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From: "James Chambers" 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storms in Darwin
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:50:47 +1000
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Hi all

Yeah I put the link to that site up a few days ago after seeing the way they
look with t'storm activity.  Sometimes its a bit delayed - but its generally
worth the wait.  The typhoon (X=132 Y=112) nearing the Phillipines (or in
that area) looks more awesome each time the pics are updated.  It's
intensifying right now.

Oh yeah, Tuesday could be a good day.  Some morning rain is forecast then an
afternoon storm.  Now I love that situation - I hope it all pans out  the
ways its forecast to.  As long as the rain clears relatively early so that
it becomes nice and steamy.  Of course if all the dynamics are right, it
won't matter when the rain and cloud clears - but its certainly a big help!!
I can remember so many severe situations after early rain cleared.

A hopeful James from Brissie
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From: Jimmy Deguara 
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Date: Sunday, 11 October 1998 18:37
Subject: aussie-weather: Storms in Darwin


>If you get a chance each afternoon, follow the link
>
>http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/gms5ir.html
>
>and click on the region around Darwin. This satpic produces a nice colouful
>contour of the temperatures at the top of the storms. Looks great.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>----------------------------------------------------------
>Australian Severe Weather
>http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/index.html

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:59:06 +1000 (EST)
From: Paul Graham 
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Hello everyone,
	Paul G. here;  just a quick note to let you know of some
recent sounding data for those interested:
http://hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au/~m3052695/stlp/f160.html 

I will try to keep this as up to date as possible but it is a very time
consuming process at present.  Consequently, there is only a small amount
of data for a few locations (it's a bit more of a bit idea really since I
don't have much time to spend on it).  Currently I am negotiating with the
Bureau to have real-time data available.  I have come across a small
stumbling block (came very close to something really good - it's a long
story) but I hope to be able to arrange something. I have a feeling the
Bureau is going to implement something like this under their "aviation
sports products"  link - probably will have to pay for it unfortunately. 
In the US, this data is freely available online... 
	Cheers,
		Paul.

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From: "Jane ONeill" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne weekend
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:02:12 +1000
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Firstly, sorry for the images you probably receive - they are actually the
background of the page I use for email & Outlook can't seem to work out how
to leave them out even when I turn them off.  Promise that if I do send a
*real* image I'll specify it the body of the email.  In the meantime I'll
try to sort it out.....

Didn't catch the storms floating around Melbourne though I did see a
reasonable amount of uplift through Saturday.  Had some small hail yesterday
afternoon at about 3pm after a very humid morning but unfortunatley,
Bayswater being down by the creek with a hill to the north seems to miss
most of the storms - they split and go around us.

Greg, I'm also going to Darwin for a week between Xmas & New Year - last
year at that time, the weather had turned more monsoonal (with a cyclone
watch issued as I stepped off the plane ) - a few storms but not
particularly spectacular - the build up in November is a better time for
storms if you can stand the humidity  (BTW, anyone know Peter Jarver in
NQ ???? it'd be great to have him on the list).

Jane
Melbourne

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:26:00 +1000
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storms in Darwin
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Hi everybody - now to answer Anthonys Question, I checked the Total Totals
yesterday afternoon, and the date at the bottom was for Tuesday. Now for
the location, unless I am erroneous (which is probably the case) Queensland
hasnt slipped down that far yet (although everyone knows that NSW is the
better place to live!) hehehe.....anyways, good to hear some feedback!

Anyways, the map definately showed the action here somewhere - bring it on!

As for the IRC chat room, I didnt even know it existed! So I will try and
log in.....what day was it again?

And for the name Storm Chasers Australia - that is Brilliant Eric! well
done! Sounds great!

So what do we think everyone?? Shall we attempt to get sumthin going??

Paul from Taree.

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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: aussie-weather: Tot-Tots Index
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:13:23 GMT
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Given the popularity of the tot-tots index in recent discussions, I've
added a Storm Watch to the Weatherwalls on my web site. Click on it,
and you'll get the most recent 00 UTC tot-tots index (and precipitable
water) and forecasts out to 96 hours from COLA. 

Tomorrow's looking good for Qld!

Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/

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From: Jacob 
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storms in Darwin
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At 09:26 AM 12-10-98 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi everybody - now to answer Anthonys Question, I checked the Total Totals
>yesterday afternoon, and the date at the bottom was for Tuesday. Now for
>the location, unless I am erroneous (which is probably the case) Queensland
>hasnt slipped down that far yet (although everyone knows that NSW is the
>better place to live!) hehehe.....anyways, good to hear some feedback!
>
>Anyways, the map definately showed the action here somewhere - bring it on!
>
>As for the IRC chat room, I didnt even know it existed! So I will try and
>log in.....what day was it again?
>


Its on Wednesday nights at 9pm EST, I'll paste here what I sent to the list
last week just in case anyone missed it.

