > a > > > > > storm arcs up endothermicly in the early hrs. of the morning and can > > > hang > > > > on > > > > > until late morning then you've got plenty of time to prepare for the > > > > > fireworks once it starts to go exothermic. > > > > > now I hear you asking, what do i call storms that go continusly day > > and > > > > > night for more than 24hrs .......mate, thats called Heaven! > > > > > sorry, it works for me! > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Harald Richter > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:06 AM > > > > > Subject: endothermic storms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am curious about your statement ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..... any storm activity will be endothermic. .... > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there also exothermic storm activity, and how would > > > > > > it differ from endothermic storms? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Harald > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Harald Richter ph: +61 3 > 9669 > > > > 4501 > > > > > > Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre fax: +61 3 > 9669 > > > > 4660 > > > > > > PO Box 1289K email: > > > > h.richter at bom.gov.au > > > > > > Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia > > > > > > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Tim Eckert To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [203.54.22.16] Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 19:24:48 +1000 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: aus-wx: My web site Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello all. It has been a while since I've posted here but I am a regular contributor to the weatherzone forum. To reintroduce myself to those that don't know me, I am 25 years old, married for 2 years, living in Coleraine SW Victoria. Before September last year I spent all my life in SA. My current occupation is freelance photographer. I do weddings, functions, etc, plus casual photography work for the local newspaper. I also do some part-time computer work at the Secondary school at Hamilton where my wife teaches. I love all sorts of weather, especially thunderstorms, hail, floods, and heatwaves. I have finally finished putting together a web site of my weather experiences. The site might not look too professional but it has kept me busy for a while and I have gained a lot of enjoyment from learning how to design a page and all that goes with publishing it. Obviously it has a large SA bias as I have spent 99% of my life there, but since moving to VIC, funnily enough my storm experiences have grown, together with a larger interest in it through ASWA, this list, and the WeatherZone site. I hope you enjoy perusing the site - not a lot of spectacular storm shots (remember I lived in SA) - but IT is a record of MY experiences. http://au.geocities.com/timjeckert/ Please feel free to comment positively or negatively. Tim. __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: My web site Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:53:43 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2002 09:52:09.0151 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9AE34F0:01C1C686] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Nice site tim. Simple and easy to navigate, Be careful though, you will start to get more invovled in it and want to improve it and then it will start costing you, it happened to me, i started a simple site a couple days after a severe storm hit canberra and now i have www.canberra-wx.com this is 80 - 90% complete, but im working on it at every spare chance i get (right now for example) Cheers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Simon Angell Canberra ACT ICQ# 128920513 www.canberra-wx.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This Message is Virus free, checked with NORTON ANTIVIRUS 2000, file 3/3/02 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Eckert" To: Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 8:24 PM Subject: aus-wx: My web site > Hello all. > It has been a while since I've posted here but I am a regular > contributor to the weatherzone forum. To reintroduce myself to those > that don't know me, I am 25 years old, married for 2 years, living in > Coleraine SW Victoria. Before September last year I spent all my life > in SA. My current occupation is freelance photographer. I do weddings, > functions, etc, plus casual photography work for the local newspaper. > I also do some part-time computer work at the Secondary school at > Hamilton where my wife teaches. I love all sorts of weather, > especially thunderstorms, hail, floods, and heatwaves. > > I have finally finished putting together a web site of my weather > experiences. The site might not look too professional but it has kept > me busy for a while and I have gained a lot of enjoyment from learning > how to design a page and all that goes with publishing it. > Obviously it has a large SA bias as I have spent 99% of my life there, > but since moving to VIC, funnily enough my storm experiences have > grown, together with a larger interest in it through ASWA, this list, > and the WeatherZone site. > I hope you enjoy perusing the site - not a lot of spectacular storm > shots (remember I lived in SA) - but IT is a record of MY experiences. > http://au.geocities.com/timjeckert/ > > Please feel free to comment positively or negatively. > Tim. > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "macdonald" To: Subject: aus-wx: re My Website Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:43:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey Tim,
I just looked at your website. It is very well set out. I was particularly interested in the August 18th 1996 snowfall in the Adeliade Hills. This cold outbreak reached Toowoomba which had a brief 10 min snowfall on the 19th August 1996.
 
I too recently made a website to cover the weather in Guyra in the New England and Tallai, a rural suburb in the Gold Cosa hinterland. http://www.geocities.com/ratman6900/index.html
It is has been so dry up this way.
 
I'll be back to your website .. to check up dates
 
cheers
Sam
 
 
From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: re My Website Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:01:01 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2002 10:59:26.0239 (UTC) FILETIME=[4FF8F2F0:01C1C690] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Sam
I took a look at your site, very nice. However you state Guyra as the Highest town in Australia, This however is untrue. Cabramurra is the highest town in Australian at 1465 m above sea level.

Cheers
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Canberra ACT
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www.canberra-wx.com
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From: macdonald
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 8:43 PM
Subject: aus-wx: re My Website

Hey Tim,
I just looked at your website. It is very well set out. I was particularly interested in the August 18th 1996 snowfall in the Adeliade Hills. This cold outbreak reached Toowoomba which had a brief 10 min snowfall on the 19th August 1996.
 
I too recently made a website to cover the weather in Guyra in the New England and Tallai, a rural suburb in the Gold Cosa hinterland. http://www.geocities.com/ratman6900/index.html
It is has been so dry up this way.
 
I'll be back to your website .. to check up dates
 
cheers
Sam
 
 
From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: re My Website Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:11:29 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2002 11:09:55.0169 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6D80D10:01C1C691] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Actually, you maybe right with Guyra, i did some looking and found a few pages o cabramurra, like
Apparently it is the highest settlement, but it does have town like ammenities, like a small shopping centre and tourist information (or it did last time i was there)

Cheers
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Canberra ACT
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www.canberra-wx.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: macdonald
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 8:43 PM
Subject: aus-wx: re My Website

Hey Tim,
I just looked at your website. It is very well set out. I was particularly interested in the August 18th 1996 snowfall in the Adeliade Hills. This cold outbreak reached Toowoomba which had a brief 10 min snowfall on the 19th August 1996.
 
I too recently made a website to cover the weather in Guyra in the New England and Tallai, a rural suburb in the Gold Cosa hinterland. http://www.geocities.com/ratman6900/index.html
It is has been so dry up this way.
 
I'll be back to your website .. to check up dates
 
cheers
Sam
 
 
From: Tim Eckert To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [144.134.131.134] Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 22:49:29 +1000 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: Re: aus-wx: My web site Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Simon and Sam for your comments. Thanks for the warning Simon.:) I'll try not to get too involved with the site! But I think you're right - there seems to be a bug you catch - once you start, you are always trying to improve it and update it. BTW, your site looks better every time I see it! Sam, nice looking site as well. How much difference is there with Guyra's climate and Glen Innes climate? I think Glen Innes would be a nice place to live as others have said on this list. My wife would like to teach there but I haven't told her the reason I want to go there. (close proximity to REALLY GOOD STORMS). That morning in August 1996 in the Adelaide Hills was amazing. It was the first and only time I've ever seen snow. It was like a completely different country - I still can't imagine those hills covered in snow like that! Cheers, Tim. Original message from: "Simon Angell" > >Nice site tim. >Simple and easy to navigate, Be careful though, you will start to get more >invovled in it and want to improve it and then it will start costing you, it >happened to me, i started a simple site a couple days after a severe storm >hit canberra and now i have www.canberra-wx.com this is 80 - 90% complete, >but im working on it at every spare chance i get (right now for example) > >Cheers >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Simon Angell >Canberra ACT >ICQ# 128920513 >www.canberra-wx.com >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >This Message is Virus free, checked with >NORTON ANTIVIRUS 2000, file 3/3/02 >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tim Eckert" >To: >Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 8:24 PM >Subject: aus-wx: My web site > > >> Hello all. >> It has been a while since I've posted here but I am a regular >> contributor to the weatherzone forum. To reintroduce myself to those >> that don't know me, I am 25 years old, married for 2 years, living in >> Coleraine SW Victoria. Before September last year I spent all my life >> in SA. My current occupation is freelance photographer. I do weddings, >> functions, etc, plus casual photography work for the local newspaper. >> I also do some part-time computer work at the Secondary school at >> Hamilton where my wife teaches. I love all sorts of weather, >> especially thunderstorms, hail, floods, and heatwaves. >> >> I have finally finished putting together a web site of my weather >> experiences. The site might not look too professional but it has kept >> me busy for a while and I have gained a lot of enjoyment from learning >> how to design a page and all that goes with publishing it. >> Obviously it has a large SA bias as I have spent 99% of my life there, >> but since moving to VIC, funnily enough my storm experiences have >> grown, together with a larger interest in it through ASWA, this list, >> and the WeatherZone site. >> I hope you enjoy perusing the site - not a lot of spectacular storm >> shots (remember I lived in SA) - but IT is a record of MY experiences. >> http://au.geocities.com/timjeckert/ >> >> Please feel free to comment positively or negatively. >> Tim. >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - >> > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - >. > __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 23:31:23 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List , Wx-Chase , Lightning List Subject: aus-wx: A Step Back in Time - 2000 Chase Reports Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Well - after a rather lengthy delay, I've finally got some of my old "Thunder Downunder 2000" reports up!!! I've uploaded 13 chase reports from Nov 16 to Nov 28 at: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/00-01/tdu.html This includes the Cobar & Mullaley Tornadoes, Banana Supercell and lots of other great days! -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: aus-wx: TC Hary Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 18:55:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2002 08:53:44.0646 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB3EEE60:01C1C747] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Following the trend of numerous intense TC's in the Southern Indian Ocean this season, TC Hary has made it to 915 hpa.
 
 
Hope he keeps clear of the M'd's'car coast though (very very close).
 
Regards
Simon
 
 
 
From: "macdonald" To: Subject: aus-wx: GUYRA 2001-2002 SUMMER SUMMARY Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 22:13:58 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey All,
 
Just completed the Guyra summaries for Dec,Jan and Feb.
 
Compared to hear at Tallai, Gold Coast. Guyra had a rather wet summer.
cheers
Sam
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: aus-wx: Fw: about your site Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:08:10 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hi tim i dont know the first thing about making websites, yet, but the way things are going it looks like i will soon. i now understand your position, tis the nature of the beast.sorry, i thought you wrote that you'd lived in colraine most of your life, don't worry, be patient, you will get some rippers down there one day. days like tomorrow are the ones to watch very carefully, met forecasts not much to happen tomorrow(sunday) and they will probably be right but they can be comletley wrong at times,through no falt of their own mind you, and taking their forcast as gospel can get you caught with your pants well and truly down. i take met forcasts seriously but on possible convection days i use the stick my head out the door every thirty minutes and have a look around approach, but having said that you also have to be ready to jump to attention at a moments notice.good luck with tomorrow, hope you get something. regards Thunda Hunta ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Eckert To: Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 6:08 PM Subject: Re: about your site > Hi Richard, > Thanks for your comments about my site. Unfortunatley being free web > space with Yahoo you get the ads with it! :) One day when I have money > I'll buy my own domain name. > By the sound of those storms I wish I was here on March 2nd 1999. As > you may have read, I have lived in SA (MClaren Vale and Adelaide) most > of my life. Moved here last year in September. > Just waiting for a nice storm day here. Unfortunatly havent really had > a great one this summer. > Really nice today - good field of Cu some conjesting about 5pm tonight > but all dying now (6:30pm). Hopefully will get something tomorrow or > Monday. > Are you a member of ASWA yet? > > Cheers, > Tim. > > > > Original message from: hambone at dodo.com.au > > > >hi Tim > > Richard modistach's my name.nice site & photos, dont like all the > advertising & windows that keep popping up though. did you get > anything of the huge storm system that went through your way on march > 2 1999.things started to arc up around 2 in the morning up here, it > was a tuesday, cells were iniating sw of lucindale and sliding se > through coonawarra & penola straight for you, i got some( about > 1-1\2hrs. ), kickass hi-8 video,cloud formations & lightning shows to > die for. and the highlight of the day was when we core punched it > through the back door between penola & casterton and got a flang > infested whiteout that was almost to surreal to believe, and all of > this at 8am in the morning. i'll tell you all about it when we meet, > which i hope will be soon. i was starting to think i was the only > stormchaser within 300k around here. it's good to know there someone > close by and you're in a great strategic position too, now all we need > is someone in the mount and we'll really be ab! > >le to close the net on these suckers when they arc up. i've only been > posting into aus-wx for a few weeks now and the chasers in the eastern > states and adelaide are just starting to get used to me. if you've > been reading aus-wx and weatherzone forum you will have seen me there. > jimmy deguara has asked for my personal profile and i'll be posting > that shortly on aus-wx, so if you want to find out more about who i am > then you'll be able to find out there.look forward to hearing from you > soon. > > > > regards Thunda Hunta > >. > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 09:46:11 +1100 From: Paul Mirtschin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: From www.theatlantic.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Norman, Oklahoma In search of the perfect storm The race for ever more sensational "torn porn" is on by Wayne Curtis ..... The hazards faced by those attempting to shoot close-up video footage of tornadoes cannot be overstated. Tornadoes can form suddenly and with little warning, and photographers who turn down the wrong road at the wrong time can find themselves discomfited by 200-mph winds containing jagged bits of automobiles, sheets of razor-sharp aluminum siding, and lancelike sections of splintered fence posts. Yet as anyone who watches television knows, the potential consequences have not stanched the flow of tornado videos. Nothing, apparently, boosts ratings like nature out of control, and in recent years blurry scenes of tornadoes hoovering up subdivisions, livestock-filled barns, and blue-sparking electric substations—examples of a genre sometimes referred to as "torn porn"—have become a staple on broadcast and cable networks. Supplying the tornado-video industry is a coterie of camera-toting semi-professional storm chasers who converge on the Great Plains each spring, during the height of tornado season. Many drive cars elaborately accessorized with multiple antennae and inscrutable meteorological devices; when they meet up at a parking lot, the gathering can resemble a fleet of landlocked fishing trawlers. Although some pursue storms for the sheer fun of it, a good many hope to cover the cost of their obsession, and perhaps even to turn a small profit, by selling footage to television documentarians, local news outlets, or The Weather Channel. Chasers say that they typically earn $20 to $50 for each second of video aired, although this can go as high as $200 a second, depending on quality, quantity, and exclusivity. One might assume that the ongoing film festival of tornado carnage would translate into heady times for freelance storm videographers. Surprisingly, that's not the case. Storm chasers who just a few years ago could count on pocketing a few hundred dollars or more for a well-composed, in-focus video of a twister are today uniformly gloomy about their prospects. For one thing, supply now outstrips demand. What the televised videos don't show is that the person shooting the scene is often just one of a dozen or more photographers parked haphazardly along the side of the same road, all shouting "Tornado on the ground!" and all getting basically the same shot. What's more, the sorts of roadside videos historically obtained by the semi-pros have fallen out of favor. "In the early 1990s producers wanted steady tripod shots, smooth pans, artistic footage," says Greg Stumpf, a meteorologist and an experienced storm chaser and photographer. "Today they want the thrilling, shocking, Cops-like video—handheld and all jerky, with the focus going in and out, and a lot of screaming." This kind of footage is as often as not obtained by camcorder-owning amateurs—storm chase-ees rather than chasers—who impulsively grab their cameras as a tornado approaches and, through either bravado or stupidity, shoot well past the time they should have taken cover. (Aficionados often identify these clips by the incidental comments made during the filming. Among the better-known amateur videos are "Get Away From the Window!" and "God, I Hate Oklahoma.") The amateurs tend to be honored to have their tapes run on TV and often provide them to producers at no charge. The upshot of all of this is an effort among some veteran storm videographers to get hard-core footage that amateur photographers could not possibly stumble on. Footage, say, from inside a tornado's vortex. Of course, no matter how motivated a storm chaser may be to obtain such a shot, certain tactical and safety problems present themselves. But what if one could deploy an impregnable video system—in essence, a small, heavily fortified bunker containing a running video camera—directly under a tornado? Norman, Oklahoma, is the home of the National Severe Storms Laboratory and a favored layover spot for storm chasers waiting out lulls in bad weather. I visited the town last May, because I had received reports that several storm chasers had in fact developed military-strength tornado cameras, and that a sort of small-scale space race to obtain usable footage with them was under way. The reports weren't hard to confirm. Wandering around the parking lot of my motel one sunny morning, I came upon four storm chasers who had been crisscrossing the Plains with their tornado cams in tow. Much of the inspiration for these would-be pioneers has come from the tantalizing near success of one of the people I spoke with there—Charles Edwards, an enterprising Oklahoman who built and deployed the first tornado cam. (Edwards is also a groundbreaker in storm tourism, and has been leading vans of waiver-signing tourists in search of severe weather since 1996.) Edwards constructed a camera housing out of fiberglass and lead; it was about the size and shape of the portable gas tanks commonly used in boats with outboard motors, and was painted the same bright orange, a color chosen to make the device easier to find after a storm. In May of 1997 Edwards placed his camera in what he hoped would be the path of an oncoming tornado outside Wichita, Kansas. He had planned well: the tornado scored a direct hit. When he recovered the device, the following day, the paint had been sandblasted clean off one side of the housing, and the camera had been so badly mangled that it took him three days to extract the videotape. The footage is spectacular—up to a point. A menacing if somewhat murky wedge-shaped tornado vectors toward the camera, but at a critical juncture—when the funnel is all but upon the camera—the storm's fierce winds slop a thick coat of mud across the lens, fully obscuring the tornado from view. (Edwards nevertheless sold the footage to a producer for $8,000 and licensed the audio to a museum for use in a facsimile storm shelter.) The following year Edwards built a new camera housing with several refinements, which he described to me when not lamenting the day's disappointingly pleasant weather. These included a recessed lens, a mud trap, and a grenade-pin-style power switch; he added the switch after debris from a tornado turned the camera off. Edwards has deployed the new device four times, but each attempt was thwarted by a technical glitch or a dissipating storm. Also in the parking lot was Jim Leonard, of the Florida Keys, who assists Edwards on his storm tours and is one of the original auteurs of storm video. Leonard has been chasing tornadoes, hurricanes, and typhoons for twenty-eight years. He recently produced a six-hour, three-video compilation of tornado-chasing highlights, which he sells by mail order for $50. But because storm videos are aired so liberally on television these days, the direct-to-consumer tornado-video market—a once lucrative niche—has pretty well tanked. Leonard told me that so far he has sold "about four copies." When the subject of tornado cams came up, Leonard disappeared briefly into the back of a minivan, emerging with his version. In truth, the device is not all that impressive—it's really just a camera inside a waterproof housing of the sort used for underwater video photography. (It's particularly handy for filming hurricanes, Leonard pointed out.) His plan is correspondingly simple: "Just lay it out in front of a tornado" and hope somehow to find it later. This may be an overly optimistic strategy, given that items sucked up by tornadoes are often located great distances from where they started. (The longtime record is held by a canceled check that traveled 225 miles, from Stockton, Kansas, to Winnetoon, Nebraska, in 1915.) The other two storm chasers I met in the parking lot had given more thought to recovery plans. Dave Lewison, a mechanical engineer from upstate New York, worked with a friend last spring to weld together a sturdy tent-shaped steel structure containing a Lexan window three eighths of an inch thick—a contraption that looks like a Habitrail accessory for protecting gerbils in the event of nuclear war. The housing, which weighs about fifty pounds, contains an alarm attached to a trip wire, which is to be staked in the ground. "If the device decides to take off or whatever, it will make a really piercing noise for an hour or so," Lewison said. "Hopefully, that will make it a little easier to find." Lewison tapped on the window of the housing, to draw my attention to its strength. "Supposedly, it will stop a twenty-two," he said. It hadn't yet been tornado-tested, but earlier in the year Lewison had used a homemade potato gun to fire a spud at 160 mph directly at the Lexan-shielded lens. "It didn't do any damage," he reported. "And we got some pretty interesting video." The housing constructed by Mike Theiss, a storm chaser based in Key Largo, is lower and more aerodynamic than Lewison's. It consists mostly of heavy-gauge aluminum; a twenty-pound weight in the bottom compartment brings it to about sixty-five pounds. Theiss is currently soliciting corporate sponsors and hopes soon to add a $5,000 state-of-the-art GPS locator, of the sort used to track stolen automobiles. If this pans out, he'll remove the weight so that the camera can fly off and perhaps be wholly ingested by a tornado, which he believes would enhance the value of the footage even further. The community of storm chasers is, of necessity, highly nomadic, and it's impossible to know just how many other people with similar aspirations might have been congregating last spring in other parking lots throughout the Plains. But it's a reasonably safe bet that if any of them gets what Theiss calls "the money shot," it will be hard to watch television and not know about it. It's also a safe bet that once such footage is aired, the ante will rise again. Sitting at a Texas Panhandle bar a few days later, I was told by the lavishly bearded man next to me that a black SUV had recently passed through town, customized with interior roll bars and thick steel screens on all windows but the windshield. The driver's plan, he said, was to motor right up to the vortex of a tornado, with cameras running. Such risk-taking would be very foolish, we agreed. We agreed on another thing as well: it would certainly make for must-see TV. -------------------------------------- Paul Mirtschin - Ph 0414 658 174 Designer - Writer paul at nothingdesign.com.au www.nothingdesign.com.au "Fear the outdoors, it bites!" +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Torn pr0n Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:07:21 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2001/10/curtis.htm Didn't know they called storm videos that in the USA.... David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8iqO6F2H7v0XOYBIRAjDZAJoDBCQ0i1bBzzkmhRXsDODC8vSY3QCff3lc 1kmHK4HSmPyuWAsBzkRpJd0= =O6KG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "dann weatherhead" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: From www.theatlantic.com Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:29:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great article Paul!! Its quite interesting with the Americanisation of Australian culture that this trend for capturing severe weather is has not yet been tapped by the major networks/media organisations in Australia. I suppose the concept is in its infancy here, with the awareness of severe weather only slowly increasing in our community. The local American infrastructure is much more developed than our own, so i guess people come to expect thrilling footage with every severe weather event and turn on the TV anticpating this. However this is not the case in Australia as its not expected. But, with cable channels like Sky News, the prospect for this becomes possible. Anyone who saw the coverage of the bushfires, knows that the media is second only to the military when it comes to personel deployment of troops (camera operators, journo's etc) when the need is called for. dann ____________________________ Daniel Weatherhead weatherhead at ozemail.com.au Blaxland, NSW ============================ SYDNEY STORM CHASERS http://www.sydneystormchasers.com ============================ ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Mirtschin To: Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: aus-wx: From www.theatlantic.com > Norman, Oklahoma > > In search of the perfect storm > > The race for ever more sensational "torn porn" is on > > by Wayne Curtis > > ..... > > > The hazards faced by those attempting to shoot close-up video footage > of tornadoes cannot be overstated. Tornadoes can form suddenly and > with little warning, and photographers who turn down the wrong road at > the wrong time can find themselves discomfited by 200-mph winds > containing jagged bits of automobiles, sheets of razor-sharp aluminum > siding, and lancelike sections of splintered fence posts. > > Yet as anyone who watches television knows, the potential consequences > have not stanched the flow of tornado videos. Nothing, apparently, > boosts ratings like nature out of control, and in recent years blurry > scenes of tornadoes hoovering up subdivisions, livestock-filled barns, > and blue-sparking electric substations-examples of a genre sometimes > referred to as "torn porn"-have become a staple on broadcast and cable > networks. > > Supplying the tornado-video industry is a coterie of camera-toting > semi-professional storm chasers who converge on the Great Plains each > spring, during the height of tornado season. Many drive cars > elaborately accessorized with multiple antennae and inscrutable > meteorological devices; when they meet up at a parking lot, the > gathering can resemble a fleet of landlocked fishing trawlers. > Although some pursue storms for the sheer fun of it, a good many hope > to cover the cost of their obsession, and perhaps even to turn a small > profit, by selling footage to television documentarians, local news > outlets, or The Weather Channel. Chasers say that they typically earn > $20 to $50 for each second of video aired, although this can go as > high as $200 a second, depending on quality, quantity, and > exclusivity. > > One might assume that the ongoing film festival of tornado carnage > would translate into heady times for freelance storm videographers. > Surprisingly, that's not the case. Storm chasers who just a few years > ago could count on pocketing a few hundred dollars or more for a > well-composed, in-focus video of a twister are today uniformly gloomy > about their prospects. > > For one thing, supply now outstrips demand. What the televised videos > don't show is that the person shooting the scene is often just one of > a dozen or more photographers parked haphazardly along the side of the > same road, all shouting "Tornado on the ground!" and all getting > basically the same shot. > > What's more, the sorts of roadside videos historically obtained by the > semi-pros have fallen out of favor. "In the early 1990s producers > wanted steady tripod shots, smooth pans, artistic footage," says Greg > Stumpf, a meteorologist and an experienced storm chaser and > photographer. "Today they want the thrilling, shocking, Cops-like > video-handheld and all jerky, with the focus going in and out, and a > lot of screaming." This kind of footage is as often as not obtained by > camcorder-owning amateurs-storm chase-ees rather than chasers-who > impulsively grab their cameras as a tornado approaches and, through > either bravado or stupidity, shoot well past the time they should have > taken cover. (Aficionados often identify these clips by the incidental > comments made during the filming. Among the better-known amateur > videos are "Get Away From the Window!" and "God, I Hate Oklahoma.") > The amateurs tend to be honored to have their tapes run on TV and > often provide them to producers at no charge. > > The upshot of all of this is an effort among some veteran storm > videographers to get hard-core footage that amateur photographers > could not possibly stumble on. Footage, say, from inside a tornado's > vortex. Of course, no matter how motivated a storm chaser may be to > obtain such a shot, certain tactical and safety problems present > themselves. But what if one could deploy an impregnable video > system-in essence, a small, heavily fortified bunker containing a > running video camera-directly under a tornado? > > Norman, Oklahoma, is the home of the National Severe Storms Laboratory > and a favored layover spot for storm chasers waiting out lulls in bad > weather. I visited the town last May, because I had received reports > that several storm chasers had in fact developed military-strength > tornado cameras, and that a sort of small-scale space race to obtain > usable footage with them was under way. The reports weren't hard to > confirm. Wandering around the parking lot of my motel one sunny > morning, I came upon four storm chasers who had been crisscrossing the > Plains with their tornado cams in tow. > > Much of the inspiration for these would-be pioneers has come from the > tantalizing near success of one of the people I spoke with > there-Charles Edwards, an enterprising Oklahoman who built and > deployed the first tornado cam. (Edwards is also a groundbreaker in > storm tourism, and has been leading vans of waiver-signing tourists in > search of severe weather since 1996.) Edwards constructed a camera > housing out of fiberglass and lead; it was about the size and shape of > the portable gas tanks commonly used in boats with outboard motors, > and was painted the same bright orange, a color chosen to make the > device easier to find after a storm. > > In May of 1997 Edwards placed his camera in what he hoped would be the > path of an oncoming tornado outside Wichita, Kansas. He had planned > well: the tornado scored a direct hit. When he recovered the device, > the following day, the paint had been sandblasted clean off one side > of the housing, and the camera had been so badly mangled that it took > him three days to extract the videotape. > > The footage is spectacular-up to a point. A menacing if somewhat murky > wedge-shaped tornado vectors toward the camera, but at a critical > juncture-when the funnel is all but upon the camera-the storm's fierce > winds slop a thick coat of mud across the lens, fully obscuring the > tornado from view. (Edwards nevertheless sold the footage to a > producer for $8,000 and licensed the audio to a museum for use in a > facsimile storm shelter.) > > The following year Edwards built a new camera housing with several > refinements, which he described to me when not lamenting the day's > disappointingly pleasant weather. These included a recessed lens, a > mud trap, and a grenade-pin-style power switch; he added the switch > after debris from a tornado turned the camera off. Edwards has > deployed the new device four times, but each attempt was thwarted by a > technical glitch or a dissipating storm. > > Also in the parking lot was Jim Leonard, of the Florida Keys, who > assists Edwards on his storm tours and is one of the original auteurs > of storm video. Leonard has been chasing tornadoes, hurricanes, and > typhoons for twenty-eight years. He recently produced a six-hour, > three-video compilation of tornado-chasing highlights, which he sells > by mail order for $50. But because storm videos are aired so liberally > on television these days, the direct-to-consumer tornado-video > market-a once lucrative niche-has pretty well tanked. Leonard told me > that so far he has sold "about four copies." > > When the subject of tornado cams came up, Leonard disappeared briefly > into the back of a minivan, emerging with his version. In truth, the > device is not all that impressive-it's really just a camera inside a > waterproof housing of the sort used for underwater video photography. > (It's particularly handy for filming hurricanes, Leonard pointed out.) > His plan is correspondingly simple: "Just lay it out in front of a > tornado" and hope somehow to find it later. This may be an overly > optimistic strategy, given that items sucked up by tornadoes are often > located great distances from where they started. (The longtime record > is held by a canceled check that traveled 225 miles, from Stockton, > Kansas, to Winnetoon, Nebraska, in 1915.) > > The other two storm chasers I met in the parking lot had given more > thought to recovery plans. Dave Lewison, a mechanical engineer from > upstate New York, worked with a friend last spring to weld together a > sturdy tent-shaped steel structure containing a Lexan window three > eighths of an inch thick-a contraption that looks like a Habitrail > accessory for protecting gerbils in the event of nuclear war. The > housing, which weighs about fifty pounds, contains an alarm attached > to a trip wire, which is to be staked in the ground. "If the device > decides to take off or whatever, it will make a really piercing noise > for an hour or so," Lewison said. "Hopefully, that will make it a > little easier to find." > > Lewison tapped on the window of the housing, to draw my attention to > its strength. "Supposedly, it will stop a twenty-two," he said. It > hadn't yet been tornado-tested, but earlier in the year Lewison had > used a homemade potato gun to fire a spud at 160 mph directly at the > Lexan-shielded lens. "It didn't do any damage," he reported. "And we > got some pretty interesting video." > > The housing > constructed by Mike Theiss, a storm chaser based in Key Largo, is > lower and more aerodynamic than Lewison's. It consists mostly of > heavy-gauge aluminum; a twenty-pound weight in the bottom compartment > brings it to about sixty-five pounds. Theiss is currently soliciting > corporate sponsors and hopes soon to add a $5,000 state-of-the-art GPS > locator, of the sort used to track stolen automobiles. If this pans > out, he'll remove the weight so that the camera can fly off and > perhaps be wholly ingested by a tornado, which he believes would > enhance the value of the footage even further. > > The community of storm chasers is, of necessity, highly nomadic, and > it's impossible to know just how many other people with similar > aspirations might have been congregating last spring in other parking > lots throughout the Plains. But it's a reasonably safe bet that if any > of them gets what Theiss calls "the money shot," it will be hard to > watch television and not know about it. It's also a safe bet that once > such footage is aired, the ante will rise again. > > Sitting at a Texas Panhandle bar a few days later, I was told by the > lavishly bearded man next to me that a black SUV had recently passed > through town, customized with interior roll bars and thick steel > screens on all windows but the windshield. The driver's plan, he said, > was to motor right up to the vortex of a tornado, with cameras > running. > > Such risk-taking would be very foolish, we agreed. We agreed on > another thing as well: it would certainly make for must-see TV. > > -------------------------------------- > Paul Mirtschin - Ph 0414 658 174 > Designer - Writer > paul at nothingdesign.com.au > www.nothingdesign.com.au > > "Fear the outdoors, it bites!" > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:29:20 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: From www.theatlantic.com X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Isn't it amazing what these fellows will do for the perfect shot! I am in regular e-mail contact with Jim Leonard mentioned in the article. His web site at http://www.cyclonejim.com has some pretty amazing stuff. He records his first experience with a hurricane as Hurricane King, Oct. 17, 1950 at Miami when he was 8 months old! That's getting a bit keen to be "chasing". Actually, the storm chased him. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Paul Mirtschin To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 09:46:11 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: From www.theatlantic.com > Norman, Oklahoma > > In search of the perfect storm > > The race for ever more sensational "torn porn" is on > > by Wayne Curtis > > ...... > > > The hazards faced by those attempting to shoot close-up video footage > of tornadoes cannot be overstated. Tornadoes can form suddenly and > with little warning, and photographers who turn down the wrong road at > the wrong time can find themselves discomfited by 200-mph winds > containing jagged bits of automobiles, sheets of razor-sharp aluminum > siding, and lancelike sections of splintered fence posts. > > Yet as anyone who watches television knows, the potential consequences > have not stanched the flow of tornado videos. Nothing, apparently, > boosts ratings like nature out of control, and in recent years blurry > scenes of tornadoes hoovering up subdivisions, livestock-filled barns, > and blue-sparking electric substations—examples of a genre sometimes > referred to as "torn porn"—have become a staple on broadcast and cable > networks. > > Supplying the tornado-video industry is a coterie of camera-toting > semi-professional storm chasers who converge on the Great Plains each > spring, during the height of tornado season. Many drive cars > elaborately accessorized with multiple antennae and inscrutable > meteorological devices; when they meet up at a parking lot, the > gathering can resemble a fleet of landlocked fishing trawlers. > Although some pursue storms for the sheer fun of it, a good many hope > to cover the cost of their obsession, and perhaps even to turn a small > profit, by selling footage to television documentarians, local news > outlets, or The Weather Channel. Chasers say that they typically earn > $20 to $50 for each second of video aired, although this can go as > high as $200 a second, depending on quality, quantity, and > exclusivity. > > One might assume that the ongoing film festival of tornado carnage > would translate into heady times for freelance storm videographers. > Surprisingly, that's not the case. Storm chasers who just a few years > ago could count on pocketing a few hundred dollars or more for a > well-composed, in-focus video of a twister are today uniformly gloomy > about their prospects. > > For one thing, supply now outstrips demand. What the televised videos > don't show is that the person shooting the scene is often just one of > a dozen or more photographers parked haphazardly along the side of the > same road, all shouting "Tornado on the ground!" and all getting > basically the same shot. > > What's more, the sorts of roadside videos historically obtained by the > semi-pros have fallen out of favor. "In the early 1990s producers > wanted steady tripod shots, smooth pans, artistic footage," says Greg > Stumpf, a meteorologist and an experienced storm chaser and > photographer. "Today they want the thrilling, shocking, Cops-like > video—handheld and all jerky, with the focus going in and out, and a > lot of screaming." This kind of footage is as often as not obtained by > camcorder-owning amateurs—storm chase-ees rather than chasers—who > impulsively grab their cameras as a tornado approaches and, through > either bravado or stupidity, shoot well past the time they should have > taken cover. (Aficionados often identify these clips by the incidental > comments made during the filming. Among the better-known amateur > videos are "Get Away From the Window!" and "God, I Hate Oklahoma.") > The amateurs tend to be honored to have their tapes run on TV and > often provide them to producers at no charge. > > The upshot of all of this is an effort among some veteran storm > videographers to get hard-core footage that amateur photographers > could not possibly stumble on. Footage, say, from inside a tornado's > vortex. Of course, no matter how motivated a storm chaser may be to > obtain such a shot, certain tactical and safety problems present > themselves. But what if one could deploy an impregnable video > system—in essence, a small, heavily fortified bunker containing a > running video camera—directly under a tornado? > > Norman, Oklahoma, is the home of the National Severe Storms Laboratory > and a favored layover spot for storm chasers waiting out lulls in bad > weather. I visited the town last May, because I had received reports > that several storm chasers had in fact developed military-strength > tornado cameras, and that a sort of small-scale space race to obtain > usable footage with them was under way. The reports weren't hard to > confirm. Wandering around the parking lot of my motel one sunny > morning, I came upon four storm chasers who had been crisscrossing the > Plains with their tornado cams in tow. > > Much of the inspiration for these would-be pioneers has come from the > tantalizing near success of one of the people I spoke with > there—Charles Edwards, an enterprising Oklahoman who built and > deployed the first tornado cam. (Edwards is also a groundbreaker in > storm tourism, and has been leading vans of waiver-signing tourists in > search of severe weather since 1996.) Edwards constructed a camera > housing out of fiberglass and lead; it was about the size and shape of > the portable gas tanks commonly used in boats with outboard motors, > and was painted the same bright orange, a color chosen to make the > device easier to find after a storm. > > In May of 1997 Edwards placed his camera in what he hoped would be the > path of an oncoming tornado outside Wichita, Kansas. He had planned > well: the tornado scored a direct hit. When he recovered the device, > the following day, the paint had been sandblasted clean off one side > of the housing, and the camera had been so badly mangled that it took > him three days to extract the videotape. > > The footage is spectacular—up to a point. A menacing if somewhat murky > wedge-shaped tornado vectors toward the camera, but at a critical > juncture—when the funnel is all but upon the camera—the storm's fierce > winds slop a thick coat of mud across the lens, fully obscuring the > tornado from view. (Edwards nevertheless sold the footage to a > producer for $8,000 and licensed the audio to a museum for use in a > facsimile storm shelter.) > > The following year Edwards built a new camera housing with several > refinements, which he described to me when not lamenting the day's > disappointingly pleasant weather. These included a recessed lens, a > mud trap, and a grenade-pin-style power switch; he added the switch > after debris from a tornado turned the camera off. Edwards has > deployed the new device four times, but each attempt was thwarted by a > technical glitch or a dissipating storm. > > Also in the parking lot was Jim Leonard, of the Florida Keys, who > assists Edwards on his storm tours and is one of the original auteurs > of storm video. Leonard has been chasing tornadoes, hurricanes, and > typhoons for twenty-eight years. He recently produced a six-hour, > three-video compilation of tornado-chasing highlights, which he sells > by mail order for $50. But because storm videos are aired so liberally > on television these days, the direct-to-consumer tornado-video > market—a once lucrative niche—has pretty well tanked. Leonard told me > that so far he has sold "about four copies." > > When the subject of tornado cams came up, Leonard disappeared briefly > into the back of a minivan, emerging with his version. In truth, the > device is not all that impressive—it's really just a camera inside a > waterproof housing of the sort used for underwater video photography. > (It's particularly handy for filming hurricanes, Leonard pointed out.) > His plan is correspondingly simple: "Just lay it out in front of a > tornado" and hope somehow to find it later. This may be an overly > optimistic strategy, given that items sucked up by tornadoes are often > located great distances from where they started. (The longtime record > is held by a canceled check that traveled 225 miles, from Stockton, > Kansas, to Winnetoon, Nebraska, in 1915.) > > The other two storm chasers I met in the parking lot had given more > thought to recovery plans. Dave Lewison, a mechanical engineer from > upstate New York, worked with a friend last spring to weld together a > sturdy tent-shaped steel structure containing a Lexan window three > eighths of an inch thick—a contraption that looks like a Habitrail > accessory for protecting gerbils in the event of nuclear war. The > housing, which weighs about fifty pounds, contains an alarm attached > to a trip wire, which is to be staked in the ground. "If the device > decides to take off or whatever, it will make a really piercing noise > for an hour or so," Lewison said. "Hopefully, that will make it a > little easier to find." > > Lewison tapped on the window of the housing, to draw my attention to > its strength. "Supposedly, it will stop a twenty-two," he said. It > hadn't yet been tornado-tested, but earlier in the year Lewison had > used a homemade potato gun to fire a spud at 160 mph directly at the > Lexan-shielded lens. "It didn't do any damage," he reported. "And we > got some pretty interesting video." > > The housing > constructed by Mike Theiss, a storm chaser based in Key Largo, is > lower and more aerodynamic than Lewison's. It consists mostly of > heavy-gauge aluminum; a twenty-pound weight in the bottom compartment > brings it to about sixty-five pounds. Theiss is currently soliciting > corporate sponsors and hopes soon to add a $5,000 state-of-the-art GPS > locator, of the sort used to track stolen automobiles. If this pans > out, he'll remove the weight so that the camera can fly off and > perhaps be wholly ingested by a tornado, which he believes would > enhance the value of the footage even further. > > The community of storm chasers is, of necessity, highly nomadic, and > it's impossible to know just how many other people with similar > aspirations might have been congregating last spring in other parking > lots throughout the Plains. But it's a reasonably safe bet that if any > of them gets what Theiss calls "the money shot," it will be hard to > watch television and not know about it. It's also a safe bet that once > such footage is aired, the ante will rise again. > > Sitting at a Texas Panhandle bar a few days later, I was told by the > lavishly bearded man next to me that a black SUV had recently passed > through town, customized with interior roll bars and thick steel > screens on all windows but the windshield. The driver's plan, he said, > was to motor right up to the vortex of a tornado, with cameras > running. > > Such risk-taking would be very foolish, we agreed. We agreed on > another thing as well: it would certainly make for must-see TV. > > -------------------------------------- > Paul Mirtschin - Ph 0414 658 174 > Designer - Writer > paul at nothingdesign.com.au > www.nothingdesign.com.au > > "Fear the outdoors, it bites!" > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: From www.theatlantic.com Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:44:49 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:46, you wrote: > Norman, Oklahoma > > In search of the perfect storm > > The race for ever more sensational "torn porn" is on LOL. Why didn't I see this post before I posted mine :-). David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8iqyBF2H7v0XOYBIRApioAKDPe+xA94mdFf0BtrqtTkuiap2FiQCghsOh Sso4EPcg5dw5w1WJu3X4mbw= =H6ZU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew" To: Subject: aus-wx: Feb 15th Chase Report Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:31:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2002 06:30:29.0521 (UTC) FILETIME=[1290B010:01C1C7FD] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
Just a brief chase report with some pics from 15th Feb in Vic.  The squall line looked great on radar.  Check it out at....
 
 
Regards,
 
Andrew McDonald
(Macca-wx)
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:11:27 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: vic/qld reports Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great reading there Anthony/Macca! TDU2000 reading certainly bought back some great memories! Also I would like to thank Keith Barnett for putting on a great presentation at the ASWA meeting last night. Everyone enjoyed it, and found it extremely interesting! Matthew Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: aus-wx: 170 knot gusts !! I can't come to terms with this Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:58:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2002 08:57:13.0717 (UTC) FILETIME=[92466250:01C1C811] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all
 
TC Hary (905 hpa) is producing gusts of 170 kts !!!  I get blown away at 40 kts. Given that force quadruples with speed, this is truly incredible stuff. Hope not too much damage to Md'scar though - my thoughts are with you.
 
