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Severe Weather Discussion => Tornado Alley Outbreaks and Severe Weather Worldwide => Topic started by: soniccc on 15 September 2008, 04:36:52 AM

Title: Supercell or not?
Post by: soniccc on 15 September 2008, 04:36:52 AM

Could this be a Supercell? Wallcloud exists for about 30 min.


(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6746/03mr8.jpg)




(http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9236/04mj2.jpg)



(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2851/15xr9.jpg)

Pictures taken in the south austria near slovenia.



Lg Clemens

Title: Re: Supercell or not?
Post by: phix on 15 September 2008, 07:19:36 AM

hi,

indeed , there was a lot of activity that day, despite the fact that's quite late for severe thunderstorms to develop in central Europe, as the season is coming to an end.

radar imagery is a little bit ambiguous, you don`t get to see to many supercell features.

over the judenburg district you see some interesting features

(http://www.phix.cc/pics/post_gew_stmk/01.png)

changing into a pronounced bow shape over the koeflach district

(http://www.phix.cc/pics/post_gew_stmk/02.png)


and after that more and more into a line shape and a mesoscale complex

(http://www.phix.cc/pics/post_gew_stmk/03.png)
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(http://www.phix.cc/pics/post_gew_stmk/04.png)

here is an animation (17MB), source= Austrocontrol

http://www.phix.cc/gew_09.html

especially towards the end of the animation (southern Styria), when you took your pictures, i can`t see clear features of a supercell, in this case it`s mainly up to you to decide.

regards

Manfred

Title: Re: Supercell or not?
Post by: soniccc on 15 September 2008, 01:19:16 PM

hi manfred *g* sorry have to write german vor a second...wo hast du die radarbilder her? ich kenn nur die normalen vom ac radar nur deine sind ja mal super geil....suche schon lange bessere bilder zu diversen ereignissen? gibts da ein rannkommen? auch wenns erst nen tag später oder so ist?

for me its hard to say because the wallcloud had a long life an the struktures in spielfeld were realy incredible...its hard so say because i was in front of the cell near slovenia.


lg clemens

Title: Re: Supercell or not?
Post by: phix on 15 September 2008, 02:29:13 PM

Hi Clemens,

i sent a message to you ... Austrocontrol is a difficult topic .. Austrians are not as lucky as Australians when it comes to freely available weather data.... and most probably we shouldn't discuss Central European narrow minded attitudes in an Australian weather forum ;)

Cheers

Manfred

Title: Re: Supercell or not?
Post by: Mike on 16 September 2008, 07:32:17 AM

Could it be the actual gust front with shelf cloud and not wall cloud structure in the photos?