The meeting time is at 9pm EST (7pm WST, 8:30pm CST, 10pm EDT in Tasmania,
11am GMT) on Wednesday nights. We chat on the #Weather channel.

If your interested you need to download an irc client, the best irc client
is mIRC and you can download that at:

http://www.mirc.co.uk/

If you want to know more about IRC and what it is, take a look at:

http://www.htmltips.com/patrick/irc.html

The best way to get on the #weather channel is to do this:

In the status window in mirc, type /server NewBrunswick.NJ.US.Undernet.Org
6665
this then should show that you are connected after a few seconds, after
that then type /join #weather

mIRC setup also has a list of undernet servers that you can use also.

If you have any questions about #weather on irc please email at
jacob at iinet.net.au

Jacob

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From: Michael Bath 
Subject: aussie-weather: storms in Darwin
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Further to Greg and Jane's comments about Darwin.

I have written to Greg directly back in August, but the rest of the group
my be interested in my observations after visiting Darwin last Nov/Dec. In
the months leading up to my visit, the area was badly affected by haze from
the Indonesian bushfires. Fortunately this had mostly cleared by the time I
arrived on 28/11.

For thunderstorms the period from now until mid December would be the best
time to visit. The storms are more isolated but occur most days typically
to the SE and E of Darwin and north over Bathurst and Melville (Tiwi)
islands. You will see thunderstorms every day/night but not necessarily in
Darwin, and although you would expect storms to build up each afternoon, in
fact there was a build up every 12 to 18 hours while I was there (8 days).
So the time of the day and night that storms occurred varied wildly.

The area to the north of Darwin (Tiwi Is) had activity every time I looked,
while around Darwin storms arrived from the SE or developed there. All
cells I saw were very large and slow moving and exhibited some
characteristics of severe storms in higher latitudes: shelf clouds, lowered
bases, extremely heavy precipitation areas and strong winds. Apart from the
lack of roads away from Darwin, you can intercept and view storms quite
well from just about anywhere: the terrain is quite flat.

I have a full report of my Darwin trip that appeared in the paper version
of Storm News. If people are interested I will put it on the web.

Michael


*==========================================================*
 Michael Bath  Oakhurst, Sydney   mbath at ozemail.com.au
                 Australian Severe Weather
       http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:47:25 +1000 (EST)
From: Paul Graham 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Soundings Updated...
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I have updated the sounding data page so it has this morning's data
(probably won't do this often since it is very time consuming and my
holidays end tonight). Many of the traces for eastern Australia show a
strong subsidence inversion at about 3000m.  I noticed some alto-cumulus
undulatus this morning probably forming just under the inversion and
indicating the shear at that level - looked quite spectacular.  - Paul. 

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:11:21 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius 
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Ok, thanks Jimmy, I've been reading it the wrong way!  Sorry to James
who has had to put up with many months of confusion when I talk about
TT's with him!

Anthony

Jimmy Deguara wrote:

> In terms of the total totals index page, be careful how it is read.
>
> a) Make sure you have the correct day
> b) The contour lines represent precipitation.... and the coloured in
> contours in various shades of brown represent TT
>
> Jimmy Deguara from Schofields
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Cornelius 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
> Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 9:06 PM
> Subject: Re: aussie-weather: (no subject)
>
> >Paul - what is the URL that you are using for your TT's?  The one I'm
>
> >looking at only has TT's of 45 - and they're in QLD, the highest TT
> >value for NSW is 40...
> >I use the links of the ASW (Australian Severe Weather) charts page.
> >
> >Anthony
> >
> >paulmoss at tpgi.com.au wrote:
> >
> >> Jane from melbourne - did you catch the storms?? any good?? I just
> >> read the
> >> warnings n the BOM site! Lucky u! Anyway, Anthony : whilst I
> realise
> >> that all
> >> conditions have t be right for svere storms, the toal totals index
> is
> >> normally a great indicator, and looking at Tuesdays total toals,
> could
> >> be a
> >> very busy day for all. It preditcs (note I underlined that!) values
>
> >> over 55
> >> for all eastern NSW and Vict, and has a patch of 60 + somewhere
> >> Central / Mid
> >> North Coast (hopefully over me!!). Lets cross all fngers & hope
> thyat
> >> this is
> >> what we have all bee waiting for....a proper start to the storm
> >> season!
> >> Cheers all!
> >>
> >> Paul from Taree.
> >>