 
Regards
Simon
From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Dynamics of fronts & troughs Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:40:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, An impressive image of the pre-frontal trough & front tonight by CSIRO which I've saved here http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Mar02/0203100801csiro.gif which shows a meandering line of altocumulus (at a guess) extending from Tailem Bend to up past Lake Eyre. There is another from Warrnambool to Ouyen in Victoria. Are these pre-frontal troughs? (or even pre-trough-troughs?) or is the band closest to the trough a gravity wave? Looking for answers..... Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: ajax.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:33:27 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Dynamics of fronts & troughs (fwd) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Jane ONeill wrote: > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Mar02/0203100801csiro.gif which shows a > meandering line of altocumulus (at a guess) extending from Tailem Bend > to up past Lake Eyre. There is another from Warrnambool to Ouyen in > Victoria. Great image! I know that the stuff over in western Vic was from ordinary Cu, as shown here: http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/vicvisMar10-1740.gif (can just see the stuff in SA as appearing the same). The same cloud field appeared in the exact same location in Vic yesterday as well: http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/vicvisMar10-1740.gif Looking at the Vic AWS obs shows that in this region temps were around 30 with RH of 25-30%, slightly moister than surrounds. So, perhaps just a moister band of air in Vic explains that cloud pattern. Further to this, looking at the gmsd image shows a tongue of moister air arcing SWward from central NSW: http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/gmsdMar10-1740.jpg The one in SA seems to be due to slightly moister air being advected from the NW ahead of the trough. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: 170 knot gusts !! I can't come to terms with this Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:48:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
...... and if you go to the NRL Monterey page at http://kauai.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_home and go to 18S - Hary on the LHS then hold your mouse over the visible image on the
 
it says 898mb!!!!!!!
 
Blair, what's the record lowest pressure in the Southern Hemisphere, Indian Ocean to be exact?
 
Jane

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Melbourne Storm Chasers
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 7:58 PM
Subject: aus-wx: 170 knot gusts !! I can't come to terms with this

Hi all
 
TC Hary (905 hpa) is producing gusts of 170 kts !!!  I get blown away at 40 kts. Given that force quadruples with speed, this is truly incredible stuff. Hope not too much damage to Md'scar though - my thoughts are with you.
 
 
Regards
Simon
From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra Cb's 7/3/02 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:08:24 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Siimon I also saw them from Fyshwick but like you didn't havve a chance to do more than admire them1 Gavin SSWW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie weather" Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 1:50 AM Subject: aus-wx: Canberra Cb's 7/3/02 > Hi All, > Thursday evening i was witness to 2 of the most spectactular Cb's i have > seen over the ACT. > 2 Cb's about 30kms apart, 35000ft ++ Clear view, Fantastic structure and > colour from the setting sun, really thick Anvil on the Northern one and a > great updraft on the southern one. > > UNFORTUNATLY i was woking at the time and only saw them on my meal break, i > didn't take my Camera Either :( > > If any has Sydney 256km radar (and other stuff, Lightning tracker etc etc) > from 4pm onwards could you please them email it to me. > > ALSO for the Canberrians on the list, if you did have the oportunity to > photograph them if you could possibly email/send me the photos and i will > publish them on canberra-wx. > > Cheers > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Simon Angell > Canberra ACT > ICQ# 128920513 > www.canberra-wx.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This Message is Virus free, checked with > NORTON ANTIVIRUS 2000, file 3/3/02 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Lake Effects snow Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:20:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, I've put a collection of links on Lake Effects Snow on the Why Is It So????? page http://www.stormchasers.au.com/why.htm to go with the links about: 1999 Sydney hailstorm 1998 Sydney - Hobart Yacht Race Snowfall on Ayres Rock Tornadoes (collection of articles) Various papers on all sorts of things meteorological Tropical Meteorology Victorian information Vortexes & Fractals Stormchase 1998 (the precursor to ThunderDownUnder) There's a warning out for lake effects snow atm ... (from the text warning service of the NWS at http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/us/allwarnings.html ) URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE...RETRANSMITTED NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GAYLORD MI 458 PM EST SUN MAR 10 2002 .AS A POTENT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER HUDSON BAY SLOWLY MOVES AWAY FROM THE REGION...CONDITIONS WILL GRADUALLY IMPROVE. HOWEVER...SIGNIFICANT LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE EVENING DOWNWIND OF LAKES SUPERIOR AND MICHIGAN...WITH ADDITIONAL BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. THE SNOW SHOWERS AND WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO DIMINISH TOWARD MIDNIGHT. Enjoy...... -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:44:31 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: re My Website X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I wish to disagree with both of you on the highest town in Australia. Its a great many years since I have been there, but Hotham Heights in the Victorian Alps at over 6000 feet has to be just about the highest town in Oz. That is, I suppose, if you could call it a town. From memory there are about 30 or 40 houses and guest-houses there, a really decent concrete public dunny, and a service station where the petrol is hand- pumped from 44-gallon drums (no electricity - everyone there uses candles or hurricane lamps). There was no place to buy food though, if you didn't bring it with you. It must be about 25 or 30 years since I was last through there. Anyone got some more up-to-date details? Other settlements on the same road that are pretty high are Mount St Bernard (on the Harrietville side of the range) and Mother Johnsons (on the Omeo side), but I don't know the elevation of either of them. Of course three decades later there might be nothing at any of those places. At the beginning of the 70's I used to get a great kick out of chasing snowstorms and blizzards on my motorbike and sidecar up through that area. I must have been a bit of a nut when I was younger! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:01:01 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: re My Website > Hi Sam > I took a look at your site, very nice. However you state Guyra as the > Highest town in Australia, This however is untrue. Cabramurra is the > highest town in Australian at 1465 m above sea level. > > Cheers > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Simon Angell > Canberra ACT > ICQ# 128920513 > www.canberra-wx.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This Message is Virus free, checked with > NORTON ANTIVIRUS 2000, file 3/3/02 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: macdonald > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 8:43 PM > Subject: aus-wx: re My Website > > > Hey Tim, > I just looked at your website. It is very well set out. I was > particularly interested in the August 18th 1996 snowfall in the > Adeliade Hills. This cold outbreak reached Toowoomba which had a brief > 10 min snowfall on the 19th August 1996. > > I too recently made a website to cover the weather in Guyra in the > New England and Tallai, a rural suburb in the Gold Cosa hinterland. > http://www.geocities.com/ratman6900/index.html > It is has been so dry up this way. > > I'll be back to your website .. to check up dates > > cheers > Sam > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Winter quickening in SE QLD Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:03:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Summer certainly departed on cue at the end of Feb, it being decidely cooler, clearer and autumnal since. Brisbanites could well be excused reaching for the Doona and southerners should be rubbing their hands together with glee at the forthcoming cold front fest. Last nights min of 14.9C at Mt. Crosby is the first night below 15C this year and has occurred almost a month earlier than last year. Shiver. John. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Tina Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: re My Website Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:07:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Cabramurra wins, as it is a permanent town, has a school and a postoffice. Mind you I reckon Dinner Plain may give it a nudge now, as DP now has a school.. Falls Creek also has a school???? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 1:44 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: re My Website > I wish to disagree with both of you on the highest town in Australia. > Its a great many years since I have been there, but Hotham Heights in the > Victorian Alps at over 6000 feet has to be just about the highest town in > Oz. That is, I suppose, if you could call it a town. From memory there > are about 30 or 40 houses and guest-houses there, a really decent > concrete public dunny, and a service station where the petrol is hand- > pumped from 44-gallon drums (no electricity - everyone there uses candles > or hurricane lamps). There was no place to buy food though, if you > didn't bring it with you. > It must be about 25 or 30 years since I was last through there. Anyone > got some more up-to-date details? > Other settlements on the same road that are pretty high are Mount St > Bernard (on the Harrietville side of the range) and Mother Johnsons (on > the Omeo side), but I don't know the elevation of either of them. Of > course three decades later there might be nothing at any of those places. > > At the beginning of the 70's I used to get a great kick out of chasing > snowstorms and blizzards on my motorbike and sidecar up through that > area. I must have been a bit of a nut when I was younger! > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Simon Angell" > To: > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:01:01 +1100 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: re My Website > > > Hi Sam > > I took a look at your site, very nice. However you state Guyra as the > > Highest town in Australia, This however is untrue. Cabramurra is the > > highest town in Australian at 1465 m above sea level. > > > > Cheers > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Simon Angell > > Canberra ACT > > ICQ# 128920513 > > www.canberra-wx.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > This Message is Virus free, checked with > > NORTON ANTIVIRUS 2000, file 3/3/02 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: macdonald > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 8:43 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: re My Website > > > > > > Hey Tim, > > I just looked at your website. It is very well set out. I was > > particularly interested in the August 18th 1996 snowfall in the > > Adeliade Hills. This cold outbreak reached Toowoomba which had a brief > > 10 min snowfall on the 19th August 1996. > > > > I too recently made a website to cover the weather in Guyra in the > > New England and Tallai, a rural suburb in the Gold Cosa hinterland. > > http://www.geocities.com/ratman6900/index.html > > It is has been so dry up this way. > > > > I'll be back to your website .. to check up dates > > > > cheers > > Sam > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:41:39 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Winter quickening in SE QLD Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The mercury (well, LCD screen) dipped down to 17.1C at my place, woke up at 4am and went on a search for the winter blankets, only to be interupted by my mum who gave me a fright by saying "Get our winter blanket too thanks!" It has been noticably cooler and drier - the SE'lies are totally different to what they've been like recently. AC John Woodbridge wrote: > > Hi all, > > Summer certainly departed on cue at the end of Feb, it being decidely > cooler, clearer and autumnal since. Brisbanites could well be excused > reaching for the Doona and southerners should be rubbing their hands > together with glee at the forthcoming cold front fest. Last nights min of > 14.9C at Mt. Crosby is the first night below 15C this year and has occurred > almost a month earlier than last year. Shiver. > > John. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Weather P2P Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:28:39 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Anyone here interested in sharing weather videos via something like gnutella? http://gnutella.wego.com. That way the bandwidth load for publishing the videos online would be shared. It could be done in DivX format to make it look really good. Anyone interested? Thanks, David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8jE6XF2H7v0XOYBIRAlfLAJ0VpbnCSLuDHnMZZvPQN7d5vFDfDgCaAq2P GGttZw1ZfLNaOWtZmOpXPjk= =nJ1R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:48:54 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather P2P Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 04:28 PM 11/03/2002 +1000, you wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Anyone here interested in sharing weather videos via something like gnutella? >http://gnutella.wego.com. That way the bandwidth load for publishing the >videos online would be shared. It could be done in DivX format to make it >look really good. Anyone interested? Thanks, Good idea. I'd be willing to participate. BTW, what's involved in creating DivX format video? 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather P2P Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:05:15 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:48, you wrote: > At 04:28 PM 11/03/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >Anyone here interested in sharing weather videos via something like > > gnutella? http://gnutella.wego.com. That way the bandwidth load for > > publishing the videos online would be shared. It could be done in DivX > > format to make it look really good. Anyone interested? Thanks, > > Good idea. I'd be willing to participate. BTW, what's involved in > creating DivX format video? The details of DivX are here http://www.projectmayo.com Divx4 is the best at this time because it works on all platforms. What we may have to do is post filenames to here so people know what file to search for. Thanks, David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8jFcrF2H7v0XOYBIRAsexAJ9X2hPP9HOI+IJ2IzYR/H85u6AhbQCeMM4p f7q+BBb5iQWI65/0YXwdFAs= =fOUM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:53:04 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather P2P Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 05:05 PM 11/03/2002 +1000, you wrote: > > Good idea. I'd be willing to participate. BTW, what's involved in > > creating DivX format video? > >The details of DivX are here >http://www.projectmayo.com > >Divx4 is the best at this time because it works on all platforms. > >What we may have to do is post filenames to here so people know what file to >search for. Thanks, Thanks. Time to do a bit of reading. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "macdonald" To: Subject: aus-wx: Highest township Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:19:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
Cabramurra is highest settlement in Australia. Most of the families there work for the authority, which by the way owns the town and all of the structures in it, except the PO. School, Skie Lode and RSL Hostel. Amenities are more like a villiage General Store (with dinning ), Post Office, Service station,  Wet Canteen & Mess - meals avaliable toAuthority Personnel,external operators and contractors.
 
Where as Guyra with a population of around 1900, elevation 1325metres. Is the highest town in Australia. It has 3 schools. Guyra Central School has yrs 1-12 - elevation is around 1330metres.
Guyra's amenities:
3 accounting practices, Bowls Club (highest in Aust), Caravan Park (highest Aust), Auto repairs, Real estate agencies, Butchers, Child care centres, Supermarket, Car dealership, Restaurants, Churches, Hair/Beauty, Nureries, etc etc etc. This a town..
 
cheers
Sam
From: "Paul Yole" To: "Wx-Chase" , "Stormchase List" , "Storm Track" , "Australian Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: Norman office wins reputation for forecasting Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:23:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey all, Looking on the NewsOK.com website, and found this and though you all might like a read. I found it quite interesting: http://newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=832929&pic=none&TP=getarticle PaulY Paul and Kelley Yole EDD: 08/08/02 Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Winter quickening in SE QLD Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 02:13:37 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2002 15:11:36.0838 (UTC) FILETIME=[09C06260:01C1C90F] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
AC typed
 
The mercury (well, LCD screen) dipped down to 17.1C at my place, woke up
at 4am and went on a search for the winter blankets,
 
HUH
its been mins of 8C and under here in the last week...

Cheers
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Simon Angell
Canberra ACT
ICQ# 128920513
www.canberra-wx.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Cornelius" <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Winter quickening in SE QLD

> The mercury (well, LCD screen) dipped down to 17.1C at my place, woke up
> at 4am and went on a search for the winter blankets, only to be
> interupted by my mum who gave me a fright by saying "Get our winter
> blanket too thanks!"
>
> It has been noticably cooler and drier - the SE'lies are totally
> different to what they've been like recently.
>
> AC
>
> John Woodbridge wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Summer certainly departed on cue at the end of Feb, it being decidely
> > cooler, clearer and autumnal since.  Brisbanites could well be excused
> > reaching for the Doona and southerners should be rubbing their hands
> > together with glee at the forthcoming cold front fest.  Last nights min of
> > 14.9C at Mt. Crosby is the first night below 15C this year and has occurred
> > almost a month earlier than last year.  Shiver.
> >
> > John.
> >
> >  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> >  To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com
> >  with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your
> >  message.
> > 
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>
> --
> Anthony Cornelius
> Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the
> Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
> (07) 3390 4812
>
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From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Winter quickening in SE QLD Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:50:40 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2002 22:51:23.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[44B58270:01C1C94F] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Supercell. At 17c I cant sleep, with a minimum that high usually spend the night kicking off blankets!, last night was a good sleep night here in Leopold with a minimum of 7.1c and much colder over parts of western Vic. regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Cornelius To: Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Winter quickening in SE QLD > The mercury (well, LCD screen) dipped down to 17.1C at my place, woke up > at 4am and went on a search for the winter blankets, only to be > interupted by my mum who gave me a fright by saying "Get our winter > blanket too thanks!" > > It has been noticably cooler and drier - the SE'lies are totally > different to what they've been like recently. > > AC > > John Woodbridge wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Summer certainly departed on cue at the end of Feb, it being decidely > > cooler, clearer and autumnal since. Brisbanites could well be excused > > reaching for the Doona and southerners should be rubbing their hands > > together with glee at the forthcoming cold front fest. Last nights min of > > 14.9C at Mt. Crosby is the first night below 15C this year and has occurred > > almost a month earlier than last year. Shiver. > > > > John. > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Winter quickening in SE QLD To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:45:02 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My usual 'first harbinger of autumn' is the first night below 10 at Melbourne. The date of this has been remarkably consistent over the last five years, being between April 1 and April 3 in all five years. (Prior to this there had been only 6 instances of Marchs with no sub-10 minima, which says something about the combination of the urban heat island and climate change). The post-1970 median looks to be about March 20, but I haven't calculated it exactly. Occasionally there is a sub-10 in February (most recently in 1993), but this is getting pretty rare. As Clyve says, cold through western Victoria (and SE SA) last night, with plenty of 4s and a 3 at Keith West (SA). Blair > Hi Supercell. > At 17c I cant sleep, with a minimum that high usually spend the night > kicking off blankets!, last night was a good sleep night here in Leopold > with a minimum of 7.1c and much colder over parts of western Vic. regards > Clyve H. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anthony Cornelius > To: > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:41 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Winter quickening in SE QLD > > > > The mercury (well, LCD screen) dipped down to 17.1C at my place, woke up > > at 4am and went on a search for the winter blankets, only to be > > interupted by my mum who gave me a fright by saying "Get our winter > > blanket too thanks!" > > > > It has been noticably cooler and drier - the SE'lies are totally > > different to what they've been like recently. > > > > AC > > > > John Woodbridge wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Summer certainly departed on cue at the end of Feb, it being decidely > > > cooler, clearer and autumnal since. Brisbanites could well be excused > > > reaching for the Doona and southerners should be rubbing their hands > > > together with glee at the forthcoming cold front fest. Last nights min > of > > > 14.9C at Mt. Crosby is the first night below 15C this year and has > occurred > > > almost a month earlier than last year. Shiver. > > > > > > John. > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > (07) 3390 4812 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Tim Eckert To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [144.134.131.29] Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:21:04 +1000 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Winter quickening in SE QLD Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Pretty cold here again tonight. Got down to 4.8 at 7am this morning and already down to 8C at midnight tonight. Could get below 5 again. Not looking forward to my first winter down here in VIC! Tim Coleraine SW VIC Original message from: Blair Trewin > >My usual 'first harbinger of autumn' is the first night below 10 at >Melbourne. The date of this has been remarkably consistent over the >last five years, being between April 1 and April 3 in all five years. >(Prior to this there had been only 6 instances of Marchs with no sub-10 >minima, which says something about the combination of the urban heat >island and climate change). The post-1970 median looks to be about >March 20, but I haven't calculated it exactly. > >Occasionally there is a sub-10 in February (most recently in 1993), but >this is getting pretty rare. > >As Clyve says, cold through western Victoria (and SE SA) last night, >with plenty of 4s and a 3 at Keith West (SA). > >Blair > >> Hi Supercell. >> At 17c I cant sleep, with a minimum that high usually spend the night >> kicking off blankets!, last night was a good sleep night here in Leopold >> with a minimum of 7.1c and much colder over parts of western Vic. regards >> Clyve H. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Anthony Cornelius >> To: >> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:41 PM >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Winter quickening in SE QLD >> >> >> > The mercury (well, LCD screen) dipped down to 17.1C at my place, woke up >> > at 4am and went on a search for the winter blankets, only to be >> > interupted by my mum who gave me a fright by saying "Get our winter >> > blanket too thanks!" >> > >> > It has been noticably cooler and drier - the SE'lies are totally >> > different to what they've been like recently. >> > >> > AC >> > >> > John Woodbridge wrote: >> > > >> > > Hi all, >> > > >> > > Summer certainly departed on cue at the end of Feb, it being decidely >> > > cooler, clearer and autumnal since. Brisbanites could well be excused >> > > reaching for the Doona and southerners should be rubbing their hands >> > > together with glee at the forthcoming cold front fest. Last nights min >> of >> > > 14.9C at Mt. Crosby is the first night below 15C this year and has >> occurred >> > > almost a month earlier than last year. Shiver. >> > > >> > > John. >> > > >> > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + >> > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >> your >> > > message. >> > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - >> > >> > -- >> > Anthony Cornelius >> > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the >> > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) >> > (07) 3390 4812 >> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> > message. >> > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - >> > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - >. > __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Long wave trough Indian Ocean. Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:37:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2002 00:37:54.0864 (UTC) FILETIME=[50A57300:01C1CA27] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
An interesting long wave trough west of Western Australia extending to almost 15-12south and a rather broad pre upper north-westerly ahead of it, will be interesting if this upper system will draw any of the tropical moisture towards Aus over the next few days.   regards Clyve Herbert.
X-Originating-IP: [198.142.129.181] From: "Karl Lijnders" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Long wave trough Indian Ocean. Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:04:46 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2002 06:04:46.0503 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA181370:01C1CA54] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Developing rather quite nicely Clyve, could be interesting if a front can hook up with this poisture, could it mean a nice rain event for the southern coastline, particularly WA and SA? Karl :) >From: "Clyve Herbert" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: Long wave trough Indian Ocean. >Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:37:43 +1100 > >Hi all. >An interesting long wave trough west of Western Australia extending to >almost 15-12south and a rather broad pre upper north-westerly ahead of it, >will be interesting if this upper system will draw any of the tropical >moisture towards Aus over the next few days. regards Clyve Herbert. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: "Wx-Chase" , "Stormchase List" , "Storm Track" , "Australian Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: Researchers to take state by storm Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:04:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey All, Yet another one from the NewsOK website: http://www.newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=833896&pic=none&TP=getweather Wonder if they would allow an Aussie researcher to join (Hey, I dunno much about research, but I'll learn quick...LOL) PaulY Paul and Kelley Yole EDD: 08/08/02 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p9-max5.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.157.201] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:10:15 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Researchers to take state by storm Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul, I actually found that article interesting. I also feel that this is a good approach and should yield interesting results. Jimmy Deguara At 05:04 PM 13/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hey All, > >Yet another one from the NewsOK website: > >http://www.newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=833896&pic=none&TP=getweather > >Wonder if they would allow an Aussie researcher to join (Hey, I dunno much >about research, but I'll >learn quick...LOL) > >PaulY > >Paul and Kelley Yole >EDD: 08/08/02 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Models & variations Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:06:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, It's interesting to see how things are starting to become a little less certain atm & how the models are handling them.... I know there was discussion about the differing parameters & processing times for each of the models, but I can't track it down. Could someone give us a quick (if there are 'rules of thumb') rundown on the models please at the bottom of the Victorian Fire Weather forecast is this ....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMPUTER MODELS quite similar for tomorrow but differ on Friday when the UK model pushes a change across southern Victoria Friday night. The other models keep the fronts further south with a weak front moving through Bass Strait on Saturday. Due to how the models handle a cyclone over the Indian Ocean, has an influence on the pattern over SE Australia. Whilst most models have the high over the Tasman Sea on Sunday night [as forecast resembles], some models strengthen the high to the west for Sunday in which case temps will be lower and winds southerly [ another possible scenario]. Stay tuned for further updates! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Many thanks, Jane PS: keep an eye on the cold air field lurking behind the longwave trough that Clyve mentioned in the Indian Ocean - it's enormous & atm is reaching as far north as 30S!!! -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: "Wx-Chase" , "Tremain" , "Rita & Frank Veroude" , "Renae Bardell" , "Paul & Jasmine Brown" , "Neville Hiatt" , "Natalie Tschernysch" , "Max King" , "Marshall Jenny" , "Lisa" , "Kim Nett" , "Kristen" , "Kelley Mantia-Yole" , "Jacinta Ferguson" , "J Marshall" , "Emma Doherty" , "Darren and Sandie" , "Belinda Palmer" , "Australian Weather Mailing List" , "Adam Greenfield" Subject: aus-wx: Website finally up Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:50:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey all, Just though I'd let everyone know, Kelley and my website is FINALLY up (Yes, I know...I took my sweet time). Not everything is completed though (The aviation gallery and the chase reports) but I should have these up in a week or so. I'll also be adding to it constantly with anything new. If anyone wants a link thrown in, you can email me at this address. Apart from that, comments and suggestions can be sent to me as well. Other than that...enjoy http://www.lexicon.net/yolestorm/ Paul/Kelley EDD: 08/08/02 "I never knew what life meant, until I found that special person I had been looking for. Now she is blessing us with our little angel, all those nightmare memories from the past all seem to be a forgotten dream...I love you Kelley" - PaulY (2002) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p127-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.127] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:14:56 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Website finally up Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Paul, Congratulations in regards to the website and also Kelly!!!!! Great stuff. I was wondering why that overwhelming interest in the US. I bet you can't wait to get there and neither can I. Jimmy Deguara At 09:50 PM 13/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hey all, > >Just though I'd let everyone know, Kelley and my website is FINALLY up >(Yes, I know...I took my >sweet time). Not everything is completed though (The aviation gallery and >the chase reports) but I >should have these up in a week or so. I'll also be adding to it constantly >with anything new. > >If anyone wants a link thrown in, you can email me at this address. Apart >from that, comments and >suggestions can be sent to me as well. Other than that...enjoy > >http://www.lexicon.net/yolestorm/ > >Paul/Kelley >EDD: 08/08/02 > >"I never knew what life meant, until I found that special person I had >been looking for. Now she is >blessing us with our little angel, all those nightmare memories from the >past all seem to be a >forgotten dream...I love you Kelley" - PaulY (2002) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Weather instruments in Australia Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:33:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Davis Weather Stations as well as the Kestrel range of handheld weather instruments are now available on the internet in Australia. http://www.australianskynweather.com/ Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: The hunt for the perfect in-car video mount Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:08:16 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, I've tried the handheld video (I'm really good at videoing the roof), I've tried the 'tripod-on-the-front-seat-mount' (great for the 'feeling like you are really there shudder') & the Morganti mount (but my windscreen's too steep & the video camera doesn't fit) http://www.stormtrack.org/equip/feature/morganti_mount.html I've looked around all of the commercial sites for ideas, but I don't want to spend $300 & I already own a Manfrotto fitting that's worth $150 that I can't use......... Does anyone have a failsafe (cheap) & quick to use mounting idea?? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Dust storm footage Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 06:15:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anyone interested in responding to this? I'd be happy to put some images up if anyone has any handy. Jane . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I am trying to find some footage of the Melbourne dust storm of 1983 - any leads would be greatly appreciated. William William Spiers > The Weather > Room 5252 > BBC White City > London W12 7TS Tel: +44 (0)20 8752 6808 Mobile: +44 (0)7967 835 719 > Fax: +44 (0)208 752 6646 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aus Wx" Subject: aus-wx: maaaaybe a TC (or two) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:42:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The area near Noumea has been upgraded.... THE AREA OF CONVECTION PREVIOUSLY LOCATED NEAR 14.5S0 161.7E5 IS NOW LOCATED NEAR 16.7S4 160.7E4 APPROXIMATELY 450 NM NORTHWEST OF NOUMEA, NEW CALEDONIA. ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS ISOLATED DEEP, INCREASINGLY ORGANIZED, CONVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH A WEAK LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC). 200 MB ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT THE AREA IS UNDER WEAK VERTICAL WIND SHEAR AND MODERATE DIFFLUENCE ALOFT. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 20 TO 25 KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1003 MB. THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS UPGRADED TO FAIR. The area is starting to develop a 'TC-like signature' http://marlin.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/aushlast.gif Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 11:06:03 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The hunt for the perfect in-car video mount X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have recently seen police here experimenting with a video camera mounted on the top of their helmet which basically means that where you look is where you video. It's supposedly ideal for when they are right in the middle of a confused and noisy demonstration. Disadvantage for storm chasing would be having to wear a helmet while driving, although from some reports I have read over the years, maybe that wouldn't be so bad! Also, unless the storm were dead ahead, it may be rather risky looking at the storm instead of the road. The other idea I saw some years ago was the mount of one of those rear- view mirrors which are glued to the windscreen of some sports cars, mounted at the bottom of the windscreen and glued on upside down. It had been drilled out to allow a tripod-screw to be screwed into the bottom of the DV camera. This also would require the windscreen to be fairly upright or the video camera to be fairly small. I saw it in a Land Rover with an almost upright windscreen. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:08:16 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: The hunt for the perfect in-car video mount > Evening all, > > I've tried the handheld video (I'm really good at videoing the roof), > I've tried the 'tripod-on-the-front-seat-mount' (great for the 'feeling > like you are really there shudder') & the Morganti mount (but my > windscreen's too steep & the video camera doesn't fit) > http://www.stormtrack.org/equip/feature/morganti_mount.html > > I've looked around all of the commercial sites for ideas, but I don't > want to spend $300 & I already own a Manfrotto fitting that's worth > $150 > that I can't use......... > > Does anyone have a failsafe (cheap) & quick to use mounting idea?? > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Plenty Happening. Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:33:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2002 03:33:43.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A467B60:01C1CB09] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
The long wave trough west of WA is looking good this afternoon with the sub tropical jet dipping into the far tropics and scooping up some moisture, then throwing it southeast towards southwest WA.  A cold pool at 500hpa can be seen at about 30 south and near 105 east (eastern Indian Ocean) and this is the pivot area for vorticity. The cold air field to the south and west is impressive, infact the whole systems seems a little unusual for this time of the year. If the vorticity centre deepens over the next 12 hours this may aid in the transfer of moisture into WA worth keeping a close look at. Meanwhile, there is a positive area of convection north of New Caledonia with reasonable upper divergence the surface convergence seems a little on the weak side but this area is looking ok for further development. regards Clyve Herbert.
From: "Chris Daley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The hunt for the perfect in-car video mount Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:33:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If you don't mind stretching and marking your roof lining a bit, you could try something like the Morganti mount, but vertical, between the floor and the roof. Wouldn't be too hard to adapt the Manfrotto mount for the vertical instead of horizontal application and it would allow you more freedom of movement positioning it in the car. Chris. P.S. My e-mail address is now jindivik at optusnet.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:08 PM Subject: aus-wx: The hunt for the perfect in-car video mount > Evening all, > > I've tried the handheld video (I'm really good at videoing the roof), > I've tried the 'tripod-on-the-front-seat-mount' (great for the 'feeling > like you are really there shudder') & the Morganti mount (but my > windscreen's too steep & the video camera doesn't fit) > http://www.stormtrack.org/equip/feature/morganti_mount.html > > I've looked around all of the commercial sites for ideas, but I don't > want to spend $300 & I already own a Manfrotto fitting that's worth $150 > that I can't use......... > > Does anyone have a failsafe (cheap) & quick to use mounting idea?? > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: OT: Daytime fireball Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:39:42 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Just saw a fireball this afternoon at around 2 pm. It was in the northern sky, and went from about 50 degrees up, to the NNW disappearing around 10 degrees. Very very bright point like source, with almost a halo around it. Green with an orange trail. I didn't see any dust trail, but it was very fast and bright. I was driving at the time so didn't get a good view, but it was pretty cool. Anyone else see it? I was at Mango Hill north of Brisbane at the time. We can discuss this sort of thing can't we? After all it was in the sky, and they are called meteors. Thanks, David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8kEWuF2H7v0XOYBIRAjzLAKCMk3gxaAjBka0552IWW9cH1FyatgCgndya 3wsF5y3Cg7QCew4o4Up3QUI= =fipv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 15:19:11 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OT: Daytime fireball X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com And isn't it a fantastic sight! I saw one in Western Victoria in the 1950s which came complete with an incredibly loud sonic boom and dug a channel several hundred metres long on a farm about 10 miles North of me. On that occasion I was on the outskirts of Terang and looked South to see a light in the sky not moving, but growing rapidly in size and brightness and appearing to have bits flying out of it. It started to drift upwards and suddenly raced up and over the top of me and was then disappearing to the North. Only a second or so after it went overhead it disappeared over the horizon. The sonic boom came at about the time it passed over me. As it went over the top it was almost too fast to watch it but it appeared about the size of the full moon. It has to be the fastest moving object I ever watched. The papers the next day reported that it was a meteorite and the explosion it made when it hit the ground near Mortlake shook every house in the district. Unfortunately scientists were unable to find any parts of it remaining in the crater and channel that it dug. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:39:42 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: OT: Daytime fireball > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Just saw a fireball this afternoon at around 2 pm. It was in the > northern > sky, and went from about 50 degrees up, to the NNW disappearing around > 10 > degrees. Very very bright point like source, with almost a halo around > it. > Green with an orange trail. I didn't see any dust trail, but it was > very fast > and bright. I was driving at the time so didn't get a good view, but it > was > pretty cool. Anyone else see it? > > I was at Mango Hill north of Brisbane at the time. We can discuss this > sort > of thing can't we? After all it was in the sky, and they are called > meteors. > > Thanks, > > David > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE8kEWuF2H7v0XOYBIRAjzLAKCMk3gxaAjBka0552IWW9cH1FyatgCgndya > 3wsF5y3Cg7QCew4o4Up3QUI= > =fipv > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: maaaaybe a TC (or two) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:29:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2002 07:27:28.0771 (UTC) FILETIME=[B23FD530:01C1CB29] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jane Another SEward fate seems likely yet again, but yes I would expect a TC sometime tomorrow (maybe even late tonight). Regards Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aus Wx" Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:42 AM Subject: aus-wx: maaaaybe a TC (or two) > The area near Noumea has been upgraded.... > > THE AREA OF CONVECTION PREVIOUSLY LOCATED NEAR 14.5S0 161.7E5 IS NOW LOCATED > NEAR 16.7S4 160.7E4 APPROXIMATELY 450 NM NORTHWEST OF NOUMEA, NEW CALEDONIA. > ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS ISOLATED DEEP, INCREASINGLY > ORGANIZED, CONVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH A WEAK LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER > (LLCC). 200 MB ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT THE AREA IS UNDER WEAK VERTICAL WIND > SHEAR AND MODERATE DIFFLUENCE ALOFT. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE ESTIMATED > AT 20 TO 25 KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1003 > MB. THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE > WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS UPGRADED TO FAIR. > > The area is starting to develop a 'TC-like signature' > http://marlin.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/aushlast.gif > > Jane > --------------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > --------------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: aus-wx: An astonishing 21mm of rain overnight. Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:37:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2002 07:35:00.0843 (UTC) FILETIME=[BFB48BB0:01C1CB2A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all
 
Didn't expect to get quite so much last night in the SE'ers here in Cleveland (Bayside Brisbane), but 21 mm is better than any other SE Qld areas that I know of.
 
You may ask "why so much excitement?" - It is because lately I always seem to get the wooden spoon rainfall-wise.
 
 
Regards
Simon
 
 
From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Longwave trough Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:16:03 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, For those who haven't found this site, Matt Smith kindly reminded me of it just now, there's a great series of 5 images (6 hours apart) of the southern hemisphere.....worth having a look at with the approach of this long wave trough... http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/wavetrak/waves-pacsh.html Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: baygate.cth.com.au: Host modem008.cthisdn.cth.com.au [203.220.37.72] claimed to be zenith X-Sender: skerans at mail.cth.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:13:31 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Sel Kerans Subject: aus-wx: Worth a look - a line of vortices Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, One of the latest images at NASA Earth Observatory - a line of vortices in the Arctic: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=7781 I love this site - some cyclone/typhoon images there too just now. Regards from sunny funny QLD Sel Kerans ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sel Kerans Coordinator \|/ &&&&& Project Atmosphere Australia On-line -0- .--_|\ "/" WWW: http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa /|\ / \ \ Email: skerans at mail.cth.com.au \_.--\_/ v *** Now taking registrations from schools around the world *** *** On-line activities scheduled for March, April, May 2002 *** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: aus-wx: AMOS AGM Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:24:55 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
LIST MEMBERS CANBERRA re AMOS AGM
You might be interested in attending our AGM on Thursday 21 March at The Great Wall of China 113 Marcus Clarke Street Civvic Start 7.30 pm Cost $27.50 for a good meal and a good speaker Henry Nix.Non members are welcome For details on AMOS check out the web site.More details contact me or Clem Davis OIC BOM Canberra .As a foundation member I can recomend AMOS .
Gavin O'Brien SSWW
User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:52:32 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: The hunt for the perfect in-car video mount From: Intentional Server 1 To: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jane try making two small cushions type bags filled with polystyrene beads and feathers velcro the botom to the dash. the top cushion velcros to the bottom one and has a foam rubber surround (just like a camera case liner) that has velcro straps that wrap around the foam and the top cushion. Its not as steady as some professional mounts but it does absorb some road shock. We've used the idea on the bonnet of the car with the betacam and the results were acceptable. (also good for stuffing between gear to stop it rolling around in the back of the car) Other idea is to use vertical wires similar to display systems seen in real estate offices. Camera is attached using the proprietry rubber fittings and add small weights balance it to horizon if required. Road shock is absorbed by the wires and the rubber clamps and the camera tends to maintain horizon by the balance. - kind of a crude gyroscope principal. Brian Wilson > From: "Chris Daley" > Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:33:52 +1100 > To: > Subject: Re: aus-wx: The hunt for the perfect in-car video mount > > If you don't mind stretching and marking your roof lining a bit, you could > try something like the Morganti mount, but vertical, between the floor and > the roof. Wouldn't be too hard to adapt the Manfrotto mount for the > vertical instead of horizontal application and it would allow you more > freedom of movement positioning it in the car. > > Chris. > > P.S. My e-mail address is now jindivik at optusnet.com.au > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane ONeill" > To: "Aussie-wx" > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:08 PM > Subject: aus-wx: The hunt for the perfect in-car video mount > > >> Evening all, >> >> I've tried the handheld video (I'm really good at videoing the roof), >> I've tried the 'tripod-on-the-front-seat-mount' (great for the 'feeling >> like you are really there shudder') & the Morganti mount (but my >> windscreen's too steep & the video camera doesn't fit) >> http://www.stormtrack.org/equip/feature/morganti_mount.html >> >> I've looked around all of the commercial sites for ideas, but I don't >> want to spend $300 & I already own a Manfrotto fitting that's worth $150 >> that I can't use......... >> >> Does anyone have a failsafe (cheap) & quick to use mounting idea?? >> >> Jane >> >> -------------------------------- >> Jane ONeill - Melbourne >> cadence at stormchasers.au.com >> >> Melbourne Storm Chasers >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com >> >> ASWA - Victoria >> http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> -------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: An astonishing 21mm of rain overnight. Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:30:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Simon,
 
It must have been very isolated as I have not seen anything near it in your area.
On the subject of rainfall we have not had any since the big dump (oops not snow!)  on the 15th\16th of last month. Those persistant high pressure ridges are deflecting cold fronts away and the inland trough is very weak.Observed  smal cu/sc over the Ranges this afternoon but no precip despite the chance mentioned in bom's forecast.Looks like we are in a settled period so much a part of Autumn in Canberra.I will be watching that developing pattern west of WA could be interesting for us next week.
Gavin O'Brien SSWW Canberra
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:37 PM
Subject: aus-wx: An astonishing 21mm of rain overnight.

Hi all
 
Didn't expect to get quite so much last night in the SE'ers here in Cleveland (Bayside Brisbane), but 21 mm is better than any other SE Qld areas that I know of.
 
You may ask "why so much excitement?" - It is because lately I always seem to get the wooden spoon rainfall-wise.
 
 
Regards
Simon
 
 
X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:56:59 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: aus-wx: Football Tipping comp Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Kathy from austnet #weather has organised the 3rd football tipping comp on oztips, if you want to join, here are the details: >You are invited to join my AFL 2002 Footy tipping competition at OzTips.com >- Your Sports Tipping Headquarters online. > >Comp Number: 14185 >Comp Name: #weather Footy Competition >Password to join: supercell > >To join: >---------------- >1. Go to http://www.OzTips.com > >2. From the home page, select "I'm new and I want to tip", and setup a user >account (if you don't already have one on OzTips.com). > >3. Select "I want to join a Tipping Comp" on the home page, or the >"Tipping" tab. > >4. Enter the Comp Number and Password details above. > >5. That's it. Full instructions on how to tip can be found on the site by >clicking on the "Help" tab. > >Regards, >Kathryn Wall >astrolady99 at netscape.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Jones To: "old AUSSIE WX (aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com)" Subject: aus-wx: heat wave next week. Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:17:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm a bit rushed today, but thought it worth noting the flip-side of the approaching long-wave trough which is the enormous dome of HOT air edging south into the Great Australian Bight and toward SE Australia as I type.. Thickness values are already very high through much of southern Aus, as attested by the exceptionally warm conditions in Western Australia yesterday (40C Kalgoorlie - a near record for so late in season, Perth Ap 37C).. and should approach the high 560s/low 570s in much of SA, Vic, and NSW by Sunday. By Monday, the associated 850hPa temperatures in these same regions are "progged" to be in the 20s which in theory could trigger high 30s to even 40s temperatures. The models are relatively consistent in suggesting far south coastal parts will have condition tempered on all days but Monday by low level onshore flow. As for the front... I have a horrible feeling that this is going to turn into a fizzer... grrr... as the associated low pressure system quickly occludes and cold air advection on the western side of the long-wave trough dies away. Probably, our best chance for weather is thunder-storms with the front on Monday, though I expect this to be a rather dry front (like last Mondays), and possible follow-up frontal activity next week, beyond the accurate range of the models. DJ Dr David Jones Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: heat wave next week. Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:59:37 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2002 04:59:42.0187 (UTC) FILETIME=[37C43BB0:01C1CBDE] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello David and all.. Its not often that almost the whole of Australia is cloud free like today, I found the extent of this long wave trough approaching WA over the last two days very interesting, this cloud band is now contracting south-eastward towards the low south of WA and the upper cloud band is dissipating to the east of this low in strong upper divergence.There appears to be a very strong phase of upper subsidence over almost all of Australia at the moment, although this appears to be waning with the weakening of the surface anticyclone over the next two days. Another interesting observation are the rather colder than normal sea surface temps south of Victoria and through Bass Strait, this time last year were around 21 to 22c and only showing 17 to 18c for March 2002, it will be interesting to see what affect this will have on autumn min temps over the next few weeks especially in southern Vic. regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Jones To: Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:17 AM Subject: aus-wx: heat wave next week. > I'm a bit rushed today, but thought it worth noting the flip-side of the > approaching long-wave trough which is the enormous dome of HOT air edging > south into the Great Australian Bight and toward SE Australia as I type.. > > Thickness values are already very high through much of southern Aus, as > attested by the exceptionally warm conditions in Western Australia yesterday > (40C Kalgoorlie - a near record for so late in season, Perth Ap 37C).. and > should approach the high 560s/low 570s in much of SA, Vic, and NSW by > Sunday. By Monday, the associated 850hPa temperatures in these same regions > are "progged" to be in the 20s which in theory could trigger high 30s to > even 40s temperatures. > > The models are relatively consistent in suggesting far south coastal parts > will have condition tempered on all days but Monday by low level onshore > flow. > > As for the front... I have a horrible feeling that this is going to turn > into a fizzer... grrr... as the associated low pressure system quickly > occludes and cold air advection on the western side of the long-wave trough > dies away. Probably, our best chance for weather is thunder-storms with the > front on Monday, though I expect this to be a rather dry front (like last > Mondays), and possible follow-up frontal activity next week, beyond the > accurate range of the models. > > DJ > > Dr David Jones > > Climate Analysis Section > National Climate Centre > Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 > GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 > Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 > email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The hunt for the perfect in-car video mount Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:22:01 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I tried Chris Daley's idea & it worked a treat im my car because I already had the pole & fittings set up, I just rotated the whole thing 90 degrees & VOILA!!!! - and how incredibly simple!!!! Thanks Chris. Now those other ideas (like the bean bags) that have been coming might work well for NEW cars, like Ants' where you don't want to leave a mark!!!!! In my 7 year old 230,000km chase car, another mark won't hurt! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:52:20 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: The hunt for the perfect in-car video mount Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:22 PM 15/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: >I tried Chris Daley's idea & it worked a treat im my car because I >already had the pole & fittings set up, I just rotated the whole thing >90 degrees & VOILA!!!! - and how incredibly simple!!!! Thanks Chris. Good luck with it! :-) Looking forward to seeing the resulting shots. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Victorian weather photographers Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 19:03:01 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Afternoon all, I've updated the 'Amazing Images' page at http://www.stormchasers.au.com/vicimages.htm , having fixed Luke's & Paul's pics, added 2 new images from Clyve Herbert & have started finally captioning them from either photographers' suggestions, memory (or just a bit of artistic licence!!) And for those of you who are mightily impressed with the images of weather (severe and otherwise), take a look at Clyve's stunning image of weather at http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Mar02/2002ch01.JPG and you'll see what the Victorian photographers photograph when there's nothing severe going on..... Congratulations to all of the photographers!!...and if any Victorians have an image they think would be suitable, please send me a copy by email. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Blue jets from thunderstorms Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:49:25 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/03/13/blue.jet/index.html Anyone ever seen one of these? It seems like a worthy target of a night chase to me. You'd probably need to be way out bush to see one. I've read of strange plasma effects in the ionosphere being seen from the space shuttle above storms. These even seem to extend high into space. Looks very interesting anyway. Thanks, David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8kbWXF2H7v0XOYBIRAug4AJ43WcUzPHWwkyMVEmY6sh4JN3sqCgCgpvmt 0f6GaTwmJUh++i3AdYTAF/o= =DUHD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: An astonishing 21mm of rain overnight. Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:52:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2002 08:50:23.0966 (UTC) FILETIME=[721C17E0:01C1CBFE] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Gavin
 
Lytton was the nearest highest offical report on 14 mm (about 7 km north of here).  Again I was astonished, being the usual wooden spooner !
 
 
Regards
Simon
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: An astonishing 21mm of rain overnight.

Simon,
 
It must have been very isolated as I have not seen anything near it in your area.
On the subject of rainfall we have not had any since the big dump (oops not snow!)  on the 15th\16th of last month. Those persistant high pressure ridges are deflecting cold fronts away and the inland trough is very weak.Observed  smal cu/sc over the Ranges this afternoon but no precip despite the chance mentioned in bom's forecast.Looks like we are in a settled period so much a part of Autumn in Canberra.I will be watching that developing pattern west of WA could be interesting for us next week.
Gavin O'Brien SSWW Canberra
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Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:37 PM
Subject: aus-wx: An astonishing 21mm of rain overnight.

Hi all
 
Didn't expect to get quite so much last night in the SE'ers here in Cleveland (Bayside Brisbane), but 21 mm is better than any other SE Qld areas that I know of.
 
You may ask "why so much excitement?" - It is because lately I always seem to get the wooden spoon rainfall-wise.
 
 
Regards
Simon
 
 
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 20:31:06 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blue jets from thunderstorms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You would have better luck seeing ball lightning, than jets and sprites at ground level i think! Matt Smith David Findlay wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/03/13/blue.jet/index.html > > Anyone ever seen one of these? It seems like a worthy target of a night chase > to me. You'd probably need to be way out bush to see one. I've read of > strange plasma effects in the ionosphere being seen from the space shuttle > above storms. These even seem to extend high into space. Looks very > interesting anyway. Thanks, > > David > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE8kbWXF2H7v0XOYBIRAug4AJ43WcUzPHWwkyMVEmY6sh4JN3sqCgCgpvmt > 0f6GaTwmJUh++i3AdYTAF/o= > =DUHD > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: heat wave next week. Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 21:32:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The first week of the original 1998 storm chase saw most of Australia cloud free. I remember sitting at Armidale university looking at the sat pics of nothing. As you say a rare event. Last night the lightning tracker was free from any recent strikes over the continent. Michael > Its not often that almost the whole of Australia is cloud free like today, I > found the extent of this long wave trough approaching WA over the last two +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blue jets from thunderstorms Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 22:36:56 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2002 11:35:48.0573 (UTC) FILETIME=[8DA2F0D0:01C1CC15] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I saw this posted on Wz forum, but id though i would post a direct link to the Video.. http://www.nature.com/nsu/020311/images/jet.mpg <---Largest blue jet ever recorded http://www.nature.com/nsu/020311/020311-6.html <--And the full story Cheers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Simon Angell Canberra ACT ICQ# 128920513 www.canberra-wx.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This Message is Virus free, checked with NORTON ANTIVIRUS 2000, file 12/03/02 ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Smith" To: Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blue jets from thunderstorms > You would have better luck seeing ball lightning, than jets and sprites at ground > level i think! > > Matt Smith > > David Findlay wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/03/13/blue.jet/index.html > > > > Anyone ever seen one of these? It seems like a worthy target of a night chase > > to me. You'd probably need to be way out bush to see one. I've read of > > strange plasma effects in the ionosphere being seen from the space shuttle > > above storms. These even seem to extend high into space. Looks very > > interesting anyway. Thanks, > > > > David > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > > > iD8DBQE8kbWXF2H7v0XOYBIRAug4AJ43WcUzPHWwkyMVEmY6sh4JN3sqCgCgpvmt > > 0f6GaTwmJUh++i3AdYTAF/o= > > =DUHD > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p210-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.210] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 00:14:13 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We have heard of vapour trails, but have you heard of "missle trails"?? http://www.ethanangel.com/images/1.jpg from the following forum http://www.sport-fish-info.com/dcforum/dcpages/Main/8647.html#1 Cheers ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 05:56:15 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com wow jimmy, great find(the picture), i saved it. do you think those colours are natural or touched up, if they are natural then double wow. regards Thunda Hunta ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimmy Deguara To: Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails > We have heard of vapour trails, but have you heard of "missle trails"?? > > http://www.ethanangel.com/images/1.jpg > > from the following forum > > http://www.sport-fish-info.com/dcforum/dcpages/Main/8647.html#1 > > Cheers > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 06:11:34 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com i went back and had another look, a lot of complex twists and turms in there and todays modern missiles are capable of doing that but my money would be on a couple of jets playing dogfight. doesn't make it any less of a redhot pic. though. Thunda Hunta ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimmy Deguara To: Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails > We have heard of vapour trails, but have you heard of "missle trails"?? > > http://www.ethanangel.com/images/1.jpg > > from the following forum > > http://www.sport-fish-info.com/dcforum/dcpages/Main/8647.html#1 > > Cheers > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p210-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.210] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:42:36 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Richard, I didn't look too much into it - I just sent the links and suggestions that came from the person who sent the e-mail. I probably more favour jets too unless those who have read into missile and testing may like to enlighten us on them. It was just an e-mail that was sent through so I passed it on. I don't have much time to look into it. Jimmy Deguara At 06:11 AM 17/3/2002 +1030, you wrote: >i went back and had another look, a lot of complex twists and turms in there >and todays modern missiles are capable of doing that but my money would be >on a couple of jets playing dogfight. doesn't make it any less of a redhot >pic. though. > > Thunda Hunta >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jimmy Deguara >To: >Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 11:44 PM >Subject: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails > > > > We have heard of vapour trails, but have you heard of "missle trails"?? > > > > http://www.ethanangel.com/images/1.jpg > > > > from the following forum > > > > http://www.sport-fish-info.com/dcforum/dcpages/Main/8647.html#1 > > > > Cheers > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:28:47 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:42 AM 17/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hi Richard, > >I didn't look too much into it - I just sent the links and suggestions >that came from the person who sent the e-mail. I probably more favour jets >too unless those who have read into missile and testing may like to >enlighten us on them. It was just an e-mail that was sent through so I >passed it on. I don't have much time to look into it. Whatever made those trails, it was an amazing photo. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p210-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.210] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:44:44 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Actually, there were reports on the news of missile tests so perhaps it may have been missile tests - any comments from others? Jimmy Deguara At 12:28 PM 17/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >At 09:42 AM 17/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: > >>Hi Richard, >> >>I didn't look too much into it - I just sent the links and suggestions >>that came from the person who sent the e-mail. I probably more favour >>jets too unless those who have read into missile and testing may like to >>enlighten us on them. It was just an e-mail that was sent through so I >>passed it on. I don't have much time to look into it. > >Whatever made those trails, it was an amazing photo. :) > >73 de Tony, VK3JED >http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:04:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here is a report on the missile tests that were carried out Jimmy, if that assists :) Love Sha »§«,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.»§«,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.»§«,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.» §« US schedules sixth missile defence test 15:43 AEDST Thu 14 Mar 2002 AFP - A sixth US attempt to intercept a long-range missile with another missile has been scheduled for Friday over the Pacific in a slightly more ambitious test of a national missile defence system, the Pentagon said today. The Pentagon's Missile Defence Agency said in a statement that the target missile will carry three balloon decoys instead of one, making it somewhat more difficult than previous attempted intercepts. Three of five previous attempted intercepts have been successful, including the last two. Since declaring its intention to develop a broad range of sea, air, space and ground based missile defences, the Pentagon has changed the name of the program from the National Missile Defence system to the Ground-based Midcourse Defence system (GMD). But the GMD system remains the most advanced. It consists of a ground-based interceptor missile that is guided by space and ground-based radars into a collision course in space with an incoming warhead. In Friday's test, a long-range target missile will be fired over the Pacific from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. Early warning satellites and ground early warning radar will pick up the missile and relay data on its course through a computerised command centre in Colorado to a powerful X-band targeting radar on the Kwajalein Atoll in the Marshall Islands. About 20 minutes after the launch from Vandenberg, an interceptor missile will be fired from Kwajalein into the path of the dummy warhead released by the target missile. If all goes according to plan, a "kill vehicle" released by the interceptor will pick out the warhead from the decoys and manoeuvre itself into a pulverising collision. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/story_27507.asp ©AAP 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails Actually, there were reports on the news of missile tests so perhaps it may have been missile tests - any comments from others? Jimmy Deguara --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.333 / Virus Database: 187 - Release Date: 8/03/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: aus-wx: Fw: ASWA Meeting Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:29:37 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com thanks Kathryn, i wont be making that one. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathryn Wall To: Richard Modistach Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 9:47 AM Subject: ASWA Meeting > To Richard, > > The meeting that was supposed to be held last Friday night > ended up being cancelled. Martin I hope you got your voice mail > about the cancellation. > > After a couple of apologies, and knowing that the meeting had > to be wrapped up by 9ish, then myself not really feeling the best > either we decided to postpone it to this Friday night. > > Therefore the next ASWA meeting is this coming Friday (22nd) > starting at 7pm and the Rose Street Surgery in Glenelg (if okay with > Martin). Please let me know if you can/cannot make it. > > Thanks > > Kathryn > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Ice storm Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 22:07:56 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Amazing images of an icestorm & the aftermath (29th - 31st January, 2002) in Lawrence, Kansas by Mike Umscheid in particular...... http://www.grapevine.net/~mscheid/icestorm2002/2.jpg (interesting...only red & white cars????) http://www.grapevine.net/~mscheid/icestorm2002/3.jpg http://www.grapevine.net/~mscheid/icestorm2002/4.jpg http://www.grapevine.net/~mscheid/icestorm2002/8.jpg http://www.grapevine.net/~mscheid/icestorm2002/15.jpg The series runs from #1 to #57 & can be found at http://www.grapevine.net/~mscheid/icestorm2002/index2.html Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Webcams, weather stations & March weather in Victoria Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 22:13:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Have been doing a bit of surfing for links & added a number of webcams & private weather stations around Australia to http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm Still searching for a site on NT weather....anyone know of one or two? (Paul, Jacob..anyone??) ********* Vics, if you have any good shots of non-severe March weather so far & that you'd like to see up on MSC (I've got submissions from Robert, Clyve & Lindsay so far), please send them in & I'll put together a March 'non-severe' weather page (maybe that will help with our chances in the second half of the month!!) Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Long wave trough and tropo stuff. Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 22:36:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2002 11:36:25.0460 (UTC) FILETIME=[F872F340:01C1CDA7] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello starved weather watchers.
The long wave trough is presently moving through WA and weakening  but some mid level moisture seems to becoming drawn into and along the eastern pre upper trough axis, with a bit of luck some of this mid level aqua may reach western Vic ahead of the approaching trough and cold front due across south-eastern Aus on Monday. Meanwhile at the far northward extension of the 300hpa long wave trough there has been a reinvigorisation of the I.T.C.Z west of Australia ( some of the outflow is moving towards the Pilbura) this region may propagate eastward over the next several days and bring some much needed rain to top up the north Australian Monsoon season, a bit of a wish forecast but never mind keep your fingers crossed. regards Clyve H.
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 22:51:18 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com, "Aussie-wx" From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Webcams, weather stations & March weather in Victoria Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 10:13 PM 17/03/2002 +1100, Jane ONeill wrote: >Evening all, > >Have been doing a bit of surfing for links & added a number of webcams & >private weather stations around Australia to >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm Speaking of webcams, I have a plan to setup a mobile webcam, which will be fired up when the weather is right. The video can be tested, but I need some suggestions for good webcam software for Windows 2000, and a suitable webcam service (I can't host it myself, due to Optus AUP issues :( ). The full mobile version will depend on my getting my transmitter PA stages built (so I can communicate further than the back door! :) ). Once that's done, I will be able to position the camera in a clear location, or perhaps go mobile :). Probably about mid year (I do my building during the cooler months). The idea came to me after realising how little of the sky I can see from inside here. :( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Webcams, weather stations & March weather in Victoria Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 13:10:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com webcam32 can capture a picture every so many seconds (the timing can be set) and then ftps the file to a server automatically. --------------------- Glen O'Riley Computer Technician goriley at tsn.cc www.linx.iwarp.com -------------------- Storm Chaser Firefighter SES Volunteer CB Radio Monitor ------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: ; "Aussie-wx" Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 10:51 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Webcams, weather stations & March weather in Victoria > At 10:13 PM 17/03/2002 +1100, Jane ONeill wrote: > > >Evening all, > > > >Have been doing a bit of surfing for links & added a number of webcams & > >private weather stations around Australia to > >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm > > Speaking of webcams, I have a plan to setup a mobile webcam, which will be > fired up when the weather is right. The video can be tested, but I need > some suggestions for good webcam software for Windows 2000, and a suitable > webcam service (I can't host it myself, due to Optus AUP issues :( ). > > The full mobile version will depend on my getting my transmitter PA stages > built (so I can communicate further than the back door! :) ). Once that's > done, I will be able to position the camera in a clear location, or perhaps > go mobile :). Probably about mid year (I do my building during the cooler > months). > > The idea came to me after realising how little of the sky I can see from > inside here. :( > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:27:33 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian weather photographers X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Okay, I'll ask... Clyve's picture is really beautiful. But where is it and what is it? Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 19:03:01 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Victorian weather photographers > Afternoon all, > > I've updated the 'Amazing Images' page at > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/vicimages.htm , having fixed Luke's & > Paul's pics, added 2 new images from Clyve Herbert & have started > finally captioning them from either photographers' suggestions, memory > (or just a bit of artistic licence!!) > > And for those of you who are mightily impressed with the images of > weather (severe and otherwise), take a look at Clyve's stunning image > of > weather at http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Mar02/2002ch01.JPG and you'll > see what the Victorian photographers photograph when there's nothing > severe going on..... > > Congratulations to all of the photographers!!...and if any Victorians > have an image they think would be suitable, please send me a copy by > email. > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:17:22 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: re My Website X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dinner Plain had a school at least 30 years ago, because my mate was posted as headmaster there. Hotham Heights, if I remember correctly, was attempting to get an Education Department school about the beginning of the seventies, but although they had sufficient number of children living there, they couldn't satisfy the department that the population was stable and permanent enough to warrant the expense. Whether it ever got a school or not, it still must be the highest permanent settlement in Australia. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Tina Jones" To: Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:07:50 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: re My Website > Cabramurra wins, as it is a permanent town, has a school and a > postoffice. > > Mind you I reckon Dinner Plain may give it a nudge now, as DP now has a > school.. Falls Creek also has a school???? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 1:44 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: re My Website > > > > I wish to disagree with both of you on the highest town in Australia. > > Its a great many years since I have been there, but Hotham Heights in > the > > Victorian Alps at over 6000 feet has to be just about the highest > town in > > Oz. That is, I suppose, if you could call it a town. From memory > there > > are about 30 or 40 houses and guest-houses there, a really decent > > concrete public dunny, and a service station where the petrol is > hand- > > pumped from 44-gallon drums (no electricity - everyone there uses > candles > > or hurricane lamps). There was no place to buy food though, if you > > didn't bring it with you. > > It must be about 25 or 30 years since I was last through there. > Anyone > > got some more up-to-date details? > > Other settlements on the same road that are pretty high are Mount St > > Bernard (on the Harrietville side of the range) and Mother Johnsons > (on > > the Omeo side), but I don't know the elevation of either of them. Of > > course three decades later there might be nothing at any of those > places. > > > > At the beginning of the 70's I used to get a great kick out of > chasing > > snowstorms and blizzards on my motorbike and sidecar up through that > > area. I must have been a bit of a nut when I was younger! > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Simon Angell" > > To: > > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:01:01 +1100 > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: re My Website > > > > > Hi Sam > > > I took a look at your site, very nice. However you state Guyra as > the > > > Highest town in Australia, This however is untrue. Cabramurra is > the > > > highest town in Australian at 1465 m above sea level. > > > > > > Cheers > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Simon Angell > > > Canberra ACT > > > ICQ# 128920513 > > > www.canberra-wx.com > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > This Message is Virus free, checked with > > > NORTON ANTIVIRUS 2000, file 3/3/02 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: macdonald > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 8:43 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: re My Website > > > > > > > > > Hey Tim, > > > I just looked at your website. It is very well set out. I was > > > particularly interested in the August 18th 1996 snowfall in the > > > Adeliade Hills. This cold outbreak reached Toowoomba which had a > brief > > > 10 min snowfall on the 19th August 1996. > > > > > > I too recently made a website to cover the weather in Guyra in > the > > > New England and Tallai, a rural suburb in the Gold Cosa hinterland. > > > http://www.geocities.com/ratman6900/index.html > > > It is has been so dry up this way. > > > > > > I'll be back to your website .. to check up dates > > > > > > cheers > > > Sam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les Crossan" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:54:47 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That picture is of a rocket launch, i've seen it before, it's stratospheric. Best description is "noctilucent cloud" Les -- "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" - Anonymous == Les Crossan and Christine Challen, Wallsend, Tyne & Wear NE28 / 54-59N 01-30W les.crossan at blueyonder.co.uk christine.challen at blueyonder.co.uk www.uksevereweather.org.uk (includes the Wallsend StormCam) http://62.31.157.178:8000/listen.pls - ToRN at DiC causing a storm! ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 7:41 PM Subject: Fw: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails > i went back and had another look, a lot of complex twists and turms in there > and todays modern missiles are capable of doing that but my money would be > on a couple of jets playing dogfight. doesn't make it any less of a redhot > pic. though. > > Thunda Hunta > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jimmy Deguara > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 11:44 PM > Subject: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails > > > > We have heard of vapour trails, but have you heard of "missle trails"?? > > > > http://www.ethanangel.com/images/1.jpg > > > > from the following forum > > > > http://www.sport-fish-info.com/dcforum/dcpages/Main/8647.html#1 > > > > Cheers > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 14/03/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:54:38 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Webcams, weather stations & March weather in Victoria From: Intentional Server 1 To: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Tony have a look at some of the codec hardware avail that takes the digital packet and sends via any link mobile, landline, even VHF. Ours is configured for audio (for field news grabs etc) but there are video/audio configurations without going point to point microwave. The good thing about these digital codecs is that they are quick, less than 1/2 a second delay and we get broadcast quailty audio. Audio/Video results are not as good but we're experimenting with a similar thing (unrelated to weather) and there's some interesting stuff around. Depending on how you are set up at the camera end (ie vision out direct or maybe into a laptop,) there's probably some options. Try contacting AV Communications in Perth and speak with Garry Farmer. They have probably the best codec hardware around if you're looking for streaming/ high end quality and I'm sure they can point you in the right direction. If it's just the odd frame and a a few select grab, then the camera into the laptop & the mobile as the tx is probably the best for shoot/edit send, or a programmed shoot, grab and send at a predetermined interval. Watch the mobile bill though! There's also the fact that depending on the vision, there is a market so taking a punt on some good gear may be self funding (skies permitting). Als it means that the 'stormchaser' image is elevated when vision is supplied and used on air. (In fact has the association thought of a std contract and a source watermark?) Regards Brian Wilson > From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" > Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 22:51:18 +1100 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com, "Aussie-wx" > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Webcams, weather stations & March weather in Victoria > > At 10:13 PM 17/03/2002 +1100, Jane ONeill wrote: > >> Evening all, >> >> Have been doing a bit of surfing for links & added a number of webcams & >> private weather stations around Australia to >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm > > Speaking of webcams, I have a plan to setup a mobile webcam, which will be > fired up when the weather is right. The video can be tested, but I need > some suggestions for good webcam software for Windows 2000, and a suitable > webcam service (I can't host it myself, due to Optus AUP issues :( ). > > The full mobile version will depend on my getting my transmitter PA stages > built (so I can communicate further than the back door! :) ). Once that's > done, I will be able to position the camera in a clear location, or perhaps > go mobile :). Probably about mid year (I do my building during the cooler > months). > > The idea came to me after realising how little of the sky I can see from > inside here. :( > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Coronal Mass Ejection Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:07:14 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://www.spaceweather.com/ Possible aurora's tonight around midnight!! David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8lXYCF2H7v0XOYBIRAvscAJ9uvOM10DXXobAQVn1NsC6YTTKptACff8lH 8ZtNcQgkWBBL6v7FK6FFh5E= =Da1Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: duckman.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:39:55 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-X-Sender: robert at duckman.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coronal Mass Ejection Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Although, the forecast is for possible sightings _only_ as far north as the southern regions of New Zealand: http://www.spacew.com/www/midlatwchrpt.html On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, David Findlay wrote: > http://www.spaceweather.com/ > > Possible aurora's tonight around midnight!! Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Cool change Vic. Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:35:47 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2002 05:35:44.0868 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0106A40:01C1CE3E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
Pre frontal trough just past through Leopold  at 1625hrs dropping the temp from 34.4c and humidity of 17%!!! to 21.7c and humidity of 61% all this in 5 minutes, also some lightning west of Vic along the upper trough with some mid level moisture.
                regards Clyve H.
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian weather photographers Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:59:58 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2002 05:59:52.0165 (UTC) FILETIME=[1EB86950:01C1CE42] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Phil. The photo was taken at a location where I used to prepare electric suburban trains!. Its the old site of the Jolimont rail yards with half of it now used as the new federation park, during my lunch break I still occasionally wonder into this site with my camera. The photo is believe it or not of a 'bell sculpture' that actually plays tunes, all of them gong away at certain times of the day. On this day with not a cloud in the autumn Melbourne sky the shadows set up by the low sun and the sculpture looked spectacular and there you have it, to think I stood in this spot a few years ago cursing an old red rattler at 3am trying to get the pantograph pumped up and now to see a sculpture like this, what a contrast!. Incidentally the bells were also rattling as they gonged, a fitting tribute to more than a hundred years of trains that past that very spot. regards Clyve Herbert. I can still here the train Guards 'Ding,Ding' ringing in the cab for ok to depart!!!. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Smith To: Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian weather photographers > Okay, I'll ask... > Clyve's picture is really beautiful. But where is it and what is it? > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Jane ONeill" > To: "Aussie-wx" > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 19:03:01 +1100 > Subject: aus-wx: Victorian weather photographers > > > Afternoon all, > > > > I've updated the 'Amazing Images' page at > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/vicimages.htm , having fixed Luke's & > > Paul's pics, added 2 new images from Clyve Herbert & have started > > finally captioning them from either photographers' suggestions, memory > > (or just a bit of artistic licence!!) > > > > And for those of you who are mightily impressed with the images of > > weather (severe and otherwise), take a look at Clyve's stunning image > > of > > weather at http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Mar02/2002ch01.JPG and you'll > > see what the Victorian photographers photograph when there's nothing > > severe going on..... > > > > Congratulations to all of the photographers!!...and if any Victorians > > have an image they think would be suitable, please send me a copy by > > email. > > > > Jane > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > ASWA - Victoria > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: heat wave next week. Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:04:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2002 06:04:03.0924 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4C7C940:01C1CE42] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello David. Congratulations on your prediction from a few days ago in respect to very warm and dry air infecting the cold front just moving through central Vic today, the only hope is the presence of post frontal upper troughs and some limited mid level moisture presently kicking off a few weak high based storms over Kangaroo island. regards Clyve h. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Jones To: Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:17 AM Subject: aus-wx: heat wave next week. > I'm a bit rushed today, but thought it worth noting the flip-side of the > approaching long-wave trough which is the enormous dome of HOT air edging > south into the Great Australian Bight and toward SE Australia as I type.. > > Thickness values are already very high through much of southern Aus, as > attested by the exceptionally warm conditions in Western Australia yesterday > (40C Kalgoorlie - a near record for so late in season, Perth Ap 37C).. and > should approach the high 560s/low 570s in much of SA, Vic, and NSW by > Sunday. By Monday, the associated 850hPa temperatures in these same regions > are "progged" to be in the 20s which in theory could trigger high 30s to > even 40s temperatures. > > The models are relatively consistent in suggesting far south coastal parts > will have condition tempered on all days but Monday by low level onshore > flow. > > As for the front... I have a horrible feeling that this is going to turn > into a fizzer... grrr... as the associated low pressure system quickly > occludes and cold air advection on the western side of the long-wave trough > dies away. Probably, our best chance for weather is thunder-storms with the > front on Monday, though I expect this to be a rather dry front (like last > Mondays), and possible follow-up frontal activity next week, beyond the > accurate range of the models. > > DJ > > Dr David Jones > > Climate Analysis Section > National Climate Centre > Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 > GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 > Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 > email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:53:43 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Hi Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Should be some nice sunsets across vic today as that high clouds moves across this arvo keep the cameras handy :) Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:22:32 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Webcams, weather stations & March weather in Victoria Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 01:10 PM 18/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: >webcam32 can capture a picture every so many seconds (the timing can be set) >and then ftps the file to a server automatically. Do you have a URL? Might be a use for my free web space I haven't used. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:24:00 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cool change Vic. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 04:35 PM 18/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hi all. >Pre frontal trough just past through Leopold at 1625hrs dropping the temp >from 34.4c and humidity of 17%!!! to 21.7c and humidity of 61% all this in >5 minutes, also some lightning west of Vic along the upper trough with >some mid level moisture. Change hit NW suburbs around 1755 local time. Nothing of interest except for the temp/humidity change. Pre frontal conditions at Melb Airport (8km N of here) were 34C with 8% RH. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:21:58 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Webcams, weather stations & March weather in Victoria Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:54 AM 18/03/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Tony >have a look at some of the codec hardware avail that takes the digital >packet and sends via any link mobile, landline, even VHF. Ours is configured >for audio (for field news grabs etc) but there are video/audio >configurations without going point to point microwave. The good thing about >these digital codecs is that they are quick, less than 1/2 a second delay >and we get broadcast quailty audio. > >Audio/Video results are not as good but we're experimenting with a similar >thing (unrelated to weather) and there's some interesting stuff around. Prob there is this sort of hardware tends to cost big bucks. I can do a direct ATV link back to the PC for relatively little incremental cost. Audio/video codecs are wonderful, but I'm not impressed with the price of hardware. :-( >There's also the fact that depending on the vision, there is a market so >taking a punt on some good gear may be self funding (skies permitting). Als >it means that the 'stormchaser' image is elevated when vision is supplied >and used on air. (In fact has the association thought of a std contract and >a source watermark?) Well, the link back will be basically broadcast standard video (though FM, instead of the usual VSB/AM that normal telly uses). And I have a video recorder in my chain to record pics. :-) At this stage, it's not so much "serious chasing", more of a little tinkering I'm considering on the side, because I'll have the gear to do it. :-) If I could guarantee chasing time (hardly likely in my current circumstances), I'd consider throwing more money into the idea. ATM, it's merely an offshoot of my ham radio plans, and therefore very little incremental cost. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Webcams, weather stations & March weather in Victoria Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:38:15 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Will look when I get a moment and get back to you --------------------- Glen O'Riley Computer Technician goriley at tsn.cc www.linx.iwarp.com -------------------- Storm Chaser Firefighter SES Volunteer CB Radio Monitor ------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:22 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Webcams, weather stations & March weather in Victoria > At 01:10 PM 18/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: > > >webcam32 can capture a picture every so many seconds (the timing can be set) > >and then ftps the file to a server automatically. > > Do you have a URL? > > Might be a use for my free web space I haven't used. :) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:09:35 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A ROCKET LAUNCH????!!!!! , sorry les i can't come at that one, unless the rocket went completley beserk before orbit. my money's still on dogfighting jets. ----- Original Message ----- From: Les Crossan To: Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:24 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails > That picture is of a rocket launch, i've seen it before, it's stratospheric. > > Best description is "noctilucent cloud" > > Les > -- > "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" - Anonymous > == > Les Crossan and Christine Challen, > Wallsend, Tyne & Wear NE28 / 54-59N 01-30W > les.crossan at blueyonder.co.uk > christine.challen at blueyonder.co.uk > > www.uksevereweather.org.uk (includes the Wallsend StormCam) > http://62.31.157.178:8000/listen.pls - ToRN at DiC causing a storm! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "richard modistach" > To: "weather mailing list" > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 7:41 PM > Subject: Fw: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails > > > > i went back and had another look, a lot of complex twists and turms in > there > > and todays modern missiles are capable of doing that but my money would be > > on a couple of jets playing dogfight. doesn't make it any less of a redhot > > pic. though. > > > > Thunda Hunta > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jimmy Deguara > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 11:44 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails > > > > > > > We have heard of vapour trails, but have you heard of "missle trails"?? > > > > > > http://www.ethanangel.com/images/1.jpg > > > > > > from the following forum > > > > > > http://www.sport-fish-info.com/dcforum/dcpages/Main/8647.html#1 > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > > > from > > > Schofields, Sydney > > > NSW Australia > > > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 14/03/2002 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: duckman.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 20:57:20 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-X-Sender: robert at duckman.maths.monash.edu.au To: weather mailing list Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yep, Les is correct. See here for more info: http://la.znet.com/~schester/fallbrook/views/missile_contrails.html and the attached photo: http://la.znet.com/~schester/fallbrook/views/contrail_picture.html The irregular patterns are simply due to winds blowing at different speeds in the atmosphere going all the way up to ~100km+ On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, richard modistach wrote: > A ROCKET LAUNCH????!!!!! , sorry les i can't come at that one, unless the > rocket went completley beserk before orbit. my money's still on dogfighting > jets. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Les Crossan > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:24 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails > > > > That picture is of a rocket launch, i've seen it before, it's > stratospheric. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p39-max5.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.157.231] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:10:01 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Les and Robert. Thanks for the clarification - that was the sort of evidence I was looking for in an explanation. I didn't know how to make up my mind at first. Jimmy Deguara At 08:57 PM 18/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Yep, Les is correct. See here for more info: >http://la.znet.com/~schester/fallbrook/views/missile_contrails.html > >and the attached photo: >http://la.znet.com/~schester/fallbrook/views/contrail_picture.html > >The irregular patterns are simply due to winds blowing at different speeds >in the atmosphere going all the way up to ~100km+ > > >On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, richard modistach wrote: > > > A ROCKET LAUNCH????!!!!! , sorry les i can't come at that one, unless the > > rocket went completley beserk before orbit. my money's still on dogfighting > > jets. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Les Crossan > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:24 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails > > > > > > > That picture is of a rocket launch, i've seen it before, it's > > stratospheric. > > >Cheers > >-- > >Robert A. Goler > >School of Mathematical Sciences >PO Box 28M >Monash University >Clayton, Vic 3800 >Australia > >ph. +61 3 9905 4424 >email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > >-- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: duckman.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:31:53 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-X-Sender: robert at duckman.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hi Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Matthew Smith wrote: > Should be some nice sunsets across vic today as that high clouds moves > across this arvo > As it turned out, there was too much low-level haze from the cool change which blocked out the sun as it set. Here are some images from the sunset on Saturday, though, which produced a sun dog. http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2002_03_16/today.html Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: Fw: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:11:21 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com far out, thats really eerie Thunda Hunta p.s. looks like i done me dough ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Goler To: weather mailing list Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 8:27 PM Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails > > Yep, Les is correct. See here for more info: > http://la.znet.com/~schester/fallbrook/views/missile_contrails.html > > and the attached photo: > http://la.znet.com/~schester/fallbrook/views/contrail_picture.html > > The irregular patterns are simply due to winds blowing at different speeds > in the atmosphere going all the way up to ~100km+ > > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, richard modistach wrote: > > > A ROCKET LAUNCH????!!!!! , sorry les i can't come at that one, unless the > > rocket went completley beserk before orbit. my money's still on dogfighting > > jets. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Les Crossan > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:24 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: We have heard of vapour trails > > > > > > > That picture is of a rocket launch, i've seen it before, it's > > stratospheric. > > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > School of Mathematical Sciences > PO Box 28M > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:42:38 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List Subject: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Does anyone have any thoughts on thunderstorm potential in SE QLD/NE NSW this Wed/Thurs? The trough looks like it will slow down as it reaches NE NSW/SE QLD - which could be good, as it'll be in time for a weak upper trough to move through. Most of the colder air will be positioned to the south, but AVN is suggesting 500mb temps of around -10 on Wed/Thurs, which although is relatively warm isn't too bad. I think the main problem will be surface moisture, however this evening is encouraging. DPs are generally the same tonight as they were last night, however there's a bit of low level Stratocu coming in on the seabreeze which means the moisture thickness is a bit deeper (yay!!!) The moisture depth should improve a little over the next few days as a low level easterly flow becomes more estalished over a surface easterly (well, NE) and low level westerlies mixing through. The other thing is the positioning of the trough...a little far on Wednesday, looks substantially better for NE NSW - but Thursday sees a SE change creeping up the coast with NE'lies ahead of them and some additional upper support from the south pushing northwards a bit. On Wednesday, (moisture pending - which I think will be adequete, well hope!) we should see some border range thunderies, and maybe even something on the Downs (I can chase in my new car which will be three days old on Wednesday!!!) NE NSW is better, both with the positioning of the trough and instability. -4 to -6 LIs for NE NSW, dropping to -2 to -4 in the southern Downs and border ranges, and 0 to -2 in the remainder. And shear...ummm, well - you don't reallllllly want to look at shear....10 knots or below until 300mb when it gets to a whopping 30knots (excuse sarcasm!) If there are storms they won't be moving much, so Brisbane won't have a great chance unless shear is a lot better than that - anything would most probably sit on/near the ranges. Thursday has the best instability in the far NE of NE NSW, with -4 to -6, and then a good chunk of SE QLD under -2 to -4, so not bad. Shear profile sees southerlies at 850mb which is a little wierd (well, not what I was expecting anyway). Shear on Thursday...well, you might have asked yourself on Wednesday "Geez, could you get a worse shear profile than below 10 knots until 300mb where it's 30 knots?" And the answer would be "Yes, have a look at the following day" - below 10 knots until 300mb when it's 15 knots!!! 850 temps will also be quite high (around 19C), almost too warm (cap problem). But I guess we'll see. I think we should at least see a storm on Wed/Thurs - but interested to hear other people's opinions! There was some dry CJs on the ranges today. Currently 25/23 here, very humid! 22/17 in Toowoomba, I wonder if the DP can maintain itself, then I might be able to make use of my fog lights on the new car too! :) -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.49.99.153] From: "Karl Lijnders" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hi Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:09:17 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2002 22:09:17.0361 (UTC) FILETIME=[8BE0FA10:01C1CEC9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Fantastic shot there Robert. Karl :D >From: Robert Goler >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hi >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:31:53 +1100 (EST) > >On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Matthew Smith wrote: > > > Should be some nice sunsets across vic today as that high clouds moves > > across this arvo > > > >As it turned out, there was too much low-level haze from the cool change >which blocked out the sun as it set. Here are some images from the sunset >on Saturday, though, which produced a sun dog. > >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2002_03_16/today.html > > >Cheers > >-- > >Robert A. Goler > >School of Mathematical Sciences >PO Box 28M >Monash University >Clayton, Vic 3800 >Australia > >ph. +61 3 9905 4424 >email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > >-- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Clearing edge, Vic. Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:30:41 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2002 23:30:31.0973 (UTC) FILETIME=[E55FBD50:01C1CED4] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all and supercell.
The clearing edge of yesterday's trough has just past through west central Vic this morning, however for those interested there is some very nice banded alto cumulus castellanus along the south-western edge of the upper clearing cirrus band northwest of Melbourne, this upper instability may see a few wayward storms later today in north or north-eastern Vic. Hi Anthony how is your new Subacell must be very exciting to be chafing at the bit waiting for something to chase in your new pursuit vehicle!, yep it does look better up your way on Thursday with the strengthening high in the Tasman pumping some additional moisture onto your area, upper winds at 300hpa were close to 80knotts here in Vic yesterday but the trough is now becoming meridional especially at the surface over NSW, in respect to upper temps almost all of Australia between 850 and 300 have been remarkably warm over the past week or so and only slow change looks to be happening with still a lot of warm air over the interior. best wishes and good luck with your new chase wheels. Clyve H.
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:56:00 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hi X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great capture of the sun dog. Now, can anyone tell me why they are called "sun dogs"? Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Robert Goler To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:31:53 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hi > On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Matthew Smith wrote: > > > Should be some nice sunsets across vic today as that high clouds > moves > > across this arvo > > > > As it turned out, there was too much low-level haze from the cool > change > which blocked out the sun as it set. Here are some images from the > sunset > on Saturday, though, which produced a sun dog. > > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2002_03_16/today.html > > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > School of Mathematical Sciences > PO Box 28M > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: duckman.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 15:34:38 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-X-Sender: robert at duckman.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hi Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Phil Smith wrote: > Great capture of the sun dog. Now, can anyone tell me why they are > called "sun dogs"? I thought perhaps because they follow the sun, and searching on the net reveals this: http://www.weatherwise.org/qr/qry.01sundog.html Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: tropo discussion Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:19:41 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2002 05:19:33.0628 (UTC) FILETIME=[A792B3C0:01C1CF05] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all tropo,s
Seems to be a bit of a build up of moisture over Cape York area  with an interesting although small region of surface vorticity just east of Cooktown, upper outflow is weak, this area of activity can be traced far to the east with a narrow band of storms. Also there is a large area of strong upper divergence well northeast of Fiji seems to moving slowly westward, the surface convergence is rather disorganised at the moment. There seems to have been a marked change in upper directional shear (above 300hpa) from the usual easterlies to a weak north-westerly northwest of Australia over Indonesia is it possible that the present weakening long wave trough over Australia extends its influence this far north?.
regards Clyve Herbert.
X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p39-max5.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.157.231] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:32:24 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hi Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert and all, Fantastic pics and thanks for bringing up the subject. Here are some of the halos from the past http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/halo01.htm I was never particularly overly interested in halos but since you brought up the term sundog, I was just wondering if people could tell me what the sundog is? Is it the halo produced by the sun or specifically the secondary halo in these pictures? http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/0423jd01.jpg http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/0423jd02.jpg http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/0423jd03.jpg In other words, there is a secondary arc which is different from the direct halo related to the sun. Somebody was pointing to these photos as a sundog or maybe they thought the others were? Jimmy Deguara At 09:31 PM 18/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Matthew Smith wrote: > > > Should be some nice sunsets across vic today as that high clouds moves > > across this arvo > > > >As it turned out, there was too much low-level haze from the cool change >which blocked out the sun as it set. Here are some images from the sunset >on Saturday, though, which produced a sun dog. > >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2002_03_16/today.html > > >Cheers > >-- > >Robert A. Goler > >School of Mathematical Sciences >PO Box 28M >Monash University >Clayton, Vic 3800 >Australia > >ph. +61 3 9905 4424 >email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > >-- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: tropo discussion Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:04:41 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2002 06:04:41.0637 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5AC1550:01C1CF0B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

G'day Clyve et al - nothing scientific about my prognostications.  Wonder (=hope) about the possibility of some more tropical activity to follow shortly upon this late season blast of heat.  The ITCZ cupboard looks bare at the moment, but we can but hope (=dream)!

>From: "Clyve Herbert"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: aus-wx: tropo discussion
>Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:19:41 +1100
>
>Hi all tropo,s
>Seems to be a bit of a build up of moisture over Cape York area with an interesting although small region of surface vorticity just east of Cooktown, upper outflow is weak, this area of activity can be traced far to the east with a narrow band of storms. Also there is a large area of strong upper divergence well northeast of Fiji seems to moving slowly westward, the surface convergence is rather disorganised at the moment. There seems to have been a marked change in upper directional shear (above 300hpa) from the usual easterlies to a weak north-westerly northwest of Australia over Indonesia is it possible that the present weakening long wave trough over Australia extends its influence this far north?.
>regards Clyve Herbert.