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:27:22 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Soundings Updated...
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Paul - do you have a link to the soundings at all??  Or do you request
these from the BoM and they send them?  Because I'd love to be able to
look at soundings!
Thanks,
Anthony

Paul Graham wrote:

> I have updated the sounding data page so it has this morning's data
> (probably won't do this often since it is very time consuming and my
> holidays end tonight). Many of the traces for eastern Australia show a
>
> strong subsidence inversion at about 3000m.  I noticed some
> alto-cumulus
> undulatus this morning probably forming just under the inversion and
> indicating the shear at that level - looked quite spectacular.  -
> Paul.
>

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Soundings Updated...
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:48:55 +1000
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Jimmy here from Schofields

Go to http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready/profile.html and follow the
instructions. These are reasonable soundings to use as a basis.

Jimmy
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Date: Monday, October 12, 1998 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Soundings Updated...


>Paul - do you have a link to the soundings at all??  Or do you request
>these from the BoM and they send them?  Because I'd love to be able to
>look at soundings!
>Thanks,
>Anthony
>
>Paul Graham wrote:
>
>> I have updated the sounding data page so it has this morning's data
>> (probably won't do this often since it is very time consuming and my
>> holidays end tonight). Many of the traces for eastern Australia show a
>>
>> strong subsidence inversion at about 3000m.  I noticed some
>> alto-cumulus
>> undulatus this morning probably forming just under the inversion and
>> indicating the shear at that level - looked quite spectacular.  -
>> Paul.
>>

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From: "Michael Thompson" 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storms in Darwin
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:51:30 +1000
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Jimmy and myself also agree that early morning rain clearing, then storms is
a great scenario !!!

Michael



>Oh yeah, Tuesday could be a good day.  Some morning rain is forecast then
an
>afternoon storm.  Now I love that situation - I hope it all pans out  the
>ways its forecast to.  As long as the rain clears relatively early so that
>it becomes nice and steamy.  Of course if all the dynamics are right, it
>won't matter when the rain and cloud clears - but its certainly a big
help!!
>I can remember so many severe situations after early rain cleared.
>

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:12:55 +1000 (EST)
From: Paul Graham 
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> Go to http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready/profile.html and follow the
> instructions. These are reasonable soundings to use as a basis.

Caution using this data since it is output from a model and may not
reflect the real situation very accurately.  - Paul. 

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From: "James Chambers" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: storms please
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:48:47 +1000
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Hi all - just a word about tomorrow.  This a'noon I noticed an area of altocumulus 
castellanus (accas) probably about 50km to the WNW of Brisbane.  I understand that 
generally this points to storm activity within about 24 hours.  I was pleased to see it. 
    
We're going for (as at 9.40pm) :A shower or two. Some thunderstorms in the 
afternoon ahead of a gusty SW change. A very warm day with fresh N'ly winds ahead 
of the change.Max 28

Yeah the storms tonight over central qld look great on the CSIRO pics.  Hopefully 
they'll look even better tomorrow over us.

Remember you can go to my homepage to see if warnings and/or advices have been 
issued.  Tomorrow I should l be online until it (hopefully) becomes too dangerous.

Of course nothing could happen too.

James from Brisbane
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:10:07 +1000 (EST)
From: Paul Graham 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Struck Gold!!!
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I have to say that many times in the past I have searched in vain for
Aerological diagrams for Australia but at last I have struck gold.  Check
out:  

http://www-das.uwyo.edu/upperair/au.html 

This is the best I have seen to date - found it just by searching for
upper air diagrams.  Perhaps they have only just recently started
providing this?  Oh well, might as well give up with idea of starting my
own site...

- Paul. 

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:12:31 +1000 (EST)
From: Paul Graham 
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Compare what is there now to what I collected earlier today from the
Bureau - I can't believe I went all that way and now find the same data
online!!  Think I'll give up writing the computer program for Skew T Log
P as well..

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" 
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:22:23 +1000
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This may be a recent link as I had searched for a long time and struck
nothing. But that is a good find. This proves that Bureau data is being
transmitted across the globe.

Jimmy Deguara
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From: Paul Graham 
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Date: Monday, October 12, 1998 11:10 PM
Subject: aussie-weather: Struck Gold!!!


>I have to say that many times in the past I have searched in vain for
>Aerological diagrams for Australia but at last I have struck gold.  Check
>out:
>
>http://www-das.uwyo.edu/upperair/au.html
>
>This is the best I have seen to date - found it just by searching for
>upper air diagrams.  Perhaps they have only just recently started
>providing this?  Oh well, might as well give up with idea of starting my
>own site...
>
>- Paul.

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Updated: 20th October, 1998

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