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From: "Glen O'Riley" To: "Weather List Aussie" Subject: aus-wx: 2Mhz sounds Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:39:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Can hear some storms coming through on 2mhz, so just pulling uip radar now, it is not too close though as it is still 53c here near taree and there is no static on 26-29mhz.
 
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X-Authentication-Warning: duckman.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:58:25 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-X-Sender: robert at duckman.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hi Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Jimmy Deguara wrote: > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/halo01.htm Great pics Jimmy!! > what is the sundog? The sundog (also called parhelia) refers to the two bright spots of light at the same elevation as the sun, on the 22 degree halo. These are shown in your thumbnail images: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/thumbs/1998/0226mb01.jpg http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/thumbs/1998/0226mb02.jpg Basically the sundog is the point of intersection of the 22 degree halo and the parhelic circle. The 22 degree halo encircles the sun, at a distance of 22 degrees (not surprisingly). The parhelic circle is parallel to the horizon at the same elevation of the sun. (see http://www.meteoros.de/ee13ee18/ee13_b.htm) Pictures are worth a thousand words, and here is a schematic describing what I just mentioned, along with a few other things: http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/halo.jpg A great site to see more images of atmospheric optical phenomenon (including a computer program to generate your own) is here: http://www.meteoros.de/indexe.htm > In other words, there is a secondary arc which is different from the direct > halo related to the sun. Somebody was pointing to these photos as a sundog > or maybe they thought the others were? Unfortunately, I couldn't judge the orientation of those arcs relative to the sun/horizon, and so I'm not sure what they are. Perhaps part of the parhelic circle?? Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:54:53 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 2Mhz sounds Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Couple of weak storms around the Hunter.

Matt Smith

Glen O'Riley wrote:

Can hear some storms coming through on 2mhz, so just pulling uip radar now, it is not too close though as it is still 53c here near taree and there is no static on 26-29mhz. Tony-VK3??? can you give me a private email please, I want to talk to you about some things down around 180-80m.--------------------- Glen O'Riley
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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:59:23 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hi X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The three pictures you draw attention to don't look much like sun dogs to me. 0611jd01, 0226mb01, 0226mb02, 0823jd03, and 1030mb02 on the halo page all look like sun dogs to me. A sun dog (or parhelion) is a "mock sun" 22 degrees from the real sun and exactly the same height above the horizon as it. They may appear to the left, to the right or on both sides simultaneously. Many times they appear to be almost as bright as the sun. Sometimes a halo occurs at the same time, in which case the sun dogs are on both sides of the halo which is, of course, 22 degrees from the sun. Depending on the shapes of the cirrus clouds or ice crystals causing the phenomenon, we may see less than a total image of the sun in the sun dog, therefore sun dogs can appear as peculiar shapes. Many Americans mistakenly call the regular halo around the sun a "sun dog". A related phenomenon where a bright patch or line is seen vertically above or below the sun is known as a "sun pillar" When we were little kids (around 1950), when the sun dogs appeared in the sky in the morning, then it was time to leave for school. It was almost exactly eight o'clock. I cannot remember whether this was only at a certain time of year or all year round, but it seems to me now the former was more likely. My grandmother, and Mrs King (then aged 109 years) across the road were the people who first taught me about sun dogs. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Jimmy Deguara To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:32:24 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hi > Hi Robert and all, > > Fantastic pics and thanks for bringing up the subject. Here are some of > the > halos from the past > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/halo01.htm > > I was never particularly overly interested in halos but since you > brought > up the term sundog, I was just wondering if people could tell me what > the > sundog is? Is it the halo produced by the sun or specifically the > secondary halo in these pictures? > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/0423jd01. > jpg > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/0423jd02. > jpg > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/0423jd03. > jpg > > In other words, there is a secondary arc which is different from the > direct > halo related to the sun. Somebody was pointing to these photos as a > sundog > or maybe they thought the others were? > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 09:31 PM 18/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: > >On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Matthew Smith wrote: > > > > > Should be some nice sunsets across vic today as that high clouds > moves > > > across this arvo > > > > > > >As it turned out, there was too much low-level haze from the cool > change > >which blocked out the sun as it set. Here are some images from the > sunset > >on Saturday, though, which produced a sun dog. > > > >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2002_03_16/today.html > > > > > >Cheers > > > >-- > > > >Robert A. Goler > > > >School of Mathematical Sciences > >PO Box 28M > >Monash University > >Clayton, Vic 3800 > >Australia > > > >ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > >email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > > >-- > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: aus-wx: Sundogs & haloes (was Hi) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:24:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Then there are the ones from March 2000 over Geelong that Clyve Herbert took http://www.stormchasers.au.com/dog_of_a_day.htm and the halo photo that Lindsay Smail took the other day http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Mar02/0316ls01.jpg linked from here http://www.stormchasers.au.com/vicimages.htm Is March the month of sundogs & haloes then? 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Good afternoon Michael,
I guess you could say the cupboard is almost bare, however I have been watching two areas of potential (although rather poor areas) one is southwest of Indonesia, this region has been persistently active over the past several weeks although convection is rather 'freckled' but also covers a large area. There is some moisture just starting to get into the top end of the NT at the moment thanks to the upper flow steering ahead of an apparent long wave trough to the west. The area northwest of Australia appears to be part of a weak (sorry I cant think of the wave namers) I think the 'Julian-Madden wave hypothesis which is an interesting theory on propagating cloud areas within the tropics, although this region is very slowly propagating eastward it is also weakening. I am also interested in an area of convection northeast of Fiji which has ok outflow but limited low level convergence. Why has the 'Australian Monsoon' appeared to have stalled?, I have been sniffing around the upper temps, one thing that seems to stand out at the moment is the rather considerable upper warming over much of inland Aus and areas to the north almost to 5 degrees south northwest of Darwin, this has weakened the lapse rate potential at the moment plus a few other factors. regards and best wishes Clyve Herbert.
PS.....I have been cleaning out some of my old mail, and I found a letter from you that you sent on 5.11.99, I must have put it somewhere and then lost it, please accept my apologies. The photo is of a congesting and deep cumulus line possibly outflow induced ahead of what appears to be a heavy rain area, looks rather good  the rain looks heavy as well.C.H.
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G'day Clyve et al - nothing scientific about my prognostications.  Wonder (=hope) about the possibility of some more tropical activity to follow shortly upon this late season blast of heat.  The ITCZ cupboard looks bare at the moment, but we can but hope (=dream)!

>From: "Clyve Herbert"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: aus-wx: tropo discussion
>Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:19:41 +1100
>
>Hi all tropo,s
>Seems to be a bit of a build up of moisture over Cape York area with an interesting although small region of surface vorticity just east of Cooktown, upper outflow is weak, this area of activity can be traced far to the east with a narrow band of storms. Also there is a large area of strong upper divergence well northeast of Fiji seems to moving slowly westward, the surface convergence is rather disorganised at the moment. There seems to have been a marked change in upper directional shear (above 300hpa) from the usual easterlies to a weak north-westerly northwest of Australia over Indonesia is it possible that the present weakening long wave trough over Australia extends its influence this far north?.
>regards Clyve Herbert.


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X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p39-max5.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.157.231] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:58:55 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sundogs & haloes (was Hi) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane, Just to answer the question and not leave people wondering, it can happen at any time of the year. However, it needs a certain level of cloud (altostratus level) with the late afternoon sun to shine through. It is brightest at a certain angle of the sun's rays with the atmosphere. Cheers, Jimmy Deguara At 06:24 PM 19/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Then there are the ones from March 2000 over Geelong that Clyve Herbert >took >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/dog_of_a_day.htm > >and the halo photo that Lindsay Smail took the other day >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Mar02/0316ls01.jpg linked from here >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/vicimages.htm > > >Is March the month of sundogs & haloes then? > >Jane > >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >Melbourne Storm Chasers >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >ASWA - Victoria >http://www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p39-max5.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.157.231] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:53:46 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hi Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert, Thanks for those links!!!! As to the secondary arcs on those specific links again listed here, they are at a different orientation the the main arcs. http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/0423jd01.jpg this one best explains what I am trying to get across. The secondary arc is oriented further south of the main sundog arc which is the slightly coloured one just able to be seen. You can see the coloured one is oriented on almost vertically and continues to the bottom right hand corner. Here it is not as bright as the other arc http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/0423jd02.jpg Please also note that these photos were taken almost overhead so it is difficult to get a proper bearing on the direction. This is why I ran up the farm and raced for the camera as it was very unusual for what I have seen in the past. Normally, most halo type situations occur during the late afternoon. By the way, these "sundogs" according to farmers are a significant sign for more significant weather to come in the next 8 days - this could include storms or a major rain event (or windy weather). We also saw one the same day that Robert saw his. We shall see what happens. Two days have passed. Jimmy Deguara At 05:58 PM 19/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/halo01.htm > >Great pics Jimmy!! > > > what is the sundog? > >The sundog (also called parhelia) refers to the two bright spots of light >at the same elevation as the sun, on the 22 degree halo. These are shown >in your thumbnail images: >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/thumbs/1998/0226mb01.jpg >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/thumbs/1998/0226mb02.jpg > >Basically the sundog is the point of intersection of the 22 degree halo >and the parhelic circle. The 22 degree halo encircles the sun, at a >distance of 22 degrees (not surprisingly). The parhelic circle is >parallel to the horizon at the same elevation of the sun. >(see http://www.meteoros.de/ee13ee18/ee13_b.htm) > >Pictures are worth a thousand words, and here is a schematic describing >what I just mentioned, along with a few other things: >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/halo.jpg > >A great site to see more images of atmospheric optical phenomenon >(including a computer program to generate your own) is here: >http://www.meteoros.de/indexe.htm > > > > In other words, there is a secondary arc which is different from the > direct > > halo related to the sun. Somebody was pointing to these photos as a sundog > > or maybe they thought the others were? > >Unfortunately, I couldn't judge the orientation of those arcs relative to >the sun/horizon, and so I'm not sure what they are. Perhaps part of the >parhelic circle?? > > >Cheers > >-- > >Robert A. Goler > >School of Mathematical Sciences >PO Box 28M >Monash University >Clayton, Vic 3800 >Australia > >ph. +61 3 9905 4424 >email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > >-- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie wx" Subject: aus-wx: New links page Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:16:04 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2002 08:13:20.0863 (UTC) FILETIME=[EEB07EF0:01C1CF1D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all
After a week of messing around with it i have finished* my links page. Now i am not here to promote rather get Peoples opinions on it. It works fine in IE less so in Opera, but im just wondering How it works in Netscape??
 
 
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From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: New website Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:26:19 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI all.
 
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X-Authentication-Warning: duckman.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:53:04 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-X-Sender: robert at duckman.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hi Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Jimmy Deguara wrote: > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/0423jd01.jpg > this one best explains what I am trying to get across. The secondary arc is > oriented further south of the main sundog arc which is the slightly > coloured one just able to be seen. You can see the coloured one is oriented > on almost vertically and continues to the bottom right hand corner. Yep, this is clear. Then that secondary arc would indeed be part of the parhelic circle. You can compare this with: http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/halo_72.jpg which is output from that free computer program, Halosky. This shows how the halos would appear with the sun at an elevation of 72 degrees. The dot above centre represents the sun, and the circle with the sun at the centre is the 22 degree halo, and the bright circle with the sun in the edge is the parhelic circle. I guess your photo 0423jd01.jpg would be of the left sun dog (the left intersection of the two halos). Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p10-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.140.10] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:02:31 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hi Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert, Perfect - that is exactly how it occurred. Jimmy Deguara At 08:53 PM 19/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/0423jd01.jpg > > this one best explains what I am trying to get across. The secondary > arc is > > oriented further south of the main sundog arc which is the slightly > > coloured one just able to be seen. You can see the coloured one is > oriented > > on almost vertically and continues to the bottom right hand corner. > >Yep, this is clear. Then that secondary arc would indeed be part of the >parhelic circle. You can compare this with: > >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/halo_72.jpg >which is output from that free computer program, Halosky. > >This shows how the halos would appear with the sun at an elevation of 72 >degrees. The dot above centre represents the sun, and the circle with the >sun at the centre is the 22 degree halo, and the bright circle with the >sun in the edge is the parhelic circle. I guess your photo 0423jd01.jpg >would be of the left sun dog (the left intersection of the two halos). > > >Cheers > >-- > >Robert A. Goler > >School of Mathematical Sciences >PO Box 28M >Monash University >Clayton, Vic 3800 >Australia > >ph. +61 3 9905 4424 >email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > >-- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Tropical low N.H. Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:27:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2002 11:27:13.0690 (UTC) FILETIME=[046507A0:01C1CF39] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Phil and all.
Been watching a persistent area of convection southeast of the Philippines at 135 east and about 5 north ,its rather large and located at the very southwest end of an upper long wave trough connected to an impressive cold front that can be traced as far west as Taiwan. There seems to be only moderate to poor upper support and the area appears to be halving difficulty organising itself never the less its worth a watch over the next 24 hours or so. regards Clyve H.
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:29:05 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tropical low N.H. X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes Clyve, had my eye on that one also for several days of organise, dissipate, organise, dissipate, organise, dissipate, but it's very definitely become so organised during today that I have already added it's first few sets of links to my page at http://www.drdisk.com/hk/cyclones.htm about mid-afternoon. I reckon we will see 03W in the next day or so. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:27:25 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Tropical low N.H. > Hi Phil and all. > Been watching a persistent area of convection southeast of the > Philippines at 135 east and about 5 north ,its rather large and located > at the very southwest end of an upper long wave trough connected to an > impressive cold front that can be traced as far west as Taiwan. There > seems to be only moderate to poor upper support and the area appears to > be halving difficulty organising itself never the less its worth a > watch over the next 24 hours or so. regards Clyve H. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Freezing levels Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 06:27:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, The front currently passing across Tasmania and Victoria appears to extend to ~600hPa, but the thing that caught my attention (other than the cold pool lurking behind it just SW of Tas at 0430) is the large drop in freezing levels - in Victoria they are progged to drop from 13,000' before to 9,500' after with a temperature change at 10,000' of +4C to -1C. This is the first *significant* drop in freezing levels with the passage of a front through southern Victoria this season. ...looking forward to the first cold outbreak with hail & sleet (with 500hPa temps of a lot less than -12C) - can't be far off now..... Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.29.156.6] From: "T Middleton" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sundogs & haloes (was Hi) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:14:33 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2002 20:14:34.0223 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF9F37F0:01C1CF82] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hey all, here is another example from last year that i took http://bigmax.yi.org:6969/users/anvils/iridescence1.htm these (iridesence/sundogs) seem occur more often than one may think (this far south anyway ~37-38deg) and usually lasts a brief period of say upto 10minutes. this particular example intensified in colour to become almost spectacular and then 'died' http://bigmax.yi.org:6969/users/anvils/iridescence2.htm http://bigmax.yi.org:6969/users/anvils/iridescence3.htm regards T.Middleton >From: "Jane ONeill" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: Sundogs & haloes (was Hi) >Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:24:27 +1100 > >Then there are the ones from March 2000 over Geelong that Clyve Herbert >took >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/dog_of_a_day.htm > >and the halo photo that Lindsay Smail took the other day >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Mar02/0316ls01.jpg linked from here >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/vicimages.htm > > >Is March the month of sundogs & haloes then? > >Jane > >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >Melbourne Storm Chasers >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >ASWA - Victoria >http://www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ cya tm http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:19:14 +1000 Subject: Re: Simon's aus-wx: New links page From: Intentional Server 1 To: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: Simon's aus-wx: New links page Hi Simon
runs fine on netscape (current versions) and also cross platform onto the Macs using both netscape and ie for Macs.
the yellow text is hard to read on the light purple bgd
‹ but apart from that it's a good collection of links and a great resource
Regards
Brian Wilson

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From: David Jones To: "old AUSSIE WX (aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com)" Subject: aus-wx: mondays front.. in Melbourne Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:41:35 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Hi all. >Pre frontal trough just past through Leopold at 1625hrs dropping the = >temp from 34.4c and humidity of 17%!!! to 21.7c and humidity of 61% all = >this in 5 minutes, also some lightning west of Vic along the upper = >trough with some mid level moisture. >regards Clyve H. Ok... admittedly late (I've been of on a course the last two days) but I witnessed my first fog without rain front when the change from westerlies to south/southwesterlies occurred around 7:30pm in the Dandenongs on Monday night. I was out walking the dogs near Dunns Hill when I noticed what looked like a band of rain moving rapidly from the south, but soon realized I was looking down through a bank of low stratus which was racing northeast across the Mornington Peninsula. On hitting the Dandenongs, it felt like someone had put the air conditioner on as the area around Dunns Hill was enveloped by fog and the temp dropped by about 4C almost instantaneously. Cheers, DJ Dr David Jones Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:13:57 +1100 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Hot weather in SE Aust Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For the 2nd half of March the 42 in western NSW today appears to be the highest since 1980.Yesterday was a day record in Sydney - hpottest St Pats day ever helped the Guiness go down Any other records? Mungindi's 41 equlas its March record I berlieve.. Ceduna and Eucla in recent days must have come close. Any comments Blair? Don White +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [202.139.125.41] From: "Jeff Halter" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 03:25:20 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2002 03:25:20.0465 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD2EC410:01C1CFBE] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I was surprised to see lightning last night in the Northern Beaches of Sydney. Was this expected by anyone?? J _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aus Wx" Subject: aus-wx: Mean thickness charts Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:31:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com All, Are there any mean thickness maps (1000 - 500hPa) month by month for the entire continent of Australia? or even charts.. Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Dwyer" To: Subject: aus-wx: New ASWA Merchandise; ASWA Hats are now Available Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:43:58 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, ASWA is now proud to announce the Addition and availability of ASWA Hats to the ASWA Merchandise Range. To view the hats online simply visit the ASWA Website, Merchandise Section for more details or the direct URL here http://www.severeweather.asn.au/merchandise/hats.htm For any other information that you may require please feel free to contact me via the email address below. :) Regards, Mark Dwyer E-Mail: mjd at iinet.net.au ICQ# 40431595 ----------------------------------------- Co-Webmaster: http://www.dsw.au.com/ State Representative ASWA - Western Australia: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ----------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 07:14:51 +1100 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anthony...the optimist? Don Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > Hi all, > > Does anyone have any thoughts on thunderstorm potential in SE QLD/NE NSW > this Wed/Thurs? > > The trough looks like it will slow down as it reaches NE NSW/SE QLD - > which could be good, as it'll be in time for a weak upper trough to move > through. Most of the colder air will be positioned to the south, but > AVN is suggesting 500mb temps of around -10 on Wed/Thurs, which although > is relatively warm isn't too bad. > > I think the main problem will be surface moisture, however this evening > is encouraging. DPs are generally the same tonight as they were last > night, however there's a bit of low level Stratocu coming in on the > seabreeze which means the moisture thickness is a bit deeper (yay!!!) > The moisture depth should improve a little over the next few days as a > low level easterly flow becomes more estalished over a surface easterly > (well, NE) and low level westerlies mixing through. > > The other thing is the positioning of the trough...a little far on > Wednesday, looks substantially better for NE NSW - but Thursday sees a > SE change creeping up the coast with NE'lies ahead of them and some > additional upper support from the south pushing northwards a bit. On > Wednesday, (moisture pending - which I think will be adequete, well > hope!) we should see some border range thunderies, and maybe even > something on the Downs (I can chase in my new car which will be three > days old on Wednesday!!!) NE NSW is better, both with the positioning > of the trough and instability. -4 to -6 LIs for NE NSW, dropping to -2 > to -4 in the southern Downs and border ranges, and 0 to -2 in the > remainder. And shear...ummm, well - you don't reallllllly want to look > at shear....10 knots or below until 300mb when it gets to a whopping > 30knots (excuse sarcasm!) If there are storms they won't be moving > much, so Brisbane won't have a great chance unless shear is a lot better > than that - anything would most probably sit on/near the ranges. > > Thursday has the best instability in the far NE of NE NSW, with -4 to > -6, and then a good chunk of SE QLD under -2 to -4, so not bad. Shear > profile sees southerlies at 850mb which is a little wierd (well, not > what I was expecting anyway). Shear on Thursday...well, you might have > asked yourself on Wednesday "Geez, could you get a worse shear profile > than below 10 knots until 300mb where it's 30 knots?" And the answer > would be "Yes, have a look at the following day" - below 10 knots until > 300mb when it's 15 knots!!! > > 850 temps will also be quite high (around 19C), almost too warm (cap > problem). But I guess we'll see. I think we should at least see a > storm on Wed/Thurs - but interested to hear other people's opinions! > There was some dry CJs on the ranges today. > > Currently 25/23 here, very humid! 22/17 in Toowoomba, I wonder if the > DP can maintain itself, then I might be able to make use of my fog > lights on the new car too! :) > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:48:46 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hot weather in SE Aust Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If anyone is interesting in some stats for the heat wave - please check here: http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001915;p=1 and the 2 subsequent pages. cheers, Michael At 05:13 PM 18/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >For the 2nd half of March the 42 in western NSW today appears to be the >highest since 1980.Yesterday was a day record in Sydney - hpottest St >Pats day ever helped the Guiness go down >Any other records? Mungindi's 41 equlas its March record I berlieve.. >Ceduna and Eucla in recent days must have come close. >Any comments Blair? >Don White > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p10-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.140.10] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:01:50 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Re: Storms near Sydney Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jeff, Yes there were some large cumulus that developed during the afternoon. They were shallow due to the strong cap inhibiting growth of the cells. Some nice large drops fell here but nothing obviously registered. Some steady rain with large drops would have fallen within a few kilometres away from here onwards mainly in the northern parts of Sydney. I didn't see lightning but I was expecting it from the cells that would have become stronger as they hit the ocean with a better moisture source. Better storms to the N in the Hunter at the moment or Bulahedelah :)))) Also of note in the US, the season has started with a good tornadic warning with storms in central Texas San Antonio area. I like the last sentence... and yes you have to live in mobile homes to be unlucky Tornado Watch 31 URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED TORNADO WATCH NUMBER 31 STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 322 PM CST TUE MAR 19 2002 THE STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A TORNADO WATCH FOR LARGE PART OF CENTRAL TEXAS EFFECTIVE THIS TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 330 PM UNTIL 900 PM CST. TORNADOES...HAIL TO 3 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 70 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS. THE TORNADO WATCH AREA IS ALONG AND 90 STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 75 MILES SOUTHWEST OF HONDO TEXAS TO 30 MILES NORTH NORTHEAST OF STEPHENVILLE TEXAS. REMEMBER...A TORNADO WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR TORNADOES AND SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS. OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...THIS TORNADO WATCH REPLACES SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH NUMBER 30. WATCH NUMBER 30 WILL NOT BE IN EFFECT AFTER 330 PM CST. DISCUSSION...TORNADO THREAT SHOULD INCREASE INTO CENTRAL TX THROUGH THE EVENING AS AIR MASS DESTABILIZES WITHIN STRONGLY SHEARED WIND FIELD. AVIATION...TORNADOES AND A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT TO 3 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND GUSTS TO 60 KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 500. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 23035. WARNING________________________ TORNADO WARNING BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED TORNADO WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AUSTIN/SAN ANTONIO TX 749 PM CST TUE MAR 19 2002 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS ISSUED A * TORNADO WARNING FOR THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES IN TEXAS... GUADALUPE BEXAR WILSON * UNTIL 845 PM CST * AT 749 PM...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A THUNDERSTORM WITH STRONG SIGNS THAT A TORNADO IS PRESENT IN SOUTH SAN ANTONIO... MOVING EAST AT 40 MPH. * THE TORNADO PRODUCING STORM IS EXPECTED TO MOVE EASTWARD INTO GUADALUPE AND WILSON COUNTIES AFTER 800 PM. POWER IS OUT IN PARTS OF SAN ANTONIO AND MOBILE HOMES DAMAGED. LARGE HAIL HAS ALSO BEEN REPORTED. THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS STORM. At 03:25 AM 20/3/2002 +0000, you wrote: >I was surprised to see lightning last night in the Northern Beaches of >Sydney. Was this expected by anyone?? >J > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hot weather in SE Aust To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:17:18 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > For the 2nd half of March the 42 in western NSW today appears to be the > highest since 1980.Yesterday was a day record in Sydney - hpottest St > Pats day ever helped the Guiness go down > Any other records? Mungindi's 41 equlas its March record I berlieve.. > Ceduna and Eucla in recent days must have come close. > Any comments Blair? > Don White I've commented extensively on this on the Weatherzone forum. One additional point is that the Lismore Airport obs appear to be suspect. Others all look OK. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew" To: Subject: aus-wx: Storm Report Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:47:05 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2002 07:45:57.0102 (UTC) FILETIME=[455838E0:01C1CFE3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
Thought you might like to see this chase/spotting report from 25th Feb here in Melbourne.
 
 
There are also a number of other reports from this day and the rest of the summer on the MSC page.
 
 
Thanks to Jane for putting it up on the page.
 
Regards,
 
 
 
Andrew McDonald
From: "Ashton H Anderson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coronal Mass Ejection Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:22:24 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
You may wish to check David but I believe that alert may have been a false alarm
 
Ashton
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X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:58:56 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com, From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coronal Mass Ejection Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 04:22 PM 18/03/2002 +1100, Ashton H Anderson wrote: >You may wish to check David but I believe that alert may have been a false >alarm Well, apparently, amateurs were working auroral propagation, so there was some sort of geomagnetic event around that time. :) Just did the weekly newscast and heard it during then. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Steve Baynham" To: "weather" Subject: aus-wx: moon & storms on webcam Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:05:06 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hey all,
got back from canberra on monday after spending two weeks there. weather was quite boring apart from teh 7th. some nice photos will get back tomorrow and also some pictures from the plane of SE QLD's storms on march 1st.
storm possibility tomorrow so if ya want to look just go to the bsch webcam. right now. it is pointing at the almost half moon and saturn. setting in a coup[le of hours though. anyway,
cyas
 
 
Steve Baynham
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From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Australian tornadic events (dry line effects) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:06:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I found this on the wx-chase list & thought someone might like to respond....... From: "Ralph Nistler" Subject: Australian tornadic events (dry line effects) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 02:16:49 -0600 my name is Nicholas Nistler and I am a meteorology student in my final year at Saint Cloud State University in Minnesota. The reason I am writing you is that I'm working on a senior thesis paper which involves Australian tornadic events. Specifically what I want to research is if there is a presence of dry line in certain Australian Tornadic events, and if there is, does it resemble are dry line. So far I have a hypothesis, but I need more data and observations. My hypothesis is that there is a presence of a dry line or pseudo-dry line in Australian tornadic events. This dry line unlike the central U.S. tornado alley dry line forms from the interior continent and seems to clash with a moist ridge that locates itself over the eastern coast of Australia. The dry line seems to be prefrontal and doesn't regress at night like the U.S. dry line effect. Also like you k! now, the U.S. dry line has a signature of subsiding-downsloping air shown on a sounding. Like mentioned before this is not true for the Australian case. What I am politely requesting is information that would help me prove my case. I am struggling to find archived information such as equivalent potential temperature maps. maximum temperature maps, *dew point temperature maps, and upper air temperature maps that would correlate with a time of a dry-line effect, convected, tornadic cell in Australia. Thank you for your time, Nicholas J. Nistler (Meteorology student) -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coronal Mass Ejection Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:04:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This info may assist you guys :)
 
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                  AURORA WATCH FOR MIDDLE LATITUDES EXTENDED

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You may wish to check David but I believe that alert may have been a false alarm
 
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X-Authentication-Warning: duckman.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:29:28 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-X-Sender: robert at duckman.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coronal Mass Ejection Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Sha wrote: > AURORA WATCH FOR MIDDLE LATITUDES EXTENDED > > AURORA WATCH FOR MIDDLE LATITUDES EXTENDED > But it still forecasts that at its northernmost limit in the southern hemisphere, the southern regions of New Zealand *MAY* see some activity. http://www.spacew.com/www/southoval.gif shows how the aurora oval is estimated to look at the moment for the southern hemisphere. Still too far south of us. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:34:00 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well maybe, But there were very definitely anvils on the SW horizon this afternoon before sundown, and after 4 0/8 days on the trot, what a welcome sight! John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Don White Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:15 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? Anthony...the optimist? Don Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > Hi all, > > Does anyone have any thoughts on thunderstorm potential in SE QLD/NE NSW > this Wed/Thurs? > > The trough looks like it will slow down as it reaches NE NSW/SE QLD - > which could be good, as it'll be in time for a weak upper trough to move > through. Most of the colder air will be positioned to the south, but > AVN is suggesting 500mb temps of around -10 on Wed/Thurs, which although > is relatively warm isn't too bad. > > I think the main problem will be surface moisture, however this evening > is encouraging. DPs are generally the same tonight as they were last > night, however there's a bit of low level Stratocu coming in on the > seabreeze which means the moisture thickness is a bit deeper (yay!!!) > The moisture depth should improve a little over the next few days as a > low level easterly flow becomes more estalished over a surface easterly > (well, NE) and low level westerlies mixing through. > > The other thing is the positioning of the trough...a little far on > Wednesday, looks substantially better for NE NSW - but Thursday sees a > SE change creeping up the coast with NE'lies ahead of them and some > additional upper support from the south pushing northwards a bit. On > Wednesday, (moisture pending - which I think will be adequete, well > hope!) we should see some border range thunderies, and maybe even > something on the Downs (I can chase in my new car which will be three > days old on Wednesday!!!) NE NSW is better, both with the positioning > of the trough and instability. -4 to -6 LIs for NE NSW, dropping to -2 > to -4 in the southern Downs and border ranges, and 0 to -2 in the > remainder. And shear...ummm, well - you don't reallllllly want to look > at shear....10 knots or below until 300mb when it gets to a whopping > 30knots (excuse sarcasm!) If there are storms they won't be moving > much, so Brisbane won't have a great chance unless shear is a lot better > than that - anything would most probably sit on/near the ranges. > > Thursday has the best instability in the far NE of NE NSW, with -4 to > -6, and then a good chunk of SE QLD under -2 to -4, so not bad. Shear > profile sees southerlies at 850mb which is a little wierd (well, not > what I was expecting anyway). Shear on Thursday...well, you might have > asked yourself on Wednesday "Geez, could you get a worse shear profile > than below 10 knots until 300mb where it's 30 knots?" And the answer > would be "Yes, have a look at the following day" - below 10 knots until > 300mb when it's 15 knots!!! > > 850 temps will also be quite high (around 19C), almost too warm (cap > problem). But I guess we'll see. I think we should at least see a > storm on Wed/Thurs - but interested to hear other people's opinions! > There was some dry CJs on the ranges today. > > Currently 25/23 here, very humid! 22/17 in Toowoomba, I wonder if the > DP can maintain itself, then I might be able to make use of my fog > lights on the new car too! :) > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ashton H Anderson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coronal Mass Ejection Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 05:12:13 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Tasmania is still a long long way away !!!!!!!!!!
My email published 20th March 7.52pm was sent by me 18th March 4.22pm.
Why me ??
 
Ashton
PS Ozemail ??  Not now surely !!
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You may wish to check David but I believe that alert may have been a false alarm
 
Ashton
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X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p12-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.12] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 06:50:09 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coronal Mass Ejection Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Ashton and anyone else on Ozemail, Ever since yahoo has taken a chunk, you can say that Ozemail will never be the same and on the way down hill just like anything else it takes over. I have never come across a company so interested in greed at any cost and sly, ambiguous activity. Jimmy Deguara At 05:12 AM 21/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Tasmania is still a long long way away !!!!!!!!!! >My email published 20th March 7.52pm was sent by me 18th March 4.22pm. >Why me ?? > >Ashton >PS Ozemail ?? Not now surely !! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Ashton H Anderson >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 4:22 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Coronal Mass Ejection > >You may wish to check David but I believe that alert may have been a false >alarm > >Ashton >----- Original Message ----- >From: David Findlay >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 4:07 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Coronal Mass Ejection > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >http://www.spaceweather.com/ > >Possible aurora's tonight around midnight!! > >David >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > >iD8DBQE8lXYCF2H7v0XOYBIRAvscAJ9uvOM10DXXobAQVn1NsC6YTTKptACff8lH >8ZtNcQgkWBBL6v7FK6FFh5E= >=Da1Q >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damien Howes" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 07:14:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day John + All, yes the anvils were nice to see. Although the strongest cells were a little further west. I came back from Charleville yesterday and there was the odd overshoot in the cells south of about Roma. Anthony sent his email on Monday and from what I could see his ideas have worked out pretty much bang-on. Damien Howes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 12:34 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? > Well maybe, > > But there were very definitely anvils on the SW horizon this afternoon > before sundown, and after 4 0/8 days on the trot, what a welcome sight! > > John. > >snip > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Don White > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:15 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? > > > Anthony...the optimist? > Don > > Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone have any thoughts on thunderstorm potential in SE QLD/NE NSW > > this Wed/Thurs? > > > > The trough looks like it will slow down as it reaches NE NSW/SE QLD - > > which could be good, as it'll be in time for a weak upper trough to move > > through. Most of the colder air will be positioned to the south, but > > AVN is suggesting 500mb temps of around -10 on Wed/Thurs, which although > > is relatively warm isn't too bad. > > > > I think the main problem will be surface moisture, however this evening > > is encouraging. DPs are generally the same tonight as they were last > > night, however there's a bit of low level Stratocu coming in on the > > seabreeze which means the moisture thickness is a bit deeper (yay!!!) > > The moisture depth should improve a little over the next few days as a > > low level easterly flow becomes more estalished over a surface easterly > > (well, NE) and low level westerlies mixing through. > > > > The other thing is the positioning of the trough...a little far on > > Wednesday, looks substantially better for NE NSW - but Thursday sees a > > SE change creeping up the coast with NE'lies ahead of them and some > > additional upper support from the south pushing northwards a bit. On > > Wednesday, (moisture pending - which I think will be adequete, well > > hope!) we should see some border range thunderies, and maybe even > > something on the Downs (I can chase in my new car which will be three > > days old on Wednesday!!!) NE NSW is better, both with the positioning > > of the trough and instability. -4 to -6 LIs for NE NSW, dropping to -2 > > to -4 in the southern Downs and border ranges, and 0 to -2 in the > > remainder. And shear...ummm, well - you don't reallllllly want to look > > at shear....10 knots or below until 300mb when it gets to a whopping > > 30knots (excuse sarcasm!) If there are storms they won't be moving > > much, so Brisbane won't have a great chance unless shear is a lot better > > than that - anything would most probably sit on/near the ranges. > > > > Thursday has the best instability in the far NE of NE NSW, with -4 to > > -6, and then a good chunk of SE QLD under -2 to -4, so not bad. Shear > > profile sees southerlies at 850mb which is a little wierd (well, not > > what I was expecting anyway). Shear on Thursday...well, you might have > > asked yourself on Wednesday "Geez, could you get a worse shear profile > > than below 10 knots until 300mb where it's 30 knots?" And the answer > > would be "Yes, have a look at the following day" - below 10 knots until > > 300mb when it's 15 knots!!! > > > > 850 temps will also be quite high (around 19C), almost too warm (cap > > problem). But I guess we'll see. I think we should at least see a > > storm on Wed/Thurs - but interested to hear other people's opinions! > > There was some dry CJs on the ranges today. > > > > Currently 25/23 here, very humid! 22/17 in Toowoomba, I wonder if the > > DP can maintain itself, then I might be able to make use of my fog > > lights on the new car too! :) > > > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > (07) 3390 4812 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: aus-wx: A Vortex Street in the Arctic Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:52:32 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Have a look at this.

 http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=7781
Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\EO Newsroom New Images - A Vortex Street in the Arctic.url" X-Originating-IP: [202.5.161.1] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:35:43 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2002 00:35:45.0513 (UTC) FILETIME=[56DA0D90:01C1D070] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well, we her in Coffs Harbour had the best lightning show that we've had for years last night!!! Flashes every 2-4 seconds for approx 3hree hours. G'day John + All, yes the anvils were nice to see. Although the strongest cells were a little further west. I came back from Charleville yesterday and there was the odd overshoot in the cells south of about Roma. Anthony sent his email on Monday and from what I could see his ideas have worked out pretty much bang-on. Damien Howes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 12:34 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? >Well maybe, > >But there were very definitely anvils on the SW horizon this afternoon >before sundown, and after 4 0/8 days on the trot, what a welcome sight! > >John. > >snip >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Don White >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:15 AM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? > > >Anthony...the optimist? >Don > >Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone have any thoughts on thunderstorm potential in SE QLD/NE NSW > > this Wed/Thurs? > > > > The trough looks like it will slow down as it reaches NE NSW/SE QLD - > > which could be good, as it'll be in time for a weak upper trough to move > > through. Most of the colder air will be positioned to the south, but > > AVN is suggesting 500mb temps of around -10 on Wed/Thurs, which although > > is relatively warm isn't too bad. > > > > I think the main problem will be surface moisture, however this evening > > is encouraging. DPs are generally the same tonight as they were last > > night, however there's a bit of low level Stratocu coming in on the > > seabreeze which means the moisture thickness is a bit deeper (yay!!!) > > The moisture depth should improve a little over the next few days as a > > low level easterly flow becomes more estalished over a surface easterly > > (well, NE) and low level westerlies mixing through. > > > > The other thing is the positioning of the trough...a little far on > > Wednesday, looks substantially better for NE NSW - but Thursday sees a > > SE change creeping up the coast with NE'lies ahead of them and some > > additional upper support from the south pushing northwards a bit. On > > Wednesday, (moisture pending - which I think will be adequete, well > > hope!) we should see some border range thunderies, and maybe even > > something on the Downs (I can chase in my new car which will be three > > days old on Wednesday!!!) NE NSW is better, both with the positioning > > of the trough and instability. -4 to -6 LIs for NE NSW, dropping to -2 > > to -4 in the southern Downs and border ranges, and 0 to -2 in the > > remainder. And shear...ummm, well - you don't reallllllly want to look > > at shear....10 knots or below until 300mb when it gets to a whopping > > 30knots (excuse sarcasm!) If there are storms they won't be moving > > much, so Brisbane won't have a great chance unless shear is a lot better > > than that - anything would most probably sit on/near the ranges. > > > > Thursday has the best instability in the far NE of NE NSW, with -4 to > > -6, and then a good chunk of SE QLD under -2 to -4, so not bad. Shear > > profile sees southerlies at 850mb which is a little wierd (well, not > > what I was expecting anyway). Shear on Thursday...well, you might have > > asked yourself on Wednesday "Geez, could you get a worse shear profile > > than below 10 knots until 300mb where it's 30 knots?" And the answer > > would be "Yes, have a look at the following day" - below 10 knots until > > 300mb when it's 15 knots!!! > > > > 850 temps will also be quite high (around 19C), almost too warm (cap > > problem). But I guess we'll see. I think we should at least see a > > storm on Wed/Thurs - but interested to hear other people's opinions! > > There was some dry CJs on the ranges today. > > > > Currently 25/23 here, very humid! 22/17 in Toowoomba, I wonder if the > > DP can maintain itself, then I might be able to make use of my fog > > lights on the new car too! :) > > > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > (07) 3390 4812 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "islesit" To: Subject: aus-wx: RE: North Coast Storms. Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:14:00 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Last night was a wonderful dry electrical storm night in Coffs Harbour. Wasn't much rain - pity we desperately need it. Wasn't much wind. But what a light show. Best light show that I can remember in years. The lightning seemed evenly spread between sheet lightning and fork lightning. A bolt hit the ground about two miles away as I was looking at it and it must have lasted 3 seconds (actually more likely 2/3 bolts flashing down the same track into the ground.) Lots of fork lightning hitting the ground and later on during the night between storm cells, I watched a bolt of lightning hit the radio towers at Mt Coramba about 20 miles west. At the same time the station went off air. It started at about 7.00 O'clock and ended after midnight. The summer has been particularly quiet for storms, which has been quiet disappointing so last night was a welcome change. Ian Isles Coffs Harbour NSW Australia -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of John Woodbridge Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2002 12:34 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? Well maybe, But there were very definitely anvils on the SW horizon this afternoon before sundown, and after 4 0/8 days on the trot, what a welcome sight! John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Don White Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:15 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? Anthony...the optimist? Don Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > Hi all, > > Does anyone have any thoughts on thunderstorm potential in SE QLD/NE NSW > this Wed/Thurs? > > The trough looks like it will slow down as it reaches NE NSW/SE QLD - > which could be good, as it'll be in time for a weak upper trough to move > through. Most of the colder air will be positioned to the south, but > AVN is suggesting 500mb temps of around -10 on Wed/Thurs, which although > is relatively warm isn't too bad. > > I think the main problem will be surface moisture, however this evening > is encouraging. DPs are generally the same tonight as they were last > night, however there's a bit of low level Stratocu coming in on the > seabreeze which means the moisture thickness is a bit deeper (yay!!!) > The moisture depth should improve a little over the next few days as a > low level easterly flow becomes more estalished over a surface easterly > (well, NE) and low level westerlies mixing through. > > The other thing is the positioning of the trough...a little far on > Wednesday, looks substantially better for NE NSW - but Thursday sees a > SE change creeping up the coast with NE'lies ahead of them and some > additional upper support from the south pushing northwards a bit. On > Wednesday, (moisture pending - which I think will be adequete, well > hope!) we should see some border range thunderies, and maybe even > something on the Downs (I can chase in my new car which will be three > days old on Wednesday!!!) NE NSW is better, both with the positioning > of the trough and instability. -4 to -6 LIs for NE NSW, dropping to -2 > to -4 in the southern Downs and border ranges, and 0 to -2 in the > remainder. And shear...ummm, well - you don't reallllllly want to look > at shear....10 knots or below until 300mb when it gets to a whopping > 30knots (excuse sarcasm!) If there are storms they won't be moving > much, so Brisbane won't have a great chance unless shear is a lot better > than that - anything would most probably sit on/near the ranges. > > Thursday has the best instability in the far NE of NE NSW, with -4 to > -6, and then a good chunk of SE QLD under -2 to -4, so not bad. Shear > profile sees southerlies at 850mb which is a little wierd (well, not > what I was expecting anyway). Shear on Thursday...well, you might have > asked yourself on Wednesday "Geez, could you get a worse shear profile > than below 10 knots until 300mb where it's 30 knots?" And the answer > would be "Yes, have a look at the following day" - below 10 knots until > 300mb when it's 15 knots!!! > > 850 temps will also be quite high (around 19C), almost too warm (cap > problem). But I guess we'll see. I think we should at least see a > storm on Wed/Thurs - but interested to hear other people's opinions! > There was some dry CJs on the ranges today. > > Currently 25/23 here, very humid! 22/17 in Toowoomba, I wonder if the > DP can maintain itself, then I might be able to make use of my fog > lights on the new car too! :) > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: strange pic nsw lightning To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:13:40 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 21/03/2002 01:13:18 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI all.. Has anyone seen the green image on the nsw lightning from weather zone. Interesting. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Met department" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: strange pic nsw lightning Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:33:06 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dave, It's actually a composite of radar and lightning data. The green you can see is the radar echoes. Craig -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2002 1:14 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: strange pic nsw lightning HI all.. Has anyone seen the green image on the nsw lightning from weather zone. Interesting. Dave ######################################################################## ############# This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ######################################################################## ############# +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 10:38:48 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: strange pic nsw lightning X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com So the aliens landed and dropped a dirty great green doughnut over Sydney... or maybe something went wrong with the lightning tracker based there. When someone finds out, perhaps they might enlighten us. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:13:40 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: strange pic nsw lightning > HI all.. > > Has anyone seen the green image on the nsw lightning from weather zone. > > Interesting. > > Dave > > > > > ####################################################################### > ############## > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it > and notify the > sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender, and are > not necessarily the views of Country Energy. > ####################################################################### > ############## > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp1.ihug.co.nz: Host p57-nas11.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.213.57] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: Aurora Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:37:16 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi,
When I lived in the south of the South Island I observed alot of Aurora and most of it would have been
in the months April to June. I don't know why that would be the case. The atmosphere is so clear down there
the aurora stand out from dusk. I have vivid memories of bright coloured curtains and most Aurora seemed
to have pulsating waves of light moving up through them. The most spectacular event I have ever seen in the
sky is when the remnants of a Russian satellite passed overhead reflecting the light of an Aurora back at us.
Anyway, since moving to Auckland 10 years ago i have never seen an Aurora. I think we are to far north
here plus the urban lights/pollution would make it hard to see. No doubt these would be observable from
Tasmania, and Victoria during extreme events.
Steven W
From: "Graeme Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aurora Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 19:20:43 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I've seen the Aurora a couple of times from the Auckland region - I'm a bit further north in a rural area. Saw some last year, but the best was in the late 1980's...awesome greens and pinks. Now if only we could get some nice CB's forming when I'm not working ;-)
 
GW
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Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 6:37 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Aurora

Hi,
When I lived in the south of the South Island I observed alot of Aurora and most of it would have been
in the months April to June. I don't know why that would be the case. The atmosphere is so clear down there
the aurora stand out from dusk. I have vivid memories of bright coloured curtains and most Aurora seemed
to have pulsating waves of light moving up through them. The most spectacular event I have ever seen in the
sky is when the remnants of a Russian satellite passed overhead reflecting the light of an Aurora back at us.
Anyway, since moving to Auckland 10 years ago i have never seen an Aurora. I think we are to far north
here plus the urban lights/pollution would make it hard to see. No doubt these would be observable from
Tasmania, and Victoria during extreme events.
Steven W
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:33:12 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aurora Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:20 PM 21/03/2002 +1200, you wrote: >I've seen the Aurora a couple of times from the Auckland region - I'm a >bit further north in a rural area. Saw some last year, but the best was in >the late 1980's...awesome greens and pinks. Now if only we could get some >nice CB's forming when I'm not working ;-) 1989 was the best. Across central Victoria, half the sky exploded in brilliant crimson, with the aurora. I had just come home from a radio club meeting and was about to walk inside when one of the guys said on the radio (I hadn't got round to turning that off yet ;) ) "Have a look in the sky".. Dunno how I'd missed it minutes before. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: ex TC Hary Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 19:05:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Is the 955hPa low on the 0Z chart to the SE of South Africa http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/national/charts/OSPio1.shtml actually ex TC Hary? Not a bad sort of low!!!!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aus Wx" Subject: aus-wx: Cold Victorian morning Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:52:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blair & all, Temperatures are getting well down for mid-March overnight atm. Melbourne was 10C at 7am and 9.9C at 8am. The Bay temp is 20.3C and the ocean is 18.9C. What are your thoughts about the upcoming autumn and winter? Jane (and a bunch of cold Victorians) --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "nandina morris" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aurora Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:20:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I saw the '89 event. I was in the 'tower' on the Brighton Pier, assisting in the running of an overnight yacht race. We had a nice bottle of red and a yummy chocolate cake. It was really awesome when the lights appeared - mostly mauve thru to red. Having read about them (National Geographic), never thought I would be fortunate enough to witness one. Cheers, Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Langdon (VK3JED) To: Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 6:33 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aurora > At 07:20 PM 21/03/2002 +1200, you wrote: > > >I've seen the Aurora a couple of times from the Auckland region - I'm a > >bit further north in a rural area. Saw some last year, but the best was in > >the late 1980's...awesome greens and pinks. Now if only we could get some > >nice CB's forming when I'm not working ;-) > > 1989 was the best. Across central Victoria, half the sky exploded in > brilliant crimson, with the aurora. I had just come home from a radio club > meeting and was about to walk inside when one of the guys said on the radio > (I hadn't got round to turning that off yet ;) ) "Have a look in the sky".. > > Dunno how I'd missed it minutes before. :) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/02 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Aurora Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:52:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I saw it too, we were coming home to Queanbeyan from Cootamundra in New South Wales & it looked like the reflection of a bushfire just over the Brindabellas, but of course there was no bushfire. We got out of the car & stood watching absolutely transfixed!!!!! Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- I saw the '89 event. I was in the 'tower' on the Brighton Pier, assisting in the running of an overnight yacht race. We had a nice bottle of red and a yummy chocolate cake. It was really awesome when the lights appeared - mostly mauve thru to red. Having read about them (National Geographic), never thought I would be fortunate enough to witness one. Cheers, Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Langdon (VK3JED) To: Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 6:33 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aurora > At 07:20 PM 21/03/2002 +1200, you wrote: > > >I've seen the Aurora a couple of times from the Auckland region - I'm a > >bit further north in a rural area. Saw some last year, but the best was in > >the late 1980's...awesome greens and pinks. Now if only we could get some > >nice CB's forming when I'm not working ;-) > > 1989 was the best. Across central Victoria, half the sky exploded in > brilliant crimson, with the aurora. I had just come home from a radio club > meeting and was about to walk inside when one of the guys said on the radio > (I hadn't got round to turning that off yet ;) ) "Have a look in the sky".. > > Dunno how I'd missed it minutes before. :) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/02 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aurora To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:35:58 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I was living in Winchester (UK) at the time and was out running when it happened - definitely an experience I won't forget in a hurry. (It started as a green glow on the horizon and my first thought was that a tankerload of something unpleasant had crashed on the bypass (which was, at the time, one of the most notorious traffic blackspots in Europe), but it was soon apparent that something rather more impressive was going on). Blair > I saw it too, we were coming home to Queanbeyan from Cootamundra in New > South Wales & it looked like the reflection of a bushfire just over the > Brindabellas, but of course there was no bushfire. We got out of the car & > stood watching absolutely transfixed!!!!! > > Jane > --------------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > --------------------------------------- > > > I saw the '89 event. I was in the 'tower' on the Brighton Pier, assisting > in the running of an overnight yacht race. We had a nice bottle of red and > a yummy chocolate cake. It was really awesome when the lights appeared - > mostly mauve thru to red. > Having read about them (National Geographic), never thought I would be > fortunate enough to witness one. > Cheers, > > Nandina > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tony Langdon (VK3JED) > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 6:33 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aurora > > > > At 07:20 PM 21/03/2002 +1200, you wrote: > > > > >I've seen the Aurora a couple of times from the Auckland region - I'm a > > >bit further north in a rural area. Saw some last year, but the best was > in > > >the late 1980's...awesome greens and pinks. Now if only we could get some > > >nice CB's forming when I'm not working ;-) > > > > 1989 was the best. Across central Victoria, half the sky exploded in > > brilliant crimson, with the aurora. I had just come home from a radio > club > > meeting and was about to walk inside when one of the guys said on the > radio > > (I hadn't got round to turning that off yet ;) ) "Have a look in the > sky".. > > > > Dunno how I'd missed it minutes before. :) > > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/02 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:07:14 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Aurora X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The best aurora I can remember was in about 1955 or 1956 and we viewed it from Terang in Western Victoria. It went on for night after night. Some nights the whole southern half of the sky would be a bright red - so bright that you could read by it. Other nights there were moving curtains of yellow, blue, green, violet, red - all constantly changing and moving as we watched. Some nights there were rays of colour almost looking like coloured searchlights sweeping the sky. I can see them again now in my mind as I think back. At exactly midnight all the street lights in the town would be turned off, so from midnight onwards it became even more spectacular. The biggest disadvantage of this wonderful display was that as I stayed out in the backyard till well after midnight every night, I found it extremely difficult to stay awake at school the next day. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:52:43 +1100 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Aurora > I saw it too, we were coming home to Queanbeyan from Cootamundra in New > South Wales & it looked like the reflection of a bushfire just over the > Brindabellas, but of course there was no bushfire. We got out of the > car & > stood watching absolutely transfixed!!!!! > > Jane > --------------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > --------------------------------------- > > > I saw the '89 event. I was in the 'tower' on the Brighton Pier, > assisting > in the running of an overnight yacht race. We had a nice bottle of red > and > a yummy chocolate cake. It was really awesome when the lights appeared > - > mostly mauve thru to red. > Having read about them (National Geographic), never thought I would be > fortunate enough to witness one. > Cheers, > > Nandina > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tony Langdon (VK3JED) > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 6:33 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aurora > > > > At 07:20 PM 21/03/2002 +1200, you wrote: > > > > >I've seen the Aurora a couple of times from the Auckland region - > I'm a > > >bit further north in a rural area. Saw some last year, but the best > was > in > > >the late 1980's...awesome greens and pinks. Now if only we could get > some > > >nice CB's forming when I'm not working ;-) > > > > 1989 was the best. Across central Victoria, half the sky exploded in > > brilliant crimson, with the aurora. I had just come home from a > radio > club > > meeting and was about to walk inside when one of the guys said on the > radio > > (I hadn't got round to turning that off yet ;) ) "Have a look in the > sky".. > > > > Dunno how I'd missed it minutes before. :) > > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/02 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ex TC Hary Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:19:45 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I thought Hary showed up southwest of WA earlier in the week as a tightly circular depression of less than 976 Mb..but I may have been wrong... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:05 PM Subject: aus-wx: ex TC Hary > Evening all, > > Is the 955hPa low on the 0Z chart to the SE of South Africa > http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/national/charts/OSPio1.shtml actually ex > TC Hary? > > Not a bad sort of low!!!!! > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:52:28 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Aurora Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 10:52 AM 22/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: >I saw it too, we were coming home to Queanbeyan from Cootamundra in New >South Wales & it looked like the reflection of a bushfire just over the >Brindabellas, but of course there was no bushfire. We got out of the car & >stood watching absolutely transfixed!!!!! Hmm, it went a long way north! But then again, it did pass the zenith in central Victoria. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "John Graham" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aurora Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:17:03 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It was the same up here....I thought there was a bushfire down around Wardell...beautiful reddy colour in the sky......I knew nothing about it 'til 2 trawlers started to talk about it on 27 Mhz.... John from Ballina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 6:33 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aurora > At 07:20 PM 21/03/2002 +1200, you wrote: > > >I've seen the Aurora a couple of times from the Auckland region - I'm a > >bit further north in a rural area. Saw some last year, but the best was in > >the late 1980's...awesome greens and pinks. Now if only we could get some > >nice CB's forming when I'm not working ;-) > > 1989 was the best. Across central Victoria, half the sky exploded in > brilliant crimson, with the aurora. I had just come home from a radio club > meeting and was about to walk inside when one of the guys said on the radio > (I hadn't got round to turning that off yet ;) ) "Have a look in the sky".. > > Dunno how I'd missed it minutes before. :) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: dencot1 at aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:29:55 EST Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aurora To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows AU sub 57 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For information or if you want to report an auroral sitting go to www.asv.org.au this is the site of the Astonomical Society of Victoria INC . Follow the links. A great site run by dedicaated people .

Dennis Cottle
From: "elizebeth wilson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:11:03 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here in Tamworth we just caught the edge of it, though the lightning caused 3 bushfires, one at Moonbi and two between Bendemeer and Walcha. It's just so dry everywhere. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Sercombe" To: Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:35 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? > Well, we her in Coffs Harbour had the best lightning show that we've had for > years last night!!! Flashes every 2-4 seconds for approx 3hree hours. > > > > G'day John + All, yes the anvils were nice to see. Although the strongest > cells were a little further west. I came back from Charleville yesterday and > there was the odd overshoot in the cells south of about Roma. Anthony sent > his email on Monday and from what I could see his ideas have worked out > pretty much bang-on. Damien Howes. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Woodbridge" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 12:34 AM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? > > > >Well maybe, > > > >But there were very definitely anvils on the SW horizon this afternoon > >before sundown, and after 4 0/8 days on the trot, what a welcome sight! > > > >John. > > >snip > >-----Original Message----- > >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Don White > >Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:15 AM > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD/NE NSW Storm Potential? > > > > > >Anthony...the optimist? > >Don > > > >Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Does anyone have any thoughts on thunderstorm potential in SE QLD/NE NSW > > > this Wed/Thurs? > > > > > > The trough looks like it will slow down as it reaches NE NSW/SE QLD - > > > which could be good, as it'll be in time for a weak upper trough to move > > > through. Most of the colder air will be positioned to the south, but > > > AVN is suggesting 500mb temps of around -10 on Wed/Thurs, which although > > > is relatively warm isn't too bad. > > > > > > I think the main problem will be surface moisture, however this evening > > > is encouraging. DPs are generally the same tonight as they were last > > > night, however there's a bit of low level Stratocu coming in on the > > > seabreeze which means the moisture thickness is a bit deeper (yay!!!) > > > The moisture depth should improve a little over the next few days as a > > > low level easterly flow becomes more estalished over a surface easterly > > > (well, NE) and low level westerlies mixing through. > > > > > > The other thing is the positioning of the trough...a little far on > > > Wednesday, looks substantially better for NE NSW - but Thursday sees a > > > SE change creeping up the coast with NE'lies ahead of them and some > > > additional upper support from the south pushing northwards a bit. On > > > Wednesday, (moisture pending - which I think will be adequete, well > > > hope!) we should see some border range thunderies, and maybe even > > > something on the Downs (I can chase in my new car which will be three > > > days old on Wednesday!!!) NE NSW is better, both with the positioning > > > of the trough and instability. -4 to -6 LIs for NE NSW, dropping to -2 > > > to -4 in the southern Downs and border ranges, and 0 to -2 in the > > > remainder. And shear...ummm, well - you don't reallllllly want to look > > > at shear....10 knots or below until 300mb when it gets to a whopping > > > 30knots (excuse sarcasm!) If there are storms they won't be moving > > > much, so Brisbane won't have a great chance unless shear is a lot better > > > than that - anything would most probably sit on/near the ranges. > > > > > > Thursday has the best instability in the far NE of NE NSW, with -4 to > > > -6, and then a good chunk of SE QLD under -2 to -4, so not bad. Shear > > > profile sees southerlies at 850mb which is a little wierd (well, not > > > what I was expecting anyway). Shear on Thursday...well, you might have > > > asked yourself on Wednesday "Geez, could you get a worse shear profile > > > than below 10 knots until 300mb where it's 30 knots?" And the answer > > > would be "Yes, have a look at the following day" - below 10 knots until > > > 300mb when it's 15 knots!!! > > > > > > 850 temps will also be quite high (around 19C), almost too warm (cap > > > problem). But I guess we'll see. I think we should at least see a > > > storm on Wed/Thurs - but interested to hear other people's opinions! > > > There was some dry CJs on the ranges today. > > > > > > Currently 25/23 here, very humid! 22/17 in Toowoomba, I wonder if the > > > DP can maintain itself, then I might be able to make use of my fog > > > lights on the new car too! :) > > > > > > -- > > > Anthony Cornelius > > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > > (07) 3390 4812 > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host p154-tnt4.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.134.154] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 15:38:30 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Night out NSW ASWA ad non-ASWA people Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Getting a little bored - thought a night out TONIGHT would be in order. If you are interested, please give me a call 9627 1943. Anyone is invited. The venue will be either Wentworthville Leaues Club, Penritth Leagues or Mean Fiddler. We shall decide based on the interest from those around. But please call rather than e-mail - ta. See you there and I mean, anyone is invited to attend and have a chat and a laugh. ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.171.104.192] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Cold Pool next week? Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 16:51:30 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2002 05:51:30.0673 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7DF8E10:01C1D22E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, The unisys MRF site (http://weather.unisys.com/mrf/9panel/mrf_500p_9panel_aus.html) has a cold pool moving roughly SW/NE across Victoria Tuesday and Wednesday. With the slight increase in moisture expected with the next trough/front and reasonably high temperatures (for late March) here in northern Victoria I'd expect to see a few odd rumblies Tuesday afternoon/evening. Any thoughts? Kevin from Wycheproof. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Cold Pool next week? Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 17:46:36 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com check the weatherzone forum, some of the guys are just about wetting their pants over that cold pool. Thunda Hunta ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Phyland To: Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:21 PM Subject: aus-wx: Cold Pool next week? > Hi every1, > > The unisys MRF site > (http://weather.unisys.com/mrf/9panel/mrf_500p_9panel_aus.html) has a cold > pool moving roughly SW/NE across Victoria Tuesday and Wednesday. With the > slight increase in moisture expected with the next trough/front and > reasonably high temperatures (for late March) here in northern Victoria I'd > expect to see a few odd rumblies Tuesday afternoon/evening. > > Any thoughts? > > Kevin from Wycheproof. > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: aus-wx: aswa confrence Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 17:48:59 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hi jane
 
where is the aswa conference to be held?
 
Thunda  Hunta
From: "richard modistach" To: "weather mailing list" Subject: aus-wx: Fw: ASWA Meetings. Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:02:04 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com thanks for the post kathryn, sorry you didn't get many at the meeting. as i said before i don't make it up to adelaide very often so changing to 3 monthly meetings rather than monthly simply means i wont be able to make it less often. i think if you're having trouble with numbers then going to 3 monthly may very well help this and having it on the last friday of each season is an exellent idea as you are not clashing with any of the silly seasons,stormchasing excluded. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathryn Wall To: Richard Modistach Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: ASWA Meetings. > To Richard, > > At tonights meeting an idea was brought up about having our > ASWA meetings once every 3 months (preferably the last Friday of > each season e.g Last Friday of Summer which would be in Feb). This > meeting could also possibly be catered so those that have to travel a > way to get to the meeting could have something to eat and drink, > and any footage/pictures taken would be shown. > > As there was not a majority of members at the meeting it could > not be offically voted upon. So therefore I would like each of > you to say whether you agree or disagree about this scenario. > Majority will rule on how many replies I receive. > > > Thankyou in advance for your feedback > > Kathryn Wall > SA State Rep > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Tropo stuff. Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 21:43:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2002 10:43:18.0980 (UTC) FILETIME=[8BA33040:01C1D257] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all, and Phil.
A very nice baroclinic  cloud area over almost all of south China, the only places missing out are along the coast including Hong Kong!, interesting to see that the former tropical low now west of the southern Philippines still has an  upper outflow signature as it moves over the south China Sea. In the southern Hemisphere a very interesting area has developed near the Cocos islands with a large central high topped overcast area with some outflow extending towards Australia, this region has some significant low level convergence at the moment. There also seems to be a continuation of a weak monsoonal surge over the north of Australia which may intensify as the moderate strength long wave trough deepens over the western half of Australia over the next 24 hours. regards Clyve H.
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Polar Stuff. Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 21:51:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2002 10:51:01.0305 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F346290:01C1D258] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
There seems to be some interest in the development of a significant cold pool over the south east of Aus later Monday or into Tuesday, there seems to be some risk of this at the moment especially if the large High west of Perth remains slow moving and extends a ridge to the south east which may aid in the 'slingshot' of cold air towards the Northeast, it will be interesting to watch the Aust Bight region over the next 24 to 48 hours for the appearance of a cold pool especially at 500hpa, Another factor is the potential deepening of the upper long wave trough on Sunday and the intensification of the sub tropical jet. The region of the western Aus Bight is already showing positive vorticity. Lets keep our fingers crossed. regards Clyve H.
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 07:08:46 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tropo stuff. X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes Clyve, we have been watching this one. There is much speculation in the local forum here that it could force the HKO to hoist its earliest ever typhoon signal (previous record being 9th April), but I doubt that it can do much. At present the Strong Monsoon Signal is hoisted, as is the Thunderstorm Warning and yesterday we had an Amber Rainstorm Warning. I had a wild ride back to Hong Kong on the ferry yesterday afternoon. With the monsoon blowing like it is, it will be impossible for the Tropical Depression to do anything. While JTWC is forecasting it to recurve towards Hainan, I think it is more likely to drift across towards Vietnam without intensifying much at all. I think we will have it wet and wild and windy for a couple more days and then it will start to clear up and heat up again. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 21:43:44 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Tropo stuff. > Hi all, and Phil. > A very nice baroclinic cloud area over almost all of south China, the > only places missing out are along the coast including Hong Kong!, > interesting to see that the former tropical low now west of the > southern Philippines still has an upper outflow signature as it moves > over the south China Sea. In the southern Hemisphere a very interesting > area has developed near the Cocos islands with a large central high > topped overcast area with some outflow extending towards Australia, > this region has some significant low level convergence at the moment. > There also seems to be a continuation of a weak monsoonal surge over > the north of Australia which may intensify as the moderate strength > long wave trough deepens over the western half of Australia over the > next 24 hours. regards Clyve H. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [202.76.163.153] From: "Trish Webster" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Night out NSW ASWA ad non-ASWA people Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:52:59 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2002 01:52:59.0959 (UTC) FILETIME=[A06FA470:01C1D2D6] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jimmy, well if i lived closer to sydney i would love to attend your outing. Trish >From: Jimmy Deguara >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: Night out NSW ASWA ad non-ASWA people >Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 15:38:30 +1100 > >Hi all, > >Getting a little bored - thought a night out TONIGHT would be in order. If >you are interested, please give me a call 9627 1943. Anyone is invited. > >The venue will be either Wentworthville Leaues Club, Penritth Leagues or >Mean Fiddler. We shall decide based on the interest from those around. But >please call rather than e-mail - ta. > >See you there and I mean, anyone is invited to attend and have a chat and a >laugh. > >----------------------------------------- >Jimmy Deguara >Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > >from >Schofields, Sydney >NSW Australia > >e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > >Web Page with Michael Bath > >Australian Severe Weather Home Page >http://www.australiasevereweather.com > >President of the Australian Severe Weather Association >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p154-tnt4.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.134.154] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:59:41 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Night out NSW ASWA ad non-ASWA people Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com There were 3 people that attended. My myself and I :)) Jimmy Deguara At 12:52 PM 24/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hi Jimmy, well if i lived closer to sydney i would love to attend your outing. > >Trish > > >>From: Jimmy Deguara >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>Subject: aus-wx: Night out NSW ASWA ad non-ASWA people >>Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 15:38:30 +1100 >> >>Hi all, >> >>Getting a little bored - thought a night out TONIGHT would be in order. If >>you are interested, please give me a call 9627 1943. Anyone is invited. >> >>The venue will be either Wentworthville Leaues Club, Penritth Leagues or >>Mean Fiddler. We shall decide based on the interest from those around. But >>please call rather than e-mail - ta. >> >>See you there and I mean, anyone is invited to attend and have a chat and a >>laugh. >> >>----------------------------------------- >>Jimmy Deguara >>Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher >> >>from >>Schofields, Sydney >>NSW Australia >> >>e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au >> >>Web Page with Michael Bath >> >>Australian Severe Weather Home Page >>http://www.australiasevereweather.com >> >>President of the Australian Severe Weather Association >>http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>message. >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Lightning in Victoria Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:06:55 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com All, There's a prefrontal trough moving into the west of Victoria which is already kicking off storms near Hamilton. Interesting to note the higher dewpoints across Victoria (8 - 12C with temps in the low 30's) as compared to SA (same temps - dewpoints are half that). Things should get more interesting as it tracks across the state today. Am radio is picking up lightning within ~300kms of Melbourne & it's only just started. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.49.122.231] From: "Karl Lijnders" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning in Victoria Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:22:17 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2002 04:22:17.0479 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B88B970:01C1D2EB] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com What are your thoughts Jane and all on the strength of this pre-frontal trough tomorrow? Karl :) >From: "Jane ONeill" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: "Aussie-wx" >Subject: aus-wx: Lightning in Victoria >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:06:55 +1100 > >All, > >There's a prefrontal trough moving into the west of Victoria which is >already kicking off storms near Hamilton. Interesting to note the >higher dewpoints across Victoria (8 - 12C with temps in the low 30's) as >compared to SA (same temps - dewpoints are half that). Things should >get more interesting as it tracks across the state today. > >Am radio is picking up lightning within ~300kms of Melbourne & it's only >just started. > >Jane > >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >Melbourne Storm Chasers >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >ASWA - Victoria >http://www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp2.ihug.co.nz: Host p174-nas6.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.216.174] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning in Victoria Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:23:16 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Looks like a moderate risk for a storm in Melbourne tomorrow but i think NSW will get the real action mid to late week. Steven W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Lijnders" To: Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 4:22 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning in Victoria What are your thoughts Jane and all on the strength of this pre-frontal trough tomorrow? Karl :) >From: "Jane ONeill" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: "Aussie-wx" >Subject: aus-wx: Lightning in Victoria >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:06:55 +1100 > >All, > >There's a prefrontal trough moving into the west of Victoria which is >already kicking off storms near Hamilton. Interesting to note the >higher dewpoints across Victoria (8 - 12C with temps in the low 30's) as >compared to SA (same temps - dewpoints are half that). Things should >get more interesting as it tracks across the state today. > >Am radio is picking up lightning within ~300kms of Melbourne & it's only >just started. > >Jane > >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >Melbourne Storm Chasers >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >ASWA - Victoria >http://www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Max King" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Night out NSW ASWA ad non-ASWA people Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:27:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sorry Jim I was out and didn't get this till Sunday nite :( -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2002 1:00 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Night out NSW ASWA ad non-ASWA people There were 3 people that attended. My myself and I :)) Jimmy Deguara At 12:52 PM 24/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hi Jimmy, well if i lived closer to sydney i would love to attend your outing. > >Trish > > >>From: Jimmy Deguara >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>Subject: aus-wx: Night out NSW ASWA ad non-ASWA people >>Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 15:38:30 +1100 >> >>Hi all, >> >>Getting a little bored - thought a night out TONIGHT would be in order. If >>you are interested, please give me a call 9627 1943. Anyone is invited. >> >>The venue will be either Wentworthville Leaues Club, Penritth Leagues or >>Mean Fiddler. We shall decide based on the interest from those around. But >>please call rather than e-mail - ta. >> >>See you there and I mean, anyone is invited to attend and have a chat and a >>laugh. >> >>----------------------------------------- >>Jimmy Deguara >>Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher >> >>from >>Schofields, Sydney >>NSW Australia >> >>e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au >> >>Web Page with Michael Bath >> >>Australian Severe Weather Home Page >>http://www.australiasevereweather.com >> >>President of the Australian Severe Weather Association >>http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>message. >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.171.104.214] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:55:37 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2002 09:55:37.0646 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C9004E0:01C1D31A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times I've posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've been referred to the weatherzone chat site. Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't those subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a thousand cuts effort? I've been on this list since October 1998 and have enjoyed nearly every minute of it but I don't appreciate the idea that "everybody knows we're elsewhere" without being told. This came up about 18 months ago when the yahoo.crap came up. It didn't work with two venues then and quite clearly it's not working now. Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why posts to it are seldom responded to? Yours in frustration, Kevin from Wycheproof. P.S. Yeah...it's not just because MY statements are so earth-shattering either... I've learned more here than I've taught! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:16:07 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:55, you wrote: > Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of > choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times I've > posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've been > referred to the weatherzone chat site. > > Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't > those subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a > thousand cuts effort? Personally I've most recently thought of aussie-wx list as being the place to report breaking news in weather situations, and weatherzone as more of a place for discussions of previous events, theory, etc. Anyone else think this way? Thanks, David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8nadqF2H7v0XOYBIRAnGaAJ4tcTdBEDv+zvdhTKpbVA6i2Xh1NACfeog6 Vu92Lqb3QtGIcRigjr3+0mw= =X5fH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:56:43 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Long live the aussie-wx list ! I guess with not too much wx happening posts are a little slow. Hopefully that will change in the comming days with this upper low expected to move through SA/VIC/NSW in the comming days. I think there is a lot of speculation but i guess we wont know too much until things start to happen. I believe Paul Yole and one of the SA people have some photos of storms from today, how about you guys post the links to those so everyone can see them :) Matthew Smith Kevin Phyland wrote: > Hi every1, > > Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of > choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times I've > posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've been > referred to the weatherzone chat site. > > Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't those > subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a thousand > cuts effort? > > I've been on this list since October 1998 and have enjoyed nearly every > minute of it but I don't appreciate the idea that "everybody knows we're > elsewhere" without being told. > > This came up about 18 months ago when the yahoo.crap came up. It didn't work > with two venues then and quite clearly it's not working now. > > Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why posts > to it are seldom responded to? > > Yours in frustration, > Kevin from Wycheproof. > > P.S. Yeah...it's not just because MY statements are so earth-shattering > either... I've learned more here than I've taught! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Rosalina Champion" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: weatherzone radar Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:28:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, I have not been able to access the radar around Brisbane since the 21st. The picture is always stationary at 21st March. Is something wrong with their radar or is it my computer? Rosalina _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free at yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:35:00 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:55 PM 24/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why >posts to it are seldom responded to? I hope it stiull exists, as I haven't really bothered with Weatherzone. It's a nice service and all, but as far as I'm concerned, web forums suck. The basic problem for me is they're inefficient for handling very volumes of traffic (I can expect to see in the order of 300 or more emails a day, and there's no way I could handle that rate of web based posts. I just find I'm doing a lot more waiting than reading on those things. :( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:16:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Kevin & all, I read a response to your email about that cold pool from Clyve Herbert (the Subject: Polar stuff), so I'm not quite sure why you say that there was no response to your post??? Yes there is Weatherzone, but it's totally different to the aussie-wx list. The aussie-wx list has alway maintained a high standard of technical & semi-technical discussion & remains a forum for professionals & semi-professionals to be able to voice their opinions with respect. The list has been very stable over the years with ~250 members - we are still here. Weatherzone is a cloud of a different type!! There is room for both..... We are still here!!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- > Hi every1, > > Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of > choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times I've > posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've been > referred to the weatherzone chat site. > > Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't those > subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a thousand > cuts effort? > > I've been on this list since October 1998 and have enjoyed nearly every > minute of it but I don't appreciate the idea that "everybody knows we're > elsewhere" without being told. > > This came up about 18 months ago when the yahoo.crap came up. It didn't work > with two venues then and quite clearly it's not working now. > > Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why posts > to it are seldom responded to? > > Yours in frustration, > Kevin from Wycheproof. > > P.S. Yeah...it's not just because MY statements are so earth-shattering > either... I've learned more here than I've taught! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" , "Stormchase List" , "Wx-Chase" Subject: aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 00:41:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey All, Well, after the thoughts of another storm season passing buy, and beginning to look forward to the US season, I were quite surprised to wake up today and for Macca to tell me that it looks like there could be storms out my way this afternoon. After numerous disappointments, I waited around to see what would happen. Around 3pm, I noticed a cell too my WSW. After being yelled at by some of the guys in #weather to get my ass out there (Thanks Guys...you know who you are!! :oD ), I grabbed all my camera equipment and headed off. After jumping in the car and heading 15kms down the road, I realized that the little computer thingy in the car said I only had 20kms more fuel to go before I started pushing. I turned the car around and headed back to Murtoa to re-fill....only to remember...IT WAS SUNDAY!!!! (Murtoa has 2 fuel station...neither of which are open on Sundays), so I then had to call the chase off. Fortunately I did as the cell I were after collapsed not long after. Well, I got home and jumped back on IRC, where I spent quite a bit of time doing some more of the website. While checking outside occasionally, I noticed that there was more stuff building up out to the West. I decided to just keep checking occasionally to see what this stuff would do. then around 5:30pm, I heard my first rumble of thunder. After watching this cell that had developed and move South of me, I decided to go out and have another look at the sky, to see stuff still building around me. It was then that I seen a Cg drop from a fresh bit of precipitation. Running back in and grabbing the video camera, tripod and digicam, I headed out to a little spotting place about 500 meters from my home. I set up the tripod and sat the camera on it to get some lightning, while I took a photo of the sunset on the rain curtain. After a while, the storm I were watching started to move away, but another storm was bearing down on me rapidly. I switch the video camera to this storm, and were not disappointed. In a matter of minutes, I had a flang!!! I continued filming, while heading for the closest cover (A small building), and stood next to that. It was then that I had 6 flangs, all in a 2 minute period, one of them hitting about 600 meters away from me to my SE!!!! After about 10mins, it started raining heavily, so I pointed the camera out to the approximate SE and just filmed the CG's and, I'm not sure if they are, clear air strikes (In the form of a CG, it came out of the base, and never hit the ground or go back up into the cloud). It was getting pretty dark by this stage, and I were quickly running out of battery power, but fortunately, the storm had one more surprise for me. Out of nowhere, a huge flang hit right in the lens of the camera. I don't know how far away it was, but it was damn close as the crack of the thunder hit me before the flash had finished!!!!! It was intense enough, that this building I were leaning against, I actually felt the vibration of the thunder through it. After that storm moved away, I decided to head in as I were about to lose all battery power, even though there were still flashes and the occasional CG from my North around to the East and South. Returned home and set up the vid cam with the power point inside, and let it record for about 20mins before I brought it back in as not much else was happening. Not a bad way to end the season :o))))))) I have put images of the day online at http://www.lexicon.net/yolestorm/032402storms/ I hope to get some video online soon too, as soon as I find a decent capture program (Anyone know of one that will run on a Celeron 400 with 128mb ram???) PaulY Paul Yole Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA http://www.lexicon.net/yolestorm/ "I never knew what life meant, until I found that special person I had been looking for. Now she is blessing us with our little angel, all those nightmare memories from the past all seem to be a forgotten dream...I love you Kelley" - PaulY (2002) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: weatherzone radar Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:05:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Rosalina, I presume you are talking about the 128K Bureau radar seeing as you specified a date displayed on the image. Both Bureau and TWC radars for Brisbane are up to date. Your problem may be due to your browser caching the old image. If so, doing a refresh should solve it (Ctrl+F5 in MS Internet Explorer, Ctrl+R in Netscape). Andrew Miskelly. Weatherzone Webmaster. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rosalina Champion Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2002 10:28 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: weatherzone radar Hi everyone, I have not been able to access the radar around Brisbane since the 21st. The picture is always stationary at 21st March. Is something wrong with their radar or is it my computer? Rosalina _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free at yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:34:14 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm afraid it's twenty times easier for me to be on the aussie-wx list and read e-mails than it is for me to read through the forums. I read the e-mail in a browser and can do so from anywhere in the world on the Internet, so it's not a software issue. It's just that it takes time to wade through the forum and there tends to be too many comments which are not really worth the time I have to spend wading through. With the e-mails, I must confess that I don't read every posting but looking at the subjects can help me decide which threads I want to follow. The one major advantage of the forum is that threads are grouped logically together. I receive from 200 to 400 e-mails each day (most of them junk which gets deleted rather than read), but guess I just find it easier to go through the e-mail rather than go to the forum. I must say that although my formal education on things meteorological finished more than 40 years ago, I have never stopped learning and this list is a great place to learn. May it roll along for many more years! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:55:37 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest > Hi every1, > > Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of > choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times > I've > posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've > been > referred to the weatherzone chat site. > > Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't > those > subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a > thousand > cuts effort? > > I've been on this list since October 1998 and have enjoyed nearly every > minute of it but I don't appreciate the idea that "everybody knows > we're > elsewhere" without being told. > > This came up about 18 months ago when the yahoo.crap came up. It didn't > work > with two venues then and quite clearly it's not working now. > > Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why > posts > to it are seldom responded to? > > Yours in frustration, > Kevin from Wycheproof. > > P.S. Yeah...it's not just because MY statements are so earth-shattering > either... I've learned more here than I've taught! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Chas & Helen Osborn" To: "Aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: Southern lights Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 02:18:32 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Everyone
 
Some southern lights to the south of here at 2am edst. Not a brilliant show just the odd search light and a constant glow.
 
Chas
Strahan Tasmania
From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie wx" Subject: aus-wx: NSW Storm potential 26/27 march Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 03:53:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2002 16:50:54.0207 (UTC) FILETIME=[0FFD80F0:01C1D354] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi all

Looking at AVN Tuesday Evening holds Some potential for Some storm Activity Around the riverina/Southern Tablelands regions of NSW as well as off the NSW South Coast. at 6z (5pm AEST) Cape is proged to be 1400 over the Riverina and 1800 off the coast, with -5lis about in both regions, by 09z (8pm AEST) Cape has dropped off to 1000 in the riverina but off the coast it will rise to 2000 with -5li's still in both regions.

Looking at the 25th (today..Duh!!!)), storms look likely trough the western Riverina and western NSW down to Melbourne.

Having a quick look at the 27th (AVN data not Avialiable yet) it appears the trough will move North perhaps giving Sydney and NE NSW a bit of a go....i will update when the AVN data becomes Avialiable.

What are other peoples thoughts???

Click on the images for larger versions....

CAPE

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape03z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape06z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape09z26-3-02.png

LI's

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx03z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx06z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx09z26-3-02.png

Getting the camera ready :D

Cheers
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Canberra ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Victorian storms Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 06:25:08 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, What a nice way to open a new week - lightning in the northeastern suburbs of Melbourne & 6.2mm to 6am.... The aviation forecast reads GUSTY N'LY FLOW AND MOD/SEV TURB BLW 7000FT S OF RANGES AHEAD OF FRONT MILDURA/HORSHAM/CAPE OTWAY 11Z, FCST ROBINVALE TO ARARAT/FLIKI 17Z, BALRANALD/BALLARAT/FLINDERS IS. 23Z, DENILIQUIN/MANGALORE/SALE 05Z. SCATTERED SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS EAST OF AND WITHIN 90NM W OF FRONT BECOMING MORE WDSPR BY 02Z. ISOL SHOWERS WEST OF FRONT. FOG PATCHES IN GIPPSLAND AND IN NW CLEARING AFTER 23Z. W'LY SURFACE FLOW AFTER FRONT WITH LOW CLOUD AREAS SEA AND LAND NEAR COAST. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p65-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.65] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:01:23 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:41 AM 25/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >I were quite surprised to wake up today and for Macca to tell me that it >looks like there >could be storms out my way this afternoon. After numerous disappointments, >I waited around to see >what would happen. Around 3pm, I noticed a cell too my WSW. After being >yelled at by some of the >guys in #weather to get my ass out there Hi Paul, don't go to sleep in the US (Oklahoma) or an F5 will steamroll you over....... Seriously, when we were out there, we would not sleep unless we could see that the tornado watches/warnings passed away from our counties - even at 2am and you had another chase day to wake to (this also happened on the morning of the 29th May 2001). There is no mucking around there. Cheers. ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:35:35 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jimmy & all, This is the dust plume that Clyve was talking about - it was certainly a bit nerve-wracking & I kept one eye on it the whole time we were there - the only place it was going was up into the Cb overhead. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon23.JPG Dust plume http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon24.JPG http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon25.JPG Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- Hi Jimmy. There's no mucking about in Aus: either, when the Mullaley supercell (TDK 2000+1) started to rotate (anticyclonically) and a rather large dust plume suddenly spun up in a paddock only a few hundred meters away it was one of the few times I had a serious rush of worry adrenalin. Australia is a big empty country and its all out there waiting for us. best wishes Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimmy Deguara To: Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 7:01 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02 > At 12:41 AM 25/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: > >I were quite surprised to wake up today and for Macca to tell me that it > >looks like there > >could be storms out my way this afternoon. After numerous disappointments, > >I waited around to see > >what would happen. Around 3pm, I noticed a cell too my WSW. After being > >yelled at by some of the > >guys in #weather to get my ass out there > > > Hi Paul, don't go to sleep in the US (Oklahoma) or an F5 will steamroll you > over....... > > Seriously, when we were out there, we would not sleep unless we could see > that the tornado watches/warnings passed away from our counties - even at > 2am and you had another chase day to wake to (this also happened on the > morning of the 29th May 2001). There is no mucking around there. > > Cheers. > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:24:35 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2002 00:24:36.0201 (UTC) FILETIME=[71902590:01C1D393] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

I agree with Jane.  There's room for both.  Originally I thought everyone had decamped here and gone over there, but this list has shown admirable resilience.  This list tends to be slightly more technical, the tone is more respectful (less agro and argy bargy) and while not wishing to decry the service Weatherzone offers, I think it is worthwhile having a completely independant list (this issue about independance has been discussed before in this forum).  Besides this list was here first.

Like you Kevin, I only found out about Weatherzone, by accident - a fortuitous accident nevertheless.  I think Weatherzone has added to both to the stocks of ASWA and the propinquity within this list and I believe the mutual synergies and the sense of competition (with the alternatives it offers) is healthy for both fora.

When a topic is introduced, the discussion here (aussie wx) stays more relevant than it does in Weatherzone, where things often get tangential pretty quickly, sometimes admittedly and serendipitously with interesting pathways and conclusions to the discussion.

I enjoy your witty contribution to this list Kevin.  As someone who hails from near Wycheproof, I empathize with your good humoured frustration with the lack of weather in the region (immortalised in the name of a winery near Inglewood - Passing Clouds).  Keep up the input and hopefully we'll see you over in Weatherzone.

Michael

 



 

>From: "Jane ONeill"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest
>Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:16:44 +1100
>
>Kevin & all,
>
>I read a response to your email about that cold pool from Clyve Herbert
>(the Subject: Polar stuff), so I'm not quite sure why you say that there
>was no response to your post??? Yes there is Weatherzone, but it's
>totally different to the aussie-wx list. The aussie-wx list has alway
>maintained a high standard of technical & semi-technical discussion &
>remains a forum for professionals & semi-professionals to be able to
>voice their opinions with respect. The list has been very stable over
>the years with ~250 members - we are still here.
>
>Weatherzone is a cloud of a different type!! There is room for
>both.....
>
>We are still here!!!
>
>Jane
>
>--------------------------------
>Jane ONeill - Melbourne
>cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
>Melbourne Storm Chasers
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com
>
>ASWA - Victoria
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>--------------------------------
>
>
> > Hi every1,
> >
> > Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of
> > choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times
>I've
> > posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've
>been
> > referred to the weatherzone chat site.
> >
> > Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't
>those
> > subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a
>thousand
> > cuts effort?
> >
> > I've been on this list since October 1998 and have enjoyed nearly
>every
> > minute of it but I don't appreciate the idea that "everybody knows
>we're
> > elsewhere" without being told.
> >
> > This came up about 18 months ago when the yahoo.crap came up. It
>didn't work
> > with two venues then and quite clearly it's not working now.
> >
> > Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why
>posts
> > to it are seldom responded to?
> >
> > Yours in frustration,
> > Kevin from Wycheproof.
> >
> > P.S. Yeah...it's not just because MY statements are so
>earth-shattering
> > either... I've learned more here than I've taught!
> >
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X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:11:32 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2002 01:11:33.0061 (UTC) FILETIME=[008ADF50:01C1D39A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Further to my earlier post, weatherzone is good (better than aussie-wx) for breaking weather situations, with a vast network of people able to post observations of unfolding events.



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I agree with Jane.  There's room for both.  Originally I thought everyone had decamped here and gone over there, but this list has shown admirable resilience.  This list tends to be slightly more technical, the tone is more respectful (less agro and argy bargy) and while not wishing to decry the service Weatherzone offers, I think it is worthwhile having a completely independant list (this issue about independance has been discussed before in this forum).  Besides this list was here first.

Like you Kevin, I only found out about Weatherzone, by accident - a fortuitous accident nevertheless.  I think Weatherzone has added to both to the stocks of ASWA and the propinquity within this list and I believe the mutual synergies and the sense of competition (with the alternatives it offers) is healthy for both fora.

When a topic is introduced, the discussion here (aussie wx) stays more relevant than it does in Weatherzone, where things often get tangential pretty quickly, sometimes admittedly and serendipitously with interesting pathways and conclusions to the discussion.

I enjoy your witty contribution to this list Kevin.  As someone who hails from near Wycheproof, I empathize with your good humoured frustration with the lack of weather in the region (immortalised in the name of a winery near Inglewood - Passing Clouds).  Keep up the input and hopefully we'll see you over in Weatherzone.

Michael

 



 

>From: "Jane ONeill"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest
>Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:16:44 +1100
>
>Kevin & all,
>
>I read a response to your email about that cold pool from Clyve Herbert
>(the Subject: Polar stuff), so I'm not quite sure why you say that there
>was no response to your post??? Yes there is Weatherzone, but it's
>totally different to the aussie-wx list. The aussie-wx list has alway
>maintained a high standard of technical & semi-technical discussion &
>remains a forum for professionals & semi-professionals to be able to
>voice their opinions with respect. The list has been very stable over
>the years with ~250 members - we are still here.
>
>Weatherzone is a cloud of a different type!! There is room for
>both.....
>
>We are still here!!!
>
>Jane
>
>--------------------------------
>Jane ONeill - Melbourne
>cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
>Melbourne Storm Chasers
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com
>
>ASWA - Victoria
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>--------------------------------
>
>
> > Hi every1,
> >
> > Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of
> > choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times
>I've
> > posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've
>been
> > referred to the weatherzone chat site.
> >
> > Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't
>those
> > subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a
>thousand
> > cuts effort?
> >
> > I've been on this list since October 1998 and have enjoyed nearly
>every
> > minute of it but I don't appreciate the idea that "everybody knows
>we're
> > elsewhere" without being told.
> >
> > This came up about 18 months ago when the yahoo.crap came up. It
>didn't work
> > with two venues then and quite clearly it's not working now.
> >
> > Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why
>posts
> > to it are seldom responded to?
> >
> > Yours in frustration,
> > Kevin from Wycheproof.
> >
> > P.S. Yeah...it's not just because MY statements are so
>earth-shattering
> > either... I've learned more here than I've taught!
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
>http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
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X-Originating-IP: [203.220.169.252] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Cheers! Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:17:59 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2002 01:17:59.0312 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6C41900:01C1D39A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, While my original email was born out of frustration I'm very gratified to hear that aussie-wx is still alive and kicking! :)) On a more pertinent note, the SDS got partially erased here last night with thunderstorms forming late in the afternoon and giving a distant light show to my south and south-west. Thinking by about 9 p.m. that the show was over I retired to bed only to be woken by distant rumbles at about 3 a.m. I went outside (ostensibly for a relief exercise) and was amazed to see lightning in all four quadrants but stars overhead! The storms lingered for a few hours giving us enough rain to settle the dust until sunrise. Early this morning cjs and a small cell already visible to my west (~8.30 a.m.) but no substantial development since. Long live this trough/front/cold pool/jet set-up!! Kevin from Wycheproof. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:36:35 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: weatherzone radar X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Join the "Caught behind the Cache Club". Every once in a while, somebody sets up some sort of a proxy-server/cache between me and Australia such that I cannot renew anything for days. I have refreshed browsers, turned off caching, walked to the server room and flushed the caches on the proxy server, tried by-passing the proxy server altogether, by-passed the firewall, and still being stuck with three-days-old pages. Unfortunately this always seems to happen just when something really interesting develops in Oz. This is not limited to weatherzone. When it happens, it seems to affect every site located in Oz but not sites located in US or HK. It can be rather maddening when it happens. I read an article somewhere which explained that in the interests of a faster Internet and a better sharing of bandwidth, the major IXs around the world have implemented a huge invisible proxy scheme which caches pages so that they do not have to be re-fetched through overloaded international channels. Now, I respect that these guys may want to limit international traffic, but surely such a system ought to be able to distinguish between static info pages and live sites such as webcams and weather radars. Anyway, that's my gripe for the day! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:05:23 +1100 Subject: RE: aus-wx: weatherzone radar > Rosalina, > > I presume you are talking about the 128K Bureau radar seeing as you > specified a date displayed on the image. Both Bureau and TWC radars for > Brisbane are up to date. > > Your problem may be due to your browser caching the old image. If so, > doing a refresh should solve it (Ctrl+F5 in MS Internet Explorer, > Ctrl+R > in Netscape). > > Andrew Miskelly. > Weatherzone Webmaster. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rosalina > Champion > Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2002 10:28 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: weatherzone radar > > > Hi everyone, > > I have not been able to access the radar around Brisbane since the > 21st. > The picture is always stationary at 21st March. Is something wrong > with > their radar or is it my computer? > > Rosalina > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free at yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Steve Baynham" To: "weather" Subject: aus-wx: photos Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:19:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hey all, developed and scanned my photos. still having trouble logging into the bsch site, so angelfire is my only other option. march the 1st. photos 1 & 2 were around the NSW/QLD border, then onto teh north coast/mid north coast. http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/02030101.jpg http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/02030102.jpg http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/02030103.jpg http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/02030104.jpg http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/02030105.jpg march 3rd, just a cloud i thought looked cool, had an anvil effect to it http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/02030301.jpg march 7th, a pretty good day for Canberra, some good storms around, but all to the north and east of ACT http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/02030701.jpg http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/02030702.jpg http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/02030703.jpg http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/02030704.jpg http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/02030705.jpg http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/02030706.jpg talk to yas again from Canberra soon. (in case i forgot to mention, am moving to canberra. i know the storms and life style don't compare to the gold coast, but the money is too good to pass up) cyas Steve Baynham icq : 26863574 Brisbane Storm Chasers http://www.bsch.au.com Homepage http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Night out NSW ASWA ad non-ASWA people Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:19:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jeez Jimmy, Must have been riveting conversation!! About as riveting as talking about SEQ weather these days. The reason why SEQ'landers don't contribute much to the list is because they have actually all carked it from shear boredom. I wonder if it will rain again before next Dec??? John. p.s. In total astonishment I saw on the TV, it pissing down at ANZ stadium on the Bronco's vs Bulldogs match Friday Night, certainly didn't piss down at my place - not even a hint of a dribble. If nothing falls before 31st and it sure don't look likely, then we will have close to a record dry March out our way. Been warm too, 4 consecutive days last week around/above 35C. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 12:00 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Night out NSW ASWA ad non-ASWA people There were 3 people that attended. My myself and I :)) Jimmy Deguara At 12:52 PM 24/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hi Jimmy, well if i lived closer to sydney i would love to attend your outing. > >Trish > > >>From: Jimmy Deguara >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>Subject: aus-wx: Night out NSW ASWA ad non-ASWA people >>Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 15:38:30 +1100 >> >>Hi all, >> >>Getting a little bored - thought a night out TONIGHT would be in order. If >>you are interested, please give me a call 9627 1943. Anyone is invited. >> >>The venue will be either Wentworthville Leaues Club, Penritth Leagues or >>Mean Fiddler. We shall decide based on the interest from those around. But >>please call rather than e-mail - ta. >> >>See you there and I mean, anyone is invited to attend and have a chat and a >>laugh. >> >>----------------------------------------- >>Jimmy Deguara >>Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher >> >>from >>Schofields, Sydney >>NSW Australia >> >>e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au >> >>Web Page with Michael Bath >> >>Australian Severe Weather Home Page >>http://www.australiasevereweather.com >> >>President of the Australian Severe Weather Association >>http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>message. >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:41:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Nice pix, Score that one as a dead set Nader F0.5 I reckon. If 'worry adrenalin' is a euphemism for being 'scared shirtless' (sic) then I confirm you don't need to go to the US for that. Being caught on the exposed flank near the top of Mt. Warning when a storm explodes overhead, lightning blasts the path just 20m away - and there just aint no place safe to go... Last time I went to the US, the only thing which kept we awake at night was a mugger shooting an old lady for her wallet outside my hotel window in downtown LA. True story. John. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jane ONeill Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 9:36 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02 Jimmy & all, This is the dust plume that Clyve was talking about - it was certainly a bit nerve-wracking & I kept one eye on it the whole time we were there - the only place it was going was up into the Cb overhead. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon23.JPG Dust plume http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon24.JPG http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon25.JPG Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- Hi Jimmy. There's no mucking about in Aus: either, when the Mullaley supercell (TDK 2000+1) started to rotate (anticyclonically) and a rather large dust plume suddenly spun up in a paddock only a few hundred meters away it was one of the few times I had a serious rush of worry adrenalin. Australia is a big empty country and its all out there waiting for us. best wishes Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimmy Deguara To: Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 7:01 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02 > At 12:41 AM 25/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: > >I were quite surprised to wake up today and for Macca to tell me that it > >looks like there > >could be storms out my way this afternoon. After numerous disappointments, > >I waited around to see > >what would happen. Around 3pm, I noticed a cell too my WSW. After being > >yelled at by some of the > >guys in #weather to get my ass out there > > > Hi Paul, don't go to sleep in the US (Oklahoma) or an F5 will steamroll you > over....... > > Seriously, when we were out there, we would not sleep unless we could see > that the tornado watches/warnings passed away from our counties - even at > 2am and you had another chase day to wake to (this also happened on the > morning of the 29th May 2001). There is no mucking around there. > > Cheers. > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.ihug.com.au: Host p65-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.65] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:53:43 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: RE: aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane and Clyve, Nice pics. Very nice microbursts. If I recall correctly, you received outflow after this? Was there a lot of inflow beforehand and from what direction? There doesn't seem to be a tight organised circulation leading to the base. The CB was fairly high based that day too. Considering the air was drying out aloft and hail was reported by you guys, then microbursts were expected. My comments Clyve and Jane were more of a joke considering Paul is heading for the US soon and in the heart of Oklahoma. I was serious in terms of sleeping at night - I tend to sleep more comfortably here. I would certainly shit bricks if this was heading for me: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/oun/storms/19790410/index.html Thanks for posting the pictures. Jimmy Deguara At 10:35 AM 25/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Jimmy & all, > >This is the dust plume that Clyve was talking about - it was certainly a bit >nerve-wracking & I kept one eye on it the whole time we were there - the >only place it was going was up into the Cb overhead. >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon23.JPG > >Dust plume >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon24.JPG >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon25.JPG > >Jane >--------------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >Melbourne Storm Chasers >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >ASWA - Victoria >http://www.severeweather.asn.au >--------------------------------------- > > > >Hi Jimmy. >There's no mucking about in Aus: either, when the Mullaley supercell (TDK >2000+1) started to rotate (anticyclonically) and a rather large dust plume >suddenly spun up in a paddock only a few hundred meters away it was one of >the few times I had a serious rush of worry adrenalin. Australia is a big >empty country and its all out there waiting for us. best wishes Clyve >Herbert. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jimmy Deguara >To: >Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 7:01 AM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02 > > > > At 12:41 AM 25/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: > > >I were quite surprised to wake up today and for Macca to tell me that it > > >looks like there > > >could be storms out my way this afternoon. After numerous >disappointments, > > >I waited around to see > > >what would happen. Around 3pm, I noticed a cell too my WSW. After being > > >yelled at by some of the > > >guys in #weather to get my ass out there > > > > > > Hi Paul, don't go to sleep in the US (Oklahoma) or an F5 will steamroll >you > > over....... > > > > Seriously, when we were out there, we would not sleep unless we could see > > that the tornado watches/warnings passed away from our counties - even at > > 2am and you had another chase day to wake to (this also happened on the > > morning of the 29th May 2001). There is no mucking around there. > > > > Cheers. > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: RE:Sleep during Storms (was "aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02") Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:13:20 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My comments Clyve and Jane were more of a joke considering Paul is heading for the US soon and in the heart of Oklahoma. I was serious in terms of sleeping at night - I tend to sleep more comfortably here. Jimmy, The sleep thing will probably be until August...after that, I probably won't even remember how to spell it, let alone know what it is, especially after those 2am feeds that Kelley has told me I will be doing...LOL. I know though that when I hear my first tornado siren, then I'm gonna freak out. PaulY +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: Development out West Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:28:09 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey all, Just a quick email. Looked out my window just now and there's already some nice congestus going up in a few places. Am about to go out and get a pic of one especially good CJ. After last night and losing my SDS, this is the cherry on top!!! :o))) Horsham's Obs at 9am - METAR YHSM 242200Z 22010KT //// 16/14 Q1012 RMK RF00.0/001.2 PaulY Paul Yole Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA Cell Phone#: (040) 081-9519 http://www.lexicon.net/yolestorm/ "I never knew what life meant, until I found that special person I had been looking for. Now she is blessing us with our little angel, all those nightmare memories from the past all seem to be a forgotten dream...I love you Kelley" - PaulY (2002) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: NSW STA To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 18:13:54 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 25/03/2002 06:13:54 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com IDN28300 TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST NSW Severe Thunderstorm Advice BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 1611 on Monday the 25th of March 2002 The Bureau of Meteorology in Sydney has issued a Severe Thunderstorm Advice for people in the following weather forecast districts: Riverina South West Slopes south of a line West Wyalong to Gundagai This advice is valid until 7pm and it should not be used after this time. Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area this afternoon. Some of these are expected to be severe bringing damaging winds. ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 18:43:02 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:25 AM 25/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Morning all, > >What a nice way to open a new week - lightning in the northeastern >suburbs of Melbourne & 6.2mm to 6am.... Well, I bummed out badly. Nothing Sun night, Only saw 2 distant flashes Mon morning around 6AM, and on Monday afternoon, the storms kept avoiding me. :( Thought I was up for a train chase, and as luck would have it, even had my camera on me (purely by accident!), but the stars of the show were being coy. :-( Noticed a lot of cells suddenly moving further south than initial motion would suggest. This southerly movement is bad news for me. :( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "GAVIN O'BRIEN" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:44:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That's good to hear! Gavin SSWW Canberra A.C.T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 11:16 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest > Kevin & all, > > I read a response to your email about that cold pool from Clyve Herbert > (the Subject: Polar stuff), so I'm not quite sure why you say that there > was no response to your post??? Yes there is Weatherzone, but it's > totally different to the aussie-wx list. The aussie-wx list has alway > maintained a high standard of technical & semi-technical discussion & > remains a forum for professionals & semi-professionals to be able to > voice their opinions with respect. The list has been very stable over > the years with ~250 members - we are still here. > > Weatherzone is a cloud of a different type!! There is room for > both..... > > We are still here!!! > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > Hi every1, > > > > Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of > > choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times > I've > > posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've > been > > referred to the weatherzone chat site. > > > > Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't > those > > subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a > thousand > > cuts effort? > > > > I've been on this list since October 1998 and have enjoyed nearly > every > > minute of it but I don't appreciate the idea that "everybody knows > we're > > elsewhere" without being told. > > > > This came up about 18 months ago when the yahoo.crap came up. It > didn't work > > with two venues then and quite clearly it's not working now. > > > > Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why > posts > > to it are seldom responded to? > > > > Yours in frustration, > > Kevin from Wycheproof. > > > > P.S. Yeah...it's not just because MY statements are so > earth-shattering > > either... I've learned more here than I've taught! > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp2.ihug.co.nz: Host p37-tnt1.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.215.37] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: Storms for NSW Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:18:20 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Looks favourable for a thundery week over NSW. Situations like these I wished i lived in NSW.
Will watch with interest anyway.
Cheers
Steven W 
X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:42:39 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com, From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Storms for NSW Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:18 PM 25/03/2002 +1200, Steven Williams wrote: >Looks favourable for a thundery week over NSW. Situations like these I >wished i lived in NSW. >Will watch with interest anyway. Just turn them on for Wednesday in Sydney. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Peter Matters" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian storms Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:40:32 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Finished work at Puckapunyal at 1630, and saw storm clouds with fibrous anvils to the west. At 1830 it hit Broadford with 7-8 flangs in 5mins(one 50-100m from the house, 2 parallel ones at 200m and others up to 500m away. I couldn't get hold of a vidcam, but got some stills of the cell with flanking line to the north (almost overhead) and various shots of the main updraught. Also some pics of what appeared like a small meso to the north(but was only condensation scud), and distant updraughts to the east, frontlit orange in the setting sun. I will email the pics to Jane in the next few days. Peter (Didjman) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 6:43 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian storms > > Noticed a lot of cells suddenly moving further south than initial motion > would suggest. This southerly movement is bad news for me. :( > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: supply problems To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:00:34 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 25/03/2002 08:00:38 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Just called Supply Interuptions in Queanbeyan, many towns reported with no power at this stage. Bega, Junee, Young, Temora, Leeton, Moruya and many more. Wagga still has power at this stage, although may not for long by the looks of lightning tracker. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. 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Storm just passed through Ungarie, Condobolin area, lightning strikes caused small outage. Seems to be moving SE. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. 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Just been fiddling with long exposures on the digital camera, but so far, haven't been lucky. :( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Storm potential 26/27 march Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:52:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
One thing is certain the next three days are a weather forecasters nightmare, as models vary somewhat and slight differences in wind and cloud cover will bring totally different weather.
 
All models agree that late Tuesday and early Wednesday will be wet in eastern NSW, probably wettest over the ranges. Katoomba should do well with lifting from the humid north winds. The winds may bring some moisture for some isolated heavy falls in places like the southern Illawarra that tradionally do well in NE events. The far south coast is interesting as even 750 steering winds are slight onshore, some thunder coming off the ocean is possible. As for the rest of NSW the cloud cover is going to be the problem in regard to storm potential. Less cloud and better jet stream setup in far NE NSW may see severe storms there.
 
The models do not agree for the Thursday run. MRF develops a weak low over central NSW and takes it offshore for Thursday. GASP is similar. This brings further rain ( after a brief clearance ) and humid NE/E winds to central coast NSW, heavy showers and even localised flash flooding is possible with these scenarios. NGAPS however plays safe and clears most of southern NSW under SW/S winds.
 
Regards
Michael
 
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Subject: aus-wx: NSW Storm potential 26/27 march

Hi all

Looking at AVN Tuesday Evening holds Some potential for Some storm Activity Around the riverina/Southern Tablelands regions of NSW as well as off the NSW South Coast. at 6z (5pm AEST) Cape is proged to be 1400 over the Riverina and 1800 off the coast, with -5lis about in both regions, by 09z (8pm AEST) Cape has dropped off to 1000 in the riverina but off the coast it will rise to 2000 with -5li's still in both regions.

Looking at the 25th (today..Duh!!!)), storms look likely trough the western Riverina and western NSW down to Melbourne.

Having a quick look at the 27th (AVN data not Avialiable yet) it appears the trough will move North perhaps giving Sydney and NE NSW a bit of a go....i will update when the AVN data becomes Avialiable.

What are other peoples thoughts???

Click on the images for larger versions....

CAPE

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape03z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape06z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape09z26-3-02.png

LI's

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx03z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx06z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx09z26-3-02.png

Getting the camera ready :D

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From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:55:21 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > to go to the US for that. Being caught on the exposed flank near the top of > Mt. Warning when a storm explodes overhead, lightning blasts the path just > 20m away - and there just aint no place safe to go... > Actually the metal platform at the top of Mount Warning is recommended as the place to shelter during a storm ( according to the sign ). I guess it acts like a car body, hopefully the metal cage protects you. Michael +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:52:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ah well, we didn't quite make it to the top, so didn't know about that. As it was, you have never seen 3 guys get down Mt. Warning so fast... Hell, even the leaches didn't have a chance. John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Thompson Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 8:55 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02 > to go to the US for that. Being caught on the exposed flank near the top of > Mt. Warning when a storm explodes overhead, lightning blasts the path just > 20m away - and there just aint no place safe to go... > Actually the metal platform at the top of Mount Warning is recommended as the place to shelter during a storm ( according to the sign ). I guess it acts like a car body, hopefully the metal cage protects you. Michael +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Storms for NSW Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:43:16 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Steve,
 
It will certainly be a welcome change to the last few weeks. Makes me wonder if it will be anything similar to the rain event we copped at the start of Feb this year. Here's hoping for some thunder anyway, but going off the LI's and CAPE the best spot would be that imaginary island about 100km off the NSW south coast. Might be tornado time again as with the Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race.
 
Cheers
Andrew
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Looks favourable for a thundery week over NSW. Situations like these I wished i lived in NSW.
Will watch with interest anyway.
Cheers
Steven W 

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From: "Rosalina Champion" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: weatherzone radar Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:59:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Andrew, Bussy and Phil, Thank u all for answering me. I have done all that you have suggested and now the radar image is still on 21st and other images are on 22nd March. This is maddeningly frustrating. I didn't realise just how addicted I was. First thing when I turn the computer on I go straight to weatherzone and check out the weather. Then to the list and see what everyone is saying. I feel like I've been cast aside from the family. Can't believe how important this has become to me. Oh well - it will probably do me good to have to redirect my thoughts for a few days. How long does this usually last for? I would like to send whoever is responsible to the South Pole :-). Rosalina > > Hi everyone, > > I have not been able to access the radar around Brisbane since the 21st. > The picture is always stationary at 21st March. Is something wrong with > their radar or is it my computer? > > Rosalina > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free at yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Trough Vic (Leopold) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:23:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2002 22:23:11.0353 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B748E90:01C1D382] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
A rather shallow wind change through here at Leopold at 0903hrs, wind swung from 010 to 190-200 degrees, again another change similar to the previous two this month, with a very thin moist low level surge moving along the coast accompanied by low level fracto cu about 150 to 200m and a marked increase in humidity locally. The mid levels look conditionally unstable so we can look forward to some general activity across Vic today, especially with the potential for a region of positive vorticity over the state later today and tonight, its about time....regards Clyve H.
From: Tim Eckert To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-Originating-IP: [203.220.182.225] Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:04:13 +1000 X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Well I have had an enjoyable couple of days. Sunday I was up at Halls Gap after photographing a wedding when some Cu started drifting in over the range to my surprise. (as I had no idea of the forecast). After speaking to Jane about the situation, I headed home towards Dunkeld and Hamilton to intercept the line of storms heading SE. I probably broke a few speeding laws along the Grampians Road as it is a shocker for trying to see anything in the sky. Two huge ranges on each side of you! I got to Dunkeld and decided to head a few k's east of town to a clearing before the storm hit. Unfortunaetly it was quite short lived but I got some good pics from it. Some good Cgs and heavy rain. Driving back home to Coleraine I also got some more pics of storms to the north. Later in the evening I got some nice sunset pics and then to the NE horizon there were flashes every second or two from the storms that Paul Yole probably described about. Today, I was a bit slow out of bed and didn't check the weather until lunch but then quickly realised I had to leave straight away if I was to catch the nearest storms. A line had already formed in eastern SA through to Horsham, so I again headed to Dunkeld. Soon after I had caught the storms and followed them through to Lake Bolac before heading back home. Torrential rain, road flooding, numerous Cgs and crawlers. Was FANTASTIC!! Unfortunately tonight I am still waiting for the rain to arrive. Mt Gambier has had 9mm already since 8pm as has all other south east towns so it must be coming soon. It is still very dry down here as we haven't recieved any rain from storms at home here in Coleraine. I will have all my photos up on the net as soon as possible. I will post the address again here when they are ready. Regards, Tim Eckert. Coleraine. __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:30:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2002 22:29:59.0395 (UTC) FILETIME=[6EAAD330:01C1D383] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jimmy. There's no mucking about in Aus: either, when the Mullaley supercell (TDK 2000+1) started to rotate (anticyclonically) and a rather large dust plume suddenly spun up in a paddock only a few hundred meters away it was one of the few times I had a serious rush of worry adrenalin. Australia is a big empty country and its all out there waiting for us. best wishes Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimmy Deguara To: Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 7:01 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase 03/24/02 > At 12:41 AM 25/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: > >I were quite surprised to wake up today and for Macca to tell me that it > >looks like there > >could be storms out my way this afternoon. After numerous disappointments, > >I waited around to see > >what would happen. Around 3pm, I noticed a cell too my WSW. After being > >yelled at by some of the > >guys in #weather to get my ass out there > > > Hi Paul, don't go to sleep in the US (Oklahoma) or an F5 will steamroll you > over....... > > Seriously, when we were out there, we would not sleep unless we could see > that the tornado watches/warnings passed away from our counties - even at > 2am and you had another chase day to wake to (this also happened on the > morning of the 29th May 2001). There is no mucking around there. > > Cheers. > > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 01:48:28 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: weatherzone radar Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Rosalina. Most ISP's have a cache system in place to provide the illusion of fast service as locally cached pages load quite quickly - the caches are only flushed from time to time which varies with ISP's depending on their settings - they also have a listing of cache exclusion domains of 'real time' servers for frequently updated or streaming sites such as weather servers and webcams. I encountered this problem a few years ago when I moved onto my current ISP as my brother Phil's Dr Disk Hong pages were getting way out of date no matter how often I clicked the 'reload' button. Sending my ISP a list of my prefered 'real time' domains fixed it quickly - I still occasionally have this problem with overseas sites when the internet gets really busy for a few days due to the international caching that Phil mentioned, but usually not with Australian sites. You could try contacting your ISP and give them the weatherzone URL to add to their cache exclusion list, however when I noticed your email address I realised that if that ISP or one of their affiliates is also your ISP then this is probably pointless as they will most likely just ignore you or tell you there is nothing wrong with their servers so it is not their problem - after all if you use non-affiliated websites and lists you might not see the ads they have been paid to put in your face! If this is the case then I suggest you shop around for a locally based ISP - mine gives great service here on the Gold Coast with a local 24 hr help desk that has usually managed to attend to my occasional service difficulties quickly and efficiently, and continues to do so now that they have been taken over by one of Australias larger ISP's. Regards, Carl. >Hi Andrew, Bussy and Phil, > >Thank u all for answering me. I have done all that you have suggested and >now the radar image is still on 21st and other images are on 22nd March. > >This is maddeningly frustrating. I didn't realise just how addicted I was. >First thing when I turn the computer on I go straight to weatherzone and >check out the weather. Then to the list and see what everyone is saying. >I feel like I've been cast aside from the family. Can't believe how >important this has become to me. Oh well - it will probably do me good to >have to redirect my thoughts for a few days. How long does this usually >last for? I would like to send whoever is responsible to the South Pole >:-). > >Rosalina > >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I have not been able to access the radar around Brisbane since the 21st. >> The picture is always stationary at 21st March. Is something wrong with >> their radar or is it my computer? >> >> Rosalina >> > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free at yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. 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Well Tonight (mon) i saw 1 flash and got a little bit of rain (like 0.5mm, although it has just starting raining again).
 
As Jimmy (on WZ forum) and Michael Thompson have said, cloud will be the limiting factor (and something i forgot about untill i was getting to sleep at 6am monday morning), the ingredients are there, but cloud cover will be a hinderence. today in Canberra we should see a nice rain total +15mm with perhaps the Embeded isolated storm toward the evening and into the night.
 
Tomorrow is somewhat of a hard one to judge. Cape and Li's drop right off around the SE corner. Cape will be about 600 and li' of -2, but when the cloud cover clears we should see storms pop up, escpecially near the coast.
 
the trough contracts NE by 03z on the 27th with Cape 1600 and Li's of -5 around the Centeral/N. coasts.
 
Thursday looks to be more rain for the SE, but NE NSW/SE QLD would be the place to be (Again!!!)
 
ill be ready with the camera today, but with the expected cloud and the best of it coming at 5pm, the picture oportunities will be limited...
 
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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Storm potential 26/27 march

One thing is certain the next three days are a weather forecasters nightmare, as models vary somewhat and slight differences in wind and cloud cover will bring totally different weather.
 
All models agree that late Tuesday and early Wednesday will be wet in eastern NSW, probably wettest over the ranges. Katoomba should do well with lifting from the humid north winds. The winds may bring some moisture for some isolated heavy falls in places like the southern Illawarra that tradionally do well in NE events. The far south coast is interesting as even 750 steering winds are slight onshore, some thunder coming off the ocean is possible. As for the rest of NSW the cloud cover is going to be the problem in regard to storm potential. Less cloud and better jet stream setup in far NE NSW may see severe storms there.
 
The models do not agree for the Thursday run. MRF develops a weak low over central NSW and takes it offshore for Thursday. GASP is similar. This brings further rain ( after a brief clearance ) and humid NE/E winds to central coast NSW, heavy showers and even localised flash flooding is possible with these scenarios. NGAPS however plays safe and clears most of southern NSW under SW/S winds.
 
Regards
Michael
 
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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:53 AM
Subject: aus-wx: NSW Storm potential 26/27 march

Hi all

Looking at AVN Tuesday Evening holds Some potential for Some storm Activity Around the riverina/Southern Tablelands regions of NSW as well as off the NSW South Coast. at 6z (5pm AEST) Cape is proged to be 1400 over the Riverina and 1800 off the coast, with -5lis about in both regions, by 09z (8pm AEST) Cape has dropped off to 1000 in the riverina but off the coast it will rise to 2000 with -5li's still in both regions.

Looking at the 25th (today..Duh!!!)), storms look likely trough the western Riverina and western NSW down to Melbourne.

Having a quick look at the 27th (AVN data not Avialiable yet) it appears the trough will move North perhaps giving Sydney and NE NSW a bit of a go....i will update when the AVN data becomes Avialiable.

What are other peoples thoughts???

Click on the images for larger versions....

CAPE

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape03z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape06z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape09z26-3-02.png

LI's

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx03z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx06z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx09z26-3-02.png

Getting the camera ready :D

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Jimmy Deguara At 03:53 AM 26/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Well Tonight (mon) i saw 1 flash and got a little bit of rain (like 0.5mm, >although it has just starting raining again). > >As Jimmy (on WZ forum) and Michael Thompson have said, cloud will be the >limiting factor (and something i forgot about untill i was getting to >sleep at 6am monday morning), the ingredients are there, but cloud cover >will be a hinderence. today in Canberra we should see a nice rain total >+15mm with perhaps the Embeded isolated storm toward the evening and into >the night. > >Tomorrow is somewhat of a hard one to judge. Cape and Li's drop right off >around the SE corner. Cape will be about 600 and li' of -2, but when the >cloud cover clears we should see storms pop up, escpecially near the coast. > >the trough contracts NE by 03z on the 27th with Cape 1600 and Li's of -5 >around the Centeral/N. coasts. > >Thursday looks to be more rain for the SE, but NE NSW/SE QLD would be the >place to be (Again!!!) > >ill be ready with the camera today, but with the expected cloud and the >best of it coming at 5pm, the picture oportunities will be limited... > >Cheers >------------------------------------------------ >Simon Angell >Canberra ACT >www.canberra-wx.com >------------------------------------------------ >this message is virus free. NAVirus file 19-3-02 >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >----- Original Message ----- >From: Michael Thompson >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 9:52 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Storm potential 26/27 march > >One thing is certain the next three days are a weather forecasters >nightmare, as models vary somewhat and slight differences in wind and >cloud cover will bring totally different weather. > >All models agree that late Tuesday and early Wednesday will be wet in >eastern NSW, probably wettest over the ranges. Katoomba should do well >with lifting from the humid north winds. The winds may bring some moisture >for some isolated heavy falls in places like the southern Illawarra that >tradionally do well in NE events. The far south coast is interesting as >even 750 steering winds are slight onshore, some thunder coming off the >ocean is possible. As for the rest of NSW the cloud cover is going to be >the problem in regard to storm potential. Less cloud and better jet stream >setup in far NE NSW may see severe storms there. > >The models do not agree for the Thursday run. MRF develops a weak low over >central NSW and takes it offshore for Thursday. GASP is similar. This >brings further rain ( after a brief clearance ) and humid NE/E winds to >central coast NSW, heavy showers and even localised flash flooding is >possible with these scenarios. NGAPS however plays safe and clears most of >southern NSW under SW/S winds. > >Regards >Michael > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Simon Angell >To: Aussie wx >Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:53 AM >Subject: aus-wx: NSW Storm potential 26/27 march > >Hi all >Looking at AVN Tuesday Evening holds Some potential for Some storm >Activity Around the riverina/Southern Tablelands regions of NSW as well as >off the NSW South Coast. at 6z (5pm AEST) Cape is proged to be 1400 over the >Riverina and 1800 off the coast, with -5lis about in both regions, by 09z >(8pm AEST) Cape has dropped off to 1000 in the riverina but off the coast >it will rise to 2000 with -5li's still in both regions. >Looking at the 25th (today..Duh!!!)), storms look likely trough the >western Riverina and western NSW down to Melbourne. >Having a quick look at the 27th (AVN data not Avialiable yet) it appears >the trough will move North perhaps giving Sydney and NE NSW a bit of a >go....i will update when the AVN data becomes Avialiable. >What are other peoples thoughts??? >Click on the images for larger versions.... >CAPE >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape03z26-3-02.png > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape06z26-3-02.png >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape09z26-3-02.png > >LI's >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx03z26-3-02.png > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx06z26-3-02.png >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx09z26-3-02.png > >Getting the camera ready :D >Cheers >-------------------------------------- >Simon Angell >Canberra ACT >www.canberra-wx.com >-------------------------------------- >this message is virus free. >NAVirus file 19-3-02 >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 08:02:41 +1030 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > >Further to my earlier post, weatherzone is good (better than aussie-wx) >for breaking weather situations, with a vast network of people able to >post observations of unfolding events. Hi Michael I'm sure you are right, because of the sheer numbers involved. My question is - why would so many people prefer the hassles of a web based forum to the speed and ease of a mailing list? I don't get it! Weatherzone is fine for posting images or post action chases, but for 'instant' 'as it happens' storm news, surely email is the go? Perhaps everyone has a broadband connection and isn't worried about the speed. Don't get me wrong - there IS a place for both forums, it's just that I check aussie-weather every day, weatherzone perhaps every 2 or 3 days. It's been pretty quiet breaking weather wise until recently - maybe the list will pick up if we have an active autumn / winter period. Long live the list! Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." Albert Speer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 08:18:43 +1030 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide rain drought broken Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Hi all. Our 56 day rain drough (2nd longest ever I think) was broken last night by 12mm of beautiful showers. Up to 27mm fell in some suburbs. No storm activity beyond that fast moving line that developed near the eastern border yesterday. Of course the roads became very greasy, so there have been all sorts of accidents overnight. Now we've got THAT out of the way, and settled the dust, lets roll out the real weather. Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." Albert Speer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Darwin and north. Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:10:26 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2002 22:09:52.0563 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9C0A030:01C1D449] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
There's an interesting cloud splotch northeast of Darwin with a rather  good central convective core, outflow is limited, this area has moved off the central New Guinea  highland region and seems associated with enhanced surface convergence. Over the central Indian ocean is what appears to be a large and significant TC, the outflow of which can be traced to  Australia. regards Clyve H.
From: "Craig Arthur" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:12:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I must admit I use the forum a heck of a lot more than the list, however, I find that the list provides a much better discussion of the technical side of weather. Often in the forum, people will post every few minutes during a developing weather situation, occasionally repeating what they or others have just said. This leads to threads which are either difficult to read for useful information, or head off-topic rapidly. The list is better IMO for the discussion, because those posting spend time preparing an email, so threads stay on topic. For speed, the forum is near real time, you post and the html page is recreated for everyone to see straight away. (Mark or Andrew may be able to give a better description than that). I certainly appreciate the input onto the list from intelligent folk such as Clyve et al. I second Phil's comment, long live the list. Craig Arhtur -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Phil Bagust Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2002 8:33 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest > > >Further to my earlier post, weatherzone is good (better than aussie-wx) >for breaking weather situations, with a vast network of people able to >post observations of unfolding events. Hi Michael I'm sure you are right, because of the sheer numbers involved. My question is - why would so many people prefer the hassles of a web based forum to the speed and ease of a mailing list? I don't get it! Weatherzone is fine for posting images or post action chases, but for 'instant' 'as it happens' storm news, surely email is the go? Perhaps everyone has a broadband connection and isn't worried about the speed. Don't get me wrong - there IS a place for both forums, it's just that I check aussie-weather every day, weatherzone perhaps every 2 or 3 days. It's been pretty quiet breaking weather wise until recently - maybe the list will pick up if we have an active autumn / winter period. Long live the list! Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." Albert Speer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: weatherzone radar Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:56:09 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I think our problem here is that I'm a complete goose! Having read Rosalina's email the other day I went and checked the images and could have sworn they were up to date - but may have misread it seems. They are indeed stuck on the 21st at this point. This means one of our processes is not running properly which I will now go and look in to. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2002 2:48 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: weatherzone radar Hi Rosalina. Most ISP's have a cache system in place to provide the illusion of fast service as locally cached pages load quite quickly - the caches are only flushed from time to time which varies with ISP's depending on their settings - they also have a listing of cache exclusion domains of 'real time' servers for frequently updated or streaming sites such as weather servers and webcams. I encountered this problem a few years ago when I moved onto my current ISP as my brother Phil's Dr Disk Hong pages were getting way out of date no matter how often I clicked the 'reload' button. Sending my ISP a list of my prefered 'real time' domains fixed it quickly - I still occasionally have this problem with overseas sites when the internet gets really busy for a few days due to the international caching that Phil mentioned, but usually not with Australian sites. You could try contacting your ISP and give them the weatherzone URL to add to their cache exclusion list, however when I noticed your email address I realised that if that ISP or one of their affiliates is also your ISP then this is probably pointless as they will most likely just ignore you or tell you there is nothing wrong with their servers so it is not their problem - after all if you use non-affiliated websites and lists you might not see the ads they have been paid to put in your face! If this is the case then I suggest you shop around for a locally based ISP - mine gives great service here on the Gold Coast with a local 24 hr help desk that has usually managed to attend to my occasional service difficulties quickly and efficiently, and continues to do so now that they have been taken over by one of Australias larger ISP's. Regards, Carl. >Hi Andrew, Bussy and Phil, > >Thank u all for answering me. I have done all that you have suggested >and now the radar image is still on 21st and other images are on 22nd >March. > >This is maddeningly frustrating. I didn't realise just how addicted I >was. First thing when I turn the computer on I go straight to >weatherzone and check out the weather. Then to the list and see what >everyone is saying. I feel like I've been cast aside from the family. >Can't believe how important this has become to me. Oh well - it will >probably do me good to have to redirect my thoughts for a few days. >How long does this usually last for? I would like to send whoever is >responsible to the South Pole :-). > >Rosalina > >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I have not been able to access the radar around Brisbane since the >> 21st. The picture is always stationary at 21st March. Is something >> wrong with their radar or is it my computer? >> >> Rosalina >> > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free at yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm Weather-Ezine LR forecasting archives: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ezines/ezineindex.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide rain drought broken Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:29:21 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Last night it has been pretty interesting weather. At first during late afternoon to evening light rain band at first. Then we had short sudden of light to very heavy showers overnight with a hailshower at 1:45am. Lightning was also observed overnight to the South. 3 CC lightning I saw so far. Got 14.6mm to 9am from manual rain gauge. Min of 10.9C to 9am. Edinburgh AP got gust to 37 knots last night. Nice late rainfall and dry spell has been broken. Its over. From Nathan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bagust" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:18 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide rain drought broken > >Hi all. > > Our 56 day rain drough (2nd longest ever I think) was broken last night by > 12mm of beautiful showers. Up to 27mm fell in some suburbs. No storm > activity beyond that fast moving line that developed near the eastern > border yesterday. > > Of course the roads became very greasy, so there have been all sorts of > accidents overnight. > > Now we've got THAT out of the way, and settled the dust, lets roll out the > real weather. > > Phil > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." > Albert Speer > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:24:55 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Apologies for my last post. Obviously it was not intended for the list. I hit reply in the wrong Inbox. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Craig Arthur Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2002 9:13 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Hi all, I must admit I use the forum a heck of a lot more than the list, however, I find that the list provides a much better discussion of the technical side of weather. Often in the forum, people will post every few minutes during a developing weather situation, occasionally repeating what they or others have just said. This leads to threads which are either difficult to read for useful information, or head off-topic rapidly. The list is better IMO for the discussion, because those posting spend time preparing an email, so threads stay on topic. For speed, the forum is near real time, you post and the html page is recreated for everyone to see straight away. (Mark or Andrew may be able to give a better description than that). I certainly appreciate the input onto the list from intelligent folk such as Clyve et al. I second Phil's comment, long live the list. Craig Arhtur -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Phil Bagust Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2002 8:33 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest > > >Further to my earlier post, weatherzone is good (better than aussie-wx) >for breaking weather situations, with a vast network of people able to >post observations of unfolding events. Hi Michael I'm sure you are right, because of the sheer numbers involved. My question is - why would so many people prefer the hassles of a web based forum to the speed and ease of a mailing list? I don't get it! Weatherzone is fine for posting images or post action chases, but for 'instant' 'as it happens' storm news, surely email is the go? Perhaps everyone has a broadband connection and isn't worried about the speed. Don't get me wrong - there IS a place for both forums, it's just that I check aussie-weather every day, weatherzone perhaps every 2 or 3 days. It's been pretty quiet breaking weather wise until recently - maybe the list will pick up if we have an active autumn / winter period. Long live the list! Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." Albert Speer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:20:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just caught up on the vic thread - I've never seen so much absolute dribble in my life! It's embarrassing! To ice the cake we've now got some Nathan Thompson gold on the list. Boof. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Craig Arthur Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2002 9:13 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Hi all, I must admit I use the forum a heck of a lot more than the list, however, I find that the list provides a much better discussion of the technical side of weather. Often in the forum, people will post every few minutes during a developing weather situation, occasionally repeating what they or others have just said. This leads to threads which are either difficult to read for useful information, or head off-topic rapidly. The list is better IMO for the discussion, because those posting spend time preparing an email, so threads stay on topic. For speed, the forum is near real time, you post and the html page is recreated for everyone to see straight away. (Mark or Andrew may be able to give a better description than that). I certainly appreciate the input onto the list from intelligent folk such as Clyve et al. I second Phil's comment, long live the list. Craig Arhtur -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Phil Bagust Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2002 8:33 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest > > >Further to my earlier post, weatherzone is good (better than aussie-wx) >for breaking weather situations, with a vast network of people able to >post observations of unfolding events. Hi Michael I'm sure you are right, because of the sheer numbers involved. My question is - why would so many people prefer the hassles of a web based forum to the speed and ease of a mailing list? I don't get it! Weatherzone is fine for posting images or post action chases, but for 'instant' 'as it happens' storm news, surely email is the go? Perhaps everyone has a broadband connection and isn't worried about the speed. Don't get me wrong - there IS a place for both forums, it's just that I check aussie-weather every day, weatherzone perhaps every 2 or 3 days. It's been pretty quiet breaking weather wise until recently - maybe the list will pick up if we have an active autumn / winter period. Long live the list! Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." Albert Speer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 08:53:14 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north. X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Tropical Cyclone Ikala (20S) is indeed a large and significant TC which a bunch of us on another list have been tracking for days. According to JTWC it should reach hurricane strength within the next 24 hours. As it is never likely to approach anywhere populated by more than fish and seagulls, it won't make much news except for us few dedicated nuts who delight in tracking these things. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:10:26 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Darwin and north. > Hi all. > There's an interesting cloud splotch northeast of Darwin with a rather > good central convective core, outflow is limited, this area has moved > off the central New Guinea highland region and seems associated with > enhanced surface convergence. Over the central Indian ocean is what > appears to be a large and significant TC, the outflow of which can be > traced to Australia. regards Clyve H. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Matt Bonser" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:12:04 +1050 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide rain drought broken X-User-Info: 203.8.18.100 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We got 13mm of rain at Morphett Vale up to 4am and had a nice thunderstorm pass through around 9pm. With the thunderstorm we had some very heavy rain and a few lightning strikes were reported around the Cherry Gardens area, although I don't think there was any damage. Hopefully this will be the end to the storm drought Adelaide has experienced for the past few months. Bring it on Cheers Matt B +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: storms western nsw To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:52:26 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 26/03/2002 12:52:28 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI all. Have outages occurring at Condobolin, Nyngan, Hermidale, Yeoval, Tottenham , Burgooney. Nyngan apparently has a very good active storm at the present. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Rosalina Champion" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: weatherzone radar Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:59:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Andrew, Thank u very much for fixing the radar. It is back to normal now. Am I the only person who obsessively checks in each day? or whenever clouds start appearing? It is soooooooo good to have everything up and running again. Rosalina From: Andrew Miskelly > I think our problem here is that I'm a complete goose! > > Having read Rosalina's email the other day I went and checked the images > and could have sworn they were up to date - but may have misread it > seems. They are indeed stuck on the 21st at this point. > > This means one of our processes is not running properly which I will now > go and look in to. > > Andrew. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free at yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:05:18 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Sat pic Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com NSW VIS sat pic on the TWC site looks incredible at the moment. http://www.weatherzone.com.au/latest/sat_vis_NSW_latest.jpg Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Rosalina Champion" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: weatherzone radar Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:03:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Carl, Thanks for all the help. I am so glad everything is back to normal. Are we looking toward wild weather over the holidays? I am loving it down here. So far the weather has definitely been cooler than Brissy. Rosalina _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free at yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:13:34 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Storm potential 26/27 march Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I wouldnt bother looking at CAPE/LI in this situation, it has been all over the place.

Sat pics are your best bet as Jimmy has mentioned. Find some sort of sfc wind boundary and where your upper/mid level winds will be the best, and predict where the cool air above will be passing over, with a good clearing, bit of heating and ok DP's, and fingers crossed :)

Matt Smith

Simon Angell wrote:

Well Tonight (mon) i saw 1 flash and got a little bit of rain (like 0.5mm, although it has just starting raining again). As Jimmy (on WZ forum) and Michael Thompson have said, cloud will be the limiting factor (and something i forgot about untill i was getting to sleep at 6am monday morning), the ingredients are there, but cloud cover will be a hinderence. today in Canberra we should see a nice rain total +15mm with perhaps the Embeded isolated storm toward the evening and into the night. Tomorrow is somewhat of a hard one to judge. Cape and Li's drop right off around the SE corner. Cape will be about 600 and li' of -2, but when the cloud cover clears we should see storms pop up, escpecially near the coast. the trough contracts NE by 03z on the 27th with Cape 1600 and Li's of -5 around the Centeral/N. coasts. Thursday looks to be more rain for the SE, but NE NSW/SE QLD would be the place to be (Again!!!) ill be ready with the camera today, but with the expected cloud and the best of it coming at 5pm, the picture oportunities will be limited... Cheers
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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Storm potential 26/27 march
 One thing is certain the next three days are a weather forecasters nightmare, as models vary somewhat and slight differences in wind and cloud cover will bring totally different weather. All models agree that late Tuesday and early Wednesday will be wet in eastern NSW, probably wettest over the ranges. Katoomba should do well with lifting from the humid north winds. The winds may bring some moisture for some isolated heavy falls in places like the southern Illawarra that tradionally do well in NE events. The far south coast is interesting as even 750 steering winds are slight onshore, some thunder coming off the ocean is possible. As for the rest of NSW the cloud cover is going to be the problem in regard to storm potential. Less cloud and better jet stream setup in far NE NSW may see severe storms there. The models do not agree for the Thursday run. MRF develops a weak low over central NSW and takes it offshore for Thursday. GASP is similar. This brings further rain ( after a brief clearance ) and humid NE/E winds to central coast NSW, heavy showers and even localised flash flooding is possible with these scenarios. NGAPS however plays safe and clears most of southern NSW under SW/S winds. RegardsMichael 
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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:53 AM
Subject: aus-wx: NSW Storm potential 26/27 march
 Hi all

Looking at AVN Tuesday Evening holds Some potential for Some storm Activity Around the riverina/Southern Tablelands regions of NSW as well as off the NSW South Coast. at 6z (5pm AEST) Cape is proged to be 1400 over the Riverina and 1800 off the coast, with -5lis about in both regions, by 09z (8pm AEST) Cape has dropped off to 1000 in the riverina but off the coast it will rise to 2000 with -5li's still in both regions.

Looking at the 25th (today..Duh!!!)), storms look likely trough the western Riverina and western NSW down to Melbourne.

Having a quick look at the 27th (AVN data not Avialiable yet) it appears the trough will move North perhaps giving Sydney and NE NSW a bit of a go....i will update when the AVN data becomes Avialiable.

What are other peoples thoughts???

Click on the images for larger versions....

CAPE

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape03z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape06z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/cape09z26-3-02.png

LI's

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx03z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx06z26-3-02.png

http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/lftx09z26-3-02.png

Getting the camera ready :D

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From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:24:51 +1100 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Phil I don't think there is one "place to be". I've subscribed to the list since '98 as well and find it a very interesting forum for discussion. I suspect the major reason for drop off in activity on the list is speed. Every post I have made in the last 6 months has taken on average 24 hours to reach the list. This is clearly next to useless if you need to converse in a timely manner. (It will be interesting to see how long this one takes because it appears to faster lately). For discussions that are not time critical though, the list is great. It's also worth noting that the higher visibility of the Weatherzone forum also brings many more weather newbies into the weather discussion communitity. Several of these have 'upgraded' to the aussie-wx list and/or ASWA membership over the past several months as well :) The key difference between the two is that Weatherzone forum is an open discussion and therefore attracts a more diverse range of participants. Everybody from professional mets through to school kids wanting to learn more and get involved. In constrast, the list as a subscription service is a more committed group and therefore tends to be more technically focussed. There's definitely room for both types so you shouldn't feel as though you are being pushed from one forum to another. Personally I tend to stay on Weatherzone because I prefer the structured threaded design and the speed of updates. For me it's easier to follow threads and I only read what interests me. But I am always on a high speed connection and I can appreciate why others on dial-up would prefer the faster download speed of email. I am sure both forums will survive and continue to foster. Mark Hardy The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. http://www.theweather.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Phyland Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2002 8:56 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Hi every1, Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times I've posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've been referred to the weatherzone chat site. Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't those subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a thousand cuts effort? I've been on this list since October 1998 and have enjoyed nearly every minute of it but I don't appreciate the idea that "everybody knows we're elsewhere" without being told. This came up about 18 months ago when the yahoo.crap came up. It didn't work with two venues then and quite clearly it's not working now. Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why posts to it are seldom responded to? Yours in frustration, Kevin from Wycheproof. P.S. Yeah...it's not just because MY statements are so earth-shattering either... I've learned more here than I've taught! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [202.5.161.1] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 03:39:09 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2002 03:39:16.0387 (UTC) FILETIME=[CDE8D730:01C1D477] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I can remember the last couple of severe thunderstorm events for Sydney and there was a hundred or so posts with reports coming in from everywhere all in the space of a hour or so. At one stage I can remember refreshing the page and getting 5 or 6 posts every five minutes over a half an hour period. Real time acton on the list is ok with me as I get the posts from others very soon almost all the time. Many others experience a large time lag between when they post, (or when others post) and when they receive them again. This is what makes the list poor for real-time events for some. > > >Further to my earlier post, weatherzone is good (better than aussie-wx) >for breaking weather situations, with a vast network of people able to >post observations of unfolding events. Hi Michael I'm sure you are right, because of the sheer numbers involved.  My question is - why would so many people prefer the hassles of a web based forum to the speed and ease of a mailing list?  I don't get it!  Weatherzone is fine for posting images or post action chases, but for 'instant' 'as it happens' storm news, surely email is the go? Perhaps everyone has a broadband connection and isn't worried about the speed.  Don't get me wrong - there IS a place for both forums, it's just that I check aussie-weather every day, weatherzone perhaps every 2 or 3 days. It's been pretty quiet breaking weather wise until recently - maybe the list will pick up if we have an active autumn / winter period. Long live the list! Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.."                                Albert Speer _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:39:13 +1100 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That one only took four hours to get through. A definite improvement on past performance but hardly what you would call responsive. Does anybody know why it is so slow? We do not have email problems anywhere else. Mark Hardy The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. http://www.theweather.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hardy Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2002 10:25 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Phil I don't think there is one "place to be". I've subscribed to the list since '98 as well and find it a very interesting forum for discussion. I suspect the major reason for drop off in activity on the list is speed. Every post I have made in the last 6 months has taken on average 24 hours to reach the list. This is clearly next to useless if you need to converse in a timely manner. (It will be interesting to see how long this one takes because it appears to faster lately). For discussions that are not time critical though, the list is great. It's also worth noting that the higher visibility of the Weatherzone forum also brings many more weather newbies into the weather discussion communitity. Several of these have 'upgraded' to the aussie-wx list and/or ASWA membership over the past several months as well :) The key difference between the two is that Weatherzone forum is an open discussion and therefore attracts a more diverse range of participants. Everybody from professional mets through to school kids wanting to learn more and get involved. In constrast, the list as a subscription service is a more committed group and therefore tends to be more technically focussed. There's definitely room for both types so you shouldn't feel as though you are being pushed from one forum to another. Personally I tend to stay on Weatherzone because I prefer the structured threaded design and the speed of updates. For me it's easier to follow threads and I only read what interests me. But I am always on a high speed connection and I can appreciate why others on dial-up would prefer the faster download speed of email. I am sure both forums will survive and continue to foster. Mark Hardy The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. http://www.theweather.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Phyland Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2002 8:56 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Hi every1, Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times I've posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've been referred to the weatherzone chat site. Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't those subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a thousand cuts effort? I've been on this list since October 1998 and have enjoyed nearly every minute of it but I don't appreciate the idea that "everybody knows we're elsewhere" without being told. This came up about 18 months ago when the yahoo.crap came up. It didn't work with two venues then and quite clearly it's not working now. Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why posts to it are seldom responded to? Yours in frustration, Kevin from Wycheproof. P.S. Yeah...it's not just because MY statements are so earth-shattering either... I've learned more here than I've taught! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sat pic Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:54:05 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2002 03:50:56.0451 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F2E2130:01C1D479] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com FWOR!!!! 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NAVirus file 19-3-02 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosalina Champion" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:59 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: weatherzone radar > Hi Andrew, > > Thank u very much for fixing the radar. It is back to normal now. > > Am I the only person who obsessively checks in each day? or whenever clouds > start appearing? > > It is soooooooo good to have everything up and running again. > > Rosalina > From: Andrew Miskelly > > > > I think our problem here is that I'm a complete goose! > > > > Having read Rosalina's email the other day I went and checked the images > > and could have sworn they were up to date - but may have misread it > > seems. They are indeed stuck on the 21st at this point. > > > > This means one of our processes is not running properly which I will now > > go and look in to. > > > > Andrew. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free at yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: "Australian Severe Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Storms Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:42:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi All,
 
I have just got the chance to look at the radar and wonder can anyone confirm if the current storm action to the east of Scone is indeed affecting the Barrington Tops.  We just got home from there and at this time yesterday we were up there thinking how interesting it would be in a big storm. 
 
From the disappointed   Mayos.
From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: outages To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:06:30 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 26/03/2002 04:06:34 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We are having busy time at this stage. the current areas with storms reported as are follows. Baldry, Cumnock, Condobolin, Tottenham, Ungarie, Tullamore, Yeoval, Tommingly, Nyngan, forbes (whole shire) feeder, Canowindra. Conductors have been reported down, transformers blown. . Warren, Orange, areas now .. power lines down in coonamble.. high winds and fierce storm now. Very black just sw west of Bathurst.. cowra also have power lines down.. many transformsers blown Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:05:44 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Mark. A good question, I cannot recall ever waiting more than 10 minutes to ever get a post through to the list. I can only assume that it is to do with the retry time delay associated with an intermediate SMTP relay server at your ISP. Likewise if you are talking to a local Exchange server (for example) it would depend upon how that has been set up - it may be batching emails every 4 hours. Regards, John W. (sent at 3.05pm EST) >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hardy Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:39 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest That one only took four hours to get through. A definite improvement on past performance but hardly what you would call responsive. Does anybody know why it is so slow? We do not have email problems anywhere else. Mark Hardy The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. http://www.theweather.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ashton H Anderson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:17:20 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
In response to Mark Hardy I too have had severe problems in getting my emails through to the list.
Most "listers" tell me it is because I'm using Ozemail. I still find this difficult to understand although Jimmy D told me just recently he has had the same problem with Ozemail.
Are you with Ozemail Mark Hardy ?  And Jimmy could you perhaps email me more detail so that I can follow up.
 
ashtonha at ozemail .com.au
 
As to which list, obviously both should co-exist happily.  For me Weatherzone suits me best. Obviously for connx reasons and for the "live" feel to discussions........but I'm a new Kid on the block and comparisons are odious as they say.
 
Ashton
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Hardy
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest

That one only took four hours to get through. A definite improvement on
past performance but hardly what you would call responsive. Does anybody
know why it is so slow? We do not have email problems anywhere else.

Mark Hardy
The Weather Company Pty. Ltd.
http://www.theweather.com.au


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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hardy
Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2002 10:25 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest


Phil
I don't think there is one "place to be". I've subscribed to the list
since '98 as well and find it a very interesting forum for discussion. I
suspect the major reason for drop off in activity on the list is speed.
Every post I have made in the last 6 months has taken on average 24
hours to reach the list. This is clearly next to useless if you need to
converse in a timely manner. (It will be interesting to see how long
this one takes because it appears to faster lately).  For discussions
that are not time critical though, the list is great. It's also worth
noting that the higher visibility of the Weatherzone forum also brings
many more weather newbies into the weather discussion communitity.
Several of these have 'upgraded' to the aussie-wx list and/or ASWA
membership over the past several months as well :)

The key difference between the two is that Weatherzone forum is an open
discussion and therefore attracts a more diverse range of participants.
Everybody from professional mets through to school kids wanting to learn
more and get involved. In constrast, the list as a subscription service
is a more committed group and therefore tends to be more technically
focussed.

There's definitely room for both types so you shouldn't feel as though
you are being pushed from one forum to another. Personally I tend to
stay on Weatherzone because I prefer the structured threaded design and
the speed of updates. For me it's easier to follow threads and I only
read what interests me. But I am always on a high speed connection and I
can appreciate why others on dial-up would prefer the faster download
speed of email.

I am sure both forums will survive and continue to foster.

Mark Hardy
The Weather Company Pty. Ltd.
http://www.theweather.com.au


-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Phyland
Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2002 8:56 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest


Hi every1,

Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of
choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times
I've
posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've
been
referred to the weatherzone chat site.

Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't
those
subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a
thousand
cuts effort?

I've been on this list since October 1998 and have enjoyed nearly every
minute of it but I don't appreciate the idea that "everybody knows we're

elsewhere" without being told.

This came up about 18 months ago when the yahoo.crap came up. It didn't
work
with two venues then and quite clearly it's not working now.

Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why
posts
to it are seldom responded to?

Yours in frustration,
Kevin from Wycheproof.

P.S. Yeah...it's not just because MY statements are so earth-shattering
either... I've learned more here than I've taught!

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From: "Glen O'Riley" To: "Weather List Aussie" Subject: aus-wx: temporary webcam for Krambach (near Taree) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:41:21 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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Krambach    2429
Phone: (02) 6559 1232
Fax: (02) 6559 1347
Telstra Mobile: (0439) 878 633
Voda Mobile: (0414) 878 630
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From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: outages Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:04:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com MMm, Some nice echoes around, particularly the storm currently dumping on Lismore. Wonder if MB is active.... John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 3:07 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: outages We are having busy time at this stage. the current areas with storms reported as are follows. Baldry, Cumnock, Condobolin, Tottenham, Ungarie, Tullamore, Yeoval, Tommingly, Nyngan, forbes (whole shire) feeder, Canowindra. Conductors have been reported down, transformers blown. . Warren, Orange, areas now .. power lines down in coonamble.. high winds and fierce storm now. Very black just sw west of Bathurst.. cowra also have power lines down.. many transformsers blown Dave ############################################################################ ######### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ############################################################################ ######### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:05:14 +1100 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Ashton
We are with NTT HDSL at the office and the delivery time to the aussie-wx list is highly variable but it is a problem unique to the list. We have many clients replying on email delivery from us and we experience excellent timeliness. At home I am with Telstra ADSL but my emails sent from home NEVER arrive to the list.
 
Cheers,
Mark Hardy
The Weather Company Pty. Ltd.
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Ashton H Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2002 4:17 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest

In response to Mark Hardy I too have had severe problems in getting my emails through to the list.
Most "listers" tell me it is because I'm using Ozemail. I still find this difficult to understand although Jimmy D told me just recently he has had the same problem with Ozemail.
Are you with Ozemail Mark Hardy ?  And Jimmy could you perhaps email me more detail so that I can follow up.
 
ashtonha at ozemail .com.au
 
As to which list, obviously both should co-exist happily.  For me Weatherzone suits me best. Obviously for connx reasons and for the "live" feel to discussions........but I'm a new Kid on the block and comparisons are odious as they say.
 
Ashton
Email despatched 1617hrs 26/03/02
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Hardy
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest

That one only took four hours to get through. A definite improvement on
past performance but hardly what you would call responsive. Does anybody
know why it is so slow? We do not have email problems anywhere else.

Mark Hardy
The Weather Company Pty. Ltd.
http://www.theweather.com.au


-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hardy
Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2002 10:25 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest


Phil
I don't think there is one "place to be". I've subscribed to the list
since '98 as well and find it a very interesting forum for discussion. I
suspect the major reason for drop off in activity on the list is speed.
Every post I have made in the last 6 months has taken on average 24
hours to reach the list. This is clearly next to useless if you need to
converse in a timely manner. (It will be interesting to see how long
this one takes because it appears to faster lately).  For discussions
that are not time critical though, the list is great. It's also worth
noting that the higher visibility of the Weatherzone forum also brings
many more weather newbies into the weather discussion communitity.
Several of these have 'upgraded' to the aussie-wx list and/or ASWA
membership over the past several months as well :)

The key difference between the two is that Weatherzone forum is an open
discussion and therefore attracts a more diverse range of participants.
Everybody from professional mets through to school kids wanting to learn
more and get involved. In constrast, the list as a subscription service
is a more committed group and therefore tends to be more technically
focussed.

There's definitely room for both types so you shouldn't feel as though
you are being pushed from one forum to another. Personally I tend to
stay on Weatherzone because I prefer the structured threaded design and
the speed of updates. For me it's easier to follow threads and I only
read what interests me. But I am always on a high speed connection and I
can appreciate why others on dial-up would prefer the faster download
speed of email.

I am sure both forums will survive and continue to foster.

Mark Hardy
The Weather Company Pty. Ltd.
http://www.theweather.com.au


-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Phyland
Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2002 8:56 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest


Hi every1,

Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of
choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times
I've
posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've
been
referred to the weatherzone chat site.

Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't
those
subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a
thousand
cuts effort?

I've been on this list since October 1998 and have enjoyed nearly every
minute of it but I don't appreciate the idea that "everybody knows we're

elsewhere" without being told.

This came up about 18 months ago when the yahoo.crap came up. It didn't
work
with two venues then and quite clearly it's not working now.

Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why
posts
to it are seldom responded to?

Yours in frustration,
Kevin from Wycheproof.

P.S. Yeah...it's not just because MY statements are so earth-shattering
either... I've learned more here than I've taught!

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From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: temporary webcam for Krambach (near Taree) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:11:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
sorry folks, there is one pic there but I had to pull the cam back in as rain was coming through the window and onto the monitor
____________________________________
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Phone: (02) 6559 1232
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____________________________________________
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: aus-wx: temporary webcam for Krambach (near Taree)

____________________________________
Glen O'Riley
3 Easton Road
Krambach    2429
Phone: (02) 6559 1232
Fax: (02) 6559 1347
Telstra Mobile: (0439) 878 633
Voda Mobile: (0414) 878 630
goriley at tsn.cc
www.mypage.tsn.cc/oriley
 
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-------
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Australian Citizens Radio Emergency Service Volunteer
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X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p330-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.148.76] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:21:20 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Nothing specific Ashton, just my point of view. Ozemail was the best isp a few years back - but you vcan guarantee with yahoo in it, it will and I know has gone down hill in terms of performance. Perhaps other can tell you. My account which I used to use got cancelled because I don't use it ie e-mail with the ozemail account no longer works. Quite strange when you consider it happened about the time Yahoo stuck their nose in. Cheers. Jimmy Deguara At 04:17 PM 26/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >In response to Mark Hardy I too have had severe problems in getting my >emails through to the list. >Most "listers" tell me it is because I'm using Ozemail. I still find this >difficult to understand although Jimmy D told me just recently he has had >the same problem with Ozemail. >Are you with Ozemail Mark Hardy ? And Jimmy could you perhaps email me >more detail so that I can follow up. > >ashtonha at ozemail .com.au > >As to which list, obviously both should co-exist happily. For me >Weatherzone suits me best. Obviously for connx reasons and for the "live" >feel to discussions........but I'm a new Kid on the block and comparisons >are odious as they say. > >Ashton >Email despatched 1617hrs 26/03/02 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark Hardy >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:39 PM >Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest > >That one only took four hours to get through. A definite improvement on >past performance but hardly what you would call responsive. Does anybody >know why it is so slow? We do not have email problems anywhere else. > >Mark Hardy >The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. >http://www.theweather.com.au > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: >aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hardy >Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2002 10:25 AM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest > > > >Phil >I don't think there is one "place to be". I've subscribed to the list >since '98 as well and find it a very interesting forum for discussion. I >suspect the major reason for drop off in activity on the list is speed. >Every post I have made in the last 6 months has taken on average 24 >hours to reach the list. This is clearly next to useless if you need to >converse in a timely manner. (It will be interesting to see how long >this one takes because it appears to faster lately). For discussions >that are not time critical though, the list is great. It's also worth >noting that the higher visibility of the Weatherzone forum also brings >many more weather newbies into the weather discussion communitity. >Several of these have 'upgraded' to the aussie-wx list and/or ASWA >membership over the past several months as well :) > >The key difference between the two is that Weatherzone forum is an open >discussion and therefore attracts a more diverse range of participants. >Everybody from professional mets through to school kids wanting to learn >more and get involved. In constrast, the list as a subscription service >is a more committed group and therefore tends to be more technically >focussed. > >There's definitely room for both types so you shouldn't feel as though >you are being pushed from one forum to another. Personally I tend to >stay on Weatherzone because I prefer the structured threaded design and >the speed of updates. For me it's easier to follow threads and I only >read what interests me. But I am always on a high speed connection and I >can appreciate why others on dial-up would prefer the faster download >speed of email. >I am sure both forums will survive and continue to foster. > >Mark Hardy >The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. >http://www.theweather.com.au > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: >aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Kevin >Phyland >Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2002 8:56 PM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest > > > >Hi every1, > >Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of >choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times >I've >posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've >been >referred to the weatherzone chat site. > >Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't >those >subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a >thousand >cuts effort? > >I've been on this list since October 1998 and have enjoyed nearly every >minute of it but I don't appreciate the idea that "everybody knows we're > >elsewhere" without being told. > >This came up about 18 months ago when the yahoo.crap came up. It didn't >work >with two venues then and quite clearly it's not working now. > >Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why >posts >to it are seldom responded to? > >Yours in frustration, >Kevin from Wycheproof. > >P.S. Yeah...it's not just because MY statements are so earth-shattering >either... I've learned more here than I've taught! > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather >your_email_address" in the body of your message. > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather >your_email_address" in the body of your message. > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: A wild 24 hours Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:53:14 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The last 24 hours here and know doubt in other places in Victoria has seen a real turn around. Up until 24 hours ago I had point 4 of a mm for this month I now have 58mm and have passed the March average in one day. Lots of electrical stuff last night which had the local CFA on edge and a few call outs were received. All calmed down a bit until 4.30 this morning when the heavens opened with 53.4 falling between then and approx 4pm this arvo with a fair bit of lightning and thunder thrown in. Never got much work done today while watching mother nature at work.
After many months of trying (and waiting for a storm) I finally captured a ground strike on my Digital camera. Nothing impressive but hard to do with a digi with the slight time delay between the button press and the actual photo being taken. Finally got it after about 63 shots I think :-)
Clouds disappearing now to the SE and bathed in sunshine here at present. Not much can be seen to the NW at present other than a few isolated clouds. Over and out....
 
Bussy (Rutherglen, NE Victoria)
From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: Bathurst To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:21:46 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 26/03/2002 06:21:51 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Absolute fantastic storm hitting Bathurst now.. huge rainfalls.. lightning you name it .. Major outage in orange.. Small tornado reported in Coonamble.. shed ripped apart and strewn all over property. we would now have about 30 areas with faults. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. 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Got home from school just around 4pm, with an awesome huge cell to the SW of here, which was heading SE. I was planning to head out to Tregeagle (5km SE of Lismore?) and meet up with MB when he could come. Just before I left I noticed this cell had began to vear left and was heading NE towards Lismore. My dad and I raced out there and met up with MB. WHAT A SIGHT!!!! The best guster I've seen in ages (photos will be up later tonight). After waiting a while for it to hit (it was very slow moving) we got some strong gusts, very heavy rain, and hail up to 2-3cm (mainly 1-2cm). After a while we headed down the road to the E and copped the best hail shaft!!! As said earlier photos will be up later of this. Alstonville also copped some heavy rain, but that's where we ended our chase. More stuff developing to the W of here. Hope this is only the begining!! More details later (hopefully by MB!) Dave Ellem ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:04 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: outages > MMm, > > Some nice echoes around, particularly the storm currently dumping on > Lismore. Wonder if MB is active.... > > John. > >snip > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of > David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 3:07 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: outages > > > We are having busy time at this stage. the current areas with storms > reported as are follows. > > Baldry, Cumnock, Condobolin, Tottenham, Ungarie, Tullamore, Yeoval, > Tommingly, Nyngan, forbes (whole shire) feeder, Canowindra. > > Conductors have been reported down, transformers blown. . > > Warren, Orange, areas now .. power lines down in coonamble.. high winds > and fierce storm now. > > Very black just sw west of Bathurst.. cowra also have power lines down.. > many transformsers blown > > Dave > > > > > ############################################################################ > ######### > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > confidential > information. 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Hi Ashton
 
I am with Ozemail and have had several problems over the years. I moved the list subscription to my domain E Mail ( on a US server ) and surprise surprise the posting lag has improved and I get all posts.
 
I am going to dump Ozemail in the next week and move to I Primus. Ozemail has been going downhill since its  relationship with Yahoo.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest

In response to Mark Hardy I too have had severe problems in getting my emails through to the list.
Most "listers" tell me it is because I'm using Ozemail. I still find this difficult to understand although Jimmy D told me just recently he has had the same problem with Ozemail.
Are you with Ozemail Mark Hardy ?  And Jimmy could you perhaps email me more detail so that I can follow up.
 
ashtonha at ozemail com.au
 
As to which list, obviously both should co-exist happily.  For me Weatherzone suits me best. Obviously for connx reasons and for the "live" feel to discussions........but I'm a new Kid on the block and comparisons are odious as they say.
 
Ashton
Email despatched 1617hrs 26/03/02
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Hardy
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest

That one only took four hours to get through. A definite improvement on
past performance but hardly what you would call responsive. Does anybody
know why it is so slow? We do not have email problems anywhere else.

Mark Hardy
The Weather Company Pty. Ltd.
http://www.theweather.com.au


-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hardy
Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2002 10:25 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest


Phil
I don't think there is one "place to be". I've subscribed to the list
since '98 as well and find it a very interesting forum for discussion. I
suspect the major reason for drop off in activity on the list is speed.
Every post I have made in the last 6 months has taken on average 24
hours to reach the list. This is clearly next to useless if you need to
converse in a timely manner. (It will be interesting to see how long
this one takes because it appears to faster lately).  For discussions
that are not time critical though, the list is great. It's also worth
noting that the higher visibility of the Weatherzone forum also brings
many more weather newbies into the weather discussion communitity.
Several of these have 'upgraded' to the aussie-wx list and/or ASWA
membership over the past several months as well :)

The key difference between the two is that Weatherzone forum is an open
discussion and therefore attracts a more diverse range of participants.
Everybody from professional mets through to school kids wanting to learn
more and get involved. In constrast, the list as a subscription service
is a more committed group and therefore tends to be more technically
focussed.

There's definitely room for both types so you shouldn't feel as though
you are being pushed from one forum to another. Personally I tend to
stay on Weatherzone because I prefer the structured threaded design and
the speed of updates. For me it's easier to follow threads and I only
read what interests me. But I am always on a high speed connection and I
can appreciate why others on dial-up would prefer the faster download
speed of email.

I am sure both forums will survive and continue to foster.

Mark Hardy
The Weather Company Pty. Ltd.
http://www.theweather.com.au


-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Phyland
Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2002 8:56 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest


Hi every1,

Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of
choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times
I've
posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've
been
referred to the weatherzone chat site.

Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't
those
subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a
thousand
cuts effort?

I've been on this list since October 1998 and have enjoyed nearly every
minute of it but I don't appreciate the idea that "everybody knows we're

elsewhere" without being told.

This came up about 18 months ago when the yahoo.crap came up. It didn't
work
with two venues then and quite clearly it's not working now.

Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why
posts
to it are seldom responded to?

Yours in frustration,
Kevin from Wycheproof.

P.S. Yeah...it's not just because MY statements are so earth-shattering
either... I've learned more here than I've taught!

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From: "Greg Curtis" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lismore Cell Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:44:38 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dave, Watched your storm from Mt Cootha in Brisbane. Was wondering exactly where it was and guessed Casino so not that far out. No detail seen from that distance through a little haze as well. Of course didn't have the camera, but watched from about 3:15 - 4:00 pm Qld time. As you indicated very slowing moving. Some nice updrafts at times. Looking forward to your photos. Greg Curtis -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Dave Ellem Sent: 26 March, 2002 5:21 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Lismore Cell Goodevening!!! Just been out on a chase with MB. Power is finally back on here at home so here's the deal! Got home from school just around 4pm, with an awesome huge cell to the SW of here, which was heading SE. I was planning to head out to Tregeagle (5km SE of Lismore?) and meet up with MB when he could come. Just before I left I noticed this cell had began to vear left and was heading NE towards Lismore. My dad and I raced out there and met up with MB. WHAT A SIGHT!!!! The best guster I've seen in ages (photos will be up later tonight). After waiting a while for it to hit (it was very slow moving) we got some strong gusts, very heavy rain, and hail up to 2-3cm (mainly 1-2cm). After a while we headed down the road to the E and copped the best hail shaft!!! As said earlier photos will be up later of this. Alstonville also copped some heavy rain, but that's where we ended our chase. More stuff developing to the W of here. Hope this is only the begining!! More details later (hopefully by MB!) Dave Ellem ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:04 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: outages > MMm, > > Some nice echoes around, particularly the storm currently dumping on > Lismore. Wonder if MB is active.... > > John. > >snip > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of > David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 3:07 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: outages > > > We are having busy time at this stage. the current areas with storms > reported as are follows. > > Baldry, Cumnock, Condobolin, Tottenham, Ungarie, Tullamore, Yeoval, > Tommingly, Nyngan, forbes (whole shire) feeder, Canowindra. > > Conductors have been reported down, transformers blown. . > > Warren, Orange, areas now .. power lines down in coonamble.. high winds > and fierce storm now. > > Very black just sw west of Bathurst.. cowra also have power lines down.. > many transformsers blown > > Dave > > > > > ############################################################################ > ######### > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and > notify the > sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, > and are > not necessarily the views of Country Energy. > ############################################################################ > ######### > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Lows & rain events (maybe) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:48:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, the MSL at 4pm has the surface low NW of Sydney, but the upper low is planted firmly and very impressively over the Hay area in southern NSW after moving north from SW of Mt Gambier this morning. What an impressive little system this has turned out to be!! Guess where the returning cloudband is atm.....moving into position over the Bellarine Peninsula & Cape Otway - maybe some heavy showers west & southwest of Melbourne to come? Upper low is moving slowly northeast - hope you guys in NSW don't have to go to work or anything for the next day or so Very interesting....... -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:00:57 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bathurst Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Where did you get that report from Dave !? Is it reliable source? funnel seen? or could it have been strong outflow winds/microburst etc? Matt Smith David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au wrote: > Absolute fantastic storm hitting Bathurst now.. huge rainfalls.. > lightning you name it .. > > Major outage in orange.. > > Small tornado reported in Coonamble.. shed ripped apart and strewn all > over property. > > we would now have about 30 areas with faults. > > Dave > > ##################################################################################### > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the > sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are > not necessarily the views of Country Energy. > ##################################################################################### > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:15:17 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lows & rain events (maybe) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:48 PM 26/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Evening all, > >the MSL at 4pm has the surface low NW of Sydney, but the upper low is >planted firmly and very impressively over the Hay area in southern NSW >after moving north from SW of Mt Gambier this morning. What an >impressive little system this has turned out to be!! Guess where the >returning cloudband is atm.....moving into position over the Bellarine >Peninsula & Cape Otway - maybe some heavy showers west & southwest of >Melbourne to come? Upper low is moving slowly northeast - hope you guys >in NSW don't have to go to work or anything for the next day or so Hmm, I'm flying to Sydney tomorrow for the day... Yes, I have to work, but at least the Sydney office has decent windows! :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lows & rain events (maybe) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:23:00 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Just have a quick check of some sat and radar pics.. they seems to be a week Low located of cooktown at the moment... Its still a very week system at this stage but has got some definition on the Radar. Jason º¿º +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: Vic Storms - 03/25/02 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:25:30 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey All, Just a quick email about my other images that I have put online from yesterday's storms. Thanks to Tony Middleton for reminding me to put them out: http://www.lexicon.net/yolestorm/032502storms/ PaulY Paul Yole Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA Cell Phone#: (040) 081-9519 http://www.lexicon.net/yolestorm/ "I never knew what life meant, until I found that special person I had been looking for. Now she is blessing us with our little angel, all those nightmare memories from the past all seem to be a forgotten dream...I love you Kelley" - PaulY (2002) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie wx" Subject: aus-wx: Canberra 26th Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:42:05 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2002 09:38:55.0280 (UTC) FILETIME=[0BEE9B00:01C1D4AA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all, im currently Scanning/adjusting uploading a set of pics from 2day, some already up here
i will update later tonight when i get them all up :)
Cheers
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P.s I know it is the 26th, just an error on my behalf :)
X-Originating-IP: [203.29.156.6] From: "T Middleton" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: SDS in SEQ? - possible supercell photos/report Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:57:45 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2002 09:57:45.0469 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD93C2D0:01C1D4AC] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hi all, I get the feeling that there is a touch of SDS creeping into a few of our SEQ residents of late. :P anyway....this may help relieve this ghastly disease momentarily - some photos and brief descriptions of a possible supercell I encountered in SEQ on the 30-12-2001 http://bigmax.yi.org:6969/users/anvils/Boonah_BeaudesertSC.htm anyway - as always it was more fun/impressive than it looks but enjoy all the same. kind regards Tony M http://bigmax.yi.org:6969/users/anvils _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Tichborne" To: Subject: aus-wx: Big changes on the way Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:14:12 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It's been pretty quiet over here lately - boring for storm enthusiasts, but great for everyone else (enjoying the March indian summer after months of no summer). But an active trough and cold southerly outbreak looks likely for the latter part of Easter weekend. The MRF model makes it look like quite a wintry one at that. And Tasmania looks like it'll be getting the wintry outbreak earlier in the Easter period. (according to the ECMWF models at least) Ben Christchurch NZ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [198.142.18.234] From: "Dave Ellem" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lismore Cell Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:33:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2002 10:35:35.0710 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6BF0BE0:01C1D4B1] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Goodevening!! All my photos are up at this page here about half way down: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/dave08.htm and continue on this page: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/dave09.htm Thiseveing we had more storms come through and some cells to the north of here were very ligthning active. Being busy tonight uploading photos and such I set dad up out the front with the digital camera and told him to keep pressing the button!! About 30mins later I came back out and he casually mentioned he might have got one or two that were good. Check this one out!!!! http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~stormboy2002/lightning%202.jpg Needless to say, I think I might leave him out in storms more often!!! Dave Ellem, Wollongbar, Northern Rivers, NE NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Curtis" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 6:44 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lismore Cell > Hi Dave, > > Watched your storm from Mt Cootha in Brisbane. Was wondering exactly where > it was and guessed Casino so not that far out. No detail seen from that > distance through a little haze as well. Of course didn't have the camera, > but watched from about 3:15 - 4:00 pm Qld time. As you indicated very > slowing moving. Some nice updrafts at times. > > Looking forward to your photos. > > Greg Curtis > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Dave Ellem > Sent: 26 March, 2002 5:21 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: Lismore Cell > > > Goodevening!!! > Just been out on a chase with MB. Power is finally back on here at home so > here's the deal! Got home from school just around 4pm, with an awesome huge > cell to the SW of here, which was heading SE. I was planning to head out to > Tregeagle (5km SE of Lismore?) and meet up with MB when he could come. Just > before I left I noticed this cell had began to vear left and was heading NE > towards Lismore. My dad and I raced out there and met up with MB. WHAT A > SIGHT!!!! The best guster I've seen in ages (photos will be up later > tonight). After waiting a while for it to hit (it was very slow moving) we > got some strong gusts, very heavy rain, and hail up to 2-3cm (mainly 1-2cm). > After a while we headed down the road to the E and copped the best hail > shaft!!! As said earlier photos will be up later of this. Alstonville also > copped some heavy rain, but that's where we ended our chase. More stuff > developing to the W of here. Hope this is only the begining!! More details > later (hopefully by MB!) > > Dave Ellem > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Woodbridge" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:04 PM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: outages > > > > MMm, > > > > Some nice echoes around, particularly the storm currently dumping on > > Lismore. Wonder if MB is active.... > > > > John. > > >snip > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of > > David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au > > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 3:07 PM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: aus-wx: outages > > > > > > We are having busy time at this stage. the current areas with storms > > reported as are follows. > > > > Baldry, Cumnock, Condobolin, Tottenham, Ungarie, Tullamore, Yeoval, > > Tommingly, Nyngan, forbes (whole shire) feeder, Canowindra. > > > > Conductors have been reported down, transformers blown. . > > > > Warren, Orange, areas now .. power lines down in coonamble.. high winds > > and fierce storm now. > > > > Very black just sw west of Bathurst.. cowra also have power lines down.. > > many transformsers blown > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > ############################################################################ > > ######### > > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > > confidential > > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and > > notify the > > sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender, > > and are > > not necessarily the views of Country Energy. > > > ############################################################################ > > ######### > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 202.12.87.169 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:02:30 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lismore Cell Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:33 PM 26/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: >http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~stormboy2002/lightning%202.jpg >Needless to say, I think I might leave him out in storms more often!!! Woah!!!!!! :) Fantastic pic!!! 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: JCU globe Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:57:56 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If anyone's having trouble loading teh current JCU global image (which seems to have stalled on one of their servers), thry this one - it's current! http://www.eng.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/globeflast.gif Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lismore Cell Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:08:08 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2002 11:07:38.0268 (UTC) FILETIME=[70AE1DC0:01C1D4B6] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all in the NE NSW. Interesting to see the remains of the Lismore cell now offshore, careful analysis of the cloud band appears to show a pre frontal trough may have been associated with its development, with the main surface trough still to come through, its interesting as storms were kicked off over western Vic on Sunday by a similar pre trough, trough, regards Clyve H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Ellem To: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: aus-wx: Lismore Cell > Goodevening!!! > Just been out on a chase with MB. Power is finally back on here at home so > here's the deal! Got home from school just around 4pm, with an awesome huge > cell to the SW of here, which was heading SE. I was planning to head out to > Tregeagle (5km SE of Lismore?) and meet up with MB when he could come. Just > before I left I noticed this cell had began to vear left and was heading NE > towards Lismore. My dad and I raced out there and met up with MB. WHAT A > SIGHT!!!! The best guster I've seen in ages (photos will be up later > tonight). After waiting a while for it to hit (it was very slow moving) we > got some strong gusts, very heavy rain, and hail up to 2-3cm (mainly 1-2cm). > After a while we headed down the road to the E and copped the best hail > shaft!!! As said earlier photos will be up later of this. Alstonville also > copped some heavy rain, but that's where we ended our chase. More stuff > developing to the W of here. Hope this is only the begining!! More details > later (hopefully by MB!) > > Dave Ellem > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Woodbridge" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:04 PM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: outages > > > > MMm, > > > > Some nice echoes around, particularly the storm currently dumping on > > Lismore. Wonder if MB is active.... > > > > John. > > >snip > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of > > David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au > > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 3:07 PM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: aus-wx: outages > > > > > > We are having busy time at this stage. the current areas with storms > > reported as are follows. > > > > Baldry, Cumnock, Condobolin, Tottenham, Ungarie, Tullamore, Yeoval, > > Tommingly, Nyngan, forbes (whole shire) feeder, Canowindra. > > > > Conductors have been reported down, transformers blown. . > > > > Warren, Orange, areas now .. power lines down in coonamble.. high winds > > and fierce storm now. > > > > Very black just sw west of Bathurst.. cowra also have power lines down.. > > many transformsers blown > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > ############################################################################ > > ######### > > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > > confidential > > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and > > notify the > > sender. 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Great light show - wished I would have put the webcam back on the tower! Well done Dave Carroll again with the storm advice - Brian Wilson Leonay NSW +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "Aussie-Weather (E-mail)" Subject: aus-wx: Action Aplenty Already Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:43:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Action Aplenty Already

Wollongong 9:40pm,

It finally rolled across from the ranges around 30 minutes ago, with numerous lightning active cells. A good gust front associated with the storms, which was backlit brilliantly by the constant CG and CC lightning. Had a fairly close call though only a few minutes ago, as I was trying to make a mpeg movie with the still digi camera, a CG landed less than 150m away behind me, with a blast which shook me very solidly. It landed in our research facility or struck the stack just down the road from that. Very close, as I was walking between buildings at the time and in the open.

Some incredible CG action tough. There was a few strikes which I didn't manage to capture that seemed to travel from a long way across the sky to strike within the steelworks, sometimes about 30 degrees angle from the horizontal plain. Pretty strange given there is plenty of tall targets and hills around the place. But it looks like it will be a great night to be on a 12 hr night shift, the digi camera won't be far away at any stage.

Cheers
Andrew Godsman

EOM

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X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:24:51 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Mark, that post you sent took about 4 hours to get through because that one had to be added manually by Dave and he can only do that when he is online. The reason was because you said "subscribe" in your 1st line. "Phil I don't think there is one "place to be". I've subscribed to the list since '98 as well and find it a very interesting forum for discussion." If the list sees that word (and a few others) in the 1st line, it automatically bounces, because sometimes we get people emailing the main list address (instead of majordomo at world.std.com) to subscribe or unsubscribe, which just clutters the list if we let them get through automatically Jacob At 02:39 PM 26/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: >That one only took four hours to get through. A definite improvement on >past performance but hardly what you would call responsive. Does anybody >know why it is so slow? We do not have email problems anywhere else. > >Mark Hardy >The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. >http://www.theweather.com.au > > >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hardy >Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2002 10:25 AM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest > > >Phil >I don't think there is one "place to be". I've subscribed to the list >since '98 as well and find it a very interesting forum for discussion. I >suspect the major reason for drop off in activity on the list is speed. >Every post I have made in the last 6 months has taken on average 24 >hours to reach the list. This is clearly next to useless if you need to >converse in a timely manner. (It will be interesting to see how long >this one takes because it appears to faster lately). For discussions >that are not time critical though, the list is great. It's also worth >noting that the higher visibility of the Weatherzone forum also brings >many more weather newbies into the weather discussion communitity. >Several of these have 'upgraded' to the aussie-wx list and/or ASWA >membership over the past several months as well :) > >The key difference between the two is that Weatherzone forum is an open >discussion and therefore attracts a more diverse range of participants. >Everybody from professional mets through to school kids wanting to learn >more and get involved. In constrast, the list as a subscription service >is a more committed group and therefore tends to be more technically >focussed. > >There's definitely room for both types so you shouldn't feel as though >you are being pushed from one forum to another. Personally I tend to >stay on Weatherzone because I prefer the structured threaded design and >the speed of updates. For me it's easier to follow threads and I only >read what interests me. But I am always on a high speed connection and I >can appreciate why others on dial-up would prefer the faster download >speed of email. > >I am sure both forums will survive and continue to foster. > >Mark Hardy >The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. >http://www.theweather.com.au > > >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Kevin >Phyland >Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2002 8:56 PM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest > > >Hi every1, > >Unfortunately it's become evident that this is no longer the "forum of >choice" of the people in the Aussie Wx Community. The last two times >I've >posted (admittedly it's a lot less frequent than in days of yore) I've >been >referred to the weatherzone chat site. > >Is the weatherzone chat site now the "place to be"? If so, why haven't >those >subscribed to aussie-weather been told instead of this death by a >thousand >cuts effort? > >I've been on this list since October 1998 and have enjoyed nearly every >minute of it but I don't appreciate the idea that "everybody knows we're > >elsewhere" without being told. > >This came up about 18 months ago when the yahoo.crap came up. It didn't >work >with two venues then and quite clearly it's not working now. > >Can somebody explain either why the aussie-wx list still exists or why >posts >to it are seldom responded to? > >Yours in frustration, >Kevin from Wycheproof. > >P.S. Yeah...it's not just because MY statements are so earth-shattering >either... I've learned more here than I've taught! > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather >your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather >your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra 26th Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 01:37:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2002 14:34:15.0392 (UTC) FILETIME=[4DF11E00:01C1D4D3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
www.canberra-wx.com/pics/26mar02/index.html <--Full set of pics from the action. all enhanced to get rid of the purpleness......took me like 3 hours to do :(
 
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Hi all, im currently Scanning/adjusting uploading a set of pics from 2day, some already up here
i will update later tonight when i get them all up :)
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P.s I know it is the 26th, just an error on my behalf :)
X-Originating-IP: [203.29.156.6] From: "T Middleton" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Benalla stormss/rainfall Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:19:20 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2002 20:19:20.0888 (UTC) FILETIME=[83611380:01C1D503] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I saw that Benalla recieved 96mm for 26-3-02 and 17mm yesterday, i assume most of the 96mm came from storms overnight. By the time i got home from work etc the hourly rainfall breakdown of the previous nights rain was no longer logged on the BoM vic.floods/catchment page. So i was wondering if Blair or someone else may have access or seen the hourly breakdown of this rainfall/storms? thanks. kind regards Tony M _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Mixed stuff. Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:59:09 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2002 02:58:32.0497 (UTC) FILETIME=[47A69210:01C1D53B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
An interesting convective area at 155 east and about 14 south (north Coral Sea.) with some upper divergence and reasonable surface convergence not moving much but is approaching upper northwesterlie flow ahead of the long wave trough extending through eastern Australia...... We have another Gypsy (upper ) low over northern NSW, this cold pool has kept an interesting northeast to northward drift over the past several days, seems to be pressure forcing from the substantial high in the western Bight....all worth keeping a close look at. What about that feeble wrap around band coming onto the NSW central coast hardly 60 kilometres wide in places!. regards Clyve Herbert.
From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Benalla stormss/rainfall Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:16:16 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Reported in the Border Morning Mail (Albury paper). I think the address is http://www.bordermail.com.au/newsflow/pageitem?page_id=355365 There was three pages in the paper. Front 2 and 3 ----- Original Message ----- From: "T Middleton" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: aus-wx: Benalla stormss/rainfall > Hi all, > I saw that Benalla recieved 96mm for 26-3-02 and 17mm yesterday, i assume > most of the 96mm came from storms overnight. By the time i got home from > work etc the hourly rainfall breakdown of the previous nights rain was no > longer logged on the BoM vic.floods/catchment page. > So i was wondering if Blair or someone else may have access or seen the > hourly breakdown of this rainfall/storms? > thanks. > > kind regards Tony M > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra 26th Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:33:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2002 07:29:58.0898 (UTC) FILETIME=[331A2520:01C1D561] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
For those who are interested i have uploaded a pic from yesterday UN-EDITED (Colour wise anyway)
Look at the difference....
 
i got them developed, only to have MAJOR purple colouring... Going to complain to the developer
www.canberra-wx.com/pics/26mar02/4p.jpg <---see
And the adjusted product
www.canberra-wx.com/pics/26mar02/4.jpg
 
 
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www.canberra-wx.com/pics/26mar02/index.html <--Full set of pics from the action. all enhanced to get rid of the purpleness......took me like 3 hours to do :(
 
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Hi all, im currently Scanning/adjusting uploading a set of pics from 2day, some already up here
i will update later tonight when i get them all up :)
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P.s I know it is the 26th, just an error on my behalf :)
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Action Aplenty Already Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:29:26 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Action Aplenty Already
The gust front was a feature as Andrew mentioned, brilliantly backlit, but at the same time jet black on the front edge.
 
The main lightning actually came after most of the rain and guster had passed.
 
Michael
 
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Wollongong 9:40pm,

It finally rolled across from the ranges around 30 minutes ago, with numerous lightning active cells. A good gust front associated with the storms, which was backlit brilliantly by the constant CG and CC lightning. Had a fairly close call though only a few minutes ago, as I was trying to make a mpeg movie with the still digi camera, a CG landed less than 150m away behind me, with a blast which shook me very solidly. It landed in our research facility or struck the stack just down the road from that. Very close, as I was walking between buildings at the time and in the open.

Some incredible CG action tough. There was a few strikes which I didn't manage to capture that seemed to travel from a long way across the sky to strike within the steelworks, sometimes about 30 degrees angle from the horizontal plain. Pretty strange given there is plenty of tall targets and hills around the place. But it looks like it will be a great night to be on a 12 hr night shift, the digi camera won't be far away at any stage.

Cheers
Andrew Godsman

EOM

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From: "Adam Mayo" To: "Australian Severe Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Thursday Storm in Sydney Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:42:47 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Everyone,
 
We are having continual lightning and thunder here at Mona Vale,    8.41am 28.03.02,  rain only light so far.
 
Judy Mayo
From: "Paul Yole" To: "Wizz Ah All" , "Tony Middleton" , "Tara" , "Rita & Frank Veroude" , "Renae Bardell" , "Paul & Jasmine Brown" , "Nick Sykes" , "Neville Hiatt" , "Max King" , "Matt Smith" , "Marshall Jenny" , "Mark Dwyer" , "Kristen" , "Kim Nett" , "Kelley Mantia-Yole" , "Kathryn Wall" , "Jason" , "Jane ONeill" , "Jacinta Ferguson" , "J Marshall" , "Greg Spencer" , "Fife Amanda" , "Emma Doherty" , "Clyve Herbert" , "Ben Quinn" , "Belinda Palmer" , "Australian Weather Mailing List" , "Anthony Cornelius" , "Andrew Mcdonald" , "Adam and Erika Greenfield" Subject: aus-wx: New email address Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:33:35 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey All, Just a quick email to let you all know of my new primary email address. Australia.edu have denied access to their email account using an email program, which means having to log onto their website numerous times of the day, which is just annoying, so I am changing to my Lexicon.net address. If you could all update your email address books, my email is as follows: pyole at lexicon.net Thanks, PaulY Paul Yole Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA Cell Phone#: (040) 081-9519 http://www.lexicon.net/yolestorm/ "I never knew what life meant, until I found that special person I had been looking for. Now she is blessing us with our little angel, all those nightmare memories from the past all seem to be a forgotten dream...I love you Kelley" - PaulY (2002) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "nandina morris" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:40:24 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Kevin from Wycheproof - I'm still reading aus-wx, but don't usually reply, as I take more than I can give to you informed people:-) I will tell you that the storms on Monday knocked out my phone lines - I have an A.NT line attached to my main line, and both were gone, as the A.NT nerve centre is a bit susceptible to lightening. Just now fixed after 65 hrs of no telephone service. Also - I have photos of the storm clouds that gathered on Feb 25 - however they are prints from a regular (old fashioned) camera, and I don't have a scanner. By the time I get them processed, post them to Jane, etc they would be old news. Sorry, just letting you know I saw your mail. And I cannot remember - you did tell me once - if it is the biggest hill or the littlest mountain - Wycheproof, I mean. Cheers, Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Phyland --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Always billed as the smallest mountain on the local milk cartons. :-) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: NSW STA To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:45:32 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 28/03/2002 01:45:37 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com IDN28300 TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST NSW Severe Thunderstorm Advice BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 1309 on Thursday the 28th of March 2002 The Bureau of Meteorology in Sydney has issued a Severe Thunderstorm Advice for people in the following weather forecast districts: Northern Tablelands, Northern Rivers, Mid-North Coast, North West Slopes and Plains, Central West Slopes and Plains east of a line Nyngan to Condobolin, Central Tablelands, Hunter, Upper Western east of Brewarrina. 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Cheers, Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Langdon (VK3JED) To: Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:44 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: The Importance Of Being Earnest > At 01:40 PM 28/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: > > >cannot remember - you did tell me once - if it is the biggest hill or the > >littlest mountain - Wycheproof, I mean. > > Always billed as the smallest mountain on the local milk cartons. :-) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Regards Steve Markham -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2002 1:46 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: NSW STA IDN28300 TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST NSW Severe Thunderstorm Advice BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 1309 on Thursday the 28th of March 2002 The Bureau of Meteorology in Sydney has issued a Severe Thunderstorm Advice for people in the following weather forecast districts: Northern Tablelands, Northern Rivers, Mid-North Coast, North West Slopes and Plains, Central West Slopes and Plains east of a line Nyngan to Condobolin, Central Tablelands, Hunter, Upper Western east of Brewarrina. This advice is valid until 7pm and it should not be used after this time. Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area this afternoon and evening. 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I ignored him from over here too, but there's not all that much else to write about. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:41:22 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Test > At 04:21 PM 28/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: > > >Please Disregard > > OK, you have been duly ignored ;) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vk3jed.vk.irlp.net > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW STA Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:56:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI Steve, If we were i didnt hear about it.. I wasnt at work, only some areas of Bx actually had rain..which was real heavy.. Many people called in around 9pm and stayed until early this morning.. It has been busy all day, without letting up. Coonamble was hit again and again today, along with Gulargumbone, Piliga, Nyngan, Forbes, Warren, Trangie.. Seems like storms in lower west have peeted out now.. Ive actually made it home for the time being. Im back at work tomorrow from 2pm to 10pm.. Wonder what Fri has in store for us. !!!! Dave Bathurst ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Markham" To: Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 3:54 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: NSW STA > Dear Dave, > I heard reports that Bathurst was hit with hail yesterday. Is this true? > Regards > Steve Markham > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of > David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au > Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2002 1:46 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: NSW STA > > > IDN28300 > > TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST > > NSW Severe Thunderstorm Advice > BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY > NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE > Issued at 1309 on Thursday the 28th of March 2002 > > The Bureau of Meteorology in Sydney has issued a Severe Thunderstorm Advice > for people in the following weather forecast districts: > > Northern Tablelands, Northern Rivers, Mid-North Coast, > North West Slopes and Plains, > Central West Slopes and Plains east of a line Nyngan to Condobolin, > Central Tablelands, Hunter, > Upper Western east of Brewarrina. > > > This advice is valid until 7pm and it should not be used after this time. > > Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area this afternoon and > evening. Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing very heavy > rainfall, large hailstones, and damaging winds. > > > > > ############################################################################ > ######### > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and > notify the > sender. 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Oh well. There were some severe bolts around 4:30 - 5pm this arvo around these areas in NW Sydney. There was also a spectacular lowering - no camera nor video sorry guys. I was picking up the car today and they took longer than expected and I didn't want to have equipment with me - oh well. Good dump of rain too. Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Aus. Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 01:25:30 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2002 14:24:48.0497 (UTC) FILETIME=[50DF4E10:01C1D664] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Good early morning night owls.
Some interesting stuff over the Australian region tonight, The Gypsy upper low still active over NSW and appears to be edging southward!, some interesting soundings with this cold pool i.e. Moree -2c at 700hpa and below -40c over a large area of NSW above 300hpa, at these altitudes northern NSW is significantly colder than Tasmania! not bad for March. Meanwhile a tropical moisture plume extends into the Pilburra region of WA from large storm activity over the Indian Ocean to the north, this area seems to be responding to 'barroclinic' tendencies ahead of the deep long wave trough west of WA which seems to be peaking at the moment. regards Clyve H.yawn.
From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie wx" Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC HUMOR Why did the Chicken? Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 01:50:00 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2002 14:46:43.0337 (UTC) FILETIME=[6093F790:01C1D667] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Why did the Chicken?
 
 
PHILLIP RUDDOCK: I don't care why the chicken crossed the road it should
be sent back to where it came from. Who knows what might happen if we
keep letting any old chicken cross the road. We could be inundated with
them. Send them to the farmer up the road a bit and we can pay him to
deal with the problem.
JEFF KENNETT: If the chicken did cross the road it should have been
fitted with an etag and should pay the same toll as all other road
users.
STEVE BRACKS: Regional chickens should have the same opportunities to
cross roads as chickens living in Melbourne.
JOHN HOWARD: The chick never crossed the road. And it was not forcibly
removed from its mother! Anyway, that's a matter for the states and is
of no interest to us. The united nations should butt out.
KIM BEASLEY: There WAS a chicken and it DID cross the road. This is a
deliberate act by the government to hide the fact that chickens continue
to cross Australian roads.
NATASHA STOTT-DESPOJA: What if it was not a chicken but a bantam?
Minority sectors of our community shouldn't be discriminated against
based purely on the size of their legs.
EVELYN SCOTT:To demonstrate a commitment to reconciliation with
Indigenous chickens.
PETER COSTELLO: Accordingly to documentation submitted to the Live Foods
Processing Authority, the chicken in question was uncooked at the Time
of its journey and therefore will not incur a GST charge. However, if
that chicken actually crossed the road for profit, regardless of its
raw/cooked status, the road crossing would be considered by the ATO to
be a service for which GST will be imposed.
PAULINE HANSON: Please explain.
ROBERT DE NIRO: Are you telling me the chicken crossed that road? Is
that what you're telling me?
MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR: I envision a world where all chickens, be they
black or white or brown or red or speckled, will be free to cross roads
without having their motives called into question.
GRANDPA: In my day, we didn't ask why the chicken crossed the road.
Someone told us that the chicken crossed and that was good enough for
us.
REV FRED NILE: Because the chicken is gay! Isn't it obvious? Can't you
people see the plain truth in front of your face? The chicken was going
to the 'other side'. That's what 'they call it: the 'other side' Yes,
my friends.
CAPTAIN JAMES T KIRK: To boldly go where no chicken has gone before.
FOX MULDER: You saw it cross the road with your own eyes. How many more
chickens have to cross before you believe it's true?
HANSIE CRONJE: What if I could guarantee that it won't get to the other
side?
FREUD: the fact that you are at all concerned that the chicken crossed
the road reveals your underlying sexual insecurity. How do you feel
about your mother?
THE C.I.A: Who told you about the chicken? Did you see the chicken?
There was no chicken. Please step into the car.
EINSTEIN: Did the chicken really cross the road or did the road move
beneath the chicken?
BILL CLINTON: I did not cross the road with THAT chicken. What do you
mean by chicken? Could you define the word 'chicken'.
HOMER SIMPSON: mmmm Chicken.


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From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Severe storms Sydney Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:28:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Which one did you get Jimmy? The Swann Smart USB? From O/W in Blacktown? -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2002 9:38 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Severe storms Sydney G'day all, For the first time since owning a computer (14 years), I have had a modem possibly fried - already went out to buy another one. Oh well. There were some severe bolts around 4:30 - 5pm this arvo around these areas in NW Sydney. There was also a spectacular lowering - no camera nor video sorry guys. I was picking up the car today and they took longer than expected and I didn't want to have equipment with me - oh well. Good dump of rain too. Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p247-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.247] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:52:48 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: RE: aus-wx: Severe storms Sydney Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, but they did not offer the match because they could not contact them. They would not contact you because you are obviously someone in the back yard.... What I will try and do is take it back once I know I can get it from the other place. They have a 30day money back guarantee. I have set it up fine but is there anything I should do to make it stay stable? It does not like a lot of activity or a lack of ram.... Jimmy Deguara At 08:28 AM 29/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Which one did you get Jimmy? The Swann Smart USB? From O/W in Blacktown? > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara >Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2002 9:38 PM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: Severe storms Sydney > > >G'day all, > >For the first time since owning a computer (14 years), I have had a modem >possibly fried - already went out to buy another one. Oh well. > >There were some severe bolts around 4:30 - 5pm this arvo around these areas >in NW Sydney. There was also a spectacular lowering - no camera nor video >sorry guys. I was picking up the car today and they took longer than >expected and I didn't want to have equipment with me - oh well. > >Good dump of rain too. > >Jimmy Deguara > >----------------------------------------- >Jimmy Deguara >Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > >from >Schofields, Sydney >NSW Australia > >e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > >Web Page with Michael Bath > >Australian Severe Weather Home Page >http://www.australiasevereweather.com > >President of the Australian Severe Weather Association >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Severe storms Sydney Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:25:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com As I said last night, USB and internals are not stable. We cannot use either up here. If you can afford it, get that serial one I mentioned, they have proven themself to me to be extremely stable. Other than that, try rining Swann themselves on (1300) 138 324 and ask them if they have any hints but I doubt they will be open this weekend. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara Sent: Friday, 29 March 2002 8:53 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Severe storms Sydney Yes, but they did not offer the match because they could not contact them. They would not contact you because you are obviously someone in the back yard.... What I will try and do is take it back once I know I can get it from the other place. They have a 30day money back guarantee. I have set it up fine but is there anything I should do to make it stay stable? It does not like a lot of activity or a lack of ram.... Jimmy Deguara At 08:28 AM 29/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Which one did you get Jimmy? The Swann Smart USB? From O/W in Blacktown? > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara >Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2002 9:38 PM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: Severe storms Sydney > > >G'day all, > >For the first time since owning a computer (14 years), I have had a modem >possibly fried - already went out to buy another one. Oh well. > >There were some severe bolts around 4:30 - 5pm this arvo around these areas >in NW Sydney. There was also a spectacular lowering - no camera nor video >sorry guys. I was picking up the car today and they took longer than >expected and I didn't want to have equipment with me - oh well. > >Good dump of rain too. > >Jimmy Deguara > >----------------------------------------- >Jimmy Deguara >Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > >from >Schofields, Sydney >NSW Australia > >e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au > >Web Page with Michael Bath > >Australian Severe Weather Home Page >http://www.australiasevereweather.com > >President of the Australian Severe Weather Association >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Carolyn" To: "aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: new sat images Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:56:21 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, just wondering if anyone else saw the & news this morning with the satallite images of the polar areas....I was wondering if anyone would have a web addy for it? thanks Carolyn +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Aus A few bits. Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:14:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Mar 2002 00:13:46.0369 (UTC) FILETIME=[97E2A710:01C1D6B6] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
Some interesting stuff across the Australian region, the large area of mid and upper cloud over WA seems to be sourcing from a convective region at about 15 south and 115 east, although this area appears to be under the pre long wave trough upper north westerly flow (above 300hpa steering) its sending an impressive moisture plume across WA.  Has anybody noticed the TC at 23 south and 95 east (west of Aus) although weakening its managed to get itself caught up with the top end of a strong long wave trough and is sliding southeast towards the southwest of WA. The low over NSW (cold pool) is also maintaining its identity at upper levels with rather good moisture supply from the east and northeast, what's interesting is this system has started to pull in some significant tropical moisture down across the Coral Sea which may become ingested into this upper low today and tonight worth keeping an eye on . .. regards Clyve Herbert.
From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Storm news Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:38:16 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p247-tnt8.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.247] claimed to be jimmy.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:33:17 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aus A few bits. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Clyve, I noted the feeding of moisture from the Coral Sea which you have commented on. I also note there is another low in that region. Definitely more widespread rain today. Jimmy Deguara At 11:14 AM 29/3/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Hi all. >Some interesting stuff across the Australian region, the large area of mid >and upper cloud over WA seems to be sourcing from a convective region at >about 15 south and 115 east, although this area appears to be under the >pre long wave trough upper north westerly flow (above 300hpa steering) its >sending an impressive moisture plume across WA. Has anybody noticed the >TC at 23 south and 95 east (west of Aus) although weakening its managed to >get itself caught up with the top end of a strong long wave trough and is >sliding southeast towards the southwest of WA. The low over NSW (cold >pool) is also maintaining its identity at upper levels with rather good >moisture supply from the east and northeast, what's interesting is this >system has started to pull in some significant tropical moisture down >across the Coral Sea which may become ingested into this upper low today >and tonight worth keeping an eye on . .. regards Clyve Herbert. ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: Riverina To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:14:19 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 29/03/2002 03:14:21 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI . Currently storms lightning around Wisemans Ferry, St Albans. Nice rain around Sydney.. i really do hope no power is lost from Mudgee area, all solid 22kv conductors.. I can tell you,, not good.!! 1 strike and there go thousands. !! Storm via radar saying heading SW.. could be a good afternoon. Shall keep updates coming via GPATS.. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. 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Nice rain > around Sydney.. i really do hope no power is lost from Mudgee area, all > solid 22kv conductors.. I can tell you,, not good.!! 1 strike and there > go thousands. !! > > Storm via radar saying heading SW.. could be a good afternoon. > > Shall keep updates coming via GPATS.. > > Dave > > > > ############################################################################ ######### > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the > sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are > not necessarily the views of Country Energy. > ############################################################################ ######### > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: Re: aus-wx: Riverina To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:49:55 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 29/03/2002 03:49:56 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI Craig.. I had just read info re riverina then was looking at Gpats showing lightning at Wisemans ferry.. oops.. easy mistake. Plenty of lightning around Berowra now. Dave "TWC" To: Sent by: cc: aussie-weather-approval at wor Subject: Re: aus-wx: Riverina ld.std.com 29/03/2002 03:25 PM Please respond to aussie-weather I thought Wisemans Ferry was in the Hawkesbury, not the Riverina! Craig Arthur ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: aus-wx: Riverina > HI . > > Currently storms lightning around Wisemans Ferry, St Albans. Nice rain > around Sydney.. i really do hope no power is lost from Mudgee area, all > solid 22kv conductors.. I can tell you,, not good.!! 1 strike and there > go thousands. !! > > Storm via radar saying heading SW.. could be a good afternoon. > > Shall keep updates coming via GPATS.. > > Dave > > > > ############################################################################ ######### > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the > sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are > not necessarily the views of Country Energy. > ############################################################################ ######### > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Flash Flooding in Illawarra Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:18:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Very localised flash flooding in the Illawarra this afternoon. 1-2 kms seperates little rain from flooded roads. Kembla Grange racecourse completely under water and the old Princes Hwy cut at Kembla Grange. I would suggest you could almost double the Kembla Grange gauge rainfall to what would have fallen on the escarpment. The storm ( yes it was lightning active ) was pinned right on the escarpment. Looking at current radar and developments I think Sydney's SW and west could be the next hot spot. Michael +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: outer west storms To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:39:18 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 29/03/2002 04:39:18 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Seems like its firing in alot of areas now. Parkes/Forbes, Dubbo, Wellington, Cowra showing some lightning strikes now. Rain has started in Narromine. Dave Bathurst ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. 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There is a Wiseman's ferry that crosses the river upstream of the Hume weir. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "TWC" To: Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Riverina > I thought Wisemans Ferry was in the Hawkesbury, not the Riverina! > > Craig Arthur > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 3:14 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Riverina > > > > HI . > > > > Currently storms lightning around Wisemans Ferry, St Albans. Nice rain > > around Sydney.. i really do hope no power is lost from Mudgee area, all > > solid 22kv conductors.. I can tell you,, not good.!! 1 strike and there > > go thousands. !! > > > > Storm via radar saying heading SW.. could be a good afternoon. > > > > Shall keep updates coming via GPATS.. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > ############################################################################ > ######### > > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > confidential > > information. 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Snow is forecast to 600m for southern NZ Sunday. Squally showers with hail are predicted for coastal areas.
Temperatures in the southern oceans have not been unduly cold though. Macquarie island has been on 4 to 5C
today,  Campbell Island 6 to 7C.
Steven W 
 
From: "Ashton H Anderson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: East Australia's gypsy low Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 18:06:03 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Gypsy low...Jane I'm not familiar with that term... can you enlighten me a little or help me with one of your fab links
 
Ashton
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Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:34 PM
Subject: aus-wx: East Australia's gypsy low

Evening all,

I've created a page with JCU images from 23rd March to now, tracking the
gypsy upper level low from the western Bight region at about 50S to
today - and will keep updating the page......amazing little system!!

http://www.stormchasers.au.com/gypsy0302.htm

Jane

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X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:51:35 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wintry blast for NZ Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 19:06 30/03/02 +1200, you wrote: Snow is forecast to 600m for southern NZ Sunday. Squally showers with hail are predicted for coastal areas. Temperatures in the southern oceans have not been unduly cold though. Macquarie island has been on 4 to 5C today, Campbell Island 6 to 7C. Steven W NO thunderstorms though as forecasted for Canterbury tomorrow by MetService unless there is a strong Easterly inflow. I predict it will be just an ordinary circular development with a cold rain scenario associated with a movement of air around to the south .. but then wait and see! JohnGaul NZ Thunderstorm Soc +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp2.ihug.co.nz: Host p34-tnt1.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.215.34] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wintry blast for NZ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 20:53:26 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com John, There are some small but feisty cb moving into Fiordland and coastal Southland now. I think there is a moderate risk of a squall line with large hail developing over Canterbury tomorrow pm, on a ssw change. But as you say, its wait and see, the wind fields, temperature and insolation all have to come right on the day. Its a very hard thing to pick. As for Auckland, its showery here now. Forget about the cricket tomorrow. Cheers Steven Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gaul" To: Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:51 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wintry blast for NZ > At 19:06 30/03/02 +1200, you wrote: > Snow is forecast to 600m for southern NZ Sunday. Squally showers with hail > are predicted for coastal areas. > Temperatures in the southern oceans have not been unduly cold though. > Macquarie island has been on 4 to 5C today, Campbell Island 6 to 7C. > Steven W > > > NO thunderstorms though as forecasted for Canterbury tomorrow by MetService > unless there is a strong Easterly inflow. I predict it will be just an > ordinary circular development with a cold rain scenario associated with a > movement of air around to the south .. but then wait and see! > > > JohnGaul > NZ Thunderstorm Soc > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: East Australia's gypsy low Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 20:10:32 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Ashton & all,
 
The term was coined several years ago by Clyve Herbert to describe cold pool lows (or other types of lows) that wander around aimlessly having no fixed address (very difficult to predict its movement), and this describes well this type of phenomenon.  The low currently over NE NSW / coast is a classic example of a 'gypsy low' - moved northeast from south of the Bight on the 23rd, across Victoria, then north through NSW and has wandered about NSW / southern Qld for a few days & has moved (almost) off the coast & produced amazing amounts of precipitation on its journey - as well as amazingly low upper air temps for this time of the year.
 
 
There was one that did this sort of thing summer before last lurking about through the eastern states for more than a week........
 
Models have great difficulty handling this type of system......
 
Keep watching!!
 
Jane
 
PS: you won't find this in a textbook - it's another piece of 'chaser jargon' - (Ants, please note)

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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: East Australia's gypsy low

Gypsy low...Jane I'm not familiar with that term... can you enlighten me a little or help me with one of your fab links
 
Ashton
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:34 PM
Subject: aus-wx: East Australia's gypsy low

Evening all,

I've created a page with JCU images from 23rd March to now, tracking the
gypsy upper level low from the western Bight region at about 50S to
today - and will keep updating the page......amazing little system!!

http://www.stormchasers.au.com/gypsy0302.htm

Jane

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cadence at stormchasers.au.com

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "Rosalina Champion" To: Subject: aus-wx: Re: floods coming?? Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:50:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane and all, We have been having small pockets of very heavy rain here on the Gold Coast and yesterday my back yard flooded and I had to get a plumber. To cut a long story short, he told me that the bees near Warwick were building a double layer of wax in their hives. He also said that the last time they did that was in the ?94 floods. Today I was speaking with a bus driver who tells me that snakes are going up high to shed their skins and he thinks floods are coming within the next 4 weeks. Wondering what anyone else thinks?? Rosalina _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free at yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Godsman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Flash Flooding in Illawarra Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 00:25:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Michael, It was very interesting to see the changes in rainfall across the Illawarra. You were either in the right (or wrong) place to receive large rainfall totals, which here in Blackbutt we were definately wrong. While watching TWC I noticed Albion Park had picked up around 45mm for the day, but I only received 3.7mm for the entire day and are around 4km east as the crow flies. On the other hand I had a 10k race at Mt Kembla today and all the streams were still running chock-a-bloc, with many washouts in the roadside ditches and gravel and debris all over the road in places. Must have been one great little fall of rain. All up, only received approx 37mm from this event, which leaves me almost 70mm short of the 150mm average for March with one day to go. Cheers Andrew Godsman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Thompson" To: Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 4:18 PM Subject: aus-wx: Flash Flooding in Illawarra > Very localised flash flooding in the Illawarra this afternoon. 1-2 kms > seperates little rain from flooded roads. Kembla Grange racecourse > completely under water and the old Princes Hwy cut at Kembla Grange. I would > suggest you could almost double the Kembla Grange gauge rainfall to what > would have fallen on the escarpment. The storm ( yes it was lightning > active ) was pinned right on the escarpment. > > Looking at current radar and developments I think Sydney's SW and west could > be the next hot spot. > > Michael > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mt Crosby March dry record saved by the Gypsy Low Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 23:24:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, Well, just when March was looking to be a bottler dry month, we got 51mm on the 29th which canned it, and which is also the best day's rain so far this year. Must say, very good to get the rain, 31.5mm from the main trough line in the morning, followed by full sun until 4:30pm when we got another very unexpected 19.5mm in about 10mins from a rather wintery looking CB that literally appeared from nothing in about half an hour. Quite amazing dev, which appeared to be triggered by sudden cooling in the upper levels. At that time there certainly wasn't much in the way of heat or humidity at ground level. John. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: floods coming?? Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 08:16:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Bit early in the year but when swans build their nests much higher than the normal water mark is another "sign" To cut a > long story short, he told me that the bees near Warwick were building a > double layer of wax in their hives. He also said that the last time they > did that was in the ?94 > floods. > > Today I was speaking with a bus driver who tells me that snakes are going up > high to shed their skins and he thinks floods are coming within the next 4 > weeks. > > Wondering what anyone else thinks?? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 13:14:39 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wintry blast for NZ (Wait and See) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 20:53 30/03/02 +1200, you wrote: >John, >There are some small but feisty cb moving into Fiordland and coastal >Southland now. >I think there is a moderate risk of a squall line with large hail developing >over Canterbury tomorrow >pm, on a ssw change. But as you say, its wait and see, the wind fields, >temperature and insolation all >have to come right on the day. Its a very hard thing to pick. >As for Auckland, its showery here now. Forget about the cricket tomorrow. >Cheers >Steven Williams Late at night now Easter Sat. Barometer 990 hpa and rising slowly. I was hoping for sferics and lightning along the Alps tonight but nothing. Easter Sunday doesn't look promising for thunderstorm development but I have my NZTS T-shirt on to help development!!! Possibly wintry showers with hail embedded would be more appropriate with the Sw change. For thunderstorm development we need an onshore flow. That doesn't seem to happen here with a flow turning Sw or south from a westerly flow. regarding the cricket, i think the Black Caps might as well give in to the series to Poms anyway !! JohnGaul NZ Thunderstorm Soc --------------------------- Do you YAHOO ? No I don't +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" , "Wx-Chase" Subject: aus-wx: NewsOK article Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 13:43:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey All, Just looking through the NewsOK website once again, and found this. bit of old info, but I found it a good read http://newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=839852&pic=none&TP=getlifestyle PaulY Paul Yole Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA http://www.lexicon.net/yolestorm/ "I never knew what life meant, until I found that special person I had been looking for. Now she is blessing us with our little angel, all those nightmare memories from the past all seem to be a forgotten dream...I love you Kelley" - PaulY (2002) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp2.ihug.co.nz: Host p35-tnt1.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.215.35] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wintry blast for NZ (Wait and See) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 17:38:02 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well done John, your prediction looks correct. The thunder has stayed south of Dunedin. I am not an expert on Canterbury's weather. I know Otago and Southland well though and my lasting memory is how quickly summer disappears. April can be a bleak month in Dunedin. Anyway the Alps will look picturesque in a couple of days once the weather clears. Snow to 600-800m. 900m for North island ranges. Steven Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gaul" To: Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 1:14 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wintry blast for NZ (Wait and See) > At 20:53 30/03/02 +1200, you wrote: > >John, > >There are some small but feisty cb moving into Fiordland and coastal > >Southland now. > >I think there is a moderate risk of a squall line with large hail developing > >over Canterbury tomorrow > >pm, on a ssw change. But as you say, its wait and see, the wind fields, > >temperature and insolation all > >have to come right on the day. Its a very hard thing to pick. > >As for Auckland, its showery here now. Forget about the cricket tomorrow. > >Cheers > >Steven Williams > > Late at night now Easter Sat. > Barometer 990 hpa and rising slowly. > I was hoping for sferics and lightning along the Alps tonight but nothing. > Easter Sunday doesn't look promising for thunderstorm development but I > have my NZTS T-shirt on to help development!!! > Possibly wintry showers with hail embedded would be more appropriate with > the Sw change. > For thunderstorm development we need an onshore flow. That doesn't seem to > happen here with a flow turning Sw or south from a westerly flow. > regarding the cricket, i think the Black Caps might as well give in to the > series to Poms anyway !! > > > JohnGaul > NZ Thunderstorm Soc > --------------------------- > Do you YAHOO ? > > No I don't > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mt Crosby March dry record saved by the Gypsy Low Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 16:04:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2002 06:00:47.0575 (UTC) FILETIME=[671E0E70:01C1D879] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com John For comparison, on the opposite side of town, I scored 33mm in the morning line and 8 mm in the evening storms. Not quite as good as you- but I did have a heavy dump of rain here in Cleveland on the 14 March (21mm) which most other places missed out on. Monthly total = 114mm. Regards Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 11:24 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mt Crosby March dry record saved by the Gypsy Low > Hi All, > > Well, just when March was looking to be a bottler dry month, we got 51mm on > the 29th which canned it, and which is also the best day's rain so far this > year. Must say, very good to get the rain, 31.5mm from the main trough line > in the morning, followed by full sun until 4:30pm when we got another very > unexpected 19.5mm in about 10mins from a rather wintery looking CB that > literally appeared from nothing in about half an hour. Quite amazing dev, > which appeared to be triggered by sudden cooling in the upper levels. At > that time there certainly wasn't much in the way of heat or humidity at > ground level. > > John. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 22:40:39 +1200 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wintry blast for NZ (Wait and See) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 17:38 31/03/02 +1200, you wrote: >Well done John, your prediction looks correct. The thunder has stayed south >of Dunedin. >I am not an expert on Canterbury's weather. I know Otago and Southland well >though and my lasting >memory is how quickly summer disappears. April can be a bleak month in >Dunedin. >Anyway the Alps will look picturesque in a couple of days once the weather >clears. Snow to >600-800m. 900m for North island ranges. >Steven Williams There was a weak disturbance around 4:20pm today with a few rumbles of thunder to the east of ChCh around Sumner/Lyttelton area but nothing really to get excited about. There was lots of virga trails in the disturbed cloud forms over the city and plains today but as I said there was no direct onshore flow just a weak southerly all day nothing to enhance Cb development. There may of been some hail but nothing here. Most of the action to the south of the South Island. Anyway the oncoming cold snap should make a picturesque sight when the weather clears. JohnGaul NZ Thunderstorm Soc +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------